And Now, the Best Cat in All of Human History

A selfless kitteh? Inconceivable!
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I’ve been around a lot of cats in my life, and owned a few as pets, and I love ‘em, but never have I seen a cat do something like this. In fact, knowing how cats are, I have to suspect that she wasn’t really saving the kid, but just messing with the dog.

Still …. this is definitely something you won’t see every day.

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343 comments
1 Dr. Matt  May 14, 2014 11:47:10am

I literally just posted this downstairs a second ago.

Get out of my brain, Charles!

2 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 11:49:41am

Jesus wouldn’t eat chicken that was not kosher

3 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 11:49:46am

Kitty gets some tunafish!

4 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 11:50:31am

That kid was hurt bad!

Was that dog a family pet or some stray?

5 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 11:51:45am

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

That kid was hurt bad!

Was that dog a family pet or some stray?

It belongs to their neighbor. I bet they’ve already spoke to a lawyer by now.

6 Kragar  May 14, 2014 11:52:05am

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

7 A Mom Anon  May 14, 2014 11:52:59am

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Hell a whole salmon is in order for that one. It’s funny how some dogs, even big ones are scared shitless of cats that are 90 percent smaller than they are. My GSD/Doberman mix is terrified of our 12 lb cat. It’s kinda sad, but heelarious too.

Just glad that little boy is alright.

8 jaunte  May 14, 2014 11:53:25am

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

Todd’s got mayo on his waist.

9 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 11:53:29am

re: #6 Kragar

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You should tell Todd that Jesus only eats kosher.

10 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 11:55:40am

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

That kid was hurt bad!

Was that dog a family pet or some stray?

The dog was starting to drag him off by the leg. That was a serious attack.

12 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 11:55:51am

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus wouldn’t eat chicken that was not kosher

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Starnes is blaspheming Jesus? Good thing he was with Bryan Fischer yesterday, or Bryan would be all over his fat ass, I bet.

13 Dr. Matt  May 14, 2014 11:56:02am

Bill is funny:

14 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 11:56:43am

Jesus today would probably be a vegan.

15 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2014 11:57:18am

When I get mad at my elder cat and yell at her the younger one will get between us and give me the stink-eye, sometimes even arching her back & puffing up her tail if I seem especially threatening. Then she follows the other cat and checks on her to make sure she’s okay, just like the cat in the video went back and checked on the boy.

16 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 11:58:16am

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17 Kragar  May 14, 2014 11:58:32am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus today would probably be a vegan.

Dominionist Jesus eats bloody rare ribeyes while doing shots of whiskey

18 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 11:58:40am

re: #15 CuriousLurker

When I get mad at my elder cat and yell at her the younger one will get between us and give me the stink-eye, sometimes even arching her back & puffing up her tail if I seem especially threatening. Then she follows the other cat and checks on her to make sure she’s okay, just like the cat in the video went back and checked on the boy.

Yup. I think if the cat were just messing with the dog, the chase would have been longer.

19 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 11:59:47am

And meanwhile there is this.

WARNING: The contents of that link may cause projectile vomiting.

20 Dr. Matt  May 14, 2014 12:00:33pm

Teabagger “logic”:

ArmaLite Inc, the official firearm of Jesus
Amway, the official pyramid scheme of Jesus
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, the official doughnut of Jesus
Fruit of the Loom, the official tighty whities of Jesus

21 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 12:00:36pm

re: #19 Pie-onist Overlord

And meanwhile there is this.

WARNING: The contents of that link may cause projectile vomiting.

22 Lidane  May 14, 2014 12:00:38pm

re: #17 Kragar

Dominionist Jesus eats bloody rare ribeyes while doing shots of whiskey

And he follows it up with a good cigar and some time shooting his AR-15.

23 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 12:01:06pm

When my kids were 2 they were playing in the yard. My neighbors pit bull ran into my yard and came after the kids barking and growling when my dog came out of nowhere and tackled the piece of shit and chased it away. After attacking my dogs in our yard a few times over the years and killing one of them Animal Contol had it put down.

24 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:02:00pm
25 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 12:02:15pm

re: #17 Kragar

Dominionist Jesus eats bloody rare ribeyes while doing shots of whiskey

I know Jesus. He’s more into chimichangas and Lonestar. Hates Dos Equis.

26 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 12:02:26pm

re: #20 Dr. Matt

Butterfly Labs, the Official Bitcoin Miner-maker of Jesus.

27 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 12:02:56pm

re: #19 Pie-onist Overlord

And meanwhile there is this.

WARNING: The contents of that link may cause projectile vomiting.

That’s a good warning, but mentioning that it’s Conor Friederpsdorf would be even more effective.

28 Lidane  May 14, 2014 12:02:57pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

I know Jesus. He’s more into chimichangas and Lonestar. Hates Dos Equis.

Wait, you know my cousin?

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29 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:03:44pm
30 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 12:04:37pm

re: #28 Lidane

Wait, you know my cousin?

///////

Su primo? Si.

31 Lidane  May 14, 2014 12:06:01pm

Right on cue:

32 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:08:04pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Riesenselbstverliebtheit. /

33 Donna Ballard  May 14, 2014 12:09:00pm

Ya know, that cat came back and looked at the child after driving the dog off… I’m not so sure he was messing with the dog after all! Cats can be amazingly loyal to their humans.

34 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 12:09:58pm

re: #32 Sergey Romanov

Riesenselbstverliebtheit. /

Ungeheurenriesenselbtverliebtheit.

35 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 12:10:51pm

re: #34 Pie-onist Overlord

Gesundheit! /

36 Donna Ballard  May 14, 2014 12:11:01pm

re: #32 Sergey Romanov

Riesenselbstverliebtheit. /

re: #34 Pie-onist Overlord

Ungeheurenriesenselbtverliebtheit.

Wait, what? Huh?

37 Targetpractice  May 14, 2014 12:12:45pm

re: #31 Lidane

Right on cue:

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It’s like watching the last, desperate attempts to keep Jim Crow in force. Though, at least this time around we’re not seeing people hit with water cannons or savaged by attack dogs.

38 FemNaziBitch  May 14, 2014 12:13:07pm

Gesundheit!

39 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 12:13:34pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Farfromenreality. (hey, it sounds kinda German /)

40 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 12:13:40pm
41 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:13:59pm

re: #34 Pie-onist Overlord

Ungeheuerriesenselbstverliebtheitsverschärfungssyndrom.

42 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 12:14:14pm

re: #33 Donna Ballard

Ya know, that cat came back and looked at the child after driving the dog off… I’m not so sure he was messing with the dog after all! Cats can be amazingly loyal to their humans.

Wasn’t going to let some lowly dog steal staff from him. Especially after time had been spent on training.

43 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 12:14:57pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

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Yikes.

44 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 12:15:57pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

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Whoa, that’s scary.

45 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 12:16:13pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

It’s like watching the last, desperate attempts to keep Jim Crow in force. Though, at least this time around we’re not seeing people hit with water cannons or savaged by attack dogs.

Yep. The anti-SSM crowd is alternating between defiance (WE’LL NEVER STOP FIGHTING!) and despair (WE’RE DOOMED!) and a little bit of I CAN’T WAIT FOR GOD TO DESTROY AMERICA! thrown in to mix things up a bit.

46 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 12:18:10pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Farfromenreality. (hey, it sounds kinda German /)

About as German as Peter Stormare being a German VW engineer.
;)

47 Donna Ballard  May 14, 2014 12:18:33pm

re: #42 Feline Fearless Leader

Wasn’t going to let some lowly dog steal staff from him. Especially after time had been spent on training.

Yeah, good staff is hard to come by these days!

48 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 12:19:38pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

Yikes.

It is insane right now. There’s also one in Camp Pendleton to the north. Trees are blowing.

49 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 12:19:59pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

That’s a good warning, but mentioning that it’s Conor Friederpsdorf would be even more effective.

That bit at the end about going back to old Snowden quotes and re-evaluating them in light of this latest revelation is fascinating.

Let’s start with the one about how leakers “should be shot in the balls”.

reason.com

50 Lidane  May 14, 2014 12:20:01pm

LOLWUT:

51 Donna Ballard  May 14, 2014 12:21:12pm

Well! I see this thread has gone sideways, see y’all later!

52 Kragar  May 14, 2014 12:21:26pm
53 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 12:21:46pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

That bit at the end about going back to old Snowden quotes and re-evaluating them in light of this latest revelation is fascinating.

Let’s start with the one about how leakers “should be shot in the balls”.

reason.com

Freederpsdorf seemed to be searching for anything to cast doubt on the Russian Spy suspicion.

54 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 12:22:18pm

re: #53 wrenchwench

Freederpsdorf seemed to be searching for anything to cast doubt on the Russian Spy suspicion.

Protesting too much.

55 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:23:54pm

This looks better grammar-wise I think:

Riesenarschlochsselbstverliebtheitsverschlimmerungssyndrom.

56 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:24:03pm

Would I be a bad blogger if I admitted I don’t really care very much that Jill Abramson was fired by the New York Times?

57 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 12:24:20pm

re: #50 Lidane

LOLWUT:

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Hey, Daubenmire:

58 Lidane  May 14, 2014 12:24:39pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Would I be a bad blogger if I admitted I don’t really care very much that Jill Abramson was fired by the New York Times?

Heroic cat vs. an NYT staff change?

Cat always wins.

59 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 12:25:00pm

re: #50 Lidane

This Daubenmire is just another confederate:

A study of the war will show that the fight was over states [sic] rights more than slavery, and an argument can be made that the wrong side won the war. Government tyranny has exploded since the battle over states’ rights was lost.

Denial of the fact that slavery was the prime cause of the US civil war is both stupid and agenda-driven.

60 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:25:47pm

re: #55 Sergey Romanov

This looks better grammar-wise I think:

Riesenarschlochsselbstverliebtheitsverschlimmerungsssyndrom.

Only German can produce a word this hideous.

61 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:27:06pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Ah, you are blind if you don’t see its beatiful expressive power! /

62 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 12:27:50pm
63 Targetpractice  May 14, 2014 12:29:09pm

re: #59 EPR-radar

This Daubenmire is just another confederate:

Denial of the fact that slavery was the prime cause of the US civil war is both stupid and agenda-driven.

