Paul Ryan Says Trump’s Attack on Judge Is ‘Textbook’ Racism, but Still Supports Him

Craven weasels line up to denounce, yet still support
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One Republican after another is coming out to denounce Donald Trump’s ugly attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel; the latest is House Speaker Paul Ryan, who today called Trump’s comments “textbook racism.”

But like the other GOP politicians who’ve made it clear they understand Trump is a noxious bigot playing to a degraded base of far right voters, Ryan is still supporting him for president. Power is the overriding Republican imperative, and if that means supporting someone who uses rhetoric straight out of the Ku Klux Klan era, so be it.

U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan strongly disavowed Donald Trump’s allegations of bias against a Hispanic judge, calling such remarks the “textbook definition of a racist comment,” even as he reiterated his support for Trump’s White House bid.

Ryan, speaking at an event to unveil U.S. House Republicans’ policy proposals, said the comments by the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee were unacceptable and indefensible.

“I regret those comments that he made. Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment. I think that should be absolutely disavowed,” Ryan told reporters.

Nonetheless, Ryan said that a Trump presidency would be preferable to a White House occupied by Democrat Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee.

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172 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:45:56am

GOP is now the battered housewife, complaining but still making excuses for her abusive spouse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:46:48am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:47:25am

As noted below: In Paul Ryan’s “world”, if someone robs a bank, they are not a criminal, they merely committed a criminal act.

Basically, Paul Ryan is presenting himself to be 100% politically correct by refusing to call Trump a racist.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:47:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:48:48am
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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:48:50am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

GOP is now the battered housewife, complaining but still making excuses for her abusive spouse.

“Yeah, he beats the shit out of me and demeans me at every opportunity, but I LOVE HIM!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:49:23am

I’ll repeat this comment I left in the previous thread:
We should take a moment to ponder how extraordinarily awful it is that the nation’s highest ranking Republican, two heartbeats away from the Presidency, doesn’t think that making racist statements is a disqualification for the Presidency. The GOP is now a white power party.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:49:23am

re: #4 darthstar

I vote every November. I have yet to have an election where I voted with the winner of the state contest. The closest I’ve come is voting for the Democratic presidential candidate and having them win in spite of Texas.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:49:25am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Katrina Pierson on MSNBC: “There are two groups in this country obsessed with race, and it’s the far left and the media” Lashes out at BLM.
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) June 7, 2016

This is coming from someone who works for a stubby-fingered troll man whose first criticism of the judge was his racial/heritage background. Wow.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:49:45am

Sorry…I just can’t get excited about the whole Trump is a racist thing…I already dislike him for so many smaller things.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:49:51am

re: #6 Targetpractice

“Yeah, he beats the shit out of me and demeans me at every opportunity, but I LOVE HIM!”

and he is the best partner I can ever expect to find!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:50:45am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s spokespeople are even more insufferable than he is.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:51:02am

I’m really trying to remember a presidential candidate on either side of the aisle who ever had their own party this outraged before the fucking convention.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:51:12am

re: #4 darthstar

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Keith Judd is running again? And managed to get on the ballot in California?

Gez.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:51:17am

re: #8 Belafon

I vote every November. I have yet to have an election where I voted with the winner of the state contest. The closest I’ve come is voting for the Democratic presidential candidate and having them win in spite of Texas.

Back when I voted for Kucinich I got a yard sign and stuck it in my brother’s front yard while he was away - he lives in a little Republican pocket on the peninsula - there were lots of Bush signs at the time in his neighborhood.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:52:18am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:52:23am

re: #10 darthstar

Sorry…I just can’t get excited about the whole Trump is a racist thing…I already dislike him for so many smaller things.

In this country, racism is a really big thing. It has always been the single biggest problem the nation faces. And we see that here in 2016, 240 years after the nation’s founding, one of our two major parties is actually moving towards being more openly racist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:52:37am

re: #10 darthstar

Sorry…I just can’t get excited about the whole Trump is a racist thing…I already dislike him for so many smaller things.

For DT, it serves as a fine distraction from the fact that he is totally unqualified for the job. Any mention of his racism or sexism will just spin off into a flurry of counter-charges.

