Donald Trump Is Now Actually Defending That Antisemitic Tweet

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I don’t have a video clip for you yet, but at Donald Trump ‘s rally in Cincinnati he’s now defending that “Star of David” tweet attacking Hillary Clinton, that was lifted (in his social media director’s own words) from a racist, antisemitic Twitter user, appeared on an “alt-right” message board, and was applauded by former KKK leader David Duke. Trump now says it shouldn’t have been deleted at all.

And he actually said people who criticized the tweet as antisemitic are the real antisemites. Unreal. He’s screaming his speech, and seems even more unstable and unhinged at this one. It’s still going on; here’s the live feed if you want to observe the insanity.

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UPDATE at 7/6/16 4:51:16 pm by Charles Johnson

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371 comments
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:23:01pm

Of course he is.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:23:43pm

So, what’s the chance that Drumpfskind is really trying to sabotage his own campaign??

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:24:11pm

Now he’s screaming that they used an old picture of him swinging a golf club from another golf course.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:24:12pm

OT.
In my fair city of Henderson, Nv.
Link

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:24:15pm

Where is Reince??

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:25:12pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:25:40pm

There’s a reason politicians use teleprompters.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:25:58pm

OT: Space Junkie Service Announcement

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:26:05pm

Wow, now he has his son up there.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:26:42pm

re: #6 Jenner7

Never mind, Chuckie. Go back to sleep. That’s where you’re a Viking!

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:26:47pm

Completely insane.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:12pm

I noticed that the response at this Cincinnati crowd was pretty tepid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:14pm

Why is the background jumping?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:30pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:36pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:27:40pm

re: #12 Frankie Five Angels

I noticed that the response at this Cincinnati crowd was pretty tepid.

they didn’t know what to clap for.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:28:02pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

Why is the background jumping?

The camera guy is drinking at the same time to keep himself sane.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:28:09pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:28:54pm

I just hoped that mosquito would give him Zika. Does that make me a bad, horrible person?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:29:11pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:29:20pm

Bragging about his primary vote count even though Hillary got 3 million more votes than he did.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:29:41pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Bragging about his primary vote count even though Hillary got 3 million more votes than he did.

SAD!

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:29:52pm

Not only is he insanely rambling, but also he looks just horribly unhealthy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:30:09pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:30:27pm

Poor Katy Tur. They should give her a raise for having to cover this derp.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:30:50pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:30:55pm

Trump’s Nightmare:

he is trying to die politically but he cant seem to commit suicide no matter how hard he tries

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:31:03pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Wait - seriously?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:31:24pm

Just watch Katy Tur on the right while he’s screaming. I’m dying laughing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:31:38pm

Is Bobby Knight on the VP shortlist?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:32:10pm

He just said “big league” but it sounds like “bigly”

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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:32:19pm

Nice company you got there, shame if something would happen to it.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:32:25pm

It sounds like he’s talking to himself.

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:32:41pm

I don’t think he’s going to make it to the Convention. Good Lord.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:32:53pm

HIS VOICE

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:33:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:33:56pm

MY EARS ARE BLEEDING NOW

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KGxvi  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:34:08pm

FIREWALL

Fuck that, someone pass the fireball

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:34:29pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

HIS VOICE

He’s so unhinged now he’s become a caricature of himself. It’s simply nuts.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:34:43pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, let’s just hope it gets worse. I would personally like to be able to call him “Foamy, The Cheeto Jesus Who Blew Up Good.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:34:51pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:35:09pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:35:36pm

$51 million, meh. At this time in 2012 Mitt raised twice that.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:35:57pm
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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:36:16pm

I hate to say this but honestly, Trump sounds like he’s high on bath salts.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:37:17pm

Remember folks, Rush Limbaugh said “In my gut, Trump wins this in a landslide.”

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451_Montag  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:37:30pm

One of these days he is going to stroke out

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:37:45pm

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

$51 million, meh. At this time in 2012 Mitt raised twice that.

That’s assuming that figure has anything to do with reality, which is dubious; he certainly isn’t spending any money on ads or building more than the barest skeleton of an organization. If he’s raised that money, where the hell did it go?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:38:00pm

Well, he did get “stupid” right.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:38:14pm

re: #47 Frankie Five Angels

Remember folks, Rush Limbaugh said “In my gut, Trump wins this in a landslide.”

“In your guts, you know he’s nuts” applies much better now than to Goldwater.

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451_Montag  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:38:20pm

re: #49 Brian J.

That’s assuming that figure has anything to do with reality, which is dubious; he certainly isn’t spending any money on ads or building more than the barest skeleton of an organization. If he’s raised that money, where the hell did it go?

“Charity”

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:38:34pm

re: #48 451_Montag

One of these days he is going to stroke out

Could be slowly stroking out as we speak, but no-one dares interrupt teh Drumpf

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:39:02pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

HIS VOICE

And what comes out of his mouth. He’s totally off his rocker.

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:39:10pm

re: #50 Frankie Five Angels

Well, he did get “stupid” right.

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Wow

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:39:23pm

Is it safe to assume now that the GOP is planning the Cleveland Coup as we speak?

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KGxvi  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:39:29pm

Trump just told people to go vote for Rob Portman, and that he’s a good guy. SOMEONE GET EYES ON PORTMAN AND REMOVE ALL SHARP OBJECTS FOR THE VICINITY!

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:40:18pm

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

$51 million, meh. At this time in 2012 Mitt raised twice that.

And I believe he included a week from May in his June numbers, but who’s counting.

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:40:28pm

re: #56 Frankie Five Angels

Is it safe to assume now that the GOP is planning the Cleveland Coup as we speak?

Are we certain this isn’t part of the plan?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:40:31pm

No one is showing him anymore, just in the background & he’s screaming.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:40:44pm

re: #2 freetoken

So, what’s the chance that Drumpfskind is really trying to sabotage his own campaign??

