The Keith Jarrett Trio’s Gorgeous Performance of “Never Let Me Go”
Recorded live in Tokyo, March 30, 1996 at Hitomi Memorial Hall
Keith Jarrett (p)
Gary Peacock (b)
Jack DeJohnette (d)
Recorded live in Tokyo, March 30, 1996 at Hitomi Memorial Hall
Keith Jarrett (p)
Gary Peacock (b)
Jack DeJohnette (d)
1 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 4:23:38pm |
Here’s a vocal version of this song by the great Shirley Horn.
2 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 4:24:57pm |
This is the version on Tokyo 96? Beautiful.
3 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 4:29:16pm |
Chilling underneath the christmas tree pic.twitter.com/6krDaOEx0r— Emergency Kittens (@EmrgencyKittens) December 2, 2013
5 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 4:56:30pm |
WOW! Barack Obama Honors Himself on Rosa Parks Day | the Gateway Pundit
WOWIE! WOW! WOWZER! INPEACH!!!
6 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:04:43pm |
RT @RedAloud: What a wild photo RT @70torinoman: Protesters and riot police clashing in #Kiev. Photo pic.twitter.com/6oZEEkt5vB— RayBeckerman (@RayBeckerman) December 1, 2013
7 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:05:15pm |
Protesters cling to a gate near the presidential administration building in #Kiev. Photo: Gleb Garanich/@Reuters pic.twitter.com/zp9gQ6HKQt— Viva la causa! (@70torinoman) December 1, 2013
8 | jaunte Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:07:59pm |
re: #7 Charles Johnson
Photo: Gleb Garanich
I think that’s the photographer who got whacked over the head yesterday.
9 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:16:27pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Thailand is really heating up too. Protesters there might be able to topple the government. In Russia, I bet Putin is going to hold on.
10 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:16:38pm |
11 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:17:28pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Hmm got 60 minutes on now thanks for the heads up.
12 | jaunte Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:20:04pm |
13 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:21:32pm |
Looks like Iran is going to use the opportunity of eased sanctions to expand their nuclear program.
Russia, Iran Discuss New Nuclear Plant Project
AEOI asks for budget to expand nuclear plants: Salehi
14 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:30:42pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
I’m fine with all the power plants they want. That’s threading the nuclear weapon vs global warming gap.
15 | jaunte Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:33:47pm |
That awkward moment when your Amazon delivery drone just hovers there, waiting for a tip.
— Tim Siedell (@badbanana) December 2, 2013
16 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:34:01pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes
I saw that. It’s an interesting idea, but I wonder how it will work.
17 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:35:05pm |
re: #14 Political Atheist
I’m fine with all the power plants they want. That’s threading the nuclear weapon vs global warming gap.
I’m still nervous about the deal. A lot of people (even hawks) seem to think it’s a great idea but I have my doubts. Iran has been working on a bomb in the past, they are still the largest state sponsor of terrorism. It’s also a backward theocracy with a terrible human rights record.
18 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:36:54pm |
All I care about is, will drone delivery be covered by Amazon Prime?
19 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:38:47pm |
And of course…
@justinjm1 Careful with the jokes, I'll soon know where you live.— Amazon Drone (@AmazonDrone) December 2, 2013
20 | Justanotherhuman Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:38:59pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes
Make sure the kids aren’t playing outside. Clear out, everyone, the drone is coming!
21 | jaunte Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:39:52pm |
re: #18 Charles Johnson
New Amazon PrimeAir service, with slight surcharges for fuel and accident insurance.
22 | Justanotherhuman Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:41:26pm |
re: #21 jaunte
New Amazon PrimeAir service, with slight surcharges for fuel and accident insurance.
Would probably double the price of that $18.98 item.
23 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:44:01pm |
re: #11 Political Atheist
Hmm got 60 minutes on now thanks for the heads up.
The Amazon drone thing is on 60 minutes? Anyone else think it’s strange a news program is doing a free advertisement for Amazon’s new service? A few weeks ago a lot of news outlets were running stories on Burger King’s new fries (not kidding).
24 | jaunte Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:44:52pm |
Fast, tentacled pirate drones are already being designed.
25 | Belafon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:45:33pm |
re: #23 Killgore Trout
Don’t you think lots of unmanned aircraft flying over the US would be a worthy news item?
26 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:48:04pm |
I'm picturing a lot of cognitive dissonance among the libertarian techies. DRONES ARE EVIL.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2013
Amazon needs to call them “bots” or “fliers” or something other than drones. That word's been thoroughly demonized.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2013
27 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:48:40pm |
re: #25 Belafon
Don’t you think lots of unmanned aircraft flying over the US would be a worthy news item?
Meh, I thought it was kinda cool two or three years ago when people started floating the idea. US companies had problems getting permits for it, maybe Amazon is big enough to pull some strings and get it done.
28 | Amory Blaine Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:48:52pm |
But can they deliver 55 gallon drums of lube in an emergency?
29 | Justanotherhuman Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:48:54pm |
BTW, if this is the way Jeff Bezos is going with the WAPO, he can kiss my old arse. Old news, but probably overlooked.
Washington Post Hires National Review Reporter Robert Costa
Read more: newsbusters.org
“Earlier today the Washington Post announced that it had hired National Review’s Washington Editor Robert Costa. This marks perhaps the first time in decades that a top-tier “mainstream” news outlet has hired away a reporter from a right-leaning publication.
“By contrast, left-leaning political magazines like the Nation, Mother Jones, or the New Republic have frequently been places where publications like the Post or the New York Times turn to for their reporter farm teams. Elite national media outlets have even taken somewhat frequently to hiring former Democratic political aides as their reporters as we’ve chronicled for years in our “Revolving Door” series.
“Costa’s achievement is thus all the more notable. Our congratulations to him in his new gig. And kudos to new Post owner Jeff Bezos for encouraging his staff to think outside the box like this.” (my emphasis)
Read more: newsbusters.org
30 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:51:28pm |
re: #25 Belafon
Don’t you think lots of unmanned aircraft flying over the US would be a worthy news item?
That also reminds me that a few months ago I noticed a little drone hovering over my backyard. I looked around and found the pilot, talked to him a bit. He didn’t have a camera on his but they’re affordable toys now, it’s something we’re going to have to get used to.
31 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:52:09pm |
The report’s online now…
32 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:53:14pm |
33 | RealityBasedSteve Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:59:18pm |
re: #28 Amory Blaine
But can they deliver 55 gallon drums of lube in an emergency?
I don’t even, in my wildest dreams, image what kind of law-abiding use there is for 55 gallons of lube. (at at 1200+ dollars (not counting shipping) I’m not about to get it as a joke.
RBS
34 | Belafon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 5:59:42pm |
re: #27 Killgore Trout
Yes, but imagine the average American. And then imagine the average wingnut: Amazon flies armed drones to spy on American citizens. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that from some on the left.
36 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:01:53pm |
re: #23 Killgore Trout
What airspace will they fly in? The USPO and UPS have had their issues but a delivery vehicle in your pool was not so likely. ;-)
37 | darthstar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:02:03pm |
re: #28 Amory Blaine
But can they deliver 55 gallon drums of lube in an emergency?
Holy cow…that’s a $1200 savings!
38 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:04:15pm |
re: #33 RealityBasedSteve
I don’t even, in my wildest dreams, image what kind of law-abiding use there is for 55 gallons of lube. (at at 1200+ dollars (not counting shipping) I’m not about to get it as a joke.
RBS
Nightclub.
39 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:05:34pm |
re: #36 Political Atheist
What airspace will they fly in? The USPO and UPS have had their issues but a delivery vehicle in your pool was not so likely. ;-)
Earliest is 2015 for drone delivery - Bezos mentioned the FAA issues.
40 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:08:08pm |
re: #36 Political Atheist
What airspace will they fly in? The USPO and UPS have had their issues but a delivery vehicle in your pool was not so likely. ;-)
Didn’t Bezos say that the soonest they’d get any rules from the FAA would be 2015? Even he admits this idea is years away. Should be interesting to see how it unfolds.
Hell, I remember reading about Bill Gates driving around in a Ford prototype vehicle that had a previous version of Sync years before it ever launched on the market. It’s going to be a while before the dudebros and wingnuts start shooting down the Amazon drones. Heh.
41 | Lord of the Pies Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:09:42pm |
Menorah lighting Huntsville AL #Hanukkah pic.twitter.com/jyoBBd8YPT— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 1, 2013
42 | bratwurst Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:10:31pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
Thailand is really heating up too. Protesters there might be able to topple the government. In Russia, I bet Putin is going to hold on.
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Ukraine : Total War
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It’s kinda tough to watch, Russian cops are pretty brutal.
Russia ≠ Ukraine…they are two different countries for a long time now.
And while we’re at it:
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that leading “freedom advocates” connected with Wikileaks and #SnowdenOp have nothing to say about #Ukraine— John Schindler (@20committee) December 1, 2013
43 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:13:23pm |
re: #42 bratwurst
Russia ≠ Ukraine…they are two different countries for a long time now.
Yeah, that whole “collapse of the Soviet Union” thing seems to elude a lot of people.
44 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:13:36pm |
re: #39 Charles Johnson
He must have some idea how he thinks it will work. Looking forward to the segment.
I just hope the FAA finds a way to regulate for safety with room for smaller operators to be in. The rules now are pretty overbearing. Even non drone craft like bigger toy quad copters become illegal as soon as you earn money with them. (What separates a drone from a toy is flying based on the camera onboard or GPS rather than eyeballing it from the ground.)
It’s one thing to imagine the odd craft coming along from time to time. But what about major popularity? FedEx, photographers, pharmacies, film makers all flying drones over our heads?
45 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:13:58pm |
Amazon Prime Air
46 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:23:04pm |
re: #26 Charles Johnson
We’re not living in the past or the present anymore. This is the future.
47 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:24:00pm |
re: #42 bratwurst
Russia ≠ Ukraine…they are two different countries for a long time now.
And while we’re at it:
[Embedded content]
Ooops, my bad. My Ukrainian mom would kick my ass for that one.
48 | RealityBasedSteve Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:31:38pm |
re: #46 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
We’re not living in the past or the present anymore. This is the future.
Well, we aren’t all driving rocket ships, but there are a lot of people in the functional equivalent of soup lines. I’m not sure that the whole turquoise jewelry thing will ever hit again.
RBS
Who is waiting for his personal self driving flying car.
49 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:33:55pm |
Gotta think it wont be too long before we see manned quad copters. Great design.
50 | bratwurst Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:34:49pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
Ooops, my bad. My Ukrainian mom would kick my ass for that one.
I have some roots there myself, was fortunate enough to visit my ancestral home town in modern-day Ukraine about two years ago. It was a very nice experience, but I left with a lot of gratitude toward my great grandparents who immigrated to North America from there.
51 | Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:35:15pm |
re: #45 Charles Johnson
Amazon Prime Air
[Embedded content]
Of note, the video depicts a transaction that seems to happen under clear skies and otherwise ideal weather conditions.
52 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:40:19pm |
re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg
Of note, the video depicts a transaction that seems to happen under clear skies and otherwise ideal weather conditions.
Yes, we’re seeing a demo of a prototype there - but it’s clearly past the brainstorming stage into “how do we make this work in the real world?”
53 | Kragar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:40:58pm |
54 | HoosierHoops Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:42:54pm |
*** *** *** *** ***
Sports and Science
***___***___***_***
So I was watching the Science channel the other day. I’m getting to hate the producers of the Science channel ..
Stop all the fricking Bigfoot and UFO shows..Stick to what you are..Not reality based bullshit
Charles..Can you imagine how embarrassed Phil from Bad Astronomy and everybody it seems from the Nukker group are? Sure everybody got a big payday and a voice on all the Discovery Channels. It has to be hard on them..Money talks so good for them.. They deserve every penny. The Science channel is moving into the History channel syndrome.. pure BS to make ratings..
How does this relate to Sports Science? Read on..
This Scientist was showing how all things in the Universe..When Charted acts like a Fractal..Or so to say..A tree with a trunk and then branchs on the tree all the way to the Viens in the leaves..All things that exists from plants or animals or Man.. All our history with all things charted with math exists as a tree. Fractual math is why no snowflake is the same.
Amazing right? But wait,,, near the end he said Even Basketball is a fractual.. I’m thinking Bullsh*t..Winston! Grab me a beer! I don’t know what Ivory Tower this cat lives in..
He brought up a picture of a court and the players. Using a digital grease pencil he drew out the movements of each player. At the end it did look like trees and branches. The trunk is, of course, darker because of muliple player movements in that area then it branches out..
Amazing.. From the Instant of the Big Bang and time itself all things act as a fratual tree Darwin noted the biologic tree over time.
All things in the universe act as a tree.. including basketball games.
55 | Mattand Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:49:38pm |
re: #28 Amory Blaine
But can they deliver 55 gallon drums of lube in an emergency?
Most of the deliveries go to this guy:
56 | Mattand Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:52:50pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes
Would it be ironic if a drone conspiracy theorist had their tinfoil delivered to them from Amazon via drone?
57 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:56:34pm |
Quadcopter dance
58 | Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Dec 1, 2013 6:58:01pm |
My other question re: prime air is with regards to the plastic containers used to transport the packages. They’d have to be pretty sturdy to withstand the elements yet in the video, it’s just left there along with the package. Seems like something that could be pretty wasteful.
