Leading White Supremacist Says Trump Is Bringing New Legitimacy to Racism

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White supremacist Jared Taylor gave an interview to an “alt-right” podcast earlier this month and predicted Donald Trump’s administration (assuming he’s elected; shudder) would be stacked with people who think like Taylor, and expressed his gratitude that Trump is “making it impossible” for people to ignore this vile racist movement.

“I’m more optimistic now than I have been at any point in 25 years of trying to wake white people up to this terrible crisis that they face,” Taylor said. “I think that Donald Trump is certainly an important ingredient in that.

Trump, Taylor said, is saying things that he has been saying for years, only it’s impossible for people to ignore him because he’s raising these questions at “a level at which they’ve never been raised ever before.”

Taylor prefers to call himself a “white nationalist,” but I refuse to use the term he wants us to use. He’s a pure and simple white supremacist and I’m not going to play his game. These are the people riding along on Donald Trump’s coattails.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 2:19:52pm

This is Jared Taylor who I believe many mainstream conservatives have defended in the past. And this really is the scary thing about Turmp, he is bringing legitimacy to racism in a way that past racist politicians like Duke could not because Trump has a huge party backing him whereas Duke was repudiated by the national GOP when he sought the Senate in the early 90’s. The GOP is a theocratic and racist party, there are no ifs and buts about that.

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Belafon  May 25, 2016 • 2:20:01pm

When Clinton wants to go negative, the purpose of which is to drive down your opponents numbers, she can put this statement in a commercial.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 2:21:53pm

re: #2 Belafon

When Clinton wants to go negative, the purpose of which is to drive down your opponents numbers, she can put this statement in a commercial.

The praise Duke has given him should work too. Use images of Klan members for that one. Trump needs to be exposed to the world as the racist bullying prick he is.

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2016 • 2:22:32pm
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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 2:22:54pm

Indeed. I just posted this downstairs:

W? T? F? This is the first I’ve heard of this:

White high school football players in Idaho charged in rape of black, disabled teammate with a coat hanger

Maybe they were just trying to make America great again like Trump says.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 2:23:56pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

Indeed. I just posted this downstairs:

Maybe they were just trying to make America great again like Trump says.

Sick fucks. But boys will be boys I guess. //

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2016 • 2:24:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 2:25:04pm

oh look…it’s finally after 5 o’clock in the Backwoods…

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2016 • 2:28:02pm

One white guy thinks Trump made a mistake going after the brown woman:

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 25, 2016 • 2:30:51pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Not because it was wrong. But because it doesn’t look good. Optics!

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CriticalDragon1177  May 25, 2016 • 2:31:48pm

Charles Johnson,

Dear God, this is nightmare fuel! Everyone make sure you vote for the Democratic nominee come November. Its never a good thing when hardcore racists are happy. I don’t want to lose any of the progress we’ve made since the beginning of the civil rights movement.

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CriticalDragon1177  May 25, 2016 • 2:33:25pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

This is Jared Taylor who I believe many mainstream conservatives have defended in the past. And this really is the scary thing about Turmp, he is bringing legitimacy to racism in a way that past racist politicians like Duke could not because Trump has a huge party backing him whereas Duke was repudiated by the national GOP when he sought the Senate in the early 90’s. The GOP is a theocratic and racist party, there are no ifs and buts about that.

The entire GOP should be ashamed of themselves. Its not the party of Lincoln anymore.

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Belafon  May 25, 2016 • 2:34:36pm

Keep this around for when people start the “Democrats are the real racists.”

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 2:34:54pm

re: #10 GlutenFreeJesus

Not because it was wrong. But because it doesn’t look good. Optics!

Which really at the core is most of what the GOP’s problems with Trump are. It’s NOT that he’s a racist, it’s that he’s not subtle about it like past GOP nominees have been.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 2:35:22pm

re: #12 CriticalDragon1177

The entire GOP should be ashamed of themselves. Its not the party of Lincoln anymore.

They haven’t been the party of Lincoln since arguably the Eisenhower years.

