Fox News GOP Debate Open Thread 4: The Clowns Are in Control

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And now, the wrap-up thread for the first Republican Fox News debate.

Hoping these GOP debates will awaken liberals to the importance of fighting back, and voting.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 7, 2015

Because there’s a very determined movement afoot to pull this country back into a very dark time. These are bad people.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 7, 2015

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518 comments

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:12pm

What’s sad is that the RWNJs will think they DESTROYED Hillary Clinton tonight.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:13pm

Ben Carson: “I'm gonna lose this race, so let me try my stand-up routine.” #GOPDebate

— Hemant Mehta (@hemantmehta) August 7, 2015

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:17pm

Standard fear and war mongering.

Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:21pm

Repost from downstairs

thedopefishlives Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:33pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s sad is that the RWNJs will think they DESTROYED Hillary Clinton tonight.

Hillary wasn’t even there, how the fuck is that supposed to work?

No Depression Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:42pm

Hardy har har…

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:51pm

re: #4 Viscous Obama

Larry the Cable Guy, Jackass and Lil Wayne.

Seems legit…

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:02:51pm

“I'm the only one to separate Siamese twins.” THAT'S CONJOINING SHAMING, DR. CARSON. #GOPDebate

— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) August 7, 2015

Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:20pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

Hillary wasn’t even there, how the fuck is that supposed to work?

Because of all these candidates supposed “blows” against her.

b.d. Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:21pm

[walker] I can destroy the country the same way I’ve destroyed Wisconsin [/walker]

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:37pm

Shorter candidate speeches: “PLEASE LOVE ME AND NOT TRUMP!”

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:40pm

Trump’s closing statement should be pretty epic!

LiberalGal Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:42pm

I wonder how Cruz is going to get himself out of the mess he put himself in?

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:03:53pm

After this I have serious doubts about Jeb’s chances. I think he’s proper fucked.

LiberalGal Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:04pm

China China China China China

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:18pm

So, what does Trump have against Japan?

thedopefishlives Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:28pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Because of all these candidates supposed “blows” against her.

She’s not even the official candidate. Heir presumptive or not, campaign on the issues, not on some imaginary opponent. Bunch of stupid fucks.

Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:29pm

Jeb’s response at the end was just awkward. Yeesh, he’s terrible at this.

Pawn of the Oppressor Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:29pm

The right wing has become its own religion. This has nothing to do with America as a political entity anymore - we’re looking at candidates for Pope Estupido.

LiberalGal Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:29pm

Horseshit!!!!!!!

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:37pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

Shit. That wasn’t epic at all!

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:40pm

Trump’s closing statement was awful. “We can’t do anything.”

No Depression Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:52pm

Gotta get all the talking points in.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:56pm

Kind of a flat ending to Trump.

I say Walker came off the best.

Walker/Rubio - your GOP ticket for 2016.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2015 • 8:04:59pm

I WANT TWO HOURS OF MY LIFE BACK, DAMNIT!

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:05:09pm

Jeb looks like I feel.

b.d. Aug 6, 2015 • 8:05:34pm

FoxNews did as bad as their candidates

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:05:36pm

The Faux talking heads mics are still on… eek.

LiberalGal Aug 6, 2015 • 8:05:40pm

Nice to know Trump has such a high opinion of his country!!!!!!!!!!!

thedopefishlives Aug 6, 2015 • 8:06:15pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

I WANT TWO HOURS OF MY LIFE BACK, DAMNIT!

I spent it watching The Avengers on TV and hanging out with you guys. I actually had fun with it. Fuck the right-wingers, I’ve had enough of their shit over the last 30 years. I’m a moderate and proud of it.

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:06:55pm

Awkward in, awkward out.

Tigger2 Aug 6, 2015 • 8:07:22pm

What is depressing is the fact that half of the country is going to vote for one of those idiots on stage tonight, the country has sure gone downhill over the last few decades.

ObserverArt Aug 6, 2015 • 8:07:40pm

I am out…this has been trying. And thus, very tiring.

And a lot of other stuff.

Being with the LGFers helps make it all bearable. Good evening…

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:07:51pm

What a shit show. And there’s millions of waterheads in the United States that take these fucking dolts seriously.

BongCrodny Aug 6, 2015 • 8:07:57pm

“The center the political universe is Cleveland, Ohio.”

Did I miss something?

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:08:10pm

Though I’m glad that site I used to watch the stream put up Fox news, looking at the rest of the site it appears they are a very nasty site. Don’t recommend linking iit again.

thedopefishlives Aug 6, 2015 • 8:08:32pm

re: #32 Tigger2

What is depressing is the fact that half of the country is going to vote for one of those idiots on stage tonight, the country has sure gone downhill over the last few decades.

I think the problem is that half of the country will vote for anyone with an R in front of their name, regardless of who they are or what they actually stand for. I mean, who does that?

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2015 • 8:08:51pm

Alright, I’ve had enough. I got work in the morning and I’ve already killed enough brain cells for one day. Later, my lizards.

Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 8:08:54pm

Who won that shit show?

Ace-o-aces Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:01pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Trumps closing statement was awful. “We can’t do anything.”

Trump wants to beat all our major trading partners. Because if we win trade, then the US gets a big trade prize. Right? That’s how trade works, isn’t it?

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:17pm

I guess that site will stream just about anything, so I’m not sure it’s their stances that are review, but they do link to some stupid and hateful stuff.

Stephen T. Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:22pm

re: #39 Jenner7

Who won that shit show?

I have no idea. But I think I know who lost.

We did.

BongCrodny Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:34pm

re: #4 Viscous Obama

Chase, I’m surprised you had to ask that question.

They ALL have.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:42pm

re: #39 Jenner7

Who won that shit show?

Hillary Clinton.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:09:49pm

re: #39 Jenner7

Who won that shit show?

Faux.

Faux advertisers.

Kochs and friends.

Walker.

Ace-o-aces Aug 6, 2015 • 8:10:01pm

I went out to dinner with my in-laws, didn’t see the debate until the closing statements. I miss anything good?

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:10:15pm

re: #36 freetoken

Though I’m glad that site I used to watch the stream put up Fox news, looking at the rest of the site it appears they are a very nasty site. Don’t recommend linking iit again.

Yeah, that site was dirty.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:10:26pm

MP3 Audio

thedopefishlives Aug 6, 2015 • 8:10:40pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

I went out to dinner with my in-laws, didn’t see the debate until the closing statements. I miss anything good?

God, abortions, Hillary Clinton, military, Obama. I think I covered it all.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:11:21pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

God, abortions, Hillary Clinton, military, Obama. I think I covered it all.

You forgot Trump calling all our leaders “Stupid!”

Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 8:11:29pm

I think they all lost. lol But it will be interesting to see Trump’s polling. Will his numbers plummet now??

Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:11:33pm

Walker had the stage presence of moldy bread. Huckabee stole his mojo

Ace-o-aces Aug 6, 2015 • 8:11:39pm

Cruz’s policy priorities seem to be based on memes he’s seen on #tcot.

BongCrodny Aug 6, 2015 • 8:12:57pm

Ben Carson, “Freedom Is Not Free.”

He stole that from an “Up With People” song.

BeachDem Aug 6, 2015 • 8:13:09pm

re: #24 freetoken

Kind of a flat ending to Trump.

I say Walker came off the best.

Walker/Rubio - your GOP ticket for 2016.

I think Rafalca was ahead by a nose. Rafalca/Trump’s hair—just for the intelligence factor.

Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:14:34pm

pbs.twimg.com

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:14:56pm

National Review got a stiffy watching Carly’s performance during the junior varsity event.

Carly http://t.co/yuBD0d0Tbp pic.twitter.com/XQWyuSXkxw

— National Review (@NRO) August 7, 2015

ipsos Aug 6, 2015 • 8:15:22pm

Stewart is giving me all the feels that the debate didn’t.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:15:53pm

Seriously, I think Trump won the early part by making the show about himself. But his inability to articulate the next level of policy, beyond “stoopid”, just makes him look like amateur like Carson.

When Walker talks about teacher unions and union bosses - he’s doing the longer term campaign planning (as well as serving his bosses.)

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:16:56pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

The self-declared conservatives today who like to think of themselves as the “thinking” ones all got stiffies watching Fiorina.

They really, really want a woman on the stage at the next show.

Ace-o-aces Aug 6, 2015 • 8:17:27pm

re: #59 freetoken

When Walker talks about teacher unions and union bosses - he’s doing the longer term campaign planning (as well as serving his bosses.)

Walker’s had enough of those teachers, trying to force their fancy book learnin’ on people.

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:17:27pm

re: #58 ipsos

Stewart is giving me all the feels that the debate didn’t.

It’s epic so far. So going to miss Jon.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:17:30pm

I thought John Kasich’s answer on gay marriage was a good answer. It’s like he’s trying to moderate his own party on the issue.

Overall, I think Kasich came out of the debate as the most sane and poised of the lot.

BongCrodny Aug 6, 2015 • 8:17:49pm

Man, that is one old white focus group.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 6, 2015 • 8:17:52pm

John McCain’s farewell message to Jon Stewart just now.

LOLOLOLOL

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:18:38pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

It’s just a losing issue and only the Protestant fundamentalists want to fight that battle any more.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:20:07pm

I like commenting at LGF on debate nights and election days. My karma gets padded nicely.

:-D

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:21:03pm

My prediction - over the next few days we are going to see Trump slowly gown in the polls, while Walker and Rubio go up a bit.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 6, 2015 • 8:21:19pm

…

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:22:29pm

re: #68 freetoken

My prediction - over the next few days we are going to see Trump slowly gown in the polls, while Walker and Rubio go up a bit.

Til Trump ramps up the cray cray again.

b_sharp Aug 6, 2015 • 8:22:31pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I like commenting at LGF on debate nights and election days. My karma gets padded nicely.

:-D

As does your room.

Here are your keys sir. Don’t climb the walls please.

jaunte Aug 6, 2015 • 8:22:40pm

Lots of talk about needing more military “strength” tonight. $700B/year is strong enough pic.twitter.com/pJT2NxsKvH

— Progressive phd (@CallOut4) August 7, 2015

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:23:02pm

The fact that The Donald™ has not ruled out a third party run should he not get the nomination should have Republicans who really want the White House running scared. That kind of scenario might result in 538 electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in November 2016.

teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:24:30pm

re: #71 b_sharp

As does your room.

Here are your keys sir. Don’t climb the walls please.

Aren’t you supposed to keep the keys away from the asylum inmates?

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:24:43pm

That was literally traumatic. Sitting here with PTSD from having my brain raped through my ear holes.

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:26:56pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

That was literally traumatic. Sitting here with PTSD from having my brain raped through my ear holes.

Turn on the Daily Show finale. It’s Teh Awesum!

Edit. Fucking iPhone keyboard!

Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:26:57pm

Can we all agree Bush sucked

b_sharp Aug 6, 2015 • 8:27:15pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Aren’t you supposed to keep the keys away from the asylum inmates?

We kind of want you to escape.

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Aug 6, 2015 • 8:27:33pm

<ere: #68 freetoken

Neither Walker nor Rubio will ever have any significant support among southern and western red state rednecks.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:28:36pm

Analysis: Christie’s claim of balancing $11B deficit in N.J. misleading

I’m not surprised.

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:29:24pm

re: #79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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Neither Walker nor Rubio will ever have any significant support among southern and western red state rednecks.

Rubio I can see. Walker, I disagree. A stiff white guy? He’ll get their vote.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:29:54pm

re: #77 Viscous Obama

Can we all agree Bush sucked

Not clear and forceful enough. Didn’t differentiate himself from the crowd.

But with name recognition he’s still got the strong suit.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 6, 2015 • 8:30:15pm

Colbert to Stewart: I was the son of a turd miner…you took me in…if not for you, I would have maybe died of dung lung.

or something like that. I was laughing too much to get it verbatim.

blueraven Aug 6, 2015 • 8:30:54pm

OK they all sucked, but putting on my analyst hat…

Rubio probably came off the best. Not that I agree with a word he said, but he was better on style.

Trump was awful in my opinion and I suspect he will begin to tank.

Jeb was really bad too.

Carson, never had a chance and nothing changed.

Kasich is too much about “feelings” for the GOP.

Walker is sooo boring.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:31:30pm

re: #81 WhatEVs

No one loves the little future-tithers-in-the-womb more than Walker.

Yes, he’ll get the Southern religious voters.

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:32:34pm

re: #84 blueraven

Rubio sounded the most presidential.

They’re gonna love Trump, though. What are the talking heads saying?

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:32:41pm

The Slaters seem to think Trump won:

slate.com?

jaunte Aug 6, 2015 • 8:32:57pm

Fox News Turns On Trump In Hard-Charging Debate
buzzfeed.com

“It’s unclear what kind of orders Ailes gave may have given his moderators”

ORLY?

BeachDem Aug 6, 2015 • 8:33:28pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Colbert to Stewart: I was the son of a turd miner…you took me in…if not for you, I would have maybe died of dung lung.

or something like that. I was laughing too much to get it verbatim.

I watched Colbert’s part and a few other minutes, but want to watch the whole thing tomorrow with a fresh outlook and no residue from the GOP shitshow to cloud the experience.

Lidane Aug 6, 2015 • 8:34:19pm

The Fox bobbleheads are saying that Rubio had the most “moments” in the debate and that he did really well.

Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 6, 2015 • 8:34:38pm

FWIW: My next door neighbors are a couple in their twenties and their two housemates. They were all out on the patio watching the debate on their tablets. Though they seem to be reasonably normal (Or as near as possible as you can be in your twenties) they haven’t decided whom they’re going to vote for and they liked some of the things that various candidates said. One of them likes Trump because “He stirs people up and gets them talking.”

Though this is one isolated incident I think that taking the youth vote for granted would be a colossal mistake.

jaunte Aug 6, 2015 • 8:34:43pm

Marco Rubio has a distinct “I'm reading you a Hallmark Card” voice. #GOPDebate

— The National Memo (@NationalMemo) August 7, 2015

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:36:56pm

re: #91 Higgs Boson’s Mate

FWIW: My next door neighbors are a couple in their twenties and their two housemates. They were all out on the patio watching the debate on their tablets. Though they seem to be reasonably normal (Or as near as possible as you can be in your twenties) they haven’t decided whom they’re going to vote for and they liked some of the things that various candidates said. One of them likes Trump because “He stirs people up and gets them talking.”

Though this is one isolated incident I think that taking the youth vote for granted would be a colossal mistake.

Plus, Trump has the possibility to get non-voters who love Kim Kardashian and U.S. Magazine. Honestly, that terrifies me.

freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 8:37:24pm

re: #91 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I agree.

If we look at politics as entertainment, Trump has great entertainment value.

If he runs as an independent he will take votes away from the Dem as well as the GOP.

I don’t deal with enough young people today to get a really good feel of what is trending as far as their potential willingness to vote. But in a world dominated by tweets and Youtube cat videos I will put nothing past the ability of some well engineering campaign to draw in millions of 20-somethings into voting for nonsense.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 6, 2015 • 8:38:11pm

re: #91 Higgs Boson’s Mate

We can’t afford to take anything for granted. We all (being reasonable and actually educated) know this debate was a complete shitshow, but mark my words. This crap resonated with millions of people across the country. Sitting back just assuming Hillary is going to win next year will be the biggest mistake ever. Not just for us, but for the world.

And Hillary may not even be the DNC nominee. That’s part of my point. We cannot be lax about this next election, or any election in the future. Look at who is waiting in the wings!

jaunte Aug 6, 2015 • 8:39:29pm

.@HaviTheCorgi SCURRED OF TRUMP PIÑATA https://t.co/kXvGzO7Ffj #GOPDebate

— ¡Gabe Ortíz! (@TUSK81) August 7, 2015

goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 8:40:00pm

re: #76 WhatEVs

Turn on the Daily Show finale. It’s Teh Awesum!

Edit. Fucking iPhone keyboard!

West Coast.

WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 8:40:55pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

West Coast.

I forgot. It’s always like you’re sitting right next to me. :-)

Kragar Aug 6, 2015 • 8:41:12pm

Oh darn, I seemed to have missed the debate. What an unfortunate event.

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blueraven Aug 6, 2015 • 8:41:26pm

Welp…it’s Drudge

@Alex_Panetta @FrankLuntz Those people watched a different debate I guess. This is from Drudge. pic.twitter.com/gTGj5dIg6Q

— Mr. Rigid (@JasonnWarren) August 7, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:41:48pm

re: #99 Kragar

Oh darn, I seemed to have missed the debate. What an unfortunate event.

A synopsis:

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jaunte Aug 6, 2015 • 8:43:13pm

I'll say it again — “Rosie O'Donnell” made me laugh hardest tonight.
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) August 7, 2015

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Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:43:29pm

You know it’s the end of an era when the Paul-bots can’t win internet polls anymore

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ipsos Aug 6, 2015 • 8:44:38pm

Wherein Mr. Stewart tells us what he’s learned, lo these 17 years.

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Kragar Aug 6, 2015 • 8:45:21pm

I was really intending on watching the #GOPDebate but then I realized Wing Commander was on Netflix.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 7, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 6, 2015 • 8:48:23pm

Jon Stewart’s Bullshit lecture is brilliant.

Brilliant.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:50:00pm

The ski areas in the Andes Mountains are having an epic winter. @SteepSkiing posted this on his Facebook.

We got about 4-5 “cans” of snow here at Ski Portillo Chile last night. And it’s still coming!

I will do an endless winter, someday.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 8:51:52pm

Trump: “I thought Megyn [Kelly] behaved very badly, personally.”

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 7, 2015

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retired cynic Aug 6, 2015 • 8:53:04pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Viscous Obama Aug 6, 2015 • 8:55:21pm

megyn kelly: do you think that god is a trapezoid carson: what rubio: colors can be eaten with a fork walker: i am sound

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) August 7, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 6, 2015 • 8:56:45pm

Jon Stewart’s Moment of Zen…

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Aug 6, 2015 • 8:59:03pm

“Fletch” is now streaming on Netflix. I loved that movie when it originally came out, but in retrospect I realize that’s probably because I was 12.

Nevertheless, the soundtrack synths are spiffy, and there was also Geena Davis.

Edit: I understand now what Johnny Carson meant when he said that “Chevy Chase couldn’t ad-lib a fart after a chili bean banquet.”

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Joe Bacon Aug 6, 2015 • 9:01:27pm

Well, I believe the #1 loser of the night is Jeb Bush. Good Lord, he makes Dumbya look like a Ph.D

The second biggest loser was Carson. He sounded like Floyd the Mayberry barber on LSD!

I’m very curious to see what happens to Trump in the polls, I got a feeling he still may have gotten a bounce!

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FormerDirtDart Aug 6, 2015 • 9:01:31pm

“I'm just gonna say, I'm going to get a drink. And I'm sure I'll see you guys before I leave.”- Jon Stewart pic.twitter.com/z2SmBYrD80

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) August 7, 2015

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 9:03:46pm

Bernie desperately trying to set up the Operation Chaos vote. I’m officially over him now. Fuck that guy.

Bernie Sanders accepts invitation to speak at Liberty University http://t.co/QXtkKHTUU7 pic.twitter.com/nFhZgw5Auo

— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) August 7, 2015

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:06:10pm

re: #112 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

“Fletch” is now streaming on Netflix. I loved that movie when it originally came out, but in retrospect I realize that’s probably because I was 12.

Nevertheless, the soundtrack synths are spiffy, and there was also Geena Davis.

Edit: I understand now what Johnny Carson meant when he said that “Chevy Chase couldn’t ad-lib a fart after a chili bean banquet.”

I read every single Fletch books. And loved each one. Ok, they were better than the movie, but that’s usually how it goes.

I can never look at Tim Matheson the same. I read Kirsty Alley’s book and he’s a skeeze. Funny book that was.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:10:25pm

So my Logitech Trackman is finally on its last legs. I go to Amazon to buy a replacement and see that … it now goes for $350! :

amazon.com

I should have bought a lot of them years ago when I bought the one I have now.

Currently Logitech only offers a wireless version… but I found in the past that the wireless Trackmans develop communication problems for me, the battery compartment causing problems . But I guess now I have now choice but to buy the newer, blue ball, wireless version.

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thecommodore Aug 6, 2015 • 9:13:53pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

Hillary Clinton.

Bingo.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Aug 6, 2015 • 9:17:25pm

Countin’ reminders that I have to go to work tomorrow on the wall

That don’t bother me at all

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:17:54pm

re: #117 freetoken

I went out to buy a wired mouse (wireless sux for what you said. No precision at all!) and I had one option at $40. Time to hit Amazon.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 9:20:29pm

Now I feel better. Mr. Always Wrong offers his fresh from the oven hot take.

Big picture after tonight's debates: GOP in pretty good shape.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) August 7, 2015

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Kragar Aug 6, 2015 • 9:22:16pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

Based on his track record, the GOP is doomed. https://t.co/WPhvX4j4BA

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 7, 2015

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 6, 2015 • 9:25:18pm

Trump: I’M GONNA BUILD A WALL!!!!!

El Chapo: Sure, gringo. That worked on me. And I was surrounded by them.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:25:47pm

re: #120 WhatEVs

$6 bucks for a wired mouse at Amazon? And Best Buy wanted $40? Are you shitting me?

Bought.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:25:52pm

re: #120 WhatEVs

Sanwa makes a Trackman knockoff that is still wired. It gets very mixed reviews. I’ll probably go with the Logitech.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 9:27:36pm

90 minutes later and I still have that post debate food poisoning-esque feeling, like I ingested something really depraved.

Watching that was not a good idea.

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SpaceJesus Aug 6, 2015 • 9:27:58pm

FOX going all-in against Trump. It’s not working. They made this Frankenstein and they can’t stop it, it’s awesome.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:29:12pm

re: #125 freetoken

Sanwa makes a Trackman knockoff that is still wired. It gets very mixed reviews. I’ll probably go with the Logitech.

I got the one with the highest star rating. A mini coz I have little hands. Best Buy didn’t have a mini. They had one…ONE wired mouse. I feel like a dinosaur.

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RealityBasedSteve Aug 6, 2015 • 9:29:56pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

90 minutes later and I still have that post debate food poisoning-esque feeling, like I ingested something really depraved.

Watching that was not a good idea.

This was the “Gas Station Sushi” of Political Dialog.

RBS

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:31:09pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

90 minutes later and I still have that post debate food poisoning-esque feeling, like I ingested something really depraved.

Watching that was not a good idea.

I know. It’s fun to laugh at until you realize these are supposed serious people and it’s our fucking country. It’s not a reality show.

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PT Barnum Aug 6, 2015 • 9:31:18pm

re: #120 WhatEVs

Look at the Kensington with the HUGE ball. I got mine used in what, but Ill never go back.

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Joe Bacon Aug 6, 2015 • 9:33:05pm

re: #127 SpaceJesus

FOX going all-in against Trump. It’s not working. They made this Frankenstein and they can’t stop it, it’s awesome.

I agree with you. Looks like Fox can’t stop Trump even though they did everything they could to derail him and pump up Kasich! Now, I expect Fiorina to rise in the polls after she rolled over everyone on the second tier!

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Mattand Aug 6, 2015 • 9:33:47pm

re: #130 WhatEVs

I know. It’s fun to laugh at until you realize these are supposed serious people and it’s our fucking country. It’s not a reality show.

I’m not so much scared by the Klown Kar passengers, as I am by the fact that people out there think these people would make great leaders.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:37:26pm

re: #133 Mattand

I’m not so much scared by the Klown Kar passengers, as I am by the fact that people out there think these people would make great leaders.

Agreed completely. The POTUS went from a personality contest to a reality show. It’s terrifying.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 6, 2015 • 9:38:49pm

re: #131 PT Barnum

Look at the Kensington with the HUGE ball. I got mine used in what, but Ill never go back.

Seconded. I used one of those for three straight years at work. Good tool and very comfortable for me to use.

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retired cynic Aug 6, 2015 • 9:41:29pm

I use a Mac magic mouse, wireless, that works like a trackpad and a mouse combined. I love it!

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 9:45:48pm

Is there a collection of highlights from the “debate”?

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:48:25pm

re: #137 Nyet

Is there a collection of highlights from the “debate”?

Highlights?

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 9:48:52pm

Photos, cont.

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RealityBasedSteve Aug 6, 2015 • 9:49:30pm

Well, I’m off to bed and start reading the manual for my new toy. It’s a new dive computer, has all the features I need now, and a bit down the road. Also has a transmitter that attaches to my tank, lets me know how much air pressure I have, and based on the rate I’m consuming it, how long it will last.

It’s a big step up from my current one, which will now become my trusty backup computer.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:49:42pm

There were some lowlights.

Huckabee going with “pimps and prostitutes” when talking about social programs.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:50:28pm

re: #139 Nyet

Well, I’ve ruled out Grand Island, Nebraska, and Walla Walla, Washington too.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2015 • 9:50:37pm

Er….https://t.co/5uFU2jtxyP

— Chris Cillizza (@TheFix) August 7, 2015

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 9:50:54pm

re: #136 retired cynic

I use a Mac magic mouse, wireless, that works like a trackpad and a mouse combined. I love it!

Second vote for the Magic Mouse. It gobbles up AA batteries though, well worth investing in some rechargeables.

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RealityBasedSteve Aug 6, 2015 • 9:51:38pm

re: #141 freetoken

There were some lowlights.

Huckabee going with “pimps and prostitutes” when talking about social programs.

That’s because “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves” was already taken.

RBS

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 9:51:47pm

Germany Convicts Notorious Russian Hacker In Navalny Email Breach

Interestingly, the sad little fucker still denies that it’s him.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:52:08pm

Years ago I switched to the Trackman when it first came out. Ever since have used them. Can’t stand mice.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:52:40pm

So the next “debate” is in September, is it not?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 6, 2015 • 9:52:55pm

re: #133 Mattand

I’m not so much scared by the Klown Kar passengers, as I am by the fact that people out there think these people would make great leaders.

They were lost to us the second that affirmation became more lucrative than information and maintaining a narrative became more important than facts.

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RealityBasedSteve Aug 6, 2015 • 9:53:29pm

re: #148 freetoken

So the next “debate” is in September, is it not?

Never have I found myself wishing for the utter and total destruction of the Earth more than at this moment.

RBS

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:53:54pm

Sep 16 in Salem, via CNN:

uspresidentialelectionnews.com

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:55:40pm

RT @JanePitt: ? Cruz ? Christie ? Trump ? Paul ? Rubio ? Bush ? Walker ? Kasich ? Carson ? Huckabee ? Big giant asteroid

— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) August 7, 2015

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 9:55:46pm

re: #151 freetoken

Sep 16 in Salem, via CNN:

uspresidentialelectionnews.com

There will probably be some historical reconstruction at the same time…

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:56:36pm

Every month a “debate”.

Aren’t we fortunate?

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 9:59:12pm

And that’s just the GOP. Starting in Oct the Democratic Party will too have a monthly debate. They will likely be even more boring.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 9:59:17pm

re: #151 freetoken

Sep 16 in Salem, via CNN:

uspresidentialelectionnews.com

I wonder if CNN will close with the topper of whether God speaks to the candidates.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 6, 2015 • 9:59:44pm

re: #151 freetoken

Right link though it looks to me that the debate will be held in the Reagan Library which is located in seraphically white-bread Simi Valley, Ca.
Moderators will be the hard hitting Jake Tapper and Hugh “Man tits” Hewitt.

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psddluva4evah Aug 6, 2015 • 10:01:17pm

Meanwhile HRC was “Keeping up with the Kardashians”

Hillary spent the #GOPDebate with Kim and Kanye: http://t.co/lm9lWA8ukP pic.twitter.com/k3FEuTdr3o

— The Hill (@thehill) August 7, 2015

Caitlyn Jenner not pleased w/ this I'm assuming pic.twitter.com/W2R1juMY7o

— Hunter Schwarz (@hunterschwarz) August 7, 2015

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:01:45pm

re: #158 psddluva4evah

And getting many more viewers too.

But will they vote?

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 10:02:19pm

re: #151 freetoken

Sep 16 in Salem, via CNN:

uspresidentialelectionnews.com

Not in Salem, hosted by Salem Communications. It takes place at the Reagan Library here in Simi Valley, just a few miles away from me.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:02:42pm

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:02:48pm

I’m coming around more and more to the idea that we’d be better off with a more parliamentary system.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:03:22pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

Thanks for correcting me.

Salem Communications, i.e., HotAir, RedState, etc.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:03:47pm

Also Ring Of Honor wrestling. How fitting.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 6, 2015 • 10:04:05pm

re: #159 freetoken

And getting many more viewers too.

But will they vote?

Only if Congress suddenly authorizes Voting by Twitter.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:05:15pm

Whoops… sorry, ROH is part of Sinclair Broadcasting.

But Sinclair is almost as bad, refusing to air some of Obama’s TV appearances.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:06:43pm

Salem Communications brings us the Je$u$ websites like Crosstalk.

They have a large radio network.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 10:07:44pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

The Best Of the Daily Show is on now. FYI.

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 10:08:34pm

re: #139 Nyet

Did you check out the classical music hall while you were there? I think it is one of the nicest modern theaters I’ve seen in Europe, the Casa de Musica. My friends who’ve played there say it’s a great space for music.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 10:08:36pm

re: #167 freetoken

Salem Communications brings us the Je$u$ websites like Crosstalk.

They have a large radio network.

It’s co-hosted by CNN, but I have no faith in Jake Tapper to counteract Hewitt’s bullshit. It’ll be another straight up shit-show.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 10:08:39pm

re: #162 freetoken

I’m coming around more and more to the idea that we’d be better off with a more parliamentary system.

Me too.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 10:09:49pm

re: #158 psddluva4evah

Meanwhile HRC was “Keeping up with the Kardashians”

[Embedded content]

I officially hate ~~this country~~ everything now.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:10:32pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Was CNN too poor to pay for it themselves, or did the wingnut GOP candidates find CNN so unappealing that they demanded some brown-nosing by a religious right organization?

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:11:30pm

Frankly I doubt Kardashian viewers are votes.

I guess HRC wants to be hip or something.

Barrack Obama she is not.

Which is why she lost to him in the first place.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:11:30pm

re: #169 LastYearsMan

Only outside (I live a few meters away from it).

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 10:11:38pm

re: #162 freetoken

I’m coming around more and more to the idea that we’d be better off with a more parliamentary system.

Nah. I grew up with Parliamentary systems, and they create a whole different sort of problems. The US system needs some major work, but the concept of checks-and-balances is pretty sweet. It’s the only government system I know of that, at its core, assumes people suck and are untrustworthy. Dysfunction in US politics isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 10:12:06pm

re: #173 freetoken

Was CNN too poor to pay for it themselves, or did the wingnut GOP candidates find CNN so unappealing that they demanded some brown-nosing by a religious right organization?

I’m certain they’re still holding a grudge over Candy Crowley correcting Romney in 2012.

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 10:12:34pm

re: #175 Nyet

Oh, you live there? I totally missed that. Sorry. I thought those were vacation photos.

Have you lived there long? Ever check out Fantasporto in late-February/early-March? It’s one of my favorite film festivals in the world.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:13:02pm

re: #178 LastYearsMan

I stay*

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:14:43pm

re: #176 LastYearsMan

I agree it’s a feature, but a bicameral Congress I think is now hurting us.

I’d replace the Senate with a Board of Governors (made up of the actual state governors) who sole power would be stuff like Inspector Generals, and to vote on impeachment of Executive and Judicial officials.

Keep a President/VP but make them directly electable.

A single legislative body of Representatives would be enough to be a check and balance against the Executive branch.

