1 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 10:24:54am |
Comedy ensues @owillis @FoxNews @megynkelly @Furiousnurse— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 25, 2014
2 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 10:29:45am |
Conservatives are starting to call out the lionization of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy. http://t.co/LRUzsEls0e— Media Matters (@mmfa) April 25, 2014
3 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 10:30:44am |
So it’s going to be that kind of day.
I almost got T-boned by a guy on a bike running a stop sign while talking on his cell phone.
4 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 10:33:04am |
re: #2 Lidane
I see Fox “News” has gotten the party line out to all the stooges to spout.
Bill O’Reilly: Conservative Media Shouldn’t Have Rushed to Back Cliven Bundy
5 | Targetpractice Apr 25, 2014 10:36:19am |
re: #4 Skip Intro
I see Fox “News” has gotten the party line out to all the stooges to spout.
>Bill O’Reilly: Conservative Media Shouldn’t Have Rushed to Back Cliven Bundy
Physician, heal thyself.
6 | lawhawk Apr 25, 2014 10:37:59am |
Hannity ate up the story so hard, Bundy should have charged him grazing fees.
HEH!
7 | Gus Apr 25, 2014 10:38:21am |
apparently the new black panthers support cliven bundy cc @foxnews @megynkelly pic.twitter.com/8Eh8CYnZPl h/t @Furiousnurse— Oliver Willis (@owillis) April 25, 2014
8 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 10:38:29am |
re: #6 lawhawk
Hannity ate up the story so hard, Bundy should have charged him grazing fees.
HEH!
WIN!
9 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 10:40:04am |
so got the Wt Auf Pz E 100 in world of tanks. If that thing had actually been made on a large scale we might all be speaking german. Fortunately it just came from the minds of Wargaming and never was actually made.
10 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 10:40:31am |
Heh.
RNC spokesman is furious the GOP has been lumped with Bundy: http://t.co/0JMrmrhrFd— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) April 25, 2014
11 | b.d. Apr 25, 2014 10:41:02am |
JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE A RACIST DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU ARE A RACIST!!1!
13 | klys Apr 25, 2014 10:41:48am |
re: #10 Lidane
Just maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe they shouldn’t have all rushed to embrace him then?
I mean, when you hug a ball of tar, unsurprisingly, it sticks to you.
14 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 10:43:25am |
And just so the dudebros won’t feel neglected:
Watch Hillary Clinton slam Edward Snowden for fleeing to Russia and China http://t.co/KGLZKgCV6w pic.twitter.com/RGO2jFgdNC— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) April 25, 2014
15 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 10:45:55am |
re: #13 klys
Just maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe they shouldn’t have all rushed to embrace him then?
I mean, when you hug a ball of tar, unsurprisingly, it sticks to you.
I’d be interested to see how the folks who love them some Charles Kraphammer feel about his comment, “Do I have the right to go in to graze sheep in Central Park? I think not. You have to have some respect for the federal government, some respect for our system. And to say you don’t and you don’t recognize it and that makes you a conservative hero, to me, is completely contradictory, and rather appalling.”
Blind pig, acorn, and all that, but I could see this being a big wedge for the Right. Half of them are running from Bundy not only because of the racism but also the anarchism, while the other half embrace him all the tighter for the same exact reasons.
17 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 10:48:19am |
RNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy (VIDEO) @TPM http://t.co/h0jMHDSf2H BWAHAHAHA! #bundyranch #tcot #gop— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 25, 2014
18 | thecommodore Apr 25, 2014 10:48:31am |
There is already a Ballad of Cliven Bundy, sort of.
So tell me, are YOU heading to Bunkerville?
19 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 10:50:15am |
re: #10 Lidane
Funny, since until yesterday you could hardly peel them away from him.
Maybe they lumped themselves?
20 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 10:50:18am |
Somali gunmen in Mogadishu back in the 90’s had a habit of shooting from behind or even underneath women who were serving as shields (and sometimes even directing fire). I saw an image of one guy shooting from between a woman’s legs while she pointed out targets to him.
I guess that is what the militia were going to try to do here…create a PR nightmare for law enforcement (potentially dozens of dead women who had no weapons actually on them) while the LE are getting hammered by sniper fire and hundreds of guys with assault rifles at close range.
Thank God these folks in the BLM were smart enough to not play into this narrative. I have no doubt that the militia was actually intending to fight for real, and mass female and children casualties could generate an actual armed insurgency in the south and southwest. They have been primed for this moment for decades…and I do not believe some of the progressives at Balloon Juice who deride them all as armchair warriors with little dick syndrome.
These guys want to fight…and there are enough armed RWNJ’s out there to present a real problem.
21 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 10:52:19am |
re: #20 Aunty Entity Dragon
I guess that is what the militia were going to try to do here…create a PR nightmare for law enforcement (potentially dozens of dead women who had no weapons actually on them) while the LE are getting hammered by sniper fire and hundreds of guys with assault rifles at close range.
And the right wing supported them 100% on doing this.
You’re completely right about this being a real problem. Someday, 1, 5 or 10 years from now these heavily armed loons are going to stage an attack on the government. It’s all but inevitable now.
22 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 10:52:37am |
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing ‘in the Bible about state education’ http://t.co/7hqOw744fJ OFFS— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 25, 2014
23 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 10:54:37am |
re: #22 Kragar
Nothing in the Bible about physics and chemistry. Witchcraft!
24 | nines09 Apr 25, 2014 10:55:02am |
re: #17 Kragar
They are just upset that Bundy had a microphone put in his face and proceeded to educate us all . Cilven Bundy IS the GOP/TP. All yours. All. Yours. Sweet isn’t it?
25 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 10:55:03am |
re: #22 Kragar
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Actually there is something in the Bible about public education, I think it’s in Kings or Chronicles, one of the rulers (Hezekiah?) ordered the scholars to go forth throughout the land and establish academies for men, women and children.
Have to look it up when I get home.
26 | nines09 Apr 25, 2014 10:55:49am |
27 | Feline Fearless Leader Apr 25, 2014 10:56:07am |
re: #9 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
so got the Wt Auf Pz E 100 in world of tanks. If that thing had actually been made on a large scale we might all be speaking german. Fortunately it just came from the minds of Wargaming and never was actually made.
A 100-ton tank would have been even more of a liability than the King Tiger was. Large scale production by Germany in the 44-45 period out of the question, and it’s operational mobility would have been pitifully small.
World of Tanks probably makes it look good since that allows you to ignore all the logistical and other issues that would have severely limited its actual usefulness on a battlefield.