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nines09  May 25, 2016 • 2:36:06pm

And they will still line up to kiss his Magnificent Ring. Yep. You built THAT. Now lie down with it and don’t whimper. Good boy.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 25, 2016 • 2:38:05pm

Taylor is absolutely right, you know. Trump and the GOP have brought racism back into the mainstream.
They have done the same for paranoid conspiracy theories. Since Hillary Clinton is a leading target for such claims, the stage is set for a real showdown. Hillary will either destroy the crazy right, or the US will join Russia and certain others as a country ruled by conspiracy theorists.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2016 • 2:40:17pm
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lawhawk  May 25, 2016 • 2:41:16pm

Wont matter that Trump polls as well as he is with the conservatives and GOP base. The “elites” will claim No True Conservative™ because that’s how they roll in the Shire. And that’ll be their ongoing excuse from now until the end of time.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 2:43:28pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

This guy is a member of Bible Believers.

There will be LOTS more of this now that Trump has mainstreamed it and made it acceptable. I wonder if the courts will grant the same 1A protections to people who disrupt Trump rallies? I’m not crazy about Volokh, but he explained some of the legal points in a WaPo article (e.g. incitement, fighting words, heckler’s veto, etc.)

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bratwurst  May 25, 2016 • 2:47:59pm

I will never understand how these white nationalist Trump fans can reconcile themselves with his close Jewish ties and stronger pro-Israel stance than anyone else still running for President.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 2:50:16pm

re: #21 bratwurst

Hold your friends close and your enemies closer? It’s just a matter of time till he turns full-bore antisemite. More & more putrid filth is oozing out every day.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2016 • 2:51:32pm

Of course, the right wingers are predictable in their response - attacking the union for offshoring and destroying jobs. Right - because the companies that made insane business decisions and put out crappy cars bears no responsibility (like penny pinching on fit/finish or refusing to consider fuel economy for decades). That’s all the UAW fault.

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EPR-radar  May 25, 2016 • 2:52:05pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Which really at the core is most of what the GOP’s problems with Trump are. It’s NOT that he’s a racist, it’s that he’s not subtle about it like past GOP nominees have been.

The 2016 general election looks like it will be a referendum on racism and assorted other bigotries in a way that may be unprecedented.

In prior elections where civil rights was a major issue, a stark partisan divide on whether or not racism was good wasn’t really present. Both parties had racists and anti-racists in significant enough numbers that no partisan conclusions could be drawn.

Not any more. A half-century spent wooing disgruntled racists as part of the civil rights realignment starting in the 1960s has firmly established the Republicans as the party of racism.

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Timothy Watson  May 25, 2016 • 2:53:29pm

re: #23 lawhawk

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Of course, the right wingers are predictable in their response - attacking the union for offshoring and destroying jobs. Right - because the companies that made insane business decisions and put out crappy cars bears no responsibility (like penny pinching on fit/finish or refusing to consider fuel economy for decades). That’s all the UAW fault.

I sensed a disturbance…as if a thousand BernieBros cried out in terror…

…and no one gave a rat’s ass.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 2:53:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 2:53:35pm

re: #23 lawhawk

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Of course, the right wingers are predictable in their response - attacking the union for offshoring and destroying jobs. Right - because the companies that made insane business decisions and put out crappy cars bears no responsibility (like penny pinching on fit/finish or refusing to consider fuel economy for decades). That’s all the UAW fault.

It’s the UAW’s fault because of the HUGE job-killing wages and workplace safety measures negotiated on behalf of union members….

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 2:54:44pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Which really at the core is most of what the GOP’s problems with Trump are. It’s NOT that he’s a racist, it’s that he’s not subtle about it like past GOP nominees have been.

Same thing with the Conspiracy Theories. His fans love him because “He’s not a politician!”, by which they mean he openly spouts the crazy bullshit that the other candidates dogwhistle and hint at.

This election really will be about whether or not the Crazy takes over.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2016 • 2:54:45pm

re: #23 lawhawk

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Of course, the right wingers are predictable in their response - attacking the union for offshoring and destroying jobs. Right - because the companies that made insane business decisions and put out crappy cars bears no responsibility (like penny pinching on fit/finish or refusing to consider fuel economy for decades). That’s all the UAW fault.

The Bros will be more fun to listen to. I’m gonna guess they’ll go with “corrupt” and accuse the UAW bosses of endorsing her over the membership, who all totally want Bernie. Probably find a union member or two who says he hates Hillary as “proof.”