59 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:01:48pm |
300 orders per second. 10% by air=30 per second
60 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:03:51pm |
Already seeing some dudebros coming out strongly against Amazon Prime Air. Drones, you see. They are evil.
61 | Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:04:22pm |
re: #59 Political Atheist
300 orders per second. 10% by air=30 per second
Which works out to 108 000/hour. That’s a lot of unmanned drones flying around.
62 | Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:04:49pm |
re: #60 Charles Johnson
Already seeing some dudebros coming out strongly against Amazon Prime Air. Drones, you see. They are evil.
It’s an Obama communist plot!!
63 | Charles Johnson Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:06:01pm |
If you’re going to be the first one to grab the Twitter handle ‘AmazonDrone,’ maybe you should try to actually be funny, too.
64 | Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:06:23pm |
re: #63 Charles Johnson
If you’re going to be the first one to grab the Twitter handle ‘AmazonDrone,’ maybe you should try to actually be funny, too.
Twittersquatting?
65 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:08:37pm |
So if I order a quadcopter via amazon, will it deliver itself?
66 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:12:59pm |
Walking Dead.
Whoa. Whoa.
(that doesn’t need to be behind a spoiler cut, right?)
WHOAAAAAA.
67 | Political Atheist Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:18:48pm |
re: #60 Charles Johnson
Already seeing some dudebros coming out strongly against Amazon Prime Air. Drones, you see. They are evil.
Okay I was already an Amazon Prime guy and a fan. Now I’m becoming a much bigger fan. Bezos rocks.
68 | Lancelot Link Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:20:06pm |
re: #46 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
We’re not living in the past or the present anymore. This is the future.
We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.
69 | Tim TeaBro Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:20:18pm |
Icksnay on the Walking Deadivay motherfuckeray.
Or I will drone strikivay your assinaye.
70 | Tim TeaBro Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:23:21pm |
Right on queue after my Dr Evil threat, some bonehead on FB drops a spoiler. Pretty heavy one too, my wife will be upset if true.
71 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:26:47pm |
actual Walking Dead spoilers, to test your willpower
the governor killed Hershel.
Michone killed the governor.
lots of people killed lots of people.
Daryl is the baddest badass of them all.
also,
Martinez had such a nice little camp, with so many decent people. And good weapons, etc. They would have been a fabulous addition to the prison.
It took the Governor only 2 episodes to get most of them killed, and the rest helpless. What an asshole.
72 | SpaceJesus Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:26:51pm |
anybody watch the walking dead tonight and see that commercial with the rats running around?
73 | Kragar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:28:07pm |
Anyone else been watching that new show “Almost Human”?
74 | Amory Blaine Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:30:34pm |
I’m only following one show right now, Masters of Sex.
75 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:30:46pm |
re: #73 Kragar
Anyone else been watching that new show “Almost Human”?
I’m enjoying it… not loving it, not getting fannish about it, not going to be reading or writing fic (yet, but anything’s possible), but I’ll watch on hulu while making the next day’s dinner.
76 | Tim TeaBro Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:32:31pm |
I’m this close to starting Breaking Bad. I’ve watched 5 mins of one episode.
The classic ‘Wait for it… wait for it…’
77 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:34:17pm |
re: #73 Kragar
Anyone else been watching that new show “Almost Human”?
Don’t have a TV so I googled it. Smells a lot like “Dark Angel” in certain ways. en.wikipedia.org I liked that show but, well, Fox and SF don’t get along. I didn’t like it but I liked what Fox did to Firefly even less. So I don’t expect it will last very long.
79 | Kragar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:35:33pm |
re: #75 sagehen
I’m enjoying it… not loving it, not getting fannish about it, not going to be reading or writing fic (yet, but anything’s possible), but I’ll watch on hulu while making the next day’s dinner.
Liked it so far. I’m still watching after 3 episodes which is more than I can say for Agents of Shield
80 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:36:37pm |
re: #76 Tim TeaBro
I’m this close to starting Breaking Bad. I’ve watched 5 mins of one episode.
The classic ‘Wait for it… wait for it…’
I’d say don’t bother. Everything good you can get from trailers. The rest is just a bunch of glorifying a murderous drug chemist who, in a just world, would have died in the pilot; end of series.
My wife who is a TV junkie (phrasing intentional) started it recently. She quit out of boredom before the end of the 1st season.
81 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:36:53pm |
Talking Dead just showed an awesome group photo of the WD main cast’s stunt doubles. Even standing still, full face, they’re a pretty convincing set of doppelgangers.
84 | Tim TeaBro Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:46:05pm |
re: #83 Stanley Sea
Not watching till tomorrow. Now I’m scared.
It won’t happen if you don’t watch it.
85 | Lord of the Pies Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:47:14pm |
People may think UR an #idiot #racist BUT once U speak then they KNOW! No “exetions” pic.twitter.com/IcJk9AtuOL”@ExposeRWNJs #UniteBlue #LibCrib— Joe Spataro, MD (@doctorjoe56) December 2, 2013
86 | GlutenFreeJesus Sun, Dec 1, 2013 7:47:52pm |
Has GG said anything about this? Surely it’s Canada’s fault.
87 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:17:59pm |
re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus
Has GG said anything about this? Surely it’s Canada’s fault.
One of Snowflake’s buddies?
88 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:21:04pm |
re: #73 Kragar
Anyone else been watching that new show “Almost Human”?
Yes. I’ve been watching it. I like it so far, but I’m incredibly biased. I’ve been a Karl Urban fangirl since the Lord of the Rings films.
89 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:22:29pm |
re: #88 Lidane
Yes. I’ve been watching it. I like it so far, but I’m incredibly biased. I’ve been a Karl Urban fangirl since the Lord of the Rings films.
He was Eros from Xena: Warrior Princess.
The wings look good.
I’ll shut up now.
91 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:28:54pm |
re: #90 Varek Raith
Who let these fangirls in???
/
I’m just sharing information!
It’s like asking questions, but in reverse.
92 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:29:33pm |
re: #89 dr. klys
He was Eros from Xena: Warrior Princess.
The wings look good.
I’ll shut up now.
He was also Caesar on Xena.
Funny thing about that— I used to watch Hercules and Xena back in the day because they were cheesy, goofy fun. It was only after the LOTR films that I realized he was the same actor. Heh.
93 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:30:35pm |
re: #92 Lidane
He was also Caesar on Xena.
Funny thing about that— I used to watch Hercules and Xena back in the day because it was cheesy, goofy fun. It was only after the LOTR films that I realized he was the same actor. Heh.
I own the first two seasons of Xena on DVD mostly because it was really cheesy, goofy fun. Then it got weird and I liked it less. But it didn’t take itself too seriously back in the beginning.
He totally doesn’t look the same at ALL as in the LOTR films.
94 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:36:20pm |
re: #89 dr. klys
He was Eros from Xena: Warrior Princess.
The wings look good.
I’ll shut up now.
Also a pitch-perfect Leonard McCoy in the new Star Trek franchise. According to Nimoy,
When Karl Urban introduced himself as Leonard McCoy and shook hands with Chris Pine, I burst into tears. That performance of his is so moving, so touching and so powerful as Doctor McCoy, that I think Dee Kelley would be smiling, and maybe in tears as well.
95 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:39:09pm |
re: #94 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Also a pitch-perfect Leonard McCoy in the new Star Trek franchise. According to Nimoy,
Of all the core, he nailed McCoy the most. The others were damn good, don’t get me wrong, but his performance of McCoy put me into the “Ok, it’s ok, I can relax now” mode for rest of that movie.
96 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:40:46pm |
re: #95 William Barnett-Lewis
Of all the core, he nailed McCoy the most. The others were damn good, don’t get me wrong, but his performance of McCoy put me into the “Ok, it’s ok, I can relax now” mode for rest of that movie.
I still haven’t seen the new Trek film. I’ll get around to it at some point, I’m sure.
97 | teleskiguy Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:41:16pm |
Holy shit. This is a fucking painting! Norman Rockwell eat your heart out! http://t.co/hp0YrAM0iM @jay_bentley @NataliaFabia— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 2, 2013
98 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:47:25pm |
re: #29 Justanotherhuman
BTW, if this is the way Jeff Bezos is going with the WAPO, he can kiss my old arse. Old news, but probably overlooked.
Washington Post Hires National Review Reporter Robert Costa
Read more: newsbusters.org
“Earlier today the Washington Post announced that it had hired National Review’s Washington Editor Robert Costa. This marks perhaps the first time in decades that a top-tier “mainstream” news outlet has hired away a reporter from a right-leaning publication.
“By contrast, left-leaning political magazines like the Nation, Mother Jones, or the New Republic have frequently been places where publications like the Post or the New York Times turn to for their reporter farm teams. Elite national media outlets have even taken somewhat frequently to hiring former Democratic political aides as their reporters as we’ve chronicled for years in our “Revolving Door” series.
“Costa’s achievement is thus all the more notable. Our congratulations to him in his new gig. And kudos to new Post owner Jeff Bezos for encouraging his staff to think outside the box like this.” (my emphasis)
Read more: newsbusters.org
Costa was very firm in his opposition to Ted Cruz and the “Defund Brigade” back in October. He’s actually a pretty good choice for the WaPo.
99 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 8:50:30pm |
re: #42 bratwurst
Russia ≠ Ukraine…they are two different countries for a long time now.
And while we’re at it:
[Embedded content]
The thing is that Russia has major influence in the Ukraine. The president of Ukraine’s refusal to sign an economic treaty (which was the trigger event for the protest) was due to pressure from Putin.
100 | Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:09:25pm |
Here’s why I find the 60 minutes promotion for Amazon a little suspicious.
Here’s That Amazon Delivery Drone That You Won’t Actually See For A Long Time
If Amazon.com AMZN +1.9% CEO Jeff Bezos has anything to say about it, the world’s largest online retailer will be flying your packages to your house by aerial drone in a few years, according to a well-orchestrated story Sunday night on 60 Minutes.
….
Still, the drone has already delivered something for Amazon: buzz, and right on the first weekend of the holiday shopping season. And as both skeptics and admirers note, the announcement may even give Amazon even more runway before its investors demand that it make some real profits. After all, what investor won’t want to wait to see if Bezos can get his latest dream off the ground?
Yes, there’s some news value to the possibility of drone delivery but the free promotion on a news program just looks like one business doing a favor for another business.
101 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:11:47pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
KT: Snore … Hrmf? What’s happening? … Oh, no young women being tear gassed. Nothing important. Snore…
102 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:19:11pm |
re: #101 William Barnett-Lewis
KT: Snore … Hrmf? What’s happening? … Oh, no young women being tear gassed. Nothing important. Snore…
Are you referring to that protest in Kiev that got clubbed down?
103 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:30:07pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
Are you referring to that protest in Kiev that got clubbed down?
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it’s snark.
A really big, wide limb.
104 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:30:17pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
Are you referring to that protest in Kiev that Just got clubbed down?
KT has several things he’s complaining about this night. The Kiev protests are one example of the kind he usually likes - people being whacked for saying anything the bosses dislike - but because they are the wrong kind of leftist he must complain. Similarly, he complains about the “drones” amazon wants to use.
The Dudebros are proud of him.
I’ll remember standing in front of my parish leading Matins this morning instead, DF. I’d argue that did much more good than this.
But I’ll bet that the falangists love him… :(
105 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:32:31pm |
re: #29 Justanotherhuman
BTW, if this is the way Jeff Bezos is going with the WAPO, he can kiss my old arse. Old news, but probably overlooked.
Washington Post Hires National Review Reporter Robert Costa
What’s next, Santorum as a columnist on women’s issues? 9_9
As if we needed more proof that traditional media is nothing but steaming corporatist crap.
106 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:33:03pm |
re: #105 Interesting Times
What’s next, Santorum as a columnist on women’s issues? 9_9
As if we needed more proof that traditional media is nothing but steaming corporatist crap.
Tell me again about the liberal media…
107 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:36:02pm |
re: #105 Interesting Times
So the Post hires someone whose tweets many people here were posting with approval during the shutdown and that makes them ‘corporatist crap’? Is a major newspaper automatically faulted in your mind if it hires a conservative?
108 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:41:33pm |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
So the Post hires someone whose tweets we were all posting with approval during the shutdown and that makes them ‘corporatist crap’? Is a major newspaper automatically faulted in your mind if it hires a conservative?
Be careful with that “we” in these circumstances DF. I have never retweeted him or any other person other than Charles.
Never.
Anyone.
I doubt I would retweet even Charles now. It goes against my ever evolving sense of personal honor
109 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:42:36pm |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
So the Post hires someone whose tweets we were all posting with approval during the shutdown and that makes them ‘corporatist crap’? Is a major newspaper automatically faulted in your mind if it hires a conservative?
considering the plethora of Conservative voices and their place/domination of the narrative within the media, do we really need another one?
110 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:43:27pm |
re: #108 William Barnett-Lewis
Understood. Post edited. Please refresh and let me know if the edit addressed your concern.
111 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:45:54pm |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
So the Post hires someone whose tweets we were all posting with approval during the shutdown and that makes them ‘corporatist crap’? Is a major newspaper automatically faulted in your mind if it hires a conservative?
Well, to be fair, I think the implication was that the media in this case was already corporatist crap.
re: #105 Interesting Times
What’s next, Santorum as a columnist on women’s issues? 9_9
As if we needed more proof that traditional media is nothing but steaming corporatist crap.