Truly a sad fucking state of affairs that, over a century and a half later, descendents of a pack of treasonous dogs are telling folks that they were in the right for going to war over the right to own a fellow human being as property.

64 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 12:29:33pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

The dog was starting to drag him off by the leg. That was a serious attack.

re: #33 Donna Ballard

Ya know, that cat came back and looked at the child after driving the dog off… I’m not so sure he was messing with the dog after all! Cats can be amazingly loyal to their humans.

That dog thought he had a freaking meal. Why else try to drag him off?

65 Randall Gross  May 14, 2014 12:29:49pm

re: #50 Lidane

LOLWUT:

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That’s the “Pass the Salt” ministries guy who was originally defending the teacher who burnt the cross on the kid’s arm.

66 piratedan  May 14, 2014 12:31:09pm

re: #59 EPR-radar

talk about your revisionist history… perhaps history will reveal that in 150 years no one will have given a shit about what this delusional asshat was saying.

Is it no wonder that our red states are this fucked up… a black man was elected President. Has the national militia solely recruited black guys who are moving thru town in full uniform abducting the white women out of their homes? Has he disenfranchised middle class white dudes and divested them of their property?

Makes me sick to be a liberal democrat these days to sit back and wonder just what would happen if we truly engaged in some class warfare and truly were guilty of a tenth of what is claimed. When did these people completely lose faith in our system and government? Oh yeah, I remember, it was election night 2008.

there are times when I wonder if we would be better served with some fucking heads on some pikes…. but then again, that’s THEIR answer to everything when they’re not busy being casually cruel.

67 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 12:32:50pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Would I be a bad blogger if I admitted I don’t really care very much that Jill Abramson was fired by the New York Times?

The actions of the Feline Overlord are always more praiseworthy. All Hail Feline Overlord!

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 12:34:36pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Only German can produce a word this hideous.

You should hold your opinion until you see it presented in the form of interpretive dance.

69 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:35:01pm

I don’t like to keep cats (allergies) but that one really is a hero! Poor little boy; that bite looked horrific.

Meanwhile, Snowden sounds curiously biblical about this. Rather like a zealot, actually.

Edward Snowden wanted to inform Americans about the actions of our government and to spark a debate about mass surveillance. “My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name,” he reportedly wrote in a note to his collaborators, “and that which is done against them.”

The govt is not spying on me and if they’re keeping me safe, thanks. I think I’d know if they were spying. Google and some other companies probably are, OTOH, because when I type certain words, I get spam using that word. And I have plenty of security, although nothing I do online requires any encryption whatsoever.

70 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:35:36pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

That bit at the end about going back to old Snowden quotes and re-evaluating them in light of this latest revelation is fascinating.

Let’s start with the one about how leakers “should be shot in the balls”.

reason.com

And old people should just fuck off and die because they don’t deserve SS.

71 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 12:36:20pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

You should hold your opinion until you see it presented in the form of interpretive dance.

Youtube Video

72 b.d.  May 14, 2014 12:36:23pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Would I be a bad blogger if I admitted I don’t really care very much that Jill Abramson was fired by the New York Times?

As a blogger I think it is your duty to care very deeply about everything and to be offended a lot.

//

73 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 12:37:46pm
74 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 12:38:01pm

re: #72 b.d.

As a blogger I think it is your duty to care very deeply about everything and to be offended a lot.

//

If people stopped being offended the markets for fainting couches and clutching pearls would collapse. Think of The Market!!!
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75 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:39:19pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, it does look like the 4 giant assholes dance. Fits. ;)

76 b.d.  May 14, 2014 12:40:04pm

re: #74 Feline Fearless Leader

If people stopped being offended the markets for fainting couches and clutching pearls would collapse. Think of The Market!!!
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How dare you say that!!! You act like the only person who matters at the New York Times is Will Shortz!!!

wait a second…….

//

77 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 12:40:30pm

Okay maybe some of you have heard of the muted outrage over license plate scanning and tracking by Police? This is the kind of thing that points out how bad it goes if you don’t keep thinking humans in the loop.

78 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:40:51pm
79 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 12:42:07pm

re: #66 piratedan

talk about your revisionist history… perhaps history will reveal that in 150 years no one will have given a shit about what this delusional asshat was saying.

Is it no wonder that our red states are this fucked up… a black man was elected President. Has the national militia solely recruited black guys who are moving thru town in full uniform abducting the white women out of their homes? Has he disenfranchised middle class white dudes and divested them of their property?

Makes me sick to be a liberal democrat these days to sit back and wonder just what would happen if we truly engaged in some class warfare and truly were guilty of a tenth of what is claimed. When did these people completely lose faith in our system and government? Oh yeah, I remember, it was election night 2008.

there are times when I wonder if we would be better served with some fucking heads on some pikes…. but then again, that’s THEIR answer to everything when they’re not busy being casually cruel.

The essential rot in US conservatism goes back decades. Their hate for FDR knew no bounds, and conservative orthodoxy of the times was often to refer to him as “that man”, his name being unmentionable.

Carefully edited out of the conservative version of US history is the fact that continuation of conservative policy of doing diddly-squat about the Great Depression would most likely have led to some kind of extremist revolution in the US that would have ended most of the ideals the conservatives claim to hold dear.

80 piratedan  May 14, 2014 12:42:09pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe that is from the Book of Rove, paragraph two, line six, nestled in there with “render under Ceasar until it hurts and then praise him for he is magnanimous”…

81 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:42:16pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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All of GG’s old friends will look him up now that the $$$ is flowing in?

82 Kragar  May 14, 2014 12:44:55pm

re: #59 EPR-radar

This Daubenmire is just another confederate:

Denial of the fact that slavery was the prime cause of the US civil war is both stupid and agenda-driven.

The Southern States were totally in favor of big government when it meant Federal support of run away slave laws

83 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:45:04pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

The essential rot in US conservatism goes back decades. Their hate for FDR knew no bounds, and conservative orthodoxy of the times was often to refer to him as “that man”, his name being unmentionable.

Carefully edited out of the conservative version of US history is the fact that continuation of conservative policy of doing diddly-squat about the Great Depression would most likely have led to some kind of extremist revolution in the US that would have ended most of the ideals the conservatives claim to hold dear.

I had a great aunt who had a photo of FDR on her living room wall until the day she died. And she was a southerner. : ) She was old enough to have lived through the depression as a working adult (when she could get work).

84 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:50:22pm

I’m taking bets on how long Pierre is going to put up with GG’s shit? I mean, isn’t GG the editor in chief over there at “First Look” or “The Intercept” or whatever?

Or has Omidyar just given him leave to do whatever he pleases?

85 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 12:51:27pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

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86 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 12:52:57pm

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

“accidents like these happen all the time”

wtf?

87 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:53:17pm

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

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No, they don’t.

The number of dead in mine collapse in western Turkey has reached 274, making it the country’s worst mining disaster - @SkyNewsBreak
see original on twitter.com

88 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 12:54:02pm

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

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Erdoᇺn has a knack for saying precisely the wrong thing at the wrong time. GOHMERT! has nothing on him.

89 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:56:35pm

10K homes and businesses evacuated.

90 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:58:05pm

Betting Jill Abramson is already negotiating the book deal. Hey, maybe it will be a New York Times bestseller.

91 Kragar  May 14, 2014 12:58:28pm

Republican “rising star” Ben Sasse is predicted to win the Senate seat being vacated by Republican Mike Johanns in November by a wide margin, as Nebraska is a solid red state. On his official campaign website, Sasse claims that he “believes that our right to the free exercise of religion is co-equal to our right to life. This is not a negotiable issue. Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.”

92 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 12:59:26pm
93 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 12:59:33pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Betting Jill Abramson is already negotiating the book deal. Hey, maybe it will be a New York Times bestseller.

She can go with this entertainment agency which represents GG.

paradigmagency.com

94 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:01:07pm

re: #91 Kragar

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Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.”

We’ll see how far that goes if some extremist decides he wants to honor-kill his teenage daughter for violating his religious beliefs, or when some nutty cultists demand BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!

Lemme guess…….it only applies to Christians, right?

*smh*

95 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 1:01:27pm

Dang it! I’m busy working away and had the previous thread open and commenting in it and didn’t realize I was on an empty bus going nowhere!!!

Anyway, I had posted this comment regarding the protective cat video:

Bad ass cat! He didn’t even hesitate to go in claws first. And the cat kept checking to see where the dog ran off.

Was that an American Bull Dog (Pit Bull)? I know people have nice things to say about many of them, but that reminds me of an attack out in front of my house about a year ago.

A guy was walking his Pit up the street and my next door neighbor was out with his little French Bulldog. My neighbor saw the Pit and asked the guy if he was cool. The pit owner said yeah, not a problem.

Just that quick, the Pit saw the French and went right after the little guy. The Pit bit into the back of the French and picked it up and was about to shake it in his teeth. The owner had to kick the shit out of the Pit to get him to drop the French.

My neighbor was way pissed…but had no time to argue, he grabbed his little dog and jumped in his car to take him to a ‘vet about a mile away. Took some stitches, but his dog was okay overall.

Scary shit how fast it all happened.

96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 14, 2014 1:01:46pm

re: #91 Kragar

Sasse claims that he “believes that our right to the free exercise of the Christian religion is co-equal to our right to life. This is not a negotiable issue. Government cannot force citizens to violate their Christian beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Christian Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.

hidden message highlighted.

97 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:02:13pm

re: #91 Kragar

Suppose I claim my religious beliefs justify gunning down obnoxious Republicans on sight?

Mr. Conservative hero Ben Sasse would certainly have problems with that, which means he is just as much of an unprincipled lying hack as the rest of the conservative killer clown show.

98 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 1:02:19pm

re: #91 Kragar

Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances

tell it to the mormons

99 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:02:26pm

re: #94 Dr Lizardo

We’ll see how far that goes if some extremist decides he wants to honor-kill his teenage daughter for violating his religious beliefs, or when some nutty cultists demand BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!