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bratwurst  May 25, 2016 • 2:54:50pm

re: #22 CuriousLurker

Hold your friends close and your enemies closer? It’s just a matter of time till he turns full-bore antisemite. More & more putrid filth is oozing out every day.

I think that is it. They hate Mexicans and Muslims more than Jews.

In the highly unlikely event that Bernie ends up as the nominee, we are destined to see levels of antisemitism unknown in this country for generations.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 2:57:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 2:57:57pm

re: #30 bratwurst

I think that is it. They hate Mexicans and Muslims more than Jews.

In the highly unlikely event that Bernie ends up as the nominee, we are destined to see levels of antisemitism unknown in this country for generations.

Until a Jewish journalist writes something Trump, or Mrs. Trump v3.0, doesn’t like.

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iossarian  May 25, 2016 • 2:58:53pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

Yay masked protesters :(

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 2:59:17pm

re: #31 Kragar

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He looks supremely qualified to determine that. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 2:59:41pm

re: #26 CuriousLurker

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compare this to the outright lethal threats made by “patriots” during the Bundy Ranch standoff.
The “patriots” keep threatening a new civil war, but legal protests frighten them.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:00:16pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh yeah, I forgot about that journalist.

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freetoken  May 25, 2016 • 3:00:43pm

re: #33 iossarian

A key gambit by Drumpfskind is that he can count on anarchists to bring a facile validity to his claims.

It’s easy to push people’s buttons and Drumpfskind knows exactly which buttons to push to get the reaction he wants.

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No Depression  May 25, 2016 • 3:01:03pm

re: #31 Kragar

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:02:22pm

re: #33 iossarian

I suspect it’s going to get a lot uglier before it gets better.

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stpaulbear  May 25, 2016 • 3:03:00pm

re: #38 No Depression

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Well doesn’t this sound like a fun gathering…

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2016 • 3:03:54pm

Selling xenophobia and hatred to a degraded right wing base.

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No Depression  May 25, 2016 • 3:04:13pm

Someone looks happy with himself…

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majii  May 25, 2016 • 3:04:14pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

It appears that the ringleader had been sent to the small Idaho town from Texas because he had a history of being a bully in his school district in Texas and getting into trouble there. According to the WP article, he’s back in Texas now and will graduate high school soon. The parents of the kid who was attacked are white and adopted him when he was four. The WP article also says some of the school’s officials are named in the lawsuit because they knew what was going on and did nothing about it. The reason they refused to act is because the ringleader has ties to prominent persons in Dietrich. I can’t say I haven’t seen this before. I saw similar things happen in the small GA school district from which I retired. If a kid had ties to important persons in the community and/or was a good athlete, his bad behavior was often overlooked/excused. In some cases, even bad grades were doctored so that the kid could get a college scholarship to play football, which would make the district/town look good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 3:04:46pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Selling xenophobia and hatred to a degraded right wing base.

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Mexican flags are bad, but confederate ones are patriotic!
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Stanley Sea  May 25, 2016 • 3:04:55pm

I just downloaded this

Drawn from the pages of the national bestseller, The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton, this new FREE e-book reveals her story and ultimate vindication.

hillarybook.nationalmemo.com

Joe Conason & Gene Lyons.

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nines09  May 25, 2016 • 3:05:08pm

re: #31 Kragar

And he went to COLLEGE too. Must know something….

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iossarian  May 25, 2016 • 3:05:13pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

I suspect it’s going to get a lot uglier before it gets better.

Media will love a scrap.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:05:49pm

re: #36 CuriousLurker

Oh yeah, I forgot about that journalist.

Pretty revealing that so many of Trump’s supporters had such vile antisemitic imagery right at their fingertips. Perhaps they keep separate subfolders in their Pictures folder - “Bitches”, “Thugs”, “Messicans”, “MOOOOZlims”, “Jooze”?

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:06:10pm

re: #18 lawhawk

ABC poll shows 74% of self-ID conservatives lining up behind Trump. I think they’re mistaken, not morally obtuse. pic.twitter.com

Because the real-world consequences of the first state are so much better than those of the second. Fuck them, and I don’t care if they’re Principalities and Thrones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:08:28pm

re: #46 nines09

And he went to COLLEGE too. Must know something….

