Fox Business Debate: Republican Bad Ideas That Stopped Living, Part 3

So many lies and distortions
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Whew. That was grueling. So many bad ideas and outright lies (Dodd Frank does raise capital requirements for large banks) crammed into a mere two hours, briefly interrupted by commercials touting the work of rapacious corporations and their right wing “think tank” fronts.

As I write this, Ted Cruz just said he’d let the financial sector collapse if there were another crisis, and he wants to reinstate the gold standard.

Here’s our third thread, the wrap-up thread if you will, to hash over what we just witnessed.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:10:34pm
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:10:50pm

I predict the pundits will say Rubio won, Jeb! lost.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:10:58pm

LIGHTNING ROUND

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:11:49pm

Kasich apparently has 16 year olds.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:12:11pm

re: #3 jaunte

LIGHTNING ROUND

I’m still waiting for the Ice Cream Round!

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:12:16pm

My hubby predicts Jeb will be out by Christmas. It’s any wonder how he became Governor of Florida…

Well, then again, it’s Florida.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:12:21pm
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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:12:52pm

Middle class also crushed by HP layoffs.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:12:57pm

re: #4 jaunte

Kasich apparently has 16 year olds.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:13:14pm

“Imagine a Clinton presidency…”

OK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:13:18pm
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Viscous Obama  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:13:29pm

Can’t wait until the next debate when someone insults the sociologists

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:13:48pm
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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:13:51pm

“divider-in-chief”

Thanks Jerb.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:14:17pm

Preacher Ted.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:14:42pm

More like 1964, Ted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:14:49pm
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Viscous Obama  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:15:40pm

re: #15 jaunte

Preacher Ted.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:15:49pm

re: #15 jaunte

Preacher Ted.

This is such a great Vine.

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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:16:04pm

Crus: Not bold colors, but pastels!

Whoa.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:16:35pm

“New American Century” - again from Rubio.

It’s like he’s almost paid to say those words.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:16:37pm

Carson is so laid back he can barely get out the word “debate”

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:16:51pm

Carson: Drug overdoses, abortionists, suicide. We are great. Fuck political correctness.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:17:08pm

Shilling for his employers:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:17:42pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:17:55pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:18:13pm

UNLEASH BOOMING REAGAN!

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:18:41pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:19:16pm

re: #27 Not a Sparkly Vampire

UNLEASH BOOMING REAGAN!

You have the cheat codes? /cool

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:19:58pm

re: #22 jaunte

Carson is so laid back he can barely get out the word “debate”

“Ben Carson delivered in a big way,” says the Fox pundit. Mostly by keeping his mouth shut.
wonkette.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:20:14pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:20:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:20:52pm
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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:20:53pm

re: #30 BeachDem

It was a goo bate… I mean good debate…

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:21:26pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That would be 876,000 per year, which amazingly is more or less correct.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:21:44pm

Made it through, but in an altered state.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:21:53pm

Its the same shit, different day. Cut taxes, roll back regulations, build a wall, go to war with Russia.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:21:57pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The podium?

RBS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:21:58pm

I’m disappointed.
Not one of them had the guts to say “Merry Christmas”.

pffft

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:22:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:23:00pm

re: #35 Brian J.

That would be 876,000 per year, which amazingly is more or less correct.

thanks

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:23:39pm

So the debate is finally done, right? Everyone can go back to their lives now?

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:23:55pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:23:56pm

Everyone ok?
Heads intact?
Sanity still there?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:24:11pm

re: #42 Lidane

So the debate is finally done, right? Everyone can go back to their lives now?

‘Til 15 Dec.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:24:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:24:46pm
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:25:27pm

It’s going to take a while before the talking head industry will admit that Carson is a flake. It will happen, eventually, but for now he’s a token for ratings.

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:25:48pm

Well, if you don’t laugh you just might cry. And these debates help make me laugh with the help of the Lizard crew. Once again thanks. Later…

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A Cranky One  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:25:59pm

re: #44 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Everyone ok?
Heads intact?
Sanity still there?

We’re sorry, the lizards you called are temporarily out of service. Please try again.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:26:02pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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Hitler travelled forward in time and saved Carson’s mother.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:26:06pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:27:42pm

re: #52 Tigger2

Got to stay flex i ble.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:28:07pm

re: #44 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Everyone ok?
Heads intact?
Sanity still there?

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:29:00pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:29:07pm

Anyway, I said below Rubio doesn’t understand Putin. Neither does Fiorina. Putin isn’t acting out of strength to exploit Obama’s weakness. He’s acting out of paranoia and fear to try to preserve a fading empire and his control of it. Making aggressive military moves by the US on the Russian border is a good way to stoke up Russian fear and paranoia that we are bent on regime change in Moscow. Good way to inadvertently start a nuclear war.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:32:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:32:54pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:33:22pm

I did schedule an oil change appointment for the van tomorrow. 19.95 coupon for a Synthetic Blend change at Firestone just down the street from the shop. So it wasn’t a total loss

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:34:22pm
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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:35:21pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Same here, pretty much.

Got about 1” so far and its picking up. Still no winds. It would be great if it stalled. :)

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:36:35pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

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Both

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:36:55pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:37:02pm

Bless you watchers on the wall, valiantly sacrificing brain cells by exposing them to the toxic waste called a debate. I tuned in just long enough to hear Carson say we should stop terrorists by talking away their oil. It would be easy, generals have told him.

I immediately suffered a brain shart. Fortunately, I fell onto the TV remote and so the derp dosage was ended.

Glad I could get the sense of the debate through the lizard filter. Gee, I just used debate and sense in the same sentence. Guess I haven’t fully recovered. ;)

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:38:10pm

I’m going to enjoy an RC Cola and then go to bed. Night all.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:39:32pm

re: #61 Blizard

Got about 1” so far and its picking up. Still no winds. It would be great if it stalled. :)

I’m downvalley from Vail/BC and we have just under an inch of wet snow. Wind has died down considerably from an hour or two ago. Forecast is calling for the heavy stuff later tonight into tomorrow morning. *fingers crossed*

A friend of mine skinned up Beaver Creek with his wife after the last big storm a week ago. He said as long as you were light on your feet and really paid attention to your turns it was ski-able.

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danarchy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:40:23pm

re: #65 Reality Based Steve

I’m going to enjoy an RC Cola and then go to bed. Night all.

If I recall correctly RC cola was one of the more caffeinated colas on the market. Probably not a great before bed drink.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:45:05pm

re: #67 danarchy

If I recall correctly RC cola was one of the more caffeinated colas on the market. Probably not a great before bed drink.

I remember Jolt Cola.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:45:52pm

It is frightening to contemplate the possibility that one of these people could become the President of the United States. Really, I’m serious. ONE OF THESE PEOPLE COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Now try to sleep.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:45:54pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:47:08pm
Click to Reveal
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Belafon  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:47:47pm

I’ve occasionally been seeing this ad online:

To me, it’s really close to “when did you stop beating your wife” territory.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:50:43pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:51:41pm
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sagehen  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:54:19pm

re: #63 Lidane

That’s right up there with Gerald Ford’s “Poland is not under Soviet domination”….

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danarchy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:56:41pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

I remember Jolt Cola.

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Heh, I used to drink the stuff by the liter when when I was doing all nighters in college. It had 72 mg of caffeine compared to like 36 for coke. These days that is pretty quaint compared to the caffeine in modern energy drinks which have 250mg plus.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 8:57:39pm
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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:03:09pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

If he teles and his wife happens to work in health care, I know them.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:03:27pm

Things could always be worse.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:05:47pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Things could always be worse.

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He already has a campaign .gif courtesy of Wonkette.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:07:20pm

re: #78 Blizard

Nope. He’s rocking Marker Duke’s and his wife works in the aviation industry.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:11:23pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Things could always be worse.

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Well, he can’t run for another 8 years, at least.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:11:51pm

UpChuck man! That guy is fuckin’ whack. He’s got a serious deposition coming up, getting grilled by the very expensive lawyers at MoFo. In his lawsuit against Gawker, the defendant’s response to his motions are due on Thursday midnight central time. And he’s spewing on Facebook that he’d like to run for president. He’s seriously mentally ill.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:14:14pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

UpChuck man! That guy is fuckin’ whack. He’s got a serious deposition coming up, getting grilled by the very expensive lawyers at MoFo. In his lawsuit against Gawker, the defendant’s response to his motions are due on Thursday midnight central time. And he’s spewing on Facebook that he’d like to run for president. He’s seriously mentally ill.

His pro bono lawyers are doing all the heavy lifting. Besides, Chuck is convinced he is right and everyone else is wrong.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:19:21pm

re: #84 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

His pro bono lawyers are doing all the heavy lifting. Besides, Chuck is convinced he is right and everyone else is wrong.

I’m convinced that UpChuck wrote the FACTS section of the 111 page fantasy novel that got rejected. The guy’s a loose cannon. It’s like he doesn’t for one freaking second think about what he’s doing, he just does it.

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CleverToad  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:21:21pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

I’m downvalley from Vail/BC and we have just under an inch of wet snow. Wind has died down considerably from an hour or two ago. Forecast is calling for the heavy stuff later tonight into tomorrow morning. *fingers crossed*

It’s supposed to hit Denver sometime in the sma’ wee hours. Nothing but wind gusts so far. Am very glad I’m not looking at my old 13-mile-each-way commute tomorrow morning.

Yes, I know all the ski buffs are itching for their white powder fix. I just hate driving in the stuff.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:21:34pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:23:51pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

I’m convinced that UpChuck wrote the FACTS section of the 111 page fantasy novel that got rejected. The guy’s a loose cannon. It’s like he doesn’t for one freaking second think about what he’s doing, he just does it.

I have the same suspicion. Even a hack lawyer would not spend so much time detailing every single slight against his client.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:24:26pm
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TedStriker  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:26:45pm

re: #89 Lidane

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The man has a point; the GOP hasn’t and doesn’t want to do shit that might help someone else.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:26:59pm

This off topic, but check this promo for a Chinese watch brand, and reflect on the ad’s message.

The watch, by the way, is on sale for $80 today, because it’s Singles Day in China (11/11). I’m debating whether I fit the suggested demographic.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:28:31pm

re: #86 CleverToad

It’s supposed to hit Denver sometime in the sma’ wee hours. Nothing but wind gusts so far. Am very glad I’m not looking at my old 13-mile-each-way commute tomorrow morning.

Yes, I know all the ski buffs are itching for their white powder fix. I just hate driving in the stuff.

I lived in D-Town for a couple of years after I finished school. Besides the one time where I followed a lifted pick-up truck down a flooded Monaco St. (we worked in tandem, his truck made a wake where I could drive through flooded intersections, as long as I rode his ass through the flooded intersection. Craziest most intense commute of my life, I still remember the date, 07 July 2011), driving around Denver when it’s snowy and icy is the worst. I feel you CleverToad, that shit is downright nerve wracking. Especially on the freeways with assholes all around you driving too fast for conditions. Best of luck to you.

BTW, my commute is 28 miles, but on rural highways. The most I worry about is rate of snowfall and plowing. Some nights when it’s snowing hard, I’m driving my little Toyota on pavement covered in almost six inches of fresh snow. Those drives are scary.

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TedStriker  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:28:40pm

re: #91 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This off topic, but check this promo for a Chinese watch brand, and reflect on the ad’s message.

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The watch, by the way, is on sale for $80 today, because it’s Singles Day in China (11/11). I’m debating whether I fit the suggested demographic.