Lemme guess…….it only applies to Christians, right?

*smh*

“Killing abortionists and tax collectors are vital to my religious beliefs.”
“Very well. Case dismissed.”

100 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 1:03:14pm
101 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:04:06pm

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Now, which of the approximately 8,000 varieties of Christianity is the one true version to be mandated by the State?

These dipshits really do refuse to think at all beyond ‘us vs. them’ side choosing.

102 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 1:04:18pm

re: #99 Kragar

“Killing abortionists and tax collectors are vital to my religious beliefs.”
“Very well. Case dismissed.”

Or, in Roy Moore’s case: “Give him a freaking medal!”

103 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:04:34pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

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We have to drive up that way Saturday for my kid’s school Disneyland trip. I really hope it doesn’t get cancelled for the kids’ sake.

104 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:04:47pm

re: #99 Kragar

“Killing abortionists and tax collectors are vital to my religious beliefs.”
“Very well. Case dismissed.”

“Your Honor, Quetzlcoatl demands the blood of Christians!”
“Case dismissed.”

105 Eventual Carrion  May 14, 2014 1:04:58pm

re: #6 Kragar

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Four out of Five Son’s of God smoke Tareyton and would rather fight than switch.

106 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 1:05:13pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

Fire season is now year-round in parts of the country. California is especially vulnerable with the ongoing drought.

107 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 1:05:26pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

I think that’s getting a bit like a torch I run at work… Damn got BIL/SIL right about there.

108 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 14, 2014 1:05:33pm

re: #101 EPR-radar

Now, which of the approximately 8,000 varieties of Christianity is the one true version to be mandated by the State?

The true one, namely theirs. Why do you ask these silly questions?

/

109 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 1:05:54pm

re: #101 EPR-radar

Now, which of the approximately 8,000 varieties of Christianity is the one true version to be mandated by the State?

These dipshits really do refuse to think at all beyond ‘us vs. them’ side choosing.

Mine. And it’s Judaism. My version. /

110 Sionainn  May 14, 2014 1:06:10pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER PATRIOTIC GRIFTER. BUY YOUR OFFICIAL TEA PARTY BOBBLEHEAD FOR ONLY $23!

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Looks like Ted Danson.

111 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 1:06:32pm
112 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:06:38pm

re: #101 EPR-radar

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said “Stop! don’t do it!”

“Why shouldn’t I?” he said. I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”

He said, “Like what?” I said, “Well…are you religious or atheist?”

He said, “Religious.” I said, “Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?”

He said, “Christian.” I said, “Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?”

He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?”

He said, “Baptist!” I said, “Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?”

He said, “Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?”

He said,”Reformed Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?”

He said, “Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!” I said, “Die, heretic scum”, and pushed him off.

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:08:05pm
114 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:08:27pm

re: #112 Kragar

Heh.

Here’s one of my favorites.

rubbersuitstudios.com

115 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 1:08:44pm
116 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:10:25pm

re: #112 Kragar

All joking aside, enlightenment principles of separation of church and state gained favor in a Europe that had grown weary of endless sectarian bloodshed in the wars of the Reformation.

A return to the pleasures of the thirty years war etc. is precisely what the effect of the intended policies of the American Taliban would be.

117 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:11:41pm

re: #116 EPR-radar

All joking aside, enlightenment principles of separation of church and state gained favor in a Europe that had grown weary of endless sectarian bloodshed in the wars of the Reformation.

A return to the pleasures of the thirty years war etc. is precisely what the effect of the intended policies of the American Taliban would be.

My religious beliefs call for law enforcement to deal with these dangerous loons.

118 Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2014 1:12:03pm

Behold, wingnuts, your father’s GOP:

Confirmed authentic

119 Lidane  May 14, 2014 1:12:38pm

re: #91 Kragar

On his official campaign website, Sasse claims that he “believes that our right to the free exercise of religion is co-equal to our right to life. This is not a negotiable issue. Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.”

So basically, he supports the right of domestic terrorists to operate at will as long as they do it for Christian reasons. Good to know.

120 The Awkward Guy  May 14, 2014 1:13:06pm

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel

Behold, wingnuts, your father’s GOP:
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Confirmed authentic

TEH SNOPES IS TEH SOROS LIIIEEEESSS!!!!11TY

121 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 1:13:07pm

Wow. She must have had a hellacious fight with Pinch.

122 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 1:14:45pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

OK, I looked her up in wiki. Can anyone tell me in a coupla words why she was fired and why anyone should care?

123 jaunte  May 14, 2014 1:15:07pm

Report Highlights Child Labor On US Tobacco Farms

A report released Wednesday by Human Rights Watch claims that children as young as 7 are sometimes working long hours in fields harvesting nicotine- and pesticide-laced tobacco leaves under sometimes hazardous conditions. Most of what the group documented is legal, but it wants cigarette makers to push for safety on farms from which they buy tobacco.

Human Rights Watch details findings from interviews with more than 140 children working on farms in North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia, where a majority of the country’s tobacco is grown.

The 138-page report, “Tobacco’s Hidden Children: Hazardous Child Labor in US Tobacco Farming,” documents conditions for children working on tobacco farms in four states where 90 percent of US tobacco is grown: North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia. Children reported vomiting, nausea, headaches, and dizziness while working on tobacco farms, all symptoms consistent with acute nicotine poisoning. Many also said they worked long hours without overtime pay, often in extreme heat without shade or sufficient breaks, and wore no, or inadequate, protective gear.

hrw.org

Waiting for the RWNJ child labor cheerleaders to comment.

124 jaunte  May 14, 2014 1:16:56pm
Lack of Protection Under US Law
Under US labor law, children working in agriculture can work longer hours, at younger ages, and in more hazardous conditions than children in any other industry. Children as young as 12 can be hired for unlimited hours outside of school hours on a farm of any size with parental permission, and there is no minimum age for children to work on small farms.
125 Lidane  May 14, 2014 1:17:36pm

re: #123 jaunte

Report Highlights Child Labor On US Tobacco Farms

How many of those kids are migrant farm workers and/or undocumented?

Waiting for the RWNJ child labor cheerleaders to comment.

If they’re undocumented, expect the RWNJs to scream for deportation.

If they’re white kids, expect the RWNJs to say that more kids should work the fields because it builds character.

126 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:18:22pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Here’s one of my favorites.

rubbersuitstudios.com

“We all know that any emotional bias — irrespective of truth or falsity — can be implanted by suggestion in the emotions of the young, hence the inherited traditions of an orthodox community are absolutely without evidential value…. If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their unbending quest for truth, irrespective of artificial backgrounds or practical consequences. With such an honest and inflexible openness to evidence, they could not fail to receive any real truth which might be manifesting itself around them. The fact that religionists do not follow this honourable course, but cheat at their game by invoking juvenile quasi-hypnosis, is enough to destroy their pretensions in my eyes even if their absurdity were not manifest in every other direction.”

― H.P. Lovecraft, Against Religion: The Atheist Writings of H.P. Lovecraft

“As for the Republicans — how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical ‘American heritage’…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.”

― H.P. Lovecraft

127 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 1:19:26pm

Heard a helicopter and looked out the window. Two Huey Cobra attack copters in USMC markings buzzed by Center City and went their way up the Schuylkill River a couple of hundred feet up.

128 Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2014 1:21:25pm

re: #127 Feline Fearless Leader

Heard a helicopter and looked out the window. Two Huey Cobra attack copters in USMC markings buzzed by Center City and went their way up the Schuylkill River a couple of hundred feet up.

Is there perhaps a Tea Party rally or a militia muster going on in that area?

129 sagehen  May 14, 2014 1:22:04pm

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel

Behold, wingnuts, your father’s GOP:
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Confirmed authentic

That’s my 4th favorite Eisenhower quote.

Here’s my fave:

This world in arms in not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

(april 1953, speech to the American Society of Newspaper Editors)

130 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 1:22:59pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

OK, I looked her up in wiki. Can anyone tell me in a coupla words why she was fired and why anyone should care?

The only thing really interesting about her being fired is how weirdly secretive the NYT management is being.

Oh yeah, that’ll work.

131 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:23:24pm

re: #123 jaunte

VB has that paged.

132 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 1:23:35pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Is there perhaps a Tea Party rally or a militia muster going on in that area?

Not that I know of. I see one or two doing maneuvers in the Philly area every month or so. Not sure where they’re operating from, probably somewhere over in NJ.

I expect they have a standard run to navigate to Philadelphia, follow the Schuylkill to some point, then point-to-point to another landmark, and so on.

133 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:23:37pm

re: #126 Kragar

We should note that Lovecraft was writing of Republicans of an earlier era, whose main derangement was simply the approval of laissez-faire economics.

Present day Republicans have added to that core a rich variety of cranks resentful of what the modern US is, including an utterly destructive preferential accumulation of racists and confederates as a result of the southern strategy.

134 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:24:01pm

re: #126 Kragar

He had such a way with words.

If someone said the latter (especially) to some of the Tea Party folk, I can’t help but think they’d be responding QUIT YER TALKIN’ WITH THEM BIG THREE-DOLLAR WORDS!.

Sarah Palin would presumably respond with her latest serving of word salad.

135 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:24:59pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

The only thing really interesting about her being fired is how weirdly secretive the NYT management is being.

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Oh yeah, that’ll work.

“Just walk away and we’ll give you safe passage through the wastelands.”

136 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 1:25:08pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

OK, I looked her up in wiki. Can anyone tell me in a coupla words why she was fired and why anyone should care?

Well, I don’t care, but Sulzberger said…

New York Times: Publisher Arthur Sulzberger replaced Jill Abramson to improve newsroom management - @adage
Read more on adage.com

ETA better link.

137 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:26:24pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

“Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity.”