I noticed that. Kinda like a shirt that says, ‘SPORTS TEAM’.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2016 • 3:08:35pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Selling xenophobia and hatred to a degraded right wing base.

[The protesters in New Mexico were thugs who were flying the Mexican flag. The rally inside was big and beautiful, but outside, criminals!]

We’re all criminals on the outside. Inside, we’re beautiful!

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 3:09:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:09:39pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

We’re all criminals on the outside. Inside, we’re beautiful!

I dunno. I’ve seen the insides of animals in real life, and of humans on TV, and I think we look better on the outside.

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freetoken  May 25, 2016 • 3:10:42pm

My guess (and it is that, even if I kind-of have a clue about humans having now lived long enough) is that Drumpfskind will start to ratchet up the rhetoric but it will not be monotonically so.

As difficult as it may seem, Drumpfskind can go farther than he already has.

However, he will need to be careful how he does it. I suspect that like we saw with the mini-riot last night, Drumpfskind will count on an ever increasing blowback from Hispanics.

Part of being a strong man is promising security… but there will not be a market for security unless the customers feel insecure. That is why in all those GOP “debates” the past 3 election cycles the terrorism card was played so strongly.

Drumpfskind needs to define his support base more clearly while also growing it - difficult to do. But it can be done if Americans start feeling more afraid. Problem for Drumpfskind is that we are not in difficult economic times. So the fear people experience has to come from some place other than the prospect of being unemployed.

I expect Drumpfskind to really push the lawlessness card going forward. Even more empty platitudes for police, etc.

I still think the negatives that Drumpskind have are still a giant hill for him to climb, though. He might get lucky and their is a terrible international incident in which American lives are lost - that would be a jackpot for Drumpfskind.

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majii  May 25, 2016 • 3:10:43pm

re: #38 No Depression

Dude is a d*mned fool. He wouldn’t be here if a woman hadn’t given birth to him. Giving birth and raising kids to be successful adults, I think, should qualify a woman for any job. Dudes like him don’t know how much pain is involved in giving birth, and I think if he were ever pregnant and went into labor, he wouldn’t be able to deal with the pain. Wimp.

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Stanley Sea  May 25, 2016 • 3:11:49pm

re: #46 nines09

And he went to COLLEGE too. Must know something….

People identified him as a local high school AP calculus teacher.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:12:00pm

re: #47 iossarian

Sadly, yeah. *sigh*

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stpaulbear  May 25, 2016 • 3:12:36pm

re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White

John Belushi - Animal House

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:12:42pm

re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White

Pretty revealing that so many of Trump’s supporters had such vile antisemitic imagery right at their fingertips. Perhaps they keep separate subfolders in their Pictures folder - “Bitches”, “Thugs”, “Messicans”, “MOOOOZlims”, “Jooze”?

It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if they did.

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nines09  May 25, 2016 • 3:12:48pm

re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White

I noticed that. Kinda like a shirt that says, ‘SPORTS TEAM’.

And all he got was a lousy T shirt and non transferable credits. And contacts with disconnected phone numbers. And defunct email addys.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2016 • 3:13:13pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. I’ve seen the insides of animals in real life, and of humans on TV, and I think we look better on the outside.

OK, at least we’re big inside.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 3:13:48pm
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nines09  May 25, 2016 • 3:14:33pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

People identified him as a local high school AP calculus teacher.

Must make his female students very comfortable. Or maybe they already know. He must have worn out his “DICK” T shirt.

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stpaulbear  May 25, 2016 • 3:17:19pm

re: #52 Kragar

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It’s not going to be a big step for the libertarian Berniebots. They already don’t believe in unions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:17:47pm

re: #64 stpaulbear

It’s not going to be a big step for the libertarian Berniebots. They already don’t believe in unions.

But I bet they believe in corporations.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:19:02pm

re: #64 stpaulbear

It’s not going to be a big step for the libertarian Berniebots. They already don’t believe in unions.

If they call themselves Libertarian Socialists, they already have at least one conceptual shortcoming.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:19:04pm

What Islamophobia? It just PC bullshit, Muslims trying to avoid criticism of Islam.