I thought so for a while but now I think that he’s still in it because he can’t believe he won’t win in the end. That might be his mental illness, but he wants that goddamned prize. It’s HIS, dammit.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:41:20pm

re: #47 Frankie Five Angels

Remember folks, Rush Limbaugh said “In my gut, Trump wins this in a landslide.”

Rush Limbaugh’s gut is right between his ears. And he takes a dump every day on air.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:41:40pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:41:54pm

His voice is giving me the creeps.

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:41:57pm

I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore! Speech from Network (1080p)

But Fascist Yam was more insane.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:42:08pm

re: #49 Brian J.

From what I’ve gathered, it’s actually about half that amount going to his campaign, and it covers 5 weeks, not 4. So the comparisons with Mitt’s 2012 June haul look even worse. He’s sucking yugely, and doesn’t care.

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:42:18pm

re: #50 Frankie Five Angels

Well, he did get “stupid” right.

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Chuck Todd—the man with no name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:42:40pm

heh…it’s tonight’s rally in Ohio…

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:43:14pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

In HAHA GOODONE’s mind, this will be Bernie playing Lucy to Hillary’s Charlie Brown.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:43:36pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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heh…it’s tonight’s rally in Ohio…

Now that’s some serious trolling.

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KGxvi  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:43:52pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:44:32pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:44:40pm

re: #47 Frankie Five Angels

Remember folks, Rush Limbaugh said “In my gut, Trump wins this in a landslide.”

that’s a pretty large place for Trump Wins to fight its way out of

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:44:59pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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To support her or stab her in the back? I’m picking #2.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:45:58pm

If Trump was trying to capitalize on Comey’s press conference yesterday, I think it’s fair to say that he failed.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:46:23pm

Unhinged

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:46:56pm

re: #69 Franklin

In HAHA GOODONE’s mind, this will be Bernie playing Lucy to Hillary’s Charlie Brown.

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It’s worked so far. Hillary’s been appeasing Sanders’ egomania and has never pushed back. Sanders will no doubt demand the nomination or go third party.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:48:21pm

Meanwhile…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:48:54pm

re: #75 Frankie Five Angels

If Trump was trying to capitalize on Comey’s press conference yesterday, I think it’s fair to say that he failed.

Somebody pointed out that his need to dominate each news cycle leads him to repeatedly push bad news about Hillary out of the public eye.

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Danack  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:51:14pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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heh…it’s tonight’s rally in Ohio…

No words…….no words……..should have sent a poet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:51:40pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:52:28pm
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:53:33pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Drumpfskind’s reality-TV-addicted fans love this type of stuff.

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:53:33pm

Anyone who defends the yam from this point forward gets to meet my block button on all social media. I cannot give the benefit of the doubt. Yam is certifiable.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:53:41pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:54:06pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

AP Politics ✔ @AP_Politics
Source says Clinton and Sanders could appear at a joint event Tuesday in New Hampshire

I wonder if getting booed by the house Democrats helped him decide?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:54:22pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:54:24pm

re: #84 plansbandc

I have officially shut down Facebook until I wake up Wednesday morning, November 9.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:55:12pm

WASHINGTON (CNN) —Donald Trump is coming to Capitol Hill to rally the GOP troops roughly two weeks before he’s slated to accept his party’s nomination for president at the GOP convention in Cleveland, but the crowd might be a little thin.

“I’ve got a long-standing appointment downtown and I don’t know at what time I can get out of that and get back to the Hill,” Rep. Fred Upton, R-Michigan, told reporters Wednesday.

Colorado GOP Rep. Mike Coffman, one of the House Democrats’ top targets in November, told CNN, “I’m not going to be able to make it. I’ve got a conflict.”

Sen. Pat Toomey, who is in a difficult re-election race in Pennsylvania and has not endorsed Trump, shrugged off questions about the meeting Trump has scheduled with at the National Republican Senatorial Committee Thursday.

“I haven’t checked my schedule yet,” Toomey said Wednesday evening when asked if he’d attend the Trump session. “I don’t know.”

Asked if he felt the need to hear what his party’s nominee had to say, Upton, who hasn’t endorsed Trump and isn’t planning to attend the convention, said about his own meeting, “This has been set up for some time.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:55:16pm
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:56:58pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toomey has to attend the opening of his garage door?

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:57:21pm

re: #47 Frankie Five Angels

Remember folks, Rush Limbaugh said “In my gut, Trump wins this in a landslide.”

Limbaugh thinks with his stomach?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:57:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:57:46pm

re: #92 Double Dumbass

Limbaugh thinks with his stomach?

Surprised?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:57:49pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

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Unhinged

I keep watching this

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:58:53pm

re: #92 Double Dumbass

Limbaugh thinks with his stomach?

Perhaps by “gut” he meant his distal intestinal tract??

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:59:28pm

Donny. Feel free to repost the neo-Nazi Star of David tweet then. Go for it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:59:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:59:54pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:00:02pm

re: #96 freetoken

Perhaps by “gut” he meant his distal intestinal tract??

It’s all gut.

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:00:04pm
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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:01:42pm

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

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Trump demands respect; Palin demanded deference. Potato/potahto. (they’re both batshit.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:03:16pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

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The crazy thing is, he was COMPLETELY WRONG about Saddam being great at killing terrorists. He was paying the families of suicide bombers, for Christ’s sake! That’s pretty much as far as you can go from killing them.

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TK-421  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:04:02pm

re: #85 Frankie Five Angels

The GOP convention will be full of empty chairs this round.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:04:24pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:04:31pm

I still hope Obama’s first post-presidency book is titled “Can You Believe This Shit?” I’m surprised he hasn’t said it in public yet.

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:05:09pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s wrong about everything. Doesn’t matter. The media gives him a pass and his idiot followers would cheer him on if he just spent an hour spewing out random letters and numbers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:05:09pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:06:06pm

I have a large wager with my wingnut cousin that Drumpf will go under 209 electoral votes. Thoughts?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:06:31pm

I figure he gets all of Romney’s states except North Carolina. That would put him at 191.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:06:54pm

Republican Party Washing Its Hair During Convention Week, Is Very Sorry But Can’t Attend

will definitely get together with trump some indefinite time in the future but it’s very busy right now what with everything and you know

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:07:40pm

re: #109 Frankie Five Angels

I don’t think he’s going to be the candidate, so yes, I will take that under bet.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:07:43pm

re: #96 freetoken

Perhaps by “gut” he meant his distal intestinal tract??

