Is It Really "Ridiculous" to Say Trump's "Star of David" Tweet Was Antisemitic?

Is It Really “Ridiculous” to Say Trump’s “Star of David” Tweet Was Antisemitic?

Well, something is certainly ridiculous here

PoliticsJuly 2016 • Views: 61,126

At his website, Donald Trump has now posted a rather garbled and ungrammatical official statement on that antisemitic meme he tweeted on Saturday.

Trump’s position is that it’s “ridiculous” to claim the image he tweeted, showing Hillary Clinton superimposed on a pile of money with a red Star of David, is antisemitic.

These false attacks by Hillary Clinton trying to link the Star of David with a basic star, often used by sheriffs who deal with criminals and criminal behavior, showing an inscription that says “Crooked Hillary is the most corrupt candidate ever” with anti-Semitism is ridiculous. Clinton, through her surrogates, is just trying to divert attention from the dishonest behavior of herself and her husband.

Here, once again, is the image in question, as it was originally posted by its creator, @FishBoneHead1 — whose Twitter account is no longer active, oddly enough.

So let’s examine Trump’s claim that this image just showed an innocent star shape to evoke a “sheriff’s star,” and wasn’t intended to be antisemitic. We’ll do that by looking at a couple of the other things that appeared in @FishBoneHead1’s Twitter feed before he/she deleted it.

For example, this image of journalist Ruth Marcus (who is Jewish), featuring a grotesquely exaggerated nose.

Or another example, this image of Barack Obama edited to look like a Hasidic Jew (via @pwnallthethings).

Here’s some more evidence to take into consideration: a comment posted by “fishbonehead” for a Politico article a couple of years ago, ranting about “Wall Street and Hollywood Jews:”

I’ll let you decide if it’s really “ridiculous” to say the image Trump tweeted was intentionally antisemitic.

Trump Now Openly Pandering to Antisemites, Tweets Star of David in Attack on Clinton Confirmed: Trump’s Antisemitic Attack on Hillary Clinton Originated With White Supremacists Trump Finally Responds to Antisemitic Meme Outrage: “Dishonest Media”

UPDATE at 7/4/16 5:15:01 pm by Charles Johnson

Trump’s social media director Dan Scavino is now taking responsibility for choosing the image Trump tweeted, and he admits he got it from the Twitter feed of @FishBoneHead1.

Who, by the way, is clearly a full-on antisemite.

.@DanScavino, Trump’s director of social media, releases this statement saying that he lifted image from Twitter: pic.twitter.com/QHr90a5N3J

— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 5, 2016

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Skip Intro Jul 4, 2016 • 4:37:55pm

On this Independence Day, remember that our majestic national symbol the bald eagle, also hates @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/K8bYZE5oT4

— Pinky SlivotitzTM (@ACreativeMuggle) July 4, 2016

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 4, 2016 • 4:39:31pm

Innocent stars usually have only 5 points.

Skip Intro Jul 4, 2016 • 4:40:16pm

Why will @realDonaldTrump never, ever apologize and admit wrongdoing? Here’s why: https://t.co/OlBrQ9yFzA

— Katie Packer (@katiepack) July 4, 2016

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 4:41:43pm

huffingtonpost.com

GOP leaders today ignoring the anti-Semitic tweet while tweeting about things like taxes on Independence Day.

Senator Mitch McConnell and GOP chair Reince Priebus tweeted about Elie Weisel, then pivoted to claim Hillary Clinton is the first presidential candidate to be criminally investigated by the FBI (gotta keep copulating with that chicken).

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 4:44:25pm

I think the conclusion is clear.

Also: the guy was a bigot, but making pictures was his shtick, he knew how to use photoshop (or whatever editor he used) and wasn’t some inexperienced intern. He knew what he was doing with that star.

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 4:46:03pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Innocent stars usually have only 5 points.

Satanic Communist!

freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 4:48:03pm

Donald Trump breaks a record, and it’s not a good one

Gallup reports that Trump is more disliked than any general election candidate in the last 60 years. Even Barry Goldwater at his lowest point was not viewed as negatively as Trump is now. The polling organization’s latest survey looked not just at whether people view a candidate favorably or unfavorably, but to what extent.

freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 4:50:51pm

It’s all about the ratings:

Donald Trump ‘would love to’ talk about birtherism. Here’s why he doesn’t

The Times story offered another possible reason Trump stopped talking about the issue: “Executives at NBC,” which aired Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice,” “privately called on him to tone down his remarks, fearing he would hurt ratings at a time when more than a million African-Americans tuned in every Thursday night.” The newspaper cited “a former executive with knowledge of the discussions.”

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 4, 2016 • 4:52:20pm

Shiplord Kirel Jul 4, 2016 • 4:53:23pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

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All true, but it’s a lot easier and faster with a knife.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 4, 2016 • 4:54:29pm

re: #7 freetoken

That gives me hope for this country.