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WhatEVs Aug 6, 2015 • 10:15:56pm

re: #174 freetoken

Frankly I doubt Kardashian viewers are votes.

I guess HRC wants to be hip or something.

Barrack Obama she is not.

Which is why she lost to him in the first place.

Kardashian voters may not vote. But you have reality star Trump running. I think it’s super smart Hilary does that. Kim Kardashian has more than a million followers who totally love her; live for her next tweet.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:17:06pm

Love the photos Sergey!

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:18:27pm

re: #162 freetoken

I’m coming around more and more to the idea that we’d be better off with a more parliamentary system.

QFT

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goddamnedfrank Aug 6, 2015 • 10:18:38pm

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Timothy Watson Aug 6, 2015 • 10:22:22pm

I should go back to bed, but I am so pissed about the big pile of steaming shit that got left in my work e-mail last night I probably won’t be able to.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:29:23pm

While Russia is burning the forbidden food:

Today I dropped again. 49.32$ (-0.94) #Oil #Brent

— ???? ?? ????? (@World_Oil_Price) August 6, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:31:20pm

if we cared about actual policy and not Jerry Springer OH DAMN shit, Kasich would be a front runner. but we ain't pic.twitter.com/B6LECMHhfR

— john r stanton (@dcbigjohn) August 7, 2015

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:35:13pm

Trump said one intelligent thing tonight. When he was talking about healthcare he mentioned the artificial boundaries set up by state lines, in regards to insurance.

This infatuation with “states rights” by the wingnuts grows out of an older view of the world, in which US states had to have more meaning because transportation was too slow to tie together a continent.

Back in the days of Jimmy Carter the idea was floated, and Carter himself, IIRC, discussed the idea of a better designed form of government, that included a more regional view of the US that the fragmentation of “states”.

But people are attached to their “state” for sentimental reasons, much like sports teams. It’s a form of bonding.

Saying goodbye to the past is not easy but it has to be done. Today’s GOP markets itself to those afraid of change, afraid of the future.

As Carter found out, and the imaginative political theorists of the day discovered, Americans were not willing to give up their identification of being part of this or that state.

We humans are afraid of not being in control. This is part of the aims of the “states rights” marketers - to cast DC as an evil monster who will force you to lose control of your own life.

But that is a ruse, designed to keep local state assemblies more open to being controlled by special interests like ALEC.

So when I talk about a more parliamentary system I mean moving away from the death grip of “states rights” and accepting that we really are one nation, work as one nation, and that state borders cause as many problems as they might fix.

Taking away the US Senate undos the stronghold of small states in forcing the majority of the population to do the will of the few.

Now, some may say we should be glad for small states like Vermont, as they don’t send wingnuts to the Senate like Texas or Oklahoma. Well, yes, but the flip side is true too. In a single body Congress, the people of California and New York and the urban areas of Illinois and Pennsylvania and Florida, as well as the less-wingnut urban areas of Texas (like Houston and Dallas) will have a more representative voice. The Ted Cruzes of this world would then be a single voice among (say) 535, not a single voice among 100 where any single Senator can scuttle a nomination by putting a personal hold on it.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:36:26pm

Anybody else keeping an eye on the Ophelia Benson brouhaha?

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:38:37pm

re: #189 Nyet

Who is Ophelia Benson and why should I care?

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:40:12pm

re: #190 freetoken

Meta stuff.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:40:39pm

re: #191 Nyet

I googled her and found no news for the past week or so.

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 10:41:43pm

re: #192 freetoken

Don’t think she was ever on the news.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:42:23pm

Donald Trump Captures the Hearts of Young Republicans

At a GOP debate-watching party, even skeptics became fans by the end of the night

So be it.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:43:47pm

re: #188 freetoken

I’ve read somewhere that the Senate is the least-democratic legislative body out there. Too true.

Bill Maher (he’s a broken clock around here, but bear with me) had an idea that he espoused on his show a while back. OK, folks don’t want to get rid of the Senate because CONSTITION or tradition or whatever. Then make the Senate proportional. Three seats for California, New York, Florida, Texas; Two seats for Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Illinois; One seat for Wyoming, Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:43:51pm

Trump wasn’t always their first choice for a candidate; Scott Walker and Rand Paul fans seemed to dominate. But The Donald still tugged at their hearts. Jared Russell, a 30 year-old real-estate agent, is a Rand Paul guy. But he too was excited about Trump’s candidacy—and loves his business background. Mark Vargas, 34, loved his plainspokenness. “He’s speaking for the majority of Americans, and I’m certainly excited about the energy—positive or negative—that he’s bringing to this race.” Vargas then introduced me to Tareq Salahi—of White House state dinner-crashing fame—who’s another big Trump fan. “It’s the most energy of a first debate that I’ve seen,” said Salahi. “I love Trump’s positions calling all the old-school politicians out.”

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retired cynic Aug 6, 2015 • 10:45:01pm

re: #196 freetoken

GAG.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:47:42pm

re: #197 retired cynic

GAG.

Young people, what do you expect?

I just wish they’d stay off my lawn….

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Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 10:48:07pm

Most people in the Luntz focus group on Fox loves them some Huckabee. They were peeved at Trump. They are convinced that if he runs a third party, then we’ll have President Clinton.

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Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 10:49:07pm

And I’m surprised more people didn’t catch Cruz’s ooops. He said he’ll persecute religious liberty.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:49:33pm

re: #199 Jenner7

Fox focus group, like everything else about this “debate”, is about providing to their loyal audience what they want to hear.

In this case the religious right is really pushing to keep control of the GOP.

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 10:50:53pm

re: #200 Jenner7

I caught it, but it was so clearly a mistake that I think most people knew what he meant.

Now, I do wonder if somehow his subconscious is speaking, and he really does want to persecute Muslims, Pagans, and everybody else not a tongue-talking fundamentalist.

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 10:51:26pm

re: #199 Jenner7

I know Luntz, back in his UPenn days. He’s really sharp and insightful, but as a pollster, totally unethical (or, at least, unreliable). I’d love to see him do some real, impartial polling, but everything you see him do on Fox is totally biased, for one client or another.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:51:47pm

re: #196 freetoken

The quotes coming from these guys are people my age and I think they’re fucking deluded. Yeah! Let’s elect a Reality TV Star and overall shitty billionaire humunkuloid who cums every time he sees himself in the mirror. Just what the United States needs! Egomania. Money! Now. NOW!

Regular Guy Tweet: Family. God. Country. Pornography. Guns. Bar fights. War. Don't read. Sports. Debt. Alcohol. Historical Ignorance.

— eddie pepitone (@eddiepepitone) July 28, 2015

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 10:52:27pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Reforming government is like changing the length of the alimentary canal — the end product is still the same.

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retired cynic Aug 6, 2015 • 10:53:34pm

re: #205 LastYearsMan

And I’m the cynic? <grin>

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:53:51pm

re: #199 Jenner7

They were peeved at Trump. They are convinced that if he runs a third party, then we’ll have President Clinton.

I’m glad some of Luntz’s sample are getting their information from the Institute For The Incredibly Fucking Obvious. They’re not totally immune to facts.

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Jenner7 Aug 6, 2015 • 10:55:45pm

Well, I can’t keep my eyes open. G’night all. Have a good weekend.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 10:58:00pm

Kelly Carlin retweeted this. My mentions have kind of blown up.

Ladies and gentleman, the next president of the United States, Scott Walker! RT @TheFix: Er…. https://t.co/Lx09grKJ3z

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 7, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 11:02:02pm

The #GOPDebate featured a true “confederacy of dunces”— a group of dunces who want to revive the Confederacy.

— Lando Kardashian (@LandoKardashian) August 7, 2015

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 6, 2015 • 11:03:14pm

re: #194 freetoken

Donald Trump Captures the Hearts of Young Republicans

So be it.

it will be delicious if it turns out that the debate didnt kill trump the way luntz and fox think it did

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freetoken Aug 6, 2015 • 11:05:35pm

re: #211 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

We’ll know by next week how Trump’s attraction has changed. I really don’t know what to think. I’m too separated from today’s youth, especially those would self-identify as “Republican”.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 11:05:44pm

re: #211 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it will be delicious if it turns out that the debate didnt kill trump the way luntz and fox think it did

I think Trump will come out of this largely unscathed. Of all places, Vox had some good analysis of what Trump said and how it resonates with GOP voters.

Donald Trump made a shockingly insightful comment on money in American politics http://t.co/EWcXE5ju6k pic.twitter.com/yXD6kvNuvt

— Vox (@voxdotcom) August 7, 2015

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LastYearsMan Aug 6, 2015 • 11:06:58pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

And Krugman had the good blog post the other day pointing out that Trump is actually less crazy than most of the other “serious” GOP candidates.

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JamesWI Aug 6, 2015 • 11:07:55pm

Ignoring everything else I know and loathe about Scott Walker, I just can’t believe that someone can go on national television and say he wouldn’t allow abortion in cases where the pregnancy would kill the woman, and somehow still be considered one of the front-runners.

I mean……that’s just completely insane! Kelly even pointed out that something like 83 or 86% of Americans support the option of abortion in those cases (because….duh?), and he still tried to claim that his insane position was in line with the majority of Americans. He actually thinks it’s “pro-life” to say that both the “baby” and mother should die, rather than saving the woman easily by removing a little clump of cells. And this man could be President.

Seriously….I just don’t get this, at all. This is some super-villian-level shit, and he barely gets called out on it. Has he cast some sort of spell over all of America that only few of us are immune to?

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 11:09:36pm

re: #215 JamesWI

Ignoring everything else I know and loathe about Scott Walker, I just can’t believe that someone can go on national television and say they wouldn’t allow abortion in cases where the pregnancy would kill the woman, and somehow still be considered one of the front-runner.

I mean……that’s just completely insane! Kelly even pointed out that something like 83 or 86% of Americans support the option of abortion in those cases (because….duh?), and he still tried to claim that his insane position was in line with the majority of Americans. He actually thinks it’s “pro-life” to say that both the “baby” and mother should die, rather than saving the woman easily by removing a little clump of cells. And this man could be President.

Seriously….I just don’t get this, at all. This is some super-villian-level shit, and he barely gets called out on it. Has he cast some sort of spell over all of America that only few of us are immune to?

QFT

Thanks JamesWI. Stuff like this needs to get out there.

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William Lewis Aug 6, 2015 • 11:18:23pm

re: #162 freetoken

I’m coming around more and more to the idea that we’d be better off with a more parliamentary system.

That would simply trade a bad situation for a nightmare level one. We would beat Italys record for number of governments In a decade. The only thing worse would be a unicameral legislature in a parliament with no reason for people to compromise or create coalitions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 6, 2015 • 11:22:45pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

I’ve read somewhere that the Senate is the least-democratic legislative body out there. Too true.

Bill Maher (he’s a broken clock around here, but bear with me) had an idea that he espoused on his show a while back. OK, folks don’t want to get rid of the Senate because CONSTITION or tradition or whatever. Then make the Senate proportional. Three seats for California, New York, Florida, Texas; Two seats for Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Illinois; One seat for Wyoming, Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas.

I think it should be more proportional than that. Give each Senator from 1 to…52 (?) votes depending on how many Congressmen its state has. I can see the value of having a body elected by a statewide vote instead of the small parochial area of a Congressional district, but we have to get rid of this system where 40 Senators representing 10% of the population have complete veto power.

The main thing, though, is either (preferably) to go to a simple Popular Vote for President, or at least take away those two unearned Electoral Votes each state gets just for having two Senators.

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William Lewis Aug 6, 2015 • 11:27:01pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

I am going to guess, based on your comments tonight, that you have never read the federalist papers? In them, the reasons behind the details and decisions of the Constitution are described. You might want to read them so that you can be reminded why we have what we do before throwing it out for something that will offer far fewer protections to the citizens of the US.

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dholmes32 Aug 6, 2015 • 11:27:58pm

re: #189 Nyet

Anybody else keeping an eye on the Ophelia Benson brouhaha?

Still don’t know what that’s about but thought at first it was about “Olivia Benson” who is (a) a fictional character on Law and Order or (b) the cat of the same name, ~~owned by~~ carried around by Taylor Swift.

Then I realized this was “Ophelia Benson” who blogs over at Freethought Blogs and figured out it wasn’t about LnO or cats. It’s too complicated for past 11 pm at night.

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 11:39:24pm

re: #219 William Lewis

Whatever, dude. Not tonight.

Truth be told, I have read some, not all of The Federalist Papers. But if you’re going to accuse me of ignorance or vanity around these parts, that’s fucking bullshit.

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Timothy Watson Aug 6, 2015 • 11:39:54pm

re: #220 dholmes32

Yeah, my first reaction was, “isn’t that Mariska Hargitay’s character on Law & Order: SVU?”

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 11:40:05pm

re: #220 dholmes32

“It’s complicated” is right.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 6, 2015 • 11:45:03pm

heheheheh

checking freeperville, the end result of fox trying to kill trump tonite seems to be the decisive alienation of outer wingnuttia from fox news

very curious indeed

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 11:46:59pm

re: #224 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Couple of juicy quotes?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 6, 2015 • 11:48:20pm

All Hail The Glorious Republican Civil War!!

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teleskiguy Aug 6, 2015 • 11:49:34pm

re: #224 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trump is a force to be reckoned with in the Republican Party. He’s their Frankenstein, and now they don’t know what to do or how to control him. The sandbagging effort by Fox News tonight was pretty awesome. Very first question attacked Trump, and every question they asked Trump (which attacked his character), Trump did not hesitate and was able to insult the candidates and the moderators with every utterance. GOP voters love blowhards. So…

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Nyet Aug 6, 2015 • 11:50:15pm

re: #227 teleskiguy

“guts”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 6, 2015 • 11:52:51pm

re: #225 Nyet

Couple of juicy quotes?

I was wondering why commie soetoro told useful idiots to watch the repub debate, now I know why. Soetoro was tipped off that foxholes were going hard to take out Trump and hard question a few of the others. Plain as day.

I never liked Megyn Kelly. I always thought she was overrated. But tonight was a disgrace. She is taking a beating on twitter and her facebook page. Well deserved.

Agreed all out attack on Trump. Foxnews should be ashamed.

Debates are when everyone gets to answer the same question and attempt to persuade the audience of their position.

This was a gotcha attempt by the pseudo biased Faux News … I do believe I may join liberals in calling it that from now on.

The media tried to destroy Trump in the debate
And the media will keep trying to destroy Trump

Why don’t people see that every reporter ,every journalist , every media person IS a marxist political activist posing as a journalist. The media will try to destroy any politician that is a threat to socialism.

Socialism/marxism is their religion

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teleskiguy Aug 7, 2015 • 12:00:23am

Extremely active cyclone season in the Pacific.

Taiwan braces for arrival of powerful Typhoon Soudelor http://t.co/vIsBngsNp7 pic.twitter.com/99Hr82nm4Z

— AJE News (@AJENews) August 7, 2015

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piratedan Aug 7, 2015 • 12:06:46am

what is strange is that from everything I heard, Kasich was the only “compassionate” conservative there with a relatively mature take on “teh ghey” whereas everyone else was pretty much dealing with the nuance of conservative fantasyland mythos. Trump is speaking to the unrestrained GOP ID (that faux News has been busy cultivating for the last 25 years) but essentially they are all saying the same things….

women who aren’t married, are sluts and/or potential sluts who shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy sex or use sex as power

poor people suck and we need them to stay poor
education is for your betters
we need to bomb people who don’t share our religion or skin pigmentation
we all hate everything Obama did unless/until we can take credit for it
stop taxing rich people and corporations because they are our collective sugar daddies

not an ounce of policy or smidgeon of concern about income inequality, climate change, gun control, infrastructure spending or even attempting to make any social program better.

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Teukka Aug 7, 2015 • 12:09:06am

re: #229 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

WAT?

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William Lewis Aug 7, 2015 • 12:09:40am

re: #221 teleskiguy

Whatever, dude. Not tonight.

