RH Reality Check Finds Possible Criminal Behavior by the Anti-Choice Fanatics Behind the Planned Parenthood Videos

Possible forgery, credit card fraud and identity theft
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Sharona Coutts and Sofia Resnick of RH Reality Check have been investigating the far right fanatics behind the deceptive Planned Parenthood “sting” videos, and they’ve discovered some very interesting information. The operatives at the Orwellian “Center for Medical Progress” and their fake company “Biomax” may have violated a whole bunch of laws in the course of making these videos; specifically, David Daleiden and his cronies may have violated California and federal law on forgery, credit card fraud and identity theft: Exclusive: The Faces and Fake Names of People Behind Planned Parenthood Attack Videos.

News reports that BioMax operatives presented what appeared to be California driver’s licenses when they visited a Texas Planned Parenthood affiliate lend further weight to the claims of event organizers that Daleiden and his group did indeed present forged ID cards.

To be sure, it’s possible that Robert Daoud Sarkis, Brianna Allen, and Susan Tennenbaum are real people who are in fact associated with BioMax, despite BioMax now being known to have been a front company.

However, RH Reality Check has been unable to locate any such individuals, and neither the Center for Medical Progress nor BioMax itself produced any individuals by those names with ties to BioMax.

RH Reality Check called all phone numbers listed on the business cards. The office number for BioMax goes directly to voicemail. The cell number listed for Susan Tennenbaum is disconnected. A voicemail left on Sarkis’ cell phone was not returned by deadline. We also left messages for other people named Susan Tennenbaum throughout the United States, and all Brianna Allens in California, listed in databases of public records. Emails to the addresses provided on the business cards did not receive a reply. We were unable to locate a single listing for “Robert Daoud Sarkis” in databases of public records.

This new evidence obviously raises the question of whether any of this conduct is illegal.

There’s a real stench of criminality behind this gang, and I hope the Justice Department and other law enforcement agencies will investigate them to the hilt. Their connections with Operation Rescue, a terrorist group tied to numerous violent acts against doctors and women’s health clinics, are bad enough in themselves to warrant it in my humble opinion.

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206 comments
1
Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:55:36pm

Whats frustrating is how easily these guys find supporters. You know how hard it is to raise funds for an honest look at a topic?

2
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:58:14pm

Texas Tea Party Leader JoAnn Fleming Endorses Cruz for President

Oil that is. black gold.

3
Kid A  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:58:25pm

Another fifty bucks donated to Planned Parenthood.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:58:37pm

I agree with illegal acts needing to be investigated and, if necessary, prosecuted.

What I hate is that this kind of crap gives more ammo to the

PERSEKEWTION!!

types.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:59:37pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

Whats frustrating is how easily these guys find supporters. You know how hard it is to raise funds for an honest look at a topic?

Two words: Super PAC.

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allegro  Jul 28, 2015 • 5:59:44pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree with illegal acts needing to be investigated and, if necessary, prosecuted.

What I hate is that this kind of crap gives more ammo to the

PERSECUTION!!

types.

They don’t need ammo. They got delusions.

7
Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:00:25pm

Look at who favorited my tweet:

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:01:33pm

Biomax: Beyond Thunderdumb

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:01:42pm

“they shouldn’t be prosecuted for breaking the law when they are faking things that should be true”

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EPR-radar  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:01:55pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree with illegal acts needing to be investigated and, if necessary, prosecuted.

What I hate is that this kind of crap gives more ammo to the

PERSECUTION!!

types.

The persecution types can just FOAD. They will piss and moan about any progress, no matter how trivial or important, so their contribution to public policy debate is merely mindless obstruction for its own sake.

Perhaps Trump as GOP candidate will be enough to get the GOP moderates and the media both-siderists to finally stop their enablement of the lunatic fringe of the US right.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:04:31pm

Is the Rand Paul vote to defund going on yet?

He’s setting up another grandstand.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:04:58pm

Oh & I’m dizzy from the blank space.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:05:32pm

Fox News’ Shannon Bream falsely suggested that Planned Parenthood profits from the sale of fetal tissue, based on a misrepresented figure sourced from the website of a separate, for-profit middleman that occasionally interacts with some Planned Parenthood affiliates.

Following the release of the latest undercover video by the anti-abortion Center for Medical Process — which again falsely accuses Planned Parenthood of illegally profiting from the sale of fetal tissue for medical research — Bream reported on the July 28 edition of America’s Newsroom that while Planned Parenthood “says it has never made a profit” on the legal tissue donations, “there are things that raise questions.”

As evidence, she pointed to the website of a company called StemExpress, which “does business with Planned Parenthood affiliates,” where “you will see pricing for a fetal liver, in some cases, at over $24,000 for a single item”:

snip

But The New York Times explained that while for-profit companies like StemExpress often act as middlemen between the non-profit Planned Parenthood and medical researchers, Planned Parenthood itself only receives “small fees” to cover expenses:

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:05:37pm

When your argument which you believe with every inch of your being doesn’t stand up to scrutiny - in fact is discredited - you eventually behave like a scoundrel. “Pro-life anti-abortion” activists are criminals and scoundrels.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:08:02pm

Not surprising - while they claim to be Christians they reveal themselves to be nothing more than slaves of the Prince of Lies by using the same tactics.

So when Judgement Day arrives, Christ will judge them and say: “I do not know Thee”.

Separation from everything they knew from the temporal world will be Hell indeed. No light. No warmth. An infinite void.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:10:22pm

re: #7 Belafon

I love the fact that he didn’t look at either link before clicking favorite.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:12:23pm

I just logged out to look at the old individual article layout (it’s only visible right now to registered users), and wow, do those sidebars ever look skinny after using the new layout for a while. And I mean “skinny” in a bad way, as in “emaciated.”

After I finish tweaking things, this is definitely going to be the new layout for front page articles and LGF Pages.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:13:09pm

Down with skinny sidebars.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:13:52pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Down with skinny sidebars.

