1 | Randall Gross Apr 22, 2014 6:36:07am |
I uploaded a meta image for this and another page, but they aren’t showing up in the tweets.
2 | Charles Johnson Apr 22, 2014 10:15:20am |
Checking - I think I know what the problem was. But because Twitter caches these “cards,” it’s probably not going to refresh the image.
3 | Targetpractice Apr 22, 2014 10:23:18am |
Reposting this from downstairs, as it’s sauce to go with the goose:
Bundy has trumpeted his “ancestral rights” but a report on Monday placed doubt on his claims: http://t.co/XpCU1p6Yah #BundyRanch— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) April 22, 2014
5 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 10:31:02am |
Early on, anyone listening would know Bundy was full of it when he announced that the fate of his little herd would have an effect on beef prices.
Beef Industry Statistics
2013 Cattle inventory: 89.3 million (down 2% from 2012) (USDA NASS)
Economic impact: $44 billion in farm gate receipts (USDA NASS)
Number of beef cow operations: 729,000
Number of cattle & calf operations: 915,000
29.3 million beef cows (down 3%)
34.3 million head calf crop (2012)
beefusa.org
USDS Cattle & Beef / Statistics & Information:
ers.usda.gov
6 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 10:32:54am |
re: #5 jaunte
No measurable effect on the overall price of beef, but he’s unjustly enriching himself because he’s able to raise his herd cheaper than nearby ranchers who do pay the grazing fees. Because he’s doing the dine and dash with his herd.
Choose your adjective:
Moocher. Thief. Deadbeat.
They all apply.
7 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 10:33:43am |
re: #5 jaunte
Early on, anyone listening would know Bundy was full of it when he announced that the fate of his little herd would have an effect on beef prices.
USDS Cattle & Beef / Statistics & Information:
ers.usda.gov
Bundy’s operation would be a cow/calf one, because that’s all the arid grazing can support. Calves are sold off to fatten up elsewhere.
8 | calochortus Apr 22, 2014 10:34:10am |
re: #5 jaunte
I’ve also read claims that the bull that was killed in the round-up operation was incredible, irretievable genetic loss because it was specially bred to survive in desert conditions. Apparently unlike every other bull out there…
9 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 10:35:29am |
10 | Mike Lamb Apr 22, 2014 10:40:59am |
11 | Charles Johnson Apr 22, 2014 10:42:31am |
@JM_Ashby Macramé?— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 22, 2014
12 | Charles Johnson Apr 22, 2014 10:42:49am |
Happy Earth Day! Are the right wing blogs doing that fun humorous thing where they deliberately waste as much energy as possible?— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 22, 2014
14 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 10:46:40am |
15 | nines09 Apr 22, 2014 10:46:53am |
re: #12 Charles Johnson
Attempting to form cognitive thoughts burn huge amounts of Wing Nut Fuel and it usually ends up being all for naught. Or like pissing into the wind.
16 | nines09 Apr 22, 2014 10:48:15am |
re: #14 GeneJockey
Welfare Queens Driving Cattle With Cadillac’s.
17 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 10:48:18am |
18 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 10:48:33am |
19 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 10:51:00am |
In other ranching news, I have a customer with a cow/calf operation who made a deal with Whole Foods (I think it was) to make some changes to their operation so their calves could be sold to certain feeders to end up as organic beef. They had to get rid of coyote traps and plastic buckets, among other requirements. It was worth it for the increase in price per head over regular sales.
Buying organic can have good consequences.
20 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 10:53:46am |
21 | Feline Fearless Leader Apr 22, 2014 10:54:20am |
re: #4 Iwouldprefernotto
Is this Bundy related to Al Bundy?
It depends on what he did playing high school football.
22 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 10:55:59am |
re: #18 jaunte
Anthony Watts, humorist:
Hot air, Obama, hurr.
Cripes, Anthony Watts - the guy who claimed it was all bad siting of weather stations - then somebody actually tested the hypothesis and disproved it; the guy who said he’d accept whatever was found by Physicist Richard Muller, till Muller found that NOAA, NASA and CRU were right.
If you want the perfect example of unshakeable faith-based belief in the verifiably false, he’s your man.
23 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 10:58:19am |
re: #21 Feline Fearless Leader
They both squat. Al did in the supermarket. Cliven does with his herd.
