Breitbart Commenters Cheer Probable Christmas Day Arson Attack on Houston Mosque

“The best Christmas present of all”
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On Christmas Day, a fire broke out at a mosque in southwest Houston, and the ATF has now confirmed it’s a probable case of arson. This is apparently the latest in a string of anti-Muslim hate crimes since the San Bernardino attack.

HOUSTON - An ATF spokesperson has confirmed the cause of a two-alarm fire at a southwest Houston mosque does appear to be suspicious, because the fire had multiple points of origin.

Investigators said they are looking through surveillance video to see if cameras captured a potential suspect.

At the far right website Andrew built, Breitbart “News,” this is a front page article today — and as usual, the right wing commenters are spewing toxic hate speech and ugly bigotry, alternating between applauding the attack and saying the Muslims who attend the mosque did it themselves.

Here’s a selection of their comments, to document what’s going on during Christmas season at one of the most popular conservative websites. I’ve hidden them by default, because they’re absolutely vile. There are now over a thousand comments in this vein.

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Lesson to learn from this: do not roast goat in middle of floor

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They don’t have a kitchen which might start a fire… Did anybody check their bomb/clock production room?

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Almost every single “hate crime” turns out to be a hoax, yet I know of none of the hoaxers ever being prosecuted. Instead, they get even more sympathy. When this turns out to be another hoax, the prosecution should be immediate deportation back to the sand pile.

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Don’t worry…when President Trump takes over, that’s exactly what’s going to happen.

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Let them burn, they are scum.

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All mosques should burn.

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Muslims are garbage

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Merry Christmas to the Elves that did the deed

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Maybe the smoke will kill the roaches.

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Either that or a camel kicked over the ash tray containing the lit post-coital cigarette her partner was smoking.

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Bulldozing and deporting would be better. Then we wouldn’t have to waste money doing the surveiliance.

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About time Americans begin fighting back, our Government damn sure isn’t.

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Good thing the Fire Department was able to put it out quickly we wouldn’t want any of their AK47’s or pipe bombs destroyed would we?

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Ha! Should just let burn and have a weenie roast

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Did anyone bring marshmallows? S’mores! Yum! :-)

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Gun powder from the pipe bombs they were working on in the Mosque accidentally ignited.

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And what do they expect will happen when they kill innocent people in this country?

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well, good news for a change.

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I bet the rags did this one themselves to try and gin up some sympathy.

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Any time a Mosque burns down I am happy.

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If the whole building was not destroyed, it was done by the moslems to raise sympathy.

Had some patriot done it, it would have been a better job.

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They play with fire, they get fire.

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The tragic part is no muslim was injured. That is a tragedy.

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Yep, and there’s every good reason to completely demolish ALL mosques. Tear ALL of them down. BAN ALL Muslims from our country. ALL of this evilness must go!

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Ban them. Any moneys and assets stay right here. Leave with the clothes on their backs. Don’t even allow them to leave with their wedding bands.

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Achmed probably lit up a cigarette after a romp with his favorite sheep and fell asleep with it lit.

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It’s the best Christmas present of all

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Yep. We need to speed things up BIGTIME. ALL Muslims need to be BANNED from our country, and ALL mosques need to be completely demolished ALL THE WAY to the ground!

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Can’t say it saddens me in anyway at all during this Christmas season.

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I hope it’s a trend that catches on!

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Burn them all down! !

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If we make Mecca radioactive, we will rid ourselves of them.

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ALL Muslims are murderers of the innocents, by COMMAND of the Quran. Burn this FOUL STENCH out of America. For 140 years this religion of murder has murdered every neighbor it has had, and then raped their daughters. “Death to Islam, or death to us all”, is the true reality.

Can’t you just feel the Christmas spirit?

It goes on and on like this, a seemingly endless deluge; and interspersed with these horrifying calls for violence are expressions of love and support for … you guessed it … Donald Trump. Trump has given these hateful knuckle-draggers free rein to express themselves.