Talk about your Chinglish…

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Great White Snark  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:29:04pm

William? Have you heard this? Lizzy Hale & Device. Close My Eyes Forever

Video

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:34:03pm
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William Lewis  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:36:35pm

re: #94 Great White Snark

William? Have you heard this? Lizzy Hale & Device. Close My Eyes Forever

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Hadn’t - thanks!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:37:55pm

re: #93 TedStriker

Talk about your Chinglish…

Yeah. I’m not sure where they got “metrosexual” from. The Chinese is 显绅士格调 (xian shenshi gediao) which should be translated more like “style for a prominent gentleman.” Metrosexual, according to my dictionary, translates as 潮男 (chao nan). Literally, it means “damp (or moist) man”

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Great White Snark  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:39:38pm

re: #96 William Lewis

This whole playlist is working for me. Love mah spotify

open.spotify.com

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William Lewis  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:49:06pm

re: #98 Great White Snark

This whole playlist is working for me. Love mah spotify

open.spotify.com

Found it on YouTube (audio onlly) and it’s a nice version of the old Lita Ford & Ozzy duet. The Device album looks interesting, may have to buy a copy on payday.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:50:32pm

OK. I was browsing Twitter over lunch today and saw this. Cracked me the fuck up. I mean, I was laughing too loud in the café I was in. People started glaring.

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whitebeach  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:51:03pm

I avoid the Republican debates for the same reason I don’t drive a sled in the Iditarod Run: Who wants to watch a bunch of assholes for hours on end in an environment virtually devoid of human intelligence?

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:53:28pm

Just watched Gravity on DVD (I had never seen it before). As an aviation and missile dude and space buff since the 50s, I can only say WHOA! What a movie. I realize there are some small flaws in the physics, but very damn few, even according to Phil Plait, and the rest is just beyond praise.
Hell, yes, I am keeping my place in the Virgin Galactic waiting list, last year’s fatal accident notwithstanding, and I will go as long as I can maintain medical clearance.

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Great White Snark  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:57:11pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Just watched Gravity on DVD (I had never seen it before). As an aviation and missile dude and space buff since the 50s, I can only say WHOA! What a movie. I realize there are some small flaws in the physics, but very damn few, even according to Phil Plait, and the rest is just beyond praise.
Hell, yes, I am keeping my place in the Virgin Galactic waiting list, last year’s fatal accident notwithstanding, and I will go as long as I can maintain medical clearance.

good for you. i would if i could. one handed typing given new rescue manx cat on left arm asleep. both arm and cat. edit that movie was under rated, caught some undeserved crap

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 9:59:32pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Just watched Gravity on DVD (I had never seen it before). As an aviation and missile dude and space buff since the 50s, I can only say WHOA! What a movie. I realize there are some small flaws in the physics, but very damn few, even according to Phil Plait, and the rest is just beyond praise.
Hell, yes, I am keeping my place in the Virgin Galactic waiting list, last year’s fatal accident notwithstanding, and I will go as long as I can maintain medical clearance.

If you ignore the flaws in orbital dynamics, it does a very good job in showing what life in microgravity is like, and how lethal the environment can be. It can also be seen as a character study of the Sandra Bullock role, as she goes from nerdy, unhappy scientist to steely-eyed rocket woman.

Some people hate the flick, but I love it, too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:00:39pm

And now to teach young minds. Later, people!

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:02:21pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Hell, yes, I am keeping my place in the Virgin Galactic waiting list, last year’s fatal accident notwithstanding, and I will go as long as I can maintain medical clearance.

I’m a little surprised that low-Earth-orbit trips for tourists hasn’t taken off. That’s something I’d want to do, orbit the Earth a few dozen times. I wonder if people just need something to happen to reignite that sense of wonder that kids and adults had in the 50s and 60s and even early 70s with the Apollo moon landings.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:06:17pm

After the discontinuation of the Shuttle Program, the United States still doesn’t have an operational craft that can get humans to and from low-Earth-orbit, to this day. Pitiful.

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:12:15pm

Sigh.

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Stephen T.  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:19:48pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

I’m a little surprised that low-Earth-orbit trips for tourists hasn’t taken off. That’s something I’d want to do, orbit the Earth a few dozen times. I wonder if people just need something to happen to reignite that sense of wonder that kids and adults had in the 50s and 60s and even early 70s with the Apollo moon landings.

The biggest mistake that NASA made in the 50s, 60s and early 70s when it came to their space program was to tell everyone about all the wonderful things they were going to do, from moon bases to Mars Colonies to space habitats. Then they said, but you don’t get to go. It’s only for astronauts.

The Virgin Galactic low-Earth-orbit trips are just the same. They’re going to be offering all the wonders of space, but for $200,000 a ticket, you don’t get to go, either. It’s only for rich and famous movie stars.

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William Lewis  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:37:59pm

re: #109 Stephen T.

The Pan Am clippers cost $950 to go from SF to Manilla in 1936. 60 hours of flying time over 7 days. Only the rich and famous could afford the equivalent of $16,000 today.

It’s a bit less to cross the Pacific Ocean these days. Orbital flight will do the same decrease in price presuming we don’t kill the world first.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:42:05pm

re: #109 Stephen T.

The biggest mistake that NASA made in the 50s, 60s and early 70s when it came to their space program was to tell everyone about all the wonderful things they were going to do, from moon bases to Mars Colonies to space habitats. Then they said, but you don’t get to go. It’s only for astronauts.

The Virgin Galactic low-Earth-orbit trips are just the same. They’re going to be offering all the wonders of space, but for $200,000 a ticket, you don’t get to go, either. It’s only for rich and famous movie stars.

I am neither a movie star nor especially famous, and rich is very much a relative term. It would take thousands of me to make one Walton heir, for example. The full-pay deposit on the VG flight is a substantial expense for me, Even at 250K a pop (which it is now), it is a huge advance over the Shuttle and every previous program in terms of who can be included, expanding the number of people with potential access to space by several orders of magnitude.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:49:36pm

To date, only 577 people have flown in space. Virgin Galactic has 640 paid reservations for their suborbital flight. In real dollars, those 640 people have collectively paid less than the average cost of just one of the 7 manned Project Mercury flights over 50 years ago.

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PeterWolf  Nov 10, 2015 • 10:51:17pm

Worst question of the night had to be the one which asked Carson, whose tax plan god would approve of. I was struck dumb by such a question.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 10, 2015 • 11:25:05pm

Sorry I didn’t get this up before midnight for most of the Lizard Nation, though it is still the 10th on the west coast.

40 years ago today (November 10th), the Edmund Fitzgerald and her crew were lost in Lake Superior. A haunting song with news footage of the doomed ship, its crew and her “ice water mansion.” The otherwise unnamed announcer is the great Harry Reasoner of 60 Minutes Fame.

The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 10, 2015 • 11:39:12pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

Ah, Gordon Lightfoot. A Canadian legend. One of the greatest songwriters to ever come out of my country.

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 12:00:42am

Yup.

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 1:15:41am

I’m a knee-dipping tree fairy. I’m not a park rat by any means. This video edit of Bobby Brown at Breckenridge being a park rat is a fairly beautiful ski edit.

One Run with Bobby Brown

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 1:38:54am

RIP Allen Toussaint

Yes We Can Can

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 1:56:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 2:04:58am

are the crazy people gone and taken the fake cheese podiums with them?

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 11, 2015 • 2:56:09am

re: #37 Big Beautiful Door

Its the same shit, different day. Cut taxes, roll back regulations, build a wall, go to war with Russia.

At which point I’ll ask them, “What happens after the war?”

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HAL2010  Nov 11, 2015 • 2:59:03am

re: #121 Romantic Heretic

At which point I’ll ask them, “What happens after the war?”

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

… Seriously, we don’t have a clue.

/GOP

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:01:05am

re: #121 Romantic Heretic

At which point I’ll ask them, “What happens after the war?”

GOP planning calls on succeeding president to end wars for them…

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Teukka  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:01:59am

re: #122 HAL2010

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

… Seriously, we don’t have a clue.

/GOP

Thing is, anyone with even half a brain and even a trace amount of sanity left knows what war with Russia might mean for the US and the world…
*SM(F)H*

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HAL2010  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:03:56am

re: #124 Teukka

Thing is, anyone with even half a brain and even a trace amount of sanity left knows what war with Russia might mean for the US and the world…
*SM(F)H*

Obviously. It shows the utter insincerity of GOP foreignpolicy at the moment. Breathtaking arrogance. There is no policy, only talking Points.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:08:08am

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, Gordon Lightfoot. A Canadian legend. One of the greatest songwriters to ever come out of my country.

Agreed. He wrote the closest thing I have for a theme song.

Don Quixote (Live In Reno)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:23:07am

welp, The Donald believes he aced the debate:

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:42:08am

Anyone Awake?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:43:52am

Annoying, but truly cute:

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HAL2010  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:45:42am

Well it is 12.45 (midday) here in Sweden. So yes.

Meant to be studying, but here I am.

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William Lewis  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:50:06am

Just finished preparing breakfast for our guests, so hopefully I’m awake…

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:51:13am

re: #128 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Anyone Awake?

I’m about two cups of coffee away from that state.

But I’m here.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 11, 2015 • 3:53:32am

Getting up early on a morning I don’t have to. Time to catch da fishies……

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:12:35am

Baby Giraffe!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:13:17am

Gov. Chris Christie Vetoes Gun Bill Intended to Protect Domestic Violence Victims

grrrrr!!!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:26:29am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:28:34am

going to try to sleep again.

bbl

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:33:09am

Took some NyQuill last night and fell asleep on the couch. Didn’t get to see much.

Salute to the Veterans here today!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:43:46am

On Morning Hack, Donald Trump just said Veterans are in VA waiting rooms for 5 or 6 days and that they are dying in the waiting rooms. To no surprise, the librul media didn’t call him on this bullshit.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:46:41am

re: #108 Jenner7

I hope University of Missouri students are able to get on with getting a good education and that the racial tensions subside. I went to school in Toronto and don’t recall any major racial issues, even though the University I attended was very diverse. No student should have to worry about racism while trying to get good grades at a public university.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:49:01am
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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:52:26am

Wow. From last night’s LA Gov’s debate.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:53:31am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

On Morning Hack, Donald Trump just said Veterans are in VA waiting rooms for 5 or 6 days and that they are dying in the waiting rooms. To no surprise, the librul media didn’t call him on this bullshit.

Morning Joe is not part of the liberal media. Feels like MSNBC is making a rightward turn and getting rid of more liberal hosts. Sigh.

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CleverToad  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:53:59am

re: #92 teleskiguy

Haven’t seen the official snow totals but only about 2-3” in my backyard so far. Hasn’t even delayed the kid’s school, to his indignation. Still glad I’m not driving in the blowy white stuff, though. Hope you’re getting lots of it up where it will be appreciated!

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:54:15am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am feeling most uninformed. What is a YikYak? And what did this person say? Do you know?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:54:39am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

1. What were the threats and when were they posted?
2. What is Yik Yak?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:55:48am

re: #146 WhatEVs

I am feeling most uninformed. What is a YikYak? And what did this person say? Do you know?

I assume this: themaneater.com

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:55:52am

re: #143 WhatEVs

Yet Vitter will probably win handily. Republicans will claim he’s been forgiven by Jesus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:57:39am

re: #146 WhatEVs

I am feeling most uninformed. What is a YikYak? And what did this person say? Do you know?

it’s a smartphone social media app.
The person arrested posted something about shooting every black person on campus.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:58:04am

Ok, Google is my friend.

YikYak is an anonymous Twitter type app.

The threat was: Some of you are alright. Don’t go to campus tomorrow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:58:56am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s a smartphone social media app.
The person arrested posted something about shooting every black person on campus.

In an America where the 2nd Amendment trumps the first, this would not be a problem…

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 4:59:03am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Thank you!

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:04:57am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

This whole Mizzou thing shows why Wolfe had to go. You poo-poo racism and racist acts and it emboldens the assholes. Quash it by threatening to expel those who proudly display their racism and hurt others. You want to be a racist? Fine, do it without a higher education.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:05:54am
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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:23:30am
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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:29:30am

Trump Releases His First Ads, And They’re Just As Bigoted And Obnoxious As You Expected (VIDEO)

Trump is going to brutally and quickly cut the head off of ISIS.

Make America great again, maybe greater than ever before.