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
As if decades of nonpayment aren’t enough to warrant action? The guy’s a thief.
24 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 22, 2014 11:00:08am |
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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Because we measure our wealth and prosperity in terms of how many resources we consume. It also serves to give us an objective overview of how happy we are.
25 | GunstarGreen Apr 22, 2014 11:02:44am |
re: #23 lawhawk
He’s not a thief because he’s a WASP, and we all know that only blah people can be thieves. So sayeth the American Right.
26 | Kragar Apr 22, 2014 11:03:04am |
Cliven Bundy is the classic Western Hero, if you define the classic Western Hero as a deadbeat loser welfare queen.— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) April 22, 2014
27 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 22, 2014 11:04:07am |
re: #23 lawhawk
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
As if decades of nonpayment aren’t enough to warrant action? The guy’s a thief.
Stop quoting laws and regulations and facts in general.
CB is a poster child, and if the movement plays its cards right, this situation will give them a few Martyrs to the Cause.
They all know that people do not like the federal gummint, especially when it shows up in some acronymic manifestation like BLM, ATF, CIA, NSA, IRS, EPA, etc…
That makes people very receptive to any sort of nonsense they can spout in connection with it.
They also know that a lot of guys with undersized genitalia are just itching to get out and prove their manhood by pointing guns at government officials doing their duty.
This will go on as long as these attitudes persist, and I see no sign of them going away soon.
28 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 11:04:46am |
German rapper-turned-jihadist reported dead in Syria
A German former rapper who joined jihadists fighting in Syria has been killed in a suicide bombing carried out by rival fighters, jihadist sources and a monitor said Tuesday.
Denis Mamadou Cuspert, who rapped under the name Deso Dogg but took on the name Abu Talha al-Almani in Syria, was reported to have been killed in a suicide attack Sunday in an eastern province.
29 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 11:07:18am |
re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Stop quoting laws and regulations and facts in general.
CB is a poster child, and if the movement plays its cards right, this situation will give them a few Martyrs to the Cause.
They all know that people do not like the federal gummint, especially when it shows up in some acronymic manifestation like BLM, ATF, CIA, NSA, IRS, EPA, etc…
That makes people very receptive to any sort of nonsense they can spout in connection with it.
They also know that a lot of guys with undersized genitalia are just itching to get out and prove their manhood by pointing guns at government officials doing their duty.
This will go on as long as these attitudes persist, and I see no sign of them going away soon.
You can’t change Cliven Bundy, but it is possible to peel off some of his support with facts, laws, and regulations. The attitudes don’t go away by themselves. They go away by persuasion.
30 | Lidane Apr 22, 2014 11:08:25am |
When Glenn Beck becomes the voice of reason pointing out that grazing fees are normal, legal, and not a big deal, that should be a sign to re-examine your life choices.
31 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 11:09:28am |
re: #23 lawhawk
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
I’m going to go put on a limb and speculate that this guy isn’t a lawyer.
32 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 11:09:30am |
33 | Lidane Apr 22, 2014 11:10:53am |
Baptist conference warns pastors: Gay people have the morality of biblical extortionists http://t.co/GO2jUCqg8n— The Raw Story (@RawStory) April 22, 2014
35 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 11:15:21am |
So many questions about this. First, who put Reagan's head on Robert Irvine? pic.twitter.com/hmmc7DMj2e
— Ian (@iboudreau) April 22, 2014
36 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:15:55am |
re: #30 Lidane
When Glenn Beck becomes the voice of reason pointing out that grazing fees are normal, legal, and not a big deal, that should be a sign to re-examine your life choices.
More like the voice of TREASON!!
37 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 11:16:31am |
re: #31 jaunte
They’ve found a case. A real old one, with a bit of dicta that they’ve latched on to as proof that all federal land ownership is unconstitutional/illegal.
This case was well before Nevada even was considered a state, and the state accepted federal governance over those lands as a condition of statehood. Nevada was admitted to the Union in 1864, during the Civil War. Conditions included federal lands, to wit, the Nevada Constitution:
Third. That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that lands belonging to citizens of the United States, residing without the said state, shall never be taxed higher than the land belonging to the residents thereof; and that no taxes shall be imposed by said state on lands or property therein belonging to, or which may hereafter be purchased by, the United States, unless otherwise provided by the congress of the United States.