But it keeps people from talking about how he has no record of public service and obviously no clue about how government is supposed to function.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:53:08am

re: #4 darthstar

Roque De La Fuente is bitterly disappointed in you.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:54:29am
“…To defend real estate mogul Donald Trump’s claim that a federal judge is biased against him because of his “Mexican heritage,” his campaign spokeswoman argued on Monday that it also would be acceptable to accuse a female judge of bias on the basis of gender.”
huffingtonpost.com

Ryan’s out of touch; the Trump campaign is still selling his racism and his misogyny as desirable features.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:55:23am

re: #4 darthstar

I skipped the presidential ballot this morning. That felt surprisingly good.

(I would have requested a Libertarian ballot, but they’ve already had their convention, so it seemed rather pointless)

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:56:45am

re: #10 darthstar

Sorry…I just can’t get excited about the whole Trump is a racist thing…I already dislike him for so many smaller things.

Every reason. Is there anything at all likable about him? Anything? Anything? Bueller? Bueller?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:56:45am

re: #17 Big Beautiful Door

In this country, racism is a really big thing. It has always been the single biggest problem the nation faces. And we see that here in 2016, 240 years after the nation’s founding, one of our two major parties is actually moving towards being more openly racist.

I think this is actually a critical point: it is the only thing that can’t be MBF’d in this cycle.

Dead-end Sanders supporters can both-sides themselves into thinking that Clinton and Trump have basically pretty similar hawkishness, or contort their facts into believing they’re equally beholden to Wall Street (WALL STREEEEEEEEET!!!), or whatever else. Even if none of those things are actually true. But you cannot live in a fact-based universe and think Hillary Clinton is within nine thousand lightyears of Donald Trump’s noxious, evil, backward, caveman views on race.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2016 • 11:59:40am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Benjy Sarlin ✔ @BenjySarlin
Katrina Pierson on MSNBC: “There are two groups in this country obsessed with race, and it’s the far left and the media” Lashes out at BLM.
2:31 PM - 7 Jun 2016
1 1 Retweet 5 5 likes

I wonder what Katrina’s price is?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:00:20pm

re: #22 MsJ

Every reason. Is there anything at all likable about him? Anything? Anything? Bueller? Bueller?

I like that he wears red ties, because god damnit he’s a Republican and that’s what he tries to represent.

The hurr durr wear purple because both sides thing is deeply and profoundly silly, and I would like it to go away.

There’s, uh, there’s my one thing. I did my best.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:02:13pm

re: #23 Testy Toad T

I think this is actually a critical point: it is the only thing that can’t be MBF’d in this cycle.

Dead-end Sanders supporters can both-sides themselves into thinking that Clinton and Trump have basically pretty similar hawkishness, or contort their facts into believing they’re equally beholden to Wall Street (WALL STREEEEEEEEET!!!), or whatever else. Even if none of those things are actually true. But you cannot live in a fact-based universe and think Hillary Clinton is within nine thousand lightyears of Donald Trump’s noxious, evil, backward, caveman views on race.

HILLARY SUPPORTED THE CRIME ACT AND WELFARE REFORM IN THE NINETIES!!11!!1!

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:02:14pm

Damn clock stopped again…

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Jenner7  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:03:04pm

Donald’s quiet today….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:03:23pm

“He’s not a terrorist. He just believes in doing terroristy things!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:03:36pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

Damn clock stopped again…

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Wonder what rightwing blogger Kristol is trying to talk into running for president now?

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:03:48pm

re: #10 darthstar

Sorry…I just can’t get excited about the whole Trump is a racist thing…I already dislike him for so many smaller things.

It is more about the whole Republican party excuse making for the guy than it is about Trump. Trump is already a known asshole.

And this is just exposing the assholes in the GOP who still endorse him.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:04:56pm

re: #15 darthstar

Back when I voted for Kucinich I got a yard sign and stuck it in my brother’s front yard while he was away - he lives in a little Republican pocket on the peninsula - there were lots of Bush signs at the time in his neighborhood.

Kucinich??? You are that guy.

(runs and hides)

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:04:56pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

Damn clock stopped again…

And at least 27% of the Republican party is OK with both.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:05:12pm

re: #28 Jenner7

Donald’s quiet today….

16 hrs.