- H. P. Lovecraft

138 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:26:25pm

Slate is blurring the lines between content and advertising
That BBC link on Slate is really an ad

The sidebar on the far right mixes Slate content with links to other sites, including Time, the BBC, and The Week, as well as in-house links to the new Slate Plus and to sister site The Root. All of the “refers” look alike, though the external links include gray text up top that says “From Time” or “From Computer World.” If you didn’t know better, you might think Slate is doing readers a service with “good” aggregation: linking to stories at other sites it thinks you should read. But Slate is actually getting paid for all those links, and they aren’t curated by Slate but by a marketing company called Outbrain. -

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:28:14pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Slate is blurring the lines between content and advertising
That BBC link on Slate is really an ad

Why do you hate capitalism??!!??

140 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:28:42pm

re: #137 Kragar

“Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity.”

- H. P. Lovecraft

Heh. Pretty much perfectly describes every fundie I’ve ever had the displeasure of coming across.

141 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 1:30:12pm
142 Khal Wimpo  May 14, 2014 1:31:17pm

The latter parts of this video, showing the gouges in the child’s leg are really alarming. That dog went off, and was doing real harm to the child, who wasn’t provoking/taunting it in any way.

Hope the owners of that unruly beast have their homeowner’s insurance paid up. And that the kitteh gets tuna, a new kitty condo and a special new playmate that he can train, the better to tag-team those yard interlopers.

143 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 14, 2014 1:31:23pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Slate is blurring the lines between content and advertising
That BBC link on Slate is really an ad

I gave up on reading Slate even before they stopped carrying Doonesbury.

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:31:23pm

oh my. I’m looking for a link…

145 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:31:34pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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What happens next will astound you.

146 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:33:03pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh my. I’m looking for a link…

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147 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:33:36pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh my. I’m looking for a link…

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hahahaha!!!

Ken Ham Fires Back at Pat Robertson: ‘Really Sad’ He’s ‘So Misinformed’ About Creationism

From Ham’s FB page:

This is really sad… Pat Robertson is so misinformed and deceived. Sad that so many will believe him (who is neither a scientist, nor a Bible scholar rather than open their Bibles and see that evolution and millions of years are totally incompatible with the first 11 chapters of Genesis and rather than think for themselves and check out creationist web sites like Answers in Genesis.

148 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:33:50pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

OK, I looked her up in wiki. Can anyone tell me in a coupla words why she was fired and why anyone should care?

politico.com

Her accomplishments aside, Abramson’s tenure was marred by disagreements with Times CEO Mark Thompson, who took an unprecedently hands-on approach to managing the paper’s editorial resources.

Abramson also suffered from perceptions among staff that she was condescending and combative. Sources at the Times told POLITICO last year that Abramson had become a source of widespread frustration and anxiety within the newsroom, and described her as stubborn and condescending. Such criticisms were widely criticized as sexist.

Sounds like some general differences and clashing management styles.

149 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:34:40pm

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I gave up on reading Slate even before they stopped carrying Doonesbury.

I look at slate sometimes but not nearly as much as I used to.

150 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:35:11pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why do you hate capitalism??!!??

lol

151 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 1:37:36pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaha!!!

Ken Ham Fires Back at Pat Robertson: ‘Really Sad’ He’s ‘So Misinformed’ About Creationism

From Ham’s FB page:

AiG has been attacking PR for years (at least a decade) because of his anti-YEC stance.

152 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 1:38:36pm

re: #50 Lidane

LOLWUT:

Daubenmire: Gettysburg Address should have honored the “brave Confederate soldiers fighting against big-government”

Oh god…not Dave Daubenmire. Another stain on central Ohio. I wish he would just shut the hell up and go away. He tried to get a coaching job earlier this year over in Hebron Ohio…a small farm community east of Columbus and the school board voted 3-2 to not hire him. If a god-botherer isn’t wanted in Hebron he has major problems. It is an older community and very conservative.

Here is a Columbus Dispatch article about him being rejected.

Lakewood school board won’t hire Daubenmire as football coach

-cut-

Daubenmire, 61, has been a provocative figure since 1997 when, as coach of London High School, complaints about him praying with the football team prompted the American Civil Liberties Union to sue the district.

That suit was settled out of court in 1999, and Daubenmire was given another one-year coaching contract with the promise that he’d stop praying with his players. But in early 2000, after leading his team to an undefeated season, he resigned.

Almost immediately, Daubenmire started Pass the Salt Ministries, and later another group, Minutemen United, drawing both followers and critics with his conservative Christian views.

In 2007, Minutemen United drew headlines for interrupting services at churches in Granville and Columbus that welcomed gay members.

He often speaks of manhood and the “sissification” of today’s boys.

In a video posted last summer, he said the women’s movement came along “because the men withdrew and ran back in the closet and hid behind their wives’ skirts.”

Many of those things were brought up last night in Lakewood High’s gym as 22 members of an audience that exceeded 100 stood to speak to the board. Of those impassioned speakers, nine, including Elyzabeth Holford, the executive director of Equality Ohio, urged the board to vote no.

-cut-

153 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:38:42pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hot sweaty fundie on fundie action!

154 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:39:05pm

Well, looks like I might not be able to sign up for Obamacare this year
Cover Oregon aftermath: state faces new deadline, and $35-million price tag may be conservative.

With the next open enrollment for health coverage only months away, Oregon’s decision to hook up to the federal insurance exchange for an estimated $5 million solves only part of the state’s dilemma.

The remaining task could be tougher — and more expensive — than expected. The ballpark estimated cost for what Oregon still has to do is another $35 million, and officials acknowledge that figure could be conservative.

Not only that, but they aren’t sure the work left to be done- to help Oregon Health Plan applicants — can be completed in time for Nov. 15, when open enrollment begins again.

They fucked up so bad they’re already worrying about not figuring it out by November? Ugh

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:40:14pm
157 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 1:41:01pm
Oregon’s $35-million estimate for Medicaid-related software development — actually a range between $18 and $53 million— gives a window into how challenging the job ahead could be. The price tag is the same amount that Texas spent to build a similar system from scratch.

Idiots

158 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 1:41:23pm
159 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:41:32pm

Meanwhile, here in Kentucky:

160 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:41:50pm

re: #146 Kragar

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Let’s have a little fun with words exercise!

From the article:

“Pat Robertson (insert name here) illustrates one of the biggest problems we have today in the church Islam—people like Robertson (insert name here) compromise the Word of God with the pagan ideas of fallible men! That’s why a big part of the AiG ministry da’wah outreach we do is to call the church imams and culture the Ummah back to the authority of the Word. Pat Robertson (insert name here) is not upholding the Word of God with his ridiculous statements — he is undermining the authority of the Word. And any attack on the WORD is an attack on the person of Jesus Christ Qur’an, who which IS THE WORD!”

Someone please explain how Ken Ham is any discernibly different from a fundamentalist Islamic preacher. Take your time; I can wait.

161 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 1:43:31pm
162 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:44:05pm

re: #156 Sergey Romanov

answersingenesis.org
answersingenesis.org

yes, I’m all too familiar with Ken Ham, AiG and that stupid Ark project.
Good thing that eastern Kentucky is absolutely gorgeous to make up for the imported lunatics.

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:45:36pm

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

Let’s have a little fun with words exercise!

From the article:

“Pat Robertson (insert name here) illustrates one of the biggest problems we have today in the church Islam—people like Robertson (insert name here) compromise the Word of God with the pagan ideas of fallible men! That’s why a big part of the AiG ministry da’wah outreach we do is to call the church imams and culture the Ummah back to the authority of the Word. Pat Robertson (insert name here) is not upholding the Word of God with his ridiculous statements — he is undermining the authority of the Word. And any attack on the WORD is an attack on the person of Jesus Christ Qur’an, who which IS THE WORD!”

Someone please explain how Ken Ham is any discernibly different from a fundamentalist Islamic preacher. Take your time; I can wait.

Just change “Islam” to “Methodist”. In Kentucky it’s pretty much the same thing.

164 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:45:54pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just change “Islam” to “Methodist”. In Kentucky it’s pretty much the same thing.

LOLOL

165 Kragar  May 14, 2014 1:46:05pm

Update to the original story

As if being beaten up by a cat wasn’t bad enough, TMZ has learned … the dog was picked up by animal control yesterday and the decision has been made to put it to sleep.

Sources tell us … the dog was aggressive even after it was captured and officials decided it was in the best interest for everyone involved to euthanize the canine.

166 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 1:46:29pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not about AiG in general. The links lead to two articles from 2002 and 2003 with attacks on Robertson.

167 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 1:47:21pm

God, that fire out in Cali looks bad.

Is this sort of unprecedented as far as the time of the season? I seem to remember the ‘fire season’ is in later summer going into the fall.

Damn, I feel real bad for the Californians. I wish I could gather up some of the huge rains that have been hitting Ohio in the last week and send them out there to help out.

168 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 1:47:23pm

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

Alas, this call for creationist lizards is unlikely to be answered, because creationist lizards tend to have other and more offensive habits that get them banned.

Meanwhile, sensible people of all stripes can agree that the ideological blinders of Ken Ham and of a radical Islamist are essentially the same.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:47:46pm

re: #166 Sergey Romanov

It’s not about AiG in general. The links lead to two articles from 2002 and 2003 with attacks on Robertson.

Ken Ham is still an imported lunatic.
And a grifter; we’re still waiting to hear him give details on his bogus bond offering for the Ark project.

170 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:49:15pm

Weather is getting cranky. This is right across the river from me. Fortunately, it’s heading north.

171 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 1:49:16pm

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL

Or “Unitarian” if you want to make even more Christian sects happy.
:p

172 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 1:49:43pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sort of feel sympathy for the CMI guys - even though they are also lying YECs. But Ham basically fleeced them, his friends and partners of many years.

173 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 1:50:47pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

Alas, this call for creationist lizards is unlikely to be answered, because creationist lizards tend to have other and more offensive habits that get them banned.

Meanwhile, sensible people of all stripes can agree that the ideological blinders of Ken Ham and of a radical Islamist are essentially the same.

Exclusivists and not inclusivists. Which explains why they form such interesting Venn diagrams.

174 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 1:51:10pm

Oh, come on now.

Academics at the University of Rostock in Germany approve plan to to give NSA leaker Edward Snowden an honorary doctorate - @AP
Read more on washingtonpost.com

Pinheads.

