Breaking: CA Authorities Raid Home of Anti-Planned Parenthood Operative David Daleiden

Right wing anti-choice smear merchant now in hot water in California
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Center for Medical Progress head David Daleiden’s dishonest scheme to destroy Planned Parenthood continues to fall apart; his home in Orange County was raided today and computers and hard drives were seized by the California Department of Justice.

The National Abortion Federation, a professional organization for abortion providers that was also targeted in Daleiden’s videos, lauded news of the raid.

“We fully support a thorough investigation into the activities perpetrated by David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress,” president Vicki Saporta said in a statement. “As the evidence has shown in our case, he engaged in a long-running criminal conspiracy. His actions are not without consequences.”

Saporta said the videos have led to a spike in threats and violence against abortion clinics.

“David Daleiden’s lies are catching up with him,” Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Erica Sackin said in a statement. “The only people who engaged in wrongdoing are the extremists who broke multiple laws to spread lies about Planned Parenthood — and it looks like they’re finally being held accountable.”

Also see
How anti-abortion activists used undercover Planned Parenthood videos to further a political cause - Los Angeles Times

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236 comments
1
Kragar  Apr 5, 2016 • 9:52:35pm

Fraud is a hell of a crime

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 9:52:51pm

Where the 1st Amendment is law might be the hardest place in the world to make a case like this stick, just in principle. Watch California win it.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2016 • 9:52:58pm

I’m sure that punk removed everything of consequence.

But then again, both he and Chuck seem to think they’re invincible.

4
ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2016 • 9:54:12pm

Has there been a breakdown of how many delegates for Clinton and Sanders in tonight’s Wisconsin results? I am having a real tough time watching the TV talking heads.

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2016 • 9:56:45pm

I’m thinking Daleiden may have run afoul of California’s two-party consent law, among other things. So you don’t even need to get to libel, just strict lawbreaking by failure to obtain consent.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:00:02pm

What’s wrong with Claremont McKenna College?

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Kragar  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:01:54pm

re: #5 mmmirele

IIRC, they were also being charged with perjury and/or false official statement for lying when they applied for CA state ID with their fake identities

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eyezofgawd  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:06:51pm

re: #5 mmmirele

I’m thinking Daleiden may have run afoul of California’s two-party consent law, among other things. So you don’t even need to get to libel, just strict lawbreaking by failure to obtain consent.

the penalty for recording without consent is $5,000 or a year in jail. jail doesn’t actually ever happen, so if you add up all the times he failed to get consent in california, it’s still not much money.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:11:51pm

Looking at the numbers, Ted Cruz could win Wisconsin in the general.

Lord help me.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:13:25pm

The state can charge them with obtaining state IDs under false pretenses, misuse of said ID, misrepresentation, recording someone without their permission, fraud, and maybe RICO.

In any event, Daleiden’s in trouble, no matter how he pleads First Amendment rights to the media.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:36:50pm

A “raid” sounds militant. I wonder what prompted it.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:37:47pm

A clear violation of the basic constitutional right to be an odious bastard and to just make shit up when you feel like it. If only Scalia was still around to defend him.

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piratedan  Apr 5, 2016 • 10:54:55pm

lets hope that they find the evidence that they need and allow this young man to spend some time thinking about what he’s done and attempted to do…. in jail.

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2016 • 11:58:44pm

So, I awoke from a sound sleep to heartburn and a replay of March 9th. “Bernie won big! It’s over for Hillary! She’s gonna lose New York!”

What helps soothe the former is knowing that, come the 15th, history will kick the people saying the latter in the jimmies again and we’ll be back to “She’s going to be indicted any day now!”

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CleverToad  Apr 6, 2016 • 1:53:47am

re: #6 jaunte

What’s wrong with Claremont McKenna College?

I’m not sure, but the college flyer they sent my kid this week went straight into the circular file. Watching the antics of a couple of their alumni has left rather a negative association with the institution.

(On a side note, it’s been rather bemusing to watch the college flyers come in, everything from a postcard to a 8x10 20-page booklet. Haven’t counted lately, but we passed the fifty mark while the kid was still in his sophomore year. Makes one wonder how much of their budget goes to recruitment campaigns.)

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Ming5000  Apr 6, 2016 • 2:17:28am

Whew, I think everyone tired themselves out in the gun debate last night. I am just a fraction of the was through and am enjoying the debate.
And so far there is no name calling!

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Ming5000  Apr 6, 2016 • 2:50:53am

About the Panama Papers: One thing that is highlighted to me is that the rich have both the means to fight politically for lower tax rates , and have the means to move money around to hide it from taxation.
The deck is stacked.

Oh, and the political fight has two legs. One leg funds politicians for direct action and one leg works to convince the abundant median income and lower that the rich are getting soaked and need more relief.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 2:56:17am

Progress of sorts (lol).

NY can’t come fast enough.

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Emperor_J_Norton_VI  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:05:22am

re: #6 jaunte

What’s wrong with Claremont McKenna College?

I am actually going to their graduation ceremony in a month as my nephew will be finished with his BA. We made sure to raise him a good lefty, and he has spent most of his summer breaks working on Dem campaigns.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:25:21am

re: #19 Emperor_J_Norton_VI

I am actually going to their graduation ceremony in a month as my nephew will be finished with his BA. We made sure to raise him a good lefty, and he has spent most of his summer breaks working on Dem campaigns.

It’s good to know not all CMC graduates are Republicans. Heidi Cruz is a graduate, as is Rage Furby’s ex-GF, who I believe works in conservative media somewhere.

Daleiden and Rage Furby are, however, less than luminary alumni. I’ll give Mrs Cruz and the ex-GF a pass, for now anyway.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:26:27am

Okay.
I’ll gladly take a Sanders presidency, if only to see the massive turnout in the midterms.

I seriously can’t tell if I’m being sarcastic or not. Consistent liberal turnout would actually be amazeballs. Lackluster turnout under a Sanders administration would be damning.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:26:33am

Last night Hillary displayed total class in her congratulations message to Bernie. Trump has not Tweeted since losing the WI Primary, but here is his campaign’s utterly CLASSLESS announcement==>

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:27:17am

re: #18 Alyosha

Progress of sorts (lol).

[Embedded content]

NY can’t come fast enough.

NY will be like every other win for her: “The vote’s rigged because if it wasn’t, Bernie would have totally won!”

They cannot comprehend that they are the exception, not the rule within the DNC.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:34:04am

re: #23 Targetpractice

And social media is their threat display.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:41:06am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Last night Hillary displayed total class in her congratulations message to Bernie. Trump has not Tweeted since losing the WI Primary, but here is his campaign’s utterly CLASSLESS announcement==>

[Embedded content]

His own Super PAC controls him?

That’s some Mobius strip logic right there.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 3:49:12am

Shouldering my grief with facts.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:04:45am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:13:38am

re: #3 MsJ

I’m sure that punk removed everything of consequence.

But then again, both he and Chuck seem to think they’re invincible.

Computer forensic analysts are pretty good at recovering stuff and (as you note) these type of people think they are smarter than they are, so if they deleted stuff, they probably didn’t do it properly to prevent recovery.

I think it is highly unlikely that they physically removed and destroyed the drives.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:27:37am

re: #4 ObserverArt

nytimes.com

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:29:59am

I remember when Bernie’s “surprise” win in the Michigan open primary was supposed to be the “turning point,” because he’d done better than the polls suggested and that meant all the polls on March 15th were off and the races were really in his favor. Instead, he lost all five states and Hillary only added to her delegate lead.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:32:46am

The not-estimable David Gergen runs an article with this headline:

Ted Cruz: Now the odds-on favorite

CNN is just so wanting more horse races than the horses can race.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:36:58am

Why did the alligator cross the road?

Gator crosses the road, stopping trafficTraffic was at a standstill in Sun City Center as the alligator (very slowly) crossed the road. Because Florida. #InsertJokesHereSTORY: fox13news.com/news/local-news/117651904-storyVideo courtesy: Diane JonesPosted by FOX 13 News - Tampa Bay on Tuesday, April 5, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:37:47am

re: #28 Le Lapin Tueur

Computer forensic analysts are pretty good at recovering stuff and (as you note) these type of people think they are smarter than they are, so if they deleted stuff, they probably didn’t do it properly to prevent recovery.

I think it is highly unlikely that they physically removed and destroyed the drives.

re: #3 MsJ

I’m sure that punk removed everything of consequence.

But then again, both he and Chuck seem to think they’re invincible.

Daleiden, for one, seems to think he’s acting on behalf of some higher purpose than obeying the legal system. So, he probably felt he was safe enough not to conceal most of what he done. Chuck, on the other hand, just thinks he’s so much smarter than everyone else that he’s also safe from the long arm of the law.