I’ve highlighted the relevant part for you.
112 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:47:21pm |
re: #109 piratedan
considering the plethora of Conservative voices and their place/domination of the narrative within the media, do we really need another one?
I don’t see how you say they dominate the narrative. The Washington Post has for the most part hired liberals, excepting of course the racist Richard Cohen (who pretends to be a liberal). Hiring mainstream conservative like Costa is a departure for them, and he is competent and sane.
This is not a negative development.
113 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:48:53pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
I have a sneaking suspicion we are talking past each other tonight, DF. I won’t push this one, I”ve too much whiskey on board and we’re talking past each other. Perhaps, the lord willing, we’ll come to a place we can both discuss this in a better manner.
114 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:50:20pm |
re: #111 dr. klys
Well, to be fair, I think the implication was that the media in this case was already corporatist crap.
I’ve highlighted the relevant part for you.
Yeah, but what I take issue with is comparing Robert Costa to Rick Santorum with the implication that Costa is unfit for the role he is being hired for.
And I still do not understand how his hiring constitutes “more proof that traditional media is nothing but steaming corporatist crap”.
115 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:52:35pm |
re: #113 William Barnett-Lewis
I have a sneaking suspicion we are talking past each other tonight, DF. I won’t push this one, I”ve too much whiskey on board and we’re talking past each other. Perhaps, the lord willing, we’ll come to a place we can both discuss this in a better manner.
I’ll leave the matter for now, but I would also politely note that you might wish to invoke the Iron Fist Rule if you are being affected by whiskey to that degree.
116 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:53:21pm |
re: #112 Dark_Falcon
I don’t see how you say they dominate the narrative. The Washington Post has for the most part hired liberals, excepting of course the racist Richard Cohen (who pretends to be a liberal). Hiring mainstream conservative like Costa is a departure for them, and he is competent and sane.
This is not a negative development.
Ok DF, feel free to name all of the liberal OpEd Columnists and tell me when the last time you saw any of them on a Sunday national news show. I’m willing to stand corrected…..
117 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:53:40pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Here’s why I find the 60 minutes promotion for Amazon a little suspicious.
Here’s That Amazon Delivery Drone That You Won’t Actually See For A Long TimeYes, there’s some news value to the possibility of drone delivery but the free promotion on a news program just looks like one business doing a favor for another business.
There’s probably a market for the service in the future, indicated independently by the announced Kozmo.com relaunch. For what should be obvious reasons it will be limited to the same kinds of things Kozmo delivered between 1998 to 2001, ice cream, chips / candy, movies and video games: Drones can only carry so much weight. One problem is that delivery of things like games and movies has shifted heavily towards the internet, where it will always be cheaper, so Prime Air will probably end up being a munchy delivery service for well funded potheads, and I’m not sure how much of a market there is for that. Along that line, in Seattle since it’s legal now someone could probably make a go of delivering pot and pot brownies. Also, while I’m thinking about it “Drone Strike” would be a good name for a strain.
Prescriptions are light so Amazon could expand into an online pharmacy, but then the delivery end point security needs to be very tight, and Amazon will need to keep live pharmacists on staff for consultations.
The other problem is that the highest density and thus most profitable urban areas are going to be some of the more difficult places for drones to make deliveries to. Not all apartment dwellers have balconies, especially those in older buildings. Also not many buildings allow roof access for all residents out of insurance liability concerns. Then there’s the infrastructure obstacles, overhead power and dc mass transit lines. So this might have to roll out into the suburbs first.
118 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:53:48pm |
A month out from Japan and my husband has already started watching the reservations on the shinkansen. God help us when the appropriate dates on the Cassiopeia come into view. New Year’s in Tokyo.
I’m hoping I can convince him that we should do the temple near Tokyo Tower for the balloon release at midnight, but I may not win that discussion.
And hot springs! Fooooooooooooood. God, the food from the department stores in Tokyo, give me a tonkatsu bento and I am happy. And curry. Ramen. We will do shio ramen in Hakodate and I will be happy. And he will have beer. We’re going to try to get by Misawa to see the air force base where my aunt was born and my grandfather was stationed at twice. And snow in Sapporo. God, I want snow. Snow snow snow. Maybe Aoni Onsen in the snow.
119 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:54:27pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
And I still do not understand how his hiring constitutes “more proof that traditional media is nothing but steaming corporatist crap”.
The national review is a racist rag that harasses and defames climate scientists. I don’t give a fruit fly’s microscopic poop if one of their writers is slightly less derpy than the others.
My larger point is that his hiring proves the corporatist media is simply out for more sensationalism, more false balance, and less truth.
121 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:55:21pm |
re: #119 Interesting Times
Totally unrelated, but how did NaNo go???
122 | Kragar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:55:48pm |
re: #118 dr. klys
A month out from Japan and my husband has already started watching the reservations on the shinkansen. God help us when the appropriate dates on the Cassiopeia come into view. New Year’s in Tokyo.
I’m hoping I can convince him that we should do the temple near Tokyo Tower for the balloon release at midnight, but I may not win that discussion.
And hot springs! Fooooooooooooood. God, the food from the department stores in Tokyo, give me a tonkatsu bento and I am happy. And curry. Ramen. We will do shio ramen in Hakodate and I will be happy. And he will have beer. We’re going to try to get by Misawa to see the air force base where my aunt was born and my grandfather was stationed at twice. And snow in Sapporo. God, I want snow. Snow snow snow. Maybe Aoni Onsen in the snow.
I was stationed in Yokosuka for about 18 months, then spent 6 months down in Okinawa.
123 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:56:38pm |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
The only two folks that I have ever seen on any news show on MSNBC are Dionne and Robinson, With Krauthammer, Cohen, Millbank and Will, I’d suggest that there are already plenty of Conservative viewpoints being expressed.
124 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:56:48pm |
re: #121 dr. klys
Totally unrelated, but how did NaNo go???
I lost :( Couldn’t write enough to fill the 50k quota. But on the bright side, in addition to my novel, I have what might be a pretty cool short story idea now (about 40% written in human-readable form, the rest, my rough outlines and notes)
125 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:57:55pm |
re: #112 Dark_Falcon
I don’t see how you say they dominate the narrative. The Washington Post has for the most part hired liberals, excepting of course the racist Richard Cohen (who pretends to be a liberal). Hiring mainstream conservative like Costa is a departure for them
Um, have you forgotten about hack extraordinaire jennifer rubin?
126 | Kragar Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:57:56pm |
127 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:58:32pm |
re: #126 Kragar
Tucker Carlson defends Logan on Benghazi: ‘Sometimes the best stories have flaky sources’
Great! He’ll be hired by WaPo any day now!
128 | gwangung Sun, Dec 1, 2013 9:59:16pm |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
I don’t watch Sunday news shows.
That’s a rather evasive answer and doesn’t deal with the substance of pirate dan’s argument.
I would at least think you’d try a bit harder.
129 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:00:02pm |
re: #124 Interesting Times
I lost :( Couldn’t write enough to fill the 50k quota. But on the bright side, in addition to my novel, I have what might be a pretty short story idea now (about 40% written in human-readable form, the rest, my rough outlines and notes)
You made it further than I did, where I abandoned all hope pre-Nov. 1 after the class seriously started kicking my butt. :(
re: #122 Kragar
I was stationed in Yokosuka for about 18 months, then spent 6 months down in Okinawa.
The husband may have visited Yokosuka when he lived in Tokyo in the 90s. We both want to see Okinawa yet, but not this trip: we’re definitely going north.
130 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:00:13pm |
re: #123 piratedan
The only two folks that I have ever seen on any news show on MSNBC are Dionne and Robinson, With Krauthammer, Cohen, Millbank and Will, I’d suggest that there are already plenty of Conservative viewpoints being expressed.
Well, there is also Paul Krugman. He’s on the Sunday shows on a semi-regular basis and he’s a liberal columnist.
131 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:00:26pm |
re: #125 Interesting Times
Um, have you gotten about hack extraordinaire jennifer rubin?
Also George Will and Fuckface Krauthammer.
132 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:01:17pm |
I’d also point out that Robert Costa is being hired as a reporter, NOT a columnist. He’s being hired for his contacts and skills, not for his political views.
133 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:03:14pm |
re: #112 Dark_Falcon
I don’t see how you say they dominate the narrative. The Washington Post has for the most part hired liberals, excepting of course the racist Richard Cohen (who pretends to be a liberal). Hiring mainstream conservative like Costa is a departure for them, and he is competent and sane.
This is not a negative development.
Excepting only Cohen? When did Krauthammer and Rubin stop writing for the Post?
ETA: And Will, since I’m already echoing everyone else here. Sigh.
134 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:03:37pm |
re: #132 Dark_Falcon
I’d also point out that Robert Costa is being hired as a reporter.
Wonderful! More atrociously sourced, made-up bullshit, BENGHAZI!!!11! Boogaloo style!
Crap, too late in the east coast time zone for me to continue this. But I will subscribe for replies
135 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:05:08pm |
re: #132 Dark_Falcon
I’d also point out that Robert Costa is being hired as a reporter, NOT a columnist. He’s being hired for his contacts and skills, not for his political views.
You know, to be fair, I think I’d be more comfortable if he was hired as a columnist. At least be honest about the bias.
We’re talking about someone who has been writing things with a very particular spin for a long while, who now is going to have to step back and be neutral about it. Most humans don’t do that well.
136 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:05:09pm |
re: #134 Interesting Times
And what in that vein has Mr. Costa written?
137 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:06:03pm |
re: #135 dr. klys
You know, to be fair, I think I’d be more comfortable if he was hired as a columnist. At least be honest about the bias.
We’re talking about someone who has been writing things with a very particular spin for a long while, who now is going to have to step back and be neutral about it. Most humans don’t do that well.
But he does deserve a chance to do so, does he not?
138 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:06:21pm |
re: #130 Dark_Falcon
Well, there is also Paul Krugman. He’s on the Sunday shows on a semi-regular basis and he’s a liberal columnist.
yeah, but when I link over to WaPo, he’s not listed on their roster (neither was Rubin, hence why I excluded her), doesn’t mean that they don’t print him or run his syndicated column when it suits them. What I am trying to indicate here DF is there there are a boatload of conservative voices in the MSM and very few liberal ones. As a case in point, we’re just as bad about not posting the good ideas being written on Liberal sites and blogs as we are being perpetually outraged about the latest daily transgression against common sense and general asshattery that appears from the Conservative side of the aisle. As a rule, about the only Conservative who has apparently not succumbed to embracing complete feudalism is Larison.
139 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:07:10pm |
re: #135 dr. klys
We’re talking about someone who has been writing things with a very particular spin for a long while, who now is going to have to step back and be neutral about it. Most humans don’t do that well.
I predict he’ll do no such thing - just find ways to sneak his agenda into everything, using “I’m just asking questions” as cover. Or the fox news tricks, where he gathers up all the opinion garbage, and presents it as a classic some-people-say “report”
140 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:07:16pm |
There’s probably a middle ground to be reached here. Robert Costa offers insightful coverage of the state of play within the conservative legislative caucus AND he’s a flaccid, wrinkly penis.
141 | Ed E. Lishus Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:07:38pm |
142 | Interesting Times Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:07:51pm |
re: #140 goddamnedfrank
There’s probably a middle ground to be reached here. Robert Costa offers insightful coverage of the state of play within the conservative legislative caucus AND he’s a flaccid, wrinkly penis.
And on that note, I really am out :D Good night all.
143 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:07:55pm |
re: #122 Kragar
I was stationed in Yokosuka for about 18 months, then spent 6 months down in Okinawa.
What my husband took away from visiting Yokosuka: the commissary was apparently amazing, if you were a gaijin living in Tokyo, full of all the brands of American food you cannot find in Japan.
144 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:09:49pm |
re: #141 Ed E. Lishus
Why him in particular?
Because he’s a politically and morally sane human being who is competent for the job he is taking.
145 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:13:03pm |
re: #137 Dark_Falcon
But he does deserve a chance to do so, does he not?
Sure, he deserves a chance to do so. I’m not sure the Washington Post is the right place to give him that chance.
If the desired output is neutral journalism, someone coming from either side and used to writing for that side is going to need editing. Probably a lot of it. Again, these are different skills, different parts of the brain, a different style of writing. One does not translate into the other. It takes work to recognize our own bias and even more work to edit that out. That’s where an editor helps a lot.
Let’s just say the editors at the Washington Post have not inspired me to think that they’re up to the challenge in the past few months.
146 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:14:30pm |
re: #145 dr. klys
Sure, he deserves a chance to do so. I’m not sure the Washington Post is the right place to give him that chance.
If the desired output is neutral journalism, someone coming from either side and used to writing for that side is going to need editing. Probably a lot of it. Again, these are different skills, different parts of the brain, a different style of writing. One does not translate into the other. It takes work to recognize our own bias and even more work to edit that out. That’s where an editor helps a lot.
Let’s just say the editors at the Washington Post have not inspired me to think that they’re up to the challenge in the past few months.
hey, it’s not like the folks editing Rubin and Cohen are doing anything, I’m sure everything will be just fine… /////
147 | Lidane Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:15:18pm |
Oy. Two fundie RW friends of mine are having the “What good has ever come from atheism?” conversation with each other on FB.