Shiplord Kirel Jul 4, 2016 • 4:57:24pm

re: #7 freetoken

Donald Trump breaks a record, and it’s not a good one

Like Hillary Rodham, I supported Goldwater in ‘64. Also like her, I was a teenager at the time.
I remember the campaign used the slogan, “In your heart, you know he’s right,” to which Democrats responded, “In your guts, you know he’s nuts.”

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 4, 2016 • 4:57:29pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Only if the people that hate him get out to vote.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 4:57:44pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

That gives me hope for this country.

His polls are sinking now, but when it becomes obvious he’s losing big, he’s going to go apeshit. He’s going to say something on camera that can’t be spun or taken back. I just want it to be after the convention.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 4:58:29pm

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

Only if the people that hate him ~~get out~~ are allowed to vote.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 5:00:09pm

#1 Reason Donald Trump should not be allowed within 1000 miles of the White House #tcot #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/8t7JFCeKpg @bcscoachbrown

— (((Vicious Bubbie))) (@viciousbabushka) July 4, 2016

Shiplord Kirel Jul 4, 2016 • 5:01:25pm

I know exactly one Hispanic person who supports Trump, a small time politician in Lubbock. He is an extremely devout Catholic and places abortion above all other issues, hence Hillary is off his board.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:04:19pm

What’s actually ridiculous how the American right wants to deny that Antisemitism has ever been a huge part of right wing politics.

BeachDem Jul 4, 2016 • 5:04:21pm

Heh (Ana Marie’s whole timeline is hilarious)

It’s a beautiful ceremony. https://t.co/NPdT2xkWTg

— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) July 4, 2016

@anamariecox I remember being deputized when I was 13 like it was yesterday
— BonoEnoOno (@schillfactor) July 4, 2016

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:04:30pm

Hey Charles, this could be more evidence.

disqus.com

fishbonehead • 2 years ago
Shhhhhh…..your going to blow THE NARRATIVE! You know libs hate facts. The real shame is the power Wall Street and Hollywood Jews who support and worship the politicians who don’t support Israel!

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:05:32pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Heh (Ana Marie’s whole timeline is hilarious)

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Some of my best friends are sheriffs.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:06:57pm

re: #20 Nyet

Hey Charles, this could be more evidence.

disqus.com

That proves what I’ve always thought about conservatives. They think Israel is the only measure that can be viewed as supporting Jews or not. As if the right wing’s support of Israel is actually based in something that actually makes sense and isn’t rooted in crazy doomsday crap.

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:07:15pm

re: #20 Nyet

This gives off the “Love Israel, hate the leftist Jews” vibe that is so common among certain segments.

Shiplord Kirel Jul 4, 2016 • 5:08:26pm

More Goldwater lore:

In about 1967, a lady wrote to advice columnist Ann Landers to complain, “My husband burns the hairs out of his nose with a lit match, and he thinks I’m crazy because I voted for Goldwater!”

(Source: Book of Lists)

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:08:40pm

re: #23 Nyet

This gives off the “Love Israel, hate the leftist Jews” vibe that is so common among certain segments.

Yes, I’ve noticed that too. It’s similar to Christian Identity IMO.

freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 5:09:23pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

That gives me hope for this country.

Well, then, this one probably won’t:

24-Year-Old Latina Campaigns for Donald Trump on South Texas Border: ‘He’s Right About Everything He Says’

Cepeda spends most of her time at the University of Texas-Rio Grande Valley as a graduate student of history, but lately she’s been spending her days posting Trump signs all over the Rio Grande Valley (even though, she said, they usually get trashed by protesters) and spreading his campaign message to anyone who will listen.

I’m perplexed by the logo on her t-shirt:

Image: miriam-cepeda-trump-girl.jpg

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:09:43pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Some of my best friends are sheriffs.

When I first moved here, I had to have my car inspected by the county sheriff (the VIN, to assure it was not stolen from another state).

He took one look at my long hair and said “I’m going to be keeping my eye on you.”

Every time I’ve seen him since then it’s the same: “I’m still keeping my eye on you” though it has turned into a joke between us.

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:11:01pm

re: #26 freetoken

I’m perplexed by the logo on her t-shirt:

Image: miriam-cepeda-trump-girl.jpg

NRA logo in pink digital camo.

(((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗))) Jul 4, 2016 • 5:11:59pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

What’s actually ridiculous how the American right wants to deny that Antisemitism has ever been a huge part of right wing politics.

See, that’d call into question their suicide-pact worship of Israel, and by extension their devotion to making the End Times happen so Jaysus can come back and wipe out everyone but them (including them damned Jooz ‘cuz they don’t accept Jaysus).

Jenner7 Jul 4, 2016 • 5:12:14pm

.@DanScavino, Trump’s director of social media, releases this statement saying that he lifted image from Twitter: pic.twitter.com/QHr90a5N3J

— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 5, 2016

The Ghost of a Flea Jul 4, 2016 • 5:12:46pm

re: #23 Nyet

This gives off the “Love Israel, hate the leftist Jews” vibe that is so common among certain segments.

