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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:25:03am

Oh, right-wing heads ‘sploding: “I’m enjoying this. What other arguments have you heard in opposition to the deal that I haven’t touched on yet?” Yeah, this is the guy conservatives think somehow got to law school on affirmative action….. he’s in his absolute element here.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:26:52am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:28:19am

I can’t stand all these people who think we should just roll in to Iraq/Iran/Syria/Libya/Saudi Arabia/etc/etc and firebomb ISIS into the stone age. Like it would just be so fucking easy to go in and get rid of them. We couldn’t get it right when we tried with a single country, how disastrous would it be if we tried to do it with an entire REGION.

Also, simple numbers game shows that even if EVERY interested, healthy and able to serve citizen in America were conscripted into the military, in addition to those who already serving, the Islamists would still have at least a 4:1 (if not more) advantage against us.

We have to realize that not every Muslim is a bloodthirsty terrorist. But then we have right wing pundits alleging this daily, causing the Muslims to hate us more. Lather, rinse, repeat.

A large scale assault on the middle east to try and destroy ISIS would end in one of two ways, both horrible:

1) Mass American casualties with failure to achieve objective
2) Odds are at least one country involved would launch a nuke at some point

Not to mention that we have no way of paying for a war against ISIS anyway.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:28:43am

Mister president Obama why are you paying planned parenthood to sell baby abortion parts?

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:29:11am
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:30:02am

Major Garrett insults the president and the president puts him in his place. “That’s nonsense.”

Then somebody asks about the Cosby situation. “That’s rape. Does anyone have a relevant question about Iran?”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:30:05am

Mister president did you watch the whole three hour abortion video from experts at Medical Progress and if not why not?

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:31:00am

He still hasn’t addressed the Twitter banning of CCJ yet, either. #JeSuisChuck

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:31:38am

re: #8 darthstar

He still hasn’t addressed the Twitter banning of CCJ yet, either. #JeSuisChuck

Mr. President isn’t shouldn’t Chuck c Johnson have free speech writes on Twitter?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:33:24am

re: #6 darthstar

Then somebody asks about the Cosby situation.

OFFS

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:34:26am

Shorter Obama to the White House press corps:

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:34:53am
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andres  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:35:13am

re: #6 darthstar

Major Garrett insults the president and the president puts him in his place. “That’s nonsense.”

Then somebody asks about the Cosby situation. “That’s rape. Does anyone have a relevant question about Iran?”

He did that? I’m liking him more. A pity he can’t run a third time.

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blueraven  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:35:25am

Obama answered every critique of the Iran deal, with knowledge, logic and offers for critics to come up with a better alternative.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:35:28am

If I was the GOP I’d drop this trafficking in baby parts bit right now. Dick Cheney has a lot to answer for in that regard.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:35:35am

Why didn’t he defend Caitlyn’s ESPY award?

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theliel  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:35:35am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty much all of that. You’d have to cleanse the ME of people to really stop the fighting and….that’s not an acceptable solution.

Instead we should, y’know, work with local partners we can live with and generally do diplomacy.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:36:11am

Words were too big.

Jeb! will not approve.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:36:18am

re: #6 darthstar

Does anyone have a relevant question about Iran?”

[media]TL;dr but we knows its appeasement.[/media]

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:37:39am

*SMFH*

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Dave In Austin  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:40:01am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

*SMFH*

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No reply for that idiot. Not even fun.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:40:22am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:41:44am

Her bio says: “Conservative, but not too much of a jerk about it.” Right.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:42:03am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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I puked.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:43:15am
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whitebeach  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:43:27am

Watched it on CNN. So who does Blitzer bring on immediately afterward for insightful analysis? Huckabee. Yep, Huckabee.

Edit: Sorry, Charles, didn’t mean to step on your toes, just fumbling with my IPhone.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:43:57am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:45:08am

re: #26 whitebeach

Watched it on CNN. So who does Blitzer bring on immediately afterward for insightful analysis? Huckabee. Yep, Huckabee.

Was Tony Perkins unavailable?

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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:45:08am

re: #25 darthstar

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And predictably, that’s what Chuck Todd came away with from the presser. Sigh.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:45:41am

I love that song!

