About Former CBS News Reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s Ridiculous “Hacking” Video

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There are so many deranged stories coming out of the right wing these days that it’s hard to keep up; so I just caught up on the latest ridiculous allegations by former CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson.

Attkisson released a video that she says shows her computer being “hacked” by super-secret government agents, trying to stop her courageous reporting on Benghazi. There’s her video, up above.

Attkisson’s claims are utterly ludicrous, folks. If some unknown entities actually had access to this computer, they’d simply wipe her files — not simulate the Delete key right in front of her eyes while she was working. In fact, this is such a brain-dead claim that I’m amazed anyone actually takes it seriously.

What’s probably happening in this video is a stuck Delete key. Maybe she was eating too many potato chips and crumbs got lodged in her keyboard. Or maybe there’s some kind of software conflict. Or maybe she outright faked this video; it wouldn’t be difficult. But this is not how “hacking” works.

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1 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 10:00:30am
2 Romantic Heretic  Nov 1, 2014 10:03:11am

Ya know, Ms. Attkisson? I’m mentally ill as well.

The difference between me and you is I know I am. I work hard to keep it under control and try not to have it direct my actions to other people’s detriment.

You? Not so much.

3 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 10:03:56am

Good God, even in Hollywood hackers don’t pull such juvenile shit. If they want your files gone, then they’re gone. They don’t toy with your computer, they nuke it and salt the earth in their wake to ensure you’re not getting them back.

4 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:07:20am

Our media is such a joke.

5 allegro  Nov 1, 2014 10:08:28am

re: #3 Targetpractice

Good God, even in Hollywood hackers don’t pull such juvenile shit. If they want your files gone, then they’re gone. They don’t toy with your computer, they nuke it and salt the earth in their wake to ensure you’re not getting them back.

But that would deny the so important terror quotient. The story has to have that teen horror movie vibe to it to have a prayer of going viral and becoming a thing.

6 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 10:09:52am

Poor thing. Is she on Fox or Newsmax yet?

7 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 10:10:43am

Seriously, looking at this reminds me of the old tech help line jokes about customers calling to complain that they broke their computer’s built-up cup holder.

8 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:11:38am

re: #7 Targetpractice

Seriously, looking at this reminds me of the old tech help line jokes about customers calling to complain that they broke their computer’s built-up cup holder.

I think of Homer when he got really fat on the Simpsons. “What’s the any key, I think I’ll order another tab.”

9 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 10:12:10am

1D10T error, obviously.

10 missliberties  Nov 1, 2014 10:13:03am

Can we just highlight once and for all the Republican Operatives who pushed this story are big fat ugly pus sucking LIARS!

One man who was repeating this story because Obama is the real bad tyranny, is Scott Johnson, of Powerline Blog. He is no dummy, though, and is one of the rigid intellectual forces behind the push for GOP (wingnut) takeover.

His name is Scott Johnson (not ChuckyC) just in case you want to hang another Johnson takedown off your belt Charles …!

11 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:15:37am

re: #5 allegro

But that would deny the so important terror quotient. The story has to have that teen horror movie vibe to it to have a prayer of going viral and becoming a thing.

But as TP just pointed out, even in teen movies hackers don’t play this sort of dumb game. The data simply gets deleted in such a way as to make it non-recoverable.

Mark it down as a way Hollywood is tech-smarter than Wingnut screamers.

12 missliberties  Nov 1, 2014 10:18:38am

Oh yeah, I forgot, some sharp eyed dude noticed that something was askew in Sherry’s telling of the story, when the hacking that you think you are seeing is from Sept 16th, 2013, not from 2012.

How do we know? A sharp blogger noticed.

“Attkisson shot this video on or sometime after September 16, 2013. The episode of “Dancing with the Stars” that is playing in the background features Valerie Harper dancing a Foxtrot to “Some Kind of Wonderful” and first aired live on the evening of that date.

According to Attkisson’s own timeline her computer was ‘hacked’ in October 2012, she came forward with this allegation in May 2013, but then waited until September 2013 to take video ‘evidence.’”

crooksandliars.com

13 BadExampleMan  Nov 1, 2014 10:18:55am

Funny you should mention this…BUSTED: Sharyl Attkisson’s ‘Hacked’ Video Made Nine Months After Alleged Hack

Edit…curse you, missliberties!

14 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:19:01am

And since the whole dumb “BENGHAZI!!!11” meme has come up yet again, here’s another installment in Dark_Falcon’s Stories Using the Word ‘Benghazi’ That are Actually About Benghazi:

Adrian Hofer: A rogue Libyan general’s odd campaign

A Greek car ferry moored on the waterfront in Tobruk has exemplified the chaos overtaking Libya three years after dictator Muammar Gadhafi was ousted. The country is effectively divided, with its new parliament having fled to Tobruk in August, where MPs were initially accommodated in the hired 17,000-ton Elyros ferry. Meanwhile the old legislature it was supposed to replace, the General National Congress (GNC), has been resurrected in Tripoli.

A host of powerful militias that fought side-by-side to topple Gadhafi have now turned against each other in a violent struggle for power and resources in the oil-rich country. While the GNC is supported by Operation Dawn, a coalition of forces from the Western city of Misrata and Islamists, the official parliament exiled in Tobruk has aligned itself with Operation Dignity, a military coalition launched by former army general Khalifa Haftar in May.

The renegade general has a long history in Libya, having participated in both the 1969 coup that brought Gadhafi to power and the uprising that toppled him in 2011. However, Haftar had faded into the background before he suddenly reappeared on local television in February this year, promising to free Libya from terrorism and extremism.

Islamist-leaning forces had by then become the dominant force in the GNC, and radical groups were suspected of carrying out systematic assassinations of officials in Tripoli and the eastern city of Benghazi. However, Haftar’s announcement that he was suspending the parliament while the army took over was initially met with surprise and scepticism. Nothing came of it.

Only three months later, when he launched Operation Dignity to ‘crush jihadists’ in and around Benghazi, was it demonstrated that Haftar had managed to gain the backing of key strategic militias and military forces. Led by the self-proclaimed Libyan National Army (LNA), the offensive was also joined by the al-Saiqa Special Forces in Benghazi, the 2nd battalion of the Libyan army in the South and air-force units based in Tobruk.

15 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 10:20:44am
16 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:21:13am

What i still hate most about this kind of crap is it distracts from a real conversation that could be had. Instead it’s nothing but dudebro and dudebrotte crap. Greenwald constantly putting down anyone who doesn’t think Ed Snowden is the greatest man in the history of ever doesn’t help too.

18 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:24:48am
What’s probably happening in this video is a stuck Delete key.

Backspace.

19 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:25:31am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

What i still hate most about this kind of crap is it distracts from a real conversation that could be had. Instead it’s nothing but dudebro and dudebrotte crap. Greenwald constantly putting down anyone who doesn’t think Ed Snowden is the greatest man in the history of ever doesn’t help too.

The sick thing here is that Snowden surely knows what a crock this latest ‘hacking’ story is, but if he gets asked about it he’ll surely lie and say its an “OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1”.

20 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:26:08am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Someone set her up the DERP?

21 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:26:18am

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

The sick thing here is that Snowden surely knows what a crock this latest ‘hacking’ story is, but if he gets asked about it he’ll surely lie and say its an “OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1”.