…and the hate of “leftist Jews” coincidentally indulges many of the old antisemitic tropes, which a particular emphasis on “cultural bolshevism/cultural Marxism.”

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:13:11pm

re: #20 Nyet

Hey Charles, this could be more evidence.

disqus.com

Good find! I added this to the post, thanks.

Jenner7 Jul 4, 2016 • 5:13:18pm

re: #30 Jenner7

::coughbullshitcough::

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:15:43pm

re: #33 Jenner7

::coughbullshitcough::

Well, the original post has the producer of the picture at the bottom, the Twitter account of an anti-Semite, so he may very well have lifted it from Twitter.

That’s only a half-explanation though: “I lifted it from the Twitter account of an anti-Semite” would be more accurate.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:15:52pm

re: #31 The Ghost of a Flea

…and the hate of “leftist Jews” coincidentally indulges many of the old antisemitic tropes, which a particular emphasis on “cultural bolshevism/cultural Marxism.”

Exactly but the right wing fundies think because they “support” Israel, I use that term very loosely because Pat Robertson was giddy as hell when Prime Minister Sharon had a stroke that they’re free from charges of Antisemitism. The fact of the matter is as you get at a lot of right wing hatreds of liberalism do have their origins in antisemitism.

b.d. Jul 4, 2016 • 5:16:46pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Some of my best friends are sheriffs.

There are no sheriff members at my country club.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:18:12pm

re: #36 b.d.

There are no sheriff members at my country club.

But the Bible says Sheriff’s are God’s chosen people so we have to support sheriffs until the end times.

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:18:16pm

This “anti-Hillary Twitter user” also happens to be a rabid antisemite. See: https://t.co/yiPwFvdixC @SopanDeb @DanScavino

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 5, 2016

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 5:18:33pm

re: #30 Jenner7

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Not just “lifted”…totally stole it by removing the creator’s link from the graphic.

Skip Intro Jul 4, 2016 • 5:19:00pm

Who knew Hitler was really just raising a posse?
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) July 4, 2016

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:19:36pm

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Jenner7 Jul 4, 2016 • 5:19:39pm

They admit they lifted the image from a twitter user, but say they used a sheriff’s badge from the “shapes” in Microsoft and selected it. That doesn’t make sense.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 5:21:04pm

I should have known better than to answer this dumbshit’s “challenge”
Blocked for bugfuckery now.

reprehensible. In bad taste. deplorable. But not worse than Vince Foster, Benghazi, email scandal, etc. https://t.co/HHIIRsz9fT

— JimBrown (@bcscoachbrown) July 5, 2016

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:21:31pm

re: #42 Jenner7

Selected it - “it” = image.

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:21:48pm

re: #42 Jenner7

They admit they lifted the image from a twitter user, but say they used a sheriff’s badge from the “shapes” in Microsoft and selected it. That doesn’t make sense.

The original claim is was it was created in Microsoft Paint and the design was Paint’s default.

Paint has no default geometric shapes, you have to select them.

But all of that is deflection; the issue is it came from an anti-Semite, as much of Donald Trump’s posts do, and the deafening silence from the GOP’s leaders on that issue.

ObserverArt Jul 4, 2016 • 5:22:47pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not just “lifted”…totally stole it by removing the creator’s link from the graphic.

Well, since they are dancing, they probably just covered over the name/link when they pasted the Fox News Poll on another layer in Photoshop. Which was added after the anti-Semite artist created it. Trump’s people probably wanted to make it more legit by adding the Fox Poll stuff. Or, to have Fox to blame it on.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 4, 2016 • 5:22:52pm

The Brexit fallout has hit home real hard:

FT: If you voted for Brexit and like open-ended UK property funds, we have some bad news:

From Standard Life Investments as it suspends trading in its £2.9bn UK real estate fund (one of the UK’s largest) because of post-referendum redemption requests:

Updating with actual press release:

STANDARD LIFE INVESTMENTS UK REAL ESTATE FUND

Due to exceptional market circumstances, Standard Life Investments has taken the decision to suspend all trading in the Standard Life Investments UK Real Estate Fund (and its associated Feeder Funds) from 12:00 noon on 4July 2016.

The decision was taken following an increase in redemption requests as a result of uncertainty for the UK commercial real estate market following the EU referendum result. The suspension was requested to protect the interests of all investors in the fund and to avoid compromising investment returns from the range, mix and quality of assets within the portfolio.

De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 5:23:04pm

Perhaps the candidate for Prez you chose
Doesn’t have right kind of nose,
Maybe too Italian or too Tel Aviv
For your weak brain pan to receive,
That’s why you should save your vote
For the man with the long black coat?

Man in the Long Black Coat

Btw, that’s Bob picking the gitbox.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:23:05pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

I should have known better than to answer this dumbshit’s “challenge”
Blocked for bugfuckery now.

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Between Vince Foster and a meme I saw earlier distorting the quote of a Vermont Democrat on gunz, I think we’ve re-entered the mid 90’s.