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116 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:47:15am

These people are just passionate about America and want to seek approval from prominent candidates for the Presidency…

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Jenner7  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:52:22am

#Trumpeffect

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Jenner7  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:54:22am

Got up at 8 and got all my Christmas put away. Nope. I don’t mess around. I don’t want to be putting stuff away with a hangover from New Year’s Eve.

Now I get to go shopping. Woohoo. Hope everyone had a great Christmas. Have a great day!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:58:29am

This would never have happened if Obama hadn’t forced us all to be all political correctnessed for the past seven years…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:08:27pm

re: #3 Jenner7

Got up at 8 and got all my Christmas put away. Nope. I don’t mess around. I don’t want to be putting stuff away with a hangover from New Year’s Eve.

Now I get to go shopping. Woohoo. Hope everyone had a great Christmas. Have a great day!

I leave my Christmas lights and garland up all year.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:08:53pm

I’m not surprised at any of those comments. It’s what I expected from BreitFART!

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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:11:26pm

re: #3 Jenner7

Got up at 8 and got all my Christmas put away. Nope. I don’t mess around. I don’t want to be putting stuff away with a hangover from New Year’s Eve.

Now I get to go shopping. Woohoo. Hope everyone had a great Christmas. Have a great day!

I’d do that too if it were just me, but we traditionally keep things up until New Year’s Day and I think Mr. C. would secretly be disappointed if we put stuff away early. At least now that the kids are grown and gone we tuck a small tree into the corner rather than a bigger one in the middle of the living room.

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:11:55pm

Sigh…

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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:12:55pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon

I’m not surprised at any of those comments. It’s what I expected from BreitFART!

Nothing says good Christian like hate for others…
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:13:08pm

re: #8 ausador

Sigh…

Hussein. Really. A no-brainer…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:13:37pm

re: #8 ausador

Sigh…

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And those same assholes back Calgary Cruz for President.

Fuck them!!!!!!

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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:14:01pm

re: #9 calochortus

Nothing says good Christian like hate for others…
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KKKristian!!!!!

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:29:19pm

So that confederate flag S.C. finally removed from the capital?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:29:39pm

re: #9 calochortus

Nothing says good Christian like hate for others…
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It is a matter of self-identification. They identify with their nationality, race and religion. They have heard from numerous sources that Islam and Muslims are a threat to all and are responding to the threat the only way they can: through incoherent rage.

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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:36:04pm

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a matter of self-identification. They identify with their nationality, race and religion. They have heard from numerous sources that Islam and Muslims are a threat to all and are responding to the threat the only way they can: through incoherent rage.

Just like many people view sports. I get supporting “your” team and having a good time-a better time if they win than if they lose. I don’t get beating up supporters of the other team, or rioting when your team wins or loses. It’s a stupid excuse.

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bratwurst  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:48:29pm

And here I thought Ted Cruz had long sewn up the “fucking asshole” constituency:

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:55:18pm

Don’t know quite how to take this, blessing or threat?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:57:48pm

Shorter GOP: Peace and Goodwill towards men, Fuck That!

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:00:44pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Shorter GOP: Peace and Goodwill towards men, Fuck That!

Peace isn’t rewarding. Goodwill costs too much. The facts behind the shorter GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:00:51pm

re: #17 ausador

Story is apparently two years old.

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bratwurst  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:02:11pm

You could say this about pretty much any of the cowards on stage with Trump at the last debate:

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:05:48pm

re: #17 ausador

Don’t know quite how to take this, blessing or threat?

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I’d take it as a blessing. Anything that causes “I’m a peaceful Christian and I’ll kill you if you don’t follow God” types to blow their gasket is a good thing.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:06:00pm

Interesting. Just flipped on the TV to get some football noise in the background and saw a Taco Bell commercial for a Crunchwrap Slider. I wonder what part of the border and/or Mexico those come from?

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:15:29pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Interesting. Just flipped on the TV to get some football noise in the background and saw a Taco Bell commercial for a Crunchwrap Slider. I wonder what part of the border and/or Mexico those come from?

Castillo Blanco (white castle)?

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:15:32pm

79 Freakin’ degrees Fahrenheit on Dec 26th in Dallas.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:19:35pm

re: #21 bratwurst

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Silver spoons worry more about tarnish than the junk food which they carry.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:24:55pm

Got down to 38F this morning - had to turn on the heater. Frost warning out for tonight I think.