Well of course. Gotta keep em paranoid.

22 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:26:24am

As someone in youtube comments pointed out, it must be the dreaded id10t virus.

23 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 10:26:25am

re: #18 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Backspace.

YOU’RE IN ON IT. BUSTED!

24 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 10:26:35am

But…but…but…at The Blaze everyone is sure this is Obama’s final takeover. The comments on this story have all kinds of examples of bubba’s all over ‘merica giving examples of this kind of thing happening.

God…our country is getting so stupid and falls for the dumbest crap stories. What’s it going to take to turn this ship around? Hell, can it even be turned around?

25 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 10:27:06am

re: #18 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

She’s using a MacBook - on a Mac keyboard it’s called “Delete.”

26 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:27:07am

re: #23 BigPapa

YOU’RE IN ON IT. BUSTED!

I confess! Now off with me to the comfy chair.

27 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:27:22am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

She’s using a MacBook - on a Mac keyboard it’s called “Delete.”

How is backspace called?

28 Shazam  Nov 1, 2014 10:28:59am

re: #27 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Delete and Forward Delete (marked delete with a forward arrow). Although on the compact keyboards, such as the Macbook, there’s just one Delete and holding Option, I think?, does the forward delete.

29 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 10:29:04am

re: #24 ObserverArt

But…but…but…at The Blaze everyone is sure this is Obama’s final takeover. The comments on this story have all kinds of examples of bubba’s all over ‘merica giving examples of this kind of thing happening.

God…our country is getting so stupid and falls for the dumbest crap stories. What’s it going to take to turn this ship around? Hell, can it even be turned around?

What annoys me the most is that the right when the NSA thing first hit the fan in the Bush years, they just accused anyone who was even remotely critical of the whole thing. Snowden does his “big reveal” and all of a sudden they have a problem with not just surveillance but the very existence of the NSA itself. It’s the dishonesty and partisan hackery that infuriates me. The way you hear it from RWNJs and dudebros, you’d think that Obama invented the NSA to spy on them.

30 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 10:30:18am

re: #27 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Same function, different name.

31 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:30:24am

re: #28 Shazam

Delete and Forward Delete (marked delete with a forward arrow).

Everything not like we, humans, have.
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32 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 10:33:17am

re: #12 missliberties

Thanks - added that link to the post.

33 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 10:34:11am

Well…if keys are sticking Obama is doing it!

34 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 10:34:27am

My wife thought she had been hacked once.

“What did you do?”

“I was looking at this website and this message said my computer was infected, so I had to load this antivirus.”

“You already have antivirus. You downloaded spyware.”

*blank stare*

“You got tricked into downloading something bad.”

“BUT IT WAS ANTIVIRUS!”

35 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 10:36:41am

BBL

36 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 10:37:23am

Stuck keys on a laptop… you can’t explain that.

37 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Nov 1, 2014 10:37:50am

I think it’s hilarious. The fact that this idea of what hacking job must look like is really just how a Hollywood movie would portray a hacking job - for dramatic reasons - is perfect. It seems to be a Republican today means to be a wingnut, which means you must suspend disbelief and swallow whole all types of crazy ideas.

38 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:38:16am
39 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 10:38:38am

Yep, it’s definitely a PEBCAK error (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard). Of course, since the narrative has been set, the actual facts of the matter, that a hacker would simply delete / wipe the files, that this video was shot almost a year after the purported hacking.

What kind of a stringless yo-yo would continue to use a machine that was “hacked and deleting her work” for that long? Wouldn’t a reasonable and rational person (I know, that’s a self-limiting standard with that group) go and get professional assistance? Or maybe take it to the Apple Store and let one of them take a look at it.

The “truth” out there now is that her system was hacked, and each blog / forum / commentator is simply going to add to it. Soon it will have no resemblance to events. Big Surprise.

RBS
Who is watching Alton Brown do his Chickpea show, and REALLY REALLY wants some falafel now. Don’t know if there is any place in town where I can get some, maybe the Gyro shop at the mall.

40 team_fukit  Nov 1, 2014 10:38:51am

41 Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2014 10:38:53am

First they went after Orly Taitz, then Butterdezillion, and now Atkinson.

All your keyboards belong to us.

(In case you haven’t been following the harrowing adventures of Butterbutt at the hands of The Regime, here’s the latest:

Thanks for the summary. A bunch of excuses and promises that he will infect us all, sounds like.

The quy’s not coordinated enouqh to keep relief fliqhts qoinq into Africa while stoppinq fliqhts oriqinatinq in Africa from cominq here.

Can he even walk and chew qum at the same time?

Note that The Regime has diabolically changed her “g” key to a “q”, apparently without her even noticing.

42 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 10:40:40am

re: #39 RealityBasedEbola

I heard you can bye some loofah on Bill O’Reilly’s site. Is that the same thing?

43 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 10:43:47am

re: #42 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I heard you can bye some loofah on Bill O’Reilly’s site. Is that the same thing?

Lets see… Falafil vs O-Reilly….

One is a delicious fried concoction of legumey goodness, the other is just a vegetable.

RBS

44 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 10:48:26am

Far out, really far out.

45 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 10:50:27am

re: #41 Skip Intro

First they went after Orly Taitz, then Butterdezillion, and now Atkinson.

All your keyboards belong to us.

(In case you haven’t been following the harrowing adventures of Butterbutt at the hands of The Regime, here’s the latest:

Note that The Regime has diabolically changed her “g” key to a “q”, apparently without her even noticing.

How bad a government hacker to you have to be to get assigned Taitz, BD or Atkinson. I can see the staff meeting now…

Supervisor:
Johnson, this week you’re to infiltrate the North Korean Network for evidence of their nuclear weapons program.

Williams, stay on what you’ve been doing in planting malware into the Iranian centrifuges. Good job so far.

Brown… You took the last jelly doughnut from the box, so you’re getting Taitz, BD, and Atkinson. And consider yourself lucky I’m not putting upChuck Johnson on your work list too.

46 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 10:51:50am

re: #44 Eventual Carrion

Far out, really far out.

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To explore strange new worlds…

47 Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2014 10:53:19am

re: #45 RealityBasedEbola

What makes this plot against BD so diabolical is that she can’t even use Qooqle or Binq to search for a new keyboard.

48 Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2014 10:54:38am

re: #12 missliberties

Oh yeah, I forgot, some sharp eyed dude noticed that something was askew in Sherry’s telling of the story, when the hacking that you think you are seeing is from Sept 16th, 2013, not from 2012.

How do we know? A sharp blogger noticed.

“Attkisson shot this video on or sometime after September 16, 2013. The episode of “Dancing with the Stars” that is playing in the background features Valerie Harper dancing a Foxtrot to “Some Kind of Wonderful” and first aired live on the evening of that date.

According to Attkisson’s own timeline her computer was ‘hacked’ in October 2012, she came forward with this allegation in May 2013, but then waited until September 2013 to take video ‘evidence.’”

crooksandliars.com

That is the most disturbing aspect to this story. Somebody has a DWTS brainworm so deep, they remember the details.
/*shudder*

49 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 10:55:04am

About that catcalling video: many of my seemingly progressive friends seem to poo poo it. Sexism may be more prevalent in conservative circles, but there’s still a lot of it everywhere.