28 | Bulworth Apr 25, 2014 10:56:34am |
Lidane posted:
And just so the dudebros won’t feel neglected
What’s wrong with Hillary? I mean, how can releasing classified information be a crime? And then defecting, I mean, going to the only free place in the world to hide?
//
29 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 10:56:52am |
re: #24 nines09
They are just upset that Bundy had a microphone put in his face and proceeded to educate us all . Cilven Bundy IS the GOP/TP. All yours. All. Yours. Sweet isn’t it?
I saw idiots in the comments at New Republic (ten minutes ago, in fact) insisting that the video of Bundy’s comments proved he wasn’t racist and that the NYT had doctored everything.
Words fail me.
30 | Gus Apr 25, 2014 10:57:11am |
31 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 10:58:23am |
re: #20 Aunty Entity Dragon
Somali gunmen in Mogadishu back in the 90’s had a habit of shooting from behind or even underneath women who were serving as shields (and sometimes even directing fire). I saw an image of one guy shooting from between a woman’s legs while she pointed out targets to him.
I guess that is what the militia were going to try to do here…create a PR nightmare for law enforcement (potentially dozens of dead women who had no weapons actually on them) while the LE are getting hammered by sniper fire and hundreds of guys with assault rifles at close range.
Thank God these folks in the BLM were smart enough to not play into this narrative. I have no doubt that the militia was actually intending to fight for real, and mass female and children casualties could generate an actual armed insurgency in the south and southwest. They have been primed for this moment for decades…and I do not believe some of the progressives at Balloon Juice who deride them all as armchair warriors with little dick syndrome.
These guys want to fight…and these enough armed RWNJ’s out there to present a real problem.
My experience on a hunting forum was that, although a lot of the wingnuts there had served in the military, the ones who actually served in combat were never the ones calling for violence. And the combat veterans also never gave anyone shit for not having served.
It was always the guys who put in a couple years during peacetime, or stateside who did the posturing.
32 | Mattand Apr 25, 2014 10:58:30am |
re: #29 Aunty Entity Dragon
I saw idiots in the comments at New Republic (ten minutes ago, in fact) insisting that the video of Bundy’s comments proved he wasn’t racist and that the NYT had doctored everything.
Words fail me.
Isn’t New Republic supposed to be one of the adults in the conservative world? Or am I thinking of another site/magazine?
33 | nines09 Apr 25, 2014 10:58:38am |
re: #29 Aunty Entity Dragon
It’s a cult. No other explanation. None. Zero.
34 | Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2014 10:59:31am |
re: #30 Gus
True, but Mother Jones has actually been very even-handed in their Snowden coverage; much less sycophantic fawning than sites like Techcrunch and Wired, and plenty of outright criticism too.
35 | Bulworth Apr 25, 2014 10:59:53am |
Gene Jockey posted:
I’d be interested to see how the folks who love them some Charles Kraphammer feel about his comment, “Do I have the right to go in to graze sheep in Central Park? I think not. You have to have some respect for the federal government, some respect for our system.”
Kraphammer is an authoritarian loving, croc-wearing, lickspickle. /
36 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:00:06am |
re: #32 Mattand
Isn’t New Republic supposed to be one of the adults in the conservative world? Or am I thinking of another site/magazine?
That’s the writers. The commenters are the same shitheads that populate every place where they’re not specifically, and rigourously, culled.
37 | makeitstop Apr 25, 2014 11:00:10am |
38 | Dr. Matt Apr 25, 2014 11:01:02am |
re: #22 Kragar
There’s no internet in the bible! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!
39 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:02:04am |
re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader
A 100-ton tank would have been even more of a liability than the King Tiger was. Large scale production by Germany in the 44-45 period out of the question, and it’s operational mobility would have been pitifully small.
World of Tanks probably makes it look good since that allows you to ignore all the logistical and other issues that would have severely limited its actual usefulness on a battlefield.
I could see it being useful (if it could have moved). It basically has the chassis of the E-100 but has a 128mm Autoloading Anti-aircraft style gun on a rear mount. It decimates targets at range but if spotted (and believe me it’s hard to miss) an HE shell takes out the turret and a large number of the crew.
It definitely is a blast to play once you suspend disbelief.
40 | Bulworth Apr 25, 2014 11:02:13am |
Wallace told radio host and Fox News contributor Mike Gallagher, “some of your colleagues on the conservative side jumped on this bandwagon way too quickly, way too — and, you know, I’ve never quite understood why this guy was a hero.”
Because Freedom and shutup. /
41 | Gus Apr 25, 2014 11:02:37am |
42 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 11:02:44am |
re: #35 Bulworth
Gene Jockey posted:
Kraphammer is an authoritarian loving, croc-wearing, lickspickle. /
He’s also having orgasms about the recent Supremes decision to uphold Michigan’s AA ban.
43 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:03:42am |
re: #27 Feline Fearless Leader
A 100-ton tank would have been even more of a liability than the King Tiger was. Large scale production by Germany in the 44-45 period out of the question, and it’s operational mobility would have been pitifully small.
World of Tanks probably makes it look good since that allows you to ignore all the logistical and other issues that would have severely limited its actual usefulness on a battlefield.
That tank was useless in France and Western/Northern Europe. Too big. Too heavy. Bridges could not withstand the weight. Country was heavily wooded, limiting it’s already limited mobility and the 88 mm gun on the jagdpanther and the Tiger could already handle everything. There is a reason why we sent less then 100 M103 heavy tanks to Europe during the Cold War…super big tanks with power issues need unobstructed plains to operate on to have any chance of doing something useful.
44 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:03:57am |
re: #38 Dr. Matt
There’s no internet in the bible! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!
So, on the one hand they want the country governed like an 18th Century agrarian republic, and on the other like a -4th Century nomadic tribe, and they think these are the best ways to run a 21st Century post-industrial nation.
45 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:05:10am |
re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I could see it being useful (if it could have moved). It basically has the chassis of the E-100 but has a 128mm Autoloading Anti-aircraft style gun on a rear mount. It decimates targets at range but if spotted (and believe me it’s hard to miss) an HE shell takes out the turret and a large number of the crew.
It definitely is a blast to play once you suspend disbelief.
Needs more Baneblade
46 | Mattand Apr 25, 2014 11:05:22am |
re: #36 GeneJockey
That’s the writers. The commenters are the same shitheads that populate every place where they’re not specifically, and rigourously, culled.