Timothy Watson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:23:23pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Some of my best friends are sheriffs.

Some of my best friends own Sheriffs.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 5:24:32pm

DIM JIM’S HOT TAKE==>

Trump insisted on including Jews and blacks at Palm Beach golf course in 1990s - NetRight Daily https://t.co/t1Ivj36mcW via @LimitGovt

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) July 5, 2016

Skip Intro Jul 4, 2016 • 5:27:04pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Between Vince Foster and a meme I saw earlier distorting the quote of a Vermont Democrat on gunz, I think we’ve re-entered the mid 90’s.

I think we all knew that was going to happen if Hillary was the nominee.

Jenner7 Jul 4, 2016 • 5:30:34pm

re: #44 Nyet

Ah, okay.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 5:31:10pm

Friendly reminder RE Trump’s Star of David thing: 6 mos ago he said Jews wouldn’t back him bc they couldn’t buy him https://t.co/kglv5Rdiq2

— Betsy Woodruff (@woodruffbets) July 4, 2016

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:31:38pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

I think we all knew that was going to happen if Hillary was the nominee.

OF course.

De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 5:33:51pm

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

DIM JIM’S HOT TAKE==>[Embedded content]

He seems nice. In a brain dead kind of way.

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:34:25pm

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Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:34:34pm

re: #20 Nyet

Similar sentiment in one of the deleted tweets:

Yet Shindler’s List Director continues to donate to our Anti-Israel Prez and Co-conspirators!?!?

— FishBoneHead (@FishBoneHead1) August 17, 2015

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:35:24pm

@BuzzFeedAndrew I should point out I’ve been blocked by Dan Scavino since I did this story.

— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) July 5, 2016

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:36:30pm

Responsible gun owner annoyed by ten-year-old using fireworks fires .40 calibre gun at him.

jsonline.com (Goes to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal)

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:37:00pm

re: #60 Anymouse

Responsible gun owner annoyed by ten-year-old using fireworks fires .40 calibre gun at him.

jsonline.com (Goes to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal)

Yeah that’s a reasonable response. //

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 4, 2016 • 5:37:38pm

yes for the obsessed like me there are polls even on the square root of 16 of july, but they yet again show mr the trump winning by -4 to -6 points

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:38:03pm

A PJ Watson subscriber too: youtube.com

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:38:20pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s a reasonable response. //

The man first told police he’d shot fireworks in the child’s direction, but later admitted the sound came from a firearm, police said.

GrFace Jul 4, 2016 • 5:38:21pm

Trump’s social media director Dan Scavino is now taking responsibility for choosing the image Trump tweeted, and he admits he got it from the Twitter feed of @FishBoneHead1.

So @realDonaldTrump is in the hands of a “real” handler, like broadcast news goddess @LeeLinChinSBS… The difference? The comedian ghost writing juvenile tweets on her behalf actually has talent.

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:39:12pm

re: #63 Nyet

Who is PJ Watson (or is it better I do not know)?

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:39:20pm

re: #64 Anymouse

The man first told police he’d shot fireworks in the child’s direction, but later admitted the sound came from a firearm, police said.

He needs to go to jail for a very long time and never be able to own a gun again. Psycho asshole.

De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 5:39:21pm

Memo to Mitt: fanfuckintastic time to fuck over the 47% again! Let’s do this, bro!

Nyet Jul 4, 2016 • 5:39:52pm

re: #66 Anymouse

Who is PJ Watson (or is it better I do not know)?

PrisonPlanet/Alex Jones.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 5:40:12pm

Ivanka and Jared (and their kids) are Trump’s “magic bulletproof vests” protecting him from any criticism for all the racist shit he tweets.

Shiplord Kirel Jul 4, 2016 • 5:40:14pm

re: #60 Anymouse

Responsible gun owner annoyed by ten-year-old using fireworks fires .40 calibre gun at him.

jsonline.com (Goes to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal)

Just standing his ground against a clear and present danger
Illegal fireworks cause amputation of 9-year-old L.A. girl’s left hand; July 4 firecrackers cause injuries around America

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:40:45pm

re: #69 Nyet

PrisonPlanet/Alex Jones.

Got it. File under “wingnuts”

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 5:41:59pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka and Jared (and their kids) are Trump’s “magic bulletproof vests” protecting him from any criticism for all the racist shit he tweets.

They would be protected from his proposals.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 5:43:21pm

re: #73 Anymouse

They would be protected from his proposals.

File under NO SHIT SHERLOCK

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:44:11pm

Obama having a white mother doesn’t stop wingnuts from him calling him racist against whites.

Kragar Jul 4, 2016 • 5:48:35pm

From the people who brought you “The system is rigged!” and “The media is biased” comes “Meet the Trumps!” https://t.co/5wMz9k2lPa

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 5, 2016

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 5:49:42pm

re: #76 Kragar

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There’s something funny about a man who got a million dollar loan crying about a system being rigged against him. I can’t quite put my finger on it. // God at least Romney knew he was an entitled brat.