Truth be told, I have read some, not all of The Federalist Papers. But if you’re going to accuse me of ignorance or vanity around these parts, that’s fucking bullshit.

No, that’s not the point. If you want to argue in favor of something that was considered and rejected by those who created a system - in this case a legislature with both house being proportional - it’s useful to talk about what and why you think circumstances have changed. I am not of the opinion that having proportional representation in the Senate would do anything but give corporations even more votes to control us. The writers of the Constitution felt having a group immune to fast changes in opinion was a good idea and we have, in 200 or so years only thought that voting for them was the only change needed.

So let’s find a framework for discussion. The Papers provides one so I suggested them. Perhaps you’d like to suggest another?

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teleskiguy Aug 7, 2015 • 12:12:57am

re: #231 piratedan

I tweeted part of your comment.

The ultimate breakdown of the GOP “debate” that happened in Cleveland, OH tonight. as interpreted by 'piratedan'. pic.twitter.com/b2WfFiNRBW

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 7, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 7, 2015 • 12:17:20am

A card-carrying Socialist defending the institution of the U.S. Senate! Fucking aye! Hey, wlewisiii, point me in the right direction. Which Federalist Papers should I read?

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piratedan Aug 7, 2015 • 12:18:14am

re: #234 teleskiguy

ty for thinking it was tweet-worthy.

just not seeing anything there that would make me think that the GOP should be taken seriously and if everyone in the media would stop giving us the aromatic nuances of these position turds, we’d all be a lot better off.

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teleskiguy Aug 7, 2015 • 12:25:08am

I’m guilty of this LGF sin from time to time - looking for a fight. I’ve learned over the years that it’s not worth it. We’re all in this together! I thought.

This happened last night with me on Facebook, I was talking to a dude about Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Dude said I was a shill for “banksters” for supporting Hillary. I put forth facts, evidence, Citizens United, and I was dismissed as some sort of paid shill, a plant, a conduit for the New World Order.

Gus has been watching the far-left on Twitter pretty close, and I don’t like his observations. Bunch of utopia-thinking fools.

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teleskiguy Aug 7, 2015 • 12:30:52am

Youtube Video

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Dr Lizardo Aug 7, 2015 • 12:51:56am

So…..I’m seeing a new original Netflix series on the horizon - Narcos.

And judging from this trailer, it looks damned good.

…

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HAL2010 Aug 7, 2015 • 1:52:27am

Good morning!

Missed the debate, it was in the middle fo the night in Sweden. Read a bit, Rubio seems to have done relatively well. Perhaps a low bar?

Trump will trump. Good luck to them.

Anyway. How are things over the pond?

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goddamnedfrank Aug 7, 2015 • 2:52:47am

Trump lashing out.

.@FrankLuntz, your so-called “focus groups” are a total joke. Don't come to my office looking for business again. You are a clown!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 7, 2015

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 7, 2015 • 2:58:27am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

Trump lashing out.

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Well, stopped clock, etc.

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 3:21:14am

Morning Lizards. So Faux News tried to take the Donald down? Funny, I thought they liked the guy.

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 3:40:07am

Seems like Chuck Schumer’s tongue is firmly embedded in Bibi’s ass.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 7, 2015 • 3:47:42am

How far has the GOP devolved?

Dan Quayle was a national laughingstock 25 years ago, but he would be a damn sight better candidate than any of these buffoons. He is still around, of course, and not yet too old (69 by election day).

For that matter, Bob Dole is still with us. True, he’ll be 93 by election day but he is still smarter (and funnier) than all 17 of the current GOP clowns put together.

Alas, both are designated RINOs (Dole especially), so no chance of a blast from the past.

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KiTA Aug 7, 2015 • 3:50:47am

So I missed it — I take it it was an unmitigated disaster?

Did Trump really try and bully the moderator?

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 4:01:51am

re: #246 KiTA

So I missed it — I take it it was an unmitigated disaster?

Did Trump really try and bully the moderator?

Apparently he didn’t like Megyn Kelly’s question about his misogynistic comments about women.

GOP debate: Donald Trump attacks Megyn Kelly for question about his history of sexist comments

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A Mom Anon Aug 7, 2015 • 4:06:29am

The idea that government is to be run like a business is going to be our downfall if it continues to be considered true. No. Just No. Government is not supposed to turn a profit. It’s there to provide for the health and well being of the nation via laws that protect citizens, investment in the people via jobs, infrastructure, education, and so on. I may be wrong but it seems that this stupidity also coincides with the advent of the Prosperity Gospel wing of evangelical Christianity. Money measures everything. Not Good. Not good at all.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 7, 2015 • 4:09:23am

Bob Dole is someone you can really like and respect even as you disagree with many of his policy positions.
Dole served in the 10th Mountain Division in Italy during World War II. He was badly wounded during the closing weeks of the war, losing the use of his right arm. A year later, he had still not recovered and was suffering from a life-threatening infection. He then volunteered to become patient number 3 in the first clinical trials of the promising but troublesome new antibiotic streptomycin. The first patient had died. The second survived but became blind because of side effects. Dole nevertheless accepted the re-worked treatment regimen and made a complete recovery, making him a hero of science among his many other achievements.

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KiTA Aug 7, 2015 • 4:16:52am

I just discovered I’m on the official blocklist of ISIS. I can no longer load up ISIS member’s twitter pages. Not that I would want to, but still…

Weird day.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 4:32:10am

My co-workers are stumbling in hungover.

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 4:38:18am

These people hate the social contract that has been the mortar holding the country together as long as I have been alive. Why is this a bad thing?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 4:44:59am

Does any one know what percentage of voters watched the “debates” last night?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 4:46:21am

I caught the tail end in which Megyn Kelly had to rush to another studio to do her own show.

I wanted to ask if she’d carry a basket of laundry on her way.

Faux always tries to make viewers feel like they are part of the family. I hate that.

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Jayleia Aug 7, 2015 • 4:47:10am

re: #253 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Dunno, but 100% of those that did are hungover today.

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 4:47:30am

re: #253 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Does any one know what percentage of voters watched the “debates” last night?

That would be good to know, especially the subset of those who tuned out after 1 hour.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 4:48:07am

Donald Trump’s Plan for Your Taxes Might Be EXACTLY What He Needs to Win the White House

It’s not 9-9-9.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 4:52:16am

My co-worker just told me she likes Ben Carson’s “tithing” tax plan. “It’s so simple!” I just rolled my eyes.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 4:54:27am

Everybody at work hates Carly, because they all remember the outsourcing tech bloodbaths of the early 00’s that she committed.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:01:21am

The TL of these two dolts is priceless:

Watching conservatives lose their shit over Fox “News” is priceless. #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/c9thKOmdhW

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:03:50am

Another group of men taking pride in telling women they should have no choice in what happens to their bodies. #GOPDebate

— My Daughter's Army (@mydaughtersarmy) August 7, 2015

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Lidane Aug 7, 2015 • 5:06:29am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

Trump lashing out.

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Take a look at Megyn Kelly’s Facebook page. Trump supporters are blowing up her most recent posts with argle bargle about how she was a catty, unprofessional bitch and a biased liberal democrat sellout who belongs on MSNBC for going after Trump. Lots of people swearing they won’t watch her or Fox again.

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:08:31am

So I guess in that shitty graphic which selectively juxtaposes conservative and liberal women Kelly should be on the liberal side now. //

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:08:40am

Can I burn down your house? No Just the 2nd floor? No Garage? No Let's talk about what I can burn down. No YOU AREN'T COMPROMISING!

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 2, 2013

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:10:19am

In case you were wondering where all 10 candidates stand on funding PP. #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/xRmh0C3YJc

— Planned Parenthood (@PPact) August 7, 2015

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:11:20am

re: #265 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

They’re all shameless pieces of shit.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:12:25am

Carly, you're right. You're not a celebrity. You're just a failed CEO who was asked to leave HP FOR $45M. Great resume #morningjoe

— Valerie Pressley (@ValeriePressley) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:13:20am

re: #266 Nyet

They’re all shameless pieces of shit.

If Planned Parenthood were started by a man it would be no problem. It was started by a Woman and a “radical” for her time.

It must be bad

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:14:03am

Backlash to NRA-Backed Mental Health Bill Reveals Fissures in the Gun Rights Movement http://t.co/Q22Sv1FOgK

— The Trace (@teamtrace) August 6, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:15:19am

The comments are worth the read! Conservatives are furious at Fox “news”:

Trump: Megyn Kelly ‘behaved very badly’

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Joe Bacon Aug 7, 2015 • 5:18:04am

Carly Fiorina believes in a golden society where she got a golden parachute while giving HP employees an endless golden shower.

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Joe Bacon Aug 7, 2015 • 5:19:50am

re: #259 The Vicious Babushka

Everybody at work hates Carly, because they all remember the outsourcing tech bloodbaths of the early 00’s that she committed.

Yes and I was one of those working “on spec” for HP who got shafted by Carly…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:20:35am

Fox's Elisabeth Hasselbeck Says Sandra Bland's Lit Cigarette Could Have Been A Weapon. http://t.co/OznYmgkF4Q #BlackLivesMatter #SandraBland

— Tomthunkit(TM) (@TomthunkitsMind) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:22:07am

re: #271 Joe Bacon

Carly Fiorina believes in a golden society where she got a golden parachute while giving HP employees an endless golden shower.

She’s a fucking liar too. She just claimed California has the highest poverty rate in the country because of liberal policies.

40 Tennessee 15.0%
41 South Carolina 15.0%
42 Arizona 15.2%
43 West Virginia 15.4%
44 Oklahoma 15.6%
45 Arkansas 15.9%
46 Texas 16.2%
47 Alabama 16.7%
48 New Mexico 17.9%
49 Louisiana 18.3%
50 Mississippi 20.1%

Someone remind me, what do the 10 states with the highest poverty rate have in common?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:22:25am

Mike Huckabee: As President I Would Grant Constitutional Rights To Fetuses http://t.co/oSWrnn2SPo

— Comella Donaldson (@starfirst) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:24:17am

What a fantastic night for USA, democracy, freedom and incidentally Fox News. Congratulations to all.

— Rupert Murdoch (@rupertmurdoch) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:28:14am

Chris Matthews owns #fratboy Scarborough; Joe tinkles his panties. http://t.co/VaT12it2p2

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 7, 2015

…

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 5:31:24am

re: #16 freetoken

So, what does Trump have against Japan?

He hasn’t managed to offshore his clothes manufacturing there?

He hasn’t convinced lenders there that he’s a good business risk?

He’s just pissed that they’ve called him out for his xenophobia?

/thanks, I’ll be here all AM. Nursing a derpover.

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A Mom Anon Aug 7, 2015 • 5:33:56am

re: #275 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

You probably know more about this than I do, but the word “fetus” in the abortion debate bugs the hell out of me. Aren’t most abortions performed at the embryonic stage of development, before 12 weeks? The whole referral to “the fetus” all the time is a subtle (or not) attempt to get people to picture a fully formed baby being ripped to pieces when that isn’t the case. We have to stop with that terminology as much as we can unless it applies. I know it seems like a small thing, but with the whole PP video mess, it’s been driven home, to me at least, how this one thing makes the whole late term abortions being done in clinics thing seem more real to people who don’t understand basic biology.

I wonder if there are actual numbers on the number of abortions done in a year in the US broken down into when they occurred in the pregnancy. Once you get past a certain number of weeks (14? I can’t remember), the procedure can’t be done in a clinic setting anyway. Which makes what these right to life asshats are doing even more deceptive, if that’s possible.

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:35:36am

I remember the times when Matthews fawned over Bush’s codpiece and was MediaMatters’ Misinformer of the Year. Heh.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:38:16am

re: #280 Nyet

I remember the times when Matthews fawned over Bush’s codpiece and was MediaMatters’ Misinformer of the Year. Heh.

Not once, but twice had Coulter on his show for the entire hour. He once called her a brilliant author. He also claimed that dubyah deserves to be on Mount Rushmore if Iraq turns out to be a success.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:39:20am

re: #279 A Mom Anon

You probably know more about this than I do, but the word “fetus” in the abortion debate bugs the hell out of me. Aren’t most abortions performed at the embryonic stage of development, before 12 weeks? The whole referral to “the fetus” all the time is a subtle (or not) attempt to get people to picture a fully formed baby being ripped to pieces when that isn’t the case. We have to stop with that terminology as much as we can unless it applies. I know it seems like a small thing, but with the whole PP video mess, it’s been driven home, to me at least, how this one thing makes the whole late term abortions being done in clinics thing seem more real to people who don’t understand basic biology.

I wonder if there are actual numbers on the number of abortions done in a year in the US broken down into when they occurred in the pregnancy. Once you get past a certain number of weeks (14? I can’t remember), the procedure can’t be done in a clinic setting anyway. Which makes what these right to life asshats are doing even more deceptive, if that’s possible.

You are correct. We should change the wording to embryo, it is accurate.

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 5:40:16am

re: #262 Lidane

Take a look at Megyn Kelly’s Facebook page. Trump supporters are blowing up her most recent posts with argle bargle about how she was a catty, unprofessional bitch and a biased liberal democrat sellout who belongs on MSNBC for going after Trump. Lots of people swearing they won’t watch her or Fox again.

Before long they can go to MSNBC

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:41:03am

Guttmacher fact sheet on Abortions in the US.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:42:04am

• About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children. [3]
• Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

• Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100-199% of the federal poverty level. * [3]

• The reasons women give for having an abortion underscore their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.[6]

• Fifty-one percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method in the month they got pregnant, most commonly condoms (27%) or a hormonal method (17%).[7]

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 5:42:44am

There goes Frothy again calling a fertilized egg a BABBY….. Die on that hill asshole. You will never be President. Never.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:43:36am

• Forty-six percent of abortion providers offer very early abortions (before the first missed period) and 95% offer abortion at eight weeks from the last menstrual period. Sixty-one percent offer at least some second-trimester abortion services (13 weeks or later), and 34% offer abortion at 20 weeks. Only 16% of all abortion providers offer abortions at 24 weeks.[8]

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 5:44:05am

It will be hysterical watching all the poll movement in the next round of national polls released, which should be early next week. We’ll get much fawning over how X or Y jumped in the polls because of their performance, ignoring that far too many of the candidates, especially in the happy hour event, are polling within the margin of error, which is usually 3-4%. In other words, it could be a statistical fluke that they have any support at all.

At the same time, all it takes in some of these polls for one or two people polled to change their support to cause a major variation because of the number of candidates involved and that support is generally so thin once you get past Trump. That separation is going to be key going into the fall, though the real test remains just what kind of ground game anyone has - polling this far out is more of a popularity contest than anything. Once the caucus and primaries begin, that’s when the votes matter and support is gauged.

As so many others have noted, there’s very little separating the candidates from each other on the big issues - defunding PP, repealing ACA, stopping illegal immigration, no jar jar, just war, etc.

And each has to come up with more outrageous things to say just to distinguish themselves from everyone else.

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:44:37am

re: #286 Dave In Austin

There goes Frothy again calling a fertilized egg a BABBY….. Die on that hill asshole. You will never be President. Never.

how is babby formed?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:44:38am

Embryo or Fetus at 6 weeks? pic.twitter.com/ZDv3kBPq6O

— ggt (@geegeetee) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:44:54am

re: #289 Nyet

how is babby made?

First a Mommy and a Daddy get married … .

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:46:31am

re: #291 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s even simpler!

…

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 5:47:09am

re: #289 Nyet

how is babby made?

For Frothy, it’s fapping off with a cabbage leaf.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 5:47:14am

This is awful. http://t.co/4FSiBrXIv1

— Michael Coleman (@michaelcoleman) August 7, 2015

A French man and woman who died hiking in southern New Mexico’s White Sands National Monument - leaving behind a surviving 9-year-old boy - apparently headed into the dunes without water and quickly succumbed to the extreme heat.