Really I think Hillary got under his skin. Since San Diego he’s been floundering.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:05:13pm

re: #29 GlutenFreeJesus

“He’s not a terrorist. He just believes in doing terroristy things!”

Why won’t the GOP simply use the magical pixie-dust phrase Radical Republican Racism?

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dangerman  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:05:52pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

Damn clock stopped again…

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party first

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:07:13pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

16 hrs.

Really I think Hillary got under his skin. Since San Diego he’s been floundering.

He faces the fundamental problem that he’s maxed out the hate. He cannot wring any more hate out of the English language. There obviously isn’t any “there” there, so… what to do? He’s basically limited to reacting to current events at this point.

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:07:21pm

re: #21 KGxvi

I skipped the presidential ballot this morning. That felt surprisingly good.

(I would have requested a Libertarian ballot, but they’ve already had their convention, so it seemed rather pointless)

Please tell me you voted for Kamala Harris.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:08:06pm

re: #4 darthstar

Primaries are where you vote for who you want.

The Older Boy and The Younger Boy are joining you. Mrs. FBW and I will be cancelling out their votes.
/////

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:09:48pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

16 hrs.

Really I think Hillary got under his skin. Since San Diego he’s been floundering.

It’s not just the broadside Hillary smashed him with — it’s that nobody, literally not one single elected official, Republican pundit, NOBODY, was willing to go on the record disputing one single word of it.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:09:51pm

I guess Trump could test his theory and actually shoot a guy on Fifth Ave. That would be a new direction to take it.

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:11:38pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I guess Trump could test his theory and actually shoot a guy on Fifth Ave. That would be a new direction to take it.

At which point Chuckles, SMOTI, Alex Jones, and who knows how many others… would quickly go on the record that the guy deserved to be shot. Because reasons.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:12:13pm

re: #38 sagehen

Please tell me you voted for Kamala Harris.

Yes, I did. None of the Republicans were credible and I had a few run ins with Sanchez years back and was never impressed.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:12:47pm

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and he is the best partner I can ever expect to find!!!

Now I have the pearl Jam in my head.

Pearl jam - better man

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:12:59pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I guess Trump could test his theory and actually shoot a guy on Fifth Ave. That would be a new direction to take it.

Same direction, new distance.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:14:24pm
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:14:35pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

16 hrs.

Really I think Hillary got under his skin. Since San Diego he’s been floundering.

And the real storm is yet to arrive.

I’m living to see the Clintons, the Obamas, Biden, Warren and an entire other squad of Democrats, out there on the stump hitting him incessantly.

He won’t know who to address a nasty tweet to first.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:14:48pm

re: #28 Jenner7

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:15:20pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I guess Trump could test his theory and actually shoot a guy on Fifth Ave. That would be a new direction to take it.

and then claim that the judge was biased against him because he had convicted other murder suspects…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:15:22pm

re: #37 Testy Toad T

He faces the fundamental problem that he’s maxed out the hate. He cannot wring any more hate out of the English language. There obviously isn’t any “there” there, so… what to do? He’s basically limited to reacting to current events at this point.

Oh he can wring more hate out, trust me, but it will lead to an ugliness I don’t think even he wants to see.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:16:23pm

re: #50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh he can wring more hate out, trust me, but it will lead to an ugliness I don’t think even he wants to see.

You think Trump has a bottom to his barrel of hate? I’m not sure.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:16:33pm

re: #50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh he can wring more hate out, trust me, but it will lead to an ugliness I don’t think even he wants to see.

If he thinks it will get him the Presidency he won’t hesitate for a moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:17:18pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

You think Trump has a bottom to his barrel of hate? I’m not sure.

He is just getting warmed up for the Big Game

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:17:34pm

re: #35 Testy Toad T

Why won’t the GOP simply use the magical pixie-dust phrase Radical Republican Racism?

I think we should find a better term than that, as the Radical Republicans of the Reconstruction era were fighting for suffrage and civil rights for Blacks almost 100 years before LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:17:42pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:17:50pm

Tim Steller is in Arizona.

Ain’t gettin’ no Manatee.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:19:07pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

Damn clock stopped again…

Bill Kristol: “Official position of the leadership of the Republican Party: Trump is an inexcusable bigot, and Trump must be our next president.”

The call is coming from inside the house.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:19:16pm

Hmmmm… that’s a hot take.