ETA:

“Members of the philosophy faculty voted 20 in favor, one against and one abstention to award the title in recognition of the “outstanding academic achievement” Snowden made by exposing surveillance practices in the digital age.

“Wednesday’s decision can still be blocked on procedural grounds by the rector of the 600-year-old university.

“Snowden enjoys strong public support in Germany, where lawmakers want to question him for a probe into the NSA’s activities. On Monday, German hacking group Chaos Computer Club offered him honorary membership and a five-figure contribution to his legal costs.”

175 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:51:22pm

yikes!

176 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 1:51:42pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just change “Islam” to “Methodist”. In Kentucky it’s pretty much the same thing.

Thought they just hung out with the Low Church Episcopalians? ;)

177 b.d.  May 14, 2014 1:52:33pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does it have any sharks in it?

178 Feline Fearless Leader  May 14, 2014 1:52:36pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

Alas, this call for creationist lizards is unlikely to be answered, because creationist lizards tend to have other and more offensive habits that get them banned.

Meanwhile, sensible people of all stripes can agree that the ideological blinders of Ken Ham and of a radical Islamist are essentially the same.

And I’m pretty sure that I don’t want to hear what the creationist lizard position on chameleons are. I’m sure it’s not good.

179 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 1:53:21pm

re: #165 Kragar

Update to the original story

Sounds like it was poorly socialized and trained. I’m sorry for it to a certain degree, but one look at the kid’s injuries makes me shrug and wish the cat did more damage.

180 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 1:53:40pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

Alas, this call for creationist lizards is unlikely to be answered, because creationist lizards tend to have other and more offensive habits that get them banned.

Meanwhile, sensible people of all stripes can agree that the ideological blinders of Ken Ham and of a radical Islamist are essentially the same.

One of the ironies is that there are very few YEC’s in Islam; most Muslims adhere to the Earth being several billion years old. There are of course a large number of Creationists within Islam, but that runs the gamut from outright Creationism to Intelligent Design, and more than a few Muslims accept evolution - and quite a few in that camp would view God as the ‘ultimate scientist’, essentially - a little tinkering here and there, to get everything absolutely right. But YEC is viewed as pretty outlandish by the majority of Muslims.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 1:54:07pm

re: #176 William Barnett-Lewis

Thought they just hung out with the Low Church Episcopalians? ;)

I have it on very good authority from the area fundies (and there are a LOT of them) that ALL Methodists are going straight to hell when they die.
This declaration is always followed by a very sad, yet pious, shake of the head and a fervent amen.

182 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 1:56:54pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Weather is getting cranky. This is right across the river from me. Fortunately, it’s heading north.

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Weather is crazy in Ohio today. Like right now the sun is out, it is humid as all get out. An hour ago it was cloudy and threatening looking. The local weather said this afternoon would be a bumpy ride and watch out for warnings.

Last night, northern Ohio had tornado warnings.

It appears this whole year is going to be nuts.

183 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 1:56:57pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have it on very good authority from the area fundies (and there are a LOT of them) that ALL Methodists are going straight to hell when they die.
This declaration is always followed by a very sad, yet pious, shake of the head and a fervent amen.

I always wonder what the reaction people like that will have when they find themselves with the goats instead of the sheep… smh.

184 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 1:57:04pm

And more religious conflict.

3 die as police fire on rioters in Hyderabad, India, following clashes between Sikhs and Muslims, authorities say - @timesofindia
Read more on indiatimes.com

185 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 1:58:49pm

re: #176 William Barnett-Lewis

BTW talking from earlier about the USPO?

Look at the local office Yelp.
Yeesh.

186 Eventual Carrion  May 14, 2014 1:58:58pm

re: #177 b.d.

Does it have any sharks in it?

Fire ants!

187 The Ghost of a Flea  May 14, 2014 1:59:09pm

re: #179 William Barnett-Lewis

Sounds like it was poorly socialized and trained. I’m sorry for it to a certain degree, but one look at the kid’s injuries makes me shrug and wish the cat did more damage.

Throw the cat at the person who neglected that dog.

188 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 2:00:52pm

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

One of the ironies is that there are very few YEC’s in Islam; most Muslims adhere to the Earth being several billion years old. There are of course a large number of Creationists within Islam, but that runs the gamut from outright Creationism to Intelligent Design, and more than a few Muslims accept evolution - and quite a few in that camp would view God as the ‘ultimate scientist’, essentially - a little tinkering here and there, to get everything absolutely right. But YEC is viewed as pretty outlandish by the majority of Muslims.

Young earth creationism is one of those things that is so aggressively stupid that US-style know-nothingism seems to be an essential ingredient.

A real example of American exceptionalism.

189 Mattand  May 14, 2014 2:01:40pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Truly a sad fucking state of affairs that, over a century and a half later, descendents of a pack of treasonous dogs are telling folks that they were in the right for going to war over the right to own a fellow human being as property.

I pretty much think this when I see the Stars and Bars.

190 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2014 2:02:05pm

LOLOLOLOL, so much for the death of free speech we keep hearing about:

Um, No, Commencement Protests Aren’t Unique To The Millennial Generation

In a particularly glib column for The Daily Beast, Olivia Nuzzi wrote that her fellow millennials need to “STFU” and listen to perspectives that differ from their own. […]

If only Nuzzi had been around to scold Vassar College’s class of 1980, which chased out conservative icon William Buckley Jr. as its commencement speaker. Or the class of 1987 at Lafayette College, which pressured former UN ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick from delivering a speech and receiving an honorary degree.

The protests aren’t even limited to college students, campus “leftists” or, for that matter, graduation ceremonies. The University of Nebraska-Lincoln nixed a planned speech in the fall of 2008 by Weather Underground co-founder Bill Ayers after criticism from conservative bloggers and the state’s Republican governor.

Pro-life activists and other conservative Catholics vocally objected to President Obama’s commencement address at Notre Dame in 2009. John D’Arcy, the late Fort Wayne-South Bend Bishop, boycotted the school’s commencement that year, just as he did in 1992 when Notre Dame honored former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY).[…]

191 darthstar  May 14, 2014 2:02:38pm

Just caught the last five minutes of GG’s lovefest with Jake Tapper. Tapper lets GG talk - and talk he does…faster and with big words that make him sound super smart, but in the end, he’s basically saying absolutely nothing, except that his “biggest scoop” is yet to come in a few weeks (soon to be outdone by the next biggest scoop).

Tapper, of course, let him speak uninterrupted, as is customary in any GG interview.

192 Mattand  May 14, 2014 2:05:31pm

re: #190 CuriousLurker

LOLOLOLOL, so much for the death of free speech we keep hearing about:

I can feel a libertarian-generated “See! I told you guys! Free speech has been under attack for decades now!” concern trolling being posted any second now..

193 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 2:08:34pm

I have one thing to say as I log out for awhile.

Go to hell Mark Rubio you fucking anti-science blockhead!!!

See ya’ later.

194 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 2:09:40pm

Dean Baquet presiding over his first page 1 meeting as executive editor of the New York Times.

instagram.com

195 HappyWarrior  May 14, 2014 2:11:10pm

re: #190 CuriousLurker

LOLOLOLOL, so much for the death of free speech we keep hearing about:

Anything to spit on the Millenial generation. Tired of hypocrisy from older generations(Not saying everyone of older generation thinks that way) but as the article points out, opposing commencement speakers is nothing new and not unique to the left either. Honestly, I wouldn’t have protested had my university chosen Dr. Rice but I don’t begrudge someone for making their displeasure known either.

196 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 2:13:27pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

Young earth creationism is one of those things that is so aggressively stupid that US-style know-nothingism seems to be an essential ingredient.

A real example of American exceptionalism.

Boko Haram would very likely fall into the category of Muslim YEC’s, but they’re an anomaly.

197 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 2:14:24pm

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

I’ve read about Muslim flat-earthers once - have you heard of them?

198 Mattand  May 14, 2014 2:14:39pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Anything to spit on the Millenial generation. Tired of hypocrisy from older generations(Not saying everyone of older generation things that way) but as the article points out, opposing commencement speakers is nothing new and not unique to the left either. Honestly, I wouldn’t have protested had my university chosen Dr. Rice but I don’t begrudge someone for making their displeasure known either.

Believe me, I feel your pain. I remember all of the condescending articles Baby Boomers were writing about Gen X 20 years ago. The same people who were always complaining about the WW2 generation bashing them.

It’s amazing how quickly a generation can forget the past.

199 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 2:15:26pm

re: #197 Sergey Romanov

I’ve read about Muslim flat-earthers once - have you heard of them?

Boko Haram has asserted that the Earth is indeed flat.

200 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 2:16:28pm

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

Ouch. That was a lucky coincidence then. I’ve heard about some clerics releasing fatwas and such.

201 HappyWarrior  May 14, 2014 2:17:28pm

re: #198 Mattand

Believe me, I feel your pain. I remember all of the condescending articles Baby Boomers were writing about Gen X 20 years ago. The same people who were always complaining about the WW2 generation bashing them.

It’s amazing how quickly a generation can forget the past.

Really. I mean it’s just annoying because as you correctly point out every older generation complains about the younger current one and I have no illusions that Gen-Y will complain about our generation’s kids as they get older. It’s just annoying because this generation while it has flaws I think has a lot of strengths that outweigh them.

202 HappyWarrior  May 14, 2014 2:19:05pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

Young earth creationism is one of those things that is so aggressively stupid that US-style know-nothingism seems to be an essential ingredient.

A real example of American exceptionalism.

Young-Earthers do seem to me to be uniquely American and fundamentalist in background. Even some of the most conservative Catholics I knew growing up found the idea of the earth being 5000 years old laughable. But that’s fundamentalism in a nutshell for you-ignore all evidence that contradicts the word for word of the Bible.

203 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 2:19:51pm

Who said this?

“The shock of this initial period [after the first revelations] will provide the support needed to build a more equal internet, but this will not work to the advantage of the average person unless science outpaces law. By understanding the mechanisms through which our privacy is violated, we can win here. We can guarantee for all people equal protection against unreasonable search through universal laws, but only if the technical community is willing to face the threat and commit to implementing over-engineered solutions. In the end, we must enforce a principle whereby the only way the powerful may enjoy privacy is when it is the same kind shared by the ordinary: one enforced by the laws of nature, rather than the policies of man. “

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 2:19:51pm

this can’t be good.