I’m tired of the false choice that you’re either a good person who dutifully believes in a God or you’re a horrible, evil atheist. It’s annoying and insulting. It really IS possible to live an ethical life without needing a mythical sky father to keep you in line. I figured that out decades ago.
Ugh. That just irritates me.
148 | gwangung Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:17:40pm |
re: #132 Dark_Falcon
I’d also point out that Robert Costa is being hired as a reporter, NOT a columnist. He’s being hired for his contacts and skills, not for his political views.
Is there equivalents of Costa on the liberal side who who quote and report as well as he does? (This is a serious question, as it goes deeper to compare).
149 | sagehen Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:18:09pm |
re: #117 goddamnedfrank
Along that line, in Seattle since it’s legal now someone could probably make a go of delivering pot and pot brownies. Also, while I’m thinking about it “Drone Strike” would be a good name for a strain.
There’s been such a service in NYC (probably many of them, I only dealt with one) for decades.
Delivery guy rides a bike, has a fanny pack full of 1/8 and 1/4 oz bags, in the days before cell phones (or even beepers) became so common he’d have to call the office from each stop to ask where he’s going next….
Surprisingly competitive pricing, too — about the same price as the corner boys, better quality, and you don’t have to go out into the cold in the middle of the winter.
150 | klys Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:18:11pm |
re: #147 Lidane
Oy. Two fundie RW friends of mine are having the “What good has ever come from atheism?” conversation with each other on FB.
I’m tired of the false choice that you’re either a good person who dutifully believes in a God or you’re a horrible, evil atheist. It’s annoying and insulting. It really IS possible to live an ethical life without needing a mythical sky father to keep you in line. I figured that out decades ago.
Ugh. That just irritates me.
HEATHEN.
There’s a reason I only keep up with roughly 20 people on Facebook - the ones I can rely on not to post political shit (to which I return the favor). I’d much rather read about my vet friend’s caselist at work.
151 | Ed E. Lishus Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:18:42pm |
re: #144 Dark_Falcon
This hiring strikes me as rather “conventional,” sort of in the vain of NBC promoting Chuck Todd after the ‘08 elections. Which is fine I suppose, but I would hope for a little more from the supposed “Paper of Record.”
152 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:23:51pm |
re: #148 gwangung
Is there equivalents of Costa on the liberal side who who quote and report as well as he does? (This is a serious question, as it goes deeper to compare).
I’m sure there are, but I read National Review and not The Nation.
153 | Amory Blaine Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:26:40pm |
Hmm Cyber Monday is starting off kind of boring.
154 | gwangung Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:30:03pm |
re: #152 Dark_Falcon
I’m sure there are, but I read >National Review and not >The Nation.
Might this suggest that you’re not well equipped to evaluate non-conservatives? Particularly when it comes to the original question, where it was suggested that Costa’s expertise may not be as valuable as you think?
155 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:33:42pm |
re: #154 gwangung
No, it wouldn’t. It’s after midnight and I’m not going to look at the reporting of a whole bunch of people and then do a comparison. Good reporters can be both liberal and conservative. That was my point. It seemed to me that Robert Costa was being treated as if his name was “Generic Wingnut”.
156 | Ed E. Lishus Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:39:30pm |
Yeah, so here’s a blurb from a memo WaPo sent to its staff on the Costa hiring:
New York magazine, which called Bob the “golden boy of the government shutdown,” wrote this about him last month: “[H]is reporting from behind the closed doors of Republicans in Congress held up as indispensable, a shining beacon of the form in which a man tirelessly asks questions and prints answers without fluff or bluster.” In other words, our kind of guy.
Golly, a “shining beacon” even. Seriously this has “beltway insider” written all over it.
157 | piratedan Sun, Dec 1, 2013 10:49:11pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
No, it wouldn’t. It’s after midnight and I’m not going to look at the reporting of a whole bunch of people and then do a comparison. Good reporters can be both liberal and conservative. >That was my point. It seemed to me that Robert Costa was being treated as if his name was “Generic Wingnut”.
and that’s totally unfair of us, you’re right DF. He’s sounds like another Dave Weigel, probably with better framing as far as you’re concerned. Excuse the rest of us if we feel that we don’t need to be privy to which clique of the Republican Mickey Mouse chorus that currently walk among the halls of Congress is ready to impeach Obama or diss the ACA without merit, lacking the legislative nuance we all crave. I’d be just as happy if someone was hired who would be willing to call out the daily hypocrisy that encompasses the GOP on a daily basis, but thankfully we have Charlie Pierce for that.
159 | freetoken Sun, Dec 1, 2013 11:31:59pm |
Google doodle celebrates Maria Callas 90th birthday… and so shall we, with her singing the prettiest song in the book:
160 | freetoken Sun, Dec 1, 2013 11:34:31pm |
If that link breaks for you try this one:
161 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 2, 2013 3:15:16am |
re: #43 Lidane
Yeah, that whole “collapse of the Soviet Union” thing seems to elude a lot of people.
Although there is a large ethnic Russian minority there that makes things even more confusing.
162 | Dr Lizardo Mon, Dec 2, 2013 3:39:17am |
re: #92 Lidane
He was also Caesar on Xena.
Funny thing about that— I used to watch Hercules and Xena back in the day because they were cheesy, goofy fun. It was only after the LOTR films that I realized he was the same actor. Heh.
Heh. Many, many years ago, when I saw “Star Trek III”, it took me a while to realize that the Klingon Commander Kruge was being played by Rev. Jim Ignatowski from “Taxi”.
I kept thinking, “That voice is so familiar……” Then it hit me: Christopher Lloyd.
John Larroquette of “Night Court” was also in that film as a Klingon as well.
163 | Romantic Heretic Mon, Dec 2, 2013 4:21:57am |
re: #43 Lidane
Yeah, that whole “collapse of the Soviet Union” thing seems to elude a lot of people.
How are you going to know what to do if you don’t have an enemy? semi/
164 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 4:51:25am |
I see you have guests. You may also be interested in …. curtains. #AmazonDrones pic.twitter.com/bGch8nZdyp
— Amazon Drone Bot (@AmazonDroneBot) December 2, 2013
166 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:18:44am |
Opposition Protestors in Ukraine Erect Tent City in Kiev Overnight
Predicted Killgore Trout Reaction: OH NOES!!1 A tent city means the protestors are hippies!!11 If they aren’t run off their gonna start with TEH RAPEY-STABBY!!!11 PUTIN HAS TO MAKE YANUKOVYCH DROP PEPPER SPRAY BOMBZ ON TEH TENTZ OR KIEV IZ DOOOOMED!!!111
167 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:23:24am |
Actually, I can see why this guy is getting a divorce. This was really a douche move in a crowded mall with a performance going on and all for his own ego gratification. No one in that mall needed a dollar here, a dollar there. Donating it to a charity, like a food bank, would not have garnered this attention. He’s just one more nobody trying to use bad behavior to fame-whore himself into the spotlight.
Man throws $1,000 in dollar bills from top floor of mall to ‘pay it forward,’ gets cited for disorderly conduct
“He said in an explanation via YouTube, “I had a really tough year. My story is that I just threw out my last thousands dollars. I don’t have enough money for a lot of things and I’m going through a horrible divorce. She even took the cat and won’t tell me where it is.”
Vorbyov continued, “I thought I’d just spread some holiday cheer, be positive, and kind of like pay it forward and make it snow money. I thought it’d be fun.”
(snip)
“Vorobyov stamped each of the bills with his YouTube address and on his Facebook page he said the event a publicity stunt. When asked why he wanted the publicity, he said he wanted his cat back from his estranged wife.
“Mall of America spokeswoman Sarah Schmidt said it’s the first time anyone has ever done something like that in the mall. She said Vorobyov disrupted the performance and could have caused a serious situation, but he was released when it was confirmed there were no injuries.”
Jesushchrist, a lot of people are having a “tough” year, but they don’t draw attention to themselves by this kind of stunt. I’ll bet he’s lying that it’s his last thou, too.
It’s the cat’s fault, of course. : )
168 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:30:45am |
re: #167 Justanotherhuman
He’s just acting randomly because he has been deprived of the direction and order previously imposed upon him by his Feline Overlord.
169 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:34:15am |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
He’s just acting randomly because he has been deprived of the direction and order previously imposed upon him by his Feline Overlord.
The cat was probably glad to see the back of him.
170 | Stoatly Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:45:06am |
re: #49 Political Atheist
Gotta think it wont be too long before we see manned quad copters. Great design.
These guys aren’t far off
Octadecacopter?
I admit to knowing next to nothing about aerodynamics - but I’m surprised lots of little rotors can match or surpass one big one for efficiency and noise
(remembering the far-off days of building computer towers - one big fan always being quieter than lots of little ‘uns)
171 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:02:33am |
“@Lattouf: #AmazonDrones pic.twitter.com/TGbXwFA2qk”— Pallavi P (@Pallaweee) December 2, 2013
172 | Political Atheist Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:09:58am |
re: #170 Stoatly
Paged that a few days ago. Looks very doable.
173 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:16:23am |
Skull find shows women were sacrificed in ancient China
Beijing — Archaeologists in China have unearthed the skulls of more than 80 young women who may have been sacrificed more than 4,000 years ago, state media reported Monday.
“The skulls were found in what appears to have been a mass grave at the Shimao Ruins, the site of a neolithic stone city in the northern province of Shaanxi.
“The women’s bodies were not present, the official news agency Xinhua said, adding that archaeologists concluded that the skulls were “likely to be related to the construction of the city wall” in “ancient religious activities or foundation ceremonies” before construction began.”
Not so much different than the sacrificing of women in modern society for the various projects and successes of men. We’re just not as directly brutal about it.
174 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:27:06am |
re: #173 Justanotherhuman
No, its different. directly murdering someone like that is a major escalation from misogyny,
175 | makeitstop Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:28:42am |
‘Morning, Lizards,
For some reason, this screed telling about people who mocked God and died horrible, grisly deaths as a result showed up a few times on Facebook yesterday with thousands of comments, most of which consisted of ‘Amen.’
All I could think was these people see their God as a vindictive, punishing deity who will kill you if you talk shit about him. And they seem to be okay with that. Pretty depressing.
176 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:28:45am |
Alright Back to the Future, it’s nearly 2014. Where’s those flying cars you promised? Seriously, there has got to be a cheaper and faster method of seeing my relatives besides a 12 hr car trip. Yegods.
177 | Dr. Matt Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:31:34am |
re: #176 Targetpractice
Alright Back to the Future, it’s nearly 2014. Where’s those flying cars you promised?
It’s Obama’s fault we don’t have them. His Marxist, Socialist, Commie, Big Gov policies are forcing the flying car industry to fail.
178 | Political Atheist Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:31:38am |
re: #176 Targetpractice
Alright Back to the Future, it’s nearly 2014. Where’s those flying cars you promised? Seriously, there has got to be a cheaper and faster method of seeing my relatives besides a 12 hr car trip. Yegods.
Skype.
179 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:33:10am |
re: #178 Political Atheist
Skype.
I thought about that, then remembered I like my grandmother’s cooking too much to just give her a video call on Thanksgiving.
181 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:37:30am |
Sometimes a tree is just a tree..
I guess this is why you don't put Christmas lights on a palm tree pic.twitter.com/n8kx91WZ3i
— Terrifying Posts (@TerrifyingPosts) December 1, 2013
182 | Political Atheist Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:38:47am |
re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth
Palm Springs?
183 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:40:13am |
Today, @HealthCareGov is responding quicker & can handle larger amounts of traffic. READ MORE: http://t.co/Ig3gBtLxMw #GetCovered— Kathleen Sebelius (@Sebelius) December 2, 2013
184 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:41:19am |
Greets and saluts from the Blackest of Black Mondays. An extended weekend can do that. Cyber Monday sales are going strong (or hoping that people spend big).
That wasn’t what caught my eye scanning morning news reports.
The unrest in Thailand is troubling - a soft coup appears underway against the regime there, which started after the current government sought to provide amnesty for a prior leader. Class warfare is playing a role there.
Then, there’s the violence in the Ukraine after the government there essentially scuttled a deal to work closer with the EU after Russian pressure. That didn’t sit well with many Ukranians, so there’s calls for a revolution/uprising against the regime there.
I found this photo essay pretty interesting as a glimpse into the way Saudi women live. Those interviewed don’t think that their lives are repressed, though this particular cross section appears to be better connected and more affluent so as to avoid the strictures that prohibit driving or other public acts. In particular, this passage is troubling:
Although Arthur certainly experienced the restrictive side of Saudi life—where women aren’t allowed to drive and must seek permission from a male guardian to do the most basic things, like attend school or travel—she said she also experienced pockets of a more liberal lifestyle, one in which girlfriends and boyfriends existed and women went to parties in compounds or private beach houses. In fact, Arthur said, many of her students didn’t see their lives as negative or oppressed. “They were often very defensive, saying, ‘We have our freedoms. We do what we like.’ They were almost entirely from middle to upper-middle class families. They mostly didn’t have to worry about money or work at all,” she said.
Arthur’s students often surprised her. After Arthur’s repeated encouragement, one of her least experienced students went to take pictures of Indian workers. One day, the police picked her up, and her father had to come to get her. “I was amazed when the next day she went back because there was a particular picture she wanted,” Arthur said. “They do lead very sheltered lives, but some of the women are quite tough despite it.”
185 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:42:51am |
re: #183 darthstar
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Yeah, but the critics have already set an impossible goal, namely 0% failure rate, and so will declare any improvements to be “insufficient.”