Here’s my own. The GOP has their bubble of fact-free Faux News and they don’t stray from it. It’s the blanket of bigotry that they wrap themselves in on a nightly basis to keep them ignorant and fact-free.

The rest of the media didn’t do a great job going after Trump, especially since they gave him and his empty podium thousands of hours and billions of dollars of free airtime. That’s inexcusable.

Without the free media coverage, Trump would have been forced to actually work to get coverage and media spots. He would have been required to come on to media programs instead of literally phoning it in.

He got more free media coverage than everyone else in the race combined. And that includes Clinton and Sanders.

The media is not absolved in any of this. Not by a long shot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:19:56pm

re: #54 No Depression

I think we should find a better term than that, as the Radical Republicans of the Reconstruction era were fighting for suffrage and civil rights for Blacks almost 100 years before LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

How about reactionary republican racism?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:21:02pm

re: #47 makeitstop

And the real storm is yet to arrive.

I’m living to see the Clintons, the Obamas, Biden, Warren and an entire other squad of Democrats, out there on the stump hitting him incessantly.

He won’t know who to address a nasty tweet to first.

Little Rubio.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:22:17pm
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Cheechako  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:22:56pm

I’m wondering if there are any Federal Grand Juries looking into the relationship between Trump and the AG’s from Florida and Texas. Remember, in a bribery case such as this appears to be, both the giver and receiver can be prosecuted.

Might be the last ray of hope for the establishment GOP to dump Trump.

Keep in mind it would take hugh balls for the Feds to jump into this fever swamp at this stage of the game.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:23:02pm

re: #58 lawhawk

The media made the serious error of confusing nonpartisanship with being afraid to offend, combined with a healthy helping of weasel words. 538’s been hammering pretty hard on this point.

In the parlance of the moment, Trump didn’t “make comments some see as racially tinged”. He made racist comments. This is reality. Words mean things, and you should use the words (all the best words!) to directly, specifically, succinctly describe the facts.

Steps like CNN’s (he did) chyron are very badly needed progress.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:24:09pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump will ask all of his African-American delegates to join him on stage. “See my African-Americans!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:26:03pm

re: #63 Testy Toad T

The media made the serious error of confusing nonpartisanship with being afraid to offend, combined with a healthy helping of weasel words. 538’s been hammering pretty hard on this point.

In the parlance of the moment, Trump didn’t “make comments some see as racially tinged”. He made racist comments. This is reality. Words mean things, and you should use the words (all the best words!) to directly, specifically, succinctly describe the facts.

Steps like CNN’s (he did) chyron are very badly needed progress.

Apropo of nothing in particular, before CNN ran that chyron, I don’t believe I ever saw the word “chyron.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:26:14pm

re: #50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh he can wring more hate out, trust me, but it will lead to an ugliness I don’t think even he wants to see.

He’s on the very verge of using the C-word to describe Hillary.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:27:35pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s on the very verge of using the C-word to describe Hillary.

Chyron?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:28:00pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s on the very verge of using the C-word to describe Hillary.

I don’t think anything on this planet could make her happier.

Please proceed.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:28:13pm

re: #65 Big Beautiful Door

Apropo of nothing in particular, before CNN ran that chyron, I don’t believe I ever saw the word “chyron.”

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:28:38pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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WTF is wrong with people.

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Tigger2  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:30:14pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

WTF is wrong with people.

Some are probably rightwingers trying to make Dem’s look bad.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:30:59pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

Chyron?

Cylon. But from the newer show, not the original.

Also, while I have been expecting something along the lines of “listen here, missy” during one of the debates (which, I’m pretty sure would get even my staunchly Republican mom to rethink her vote), I’m now slightly more convinced that Trump will actually drop a C-bomb during this election. And I really can’t wait to see the reaction to it.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:31:03pm

getting dark here in a hurry (MD), storm a coming.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:31:18pm

Must watch!! It’s via Storycorps.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:31:24pm

re: #71 Tigger2

When I use the word “probably”, I try to make sure I have at least more than zero point zero evidence.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:31:50pm

re: #69 MsJ

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

No, Ky-Ron is the villain in the next Superman movie.

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Jack Burton  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:32:15pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

WTF is wrong with people.