Un-Ameri
Un-Ameri
He was an Un-American
Alllllright! He was an Un-Americaaaaan!

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:47:01am

re: #30 darthstar

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I love that song!

Un-Ameri
Un-Ameri
He was an Un-American
Alllllright! He was an Un-Americaaaaan!

I would like that song a lot better if those were the real words.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:47:08am
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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:47:11am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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You mean those Confederate Flag waving assholes are calling someone else un-American, I can’t believe it. //

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A Cranky One  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:47:42am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

With all the wingnuts raving at you, it’s obvious that you do suck at something: being irrelevant.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:47:57am

SO PATHETIC==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:49:05am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

SO PATHETIC==>

If enough twitbots retweet this tweet Obama will have to resign.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:49:30am

I am loving second term Obama.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:49:53am
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:49:55am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:50:03am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:50:27am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

They can demand with one hand, shit in the other, then see which hand fills up first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:51:30am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

SO PATHETIC==>

We The People Of America Demand Barack Hussein Obama Be Removed From Office Now! Please RT If U Agree!

tell us all about those High Crimes and Misdemeanors that are grave enough to warrant overturning the outcome of two free and fair elections…

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:52:22am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

She apparently is an OathKeeper fan, at least by her article on Bundy on that website she links on her twitter page. A link, btw, that doesn’t work.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:54:41am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

tell us all about those High Crimes and Misdemeanors that are grave enough to warrant overturning the outcome of two free and fair elections…

Don’t have time for that. Elections fail, investigations fail. All else fails, just demand he resign or be replaced by military coup.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:55:36am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

SO PATHETIC==>

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There are some real pathetic people in this country, The GOP should be proud of the joke and trash they have turned their party into.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:56:15am

re: #25 darthstar

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I don’t want that nitwit messing up my chicken!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:56:17am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:56:22am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

tell us all about those High Crimes and Misdemeanors that are grave enough to warrant overturning the outcome of two free and fair elections…

Where there’s smoke there’s a black man setting a fire.

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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:56:45am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

tell us all about those High Crimes and Misdemeanors that are grave enough to warrant overturning the outcome of two free and fair elections…

The lack of such crimes is completely irrelevant. The only relevant fact regarding impeachment is the lack of a 2/3 majority in the Senate for a conviction.

If we ever get a Democratic president with a House GOP majority and 2/3 GOP in the Senate, impeachment proceedings will begin immediately and proceed down the line of succession along party-line votes until the Speaker of the House is reached and installed as POTUS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:56:50am

re: #45 Tigger2

There are some real pathetic people in this country, The GOP should be proud of the joke and trash they have turned their party into.

They had a chance to distance themselves from people like this, but did not want to alienate their base. Now they have been dragged down to that level.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:57:21am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

NoSexMovement WTF??

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:57:46am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

tell us all about those High Crimes and Misdemeanors that are grave enough to warrant overturning the outcome of two free and fair elections…

Coming from the same people who have no problem with Ronald Reagan committing actual treason.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:58:00am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

NoSexMovement WTF??

I don’t even want to know.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:58:20am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

*SMFH*

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2015 • 11:59:56am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

NoSexMovement WTF??

And vice-versa.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:00:16pm
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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:00:22pm

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They had a chance to distance themselves from people like this, but did not want to alienate their base. Now they have been dragged down to that level.

Didn’t have far to go. And I didn’t see any kicking or hear any screaming.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:00:56pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

SO PATHETIC==>

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We, MOST OF THE PEOPLE, want you assholes to shut up and sit down. The grownups are talking.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:01:03pm

Given the military’s propensity for spending excessive amounts of money, I suggest Texas Jade Helm nutters spend less time worrying about Walmart and more time surveilling Neiman Marcus stores.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:01:37pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:02:15pm

Another entry in the GOPers acting like GOP douchebags file, part 1,000,001, subheading Mark Kirk: buzzfeed.com

“This is the greatest appeasement since Chamberlain gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler,” Kirk continued, saying he believed Obama only went through with the deal because he has a poor understanding of history and did not realize appeasement made war more likely. Kirk said he thought the deal meant that Israel would now have to take “military action against Iran.”

Kirk added that he believed the president would make this a “viciously partisan issue,” making it hard to get the votes to stop the deal from going forward.