Ugh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:30:41am

re: #157 WhatEVs

Trump Releases His First Ads, And They’re Just As Bigoted And Obnoxious As You Expected (VIDEO)

About time. We weren’t hearing enough about the man and his vision of America.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:31:08am

This is from Ron Fournier. Take that in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:43:38am

re: #159 WhatEVs

Read last night’s debate transcript

Read the candidates’ stump speeches/talking points

See much of a difference? I don’t.

Weak “debate”

They made it clear that they do not want a debate, they just want free air time to present their campaign ads.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:44:35am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:45:47am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They made it clear that they do not want a debate, they just want free air time to present their campaign ads.

Bingo. And today, to no surprise, the candidates and their sheeple are all claiming that last night’s “debate” went so well and was handled swimmingly by the moderators/shills.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:49:05am

Even politico is calling bullshit on last night’s “debate”:

The result was a debate that was less an encounter between challengers than a series of stump speeches, as candidates took advantage of the long 90-second answer times and often talked past the times-up bell tone, with the moderators seemed reluctant to rein them in.

Many of these mini-speeches ended with pre-scripted applause lines like Carly Fiorina proclaiming “We must take our government back,” while the lusty audience cheered every platitude.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:51:40am

It’s another day ending in Y. GOP budget/economic policies in action - this is what the GOP wants to do nationally. Slash taxes in the hope the economy takes off. Time and again, the fact is that the tax cuts do not do anything other than cause revenue shortfalls, higher deficits, and shift tax burdens from the rich to everyone else.

Meanwhile, you’ve got Gov. Christie who says that he wants to reduce the top tax rate (shocka!) all while eliminating all deductions other than the mortgage interest and charitable deductions.

Think on that one for a moment. It’s another shifting tax burden scheme, since the wealthy benefit most from the tax cut, and the deductions being eliminated currently help most Americans - particularly those in the middle class. So, who gets hit with the higher tax bill at the end of the day? You got it - those in the middle class and below.

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LastYearsMan  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:51:48am

re: #156 WhatEVs

I assume none of those “cute kid answers to test questions” are real (there are more and more of them all the time, it seems). Or am I being humorless and that’s part of the joke?

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:52:40am

Ok, this is pretty funny.

On Rand Paul’s performance:

The weasel on two legs started the night off in now-typical ignominy. First, he shrieked an incoherent “correction” about TPP as titans Trump and Fiorina did battle. Newsflash, you dung beetle, this isn’t Scholastic Bowl! As if that weren’t enough, the bottom-feeding grotesque attacked the military a day before Veteran’s Day. Anyone watching this debate didn’t see a candidate: they saw a malicious child who should be drawn and quartered. Hey Senator, next time you want to lecture on Syria, consider airdropping into Damascus with a target on your back! Just kidding, but seriously, the pomposity of this dung beetle was simply remarkable.

And this…hysterical!

Following the third Republican debate at the University of Colorado, Florida Senator and presidential hopeful Marco Rubio was spotted Wednesday night waiting patiently for his mother to pick him up like a good boy.
…
Rubio’s mother, Oriales Rubio, finally arrived at the venue in a green Ford Windstar to retrieve him. A parking lot attendant within earshot of the vehicle tells us Rubio “grumbled from the backseat that the other candidates were mean to him” just before asking if they could stop on the way home to get ice cream.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:55:05am

re: #165 LastYearsMan

I assume none of those “cute kid answers to test questions” are real (there are more and more of them all the time, it seems). Or am I being humorless and that’s part of the joke?

I don’t know if it’s real or not (kid’s do say the darnedest things) but I found it funny.

You’re not humorless, humor is in the eye of the beholder. See Sandler, Adam. ;-)

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:55:21am

A TV’s Frank two-fer

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:58:29am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 5:59:39am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

Not surprised at all. I wish I were.

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:00:24am

Good morning Lizards:

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:01:26am

re: #171 b.d.

lol. I think it is a wonderful idea but I am sure someone will take offense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:03:40am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

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My county is one of those red ones.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:04:47am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am in the grey area on the east side of PA. :\

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:12:09am

I didn’t see the debate since I was in transit at the time. Getting my mother out for a meal took a good bit of doing yesterday. Needed to be done, so I did it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:12:29am
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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:12:58am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t see the debate since I was in transit at the time. Getting my mother out for a meal took a good bit of doing yesterday. Needed to be done, so I did it.

You didn’t miss anything, and far better to spend time with family than to waste it trying to sort out the 1 fact from the millions of lies spewed forth during last night’s “debates”.

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Belafon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:13:33am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

What about “white privilege”?!!?!

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:15:23am

Ah, a live one. First Fox spews lies about job creation, and then someone comes in to defend the fact-free Fox job lies, without a single bit of proof. Only touchy-feelies.

Oh, and my proof? Since you ask, it’s the BLS and ADP employment surveys. Both of which are consistent with millions of jobs created.

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:18:02am

re: #179 lawhawk

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Ah, a live one. First Fox spews lies about job creation, and then someone comes in to defend the fact-free Fox job lies, without a single bit of proof. Only touchy-feelies.

Oh, and my proof? Since you ask, it’s the BLS and ADP employment surveys. Both of which are consistent with millions of jobs created.

If a Wingnut president had the jobs numbers that PBO had then they would be calling him The Jobs President

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:19:14am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Perhaps we should apply Hammurabi’s Code to him. ::: huge evil grin :::

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:20:15am

re: #179 lawhawk

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Ah, a live one. First Fox spews lies about job creation, and then someone comes in to defend the fact-free Fox job lies, without a single bit of proof. Only touchy-feelies.

Oh, and my proof? Since you ask, it’s the BLS and ADP employment surveys. Both of which are consistent with millions of jobs created.

Attacking someone’s strength as a weakness has been a peculiarly vile strategy that the baggers adopted during the Kerry campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:21:28am

pretty much sums up each candidate’s opinion last night of American workers:

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:22:42am

re: #178 Belafon

What about “white privilege”?!!?!

He has the privilege of being killed in a relatively painless fashion. The fitting punishment for a Nazi like that is to run them over with a M4 Sherman or a T-34. I’m not in favor of actually doing that, but that would be the most suitable punishment for his crimes.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:27:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:29:29am

satellite photo this morning.
That’s fog along the rivers.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:29:51am

re: #185 WhatEVs

Although Mr Adams does not want it, I will still thank him and all of his fellow veterans for their service to this country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:30:11am

re: #179 lawhawk

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Ah, a live one. First Fox spews lies about job creation, and then someone comes in to defend the fact-free Fox job lies, without a single bit of proof. Only touchy-feelies.

Oh, and my proof? Since you ask, it’s the BLS and ADP employment surveys. Both of which are consistent with millions of jobs created.

The fact of the matter is even with a hostile Congress, Obama has decreased unemployment. I remember Romney saying if we elected him, he’d get it down to 7%. Well it’s about 5% today. Obama will never get the credit he deserves from the right because giving Obama credit on anything may as well be praising Hitler.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:31:00am

re: #187 PhillyPretzel

Although Mr Adams does not want it, I will still thank him and all of his fellow veterans for their service to this country.

From what I know about you and your values, I don’t think you’re the person he’s directing his anger at.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:31:26am

You amateur genealogists might like to visit ancestry.com today. Access to military records is free until 11:59 pm tonight.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:32:02am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

True. He seems to painting all republicans with the same brush so …

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thedopefishlives  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:32:04am

Morning Lizardim.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:32:18am

re: #185 WhatEVs

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What food did Republicans cut for active or former military people? And the Congress has voted the Department of Veterans Affairs the monies it has requested consistently. Moreover, Republicans voted overwhelming in favor of the VA reform bill that passed last year.

No, it seems Mr. Adams is being a partisan hack.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:36:50am

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You amateur genealogists might like to visit ancestry.com today. Access to military records is free until 11:59 pm tonight.

My great great grandfather’s unit in the Civil War. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find any records on my grandfather’s service in Korea. I know he was in the army and the artillery and that’s it. He never went to reunions. He sometimes talked about going out to Utah (he served with a lot of LDS guys) to visit some of them but nothing ever came of it.
pacivilwarflags.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:38:35am

re: #191 PhillyPretzel

True. He seems to painting all republicans with the same brush so …

I think what it is the guy has a problem with people who thank Veterans on Veterans Day and talk about how they appreciate them but then go around and support policies or voting for politicians that involve cutting veterans benefits. What always bothered my grandfather about what have been called the “Chickenhawks” wasn’t that he saw them as cowards, war scared him too but I think he was bothered by those who had never seen the horrors of war being so cavalier about sending other people’s children into war.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:38:54am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

My great great grandfather’s unit in the Civil War. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find any records on my grandfather’s service in Korea. I know he was in the army and the artillery and that’s it. He never went to reunions. He sometimes talked about going out to Utah (he served with a lot of LDS guys) to visit some of them but nothing ever came of it.
pacivilwarflags.org

Can you get any of the records from the military directly?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:39:31am

I’m still getting Fairtax derp in my mentions. These are the stupidest people on earth.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:40:03am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

Can you get any of the records from the military directly?

No, not today. DoD civilian employees mostly have today off.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:40:24am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

Can you get any of the records from the military directly?

That’s not a bad idea really. I guess I should contact them. I’ve always wanted to know what unit he served with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:41:02am

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

No, not today. DoD civilian employees mostly have today off.

Yeah my mom is off today. I think he means in general though since I’ve been researching this for some time.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:41:38am

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

What food did Republicans cut for active or former military people? And the Congress has voted the Department of Veterans Affairs the monies it has requested consistently. Moreover, Republicans voted overwhelming in favor of the VA reform bill that passed last year.

No, it seems Mr. Adams is being a partisan hack.

Listen, Mr. Military Rah Rah Go Republicans. The GOP is fucking the military.

On food stamps.

VA funding.

Perhaps if you removed your cranium from your anus occasionally and looked at the reality that is the GOP, and I mean really looked at what they are doing, you might not be reflexively pro GOP bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:42:54am

WWII records are more readily available. I’ve found draft registrations for the first world war for all four great grandfathers and for the second two. I think after the age of 60, you no longer had to register for the draft. As my dad’s grandfathers were quite a bit older than my mom’s ergo no WWII draft registration for them. It’s too bad since the WWII ones are a little more detailed. They actually include a height and weight. It’s how I found out that I would tower over my great grandfather, only 5’4.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:43:28am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

Finally got rid of the Crowderheads from my timeline. What a bunch of derpers. Sheesh. Fairtax/flat taxers are economic illiterates on par with flat earthers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:44:27am

re: #196 Timothy Watson

Can you get any of the records from the military directly?

National Archives has all the military records

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:44:30am

re: #201 WhatEVs

Listen, Mr. Military Rah Rah Go Republicans. The GOP is fucking the military.

On food stamps.

VA funding.

Perhaps if you removed your cranium from your anus occasionally and looked at the reality that is the GOP, and I mean really looked at what they are doing, you might not be reflexively pro GOP bullshit.

I was going to point out that they have adamantly opposed benefits to illegal aliens who have served and I don’t care what your feelings on immigration are, that’s a load of shit. These people even though they’re not citizens enlist and some of them die for our country. Hell, one of the guys on the Iwo Jima flag photo, a possible distant kin of me was in fact a Czechoslovak immigrant, he did without American citizenship.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:44:43am

re: #203 lawhawk

Finally got rid of the Crowderheads from my timeline. What a bunch of derpers. Sheesh. Fairtax/flat taxers are economic illiterates on par with flat earthers.

Look where they get it. From the people who want to run our country. From the GOP itself and their ignominious candidates.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:45:19am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

WWII records are more readily available. I’ve found draft registrations for the first world war for all four great grandfathers and for the second two. I think after the age of 60, you no longer had to register for the draft. As my dad’s grandfathers were quite a bit older than my mom’s ergo no WWII draft registration for them. It’s too bad since the WWII ones are a little more detailed. They actually include a height and weight. It’s how I found out that I would tower over my great grandfather, only 5’4.