50 Chez Ko Pe  Nov 1, 2014 10:59:08am

Golly, it’s almost as though she’s been watching too much TV.

51 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:02:07am

re: #49 BigPapa

The video is not unproblematic, omitting all the white guys.

52 Amory Blaine  Nov 1, 2014 11:02:34am

Is she an award winning journalist?

53 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 11:03:13am

re: #49 BigPapa

About that catcalling video: many of my seemingly progressive friends seem to poo poo it. Sexism may be more prevalent in conservative circles, but there’s still a lot of it everywhere.

Same thing with racism.

54 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 11:04:52am

Off topic but about a movie. Anyone seen The Judge? Wife wants to go see it later this evening after the trick-r-treat’rs are done.

55 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 11:08:30am

re: #54 Eventual Carrion

Off topic but about a movie. Anyone seen The Judge? Wife wants to go see it later this evening after the trick-r-treat’rs are done.

TIFF 2014 Review: ‘The Judge’

David Dobkin’s hopelessly maudlin and glacially paced drama The Judge is one part John Grisham thriller and one part James L. Brooks melodrama, two great tastes that taste absolutely abysmal together. The Judge the kind of movie you want to reach out and strangle.

The cheesy daddy issues and uncomfortable comic relief gags about incest and mentally-challenged siblings just don’t jibe with the otherwise deadly serious storyline about a hot shot lawyer (Robert Downey Jr.) forced to defend his bullheaded father (Robert Duvall), himself a small town judge, on a vehicular manslaughter charge… especially when it may turn out to be premeditated murder. It’s one thing to use a dramatic high concept as the backdrop for a story about a family reconnecting - heck, Luc Besson does it all the time - but The Judge makes the a-plot so severe that all the cheesy homespun small town b-plot feels insultingly out of place.

56 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 11:09:37am

re: #51 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The video is not unproblematic, omitting all the white guys.

I don’t agree with reflecting on video’s racial elements. Not to mention, how many white men were excluded? It was X of the worst infractions, edited down to a few minutes. Did somebody get the entire video and do a statistical analysis?

The effort to criticize the video on the racial elements seems more distraction to challenge the premise of it, than constructive.

57 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:15:55am

re: #56 BigPapa

I don’t agree with reflecting on video’s racial elements.

Why? If we’re talking about the social issue of sexism, it’s all too relevant that somehow the video’s authors have not been racially sensitive. All the issues are connected.

Not to mention, how many white men were excluded?

There were 100 instances according to the authors. Out of these 100 how many white guys have been shown in the video? 1.

58 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 11:17:40am

Director of catcalling video responds to race debate

Bliss said that during the 10 hours captured on video, there were 108 instances of street harassment, of which he had 30 to 40 scenes with good enough quality for him to consider. He whittled that down to 20 scenes in the one minute and 57 second video. It’s difficult to distinguish that about six of the men were white because the faces were blurred, Bliss said.
“We have 18 scenes where someone is visible and on camera, and two of the scenes ate up half of the run time” of the video, he said. “And yes, those two men were not white.

The problem of the video is not racial representation, the problem is the initial focus of the video: sexist harassment.

59 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:19:59am

re: #58 BigPapa

Discussing one doesn’t stop us from discussing the other. The fact is that according to Bliss there were plenty of white guys doing this. The video as it is is likely to add to certain racial stereotypes. That is certainly something worth considering in discussing this video.

60 Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2014 11:20:42am

re: #55 Kragar

TIFF 2014 Review: ‘The Judge’

Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 2.5 out of 5. Wife had wanted to see it last weekend but I talked her into seeing St. Vincent. It was an ok film. Guess I will sit through this one and see.

61 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 11:26:16am
62 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 11:27:14am

re: #59 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Discussing one doesn’t stop us from discussing the other. The fact is that according to Bliss there were plenty of white guys doing this. The video as it is is likely to add to certain racial stereotypes. That is certainly something worth considering in discussing this video.

I agree one subject should not stop us from discussing the other. The video does actually capture white guys, but it’s hard to tell as their faces are blurred. The two worst offenders are non-white.

63 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 11:28:10am

re: #62 BigPapa

I’ll just drop this here and go eat something.

vice.com

64 missliberties  Nov 1, 2014 11:31:36am

re: #13 BadExampleMan

Funny you should mention this…BUSTED: Sharyl Attkisson’s ‘Hacked’ Video Made Nine Months After Alleged Hack

Edit…curse you, missliberties!

I return your curses with kisses! That is now the protocol of the NewWorldOrder!

65 jonhendry  Nov 1, 2014 11:32:10am

It could be a bluetooth keyboard in the next room that happens to have something sitting on it.

Similar things have happened to me. A bluetooth trackpad I normally used with my laptop at work was in a different cubicle in another room, because I had been using that other computer. That computer was turned off, but someone was sitting there in conversation, idly stroking the trackpad. The trackpad woke up, paired with my laptop in the other room, which I was using, and the cursor started moving around the screen without my input.

66 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 11:46:18am

re: #63 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

I’ll just drop this here and go eat something.

vice.com

After you return with my beer, I like his post, but this seems to be where we digress:

Gay has a point: Most Americans have a hard time balancing more than one aggrieved minority group’s concerns at a time. We ask ourselves if it’s enough just to be mad about sexism without having to muddy the waters with some idle chit-chat about ethnic minorities being constantly labeled as thugs, shiftless layabouts, and excellent pick-and-roll defenders. Can’t we just focus on one thing and get back to the rest later? How to Get Away with Murder is on, and I love that show.

We can discuss sexism and race at the same time even though it is hard. However, are we to dismiss this viral video showing obvious blatant harrassment on the premise that it’s racist or racially insensitive?

Propaganda is designed to shake you out of your complacency and drive you to direct action. What better way to do that than throwing out a bunch of images of intimidating blacks and Latinos in an urban area? It clearly worked, as the video has almost 24 million views as of the time I’m writing this. It’s not explicitly racist, but it’s definitely using race as a tool, and that’s been a smart rhetorical strategy in the United States for a long time-from Abe Lincoln to Lee Atwater to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Race-based persuasion isn’t going away any time soon, not as long as we keep buying into it in droves.

OK, so there is where I get lost. ‘Using race as a tool’ is quite in inference with a dollop of Atwater and Sharpton. That’s pretty over the top.

It’s a very uncomfortable video, no doubt.

67 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 11:50:52am

Apparently started by Ben Shapiro’s horrible wingnut propaganda site: Lena Dunham Describes Sexually Abusing Her Little Sister.

They were both children at the time.

Right wingers have become absolutely hateful monsters with no boundaries at all.

68 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 11:55:08am

Actually, it may have started with this disgusting attack piece at National Review by the guy who wants to execute women who have abortions.

Pathetic Privilege.

These people are filth.

69 teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2014 11:55:10am

The right wing in the US needs to get its collective head out of its ass.

70 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 11:55:31am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Correction note: This article has been modified to correct a typo in the book excerpt incorrectly listing Dunham’s age as seventeen.

Yeah, that’s jus the kind of “mistake” Shapiro would make.