That’s what I say…oh, wait, we’re talking about the website.

20
De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:13:56pm

As a good liberal, I communicate with Uncle Joe Stalin on a daily basis via ouija board, and I haven’t received my marching orders about selling fetal tissue yet.

Should I upgrade?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:14:16pm

I like sidebars with some meat on their bones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:14:27pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

As evidence, she pointed to the website of a company called StemExpress, which “does business with Planned Parenthood affiliates,” where “you will see pricing for a fetal liver, in some cases, at over $24,000 for a single item”:

Liar. First, the price is $2400, not $24,000, but more importantly, as I posted previously, that is for isolated cells with a particular set of markers. Isolating those cells involves instruments that cost upwards of $250,000, run by highly trained experts whose expertise routinely brings >$150,000 annual salary. Dispersing solid tissue, FACS sorting, culturing of sorted cells, cryopreservation - these are highly specialized tasks that take expensive instrumentation and highly skilled staff.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:16:46pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

Liar. First, the price is $2400, not $24,000, but more importantly, as I posted previously, that is for isolated cells with a particular set of markers. Isolating those cells involves instruments that cost upwards of $250,000, run by highly trained experts whose expertise routinely brings >$150,000 annual salary. Dispersing solid tissue, FACS sorting, culturing of sorted cells, cryopreservation - these are highly specialized tasks that take expensive instrumentation and highly skilled staff.

Too much science. These people hate science.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:17:30pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:18:14pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Let me have men sidebars about me that are fat;
Sleek-headed men sidebars and such as sleep o’ nights;
Yond’ Cassius sidebar has a lean and hungry look;
He It thinks too much: such men sidebars are dangerous.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:18:45pm

re: #23 #FergusonFireside

Too much science. These people hate science.

Well, you know, Science doesn’t provide The Answer. It doesn’t really tell you for absolute certain what is true.

It just tells you what isn’t true, and how to determine that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:19:57pm

I wonder if many of the anti-PP types understand how complex genetics really is.

I’m guessing…no.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:19:59pm

Over the dinner table tonight, my nephew and his dad went off on a lengthy impromptu comedic riff about the Illuminati, Jay Z, Iggy Azalea, lizard alien overlords, et alia. A half hour late, my sides are still aching from laughing. You had to be there.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:21:58pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I like sidebars with some meat on their bones.

Just the way I used to like the trolls. Gamy and marbled. Served with a nice pinot.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:22:48pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

shark = white guy
lion = black guy

It’s all code.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:23:03pm
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Chan Kobun  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:23:49pm

re: #30 Belafon

shark = white guy
lion = black guy

It’s all code.

OMG HOW DAER U PLAY THE RACE CARD?!!

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b.d.  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:24:07pm

I keep scooting my laptop over to the left.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:25:01pm

Just for grins I chummed the murky sewage at #tcot with the magical question

Here is a collection of all the answers.
The most popular answer?
HURR HURR STOP HAVIN TEH SEXYTIMES U SLUTTY SLUTZ!!!1!!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:25:07pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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The dentist only regrets that he got caught, named and shamed.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:27:08pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Down with skinny sidebars.

Could you fill it with hypnotic gif animations?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:27:51pm

re: #33 b.d.

I keep scooting my laptop over to the left.

My chair has wheels for just that eventuality.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:28:42pm

re: #33 b.d.

I keep scooting my laptop over to the left.

i have a krick in my neck now

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:29:29pm

I know the comments have been centered for a lotta years, folks. It’ll take some getting used to. But the new layout has some real benefits; pretty soon you won’t even notice the comments aren’t centered because you enjoy having more room too much.

(Seriously - readability is vastly improved with a wider comment area.)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:32:13pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I know the comments have been centered for a lotta years, folks. It’ll take some getting used to. But the new layout has some real benefits; pretty soon you won’t even notice the comments aren’t centered because you enjoy having more room too much.

(Seriously - readability is vastly improved with a wider comment area.)

waal shucks boss we’re just a-funning you naow

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:32:42pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I know the comments have been centered for a lotta years, folks. It’ll take some getting used to. But the new layout has some real benefits; pretty soon you won’t even notice the comments aren’t centered because you enjoy having more room too much.

(Seriously - readability is vastly improved with a wider comment area.)

It would be nice if we had a blank space like the margins of medieval manuscripts. We could illuminate it with little squirrel doodles and fabulous animals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:34:05pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:35:36pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

It would be nice if we had a blank space like the margins of medieval manuscripts. We could illuminate it with little squirrel doodles and fabulous animals.

comments page, 14th century

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CleverToad  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:35:52pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Fabulous animals, certainly, but ‘squirrel doodles’ doesn’t sound like something I really want to find in my margins (or on my back deck)

Like the new layout, though

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:36:48pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I know the comments have been centered for a lotta years, folks. It’ll take some getting used to. But the new layout has some real benefits; pretty soon you won’t even notice the comments aren’t centered because you enjoy having more room too much.

(Seriously - readability is vastly improved with a wider comment area.)

Will this new comment section feature nesting or will we continue to use the standard system for replies?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:36:54pm

re: #43 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

comments page, 14th century

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Exactly. I’d like to sketch a winged lion eating a dentist dick-first.

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allegro  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:37:17pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

The dentist only regrets that he got caught, named and shamed.

This. It wasn’t an accident or mistake or even the first time the asshole has used the same illegal trick. He’s been caught twice now and I would place a substantial bet that he’s gotten away with it multiple times.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:37:34pm

Apparently the New York Times has not heard of this gentleman Donald Trump until very recently

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Bear  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:05pm

I really do not care for all the blank space. I feel as if something is missing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:09pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Uncommonly tough bunnies.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:32pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I know the comments have been centered for a lotta years, folks. It’ll take some getting used to. But the new layout has some real benefits; pretty soon you won’t even notice the comments aren’t centered because you enjoy having more room too much.