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:50:33pm

.@DanScavino Are you discussing how to prevent RTing neo-Nazis & antisemites in the future? I’m sure you realize this isn’t the 1st time.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 5, 2016

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:52:11pm

When, in reality, it’s *both* plagiarized and antisemitic. https://t.co/yiPwFvdixC @SopanDeb

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 5, 2016

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 4, 2016 • 5:53:24pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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it’s not that theyre anti semites, you see

they just happen to agree with almost every thing that anti semites say

De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 5:54:44pm

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 4, 2016 • 5:54:45pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka and Jared (and their kids) are Trump’s “magic bulletproof vests” protecting him from any criticism for all the racist shit he tweets.

i guess it’s good to keep a couple of jews around for protection just in case

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 5:59:19pm

Pretty sure these two traits aren’t mutually exclusive. @davidfrum @jerrysaltz

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 5, 2016

jaunte Jul 4, 2016 • 5:59:52pm

there has GOT to be a better word than “gaffe” for “major party candidate retweeting neo-nazis”
— Rowan Kaiser (@RowanKaiser) July 4, 2016

Joe Bacon Jul 4, 2016 • 6:00:14pm

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

DIM JIM’S HOT TAKE==>

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That boy’s elevator doesn’t go up all the way…

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 6:07:22pm

Love it when the guy whose whole campaign is based on demanding the first black president’s birth certificate wants the benefit of the doubt

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 4, 2016

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 6:08:00pm

re: #84 jaunte

Fascist.

PhillyPretzel Jul 4, 2016 • 6:09:13pm

It is raining out and the fireworks are still going on. Only on July 4th.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Jul 4, 2016 • 6:09:55pm

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

The ones at Penn’s Landing where I live are up in the clouds.

Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 6:09:58pm

This guy.

Why is President Obama allowed to use Air Force One on the campaign trail with Crooked Hillary? She is flying with him tomorrow. Who pays?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 4, 2016

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 4, 2016 • 6:10:34pm

“Look, just because it was sourced from an anti-Semite, and is being understood by my white supremacist base as a wink and nod to Jew-hating, that doesn’t make it racist!!!”

///

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Jul 4, 2016 • 6:10:43pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

IT’S NOT FAIR!!!
IT’S NOT FAIR!!!
IT’S NOT FAIRRRRR!!!

PhillyPretzel Jul 4, 2016 • 6:11:21pm

re: #89 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think it is Lawncrest Recreation Center that is firing them.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Jul 4, 2016 • 6:11:35pm

re: #91 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Oh yeah, you’re the real racist.

Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 6:13:25pm

Daily Kos has an article up (with lots of commentary) on CNN doing actual journalism. (Did someone wake up over at CNN?)

Brianna Keilor demolished a Trump surrogate on her programme over the anti-Semitic tweet.

dailykos.com

De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 6:13:32pm

Twilight Zone marathons rule!

Jay C Jul 4, 2016 • 6:16:31pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

That proves what I’ve always thought about conservatives. They think Israel is the only measure that can be viewed as supporting Jews or not. As if the right wing’s support of Israel is actually based in something that actually makes sense and isn’t rooted in crazy doomsday crap.

And it also works the other way: a lot of conservatives/Republicans seem to think that “support for Israel” - to be more precise, a slavish and uncritical support of various Israeli government “security” policies - is the sole issue American Jews care about; and every two/four years act surprised when American Jews vote their own preferences (strongly Democratic) - which voting patterns they usually end up “rationalizing” with “explanations” which typically differ from antisemitic tropes only in a matter of degree.

HappyWarrior Jul 4, 2016 • 6:17:58pm

re: #97 Jay C

And it also works the other way: a lot of conservatives/Republicans seem to think that “support for Israel” - to be more precise, a slavish and uncritical support of various Israeli government “security” policies - is the sole issue American Jews care about; and every two/four years act surprised when American Jews vote their own preferences (strongly Democratic) - which voting patterns they usually end up “rationalizing” with “explanations” which typically differ from antisemitic tropes only in a matter of degree.

Right that too.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:18:11pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

repeating because it’s good:

And who pays for Trump’s Secret Service detail while flying to Scotland to promote a stupid golf course? https://t.co/P5uXF0zGV3

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 4, 2016

100

(((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗))) Jul 4, 2016 • 6:19:13pm

re: #92 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

IT’S NOT FAIR!!!
IT’S NOT FAIR!!!
IT’S NOT FAIRRRRR!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 4, 2016 • 6:20:26pm

re: #97 Jay C

And it also works the other way: a lot of conservatives/Republicans seem to think that “support for Israel” - to be more precise, a slavish and uncritical support of various Israeli government “security” policies - is the sole issue American Jews care about; and every two/four years act surprised when American Jews vote their own preferences (strongly Democratic) - which voting patterns they usually end up “rationalizing” with “explanations” which typically differ from antisemitic tropes only in a matter of degree.