Certainly speaks volumes about your average rank-and-file conservative, in that even the respectable conservative site can’t control them.
47 | Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2014 11:05:32am |
Cliven Bundy - the monster from the Republican Party's id.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2014
48 | Eventual Carrion Apr 25, 2014 11:05:41am |
49 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:07:01am |
re: #31 GeneJockey
My experience on a hunting forum was that, although a lot of the wingnuts there had served in the military, the ones who actually served in combat were never the ones calling for violence. And the combat veterans also never gave anyone shit for not having served.
It was always the guys who put in a couple years during peacetime, or stateside who did the posturing.
You see a lot of posturing. At the same time…the people who went there intended to fight. They may have lost, and been out of shape REMF’s or incompetent wannabees…but you have to admit that we had a pretty high proportion of that sort of thing leading up to the shots fired at Concord and Lexington. The militias were woefully outmatched by British regulars…but they did actually fight…
50 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:07:17am |
re: #47 Charles Johnson
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There they were, at the pinnacle of their propagandizing, and it was all destroyed in a single night.
51 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 11:08:06am |
Oh, this should be fun:
UPDATE: Mpls. City Council approves resolution to swap Columbus Day for Indigenous People's Day. | http://t.co/c7Be7jkK7M— WCCO - CBS Minnesota (@WCCO) April 25, 2014
52 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:08:19am |
re: #45 Kragar
Actually, I would say the FV 214b 183 is a lot more baneblade like, or even the Jg Pz E 100. I call them both immolators given what a shot from one of those two tend to do to a tank.
53 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:08:32am |
re: #45 Kragar
Needs more Baneblade
Where’s a techpriest when you need one…
Our shipment of plasma equipped Leman Russ Executioner’s from Ryza need the proper blessings and holy unguents!
54 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:08:40am |
BELIEVE ME I HAVE MORE HAPPY VIDEOS TO BE TROTTED OUT FOR FRIDAY.
(This almost makes me want to have children, just to make my parents/his parents happy. Except that’s a shitty reason to have children when *I* don’t want them, so I won’t. But almost.)
55 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:08:50am |
re: #50 GeneJockey
There they were, at the pinnacle of their propagandizing, and it was all destroyed in a single night.
Not according to the RNC
RNC Spokesman Is Furious The GOP Has Been Lumped With Bundy (VIDEO) @TPM http://t.co/h0jMHDSf2H BWAHAHAHA! #bundyranch #tcot #gop— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 25, 2014
56 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:09:13am |
Pentagon Calls to Russia Go Unreturned
The Pentagon phoned the Russian Defense Ministry within the past 24 hours to say Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is willing to talk directly with his Russian counterpart at any time. The Russians have not returned the call.
The revelation is seen as a sign that the U.S. is growing increasingly concerned that Russian troops are about to invade Ukraine.
57 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:11:21am |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
I saw news yesterday that Russia had actually offered 5 western provinces of Ukraine to Poland last month. The Poles declined.
58 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:11:37am |
59 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:12:15am |
re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon
Where’s a techpriest when you need one…
Our shipment of plasma equipped Leman Russ Executioner’s from Ryza need the proper blessings and holy unguents!
Damn tanks always need more unguents. Fraking cogboys.
Personally, I’ve always been a fan of the LR Exterminator.
60 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:12:19am |
re: #57 Aunty Entity Dragon
I saw news yesterday that Russia had actually offered 5 western provinces of Ukraine to Poland last month. The Poles declined.
weird, I haven’t seen that one yet
61 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:12:43am |
re: #21 Skip Intro
And the right wing supported them 100% on doing this.
You’re completely right about this being a real problem. Someday, 1, 5 or 10 years from now these heavily armed loons are going to stage an attack on the government. It’s all but inevitable now.
Imagine a major disaster, natural, man-made or a combination of both…the government has to call out armed troops and police to maintain order and provide basic services.
Imagine the armed nutbags deciding that this is a government coup to seize power and coming out in droves with pickup trucks and assault rifles, turning whole swathes of the country into something resembling Somalia.
That is what we are facing.
62 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:12:49am |
re: #31 GeneJockey
My experience on a hunting forum was that, although a lot of the wingnuts there had served in the military, the ones who actually served in combat were never the ones calling for violence. And the combat veterans also never gave anyone shit for not having served.
It was always the guys who put in a couple years during peacetime, or stateside who did the posturing.
I have two fishing buddies. One was in Somalia and Gulf War I as a marine in a mortar division. The other was a marine mechanic working the motor pool in Okinawa during both of those conflicts. My buddy who was in combat respects everyone regardless of service and while he talks about what went down he doesn’t brag and he doesn’t go all gung-ho.
The one who worked the motor pool is a braggart and looks down on people who never served (or seems to) and can be a loud mouth prick always bragging about serving.
It’s funny because he’ll start telling these stories about working the motor pool that always come off sounding like “this one time at band camp” and my other buddy usually shuts him up with “yeah, well while you were doing that I was dodging sniper fire in Mogadishu”.
63 | Bulworth Apr 25, 2014 11:13:24am |
GeneJockey posted:
There they were, at the pinnacle of their propagandizing, and it was all destroyed in a single night.
Yeah they were about ready to launch the Revolution and IMPEACH!! IMPEACH!!! and then the dude had to open his mouth. //
64 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:14:01am |
re: #49 Aunty Entity Dragon
You see a lot of posturing. At the same time…the people who went there intended to fight. They may have lost, and been out of shape REMF’s or incompetent wannabees…but you have to admit that we had a pretty high proportion of that sort of thing leading up to the shots fired at Concord and Lexington. The militias were woefully outmatched by British regulars…but they did actually fight…
Oh, sure, there were probably some who’d fight. There always are. For every hundred or more guys who dream about blowing shit up, there’s a Tim McVeigh who actually does.
There are a lot more who have a fantasy of what it would be like, who’d freeze, panic etc. as soon as actual bullets started flying. My point is that guys who actually experienced this sort of thing are rarely the ones calling for it. It was the ones who fantasize about what it would be like. I suspect Mr. “I have a clear shot at four of them” is one of those.
65 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:14:09am |
Somebody’s gonna get a strongly worded letter
Pro-Russian Separatists Seize International Observers In Ukraine
Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine have seized seven international observers with the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe as well as five Ukrainian soldiers and their bus driver, the Ukranian Foreign Ministry said Friday.
66 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:14:42am |
re: #22 Kragar
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing ‘in the Bible about state education’
If you study the history of public education, it grew out of the religious reformation, part of the notion that we should all be able to read the Bible for ourselves and not be dependent on others to interpret it for us.