[…]

The White Sands website has safety information posted in English and six other languages, including French. Sauter said printed materials in French are also available at the monument’s visitor center.

“The environment here can be extreme,” she said. “For folks who can be unaware, it’s very different. It’s like no other place. It’s super bright. It’s super hot. With the white reflecting, and no shade and no trees, it can be quite extreme.”

[…]

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 5:47:29am

re: #288 lawhawk

We know Trump is going to take a dive in the 10th. Not sure who put in the fix.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:47:53am

How many men really know what happens during a women’a annual PAP and Pelvic Exam.

How do you think they would react to having their parts racheted open and someone else’s hand poking around?

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:50:03am

The use of the term “fetus” generally implies that an embryo has developed to the point of being recognizable as a human; this is the point usually taken to be the ninth week after fertilization. A fetus is also characterized by the presence of all the major body organs, though they will not yet be fully developed and functional and some not yet situated in their final anatomical location.

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 5:50:42am

re: #296 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

How many men really know what happens during a women’a annual PAP and Pelvic Exam.

How do you think they would react to having their parts racheted open and someone else’s hand poking around?

If Viagra or Cialis required an invasive exam every time it were prescribed, sales would plummet.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 5:51:06am

re: #285 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

The reasons women give for having an abortion underscore their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life.

I do believe a woman should have a good reason to get an abortion. Such as 'I don't want to be pregnant'

— MrOzAtheist (@MrOzAtheist) August 5, 2015

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A Mom Anon Aug 7, 2015 • 5:51:07am

re: #287 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

All this backs up what I thought was true. Thanks for sharing that. I bet if you asked OB/GYNs all over the country how many late term abortions they’ve performed you’d have to really dig around to find those that had, and the stories they would tell about why that had to happen would be not only heartbreaking but seriously medically necessary. No doctor would just do a late term abortion because, reasons. These Operation Rescue/Army of God assholes and all their wannabes make it sound just like this PP video crap, that perfectly viable later term fetuses are being taken out of their mothers between Mom’s haircut and mani/pedi appointments. Most of the tissue wouldn’t look much different than a heavy menstrual period unless you knew what to look for.

I am just pissed we’re still having this conversation in 2015. FFS.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:52:29am

re: #300 A Mom Anon

All this backs up what I thought was true. Thanks for sharing that. I bet if you asked OB/GYNs all over the country how many late term abortions they’ve performed you’d have to really dig around to find those that had, and the stories they would tell about why that had to happen would be not only heartbreaking but seriously medically necessary. No doctor would just do a late term abortion because, reasons. These Operation Rescue/Army of God assholes and all their wannabes make it sound just like this PP video crap, that perfectly viable later term fetuses are being taken out of their mothers between Mom’s haircut and mani/pedi appointments. Most of the tissue wouldn’t look much different than a heavy menstrual period unless you knew what to look for.

I am just pissed we’re still having this conversation in 2015. FFS.

I’ve known women who miscarried and didn’t know it until years later when (for some reason it came up in conversation with a doctor).

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 5:52:43am

re: #194 freetoken

Donald Trump Captures the Hearts of Young Republicans

So be it.

Long may he rage.

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 5:53:11am

Only in GOP extremist land is 215k jobs added a downer. Oh, I mean Fox “News”. https://t.co/rLwyKHMqeQ

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 7, 2015

65 consecutive months of job growth, and Fox indicates yet another month of jobs added as being down.

Where’d they get that from? The July number is down from June by a few thousand. Therefore that’s a bad thing. Or something.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:53:35am

Bernie hits the nail right on the head! pic.twitter.com/Q6g3uYTt1j

— Diane Howell (@DianeHowell11) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 5:54:18am

I hate, hate, hate horror flicks, but this trailer is truly intriguing.

The Scariest Movie of All Time Is Actually Just This Trailer for a Scary Movie

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:54:48am

Donald Trump: Megyn Kelly Is A Bimbo For Asking Me About My Misogynistic Comments http://t.co/PsEZgVLdfr #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/066D74C2zw

— Jade Helm Commander (@Anomaly100) August 7, 2015

using the word “bimbo” disqualifies one from office.

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A Mom Anon Aug 7, 2015 • 5:55:04am

Alrighty lizards. It’s off to walk Miss Dog and do stuff of some merit today. Be Excellent to One Another. BBL.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 5:55:19am

re: #300 A Mom Anon

Most of the tissue wouldn’t look much different than a heavy menstrual period unless you knew what to look for.

With a microscope. Even then, in many menstrual periods there is a fertilized egg hidden in the used feminine hygiene products. Send them to Scott Walker!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 5:55:37am

re: #303 lawhawk

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65 consecutive months of job growth, and Fox indicates yet another month of jobs added as being down.

Where’d they get that from? The July number is down from June by a few thousand. Therefore that’s a bad thing. Or something.

the numbers are wrong, Obama made them lie

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 5:56:26am

Speaking of scary movies, I liked Creep, due to the actor work of the guy playing the villain.

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 5:56:56am

re: #288 lawhawk

It will be interesting to see if Fox can push Trump down in the polls. Right now, that seems to be what they’re trying to do. I’m hoping their efforts backfire.

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 5:58:41am

re: #311 darthstar

It will be interesting to see if Fox can push Trump down in the polls. Right now, that seems to be what they’re trying to do. I’m hoping their efforts backfire.

Billery Plant!!!
//

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:02:12am

Trump doesn’t have time for Political Correctness —yeah, that isn’t going to work in the Oval Office.

What Donald Trump said about Rosie O'Donnell at the #GOPDebate is seriously NOT OK: http://t.co/w7FgJse46Z pic.twitter.com/KxUdg8a3u6

— Cosmopolitan (@Cosmopolitan) August 7, 2015

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sagehen Aug 7, 2015 • 6:03:08am

re: #252 Dave In Austin

These people hate the social contract that has been the mortar holding the country together as long as I have been alive. Why is this a bad thing?

They (and their ideological predecessors) loved that social contract when white christian men were the only people getting the goodies. Black and Hispanic and Jewish men were just as drafted in all the wars, all of them (and women) paid the same income tax and sales tax and every other tax as anybody else, but until the 1960’s white christian men were the only people receiving subsidized FHA housing, Social Security, SBA loans, NIH grants, VA benefits, etc etc etc.

Ever since the Civil Rights Act non-whites have had the same rights to the same stuff; ever since Title IX and Title X women did too…

And that’s why conservatives (especially southern white christian conservatives) now don’t want the government giving anything to anybody. Because some of it goes to Those People, and they’d rather do without it themselves if that’s what it takes to keep Those People from getting any of it.

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 6:04:17am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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using the word “bimbo” disqualifies one from office.

IOKIYAAR

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 6:04:54am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump doesn’t have time fpr Political Correctness —yeah, that isn’t going to work in the Oval Office.

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Conservatives rant about “political correctness” but they whine the longest and loudest when someone insults their whiddle feelings.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:05:22am

Debates are the circus part of “bread and circuses”

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Great White Snark Aug 7, 2015 • 6:08:08am

re: #304 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

re: #317 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Debates are the circus part of “bread and circuses”

After a quick review of the headlines & news this morning it’s confirmed. The net national intelligence took a significant dip last night. Might it come back? Not for at least 50 weeks.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:10:22am

I recommend we stop using the term “contributions” to describe the campaign spending of oligarchs and start using the term they themselves often use: “investments”. The very rich invest to change the rules in their favor. And they expect, and often receive, a remarkably high return on their investment.

You can invest in Planned Parenthood here.

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#FergusonFireside Aug 7, 2015 • 6:12:55am

On flight to Portland. As always figuring if WiFi worth it.

Ya’ll chatting it up?

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Great White Snark Aug 7, 2015 • 6:14:31am

Anyone disagree with the idea Schumer vote against the agreement is a significant blow, not for the weight of his vote but for the public opinion weight of being a very senior Dem?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 6:16:29am

re: #279 A Mom Anon

You probably know more about this than I do, but the word “fetus” in the abortion debate bugs the hell out of me. Aren’t most abortions performed at the embryonic stage of development, before 12 weeks? The whole referral to “the fetus” all the time is a subtle (or not) attempt to get people to picture a fully formed baby being ripped to pieces when that isn’t the case. We have to stop with that terminology as much as we can unless it applies. I know it seems like a small thing, but with the whole PP video mess, it’s been driven home, to me at least, how this one thing makes the whole late term abortions being done in clinics thing seem more real to people who don’t understand basic biology.

I wonder if there are actual numbers on the number of abortions done in a year in the US broken down into when they occurred in the pregnancy. Once you get past a certain number of weeks (14? I can’t remember), the procedure can’t be done in a clinic setting anyway. Which makes what these right to life asshats are doing even more deceptive, if that’s possible.

The CMP videos are aimed at getting people to believe that full-term infants are delivered and then murdered. It’s a straight-up blood libel.

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 6:16:39am

re: #321 Great White Snark

Anyone disagree with the idea Schumer vote against the agreement is a significant blow, not for the weight of his vote but for the public opinion weight of being a very senior Dem?

He certainly shouldn’t be a senior D any longer (and by that I mean he should not be in the leadership).

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 6:16:59am

re: #320 #FergusonFireside

On flight to Portland. As always figuring if WiFi worth it.

Ya’ll chatting it up?

Any flight over 3 hrs? Yes.

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 6:17:33am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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using the word “bimbo” disqualifies one from office.

.@megynkelly & the @realDonaldTrump shows why he isn't fit 2 B POTUS. Can't control his misogynistic outbursts & disdain 4 women.
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) August 7, 2015

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 6:18:13am

Niloy Neel was attacked at his home in the city’s Goran area.
He is the fourth secularist blogger to have been killed this year by suspected Islamist militants in Bangladesh.

bbc.com

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#FergusonFireside Aug 7, 2015 • 6:19:21am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

Any flight over 3 hrs? Yes.

2.5 ha. I have a paper daily fail my friends brought back from london. Prob enough bs in there to keep me occupied.

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 6:19:30am

re: #318 Great White Snark

After a quick review of the headlines & news this morning it’s confirmed. The net national intelligence took a significant dip last night. Might it come back? Not for at least 50 weeks.

The best thing about headlines is that they’re all most people actually read.
LA Times: Republican Party divisions nearly upstage Donald Trump in first 2016 debate

NY Times: Trump Steals the Show, Mixing Politics and Pizazz

Yeah, Fox scored some hits on Trump last night, but we don’t see “Bush Shines in Debate” or “Rubio Makes His Mark” or “Christie: He’s Back”…except at nj.com where they say he ‘escaped Trump’s shadow’…

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 6:19:33am

Goes without saying….

#DonaldTrump supporters are just a more deluded version of #RandPaul supporters. #GOPDebate #tcot #caring #pjnet

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:19:52am

What?

RT @wcgirl1: Chris #Christie Suggests Teachers Should Be 'Punched in the Face'—Teacher Takes Him Up On It http://t.co/9oB6pUxwbu

— FriendofTrees (@JamiaStarheart) August 7, 2015

Who is a thug?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:20:38am

re: #328 darthstar

The best thing about headlines is that they’re all most people actually read.
LA Times: Republican Party divisions nearly upstage Donald Trump in first 2016 debate

NY Times: Trump Steals the Show, Mixing Politics and Pizazz

Yeah, Fox scored some hits on Trump last night, but we don’t see “Bush Shines in Debate” or “Rubio Makes His Mark” or “Christie: He’s Back”…except at nj.com where they say he ‘escaped Trump’s shadow’…

exactly, it was a show.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 6:21:31am

Megyn just blew all the good feels Liberals were having toward her for her takedown of Trump

.@marcorubio: I think future generations will look back at this history of our country & call us barbarians for murdering millions of babies

— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) August 7, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:21:58am

U.S. Economy Added 215,000 Jobs in July; Unemployment Still 5.3%

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Great White Snark Aug 7, 2015 • 6:22:14am

I have a plea for all my slightly to far right leaning friends, co workers or neighbors-I beg you to fact check your top 3 factual take aways or points from the debate. Pick any two or 3 and see if they hold up. Take a deep breath and think it through. Twitter can’t make this point. Maybe FB.

Point one for motivation-“Iran everything they wanted, we got nothing”

This is now in my FB timeline with a link to LGF. Fingers crossed.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:24:01am

Cleveland Cop Pulls Gun on Two Unarmed Black Women… at a Car Accident Scene - http://t.co/huI2nVZPyA @MADDOW #CLEVELAND OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!

— Jazzmine D. McKnight (@Progress4Ohio) August 7, 2015

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Romantic Heretic Aug 7, 2015 • 6:27:51am

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

Second vote for the Magic Mouse. It gobbles up AA batteries though, well worth investing in some rechargeables.

Agreed. Tried it with regular batteries when I first got it but realized quickly I couldn’t afford it.

Rechargeable are the only way with the magic mouse.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:28:07am

Morning Roundup reminds you that there is no bathroom humor on Vulcan: http://t.co/qpMAztbQvx pic.twitter.com/1oE5F8Ly3r

— tor.com (@tordotcom) August 7, 2015

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Lidane Aug 7, 2015 • 6:28:15am

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

Megyn just blew all the good feels Liberals were having toward her for her takedown of Trump

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To be fair she’s retweeting something Rubio said. Still, it won’t be long before she says something to prove that she’s just a Fox hack.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:28:56am

Can't we just let sleeping cats lie? pic.twitter.com/cpHxlOrj6E

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) August 7, 2015

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Romantic Heretic Aug 7, 2015 • 6:28:59am

re: #154 freetoken

Every month a “debate”.

Aren’t we fortunate?

Stop! Stop! I’ll talk!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:30:39am

it's going to be an interesting fall. everyone rest up. https://t.co/rfcW9eN4Np

— julie rovner (@jrovner) August 6, 2015

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Romantic Heretic Aug 7, 2015 • 6:32:11am

re: #176 LastYearsMan

Any system will work if the people involved are wise and careful. The problem is the large majority of humanity is neither.

It’s a poor workman who blames his tools.

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Great White Snark Aug 7, 2015 • 6:35:18am

$750,000 jewelry heist here last night. Strong arm robbery, minor injuries. This business is so damn difficult already one wonders why anyone stays in sometimes. It’s not nearly as lucrative as it was or most folks think.

EDIT! “Here” being Los Angeles

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 6:36:17am

re: #343 Great White Snark

$750,000 jewelry heist here last night. Strong arm robbery, minor injuries. This business is so damn difficult already one wonders why anyone stays in sometimes. It’s not nearly as lucrative as it was or most folks think.

Wow.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 7, 2015 • 6:39:12am

re: #188 freetoken

Well, as the last decade here in Canada as demonstrated a parliamentary system can be unbalanced as well.

Our Dear Leader has never gotten a majority of the voters but he’s been in power for a decade now, and although we’re voting in a few weeks it’s not a given that he’ll lose this time.

So basically we’ve had Richard Nixon, with fewer restraints, ruling Canada for a decade now. I use the Richard Nixon analogy because one of my local papers had an article comparing Our Dear Leader to Nixon.

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 6:40:40am

Fox’s facebook page: Who won the debate?

facebook.com

Enjoy the comments.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 6:41:43am

re: #343 Great White Snark

$750,000 jewelry heist here last night. Strong arm robbery, minor injuries. This business is so damn difficult already one wonders why anyone stays in sometimes. It’s not nearly as lucrative as it was or most folks think.

ObamaEconomy

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 6:43:35am

re: #346 darthstar

Fox’s facebook page: Who won the debate?

facebook.com

Enjoy the comments.

The GOP Debate exemplifies what happens after decades of toxic AM hate radio and Fox “news”. Now conservatives are upset because they got what they prefer…..a shouting matching of personal insults and zero substance and fact.

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 6:43:39am

Why is Bernie Sanders speaking at evangelical college Liberty University? http://t.co/YGr7ua5myT

— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 7, 2015

But, Sanders added, he hopes “to see if we can reach consensus regarding the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality in our country, about the collapse of the middle class, about the high level of childhood poverty, about climate change and other issues.”