Still hovering around 58F and it’s after 1PM.

It’s warmer on the East coast than here down in ol’ Mexico way.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:29:04pm

Moderate santa-ana conditions:

wrh.noaa.gov

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:31:55pm

The popularity polls will probably be pretty rare until the week before the next “debate”, on Jan 14. I fully expect that Trump will maintain his lead in the popularity polls right up till then.

Trump will be front and center on stage, with Cruz on his left and Rubio on his right. The rest of the gang probably shouldn’t even be there.

What will Trump to do demonstrate his superior-being-ness to Cruz and Rubio?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:34:10pm

re: #16 bratwurst

And here I thought Ted Cruz had long sewn up the “fucking asshole” constituency:

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One asshole endorsing another!

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Sionainn  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:35:07pm

re: #25 Belafon

79 Freakin’ degrees Fahrenheit on Dec 26th in Dallas.

I wish it were that warm in Las Vegas. It’s in the 40s and with windchill, it’s worse. Unfortunately for my husband, he’s building something, so is outside cutting wood.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:35:38pm

re: #16 bratwurst

And here I thought Ted Cruz had long sewn up the “fucking asshole” constituency:

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Rubio spends less time than Cruz or Paul on Capitol Hill, but the people who have met him there are much more likely to like him. And Trey Gowdy being from South Carolina makes the endorsement even more important, since its an early primary state.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:37:04pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

When I saw the news blurb my thought was that Gowdy is doing this as part of his Capitol-hill strategy. Gowdy can make more friends by endorsing Rubio than he can by endorsing Cruz.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:38:27pm

Of course he does:

Trump claims credit for DHS deportation plan

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:45:27pm

re: #31 Sionainn

I wish it were that warm in Las Vegas. It’s in the 40s and with windchill, it’s worse. Unfortunately for my husband, he’s building something, so is outside cutting wood.

I’d trade with you. We’re supposed to be down in the 40s on Monday, which is much closer to normal. We’ve had a few days where it’s cool like it’s supposed to be, but it’s been significantly warmer than usual.

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:46:26pm

The weather in England is being weird too, and not in a good way.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:47:03pm

re: #34 freetoken

Of course he does:

Trump claims credit for DHS deportation plan

Sounds like the Onion needs to do an article about Trump claiming credit for keeping the tigers away.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:48:01pm

Increasing anti-Muslim bigotry-turned-violent is not just happening here in the US:

Muslim prayer hall in Corsica vandalised after attacks on firemen

Demonstrators ransacked a Muslim prayer hall and attempted to burn copies of the Koran on the French island of Corsica Friday, police said, following a night of violence that left two firefighters injured.

Tensions had mounted in Ajaccio on Christmas Day after two firefighters and a police officer were wounded overnight in Jardins de L’Empereur, a low-income neighbourhood of the city when they were “ambushed” by “several hooded youths”, authorities said.

On Friday afternoon around 150 people had gathered in front of police headquarters in the island’s capital in a show of support for the police and firefighters, officials said in a statement.

But some in that crowd broke away to join as many as 600 who headed for the housing estate where the violence took place the night before.

They shouted slogans in Corsican meaning “Arabs get out!” or “This is our home!”, an AFP correspondent reported.

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This is what gets conflated, on purpose in cases, here in the US by anti-Muslim bigots. While in Corsica it may be true that most Muslims are Arabs, that most certainly isn’t true around the world.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:53:23pm

It’s becoming the fashion among those whose ‘conservatism’ consists mostly of spewing filth on Twitter to use ‘Muslim’ as a general-purpose slur:

Fury of the right falls on Ryan

Outside the Beltway, the right is livid with new Speaker Paul Ryan’s trillion-dollar spending deal with Democrats.

Conservative pundit Ann Coulter says Ryan, just seven weeks on the job, is ripe for a primary challenge. “Paul Ryan Betrays America,” blared a headline on the conservative site breibart.com. And Twitter is littered with references to the Wisconsin Republican’s new “Muslim beard.”

