Nebraska Court Ruling Deals Serious Blow to Keystone XL Pipeline

The state cannot use eminent domain to seize land
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Nebraska Judge Stephanie F. Stacy has struck down a law that allowed the state government to approve the route of the Keystone XL pipeline and seize property for it through eminent domain, because it violates the state’s constitution: Nebraska Judge Strikes Down Legislature’s Move Allowing Keystone XL Route.

Stacy concluded that the state legislature could not take the routing power away from its Public Service Commission and allow Heineman to make the decision. More than 200 miles of the proposed pipeline, which would carry as many as 830,000 barrels of heavy crude oil daily from Canada to refineries in the Gulf of Mexico, would run through Nebraska.

The judge’s decision to overturn LB 1161, enacted in the final hours of the state’s 2012 session, means “there is no approved route across Nebraska now,” said David A. Domina, the lawyer who represented the three landowners who filed the lawsuit. “This statute is the only statute we have out here that creates a procedure for getting a permit” for a pipeline, said Domina, who is running for U.S. Senate as a Democrat this fall.

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1 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:48:24pm

AND THAT’S FOR THE HOCKEY GAME!

Wait… what?

2 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:51:43pm

OT from downstairs. Maybe not a pipeline but a series of tubes:

Walker Used Illegal Communication System Says Chief Investigator

In the first John Doe investigation, the prosecutors were hot on Scott Walker’s trail.

The chief investigator of the Milwaukee County District Attorney’s Office, David Budde, testified on November 1, 2010, that Walker himself, as Milwaukee county executive, was illegally using the private communication system that his staff had set up.

Budde was asked under oath: “Did you find any e-mails written by the County Executive himself” on “personal laptops in the County Executive’s Office?”

3 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:56:37pm
4 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:57:10pm

Technical foible with this:

“The state cannot use eminent domain to seize land”

The state can, they just have to work through a normal approved public service commission process.

Stacy concluded that the state legislature could not take the routing power away from its Public Service Commission and allow Heineman to make the decision.

The Governor can’t approve the taking of land or the end run around that public service commission process is how I am reading this.

5 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:57:42pm

So how long before the conspiracy theories about how Obama and/or the DoJ “got” to this judge?

6 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 1:58:43pm

re: #4 Randall Gross

Technical foible with this:

“The state cannot use eminent domain to seize land”

The state can, they just have to work through a normal approved public service commission process.

The Governor can’t approve the taking of land or the end run around that public service commission process is how I am reading this.

The ruling blocks any and all action to approve the route, which includes seizing land through eminent domain.

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:00:42pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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my guess is too many Dorito crumbs collecting in his keyboard…

8 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:00:47pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Right, but it still allows that route to be approved through normal public service commission process, it struck down a law that allowed PSC or Heineman to approve.

The Nebraska law struck down Wednesday allowed TransCanada to seek approval of the project from the state’s elected five-member Public Service Commission or from Heineman. After approving the route, Heineman gave the pipeline company power of eminent domain to acquire land.

9 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:01:05pm

OK, now. This Guardian writer says he repeatedly saw someone remotely deleting text from OpenOffice as he was writing it.

And he took no action to investigate or prevent it? Just let it happen over and over? Does that sound reasonable to anyone?

If he was using OpenOffice, how about just turning off the Internet connection while he was writing?

This is setting off loud BS warning sirens, folks.

10 dog philosopher  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:01:27pm

brain explosion as fans of the pipeline are generally the same as the ones who are dead set against eminent domain seizures

11 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:01:37pm

re: #8 Randall Gross

Right, but it still allows that route to be approved through normal public service commission process, it struck down a law that allowed PSC or Heineman to approve.

Ah, I see your point.

12 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:02:56pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

OK, now. This Guardian writer says he repeatedly saw someone remotely deleting text from OpenOffice as he was writing it.

And he took no action to investigate or prevent it? Just let it happen over and over? Does that sound reasonable to anyone?

If he was using OpenOffice, how about just turning off the Internet connection while he was writing?

This is setting off loud BS warning sirens, folks.

That sounds to me more like either someone in his own office was dicking around with him, or he’s full of the proverbial.

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:04:35pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

One day last summer - a short while after Edward Snowden revealed himself as the source behind the momentous leak of classified intelligence - the Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger got in touch. Would I write a book on Snowden’s story and that of the journalists working with him? The answer, of course, was yes. At this point Snowden was still in Hong Kong. He was in hiding.

Rusbridger is already talking about a Snowden book when Snowden is STILL in Hong Kong?