205 Kragar  May 14, 2014 2:23:12pm

Missouri House Speaker Tim Jones (R) told a local radio station that he and his colleagues are focusing on restricting abortion in order to preserve the taxpaying population. “[If] we were to choose the opposite extreme and the state were not to choose to protect life, well eventually the state would run out of citizens, it would run out of taxpayers, and the state would cease to exist,” he said.

206 Mattand  May 14, 2014 2:25:28pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Really. I mean it’s just annoying because as you correctly point out every older generation complains about the younger current one and I have no illusions that Gen-Y will complain about our generation’s kids as they get older. It’s just annoying because this generation while it has flaws I think has a lot of strengths that outweigh them.

There always seems to be one cultural touchstone that the younger gen has to deal with that the older one never did and doesn’t quite get. For us (Gen X), I think AIDS was one.

For you guys, the whole “Your mistakes are on the internet forever” is another. All it takes is one jackass with a grudge to make someone’s life a living hell for years.

207 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 2:32:21pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

this can’t be good.

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It’s not but I’d be far and away more worried if that were oil or gas storage near a conventional plant. Even if it were running at full power. I think it was shut down though. Edison got screwed royally by Mitsubishi heavy, which of course will likely be passed on in increased rates.

208 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 2:33:50pm

What just happened?

209 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 2:34:31pm

You know that thing where you have a typo in an SQL query and forget to run an EXPLAIN before trying it? And the database goes into deep freeze mode? Yeah, that.

210 Kragar  May 14, 2014 2:35:21pm

re: #208 Pie-onist Overlord

What just happened?

Youtube Video

211 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 2:37:36pm

I was driving home from work and I turned on the radio. It was on the NPR preset and Glenn Fucking Greenwald was droning on and on about his new book (droning, get it?) and the NPR interviewer in her boring nasal NPR voice was verbally fellating him.

I could not change the station fast enough.

212 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 2:37:57pm
213 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 2:38:08pm

Blip!

Nevermind, already posted.

214 kirkspencer  May 14, 2014 2:38:23pm

re: #198 Mattand

Believe me, I feel your pain. I remember all of the condescending articles Baby Boomers were writing about Gen X 20 years ago. The same people who were always complaining about the WW2 generation bashing them.

It’s amazing how quickly a generation can forget the past.

Kids.

215 BigBadDemocrat  May 14, 2014 2:38:58pm

UFO called in for a cat to help them also.

216 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 2:39:32pm

re: #211 Pie-onist Overlord

I was driving home from work and I turned on the radio. It was on the NPR preset and Glenn Fucking Greenwald was droning on and on about his new book (droning, get it?) and the NPR interviewer in her boring nasal NPR voice was verbally fellating him.

I could not change the station fast enough.

Listening to that now.

npr.org

217 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 2:41:28pm

re: #211 Pie-onist Overlord

I was driving home from work and I turned on the radio. It was on the NPR preset and Glenn Fucking Greenwald was droning on and on about his new book (droning, get it?) and the NPR interviewer in her boring nasal NPR voice was verbally fellating him.

I could not change the station fast enough.

Terry Gross? She is possibly the worst interviewer on NPR.

As Charles mentioned the other day, it’s all about money. No one is going to mess with his gravy train.

218 calochortus  May 14, 2014 2:41:53pm

re: #207 Rightwingconspirator

It’s not but I’d be far and away more worried if that were oil or gas storage near a conventional plant. Even if it were running at full power. I think it was shut down though. Edison got screwed royally by Mitsubishi heavy, which of course will likely be passed on in increased rates.

Yep, I think they shut it down last year.

219 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 2:42:39pm

Did Neo fuck up the Matrix again?

220 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 2:42:52pm

“hear me nao and pet me later! doggz is not lowed to mess wif mah hoomans!!”

221 The Ghost of a Flea  May 14, 2014 2:44:10pm

re: #219 Sergey Romanov

Did Neo fuck up the Matrix again?

It was Tron Guy this time.

Or the Big Lebowski.

222 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 2:44:20pm

re: #220 dog philosopher

“hear me nao and pet me later! doggz is not lowed to mess wif mah hoomans!!”

“talk to dah paw!!”

223 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 2:44:31pm

re: #217 William Barnett-Lewis

Terry Gross? She is possibly the worst interviewer on NPR.

As Charles mentioned the other day, it’s all about money. No one is going to mess with his gravy train.

What gets me even more is that GG acts and speaks as though he’s the top authority on the NSA.

And interviewers allow him to get away with it.

224 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 2:45:02pm

re: #220 dog philosopher

Youtube Video

225 Kragar  May 14, 2014 2:59:50pm
226 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:00:41pm
227 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 3:04:25pm

I just drove through this - left work early. It was burning right up to the freeway when I threaded the needle.

Wow, just wow.

228 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:05:16pm

re: #227 Stanley Sea

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I just drove through this - left work early. It was burning right up to the freeway when I threaded the needle.

Wow, just wow.

Fucking hell.

230 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 3:12:46pm

re: #226 Kragar

It was one of three reasons posited, but the pay disparity is the one that would stick in anyone’s craw if they knew that they were being paid less than the person before them, even though they’re doing as well or better than that predecessor.

231 simoom  May 14, 2014 3:13:57pm

Someone may have already posted this:

232 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 3:14:10pm

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

What gets me even more is that GG acts and speaks as though he’s the top authority on the NSA.

And interviewers allow him to get away with it.

That is because most of the interviewers have no idea about internet security, meta-data, how the whole process works, etc. And it seems no one is capable of doing any study on a damn subject before an interview.

I’ll keep on saying it…we no longer have a true and efficient news media and we have very few real journalists.

By the way…sure would be fun if Charles could set up a question and answer session with the Great Greenwald. He could be given a membership and we could have a thread where the members could ask the Mighty G all kinds of questions.

Now, how well do you think he would hold up to that? After about three questions I think he would get all upset. Charles would have to tie him to a chair or something.

By the way…it would have to be heavily moderated most likely. Glenn probably will have to be controlled!

Heeheee…

233 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 3:16:18pm

An UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT SIGN!

234 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 3:17:06pm

Map of current CA wildfires and status updates.

235 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 3:18:24pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

So brilliant except there’s been exactly how many cases of voter fraud that have been documented, let alone prosecuted in the 2012 cycle?

Yeah, I thought so.

236 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:18:27pm
237 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 3:20:18pm

Oh hell…the storm warning sirens are going off.

Shit…and I am directly in the proposed path being indicated by doppler radar. Rotation being shown in Circleville just south of Columbus.

Most of the times, the major storms seem to dance around the downtown area. I hope that is the case again

Time to log off to protect the computers. And there is a big lighting strike lighting the sky right now.

Later!

238 calochortus  May 14, 2014 3:21:36pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

Stay safe.

240 makeitstop  May 14, 2014 3:27:49pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

An UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT SIGN!

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And the Dumbest Man on the Internet screws up the punch line. Typical.

241 Varek Raith  May 14, 2014 3:28:03pm

Super Kitteh!

242 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 3:28:50pm

re: #240 makeitstop

And the Dumbest Man on the Internet screws up the punch line. Typical.

The guy is such an idiot. How does he get dressed?

243 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:30:48pm

re: #242 Charles Johnson

The guy is such an idiot. How does he get dressed?

Footie Pajamas with velcro tabs

244 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 3:31:07pm

GOP Congressman Wants To Block Elon Musk From Competing In Space
Unfortunately the article uses the term “military-industrial complex” but it’s something to keep an eye on.

245 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 3:31:08pm

re: #234 lawhawk

Map of current CA wildfires and status updates.

Unbelievable. The thermostat on my car at one point showed 104.

246 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 3:32:26pm

re: #227 Stanley Sea

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I just drove through this - left work early. It was burning right up to the freeway when I threaded the needle.

Wow, just wow.

My in laws have been evacuated. The fire is quite close to their home. God bless the firefighters trying to save homes and stay safe.

247 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 3:34:43pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

Where are they? Holy shit.

Last place I worked is directly north of the Carlsbad fire. Traffic is stopped on the surface streets. They are stuck. Luckily for them there is a home brewery in one of the bays down the way.

248 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:36:15pm

Probably time for me to pick up some more filter masks from Home Depot. Had a bunch of sinus and breathing problems during the last fires.

249 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:38:26pm
250 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 3:38:39pm

That is one big, nasty storm cell headed for Observer Art.

251 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 3:40:00pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

They are in Carlsbad a bit inland.

252 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 3:41:49pm
253 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:42:14pm
254 Jack Burton  May 14, 2014 3:43:08pm

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

My in laws have been evacuated. The fire is quite close to their home. God bless the firefighters trying to save homes and stay safe.

I was evacuated yesterday but luckily it was only for a few hours and no houses were lost in that one.

255 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 3:43:42pm

I just had some strange shit happen to my computer in the last hangup here.

Had to shut down; actually had to turn off power to the ‘puter. Went through some housecleaning. All is well now, though I ran Crap Cleaner, too, and now have to redo passwords. Luckily, it’s only in a couple of places and I have them written down.

256 Targetpractice  May 14, 2014 3:44:22pm

re: #253 Kragar

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Goldy, bronzy, irony.

257 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:44:42pm

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

I just had some strange shit happen to my computer in the last hangup here.

Had to shut down; actually had to turn off power to the ‘puter. Went through some housecleaning. All is well now, though I ran Crap Cleaner, too, and now have to redo passwords. Luckily, it’s only in a couple of places and I have them written down.

Must be the NSA

258 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 3:45:25pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

GOP Congressman Wants To Block Elon Musk From Competing In Space
Unfortunately the article uses the term “military-industrial complex” but it’s something to keep an eye on.

eisenhower’s terminology too “radical” for you?

259 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 3:46:03pm

re: #253 Kragar

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I’m wondering if Dean Baquet is being paid as much as Jill Abramson?