This guy is astoundingly stupid.
Anti-government as an ideology in itself.
67 | Bulworth Apr 25, 2014 11:14:44am |
Aunt Entity posted:
I saw news yesterday that Russia had actually offered 5 western provinces of Ukraine to Poland last month. The Poles declined.
This is not going to end well, I’m afraid.
68 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:14:44am |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
weird, I haven’t seen that one yet
Here’s some for you, and some for you. According to the Polish foreign minister, Russia offered to give Poland five provinces of Ukraine about a month ago. The deputy speaker of the Russian Duma also made a similar proposal to Hungary and Romania. “We told him we were not doing it,” Radoslaw Sikorski revealed on Wednesday. Sikorski also requested U.S. troop protection, and theorized about when Russia would stop. “Russia probably has enough resources to digest Crimea,” he said. “I think all of eastern and southern Ukraine might give them indigestion.”
69 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:14:45am |
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Imagine a major disaster, natural, man-made or a combination of both…the government has to call out armed troops and police to maintain order and provide basic services.
Imagine the armed nutbags deciding that this is a government coup to seize power and coming out in droves with pickup trucks and assault rifles, turning whole swathes of the country into something resembling Somalia.
That is what we are facing.
They have already pretty much said that if the military, in the form of the National Guard was called out due to a natural disaster it would be step one of the GUBMINT plan to seize total power. They fantasize about it happening.
70 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:14:56am |
71 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:16:23am |
and speaking of Warhammer (regarding tanks) that’s one game I was sad to see not be made, Warhammer 40k Online, and along with it the demise of THQ.
72 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:16:38am |
re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I could see it being useful (if it could have moved). It basically has the chassis of the E-100 but has a 128mm Autoloading Anti-aircraftstyle gun on a rear mount. It decimates targets at range but if spotted (and believe me it’s hard to miss) an HE shell takes out the turret and a large number of the crew.
It definitely is a blast to play once you suspend disbelief.
Not to mention that there was not a bridge in Europe that could have carried it across a waterway…
73 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 11:17:06am |
re: #55 Kragar
It’s so unfair that Republicans are being accused of being Bundy supporters.
It’s not as though GOP office holders like Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Governor Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Dean Heller, or 2012 Presidential Hopeful Herman Cain actually came out in support of Bundy, after all.
74 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:19:13am |
re: #73 Skip Intro
It’s so unfair that Republicans are being accused of being Bundy supporters.
It’s not as though GOP office holders like Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Governor Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Dean Heller, or 2012 Presidential Hopeful Herman Cain actually came out in support of Bundy, after all.
If they had simply stopped at saying that they support him in his dispute with the BLM, they could’ve sidestepped the issue.
But they had to elevate him to the status of True Patriot and Official Poster Child.
Now they seriously regret his lack of “media training”.
75 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:19:26am |
re: #71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
and speaking of Warhammer (regarding tanks) that’s one game I was sad to see not be made, Warhammer 40k Online, and along with it the demise of THQ.
Yeah, THQ going under was a real shock
76 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:20:13am |
re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Not to mention that there was not a bridge in Europe that could have carried it across a waterway…
oh that’s a given. It’s amazing some of the weaponry ideas that all sides had.
77 | gwangung Apr 25, 2014 11:20:23am |
O. T.
Aetna charges Good Samaritan burn victim for “unnecessary medical treatment”
“It was not my choice to stay in the burn center for seven days,” he said. “This was a decision made by medical professionals who treated me on a daily basis. To have the doctors’ judgment questioned and overruled by an insurance company who did not treat me or see the extent of my injuries is unthinkable.”
These are the rat bastards the right wing thinks are wayyyyy better than government medicine.
Good this guy (a family friend) was part of the 10%—-imagine what would happen to a middle class or poor person.
79 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:20:55am |
re: #64 GeneJockey
Oh, sure, there were probably some who’d fight. There always are. For every hundred or more guys who dream about blowing shit up, there’s a Tim McVeigh who actually does.
There are a lot more who have a fantasy of what it would be like, who’d freeze, panic etc. as soon as actual bullets started flying. My point is that guys who actually experienced this sort of thing are rarely the ones calling for it. It was the ones who fantasize about what it would be like. I suspect Mr. “I have a clear shot at four of them” is one of those.
I think that we had a self selecting thing going on here where the armchair fantasists stayed home. You probably need some level of actual intent to leave your job and home, lack up gear, ammunition and weapons and drive 700 miles to some guys ranch you have never met.
That becomes a weakest link scenario where the least stable person dictates what happens next. Again, I thank God that the BLM de-escalated before somebody squeezed a trigger.
80 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:20:57am |
re: #68 Aunty Entity Dragon
Interesting. Maybe Putin is trying to woo some countries away from NATO.
81 | lawhawk Apr 25, 2014 11:21:21am |
re: #22 Kragar
Nothing about disaster aid (hurricanes have a nasty and tricksy habit of laying waste to the coast). Oh, and earthquakes too. Those are in the Bible (and the walls of Jericho come a tumblin’ down), but nothing about repaying to help rebuild…
82 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:21:47am |
re: #75 Kragar
Yeah, THQ going under was a real shock
No kidding. and it sucks because the original Dawn Of War series was great, the only problem is the resolution restrictions so it’s nearly unplayable on my machine since you can’t go past 1024x768. The newer ones (Dawn Of War II) were just not as fun as the standard strategy ones.
Warhammer 40K Space Marine was pretty fun though.
83 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:23:31am |
re: #80 Killgore Trout
Interesting. Maybe Putin is trying to woo some countries away from NATO.
Bad call then…because he scared the hell out of them. Not a coincidence that we started wargames in Poland the day before yesterday.
84 | Snarknado! Apr 25, 2014 11:27:00am |
re: #25 Pie-onist Overlord
Actually there is something in the Bible about public education, I think it’s in Kings or Chronicles, one of the rulers (Hezekiah?) ordered the scholars to go forth throughout the land and establish academies for men, women and children.
Have to look it up when I get home.
Jehosephat. 2Chronicles 17:1-10 (I think that’s what you’re thinking of — isn’t the internet wonderful?)
85 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:27:02am |
re: #82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
No kidding. and it sucks because the original Dawn Of War series was great, the only problem is the resolution restrictions so it’s nearly unplayable on my machine since you can’t go past 1024x768. The newer ones (Dawn Of War II) were just not as fun as the standard strategy ones.