For a GOPer to talk about vicious partisanship by Obama really takes hypocrisy to entirely new dimensions.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:02:16pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:03:49pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

Another entry in the GOPers acting like GOP douchebags file, part 1,000,001, subheading Mark Kirk: buzzfeed.com

For a GOPer to talk about vicious partisanship by Obama really takes hypocrisy to entirely new dimensions.

One of their talking points is that Obama is a dangerous partisan who somehow divided the nation via Conservative racism, which is just fine and not the problem at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:04:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:04:51pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

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Done.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:04:56pm

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

NoSexMovement WTF??

I think they’re the ones who paid Bristol Palin for her services as an expert on abstinence.

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whitebeach  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:05:39pm

The president answers questions about nuclear policy for over an hour with clarity, logic, and mastery of the subject matter. Dude haz some mad TelePrompTer skilz.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:05:55pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

Another entry in the GOPers acting like GOP douchebags file, part 1,000,001, subheading Mark Kirk: buzzfeed.com

For a GOPer to talk about vicious partisanship by Obama really takes hypocrisy to entirely new dimensions.

From Wikipedia: “In a speech on the floor of the House in 2003, Kirk stated: ‘The last time I was in Iraq I was in uniform, flying at 20,000 feet, and the Iraqi Air Defense network was shooting at us”. Kirk has since clarified his statement, indicating that there is no record of his aircraft being fired upon.[26] ‘I simply misremembered [sic] it wrong’, he told the Chicago Sun-Times, referring to his military record.[27]”

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:06:19pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

“This is the greatest appeasement since Chamberlain gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler,” …

I called this 2 days ago… which is why I have been playing music from 1939, in honor of the Chamberlainization of American policy.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:07:03pm
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Lidane  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:08:26pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I don’t even want to know.

I checked it out. It’s the typical wingnut purity garbage. Either that or it’s a really well done parody.

They have a lot of tweets and FB posts about avoiding sex and masturbation before marriage and that they’re distractions from loving God. Lots of talk about how you can serve God or serve your sex drive, but you can’t do both.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:08:33pm

re: #70 Kragar

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:10:02pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:10:08pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:10:09pm

re: #70 Kragar

Todd Starnes is the kind of pinhead that would approve of any GOPer that would throw a bag of flaming dog crap at the White House front door.

That is pretty much what passes for public policy dispute among Republicans these days.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:11:46pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Todd Starnes is the kind of pinhead that would approve of any GOPer that would throw a bag of flaming dog crap at the White House front door.

That is pretty much what passes for public policy dispute among Republicans these days.

He’s just another fat, stupid Confederate, who would die of a heart attack if he ever had to back up his malicious words in a real fight.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:12:35pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Todd Starnes is the kind of pinhead that would approve of any GOPer that would throw a bag of flaming dog crap at the White House front door.

That is pretty much what passes for public policy dispute among Republicans these days.

Todd Starnes is the professional outrage-monger who makes up fake stories about HURR HURR CHRISTIANS IS BEIN PERSECUTED BY TEH GHEY!!!!!! which then get banged around Teh Twitters.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:13:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:13:41pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:14:18pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Really Todd is just made fun of for being both arrogant and stupid, which is a really bad combination and too common in his subculture. He’s not being persecuted due to being Christian, but for being an UpChuck kind of guy.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:15:41pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Hush! Maybe some of them won’t reproduce.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:15:47pm
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Franklin  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:16:14pm

#NoSexMovement is people saving sex for marriage, or Christ, or whatever.

This is all I could think of:

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Kilroy01  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:16:46pm

Off topic..

The “It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad Max Fury Road” Mashup Trailer is Why the Internet Was Invented

Video

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Mike Lamb  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:17:14pm

#nosexmovement?? I didn’t realize how prescient my high school social life was…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:17:50pm

re: #39 darthstar

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No questions about ol’ Josh Dugger child bugger.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:20:13pm

Note to Appeasement! screamers:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:21:06pm

re: #87 De Kolta Chair

I forgot about that.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:21:16pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

The lack of such crimes is completely irrelevant. The only relevant fact regarding impeachment is the lack of a 2/3 majority in the Senate for a conviction.