Daleiden, Chuck, et alia, all swore under oath to a federal judge that Chuck did not get his videos from Daleiden or the Center for Medical Progress. If the state DOJ uncovers something to the contrary, they will all be in a world of hurt.

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Ming5000  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:43:06am

The New York Daily News interview of Bernie is getting many headlines. None favorable.
I checked to see who NYDN did endorse, or when they endorse. They have not endorsed so far.
Last cycle they endorsed Mitt Romney.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:50:27am

re: #34 Ming5000

The New York Daily News interview of Bernie is getting many headlines. None favorable.
I checked to see who NYDN did endorse, or when they endorse. They have not endorsed so far.
Last cycle they endorsed Mitt Romney.

This interview really distilled all the negatives that we’ve known about Bernie for awhile now, and put on display just how much like Trump he really is. Both have ideas but no plans for implementing them, they just assume that they’ll happen. Both refuse to acknowledge negative consequences of their ideas, insisting that any negative results are the fault of the groups they’re going after. And both assume that their ideas are totally feasible, no matter how many people point out the gaping flaws in them.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:51:07am

re: #33 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Daleiden, Chuck, et alia, all swore under oath to a federal judge that Chuck did not get his videos from Daleiden or the Center for Medical Progress. If the state DOJ uncovers something to the contrary, they will all be in a world of hurt.

That would be soooooo delicious.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:54:22am

re: #34 Ming5000

Transcript is here for those who have not read it. It is a good read.

Daily News: Okay. Do you weigh in the balance at all, the fact that a company that’s moving jobs overseas, that the competitive climate may be such that they feel that they must, to compete in the United States?

Sanders: No. I think, firstly, we have to appreciate these guys wrote the rules in the first place. So they wrote the trade agreements. And then, yes, I do understand you can make more profits by paying people in Mexico, or China, or Vietnam pennies an hour, I do understand that. But I believe that people have…and, by the way, I’m not anti-trade. We live in a global economy, we need trade. But the trade policies that we have allowed to occur, that were written by corporate America have been disastrous for American workers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:55:27am

Wouldn’t it be awesoe if the Feds raided on Chick too…

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 6, 2016 • 4:57:17am

re: #37 Kent Dorfman

Daily News: And then, you further said that you expect to break them up within the first year of your administration. What authority do you have to do that? And how would that work? How would you break up JPMorgan Chase?

Sanders: Well, by the way, the idea of breaking up these banks is not an original idea. It’s an idea that some conservatives have also agreed to.

You’ve got head of, I think it’s, the Kansas City Fed, some pretty conservative guys, who understands. Let’s talk about the merit of the issue, and then talk about how we get there.

Right now, what you have are two factors. We bailed out Wall Street because the banks are too big to fail, correct? It turns out, that three out of the four largest banks are bigger today than they were when we bailed them out, when they were too-big-to-fail. That’s number one.

Number two, if you look at the six largest financial institutions of this country, their assets somewhere around $10 trillion. That is equivalent to 58% of the GDP of America. They issue two-thirds of the credit cards in this country, and about one-third of the mortgages. That is a lot of power.

And I think that if somebody, like if Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, he would look at that. Forgetting even the risk element, the bailout element, and just look at the kind of financial power that these guys have, would say that is too much power.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:01:31am

re: #38 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t it be awesoe if the Feds raided on Chick too…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:05:33am

So, I spent most of my day (and last night) tending to some badly needed website maintenance. In between dealing with all that, I poked into the “stories” Chuck has on his blog, and found both somewhat lacking in evidence.

He claims that the the son of the governor of Mississippi is gay. The only “evidence” I could find of that were a mention of it in a comment to another blogger and a mention on another website with the caveat that it was unconfirmed. In other words, no evidence at all.

Then in a very garbled paragraph, Rage Furby claims that the governor steered $500,000 in contracts to his son’s interior decorating firm, then clumsily segues into an article about Christmas decorations at the governor’s mansion in 2012.The thing is, the son is only an employee of a Texas-based decorating firm, and the article says someone named Wendy Putt helped the First Lady with the Xmas decorations. The son is only quoted as having helped.

So, once again, no hard evidence.

The second post regards the Melania video that Liz Mair created. Chuck claims that the guy who made the largest donation to the PAC behind the video was Donald Sherwood, a Pennsylvania Republican politician with a very checkered past. Well, I checked. Sherwood donated $1,000. So did another guy. And the other six donors all contributed smaller amounts, for a total of $10,337. So, Sherwood did not make the largest donation — in fact his was only 1/10th the total.

I’m not sure what the point of the Sherwood post is, other than to bring up Sherwood’s unsavory past and imply his presences somehow sullies the anti-Trump campaign.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:05:38am

re: #39 Kent Dorfman

Breaking up the banks is probably good policy. Glass-Steagall-type prudence.
Why isn’t he campaigning like he doesn’t need a Democratic Senate and Congress to pass his reforms in the one year it might be acheivable?!
‘We’ll see.’

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:06:06am

re: #38 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t it be awesoe if the Feds raided on Chick too…

That would go over so well with the wife and in-laws.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:06:53am

The whole too-big-to-fail doesn’t work as well now as when the bailout happened.

I’ll let Barney Frank explain here:

washingtonpost.com

And Steve Eisman (the real life version as portrayed by Steve Carrel in The Big Short) explain here:

nytimes.com

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:14:18am

re: #44 Franklin

And just like that, my received wisdom gains a spoon of salt.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:15:34am

re: #44 Franklin

The whole too-big-to-fail doesn’t work as well now as when the bailout happened.

I’ll let Barney Frank explain here:

washingtonpost.com

And Steve Eisman (the real life version as portrayed by Steve Carrel in The Big Short) explain here:

nytimes.com

I saw the movie last week, and now I’m reading the book. Lewis makes it very clear that Eisman and the other traders were dumbstruck that the entire mortgage, banking and investment culture was either stupendously idiotic or crooked, or both. It was a giant Ponzi scheme on steroids, making money out of thin air.

Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s come off as total clowns, too. They deliberately gave those shaky investment vehicles high ratings so they could earn their commissions from the big banks marketing them.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:15:44am

One other thought here on “Breaking up the Big Banks” and how it relates to Universal Healthcare. Someone tell me if I am bonkers.

Breaking up the big banks is a manifestation of the sub prime mortgage crisis that upended the world economy in 2007. What they banks and brokerage firms were doing was downright criminal at that time. But to say they are doing the same thing today is crazy (see Dodd-Frank). Yes they are still packaging and re-packaging mortgages. But there are safeguards.

It would seem to me that packaging these mortgages leads to lower interest rates by spreading the risk of default. This is good for the prospective homeowner and the American housing market, builders and on down the line.

The same can be said about the Affordable Care Act and Single Payer. Spread risk to a big enough pool and the cost of insurance goes way down.

So how can one be a big proponent of Single Payer, but think that Wall St is the evil and the Big Banks, complete with safeguards against high leverage and risky loans, need to be broken up?

Is this analogy too much of a stretch?

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:17:33am

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I saw the movie last week, and now I’m reading the book. Lewis makes it very clear that Eisman and the other traders were dumbstruck that the entire mortgage, banking and investment culture was either stupendously idiotic or crooked, or both. It was a giant Ponzi scheme on steroids, making money out of thin air.

Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s come off as total clowns, too. They deliberately gave those shaky investment vehicles high ratings so they could earn their commissions from the big banks marketing them.

It’s a great movie. I’ve always loved Steve Carrel as a comedian, but he took it to a whole new level in The Big Short. They all did. Great acting, writing, directing, etc. The book is great too, I am on the last chapter but I’ve watched the movie at least a dozen times!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:20:36am

re: #47 Franklin

One other thought here on “Breaking up the Big Banks” and how it relates to Universal Healthcare. Someone tell me if I am bonkers.

Breaking up the big banks is a manifestation of the sub prime mortgage crisis that upended the world economy in 2007. What they banks and brokerage firms were doing was downright criminal at that time. But to say they are doing the same thing today is crazy (see Dodd-Frank). Yes they are still packaging and re-packaging mortgages. But there are safeguards.

It would seem to me that packaging these mortgages leads to lower interest rates by spreading the risk of default. This is good for the prospective homeowner and the American housing market, builders and on down the line.

The same can be said about the Affordable Care Act and Single Payer. Spread risk to a big enough pool and the cost of insurance goes way down.

So how can one be a big proponent of Single Payer, but think that Wall St is the evil and the Big Banks, complete with safeguards against high leverage and risky loans, need to be broken up?

Is this analogy too much of a stretch?

I’m not up on the current regulations and practices of the mortgage packaging business, but AFAIK the purpose is not exactly to lower mortgagors’ risks, but to make money for the people holding those mortgage-backed bonds. I’m hoping that the mortgage industry has given up lending money to people who can’t possible afford it, and allowing cash-strapped people to borrow money for their down payments. But I suspect it’s still happening somewhere.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:23:06am

re: #49 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not up on the current regulations and practices of the mortgage packaging business, but AFAIK the purpose is not exactly to lower mortgagors’ risks, but to make money for the people holding those mortgage-backed bonds. I’m hoping that the mortgage industry has given up lending money to people who can’t possible afford it, and allowing cash-strapped people to borrow money for their down payments. But I suspect it’s still happening somewhere.