Coulter is full of crap, of course, and a credible primary challenge against Paul Ryan is unlikely, given that Members of Congress are still holding their fire and Freedom Partners is still fully supporting Speaker Ryan. But the “Muslim beard” thing has given Paul Ryan something in common with Barack Obama:

As Ryan and Obama were putting the final touches on the spending deal, the now-bearded Speaker told the president that some on the right have accused him of being a Muslim, Al Hunt recounted in a Bloomberg View column.

“The president, who has long faced the same absurd allegation, chuckled,” Hunt wrote.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:53:45pm

First they did the puppies…

British couple celebrate after birth of first cloned puppy of its kind

A British couple have made history after a surrogate dog gave birth to the first cloned puppy of its kind on Boxing Day.

In the first case of its kind, the boxer puppy was cloned from the couple’s dead dog, Dylan, almost two weeks after it died. The previous limit for dog cloning was five days after death.

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A boxer on Boxing day.

What do we get for Guy Fawkes day?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:58:55pm

re: #40 freetoken

First they did the puppies…

British couple celebrate after birth of first cloned puppy of its kind

A boxer on Boxing day.

What do we get for Guy Fawkes day?

A fawkeser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:00:04pm

re: #36 ausador

The weather in England is being weird too, and not in a good way.

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Some of my favorite places I’ve visited and spent time over the years/decades, where friends of mine live:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:01:34pm

re: #40 freetoken

First they did the puppies…

British couple celebrate after birth of first cloned puppy of its kind

A boxer on Boxing day.

What do we get for Guy Fawkes day?

not enough updings for that pun…

I suggest again that Charles should have a “turbo” setting, i.e. the chance to apply 10x updings that can only be used once a week or so.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:01:43pm

Damn. Trump is already the bestest most greatest president ever!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:02:50pm

re: #21 bratwurst

Opinion: Jeb Bush more offended by Trump’s bad manners than by his bigoted ideas

his supporters love for his manners as much as for his ideas…

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plansbandc  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:07:46pm

re: #41 GlutenFreeJesus

A Fawkes Terrier.

Don’t forget to tip your waitress!

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:08:51pm

re: #37 Belafon

Sounds like the Onion needs to do an article about Trump claiming credit for keeping the tigers away.

Trump: “I’d like to thank the great writers at The Onion. They wrote a real nice article about me and how I am good for tigers. Trumps has always been good for tigers. I love great Tigers. I also like great truthful journalism like at The Onion. Great journalists. Great for Trump. Not like those liars that write bad stuff about me. Those are losers. Maybe we should turn the Tigers on the losers. Let the tigers go after those politically correct losers. I’d make such a great president. The tigers would vote for Trump!”

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:08:53pm

More use of arson as a political tool?

Fire at Bill Clinton’s childhood home being investigated as arson

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TedStriker  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:22:15pm

re: #46 plansbandc

A Fawkes Terrier.

Don’t forget to tip your waitress!

Comic Rimshot!

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:23:06pm

“Also it could help my campaign “

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:25:45pm

re: #50 ausador

Rubio Calls Paris Terrorist Attacks “A Positive Development” For Americans]

These guys have lost sight of the ability to engage brains before opening mouths…

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:25:48pm

re: #50 ausador

If that’s a recent photo, MR does not look well. Money stress?

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:27:00pm

Quiet will the holiday period be,
though outrages
online
will pour like egg nog at an upper-East Side apartment party
attended by all the very intelligent people
who know better
than the
online
ragers
but still are powerless in the face of the know-nothing swarm.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:28:00pm

re: #50 ausador

His emerging comb-over only emphasizes that he is going bald.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:32:01pm

re: #50 ausador

Call me crazy but I don’t consider the person whose closing paragraph opens with “The Florida Senator is a Machiavellian opportunist” as a reliable reporter. What Rubio meant was that the Paris attacks are the kind of shock needed to convince the public that the threat from Daesh is real.

That piece is straight up preaching to the liberal choir, and as a non-liberal I found it to be just another hatchet job by a hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:35:48pm

good freaking grief…

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:35:49pm

Rubio is a putz. He so often states things in cumbersome and uncomfortable ways. He is such a robot, whatever he is fed pops out of his mouth like a print out. Data in, data out…but since it isn’t from the heart or his own thoughts it is just worthless pablum.