Warhammer 40K Space Marine was pretty fun though.
Final Liberation remains my favorite. Ah, the days of live action cinematic cutscenes
86 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:28:17am |
re: #85 Kragar
Never played that one.
87 | Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2014 11:28:22am |
When the media say Cliven Bundy used the word “Negro,” they're not telling you the full truth. The word he used was “nigra.”— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2014
88 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:29:12am |
re: #82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
No kidding. and it sucks because the original Dawn Of War series was great, the only problem is the resolution restrictions so it’s nearly unplayable on my machine since you can’t go past 1024x768. The newer ones (Dawn Of War II) were just not as fun as the standard strategy ones.
Warhammer 40K Space Marine was pretty fun though.
The Holy Emperor, through this, the Office of the Inquisition, does hereby abjure and admonish you for unseemly attitudes regarding amusement and the employment of the Adeptus Astartes. You are to report for satirical accountability penance at Ceti Omicron III, Imperial City XIV, Administratum Building Alpha LXII level 28, room 14 where you are to sit in the GREEN chair.
For the Emperor
Jenal Felistran
Explicator
Ordo Malleus
89 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:29:56am |
90 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:31:16am |
re: #88 Aunty Entity Dragon
The Holy Emperor, through this, the Office of the Inquisition, does hereby abjure and admonish you for unseemly attitudes regarding amusement and the employment of the Adeptus Astartes. You are to report for satirical accountability penance at Ceti Omicron III, Imperial City XIV, Administratum Building Alpha LXII level 28, room 14 where you are to sit in the GREEN chair.
For the Emperor
Jenal Felistran
Explicator
Ordo Malleus
I see you’re a student of the “Rocks aren’t free” school
91 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:31:21am |
re: #87 Charles Johnson
When the media say Cliven Bundy used the word “Negro,” they’re not telling you the full truth. The word he used was “nigra.”
It was the definite article that bugged me: “The nigra”.
I am sorry, I was raised to judge people as individuals, not by their group affiliation.
Talking about them in such terms collectively is most undeniably racist.
The cracker.
92 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 11:31:42am |
re: #54 klys
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BELIEVE ME I HAVE MORE HAPPY VIDEOS TO BE TROTTED OUT FOR FRIDAY.
(This almost makes me want to have children, just to make my parents/his parents happy. Except that’s a shitty reason to have children when *I* don’t want them, so I won’t. But almost.)
You should have children because *you* want them. Not to make your parents happy.
93 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:31:50am |
94 | HappyWarrior Apr 25, 2014 11:32:32am |
re: #73 Skip Intro
It’s so unfair that Republicans are being accused of being Bundy supporters.
It’s not as though GOP office holders like Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Governor Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Dean Heller, or 2012 Presidential Hopeful Herman Cain actually came out in support of Bundy, after all.
Yep. They put their lot in with this nutcase. Tough shit Preince, maybe you guys shouldn’t just jump on to someone’s cause just because they’re anti Obama and you see it as a cheap way to motivate your base. Tell you what though, the backlash against Bundy by the establishment is only going to infuriate the purer than thou even more so.
95 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:32:40am |
re: #92 Pie-onist Overlord
You should have children because *you* want them. Not to make your parents happy.
Pretty much.
Which is why my mother gets grandkittens.
96 | Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 25, 2014 11:32:45am |
re: #90 Kragar
I see you’re a student of the “Rocks aren’t free” school
That was a classic back about 14 years ago. I couldn’t resist!
97 | jaunte Apr 25, 2014 11:33:07am |
One of Cliven Bundy’s daughters is upset.
I’m sure most of you have heard the news about my dad being called a racist. Wow! The media loves to take things out of context don’t they? First off I’d just like to say that my dad has never been the most eloquent speaking person. Like someone said, he’s a Moses who needs an Aaron to speak for him. This is true. Second, however, is that the media has turned this into a circus side show. It’s like their trying to throw us off the real subject. Why was this ever even brought up? What does this have to do with land rights issues?
motherjones.com
Yes, why did the media force Cliven to start talking about what he “knows” about a bunch of people he lumped together in his mind?
98 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:33:34am |
re: #97 jaunte
One of Cliven Bundy’s daughters is upset.
Yes, why did the media force Cliven to start talking about what he “knows” about a bunch of people he lumped together in his mind?
I LOLed at the idea that he’s like Moses.
100 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:34:06am |
re: #83 Aunty Entity Dragon
Bad call then…because he scared the hell out of them. Not a coincidence that we started wargames in Poland the day before yesterday.
It’s probably not going to work but he’s sowing the seeds of doubt. If these countries feel that NATO isn’t going to protect them they’ll have to consider other alliances.
102 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:35:05am |
re: #95 klys
Pretty much.
Which is why my mother gets grandkittens.
You may change your mind later.
Or not.
But in any case, not wanting children is an excellent reason for not having children, whereas someone else wanting you to have them is a terrible reason to have them.
103 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 11:35:54am |
re: #95 klys
Pretty much.
Which is why my mother gets grandkittens.
I wish one of my kids would get a cat or a dog.
My son in Toronto says he wants to get a pygmy goat for his kids to play with. The problem with that is even if you get a goat the size of a dog, it still smells like a goat.
104 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 11:36:26am |
I would get a cat but I already have a grumpy old man.
105 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:36:50am |
re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord
I wish one of my kids would get a cat or a dog.
My son in Toronto says he wants to get a pygmy goat for his kids to play with. The problem with that is even if you get a goat the size of a dog, it still smells like a goat.
See, now, that’s why I like Greyhounds. They don’t smell like dogs, even when wet.
106 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:37:09am |
re: #102 GeneJockey
You may change your mind later.
Or not.
But in any case, not wanting children is an excellent reason for not having children, whereas someone else wanting you to have them is a terrible reason to have them.
Still, it’s really heartwarming to see the joy on her dad’s face when he finds out he’s going to be a grandpa (in the original video linked). Which is why it is an almost.
Fortunately, I can separate the emotion from actual decision making. :) Which is still a hell no.
107 | lawhawk Apr 25, 2014 11:37:28am |
re: #98 klys
I LOLed at the idea that he’s like Moses.
Well, he has been wandering the desert of Nevada for about that long, as he sets his herd to graze on land that isn’t his (though he thinks that he’s somehow tied to the land).
108 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:38:49am |
re: #107 lawhawk
Well, he has been wandering the desert of Nevada for about that long, as he sets his herd to graze on land that isn’t his (though he thinks that he’s somehow tied to the land).