No doubt.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:07:44pm

Night Lizards. See you in the A.M.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:08:39pm

re: #112 plansbandc

I don’t think he’s going to be the candidate, so yes, I will take that under bet.

I have $500 at 6/1 on that happening as well.

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majii  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:09:10pm

re: #111 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

What I’m seeing of GOP pols saying they won’t be at their own convention reminds me of rats fleeing a burning, rapidly sinking ship.

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Maddies Mom  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:09:17pm

re: #82 GlutenFreeJesus

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His pupils really look “bigly” dilated. Must be that phen-fen he takes. Or whatever the hell it is his doctor prescribes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:09:29pm

STUPIDEST TRUMPORRHOID MEME OF THE DAY==>

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:09:41pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

The crazy thing is, he was COMPLETELY WRONG about Saddam being great at killing terrorists. He was paying the families of suicide bombers, for Christ’s sake! That’s pretty much as far as you can go from killing them.

I think we’re at the point of does trump ever, EVER! get anything right? Is ignorant beyond what I could have ever contemplated and still cannot comprehend.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:09:59pm

Possible coup talk on Hayes right now.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:10:39pm
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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:11:10pm

re: #110 Frankie Five Angels

I figure he gets all of Romney’s states except North Carolina. That would put him at 191.

I don’t think he’ll get Utah. If he picks Newt, Utah is gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:11:31pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:11:31pm

Delete your account, Bernie

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:11:32pm

re: #112 plansbandc

I don’t think he’s going to be the candidate, so yes, I will take that under bet.

Agreed.

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:12:08pm

I caught most of this Trump ‘speech’ and I have to say, he is a fascinating study in random thought processes connected to loose lips.

What a rant Donny. What a rant.

Say, what does it mean though? Do you even know?

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:12:14pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Delete your account, Bernie

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We all saw you give it your best shot, Sanders.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:13:37pm

It’s a look. Not a particularly good look, but definitely a look.

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:13:58pm

re: #119 MsJ

I think we’re at the point of does trump ever, EVER! get anything right? Is ignorant beyond what I could have ever contemplated and still cannot comprehend.

Trump lives in a fantasyland where he’s never wrong about anything. If you think he’s wrong there’s something seriously wrong with you, and people have told him that people who say he’s wrong are just evil.

This is the person the GOP thinks should be president. It’s damn frightening.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:14:02pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Delete your account, Bernie

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To quote the house democrats, “BOOOOO!!!”

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:14:45pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:15:35pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Eric would have made a good model for an SS recruiting poster. Jr. just looks like an asshole.

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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:16:02pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:17:03pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

He just said “big league” but it sounds like “bigly”

I heard him last night in one speech and he slowed down enough you could hear him utter a “gah” at the end of it. First time I actually caught a ‘g’ sound. Maybe they have been working on that since it is a huuuuuge internt thing.

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:18:24pm

re: #41 nines09

Oh, let’s just hope it gets worse. I would personally like to be able to call him “Foamy, The Cheeto Jesus Who Blew Up Good.”

Seems rather long. Hmmm. Drop “the” and you’re good to go.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:18:50pm

So there’s 900 R delegates in play. I, personally, think Trump’s gone. The big question is…who replaced him? Who can satisfy all the GOP “bases” (SoCons, neoconservatives, taxed enoughers, racists and various phobes)? What combo of POTUS/VPOTUS could satisfy? Can all branches of the base be satisfied?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:18:55pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

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It’s a look. Not a particularly good look, but definitely a look.

Wall Street 1985.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:19:16pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:20:00pm

re: #136 MsJ

Romney.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:20:48pm

re: #139 Frankie Five Angels

Romney.

I don’t see that at all. Might placate some but enough?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:21:04pm

re: #109 Frankie Five Angels

I have a large wager with my wingnut cousin that Drumpf will go under 209 electoral votes. Thoughts?

Quite possible.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:21:50pm

re: #140 MsJ

Paul Ryan? Nah.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:21:54pm

re: #110 Frankie Five Angels

I figure he gets all of Romney’s states except North Carolina. That would put him at 193.

Local pundits here in Nebraska are starting to speak of Mrs. Clinton taking four of our five electoral votes. (President Obama took NE2 - Omaha in 2012, and local polling by newspapers seems to indicate that the tide is shifting in NE1 - Lincoln. Those two districts would overwhelm mine, NE3, and give four of five votes to Mrs. Clinton. I can dream anyway… .)

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:22:14pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

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Unhinged

He’s learning from Alex Jones. Good to see he is working with the real pros!

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:22:39pm

re: #136 MsJ

So there’s 900 R delegates in play. I, personally, think Trump’s gone. The big question is…who replaced him? Who can satisfy all the GOP “bases” (SoCons, neoconservatives, taxed enoughers, racists and various phobes)? What combo of POTUS/VPOTUS could satisfy? Can all branches of the base be satisfied?

No one can satisfy them, but a blood sacrifice of a couple of million liberals might placate the Free Republic mob.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:23:30pm

re: #136 MsJ

So there’s 900 R delegates in play. I, personally, think Trump’s gone. The big question is…who replaced him? Who can satisfy all the GOP “bases” (SoCons, neoconservatives, taxed enoughers, racists and various phobes)? What combo of POTUS/VPOTUS could satisfy? Can all branches of the base be satisfied?

Kasich/Marsha Blackburn

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:23:37pm

re: #143 Anymouse

Local pundits here in Nebraska are starting to speak of Mrs. Clinton taking four of our five electoral votes. (President Obama took NE2 - Omaha in 2012, and local polling by newspapers seems to indicate that the tide is shifting in NE1 - Lincoln. Those two districts would overwhelm mine, NE3, and give four of five votes to Mrs. Clinton. I can dream anyway… .)