(Seriously - readability is vastly improved with a wider comment area.)

yeah yeah yeah

/olddog

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:38:38pm

re: #44 CleverToad

Fabulous animals, certainly, but ‘squirrel doodles’ doesn’t sound like something I really want to find in my margins (or on my back deck)

How about Cheese Doodles instead?

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:39:28pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

It would be nice if we had a blank space like the margins of medieval manuscripts. We could illuminate it with little squirrel doodles and fabulous animals.

That’s what the blank space on the right is for.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:40:21pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

It would be nice if we had a blank space like the margins of medieval manuscripts. We could illuminate it with little squirrel doodles and fabulous animals.

That’s too much like work.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:09pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

If you want to know why I renounced the right, it’s because they reflexively defend evil shit like this. @benshapiro

9:16 PM - 28 Jul 2015

That’s not a defense. What it is though…breathtaking stupidity.

Get help Ben. Your brain is turning to mush from all the hate and you aren’t even making typically stupid RWNJ sense.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:12pm

re: #53 calochortus

That’s what the blank space on the right is for.

Yes, but I want it active to accept Turtle Logo.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:14pm

re: #50 The Ghost of the Abomination Colors

Seriously. He’s, like killing a monkey-headed snake with chicken legs, using an asparagus stalk.

…or maybe rock samphire?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:56pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s too much like work.

You work in a scriptorium?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:41:57pm

re: #49 Bear

I really do not care for all the blank space. I feel as if something is missing.

There’s actually a lot less blank space now. You just think there’s more blank space because the comment area isn’t centered. It’s actually about 20% wider now.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:42:46pm

Just curious, what’s the newest on the floor pooper?

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:42:47pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Yes, but I want it active to accept Turtle Logo.

Picky, picky, picky.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:42:52pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Yes, but I want it active to accept Turtle Logo.

There’s a turtle module in Python. I used it to generate fractals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:43:18pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Exactly. I’d like to sketch a winged lion eating a dentist dick-first.

best I can find:

Private Comment

PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iaW1nZGl2IGFjZW50ZXIiPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly9saXR0bGVncmVlbmZvb3RiYWxscy5jb20vd2VibG9nL2ltZy9iYWNrd29vZHNfc2xldXRoLzIwMTUvMDcvMjgvZmlzaF9kaWNrcy5qcGciIGRhdGEtZmFuY3lib3gtZ3JvdXA9IjEwODQ2ODY4IiBjbGFzcz0iaW1hZ2UiPjxpbWcgc3JjPSJodHRwOi8vbGl0dGxlZ3JlZW5mb290YmFsbHMuY29tL3dlYmxvZy9pbWcvYmFja3dvb2RzX3NsZXV0aC8yMDE1LzA3LzI4L2Zpc2hfZGlja3MuanBnIiB3aWR0aD0iNTYwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjM5NiI+PC9hPjwvZGl2Pg==

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:43:21pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

You work in a scriptorium?

Nah. Lab notebooks. All that trouble writing them backwards in Latin, ever since that bastard Leonardo….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:45:29pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

There’s actually a lot less blank space now. You just think there’s more blank space because the comment area isn’t centered. It’s actually about 20% wider now.

That’s really true for me on a widescreen monitor. Once you get past a dozen comments, it’s all blank space on both sides anyway. Now I won’t have to scroll down so much since there will be more than three words on a line!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:45:31pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

best I can find:

[Embedded content]

wtf?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:45:40pm

re: #60 #FergusonFireside

Just curious, what’s the newest on the floor pooper?

The poop-meister has gone silent again after losing his latest Twitter sock puppet, which means he’s probably concocting some evil shit. But nobody’s going to pay attention to it, because his name is now a synonym for “egomaniacal loser.”

Maybe he’s trying to get hired by the Donald Trump campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:47:38pm

re: #66 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

wtf?

A monk offering to trade a fish for a dick.
There’s another dick in that illustration if you look.

I have no idea why.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:47:49pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

The poop-meister has gone silent again after losing his latest Twitter sock puppet, which means he’s probably concocting some evil shit. But nobody’s going to pay attention to it, because his name is now a synonym for “egomaniacal loser.”

Maybe he’s trying to get hired by the Donald Trump campaign.

Too many egos in one small space.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:49:18pm

re: #66 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

wtf?

Yeah. The six-seven vanishing points had me confused too.

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Bear  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:49:42pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Wider comment area does help making reading much better for my old eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:50:07pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Yeah. The six-seven vanishing points had me confused too.

Apparently there were some monks in the scriptorium who had too much extra imagination.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:50:41pm

re: #49 Bear

I really do not care for all the blank space. I feel as if something is missing.

re: #71 Bear

Wider comment area does help making reading much better for my old eyes.

Quite the turnaround there! See? After a day or two we won’t even notice.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:22pm

re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White

Too many egos in one small space.

And twice as many ids, and one, sad anemic superego kept in lead-lined box.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:36pm

re: #53 calochortus

That’s what the blank space on the right is for.

What am I missing? I doodled some rocket ships and curly doodley things in the left margin, and they don’t scroll when I move on the page. In face, they stay in the same place even when I move the browser window to the other monitor.

Should I have used something other than Sharpies?

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:38pm
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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:51:49pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

best I can find:

[Embedded content]

Kitty! Come back with that!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:52:31pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

It would be nice if we had a blank space like the margins of medieval manuscripts. We could illuminate it with little squirrel doodles and fabulous animals.

Or even a booby hatch!
We saw what you did there
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:52:38pm

re: #74 The Ghost of the Abomination Colors

And twice as many ids, and one, sad anemic superego kept in lead-lined box.

And apparently a Word Salad Shooter in the Cabinet….

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:53:11pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

A monk offering to trade a fish for a dick.
There’s another dick in that illustration if you look.

I have no idea why.

Oh LOL

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:53:14pm

Where do wingnuts think these “free clinics” are? Oh right..Planned Parenthood.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:53:29pm

re: #75 RealityBasedSteve

What am I missing? I doodled some rocket ships and curly doodley things in the left margin, and they don’t scroll when I move on the page. In face, they stay in the same place even when I move the browser window to the other monitor.