Well, since a significant percentage of them believe the Jews are destined to burn in the fires of the Apocalypse anyway, really the only reason to care about Israel is as the trigger for that Apocalypse. Were I a Jew, I would not find their ‘support’ comforting.

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Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 6:20:42pm

re: #97 Jay C

And it also works the other way: a lot of conservatives/Republicans seem to think that “support for Israel” - to be more precise, a slavish and uncritical support of various Israeli government “security” policies - is the sole issue American Jews care about; and every two/four years act surprised when American Jews vote their own preferences (strongly Democratic) - which voting patterns they usually end up “rationalizing” with “explanations” which typically differ from antisemitic tropes only in a matter of degree.

They ignore Israel’s socialised medical system and state-paid abortion though. Hypocrites.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 6:21:41pm

re: #100 (((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 6:24:37pm

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, since a significant percentage of them believe the Jews are destined to burn in the fires of the Apocalypse anyway, really the only reason to care about Israel is as the trigger for that Apocalypse. Were I a Jew, I would not find their ‘support’ comforting.

Well, to be fair, a lot of them just get a hardon from the Israelis killing, depossessing, and generally immiserating a lot of brown people.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 4, 2016 • 6:25:20pm

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, to be fair, a lot of them just get a hardon from the Israelis killing, depossessing, and generally immiserating a lot of brown people.

It’s a twofer!

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freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 6:28:56pm

re: #97 Jay C

My working hypothesis is that America is in the throes of a turbulent transition towards a post-Christian nation.

Given that a great share of American Christianity has been of the fundamentalist stripe, and a large swath of these are caught up into fantastical ideas of a magical future, and that fantasy includes something labeled “Israel”, it then follows that in becoming a post-Christian nation that our collective views of “Israel” are going to be challenged.

The failure of the late 20th century Apocalyptic themes of Christian fundamentalist America - that is, there in fact has been no Apocalypse - said fundamentalists are discredited in their own eyes.

I think this has added fuel to the apostasy, if I may use that term, we see in young people, whose parents are fundamentalists, who are now becoming “nones” or perhaps those still-rare “liberal Evangelicals.”

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Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 6:29:32pm

Democrats are frustrated with Republicans over funding wildfire fights.

nbcnews.com

Democrats assert the amount Republicans have suggested is not enough, and that the bill has been held up since June. The Forest Service says the amount proposed is $490 million too low for needs.

Republicans are arguing about costs.

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Charles Johnson Jul 4, 2016 • 6:35:03pm

Things are looking good for the Juno spacecraft about to go into close orbit around Jupiter!

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freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 6:36:31pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

As long as it doesn’t come across a fetus in a bed-chamber…

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 6:36:43pm

Marcello Mastroianni and Sophia Loren, just because

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 4, 2016 • 6:38:16pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

This guy.

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Who pays for Donald Trump’s Secret Service protection when he goes off to Scotland to promote his golf course?

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Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 6:38:28pm

huffingtonpost.com

GOP warning about further troop cuts in Afghanistan, claiming it will “destabilise the world.”

Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain are back on the same page at least.

My own senator (Ben Sasse) was quoted: Ultimately we’re going to win this fight, it’s just going to take decades. The American people will understand…”

No thanks, Senator. I don’t need my grandchildren (if I ever have any) fighting a war my great-grandchildren will be paying off started fifteen or so years ago.

Has the GOP always been at war with East Asia? Or is it Eurasia this week?

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Viscous Obama Jul 4, 2016 • 6:39:12pm

re: #58 Nyet

Similar sentiment in one of the deleted tweets:

He seems to have a pretty long post history on Brietbart, Twitchy, and The Right Scoop, where you can find more of his quality Photoshop work

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freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 6:42:14pm

re: #112 Anymouse

The likes of McCain and Sasse want another 100 Years war.

They really do.

All these folk have known is continual warfare.

This brings me back to one of the more stupid things Romney said - about America not liking war.

On the contrary, we love war. Since 1776 we’ve had one war after another. We’re a very militaristic nation.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 6:46:59pm

re: #113 Viscous Obama

Oh right, that’s Fox’s go-to “funny guy” when Dennis Miller is out of town. Speaking of whom,

“Yo Chachi, what do you call Dennis Miller when he’s out of town?”

“An out of town asshole, Chachi! Badabing!!”

;-)

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Stanley Sea Jul 4, 2016 • 6:47:41pm

I skip the Twilight Zone marathons pretty much every year, until they are basically forgotten. Tonight’s marathon is a wonderful treat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:47:48pm

Sad! Donor-poor Trump forced to buy fundraising email lists to fill empty campaign coffers https://t.co/ZKix2hlnJP pic.twitter.com/oNtIFkzGf2

— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 5, 2016

Donald Trump has sent a flurry of email fundraising appeals in recent days, though rather than originating from his campaign, some have been sent to addresses on lists purchased from other politicians or groups.

Trump’s reliance on purchased email lists is an indication that his campaign has failed to build its own large database of potential donors, political strategists say, a step considered crucial to competing in a national election.