The records become available to the general public after a certain date, and I can’t remember off the top of my head when that is. It’s when they get cycled from the DoD to the National Archives. Otherwise, the records are available to immediate family members (defined as spouses or children) for the purposes of veterans’ benefits.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:45:32am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

There’s a big gaping hole in military records though. As a result of the NPRC fire in 1973, a bunch of records were lost:

Army Personnel discharged November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 80%
Air Force Personnel discharged September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964
(with names alphabetically after Hubbard, James E.) 75%

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:46:04am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

National Archives has all the military records

Shit I only know his name and branch. He really only opened up to me about his experience in the war towards the end of his life.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:46:11am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

My great great grandfather’s unit in the Civil War. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find any records on my grandfather’s service in Korea. I know he was in the army and the artillery and that’s it. He never went to reunions. He sometimes talked about going out to Utah (he served with a lot of LDS guys) to visit some of them but nothing ever came of it.
pacivilwarflags.org

Was your grandfather injured during Korea? Ancestry has a Korean War casualty list, plus other possible resources online. search.ancestry.com

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thedopefishlives  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:46:34am

re: #207 thedopefishlives

I looked all this up because my mother’s father served in Europe in WWII (I’ve linked his picture here several times over the past few Memorial Days and Veteran’s Days) and she has always wanted to have copies of his records. I just haven’t sat down with her to pull the trigger on the request yet.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:46:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:46:52am

re: #208 lawhawk

Thanks for the information. I was going to look up my dad’s records but from what you just mentioned it was up in smoke.

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Jayleia  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:47:22am

re: #68 teleskiguy

It may still a thing, apparently, according to wikipedia… en.wikipedia.org

But the Wet Planet beverage company that owned Jolt post-2009 is no longer a thing…still definitely a thing in Australia and Germany. I guess in Australia, they need a little more pep in their step since EVERYTHING WILL KILL YOU THERE…except maybe the koalas…unless they have a secret plan revolving around being CUTE…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:47:22am

re: #208 lawhawk

There’s a big gaping hole in military records though. As a result of the NPRC fire in 1973, a bunch of records were lost:

Army Personnel discharged November 1, 1912 to January 1, 1960 80%
Air Force Personnel discharged September 25, 1947 to January 1, 1964
(with names alphabetically after Hubbard, James E.) 75%

That’s probably why. That’s disappointing but as I am sure other amateur genealogists know but there was also the 1920 fire that destroyed much of the 1890 census records which if they were still intact would greatly aid me on my paternal side. And overseas there was one in Ireland during the Irish Civil War.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:47:46am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Was your grandfather injured during Korea? Ancestry has a Korean War casualty list, plus other possible resources online. search.ancestry.com

Not that I know of but I’ll give it a look. His brother in law (my great aunt’s husband) was though.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:47:54am

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

Thanks for the information. I was going to look up my dad’s records but from what you just mentioned it was up in smoke.

Possibly. They’ve been able to reconstruct partial records for some of them. You can always ask and see what they have.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:49:42am

re: #217 thedopefishlives

It is okay. I know my dad was in WWII in SHAEF HQ. I remember most of his stories and I think the unit history is still in his house.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:50:54am

re: #201 WhatEVs

Don’t fling insults at me. As for the SNAP program, the article notes proposals were made to keep waivers for veterans. Do you know if that proposal is still active or if it passed into law? Because a wavier for 60,000 people is doable when the amount being removed from the SNAP program would still be over 900,000.

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danarchy  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:54:14am

re: #185 WhatEVs

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Unfortunately veterans as a group vote republican by a large margin, so he clearly isn’t speaking for all veterans.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:54:21am

re: #218 PhillyPretzel

It is okay. I know my dad was in WWII in SHAEF HQ. I remember most of his stories and I think the unit history is still in his house.

My aunt and uncle have my grandfather’s military records, but they had a falling out with my family a few years back. I’ve been hesitant to try to contact them directly to see if I can get copies. Maybe when I’m home for Christmas, if I can get an opportunity.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:55:39am

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Don’t fling insults at me. As for the SNAP program, the article notes proposals were made to keep waivers for veterans. Do you know if that proposal is still active or if it passed into law? Because a wavier for 60,000 people is doable when the amount being removed from the SNAP program would still be over 900,000.

Point completely missed. As always.

Keep cheering your team as they continue to fuck everyone, including veterans. But don’t give us that bullshit that you support the military when you support those who, at every fucking stage, have done everything they can to not help American heroes…from those who serve in the military to the first responders on 9/11.

You seem like a smart guy whose head is firmly up his ass about the Republican party who has gone so far off the rails they are flying through a galaxy far, far away.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:56:06am

I think what bugs me though is when I see an image of a service member “telling” someone not to complain about their wages. Two thoughts about that. Service members are poorly paid too. And a lot of people who advocate for minimum wage increases strongly agree with that. Secondly, some of these people who want better wages are shocker veterans themselves. Same thing with the homeless. That homeless guy you shit on for being lazy and call a bum while you simultaneously have a post on Facebook about how proud and thankful to Vets you are. No one here is like that mind you but I think that’s the kind of mindset that pisses veterans like Mr. Adams.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:56:20am

re: #220 danarchy

Unfortunately veterans as a group vote republican by a large margin, so he clearly isn’t speaking for all veterans.

Of course not. But his facts are accurate. The GOP constantly and consistently votes against veterans.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 6:57:40am

re: #221 thedopefishlives

My aunt and uncle have my grandfather’s military records, but they had a falling out with my family a few years back. I’ve been hesitant to try to contact them directly to see if I can get copies. Maybe when I’m home for Christmas, if I can get an opportunity.

Wouldn’t hurt to try. Maybe the interest n your grandpa can help heal the rift.

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danarchy  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:05:45am

re: #224 WhatEVs

Of course not. But his facts are accurate. The GOP constantly and consistently votes against veterans.

I was referring more to the tweet that said this is how our veterans feel about the GOP. It is how a veteran feels, but judging by the fact that almost 60% of vets voted republican in 2012, he is basically railing against his fellow vets as much as anyone else.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:07:47am

re: #226 danarchy

I was referring more to the tweet that said this is how our veterans feel about the GOP. It is how a veteran feels, but judging by the fact that almost 60% of vets voted republican in 2012, he is basically railing against his fellow vets as much as anyone else.

In veterans as much as the populace as a whole. How many seniors vote GOP when what they want most is to kill both social security and medicare? How many women vote GOP knowing that they want to eliminate abortion, reduce access to birth control and think women belong in the kitchen - unless they toe the party line?

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:07:51am

The American people?

I’ll be here all day.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:08:10am

EDIT: This is good. From the article:

Although it was public servants, and certain communities such as indigenous Canadians and environmentalists, that felt the brunt of this problem, it may have spread further over time or, worse, co-opted more average citizens.

Whether by comfort-induced apathy, a flawed electoral system, or simply by the fact that zealots of all kinds will triumph when better-intentioned people go to sleep or are distracted, it is important to remember that, even in Canada, Harper was elected prime minister three times.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:10:41am

re: #228 lawhawk

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The American people?

I’ll be here all day.

Always is. But we also win since they won’t all be president.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:11:21am

re: #228 lawhawk

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The American people?

I’ll be here all day.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich

Kasich needed a big night and he got one — but in all the wrong ways. Kasich tried to mix it up with several candidates and almost always emerged the loser. Early on, Trump swatted his attacks aside. Much later, he tangled with Cruz on the wisdom of bailing out troubled banks. At one point during that exchange, Kasich appeared to suggest he could decide who should lose their deposits during a bank failure in a financial crisis. Such moments undercut Kasich’s central claim as a pragmatic executive. It was a very bad night for Kasich, and deeper questions are now likely to be asked about the viability of his candidacy.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:11:52am
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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:12:06am

And now it’s time for me to go.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:12:36am

re: #232 WhatEVs

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Well Happy Veterans Day to you too Mr. Wittman, now piss up a rope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:13:18am

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

It was a bad night for ALL of the candidates.
They just couldn’t stop making up stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:14:55am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was a bad night for ALL of the candidates.
They just couldn’t stop making up stuff.

Well we knew that when we saw the R next to their name. Anyhow I read a debate summary and I saw that the establishment’s golden boy Marco Rubio accused the President of showing more respect to the Ayatollah than Israeli PM. Rich Marco given that Bibi shows more respect to Glenn Beck and John Hagee types than he does POTUS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:15:10am

HURR HURR WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!! TEH WHITES IS BEING OPPRESSED!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:16:05am

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!! TEH WHITES IS BEING OPPRESSED!!!!

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People will find it on Facebook or social media anyhow. Doubt there’s too many Hunter Parks that attend Mizzou.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:17:56am
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:18:30am

Retweeted by Ben Carson:

If presidents are now to be chosen by how they’re trending on Google, I insist that Randy Quaid be sworn in early this afternoon at the latest.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:19:28am

re: #240 De Kolta Chair

Retweeted by Ben Carson:

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If presidents are now to be chosen by how they’re trending on Google, I insist that Randy Quaid be sworn in by early this afternoon at the latest.

No love for candidate Upskirt Amateur?

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:21:13am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

No love for candidate Upskirt Amateur?

It’s just that I think he’s more veep material. He could be Hillary’s Joe Biden.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:21:54am

re: #242 De Kolta Chair

It’s just that I think he’s more veep material. He could be Hillary’s Joe Biden.

Yes, lots of experience.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:22:26am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

Yes, lots of experience.

And you never know what he’s going to say next.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:22:41am

re: #244 De Kolta Chair

And you never know what he’s going to say.

or do.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:23:18am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

or do.

Are we both talking about Randy Quaid?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:23:24am

re: #239 lawhawk

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Christie drops out before or after the New Year?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:23:43am

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

Are we both talking about Randy Quaid?

I think so.

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sagehen  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:24:04am

re: #182 b.d.

Attacking someone’s strength as a weakness has been a peculiarly vile strategy that the baggers adopted during the Kerry campaign.

oh, they’ve been doing it way longer than that. Lee Atwater started it, Karl Rove perfected it.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:24:16am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I understand what you mean here, but this is a very… open-ended prediction. ;-)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:24:39am

re: #250 It’s on his hat!

I understand what you mean here, but this is a very… open-ended prediction. ;-)

Meant that as a question.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:24:58am

re: #226 danarchy

I was referring more to the tweet that said this is how our veterans feel about the GOP. It is how a veteran feels, but judging by the fact that almost 60% of vets voted republican in 2012, he is basically railing against his fellow vets as much as anyone else.

That 60% share is not that surprising if you filter the vet voters for age and gender. They might actually be voting about as TPGOP as their cohort. A couple years ago the recent presidential results showed military party affiliation tracked strongly with time-in-service. Senior enlisted and officers were the GOP voters.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:26:32am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I think so.

I don’t get the upskirt reference. Please, no photo links!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:26:39am

re: #249 sagehen

oh, they’ve been doing it way longer than that. Lee Atwater started it, Karl Rove perfected it.

The treatment of Kerry’s service alone is why I think Republican talk about respecting veterans is a mile wide but an inch deep. Okay, fine take issue with what he did afterwards but he had the right to protest the war A) and the mocking of the Purple Hearts was disgusting B), you never saw Clinton mock Dole’s arm problem that he had from his WWII injuries nor did you see Obama and the Dems mock McCain either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:27:08am

re: #253 De Kolta Chair

I don’t get the upskirt reference. Please, no photo links!

More of a reference to how much porn is out there on the internet, Nothing more, nothing less.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:27:48am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

The treatment of Kerry’s service alone is why I think Republican talk about respecting veterans is a mile wide but an inch deep. Okay, fine take issue with what he did afterwards but he had the right to protest the war A) and the mocking of the Purple Hearts was disgusting B), you never saw Clinton mock Dole’s arm problem that he had from his WWII injuries nor did you see Obama and the Dems mock McCain either.

Max Cleland.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:27:50am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

More of a reference to how much porn is out there on the internet, Nothing more, nothing less.