71 bratwurst  Nov 1, 2014 11:59:33am

It appears that Dunham in on the cover of the current issue of National Review. You can understand why she was obviously the most important story for them to cover right now.

72 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 12:00:20pm
As National Review’s Kevin D. Williamson notes….

Nope. Not gonna read that slimeball right now, I’m in a good mood.

73 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 12:02:24pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, that’s jus the kind of “mistake” Shapiro would make.

Yeah I don’t buy that as a “mistake” at all. Fucking sexist hacks at NR.

74 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 12:03:32pm

re: #71 bratwurst

It appears that Dunham in on the cover of the current issue of National Review. You can understand why she was obviously the most important story for them to cover right now.

I can see why she scares them. She’s a confident young woman. They don’t like those two words together at NR.

75 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 12:03:50pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Actually, it may have started with this disgusting attack piece at National Review by the guy who wants to execute women who have abortions.

Pathetic Privilege.

These people are filth.

Ladies and Gentleman, please pay attention to the big ring.

This IS your Republican Party.

76 HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2014 12:06:14pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Ladies and Gentleman, please pay attention to the big ring.

This IS your Republican Party.

And this is why I will never be a conservative.

77 team_fukit  Nov 1, 2014 12:18:46pm

I think it’s more likely that Attkisson’s computer became self-aware and developed journalistic ethics

78 De Kolta Chair  Nov 1, 2014 12:19:19pm


“Tsk tsk.”

79 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 12:19:40pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

And this is why I will never be a conservative.

As I’ve said in the past. I am center left and have voted for decent Republican candidates, especially back in the 70s and into the 80 as many a local, state, and even national election the Dems have run some stiffs.

But no way today. The GOP have gone crazy and there really is no one there I can support. And the biggest reason is since the TeaParty, they have to kiss up to even more crazy crap and so even a sensible GOPer (are there any?) has to join in the kissing, selling out their own soul in the process.

In other words…today I don’t care what a Republican says, they are burdened to be representative of the whole GOP package. If someone tries to be moderate he gets shot down. And no one seems to stand up to any of it, which means they are worthless and fall into lock step.

It’s the old ‘one bad apple spoils the whole bunch’ thing. Since they have way more than one bad apple…the whole party fast became rotten to the core.

80 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 12:24:49pm

So, my grandmother has been admitted to an assisted living home while she undergoes treatment for bone cancer. Even if the treatment is successful, she’s probably only looking at months. She’s been a real bitch to my mother over the years, and was down right nasty to my mom after my Dad died, but she’s my last living grandparent.

I’ve decided this growing older thing sucks.

81 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 12:34:21pm
82 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 12:39:42pm
83 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 12:41:38pm
84 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 12:42:06pm

re: #66 BigPapa

The point is not that something should not be discussed. The discussion is in fact ongoing. The point is that because of the way the video was made, not discussing the racial component is not an option. And that some people who object to the video may have legitimate reasons for this. For instance, Denise Oliver-Velez of DK, a pretty prominent anti-racist activist as well as a feminist, outright called the video racist. I assure you it wasn’t because of sexism on her part, even if I don’t necessarily share the judgment.

85 EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2014 12:52:06pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

All that the GOP has is sleazy tricks and lies. After all, the truth (i.e., that the GOP has become a party run by rich sociopaths who get votes by pandering to a bigoted and resentful base) isn’t a vote-getter.

Most unfortunately, sleazy tricks and lies are quite effective, especially with a Democratic party that is badly compromised on the issue of plutocracy and a media establishment that is worse than useless.

86 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 12:52:26pm

re: #84 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

The point is not that something should not be discussed. The discussion is in fact ongoing. The point is that because of the way the video was made, not discussing the racial component is not an option.

I agree. Don’t agree that it’s racist, but I’m white and can acknowledge others will feel differently about it.

87 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 12:57:43pm
88 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 12:59:15pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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Apparently started by Ben Shapiro’s horrible wingnut propaganda site: Lena Dunham Describes Sexually Abusing Her Little Sister.

They were both children at the time.

Right wingers have become absolutely hateful monsters with no boundaries at all.

Over at National Review, their calling for her to be prosecuted for rape. Yep, the same people who think date rape is a made up problem, want to through Lena Dunham in jail for something that happened when she was 7!

89 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 1:00:42pm

re: #87 Kragar

90 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 1:04:19pm
91 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 1:05:13pm

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

Finally some govt efficiency.//

92 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 1:08:51pm

Can one believe in the Protocols and not be antisemitic? Kent Hovind believes they’re authentic yet not written by Jews. Hmm.

93 Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2014 1:10:11pm

BTW, I finally watched Attkisson’s video above with sound. Jesus Christ on a crutch, you can hear the key clicking sound. Are these people really that stupid? Are they?

94 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 1:10:40pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

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Now playing in the theatre on the right:

Chuck Norris kick-starts voters

A puff piece on how wonderful it was to have Chuck in their little neighborhood, pandering for Greg Abbott.

95 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 1:11:38pm

re: #93 Ace-o-aces

BTW, I finally watched Attkisson’s video above with sound. Jesus Christ on a crutch, you can hear the key clicking sound. Are these people really that stupid? Are they?

I love the soft spoken meek ‘stop, stop.’

96 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 1:12:41pm

re: #94 freetoken

Chuck was hit in the head a few times too many.

97 De Kolta Chair  Nov 1, 2014 1:13:04pm

OT, but got a political flyer in the mail today from a third-party progressive attacking my progressive assemblyperson for being insufficiently progressive. He almost had me sold until he spelled judgment as judgement.

98 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 1:15:02pm

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Chuck was hit in the head a few times too many.

He is now a religious con-man, with many marks.

99 EmmaAnne  Nov 1, 2014 1:15:18pm

re: #97 De Kolta Chair

Got a political flyer in the mail today from a third-party progressive attacking my progressive NY Assemblyperson for being insufficiently progressive. He almost had me sold until he spelled judgment as judgement.

British, huh?

100 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 1:15:27pm

re: #93 Ace-o-aces

Yes, they really are that stupid.

101 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2014 1:16:45pm

re: #78 De Kolta Chair

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“Tsk tsk.”

I remember watching her during OIF footage… there was one time at like 3AM when she thought her mic was cut off (she was in Iraq IIRC), and every other word out of her mouth was a curse. She has quite a mouth on her. :)

102 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 1:18:36pm
103 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 1:19:18pm

re: #93 Ace-o-aces

BTW, I finally watched Attkisson’s video above with sound. Jesus Christ on a crutch, you can hear the key clicking sound. Are these people really that stupid? Are they?

Everyone knows that if you’re getting hacked, if you type on your keyboard you can get the combo-breaker

104 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 1:20:03pm

Considering the lifespan of memes, I can’t help but think that, in five years, people are gonna look back at Gamergate and wonder “What the fuck were these morons on about?”

105 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 1:20:15pm

Seriously, if you really think you’re getting “hacked”, disconnect your fucking PC from the network, you moron.

106 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 1:24:01pm

re: #105 Kragar

Seriously, if you really think you’re getting “hacked”, disconnect your fucking PC from the network, you moron.

This assumes they know it can be disconnected and still work.:)

107 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 1:25:08pm

It will be really funny if it turns out that the computer was actually disconnected.