Good luck with that Bernie. You’ll need it.

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 6:49:50am

Breaking: this wasn't just the highest-rated GOP primary debate, ever. This was off the charts. Here's my story: http://t.co/aK4FTx4BsR

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) August 7, 2015

Numbers off the charts. How many were tuning in hoping to watch a train wreck? How many were just curious?

None of that matters to Fox, which got exactly what they hoped - big numbers. Do they care who’s saying what or whether anything is actual factual? They got the media boost they wished for.

That’s all that mattered to Fox last night.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 6:51:05am

Everything is “off the charts” these days. Maybe they should recalibrate the charts.

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darthstar Aug 7, 2015 • 6:52:41am

Lindsey defends Trump?

Graham: Questions for Trump 'more of an inquisition' than a debate http://t.co/jGhV6bo6sv

— Tom Pauken (@TomPauken) August 7, 2015

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 6:54:57am

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

A person who claims to believe that millions of human persons are being murdered in the state factories of death but does nothing but whine from time to time, and on the whole is content with their life and thinks of themselves as a patriot, seems to be much more evil than an “average German” during the Holocaust, no?

At least this guy was sincere.

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whitebeach Aug 7, 2015 • 6:55:34am

An odd thing on the abortion issue: The same people who screech that a million “babies” are being “murdered” every year and must be allowed to be born went apeshit last year when a twentieth that many actual children showed up as refugees at our borders; the cry was that such a huge “invasion” would destroy our schools, our hospitals, and the nation itself. Logic, how the fuck does it work?

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Belafon Aug 7, 2015 • 6:56:52am

#349 Bubblehead II:

I’m curious to see if he will talk about race there.

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danarchy Aug 7, 2015 • 6:59:57am

re: #330 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

What?

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Who is a thug?

No offense, but holy misleading headline batman!?

He was asked a stupid question by Jake tapper:

“At the national level, who deserves a punch in the face?”

And his answer was the National teachers union. At no point did he suggest actual teachers should be punched in the face. Stupid or not he was clearly not advocating violence against actual teachers. Alternet needs to go read the definition of metaphor(not just alternet obviously, breitbart, raw story, world nut daily etc.)

Click bait polarizing untrue headlines are a fucking epidemic and I need to learn to stop clicking.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 7:01:14am

I used to worry about the solvency of Social Security, but not anymore. Last night, future President Huckabee assured me that patriotic pimps and prostitutes will keep the system afloat.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:01:22am

Fox News just found out that they don’t control the fringe right either. The GOP leadership found that out earlier. Even better: it looks as though Trump is now seen by his supporters as being attacked by the Establishment for speaking the truth. The Pavlovian fringe’s reaction is predictable and the reaction of Trump’s opponents to it will be instructive.

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 7:04:12am

re: #355 Belafon

#349 Bubblehead II:

I’m curious to see if he will talk about race there.

Will have to wait and see. But I seriously doubt anything he has to say will make a difference to that crowd. They’re all about Je$u$.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:04:27am

Why does Carly Fiorina wear those lame nubby knit suits from the 1960’s?

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 7:05:20am

re: #349 Bubblehead II

Good luck with that Bernie. You’ll need it.

Reminds me of Bill Nye debating evolution at Ken Ham’s Creation Museum.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 7:10:44am

re: #350 lawhawk

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Numbers off the charts. How many were tuning in hoping to watch a train wreck? How many were just curious?

None of that matters to Fox, which got exactly what they hoped - big numbers. Do they care who’s saying what or whether anything is actual factual? They got the media boost they wished for.

That’s all that mattered to Fox last night.

I have tuned to Fox exactly 2 times over the last 6 years (the moment Obama was declared the winner in both elections), and I even tuned in to watch the shit show. I doubt I’m in the minority.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 7, 2015 • 7:13:32am

re: #209 teleskiguy

That picture makes me think that Walker is wondering how the person he is looking at would taste served with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:15:02am

LOL RNC probably paid for their tickets==>

Rubio, Fiorina and Jindal all on the same flight from Cleveland to Atlanta. They're all in coach.

— Jeremy W. Peters (@jwpetersNYT) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 7:16:17am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

LOL RNC probably paid for their tickets==>

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To ATL? They don’t have direct flights?! Ouch.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:16:47am

Rand Paul is taking last night’s slapfight with Christie to Teh Twitters

.@ChrisChristie's disregard for the Constitution sets a dangerous precedent & ignores wisdom of our Founding Fathers. http://t.co/U2WCdnkJ1V

— Dr. Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 7, 2015

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 7:16:54am

Bbiab. Time to mow the yard before it gets too warm and the thunderstorms get started.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:18:49am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

I have tuned to Fox exactly 2 times over the last 6 years (the moment Obama was declared the winner in both elections), and I even tuned in to watch the shit show. I doubt I’m in the minority.

This was the first time I watched a politics show since 2008. I don’t think that I ever tuned in Fox News before.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 7:27:10am

re: #360 The Vicious Babushka

Why does Carly Fiorina wear those lame nubby knit suits from the 1960’s?

because Jackie O

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Belafon Aug 7, 2015 • 7:27:39am

#359 Bubblehead II

Agree. I suspect he could turn them into atheists if he would talk about how much God influences his life.

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Timothy Watson Aug 7, 2015 • 7:28:20am

Anyone ever wonder how their coworkers get through the day without drowning on their own spit?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 7, 2015 • 7:28:40am

re: #371 Timothy Watson

Anyone ever wonder how their coworkers get through the day without drowning on their own spit?

u so bad

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:29:44am

re: #369 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

because Jackie O

Even Jackie stopped wearing those.

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 7:33:32am

re: #271 Joe Bacon

Carly Fiorina believes in a golden society where she got a golden parachute while giving HP employees an endless golden shower.

And for some reason she seems to think (believe?) that they enjoyed every drop.

Is there self-awareness in anyone within the GOP?

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 7:39:55am

Wow. I mean really. Just fucking wow.

Cops make disgusting online ‘memorial’ mocking death of Ferguson’s Michael Brown

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:41:46am

re: #374 WhatEVs

And for some reason she seems to think (believe?) that they enjoyed every drop.

Is there self-awareness in anyone within the GOP?

No, because:
“Know thyself?
If I knew myself, I’d run away.”
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 7:42:51am

re: #360 The Vicious Babushka

Why does Carly Fiorina wear those lame nubby knit suits from the 1960’s?

On the weekends she goes casual.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:47:25am

Oh poor poor Donald, he’s so bullied *sadface*

Will @MegynKelly Ever Ask @Rosie O’Donnell to Apologize for Her Foul, Abusive, Ugly Attacks on @RealDonaldTrump ? https://t.co/GemyIe9xN2

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 7, 2015

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 7:47:30am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

using the word “bimbo” disqualifies one from office.

Should disqualify. Should.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:48:29am

re: #360 The Vicious Babushka

Why does Carly Fiorina wear those lame nubby knit suits from the 1960’s?

Because she wants to intimidate JEB?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:50:44am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

Oh poor poor Donald, he’s so bullied *sadface*

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“Beleaguered Billionaire Slimed for Telling It Like It Is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 7:51:21am

OOOH BURN!!!!

Donald Trump is a conservative in the same way Bruce Jenner is a woman and Rachel Dolezal is black. http://t.co/wZO8N4oloo

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 7:59:34am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Trump is a conservative in the same way Bruce Jenner is a woman and Rachel Dolezal is black.

That is so touchingly droll: the people who cheered on every excess of their party’s lunatic fringe now attempt to recover the authority to defrock false conservatives. Is there a condolence card for someone who’s been hoist by his own petard?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 8:01:15am

re: #383 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That is so touchingly droll: the people who cheered on every excess of their party’s lunatic fringe now attempt to recover the authority to defrock false conservatives. Is there a condolence card for someone who’s been hoist by his own petard?

There is a conspiracy theory on Teh #tcot Twitters that Trump is actually a plant by the Clintons. I am not making this up.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 8:04:58am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

OOOH BURN!!!!

I’m glad Sean Davis (who he?) is around to delineate what is fact and what is fiction.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 8:06:10am

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

There is a conspiracy theory on Teh #tcot Twitters that Trump is actually a plant by the Clintons. I am not making this up.

Lamentably, that’s not surprising. Wait ‘til they get a load of the Clinton-Soros-Illuminati Triumvirate that will rule the world from 2017 on.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 8:08:16am

It looks like wingnuts want to make Carly the Sarah Palin of 2016. And anything you say critical of Carly (like she was a massive failure at HP) is HURR HURR TEH WAR ON WIMMENZ!!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 8:08:58am

And sure enough:

remember when liberals said I was sexist for calling Hillary a “bitch”? Here we go… https://t.co/x3SBlwIGIK

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) August 7, 2015

@scrowder pic.twitter.com/0ktyvIcEdz

— Wayne Radcliffe (@wayneradcliffe) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 8:13:48am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

It looks like wingnuts want to make Carly the Sarah Palin of 2016. And anything you say critical of Carly (like she was a massive failure at HP) is HURR HURR TEH WAR ON WIMMENZ!!!!!!

Fuck me because at this point I don’t even think that a predictably disastrous Trump/Fiorina administration would be enough to cure people of voting Republican.

390

Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 8:15:18am

This so cool. Of course the seize all Fed land in Idaho and sell it to the highest bidder crowd aren’t going to be too happy about it.

Idaho wilderness to become law with Obama signature

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama today signs legislation creating three new wilderness areas in Idaho, enveloping nearly 275,665 acres of federal land under what the White House says is the strongest level of protection that can be given to public land.

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Belafon Aug 7, 2015 • 8:15:53am

#384 The Vicious Babushka:

There is a conspiracy theory on Teh #tcot Twitters that Trump is actually a plant by the Clintons. I am not making this up.

Even if he is, no one’s forcing Republicans to like Trump.

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Bird in the Paw Aug 7, 2015 • 8:18:31am

re: #330 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

What?

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Who is a thug?

Comment from Alternet, brilliant: Thing is, Christie is being thoroughly ‘out assholed’ by the wig stand with tourette’s (AKA, Trump) and he KNOWS this. He’s dead meat. Surprised he even made the cut for the debate.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 8:26:42am

Donald Trump is a hybrid of Christie’s assholery, Rubio’s naivete, Cruz’s lack of reality, and Scott Walker’s derpness.

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jamesfirecat Aug 7, 2015 • 8:27:59am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump is a hybrid of Christie’s assholery, Rubio’s naivete, Cruz’s lack of reality, and Scott Walker’s derpness.

BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED I AM CAPTAIN REPUBLICAN!

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andres Aug 7, 2015 • 8:29:07am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump is a hybrid of Christie’s assholery, Rubio’s naivete, Cruz’s lack of reality, and Scott Walker’s derpness.

Add to the mix Carly’s business sense…

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makeitstop Aug 7, 2015 • 8:32:28am

re: #371 Timothy Watson

Anyone ever wonder how their coworkers get through the day without drowning on their own spit?

My wife loves this post. She has that type of coworkers.

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 8:32:52am

Oh man. Convoluted, pretzel logic from two family values, teabagging conservatives.

Tea Party lawmaker tried to smear himself with gay prostitute scandal to cover up his real affair

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iossarian Aug 7, 2015 • 8:38:09am

re: #397 WhatEVs

Oh man. Convoluted, pretzel logic from two family values, teabagging conservatives.

Tea Party lawmaker tried to smear himself with gay prostitute scandal to cover up his real affair

Tea Party Politician Blows Goats In Attempt To Distract Voters From Bear-Reaming Scandal

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 8:49:07am

I’ll go with door #3: incompetent

Watch: the left can't paint @CarlyFiorina as dumb. So they'll go with option #2 - She's evil! They only have two plays.

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) August 7, 2015

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 8:59:57am

OT, but somehow this slipped under my radar:

Doubtful News, August 5 — Joseph Smith’s “seer stone” revealed

The rock that launched a thousand derps and rang a billion doorbells.

The LDS Church provided a new glimpse of its origins Tuesday by publishing the handwritten “printer’s manuscript” of the Book of Mormon and photos of the “seer stone,” a dark, egg-size polished rock founder Joseph Smith claimed to have used to produce the faith’s sacred scripture.

Smith said he was led to a set of buried gold plates, which recorded the history of ancient American civilizations and a visit to this continent by Jesus Christ. The Mormon prophet said he was able to “translate” the “reformed Egyptian” language, using spiritual tools, including his “seer stone.”

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Eventual Carrion Aug 7, 2015 • 9:01:58am

re: #275 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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So I can get a life insurance policy on them at conception? With only 30% of conceptions resulting on a live birth, the insurance companies are going to lose their asses.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 9:02:33am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll go with door #3: incompetent

Option #2 works for me.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 9:03:26am

re: #402 De Kolta Chair

Option #2 works for me.

How about “All of them, Katie!”

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:08:12am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll go with door #3: incompetent

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Now who can argue with that? I think we’re all indebted to Stephen Crowder for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particularly glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic binary logic, it expressed the ease and speed with which conservatives cast down old idols and replace them with new ones.

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aagcobb Aug 7, 2015 • 9:24:11am

re: #393 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump is a hybrid of Christie’s assholery, Rubio’s naivete, Cruz’s lack of reality, and Scott Walker’s derpness.

And he’s keeping his option open to run as an independent if the GOP dares to deny him the nomination, which would guarantee a democratic victory. What a nightmare for the Republican establishment he is!

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Jayleia Aug 7, 2015 • 9:29:19am

re: #405 aagcobb

I’m prepared for that eventuality

Need MOAR!

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:30:25am

re: #405 aagcobb

And he’s keeping his option open to run as an independent if the GOP dares to deny him the nomination, which would guarantee a democratic victory. What a nightmare for the Republican establishment he is!

The GOP is looking like Dr. Strangelove in those scenes where his own right hand is trying to kill him.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 9:30:51am

HAHAHA TEH TRUMP-CLINTON CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

Trump is a life long friend and donor to the Clinton’s. He’s a big liberal. #tcot

— Common Sense (@TomErvin2) August 7, 2015

MT “@dhrxsol1234: Is #RealDonaldTrump a #Democrat shill?? #tcot” Well…he himself admitted he can be bought & does buy favors #MoneyTalks

— kc (@kittycat_carter) August 7, 2015

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CuriousLurker Aug 7, 2015 • 9:32:01am

OT Drive-by:

Utoeya hosts first student camp since #Norway massacre http://t.co/uYs8uQXIkf #p2 #tiot

— CuriousLurker (@CuriousLurker) August 7, 2015

Utoeya hosts first student camp since Norway massacre

It’s a tiny place - no more than a few hundred square metres of forested hillside and scattered clearings. A tranquil place of wild flowers, birdsong and lapping water.

But for the last four years, the island of Utoeya has been associated with an act of almost unfathomable cruelty.

When Anders Behring Breivik shot dead 69 mostly teenage members of the Norwegian Labour Party’s youth wing, on 22 July, 2011, Utoeya took its place alongside such cities as New York, London, Madrid and Mumbai as the scene of appalling, politically motivated violence.

Now the Worker’s Youth League (AUF) wants to reclaim Utoeya as a place of youthful idealism and relaxed political discourse. […]

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 9:32:23am

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

Trump lashing out.

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.@FrankLuntz So Presidential. Is it possible that @realDonaldTrump doesn't realize that he's a clown who panders to jackasses?

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 9:32:33am

re: #400 De Kolta Chair

OT, but somehow this slipped under my radar:

Doubtful News, August 5 — Joseph Smith’s “seer stone” revealed

Image: The rock that launched a thousand derps and rang a billion doorbells.

Slab that puppy up and it would make nice cabs for a belt buckle.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 9:33:57am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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using the word “bimbo” disqualifies one from office.