With that in mind, are you sure we’re not talking about Ben Carson? //

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:28:40am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Max Cleland.

Yep Ann Coulter in particular had some very disgusting words to say about him too and his service but she’s still popular in Republican circles.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:28:49am

re: #257 De Kolta Chair

With that in mind, are you sure we’re not talking about Ben Carson? //

Ha touche.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:29:58am

Morning!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:30:56am

re: #260 Stanley Sea Toujours

Morning!

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Escobar eh? //

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Decatur Deb  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:30:58am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Yep Ann Coulter in particular had some very disgusting words to say about him too and his service but she’s still popular in Republican circles.

If the GOP were sane and their positions arguable, the obscene treatment of Cleland would still make them permanent pariahs.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:31:52am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

If the GOP were sane and their positions arguable, the obscene treatment of Cleland would still make them permanent pariahs.

or Joe Walsh’s treatment of Tammy Duckworth. But I am sure we’d be here until next veterans day if we had to list all this.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:33:52am
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:33:54am

re: #232 WhatEVs

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Asked if he considered current benefits overly generous, Wittman replied: “I think it generous. I think it is fair for what our men and women have been asked to do.” Asked if he thought future service members would be any less dedicated, Wittman said he did not but, he believed it was fair to provide less generous benefits as long as the future members and their families understood the compensation package they were getting.

Translation: Nothing personal, it’s strictly business.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:36:58am

re: #264 WhatEVs

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Sigh. You know, I could deal with it if they were honest. I really could but the hiding behind the flag and furthermore claiming they care more about vets than Dems do but don’t fucking do shit like this and then do that. Be out and proud that your party would rather homeless veterans go without benefits than your wealthy donors have to pay more taxes.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:38:36am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

CCCCCOOOOOOWWWWAAAAAARRRRDDDDDDD.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:40:10am

How did this not break the internet?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:41:24am

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

How did this not break the internet?

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Lindsay will celebrate veterans day the same way h always does by advocating the creation of more combat veterans.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:41:39am

re: #268 De Kolta Chair

Is there a more completely oblivious cable news anchor in the world than Wolf Blitzer?

He has got to be on the spectrum.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:42:49am

re: #270 subterraneanhomesickalien

Is there a more completely oblivious cable news anchor in the world than Wolf Blitzer?

He has got to be on the spectrum.

Most people on the spectrum are at least of average intelligence. I think Wolf is what they call you know a moron.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:44:35am

So he’s a real life Brick Tamland?

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b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:44:36am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Most people on the spectrum are at least of average intelligence. I think Wolf is what they call you know a moron.

Yes, don’t make stupid assumptions about people on the spectrum.

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b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:45:06am

re: #272 subterraneanhomesickalien

So he’s a real life Brick Tamland?

I’m on the spectrum. I’m not stupid.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:46:52am

re: #240 De Kolta Chair

Retweeted by Ben Carson:

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If presidents are now to be chosen by how they’re trending on Google, I insist that Randy Quaid be sworn in early this afternoon at the latest.

I have it on good authority that MILF would get the nod.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:46:54am
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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:47:30am

I never assumed he was unintelligent, just completely oblivious to his surroundings and reality in general.

I would think that he is actually very intelligent, just lacks any sort of understanding of human emotions or the human experience in general.

More like an android if you will.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:48:45am

re: #274 b_sharp

You are taking offense at an insult that was never given.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:49:17am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Max Cleland.

To me that was the most disgusting display of scumbaggery politics in my lifetime.

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:50:16am

OUTRAGE! JUST A RED BANNER! NO FLAG! NO SOLDIERS! NO WARRY STUFF! WHAT AN INSULT!

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:51:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:51:36am

re: #279 Eventual Carrion

To me that was the most disgusting display of scumbaggery politics in my lifetime.

It really was. Cleland deserved better than that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:53:55am

re: #281 WhatEVs

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He’s a coward. But I am sure it’s only so the extremists won’t think mean thins about him and that’s how to lead.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:55:00am

NOT The Onion: Starbucks is ‘Abortion Coffee’

America’s favorite crusader against Jesus-hating coffee posts, then deletes, an amazing rant about Abortion Coffee. Luckily, the video has been preserved. Enjoy, friends.

Joshua Feuerstein | America loves it’s ABORTION COFFEE!

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:55:11am

re: #281 WhatEVs

If they wanted to see him completely suicide bomb his political career as a Republican candidate for any office outside of dog catcher, by giving an honest answer about how he feels about the kind of racist demagoguery being vomited out of Donald Trumps mouth then yes it would have been a good idea.

But then again those people want to make sure that their assumption that an establishment candidate would eventually take the over the primary field to come to fruition, and that they don’t in fact live in a bubble created by themselves that precludes any individual that lives in a reality outside of the DC media circus.

His candidacy is needed for that.

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b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:55:41am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Starbucks is ‘Abortion coffee’

America’s favorite crusader against Jesus-hating coffee posts, then deletes, an amazing rant about Abortion Coffee. Luckily, the video has been preserved. Enjoy, friends.

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This guy is a gas.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:56:44am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Starbucks is ‘Abortion coffee’

America’s favorite crusader against Jesus-hating coffee posts, then deletes, an amazing rant about Abortion Coffee. Luckily, the video has been preserved. Enjoy, friends.

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See, I thought they had sodomites semen in their coffee. I am glad to know they have abortion coffee instead since that sounds less gooey. Really though this guy needs help. He really is a poster child for why gun control policies should exist because he’s insane.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:57:32am

re: #286 b_sharp

This guy is a gas.

Hydrogen cyanide.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:57:59am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Starbucks is ‘Abortion coffee’

America’s favorite crusader against Jesus-hating coffee posts, then deletes, an amazing rant about Abortion Coffee. Luckily, the video has been preserved. Enjoy, friends.

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Wait until he finds out that it was Arab merchants who introduced coffee to Europe.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:58:57am

re: #289 Timothy Watson

Wait until he finds out that it was Arab merchants who introduced coffee to Europe.

Great, coffee Shariah. Thanks Obama.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:00:44am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

See, I thought they had sodomites semen in their coffee. I am glad to know they have abortion coffee instead since that sounds less gooey. Really though this guy needs help. He really is a poster child for why gun control policies should exist because he’s insane.

I love pumpkin spice sodomite semen on a cold November morning.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:01:03am

How do any of last night’s clowns get even a C let alone a B rating?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:01:21am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

I love pumpkin spice sodomite semen on a cold November morning.

Just like ma-ma and pa-pa used to brew on the old farm.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:01:38am

Sodomites Semen is the name of my next Death Metal band.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:02:21am

re: #294 subterraneanhomesickalien

Sodomites Semen is the name of my next Death Metal band.

That works. I’d add a itch though. Semen of Sodomites.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:02:53am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:03:50am

re: #294 subterraneanhomesickalien

Sodomites Semen is the name of my next Death Metal band.

Your debut album: Abortion Coffee

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:03:54am

So, who “won” last night’s debate?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:04:02am

re: #294 subterraneanhomesickalien

Sodomites Semen is the name of my next Death Metal band.

I wanna call our next band in Germany the “Cold Farmers”, in German slang a kalter Bauer is a semen stain on the bedsheets.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:04:17am

re: #296 Dr. Matt

Would that be among the #BenCarsonFacts we’ve come to know and loathe?

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:04:33am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

So, who “won” last night’s debate?

Hillary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:04:52am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

Your debut album: Abortion Coffee

Double abortion latte macchiato with a shot of sodomite syrup

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:05:07am

re: #294 subterraneanhomesickalien

Sodomites Semen is the name of my next Death Metal band.

Spilled Sodomite Semen, gives it that alliteration that is catchy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:05:41am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

So, who “won” last night’s debate?

They all won in the sense that they got what they want: not a debate but free airtime to broadcast their campaign ads and talking points.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:05:45am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:06:27am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

So, who “won” last night’s debate?

Those of us like me who skipped it.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:07:15am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

So, who “won” last night’s debate?

Those who hate-tweeted it.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:07:36am

My dream job:

Mounted Coast Guard Beach Patrol during World War II
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:07:36am

I like Ragegasm a lot for a band’s name. I kind of got the idea from a Simpsons episode where Homer had a Nirvana like band called Sadgasm. I like the word Ragegasm because it describes a lot of the rage I see on TCOT.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:08:24am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

I like Ragegasm a lot for a band’s name. I kind of got the idea from a Simpsons episode where Homer had a Nirvana like band called Sadgasm. I like the word Ragegasm because it describes a lot of the rage I see on TCOT.

Schadenfreudegasm!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:08:29am

re: #308 De Kolta Chair

My dream job:

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Where I vacationed in Delaware as a kid, you can still see towers. My Dad told me that the Navy or perhaps Coast Guard used them to be on the lookout for U-Boats.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:08:44am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Schadenfreudegasm!

That’s after I finally learn German. Nice touch with the exclamation point too.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:09:39am

The annotated debate, for those who missed it.

And it shows that Carson and the rest of the GOP clown show have only a tangential hold on reality.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:10:08am

Ragegasm sounds like it would be the name of a hipster alt-country folk band.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:11:38am

Hunter Park is the University of Missouri student who has been accused of making a “terroristic threats” against campus protesters. Hunter Park: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Number 6. OBAMA SUPPORTER

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:11:42am

re: #313 lawhawk

The annotated debate, for those who missed it.

And it shows that Carson and the rest of the GOP clown show have only a tangential hold on reality.

Carson’s against raising the minimum wage because he wants young people to learn how to work. And someone should have told him that when he got his jobs in the labs that he was paid much more than the average young worker of today is. He didn’t specifically step in shit like Marsha Blackburn did and claim he made only “2.10” which is well over 10 and close to 15 adjusted for inflation but he spread the same falsehood.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:12:23am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe people knew this one would be a sham. Nothing new but worn out stump speeches.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:12:36am

re: #314 subterraneanhomesickalien

Ragegasm sounds like it would be the name of a hipster alt-country folk band.

Nah, I always had the “Screamo” subgenre in mind. My hipster alt-country folk band’s name is Brooklyn Farmers.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:13:03am

Death Metal bands usually take on the name of some revolting medical condition or something involving a violent death.

Like Fistula or Anal Regurgitation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:17:04am

What I would love to see candidates talk about though is underemployment. I think the unpaid internship is one of the biggest scams out there. You work full time, you commute like everyone else, etc. I get that you don’t last long on the company payroll but yes absolutely interns should get a wage.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:17:49am

Speaking of bad ideas,

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gwangung  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:17:52am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

Hunter Park is the University of Missouri student who has been accused of making a “terroristic threats” against campus protesters. Hunter Park: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Number 6. OBAMA SUPPORTER

Countdown until someone says he’s a victim of the PC police…

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It's on his hat!  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:18:35am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

What I would love to see candidates talk about though is underemployment. I think the unpaid internship is one of the biggest scams out there. You work full time, you commute like everyone else, etc. I get that you don’t last long on the company payroll but yes absolutely interns should get a wage.

Isn’t that illegal in most states already? If an intern is doing useful work for the company, he/she has to be paid.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:18:46am

re: #321 CriticalDragon1177

Speaking of bad ideas,

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College shouldn’t be free but yeah let’s give out AR-15s.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:19:19am

re: #323 It’s on his hat!

Isn’t that illegal in most states already? If an intern is doing useful work for the company, he/she has to be paid.

I honestly don’t know. I just think from my own experience (I’ve had internships in both DC and VA) that interns are greatly underpaid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:19:50am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

College shouldn’t be free but yeah let’s give out AR-15s.

The Right to Bear a College Degree is not enshrined in our Constitution.

/

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:20:36am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Where I vacationed in Delaware as a kid, you can still see towers. My Dad told me that the Navy or perhaps Coast Guard used them to be on the lookout for U-Boats.