He parted the Red States
109 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:39:02am |
110 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:40:17am |
Looks like the embarrassing hashtag activism is part of a deliberate policy
Russians, US in Hashtag Battle
the U.S. has started the New Ukraine Task Force, a social media hub in Russian to talk to Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine and in Central Europe, who State says are being bombarded by Russian media.The campaign is also spearheading the English posts and hashtags that are trying to help counter the influence in greater Europe of RT, the Russian government-owned television station formally called Russia Today that is distributed around the world, including the United States. -
111 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:40:27am |
re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord
I wish one of my kids would get a cat or a dog.
My son in Toronto says he wants to get a pygmy goat for his kids to play with. The problem with that is even if you get a goat the size of a dog, it still smells like a goat.
If he was in the Bay Area I know where there is an excellent kitten who should be eligible for adoption next week.
(It rained here last night, so I at least have the comfort of knowing that she was indoors and dry and warm.)
112 | wrenchwench Apr 25, 2014 11:42:50am |
re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord
I would get a cat but I already have a grumpy old man.
I got two cats, and one of them fell in love with my grumpy old man and made him less grumpy. (He wasn’t very grumpy to start with, though, but he had never had a pet, and it’s been fun to see.)
113 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:43:12am |
Slavery is just an occupation, I guess. One where you're whipped till the skin falls off your back and your wife/kids are sold off at will.— Trill, Baby, Trill (@eclecticbrotha) April 25, 2014
114 | Timothy Watson Apr 25, 2014 11:43:14am |
“Hashtag diplomacy”: As stupid as “hashtag activism”?
115 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:44:44am |
As bad as slavery was, liberal slavery black culture is in is worse. At least slaves knew they were slaves, and could yearn for freedom.— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) April 25, 2014
116 | bubba zanetti Apr 25, 2014 11:45:51am |
re: #98 klys
I LOLed at the idea that he’s like Moses.
Is anyone compiling a list of all the people he’s been compared to?
117 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:46:17am |
re: #88 Aunty Entity Dragon
The Holy Emperor, through this, the Office of the Inquisition, does hereby abjure and admonish you for unseemly attitudes regarding amusement and the employment of the Adeptus Astartes. You are to report for satirical accountability penance at Ceti Omicron III, Imperial City XIV, Administratum Building Alpha LXII level 28, room 14 where you are to sit in the GREEN chair.
For the Emperor
Jenal Felistran
Explicator
Ordo Malleus
I much prefer Chaos or even the Tau or Dark Eldar.
118 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:46:46am |
re: #106 klys
Still, it’s really heartwarming to see the joy on her dad’s face when he finds out he’s going to be a grandpa (in the original video linked). Which is why it is an almost.
Fortunately, I can separate the emotion from actual decision making. :) Which is still a hell no.
IIRC, you’re still pretty young. We didn’t even think about kids till we were almost 33.
119 | prairiefire Apr 25, 2014 11:47:37am |
re: #6 lawhawk
Hannity ate up the story so hard, Bundy should have charged him grazing fees.
HEH!
Winning the Internets!
120 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:47:51am |
re: #115 Kragar
WTFittyFingF?
121 | bubba zanetti Apr 25, 2014 11:48:21am |
CLIVEN BUNDY IS HAN SOLO! HES JUST TRYING TO THE RIGHT THING IN THE WRONG WAY!
122 | makeitstop Apr 25, 2014 11:48:27am |
Bundy’s daughter slams Hannity
Sean Hannity was all for reporting the happenings at the Bundy Ranch until this popped up. I wonder if someone hoped it would be that way….By the way, I think Mr. Hannity is more worried about his ratings than he really is about what my dad said. If he supports a supposed racist, what will that do to his ratings? He’s already lost his #1 spot on Fox.
This whole thing is way more entertaining than I thought it would be.
123 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 11:48:28am |
124 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:48:36am |
oh and The Necrons.
125 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:48:39am |
re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
WTFiityFingF?
Be advised, that twitter is just reposts of quotes by Freepers, he’s not saying them himself
126 | NJDhockeyfan Apr 25, 2014 11:48:55am |
LIVE @wsbtv chopper: Kennesaw State U in Georgia on lockdown after report of gunman on campus http://t.co/xXfdeDMXFP pic.twitter.com/LPLXE7vgvx— NewsBreaker (@NewsBreaker) April 25, 2014
127 | Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2014 11:48:59am |
Republicans now backing away from Bundy, but they were fine with the militias, threats to kill BLM agents, snipers, sovereign citizens, etc.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2014
128 | jaunte Apr 25, 2014 11:49:39am |
re: #115 Kragar
The RNC leadership is so puzzled their outreach isn’t going well.
129 | klys Apr 25, 2014 11:49:46am |
re: #118 GeneJockey
IIRC, you’re still pretty young. We didn’t even think about kids till we were almost 33.
I’m young.
He is …not so young.
If we wait until I am 33, he’ll be 50.
Neither of us is children-inclined, though. To both sets of parents’ disappointment.
130 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:50:20am |
131 | Varek Raith Apr 25, 2014 11:50:55am |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
It’s probably not going to work but he’s sowing the seeds of doubt. If these countries feel that NATO isn’t going to protect them they’ll have to consider other alliances.
Russia would lose any conventional engagement with NATO.
Putin knows it.
We know it.
Everyone knows it.
132 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 11:52:22am |
re: #131 Varek Raith
Russia would lose any conventional engagement with NATO.
Putin knows it.
We know it.
Everyone knows it.
It would still be a disaster for Europe and tumble the entire world into chaos.
And we all know it
133 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 11:52:31am |
So did any of you know that there’s a Republic for the United States of America?
Well, there is, and they’re all Bundy buddies.