I keep reading NE is solidly red. Like by double digits.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:23:46pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

RNC convention whip count: 890 delegates for Trump, 680 anti-Trump, 900 “in play.”

Trexit. What are they gonna do when they dump Trump but can’t get more than 600 pissed off delegates to agree on any replacement? What a mess.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:23:50pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:24:15pm

Does anyone here think Hillary has a chance to win Arizona? I think it’s possible, say, a 40-45% chance?

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:25:23pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Kasich/Marsha Blackburn

I think Kasich is too “sane” for today’s GOP. He’s not but he portrays it.

That’s a possibility. He’s eat Blackburn though. He seems to have woman issues.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:25:34pm

re: #147 MsJ

It’s worth keeping in mind that NE portions the EVs based on the congressional district.

A statewide poll is the same thing as taking the national polling as an indication of what the Electoral College spread will be.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:25:59pm

re: #151 MsJ

Aw Shucks Johnny. What an asshole he is.

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:26:17pm

Anyone cares…Chris Hayes will be interviewing Bernie Sanders in a couple minutes on MSNBC.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:26:42pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

1929 called. They want their smug back.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:26:57pm

re: #150 Frankie Five Angels

Does anyone here think Hillary has a chance to win Arizona? I think it’s possible, say, a 40-45% chance?

Nate Silver said yes. We’ll see.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:27:20pm

Free to good home: presidential system, rarely strained

Can we have a prime minister elected by his/her fellow MPs? Please?

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:27:42pm

re: #106 stpaulbear

I still hope Obama’s first post-presidency book is titled “Can You Believe This Shit?” I’m surprised he hasn’t said it in public yet.

It is definitely written on his face. I’ve seen it many many times.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:28:36pm

re: #147 MsJ

I keep reading NE is solidly red. Like by double digits.

Well, I am going by my local papers. Of course, polling this far out still doesn’t carry a lot of weight.

As for Nebraska being solid red, there’s that vote for Obama in 2012. While the state has voted red for a long time, it only has five electoral votes in total, so national pollsters don’t pay attention to us.

If Hillary Clinton is serious about a fifty state strategy, it would seem likely she would make at least one campaign appearance here (it has been a long time since a Presidential candidate from either party bothered with us).

Every electoral vote that goes to Mrs. Clinton (even if it is only just the one Obama got in 2012) makes it that much harder for the GOP this time round.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:29:33pm

re: #159 Anymouse

Well, I am going by my local papers. Of course, polling this far out still doesn’t carry a lot of weight.

As for Nebraska being solid red, there’s that vote for Obama in 2012. While the state has voted red for a long time, it only has five electoral votes in total, so national pollsters don’t pay attention to us.

If Hillary Clinton is serious about a fifty state strategy, it would seem likely she would make at least one campaign appearance here (it has been a long time since a Presidential candidate from either party bothered with us).

Every electoral vote that goes to Mrs. Clinton (even if it is only just the one Obama got in 2012) makes it that much harder for the GOP this time round.

I’m all for it! 100%!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:29:55pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clinton is a master-level Wiseass.

Not as good as Obama though.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:30:02pm

NASA TV: Expedition 48 Soyuz MS-01 Launch Coverage via UStream

Iframe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:30:25pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

Anyone cares…Chris Hayes will be interviewing Bernie Sanders in a couple minutes on MSNBC.

cat broke my tv.
too bad, so sad…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:30:46pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:31:02pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

Anyone cares…Chris Hayes will be interviewing Bernie Sanders in a couple minutes on MSNBC.

Watching.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:31:49pm

Hello.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:31:58pm

if trump addressed it we’d have astonishing audio from both him & the audience.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:32:05pm
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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:32:12pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

cat broke my tv.
too bad, so sad…

Big Prime sales day 7/12. Maybe you can find a replacement (and a little super glue :-)

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:32:41pm

Remember: this is the whackdoodle crazipants the GOP members of congress insist they will be able to control.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:33:12pm

Almost forgot. The (Un)usual video exit I generally make when I leave.

GAY SUICIDES SONG

Live with it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:33:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:34:39pm

One hallmark of really extreme racist websites is their proclivity for coining new slurs. It is kind of a contest with them, something like puns here.
Spotted today at Free Republic: “ghettopotamus” and its plural “ghettopotami.” This occurred in a discussion of a brawl at Walmart, and refers specifically to the legendary fat minority women who are forever buying vast stocks of lobster and prime-rib with their SNAP cards. Today it was porterhouse. The term met with general applause from the assembled bigot multitude.
Freep still forbids the “n-word” but anything the bigots can invent or dig up from well-deserved obscurity (“quadroon”) seems to escape the notice of the mods.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:35:08pm

Sixteen, seventeen different ostensibly serious Republicans were unable to defeat the Incredible Talking Yam! Sitting senators, sitting governors, the wow very deep incredible bench.

Just fucking incredible. All y’all built that!

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:35:14pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

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if trump addressed it we’d have astonishing audio from both him & the audience.

I think we are all thankful he managed to keep his mouth shut. Given his usual ignorance, there’s a good chance he hasn’t heard it and if his aides are smart (haha, yea I know) they’ll keep this story far away from him.

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:36:23pm

re: #136 MsJ

So there’s 900 R delegates in play. I, personally, think Trump’s gone. The big question is…who replaced him? Who can satisfy all the GOP “bases” (SoCons, neoconservatives, taxed enoughers, racists and various phobes)? What combo of POTUS/VPOTUS could satisfy? Can all branches of the base be satisfied?