I thought it might be around there or further south in Chincoteague Bay, or as I like to call it The Mosquito Coast.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:21:15am

re: #322 gwangung

Countdown until someone says he’s a victim of the PC police…

Damn intolerant millenials who don’t tolerate death threats. // Seriously, I am sick of seeing people on my Facebook whine about this generation and how “intolerant” they are. Right because previous generations have been pillars of tolerance.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:21:52am

re: #327 De Kolta Chair

I thought it might be around there or further south in Chincoteague Bay, or as I like to call it The Mosquito Coast.

I think so but that photo of the beach made me think about those towers. Do you ride though? My dad’s folks raised horses for a long time.

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BeachDem  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:22:06am

re: #277 subterraneanhomesickalien

I never assumed he was unintelligent, just completely oblivious to his surroundings and reality in general.

I would think that he is actually very intelligent, just lacks any sort of understanding of human emotions or the human experience in general.

More like an android if you will.

Watch his Jeopardy appearance and you will see that he is, indeed, unintelligent.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:22:31am

re: #330 BeachDem

Watch his Jeopardy appearance and you will see that he is, indeed, unintelligent.

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I remember seeing the clips. Andy was quite impressive.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:22:32am

re: #232 WhatEVs

Asked if he considered current benefits overly generous, Wittman replied: “I think it generous. I think it is fair for what our men and women have been asked to do.”

Bastard doesn’t have a clue what veterans have been “asked” to do. To him it is just a monetary transaction, like the payments Vitter made to certain ladies of his acquaintance. He would probably try to leave it up to the free market if he could. He would be horrified at the result though. If it had been all about the money and benefits, I would not have landed my chopper in a red hot LZ for 100 times the amount. I did it though, and so did almost everyone else who was asked. I am not angry over my own situation, I have done pretty well on the whole (though it is hard to put a price tag on the nightmares I still have once in a while). I am angry about the millions who did much more and have nothing but the bemused contempt of worms like Wittman to show for it.
Obviously there is a limit to the resources that can be devoted to veterans. That amount should not be based on some money-grubbing jackass’s notion of fair value for services rendered though. It should be based on what is needed to heal and comfort the injured, and bring the warrior home from the war and back into society.

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:23:38am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

What I would love to see candidates talk about though is underemployment. I think the unpaid internship is one of the biggest scams out there. You work full time, you commute like everyone else, etc. I get that you don’t last long on the company payroll but yes absolutely interns should get a wage.

In theory the unpaid internship can be valid in some circumstances, if you’re not actually doing productive work but instead are learning about a certain industry or function. To me that’s the dividing line between internship and employment.

But you’re right that in practice it just opens up a huge loophole for unscrupulous actors to exploit, because the line is so blurred. It also places low-income people at a significant disadvantage because they can’t afford to take the more competitive/interesting internships.

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Jenner7  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:24:06am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

I think Rubio and Carly. They clearly lied through their teeth, but they sounded so good with their rehearsed speechified non answers.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:24:13am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

College shouldn’t be free but yeah let’s give out AR-15s.

I was once at a high school football in Georgia and they gave away a shotgun at half time.

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:24:54am

re: #321 CriticalDragon1177

Speaking of bad ideas,

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Is Steve going to perform a background check on his winner?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:25am

re: #333 iossarian

In theory the unpaid internship can be valid in some circumstances, if you’re not actually doing productive work but instead are learning about a certain industry or function. To me that’s the dividing line between internship and employment.

But you’re right that in practice it just opens up a huge loophole for unscrupulous actors to exploit, because the line is so blurred. It also places low-income people at a significant disadvantage because they can’t afford to take the more competitive/interesting internships.

You do make some good points. When I interned, I was doing a lot of the same work I would be doing if it was full time. The exact title of the position was “unpaid work experience.”

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KGxvi  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:34am

So, I tried to listen to the debate on my way home last night. The first answer from Trump made me turn the channel. I don’t understand how a politician can be taken serious when he says the things that Trump says - just completely divorced from reality.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:38am

re: #335 Dr. Matt

I was once at a high school football in Georgia and they gave away a shotgun at half time.

I believe it.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:46am

re: #284 Dr. Matt

I’ve heard of that guy. He is like something the Onion would make up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:50am

Just blocked some more Fairtax dumbshits. HURR HURR BUT U GET TO KEEP 100% OF ALL UR PAYCHECK!!!!1!!!!!

Teh Stupids hurts so much. Last night Huck doubled down on Teh Stupids when he started ranting and raving HURR HURR U THINKS GOOD RED BLOODED MURICANS IS GONNA JUST STOP SPENDING THERE MONEYS!!!!! HELL NO THEY NEVER STOPS BUYING MOAR SHIT!!!!!1!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:25:53am

re: #314 subterraneanhomesickalien

Ragegasm sounds like it would be the name of a hipster alt-country folk band.

“Gillian Welsh, Sufjan Stevens and Dar Williams are Ragegasm!”

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:26:03am

re: #232 WhatEVs

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Oh, look, it’s my asshole Congressman.

Too bad a Democrat can’t get 45% against him. (I did vote for him once in the GOP primary, but that was because a former militia member who repeatedly said the federal government was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing was running against him.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:26:28am

re: #342 De Kolta Chair

“Gillian Welsh, Sufjan Stevens and Dar Williams are Ragegasm!”

Cannot wait to see Gillian and Dave Rawlings next week.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:27:06am

re: #340 CriticalDragon1177

I’ve heard of that guy? He is like something the Onion would make up.

He’s the man child behind the red cup whinefest.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:28:40am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Not surprised. That question mark in my original comment was a typo by the way, but I fixed it.

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:29:56am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

You do make some good points. When I interned, I was doing a lot of the same work I would be doing if it was full time. The exact title of the position was “unpaid work experience.”

There are some interesting programs now through some colleges that pay the intern “salary” at a participating company or organization. So in theory it’s a win-win-win: the company gets an intern at no or very low cost, the student gets an internship and some income (opening it up to those from lower-income backgrounds) and the college gets to improve its work experience profile.

Unfortunately, the money has to come from somewhere, so it’s restricted to places with large endowments. Would be potentially a good model for states to fund.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:30:13am

re: #346 CriticalDragon1177

Not surprised. That question mark in my original comment was a typo by the way, but I fixed it.

All good. But yeah he seems like a caricature more than actual person.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:30:18am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Cannot wait to see Gillian and Dave Rawlings next week.

Outstanding!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:32:12am

re: #349 De Kolta Chair

Outstanding!!!

YEah I’ve never seen them live before. Should be a great show.

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lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:34:14am

Donald Trump, friend of the rich, and screw the poor:

Wages are too high. Yes. That’s what he said:

Real-estate tycoon Donald Trump argued during the Tuesday-night Fox Business Network debate that US wages are “too high” — and he didn’t back off the next morning when pressed.

“It’s a tough position politically,” Trump admitted during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries.”

This is the GOP position. Reduce the quality of life for everyone else because we have to compete.

That’s why Trump outsourced his clothing line to China and Mexico - to maximize his profits, while screwing Americans who might be tempted to buy his crap.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:34:53am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Cannot wait to see Gillian and Dave Rawlings next week.

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:36:11am

GOP to America:

Work harder, expect less in return. Pay no attention to the 100-ft yachts in the harbor.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:37:13am

re: #351 lawhawk

Donald Trump, friend of the rich, and screw the poor:

Wages are too high. Yes. That’s what he said:

More proof that conservatives ALWAYS vote against their best interests.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:38:11am

re: #351 lawhawk

Donald Trump, friend of the rich, and screw the poor:

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Wages are too high. Yes. That’s what he said:

This is the GOP position. Reduce the quality of life for everyone else because we have to compete.

That’s why Trump outsourced his clothing line to China and Mexico - to maximize his profits, while screwing Americans who might be tempted to buy his crap.

Then you can give away about 98% of your income from the past year. Oh?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:38:33am

re: #352 De Kolta Chair

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Nice hahha.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:39:05am

re: #354 Dr. Matt

Its more gullible people vote against their own best interest.

Conservatives have and always will be the political wing of the Aristocracy, they have just done a really good job of convincing a lot of gullible people that they aren’t.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:39:28am

GOP Outreach, Ladies Division:

GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee joked about his wife being a nag and criticized Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen in one fell swoop Tuesday night.

“My wife’s name is Janet,” Huckabee said during the Fox Business Network undercard debate. “And when you say Janet yellin’, I’m very familiar with what you mean.”

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:39:49am

re: #357 subterraneanhomesickalien

Its more gullible people vote against their own best interest.

Conservatives have and always will be the political wing of the Aristocracy, they have just done a really good job of convincing a lot of gullible people that they aren’t.

Indeed, they rail against “elites” all the while being an ideology for the elite and for the protection of the elite interests.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:40:21am

re: #358 De Kolta Chair

GOP Outreach, Ladies Division:

Clever Mike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:40:38am

I bought a brand new pair of walking shoes yesterday.
My first new shoe purchase in about 15 years (I absolutely hate shopping for shoes).
Cost was $60 (YIKES!)
I need to get out in the real world more often.

Or maybe not…

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Lidane  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:40:48am

Anyone got a spare irony meter? Mine just exploded:

Lastly, John Kasich is just an insufferable, angry man. Kasich tried to stand out by yelling and interrupting, but it did not work for him. He came across as a temper tantrum prone child while claiming to be the adult in the room by dismissing any new ideas.

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darthstar  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:41:26am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:41:33am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:41:47am

re: #362 Lidane

Anyone got a spare irony meter? Mine just exploded:

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Dismissing new ideas? Really because all I see is pretty much the same right wing rhetoric I’ve seen my entire life. Kasich is a jerk sure but unlike these other clowns he actually does seem to think outside the conservative sand box sometimes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:42:20am

Okay I’ll play but imagine if you will if Obama or Clinton said wages were too high.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:42:36am

re: #364 Dr. Matt

I wonder what brand of kool aid they are drinking. I want to avoid it.

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wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:42:59am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bought a brand new pair of walking shoes yesterday.
My first new shoe purchase in about 15 years (I absolutely hate shopping for shoes).
Cost was $60 (YIKES!)
I need to get out in the real world more often.

Or maybe not…

Useful, good-looking, or both?

$60 is not so bad just once every 15 years.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:43:12am

Didn’t John Kasich give up his show on Fox News so he could run for governor in Ohio?

Fuck, he would have probably had a better shot at the nomination at this point if he would have just stayed on TV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:43:42am

re: #364 Dr. Matt

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Really, they won’t be happy until all workers pay their employers for the privilege of being given the “dignity of work”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:44:04am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, they won’t be happy until all workers pay their employers for the privilege of being given the “dignity of work”.

or addressing them as “My lord.”

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:44:56am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

“My lord” only works on the other side of the pond.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:45:43am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s Feudalism by definition.

Most peasants had to supply their lords with a certain percentage of their yearly harvest in order to continue to live on the lords land in the by and by.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:45:48am

re: #372 PhillyPretzel

“My lord” only works on the other side of the pond.

Right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:45:51am

re: #368 wrenchwench

Useful, good-looking, or both?

$60 is not so bad just once every 15 years.

It’s an athletic walking shoe with a really nice lightly cushioned insole. Brand name is New Balance.
They were on sale as a clearance item.
Really comfortable.

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KGxvi  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:46:06am

re: #357 subterraneanhomesickalien

Conservatives, in the traditional sense, have generally been about maintaining the status quo (the whole “standing athwart history yelling stop” thing). So it makes sense that they would favor those in power. But as I mentioned yesterday, they’re playing a dangerous game with that unique brand of (resentment based) American populism. In the long run, that traditional prudence based conservativism and reactionary populism aren’t going to be able to co-exist.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:46:22am

re: #373 subterraneanhomesickalien

That’s Feudalism by definition.

Most peasants had to supply their lords with a certain percentage of their yearly harvest in order to continue to live on the lords land in the by and by.

Right, hence my joke. Modern American conservatism is noting but post-industrial feudalism.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:47:21am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

New Balance makes a very good walking shoe. I love them. LLBean sells them.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:47:28am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bought a brand new pair of walking shoes yesterday.
My first new shoe purchase in about 15 years (I absolutely hate shopping for shoes).
Cost was $60 (YIKES!)
I need to get out in the real world more often.