186 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:42:59am |
re: #176 Targetpractice
Alright Back to the Future, it’s nearly 2014. Where’s those flying cars you promised? Seriously, there has got to be a cheaper and faster method of seeing my relatives besides a 12 hr car trip. Yegods.
8 1/2 - 9 hours for us. Really only a 7 1/2 hour drive, but once I-5 turns into a vehicular accordion, the only choice is to zoom and brake, zoom and brake, zoom and brake…for hours. I hate that kind of driving…just fucks with my head.
187 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:44:56am |
re: #186 darthstar
8 1/2 - 9 hours for us. Really only a 7 1/2 hour drive, but once I-5 turns into a vehicular accordion, the only choice is to zoom and brake, zoom and brake, zoom and brake…for hours. I hate that kind of driving…just fucks with my head.
It was I-81 for us that was an absolute nightmare. Think we lost close to an hour with stop-and-go traffic. Note to self, next time I travel back, start the return trip either on Saturday or Monday.
188 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:49:48am |
Halle-freaking-lujah, the Obamacare Web site makeover ROCKS http://t.co/LJGmEDLf4c #lnyhbt #tcot #gop #rnc #teaparty @speakerboehner— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 2, 2013
189 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:52:26am |
re: #187 Targetpractice
We left at 4:30am Wednesday morning - made it to Palm Springs by 1pm - even taking mostly two lane highways around the LA basin. Coming back, we stayed on the major interstate - that made it take as long as the small road route we took going down.
I’d rather drive an extra hour where I was moving than sit idle by the Harris Ranch Cattle Death Camps.
190 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:05:07am |
Went out and got my tree the old fashioned way yesterday…I bought it.
Image: 1457521_10152066815713024_1226143747_n.jpg
Wife puts down a beach mat to protect roof from the tree…roof just so happens to be covered with sand as I’d just taken the surfboards off after our afternoon ride with friends and hadn’t hosed the car down yet.
By the way…my hanging geraniums are doing quite well though this pic doesn’t do them justice.
191 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:06:07am |
re: #187 Targetpractice
It was I-81 for us that was an absolute nightmare. Think we lost close to an hour with stop-and-go traffic. Note to self, next time I travel back, start the return trip either on Saturday or Monday.
6 hours for me yesterday. Traffic started getting thick around the I-80/PA Turnpike intersection. Heavy backup on I-76 going into Philly, but that was mainly due to an accident.
Very glad I opted to do the drive north last Monday. I dodged the Tuesday weather that would have made the 2-3 construction zones I drove through nightmares.
192 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:06:30am |
Same sex marriage now legal in Hawaii. Meanwhile, Ted Nugent still allowed to marry in all 50 states #equality pic.twitter.com/1EyZFHibFK— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) December 2, 2013
193 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:07:10am |
Good morning Lizards! Cloudy, 40F, and overcast in Philly.
The cats are prepping for the next holiday already.
194 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:07:35am |
'Defund Obamacare or the idiot gets it' pic.twitter.com/TdVYLU5jPL— TheObamaDiary.com (@TheObamaDiary) December 2, 2013
195 | Bulworth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:11:01am |
So, what is the MSM upset with Obama for this week today?
196 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:11:22am |
This will get the GOP conspiracy theorists all wee-wee’d up.
Time to end presidential term limits? @NYUIntEdProgram Professor Jonathan Zimmerman says yes: http://t.co/J9QFMUAu45— Michael Smerconish (@smerconish) December 2, 2013
197 | Bulworth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:12:26am |
re: #192 darthstar
That pic of the Nuge is a libtard false flag as are all those songs and nasty lyrics about wang dang sweet pootang. //
198 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:13:34am |
re: #197 Bulworth
That pic of the Nuge is a libtard false flag as are all those songs and nasty lyrics about wang dang sweet pootang. //
He just has a Stranglehold on the wingnuts.
199 | Bulworth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:14:51am |
re: #188 darthstar
This is a false flag, too. //
Moonie Times has an above the fold headline something like “Obamacare website fixed but image of failure persists”. OK, whatevs, man.
200 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:16:03am |
re: #190 darthstar
Went out and got my tree the old fashioned way yesterday…I bought it.
Image: 1457521_10152066815713024_1226143747_n.jpg
Wife puts down a beach mat to protect roof from the tree…roof just so happens to be covered with sand as I’d just taken the surfboards off after our afternoon ride with friends and hadn’t hosed the car down yet.
By the way…my hanging geraniums are doing quite well though this pic doesn’t do them justice.
Hope you put it in front of that nice picture window. : )
We’re looking at a fake tree with a one-time investment, even though I like real trees, buying one that’s already sat out for a couple of weeks already seems too much like a fire hazard. Might get some real garlands, though, just for the fresh greenery.
201 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:17:37am |
re: #199 Bulworth
This is a false flag, too. //
Moonie Times has an above the fold headline something like “Obamacare website fixed but image of failure persists”. OK, whatevs, man.
They were really hoping that the artificial deadline set would come and the site would still be a mess, so they might have something to take into the coming budget/deficit ceiling showdown. “Yeah, we’re threatening another shutdown, but this time for good reason!!!”
202 | Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:18:19am |
203 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:20:16am |
It's awful quiet out there. That's the sound of Americans quietly researching and enrolling in affordable healthcare http://t.co/lMXpHZhShW
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) December 2, 2013
204 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:21:29am |
Nukes aside, Iran is working to extend its military reach:
Iran launches new submarine class
Iran has launched a new class of submarine that has never been seen before, satellite imagery obtained by IHS Jane’s reveals.
One of the boats can clearly be seen in the water at the Bostanu shipyard on the Strait of Hormuz in Astrium imagery taken on 27 October. It measures 40.5 m long and 4 m wide at the waterline.
A second can be seen under construction at the Bandar Anzali Naval Base on the Caspian Sea on 17 September. It is partially shrouded by scaffolding, but is approximately 48 m long and 6 m wide.
Senior Iranian officials have previously said that it is building a new class of 500 tonne submarines called the Fateh, although the timeline appears to have slipped repeatedly. In April, Deputy Defence Minister for Industrial and Research Affairs Mohammad Eslami said: “The first Iranian 500 tonne submarine will be unveiled by 31 Mordad [22 August 2013].”
Iran may now be planning to unveil the new submarines during its Navy Day, which is held on 28 November to mark a naval victory over Iraq in 1980.
I’m going to look and see if Iran showed off its new sub.
205 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:22:53am |
Scott High on lockdown on reports of suspect with gun in school
Read more at toledoblade.com
206 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:25:58am |
@ThomasARoberts @msnbc Yes, #FFS, since November 14th. They promised BY Nov 30, not AFTER Nov 30. And @Sebelius delivered. Credit her. #ACA— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 2, 2013
207 | Lancelot Link Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:26:01am |
re: #176 Targetpractice
Alright Back to the Future, it’s nearly 2014. Where’s those flying cars you promised?
Here you go; one of the 5 original Aerocars, and at the bargain price of just 2.2 million dollars!
208 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:27:43am |
re: #204 Dark_Falcon
Nukes aside, Iran is working to extend its military reach:
Iran launches new submarine class
I’m going to look and see if Iran showed off its new sub.
We should take away their apricots too, so they can’t make cyanide.
/facepalm at the fear of a functioning Iran.
209 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:30:08am |
re: #206 darthstar
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100,000 sign-ups in a month when every news report was “Millions turning away from Healthcare.Gov! How will Obama survive?!” I’d say whatever problems the media still sees in the site exist solely in their heads.
210 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:30:22am |
re: #208 darthstar
We should take away their apricots too, so they can’t make cyanide.
/facepalm at the fear of a functioning Iran.
Why do you think I’m afraid?
211 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:36:33am |
*sniff* What’s that smell? Oh right, desperation:
Erick Erickson On Obamacare: ‘We Must Deny Them The Opportunity To Fix The Law Itself’
212 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:36:41am |
re: #209 Targetpractice
If the site’s functioning and people can now get plan information without requiring registration, that will do a whole lot to reduce the frustration with the site.
The next step is whether they’ve resolved the application process problems, along with the transmittal of data to insurers (834 reports). Finally, there’s the back end processing portion of the site - that portion of the puzzle that gets payments to insurers and deals with the subsidies.
Having easy access to the information is key and critical to the ACA’s long term success. I’d say that the revamp does just that, and undermines the GOP’s continued opposition. We’ll see how the application numbers pick up and how many more people are now covered.
213 | Eventual Carrion Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:37:44am |
re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth
Scott High on lockdown on reports of suspect with gun in school
Read more at toledoblade.com
Here in PA today there are many school kids carrying guns. No school because of first day of deer season. Hope things are ok at that school.
214 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:38:41am |
SCOTUS declines to hear sales tax case; meaning states can compel online retailers to collect tax from online sales http://t.co/qA2glb3fOj— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 2, 2013
215 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:40:07am |
re: #212 lawhawk
If the site’s functioning and people can now get plan information without requiring registration, that will do a whole lot to reduce the frustration with the site.
The next step is whether they’ve resolved the application process problems, along with the transmittal of data to insurers (834 reports). Finally, there’s the back end processing portion of the site - that portion of the puzzle that gets payments to insurers and deals with the subsidies.
Having easy access to the information is key and critical to the ACA’s long term success. I’d say that the revamp does just that, and undermines the GOP’s continued opposition. We’ll see how the application numbers pick up and how many more people are now covered.
The back-end bits, the real workings behind the scenes, will still take time to get properly fixed. But if the majority of people who go onto the site can view policies and apply with few or no problems, then the GOP’s criticisms start to fall flat. If anything, another shutdown fight would simply draw people’s attention to the site, further undermining their campaign against the law.
216 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:40:24am |
re: #212 lawhawk
If the site’s functioning and people can now get plan information without requiring registration, that will do a whole lot to reduce the frustration with the site.
The next step is whether they’ve resolved the application process problems, along with the transmittal of data to insurers (834 reports). Finally, there’s the back end processing portion of the site - that portion of the puzzle that gets payments to insurers and deals with the subsidies.
Having easy access to the information is key and critical to the ACA’s long term success. I’d say that the revamp does just that, and undermines the GOP’s continued opposition. We’ll see how the application numbers pick up and how many more people are now covered.
I do begin to wonder whether the GOP sabotage and repeal efforts might eventually trigger a major backfire. At the public level it might be viewed as something that works and it is obvious that the GOP has done nothing productive to help the law help the citizenry. At the business level the insurance industry might start seeing the GOP work as counterproductive to their profit making since the GOP efforts are complicating their work, and the obvious next step is for the GOP to start throwing up roadblocks by adding “extras” to the ACA at the state and national level to make applying and using the law more bureaucratic and annoying.
217 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:49:21am |
.@SpeakerBoehner .@washingtonpost #GOP #obstructionism causes uncertainty and driving up costs - higher costs WI vs MN health markets— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 2, 2013
218 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:50:24am |
Taking advantage of the homeless—for money from the City and mega-profits.
Why Run a Slum If You Can Make More Money Housing the Homeless?
One notorious real-estate family has converted its run-down buildings into for-profit shelters, paid for by the city. The going rent per cubicle: $3,600 a month.
In a just society, these leeching Podolskys would be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law for fraud.
219 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:50:34am |
re: #216 Feline Fearless Leader
People will forget that stuff, and it will fade into the background. Watch the GOP pivot from straight obstructionism to claiming that their efforts helped improve the exchange site faster than it would have otherwise done had Democrats had their way.
It will be pretzel logic at its crunchiest.
220 | lawhawk Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:51:20am |
SCOTUS declines to hear Liberty University's Obamacare suit: http://t.co/QHgzvCh2Ly— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) December 2, 2013
BWHAHAHA
Put in more legal terms - the rule of 4 meant that not even the socon wing of the Court (Robert, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia) could agree that this merited a review.
The Court will still hear the Hobby Lobby case, but this does put a damper on the GOP assault on the ACA by any means necessary. Fact is that the GOP has pushed extremist legal arguments to get as far as they have, and trying to claim that a company has religious freedom rights under the 1st is a right that simply doesn’t exist anywhere - even among those who argued that corporations are people (a legal fiction).
221 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:57:01am |
The GOP’s worst nightmare is slowly dawning, but won’t really get kicked into overdrive until next February, when millions go to work and find that their employer health benefits didn’t disappear, the economy didn’t collapse, and all the provisions of the law like wellness check-ups really begin to kick in.
222 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:59:11am |
Well, I did find photos of what Iran showed off last week, and you can see them here and here.
They also claim to have put a new phased array radar into service. I take that with a teaspoon of salt, but if its functional it would still be a capability upgrade.
We’re still a lot better than Iran, but that amphibious warfare stuff Iran showed is likely to scare the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia. They worry quite a bit about Iran trying to annex Shia-majority parts of Arabia.
223 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:01:14am |
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Well, I did find photos of what Iran showed off last week, and you can see them here and here.
We’re still a lot better than Iran, but that amphibious warfare stuff Iran showed is likely to scare the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia. They worry quite a bit about Iran trying to annex Shia-majority parts of Arabia.
It would be disturbing to see a feudal monarchy falling to an elected democracy…
224 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:03:03am |
re: #220 lawhawk
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Put in more legal terms - the rule of 4 meant that not even the socon wing of the Court (Robert, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia) could agree that this merited a review.