108 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 1, 2014 1:28:10pm

My new camera arrived right on time. Took it out for a spin, of course a new camera takes a little getting used to. But hey maybe macro is a good way to start.

Cropped way in

Original image

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2014 1:30:02pm

re: #41 Skip Intro

First they went after Orly Taitz, then Butterdezillion, and now Atkinson.

All your keyboards belong to us.

(In case you haven’t been following the harrowing adventures of Butterbutt at the hands of The Regime, here’s the latest:

Note that The Regime has diabolically changed her “g” key to a “q”, apparently without her even noticing.

”q” is the new tinfoil…

110 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 1:36:39pm
111 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 1:37:06pm

As if some the government would delete words in file, while she was editing it, and not delete the entire file, or melt her hard drive, or give her 37 viruses.

They would ship her off to a FEMA camp.

112 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 1:38:19pm

We got between a quarter and a half inch of rain - pretty meager, but it was the first decent amount in a long time.

Just in time, too, for the loquats are blooming. Hopefully this season will be better than the last.

113 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Nov 1, 2014 1:38:58pm

Just catching up on The Walking Dead. Season 5 looks like it might not be awful. Anyone else hoping that

ther person Darryl tells to “come on out” is going to be Morgan?

114 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 1:41:41pm

re: #110 Kragar

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What, not box wine?

115 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 1:43:13pm

re: #113 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just catching up on The Walking Dead. Season 5 looks like it might not be awful. Anyone else hoping that

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cant wait to see him again.

116 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 1:44:25pm

Don’t know if anyone caught this, but the Moonie Times on Thursday ran a story in its “Health” section that basically attributes the decrease in ebola cases in Liberia to… preachers warning against God judging the country for homosexuality.

Really.

Liberia’s men of God predicted Ebola death toll as God’s punishment for gays

117 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2014 1:45:34pm

re: #107 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

It will be really funny if it turns out that the computer was actually disconnected.

Reminds me of this guy.

Youtube Video

118 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2014 1:48:15pm

re: #113 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just catching up on The Walking Dead. Season 5 looks like it might not be awful. Anyone else hoping that

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TAINTED MEAT!!!!!!!!

119 BigPapa  Nov 1, 2014 1:50:06pm

CTISON:

Southern Baptists for Todd Kincannon Facebook Page

Can’t Tell If Satire Or Not

120 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 1:50:21pm

re: #102 Kragar

I just read the comments (I know, I know) on Colbert’s facebook page about this. Jesus. No, it’s not at all about women hating, no it’s about the woman Colbert interviewed not being a “real” gamer and “journalism!”.

The fact is, there are more than a few men in this world who hate women and think they must be under male dominance and control or else. This whole thing makes me glad I never played any freaking computer or console games ever. I’m not missing anything it seems. I’ll take my chances hiking with my dog and in the garden. From the sound of things, some of these assholes could use some time outdoors too. Just. Yuck.

121 De Kolta Chair  Nov 1, 2014 1:50:21pm

re: #99 EmmaAnne

British, huh?

Or possibly Canadian, eh?

122 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 1:51:00pm
123 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Nov 1, 2014 1:53:31pm

Way OT, and a bit of a drive-by. I woke up to my next door neighbor’s newly planted landscaping.

3 Scott Walker signs. Yep, not one, not two, but three. I know she’s a bit of an old, land owning(many rentals) teabagger, but damn.

I’m not snowblowing her sidewalk anymore. Take that!

124 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 1:55:36pm

re: #120 A Mom Anon

Its not about games, its about people who think they get to dictate every aspect of an activity and will attack anyone who speaks against them.

125 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:02:41pm

Page is up.

Already spoiled myself, and Moffat is a fucking liar. Again.

126 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 2:03:33pm

re: #124 Kragar

Its not about games, its about people who think they get to dictate every aspect of an activity and will attack anyone who speaks against them.

I thought it was about ethics in gaming journalism.

127 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 2:04:55pm

re: #124 Kragar

I get that, it’s just that as a woman, I wouldn’t even want to step into that realm knowing so many snakes were in that particular patch of grass. I know assholes are everywhere, but when they can remain anonymous it seems to give a lot of people free license to be awful. It happens in other places too, witness the catcall video of the woman just walking around NYC and guys thinking what they’re doing is just fine. It’s not, it’s terrifying. It won’t end until other men join the fight and get in the faces of these assholes. Across the board. Women have altered their lives in the name of safety since, well, forever and it doesn’t stop men from thinking we’re nothing more than property. This won’t disappear from the culture until men address it, all our efforts as women won’t fix this crap. Gamergate is just a symptom of a much larger disease.

128 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 2:06:04pm

re: #125 The War TARDIS

I’ve not seen the latest episode, but all season long it has been pretty clear, from snippets in the episodes and statements by the Doctor, that something is a wee bit off about the current journeys with his current companion.

Notably the references to “Heaven”, and the Doctor’s statements about physical realities (like the age of the moon), which are a bit too far outside reality for a not-really-serious series like Dr. Who.

129 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:09:14pm

re: #128 freetoken

Missy is exactly who you think she is.

130 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 2:10:01pm

re: #129 The War TARDIS

Spoiler tag error (it is not plural).

131 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:12:03pm

re: #130 freetoken

I deleted and fixed it.

Do you get my drift?

132 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 2:13:47pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

I’ll wait to view the episode.

133 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:13:58pm

Also, this blows open the door for a Female Doctor next time.

134 Kragar  Nov 1, 2014 2:15:17pm

re: #127 A Mom Anon

I get that, it’s just that as a woman, I wouldn’t even want to step into that realm knowing so many snakes were in that particular patch of grass. I know assholes are everywhere, but when they can remain anonymous it seems to give a lot of people free license to be awful. It happens in other places too, witness the catcall video of the woman just walking around NYC and guys thinking what they’re doing is just fine. It’s not, it’s terrifying. It won’t end until other men join the fight and get in the faces of these assholes. Across the board. Women have altered their lives in the name of safety since, well, forever and it doesn’t stop men from thinking we’re nothing more than property. This won’t disappear from the culture until men address it, all our efforts as women won’t fix this crap. Gamergate is just a symptom of a much larger disease.

I play video games. My wife and both my girls play video games. I take these assholes deadly seriously and I know lots of other male gamers who are completely disgusted by this scum. The gamergaters are losers and women haters who have latched onto the identity of gamers in attempt to shield themselves from criticism.

135 urbanmeemaw  Nov 1, 2014 2:19:27pm

re: #64 missliberties

I return your curses with kisses! That is now the protocol of the NewWorldOrder!

Hey, Dudes and Dudettes! This isn’t the first time someone said the NSA was haunting his computer. Remember one of the Guardian’s Greatest Hits courtesy of “author/reporter? Luke Harding:

theguardian.com

Also, too, Sharyl now works at Sinclair (“Fox Light”) a hyper partisan right wing broadcasting company and you will be shocked, shocked I tell you to learn that she has just published her new book.

136 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 2:24:18pm

I bagged up and tied the knot really tight on my leftover halloween candy.

137 Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2014 2:27:50pm

re: #129 The War TARDIS

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So I was right all those weeks back? Moffat really is that unoriginal?

138 prairiefire  Nov 1, 2014 2:28:47pm

re: #136 Stanley Seabola

I bagged up and tied the knot really tight on my leftover halloween candy.