Won’t it be embarrassing if it’s Kasich and he doesn’t even show up to the convention in his own state?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:37:36pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:38:35pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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Luckily, Newt never ventures far without his Calista Model A12 Skeeter Sucker. Self powered, personable and completely disguised as a gold digging woman who got Newt to commit adultery. Again. It’s a winner!
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Kragar  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:38:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:39:38pm

Bernie softening a bit. Says he and Clinton have worked out a deal on ‘free’ college…something about families under 120,000 would get help and it is a big deal. Sounds like more in the works and he is apparently happy that they are negotiating. Also talking a bit about his ego…and he passed that off as him just wanting to keep his life work going. Told Hayes not to believe everything he reads in the papers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:40:10pm
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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:40:33pm

re: #160 MsJ

I’m all for it! 100%!

I’ll be doing some serious phone banking. A lot of the Republicans in my village are disillusioned about the election here.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:40:57pm

re: #178 nines09

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Well that’ll scare the mosquitoes away.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:41:10pm

Cuteness in the wild alert

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:42:01pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

Bernie softening a bit. Says he and Clinton have worked out a deal on ‘free’ college…something about families under 120,000 would get help and it is a big deal. Sounds like more in the works and he is apparently happy that they are negotiating. Also talking a bit about his ego…and he passed that off as him just wanting to keep his life work going. Told Hayes not to believe everything he reads in the papers.

Of course he’s happy. Hillary’s letting him walk all over her. Hillary, you won! Act like it!

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:42:23pm

I’m looking forward to Bernie supporters losing their shit when Sanders endorses Hillary.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:43:08pm

re: #185 Brian J.

Of course he’s happy. Hillary’s letting him walk all over her. Hillary, you won! Act like it!

Why the immediate assumption that Hillary Clinton is capitulating here?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:43:31pm

re: #136 MsJ

So there’s 900 R delegates in play. I, personally, think Trump’s gone. The big question is…who replaced him? Who can satisfy all the GOP “bases” (SoCons, neoconservatives, taxed enoughers, racists and various phobes)? What combo of POTUS/VPOTUS could satisfy? Can all branches of the base be satisfied?

the problem tho is any reasonable person will enrage the base

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:43:43pm

re: #91 freetoken

Toomey has to attend the opening of his garage door?

No-he has to floss his cat.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:43:51pm

re: #175 InfidelOfFreedom

I think we are all thankful he managed to keep his mouth shut. Given his usual ignorance, there’s a good chance he hasn’t heard it and if his aides are smart (haha, yea I know) they’ll keep this story far away from him.

Which means he’ll talk about it for half an hour tomorrow because of Hillary.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:44:45pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

Why the immediate assumption that Hillary Clinton is capitulating here?

Because she’s been doing so for the last month, giving him seats on the platform committee, discarding her platform planks to accommodate his, never raising an objection when Sanders continues to call her and the rest of the party corrupt.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:04pm

re: #186 Jenner7

I’m looking forward to Bernie supporters losing their shit when Sanders endorses Hillary.

Much like Obama supporters said about Clinton in the 2008 race.

Don’t need to attack each other, we both have a fascist talking yam to defeat, along with the party that supported him.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:08pm

re: #183 InfidelOfFreedom

Well that’ll scare the mosquitoes away.

She can suck a quarter acre clear of skeeters at sundown in under 3 minutes. Her self starting special scent oil elixir drives biting females crazy and they rush right into her laser guided eradication system. All while having a cocktail and making small talk.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:21pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

Why the immediate assumption that Hillary Clinton is capitulating here?

I agree. Cooperation and compromise are what we need. Get the sane Bernie folks on board. This is a huge win. It’s not a capitulation.

I’d still like to tell Bernie to fuck off. Which is why I’d suck as a politician.

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:32pm

re: #179 Kragar

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Problem is, both parties tend to see the election in just these terms.
The important factor is going to be how many on each side are going to turn out and actually VOTE!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:46:36pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

They must buy Brylcream by the barrel.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:46:47pm

re: #136 MsJ

They dump Trump at the convention and you can kiss all his followers goodbye at the voting booth.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:46:53pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

Which means he’ll talk about it for half an hour tomorrow because of Hillary.

I honestly don’t know if I can withstand a “Trump Take” on police brutality against African Americans. It’s too painful to contemplate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:47:21pm

Is it possible Hillary could crack 400? That would be something to see.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:47:43pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

Why the immediate assumption that Hillary Clinton is capitulating here?

Gotta go into all discussions mindful of the Big Bad Other. Politics is always a zero-sum game. It’s impossible to work with somebody unless they are your absolute and complete vassal. It’s more important for Them to lose than for you to win.

Did I miss any?

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:47:59pm

re: #191 Brian J.

Because she’s been doing so for the last month, giving him seats on the platform committee, discarding her platform planks to accommodate his, never raising an objection when Sanders continues to call her and the rest of the party corrupt.

So what. We face an extinction-level threat in the form of Trump and the Republicans.

Like it or not, enough people voted for Sanders in the primary to justify making some tangible concessions to foster party unity.

This isn’t a repeat of 2008, where the two contenders basically had the same policy positions.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:48:19pm

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

They dump Trump at the convention and you can kiss all his followers goodbye at the voting booth.

His followers are dwindling. But I get your point to be sure.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:49:34pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

So what. We face an extinction-level threat in the form of Trump and the Republicans.

Like it or not, enough people voted for Sanders in the primary to justify making some tangible concessions to foster party unity.

This isn’t a repeat of 2008, where the two contenders basically had the same policy positions.

I don’t like guaranteeing our own ELE four or eight years down the road when most of our voters who remember the party’s quadrennial hammerings when they ran left-wing candidates are no longer with us.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:50:19pm

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

They dump Trump at the convention and you can kiss all his followers goodbye at the voting booth.

As a party this is true, yes. But as we saw all too well in the primaries, the Party is not a single rational actor that makes all decisions in its overall best interest. Individual members will peel off, confident (sensibly or not) in their immediate electoral hopes and looking forward to be able to say they were one of the sane ones, one of the first who stood against the evil stupid charlatan, building towards higher office in 2018 or 2020.

Nobody likes being associated with a loser, anyway. Better to call him a loser and be right than be tied to him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:51:04pm

re: #203 Brian J.