Should I have used something other than Sharpies?

RBS

Yes. Experts recommend dry-erase markers for this application.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:53:39pm

re: #48 FormerDirtDart

Apparently the New York Times has not heard of this gentleman Donald Trump until very recently

From what I’ve read, Trump is at or is about to go to a major LPGA tourney at his notorious golf course in Scotland for a few days. I look forward to the protests, and nobody protests quite like the Celts.

As for the Times, they’ve been doing some good statewide reporting lately, but on the national front they should either give up or hire back some of the thousands of reporters and staffers they’ve fired in the past few years.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:54:00pm

re: #75 RealityBasedSteve

What am I missing? I doodled some rocket ships and curly doodley things in the left margin, and they don’t scroll when I move on the page. In face, they stay in the same place even when I move the browser window to the other monitor.

Should I have used something other than Sharpies?

RBS

Got a diamond ring? I saw a window on the Transcendentalist Trail where some poetess had scribbled a sonnet with hers.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:54:02pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

A monk offering to trade a fish for a dick.
There’s another dick in that illustration if you look.

I have no idea why.

I love it. This is when I love the human race.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:55:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:56:16pm

Well, enough dicks for tonight (but y’all can google “medieval dicks” for more images…those monks were too funny!)

niterz, lizardz!

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:57:07pm

I’m liking this layout.

And now that I’ve gotten to the comment window, I’m liking the absence of color as well.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:58:14pm

re: #78 Feline Fearless Leader

[Embedded content]

;-[)

Comic Sans, ladies and gentleman!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 6:58:46pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Where do wingnuts think these “free clinics” are? Oh right..Planned Parenthood.

[Embedded content]

Fuck him. Fuck him very much.

When Mrs. FBW and I were in college, she got her contraceptives from PP. Same for the Older Boy’s GF now. In both cases, women who had reached majority and had good reason not to involve their parents.

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:01:46pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, enough dicks for tonight (but y’all can google “medieval dicks” for more images…those monks were too funny!)

[Embedded content]

niterz, lizardz!

Which I progress to do.

First thing I find

In Cologne, Germany, on the Cologne City Hall is a statue of Konrad von Hochstaden.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:02:48pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuck him. Fuck him very much.

When Mrs. FBW and I were in college, she got her contraceptives from PP. Same for the Older Boy’s GF now. In both cases, women who had reached majority and had good reason not to involve their parents.

And then there are OBAMA CARE!!!! TEH OBAMACARE COVERS ALL TEH THINGS!!!!!11!!

Well who do they think are the PROVIDERS of Obamacare? Also too: The GOP wants to repeal Obamacare.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:02:48pm

Kevin “Hang Women Who Have Abortions, And Their Doctors Too” Williamson just dropped this odorous floater at National Review.

Hey fuckers, you built that!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:03:54pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

It’s more like “Sixteen clowns in an elephant suit”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:04:10pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

And then there are OBAMA CARE!!!! TEH OBAMACARE COVERS ALL TEH THINGS!!!!!11!!

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Well who do they think are the PROVIDERS of Obamacare? Also too: The GOP wants to repeal Obamacare.

Apparently they think Obamacare is a place you can go.

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Bear  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:05:26pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

Not really. I have been books far to long and guess I think the lines should fill most of the paper. Perhaps moving the “blank” space to the left would make it work better for me. However I would not want anything special for me. I am only one person of many. Don’t like change now I guess.

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Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:05:30pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Simply could not resist the opening.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:06:18pm

weirdness of chrome rendering:

click your mouse down just under the ‘Search LGF’ box

now without unclicking pull it down into the main section

welcome to the html twilight zone

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:06:21pm
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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:09:06pm

Back in a bit. Mr. C needs to borrow my computer.

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Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:09:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:10:32pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

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Not a bow, a CROSSbow. He should be excommunicated for that by itself, if only the medieval church hadn’t gone all soft on those abominations!

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:14:01pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:14:16pm

re: #99 #FergusonFireside

Bariatric surgery isn’t risk free-what isn’t stated is when the surgery was performed and what co-morbidities were involved when she had the surgery.

And I am stating this as someone who has had bariatric surgery.

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Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:15:03pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t hunt. Call me a hypocrite I get my meat at the store. But a hunter needs to bring a weapon that will dispatch the animal immediately. 40 hour wounded chase? They made that bag cats end a living hell and frankly I’d shame that guy to no end were he in earshot.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:15:38pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

Not a bow, a CROSSbow. He should be excommunicated for that by itself, if only the medieval church hadn’t gone all soft on those abominations!

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The reports said ‘crossbow’, but the trophy photo showed what looks much like a compound bow. He also boasted of skill with that in some background dig. As if the lion cares.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:18:40pm

re: #96 Bear

Not really. I have been books far to long and guess I think the lines should fill most of the paper. Perhaps moving the “blank” space to the left would make it work better for me. However I would not want anything special for me. I am only one person of many. Don’t like change now I guess.

My monitor gives me only about 1.5 inches to the left margin where I keep desktop icons. Can you work something better with your settings?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:19:25pm

re: #105 Great White Snark

The fact that the lion was radio collared should have been a no-go from the get-go. Now that his name has been plastered in the Twin Cities for killing an endangered species I hope that his practice dwindles to nothing and he is forced to move out of state.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:20:17pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

welcome to the html twilight zone

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:21:03pm

re: #108 Eric The Fruit Bat

The fact that the lion was radio collared should have been a no-go from the get-go. Now that his name has been plastered in the Twin Cities for killing an endangered species I hope that his practice dwindles to nothing and he is forced to move out of state.

He’s toast.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:21:26pm

Anyone remember the old short story many read in literature class…The Most Deadly Game?

This lion story keeps reminding of the plot in that story.