I don’t get it. He is everything all the conservatives hated about Obama with no charisma, oratory skills or human feeling. How is he even a serious candidate? He wouldn’t be if there were any real serious Republican candidates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:38:24pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Call me crazy but I don’t consider the person whose closing paragraph opens with “The Florida Senator is a Machiavellian opportunist” as a reliable reporter. What Rubio meant was that the Paris attacks are the kind of shock needed to convince the public that the threat from Daesh is real.

That piece is straight up preaching to the liberal choir, and as a non-liberal I found it to be just another hatchet job by a hack.

Granted, it was a very partisan piece, but imagine the reaction to a foreign politician making a similar statement about the 9/11 attacks.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:38:47pm

re: #57 ObserverArt

How is he even a serious candidate? He wouldn’t be if there were any real serious Republican candidates.

Note that Rubio is a distant 3rd.

Behind those two real serious candidates, Trump and Cruz.

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prairiefire  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:42:05pm

re: #53 freetoken

T.S. Freetoken

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:42:45pm

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Granted, it was a very partisan piece, but imagine the reaction to a foreign politician making a similar statement about the 9/11 attacks.

That would be more like figuring out the French reaction to what Sen. Rubio said, and I didn’t notice any such reaction. That piece is over a month old, so if Rubio’s words were going to stir something up they would have done so by now.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:43:08pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Call me crazy but I don’t consider the person whose closing paragraph opens with “The Florida Senator is a Machiavellian opportunist” as a reliable reporter. What Rubio meant was that the Paris attacks are the kind of shock needed to convince the public that the threat from Daesh is real.

That piece is straight up preaching to the liberal choir, and as a non-liberal I found it to be just another hatchet job by a hack.

Marco is god to you, we know it, you know it, and as you are a self admitted political hack you disqualify yourself from any reality about Rubio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:43:52pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Call me crazy but I don’t consider the person whose closing paragraph opens with “The Florida Senator is a Machiavellian opportunist” as a reliable reporter. What Rubio meant was that the Paris attacks are the kind of shock needed to convince the public that the threat from Daesh is real.

That piece is straight up preaching to the liberal choir, and as a non-liberal I found it to be just another hatchet job by a hack.

Well, I suppose you think CBS isn’t reliable either:
Marco Rubio: Paris Attacks, 9/11 Part Of God’s Plan

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:44:17pm

Rubio : Leadership :: Oldsmobile : Automobile Fashion

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:45:08pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Theodicy throws them every time.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:46:05pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

That would be more like figuring out the French reaction to what Sen. Rubio said, and I didn’t notice any such reaction. That piece is over a month old, so if Rubio’s words were going to stir something up they would have done so by now.

The French probably did some political weighing of his words and determined there was no reason to get upset by something so light in weight. The French have been around as you know. I think they know what to get upset about and what is comedy.

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nkdee  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:50:38pm

re: #35 Belafon

i have been sitting around here in Ohio with my windows open. We had a little snow flurry a couple weeks ago that lasted about ten minutes. Other than that….no snow and MUCH warmer than usual.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:51:57pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I suppose you think CBS isn’t reliable either:
Marco Rubio: Paris Attacks, 9/11 Part Of God’s Plan

I think he said the following:

Speaking before supporters during a campaign stop in Iowa last week, the Republican presidential hopeful said he was asked previously where was God during the 9/11 attacks and the recent terror attacks in Paris. Rubio responded that God is where he always is - “on the throne in heaven.”

“The question was how could God allow these bad things to happen? It always challenges us to understand that God’s ways are not our ways,” Rubio said. “What we may interpret as bad, and most certainly is in the case of Paris or 9/11, even that is part of a broader plan for the universe and for our lives that we’re just not going to know the answer to. God’s ways are not our ways.”

Rubio told the crowd that people may not understand why God allows pain into their lives, but that it’s just all part of his plan.