Hee, my girl loves those damn eyeballs! Donated the m&m’s and kit kats to the Vets at DAR meeting today. Also, some underwear and paperback books.


Don’t forget our Vets in your holiday charitable giving, folks!

139 ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2014 2:29:36pm

re: #135 urbanmeemaw

Hey, Dudes and Dudettes! This isn’t the first time someone said the NSA was haunting his computer. Remember one of the Guardian’s Greatest Hits courtesy of “author/reporter? Luke Harding:

theguardian.com

Also, too, Sharyl now works at Sinclair (“Fox Light”) a hyper partisan right wing broadcasting company and you will be shocked, shocked I tell you to learn that she has just published her new book.

Ah, the familiar cry of the right wing pundits and media.

“Won’t You Buy My Book, Please”

140 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 1, 2014 2:31:12pm

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

My new camera arrived right on time. Took it out for a spin, of course a new camera takes a little getting used to. But hey maybe macro is a good way to start.

Cropped way in

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Very nice! I’ve been looking at different ones for Christmas. I’m loving the Nikon D5300. Which one did you get?

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2014 2:35:08pm

re: #93 Ace-o-aces

BTW, I finally watched Attkisson’s video above with sound. Jesus Christ on a crutch, you can hear the key clicking sound. Are these people really that stupid? Are they?

No, they think everyone else is that stupid.

142 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 2:40:17pm

It’s just a matter of time before Chuck jumps on the Lena Dunham witch hunt train.

143 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 2:40:49pm

Twitter is in full-on “BURN HER!” mode, and it’s not just right wingers.

144 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 2:41:40pm

This is one of those days I’m kind of grossed out by Twitter.

145 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:43:02pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

With what I know about the Episode, I think Clara and Danny leave at Christmas. Then, possibly “Missy” becomes the next companion.

146 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 2:43:03pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

This is one of those days I’m kind of grossed out by Twitter.

147 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 2:43:50pm

re: #145 The War TARDIS

Your spoiler tag’s borked…

148 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 1, 2014 2:46:12pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

That’s the Canon 7D II. These must be some of the first production model images online, I had pre ordered through LGF. It shipped overnight to me Friday. Just now got some images of hummingbirds, but the flash may not work at 1/4000th of a second despite a high speed function.

149 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 2:47:10pm

OK, I decided to learn who Lena Dunham is. Opened wiki:

According to her book, she began molesting her sister when she was seven. Media response was swift, but the communist media defended her perversions. [31]

*eyeroll*

150 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 2:47:10pm

I’m not even a fan of Lena Dunham, but this huge pile-on is really hitting me the wrong way.

151 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 2:49:00pm

re: #147 TedStriker

Your spoiler tag’s borked…

Fixed it.

152 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 2:49:21pm

re: #149 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

That change has already been reverted.

153 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 2:49:29pm

Seems like a habitual troll.

en.wikipedia.org

154 urbanmeemaw  Nov 1, 2014 2:51:45pm

OT, but McConnell has engaged in some last minute slinging of the slop and the Grimes’ campaign is fighting back:

politicususa.com

155 alpuzzzzz (I, R & sometimes why?)  Nov 1, 2014 2:56:36pm

re: #154 urbanmeemaw

As is Walker & company & Burke is fighting back.

uppitywis.org

Youtube Video

156 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 1, 2014 3:02:53pm

157 The War TARDIS  Nov 1, 2014 3:04:59pm

re: #156 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Wooooowwwwww. That’s awful in too many ways to mention.

158 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Nov 1, 2014 3:06:44pm

re: #134 Kragar

I play video games. My wife and both my girls play video games. I take these assholes deadly seriously and I know lots of other male gamers who are completely disgusted by this scum. The gamergaters are losers and women haters who have latched onto the identity of gamers in attempt to shield themselves from criticism.

But surely you want to see this MRA expose of Anita Sarkeesian?

I mean, noted YouTuber Davis Aurini owns multiple skulls, and prominently features them in the background of his hard-hitting documentary. And he’s the douchebag triple threat—racist, sexist, Objectivist.

[Note: links to anti-MRA site WeHuntedThe Mammoth]

159 A Mom Anon  Nov 1, 2014 3:09:01pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea (R)

I think I’ll just stay out of this one. More power to all of you who play and enjoy the gaming thing. I just never found it entertaining or interesting, but that’s just me. I’ll throw on the hiking boots and stfu about it.

160 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 3:09:55pm
161 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 3:09:58pm

re: #148 Rightwingconspirator

Didn’t know Canon had finally put out the replacement. I’ve been out of the loop for a while.

Honestly, I suppose I’d be using an old 4x5 if I were still into imaging.

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 3:10:42pm

My co-workers will hate me on Monday, but I picked up two 1 lb bags of Smarties for a $1.

163 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 3:14:25pm

So, why do creationists claim that they want schools to teach both creationism and evolution?

Perhaps here’s why:

The relative importance of religion and education on university students’ views of evolution in the Deep South and state science standards across the United States

Background

There is a negative relationship between education and religiosity and a positive relationship between education and acceptance of evolution, but how this manifests in college students who differ in degree of religiosity and prior educational experiences is unclear. We focused our study on the relative importance of education and religion on evolution understanding for college students at a large, public university in the Deep South.

[…]

Results

We found that the degree of religiosity mattered significantly more than education when predicting students’ understanding of evolution. When we focused on acceptance of evolution only, students taught evolution or neither evolution nor creationism in high school had significantly higher acceptance than those taught both evolution and creationism or just creationism. Science majors always outscored non-science majors, and not religious students significantly outperformed religious students. Highly religious students were more likely to reject evolution even though they understood that the scientific community accepted the theory of evolution.

Overall, students in two of three biology classes increased their acceptance of evolution, but only those students that seldom/never attended religious services improved. K-12 state science standard grades were significantly and negatively correlated with measures of state religiosity and significantly and positively correlated with measures of state educational attainment.

Conclusions

Religiosity, rather than education, best explains views on evolution. In areas of the country where the vast majority of residents believe in God and the literal truth of the Bible, students may be hampered as they enter and progress through college. These same states tend to have lower state science standards and lower levels of educational attainment.

164 jaunte  Nov 1, 2014 3:17:38pm

re: #163 freetoken

Creationism: an easy way to make yourself believe you’re a better Christian than the Pope.

165 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 1, 2014 3:19:06pm

re: #148 Rightwingconspirator

That’s the Canon 7D II. These must be some of the first production model images online, I had pre ordered through LGF. It shipped overnight to me Friday. Just now got some images of hummingbirds, but the flash may not work at 1/4000th of a second despite a high speed function.

That’s a nice camera but a little out of my price range. I’ve been reading reviews and the D5300 keeps showing up as one of the best. I like the red one too.

166 freetoken  Nov 1, 2014 3:22:37pm

re: #164 jaunte

I checked out the website linked in that tweet.

Quite the collection of creationist tropes about evolution, complete with misunderstanding about “mitochondrial Eve”.

As noted by many researchers, creationists are choosing to reject science. While many of said researchers don’t follow up with the reason why, to me it seems obvious that the answer is that creationists are afraid.