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Jenner7  May 25, 2016 • 3:21:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 3:22:22pm

re: #68 Jenner7

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“verbs”???

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2016 • 3:22:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:22:43pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

“verbs”???

Forget it. He’s rolling.

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stpaulbear  May 25, 2016 • 3:23:25pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

“verbs”???

He’s going to female all of these protesters.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:24:11pm

re: #18 lawhawk

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If he loses 26% of “self-ID conservatives” that’s huge. He loses the election right there.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:26:55pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

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Haha that’s cute.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 3:27:23pm

I’ve been looking at and reading about these protests and people finally standing up and fighting back and it occurs to me that these fearful white farts who want to “take their country back” are being introduced to the other side of “we’re mad as hell and we’re not taking it anymore.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:27:40pm

re: #63 nines09

Must make his female students very comfortable. Or maybe they already know. He must have worn out his “DICK” T shirt.

Females shouldn’t be worrying their pretty heads with math….

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:27:43pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

“verbs”???

Me fail English? That’s unpossible.

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sagehen  May 25, 2016 • 3:28:40pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:30:09pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

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Who the fuck IS this guy?

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:30:12pm

re: #67 CuriousLurker

What Islamophobia? It just PC bullshit, Muslims trying to avoid criticism of Islam.

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Waiting for some islamophobic dimwit to take on a bunch of Catholic nuns. It won’t go well.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 25, 2016 • 3:30:12pm

re: #78 sagehen

Made the mistake of going into San Francisco last year during Fleet Week. Never again.

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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:31:32pm

Meanwhile, in MIssissippi:

Family Kills Escaped Prisoner Holding Them Hostage

The husband told police the man forced them back inside, tied him up, stabbed him in the shoulder and held him, his wife and son hostage in a bathroom.

Hours later, the wife managed to escape the bathroom, before coming back with a gun and shooting McCloud, officials said.

She freed her husband who then fired more shots, killing McCloud, officials said. […]

abc7.com

Can’t help but wonder how she was able to escape the bathroom, but her husband wasn’t. The article says hubby’s injuries were minor.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2016 • 3:32:11pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Waiting for some islamophobic dimwit to take on a bunch of Catholic nuns. It won’t go well.

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Is that The Order of the Purple Hearts?!?

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2016 • 3:32:45pm
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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:32:53pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

Is that The Order of the Purple Hearts?!?

Passionists. Very passionate.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 3:32:56pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Maybe got out thru a window husband couldn’t fit thru, or climb thru because of his arm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:35:58pm
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CuriousLurker  May 25, 2016 • 3:36:11pm

re: #86 Kragar

Maybe got out thru a window husband couldn’t fit thru, or climb thru because of his arm

Ah, window, right. Didn’t think of that.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:37:43pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Ah, window, right. Didn’t think of that.

Or quietly tearing a hole through two surfaces of drywall. The 18 or 24 inch stud spacing would be the limiting dimension.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 3:38:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:39:35pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Or quietly tearing a hole through two surfaces of drywall. The 18 or 24 inch stud spacing would be the limiting dimension.

24” stud spacing? That sounds kinda not-to-code.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 25, 2016 • 3:40:43pm

re: #90 Kragar

Clinton loses to Trump, today. Bernie destroys Trump

President Dukakis would like to discuss the predictive value of polls in May.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 3:41:38pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

I hear he is being joined by special guest, President Guiliani.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:43:00pm

re: #90 Kragar

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That fallacy again?Oh and terrible Clinton polls within the MOE in NC. I just love how Bernie supporters think his polling against Trump is going to stay exactly the same.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:43:39pm

re: #93 Kragar

I hear he is being joined by special guest, President Guiliani.

President Lieberman (Lieberman once led the 2004 Dem candidates too) will be joining too.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:44:29pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

24” stud spacing? That sounds kinda not-to-code.

Yankee code, maybe.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:45:30pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

President Lieberman (Lieberman once led the 2004 Dem candidates too) will be joining too.

Well, I really didn’t know what an asshole he was then. My reasoning was: “He was actually elected Vice-President once….”