Or maybe not…

I used to get the same model (?) of New Balance shoes every couple years when mine wore out.

Then they discontinued the model. Bastards.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:47:47am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s an athletic walking shoe with a really nice lightly cushioned insole. Brand name is New Balance.
They were on sale as a clearance item.
Really comfortable.

Oh New Balances are good. I wear mostly Adidas now but NB were my brand for a copule years there.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:47:50am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Then you can give away about 98% of your income from the past year. Oh?

Oh, you silly person. Those aren’t wages…

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:47:58am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

or addressing them as “My lord.”

“M’lord”.

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KGxvi  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:48:17am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

you give yourself away when you say “my lord”, a commoner says “m’lord”…

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:48:20am
Benjamin Schwartz/The New Yorker
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:48:25am

re: #382 Timothy Watson

“M’lord”.

That’s right guv’nor.

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Archangelus  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:48:41am

re: #362 Lidane

Anyone got a spare irony meter? Mine just exploded:

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Mine’s experiencing sudden difficulties…

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KGxvi  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:48:44am

re: #382 Timothy Watson

curses! foiled again!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:49:07am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #373 subterraneanhomesickalien

Republicans think they are in the Capital of the Hunger Games, while the rest of America are part of districts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:49:27am

re: #378 PhillyPretzel

re: #379 Timothy Watson

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I know next to NOTHING about shoe brands.
Sounds like I lucked out with my choice.
:)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:49:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:50:35am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know next to NOTHING about shoe brands.
Sounds like I lucked out with my choice.
:)

Yeah you did good.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:50:56am

re: #368 wrenchwench

Useful, good-looking, or both?

$60 is not so bad just once every 15 years.

Shoes, in particular cycling or running shoes, are something that I’ve come to grips with having to spend a fair amount on if the fit is right. Nothing…absolutely nothing…ruins a ride or run like uncomfortable shoes.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:51:23am

re: #338 KGxvi

So, I tried to listen to the debate on my way home last night. The first answer from Trump made me turn the channel. I don’t understand how a politician can be taken serious when he says the things that Trump says - just completely divorced from reality.

Trump and Carson are taken seriously by a small section of Republicans (looks like no more than 25% for each of them). In a general election, they would be toast.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:51:30am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

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Working in a coal mine at the age of thirteen years old teaches kids values but you’ll have to excuse me, I have to write a check to pay for my son’s prep school. //

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:52:18am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

That’s right guv’nor.

My mother taught me to speak properly (or however the line goes).
Arya and Tywin “You’re too smart for your own good. “

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plansbandc  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:52:23am

re: #384 De Kolta Chair

Baby Hitler is adorbs. SMDH

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:52:36am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

Oh to be a chimney sweep in early Victorian England.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:53:13am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

or addressing them as “My lord.”

or “Massa”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:53:40am

re: #398 Eclectic Cyborg

or “Massa”.

That too.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:53:52am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Obviously there is a limit to the resources that can be devoted to veterans. That amount should not be based on some money-grubbing jackass’s notion of fair value for services rendered though. It should be based on what is needed to heal and comfort the injured, and bring the warrior home from the war and back into society.

This is where I have to disagree. If we bring in a new recruit, funding should be allocated to deal with the results of that new recruit - cradle to grave, as it were. If we start a war, funding should be allocated for worst-case scenarios. You should not have to chase down funding. Go to war with the funds you have, not the funds you don’t really give a shit about.

And thank you for your service! I am sorry it sometimes haunts your dreams.

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wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:54:11am

re: #392 Mike Lamb

Shoes, in particular cycling or running shoes, are something that I’ve come to grips with having to spend a fair amount on if the fit is right. Nothing…absolutely nothing…ruins a ride or run like uncomfortable shoes.

For me, fit sometimes goes by brand. I have never found a fit in a Nike, but do well with New Balance, Adidas, and Shimano.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:54:17am

Stand-up Philosopher was never a steady gig.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:54:53am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

Hunter Park is the University of Missouri student who has been accused of making a “terroristic threats” against campus protesters. Hunter Park: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Number 6. OBAMA SUPPORTER

What a pissant. His mother should be arrested for letting him out of her sight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:55:08am

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:56:36am

O_o

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:56:46am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets?

That’s what I don’t get it either. If we have enough money to send these guys to war and indeed blow up the world several times over, we should be able to give them the benefits they rightfully deserve and earned. The problem though is a certain thinks you can have a high defense budget and virtually no taxation. It doesn’t work that way.

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wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:57:22am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets?

Maybe their lobbyists aren’t well-funded enough.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:57:22am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Great, a national version of Arizona’s law.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:57:28am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets?

Vets don’t pay for their campaigns and give them cushy jobs after they leave Congress.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:58:06am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Cause the board of directors at Boeing gotta have at least three vacation homes including a villa in Catalan, you fucking commie!!!!!!

Anything else is just gauche as fuck.

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:58:39am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending companies owned by our supporters that happen to make military gear why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets struggling Americans who aren’t part of our inner circle?

It’s like one of those puzzle cubes where if you just hold it at the right angle it suddenly makes sense.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:58:49am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

You do make some good points. When I interned, I was doing a lot of the same work I would be doing if it was full time. The exact title of the position was “unpaid work experience.”

It’s completely exploitative. It should pay minimum wage because you are gaining experience. That you work for free for that experience is akin to slavery. If they value their intern program, show it. Pay people to show up and work. It’s not like they can’t fire an intern if they don’t do a good enough job, experience or not. Travel, gas, etc., all the same. I can see a paralegal gaining experience - at minimum wage. And there is a benefit to gaining experience. But, as the right likes to always say, one will get great pride from paid labor. So interns should be paid.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:58:51am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I think so but that photo of the beach made me think about those towers. Do you ride though? My dad’s folks raised horses for a long time.

We’ve camped out there a couple of times. Saw the famous ponies (can’t miss ‘em really) and lots of foxes!

And a gazillion mosquitoes.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:59:28am

re: #338 KGxvi

So, I tried to listen to the debate on my way home last night. The first answer from Trump made me turn the channel. I don’t understand how a politician can be taken serious when he says the things that Trump says - just completely divorced from reality.

Worse yet, people get paid too much gets ravenous applause from the idiots in the audience.

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b.d.  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:09am

Asking the younger people here at work the reason why Veteran’s Day is on 11/11 produces the expected results, at least I taught them something.

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Lidane  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:32am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: If we can find gajillions of dollars for defense spending why the fuck can’t we find money for our vets?

For the same reason we spend more than the next dozen or so countries COMBINED on our military and on defense, but Obama is somehow dismantling the military.

We have a lot of fucking morons in government.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:43am

As I mentioned last night, a recent study noted a surprising increase in mortality among middle aged whites, largely limited to those without college education. More suicide, more cirrhosis of the liver, more drug-related deaths. Other racial groups don’t show this increase, and other age groups don’t show it. While the increase is present all across America, it is worst in the South and the West.

Basically, these are Trump’s base. Angry, uneducated white people angry at their lot in life, who see their prospects fading, who are working harder for less, and face retirement with no savings.

And Trump just told them they make too much money.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:47am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, they won’t be happy until all workers pay their employers for the privilege of being given the “dignity of work”.

And then wonder why no one is buying their product. A consumer society cannot survive if the consumers can’t afford to consume. I think even China is figuring that out to some extent.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:01:29am

re: #412 WhatEVs

It’s completely exploitative. It should pay minimum wage because you are gaining experience. That you work for free for that experience is akin to slavery. If they value their intern program, show it. Pay people to show up and work. It’s not like they can’t fire an intern if they don’t do a good enough job, experience or not. Travel, gas, etc., all the same. I can see a paralegal gaining experience - at minimum wage. And there is a benefit to gaining experience. But, as the right likes to always say, one will get great pride from paid labor. So interns should be paid.

Hell this was my longest commute I’ve ever had. I got up at 5-5:30 in the morning to catch a bus that took me near a train station and then I had to catch a train and then I had to walk another .8 of a mile to get to the office. Valuable work experience sure but I think I should have been paid.

420
Skip Intro  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:00am

Another day, another big “fuck you” from the GOP.

House Republicans urge court to throw out net neutrality rules

arstechnica.com

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:03am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I think so but that photo of the beach made me think about those towers. Do you ride though? My dad’s folks raised horses for a long time.

Sorry, totally misread your question. No, I do not ride, but I did work at a stable for a couple of summers as a teen outside of Tombstone.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:15am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s an athletic walking shoe with a really nice lightly cushioned insole. Brand name is New Balance.
They were on sale as a clearance item.
Really comfortable.

My daughter always got New Balance for Cross Country running shoes. She liked them.

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b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:23am

We autistic people, are just like androids. Exactly like them.

Do I have to?

OK

///////////////

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:25am

re: #412 WhatEVs

I think there are moral gray areas when you get into charity work. Should our food pantry be paying the folks who volunteer their time? They’re working (and in fact gaining work experience with stock management etc.). Non-profit internships more generally are morally ambiguous in this way.

But as above I agree that the downsides of allowing unpaid work tend to outweigh the benefits, and the loopholes are just too big.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:02:30am
“We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries.”

How about rent? Is the rent too damned high Mr. Trump? As a landlord why don’t you lower it then?

Our wages are too high what the fuck! That’d be great if people like Trump actually wanted to help lower the cost of living to match their fucked up view that the lower and middle working class are making too much money. Meanwhile Trump lives in a gilded $100 million marble and gold penthouse literally patterned after Louis XIV palace at Versailles.

The modern GOP everyone.

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wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:03:25am

On first reading, I thought this was a joke. Now I’m afraid not:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:03:41am

re: #421 De Kolta Chair

Sorry, totally misread your question. No, I do not ride, but I did work at a stable for a couple of summers as a teen outside of Tombstone.

Not a problem. Very neat job.

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iossarian  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:03:57am

The unpaid internship/work experience quandary is also a powerful argument in favor of a guaranteed minimum income paid for by progressive taxation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:04:48am

re: #423 b_sharp

We autistic people, are just like androids. Exactly like them.

Do I have to?

OK

///////////////

I always related most to the opening passage from Ellison’s Invisible Man.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:05:17am

re: #425 goddamnedfrank

How about rent? Is the rent too damned high Mr. Trump? As a landlord why don’t you lower it then?

Our wages are too high what the fuck! That’d be great if people like Trump actually wanted to help lower the cost of living to match their fucked up view that the lower and middle working class are making too much money. Meanwhile Trump lives in a gilded $100 million marble and gold penthouse literally patterned after Louis XIV palace at Versailles.

The modern GOP everyone.

Wages as a percent of GDP are as low as they’ve ever been since we started collecting the data, while corporate profits as a percent of GDP are as high as they’ve ever been. Meanwhile, tax receipts as a percent of GDP are below historic averages.

It seems pretty clear what’s too high in America for competitiveness.

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wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:05:43am

re: #421 De Kolta Chair

Sorry, totally misread your question. No, I do not ride, but I did work at a stable for a couple of summers as a teen outside of Tombstone.

I was gonna say you must have hauled a lot of water, but they must have run a lot of hose.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:06:49am

I’d be more understanding about the non-paid internships if I saw more firms, agencies, etc take on the people they gave these experiences to and gave them a full time job. Maybe I am just salty because of my own experiences but I got told twice that I did a fantastic job at both of my internships including one I did two stints at and no full time work ever came of it. I’ve vowed after I got my paralegal certificate never to do internships again.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:07:19am

re: #431 wrenchwench

I was gonna say you must have hauled a lot of water, but they must have run a lot of hose.