They are feeling a Berning sensation.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:32:25pm

re: #69 MsJ

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

That’s wrong?

What’s right?

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:32:34pm

Maybe we can get Republicans to bust out their Louisiana 1991 governor’s race bumper stickers — “Vote for the Crook. It’s important.”

Edwards had already been acquitted in two racketeering trials before the election, he was finally convicted in 2000, but there was a time when national Republicans felt it really mattered to reject the Klansman. Even if it meant supporting a Democrat who was actually, demonstrably, criminal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:33:14pm

re: #72 KGxvi

Cylon. But from the newer show, not the original.

Also, while I have been expecting something along the lines of “listen here, missy” during one of the debates (which, I’m pretty sure would get even my staunchly Republican mom to rethink her vote), I’m now slightly more convinced that Trump will actually drop a C-bomb during this election. And I really can’t wait to see the reaction to it.

I think he’s more likely to use the B-word, but honestly at this point the C-word wouldn’t surprise me.

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451_Montag  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:33:17pm
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:33:27pm

re: #69 MsJ

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

I’ve always pronounced it like that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:33:42pm
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sizzzzlerz  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:34:52pm

re: #47 makeitstop

And the real storm is yet to arrive.

I’m living to see the Clintons, the Obamas, Biden, Warren and an entire other squad of Democrats, out there on the stump hitting him incessantly.

He won’t know who to address a nasty tweet to first.

Oh, that is so true. I’m tingling with the anticipation of Big Dog Bill laying into Trump. There won’t be any pieces left of him larger than a few molecules.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:35:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:35:32pm

re: #69 MsJ

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

That’s how it’s supposed to be pronounced.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:35:42pm

re: #82 makeitstop

I’ve always pronounced it like that.

Me too. She’s outvoted!

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:35:51pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:36:58pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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One GOP officeholder with the balls to renounce Trump. One.

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451_Montag  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:37:02pm

re: #84 sizzzzlerz

Oh, that is so true. I’m tingling with the anticipation of Big Dog Bill laying into Trump. There won’t be any pieces left of him larger than a few molecules.

I see them all striding out on stage, through heavy dry ice, with O Fortuna by Carl Orff playing loud

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:37:33pm

re: #89 Big Beautiful Door

One GOP officeholder with the balls to renounce Trump. One.

Two! Sasse is remaining sassy.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:38:02pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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Right, Lindsey. The first woman ever would be the ‘third term’ of anything. Idiot.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:38:56pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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Well, at least he’s showing some backbone. It remains to be seen if it’ll last though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:39:11pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

Right, Lindsey. The first woman ever would be the ‘third term’ of anything. Idiot.

Yeah he doesn’t help. I am glad to see him condemning Trump but at the same time Christ allmighty dude.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:39:28pm

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But it keeps people from talking about how he has no record of public service and obviously no clue about how government is supposed to function.

This.

Why this isn’t enough to disqualify him from office is beyond me. All anyone wants to talk about is the bigotry and the racism. Yes, it’s ugly, and yes, I can see the importance of talking about it. I’m about to start a series of tweets I’m calling “Donald Trump is no more racist than…” and adding the name of his supporters - McConnell, McCain, Ryan, etc. Because at the end of the day, if they support him, they support his opinions.

McCain goes first.

More to follow…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:39:52pm

re: #93 CuriousLurker

Well, at least he’s showing some backbone. It remains to be seen if it’ll last though.

That’s very true CL. i don’t trust Graham. I appreciate his words but I don’t trust him. Sasse has been consistent to his credit though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:40:58pm

re: #95 darthstar

This.

Why this isn’t enough to disqualify him from office is beyond me. All anyone wants to talk about is the bigotry and the racism. Yes, it’s ugly, and yes, I can see the importance of talking about it. I’m about to start a series of tweets I’m calling “Donald Trump is no more racist than…” and adding the name of his supporters - McConnell, McCain, Ryan, etc. Because at the end of the day, if they support him, they support his opinions.

McCain goes first.

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More to follow…

But they have to endorse him lest mean things be said about them.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:41:24pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

That’s wrong?

What’s right?

Chy-Ron I believe.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:41:24pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

I believe in giving credit where credit is due…

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CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:42:58pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

Right, Lindsey. The first woman ever would be the ‘third term’ of anything. Idiot.