“Sometimes God does allow pain into our lives for reasons that we don’t understand, that we resent, that we get angry about, but it’s for a reason that one day it will make sense, just not now, and that’s where faith comes in,” the Florida senator said. “You are allowed to believe that we are the children of an all-powerful God, that everything that happens is part of his plan and that our job is to be partners and cooperate in his plan for our life.”

What Sen. Rubio said was entirely within the Christian tradition and not in my mind problematic. I’ve got get going, so I’ll leave you with a Bible quote:

Amos 3:6: Shall the trumpet be blown in a city, and the people not be afraid? Shall evil befall a city, and Jehovah hath not done it?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:52:00pm
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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:52:34pm

Why, on a cold and wintry night on February 1st, will any Iowan want to venture out into the snow and ice to go stand in a room, clustered around a pole with some candidate’s name on it?

It’s all very quaint and all, but there has to be a better way for a democracy to pick its leaders.

Google has the capability, through Google Hangouts, to host thousands of people simultaneously, livestreaming video interactions.

Sure, some of the more rural in Iowa will not have good internet connection, but most of those folk turning out on 1 Feb probably do have decent internet connections.

The Banks and Credit Card companies have long figured out how to do secure procurements online.

It seems like the political parties could host real time, online digital caucuses - call them iCaucus if one needs a catchy name - where many more people could “gather” electronically, and where secure votes could be cast.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:58:24pm

“iCaucus” - hmm… I wonder if that is trademark-able…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:58:29pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

I think he said the following:

What Sen. Rubio said was entirely within the Christian tradition and not in my mind problematic. I’ve got get going, so I’ll leave you with a Bible quote:

Amos 3:6: Shall the trumpet be blown in a city, and the people not be afraid? Shall evil befall a city, and Jehovah hath not done it?

LOLOLOLOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:04:11pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

I think he said the following:

What Sen. Rubio said was entirely within the Christian tradition and not in my mind problematic. I’ve got get going, so I’ll leave you with a Bible quote:

There are a lot of things in the Christian tradition that can be problematic if they are taken out of context and used to foster an idiotic approach to national security.

All these people have learned from the Paris attacks is that Islam and Muslims = threat to America. And we have seen what the knee-jerk reaction has been to that perceived threat.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:04:38pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

No, like every other Republican, they see it as a good thing to persecute Muslims.

I have yet to see a Republican risk themselves or there career, and speak out against the bigotry. Not even my friend in DC. She will not say anything publicly.

Holidays are the worst for me, and as good as Doctor Who was last night, it only barely helps.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:07:03pm

re: #74 The War TARDIS

I have yet to see a Republican risk themselves or there career, and speak out against the bigotry. Not even my friend in DC. She will not say anything publicly. I

Some years ago, I saw Chris Christie stand up to Islamophobes who criticized him for naming a Muslim to a judicial post. It was then and there that I knew he stood no chance of winning the GOP nomination…

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The War TARDIS  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:08:44pm

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not good enough from her, and not good enough from him either.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:08:48pm

re: #62 ObserverArt

Marco is god to you, we know it, you know it, and as you are a self admitted political hack you disqualify yourself from any reality about Rubio.

Hey Dark. Thanks for the downding. I’d like to know though, what I said that wasn’t true.

I hope you realize a downding confirms my comment.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:12:09pm

She has said how much she hates Trump, and will refuse to vote for him. She has also tried to get me to be more compromising, saying she like many of my ideas, and wishes I could give up the past, saying I could be good for the country.

I still can’t see Republicans, most of the time, as human, so that may be a while.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:13:05pm

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Some years ago, I saw Chris Christie stand up to Islamophobes who criticized him for naming a Muslim to a judicial post. It was then and there that I knew he stood no chance of winning the GOP nomination…

The real question now is: if given the chance would Christie name a Muslim to any political posts or judicial posts in New Jersey from now until he is either the GOP candidate or drops out of the running?

Anyone for a guess?

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Skip Intro  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:13:59pm

Odd El Nino we’re having here in California. It must be dropping a very dry rain because there’s a 1200 acre brush fire burning along the Ventura coast as I type.