Youtube Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:51:36pm

Li’l Whiplash must have listened to the Bizarro Universe FBI announcement

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:52:13pm

re: #203 Brian J.

I don’t like guaranteeing our own ELE four or eight years down the road when most of our voters who remember the party’s quadrennial hammerings when they ran left-wing candidates are no longer with us.

I truly do regret that your vaguely sane and fact-based conservative party caught a severe case of rabies and is frothing in every direction at once, but ham-handed attempts to force the current Democratic party platform discussions into this mold are forcing the MBF to charge time-and-a-half.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:52:33pm

re: #205 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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TACOS!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:20pm

re: #208 Not a Sparkly Vampire

TACOS!

The best complement a friend ever gave me was that I was a competent Zim.

(She was definitely Gir.)

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:25pm

Chuckles Todd has video up from his MTPDaily from earlier tonight. I commented about this segment last thread where he interviews Abbe Lowell about Hillary’s email and why there was no real criminal intent, etc. I found it informative and a viewpoint no one seems to be going with.

The interview comes up about a minute in after some video of Clinton speaking earlier in Atlantic City.

Iframe

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:37pm

re: #185 Brian J.

Of course he’s happy. Hillary’s letting him walk all over her. Hillary, you won! Act like it!

Act like how? Like doing a Trump and Chris Christie number?
Yeah, Hillary won: acting moderately gracious (even if it’s just acting) doesn’t have much of a downside (it rarely does for winners) in the intra-party sense. It won’t make the Busters happy - but nothing will, so why not humor the non-moonbat wing a bit?

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:59pm

re: #56 Frankie Five Angels

Is it safe to assume now that the GOP is planning the Cleveland Coup as we speak?

Reince Priebus is busy rewatching the “Red Wedding” episode of Game of Thrones and thinking it’s looking better and better.

RBS

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:54:19pm

re: #203 Brian J.

I don’t like guaranteeing our own ELE four or eight years down the road when most of our voters who remember the party’s quadrennial hammerings when they ran left-wing candidates are no longer with us.

I don’t think having some lefty planks in the Democratic party platform is a big deal either way. Personally I tend to approve, but that is irrelevant.

US politics is not going to be left vs. right for the foreseeable future. It is going to be the sane vs. the barking mad. We get the extinction level event if the Republicans get full power while they are still barking mad.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:54:43pm

re: #212 Reality Based Steve

Reince Priebus is busy rewatching the “Red Wedding” episode of Game of Thrones and thinking it’s looking better and better.

The Romneys send their regards.

[shank]

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:55:04pm

Chilcot report: Tony Blair’s Iraq War case not justified

Duh.

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:55:18pm
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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:56:27pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

I don’t think having some lefty planks in the Democratic party platform is a big deal either way. Personally I tend to approve, but that is irrelevant.

US politics is not going to be left vs. right for the foreseeable future. It is going to be the sane vs. the barking mad. We get the extinction level event if the Republicans get full power while they are still barking mad.

True. How would you describe most Sandbaggers? I don’t think they’re in the “sane” party. There’s plenty of precedent for building a wall around the workers’ paradise.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:57:02pm

re: #198 InfidelOfFreedom

I honestly don’t know if I can withstand a “Trump Take” on police brutality against African Americans. It’s too painful to contemplate.

I never watch any of his videos. Because of the way I grew up, that kind of stupid aggression just tears me up inside. I can’t see it as funny or just ride it out.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:58:39pm

re: #212 Reality Based Steve

Reince Priebus is busy rewatching the “Red Wedding” episode of Game of Thrones and thinking it’s looking better and better.

RBS

Starring Dick Cheney as Walder Frey.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:58:40pm

re: #204 Testy Toad T

Quite simply, I do not trust his supporters to be complacent in a dump Trump process. Trump has already used them to intimidate others and if he thinks he has nothing to lose, it could be much worse. He knows these neo-Nazis and other violent elements are planning to attend. Perhaps I’m being melodramatic but it is a truly terrifying prospect either way.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:58:59pm

If Trump comments on Baton Rouge, holy shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:59:38pm

I angried up a Bro.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:59:54pm

re: #207 Testy Toad T

I truly do regret that your vaguely sane and fact-based conservative party caught a severe case of rabies and is frothing in every direction at once, but ham-handed attempts to force the current Democratic party platform discussions into this mold are forcing the MBF to charge time-and-a-half.

The Republicans have been working their way towards Trumpism for decades. There is nothing on the Democratic side that is remotely equivalent to the fact-free empire of the Right Wing Noise Machine.

There is also nothing in the Democratic side that is remotely equivalent to decades of pandering to the resentments of the worst elements of US society by fostering and promoting bigotry.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:00:00pm

re: #218 stpaulbear

I never watch any of his videos. Because of the way I grew up, that kind of stupid aggression just tears me up inside. I can’t see it as funny or just ride it out.

I agree… I find it very unnerving and it upsets me more than I sometimes expect.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:00:34pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

US politics is not going to be left vs. right for the foreseeable future. It is going to be the sane vs. the barking mad. We get the extinction level event if the Republicans get full power while they are still barking mad.

To be honest, I am terrified of the nativist trade/economy creature that Trump and Sanders have helped to unearth. It’s awfully hard to articulate in a brief sound bite why the industrial economy of the postwar era is never, ever coming back, and there are still a whole bunch lot of folks who fondly remember those days.

I absolutely think a charismatic, well-spoken “compassionate conservative” could peel off basically the entire midwest if he or she (lol: he) were able to massage the message into a form the Kochs would sign off on.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:01:43pm

re: #217 Brian J.

True. How would you describe most Sandbaggers? I don’t think they’re in the “sane” party. There’s plenty of precedent for building a wall around the workers’ paradise.

I’ll be concerned about the sandbaggers when it is clear there are a large number of them. If Hillary Clinton is a reasonably gracious winner, this shouldn’t be a problem.