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Bear  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:24:00pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Have 14 inch wide screen. Width of right “blank” area 5 inches.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:25:21pm

re: #48 FormerDirtDart

Apparently the New York Times has not heard of this gentleman Donald Trump until very recently

Of course, the money that Trump and the developers he fronts for have poured into the Times’ real estate section is another story. They know him quite well over there.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:25:32pm

re: #112 Bear

Have 14 inch wide screen. Width of right “blank” area 5 inches.

Like I tell my web clients, there’s no such thing as inches on the internets. :)

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:25:48pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

I googled because I didn’t know. It looks like it’s called The Most Dangerous Game: en.wikipedia.org.

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Chan Kobun  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:26:31pm

Wow, apparently my browser is shit-flinging crazy and thinks I need to repost the same comment I just made.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:26:59pm

re: #115 Belafon

I googled because I didn’t know. It looks like it’s called The Most Dangerous Game: en.wikipedia.org.

Oh yeah…that is the title. I was going on my memory of my old school days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:29:49pm

re: #105 Great White Snark

I don’t hunt. Call me a hypocrite I get my meat at the store. But a hunter needs to bring a weapon that will dispatch the animal immediately. 40 hour wounded chase? They made that bag cats end a living hell and frankly I’d shame that guy to no end were he in earshot.

Frank description:

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:30:25pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

There was a TV series called The Most Deadly Game. I know this only because it popped up when I was googling.

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Bear  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:31:02pm

re: #114 makeitstop

Do you use chains and links ? Or poles, perches or smokes?

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JadeHelmCurious  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:33:03pm

The comment box is almost 16x9. Now if we could make it 3D 4K Curved with !!TY processing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:33:41pm

re: #112 Bear

Have 14 inch wide screen. Width of right “blank” area 5 inches.

If you sign out and measure the blank space in the old layout, you’ll discover you actually have more room for your comments in the new layout.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:33:48pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:35:00pm

re: #115 Belafon

I googled because I didn’t know. It looks like it’s called The Most Dangerous Game: en.wikipedia.org.

The 1932 movie with Faye Wray and Joel McCrae is awesomely bizarre. TCM shows it every once in a while.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:35:03pm

I just did one of those stupid FaceBook “What XXXX do you YYYY” things. I swear to dog that they are just randomly creating the results….

Be advised that my FB profile pic is actually a pretty damn accurate representation of me.

Yea…. I think you may want to reconsider
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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:36:12pm

Going to catch up on Rectify (on Sundance) It’s really good.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:36:43pm

re: #125 RealityBasedSteve

I just did one of those stupid FaceBook “What XXXX do you YYYY” things. I swear to dog that they are just randomly creating the results….

Be advised that my FB profile pic is actually a pretty damn accurate representation of me.

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My middle son does a lot of those. He takes them twice with the same answers to see if it is even consistent.

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Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:38:28pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

Fair points all.

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psddluva4evah  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:39:23pm

SH-EE-TTT! this sounds really bad! WTF!

For authorities to go on record saying this is bad
..wow!

Officials Are Freaking out About a Soon-To-Be Released Video of a Cop Shooting #SamDubose t.co t.co

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:39:45pm

re: #120 Bear

Do you use chains and links ? Or poles, perches or smokes?

Pixels!

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JadeHelmCurious  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:39:46pm

If you’re greedy and want to make a lot of dough, Planned Parenthood is probably one of the last places you want to work.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:39:58pm

@mtaibbi crowd-sourced 25 Drinking Game Rules for the Republican Presidential Debate next week.

Drink whenever any of the following happens:

Rule #1 - Anytime Trump mentions his wealth or how smart he is
Rule #2 - Anytime the phrase “The President” is uttered
Rule #3 - The first mention of Benghazi
Rule #4 - Whining about not being called on to speak enough
Rule #5 - Anytime someone uses the moderator’s first name
Rule #6 - Anytime Trump interrupts with “excuse me, but I’d like to answer that question”
Rule #7 - Any mention of Kenya
Rule #8 - Any mention of Neville Chamberlain, “Hitler” or “Nazi”
Rule #9 - Any “All Lives Matter” reference
Rule #10 - Anytime the crowd cheers a racist/bigoted statement
Rule #11 - Any mention of poor upbringing, a parent that “worked everyday of his/her life.” If it comes from Bush, finish your drink
Rule #12 - Any mention of “stopping Hillary Clinton”
Rule #13 - Any mention of the U.S. becoming Greece
Rule #14 - Finish drink if candidate proposes a tax cut that would disproportionately personally benefit them
Rule #15 - If Trump refers to himself in the third person, finish your drink
Rule #16 - Any mention of a “culture of dependency”
Rule #17 - Anytime a candidate proclaims a positive relationship with a racial minority
Rule #18 - Any mention of Reagan or “I’m the most like Reagan because…”
Rule #19 - Any “right here in Ohio” references
Rule #20 - Any “you can keep your doctor” references
Rule #21 - Anytime someone utters the word “thug”
Rule #22 - Any “war on Christians” reference
Rule #23 - Any awkward LeBron James shout-outs
Rule #24 - Any mention of ACORN
Rule #25 - If a candidate tries to speak Spanish

Please drink responsibly.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:40:59pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Pixels!

US pixels or Imperial pixels?

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:41:12pm

re: #124 De Kolta Chair

The 1932 movie with Faye Wray and Joel McCrae is awesomely bizarre.

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I did not know there was a movie with that title. I’ll have to check that out. IMDb makes it sound like there was a little twist in the movie plot differing from the original story. Overall though, the same theme as the short story.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:41:47pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

There isn’t enough naltrexone to deal with this.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:42:14pm

re: #105 Great White Snark

I don’t hunt. Call me a hypocrite I get my meat at the store. But a hunter needs to bring a weapon that will dispatch the animal immediately. 40 hour wounded chase? They made that bag cats end a living hell and frankly I’d shame that guy to no end were he in earshot.