The Court will still hear the Hobby Lobby case, but this does put a damper on the GOP assault on the ACA by any means necessary. Fact is that the GOP has pushed extremist legal arguments to get as far as they have, and trying to claim that a company has religious freedom rights under the 1st is a right that simply doesn’t exist anywhere - even among those who argued that corporations are people (a legal fiction).
That isn’t a surprise, though, since SCOTUS already ruled on the individual mandate last year, and the employer mandate uses the same tax penalty structure. The issue was already decided and you wouldn’t expect the Supreme Court to revisit it so soon.
225 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:04:57am |
re: #219 lawhawk
People will forget that stuff, and it will fade into the background. Watch the GOP pivot from straight obstructionism to claiming that their efforts helped improve the exchange site faster than it would have otherwise done had Democrats had their way.
It will be pretzel logic at its crunchiest.
Probably. Given how the Twitterverse appears to not understand parties switching policy views in their constant search to find votes and influence. I’m surprised PPoZ doesn’t have that CRA vote breakdown and other data loaded in a short-cut accessible memory cache yet.
Since I have a running meme of referring to politics as a version of Calvinball I just refer to the mid-60s political scene as someone touching the opposite pole around 1965 or so.
(And, to an extent, the same sort of thing happened in the late 1850s. The Democratic Party split along state lines and the Whig Party disintegrated as the regional issues took precedence. Party loyalty held sway for a while, which is what allowed the GOP to coalesce as a union of relatively disparate groups and then start gaining notice as the obvious opposition party to the Democrats. And 1860 pretty much broke down as a regional election where the full-bore Democratic split left a plurality for the Republicans. And things snowballed from there as the radicals pushed things over the edge* in the South and made the following unpleasantness inevitable.)
* - I hold the firing on Fort Sumter one of those political/military events where the triggering event of the war was a war-losing action unto itself. The Pearl Harbor attack by the Japanese was another.
226 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:08:42am |
Poor George pic.twitter.com/9Nv24FmRg9
— Tom Wellborn (@TLW3) December 2, 2013
227 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:09:24am |
re: #223 Sol Berdinowitz
It would be disturbing to see a feudal monarchy falling to an elected democracy…
Iran isn’t an elected democracy. What Iran is, though, is a country whose military takes training and proper force balance seriously. Their naval personnel are generally better than those of the gulf states, and their ships’ crews definitely have more training in operating as part of a cohesive task group.
I do not fear Iran’s navy, but I do take it seriously. Their force is still relatively small, and their tech is nowhere near as good as ours, but what they have is staffed by well-trained sailors led by good-quality officers.
228 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:11:47am |
re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth
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He was calling for domestic arms production, to ensure the USA would not have to depend on foreign suppliers. He was also calling for a sound plan for national defense.
Both of those points match Washington’s other historical words, deeds, and attitudes,
229 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:12:08am |
re: #227 Dark_Falcon
Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is a feudal monarchy whose leaders stay in power by bribing its people with a share of its oil revenues. If they dry up or are disrupted, the people”s true feeling about their ruling family will start to come out.
230 | Bulworth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:12:55am |
re: #211 Targetpractice
“Conservatives need to keep their focus on the law overall. The website is a reflection of a terrible law. The law is causing millions to lose insurance, millions more to pay more for insurance, and the best the Democrats can do is claim it’d work well if the GOP didn’t think nasty thoughts about it,” Erickson wrote
Is something preventing Erick son of Erick from seeing the many more millions who will end up with insurance for the first time, millions who will pay less for insurance now, and the millions who will get better insurance because of the ACA?
231 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:14:46am |
re: #230 Bulworth
Is something preventing Erick son of Erick from seeing the many more millions who will end up with insurance for the first time, millions who will pay less for insurance now, and the millions who will get better insurance because of the ACA?
Fanatical devotion to an outdated ideology.
232 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:18:31am |
re: #229 Sol Berdinowitz
Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is a feudal monarchy whose leaders stay in power by bribing its people with a share of its oil revenues. If they dry up or are disrupted, the people”s true feeling about their ruling family will start to come out.
I know, and the danger for the Saudis is that Iran is likely to have sufficient means to cause that disruption within the next decade, nuke or no nukes.
233 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:19:12am |
re: #230 Bulworth
Is something preventing Erick son of Erick from seeing the many more millions who will end up with insurance for the first time, millions who will pay less for insurance now, and the millions who will get better insurance because of the ACA?
Idealogical blinders. Self-inflicted.
234 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:19:44am |
re: #231 Targetpractice
Fanatical devotion to an outdated ideology.
He is still waiting to get his snazzy uniform.
//
236 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:23:00am |
re: #232 Dark_Falcon
I know, and the danger for the Saudis is that Iran is likely to have sufficient means to cause that disruption within the next decade, nuke or no nukes.
And we will be in the position of having to defend a regressive, Wahabite monarchy in order to protect our economic interests…
237 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:23:38am |
re: #234 Feline Fearless Leader
He is still waiting to get his snazzy uniform.
//
For at least another 30 odd minutes here on the East Coast. How are ya?
238 | b_sharp Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:24:23am |
I once taught a frog to jump at the sound of my voice.
I cut one of its legs off and found it didn’t jump as well.
I cut the other leg off and found it didn’t jump at all.
I concluded a frog hears with its legs.
239 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:26:26am |
The suspect from Scott High School is now in custody.
— Toledo Police (@Toledo_Police) December 2, 2013
A 14-year-old who authorities said had a pellet gun inside Scott High School has been taken into custody without anyone being injured.
Lt. Mark King, a spokesman for Toledo police, said teachers did what they were supposed to do inside the school early today. The teenager, who had the weapon outside of a bag, was eventually isolated and brought to a first-floor hallway.
Read more at toledoblade.com
240 | GunstarGreen Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:26:36am |
re: #230 Bulworth
Is something preventing Erick son of Erick from seeing the many more millions who will end up with insurance for the first time, millions who will pay less for insurance now, and the millions who will get better insurance because of the ACA?
“Fuck You I Got Mine” syndrome.
Had thanksgiving with my father, his wife, my aunt and uncle (his siblings). Despite best efforts to the contrary, he still managed to bring up the ACA, cracking a joke about the website problems.
Big mistake to make when your son, the one that programs for a living, is at the table and everyone knows that he knows more about that subject than you do.
By the end of it, after he’d heard about the current insurance woes of his first wife (my mother) and his brother and sister, and how those didn’t really match up to his Privileged Southern White Male understanding of the world, he didn’t really have anything to respond with.
241 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:27:23am |
re: #236 Sol Berdinowitz
And we will be in the position of having to defend a regressive, Wahabite monarchy in order to protect our economic interests…
Well, there is the matter of an attack on an ally, which will give us a fig leaf, but you’re right.
242 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:30:12am |
Repeal Best Buy!!1one RT @sallykohn: BOOM! RT @StevenTDennis: Cyber Monday: http://t.co/fgBg9oUnaP is up and http://t.co/qEJECzBbcX is down
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) December 2, 2013
243 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:33:23am |
So it’s ridiculous for anyone to believe that a minimum wage of $10 per hour would suddenly leave millions unable to find work.But comments like this show perfectly just how ignorant many Republicans are when it comes to living in poverty. Their two sides to this ridiculous defense against our minimum wage perpetuate the need to keep tens of millions of people in poverty so they can “climb that economic ladder,” while also insinuating this absurd notion that $10 per hour is some “highly-skilled” wage.
One thing I can say with a fair amount of certainty: Any ideas or dogma regarding economcs is a Theory.
245 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:34:33am |
re: #237 Targetpractice
For at least another 30 odd minutes here on the East Coast. How are ya?
A little bit tired. Had a good week off and used the time to visit my brother up in western NY. Got 6” of snow Tuesday night and thus got a “White Thanksgiving”. Pretty quiet time since we were not hosting a dinner and had invites to two dinners for Thursday. We took a “wandering soul”* with us to the dinners and then to a bar to watch the late football game. Rest of the week was spent playing cards, home cooking, and helping sort through my sister-in-law’s possessions for donation or otherwise disposing of. Place was quiet since my niece did Thanksgiving with friends from school rather than traveling for the limited holiday. So it was just my brother and myself in the house.
Then six hour drive back yesterday. Cold and gray out as well, which is simply a little bit depressing.
* - The “wandering soul” was a geology grad my brother knew who was working in Ithaca and didn’t have time/ability to visit family in Long Island. So we was invited to come up and go to dinners with us since it was a much shorter drive.
246 | nines09 Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:35:10am |
re: #28 Amory Blaine
But can they deliver 55 gallon drums of lube in an emergency?
Read the reviews!
247 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:38:32am |
I can’t get past the godwin. but that is just me.
248 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:41:40am |
249 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:42:48am |
250 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:43:53am |
re: #245 Feline Fearless Leader
A little bit tired. Had a good week off and used the time to visit my brother up in western NY. Got 6” of snow Tuesday night and thus got a “White Thanksgiving”. Pretty quiet time since we were not hosting a dinner and had invites to two dinners for Thursday. We took a “wandering soul”* with us to the dinners and then to a bar to watch the late football game. Rest of the week was spent playing cards, home cooking, and helping sort through my sister-in-law’s possessions for donation or otherwise disposing of. Place was quiet since my niece did Thanksgiving with friends from school rather than traveling for the limited holiday. So it was just my brother and myself in the house.
Then six hour drive back yesterday. Cold and gray out as well, which is simply a little bit depressing.
* - The “wandering soul” was a geology grad my brother knew who was working in Ithaca and didn’t have time/ability to visit family in Long Island. So we was invited to come up and go to dinners with us since it was a much shorter drive.
Sounds sort of like my Thanksgiving. We had the big dinner on Sunday this year because our extended family has so many obligations to appear at one family gathering or another that the big gatherings of old at my grandmother’s apartment simply aren’t feasible anymore. Got to see most of my cousins and their new kids, enjoy some good food, and enjoy their company for at least a little while. The rest of the week was mostly just a study in absolute laziness, as there’s never really much to do in a small rural town. Slept late, watching TV or surfed the net, and marveled at how I’m related and yet so distant from the bunch of rednecks I call kin.
251 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:48:36am |
WAY KEWL nature photography.
252 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:49:17am |
re: #248 FemNaziBitch
TPP Exposed: WikiLeaks Publishes Secret Trade Text to Rewrite Copyright Laws, Limit Internet Freedom
Yeah, because I really believe stuff put out by that barf-bag Assange.
253 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:51:11am |
re: #250 Targetpractice
The snow helped with the entertainment. My brother was going x-country skiing around the woods trail every morning. And we drove over and took a walk along the trail along one of the undeveloped small Finger Lakes*.
Also drove up to a Rochester suburb on Saturday to visit the annual Crafts Guild Fair. Very nice pottery, wood craft, cloth, and books. Bought a few handmade wooden toys for a friend’s daughter and also a very nice hand woven scarf made from bamboo. My response to Black Friday. :p
* - Hemlock and Canadice lakes are not developed. The former is part of the Rochester city water supply, so limited boating as well. We avoided one of the trails because hunters were out that way and went south along the lake via a trail in the woods and came back north along the lake shore with the wind at our backs. Snowy and a bit wet, but I was wearing wool socks inside my Wellington boots. :)
edit: Will get a photo of the scarf and post it tonight since I think sufficient Lizards have interest in handmade crafts.
254 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:52:42am |
re: #247 FemNaziBitch
I can’t get past the godwin. but that is just me.
He was reading from a Howard Zinn speech and Howard Zinn was a dishonest historian who routinely twisted or ignored facts to suit his own conclusions. He wasn’t as bad as David Barton, but he was more than bad enough to warrant opprobrium.
255 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:55:31am |
One last thing from Iran, since I think this marine camo scheme is kinda cool:
256 | Dr. Matt Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:56:21am |
re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth
Scott High on lockdown on reports of suspect with gun in school
Read more at toledoblade.com
And this is why schools must be gun-free zones because you have no clue whether such a person walking around with a firearm is exercising their 2A “Rights” or hell bent on a shooting spree.
257 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:59:55am |
re: #138 piratedan
yeah, but when I link over to WaPo, he’s not listed on their roster (neither was Rubin, hence why I excluded her), doesn’t mean that they don’t print him or run his syndicated column when it suits them. What I am trying to indicate here DF is there there are a boatload of conservative voices in the MSM and very few liberal ones. As a case in point, we’re just as bad about not posting the good ideas being written on Liberal sites and blogs as we are being perpetually outraged about the latest daily transgression against common sense and general asshattery that appears from the Conservative side of the aisle. As a rule, about the only Conservative who has apparently not succumbed to embracing complete feudalism is Larison.
Larison is a member of the League of the South. Doesn’t get much more feudal than that.
258 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:06:01am |
I really should include an excerpt for those who don’t click through. These are Larison’s own words, from the link above:
[…]
It is to be expected that the awful Max Boot and his ilk would find fault with an organisation dedicated to the preservation and restoration of American constitutional traditions, traditional Christianity and especially Southern culture and identity by all honourable means. All of these things are hateful to those who want to obliterate particular loyalties, federalism, political and cultural diversity (the historical sort that arises everywhere naturally, not the artificial, ‘multiculti’, coerced sort championed by neocon and liberal) and subjugate all men to a stale and fatal creed for homogenous slaves serving faceless masters in their anti-personal and anti-religious world of abstractions and social engineering.