39 | Mattand Apr 22, 2014 11:17:55am |
re: #34 Skip Intro
So much nastiness and ignorance like that in young people is always disturbing.
The fact she makes a decent living off of it doesn’t help, either.
40 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:18:09am |
41 | b_sharp Apr 22, 2014 11:18:29am |
re: #23 lawhawk
They both squat. Al did in the supermarket. Cliven does with his herd.
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
As if decades of nonpayment aren’t enough to warrant action? The guy’s a thief.
Do they know you are a lawyer?
42 | Mattand Apr 22, 2014 11:18:45am |
re: #38 Skip Intro
So what’s wrong with picture and why?
Proudly waving the flag of the federal government you supposedly don’t recognize.
43 | Skip Intro Apr 22, 2014 11:19:17am |
re: #39 Mattand
So much nastiness and ignorance like that in young people is always disturbing.
The fact she makes a decent living off of it doesn’t help, either.
And she home schools her kids. Poor bastards.
45 | Lidane Apr 22, 2014 11:20:57am |
Stating the obvious:
Deadly fertilizer explosion in West, Texas was preventable, investigators conclude http://t.co/fCltHjfMGy— Eric W. Dolan (@EWDolan) April 22, 2014
46 | Skip Intro Apr 22, 2014 11:21:24am |
re: #44 jaunte
Somebody’s going to post that pic of Reagan posing in an art class. I can just feel it.
47 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:22:13am |
re: #44 jaunte
Hulk Reagan SMASH pink shirt.
There’s another reason to hate that fucker. He’s proudly wearing a Rolex at a time when the Swiss were stealing jobs from Americans who worked for Elgin and Hamilton.
/ a bit.
48 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 11:22:43am |
carrot. pic.twitter.com/hYHyHKz5aO
— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) April 22, 2014
49 | Mattand Apr 22, 2014 11:23:53am |
re: #43 Skip Intro
And she home schools her kids. Poor bastards.
I know a guy who homeschools his kids and thinks that Obama willingly works with Al Queda. I can only imagine the garbage that he passes off as science and civics.
Religion and conservatism: like take a shower in gasoline while using a blow torch.
50 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:24:02am |
re: #48 jaunte
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Guinea pigs are the best of the rodent pets. They’re small, cute, affectionate, VERY rarely bite, don’t eat their young, and they purr.
51 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:25:25am |
re: #41 b_sharp
Do they know you are a lawyer?
Wait, he’s a lawyer? I thought he was just a whawk who lived in Los Angeles.
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52 | Feline Fearless Leader Apr 22, 2014 11:25:50am |
re: #50 GeneJockey
Guinea pigs are the best of the rodent pets. They’re small, cute, affectionate, VERY rarely bite, don’t eat their young, and they purr.
I modded them in dwarf fortress so that you could make soap out of them.
53 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:26:55am |
re: #52 Feline Fearless Leader
I modded them in dwarf fortress so that you could make soap out of them.
There’s nothing in that sentence that I understand.
54 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 11:27:57am |
re: #45 Lidane
Gov. Perry is in NY trying to steal businesses away from NY, claiming that they’ve got a better business climate. I guess we’d have to ignore the hole in the ground left by the West Texas explosion, the fact that environmental regs and oversight are lacking, employment regulations put workers at risk, and are so business oriented that the average Texan makes less than the average New Yorker.
55 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 11:28:23am |
re: #51 GeneJockey
Wait, he’s a lawyer? I thought he was just a whawk who lived in Los Angeles.
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New Jersey. /Lawyered!
56 | Mattand Apr 22, 2014 11:28:27am |
re: #45 Lidane
Stating the obvious:
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That one makes me nuts. IIRC, even after half of their town was leveled, and dozens of their citizens killed, the town’s residents were still all “We don’t need no gubmint telling us how to prevent lethal explosions.”
Maddow covered this a few days ago. Even after all that horror, there’s a ton of businesses still storing volatile chemicals in wooden bins, right next to populated areas, throughout the damn state.
People can shit all they want on NJ. We’ve got our problems, but compared to some of the other states? They’re fucking nuts.
57 | Jack Burton Apr 22, 2014 11:29:13am |
re: #23 lawhawk
They both squat. Al did in the supermarket. Cliven does with his herd.