Oh for sure it was a vehicle to let rich people get richer. I’m just trying to determine if the intended or even unintended consequence of the practice of mortgage backed securities was a lower interest rate which is good for everyone (assuming they have the ability to repay!).

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uncah91  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:46:47am

re: #50 Franklin

Fannie, Freddie and Ginni are the original MBS guys, started in the wake of the Great Depression to make sure that capital would flow to the home ownership market. More capital in the market does mean lower, even dramatically lower interest rates (as well as looser restrictions on who can borrow).

I think one effect of MBS securities is to spread risk from regional properties. So if you look at the Texas bust in the 80s, or the coming North Dakota bust, those kinds of regional exposures would bring down local lenders if they didn’t have a means by which to sell the mortgage on. Mortgage brokers might not exist if not for the MBS market.

MBS wasn’t invented to make the rich richer. It was invented to let middle-class Americans own homes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:47:09am

re: #50 Franklin

Oh for sure it was a vehicle to let rich people get richer. I’m just trying to determine if the intended or even unintended consequence of the practice of mortgage backed securities was a lower interest rate which is good for everyone (assuming they have the ability to repay!).

Theoretically, yes, because the idea of the aggregated mortgages was to reduce the risk to the mortgagors, which is how insurance and corporate bond funds work. But in fact, the bank or company making the mortgage is pretty far removed from the final holder of the mortgage, and can’t finagle the interest rate much at all once the mortgage papers are all signed. The mortgage-backed securities were not there to help the borrowers at all, but to keep the lenders (and the buyers of those loans) “safe” for losses.

In fact, as Lewis observes, the hunger for these securities was so great that lenders were going out of their way to find suckers to lend money to. It was like a snowball rolling down a hill.

Or buying fire insurance on a burning building, as he says.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:52:06am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Why did the alligator cross the road?

[Embedded content]

Beginning of alligator courtship & breeding season.

“In spring alligator thoughts turn to …”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:53:21am

re: #51 uncah91

Fannie, Freddie and Ginni are the original MBS guys, started in the wake of the Great Depression to make sure that capital would flow to the home ownership market. More capital in the market does mean lower, even dramatically lower interest rates (as well as looser restrictions on who can borrow).

I think one effect of MBS securities is to spread risk from regional properties. So if you look at the Texas bust in the 80s, or the coming North Dakota bust, those kinds of regional exposures would bring down local lenders if they didn’t have a means by which to sell the mortgage on. Mortgage brokers might not exist if not for the MBS market.

MBS wasn’t invented to make the rich richer. It invented to let middle-class Americans own homes.

Originally, yes, you’re right. But the concept got borked in the ’80s and ’90s when a booming housing market fooled lenders into thinking poor credit risks could take on loans they couldn’t afford. As long as housing prices rise, the lender can recoup its losses if the borrower defaults. So, everyone fooled themselves into thinking these were safe bets. They could make shitloads of money while people owned nice homes. But what finally happened was the lenders’ nightmare: borrowers who should never have been lent that money in the first place defaulted in droves AND property values tumbled.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:53:27am

re: #38 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t it be awesoe if the Feds raided on Chick too…

Um. Awesome. Chuck. Duh. I’ve lost it this morning I guess. Meant to post this here and not downstairs.

————

Imagine how tall that Trump wall would have to be to stop Chinese and Indian immigrants from committing fraud through a fake university to obtain counterfeit student visas!

money.cnn.com

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 6, 2016 • 5:58:14am

re: #44 Franklin

And Steve Eisman (the real life version as portrayed by Steve Carrel in The Big Short) ….

Someone (Wheat, I think), plugged The Big Short, previously. I was very skeptical at first when Mrs. Lapin made me watch. It was an excellent movie. I also recommend it.

added vis edit: read two more posts and Wheat confirms what I said :o

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:00:00am

re: #55 GlutenFreeJesus

Um. Awesome. Chuck. Duh. I’ve lost it this morning I guess. Meant to post this here and not downstairs.

————

Imagine how tall that Trump wall would have to be to stop Chinese and Indian immigrants from committing fraud through a fake university to obtain counterfeit student visas!

money.cnn.com

I’ve had a couple of students here ask me about dodgy schools in the USA. Most international students only know the big name schools, like Harvard or Yale. They have no concept of proprietary schools or diploma mills. If the website looks cool and the school’s promises sound good, they’ll hand over their money just to get into the USA.

One young woman was a business major. She wanted a student visa to attend DeVry in California somewhere to study accounting, to be near her boyfriend studying a state university in the same town. I have my doubts about DeVry being the right choice, but at least it’s somewhat reputable. She got her visa eventually, after I helped her prepare for the interview. Don’t know what happened to her, though.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:01:06am

re: #56 Le Lapin Tueur

Someone (Wheat, I think), plugged The Big Short, previously. I was very skeptical at first when Mrs. Lapin made me watch. It was an excellent movie. I also recommend it.

added vis edit: read two more posts and Wheat confirms what I said :o

And someone here plugged it before me. I was joining in on the chorus.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:04:31am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As soon as I finished the movie I researched the criticism of it to see how authentic the story was (hadn’t read the book yet at that time). The biggest criticism I could find was that they (the protagonists) exacerbated the collapse because of their short positions.

Which is crap since the banks themselves started to short as the crisis was looming.

Anyway, I was glad they touched on the quasi-hypocrisy of their position during the Moody’s scene.

EDIT: And the casino scene with Brad Pitt telling them not to celebrate.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:05:33am

How much of Obama’s rising approval ratings is due to people tuning back into politics ahead of the general?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:10:36am

Facebook Post

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:11:30am

re: #59 Franklin

As soon as I finished the movie I researched the criticism of it to see how authentic the story was (hadn’t read the book yet at that time). The biggest criticism I could find was that they (the protagonists) exacerbated the collapse because of their short positions.

Which is crap since the banks themselves started to short as the crisis was looming.

Anyway, I was glad they touched on the quasi-hypocrisy of their position during the Moody’s scene.

EDIT: And the casino scene with Brad Pitt telling them not to celebrate.

Eisman especially is disturbed when he realizes he’s made a shitload of money because millions of people lost their homes.

I’m not they exacerbated the situation so much as added a piece of straw on the camel’s back. The collapse was going to happen with or without those shorts. You had a shaky foundation (subprime mortgages) supporting layer upon layer of securities — each a repackaged version of the layer under, beside or above it. All was golden as long the housing market was booming. But the guys with the short positions all understood that booms never last forever.

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Franklin  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:15:05am

re: #62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Eisman especially is disturbed when he realizes he’s made a shitload of money because millions of people lost their homes.

I’m not they exacerbated the situation so much as added a piece of straw on the camel’s back. The collapse was going to happen with or without those shorts. You had a shaky foundation (subprime mortgages) supporting layer upon layer of securities — each a repackaged version of the layer under, beside or above it. All was golden as long the housing market was booming. But the guys with the short positions all understood that booms never last forever.

Bingo.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:17:04am

You want a divorce? (Get) I know a man.

When a Jewish woman wanted a divorce from an unwilling husband, federal prosecutors say, Mendel Epstein was the rabbi who — for the right price — could gather a kidnap team to make it happen. Prosecutors allege Epstein’s team would use brutal methods, including martial arts beatings, handcuffs and electric cattle prods, to torture the man into granting the divorce.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:17:17am

‘Morning, Lizards,

Trump comes to Long Island today.

I spoke to a friend who lives in Bethpage earlier, and he’s mighty pissed. He says the area by the studio is already crawling with cops, and all local streets are going to be blocked around the studios starting at 2:00 today.

This event should be a magnet for every asshole in Nassau County. And it’ll be notable as probably the first time Trump has seen Nassau County without looking out the window of his private copter.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:23:31am

re: #65 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards,

Trump comes to Long Island today.

I spoke to a friend who lives in Bethpage earlier, and he’s mighty pissed. He says the area by the studio is already crawling with cops, and all local streets are going to be blocked around the studios starting at 2:00 today.

This event should be a magnet for every asshole in Nassau County. And it’ll be notable as probably the first time Trump has seen Nassau County without looking out the window of his private copter.

My home turf. I was born in Roslyn, lived in Mineola till I was 3 and the new house was ready in Suffolk.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:25:48am

‘Morning, all. Seems there is no comment so trenchant that it makes the lawn any shorter. BBL.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:27:07am

re: #31 freetoken

The not-estimable David Gergen runs an article with this headline:

Ted Cruz: Now the odds-on favorite

CNN is just so wanting more horse races than the horses can race.