I don’t hunt either. I eat meat, but I prefer not to kill it myself-in part because I would be afraid to screw it up and cause pain. (Yes, I realize that not all the meat I eat is likely to be killed humanely, but I do try to be responsible about buying ethically raised and slaughtered animals.)
Shooting an animal and having it survive for 2 more days? No. Just no.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:42:27pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Voxels!

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:43:59pm

re: #135 Eric The Fruit Bat

There isn’t enough naltrexone to deal with this.

Taibbi’s leaning towards just a drink when you hear any of these and no repeats. Alcohol poisoning is a very real threat if you drink every time one of the rules comes up in the debate.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:45:21pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

Death.

Playing that game will result in…death.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:47:44pm

re: #135 Eric The Fruit Bat

There isn’t enough naltrexone to deal with this.

David Sipress
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:49:27pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

The reports said ‘crossbow’, but the trophy photo showed what looks much like a compound bow. He also boasted of skill with that in some background dig. As if the lion cares.

I checked the trophy photos, and you’re right. Not a crossbow. A compound.

Mind you, as a Stickbow shooter, they’re only marginally more acceptable.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:53:25pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

Those fish were stupid to pretend to be wild turkeys.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:54:09pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

I checked the trophy photos, and you’re right. Not a crossbow. A compound.

Mind you, as a Stickbow shooter, they’re only marginally more acceptable.

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He’s a fish-hunter?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 7:59:31pm

re: #143 calochortus

He’s defending the countryside from being ravaged by The Salmon That Walk As Wolves.

(As the prophecy foretold.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:00:18pm

re: #128 Great White Snark

Fair points all.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:00:22pm

re: #143 calochortus

He’s a fish-hunter?

A real hunter would use an atl-atl.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:01:18pm

re: #144 The Ghost of a Flea

He’s defending the countryside from being ravaged by The Salmon That Walk As Wolves.

(As the prophecy foretold.)

I’m scared…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:02:10pm

re: #146 BlueSpotinAL

A real hunter would use an atl-atl.

We traditionalist real hunters use a woomera.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:02:37pm

re: #146 BlueSpotinAL

A real hunter would use an atl-atl.

I think we have established that he isn’t a real hunter.
I also wonder how long it takes to learn to be accurate throwing a spear with an atl-atl?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:02:58pm

re: #147 calochortus

I’m scared…

Wait until I sell SciFi the screenplay treatment.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:03:57pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

I did not know there was a movie with that title. I’ll have to check that out. IMDb makes it sound like there was a little twist in the movie plot differing from the original story. Overall though, the same theme as the short story.

I haven’t read Richard Connell’s story in ages, but I’ve seen the 1932 movie many times. I’m a big fan of Joel McCrea, a very underrated actor.

I just finished reading Tom Hiney’s excellent 1997 biography of Raymond Chandler. I didn’t know Chandler was such a big shot pulp writer, though he only started making the real do-re-mi when he started writing screenplays.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:04:08pm

And here I thought that the USN was just pulling our lanyards with all those walking fish attack drills.

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RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:04:49pm

re: #150 The Ghost of a Flea

Wait until I sell SciFi the screenplay treatment.

I Was a Teenage Were-Salmon

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:04:55pm

re: #149 calochortus

I think we have established that he isn’t a real hunter.
I also wonder how long it takes to learn to be accurate throwing a spear with an atl-atl?

Extrapolating from my experience about 500 years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:05:41pm

re: #142 Higgs Boson’s Mate

re: #143 calochortus

re: #144 The Ghost of a Flea

That was at a 3D shoot. That particular target was a timed shoot - you had 30 seconds to shoot as many arrows as you could at the targets, but only the hits score. Rush, and you score low. Take too much time on each, and you score low. Get in a rhythm, and you do well.

BTW, related to my discussion of hunting with arrows, a good 3D shoot will teach you what you can and can’t do with a bow. A lot of the guys who set them up are sneaky bastards and put the stake - which you must be touching - in a place that requires you to bend, stoop, twist, etc just to shoot. And the target distances are NOT marked. It’s all hand/eye and experience. Tons of fun!

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:06:02pm

re: #154 BlueSpotinAL

Extrapolating from my experience about 500 years.

So people lived a lot longer back in the day?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:07:49pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

Thank you for enlightening me on that. I practiced metallic silhouette shooting with a large bore revolver and that 3D shoot looks to be more challenging.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:05pm

Just checked, the minimum legal draw weight to hunt lion with a bow in South Africa is 95 pounds. Most hunting bow makers do not produce anything with a draw weight over 70 pounds. 95 pounds is an insanely difficult draw for most people. There’s a reason that professional hunters in Africa use rifles exclusively, you simply can’t duplicate the accuracy, power, bone crushing and disabling ability in any kind of bow, even a crossbow.

What that asshole did was amazingly unethical. Most African countries won’t let you hunt Big 5 game with anything less than .375 caliber. Here’s a list of the minimum caliber requirements for game in various African countries.

You can talk about the cutting power of modern broadheads all you want, but at the end of the day you’re dumping around two orders of magnitude less energy into the target from a much less accurate platform that has drastically reduced range and takes much more skill to even contemplate using.

I have family that can hunt North American game ethically with a bow. I still think it’s an absolutely insane thing to attempt in Africa against the Big 5.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:11pm

re: #149 calochortus

I think we have established that he isn’t a real hunter.
I also wonder how long it takes to learn to be accurate throwing a spear with an atl-atl?

It’s fairly natural. Our Anthro department held competitions.

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fern01  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:25pm

re: #129 psddluva4evah

SH-EE-TTT! this sounds really bad! WTF!

For authorities to go on record saying this is bad
..wow!

Officials Are Freaking out About a Soon-To-Be Released Video of a Cop Shooting #SamDubose t.co t.co

From the City manager
“It’s a tragic situation, someone has died that did not necessarily need to die.”

How does one EVER “necessarily need to die”

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#FergusonFireside  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:34pm

re: #129 psddluva4evah

SH-EE-TTT! this sounds really bad! WTF!