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
As if decades of nonpayment aren’t enough to warrant action? The guy’s a thief.
Do they think the 10 miles square thing applies to all Federal Land rather than just DC? I had some kook arguing that clause on a Facebook post last week but never elaborated on which part of it made Bundy not a scumbag.
58 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 11:29:17am |
Another reason not to celebrate holidays like #EarthDay? The co-founder killed & composted his girlfriend. http://t.co/dEDundnatx #tcot
— Rep. Steve Stockman (@SteveWorks4You) April 22, 2014
Although Einhorn was only the master of ceremonies at the first Earth Day event, he maintains that Earth Day was his idea and that he’s responsible for launching it. Understandably, Earth Day’s organizers have distanced themselves from his name, citing Gaylord Nelson, an environmental activist and former Wisconsin governor and U.S. senator who died in 2005, as Earth Day’s official founder and organizer.
According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Sen. Gaylord Nelson created Earth Day in the spring of 1970 as a way to bring national awareness to the fact that, at the time, there were no legal or regulatory mechanisms in place to protect the environment. About 20 million participants at various Earth Day events across the U.S. made Earth Day a success, and in December of 1970, Congress authorized the creation of a new federal agency to tackle environmental issues — the EPA.
Steve Stockman, not bothering to read his own link.
59 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 22, 2014 11:29:22am |
re: #29 wrenchwench
You can’t change Cliven Bundy, but it is possible to peel off some of his support with facts, laws, and regulations. The attitudes don’t go away by themselves. They go away by persuasion.
You assume that these people are to be moved by arguments and persuasion. They know what they hear on Fox News, the second clause of the Second Amendment and little else.
All we can do is to limit the amount of damage they can cause.
60 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 22, 2014 11:30:29am |
61 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:31:19am |
re: #58 jaunte
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Steve Stockman, not bothering to read his own link.
That asshole’s still around?
63 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:33:26am |
re: #55 lawhawk
New Jersey. /Lawyered!
Wait. A lawyer who lives in New Jersey? You’re not married to my sister, are you? 58 years old, obsessed with beading and Richard III? Posts on FB about how much she hates Micheal Vick?
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64 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 11:33:56am |
re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You assume that these people are to be moved by arguments and persuasion. They know what they hear on Fox News, the second clause of the Second Amendment and little else.
All we can do is to limit the amount of damage they can cause.
It is not an assumption.
65 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:34:30am |
re: #62 jaunte
Looking for work on the troll circuit.
I tell ya, between him and GOHMERT!!, it’s a wonder Texas doesn’t die of shame.
66 | jaunte Apr 22, 2014 11:35:29am |
re: #65 GeneJockey
We do, it’s an every day thing. Eventually you get numb.
67 | Feline Fearless Leader Apr 22, 2014 11:35:46am |
What! Ryan on an apology tour!?!
Or simply an orchestrated opportunity to tell the CBC about how the GOP freed them and thus deserve their undying loyalty and obedience?
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68 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:38:39am |
re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You assume that these people are to be moved by arguments and persuasion. They know what they hear on Fox News, the second clause of the Second Amendment and little else.
All we can do is to limit the amount of damage they can cause.
After I finally gave up on arguing with Conservatives on the Bowsite, I got a few PMs from lurkers who tried to convince me to come back, because I had managed to at least open their eyes a bit.
You argue with wingnuts, not to convince wingnuts, but to ensure their voices and their lies aren’t the only things anyone hears.
69 | Flying Squirrel Girl Apr 22, 2014 11:39:20am |
re: #65 GeneJockey
And Perry. And Abbott. And Dewhurst. Tough days here.
I just keep reminding myself that we also gave the world Ann Richards and Molly Ivins.
70 | wrenchwench Apr 22, 2014 11:40:09am |
re: #68 GeneJockey
After I finally gave up on arguing with Conservatives on the Bowsite, I got a few PMs from lurkers who tried to convince me to come back, because I had managed to at least open their eyes a bit.
You argue with wingnuts, not to convince wingnuts, but to ensure their voices and their lies aren’t the only things anyone hears.
In real life, giving up is not an option.
71 | goddamnedfrank Apr 22, 2014 11:42:43am |
re: #23 lawhawk
They both squat. Al did in the supermarket. Cliven does with his herd.