Here’s a short list, with their positions in The Republic for the United States:
James Lynn Horton
Interim Governor Arkansas free-State
Daniel Mark Owens
Vice President
Jeanine Cherie Stewart
Acting Secretary of State
Brenda Kay Owens
Assistant Secretary of State
Michael Bishop - Florida
Free-State Governor
Kevin Saunders - Connecticut
Free-State Governor
Morse “Mac” Stewart- Oregon
Free-State Governor
Cory Perkins - New Jersey
Nominee Free-State Governor
Anthony Smith - Nebraska
Free-State Governor
Linda McLaughlin - Oklahoma
Free-State Governor
Ray Marner - Indiana
Free-State Governor
Dean Henning - Wisconsin
Free-State Governor
Jim Carpenter - Colorado
Free-State Lt. Governor
Gregory Johnson - Colorado
Secretary of State
Jean Hertler - Wisconsin
Secretary of State
Craig Swets - Indiana
Attorney General
Cindy Rohan - Wisconsin
Deputy Treasurer
Connie Schultz - Wisconsin
Records Keeper
David Hertler - Wisconsin
National Representative
Mark Rohan - Wisconsin
State Representative
Nick Krug - Arkansas
National Senator
Nick Smith - Indiana
National Senator
Candace Campbell - Iowa
National Senator
Pete Moake - Chief Justice
Supreme Court
Roger Waters - Indiana
District Court Judge
Jim Bleakley - Washington
State Chief Justice
John Eicher - Indiana
State Chief Justice
Michael Brum - Wisconsin
State Chief Justice
134 | NJDhockeyfan Apr 25, 2014 11:53:02am |
#Iran, which ordered the hanging of a rape survivor, is now overseeing women's rights at the #UN: http://t.co/b0p7ipaeUA #fem2 #humanrights— Jon Hutson (@jonhutson) April 25, 2014
135 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Apr 25, 2014 11:54:54am |
re: #130 Kragar
Nope, love the idea of a horde of basically undead machines going on a warpath. It’s like terminator meets The Walking Dead.
136 | EmmaAnne Apr 25, 2014 11:55:37am |
137 | sagehen Apr 25, 2014 11:56:05am |
re: #35 Bulworth
Gene Jockey posted:
Kraphammer is an authoritarian loving, croc-wearing, lickspickle. /
“Do I have the right to go in to graze sheep in Central Park? I think not.
Used to be, until 1934. That’s why one of the open spaces (not the Great Lawn, but the next biggest) is still called the Sheep Meadow. (it’s a designated “quiet zone” now… no dogs, no radios, no organized sports.)
138 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:56:31am |
re: #117 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I much prefer Chaos or even the Tau or Dark Eldar.
I do have an Night Lords and some Dark Eldar
Tau can die beneath the blades of the righteous
140 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 11:57:17am |
re: #139 jaunte
Self appointed, I assume?
Of course! Because a Republic has nothing to do with Representative Democracy.
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141 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 11:57:20am |
re: #135 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Nope, love the idea of a horde of basically undead machines going on a warpath. It’s like terminator meets The Walking Dead.
I liked them better before they retconned them into the dynasties
142 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 11:58:32am |
re: #131 Varek Raith
Russia would lose any conventional engagement with NATO.
Putin knows it.
We know it.
Everyone knows it.
I think you’re right but Putin is unlikely to lose a conventional war that we won’t engage in.
144 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 11:58:59am |
re: #140 GeneJockey
Of course! Because a Republic has nothing to do with Representative Democracy.
/////
BECAUSE ALL IT TAKES IS III% TO OVERTHROW A TYRANNY!!!!!
When your Smiling the Whole World Smiles with U pic.twitter.com/m3yjYOmpQs #2A #NJ2AS #tcot #ccot #pjnet— 2ANow (@2ANow) April 25, 2014
145 | Skip Intro Apr 25, 2014 11:59:07am |
re: #139 jaunte
Self appointed, I assume?
The Republic for the United States of America serves in an interim capacity, under the Constitution, and is working to provide the American public full disclosure and to act as a foundation for the free States until a lawful election can be conducted under the Constitution and free from the influence of the corporate democracy that has been posing as the government for the United States and the banking concerns that support it.
It’s the JOOs we gots to get rid of. Then the nigras will be happy to go back to being property again.
146 | Kragar Apr 25, 2014 12:01:30pm |
Its Friday, so music time https://t.co/VyyGaQNEQ3— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 25, 2014
147 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 12:01:57pm |
Because people who work at hard labor standing on their feet for hours on end put in so much less EFFORT than CEO’s.
More often than not, it is EFFORT inequality that results in INCOME inequality! #SisterPatriots #PJNET #TCOT #RedNationRising— Judy Stines (@jstines3) April 25, 2014
148 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 12:02:38pm |
Hillary’s going to have a hard time exciting the progressive base if she keeps this up
Hillary Clinton: What Snowden Did ‘Gave All Kinds of Information’ to Terrorists
149 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 12:02:58pm |
re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord
Because a bunch of hunters with rifles stand a chance against a local SWAT team, never mind the same military that spends more than the next dozen countries COMBINED.
150 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 12:03:33pm |
Clinton also took a moment to mock the strange moment when Snowden asked Vladimir Putin about Russian surveillance during a live chat.
There will be outrage
151 | kirkspencer Apr 25, 2014 12:04:10pm |
re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord
BECAUSE ALL IT TAKES IS III% TO OVERTHROW A TYRANNY!!!!!
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Too bad for them the number’s wrong.
Someone ought to ask them for examples, and then ask why the south lost. (not to mention Shays and the Whiskey rebellion and allll the native american losses. Oh, and I suppose we should include Hawaii. And that’s just staying here in the US.)
152 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 12:04:12pm |
re: #149 Lidane
Because a bunch of hunters with rifles stand a chance against a local SWAT team, never mind the same military that spends more than the next dozen countries COMBINED.
I pointed this out and the guy said DON’T INTERRUPT MY MEME U COMMUNIST!!!!!! BLOCKED & REPORTED FOR SPAM!!!!!!!
153 | jaunte Apr 25, 2014 12:04:15pm |
re: #146 Kragar
Blues Image moved to Miami in 1968, where they were instrumental in helping promoters form the most innovative music venue in South Florida, ‘Thee Image’. Blues Image became the house band at the club, which featured bands like the Grateful Dead, Cream, and Blood, Sweat and Tears.
en.wikipedia.org
154 | NJDhockeyfan Apr 25, 2014 12:04:19pm |
WTF???
South Korea officials says bodies of some ferry victims were misidentified and sent to the wrong families: http://t.co/fa278mub7e— The Associated Press (@AP) April 25, 2014
155 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 12:04:36pm |
re: #129 klys
I’m young.
He is …not so young.
If we wait until I am 33, he’ll be 50.
Neither of us is children-inclined, though. To both sets of parents’ disappointment.
But you’re letting the swarthy foreigners outbreed the whites!
My parents once said the one big regret they had for all of us was that none of us could have the big family they did, because times had changed. Things weren’t the same as they were in the 1945-1975 era when they raised us.