For authorities to go on record saying this is bad
..wow!

Officials Are Freaking out About a Soon-To-Be Released Video of a Cop Shooting #SamDubose t.co t.co

Yes. It’s going to be a brutal police (nee Campus - but he had a fucking gun) murder before our very eyes.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:39pm

re: #115 Belafon

I googled because I didn’t know. It looks like it’s called The Most Dangerous Game: en.wikipedia.org.

It’s one of my favourite genres of fiction. John Woo’s Hard Target is one of the best.

But my personal favourite is Avenging Force. This time it’s the liberals who get to kick ass and take names.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:08:49pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s really interesting.

I know nothing about bows or bow-hunting, so the explanation is really cool. It’s one of many, many things where I wish I had time to try it. I grew up on Hindu myths, where bow combat was the height of martial skill, so it’s always been in the back of my head as something neat.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:09:34pm

re: #159 Decatur Deb

It’s fairly natural. Our Anthro department held competitions.

Cool!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:09:56pm

re: #156 calochortus

So people lived a lot longer back in the day?

Only the nut-and-berry eaters.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:12:32pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

Way, way back-in college I did a little archery. One of the guys had a 50 or 60# bow. I could shoot with it once and then my muscles got shaky from the strain. I cannot imagine doing anything constructive with a 95# bow.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:12:52pm

re: #150 The Ghost of a Flea

Wait until I sell SciFi the screenplay treatment.

Am I rich yet? ///
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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:12:58pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Only the nut-and-berry eaters.

Ironic.

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The Dude Abides  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:14:34pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Yep. They are scumbags. That dentist knew exactly what he was doing. I also read that he has been a bundler for Romney.

One thing I’ve come to believe is that we should not collectively call the right wing “the right.” The term has positive connotations, and the less politically knowledgeable could subconsciously agree with some political positions of “the right” because everyone refers to right wingers as “the right.” I much prefer to refer to these right wingers as the “right wing.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:14:57pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

That’s why I said there isn’t enough naltrexone (alcholol antagonist)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:16:09pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Only the nut-and-berry eaters.

Must have been a long tough road.

“Father, I have invented a new food. I call it, ‘cheese.’”
“New food my ass! You let the milk go bad!” (Beats him)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:17:32pm

Mailorder Atl-atls

thunderbirdatlatl.com

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:19:24pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

Some of those are downright beautiful.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:20:24pm

Anyhoo, I’m going to say good night. It’s book-reading time.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:21:25pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Only the nut-and-berry eaters.

We ate seaweed. And liked it!
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:22:07pm

re: #163 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s really interesting.

I know nothing about bows or bow-hunting, so the explanation is really cool. It’s one of many, many things where I wish I had time to try it. I grew up on Hindu myths, where bow combat was the height of martial skill, so it’s always been in the back of my head as something neat.

When people here talk about stickbows, or compound bows that use pulleys to reduce the pull, they’re talking about long, straight, hold-at-arms-length-and-pull-back-to-the-ear European bows.

In India, IIRC, they mainly used short, recurved, composite bows, where you hold the nock to your chest and then basically punch with the bow. You can get a much higher instantaneous pull than trying to hold the arrow back to your ear while you aim.

Of course, punching in the right direction and releasing at just exactly the right instant is also tough….

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:23:31pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

Mailorder Atl-atls

thunderbirdatlatl.com

I was fifty miles east of Candor, NY just a couple of weeks ago.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:24:09pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

I was fifty miles east of Candor, NY just a couple of weeks ago.

Missed your chance to save shipping and handling.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:27:02pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Missed your chance to save shipping and handling.

Lucky me.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:31:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:32:45pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:33:35pm

Oh goodie. A friend at work has TB. I met with health workers today who took this long report to give to a doctor. Maybe I gotta get tested. My friend was confined for a couple weeks, health workers coming to his home each day to watch him take two pills.

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:34:00pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:34:51pm

Mounted Zen Archers

…

‘Nite, all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:36:29pm

re: #166 calochortus

Way, way back-in college I did a little archery. One of the guys had a 50 or 60# bow. I could shoot with it once and then my muscles got shaky from the strain. I cannot imagine doing anything constructive with a 95# bow.

With a compound bow, the force/draw curve actually drops after an initial spike. So, with a 95# bow, you’re holding a whole lot less. Maybe 30# or so.

By contrast, the force/draw curve for a longbow or stickbow increases with increasing draw length, so you are holding the full draw weight at anchor.

95# is insane for most people, even in a compound, but there are a number of folks who have trained themselves to shoot bows in excess of 100# on a regular basis. And I’m talking longbows, not compounds, so they’re not holding 30#. The warbows recovered from the Mary Rose, when replicated with recently-cut Yew, drew in the 100-160# range.

WRT whether it’s ethical to use a bow on African big game, esp. the Big 5 - first, it’s no longer legal to hunt some of them AT ALL,and ethical hunting must first be LEGAL.

Second, again, arrows work VERY differently from bullets. You can’t really compare fps, kinetic energy, or inertia between them sensibly. You want a bullet to expend all its energy in the animal - ideally coming to a stop just under the skin on the far side. An arrow, you want to pass completely through. And they do. It is quite possible for a skilled archer to bring down, with a bow, “ethically”, anything that walks on land. BUT for the Big 5, you’re talking extreme skill and extreme bows and arrows, not something off the shelf at Cabelas.

WRT why big game hunters use big guns? It’s easier, and you’re less likely to die. That’s also why they use double rifles instead of bolt-action rifles.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:37:06pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Imperial pixels

Great band name!

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:40:23pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:41:56pm

re: #183 Kragar

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:42:47pm

re: #176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If nothing else, what you’re describing is certainly how the legendary archers and their weapon are depicted…in particular, the arrow held to the ear pose, is present in 2D and 3D art.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:44:09pm

Thanks asshole, for perpetuating every negative stereotype of people who take hallucinogens.