Haven’t thought about it in years. I mostly remember the fun and not the work. Do you get to ride often?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:08:22am

And honestly as I have gotten at. Do interns not use the same roads with the same parking fees. Do their vehicles not require the same gas? Do they not need money too for food or shelter? I don’t expect you to pay me like you would someone more experienced but a wage, yes a wage would be more than adequate.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:11:49am

re: #400 WhatEVs

This is where I have to disagree. If we bring in a new recruit, funding should be allocated to deal with the results of that new recruit - cradle to grave, as it were. If we start a war, funding should be allocated for worst-case scenarios. You should not have to chase down funding. Go to war with the funds you have, not the funds you don’t really give a shit about.

And thank you for your service! I am sorry it sometimes haunts your dreams.

I am not talking about chasing down funds. I am merely recognizing the obvious fact that a call for unlimited funding would get nowhere. The amount will still have some kind of limit no matter when or how it is allocated. You’re right though that the long-term cost should be considered at the beginning and not dealt with as we go along. The military industrial complex and its pet politicians do not think about costs that they can put off on a generation that has not yet been born though. The billions spent on hardware get a lot of attention, but they are really only the beginning.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:11:55am

re: #423 b_sharp

Ok I’m sorry, but I really don’t care if I offended you.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:14:07am

re: #420 Skip Intro

Another day, another big “fuck you” from the GOP.

House Republicans urge court to throw out net neutrality rules

arstechnica.com

When they mentioned the internet last night at the GOP Lie Fest, I almost spit Pepsi out of my nose.

438
Archangelus  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:14:15am

Bit OT, but as expected yesterday the MST3K Kickstarter project has already crossed the one million mark in under 24 hours, and gaining speed as well. Think it’s safe to say this one’s gonna be effectively greenlit WAY before the deadline…

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:14:22am
Nick Anderson
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:14:30am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, they won’t be happy until all workers pay their employers for the privilege of being given the “dignity of work”.

The flip side of the Dignity of Work is the Dignity To Be Able To Support Your Family and Help Them Have a Better Life.

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darthstar  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:15:25am

re: #362 Lidane

Anyone got a spare irony meter? Mine just exploded:

[Embedded content]

Funny…my wife - fairly moderate liberal - thought Kasich sounded the most reasonable. In a general election, he’d be formidable.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:16:39am

re: #441 darthstar

Funny…my wife - fairly moderate liberal - thought Kasich sounded the most reasonable. In a general election, he’d be formidable.

Which is why Kasich isn’t leaving Columbus anytime soon except for debates.

443
WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:16:54am

re: #424 iossarian

I think there are moral gray areas when you get into charity work. Should our food pantry be paying the folks who volunteer their time? They’re working (and in fact gaining work experience with stock management etc.). Non-profit internships more generally are morally ambiguous in this way.

But as above I agree that the downsides of allowing unpaid work tend to outweigh the benefits, and the loopholes are just too big.

I don’t see charity work or volunteering as a paid thing at all. If one volunteers one’s time that is up that that person. An internship is very different when you are doing work for a For-Profit company. If you intern for a Not-For-Profit that should be exempted from paying people because that is, to me, akin to volunteering.

444
HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:18:41am

re: #443 WhatEVs

I don’t see charity work or volunteering as a paid thing at all. If one volunteers one’s time that is up that that person. An internship is very different when you are doing work for a For-Profit company. If you intern for a Not-For-Profit that should be exempted from paying people because that is, to me, akin to volunteering.

Right, volunteer work is something different entirely IMO. I’ve done some volunteer work. I look at volunteer work as doing something about causes or smething you like. I’ve done campaign work, I don’t expect to be paid for that ditto my basketball coaching kids. But an internship where I’m showing up at the same time as the others and pretty much doing al ot of the same work as a full time employee, Yeah I think I should be paid.

445
darthstar  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:19:09am

I did learn one thing last night…someone is taking the Benghazi 4 and turning them into shallow two dimensional characters in a movie who will (obviously) die in the end because of Hillary Clinton’s negligence. There was more flash-bang special effects in that trailer than I’ve seen in a while. I really hope they have Steven Seagal make a cameo. Might help.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:19:23am

The problem though remains with that loud segment of our society that gets more upset about the little guy wanting to get paid more than the big guy continuing to take. It’s because we all want to be that big guy on the top.

447
b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:19:57am

re: #436 subterraneanhomesickalien

Ok I’m sorry, but I really don’t care if I offended you.

I’m not offended, I’m saddened.

Your comments & beliefs are all too typical.

448
De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:20:30am

re: #438 Archangelus

Bit OT, but as expected yesterday the MST3K Kickstarter project has already crossed the one million mark in under 24 hours, and gaining speed as well. Think it’s safe to say this one’s gonna be effectively greenlit WAY before the deadline…

I’d forgotten about that, so thanks for the reminder. ;-)

$1,020,198
pledged of $2,000,000 goal

Sweet!

449
goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:20:35am

Trump and all the Republicans would also lower workplace safety and environmental regs obviously, because making America great again means making it look like China.

450
WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:20:57am

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel

I am not talking about chasing down funds. I am merely recognizing the obvious fact that a call for unlimited funding would get nowhere. The amount will still have some kind of limit no matter when or how it is allocated. You’re right though that the long-term cost should be considered at the beginning and not dealt with as we go along. The military industrial complex and its pet politicians do not think about costs that they can put off on a generation that has not yet been born though. The billions spent on hardware get a lot of attention, but they are really only the beginning.

I understand what you’re saying and agree that unlimited funding for anything is nothing but incentive to encourage fraud. It just infuriates me that people who serve our country are treated with such disrespect, lack of concern and outright hostility.

451
HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:21:40am

re: #449 goddamnedfrank

Trump and all the Republicans would also lower workplace safety and environmental regs obviously, because making America great again means making it look like China.

Embedded Image

Yep but at least businesses would be free of unburdensome regulations and we’d get free smog. //

452
WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:21:52am

re: #438 Archangelus

Bit OT, but as expected yesterday the MST3K Kickstarter project has already crossed the one million mark in under 24 hours, and gaining speed as well. Think it’s safe to say this one’s gonna be effectively greenlit WAY before the deadline…

So what are the first films to get the MST3K treatment?

Everyone?

453
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:25:02am

Clouds right now leading the way as a storm front moves in:

454
Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:25:36am

If it were up to Republicans and Lepertarians, the whole defense operation would be privatized. I wonder what Xe/Blackwater would have charged for a medevac flight into An Loc in 1972? As for the D-Day assault, Iwo Jima, or the 8th Air Force, forget it: There wasn’t enough money in the world to induce someone to do that, at least not someone who was capable of doing the job and not a drooling lunatic.

455
HappyWarrior  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:25:37am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clouds right now leading the way as a storm front moves in:

Embedded Image

Rained here the last two days. Blue skies today though.

456
Whack-A-Mole  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:26:12am

re: #452 WhatEVs

The new Terminator movie would be a good place to start. PLENTY to poke fun of there.

457
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:26:15am

re: #449 goddamnedfrank

Trump and all the Republicans would also lower workplace safety and environmental regs obviously, because making America great again means making it look like China.

[Embedded content]

needs moar cars…

458
De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:26:17am

re: #438 Archangelus

Bit OT, but as expected yesterday the MST3K Kickstarter project has already crossed the one million mark in under 24 hours, and gaining speed as well. Think it’s safe to say this one’s gonna be effectively greenlit WAY before the deadline…

Btw, Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett & Kevin Murphy at Rifftrax have been making some of the “old” MST3K episodes available again. Titles so far: Mitchell, The Pumaman, and The Final Sacrifice.

459
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:26:52am

re: #452 WhatEVs

So what are the first films to get the MST3K treatment?

Everyone?

SHARKNADO

460
subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:27:55am

re: #447 b_sharp

We’ll leave my apathy and your sadness where it lies, and that will be that then.

May we never speak of it again.

461
wrenchwench  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:27:55am

re: #433 De Kolta Chair

Haven’t thought about it in years. I mostly remember the fun and not the work. Do you get to ride often?

We went to a rental stable about once a year when I was a kid. Ranch California, before it got developed. Then we owned a horse for one summer. Bought him for $150, $15 per month to board in a pasture that became expensive homes (SE corner of State College Blvd. and Bastanchury Rd., in Fullerton, CA), so we wouldn’t have been able to keep him if he had survived longer. Back to once a year, usually, after that. (No more now, same reason as no more bike.)

462
De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:29:04am

re: #449 goddamnedfrank

Trump and all the Republicans would also lower workplace safety and environmental regs obviously, because making America great again means making it look like China.

Embedded Image

Let me guess, the folks in the photo are trying to escape high wages? //

463
subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:29:12am

re: #454 Shiplord Kirel

Are Lepers making a political comeback?

464
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:29:13am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

In the time it took me to load that picture to my PC and resize it, the clouds had spread all the way to the north and east and are serious mackerel clouds now…so big winds a’coming!

465
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:31:49am
466
De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:33:32am

re: #454 Shiplord Kirel

If it were up to Republicans and Lepertarians, the whole defense operation would be privatized.

And they’d probably throw Gen. George C. Marshall in prison for treason or something.

467
WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:36:04am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

SHARKNADO

That was my first choice, too! Along with Stonenado and Octoshark and all those really bad flicks.

468
Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:36:21am

If Blackwater or another contractor had been running the 8th Air Force in 1943:

Mercenary crewed B-17 approaches the coast of Europe. Gunner spots clouds of fighters and shit-storm of flak just ahead. Tells AC commander, “Damn, I don’t think this is worth the dough we were promised.”
AC commander responds, “It’s a 2 grand bonus,” then takes a look for himself. “Holy shit, let’s turn this crate around. I’d rather be broke!”

469
WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:36:52am

MST3K question…do they have to get permission to the rights of the original flick to do this?

470
Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:40:30am

re: #468 Shiplord Kirel

If Blackwater or another contractor had been running the 8th Air Force in 1943:

Mercenary crewed B-17 approaches the coast of Europe. Gunner spots clouds of fighters and shit-storm of flak just ahead. Tells AC commander, “Damn, I don’t think this is worth the dough we were promised.”
AC commander responds, “It’s a 2 grand bonus,” then takes a look for himself. “Holy shit, let’s turn this crate around. I’d rather be broke!”

They’d just submit a 30 Million dollar change order that needed to be paid before proceeding.

471
goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:46:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:47:23am

re: #449 goddamnedfrank

Trump and all the Republicans would also lower workplace safety and environmental regs obviously, because making America great again means making it look like China.

Embedded Image

We really shoot ourselves in the foot when we do business on “free market” terms with companies that neglect environmental and worker safety standards. For starters, we make ourselves less competitive by making our production facilities too expensive, secondly, we give the other countries no incentive to clean up their act.

I have no issue with competing with other countries on wages, it is our incentive to work smarter and more efficiently. But no amount of smart work can balance out the factors of environmental and worker safety costs.

473
lawhawk  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:47:31am

Courtesy of my twitter feed - posts that are immediately after each other:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:47:55am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Now put the strings back on…

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:49:36am

Great Failures in Signage #1

South Africa, circa mid-1980’s
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b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:50:28am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clouds right now leading the way as a storm front moves in:

Embedded Image

Those are Chemtrails.

That’s what I’ve learned on the Internets.

477
b_sharp  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:51:01am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

He’s wondering where the strings went.

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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:54:25am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:59:10am
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WhatEVs  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:01:11am

re: #479 goddamnedfrank

Fukkin A, man. Keep up the good work.

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Archangelus  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:04:29am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

SHARKNADO

I’d start with 2010’s Sharktopus (still can’t believe that’s actually a movie), seeing how Sharknado’s been joked to death while its “spiritual predecessor” remains largely unknown..

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Whack-A-Mole  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:42:07am

re: #467 WhatEVs

Yeah, they do. I remember reading an interview with Joel where he talked about some of the movies he really wanted to do but, knowing what was in store, the rights-holders wouldn’t give permission to do their films.

483
makeitstop  Nov 11, 2015 • 11:06:19am

re: #452 WhatEVs

So what are the first films to get the MST3K treatment?

Everyone?

EVERYONE!

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