See also the PUMAs in 2008, who ended up making a lot of noise on the internet while not mattering in the end.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:02:07pm

re: #223 EPR-radar

The Republicans have been working their way towards Trumpism for decades. There is nothing on the Democratic side that is remotely equivalent to the fact-free empire of the Right Wing Noise Machine.

There is also nothing in the Democratic side that is remotely equivalent to decades of pandering to the resentments of the worst elements of US society by fostering and promoting bigotry.

You’d like to think that, but there’s Salon and the Huffington Post, Counterpunch, the Intercept, US Uncut, and plenty of others, pumping out the hard-left propaganda. There are the remains of Occupy Wall Street and the Shaun King-types of BLM and other groups. I really didn’t know about many of them until this year, but they’re the people who will drive the Democrats mad if the Democrats let them.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:02:17pm

re: #217 Brian J.

True. How would you describe most Sandbaggers? I don’t think they’re in the “sane” party. There’s plenty of precedent for building a wall around the workers’ paradise.

Except we are Democrats. And we, the Democrats, stand for a lot of the platform. And we, the Democrats, would be pissed if Hillary took a right turn. And we, the Democrats, would revolt if what they’ve (they being the crazy left) been saying about her - which is not true (corporate shill, DINO, etc.), became true.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:02:40pm

re: #217 Brian J.

True. How would you describe most Sandbaggers? I don’t think they’re in the “sane” party. There’s plenty of precedent for building a wall around the workers’ paradise.

The overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters are going to vote for Clinton.

Continual twisting the knife to score points “you lost get over it” will drive sane voters to not vote. Those are the ones you want to keep.

Whatever moonbats are frothing at the mouth on Twitter are not going to vote for Mrs. Clinton no matter if you gave them ponies and a rainbow, but all political parties have always had people like that

It would seem to me as a lifelong Democrat (and former Sanders supporter) the goal here is to not drive away the sane voters from voting. (It plays into the magic balance fairy argument that both parties are equally bad.)

There is no shame in being magnanimous in victory. There is a long history of people being punished for being uncaring or sore winners. All that is required from Mrs. Clinton now is to treat Sanders and his supporters respectfully, but focus on the main goal of defeating the Velveeta Raccoon. Like the PUMAs in 2008, the majority will come round.

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Kragar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:02:43pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:04:41pm

re: #225 Testy Toad T

To be honest, I am terrified of the nativist trade/economy creature that Trump and Sanders have helped to unearth. It’s awfully hard to articulate in a brief sound bite why the industrial economy of the postwar era is never, ever coming back, and there are still a whole bunch lot of folks who fondly remember those days.

I absolutely think a charismatic, well-spoken “compassionate conservative” could peel off basically the entire midwest if he or she (lol: he) were able to massage the message into a form the Kochs would sign off on.

Ironically, it’s because the industrial economy became more widespread, not that it disappeared. Globalization meant that all of a sudden (or at least within just a few years), nations that had been mostly agricultural and irrelevant to the global economy started to challenge the US and Europe for goods and materials, and started to manufacture with quality meeting and then exceeding ours. It’d have taken World War III to prune them back, and even then there’d be new industrializing nations.

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Snarknado!  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:04:59pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

cat broke my tv.
too bad, so sad…

BWS, didn’t that cat also break your arm?

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:05:15pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

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if trump addressed it we’d have astonishing audio from both him & the audience.

And Bernie would have blamed it on Wall Street.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:05:53pm

re: #225 Testy Toad T

To be honest, I am terrified of the nativist trade/economy creature that Trump and Sanders have helped to unearth. It’s awfully hard to articulate in a brief sound bite why the industrial economy of the postwar era is never, ever coming back, and there are still a whole bunch lot of folks who fondly remember those days.

I absolutely think a charismatic, well-spoken “compassionate conservative” could peel off basically the entire midwest if he or she (lol: he) were able to massage the message into a form the Kochs would sign off on.

That post war economy existed in part because the rest of the world was a customer to us: Europe and Asia were rebuilding. Trade was very important to keeping our manufacturing going.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:06:27pm

re: #211 Jay C

Act like how? Like doing a Trump and Chris Christie number?
Yeah, Hillary won: acting moderately gracious (even if it’s just acting) doesn’t have much of a downside (it rarely does for winners) in the intra-party sense. It won’t make the Busters happy - but nothing will, so why not humor the non-moonbat wing a bit?

Clinton can afford to be gracious. Two months after she elected nobody’s gonna know Bernie Saunders from New Coke.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:08:09pm
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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:08:09pm

re: #235 stpaulbear

Clinton can afford to be gracious. Two months after she elected nobody’s gonna know Bernie Saunders from New Coke.

See you could have just left the first line “Clinton can afford to be gracious” which is absolutely true.

The second was an unnecessary knife twist, just as I noted above.

I’m big enough to take such statements as “sore winner” arguments and ignore them for the larger problem of the GOP. A lot of people won’t, and those are the ones you don’t want to drive away.

And you spelled Sanders name wrong.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:09:18pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

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Life as an episode of the Twilight Zone.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:09:21pm

re: #225 Testy Toad T

To be honest, I am terrified of the nativist trade/economy creature that Trump and Sanders have helped to unearth. It’s awfully hard to articulate in a brief sound bite why the industrial economy of the postwar era is never, ever coming back, and there are still a whole bunch lot of folks who fondly remember those days.

I absolutely think a charismatic, well-spoken “compassionate conservative” could peel off basically the entire midwest if he or she (lol: he) were able to massage the message into a form the Kochs would sign off on.

I agree that this would be very dangerous. The simple fact is that the present-day global economy is not working well for most members of society, and there is no apparent political action taking place to improve things. Nobody is proposing real solutions, which creates opportunities for demagogues to exploit the impossible dream of going back to how things were in the good old days.

This has been destabilizing politics, both in the US and in Europe. IMO, this is the common thread linking Brexit, Trumpism and Sanders.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:09:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:10:56pm

re: #229 Anymouse

There is no shame in being magnanimous in victory. There is a long history of people being punished for being uncaring or sore winners. All that is required from Mrs. Clinton now is to treat Sanders and his supporters respectfully, but focus on the main goal of defeating the Velveeta Raccoon. Like the PUMAs in 2008, the majority will come round.