Yeah, I wasn’t crazy about that part, especially since there has been no such thing as a “failed” Obama presidency. He’s gotten quite a LOT done despite GOP obstructionism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:43:16pm

re: #98 MsJ

Chy-Ron I believe.

It’s a hard C, despite what a YouTube pronunciation otherwise says.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:44:08pm

re: #95 darthstar

All the places where you say ‘is no more racist than’, could be just as accurately filled in by ‘is no less racist than’.

To the Republicans, it’s a feature, not a bug.

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DesertDenizen  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:44:14pm

re: #47 makeitstop

I’m willing to go with just Biden. Joe alone has more than enough steam to take him, plus the perfect attitude and delivery. The debate with Paul Ryan proved that.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:44:27pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I wasn’t crazy about that part, especially since there has been no such thing as a “failed” Obama presidency. He’s gotten quite a LOT done despite GOP obstructionism.

He failed to resign.

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:44:38pm

re: #79 sagehen

Maybe we can get Republicans to bust out their Louisiana 1991 governor’s race bumper stickers — “Vote for the Crook. It’s important.”

Edwards had already been acquitted in two racketeering trials before the election, he was finally convicted in 2000, but there was a time when national Republicans felt it really mattered to reject the Klansman. Even if it meant supporting a Democrat who was actually, demonstrably, criminal.

Well, sorta. Keep in mind that Duke won the white vote heavily in that election, and probably won the white Republican vote by an even wider margin. It was mainly Dems sporting that great bumper sticker. But maybe it did influence a few votes here and there.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:45:14pm

Which totally makes sense given that he’s running against Tammy Duckworth. He’s feeling the Trump effect.

Good.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:45:16pm

re: #104 Belafon

He failed to resign.

or give the GOP everything they wanted. The selfish bastard.

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:45:18pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a hard C, despite what a YouTube pronunciation otherwise says.

Back in the prehistoric days of my broadcast journalism courses, they had the charming name of ‘character generator.’ And that was pretty much all they did.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:45:59pm

re: #106 lawhawk

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Which totally makes sense given that he’s running against Tammy Duckworth. He’s feeling the Trump effect.

Good.

Good.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:46:24pm

re: #98 MsJ

Chy-Ron I believe.

Chai-Ron?

Shy-Ron?

I’ll stick with Ky-Ron. I don’t have a TV, so I never need to say it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:46:37pm

re: #108 makeitstop

Back in the prehistoric days of my broadcast journalism courses, they had the charming name of ‘character generator.’ And that was pretty much all they did.

exactly

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:47:07pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a hard C, despite what a YouTube pronunciation otherwise says.

My husband, the Canadian. He always says gist (g not j) and Pro-cess, not prah-cess. Oh, and pass-ta not pah-sta. (For which I can cut him some slack since Mazda’s own commercials call the brand Maaaz-da not Mahz-da).

He’s messing with my American mind, man! :-)

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:48:37pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Good.

Kirk is still a shitheal, Trump or no Trump. He’s pivoting solely and only because of Duckworth.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:49:17pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

Chai-Ron?

Honestly, now I don’t know what the true pronunciation is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:49:32pm

re: #112 MsJ

My husband, the Canadian. He always says gist (g not j) and Pro-cess, not prah-cess. Oh, and pass-ta not pah-sta. (For which I can cut him some slack since Mazda’s own commercials call the brand Maaaz-da not Mahz-da).

He’s messing with my American mind, man! :-)

Canadians talk so weird, eh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:49:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:50:18pm

re: #113 MsJ

Kirk is still a shitheal, Trump or no Trump. He’s pivoting solely and only because of Duckworth.

No doubt about that. I’m rooting for Tammy.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:50:28pm

re: #114 MsJ

Honestly, now I don’t know what the true pronunciation is.

chy*ron

ˈkīrän/

noun: chyron; plural noun: chyrons

an electronically generated caption superimposed on a television or movie screen.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:50:41pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

Chyron?

If he’s polite he’ll use the euphemism “lower third.”

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Tigger2  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:50:56pm

re: #106 lawhawk

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Which totally makes sense given that he’s running against Tammy Duckworth. He’s feeling the Trump effect.