If we ever get a Democratic president with a House GOP majority and 2/3 GOP in the Senate, impeachment proceedings will begin immediately and proceed down the line of succession along party-line votes until the Speaker of the House is reached and installed as POTUS.

And if they blatantly did that, I would be the one taking up arms.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:23:08pm
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:23:26pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:23:42pm

This is from 2012, but I just saw it last night so I’m going to assume many of you haven’t seen it either. It’s a perfect example of extreme homophobic delusional wingnuttery. Watch the expressions on the face of guy in the background to the left of the woman—they’re priceless:

Video

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:23:50pm

We take this break from GOP insanity, Major Garrett dumbassery, and anti-choice video hackery to give you….

Pluto:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:23:57pm
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:25:43pm

re: #83 Franklin

#NoSexMovement is people saving sex for marriage, or Christ, or whatever.

This is all I could think of:

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I took a picture of the back of a bus in Manila once that had, “I THRUST IN JESUS” across the back in big letters…unfortunately, that was several email addresses ago and I have no copy anywhere online anymore.

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Mattand  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:26:48pm

Hey, Charles:

OT: How does that Amazon click thingy work for you? Do I just click on a Amazon ad on the page? I’ve already got some stuff in my basket.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:27:35pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

That 50 mile scale suggest that there are some serious fucking mountains on Pluto.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:28:08pm

re: #88 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I forgot about that.

I forgot how to spell his last name. ;-)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:28:11pm

re: #70 Kragar

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God already did. Gave a simple mind to a simple fellow.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:28:20pm

re: #95 darthstar

I took a picture of the back of a bus in Manila once that had, “I THRUST IN JESUS” across the back in big letters…unfortunately, that was several email addresses ago and I have no copy anywhere online anymore.

In Soviet Russia, Jesus Thrusts in You.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:28:51pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:28:59pm

My grandfather loved astronomy and passed that love on to me. I wish he were around to see this, he would have loved it. RIP Gramps. I miss you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:30:25pm

re: #57 BeachDem

Didn’t have far to go. And I didn’t see any kicking or hear any screaming.

There was a time when their politics consisted of more than knee-jerk opposition to anything a Democrat supports.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:31:37pm

I like how excited LGF is about Pluto pictures.

It’s cheering me up after reading political derp in one of my cross stitch forums. I should know better.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:31:43pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:32:03pm

What is going on around here?

I step away this morning to do some searching for work and I come back and I see a change in the comments section appearance in the thread I had open for lurking. Then I go to a new thread and it has changed to something closer to what it looked like previous.

Am I seeing things or is the mad coder Charles trying things out on the fly?

Now…back to try to catch up with the three threads that have popped up since…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:33:25pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

I’ve seen it happen too - the colored backgrounds on the comment boxes go missing. It fixes if you reload the page.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:33:44pm

Here’s what confuses me about purity movement. They agree on the following:

- God designed humans to be sexual beings and gave us sex drives
- As part of that, he also designed us to have a biological yearning for sex from adolescence on
- But He also forbids sex outside of marriage
- And He forbids masturbation*

* This last point is theologically debated. The Bible doesn’t say too much about masturbation and Jesus himself never addresses it. He does mention “sexual immorality” but there’s an ongoing and sure to be virtually endless debate about what that term actually means.

But I can’t for the life of me reconcile why God would design us as sexual beings but then apparently leave unmarried people with no avenue whatsoever for sexual release. My personal belief is that masturbation is NOT sexually amoral, provided it is NOT being used as a substitute for a normal sex like while married.

Also factor in that in Biblical times, people got married a lot younger. There is of course much less of an issue waiting until marriage for sex if you are getting married at 14/15/16.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:34:32pm

Just a few quickies about appeasement. To give some context to the decisions of those days, remember that France and Great Britain suffered a combined total of 9+ million casualties in WW1. If you were going to ask the flower of European youth to go back to war with weapons even more advanced than those that they had just used a generation before, it had to be for something more important than the Sudetenland. French labor unions threatened strikes in case of war, and there was genuine fear that they could have held a war and nobody showed up.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:34:35pm

re: #96 Mattand

Hey, Charles:

OT: How does that Amazon click thingy work for you? Do I just click on a Amazon ad on the page? I’ve already got some stuff in my basket.