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:46:37pm

re: #97 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I really didn’t know what an asshole he was then. My reasoning was: “He was actually elected Vice-President once….”

A lot of people didn’t though I think a lot of people I knew didn’t like his hawkishness and his crusade against video games and music though that said he had given no indication of what he would become. Wonder what he thinks of Trump.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 25, 2016 • 3:46:47pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

“verbs”???

Yeah, he’s going to be Hispaniced, femaled, and veteraned right out of politics and back to his over-decorated penthouse den when this is over.

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majii  May 25, 2016 • 3:47:54pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…it occurs to me that these fearful white farts who want to “take their country back” are being introduced to the other side of “we’re mad as hell and we’re not taking it anymore.”“

And, they don’t like having to “eat their peas.” Those who are protesting them are being called un-American thugs who are infringing on their right to assemble. Never mind the way they showed their ugly, natural *sses at Tea Party events a few years ago.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 3:49:32pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

That fallacy again?Oh and terrible Clinton polls within the MOE in NC. I just love how Bernie supporters think his polling against Trump is going to stay exactly the same.

Why do they think the GOP is desperately ratfucking every primary they can for him? And laying off criticizing him for now? Because they know he’d go down worse than Landon in the General.

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2016 • 3:55:26pm
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majii  May 25, 2016 • 3:55:36pm

re: #101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’d beat the “Socialism is Evil” horse to death in a GE against Sanders. Although most Americans really like socialism in practice, they fear the word thanks to right-wing propaganda and conspiracy-peddling.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  May 25, 2016 • 3:56:53pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

Oh boy!!!!

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thedopefishlives  May 25, 2016 • 3:57:02pm

Evening Lizardim.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 3:57:09pm

re: #103 majii

They’d beat the “Socialism is Evil” horse to death in a GE against Sanders. Although most Americans really like socialism in practice, they fear the word thanks to right-wing propaganda and conspiracy-peddling.

But Bernie’d be different. Honestly, I’m thinking that if I have questions about how his approach and I’m definitely to the left of the average GE voter, how is the average GE voter going to feel? And even if Bernie got in, there is definitely legitimate questions about how effective he would be. He’s not a good leader, I’m sorry but he’s not.

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2016 • 3:57:26pm
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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 3:57:32pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

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Even in that photo, I think he’s exaggerating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 3:58:44pm

re: #101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why do they think the GOP is desperately ratfucking every primary they can for him? And laying off criticizing him for now? Because they know he’d go down worse than Landon in the General.

They just don’t see it that way.
Not even a glimmer.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 4:00:30pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

They just don’t see it that way.
Not even a glimmer.

You know, it really would be one thing if Bernie had actually vowed to campaign for downticket candidates. He just doesn’t seem to value coalition building. They say he’s building a movement but is he really?

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majii  May 25, 2016 • 4:03:38pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I think he’s destroyed any chance he ever had of winning the nomination on a Democratic Party ticket because instead of espousing unity, he decided to burn the whole joint down if he didn’t have his way, and I’m offended by his and his supporters’ behavior. Hell, he didn’t declare himself a member of the Democratic Party until he wanted to run for POTUS. Before then, he remained an Independent.

One thing an invited guest in my house had better not try doing is taking over my home where I pay the bills.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2016 • 4:05:17pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

You know, it really would be one thing if Bernie had actually vowed to campaign for downticket candidates. He just doesn’t seem to value coalition building. They say he’s building a movement but is he really?

He could have built on the Obama Coalition, but instead he went out of his way to insult every single person involved, up to and including President Obama.

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 4:05:54pm

I remember Bernie Sanders—he ran for President once.

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Kragar  May 25, 2016 • 4:07:14pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

President of what?

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2016 • 4:08:12pm

re: #114 Kragar

President of what?

America, back when they had elections.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2016 • 4:09:39pm

re: #111 majii

I think he’s destroyed any chance he ever had of winning the nomination on a Democratic Party ticket because instead of espousing unity, he decided to burn the whole joint down if he didn’t have his way, and I’m offended by his and his supporters’ behavior. Hell, he didn’t declare himself a member of the Democratic Party until he wanted to run for POTUS. Before then, he remained an Independent.

One thing an invited guest in my house had better not try doing is taking over my home where I pay the bills.