Lots more bullshit stink…

14 klys  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:05:08pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

OK, now. This Guardian writer says he repeatedly saw someone remotely deleting text from OpenOffice as he was writing it.

And he took no action to investigate or prevent it? Just let it happen over and over? Does that sound reasonable to anyone?

If he was using OpenOffice, how about just turning off the Internet connection while he was writing?

This is setting off loud BS warning sirens, folks.

He also didn’t try things like: open another program and see if the same thing happened. Hit the delete key multiple times to see if it was stuck. You know, any of the common sense measures.

15 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:05:19pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ah, I see your point.

Yep, it puts it in a different light too, because you can see that this is the tale of yet another conservative legislature & governor end running prior laws and process.

16 Randall Gross  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:06:15pm

re: #14 klys

Stuck delete key was the first thing I thought of.

17 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:07:05pm

re: #10 dog philosopher

brain explosion as fans of the pipeline are generally the same as the ones who are dead set against eminent domain seizures

The pipeline is opposed by environmentalists, so of course the wingnuts are willing to make excuses for why seizing people’s property to build it is a-okay. In their minds, if you’ve not sold property that’s been in your family for generations by now, then you’re some enviro-nut who’s holding up progress and the state has a right to take that property for the good of “Real ‘Muricans” or some shit.

18 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:07:59pm

Or a slow-running buffer. In just about any word processor you can start getting ahead of yourself if things start running slow enough. Then things start looking wonky as things happen that you are not actually doing. Also real easy to do if you’re messing with macros or anything that can or has recorded multiple key presses.

19 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:08:26pm
20 dog philosopher  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:09:35pm

delete

i vaguely recall that unix allows people on other terminals to screw around with what you are typing

but that was back in the text terminal mode only days…

21 dog philosopher  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:10:48pm

re: #18 Feline Fearless Leader

Or a slow-running buffer. In just about any word processor you can start getting ahead of yourself if things start running slow enough. Then things start looking wonky as things happen that you are not actually doing. Also real easy to do if you’re messing with macros or anything that can or has recorded multiple key presses.

my word processor is stuck on purée

22 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:11:26pm

This pipe is a poster child for everything we hate about fossil fuels. Thing is that oil will be mined. It will be moved, it will be used. We know this right?

The draft Supplemental EIS concludes that approval or denial of the proposed Project is unlikely to have a substantial impact on the rate of development in the oil sands,” it says, “or on the amount of heavy crude oil refined in the Gulf Coast area.”

So what is the safest way to move the oil? Pipe? Train? Ship?


Not easy to discover.

What’s The Safest Way To Transport Oil? US Transportation And State Departments Won’t Say

Train vs. pipeline: What’s the safest way to transport oil?
The public debate about the trade-offs between rail and pipeline transportation is relatively new, Johnston writes, but most evidence thus far has found that pipelines are safer but have a higher leak-rate than rail.

The environmental impact of trains must be higher than a pipeline. Fuel burned by the trains, accidents, building and maintaining track and associated hardware.

Thing is the Keystone pipeline is dominated by politics. politics that apparently prevent a fair assessment of risks.

23 b.d.  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:12:48pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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There was no driver in the car….

24 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:13:23pm
I began to leave notes for my secret reader. I tried to be polite, but irritation crept in. Once I wrote: “Good morning. I don’t mind you reading my manuscript - you’re doing so already - but I’d be grateful if you don’t delete it. Thank you.” There was no reply.

Youtube Video

Also, too:

Youtube Video

25 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:15:09pm
26 b.d.  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:15:10pm

THE DELETES ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!!!

27 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:17:30pm
28 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:18:14pm

OT Drive-by for our Canadian lizards, heh:

29 Gus  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:18:17pm
30 b.d.  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:19:34pm

THE NSA CHANGED SOME OF MY WORDS SO THEY CAME OUT SPELLED INCORRECTLY

31 klys  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:20:19pm

re: #22 Political Atheist

This pipe is a poster child for everything we hate about fossil fuels. Thing is that oil will be mined. It will be moved, it will be used. We know this right?

So what is the safest way to move the oil? Pipe? Train? Ship?

Not easy to discover.

The environmental impact of trains must be higher than a pipeline. Fuel burned by the trains, accidents, building and maintaining track and associated hardware.

Thing is the Keystone pipeline is dominated by politics. politics that apparently prevent a fair assessment of risks.

Well, looking at those articles, the first question that stands out is what criteria are they using to define “safer”? Fewer accidents resulting in loss of life? What about the impact and potential size of spills associated with a leak in the pipe versus a derailment? Given the sensitivity of some of the areas Keystone is being proposed over (aquifers come to mind…), although it might be “safer” the potential public health consequences could end up being much greater, if a spill resulted in a contaminated aquifer.