Well, I think you need to click through from one of our links before adding things to your basket — there’s a button in the left column that says “Shop at Amazon as an LGF Associate”, that contains our code. It’s also on the front page in the right sidebar.

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Mattand  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:34:54pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I like how excited LGF is about Pluto pictures.

It’s cheering me up after reading political derp in one of my cross stitch forums. I should know better.

Just don’t ask them if Pluto is a planet or a dwarf planet.

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Mattand  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:36:00pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Well, I think you need to click through from one of our links before adding things to your basket — there’s a button in the left column that says “Shop at Amazon as an LGF Associate”, that contains our code. It’s also on the front page in the right sidebar.

Okay. Found the upper left button after I posted. I can clear the basket and put the stuff in Save for Later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:36:10pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

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- And He forbids masturbation*

* This last point is theologically debated. The Bible doesn’t say too much about masturbation and Jesus himself never addresses it. He does mention “sexual immorality” but there’s an ongoing and sure to be virtually endless debate about what that term actually means.

Seed spilling is clearly forbidden. And as Christine O’Donnel pointed out, it is driven by lust, which is sinful.

Although in my case, it is not so much driven by lust as by force of habit…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:37:21pm

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Seed spilling is clearly forbidden. And as Christine O’Donnel pointed out, it is driven by lust, which is sinful.

Although in my cse, it is not so much driven by lust as by force of habit…

They often point to story of Onan for that, but Onan was punished because his seed spilling was in defiance of God, not because the act itself was sinful…or so goes the general logic.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:38:26pm

re: #111 Mattand

Just don’t ask them if Pluto is a planet or a dwarf planet.

It’s a mutt.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:39:13pm

Yeah, that’s Charon. And Mordor has been identified. Now where’s Isengard. I see a massive canyon though.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:40:39pm

re: #111 Mattand

Just don’t ask them if Pluto is a planet or a dwarf planet.

Who, LGF or the cross stitch ladies?

I’m fairly certain some of these women wouldn’t know either term if it bit them on the ass.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:41:14pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s what confuses me about purity movement. They agree on the following:

- God designed humans to be sexual beings and gave us sex drives
- As part of that, he also designed us to have a biological yearning for sex from adolescence on
- But He also forbids sex outside of marriage
- And He forbids masturbation*

* This last point is theologically debated. The Bible doesn’t say too much about masturbation and Jesus himself never addresses it. He does mention “sexual immorality” but there’s an ongoing and sure to be virtually endless debate about what that term actually means.

But I can’t for the life of me reconcile why God would design us as sexual beings but then apparently leave unmarried people with no avenue whatsoever for sexual release. My personal belief is that masturbation is NOT sexually amoral, provided it is NOT being used as a substitute for a normal sex like while married.

Also factor in that in Biblical times, people got married a lot younger. There is of course much less of an issue waiting until marriage for sex if you are getting married at 14/15/16.

You’re always gonna have a problem picking up a body in one piece asking for logical consistency out of a faith-based, puritanical movement.

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Mattand  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:42:01pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Who, LGF or the cross stitch ladies?

I’m fairly certain some of these women wouldn’t know either term if it bit them on the ass.

I meant the cross-stitch ladies. I was surprised by the anger of people a few years ago when Pluto got demoted. Lots of “What do those trained astronomers know about planets anyway?” kind of stuff.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:42:37pm
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Lidane  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:42:57pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

They often point to story of Onan for that, but Onan was punished because his seed spilling was in defiance of God, not because the act itself was sinful…or so goes the general logic.

Wasn’t Onan’s sin that he pulled out rather than getting his sister-in-law pregnant after his brother had died? I seem to remember that.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:43:31pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s what confuses me about purity movement. They agree on the following:

If I ever become a spiritually-minded person, I’m going to join a religion that worships a god who is married, or at least goes out on dates.

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:45:00pm

re: #122 De Kolta Chair

If I ever become a spiritually-minded person, I’m going to join a religion that worships a god who is married, or at least goes out on dates.

Just start worshipping the Greek pantheon. They had enough sex, dysfunction, gluttony, and drama for everyone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:46:09pm

re: #121 Lidane

Wasn’t Onan’s sin that he pulled out rather than getting his sister-in-law pregnant after his brother had died? I seem to remember that.