Trump still plenty ahead in delegates and has NY coming up.

Of course Gergen may mean Trump will fail to gain the majority of delegates needed before the convention.

Kasich must really be scrambling to come up with a reason to stay in the race.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:27:45am

re: #61 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

“New enlisted white hats or Dixie Cups.”

Never heard them referred to as “Dixie Cups” during my days as a Navy enlisted man. And Dixie Cups pre-dated the Red Cup.

But could be due to my serving before Social Security numbers replaced service numbers.

Wonder if it’s a slang reference to the Dixie Chicks C&W group.

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Great White Snark  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:28:06am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

‘Morning, all. Seems there is no comment so trenchant that it makes the lawn any shorter. BBL.

No cutting remarks then…

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:33:28am

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My home turf. I was born in Roslyn, lived in Mineola till I was 3 and the new house was ready in Suffolk.

The rally is to be held at Grumman Studios, the old aerospace facility re-purposed as a media center. The main drag that runs by there is Route 106, and it’s the only way in or out of some of those neighborhoods, my friend’s included. He ain’t happy - they expect 12,000 people.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:33:31am

re: #69 BeenHereAwhile

“New enlisted white hats or Dixie Cups.”

Never heard them referred to as “Dixie Cups” during my days as a Navy enlisted man. And Dixie Cups pre-dated the Red Cup.

But could be due to my serving before Social Security numbers replaced service numbers.

Wonder if it’s a slang reference to the Dixie Chicks C&W group.

I was active duty USN 90 to 94 and the term Dixie Cups was used.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:37:16am

re: #70 Great White Snark

You’ll get a clip around the ears for that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:39:16am

Yes, indeed, this is bloody marvelous:

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:42:40am

re: #42 Alyosha

Breaking up the banks is probably good policy. Glass-Steagall-type prudence.
Why isn’t he campaigning like he doesn’t need a Democratic Senate and Congress to pass his reforms in the one year it might be acheivable?!
‘We’ll see.’

Because doing so would involve Sen. Sanders being seen with people who have in the past cut deals with Republicans or who hold centrist policy positions, both of which would hurt his popularity with the Dem’s “PURITY NOW!!1” crowd.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:45:59am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And someone here plugged it before me. I was joining in on the chorus.

The Big Short was an outstanding film; I felt it was a tossup (for me at least) between TBS and Spotlight as Best Film of the Year. Of course, Spotlight ultimately nabbed the Oscar.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:48:36am

re: #71 makeitstop

The rally is to be held at Grumman Studios, the old aerospace facility re-purposed as a media center. The main drag that runs by there is Route 106, and it’s the only way in or out of some of those neighborhoods, my friend’s included. He ain’t happy - they expect 12,000 people.

It’ll be mess on the parkways, too, if people are coming from the City and Suffolk.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:49:51am

re: #72 Dr. Matt

I was active duty USN 90 to 94 and the term Dixie Cups was used.

“But could be due to my serving before Social Security numbers replaced service numbers.”

‘I grow old, I grow old. I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.’
TSE

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:49:58am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

The Big Short was an outstanding film; I felt it was a tossup (for me at least) between TBS and Spotlight as Best Film of the Year. Of course, Spotlight ultimately nabbed the Oscar.

Spotlight is next on my list of movies to see.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:50:52am

re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Spotlight is next on my list of movies to see.

That’s a damned solid film. I wasn’t at all surprised it won Best Film - were I a betting man, I’d have put money on it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:51:10am

ET and Animaniacs are on Netflix. There goes my day.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:53:32am

re: #77 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’ll be mess on the parkways, too, if people are coming from the City and Suffolk.

Yep. My wife works out in Woodbury, and she has to get past that general vicinity to get here to E. Islip. She’s not looking forward to it, either.

Gonna be lots of unhappy peeps on LI today.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:53:35am

re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus

Rurouni Kenshin is on there too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:54:37am
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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 6:57:56am

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Because doing so would involve Sen. Sanders being seen with people who have in the past cut deals with Republicans or who hold centrist policy positions, both of which would hurt his popularity with the Dem’s “PURITY NOW!!1” crowd.

Hey, Dark, been awhile.

Sooo how about that Wisconsin result? ;)

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:02:16am

re: #85 Alyosha

Hey, Dark, been awhile.

Sooo how about that Wisconsin result? ;)

Strong victory for Cruz, and he needed it in order to build up support for the primaires in May. He likely can’t win New York, but he needs to keep trump from running away with the state and now he likely can do that.

BBT [sorry :( ]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:04:36am

This is happening today in Cincinnati:

Tensing is the University of Cincinnati police officer who shot and killed a man during a traffic stop off campus last summer.
It looks like his attorneys are going to try to imply that the victim was mentally ill or something.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:05:11am

re: #59 Franklin

As soon as I finished the movie I researched the criticism of it to see how authentic the story was (hadn’t read the book yet at that time). The biggest criticism I could find was that they (the protagonists) exacerbated the collapse because of their short positions.

Which is crap since the banks themselves started to short as the crisis was looming.

Anyway, I was glad they touched on the quasi-hypocrisy of their position during the Moody’s scene.

EDIT: And the casino scene with Brad Pitt telling them not to celebrate.

I haven’t seen it yet, but does anyone have a feel of how it compares to Too Big to Fail, the HBO movie done a few years ago?

imdb.com

And/or Inside Job, the HBO documentary (which I thought was excellent)

imdb.com

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:08:10am

re: #65 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards,

Trump comes to Long Island today.

I spoke to a friend who lives in Bethpage earlier, and he’s mighty pissed. He says the area by the studio is already crawling with cops, and all local streets are going to be blocked around the studios starting at 2:00 today.

This event should be a magnet for every asshole in Nassau County. And it’ll be notable as probably the first time Trump has seen Nassau County without looking out the window of his private copter.

Spent three miserable years of high school in Nassau County. Don’t think I’ve been back since.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:13:57am

re: #89 BeachDem

Spent three miserable years of high school in Nassau County. Don’t think I’ve been back since.

I haven’t been back to the Island since 1994, to bury my mom. But I lived there almost 22 years in Mineola, Huntington and Syosset — mostly in Huntington. I have mostly good memories of those years, but given the housing prices it’s unlikely I’d ever move back there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:19:08am
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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:19:17am

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I haven’t been back to the Island since 1994, to bury my mom. But I lived there almost 22 years in Mineola, Huntington and Syosset — mostly in Huntington. I have mostly good memories of those years, but given the housing prices it’s unlikely I’d ever move back there.

I lived in Huntington Village for a few years in the late 80s. At the time it had the highest number of bars per capita on the Island. I lived within stumbling distance of five bars, but I was relatively young and able to handle it back then.

Once I moved off the North Shore, I came to realize how horrible it is in terms of getting anywhere. I worked in Lindenhurst at the time, and it used to take me nearly 20 minutes to get to a main road from where I lived. I imagine it’s exponentially worse now.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:23:32am
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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:30:33am

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I haven’t been back to the Island since 1994, to bury my mom. But I lived there almost 22 years in Mineola, Huntington and Syosset — mostly in Huntington. I have mostly good memories of those years, but given the housing prices it’s unlikely I’d ever move back there.

re: #92 makeitstop

I lived in Huntington Village for a few years in the late 80s. At the time it had the highest number of bars per capita on the Island. I lived within stumbling distance of five bars, but I was relatively young and able to handle it back then.

Once I moved off the North Shore, I came to realize how horrible it is in terms of getting anywhere. I worked in Lindenhurst at the time, and it used to take me nearly 20 minutes to get to a main road from where I lived. I imagine it’s exponentially worse now.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:33:37am

re: #92 makeitstop

I lived in Huntington Village for a few years in the late 80s. At the time it had the highest number of bars per capita on the Island. I lived within stumbling distance of five bars, but I was relatively young and able to handle it back then.

Once I moved off the North Shore, I came to realize how horrible it is in terms of getting anywhere. I worked in Lindenhurst at the time, and it used to take me nearly 20 minutes to get to a main road from where I lived. I imagine it’s exponentially worse now.

Finnegan’s?

My dad’s business was in East Williston. It would take him at least 45 minutes each way from our house in Lloyds Neck. If you look at the map, it doesn’t look that far of a distance, but Long Island roads are laid out like country roads, all helter skelter, because it used to BE country until the 1920s or so.

A potato farm abutted my father’s boyhood home in Mineola in the 1920s and 30s. Can you imagine?

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:33:47am

re: #26 Alyosha

Shouldering my grief with facts.

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Even without them Bernie only nets 10; 46-36 delegate haul.

Wow. I lucky guessed it last night.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:35:12am

re: #94 BeachDem

Ah, yeah, I know the town. My sympathies.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:35:39am

LGF is running like crap on Chrome for me the last few days. Constantly freezing up.