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

He could have built on the Obama Coalition, but instead he went out of his way to insult every single person involved, up to and including President Obama.

Agreed on all counts. He instead focused his energy on this whimiscal notion that he could win with the White Working Class and young whites and alienate everyone else. He’s spent too much time in Vermont me thikns.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 25, 2016 • 4:10:35pm

Bernie will latch on to this latest “news” about the emails. Any second now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 4:10:46pm

Let’s remember the Socialist Party’s platform, that the Democratic Party and the Roosevelt wing of the Republican Party adopted in its entirety out of fear:

—Direct election of US Senators
—Unemployment insurance and Workman’s Compensation
—Public schools run by elected school boards
—Public parks and recreational areas
—The Initiative, Referendum, and Recall

There was some more, but those are the main points. What percentage of Americans really want to give all of that up? (Except to keep the “wrong people” from taking advantage of them, that is.)

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KGxvi  May 25, 2016 • 4:15:31pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Meanwhile, in MIssissippi:

Can’t help but wonder how she was able to escape the bathroom, but her husband wasn’t. The article says hubby’s injuries were minor.

Could be she escaped through a window that she could fit through and he couldn’t?

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2016 • 4:23:02pm

This is dumb.

He’s handing Florida over to his own hand picked political director Karen Giorno because she ran his primary campaign there.

Typically, the role of a national political director involves deciding which states to compete in and how to divide resources. Removing the largest battleground states from that portfolio is a dramatic change to the job description.

Wiley remains in charge of the rest of the electoral map, according to a person familiar with the campaign’s decision, who added that Trump has been unhappy with Wiley’s management of the political team, including clashes with Giorno in Florida.

So dumb, so stupid. This shows that Trump is already so far on the defensive in Florida that he’s desperately shaking up staff. Now Giorno will be in the position of having to ask Wiley for help in the Fall with phone banking and out of state canvassing resources. What should be one seamless organization just fractured significantly before the general election has even really begun.

“We had an overwhelming win in Florida, and this state is personal for Mr. Trump,” Giorno said in an interview. “He wants to win. I have a record of winning, and we’re going with a winning team.”

Giorno declined to say how many staff she’ll hire in the state or to discuss the size of the budget, adding that the particulars are still being discussed internally. She said she hoped to bring on staff with experience working with the Florida Republican Party, the Republican National Committee or former presidential campaigns.

They clearly don’t get how a national campaign works. This is the kind of libertarian business philosophy that destroyed Sears, creating pointless feudalistic territory divisions within an organizational structure and encouraging competition instead of cooperation.

So.fucking.dumb.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 25, 2016 • 4:28:02pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

This is dumb.

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He’s handing Florida over to his own hand picked political director Karen Giorno because she ran his primary campaign there.

So dumb, so stupid. This shows that Trump is already so far on the defensive in Florida that he’s desperately shaking up staff. Now Giorno will be in the position of having to ask Wiley for help in the Fall with phone banking and out of state canvassing resources. What should be one seamless organization just fractured significantly before the general election has even really begun.

They clearly don’t get how a national campaign works. This is the kind of libertarian business philosophy that destroyed Sears, creating pointless feudalistic territory divisions within an organizational structure and encouraging competition instead of cooperation.

So.fucking.dumb.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

—Napoleon Bonaparte

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The Vicious Babushka  May 25, 2016 • 4:30:54pm

Wow, Bernie realizes there is somebody to oppose other than Hillary.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2016 • 4:38:04pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

You know, it really would be one thing if Bernie had actually vowed to campaign for downticket candidates. He just doesn’t seem to value coalition building. They say he’s building a movement but is he really?

He seems to think building a socialist/populist movement based only on voters is the way to go. I think he knows he doesn’t have the political connections to rely on them for any coalition.

And in a way, Sanders seems to think he can be carried into power by those voters alone. In my opinion that is very naive thinking as he would be isolated by both sides. If Obama couldn’t get cooperation, Bernie would face an even tougher time of it.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2016 • 4:46:54am

Perhaps Charles could write code that shrinks Mr. Trump’s picture when one cursors over it?

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Great White Snark  May 26, 2016 • 7:39:47am

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