260 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:46:19pm

sdcountyemergency.com

261 Aunty Entity Dragon  May 14, 2014 3:46:53pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I’ve read some comments from animal behaviorists that:

1. The dog was definitely hunting the child. The dog saw the kid from beneath the SUV and chose an attack vector from behind the kid.

2. The cat was not demonstrating territoriality. The cat saw a mortal threat both to a friend (the child) and to itself and attacked repeatedly to eliminate the threat.

262 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 3:47:31pm

re: #257 Kragar

Must be the NSA

Haha!

Actually, I think it had something to do with AVG since I got some kind of weird message about it. But that seems to be okey-dokey now, too.

263 blueraven  May 14, 2014 3:48:29pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

GOP Congressman Wants To Block Elon Musk From Competing In Space
Unfortunately the article uses the term “military-industrial complex” but it’s something to keep an eye on.

The GOP, in general, is hostile to Elon Musk, so no big surprise here.

264 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 3:49:52pm

re: #254 Jack Burton

I was evacuated yesterday but luckily it was only for a few hours and no houses were lost in that one.

Main thing everyone and the dog is safe. Are the winds still high?

265 kirkspencer  May 14, 2014 3:49:54pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

GOP Congressman Wants To Block Elon Musk From Competing In Space
Unfortunately the article uses the term “military-industrial complex” but it’s something to keep an eye on.

Take what Greg Autry says with large blocks of salt. He’s a tried and true business libertarian (Motto: government has no business in business.)

266 makeitstop  May 14, 2014 3:50:06pm

re: #259 Justanotherhuman

I’m wondering if Dean Baquet is being paid as much as Jill Abramson?

The article someone linked earlier said that the discrepancy between Keller’s and Abramson’s pay was rectified a few weeks ago.

According to that story, it was Abramson’s hiring of an executive managing editor without clearance gave the top brass cause to dismiss her.

267 allegro  May 14, 2014 3:50:12pm

re: #259 Justanotherhuman

I’m wondering if Dean Baquet is being paid as much as Jill Abramson?

Betcha he’s doing some poking around to find out.

268 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:50:40pm

re: #267 allegro

Betcha he’s doing some poking around to find out.

Discretely

269 makeitstop  May 14, 2014 3:52:27pm

The article I referred to:

Why Jill Abramson was fired

270 kirkspencer  May 14, 2014 3:55:09pm

re: #265 kirkspencer

For example, according to the headline the doomsaying words were said by a congressman. No, they weren’t. They were spoken by a legislative assistant to the congressman. And handily ignored is that this generated a great deal of resistance - from congressman as well as members of the space business community present for the meeting. (note that: not a hearing, a meeting. Discussing options and tossing ideas.)

All you have to do is follow the link not just to the article but to the article it references and so misconstrues.

271 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 3:56:52pm

re: #146 Kragar

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So already we can see how well this “America is a Christian Nation” stuff is going to turn out.

272 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:57:49pm

re: #271 Skip Intro

So already we can see how well this “America is a Christian Nation” stuff is going to turn out.

And us without nearly enough lions on hand.
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273 Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2014 3:58:27pm

re: #205 Kragar

I’m confused. Since Republicans don’t care about anyone but the 1%, shouldn’t they ban abortion for only the “job creators”? Why would they want lazy, shiftless women to have more children? Especially the blah and brown ones?

274 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 3:58:48pm
275 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 3:58:58pm

re: #251 Rightwingconspirator

They are in Carlsbad a bit inland.

:(

New fire north of Lake Hodges.

shitshow.

I just tweeted Issa - his home (hahahahahahaha) district is Vista.

276 Kragar  May 14, 2014 3:59:45pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

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Not really that much of a stretch. The hovercraft docks are maybe 5 miles down the road.

277 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 3:59:55pm

Not sure how often Show Users updates-ObserverArt, did the storm pass by ok? You good?

278 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:01:19pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

:(

New fire north of Lake Hodges.

shitshow.

I just tweeted Issa - his home (hahahahahahaha) district is Vista.

Is he going to be asking for Federal assistance? : )

279 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 4:01:37pm

re: #273 Patricia Kayden

I’m confused. Since Republicans don’t care about anyone but the 1%, shouldn’t they ban abortion for only the “job creators”? Why would they want lazy, shiftless women to have more children? Especially the blah and brown ones?

more competition for jobs drives down wages

also, getting rid of food stamps

280 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:01:45pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

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Trestles. Best surfing spot.

281 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:03:15pm

re: #265 kirkspencer

Take what Greg Autry says with large blocks of salt. He’s a tried and true business libertarian (Motto: government has no business in business.)

Yeah, you might be right. I try not to dismiss everything I see with mentions on military industrial complex but all too often it’s an indicator of bullshit.

282 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 4:03:18pm

re: #261 Aunty Entity Dragon

I’ve read some comments from animal behaviorists that:

1. The dog was definitely hunting the child. The dog saw the kid from beneath the SUV and chose an attack vector from behind the kid.

2. The cat was not demonstrating territoriality. The cat saw a mortal threat both to a friend (the child) and to itself and attacked repeatedly to eliminate the threat.

I noticed that as well; the dog was clearly hunting the child - classic predatory behavior, and the cat was doing more than demonstrating territorial behavior as well.

283 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:03:19pm

re: #278 Justanotherhuman

Is he going to be asking for Federal assistance? : )

He’s such an asshole. When I lived in his district I got into a good one with one of his unpaid interns about the ACA.

284 Kragar  May 14, 2014 4:04:17pm

Word is they’re restricting traffic on both I-5 and I-15 now

285 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:05:08pm

OK, I think this one is new.

North of the 78. Close to Vista (Issa)

286 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:05:32pm

re: #263 blueraven

The GOP, in general, is hostile to Elon Musk, so no big surprise here.

I don’t know. Elon Musk is an interesting guy and doesn’t fit easily into boxes. People who like him probably shouldn’t and same goes for folks who hate him.

287 Kragar  May 14, 2014 4:06:19pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

OK, I think this one is new.

North of the 78. Close to Vista (Issa)

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How are the winds up there right now? We’ve had some bad gusts the last few days over in East County.

288 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:06:54pm

re: #287 Kragar

How are the winds up there right now? We’ve had some bad gusts the last few days over in East County.

trees are blowing.

289 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:07:17pm

re: #258 dog philosopher

eisenhower’s terminology too “radical” for you?

The concept has been unfortunately abused by conspiracy nutcases for far too long.

290 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:07:41pm

re: #288 Stanley Sea

trees are blowing.

Actually just went to window to look again. Blowing pretty damn hard.

291 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 4:07:51pm

Storm Update.

Warnings have been dropped for my area. The storms seemed to die down once they came into the Columbus outer belt area. I sort of count on that happening, but you can never be too sure.

However, there are still warnings to both the east and west of the city. Tornado has been spotted to the west of Columbus in the London to Marysville area and on up.

There are a gob of storms to the southeast about 40 miles east of Columbus.

At one point there were 5 major storm cells causing warnings in 7 counties. All had hail cores, high wind and lightening.

Some crazy weather for sure.

They are saying the one to the west has been spotted touching down three times and then going back up into the clouds. No damage reports. Local NBC news just showed an image of someone’s yard full of 1” or so hail. There have been reports of hail up to 2” in diameter to the south where the storms have already passed through.

The whole entire eastern part of the state is one big storm system right now.

I knew this was gonna happen. The freaking humidity today has been as high as I can remember for a 70° day in May.

292 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:08:48pm
293 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 4:08:53pm

re: #289 Killgore Trout

The concept has been unfortunately abused by conspiracy nutcases for far too long.

cite?

294 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 4:09:22pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

OK, I think this one is new.

North of the 78. Close to Vista (Issa)

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There seem to be a lot of new fires being reported. I wonder how many are being intentionally started?

295 Kragar  May 14, 2014 4:09:35pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Actually just went to window to look again. Blowing pretty damn hard.

Yeah, the fires are going to be jumping like crazy then.

296 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:09:36pm

More Dreamliner problems.

Air India says a windshield on a Dreamliner cracked midair on a flight from Frankfurt to Delhi - @timesofindia
Read more on indiatimes.com

297 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:10:34pm

Small brush fire closes 405 Freeway in California’s San Fernando Valley - @latimes
End of alert

298 Kragar  May 14, 2014 4:11:13pm

Looks like its time for me to see about how the drive east is

299 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 4:12:41pm

re: #286 Killgore Trout

I don’t know. Elon Musk is an interesting guy and doesn’t fit easily into boxes. People who like him probably shouldn’t and same goes for folks who hate him.

and why should people not like elon musk?

300 aagcobb  May 14, 2014 4:12:56pm

Marco Rubio tries to parse his previous comments on global warming.

301 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:13:13pm

re: #294 NJDhockeyfan

There seem to be a lot of new fires being reported. I wonder how many are being intentionally started?

Yep, what the BF said.

wheeeeeeeee!

they will get busted and will be harshly dealt with under the law.

Hell, I think a dude who ACCIDENTALLY started a fire a few years back got time in the big house.

302 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:13:37pm

Top U.S. General: Syrian Opposition Not Ready for the Big Leagues

Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Atlantic Council that even if the beleaguered Syrian opposition somehow ousted President Bashar al-Assad, a development that appears increasingly unlikely, the country would still be consumed with terror, chaos and starvation. “If Assad took his family and all of his cronies and departed Syria today, how does that country … articulate itself?” he asked.

Dempsey noted that the Syrian opposition maintains no governance structure to provide goods, services and security; no force capable of holding ground to administer aid and wage attacks against the regime; and no counterterrorism capability to root out al Qaeda-affiliated groups in the country. “And we’re not on a path currently to provide that,” he said.

303 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:13:43pm

re: #298 Kragar

Looks like its time for me to see about how the drive east is

You still @ work? Leave buddy, leave.

304 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:14:03pm
305 Varek Raith  May 14, 2014 4:14:14pm

Geez, nearly 0 dew point out there in California.
Scary.

306 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:15:05pm

There may be better, but I’ve had these peeps on the background.

fox5sandiego.com

307 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:17:11pm

OK, twitter weakness.