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:35:56am

re: #96 stpaulbear

Updinger hasn’t expired. +1.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:37:04am

re: #98 stpaulbear

Same here.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:38:42am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ah, yeah, I know the town. My sympathies.

Nobody I knew really got the significance of what a horrible place it was until it came out that Joey Buttafuco and Amy Fischer carried on their affair at the F’Port Motor Lodge. (I did live on the same street as Guy Lombardo, so there’s that)

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Alyosha  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:41:16am

I gotta go. Impatient people who misprioritise everything probably want me parting seas and such. Then I’ll have to explain why there are so many dead fish.

Later on, Lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:44:52am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, indeed, this is bloody marvelous:

[Embedded content]

Another twitter tale from the author of the twitter of the Skyrim story.
Start with this tweet:

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:46:08am

re: #102 Alyosha

I gotta go. Impatient people who misprioritise everything probably want me parting seas and such. Then I’ll have to explain why there are so many dead fish.

Later on, Lizards.

I’ve spent the last four days at work trying to satisfy the person who parts the seas where I work. She’s not satisfied until you can show her the nail holes in your wrists.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:47:34am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Strong victory for Cruz, and he needed it in order to build up support for the primaires in May. He likely can’t win New York, but he needs to keep trump from running away with the state and now he likely can do that.

BBT [sorry :( ]

The rest of April would seem to favor Trump (NY, PA, MD, CT, RI). But May would seem to skew towards Cruz. Still seems at this point that Cruz’s path to victory involves keeping Trump away from 1237 before the convention.

Hillary should do well in NY, PA, and MD but Sanders will probably win in RI and CT—unless those states are more like MA then NH or VT.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:48:49am

re: #105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The rest of April would seem to favor Trump (NY, PA, MD, CT, RI). But May would seem to skew towards Cruz. Still seems at this point that Cruz’s path to victory involves keeping Trump away from 1237 before the convention.

Hillary should do well in NY, PA, and MD but Sanders will probably win in RI and CT—unless those states are more like MA then NH or VT.

I think I saw a prediction somewhere that said Clinton would win CT but Sanders would win RI. Considering they elected Lieberman, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:50:05am

re: #101 BeachDem

Nobody I knew really got the significance of what a horrible place it was until it came out that Joey Buttafuco and Amy Fischer carried on their affair at the F’Port Motor Lodge. (I did live on the same street as Guy Lombardo, so there’s that)

Oh, boy. I’d forgotten about that story! Good thing the Internet wasn’t a thing back then, or the whole damn world would’ve been Facebooking and tweeting about Joey and his bonking a high school student.

I know Fport because the printer for our high school newspaper was down there. Their prices were cheaper than the ones closer to our North Shore high school. That was a bit of a trek, too, and I was the one with a car. 0_o

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:50:55am

re: #54 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Originally, yes, you’re right. But the concept got borked in the ’80s and ’90s when a booming housing market fooled lenders into thinking poor credit risks could take on loans they couldn’t afford. As long as housing prices rise, the lender can recoup its losses if the borrower defaults. So, everyone fooled themselves into thinking these were safe bets. They could make shitloads of money while people owned nice homes. But what finally happened was the lenders’ nightmare: borrowers who should never have been lent that money in the first place defaulted in droves AND property values tumbled.

Actually (speaking from experience), the lenders couldn’t have cared less. I worked for a mortgage broker (not bank) during the boom from 2001-2006. For one thing prices were so high most couldn’t get federally insured loans for homes (especially here in California) given the cap so they wouldn’t go through banks they’d come to Mortgage Brokers like the one I worked for to get a home loan. We could do Alt-A and other “exotic” products as well given that we weren’t under the same regulations as banks and others (you can also thank GW Bush for that as well*). Even if the borrower was smart enough to read what would happen we’d tell them not to worry we’d refinance them.

What we didn’t tell them was that we only had to hold the loan for 90 days before selling it on the secondary market and not be left holding the “time bomb” so to speak that would go off in 6 months or a year when the rate would suddenly shoot up or when we’d stop “Interest Only” payments.

Sure we didn’t make ALL the money on the interest of the loan but we had such high volume selling off the loans that we were making a fortune doing so. I watched guys go from being in IT to being Account Executives and making money hand over fist.

*The CFO of our company had met with GW Bush after he took office along with a bunch of other mortgage brokers/bankers and Bush made it clear they would work to relax rules even more.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:51:14am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, boy. I’d forgotten about that story! Good thing the Internet wasn’t a thing back then, or the whole damn world would’ve been Facebooking and tweeting about Joey and his bonking high school student.

I know Fport because the printer for our high school newspaper was down there. Their prices were cheaper than the ones closer to our North Shore high school. That was a bit of a trek, too, and I was the one with a car. 0_o

Good dog, yes. It was awful enough back then.

Made into at least two movies. Yet somehow civilization survived. Wouldn’t have predicted.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:57:20am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, boy. I’d forgotten about that story! Good thing the Internet wasn’t a thing back then, or the whole damn world would’ve been Facebooking and tweeting about Joey and his bonking high school student.

I know Fport because the printer for our high school newspaper was down there. Their prices were cheaper than the ones closer to our North Shore high school. That was a bit of a trek, too, and I was the one with a car. 0_o

Maybe if there’d been Internet before we moved to NY, my parents would have picked a less awful place. Sigh.

The only good thing about living there was that I saw every show on Broadway because I cut school about 1/4 of my senior year (still graduated in the top 10%—yes, an educational powerhouse of a school.)

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2016 • 7:57:27am

Oh My…. I hadn’t seen this…
Governor Scott gets an earful

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:00:41am

re: #110 BeachDem

Maybe if there’d been Internet before we moved to NY, my parents would have picked a less awful place. Sigh.

The only good thing about living there was that I saw every show on Broadway because I cut school about 1/4 of my senior year (still graduated in the top 10%—yes, an educational powerhouse of a school.)

Must been back in the day when a high school student could afford a Broadway show.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:03:52am

And then there is this asshole.

Glenn Grothman: Photo ID will help GOP nominee win Wisconsin

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:05:22am

So, I’ll be trying out a new browser called Brave, an “ad-free,” secure browser created by some Mozilla guys, tomorrow. I just installed it and want to see how well it works.
Tomorrow. Now I have to go beddy bye.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:07:03am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

And then there is this asshole.

[Embedded content]

Video

Insert coin, spew right-wing talking points.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:07:30am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

And then there is this asshole.

[Embedded content]

The Democrats need to run that as an ad, talking about how voter blocking is the only way Republicans think they can win. You could explain voter fraud fallacy in about 10 seconds: “Voter fraud would be obvious is John Public went into vote and found he’d already voted. Yet this has never happened.”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:09:29am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, indeed, this is bloody marvelous:

[Embedded content]

Absolutely hysterical, especially since I am going through Skyrim again to try and “complete” everything.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:09:30am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

And then there is this asshole.

[Embedded content]

Video

It’s telling how casually republicans will admit that voter ID is used for voter suppression of ‘the other side’. It was explicitly created to tilt election results.

That said, I’d like those 40 seconds back, pleeze.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:12:35am

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:14:14am

re: #112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Must been back in the day when a high school student could afford a Broadway show.

Going to see “Hamilton” later this month. Probably paid more for the tickets than for all of the shows I saw during high schools combined!

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:16:07am

re: #95 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Finnegan’s?

Finnegans, Carrington’s, and a bunch I don’t even remember the names of. They’re mostly gone now, or gone upscale. They started cracking down by the time I moved out because it was totally out of control. Lots of DUI and fights, property damage, etc.

My dad’s business was in East Williston. It would take him at least 45 minutes each way from our house in Lloyds Neck. If you look at the map, it doesn’t look that far of a distance, but Long Island roads are laid out like country roads, all helter skelter, because it used to BE country until the 1920s or so.

There was a lot of ‘You’re not running that road through my property’ going on as well - that’s why the Northern State is laid out so horribly. The South Shore roads are laid out more sensibly, probably because there were less monied interests telling the state where they could and couldn’t put roads. :)

A potato farm abutted my father’s boyhood home in Mineola in the 1920s and 30s. Can you imagine?

Actually, as you get farther east on the Island, it really starts to resemble the farm lands where I grew up in Bucks County, PA. Although there are fewer potato farms now, and more wineries. Those places are big biz on the East End now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:16:12am

re: #108 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Actually (speaking from experience), the lenders couldn’t have cared less. I worked for a mortgage broker (not bank) during the boom from 2001-2006. For one thing prices were so high most couldn’t get federally insured loans for homes (especially here in California) given the cap so they wouldn’t go through banks they’d come to Mortgage Brokers like the one I worked for to get a home loan. We could do Alt-A and other “exotic” products as well given that we weren’t under the same regulations as banks and others (you can also thank GW Bush for that as well*). Even if the borrower was smart enough to read what would happen we’d tell them not to worry we’d refinance them.