That was my understanding.

But in a larger sense, how can one believe in a God that created the hand, and the genitalia, put them within easy reach of each other, made the interaction of one with the other very pleasurable, and then made it grounds for damnation?

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:47:33pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

That was my understanding.

But in a larger sense, how can one believe in a God that created the hand, and the genitalia, put them within easy reach of each other, made the interaction of one with the other very pleasurable, and then made it grounds for damnation?

It’s a tarp obviously!

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:47:42pm
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:48:41pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

They often point to story of Onan for that, but Onan was punished because his seed spilling was in defiance of God, not because the act itself was sinful…or so goes the general logic.

Oh, shit…seed spilling is illegal?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:48:45pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Are those pyramids?

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TedStriker  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:49:08pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Wingnuts now ranting at me that I “lied.” LOL.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 15, 2015

Wingnuts now ranting at me that I’m “un-American.” LOL.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 15, 2015

In which today’s RWNJs show themselves to be true heirs of “Tailgunner Joe” McCarthy.

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:51:43pm
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darthstar  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:51:59pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:52:36pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

But I can’t for the life of me reconcile why God would design us as sexual beings but then apparently leave unmarried people with no avenue whatsoever for sexual release.

Omar Khayyam had a period where he wrestled with that conundrum (paradox?). He seemed to finally resolve it, but he never said how exactly.

When, bending low, God moulded me from clay,
Incontrovertibly my life was ordered:
Without His order I abstain from crime.
Why should I burn, then, on His Judgement Day?
Rubaiyat, Quatrain LXXXII

That sin is irresistible, He knows;
Yet He commands us to abstain from sin.
Thus irresistibility confounds us
With prohibition:—‘Lean, but never fall!’
Rubaiyat, Quatrain LXXXIII

Ordaining every cause for life or death,
Guarding this tattered robe we call the Sky,
Say, am I sinful? Are you not my Master?
Who sins when You alone created me?
Rubaiyat, Quatrain LXXXVIII

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:53:53pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

They often point to story of Onan for that, but Onan was punished because his seed spilling was in defiance of God, not because the act itself was sinful…or so goes the general logic.

The point is that Christianity and early Christian doctrine was shaped by a bunch of people who were wracked by self-loathing and sexual insecurities. That tradition continues in Biblical exegesis to this day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:55:16pm

re: #130 Lidane

Trump says he’s filed w/ the FEX, says the report “was not designed for a man of Mr. Trump’s massive wealth”

He is too big for man’s law, only God’s Law can govern over him.

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TedStriker  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:56:02pm

re: #87 De Kolta Chair

Note to Appeasement! screamers:

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“Chamberlain” is mispelled…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:56:49pm

re: #127 darthstar

Oh, shit…seed spilling is illegal?

Only if done on main street downtown, at least that is what the judge told me.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 15, 2015 • 12:58:03pm

re: #135 TedStriker

“Chamberlain” is mispelled…

In my defense, I was using Nostradamus’ spelling. ;-P

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:06:34pm

re: #130 Lidane

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It’s YOOOOGE!!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:17:55pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

That was my understanding.

But in a larger sense, how can one believe in a God that created the hand, and the genitalia, put them within easy reach of each other, made the interaction of one with the other very pleasurable, and then made it grounds for damnation?

Well, he did put a snake con artist in a tree and tempted Eve with an apple from that tree and we are all paying the price for that…so, he can be a tricky God!

///

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:28:07pm

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:40:18pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

That was my understanding.

But in a larger sense, how can one believe in a God that created the hand, and the genitalia, put them within easy reach of each other, made the interaction of one with the other very pleasurable, and then made it grounds for damnation?

Sort of like a banana.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:50:14pm

re: #121 Lidane

Wasn’t Onan’s sin that he pulled out rather than getting his sister-in-law pregnant after his brother had died? I seem to remember that.

Yeah—he didn’t stand up for biblical marriage.

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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2015 • 1:52:57pm

re: #130 Lidane

Seen elsewhere on the internet:

The second sentence of the Trump financial disclosure press release “reads like a kid complaining that XXL condoms are too tight.”


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