167 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 3:23:58pm

re: #166 freetoken

I checked out the website linked in that tweet.

Quite the collection of creationist tropes about evolution, complete with misunderstanding about “mitochondrial Eve”.

As noted by many researchers, creationists are choosing to reject science. While many of said researchers don’t follow up with the reason why, to me it seems obvious that the answer is that creationists are afraid.

No snake, no reason to live.

168 jonhendry  Nov 1, 2014 3:27:39pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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They were both children at the time.

Of course, sexual abuse between children *does* happen, but this seems more about fairly normal anatomical curiosity, rather than out of any kind of attempt at sexual gratification.

169 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 3:32:01pm

re: #167 Stanley Seabola

No snake, no reason to live.

Exactly. I’ve often heard people say, here in the buckle of the “Bible Belt” things like “IF you say that Creation is just a story, then what else is just a story?” and “If Adam and Eve didn’t fall from Paradise, there is no reason for Jesus”. To NOT accept literal creation is to jeopardize everything their worldview is built on.

Scary Stuff.

RBS

170 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 1, 2014 3:32:30pm

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

That’s a nice camera but a little out of my price range. I’ve been reading reviews and the D5300 keeps showing up as one of the best. I like the red one too.

Most of the pictures I’ve been posting for the past year or so were taken with a D3200. The macro shots are using a macro setting with the standard lens.

171 jaunte  Nov 1, 2014 3:32:33pm

172 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 1, 2014 3:37:43pm

re: #170 Feline Fearless Leader

Most of the pictures I’ve been posting for the past year or so were taken with a D3200. The macro shots are using a macro setting with the standard lens.

I told my wife it’s either that or an XBox. I’m all about the camera. She said the kids might like the video game system. I have a feeling they will have to wait.

173 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 1, 2014 3:46:23pm

re: #165 NJDhockeyfan

That’s a very good camera. I have to step up to get the paid gigs. Nikon is as good as any.

174 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 3:49:57pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

That’s a very good camera. I have to step up to get the paid gigs. Nikon is as good as anyone.

175 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 3:50:37pm

re: #168 jonhendry

I just find it pretty ugly that so many people are judging Dunham for things she did when she was seven years old and younger. As I said, I’m not even a fan and I have no desire to read the book, but the excerpts I’ve seen don’t really seem all that outrageous to me - and they happened when she was a child.

This is one of the worst things about Twitter, these mob pile-ons of judgmental scolds.

176 Teukka  Nov 1, 2014 4:00:41pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

I just find it pretty ugly that so many people are judging Dunham for things she did when she was seven years old and younger. As I said, I’m not even a fan and I have no desire to read the book, but the excerpts I’ve seen don’t really seem all that outrageous to me - and they happened when she was a child.

This is one of the worst things about Twitter, these mob pile-ons of judgmental scolds.

What’s worse is that every over-reaction like this clearly seems to be makes it that more harder for victims of sexual abuse to come forward and to be taken seriously.
I find myself wondering whether it is an unfortunate side-effect of the righties behavior, or if that effect is in fact intended?

177 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 4:09:22pm

FLORIDA GATORS BEAT GEORGIA

my life is good.

en.wikipedia.org

178 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 4:11:39pm

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

179 Teukka  Nov 1, 2014 4:14:39pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

I would. I’ve seen the damage behavior like the one the righties are engaging in right now causes. No-one deserves that, not even a conservative.

180 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 4:14:41pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

it would be the same.

There’s a whole ‘nother discussion about childhood sexual experimentation.

It has happened since the snake.

181 Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2014 4:15:15pm

Wasn’t there a story a couple months ago where some idiot (possibly from The Intercept) claimed he tried to carry on conversations with someone who had hacked his computer (and conveniently was using the backspace button to delete his report on computer surveillance or some such)? His claim was thoroughly mocked on here but I can’t find the post.

182 andres  Nov 1, 2014 4:15:52pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

Yes.

183 Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2014 4:19:05pm

re: #181 Timothy Watson

D’oh, if I had looked in the Related Story box I would have seen the link.

184 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 4:20:23pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

Yes, and that was an incredibly stupid question. Your partisan cock-neckery is showing.

Of course for several reasons it would be very unlike a conservative woman or man to make this kind of admission in the first place. First there’s the generalized shame over human sexuality on the right, especially regarding child sexual development issues and homosexual contact and experimentation. Second, Dunham’s admission was a confession of sorts, something she clearly wasn’t proud of and conservatives don’t like to openly confront the uglier aspects of things they’ve done in the past, even if they occurred when they were children. They prefer to bury such things and dwell on either their successes, or the wounds inflicted on them by others. This is because conservatives generally aren’t big on introspection, they prefer to externalize their problems, and react instead of reflect.

185 Dark_Falcon  Nov 1, 2014 4:20:27pm

re: #179 Teukka

re: #180 Stanley Seabola

re: #182 andres

Good, glad to hear that..

BBL

186 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 4:21:09pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

Oh please.

187 EPR-radar  Nov 1, 2014 4:24:55pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’ve only got about ten minutes before I have to go, but I really need to ask this question:

Would folks here currently saying Lena Dunham is being maligned still be saying that if we were talking about something a conservative woman had done to her younger sister as a child?

This is a stupid and offensive question, as others have already well-explained. The only thing I’ll add is that it is categorically impossible for a child to be a movement conservative, so slamming the child for the sins of the adult would never be appropriate.

188 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 4:27:09pm

I generally think Dunham is kind of self absorbed and rather irritating, even as I recognize she has a certain level of writing talent, is clearly driven, organized, and has earned her level of professional success.

This is her Obama ate dog meat moment. The right doesn’t give a shit about the context or how old she was when it happened. She’s confessing to something that they never, ever would confess to. And many of the people condemning her, I’m certain, have much more egregious and horrible skeletons in their closets.

189 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 4:30:10pm

Are youse guys all hypocrites? I’m just asking questions here. Inquiring minds bitches!

190 bratwurst  Nov 1, 2014 4:30:36pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

it is categorically impossible for a child to be a movement conservative

Is it?

191 Randall Gross  Nov 1, 2014 4:30:39pm

Huckabee calls for investigation

Video

192 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 4:32:50pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

I generally think Dunham is kind of self absorbed and rather irritating, even as I recognize she has a certain level of writing talent, is clearly driven, organized, and has earned her level of professional success.

This is her Obama ate dog meat moment. The right doesn’t give a shit about the context or how old she was when it happened. She’s confessing to something that they never, ever would confess to. And many of the people condemning her, I’m certain, have much more egregious and horrible skeletons in their closets.

Every kid. Maybe even our Falcon, has had a childhood sexual inquisitive moment. She was honest, they hate her. Full steam ahead RWNJ’s

193 Resident of The United States of Jesus  Nov 1, 2014 4:35:14pm

Fucking puritans we pretend to be.

It’s hilarious actually.

194 jaunte  Nov 1, 2014 4:36:37pm

Children will do things that shock their elders. A huge surprise to anyone who avoids thinking about it.

195 BeachDem  Nov 1, 2014 4:37:01pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

I generally think Dunham is kind of self absorbed and rather irritating, even as I recognize she has a certain level of writing talent, is clearly driven, organized, and has earned her level of professional success.