And meanwhile, I’ve got squatters on my timeline who think that they have the US Constitution on their side proving the BLM doesn’t have control over the land, that it can’t be federal land under Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 17, or that the BLM was using intimidation and extreme force to secure the herd.
As if decades of nonpayment aren’t enough to warrant action? The guy’s a thief.
1.) Article 1 Section 8 is just powers of Congress.
2.) Nothing about those listed powers is exhaustive. The word “only” only appears once in the Constitution, Article 3 Section 3, defining treason.
3.) Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 totally destroys the Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 argument.
The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
So not only does the Congress have the power to make rules and regs about “other Property,” A4S3C2 was clearly intended to prevent the very kinds of limiting arguments #BundyRanch supporters are making from prevailing in court.
72 | Lidane Apr 22, 2014 11:46:28am |
This is hilarious. I posted a link to that story from KLAS in Las Vegas debunking Bundy’s claims of ancestral lands, since his maternal grandmother wasn’t even born in the area until 1901 and his family didn’t purchase the farm they’re on until 1948.
My reward was some gibbering loon babbling about it all being gubmint propaganduh and how didn’t we know that the BLM was making it all up.
These people are idiots.
73 | goddamnedfrank Apr 22, 2014 11:47:55am |
If the powers and clauses in Article 1 Section 8 is exhaustive, then NASA, the Marine Corps, and the Air Force are all illegal. Same with most other federal agencies, national parks, forests, monuments … even Arlington National Cemetery.
74 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 11:50:37am |
re: #73 goddamnedfrank
Necessary and Proper clause is quite expansive, but these nitwits also have it in for the Antiquities Act too, which is the law that established the National Parks and protection of federal lands (monuments).
They want to undo all that. And think this guy is the way to that end.
75 | GeneJockey Apr 22, 2014 11:51:46am |
re: #73 goddamnedfrank
If the powers and clauses in Article 1 Section 8 is exhaustive, then NASA, the Marine Corps, and the Air Force are all illegal. Same with most other federal agencies, national parks, forests, monuments … even Arlington National Cemetery.
You’re not applying Wingnut Textual Interpretation Rules. Texts mean exactly what they say, unless that would affect something wingnuts like, then they’re open to interpretation. Also, intellectual consistency is for suckers.
76 | GunstarGreen Apr 22, 2014 11:55:44am |
Just wanted to say, RE: Stockman, that it takes a special kind of scumbag to fish around for reasons not to celebrate Earth Day.
77 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 11:56:25am |
ugh
Ukraine alert as politician ‘killed’
Ukraine’s acting president has relaunched military operations against pro-Russian militants in the east after two men, one a local politician, were found “tortured to death”.
78 | Kragar Apr 22, 2014 11:57:41am |
Burning Man organizer plans anything-goes ‘Bundyfest’ to mock scofflaw rancher | The Raw Story http://t.co/1wC8DRgkyz— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 22, 2014
“For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada,” said the event’s organizers on a Facebook page. “But now, Cliven Bundy has shown us a NEW WAY! ABSOLUTE FREEDOM! Bundy has declared the entire area surrounding Bundy Ranch as a TOTALLY RULES-FREE ZONE! ANYTHING GOES! WOO-HOO!!!”
Progressive activist Sean Shealy said Bundyfest, which will be held across the road from Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada, for one month starting on Sept. 5.
79 | Killgore Trout Apr 22, 2014 12:02:16pm |
Search called off for 230 abducted Nigerian schoolgirls
“We formed a search party, riding on motorcycles into the forest, searching several places until a man gave us information that he saw our girls with the abductors ahead,” said Shettima Haruna, whose daughter is missing.
“The man actually told us that our children were not far away. But he warned that the abductors were well armed and kill at will, so we decided to save our lives and returned.” Another father, Shettima Hamma, confirmed the search party had to give up because they had no armed support.
“We trailed the abductors of our daughters far into very dangerous places inside the forest, but we couldn’t go further because we have no sophisticated weapons that could match that of those holding our daughters,” he said.
80 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 22, 2014 12:08:11pm |
re: #76 GunstarGreen
Just wanted to say, RE: Stockman, that it takes a special kind of scumbag to fish around for reasons not to celebrate Earth Day.