I always thought an El Nino was supposed to bring rain, not fire.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:14:44pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Next Rubio quote from the same article:

“I hope that our next president is someone that relies deeply in their faith. The job is so great that no mere mortal has enough wisdom on their own to confront the challenges and the responsibilities that are put upon the leader of the free world, and so most certainly I hope we have our next president as someone infused by the spirit, who seeks always the guidance of our creator in all decisions,” he said.

This ingrown political religion that candidates use to sell themselves—we need piety…hey! I’m pious—is why this stuff is creepy and gross because there’s such an obvious bending of the world, a cosmic shootist’s fallacy. God has a plan, but the hegemons of wingnut-dom get to read the entrails, tea leaves, and clouds to tell you how any event fits into it: coincidentally, it’s that those preachers and politicians get more power, and use that power to make other people comply. Also, bomb Iran.

It’s also gross because in it’s construction—the next president will be pious—we see how exclusionary the political religion is. Because the only real “piety” is piety that is orthodox to their mishmash of political beliefs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:32:15pm

re: #79 ObserverArt

The real question now is: if given the chance would Christie name a Muslim to any political posts or judicial posts in New Jersey from now until he is either the GOP candidate or drops out of the running?

Anyone for a guess?

There was a time when CC seemed one of the more reasonable candidates: he was remarkably bipartisan in working with Obama on hurricane Sandy relief, stood up to islamophobes and did not seem to be ideologically hamstrung.

But his sanity is only relative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:33:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:35:00pm
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BeachDem  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:35:03pm

re: #81 The Ghost of a Flea

Next Rubio quote from the same article:

This ingrown political religion that candidates use to sell themselves—we need piety…hey! I’m pious—is why this stuff is creepy and gross because there’s such an obvious bending of the world, a cosmic shootist’s fallacy. God has a plan, but the hegemons of wingnut-dom get to read the entrails, tea leaves, and clouds to tell you how any event fits into it: coincidentally, it’s that those preachers and politicians get more power, and use that power to make other people comply. Also, bomb Iran.

It’s also gross because in it’s construction—the next president will be pious—we see how exclusionary the political religion is. Because the only real “piety” is piety that is orthodox to their mishmash of political beliefs.

And, not to be snarky, but Marco, I hope our next president is someone WHO understands subject/verb agreement and other grammatical constructs.
/

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:40:45pm

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when CC seemed one of the more reasonable candidates: he was remarkably bipartisan in working with Obama on hurricane Sandy relief, stood up to islamophobes and did not seem to be ideologically hamstrung.

But his sanity is only relative.

Chris Christie is trying to appeal to a new crowd, so he’s altered his performance.

Now look at how he and the other GOP candidates use common rhetoric, and extrapolate what their anticipated “audience” wants.

Relative to the standard of “I want a new job and have to get votes to acquire it” Christy is…sane. But what is audience wants is…well, it’s not insane, but it is stupid and angry.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:42:29pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:47:02pm

Republicans have something new to look forward to.

Vladimir Putin calendar with president in different pose each month goes on sale in Russia

When is Trump going to do a topless calendar?

Also,

While Russian media described the scent as one reminiscent of the forest – with the smell of pines and fir cones – some commentators joked that it smelled more like sanctions, or, as one put it, “gunpowder, blood and oil.”

telegraph.co.uk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:52:20pm

re: #86 The Ghost of a Flea

No I’m pretty sure it’s insane.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:52:50pm

I just went outside and noticed that we have moths circling our porch light.

On the day after Christmas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:53:27pm

re: #88 Skip Intro

I predict a run on Putin calendars among wingnuts.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:54:41pm
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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:55:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:01:34pm

Snowpocalypse is on in Lubbock. No white stuff yet, but we do have 30-40 mph winds, solid, fast moving cloud cover, and rapidly falling temperatures (it was 55 2 hours ago, 31 now). First snowfall expected in an hour or so, 5-9 inches by morning.
The yokel media are naturally spreading fear, panic and click bait everywhere. I guess they expect avalanches to block the wagon trains which will then fall easy prey to marauding Comanches. Avalanches in Lubbock? Hey, the local paper had to get its name from somewhere. Lubbock Avalanche-Journal: Lubbock Online

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:02:30pm

Later folks. Stay safe Texans! And stay safe anyone in for blizzard conditions. What strange weather this end of the year. The weather map is a bit like the old comedy/tragedy faces in the theaters and openings of some of the old time movies. Mom Nature’s playing all of us.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:02:53pm

re: #93 jaunte

We’ve got tornado warning sirens going off in the North Dallas/Addison area right now. From the look of the Doppler radar, it’s going to path right over me.