“At this point in the game, a presidential candidate should have a substantially large house file that is constantly raising money. Acquiring lists at this point suggests they are far behind in building a house file,” said Rob Stutzman, a Sacramento, Calif.-based Republican consultant and frequent Trump critic. “It’s what they should be doing if he’s not going to self-fund, but they should have been doing it a year ago. Poor planning. Sad.”

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Jay C Jul 4, 2016 • 6:49:32pm

re: #106 freetoken

My working hypothesis is that America is in the throes of a turbulent transition towards a post-Christian nation.

Given that a great share of American Christianity has been of the fundamentalist stripe, and a large swath of these are caught up into fantastical ideas of a magical future, and that fantasy includes something labeled “Israel”, it then follows that in becoming a post-Christian nation that our collective views of “Israel” are going to be challenged.

The failure of the late 20th century Apocalyptic themes of Christian fundamentalist America - that is, there in fact has been no Apocalypse - said fundamentalists are discredited in their own eyes.

I think this has added fuel to the apostasy, if I may use that term, we see in young people, whose parents are fundamentalists, who are now becoming “nones” or perhaps those still-rare “liberal Evangelicals.”

I’d like to think you’re right about this - I believe the first point is correct: although there will always be a non-trivial number of young people who will swallow the religious-right line: maybe (one would hope) not as many as in the past; but enough to keep the grift going into another generation. Christian fundamentalism, ISTM, is just too well-baked into the social and political culture of too large a swathe of America to ever fade away completely: and the overt politicization of fundamentalism in the last few decades isn’t going to cease to be a major factor in our political discourse for a long time
As for the second point, fugeddaboudit (as they say in Joisey) - “Apocalyptics” have been predicting The End for a LONG time, and somehow, the calculations (especially those etched on the collection plate) always seem to get revised at regular intervals…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:49:57pm

Left: Statement from Trump campaign saying they got star image from Twitter user
Right: Another image from that user pic.twitter.com/Eyvv79CeBr

— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) July 5, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 6:50:05pm

This is what happens when Mythbusters aren’t around any more to do the fake cannon work:

Iowa woman killed when homemade cannon explodes

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Jul 4, 2016 • 6:50:46pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

So much for being a great businessman. He can’t even put together a proper campaign where people want to give you millions of dollars.

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stpaulbear Jul 4, 2016 • 6:51:29pm

Ha. The Amazon Lightning Deal for Feel The Bern 2016 posters ended with 0% claimed. I suppose that could mean that they sold up to 49 of them but had 10,000 to sell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:51:34pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Things are looking good for the Juno spacecraft about to go into close orbit around Jupiter!

Heads up, @NASAJPL mission control. Sending tones now. Do you copy? #Jupiter

— NASA’s Juno Mission (@NASAJuno) July 5, 2016

.@NASAJuno We read you loud + clear Showing antennas receiving data via https://t.co/V3WGqQrrvJ https://t.co/Adhup80EIg

— NASA JPL (@NASAJPL) July 5, 2016

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Jul 4, 2016 • 6:53:07pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Trump says we can’t do shit anymore…

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stpaulbear Jul 4, 2016 • 6:54:06pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Things are looking good for the Juno spacecraft about to go into close orbit around Jupiter!

NASA TV live

NASA TV Media

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:54:14pm

Check your attitude. Starting to turn in preparation for main engine burn. #Jupiter

— NASA’s Juno Mission (@NASAJuno) July 5, 2016

so exciting!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 6:54:54pm

This is just what we need—Texas in, California out:

#Calexit: Fear of a Trump presidency sparks renewed interest in California secession

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freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 6:55:44pm

re: #127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Not a real thing. That’s an internet-thing, designed for clicks.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 6:56:37pm

re: #122 stpaulbear

I received an “industrial” fan from a Amazon seller the day before yesterday and as much as I wanna despise Amazon and all they stand for, it’s a pretty cool neato good fan.

Should I vote for Sanders??? I’m confused.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 6:56:58pm

Plymouth fireworks. Barge on fire. pic.twitter.com/jMpXIXu2dR

— David Whiting (@_Smythe_) July 5, 2016

The whole thing went up all at once.

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stpaulbear Jul 4, 2016 • 6:58:40pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope they made him pay in advance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:00:38pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The whole thing went up all at once.

Reports out of Plymouth that all the fireworks exploded at once. Photo courtesy: Julia Nittler @NBC10 pic.twitter.com/M6XKcm1mPp

— Matt Reed (@MattReedNews) July 5, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 4, 2016 • 7:02:08pm

re: #131 stpaulbear

I hope they made him pay in advance.

I wonder if Kim Jong-un got a bunch of spam emails too.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 7:03:28pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

I skip the Twilight Zone marathons pretty much every year, until they are basically forgotten. Tonight’s marathon is a wonderful treat.

They’re airing a choice blend of hits and WTF’s tonight.