He’s dead, I know. And I still think he’s an asshole.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:50:36pm

I think we’re approaching 600 people shot and killed by police in the United States. For once, I don’t feel sorry for one of those folks, this fucking guy: #190 Naked and on acid, lunging at the cops with a knife, shot with a taser that didn’t subdue him, so the cops opened fire with their pistols. Boulder Police don’t exactly have a Ferguson Police reputation, I imagine the cops involved will be found justified in their actions.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:54:45pm

Moved upstairs

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2015 • 8:59:49pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

If nothing else, what you’re describing is certainly how the legendary archers and their weapon are depicted…in particular, the arrow held to the ear pose, is present in 2D and 3D art.

Well, you’re right, I should have distinguished—the short composite bow came in with the Central Asian nomads like the Mughals. The Aryans had the traditional longbows, and that’s what would be depicted in the Hindu scriptures.

The longbow was great for hunting, but the rate of fire that could be attained with short composite bows made mounted archers the terror of Asia.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:08:02pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

re: #191 teleskiguy

I’ve thought about these comments after posting them, and I realized (like a sack of potatoes to the head) that they sound fucked up. And they are, they’re fucked up. I’m saying I’m glad a dude’s dead from a cops bullet, in this day and age. So I apologize to anyone offended. But I do not take them back. The initial facts of this case are grossly egregious, with damning evidence on the scene.

Someone called 911 and said the man was high on LSD and had attacked residents with a knife.

A 23-year-old had to go to the hospital.

The 23-year-old victim had a 6-inch cut on his forehead and a bite mark on one hand, police said. He is listed in good condition at Boulder Community Health.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:12:06pm

re: #30 Belafon

shark = white guy
lion = black guy

It’s all code.

Maybe to Shapiro, but that lion wasn’t named for a black man. Cecil the lion was actually named after the same person Zimbabwe was originally named after: Cecil Rhodes, the Lion Jackass of Empire.

Of course, its not the lion’s fault it was named after a man who was an even bigger asshole than Ben Shapiro.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:19:51pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

I’ve thought about these comments after posting them, and I realized (like a sack of potatoes to the head) that they sound fucked up. And they are, they’re fucked up. I’m saying I’m glad a dude’s dead from a cops bullet, in this day and age. So I apologize to anyone offended. But I do not take them back. The initial facts of this case are grossly egregious, with damning evidence on the scene.

A 23-year-old had to go to the hospital.

You’re fine, and you’re right. Its clear the person who was shot did something insanely belligerent and he left the police with no choice but to fire on him. There is nothing wrong with saying “fuck him!” about some dirtbag who decides to attack police who are doing their jobs properly.

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WhatEVs  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:20:07pm

re: #91 #FergusonFireside

Which I progress to do.

First thing I find

In Cologne, Germany, on the Cologne City Hall is a statue of Konrad von Hochstaden.

You sure that’s not Kochstaden?

(Thank ya, thank ya vurry much)

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:22:15pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

I’d like a link about this incident you speak of. I’m sensing a big m’fn false equivalency.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:26:54pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

re: #198 teleskiguy

Whatever. I found one myself. That looks like police incompetency to me. Their job is to de-escalate the situation. In that case I think they never had control of the situation in the first place.

False equivalency! Dude in Palestine, TX was suspected of stealing beer. Dude in Boulder, CO violently attacked his neighbors on acid, naked.

I. Whatever. I don’t know.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:33:21pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

Here’s a link, anyways. I don’t really see it that way. They were trying to remove the man, not arrest him, and he went and pulled what the cops could not afford to see as anything but a gun.

But I wanted to say you were right in what you said, not bother you. In that interest, I’ve modified my post to read as follows:

You’re fine, and you’re right. Its clear the person who was shot did something insanely belligerent and he left the police with no choice but to fire on him. There is nothing wrong with saying “fuck him!” about some dirtbag who decides to attack police who are doing their jobs properly.

Is that alteration to your satisfaction?

201
teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:39:48pm

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a link, anyways.

What link?

Is that alteration to your satisfaction?

I don’t think you needed to alter your comment at all, and I’m indifferent to what you think is to my satisfaction.

But I wanted to say you were right in what you said, not bother you.

You don’t bother me at all. You’ve never bothered me. I don’t even know you! Except on some internet comments, and here I feel comfortable to call bullshit when I see it. And Dark_Falcon, well, we’ve had some words, eh?

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:41:55pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

What link?

I don’t think you needed to alter you comment at all, and I’m indifferent to what you think is to my satisfaction.

You don’t bother me at all. You’ve never bothered me. I don’t even know you! Except on some internet comments, and here I feel comfortable to call bullshit when I see it. And Dark_Falcon, well, we’ve had some words, eh?

We have indeed. Here’s the link, sorry about the goof-up in not posting it before.

Heading upstairs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:43:08pm

re: #193 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, you’re right, I should have distinguished—the short composite bow came in with the Central Asian nomads like the Mughals. The Aryans had the traditional longbows, and that’s what would be depicted in the Hindu scriptures.

The longbow was great for hunting, but the rate of fire that could be attained with short composite bows made mounted archers the terror of Asia.

The problem with composite bows being the glue. Animal glues are water soluble. works great in places where it’s not raining all the damn time. So the English woulda been scroood

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2015 • 9:46:48pm

Dark_Falcon,

re: #201 teleskiguy

I don’t even know you! Except on some internet comments

This isn’t true. Regular posters at LGF know each other, though they most likely have never met in meat space.

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Bird in the Paw  Jul 28, 2015 • 11:18:13pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

@mtaibbi crowd-sourced 25 Drinking Game Rules for the Republican Presidential Debate next week.

Please drink responsibly.

So, basically the game participant is destined for an extreme case of alcohol poisoning. About 15 minutes into a 2 hour debate. Yikes.

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Tigger2  Jul 29, 2015 • 2:55:20pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Where do wingnuts think these “free clinics” are? Oh right..Planned Parenthood.

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