What we didn’t tell them was that we only had to hold the loan for 90 days before selling it on the secondary market and not be left holding the “time bomb” so to speak that would go off in 6 months or a year when the rate would suddenly shoot up or when we’d stop “Interest Only” payments.

Sure we didn’t make ALL the money on the interest of the loan but we had such high volume selling off the loans that we were making a fortune doing so. I watched guys go from being in IT to being Account Executives and making money hand over fist.

*The CFO of our company had met with GW Bush after he took office along with a bunch of other mortgage brokers/bankers and Bush made it clear they would work to relax rules even more.

This is key to understanding the whole thing. People weren’t asking questions, because they were either making money like they’d never dreamed they could, or being told they could afford the house they never dreamed they could. It doesn’t take an evil genius to make shit like this happen. It only took some relaxed rules and a lot of people with too much money looking to make MORE money. Pretty soon EVERYONE’S getting what they want and nobody’s asking the questions that might upset the applecart.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:20:00am

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

This is key to understanding the whole thing. People weren’t asking questions, because they were either making money like they’d never dreamed they could, or being told they could afford the house they never dreamed they could. It doesn’t take an evil genius to make shit like this happen. It only took some relaxed rules and a lot of people with too much money looking to make MORE money. Pretty soon EVERYONE’S getting what they want and nobody’s asking the questions that might upset the applecart.

Pretty much. I mean those that did look at the fine print were told “Don’t worry we’ll refi you” but by then we’d already sold their mortgage and the ones holding the paper would deny the refi’s due to their own standards. We had more people contact us wondering where the heck to send their mortgage payments and even had to hire security guards to be on site due to upset borrowers making threats.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:21:17am

You remember how Donald Trump said he’d like to “date” Ivanka? Well he had some thoughts about his other daughter when she was an infant==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:29:09am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:35:14am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

You remember how Donald Trump said he’d like to “date” Ivanka? Well he had some thoughts about his other daughter when she was an infant==>

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Yeah I just saw that. WTF.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:36:59am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

You remember how Donald Trump said he’d like to “date” Ivanka? Well he had some thoughts about his other daughter when she was an infant==>

I always like to joke that I was born about 25 years too early. Donald was born about 50 years too late.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:36:59am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

And then there is this asshole.

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GOP Voter ID laws are nothing but modern day Jim Crow and perhaps worse since the racists who did Jim Crow weren’t lying about their intentions. The GOP has created a non existent problem to make it harder to vote because they know that the American people don’t like their shit stain of a party.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:37:41am

How is everyone though? Haven’t been on in a few days.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:38:00am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gawker files motions in Florida seeking new trial in Hulk Hogan privacy case t.co pic.twitter.com
— Miami Herald (@MiamiHerald) April 6, 2016

But, but, but, award winning journalist Chuck C. Johnson has inside sources that said Gawker wouldn’t seek a new trial!!!! What gives!!!??

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:39:36am

Hola.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:42:31am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

How is everyone though? Haven’t been on in a few days.

I’m at home with a depression sick day today. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I don’t get in trouble as long as I identify it as an FMLA sick day when I call in. I’m not in danger, just having a crap day where I can’t get myself out of the house.

Had my usual therapy session yesterday evening. Sometimes therapy makes things worse the next morning. Things are left dangling when the hour is up.

(edit: I’m not trolling for discussion about this. I was just describing my morning. I’m surviving)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:42:55am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:45:13am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I missed the discussion last night regarding Bernie and this. Here’s what honestly stumps me with him on this issue. He’s all for businesses taking responsibility on other matters but all a sudden, he’s against it when it involves firearms? I have to say I really don’t like that on his part.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:45:36am

re: #132 stpaulbear

I’m at home with a depression sick day today. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I don’t get in trouble as long as I identify it as an FMLA sick day when I call in. I’m not in danger, just having a crap day where I can’t get myself out of the house.

Agh depression is the worst. Hang in there man.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:45:37am

re: #132 stpaulbear

I’m at home with a depression sick day today. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I don’t get in trouble as long as I identify it as an FMLA sick day when I call in. I’m not in danger, just having a crap day where I can’t get myself out of the house.

{{{{stpaulbear}}}} Hope you’re feeling better soon. At least it’s good that your employer is understanding.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:46:14am

Went from having nice Spring weather when I went out with my cousins on Friday night to Holy shit winter’s back within only a few days. Still though, always fun to see family.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:47:21am

My cousin lives in the UK though. Word from the across the pond is that people over there respect Clinton a lot. They don’t really know Bernie. Trump OTOH scares the crap out of them and if this election is even close, we’ll lose a lot of respect abroad which I am sure doesn’t bother the Trump fans at all.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:51:10am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gawker files motions in Florida seeking new trial in Hulk Hogan privacy case t.co pic.twitter.com
— Miami Herald (@MiamiHerald) April 6, 2016

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:51:37am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

My cousin lives in the UK though. Word from the across the pond is that people over there respect Clinton a lot. They don’t really know Bernie. Trump OTOH scares the crap out of them and if this election is even close, we’ll lose a lot of respect abroad which I am sure doesn’t bother the Trump fans at all.

Trump fans don’t want respect from other countries, just money.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:52:05am

re: #136 calochortus

{{{{stpaulbear}}}} Hope you’re feeling better soon. At least it’s good that your employer is understanding.

It’s good to have a state government job in a progressive state. This probably wouldn’t go as well if I was in WI.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:52:27am

re: #140 Belafon

Trump fans don’t want respect from other countries, just money.

Fear too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:53:13am

re: #141 stpaulbear

It’s good to have a state government job in a progressive state. This probably wouldn’t go as well if I was in WI.

That really does count for something. There is something to be said about the two ideologies of liberalism and conservatism when it comes to empathy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:53:46am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

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Cool, when Chuck says I’ll never date Scarlett Johannson, I know there’s a chance now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:54:22am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

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and Rage Furby hits yet another foul ball outta the park.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:55:29am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Rage Furby hits yet another foul ball outta the park.

I hit a Foul Run!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:56:01am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

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With this record of futility and inaccuracy Rage Furby is a shoe-in for a political pundit appointment at CNN or Fox.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:57:05am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Went from having nice Spring weather when I went out with my cousins on Friday night to Holy shit winter’s back within only a few days. Still though, always fun to see family.

I’m OK with Winter, I just don’t like having Winter in my Spring.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:57:06am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sleuth, thinking about a news report I belive you posted a day or two ago, about the Rowan County Ky Football Coach being suspended.

Finally just looked at the article and realized whom it is. Known that coach for well over twenty years. My similar-in-age to me cousins played for him while in High School. I have coached against him for a long time. The reason that he has been suspended (praying with team) is of no surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:57:35am

WASHINGTON (WJLA) - A hero dog who lost her leg protecting the lives of combat troops in Iraq and Afghanistan is being recognized for her service.

Lucca, a 12-year-old U.S. Marine Corps German shepherd, received the prestigious PDSA Dickin Medal for her service Tuesday, according to a release from the People’s Dispensary of Sick Animals (PDSA).

The release states Lucca was awarded the PDSA Dickin Medal for animal bravery at Wellington Barracks in London. In six years of active service, Lucca successfully completed more than 400 separate missions.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:58:31am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Agh depression is the worst. Hang in there man.

Yeah I’ve been feeling a little angsty-depression stuff the past few days. Gonna take Friday off. Fortunately I have some time to burn.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:59:42am

re: #148 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m OK with Winter, I just don’t like having Winter in my Spring.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:01:08am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

The reward doesn’t mean much to the dog. This should mean something like doggie treats for life.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:01:27am

re: #147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

With this record of futility and inaccuracy Rage Furby is a shoe-in for a political pundit appointment at CNN or Fox.

We now return to Always Wrong with Chuck Johnson, Bill Kristol, and Dick Morris.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:01:48am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Exactly.

I’ve been really OK with November-March the past few years. Once April rolls around though, I want to be treated to some nice weather, consistently. At least above freezing. Somebody’s not listening this year.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:02:02am

re: #153 Belafon

The reward doesn’t mean much to the dog. This should mean something like doggie treats for life.

or being allowed to go on the bed whenever he wants to.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:02:38am

re: #155 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’ve been really OK with November-March the past few years. Once April rolls around though, I want to be treated to some nice weather, consistently. At least above freezing. Somebody’s not listening this year.

Yeah I hear ya. I don’t mind a little cold in Winter but once we get to March 21st, give me some warm weather.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:03:15am

re: #153 Belafon

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Just hope he’s treated better than a lot of disabled vets.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:03:28am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

That really does count for something. There is something to be said about the two ideologies of liberalism and conservatism when it comes to empathy.

The federal system has been really good to me for the past 17+ years.