What if I want the tweets for 5 fire hashtags?

308 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:17:19pm

re: #299 dog philosopher

and why should people not like elon musk?

He doesn’t like unions among other things. He’s a business guy with a lot of interesting ideas, not all of them are going to fit neatly into a partisan box

309 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:17:45pm
310 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:20:10pm
311 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 4:20:16pm

re: #304 Justanotherhuman

@JimCantore @THESarahD29 @weatherchannel Destroyed farm buildings near Cedarville, oh.

That is where the storm to the west first touched down. Also the area that had the large hail. Not far from Xenia…where the biggest one to hit Ohio happened back in ‘74.

Thankfully, that one has died down and had the warnings cancelled. I’m sure we will be hearing some damage reports to the north of their where it was said to have bounced down and up twice.

312 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 4:20:32pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

OK, twitter weakness.

What if I want the tweets for 5 fire hashtags?

I think you just have to copy and past the URLS after click each time stamp. I dunno. There might be a better way with TweetDeck or something.

313 [deleted]  May 14, 2014 4:20:54pm
314 Varek Raith  May 14, 2014 4:21:35pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

Someone is determined to keep GG from making money from his book.

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Rofl.

315 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 4:22:06pm

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

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That’s what I thought. I hope they catch them all.

316 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:22:12pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

Someone is determined to keep GG from making money from his book.

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Anon is targeting his book tour over his business links to paypal.

317 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:22:58pm

re: #315 NJDhockeyfan

That’s what I thought. I hope they catch them all.

That’s LA though. Don’t jump to criminal conclusions. It’s hot as fuck and it’s dry as fuck.

318 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 4:23:27pm

Hey all Lizards in San Diego County. Stay safe and if the authorities say leave, you fuckin’ run like hell with your safe deposit boxes, hard drives, instruments and the like.

With the sporadic nature of the locations of these fires, I wouldn’t rule out arson. :(

319 Varek Raith  May 14, 2014 4:23:32pm

re: #316 Killgore Trout

Anon is targeting his book tour over his business links to paypal.

I say let the two fools fight it out.
XD

320 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:24:03pm

re: #317 Stanley Sea

That’s LA though. Don’t jump to criminal conclusions. It’s hot as fuck and it’s dry as fuck.

It could be some asshole who flicked a cigarette butt out the window.

321 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 4:24:29pm

re: #299 dog philosopher

and why should people not like elon musk?

He’s not easy enough to concern troll about?

322 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 4:24:38pm

Thanks for the updings and concern about the storms in my area.

LGF members are the best!

Edit…Oh yeah…I hope all you California members get through the fires. Stay safe. Just another crazy day in America/The World/The Universe.

Let’s all place our hands on Mark Rubio’s throat and squeeze together in 3…2…1!

Maybe we can choke some sense into a climate denier and get a message out to all of them!

323 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:25:00pm

As I suspected, Elon Musk is a libertarian.

5 libertarian oligarchs who made fortunes off the government they want to destroy

salon.com

“As the old brain-teasers used to say, “one of these things is not like the others.” Elon Musk differs from the other people on this list in one very important way: He’s a smart guy who actually invents things. They are real things, useful things, tangible things. Where the other Silicon Valley libertarians merely imagine they’re real inventors like Ford and Edison, while doing nothing more than making trivial front-ends for existing technology, Musk really seems to be what he appears: an inventor and entrepreneur in the old-school style.

“Unfortunately, he also hangs around with the wrong crowd. Some of their silly ideas seem to have rubbed off on him. We don’t know if that happened when he was working on PayPal with Thiel, or even earlier when they were part of the same conservative circle as undergraduates at Stanford.

“Whatever it was, the tendency for ideologically-based hypocrisy has not entirely eluded Musk. As Mother Jones reports, Musk was able to save Tesla Motors - and his sizable ownership stake in it - with a low-interest government loan. “Shortly after paying off his $465 million loan,” Josh Harkinson writes, “Musk proclaimed that government should no longer provide such assistance.” More

324 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 4:25:07pm

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

It could be some asshole who flicked a cigarette butt out the window.

Could be, but we’ve got a lot people here who like to set fires.

325 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:25:22pm

Another nuanced view from Elon Musk
Taxpayer Subsidies Helped Tesla Motors, So Why Does Elon Musk Slam Them?

326 Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2014 4:25:25pm

re: #319 Varek Raith

I say let the two fools fight it out.
XD

GREENZILLA VS. ANONMUTOS!! LET THEM FIGHT!

327 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:25:57pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

Someone is determined to keep GG from making money from his book.

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Paging Charles, paging Charles…

328 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:26:03pm

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

It could be some asshole who flicked a cigarette butt out the window.

Yesterday someone tweeted the license plate and car of a dude flicking his ashes.

You’ll be busted if your DNA cigarette is the cause.

329 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 4:26:29pm

Such extremes. Hot, dry fire weather in Southern California, 80 to 90 inches of snow still sitting on the ground in the high alpine zones of the Colorado Rockies. Our big river runoff season hasn’t even started yet.

330 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:26:57pm

re: #329 teleskiguy

Such extremes. Hot, dry fire weather in Southern California, 80 to 90 inches of snow still sitting on the ground in the high alpine zones of the Colorado Rockies. Our big river runoff season hasn’t even started yet.

It’s a shitshow.

331 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:28:05pm

re: #323 Justanotherhuman

I think the Mother Jones article is fair but that Solon article is a bit over the top.

332 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 4:28:21pm

re: #329 teleskiguy

Such extremes. Hot, dry fire weather in Southern California, 80 to 90 inches of snow still sitting on the ground in the high alpine zones of the Colorado Rockies. Our big river runoff season hasn’t even started yet.

Not just Southern California. It goes all the way to Washington State. I don’t recall anything like it, although I’m sure it has happened before.

333 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:28:39pm

re: #328 Stanley Sea

Yesterday someone tweeted the license plate and car of a dude flicking his ashes.

You’ll be busted if your DNA cigarette is the cause.

I haven’t been in CA since the early 1960s, but I remember warnings about cigarettes being tossed from vehicles, among other warnings regarding fire hazards. And being stopped and asked about bringing produce in or out of CA as well.

334 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:31:26pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

I think the Mother Jones article is fair but that Solon article is a bit over the top.

Will Musk continue to supply the Intl Space Station since Americans are no longer welcome there?

335 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:34:17pm

Well, some good news at least.

California fire officials: Forward spread of wildfire in Carlsbad, Calif., stops but threat to structures continues - @nbcsandiego
Read more on nbcsandiego.com

336 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 4:35:17pm

I read an article about Squaw Valley and its future yesterday, good stuff for anyone who is familiar with the area.

This stood out in the article:

On a midweek day in January, terrain at Squaw Valley was limited to a several-hundred foot radius around the snowmaking guns, which bordered the easiest trails off three select chairlifts, including the top-to-bottom Mountain Run. The rest of the mountain stood haggard and dry, brown and lifeless. But what else to do but ski? A friend and I sped down a trail that wound its way through the trees like a luge course. We whooshed around tight turns, flying off small kickers, and tapped tips and tails off stumps. Riding back up the chairlift, we talked about the dismal winter. At the end of January, Squaw recorded a soul-crushing 69 inches of cumulative snowfall, a drop in the bucket compared to their annual average of 450 inches, and a far cry from the 800 that fell in 2010-11.

Coming off of two major drought years in Tahoe—2013 was the driest year on record in California since meteorologists began keeping track in 1850—everyone assumed the Sierra Nevada was due for a snowy winter. But as November rolled into December and then January, the forecast still read high pressure. It seemed everyone’s worst fears were coming true in Tahoe: For the third year in a row, it didn’t snow.

337 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 4:36:20pm

re: #334 Justanotherhuman

Will Musk continue to supply the Intl Space Station since Americans are no longer welcome there?

Russia can’t prevent Americans from going to the space station. The Russians are just threatening to no longer give us a ride.
Musk will probably continue to honor whatever contracts he has and he’s looking to replace the Russian made rocket engines we’ve been buying with American made ones.

338 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 4:38:27pm

My girlfriend and her family have been evacuated. San Elijo Hills, San Marcos fire.

339 allegro  May 14, 2014 5:09:45pm

re: #273 Patricia Kayden

I’m confused. Since Republicans don’t care about anyone but the 1%, shouldn’t they ban abortion for only the “job creators”? Why would they want lazy, shiftless women to have more children? Especially the blah and brown ones?

Someone has to take out their trash, fight their wars, raise their kids, mow their lawns…

340 Belafon  May 14, 2014 5:11:29pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

Information wants to be free.

341 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 5:29:06pm

re: #340 Belafon

Information wants to be free.

The shipping and handling will kill ya’.

342 Eventual Carrion  May 14, 2014 5:45:35pm

re: #291 ObserverArt

Storm Update.

[snip]
There are a gob of storms to the southeast about 40 miles east of Columbus.

At one point there were 5 major storm cells causing warnings in 7 counties. All had hail cores, high wind and lightening.

Some crazy weather for sure.

[snip]

The whole entire eastern part of the state is one big storm system right now.

I knew this was gonna happen. The freaking humidity today has been as high as I can remember for a 70° day in May.

NW PA here, just across OH border a little northeast of Youngstown. Bad, heavy rain just moved through. Thunder, lightening, tornado watch until 9:00 (another 15 min.). Not a lot of heavy wind so that was nice :-)

343 Tool of Society  May 19, 2014 8:32:49am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Dang it! I’m busy working away and had the previous thread open and commenting in it and didn’t realize I was on an empty bus going nowhere!!!

Anyway, I had posted this comment regarding the protective cat video:

The dog doesn’t look anything like a pit bull. The person who posted the video stated that the dog was a Labrador retriever/Chow mix (neighbor’s dog). There is absolutely nothing close to a pitbull in that. This clearly shows why most “pit bull” attacks turn out to not involve a pitbull. You’re as bad as the news article I saw a while back that was about a VICIOUS PIT BULL ATTTACK!!.. THe article even included a picture of the dog and you could clearly see the dog was german shepard.


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