Good.

What’s funny is that will most likely lose him some votes over that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:51:11pm

re: #114 MsJ

Honestly, now I don’t know what the true pronunciation is.

Definition of chyron in English:
chyron
Pronunciation: /ˈkīrän/

oxforddictionaries.com

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:51:54pm

Some interesting graphics packages from Chyron:
chyronhego.com

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:52:04pm

re: #69 MsJ

I always say it wrong. I always say Ky-Ron.

So do I, and so does everyone I work with. (I work in TV post-production.)

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:53:00pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

No doubt about that. I’m rooting for Tammy.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:53:01pm
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:53:17pm

re: #103 DesertDenizen

I’m willing to go with just Biden. Joe alone has more than enough steam to take him, plus the perfect attitude and delivery. The debate with Paul Ryan proved that.

Nah, I’m greedy. I want them all kicking his ass. Non-stop.

Think of the red-ass Obama gave him at the corespondents’ dinner. Think of how Bill Clinton could put Trump’s problems into plain talk that even his moron followers might be able to understand. Think of the hit Hillary put on him just last week. Think of Biden speaking plain truths as only he can.

Now, imagine Trump trying to deflect attack from all of them. There is just no way on earth that Trump and all of his spokesdouches put together could withstand a sustained tag-teaming like that.

I guarantee he’d start cancelling campaign appearances, press conferences, all of it. He’d probably even try to duck out of debates, which would open p yet another line of attack.

Trump showed that just one woman challenging him was nearly too much to handle. The only way to take him down and make sure he never comes back is to break him, in public. I want that. So bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:54:46pm

Iowa state Senator David Johnson has become the first elected Republican to leave the party over Donald Trump’s racism.

The Guardian reported:
Johnson announced that he was changing his registration to No Party after Trump leveled accusations of bias at Judge Gonzalo Curiel, an American judge of Mexican heritage who allowed the release of some unflattering documents from a case against Trump University.

“I haven’t supported Mr. Trump at any point along the way but what I am calling his racist remarks and judicial jihad is the last straw,” Johnson told the Guardian.

Johnson compared Trump’s run for the Republican nomination to the rise of Hitler and said Trump won “by reducing his campaign to reality tv and large crowds and divisive language and all the trappings of a good show for those who like that kind of approach and that’s what happened in the 1930s in Germany.”

He added: “I think that’s all I need to say, but certainly the fascists took control of Germany under the same types of strategies.”

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:54:53pm

You know, I don’t think “living” was what annoyed other Republicans about Ted Cruz.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:56:17pm

…..

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:56:34pm

re: #128 jaunte

You know, I don’t think “living” was what annoyed other Republicans about Ted Cruz.

Cruz was no prize, believe me.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:58:16pm
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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:58:26pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is he going to caucus with Republicans in the state Senate? Or will he now caucus with the Democrats?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:58:38pm
134
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:58:44pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

Um Mitch? That ship left the dock a long time ago…

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 12:59:43pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Iowa state Senator David Johnson has become the first elected Republican to leave the party over Donald Trump’s racism.]

Next up: Bold Republicans who switch parties…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:00:20pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:01:13pm

re: #126 makeitstop

I updinged that after your first sentence, and then, as I kept reading, I became sad that I had no more dings to give.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:02:01pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Not really. Mark Kirk’s ‘principles’ in this case are a desire to win a tough reelection race.

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b.d.  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:02:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:02:54pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

Not really. Mark Kirk’s ‘principles’ in this case are a desire to win a tough reelection race.

That’s very true.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:03:25pm

hahaha trump statement

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:03:48pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

Not really. Mark Kirk’s ‘principles’ in this case are a desire to win a tough reelection race.

143
blueraven  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:03:54pm

CNN:
Trump issues lengthy statement saying his comments about the judge have been “misconstrued”.

144
CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:04:17pm

re: #104 Belafon

He failed to resign.

LOL, oh yeah. Silly me.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:04:37pm

re: #143 blueraven

CNN:
Trump issues lengthy statement saying his comments about the judge have been “misconstrued”.

long as fuck. talks more about the great university

146
Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:05:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:05:21pm
148
Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:05:34pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

Not really. Mark Kirk’s ‘principles’ in this case are a desire to win a tough reelection race.