@Anomaly100 @realDonaldTrump always doubles down on the idiocy. He's not the type to smarten up.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:38:22am

re: #411 Dave In Austin

Slab that puppy up and it would make nice cabs for a belt buckle.

Looks like Leverite to me.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 9:38:59am

Democrats watching the #GOPDebate last night pic.twitter.com/7v4WJok3vM #p2 #ctl #topprog #tcot #tlot

— ÐiegoUK (@DiegoUK) August 7, 2015

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allegro Aug 7, 2015 • 9:39:47am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

HAHAHA TEH TRUMP-CLINTON CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

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He’s neither Republican or Democrat - he’s all Trump all the time. In it for only himself for personal enrichment in dollars or attention to feed his massive and comical ego. The only reason he’s running under the GOP banner is because he’d never get away with his behavior in the liberal/progressive arena. He sees the fertile fields of Fox zombies and is there to reap and profit from what the right has sown.

That they can’t see this is pretty funny really. He doesn’t even have to lie to them about it.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 9:40:57am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

@Cosmopolitan What do you expect? Trump is Conservative dysfunction turned up to 11. The whole subculture is a menace.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 9:43:39am

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

Megyn just blew all the good feels Liberals were having toward her for her takedown of Trump

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@megynkelly @marcorubio I hope not. That would mean that regressive lunatics took away women's rights and made them incubators.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 9:44:37am

It might be time to assign Trump a protective services detail. That’s not normal, but there are a lot of true believers out there watching their caudillos vaporize.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 9:47:51am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

Rand Paul is taking last night’s slapfight with Christie to Teh Twitters

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@RandPaul @ChrisChristie Can't we all just agree that you're both ridiculous?

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:49:05am

re: #418 Decatur Deb

Considering all of the people whom Trump has bamboozled/shafted/fleeced it seems that he at least has enough of his own security to avoid being punched in the nose.

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allegro Aug 7, 2015 • 9:52:05am

re: #420 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Considering all of the people whom Trump has bamboozled/shafted/fleeced it seems that he at least has enough of his own security to avoid being punched in the nose.

You know that his court of yes-people is well populated and that would include 24/7 bodyguards. His ego demands it.

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 9:55:29am

re: #420 Higgs Boson’s Mate

re: #421 allegro

Official security has a bit more power, and better commo/coordination with the uniformed world. All it needs is someone to take a nutcase off the shelf and wind it up.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:55:29am

re: #421 allegro

You know that his court of yes-people is well populated and that would include 24/7 bodyguards. His ego demands it.

“The best of the best of the best, sir!”

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:57:06am

re: #422 Decatur Deb

Official security has a bit more power, and better commo/coordination with the uniformed world. All it needs is someone to take a nutcase off the shelf and wind it up.

All right, put some feds around Trump. As long as we bill the NRA for the cost.

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 9:57:27am

If Trump picks security chiefs like he picks lawyers and wives, he could have a problem.

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allegro Aug 7, 2015 • 9:58:59am

re: #425 Decatur Deb

If Trump picks security chiefs like he picks lawyers and wives, he could have a problem.

Heh, valid point.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 9:59:50am

re: #425 Decatur Deb

If Trump picks security chiefs like he picks lawyers and wives, he could have a problem.

That’s it! The real Trump was taken out years ago and now his hair is trying to warn us that he’s a zombie.

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CuriousLurker Aug 7, 2015 • 10:01:11am

re: #409 CuriousLurker

This part from the BBC article just jumped out at me:

Utoeya took its place alongside such cities as New York, London, Madrid and Mumbai as the scene of appalling, politically motivated violence. […]

So it was “appalling, politically motivated violence”, not terrorism? They only use the t-word once, about six paragraphs from the end of the article (most people won’t read that far):

The authorities regard the likelihood of another act of far-right terrorism as low, but were stung by allegations that their response in 2011 was slow and chaotic.

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 10:02:11am

Trump’s Chief of Security

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:02:56am

30% of conservatives believe Trump is a librul plant, 30% believe he’ll be the next POTUS, and the remainder are waiting for Zombie Reagan.

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allegro Aug 7, 2015 • 10:06:20am

re: #430 Dr. Matt

30% of conservatives believe Trump is a librul plant, 30% believe he’ll be the next POTUS, and the remainder are waiting for Zombie Reagan.

50% are wondering where they left their teeth and the other 50% are trying to distinguish which sock goes on which foot.

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Kragar Aug 7, 2015 • 10:07:54am

Mike Huckabee’s bizarre fetal personhood proposal would criminalize miscarriages http://t.co/JawLdKYuHk

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:08:48am

re: #431 allegro

50% are wondering where they left their teeth and the other 50% are trying to distinguish which sock goes on which foot.

2% have to concentrate on remembering to breathe

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Decatur Deb Aug 7, 2015 • 10:08:54am

re: #431 allegro

50% are wondering where they left their teeth and the other 50% are trying to distinguish which sock goes on which foot.

Be fair—it makes a difference. Their socks are never the same size or color. They’re anti-homosoxual.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 10:13:51am

Father of ex-owner of Hobbs gun shop is sentenced to prison http://t.co/ObWN7hPbUU

— ABQJournal (@ABQJournal) August 5, 2015

Under terms of their plea agreements, the three must forfeit about 165 firearms, six silencers and more than 25,000 rounds of ammunition.

JADE HELM!

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Kragar Aug 7, 2015 • 10:16:13am

The particular strain of wingnut that still proudly votes in GOP primaries will NOT fall for a mealy mouthed repeat of McCain or Romney.

— Propane Jane (@docrocktex26) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:16:19am

re: #432 Kragar

Mike Huckabee’s bizarre fetal personhood proposal would criminalize miscarriages t.co
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 7, 2015

Little does the right realize that a fetal personhood law would actually be Orwellian. Imagine this….every time a woman has intercourse she’ll have to be monitored for whether she’s pregnant or not. During that time should couldn’t drink, take many Rx drugs, eat certain foods, etc because it they could be harmful to the “fetal person”. “Fetal personhood” registries would have to be created and the woman and her “fetal person” would be subject to follow-up. For fuck’s sake, the right are fucking deluded.

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gwangung Aug 7, 2015 • 10:17:14am

re: #437 Dr. Matt

Little does the right realize that a fetal personhood law would actually be Orwellian. Imagine this….every time a woman has intercourse she’ll have to be monitored for whether she’s pregnant or not. During that time should couldn’t drink, take many Rx drugs, eat certain foods, etc because it they could be harmful to the “fetal person”. “Fetal personhood” registries would have to be created and the woman and her “fetal person” would be subject to follow-up. For fuck’s sake, the right are fucking deluded.

Actually, this is a feature, not a bug.

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 10:17:41am

re: #413 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Looks like Leverite to me.

When I was prospecting in AZ I found Leverites all the time. And that’s what I would do, just Leverite there.
(Ducks…)

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:17:48am

re: #438 gwangung

Actually, this is a feature, not a bug.

Touche’

Nothing like shrinking the government….

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 10:18:59am

re: #437 Dr. Matt

Little does the right realize that a fetal personhood law would actually be Orwellian. Imagine this….every time a woman has intercourse she’ll have to be monitored for whether she’s pregnant or not. During that time should couldn’t drink, take many Rx drugs, eat certain foods, etc because it they could be harmful to the “fetal person”. “Fetal personhood” registries would have to be created and the woman and her “fetal person” would be subject to follow-up. For fuck’s sake, the right are fucking deluded.

Huckabee has TEH MOAST FUCKED UP PLATFORM of the entire gang of freaking idiots.

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Jenner7 Aug 7, 2015 • 10:19:19am

re: #432 Kragar

That’s fucked up.

And we’re supposed to be outraged that Obama compared these extremists to extremists in Iran??

Nah.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 10:22:02am

re: #440 Dr. Matt

Touche’

Nothing like shrinking the government….

I used to misunderstand that one too. I now know that it means that they want to shrink part of the government down to where they can use it to probe bodily cavities.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 10:30:00am

Two Russian Spetsnaz robot-dance at Army-2015 military expo.
Video

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:31:43am

Fact Checking the GOP Debate, Late Edition

Here’s a teaser: They all fucking lied….a lot

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 10:33:10am

Whoa, talk about your judicial over reach.

Texas judge orders young man to marry girlfriend and write Bible verses to avoid jail time

A Texas man facing jail time for getting into a fight with his girlfriend’s old boyfriend was given two choices by an East Texas judge: go to jail or marry his girlfriend in 30 days, reports KLTV.

Video at the link.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 10:34:02am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 10:41:25am

Off work! Time to have fun with my family and friends? pic.twitter.com/zicL77O8CU

— Clay (@ClaysoClaymac) August 7, 2015

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FormerDirtDart Aug 7, 2015 • 10:42:03am

The thing over the left ear is amazing. You stare+wonder if it'd crack if you bent it. @NoahShachtman @Olivianuzzi pic.twitter.com/UqrHEpqVRv

— Timothy C. (@Granitepolitics) August 7, 2015

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makeitstop Aug 7, 2015 • 10:42:11am

re: #415 allegro

He’s neither Republican or Democrat - he’s all Trump all the time. In it for only himself for personal enrichment in dollars or attention to feed his massive and comical ego. The only reason he’s running under the GOP banner is because he’d never get away with his behavior in the liberal/progressive arena. He sees the fertile fields of Fox zombies and is there to reap and profit from what the right has sown.

That they can’t see this is pretty funny really. He doesn’t even have to lie to them about it.

I’ve been having a great time on Facebook this morning, finding conservatives complaining about Fox and replying that they’re being played. A sample:

Fox has played you guys, and it’s time you learned it. They wanted ratings, and they got them.

If you can’t trust them to ‘show unity,’ what else can you trust them with?

They’re playing all of you, and I could have told you that years ago. Nobody listens to me, though.

Funny thing is, a few of them are agreeing with me. The potential Trump carnage could not only wreck the GOP, but may end up shaking the foundations of the Hate Machine itself.

Meanwhile, I shall sow the seeds of doubt wherever the opportunity presents itself. Heh.

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makeitstop Aug 7, 2015 • 10:43:50am

re: #424 Higgs Boson’s Mate

All right, put some feds around Trump. As long as we bill the NRA for the cost.

“Mexico will pay for it!”

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lawhawk Aug 7, 2015 • 10:45:18am

Cruz: We need a president like el Sisi in Egypt.

— Christine Fair (@CChristineFair) August 7, 2015

.@CChristineFair but it seems that Cruz rather likes the power to arrest and detain political opponents without regard to civil rights

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 7, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 10:45:19am

DIM JIM IS OUTRAGED BY MEAN GIRL MEGYN KELLY

Enough Is Enough=> Petition Started to Ban FOX’s @MegynKelly from Hosting Any Further GOP Debates https://t.co/WuvDbXzYuV via @gatewaypundit

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 7, 2015

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 7, 2015 • 10:45:56am

re: #450 makeitstop

I’ve been having a great time on Facebook this morning, finding conservatives complaining about Fox and replying that they’re being played. A sample:

Funny thing is, a few of them are agreeing with me. The potential Trump carnage could not only wreck the GOP, but may end up shaking the foundations of the Hate Machine itself.

Meanwhile, I shall sow the seeds of doubt wherever the opportunity presents itself. Heh.

The Hate Machine abides…
It is a huge moneymaker and will not go away. It will reinvent itself and come back to life. It may lose some of its influence, (I hope) over time, but I don’t see it going away. Haters got to hate,

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goddamnedfrank Aug 7, 2015 • 10:47:18am

Doubtful. Future generations will be living on a massively overcrowded planet, grateful it isn't even more crowded. @megynkelly @marcorubio

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) August 7, 2015

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ObserverArt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:47:18am

Just to break up a bit of the GOP debate discussion…

Formula One driver, wife and friends were ripped off while staying in a villa on the French Riviera…and didn’t know it was happening because the entire villa was gassed.

It doesn’t even pay to be rich and famous and staying in the lap of luxury anymore.

I know many of you could care less about a rich F1 driver…I just thought it strange how it was done. And the rest of the article goes on to explain it has become a common tactic.

dailymail.co.uk UK Daily Mail - Jenson Button and his model wife Jessica Michibata were GASSED by burglars who broke into their St Tropez villa and stole her £250,000 diamond engagement ring while they were out cold

Jenson Button and his wife Jessica Michibata were gassed at their luxury French villa as robbers looted the house and stole belongings worth £300,000.

The couple - who had been asleep - lay unconscious in bed as the burglars rifled through the rented St Tropez home, taking items including 30-year-old Jessica’s £250,000 engagement ring.

French police believe the gang had been watching the villa for days before letting off a cannister of anaesthetic gas into an air-conditioning vent.

The raiders then broke into the luxury mansion and even walked around the couple’s bed. Three friends who were staying in the rented retreat are also believed to have been rendered unconscious.

The group only discovered they had been targeted when they woke up the next morning and found the mansion ransacked and the engagement ring missing.

Button, 35, who won the Formula 1 drivers’ championship in 2009, has a £71million fortune and was ranked as the third richest British sports star in this year’s Sunday Times Sport Rich List.

A source close to the McLaren driver told The Sun: ‘Police have told Jenson they’re convinced the burglars gassed the house using the air conditioning units.

‘Over the past five years, it’s becoming an increasingly common way for top criminals to launch raids on expensive properties in the area without being disturbed.

‘Jenson is convinced that’s what happened too. The burglars were in the same room as him and Jessica, rifling through all their drawers.

‘But they weren’t disturbed at all because the effects of the gas gives the burglars free reign.

‘It was the same for their three other friends — they were all completely out of it.’

—CUT—

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 10:48:47am

Steve Crowder hearts Carly because SHE HATES TEH FEMINISTS!!!!

Yes, I asked her about #Gamergate => Carly Fiorina Goes Full Honey-Badger on #SJW Feminists http://t.co/jvCPGA1THX pic.twitter.com/J5bfg90jGy

— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) August 7, 2015

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ObserverArt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:52:06am

re: #450 makeitstop

I’ve been having a great time on Facebook this morning, finding conservatives complaining about Fox and replying that they’re being played. A sample:

Funny thing is, a few of them are agreeing with me. The potential Trump carnage could not only wreck the GOP, but may end up shaking the foundations of the Hate Machine itself.

Meanwhile, I shall sow the seeds of doubt wherever the opportunity presents itself. Heh.

Hey, maybe this will shrink FOX to the point where it can be drowned in a bathtub.

Anything that knocks FOX down a few rungs is just fine by me.

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jaunte Aug 7, 2015 • 10:54:16am

Huckabee's “DNA schedule” reason for saying life begins at conception is completely made up. #AtheistVoter http://t.co/HKkjd4HrH5

— American Atheists (@AmericanAtheist) August 7, 2015

Huckabee, inventing new pseudoscience.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 10:55:00am

re: #453 The Vicious Babushka

DIM JIM IS OUTRAGED BY MEAN GIRL MEGYN KELLY

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Why not ban Fox as a whole. The network has been manipulating ignorant Conservatives for years. @megynkelly @gatewaypundit

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 7, 2015 • 10:55:00am

re: #456 ObserverArt

Just to break up a bit of the GOP debate discussion…

Formula One driver, wife and friends were ripped off while staying in a villa on the French Riviera…and didn’t know it was happening because the entire villa was gassed.

It doesn’t even pay to be rich and famous and staying in the lap of luxury anymore.

I know many of you could care less about a rich F1 driver…I just thought it strange how it was done. And the rest of the article goes on to explain it has become a common tactic.

dailymail.co.uk UK Daily Mail - Jenson Button and his model wife Jessica Michibata were GASSED by burglars who broke into their St Tropez villa and stole her £250,000 diamond engagement ring while they were out cold

If you have to give a woman a £250,000 diamond engagement ring you have less game than I do.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:56:24am

@MegynKelly can get in the good grace of wingnuts again if she starts going full birther and….of course….#BENGHAZI!