Pissin’ off a librul is reason enough…
81 | Feline Fearless Leader Apr 22, 2014 12:14:30pm |
re: #72 Lidane
This is hilarious. I posted a link to that story from KLAS in Las Vegas debunking Bundy’s claims of ancestral lands, since his maternal grandmother wasn’t even born in the area until 1901 and his family didn’t purchase the farm they’re on until 1948.
My reward was some gibbering loon babbling about it all being gubmint propaganduh and how didn’t we know that the BLM was making it all up.
These people are idiots.
You just have to follow the checklist when checking any supplied data:
1. Does the data support my position? Yes -> Approved
2. Is the fact easily challenged by other simply found data? Yes -> Challenge
3. Proceed with blather cycle until opponent gives up in disgust:
a. Cite an authority that appears to support your position
b. Personal attack on author/source of unattractive data
c. Cite conspiracy theory as source of obviously fake data
d. False (or out of context at best) quote of Lincoln/Jefferson/Washington in favor of your supposed position
e. Personal attack on opponent*
f. Cite Bible and/or Constitution out of context in favor of your position
g. Blame Obama (or Democrats) for destroying America
(repeat)
4. Declare victory
* - Please vary nature of attack so as to prevent things from being completely boring and predictable.
82 | lawhawk Apr 22, 2014 12:28:15pm |
Here we go again:
'Homeland' to Purchase 25 Million Shotgun Rounds… http://t.co/R9bA6fhzHS— Drudge Report Feed (@drudgefeed) April 22, 2014
Links to… Infowars.
The article links to a FBO request for services. 5 year contract to provide a total of 25 million rounds.
Newsworthy? Hardly. It’s to provide ammo for multiple agencies within DHS. And it’s a followup to an earlier request that was subsumed by the current one.
But to the RWNJ/wingnut media, this means go out and horde your own ammo, raise prices and gouge, and blame Obama for the shortages. /rinse and repeat
83 | Decatur Deb Apr 22, 2014 12:36:49pm |
re: #82 lawhawk
Here we go again:
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Links to… Infowars.
The article links to a FBO request for services. 5 year contract to provide a total of 25 million rounds.
Newsworthy? Hardly. It’s to provide ammo for multiple agencies within DHS. And it’s a followup to an earlier request that was subsumed by the current one.
But to the RWNJ/wingnut media, this means go out and horde your own ammo, raise prices and gouge, and blame Obama for the shortages. /rinse and repeat
it’s also an “indefinite-delivery indefinite-quantity” request. That is, it just sets the upper limit for all the rounds those agencies might buy in 5 years. That was true, AFAIK, of all the Armageddon contracts the RWNJs are screaming about.
84 | ObserverArt Apr 22, 2014 12:36:57pm |
re: #72 Lidane
This is hilarious. I posted a link to that story from KLAS in Las Vegas debunking Bundy’s claims of ancestral lands, since his maternal grandmother wasn’t even born in the area until 1901 and his family didn’t purchase the farm they’re on until 1948.
My reward was some gibbering loon babbling about it all being gubmint propaganduh and how didn’t we know that the BLM was making it all up.
These people are idiots.
Well, if they can fake Obama’s Birth Certificate, they sure as hell can go into a courthouse and change up some land title papers.
Government, you just can’t trust them…
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85 | Ming Apr 22, 2014 1:17:38pm |
re: #56 Mattand
That one makes me nuts. IIRC, even after half of their town was leveled, and dozens of their citizens killed, the town’s residents were still all “We don’t need no gubmint telling us how to prevent lethal explosions.”
Maddow covered this a few days ago. Even after all that horror, there’s a ton of businesses still storing volatile chemicals in wooden bins, right next to populated areas, throughout the damn state…
I love it… it’s the opposite of Atlas Shrugged, when the business owners “went Galt” and withdrew from society, and the unwashed 99% realized how much they needed the 1%, as they descended in to the Stone Age. In the novel, the 99% begged the 1% to come back.
The town of West, Texas, had the opposite happen: the government withdrew, no longer imposed their evil communist regulations on the good god-fearin’ business owners, left that good fertilizer plant alone, and BOOM!
Eventually, enough people in Texas may realize that they could use some of that evil government, like traffic laws, safety regulations, air and water that isn’t filled with poisons. They might even beg the government to come back.