I’m not sure, but only because I don’t think this helps his chances. I think you’re going to lose a lot more Republican voters by abandoning Trump than you will pick up Democrats.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:05:42pm
150
blueraven  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:06:03pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

long as fuck. talks more about the great university

Says he will not comment on this matter any more.

I’m sure he would love it to go the hell away.

It will not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:06:30pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

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ON VIDEO

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Jenner7  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:06:32pm
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No Depression  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:07:37pm

Just came across the term broletariat. Love it!

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Testy Toad T  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:07:52pm

re: #152 Jenner7

How does a guy who ostensibly works in journalism not understand the concept of preparing a story to cover the inevitable?

I will never, ever be able to tell if King in particular is this fucking dumb, or this fucking craven to mislead his followers.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:07:53pm
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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:08:09pm

re: #152 Jenner7

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Bless his heart.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:08:45pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

Next up: Bold Republicans who switch parties…

I’ll take tearing the Republican party apart. It will be the only thing that saves the part that D_F claims to be part of.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:09:17pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

ON VIDEO

and of course a written statement. He couldn’t string those words together on the fly.

Took him 17 hours.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:09:32pm

re: #150 blueraven

Says he will not comment on this matter any more.

I’m sure he would love it to go the hell away.

It will not.

Considering his attorneys, when approached by the media outside the courthouse and asked about Trump’s comments, said that Judge Curiel was doing his job and that they weren’t seeking his recusal, I’m guessing his attorneys told him to shut the fuck up or they’d seek to withdraw and that he’d not be able to find another firm to take his case.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:10:09pm

re: #120 Tigger2

What’s funny is that will most likely lose him some votes over that.

They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They brought it all on themselves, so I’m not feeling any sympathy for any of them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:10:12pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

Not really. Mark Kirk’s ‘principles’ in this case are a desire to win a tough reelection race.

More politics as usual. I’m sure in this case though, it’ll be a principled stand to take instead of just doing whatever is needed to have a shot at staying in power (like McCain’s endorsement, etc.).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:10:55pm

re: #159 KGxvi

Considering his attorneys, when approached by the media outside the courthouse and asked about Trump’s comments, said that Judge Curiel was doing his job and that they weren’t seeking his recusal, I’m guessing his attorneys told him to shut the fuck up or they’d seek to withdraw and that he’d not be able to find another firm to take his case.

they already realize that this case will cost them more in reputation than in garners in fees

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:13:20pm

Trying to escape.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:13:48pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

Next up: Bold Republicans who switch parties…

I had a crazy idea I posted in the previous thread, that McCain would love but I don’t think would happen. Imagine Hillary selecting Susana Martinez as her VP in a bold bipartisan swipe against Trumpism.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:14:22pm

re: #152 Jenner7

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:14:26pm

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they already realize that this case will cost them more in reputation than in garners in fees

Honestly, I doubt they realized that until Trump started raving this week (and it probably wouldn’t have hurt their reputation if he hadn’t). There are plenty of firms that defend class action lawsuits. And more often than not, they know that the result is going to be a large settlement - their objective is to make it as small as possible. And from what I’ve seen, that’s what they were doing. Then Trump started spewing shit about the judge, and its a whole other ballgame.

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iossarian  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:14:27pm

re: #152 Jenner7

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Just like those arrogant sports teams that make winning t-shirts BEFORE THE GAME IS EVEN PLAYED!!!

The horror.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:14:47pm

re: #163 jaunte

repost that upstairs in the new thread.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:18:19pm

re: #159 KGxvi

Considering his attorneys, when approached by the media outside the courthouse and asked about Trump’s comments, said that Judge Curiel was doing his job and that they weren’t seeking his recusal, I’m guessing his attorneys told him to shut the fuck up or they’d seek to withdraw and that he’d not be able to find another firm to take his case.

Still shocking that Trump would listen to anyone.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:26:09pm

re: #165 MsJ

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2016 • 1:50:21pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

All the places where you say ‘is no more racist than’, could be just as accurately filled in by ‘is no less racist than’.

To the Republicans, it’s a feature, not a bug.

Damnit…Oh well.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 7, 2016 • 3:20:23pm

Comment deleted…..wrong thread.


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