Let me take this opportunity to say a few words about the League of the South, a group to which I am proud to belong for these past ten years. This group of ladies and gentlemen, for whom such terms still have their traditional meaning, endeavours to preserve their Southern, Christian cultural, religious and political heritage from the ravages of the same freethinking, Yankee spirit and empire that has gone on to devastate so many other societies, including that of those northern states gulled into the cause of Unionism.
[…]
259 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:07:56am |
re: #258 wrenchwench
I really should include an excerpt for those who don’t click through. These are Larison’s own words, from the link above:
To which I reply:
260 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:09:47am |
261 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:10:15am |
262 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:13:04am |
The tree is up, decorated and the house xmas-fied.
How did you spend yesterday?
264 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:14:16am |
re: #262 FemNaziBitch
The tree is up, decorated and the house xmas-fied.
How did you spend yesterday?
Stuck in the back of a car for 12 hours. Tree is today’s task…just as soon as I can work up the energy.
265 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:14:44am |
re: #262 FemNaziBitch
The tree is up, decorated and the house xmas-fied.
How did you spend yesterday?
I put up my parents’ new Christmas lawn ornaments.
266 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:14:49am |
re: #263 Dr. Matt
Hung over on the couch.
I win.
Yes you do.
I spent some time assembling, decorating and shrink wrapping gifts for hubby’s clients. Making big red velvet bows is fun, but once a year is enough.
267 | Varek Raith Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:15:18am |
4 Recent Tech Stories That Were Total B.S.
#2. No, Tesla Cars Aren’t Suddenly Bursting into Flames
So how does a Tesla catch fire? If ABC had bothered to ask the driver, he could have told them the unspectacular answer: He hit something. Yes, bad things tend to happen to cars when they run into shit at high speed — in fact, car fires happen 152,000 times a year. The difference is that this dude’s Tesla politely warned him to pull over and get out of the car before going up in flames. When was the last time your shitty Toyota did that?
268 | Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:15:59am |
”.. traditional Christianity and especially Southern culture and identity by all honourable means.”
Five best things about my state’s culture and identity, in descending order:
BBQ
Banana Pudding
Kudzu
Fire Ants
SEC Football
269 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:16:12am |
270 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:17:38am |
I really look forward to the day when we are too old and feeble to set-up the tree and go thru the bru-ha-ha.
I should have been born a Reform Jew.
271 | piratedan Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:20:04am |
re: #258 wrenchwench
I really should include an excerpt for those who don’t click through. These are Larison’s own words, from the link above:
and he’s the “moderate” amongst Conservative voices.
272 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:20:41am |
re: #268 Decatur Deb
”.. traditional Christianity and especially Southern culture and identity by all honourable means.”
Five best things about my state’s culture and identity, in descending order:
BBQ
Banana Pudding
Kudzu
Fire Ants
SEC Football
I usually can’t read the whole thing I linked to. Today, I just noticed there are 4 comments. 2 of them are from Larison. Here’s the second of his:
But what is his real gripe exactly? That instead of merely talking about the legitimacy of secession, I support a secessionist group? If I supported the Second Vermont Republic, would that be any different? Is the problem that they are secessionists, or is it that they sympathise with the Confederacy? Or is it both? Which of these is the “noxious” view that “respectable” people are supposed to find unacceptable?
No mention of BBQ whatsoever. I remain appalled. Not even banana pudding.
273 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:22:09am |
Drones aren’t just for good guys:
Crooks use drug-dropping drone to smuggle contraband over prison walls (VIDEO)
Authorities apprehended a couple of clever crooks who tried smuggling contraband with a drone over a wall into Georgia’s Calhoun State prison last week.
The band of Georgians definitely deserve an “A” for effort, but their plans were thwarted by one watchful lieutenant who spotted the drug-dropping drone flying over the prison gates, WALB News reports.
“It is a surprise — I’ve never seen a helicopter,” Sheriff Josh Hilton said. “They were in the woods flying it. They had binoculars and stuff evidently so they could watch it.”
Here’s the video:
274 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:22:18am |
275 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:23:39am |
re: #272 wrenchwench
I usually can’t read the whole thing I linked to. Today, I just noticed there are 4 comments. 2 of them are from Larison. Here’s the second of his:
No mention of BBQ whatsoever. I remain appalled. Not even banana pudding.
I came understand all of those except kudzu, which i’ve heard can be quite the pest. Fire ants at least eat boll weevils.
276 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:24:48am |
277 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:24:57am |
re: #271 piratedan
and he’s the “moderate” amongst Conservative voices.
I seem to see a ton of liberals who call him that. He’s your basic dudebro, anti-interventionist libertarian type, plus that rabid Catholicism of Pat Buchanan and his ilk.
I think his appeal to liberals is the anti-interventionism, as it is with Ron and Rand Paul, although they also have the pot thing going for them.
I haven’t noticed conservatives calling Larison anything. I only notice the company he keeps over at TAC.
278 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:25:26am |
I have to get on with my day.
It’s Monday, I’m feeling it in every bone and sinew. I feel a migraine coming on.
Can we just skip ahead to 2014?
279 | Varek Raith Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:29:52am |
re: #278 FemNaziBitch
I have to get on with my day.
It’s Monday, I’m feeling it in every bone and sinew. I feel a migraine coming on.
Can we just skip ahead to 2014?
I propose we ban all Mondays.
Is there a second?
280 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:31:14am |
re: #277 wrenchwench
I seem to see a ton of liberals who call him that. He’s your basic dudebro, anti-interventionist libertarian type, plus that rabid Catholicism of Pat Buchanan and his ilk.
I think his appeal to liberals is the anti-interventionism, as it is with Ron and Rand Paul, although they also have the pot thing going for them.
I haven’t noticed conservatives calling Larison anything. I only notice the company he keeps over at TAC.
I’m a conservative and I posted that video to call him a rebel curr.
281 | Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:31:19am |
re: #275 Dark_Falcon
I came understand all of those except kudzu, which i’ve heard can be quite the pest. Fire ants at least eat boll weevils.
The Boll Weevil is our friend. A nearby town has a monument to it in the town square.
283 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:31:27am |
284 | Varek Raith Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:32:07am |
285 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:33:12am |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
The Boll Weevil is our friend. A nearby town has a monument to it in the town square.
Your people have weird ways.
This goes with the BBQ and banana pudding:
More beautiful fall colors from America's public lands. Here's Mountain Longleaf Refuge in #Alabama. #autumn pic.twitter.com/cUGjZuTmyM— US Dept of Interior (@Interior) December 2, 2013
286 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:34:26am |
287 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:36:08am |
288 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:38:54am |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
The Boll Weevil is our friend. A nearby town has a monument to it in the town square.
Was a friend once, given the later efforts to eradicate the damn beetle. its actually been removed from Alabama entirely now.
289 | Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:40:08am |
re: #288 Dark_Falcon
Was a friend once, given the later efforts to eradicate the damn beetle. its actually been removed from Alabama entirely now.
You should see how we treat our enemies.
290 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:50:17am |
I guess Obama heard this caused consternation among the conservatives. He gave it an ‘ICYMI’:
ICYMI: MT @fast4families: @BarackObama & the fasters: “It's not a matter of if, but when” #Fast4Families pic.twitter.com/pGwFUmU9xb— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) December 2, 2013
291 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:54:53am |
re: #290 wrenchwench
I guess Obama heard this caused consternation among the conservatives. He gave it an ‘ICYMI’:
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And ‘when’ will need to be later. This issue won’t move forward legislatively until the budget is thrashed out. The president could help it along, though, if he agreed to a ‘hard’ border security trigger, one requiring quantified levels of improvement and not just a determination.
292 | GeneJockey Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:54:55am |
O whatever the T is, but on the way to work, I was listening to the radio. KGO has one remaining talk show left, Ronn Owens. Used to be liberal, became a moderate post-9/11. Now?
This morning the topic was the fast food workers upcoming strike for higher wages. He thinks it’s a bad idea. He worked for minimum wage back in college, you see, and he knows it’s just a stepping stone to higher paying jobs, not an endpoint. Someone called in and said, “Most economists recognize that minimum wage laws increase unemployment”, which went unchallenged.
By that measure, the 13th Fucking Amendment increased unemployment.
What do you call someone who routinely spouts Conservative talking points? I think it’s a measure of the penetrance of Right wing ‘thought’ that so many people hear this kind of thing, and say, “Yeah, he’s right!”
293 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:56:47am |
re: #291 Dark_Falcon
and ‘when’ will need to be later. This issue won’t move forward legislatively until the budget is thrashed out. The president could help it along, though, if he agreed to a ‘hard’ border security trigger, one requiring quantified levels of improvement and not just a determination.
And if wishes were horses…
294 | Decatur Deb Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:57:48am |
re: #290 wrenchwench
I guess Obama heard this caused consternation among the conservatives. He gave it an ‘ICYMI’:
[Embedded content]
Troll-in-Chief. He’s just screwin’ wit em now.
(Are they under medical surveillance? That looks very much like an Army DEPMED inflatable, the successor to a MASH.)
295 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:59:40am |
re: #279 Varek Raith
I propose we ban all Mondays.
Is there a second?
Youtube Video
I don’t like Mondays!
296 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:59:41am |
re: #294 Decatur Deb
Troll-in-Chief. He’s just screwin’ wit em now.
(Are they under medical surveillance? That looks very much like an Army DEPMED inflatable, the successor to a MASH.)
Some large civilian tents are variations on models originally made for the military.
297 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:00:08am |
re: #291 Dark_Falcon
and ‘when’ will need to be later. This issue won’t move forward legislatively until the budget is thrashed out. The president could help it along, though, if he agreed to a ‘hard’ border security trigger, one requiring quantified levels of improvement and not just a determination.
Border security should have absolutely nothing to do with immigration reform. It’s a distraction. Everything that was going to be required in terms of border security in the attempted immigration reform of 2007 has been done. Why is that not enough? There are so many BP agents around now, they have to harass citizens to stay busy. Come take a look.
298 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:00:55am |
re: #295 Dancing along the light of day
[Embedded content]
I don’t like Mondays!
299 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:03:15am |
re: #297 wrenchwench
Border security should have absolutely nothing to do with immigration reform. It’s a distraction. Everything that was going to be required in terms of border security in the attempted immigration reform of 2007 >has been done. Why is that not enough? There are so many BP agents around now, they have to harass citizens to stay busy. Come take a look.
Shhhh, that would require Dark to actually *think* about this and not just base his beliefs on ideological principles that contradict each other because RAH TEAM.
It’s a snarky Monday morning, Lizards.
300 | GeneJockey Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:03:44am |
re: #299 dr. klys
Shhhh, that would require Dark to actually *think* about this and not just base his beliefs on ideological principles that contradict each other because RAH TEAM.
It’s a snarky Monday morning, Lizards.
“I’d rather not answer that question just yet.”
301 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:06:15am |
302 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:06:20am |
re: #297 wrenchwench
Border security should have absolutely nothing to do with immigration reform. It’s a distraction. Everything that was going to be required in terms of border security in the attempted immigration reform of 2007 >has been done. Why is that not enough? There are so many BP agents around now, they have to harass citizens to stay busy. Come take a look.
It is a distraction, but one that they’ve been able to successful sell to the low-information voter demographic. “If we don’t secure the border, a bunch more of them Mexicans will rush in to get in on the amnesty!!” Meanwhile, a white European man who overstays his visa deserves a second chance because “the bureaucracy is to blame!”
303 | GeneJockey Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:08:14am |
re: #297 wrenchwench
Border security should have absolutely nothing to do with immigration reform. It’s a distraction. Everything that was going to be required in terms of border security in the attempted immigration reform of 2007 >has been done. Why is that not enough? There are so many BP agents around now, they have to harass citizens to stay busy. Come take a look.
The problem that most Conservatives have with the security of the border is the person ultimately in charge of it. Because of him, there exists no other possibility beyond there being no fence, and no guards, and all the ICE agents out in the desert putting up signs showing the easiest routes in, stocking food and water stations, and handing new arrivals applications for TANF, SNAP, WIC, and Medicaid as they cross the border.
Increased deportations? They don’t believe it.
Decreased immigration? They don’t believe it.
Increased enforcement of the laws against hiring undocumented workers? They don’t believe it.
The President is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist Bent On Destroying America, so only the worst case scenario is possible.
304 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:09:15am |
re: #303 GeneJockey
The problem that most Conservatives have with the security of the border is the person ultimately in charge of it. Because of him, there exists no other possibility beyond there being no fence, and no guards, and all the ICE agents out in the desert putting up signs showing the easiest routes in, stocking food and water stations, and handing new arrivals applications for TANF, SNAP, WIC, and Medicaid as they cross the border.
Increased deportations? They don’t believe it.
Decreased immigration? They don’t believe it.
Increased enforcement of the laws against hiring undocumented workers? They don’t believe it.
The President is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist Bent On Destroying America, so only the worst case scenario is possible.
Oh, there’s really two options. They either refuse to believe it, or shrug and go “It’s not enough!”
305 | The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:09:40am |
re: #302 Targetpractice
It is a distraction, but one that they’ve been able to successful sell to the low-information voter demographic. “If we don’t secure the border, a bunch more of them Mexicans will rush in to get in on the amnesty!!” Meanwhile, a white European man who overstays his visa deserves a second chance because “the bureaucracy is to blame!”