And I must say I’ve been really fortunate in having some pretty great GOP bosses, too.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:04:27am

re: #159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The federal system has been really good to me for the past 17+ years.

And I must say I’ve been really fortunate in having some pretty great GOP bosses, too.

But as good as the fed system is, I know there are still some crappy places within it to work. I lucked out.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:04:56am

re: #159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The federal system has been really good to me for the past 17+ years.

And I must say I’ve been really fortunate in having some pretty great GOP bosses, too.

I really like the federal system since it’s stable. It’s part of why I’ve applied for many a federal position.

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Lidane  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:10:03am

Facebook Post

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:11:09am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

I think CCJ’s “plan” as far as his Gawker lawsuit goes, was to try and delay in the belief that Hogan’s suit would bankrupt the company before Chuck’s case was decided.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:11:46am

re: #162 Lidane

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Ann KKKoulter strikes again. I really wish the media would stop giving a platform to this bigoted witch. Her ideology is no different than the KKK’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:15:34am

Don Blankenship, the former Massey Energy CEO, was sentenced to one year in prison and an additional year on supervised release for conspiring to willfully violate federal mine safety and health standards at the Upper Big Branch Mine, where 29 miners died in a massive underground explosion.

U.S. District Judge Irene Berger sentenced Blankenship today, during a hearing held six years and one day after the Upper Big Branch explosion prompted an aggressive federal investigation of the mine disaster and Massey’s business and safety practices under Blankenship’s hands-on leadership.

She also fined Blankenship $250,000 — the maximum amount — due immediately. If the fine is not paid in 15 days, interest should be applied.
- See more at: wvgazettemail.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:16:44am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One year for actions that resulted in 23 deaths. Hardly seems like justice. I’m he’s spending some time behind bars but the fact of the matter is people caught with marijuana have spent longer time behind bars than this.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:16:59am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Ann KKKoulter strikes again. I really wish the media would stop giving a platform to this bigoted witch. Her ideology is no different than the KKK’s.

Besides which, that quote barely even makes any sense. It’s a weird mix of scaremongering and buzzwords. It’s like she’s barely even trying to put any thought into her screed these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:17:32am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

One year for actions that resulted in 23 deaths. Hardly seems like justice. I’m he’s spending some time behind bars but the fact of the matter is people caught with marijuana have spent longer time behind bars than this.

Agreed, but that was the maximum allowed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:17:49am

re: #167 makeitstop

Besides which, that quote barely even makes any sense. It’s a weird mix of scaremongering and buzzwords. It’s like she’s barely even trying to put any thought into her screed these days.

I think she’s drunk as usual on hate. I really hope we’re not hearing from Ann in 40 years like we have her ideological mother, Phyillis Schalfry.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:18:01am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Agreed, but that was the maximum allowed.

True, good point.

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Great White Snark  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:21:51am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now that makes more sense. Bartenders may not serve the inebriated.

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Great White Snark  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:22:21am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like she got a steak too.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:31:56am

The planners in my Chicago-area office clearly believe in global warming. We have an outdoor meeting planned for May 15, which was almost 80F last year, but is traditionally in the 50s.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:34:49am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Agreed, but that was the maximum allowed.

I hope he gets put in a real prison instead of a country club. A year of hard time will probably break a self-serving asshole like him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:35:53am

re: #174 stpaulbear

I hope he gets put in a real prison instead of a country club. A year of hard time will probably break a self-serving asshole like him.

I really hope so. I remember reading about this when it happened. It hit close to home as two of my great grandfathers were miners.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:38:39am

re: #23 Targetpractice

NY will be like every other win for her: “The vote’s rigged because if it wasn’t, Bernie would have totally won!”

They cannot comprehend that they are the exception, not the rule within the DNC.

They’ll probably tweet something insane about how the border between Vermont and NY is just arbitrary air, and can we possibly believe that people that close to Vermont would suddenly and inexplicably vote for Hillary.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:42:30am

re: #176 Mike Lamb

They’ll probably tweet something insane about how the border between Vermont and NY is just arbitrary air, and can we possibly believe that people that close to Vermont would suddenly and inexplicably vote for Hillary.

NEW YORK VALUES!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:43:47am

re: #176 Mike Lamb

They’ll probably tweet something insane about how the border between Vermont and NY is just arbitrary air, and can we possibly believe that people that close to Vermont would suddenly and inexplicably vote for Hillary.

I’m looking forward to it ending. I may be closer to Bernie ideologically than Clinton but Sanders diehards have been a huge turn off to me. It really has started to feel like a left wing Ron Paul where Bernie is always right and can never be wrong. In my experience, the Clinton backers can accept and acknowledge nuance much better.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:46:00am

I’m also tired of them ripping on the South. If the South had voted for Bernie, they wouldn’t be bitching but they can’t stand the fact that African-American Democratic voters, a much more loyal and higher voting consistency than my own demographic of under 30 year old white dudes at that voted for Clinton in large numbers. I mean. Boost your own candidate all the hell you want but don’t bitch about regions because they don’t think your candidate is great. I’m more inclined to Clinton than I am Sanders but I have nothing against Wisconsin and the other states that have chosen him over her.

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Great White Snark  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:46:00am

This 3D Printer Makes Robots That Can Walk Away as Soon as They’re Done

Creepy or Cool?
gizmodo.com

The GIF is way too big, even for twitter.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:47:39am

re: #180 Great White Snark

This 3D Printer Makes Robots That Can Walk Away as Soon as They’re Done

Creepy or Cool?
gizmodo.com

The GIF is way too big, even for twitter.

Wait until a printer can make copies of itself.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:49:54am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I’m looking forward to it ending. I may be closer to Bernie ideologically than Clinton but Sanders diehards have been a huge turn off to me. It really has started to feel like a left wing Ron Paul where Bernie is always right and can never be wrong. In my experience, the Clinton backers can accept and acknowledge nuance much better.

I just find it strange how the positions have hardened as this has gone on. Initially, it seemed a more “cordial” primary, where supporters of either candidate would have been comfortable voting for the other person if he/she was the nominee. Tribalism has (at least right now) taken over in a big way.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:50:21am

The irony of ironies though is that the “people’s choice” Sanders is losing considerably to Clinton in the popular vote but riiiiiiiiight the Democratic Party is stealing it for Clinton. Seems to me that the people of the Democratic party as of today think Clinton is the better choice. Honestly, the Superdelegate system isn’t ideal but then again, Bernie doesn’t help his case to them when he can’t even commit to campaign for down ticket races. It’s like Bernie thinks all we need is him and then it’s on to Progressuve utopia and I frankly think that’s pigheaded crap on his part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:51:23am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:51:31am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I’m also tired of them ripping on the South. If the South had voted for Bernie, they wouldn’t be bitching but they can’t stand the fact that African-American Democratic voters, a much more loyal and higher voting consistency than my own demographic of under 30 year old white dudes at that voted for Clinton in large numbers. I mean. Boost your own candidate all the hell you want but don’t bitch about regions because they don’t think your candidate is great. I’m more inclined to Clinton than I am Sanders but I have nothing against Wisconsin and the other states that have chosen him over her.

Yes…agreed. The “tell which primaries that Hillary won that she could win in the general” is 18 types of stupid. She’s just as likely as Bernie to win the same states in the general that Bernie won in the primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:51:33am

re: #182 Mike Lamb

I just find it strange how the positions have hardened as this has gone on. Initially, it seemed a more “cordial” primary, where supporters of either candidate would have been comfortable voting for the other person if he/she was the nominee. Tribalism has (at least right now) taken over in a big way.

I know. I think it’ll get better as we get closer to a finish and it becomes apparent that we’re going to have to do our damndest to prevent Trump or Cruz from becoming President. I really feel Sanders ironically has impressed me less as he’s done better in the primaries.

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Jayleia  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:51:37am

re: #180 Great White Snark

We must destroy them before we get a red, blue or green ending!

Yeah…Imma nerd

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:52:34am

re: #185 Mike Lamb

Yes…agreed. The “tell which primaries that Hillary won that she could win in the general” is 18 types of stupid. She’s just as likely as Bernie to win the same states in the general that Bernie won in the primaries.

You don’t see the Clinton campaign scoffing at Bernie winning Alaska, Idaho, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. I mean. It’s a turn off. The excuses don’t help either.

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Lidane  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:57:16am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I’m also tired of them ripping on the South.

Ugh. I almost got into an argument on the bus the other day because a couple of Bernie bros (including the driver!) were babbling about how the South is irrelevant to Democrats because they’re all going to vote for the GOP candidate in the general election anyway, and that Bernie’s performance in the rest of the country matters more because reasons.

I wanted to scream, but it’s the same bus I take from my office to downtown Austin before heading home. I see many of those same people all the time. I don’t want to fuck up my commute home because they’re morons.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:04:27am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just posted that on my FB page with a plea to support down-ticket dems. Unfortunately I unfriended my Berniebro FB fanatic friend yesterday (he was getting so shrill), so he won’t see it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:04:41am

Great news from Libya.