And the Emergency Alert system just kicked in on all channels on my cable.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:03:31pm

re: #96 Bill and Opus for 2016!

We’ve got tornado warning sirens going off in the North Dallas/Addison area right now. From the look of the Doppler radar, it’s going to path right over me.

And the Emergency Alert system just kicked in on all channels on my cable.

Stay safe!

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:04:27pm

re: #96 Bill and Opus for 2016!

We’ve got tornado warning sirens going off in the North Dallas/Addison area right now. From the look of the Doppler radar, it’s going to path right over me.

And the Emergency Alert system just kicked in on all channels on my cable.

A system designed to assure you don’t die peacefully in your sleep.

(The damage from yesterday’s Birmingham F2 was minimal, though the entire storm system is at 18 dead and counting.)

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:06:10pm

Watching local news - Tornado on the ground in Waxahachie (20 miles south of Dallas) - that is the second wave that will hit Dallas County in about 25-30 minutes.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:07:37pm

Tropical here outside Austin. Winds picking up here.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:07:38pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:15:30pm

Tornado on the ground in Glenn Heights. Chaser cam

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:17:19pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:17:54pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

Odd El Nino we’re having here in California. It must be dropping a very dry rain because there’s a 1200 acre brush fire burning along the Ventura coast as I type.

I always thought an El Nino was supposed to bring rain, not fire.

And here in Mid Wilshire the winds are whipping so strong that the palm trees on Normadie Avenue are doing the twist!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:18:14pm
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The War TARDIS  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:19:09pm

Hey, who here is on Twitter, and does messaging. My mom and dad and doggie are in the warning area.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:19:55pm

Tornado debris falling on I-35 east of DeSoto, TX

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:21:15pm

re: #96 Bill and Opus for 2016!

North Dallas tornado warning has been cancelled, so at least I’m out of the woods for a little while. The one to the south has done some significant damage to the Lancaster and DeSoto areas. Images of houses that were completely destroyed are starting to come in.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:21:20pm

re: #88 Skip Intro

Republicans have something new to look forward to.

Vladimir Putin calendar with president in different pose each month goes on sale in Russia

When is Trump going to do a topless calendar?

Also,

[Embedded content]

telegraph.co.uk

I’m sure of Arnold is instructing Donald in the art of steroid cycling!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:22:44pm

re: #108 Bill and Opus for 2016!

North Dallas tornado warning has been cancelled, so at least I’m out of the woods for a little while. The one to the south has done some significant damage to the Lancaster and DeSoto areas. Images of houses that were completely destroyed are starting to come in.

MrBWS’s brother lives in Mesquite. Looks like bumpy weather headed there next.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:24:15pm

re: #108 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Good. Parents were in that area.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:27:34pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS’s brother lives in Mesquite. Looks like bumpy weather headed there next.

I’m in Rockwall, to the east of Mesquite. So far nothing on the ham radio from the storm chasers. They haven’t been activated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:30:26pm

re: #112 Belafon

I’m in Rockwall, to the east of Mesquite. So far nothing on the ham radio from the storm chasers. They haven’t been activated.

Good. Mesquite is close to the east edge of the warning box. Hoping that’s as close as it gets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:32:34pm

seeing reports of significant damage in Glenn Heights, TX

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Shimshon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:25:56pm

The right wing since Trump came to the scene traded their dog whistles for bullhorns.

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Shimshon  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:13:29pm

re: #96 Bill and Opus for 2016!

We’ve got tornado warning sirens going off in the North Dallas/Addison area right now. From the look of the Doppler radar, it’s going to path right over me.

And the Emergency Alert system just kicked in on all channels on my cable.

Ill pray for y’all.


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