Questions like that make it clear that the proposed route of the pipeline is one of the factors that matters a great deal when discussing the risks involved.

32 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:20:46pm

re: #26 b.d.

The End is very fcking nigh.

33 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:21:54pm
A month later the mysterious reader - him, her, they? - abruptly disappeared.

Yesterday upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn’t there.
He wasn’t there again today.
Gee I wish he’d go away.

34 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:22:46pm

re: #32 Bulworth

The End is very fcking nigh.

Image: tumblr_m4joy4vyXp1rvkdm4o1_500.jpg

35 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:23:50pm

re: #34 Kragar

Yes! My favorite.

36 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:23:55pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

Yesterday upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn’t there.
He wasn’t there again today.
Gee I wish he’d go away.

Wait, this was supposedly going on for a month?

BULLSHIT!

37 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:24:25pm

re: #35 Bulworth

Yes! My favorite.

I still love the first movie.

I refuse to admit the second movie happened.

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:25:11pm

This is one serious hook echo on this Doppler…

39 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:25:18pm

re: #36 Kragar

Wait, this was supposedly going on for a month?

BULLSHIT!

There have been at least 4 explanations in this thread that are far more plausible than THE NSA ATE MY HOMEWORK!!! I think “bullshit” is a pretty safe call at this point.

40 Gus  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:26:50pm

re: #39 thedopefishlives

There have been at least 4 explanations in this thread that are far more plausible than THE NSA ATE MY HOMEWORK!!! I think “bullshit” is a pretty safe call at this point.

OK. That one’s a winner.

41 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:27:07pm

*hits ctrl+Z instead of ctrl+S*

“THE NSA IS DELETING MY WORK!”

42 Lidane  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:28:06pm

re: #22 Political Atheist

It’s a poster child for the sheer stupidity of our political system. We gain absolutely no benefit from Keystone XL at all. All it does is ruin our environment so that Canadian oil can get to the coasts and be shipped overseas.

I’d rather see the US take the same initiative in investing in newer alternative fuels and green energy instead of going through this farce.

43 Gus  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:29:17pm
44 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:30:24pm
There were curious moments in New York, too, from where many Snowden stories were reported. Within hours of publication of the first one - which revealed that the NSA was mass-scooping data from the US telecoms company Verizon - diggers arrived outside the Guardian’s loft office in Broadway. It was a Wednesday evening. They dug up the pavement and replaced it. The same thing happened outside the Guardian’s Washington bureau, four blocks from the White House, and the Brooklyn home of US editor-in-chief Janine Gibson. Coincidence? Perhaps.

I was going to highlight the goofy part, but my dad always said if you bold everything, you highlight nothing.

45 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:30:52pm

re: #22 Political Atheist

They could build a refinery locally and provide product for the surrounding area while further reduce the need to transport petroleum.

46 Kragar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:31:33pm

EU might be turning back those chartered flights out of the Ukraine:

47 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:32:05pm

re: #41 Kragar

OK, but WHO do you suppose created that control-Z delete thing? Hmmmm?

48 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:32:25pm

Now we gotta migrate a bunch of comments….

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:32:56pm

re: #45 Amory Blaine

They could build a refinery locally and provide product for the surrounding area while further reduce the need to transport petroleum.

But then they would not be able to take advantage of the tax-free Foreign Trade Zone exporting all that lovely fuel overseas from Port Arthur…

50 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:37:02pm

re: #46 Kragar

EU might be turning back those chartered flights out of the Ukraine:

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Some very panicked oligarchs on those planes.

Harrods or bust!

51 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:38:14pm

re: #46 Kragar

EU might be turning back those chartered flights out of the Ukraine:

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LOLOLOL

52 Political Atheist  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:39:51pm

re: #45 Amory Blaine

That would be one big “local area” if I read correctly about how much the area will produce. It will take refineries, plural to process all that.

53 darthstar  Thu, Feb 20, 2014 2:40:01pm

The NSA is typing this post as I try to delete it. I don’t want to say wonderful things about how awesome the NSA is…delete! Backspace key no longer responding…mouse cursor heading for the post button…I must try to stop it before it’s too la

54 BusyMonster  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 8:00:09am

re: #20 dog philosopher

delete

i vaguely recall that unix allows people on other terminals to screw around with what you are typing

but that was back in the text terminal mode only days…

Oh, you can do that with about any computer OS. I’m the guy who makes that kind of thing happen, so yeah.

55 sunnygal  Fri, Feb 21, 2014 10:03:50am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

That happens to me a lot. I blame Windows 8.


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