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 7, 2015

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 7, 2015 • 10:56:30am

OT
Watched just part of the debates last night. Did i see Carl Rove sitting in the front row or did I have a bad nightmare.

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:57:30am

re: #459 jaunte

Huckabee, inventing new pseudoscience.

#DNA schedule” is a fake term. #GOPDebate

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 10:57:36am

re: #449 FormerDirtDart

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ObserverArt Aug 7, 2015 • 10:58:16am

re: #461 Iwouldprefernotto

If you have to give a woman a £250,000 diamond engagement ring you have less game than I do.

Pocket change for this driver. What’s that bit about a ring being a percentage of your piggy bank?

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 10:58:59am

Is IJREVIEW white supremacist or just garden variety wingnut?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 10:59:33am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

Is IJREVIEW white supremacist or just garden variety wingnut?

There’s a difference?

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goddamnedfrank Aug 7, 2015 • 11:00:14am

The real story about Megyn Kelly should be her questioning of Rubio:

Kelly had started a question asking how he can support rape and incest exceptions when Cardinal Timothy Dolan recently called them “preposterous” and said they “discriminate against an entire class of human beings.”

“If you believe that life begins at conception, which you do, how do you justify ending a life just because it begins violently through no fault of the baby?” Kelly asked Rubio during the debate.

Megyn Kelly is in favor of forcing rape victims to carry their rape resulting pregnancies to term.

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calochortus Aug 7, 2015 • 11:00:42am

re: #466 ObserverArt

Pocket change for this driver. What’s that bit about a ring being a percentage of your piggy bank?

“That bit” is pure marketing from DeBeers. I never had an engagement ring. Never wanted one. Married 38 years and never felt the lack. But that’s just me.

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 11:02:20am

re: #400 De Kolta Chair

OT, but somehow this slipped under my radar:

Doubtful News, August 5 — Joseph Smith’s “seer stone” revealed

The LDS Church provided a new glimpse of its origins Tuesday by publishing the handwritten “printer’s manuscript” of the Book of Mormon and photos of the “seer stone,” a dark, egg-size polished rock founder Joseph Smith claimed to have used to produce the faith’s sacred scripture.

Smith said he was led to a set of buried gold plates, which recorded the history of ancient American civilizations and a visit to this continent by Jesus Christ. The Mormon prophet said he was able to “translate” the “reformed Egyptian” language, using spiritual tools, including his “seer stone.”

Did Josh Gad write that? //

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goddamnedfrank Aug 7, 2015 • 11:02:59am

Also, I really like how you came out last night in favor of forcing rape victims to carry rape resultant pregnancies to term. @megynkelly

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) August 7, 2015

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ObserverArt Aug 7, 2015 • 11:03:10am

re: #470 calochortus

“That bit” is pure marketing from DeBeers. I never had an engagement ring. Never wanted one. Married 38 years and never felt the lack. But that’s just me.

I know. I’ve never understood the whole diamond thing. But to many, that ring/symbol is sometime as much or more important to a relationship than the relationship.

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Kragar Aug 7, 2015 • 11:03:33am

re: #466 ObserverArt

Bullshit.

The 6 Most Cynical Exploitations of Romantic Love in History

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Iwouldprefernotto Aug 7, 2015 • 11:03:39am

re: #470 calochortus

“That bit” is pure marketing from DeBeers. I never had an engagement ring. Never wanted one. Married 38 years and never felt the lack. But that’s just me.

My EX wife was unhappy about the size of the diamond that I gave her.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 11:04:32am

Mrs. FBW couldn’t understand why I couldn’t watch the debate last night. It’s a combination of knowing that it would lead to spiralling anger at how much bullshit was being thrown and how truly bad the ideas are, with the knowledge that whoever out of these clowns gets nominated, he starts with 45% of the vote. That means there’s a significant chance he could win, and that we will almost certainly have a GOP majority Congress, and probably Senate.

That possibility frightens me as it has never frightened me before. Even Reagan actually GOVERNED as if he cared about something other than fetuses and rich white people.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 11:05:36am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

The real story about Megyn Kelly should be her questioning of Rubio:

Megyn Kelly is in favor of forcing rape victims to carry their rape resulting pregnancies to term.

That’s completely consistent with the belief that women are simply incubators.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 11:06:10am

re: #472 goddamnedfrank

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Giving the rapist the power to remove a woman’s personhood.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 11:06:45am

This is a 1956 Fuldamobil. It features an all aluminum body and it’s powered by a 200cc engine. It’s current featured on Bring a Trailer where you will find it being offered for sale for $22,000.

That there are cars like this in the world makes me smile for some reason.

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calochortus Aug 7, 2015 • 11:07:56am

re: #473 ObserverArt

re: #475 Iwouldprefernotto

Engagement rings seem to be important to some couples, and that’s fine.
My dad couldn’t afford a ring for my mom when they were engaged and later, when they had the money, he bought her a modest “engagement” ring. I think it was a symbol of his ability to provide for the family.
Some women really like bling and that too is OK. I just don’t like the world taking cues from advertisers on what is proper.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 11:08:59am

re: #472 goddamnedfrank

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Megyn, I think future generations will be astonished that a minority believed abortion was bad, and yet everything they did about it made it more frequent.

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Kragar Aug 7, 2015 • 11:09:16am

re: #479 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Saw one of these at the supermarket last week.

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Bubblehead II Aug 7, 2015 • 11:09:34am

.@piersmorgan @realDonaldTrump @FoxNews & I am going 2 luv watching him rip the GOP apart w/3rd party run when he doesn't get GOP nomination
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) August 7, 2015

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iossarian Aug 7, 2015 • 11:10:09am

re: #482 Kragar

Just the thing for shooting at giant spiders as you speed across the broken salt flats.

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ObserverArt Aug 7, 2015 • 11:10:37am

re: #474 Kragar

Bullshit.

The 6 Most Cynical Exploitations of Romantic Love in History

As I just said…I am not supporting anything to do with the diamond industry and their marketing. I was just having some fun with Iprefernotto about a race driver worth 71 million pounds spending $250,000 on a rock.

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The Vicious Babushka Aug 7, 2015 • 11:11:33am

I am very sad that Zedushka has gone Full Metal Wingnut even though he is retired on SS disability and is supported by my Obamajob, drives an Obamacar and has enjoyed Obamacations to Czech Republic, Netherlands, Israel, and Florida.

Last night he was all Magical Balance Fairy on seeing the full Derpitude of the GOP hopefuls laid out so starkly.

HURR HURR BUT AL FRANKEN!!! HURR HURR
BUT DENNIS KUCHINICH!!!
HURR HURR BUT JOE BIDEN!!!!!!
(He seems to think Joe Biden is TOTES STUPIDS I don’t know why)
HURR HURR BUT JESSE VENTURE!!!!!1!! (Is he even a Democrat?)
HURR HURR BUT JERRY SPRINGER!!!!!! Wait when did Jerry Springer run for office?

It’s very sad to see a loved one deteriorate so badly.

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Eventual Carrion Aug 7, 2015 • 11:11:54am

re: #482 Kragar

Saw one of these at the supermarket last week.

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We have a couple rolling around the roads here. I looked at one at the car show in town 4th July weekend. They are pretty cool.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 11:12:08am

re: #477 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s completely consistent with the belief that women are simply incubators.

And the ones who allow their pregnancy to inconvenience their husbands are just feminist bitches. Everybody knows that a woman can cook, wash, and clean while in labor.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 11:12:11am

re: #482 Kragar

Saw one of these at the supermarket last week.

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Those start at $25,199. Shouldn’t the point of a minimalist car be low price?

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goddamnedfrank Aug 7, 2015 • 11:12:42am

re: #477 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s completely consistent with the belief that women are simply incubators.

re: #478 wrenchwench

Giving the rapist the power to remove a woman’s personhood.

The really amazing thing here is that this is now the official GOP position, that there should be no exception at all for rape. Kelly required Rubio to justify backing a law that had an exception, and he lied, denying he’d actually done that. Republicans are pro rape, and pro using the law to sanction the forced reproduction of rapist’s genes.

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makeitstop Aug 7, 2015 • 11:13:35am

re: #479 Higgs Boson’s Mate

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This is a 1956 Fuldamobil. It features an all aluminum body and it’s powered by a 200cc engine. It’s current featured on Bring a Trailer where you will find it being offered for sale for $22,000.

That there are cars like this in the world makes me smile for some reason.

Cute, in a really ‘ugly duckling’ kind of way.

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makeitstop Aug 7, 2015 • 11:14:22am

re: #482 Kragar

Saw one of these at the supermarket last week.

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I saw that same Can-Am on the road in Montreal.

That is a Can-Am, isn’t it?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 11:15:07am

re: #482 Kragar

Saw one of these at the supermarket last week.

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What a coincidence: my wife and I passed one that was parked just the other day. I think it’s a neat idea. I’d prefer one that wasn’t so aggressively styled though. Are all of them red?

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 11:16:26am

re: #492 makeitstop

I saw that same Can-Am on the road in Montreal.

That is a Can-Am, isn’t it?

Polaris Slingshot, which is a pretty cool name, but it’s out of my price range. I might pick up a new used bike next year for that open-air feeling.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 11:17:06am

re: #493 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What a coincidence: my wife and I passed one that was parked just the other day. I think it’s a neat idea. I’d prefer one that wasn’t so aggressively styled though. Are all of them red?

Click the link in my 489 to see the various models and prices.

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De Kolta Chair Aug 7, 2015 • 11:17:11am

re: #450 makeitstop

Meanwhile, I shall sow the seeds of doubt wherever the opportunity presents itself. Heh.

A salute to an exemplary citizen!

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Eventual Carrion Aug 7, 2015 • 11:17:22am

re: #492 makeitstop

I saw that same Can-Am on the road in Montreal.

That is a Can-Am, isn’t it?

Polaris.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 11:17:36am

re: #491 makeitstop

Cute, in a really ‘ugly duckling’ kind of way.

I commented over at BaT that it looked like Buckminster Fuller’s Dymaxion car had a puppy.

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calochortus Aug 7, 2015 • 11:18:38am

So, how different does DNA have to be to constitute a unique human being? Would a cancer cell count? A teratoma? They are somewhat different from the rest of your DNA.

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wrenchwench Aug 7, 2015 • 11:18:55am

Tucsonan among leaders at Mongol Derby http://t.co/x8BmFXQ1Yc pic.twitter.com/ec7HNEOVup

— Arizona Daily Star (@TucsonStar) August 7, 2015

[…]

Tanaka and other riders will trek 600 miles over six days across the wooded plains and sandy dunes of the steppe. Their only companions are 25 wild horses; the competitors ride the animals for long stretches at a time.

The Star’s Jon Gold wrote about the 25-year-old Tanaka in this story. Tanaka’s progress can be tracked (amazingly) on Twitter , where race organizers provide leaderboard, medical and weather updates. The race isn’t for the weak: two racers have already retired from the competition.

Follow the link if only for the photos (which, sadly, don’t embiggen.)

You've probably been waiting for this. The Day 3 Race Report: http://t.co/WeonC5R8Bu

— Mongol Derby (@mongolderbylive) August 7, 2015

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Lidane Aug 7, 2015 • 11:18:57am

Tony Perkins: Trump is popular because GOP doesn't have the “backbone” to impeach Obama http://t.co/X0RPJAqokw

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) August 7, 2015

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Jayleia Aug 7, 2015 • 11:20:21am

re: #486 The Vicious Babushka

Jerry Springer was a mayor and councilmember in Cincinnatti…in the 70s. Complete with prostitution scandal, notably different from current scandals, he got out in front of the scandal, as opposed to creating a fake scandal to make it look like the real scandal wasn’t so bad.

And in a so very tabloid thing…his check to the service in question bounced.

And I’d still vote for him over any of the Republican Twitterers

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WhatEVs Aug 7, 2015 • 11:21:35am

re: #486 The Vicious Babushka

I believe that Jerry Springer was the mayor of Cincinnati. And yes, a Democrat.

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allegro Aug 7, 2015 • 11:22:20am

re: #490 goddamnedfrank

The really amazing thing here is that this is now the official GOP position, that there should be no exception at all for rape. Kelly required Rubio to justify backing a law that had an exception, and he lied, denying he’d actually done that. Republicans are pro rape, and pro using the law to sanction the forced reproduction of rapist’s genes.

As dangerous as it is to be a brown minority in this country today, those who are in the greatest danger are young women of all ethnicities.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 11:22:29am

re: #483 Bubblehead II

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Mrs. FBW read me his response to the ‘Will you promise to support the GOP nominee, no matter who it is?’, and all he could do was promise not to run as an independent if they nominated him.

“Diss is a nice political party you got here. Be a shame if sumpin’ was to happen to it…”

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Kragar Aug 7, 2015 • 11:23:57am

re: #493 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The one we saw was all black with some dark chrome

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 7, 2015 • 11:25:39am

re: #493 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What a coincidence: my wife and I passed one that was parked just the other day. I think it’s a neat idea. I’d prefer one that wasn’t so aggressively styled though.Are all of them red?

See? Not aggressive at all!

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 11:27:25am

re: #507 Blind Frog Belly White

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That Morgan Three Wheeler looks much nicer than the Polaris.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 7, 2015 • 11:28:25am

There was no clear winner at #GOPdebate last night, but there was one clear loser: American women & their families: http://t.co/uclkAZrRQV

— Barbara Boxer (@BarbaraBoxer) August 7, 2015

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Dave In Austin Aug 7, 2015 • 11:29:57am

Waiting for it…….

This would cut up into nice cabs for a really cool belt buckle. #mormon pic.twitter.com/HiXyyxj3Zi

— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 11:32:16am

re: #501 Lidane

Tony Perkins: Trump is popular because GOP doesn’t have the “backbone” to impeach Obama t.co
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) August 7, 2015

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Dr. Matt Aug 7, 2015 • 11:32:51am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was no clear winner at #GOPdebate last night, but there was one clear loser: American women & their families: t.co

— Barbara Boxer (@BarbaraBoxer) August 7, 2015

I disagree. The winner was the Democratic Party.

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No Country For Old Haters Aug 7, 2015 • 11:36:28am

re: #512 Dr. Matt

I disagree. The winner was the Democratic Party.

The Dems are the clear winners. When the R's show us what they are, even lazy voters like me will show up to oppose them. @BarbaraBoxer

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) August 7, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 7, 2015 • 11:38:14am

re: #507 Blind Frog Belly White

Mogs rule!

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Amory Blaine Aug 7, 2015 • 11:49:12am

re: #502 Jayleia

I believe he got caught because he paid the prostitute with a check.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 7, 2015 • 11:59:21am

re: #515 Amory Blaine

I believe he got caught because he paid the prostitute with a check.

yep

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Nyet Aug 7, 2015 • 1:49:43pm

re: #400 De Kolta Chair

At least it’s a “real” stone, unlike all those pieces of the True Cross, Holy Shrouds and chopped off holy body parts of the mainstream Christianity. Those are fakes squared.

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Skandal Aug 7, 2015 • 5:36:14pm

re: #345 Romantic Heretic

news.nationalpost.com

Since 1867, only five elections have ended with the winner attracting more than 50% of the vote. In other words — now write this down rabble fans — the majority of Canadians almost always vote against the winner.

The only prime ministers to ever top 50% (and they managed it only once each) were Mulroney, Diefenbaker, King, Borden and Laurier (note, that’s three Tories and just two Liberals.)

The majority of Canadians voted against Pierre Trudeau every time he ran, i.e. five times out of five. Lester Pearson never came close to 50%. Mackenzie King ran the country for more than 20 years and only topped 50% once (in 1940). Sir John A. Macdonald’s best campaign was his last, when he attracted 48.6% of the votes. Jean Chretien’s best was just over 41% in 1993, even though the Conservatives were in the process of being destroyed.

So you could hardly make a more meaningless, insipid, unoriginal point than the fact that “60% of the country voted for someone else.” That’s what happens when you have more than two parties. Tell us something we don’t know.

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