As my boys reach maturity, I realize the times are very different for them, too. I couldn’t wait to get out on my own. I learned to drive at as early an age as I could, at 17 I was taking bus trips of hundreds of miles on my own, at 21 I moved out of Mom and Dad’s house for good and all, at 23 I moved from Ithaca to California, where I knew NOBODY, but did have a job lined up.
Neither of my boys has shown any interest in learning to drive, or moving out, and they are VERY normal for their generation that way.
EDIT: My point being that people are who they are, and parents may want them to be younger versions of themselves, and want the same things they did, but that’s not how it works.
156 | Lidane Apr 25, 2014 12:04:43pm |
The only people who would be outraged by Hillary Clinton criticizing Snowden are people who wouldn’t vote for her anyway. Pfft.
157 | Pie-onist Overlord Apr 25, 2014 12:05:39pm |
CARTOON: Poor Sean Hannity http://t.co/qxqjGR2DA2 pic.twitter.com/UBQpPw1ePw— The National Memo (@NationalMemo) April 25, 2014
158 | b.d. Apr 25, 2014 12:05:45pm |
re: #148 Killgore Trout
Hillary’s going to have a hard time exciting the progressive base if she keeps this up
Hillary Clinton: What Snowden Did ‘Gave All Kinds of Information’ to Terrorists
The fauxgressives already loathe Hillary Clinton, this just validates it.
Gotta whine about something.
161 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 12:08:59pm |
re: #156 Lidane
The only people who would be outraged by Hillary Clinton criticizing Snowden are people who wouldn’t vote for her anyway. Pfft.
Not much love for Hillary in the comments on Mother Jones
motherjones.com
162 | Killgore Trout Apr 25, 2014 12:09:45pm |
re: #158 b.d.
The fauxgressives already loathe Hillary Clinton, this just validates it.
Gotta whine about something.
There aren’t going to like any candidate rational enough to win an election.
163 | calochortus Apr 25, 2014 12:10:08pm |
re: #159 GeneJockey
EDIT: My point being that people are who they are, and parents may want them to be younger versions of themselves, and want the same things they did, but that’s not how it works.
Yeah, you have to live your life so that you are as happy as possible and don’t need to have your kids (if any) live the life you wanted. My parents let me be who I am. I hope I’m letting my kids live the lives that will satisfy them.
Not that I’d mind being a grandmother, but that’s really not my decision, nor do I want it to be.
164 | Varek Raith Apr 25, 2014 12:10:14pm |
re: #162 Killgore Trout
There aren’t going to like any candidate rational enough to win an election.
So don’t bother with them.
165 | klys Apr 25, 2014 12:10:21pm |
re: #155 GeneJockey
I have gotten the “you are smart, you really should be passing your genes along” speech.
It’s been a kind of shitty time to be a young adult, in some ways. Job market has sucked (and I know, for everyone, but it’s really hard to get experience when all jobs want experience - you really have to be on top of things in college and do internships, etc., and most people aren’t).
I know I’m jealous of some of the European countries where young folks I’ve talked to were able to take a year and kind of figure out what they wanted to do before going back to college or whatever, without having to worry about health insurance and whatnot.
166 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 12:10:23pm |
re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord
BECAUSE ALL IT TAKES IS III% TO
OVERTHROWESTABLISH A TYRANNY!!!!![Embedded content]
FTFY
167 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Apr 25, 2014 12:15:16pm |
re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord
Because people who work at hard labor standing on their feet for hours on end put in so much less EFFORT than CEO’s.
More often than not, it is EFFORT inequality that results in INCOME inequality!
This is not a discussion that can be carried out on Twitter…there is equality of opportunity and equality of outcome…the two are separate but not unrelated.
But save us any nuance that does not fit into 140 characters…
168 | calochortus Apr 25, 2014 12:19:39pm |
A strange thing, but when I change tonight’s menu on the spur of the moment, I never seem to have quite all the ingredients for what I want to make. So, off to the store. I think I will combine food acquisition with healthful exercise by walking down. And, unfortunately, back up. It’s only a mile, but about 400 feet or so up, the last 0.2 miles having nearly half of that elevation gain.
BBL.
(It’s good for me, it’s good for me… ;) )
169 | GeneJockey Apr 25, 2014 12:21:03pm |
re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
This is not a discussion that can be carried out on Twitter…there is equality of opportunity and equality of outcome…the two are separate but not unrelated.
But save us any nuance that does not fit into 140 characters…
The people who think income inequality exists because poor people don’t work hard enough do not understand that the economy is not what it was when they were younger. There are not jobs paying the equivalent of $20K 1980 dollars for kids just graduating. Hell, there are barely JOBS for them. Add to that the fact that the jobs that disappear in every recession are good jobs with good pay and benefits, and the ones that replace them are lower paying with less benefits.
We are creating WAY more shitty jobs than good jobs, but unless you’ve experienced that, you tend to assume it was like it was when you were young and there were good jobs to be had if you looked.
170 | Romantic Heretic Apr 25, 2014 12:23:06pm |
re: #31 GeneJockey
My experience on a hunting forum was that, although a lot of the wingnuts there had served in the military, the ones who actually served in combat were never the ones calling for violence. And the combat veterans also never gave anyone shit for not having served.
It was always the guys who put in a couple years during peacetime, or stateside who did the posturing.
In the words of Bill Mauldin, “The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry”
171 | Romantic Heretic Apr 25, 2014 12:31:41pm |
re: #64 GeneJockey
Oh, sure, there were probably some who’d fight. There always are. For every hundred or more guys who dream about blowing shit up, there’s a Tim McVeigh who actually does.
There are a lot more who have a fantasy of what it would be like, who’d freeze, panic etc. as soon as actual bullets started flying. My point is that guys who actually experienced this sort of thing are rarely the ones calling for it. It was the ones who fantasize about what it would be like. I suspect Mr. “I have a clear shot at four of them” is one of those.
I have a book in my library, Panzer Commander by Hans von Luck. In it he notes that, in his experience, it was the loud ones that broke first in combat. He depended on the quiet ones who just went about their job even as artillery fell around them that he depended on.
172 | ObserverArt Apr 25, 2014 12:40:11pm |
re: #51 Lidane
Oh, this should be fun:
UPDATE: Mpls. City Council approves resolution to swap Columbus Day for Indigenous People’s Day.
Would I then be from People’s Day Ohio?
173 | Romantic Heretic Apr 25, 2014 12:50:28pm |
re: #144 Pie-onist Overlord
BECAUSE ALL IT TAKES IS III% TO OVERTHROW A TYRANNY!!!!!
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How is a government founded and run by 3% of the population not a tyranny?