This is her Obama ate dog meat moment. The right doesn’t give a shit about the context or how old she was when it happened. She’s confessing to something that they never, ever would confess to. And many of the people condemning her, I’m certain, have much more egregious and horrible skeletons in their closets.

It didn’t help that Bennie’s little truthy site first staged their outrage with the misinformation that she was 17, not 7, when it happened.

I’m not a Lena Dunham fan—I think she is talented, but a total attention-seeker, and I’m guessing she included some of the “outrageous” anecdotes in her book just to troll.

Also—are the rightwingers really slow readers? The book’s been out for more than a month. Why are they losing their shit about it now?

196 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 4:38:50pm

re: #192 Stanley Seabola

Every kid. Maybe even our Falcon, has had a childhood sexual inquisitive moment. She was honest, they hate her. Full steam ahead RWNJ’s

You’ll notice that liberals never condemned Ben Shapiro for all the perverted things he did with that Armadillo carcass, and nobody ever mentions why CCJ was banned from SeaWorld.

You could say it’s because I just made that shit up, but still, nobody ever mentions it.

197 jamesfirecat  Nov 1, 2014 4:41:35pm

re: #192 Stanley Seabola

Every kid. Maybe even our Falcon, has had a childhood sexual inquisitive moment. She was honest, they hate her. Full steam ahead RWNJ’s

I was shocked to discover through sexed classes that girls didn’t have a penis, it was just so useful that my mind was blown to the point that I thought about asking my mom to show me the thing she had in place of it, then I thought better.

198 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 4:41:56pm

re: #195 BeachDem

It didn’t help that Bennie’s little truthy site first staged their outrage with the misinformation that she was 17, not 7, when it happened.

I’m not a Lena Dunham fan—I think she is talented, but a total attention-seeker, and I’m guessing she included some of the “outrageous” anecdotes in her book just to troll.

Also—are the rightwingers really slow readers? The book’s been out for more than a month. Why are they losing their shit about it now?

No, because they tend to ban books they don’t like (or that are written by people they don’t like), rather than read them.

It took this long because they had to wait on their marching orders talking points…

199 goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2014 4:43:47pm

I’ve only got ten minutes here, but I really need to ask if you prog fuckers are defending this sicko bitch because she’s a liberal or because there was a genuine lack of capacity to understand harm at play.

What? How is that offensive?

200 TedStriker  Nov 1, 2014 4:47:58pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’m breaking my own GAZE rule IRT you, but I just had to reply to this, because it’s so mindnumbingly partisan and dumb.

Why is it that I’m not surprised that you would turn this into “librul vs. conservative”? That you laid this turd, then ducked out, doesn’t shock me at all anymore.

201 jaunte  Nov 1, 2014 4:48:11pm

Twitter:
A lot of people who would question the reliability of eyewitness testimony in a courtroom are questioning the details of a recounted memory of something that happened when the narrator was 7 years old.

202 De Kolta Chair  Nov 1, 2014 4:48:15pm

203 Romantic Heretic  Nov 1, 2014 4:50:40pm

re: #167 Stanley Seabola

No snake, no reason to live.

Nothing stopping them from being evil. Without God (Allah to Zeus) to judge them they would have no moral compass.

Of course they’re lying about God (Allah to Zeus) being the lodestar. They simply decide God doesn’t like what they don’t like and use that excuse to judge others.

204 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 4:56:35pm

I almost have to hand it to Williamson and Shapiro. They knew exactly which buttons to push to make this into a big meltdown, and they actually got it to cross party lines this time.

This is the difference between the right and left, by the way — when some horrible thing is revealed about a right winger, you’ll NEVER see the general right wing population freaking out about it. Nope, they’ll line up to defend whoever’s being attacked, no matter what they’ve done. Every time, without fail.

I find it embarrassing that so many liberals are letting themselves be trolled by these right wing misogynists.

205 Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2014 5:05:55pm

Were characters Phillip Marlowe and Sam Spade a composite of a real LA African American P.I. in the 1930s named Samuel Marlowe ?

The LA Times has done a great graphical piece on this, if you can get through the pay wall. Fascinating stuff.

graphics.latimes.com

206 Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2014 5:10:08pm

I stopped following a few people today who were obsessively tweeting about Lena Dunham and her “sexual abuse.” And I blocked another one who freaked out at me when I posted that Dunham and her sister were children at the time.

There’s a big red streak of prudery in America that always surprises me when it erupts in public, and it’s not a right/left thing. There’s still some kind of weird Puritan mentality that a lot of people have, even the ones who like to front as champions of personal freedom.

207 RealityBasedEbola  Nov 1, 2014 5:15:20pm

Something light and fun on Saturday night…

A morph of Dim Jim and upChucky

The Love Child of Dim Jim and upChucky

208 retired cynic  Nov 1, 2014 5:17:41pm

re: #207 RealityBasedEbola

Yergh!

209 Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2014 5:17:58pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

I stopped following a few people today who were obsessively tweeting about Lena Dunham and her “sexual abuse.” And I blocked another one who freaked out at me when I posted that Dunham and her sister were children at the time.

There’s a big red streak of prudery in America that always surprises me when it erupts in public, and it’s not a right/left thing. There’s still some kind of weird Puritan mentality that a lot of people have, even the ones who like to front as champions of personal freedom.

The bluenoses want to get sex out of the media and back into the Motel 6 where it belongs.

210 b_sharp  Nov 1, 2014 5:21:45pm

re: #164 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Creationism: an easy way to make yourself believe you’re a better Christian than the Pope.

It’s a bunch of Brother Eli cult groupies.

211 Ebolangelus  Nov 1, 2014 6:05:13pm

re: #207 RealityBasedEbola

Something light and fun on Saturday night…

A morph of Dim Jim and upChucky

The Love Child of Dim Jim and upChucky

Gah, my eyes!!

212 Green Alien  Nov 3, 2014 9:28:48am

re: #42 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

LOL. You need to warn people. Now there is coffee everywhere. :-)

213 Hrungnir  Nov 7, 2014 6:19:20am

I love it when the delusional join together in a circle jerk fest! And no, I don’t mean Sheryl Attkisson and Fox News; I’m referring to all of you. You know nothing of the art of Information Operations and the value of PsyOps. Her machines weren’t just hacked, they were hijacked. We do it all the time and you’d be amazed at just how effective it is in shutting people up. “Bush would do it, but not Obama! No, never…” Keep deluding yourselves.

214 Varek Raith  Nov 7, 2014 7:00:21am

re: #213 Hrungnir

Oh please.

215 Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2014 8:52:09am

re: #213 Hrungnir

“We do it all the time?”

Who’s “we?” You have a mouse in your pocket?

216 Eventual Carrion  Nov 7, 2014 9:26:20am

re: #213 Hrungnir

I love it when the delusional join together in a circle jerk fest! And no, I don’t mean Sheryl Attkisson and Fox News; I’m referring to all of you. You know nothing of the art of Information Operations and the value of PsyOps. Her machines weren’t just hacked, they were hijacked. We do it all the time and you’d be amazed at just how effective it is in shutting people up. “Bush would do it, but not Obama! No, never…” Keep deluding yourselves.

Come play with the rest of “us”. “We” left this article days ago. Afraid someone might hack you if you make comments on a current thread?


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