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BeachDem Jul 4, 2016 • 7:03:29pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

I skip the Twilight Zone marathons pretty much every year, until they are basically forgotten. Tonight’s marathon is a wonderful treat.

I’ve seen it about a zillion times, but “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street” still gets me.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 4, 2016 • 7:03:30pm

@JasonSamfield @DitoDC @stacy_alynn I’m sure knowing that would have taken a load off her back. pic.twitter.com/42zF02t6zs

— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 5, 2016

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Thanos Jul 4, 2016 • 7:03:48pm

When searching google images for “sheriff’s star” the first several pages have zero six pointed Sheriff’s stars without circles at the tip. Indeed, the only stars without the circles at the tip that I could see were all seven pointed.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 7:03:51pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yikes, Plymouth Mass?

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Stanley Sea Jul 4, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hope they got away in time.

Remember when San Diego went off all at once? People had the nerve to bitch & request a non-existent refund.

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Danack Jul 4, 2016 • 7:04:38pm

I’m reasonably sure someone here predicted this

Sanders delegates shocked they need cash for DNC trip

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Stanley Sea Jul 4, 2016 • 7:04:43pm

re: #134 De Kolta Chair

They’re airing a choice blend of hits and WTF’s tonight.

I’m on Talking Tina right now.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jul 4, 2016 • 7:05:46pm

Fireworks in Philly just started at the Art Museum. The Feline Overlords have headed to the bedroom to hide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:06:06pm

re: #138 De Kolta Chair

Yikes, Plymouth Mass?

~~Rhode Island, I think…but not sure.~~

Massachusetts.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 7:07:28pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

“My name is Talking Tina, and if you don’t send me my residuals I will not like you.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:07:56pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rhode Island, I think…but not sure.

OK, Massachusetts. It’s the fireworks at Plymouth Harbor.

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Jay C Jul 4, 2016 • 7:08:17pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rhode Island, I think…but not sure.

Nope - Plymouth MA

And it’s a scoop for the Lizard News Service: the two tweets posted here re apparently still the only images
(waiting for video!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:08:59pm

BREAKING: Plymouth Fire Dept. said no one was injured after fireworks barge exploded. https://t.co/KE2CBonalX

— CW56 Boston (@CW56) July 5, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 4, 2016 • 7:09:07pm

re: #142 Feline Fearless Leader

Fireworks in Philly just started at the Art Museum. The Feline Overlords have headed to the bedroom to hide.

We are having another night of private fireworks; my village doesn’t have enough money to spend on commercial displays.

I’ve said around town if I ever won something like the Mega Millions, I would spring for a fireworks display that would draw everyone in from around the area. (Probably set the prairie on fire too, but you have to break a few eggs or something for a patriotic display).

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Stanley Sea Jul 4, 2016 • 7:09:45pm

Talking Tina Daddy is a real big prick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:10:02pm

re: #146 Jay C

Nope - Plymouth MA

And it’s a scoop for the Lizard News Service: the two tweets posted here re apparently still the only images
(waiting for video!)

ask and ye shall receive:

The Plymouth fireworks barge had a misfire and they all went off pic.twitter.com/ca1g51WdSn

— John (@J_Griff97) July 5, 2016

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BeachDem Jul 4, 2016 • 7:10:19pm

The moron fireworks have been going off nonstop here for the past several hours. My only hope is they’re far enough away that they don’t set fire to my condo. But it sure is NOISY.

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gocart mozart Jul 4, 2016 • 7:12:10pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

@snickerfritz04 @GolanBu1 O no his brain is smokin,It is hard on them! pic.twitter.com/44KnwQMezV

— De DiMacrow (@DeDimacrow) July 4, 2016

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BeachDem Jul 4, 2016 • 7:12:51pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space

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freetoken Jul 4, 2016 • 7:13:10pm

File under careless-dilettante-archaeology:

Snapshot: The hunt for old stone

Q. What advice would you give to someone who wants to start looking for artifacts?

A. First, you want to know where you’re searching. You want to find an area where there most likely would have been a camp. You don’t want to go into just any field because some fields don’t have anything. You generally want to get permission. People see someone walking out there - they may not know what you’re doing. Different times of the the year you want to be careful. On hot days I’ve been dehydrated. You want to make sure you have the right gear for the weather.

I can’t think of an example where I wouldn’t want to get permission.

Also, nothing in the article about laws regarding collecting on public land. And not one whit paid to the possibility of disturbing important archaeological finds.

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De Kolta Chair Jul 4, 2016 • 7:13:34pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rhode Island, I think…but not sure.

Why am I not surprised? ;^)

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gocart mozart Jul 4, 2016 • 7:13:37pm

@debbie_gorton @SpinDr Don Don has just the thing for you Debbie! pic.twitter.com/YHbS0QnuSq

— De DiMacrow (@DeDimacrow) July 4, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 4, 2016 • 7:13:59pm

Is It Really “Ridiculous” to Say Trump’s “Star of David” Tweet Was Antisemitic?

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