Expanded border security is also the next paradigm of wingnut welfare.
306 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:10:15am |
re: #303 GeneJockey
The problem that most Conservatives have with the security of the border is the person ultimately in charge of it. Because of him, there exists no other possibility beyond there being no fence, and no guards, and all the ICE agents out in the desert putting up signs showing the easiest routes in, stocking food and water stations, and handing new arrivals applications for TANF, SNAP, WIC, and Medicaid as they cross the border.
Increased deportations? They don’t believe it.
Decreased immigration? They don’t believe it.
Increased enforcement of the laws against hiring undocumented workers? They don’t believe it.
The President is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist Bent On Destroying America, so only the worst case scenario is possible.
Well, you forgot the part where the people coming in are …brown people. And how we already have enough of those people.
307 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:12:01am |
re: #297 wrenchwench
Border security should have absolutely nothing to do with immigration reform. It’s a distraction. Everything that was going to be required in terms of border security in the attempted immigration reform of 2007 >has been done. Why is that not enough? There are so many BP agents around now, they have to harass citizens to stay busy. Come take a look.
Because Republicans need border security measures as political cover, is a large part of why. This is not only due to anti-immigration sentiments, but also due to the feeling among Republicans of the Far West and El Norte regions that they got tricked back in 1986. Thus they want assurances that illegal immigration has been throttled back before a pathway to citizenship is opened.
308 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:14:15am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
Because Republicans need border security measures as political cover, is a large part of why. This is not only due to anti-immigration sentiments, but also due to the feeling among Republicans of the Far West and El Norte regions that they got tricked back in 1986. Thus they want assurances that illegal immigration has been throttled back before a pathway to citizenship is opened.
“Political cover” from whom? Their own fucking base, who’s absolutely convinced that there’s millions of Mexicans waiting to take their job, marry their daughter, steal their valuables, and amassing an army for “Reconquista”?
309 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:15:18am |
re: #308 Targetpractice
“Political cover” from whom? Their own fucking base, who’s absolutely convinced that there’s millions of Mexicans waiting to take their job, marry their daughter, steal their valuables, and amassing an army for “Reconquista”?
But don’t forget, the country is really run by the liberal elites on the coast, who are totally out of touch with Real AmericaTM.
//////
310 | Lidane Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:17:06am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
Because Republicans need border security measures as political cover, is a large part of why. This is not only due to anti-immigration sentiments, but also due to the feeling among Republicans of the Far West and El Norte regions that they got tricked back in 1986. Thus they want assurances that illegal immigration has been throttled back before a pathway to citizenship is opened.
Then those Republicans are fucking morons. Our immigration system is already throttled. Ask any immigration lawyer. Even people here legally have to go through ridiculous hoops and can easily fall through the cracks of the system despite doing everything right.
Just because the idiot base of the GOP wants to keep out all the brown people doesn’t mean that they can stall immigration reform. Something needs to give.
311 | The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:18:29am |
re: #306 dr. klys
Well, you forgot the part where the people coming in are …brown people. And how we already have enough of those people.
Except for the industries that rely on undocumented immigrant labor to produce stuff super cheap.
And anybody that wants some cheap landscaping. Or hanging sheetrock. Or…
312 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:22:54am |
re: #310 Lidane
Then those Republicans are fucking morons. Our immigration system is already throttled. Ask any immigration lawyer. Even people here legally have to go through ridiculous hoops and can easily fall through the cracks of the system despite doing everything right.
Just because the idiot base of the GOP wants to keep out all the brown people doesn’t mean that they can stall immigration reform. Something needs to give.
Something is giving, it’s called demographics. In a generation, the GOP will be an isolated, regional party. Once Texas goes, that’s it, you’ll never see another Southern Republican voted to the White House again. The fuckheads sitting on Capital Hill today whining about the dangers of not “securing the border” will be in history textbooks next to the likes of Bull Connor and George Wallace.
313 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:24:43am |
re: #308 Targetpractice
“Political cover” from whom? Their own fucking base, who’s absolutely convinced that there’s millions of Mexicans waiting to take their job, marry their daughter, steal their valuables, and amassing an army for “Reconquista”?
From base voters who don’t really understand the situation.
314 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:25:45am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
Because Republicans need border security measures as political cover, is a large part of why. This is not only due to anti-immigration sentiments, but also due to the feeling among Republicans of the Far West and El Norte regions that they got tricked back in 1986. Thus they want assurances that illegal immigration has been throttled back before a pathway to citizenship is opened.
Republicans’ ‘political cover’ is fatal to humans.
I could not be more disgusted with their screwing around about immigration.
315 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:26:18am |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
From base voters who don’t really understand the situation.
So to save themselves from their own base, they must further push away minority voters.
Sure, that won’t come back to bite them in the ass.///
316 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:26:57am |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
From base voters who don’t really understand the situation.
So how can you type things like that and yet say that you agreed with the Hanson article? Does the cognitive dissonance not make you stop and think for just a minute at all?
317 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:28:02am |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
From base voters who don’t really understand the situation.
They’ve been deliberately misled by fellow Republicans who understand the situation perfectly well, and have been gaming it for their own financial and political advantage for decades.
318 | Schadenboner Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:29:02am |
re: #312 Targetpractice
Something >is giving, it’s called demographics. In a generation, the GOP will be an isolated, regional party. Once Texas goes, that’s it, you’ll never see another Southern Republican voted to the White House again. The fuckheads sitting on Capital Hill today whining about the dangers of not “securing the border” will be in history textbooks next to the likes of Bull Connor and George Wallace.
2023 can’t come soon enough (2020 is a presidential election which means it should be a good year for Blue and a redistricting election, the legislatures elected will redraw borders starting for the November 2022).
Demographic irrelevance beckons, GOP.
319 | wrenchwench Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:30:32am |
THIS THIS THIS http://t.co/5n6LXxn2r7 Comedian @aamer_rahman explains reverse racism. ht @thehairpin— MacKenzie Fegan (@mackenzief) December 2, 2013
Here’s the video:
320 | blueraven Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:30:53am |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
From base voters who don’t really understand the situation.
Isn’t it their responsibility to do the right thing, educate and convince their base instead of pandering to and exploiting irrational fears?
321 | Charles Johnson Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:34:13am |
.@ggreenwald links to extreme right wing site to smear President Obama - his liberal followers don't even blink: http://t.co/G7TSbkhGC7— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2013
322 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:34:51am |
323 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:35:13am |
re: #320 blueraven
Isn’t it their responsibility to do the right thing, educate and convince their base instead of pandering to and exploiting irrational fears?
The “right thing” to them is maintaining their reelectability and keeping their main political donors happy.
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324 | Schadenboner Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:36:19am |
re: #320 blueraven
Isn’t it their responsibility to do the right thing, educate and convince their base instead of pandering to and exploiting irrational fears?
Even if they had such a responsibility (which may be arguable) what do you expect a median GOP office-holder to do, having watched everyone who has tried to “educate and convince their base instead of pandering to and exploiting irrational fears” get their ass stamped “RINO” and get kicked out?
At some point we have to consider the politicians as rational actors themselves is all I’m saying.
325 | Interesting Times Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:36:24am |
re: #323 Feline Fearless Leader
The “right thing” to them is maintaining their reelectability and keeping their main political donors happy.
I’ve removed your sarc tags because they’re not necessary when describing an obvious fact.
326 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:36:25am |
re: #315 Targetpractice
So to save themselves from their own base, they must further push away minority voters.
Sure, that won’t come back to bite them in the ass.///
Republicans are going to get bitten on immigration no matter what they do.
Accepting comprehensive reform with border security enhancements is the least-worst option available. all the others either shatter the party or have even worse Latino blowback. Doubling down on white voters is not a viable long-term tactic. and in the wake of 2012, it is no longer a viable short-term tactic in presidential elections.
327 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:38:12am |
re: #320 blueraven
Isn’t it their responsibility to do the right thing, educate and convince their base instead of pandering to and exploiting irrational fears?
That’s not how members of Congress generally operate.
328 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:39:57am |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
Republicans are going to get bitten on immigration no matter what they do.
Accepting comprehensive reform with border security enhancements is the least-worst option available. all the others either shatter the party or have even worse Latino blowback. Doubling down on white voters is not a viable long-term tactic. and in the wake of 2012, it is no longer a viable short-term tactic in presidential elections.
And they have no one to blame for it but themselves. Really. They have painted themselves into this corner. They have pandered to the racism that is driving this. Why should that be rewarded?
330 | klys Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:41:00am |
re: #329 dr. klys
>Test. Test.
Hey Charles, as you can see, there’s an extra greater-than sign added at the end of the opening strong when quoting a bold string. Showed up a few weeks ago? Doesn’t seem to happen on the italics.
331 | Political Atheist Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:41:31am |
Breaking SCOTUS news, and the news is good
Supreme Court Rejects Challenge to Obamacare by Christian University
332 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:41:44am |
re: #326 Dark_Falcon
>Republicans are going to get bitten on immigration no matter what they do.
Accepting comprehensive reform with border security enhancements is the least-worst option available. all the others either shatter the party or have even worse Latino blowback. Doubling down on white voters is not a viable long-term tactic. and in the wake of 2012, it is no longer a viable short-term tactic in presidential elections.
What you fail to take into mind is that no amount of reassurance on their part that the border will be secured will save them from accusations of signing off on “amnesty” and “selling out.” You suggested they might be able to smooth it over if the President agreed to “hard” triggers, but how would the word of a man that their base hates with the passion burning hotter than the fire of a thousand suns win them over?
The GOP’s gonna have to bite the bullet and accept what’s on the table, there is no “better” deal where they get to keep the base happy and look good to minorities.
333 | darthstar Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:51:02am |
re: #321 Charles Johnson
Funny replies to Greenwald
@armandodkos It was, admittedly, creepy and kooky. Mysterious and spooky.— David Waldman (@KagroX) December 2, 2013
334 | Schadenboner Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:55:22am |
re: #332 Targetpractice
What you fail to take into mind is that no amount of reassurance on their part that the border will be secured will save them from accusations of signing off on “amnesty” and “selling out.” You suggested they might be able to smooth it over if the President agreed to “hard” triggers, but how would the word of a man that their base hates with the passion burning hotter than the fire of a thousand suns win them over?
The GOP’s gonna have to bite the bullet and accept what’s on the table, there is no “better” deal where they get to keep the base happy >and look good to minorities.
I don’t disagree with this analysis. In fact, for all we know, the immigration lunacy we see *is* the GOP biting the bullet. They’re all aficionados of the Alamo and the Lost Cause and so forth. Show them a hill and they’ll rush to make a last stand atop it.
335 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:56:14am |
re: #328 dr. klys
And they have no one to blame for it but themselves. Really. They have painted themselves into this corner. They have pandered to the racism that is driving this. Why should that be rewarded?
They can’t spend years arguing that anything short of removing every single “illegal” from US soil and turning the US/Mexico border into the Berlin Wall constitutes “amnesty” and then be shocked when their base holds them to it.
336 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:57:57am |
re: #333 darthstar
Funny replies to Greenwald
[Embedded content]
@KagroX @armandodkos Glenn Greenwald is altogether ookey.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) December 2, 2013
337 | blueraven Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:59:02am |
re: #327 Dark_Falcon
That’s not how members of Congress generally operate.
Short term gain, long term disaster. Carry on GOP.
338 | Lidane Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:59:17am |
re: #331 Political Atheist
Breaking SCOTUS news, and the news is good
Supreme Court Rejects Challenge to Obamacare by Christian University
Mat Staver says Liberty Counsel spent over 25,000 hours on its Obamacare lawsuit. Today, SCOTUS dismissed it: http://t.co/NjPlJEOYKI— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) December 2, 2013
339 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 2, 2013 11:00:20am |
re: #337 blueraven
Short term gain, long term disaster. Carry on GOP.
Members of the House are elected for short terms.
340 | Schadenboner Mon, Dec 2, 2013 11:02:50am |
re: #335 Targetpractice
They can’t spend years arguing that anything short of removing every single “illegal” from US soil and turning the US/Mexico border into the Berlin Wall constitutes “amnesty” and then be shocked when their base holds them to it.
Which is more scary: the possibility that the GOP believes the rhetoric they mouth to their followers or that they’re cynically exploiting such beliefs in their followers?
Which is worse: sangfroid or bug-fuck-crazy?
341 | blueraven Mon, Dec 2, 2013 11:03:39am |
re: #339 Dark_Falcon
Members of the House are elected for short terms.
I guess the individual is more important than the republican party as a whole? Sometimes you have to bite the bullet.
342 | Targetpractice Mon, Dec 2, 2013 11:04:19am |
re: #340 Schadenboner
Which is more scary: the possibility that the GOP believes the rhetoric they mouth to their followers or that they’re cynically exploiting such beliefs in their followers?
Which is worse: sangfroid or bug-fuck-crazy?
Yes.
343 | Joanne Mon, Dec 2, 2013 11:35:50am |
re: #221 Targetpractice
The GOP’s worst nightmare is slowly dawning, but won’t really get kicked into overdrive until next February, when millions go to work and find that their employer health benefits didn’t disappear, the economy didn’t collapse, and all the provisions of the law like wellness check-ups really begin to kick in.
Like free flu and shingles shots, both of which I took advantage of. Flu shot is usually about $35 and the shingles shot was close to $250. Nice benefit of Obamacare.