The self-declared National Salvation government, one of the rival governments of Libya, resigns and gives up power to the UN-backed Libyan Presidential Council in Tripoli.

The MB-Dominated Government in the West has disbanded.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:08:29am

re: #153 Belafon

The reward doesn’t mean much to the dog. This should mean something like doggie treats for life.

Yeah. Unless it is made with bacon the dog will just sniff it, signal that it is not explosive, and go on his way.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:08:40am

Sick day + Amazon = too much temptation. I’ve got a bunch of stuff in my cart but haven’t hit send yet.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:13:00am

re: #192 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Unless it is made with bacon the dog will just sniff it, signal that it is not explosive, and go on his way.

It had better be made with bacon.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:13:30am
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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:14:34am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

How is everyone though? Haven’t been on in a few days.

We’re all diehard Cruz fans now. Charles had another change of heart.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:15:08am

I see the Trumptards on #tcot have gone Full Metal Birther on Ted Cruz.

I’m not embedding any of their shit because who needs it here?

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withak  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:17:41am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

I see the Trumptards on #tcot have gone Full Metal Birther on Ted Cruz.

I’m not embedding any of their shit because who needs it here?

The only saving grace to the mess on our side of the aisle is the raging dumpster fire on the other side.

It’s entertaining, but I’m still way too nervous about November.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:22:15am

re: #196 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

We’re all diehard Cruz fans now. Charles had another change of heart.

The first of April was 5 days ago.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:23:02am

re: #191 Ziggy_TARDIS

Great news from Libya.

The MB-Dominated Government in the West has disbanded.

I wonder if the US is (or has been) involved in the negotiation process that has led to what might turn out to be a (reasonably) unified and legitimate government in Libya? One hopes (I should probably read more FP blogs!).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:23:29am

my day so far…

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:25:28am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

mt day so far…

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I like the tiny feet sticking out at the top of the pic.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:25:51am

I knew this guy was a great chef, but I had no idea the depth of his knowledge.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:26:49am

re: #199 wrenchwench

The first of April was 5 days ago.

That’s when Charles changed!

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Testy Toad T  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:28:15am

re: #185 Mike Lamb

Yes…agreed. The “tell which primaries that Hillary won that she could win in the general” is 18 types of stupid. She’s just as likely as Bernie to win the same states in the general that Bernie won in the primaries.

It’s probably the boldest reflection of the fact that Sanders and his surrogates really have not done any outreach whatsoever. There’s no “why do you support Hillary”, it’s all “why don’t you support Sanders”. Anyone who disagrees, anyone who finds fault with Sanders, is not just disagreeing. They are wrong, they are stupid, they are misinformed, they are paid off by the slimy monolith of the Clinton Machine.

And all I hear is handwringing about wah wah how will Clinton eventually turn out Sanders’ voters. You know what I never hear? How Sanders, if he somehow miraculously wins the nomination, will gracefully appeal to me and my fellow Clinton backers.

You know why? Because we all fucking know Clinton supporters will crawl over broken glass to vote Democratic in November. It’s a sick damned joke sitting right out in the open.

I hate this stupid fucking primary and its blue-unicorn-shitting New England Ron Paul.

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Jenner7  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:28:40am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:29:50am
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Testy Toad T  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:31:50am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

All my grammarNSDAP eyes can see here is a heap-of irritating unnecessary hyphens.

RIP, though.

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Jenner7  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:36:45am

One whole year.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:36:58am

I would like to make a contribution to the political lexicon.

We have uninformed: those who do not know X.
We have misinformed: those who think they know Y, even though it is actually X.

We also have malinformed: those who have been drinking from the poisonous well of sources that are intentionally spreading the falsehood of Z for their own gains.

Fox Noise listeners, Breitbart readers, and your everyday climate change skeptics are not misinformed. I’m misinformed when I say that it’s 55F in Chicago today because that’s the average for today’s date. They are malinformed. They believe the bad, wrong things they believe because their sources have been lying to them and playing them for fools.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:37:49am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #208 Testy Toad T

Awkward construction of that post, but it does seem that Merle Haggard has indeed passed away on his birthday. RIP Merle.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:37:58am

re: #210 Testy Toad T

I would like to make a contribution to the political lexicon.

We have uninformed: those who do not know X.
We have misinformed: those who think they know Y, even though it is actually X.

We also have malinformed: those who have been drinking from the poisonous well of sources that are intentionally spreading the falsehood of Z for their own gains.

Fox Noise listeners, Breitbart readers, and your everyday climate change skeptics are not misinformed. I’m misinformed when I say that it’s 55F in Chicago today because that’s the average for today’s date. They are malinformed. They believe the bad, wrong things they believe because their sources have been lying to them and playing them for fools.

I love that word.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:38:24am

Shit another musical legend? RIP Merle.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:38:47am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

RIP Merle.

Rolling Stone has a story from Feb.1 about his recent pneumonia scare. The headline is pretty sad now.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:40:05am

re: #209 Jenner7

IN A ROW?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:41:48am
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:43:07am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds awful.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:46:39am

re: #195 Kragar

Mississippi?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:48:17am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I honestly never liked baloney. That just sounds wrong.

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Lidane  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:48:50am

Dammit.

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:49:51am

re: #195 Kragar

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It is too bad that the only thing that seems to persuade governors that these bills may not be the best idea is the lost revenue but because Mississippi doesn’t have any major business, that won’t be a factor here.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:50:20am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth


A great man. RIP, Merle.
A page about him from a couple of years ago:

Merle Haggard: ‘It’s Criminal What They Do to Our President’

“It was also nice to meet Obama and find him very different from the media makeout. It’s really almost criminal what they [the media] do with our President,” Haggard tells Rolling Stone. “There seems to be no shame or anything. They call him all kinds of names all day long, saying he’s doing certain things that he’s not. It’s just a big old political game that I don’t want to be part of. There are people spending their lives putting him down.”

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:50:49am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I honestly never liked baloney. That just sounds wrong.

We used to always have butcher-shop baloney around when I was a kid. I remember fried baloney as being pretty good.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:51:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:51:20am

re: #223 stpaulbear

We used to always have butcher-shop baloney around when I was a kid. I remember fried baloney as being pretty good.

yep, but just not on a glazed donut…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:52:51am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

“1 Share” and it was probably himself.

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:53:51am

re: #180 Great White Snark

This 3D Printer Makes Robots That Can Walk Away as Soon as They’re Done

Creepy or Cool?
gizmodo.com

The GIF is way too big, even for twitter.

re: #181 Belafon

Time to shut out the lights and lock the doors…Skynet is upon us!

///

Wait until a printer can make copies of itself.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:54:34am

re: #223 stpaulbear

Pan fried spam with honey mustard!

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:55:56am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, but just not on a glazed donut…

Yes - no.

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withak  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:55:58am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oscar Mayer-style baloney out of a package is just plain disgusting.

Bologna from a butcher shop, on the other hand, is delicious. The butcher in the town I grew up in has the most wonderful smell, mostly due to their bologna, which my mom would bring home for us to snack on — cold, not fried.

I don’t know if I’d like either on a glazed donut, but I wouldn’t even think about trying that sandwich if it were the processed crap you get at the grocery store.

(And yes, I spelled them differently on purpose.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:57:39am

re: #230 withak

Any processed pre-packaged “lunch meat” is pretty much disgusting.

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withak  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:59:54am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any processed pre-packaged “lunch meat” is pretty much disgusting.

There are exceptions. I buy what you might call a “premium” brand of lunch meats from Target; I think Applegate Farms is the brand. Not as good as out of the deli case, but our Target doesn’t have a deli, so…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:04:07am

re: #230 withak

Oscar Mayer-style baloney out of a package is just plain disgusting.

Bologna from a butcher shop, on the other hand, is delicious. The butcher in the town I grew up in has the most wonderful smell, mostly due to their bologna, which my mom would bring home for us to snack on — cold, not fried.

I don’t know if I’d like either on a glazed donut, but I wouldn’t even think about trying that sandwich if it were the processed crap you get at the grocery store.

(And yes, I spelled them differently on purpose.)

Yeah I guess I just had the Oscar Mayer brand and it just grossed me out. Fried sounds nasty honestly. I’m more partial to kielbasa though. I like that hot or good.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:26:36am

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel

Especially given who probably make up a large part of his fan base, I like that he said “our” President.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:27:14am

re: #205 Testy Toad T

I hate this stupid fucking primary and its blue-unicorn-shitting New England Ron Paul.

May we start calling him NERP now?

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NotAgain  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:04:47pm

re: #227 TedStriker

Classic SF short story: “Business as Usual, with Alterations’ by Murray Leinster I think. Once again SF predicts the future.


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