We’ve been magnanimous in victory, and most of Sanders supporters have come over. What’s frankly contemptible at this point is Sanders refusals to concede the race is in fact over and to congratulate Clinton on her unambiguous and historic win. Those fanatical followers he has left that are taking their cues from him, or who harbor so much hatred towards Hillary that they’ll never vote for her need to be fed a steady diet of harsh truths.

Wherever we were before she’s absolutely without question going to be the nominee now, and anybody tearing her down or spreading false equivalences and nihilistic disaffection is playing right into the hands of the most racist demagogue to infect US national politics since George Wallace.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:11:03pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

Can’t wait to hear Donald Trump’s opinion on that, or his son-in-law.

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:13:37pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

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Well, at least it’s not a MUSLIM pool. /////

RBS

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:13:47pm

re: #239 EPR-radar

I agree that this would be very dangerous. The simple fact is that the present-day global economy is not working well for most members of society, and there is no apparent political action taking place to improve things. Nobody is proposing real solutions, which creates opportunities for demagogues to exploit the impossible dream of going back to how things were in the good old days.

This has been destabilizing politics, both in the US and in Europe. IMO, this is the common thread linking Brexit, Trumpism and Sanders.

I agree with everything but the bold. I actually think it’s a pretty non-controversial, fact-based statement to say that the present-day global economy is probably better than any economic system for everyone ever. It’s not great, but any student of history will tell you that history is basically pretty terrible.

Thing is, most of the improvements (or the this-is-at-least-somewhat-less-shitty-ments) are helping the icky brown and yellow people, and most of the losses are being seen here at home by uneducated white people who are used to being some of the “haves”. It’s easy to keep the downtrodden under foot, but people who have had a taste of the good life and feel like it’s been snatched away can be much more dangerous.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:14:25pm

re: #227 Brian J.

You’d like to think that, but there’s Salon and the Huffington Post, Counterpunch, the Intercept, US Uncut, and plenty of others, pumping out the hard-left propaganda. There are the remains of Occupy Wall Street and the Shaun King-types of BLM and other groups. I really didn’t know about many of them until this year, but they’re the people who will drive the Democrats mad if the Democrats let them.

Wake me up when there’s a far-left loon that can get elected Democrats to grovel and apologize the way Rush Limbaugh can and did.

The hard-right fringe of the GOP owns that party. The hard-left fringe of the Democratic party is lucky to get a few scraps thrown its way at platform writing time. And something like a $15 minimum wage can hardly be viewed as hard-left anyway.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:14:25pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

We’ve been magnanimous in victory, and most of Sanders supporters have come over. What’s frankly contemptible at this point is Sanders refusals to concede the race is in fact over and to congratulate Clinton on her unambiguous and historic win. Those fanatical followers he has left that are taking their cues from him, or who harbor so much hatred towards Hillary that they’ll never vote for her need to be fed a steady diet of harsh truths.

You mean like this from above?

re: #235 stpaulbear

Clinton can afford to be gracious. Two months after she elected nobody’s gonna know Bernie Saunders from New Coke.

Very magnanimous. Could just ignore Sanders and go for the takedown on Donald Trump. Had to stick the knife twist in the second sentence.

As I said, I see the prize here, so I am willing to ignore the “sore loser” and “sore winner” statements I see, but they will drive others from the polls. Polls we want every voter at.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:14:56pm

re: #229 Anymouse

There is no shame in being magnanimous in victory. There is a long history of people being punished for being uncaring or sore winners. All that is required from Mrs. Clinton now is to treat Sanders and his supporters respectfully, but focus on the main goal of defeating the Velveeta Raccoon. Like the PUMAs in 2008, the majority will come round.

I follow politics all over the world as well as here in the US, and there’s been one common thread that has gained strength over the last few years: Magnanimity is a fool’s game. Give a fringe candidate an inch and he’ll take a mile, then make it impossible for your party ever to get rid of him.

Frank is absolutely right, and his twitter exchange posted above could be repeated literally a millionfold. Allowing Sanders to run has allowed the “alt-left” and proto-Trumpers into the party, and they’ll be hard, hard to get rid of. This is why the UK’s Labour Party, for instance, hasn’t won an election in my lifetime except those led by Tony Blair… and his brand of centrist liberalism is tainted for a very long time to come. Do you want that to happen to Democrats? And don’t say that minorities will protect the Democrats automatically, because they don’t for Labour or most other European left parties or even (until 2015) Canada’s Liberals.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:15:25pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Erik Wemple: Don’t Settle, Gretchen Carlson!:

Here, the Erik Wemple Blog would like to disclose a conflict of interest in this matter: We want this case to go the distance, the better to feast on all the motions and materials that a full-scale discovery could well produce. Civil actions have an extraordinary knack for producing newsworthy material. Just consider the Trump University case, which recently unearthed critical documents on how the outfit sold its wares to the public. Or the suit filed by a University of Virginia associate dean against Rolling Stone, which has unveiled emails cataloging the breakdown of the magazine’s reporting on an alleged gang-rape at a U-Va. fraternity house.

Sunshine of that sort would be welcome in the hallways of Fox News. Like its cousins in the world of TV, Fox News is gung-ho about holding public officials accountable. When it comes to others holding them accountable, well, the enthusiasm levels drop a fair bit. We media reporters tend to receive canned statements, not interviews, when the crises hit. Again, this isn’t exclusive to Fox News and applies across the industry.

To boot, Fox News has shown some relish for pursuing leaks. Look at the case of “Fox Mole” Joe Muto, an “O’Reilly Factor” producer who launched a tell-some-things series on Gawker but was busted by Fox News computer sleuths early in his leaking career. Among his mischief was grabbing some unaired Fox News video, which served as the foundation of a criminal case against him. He ended up pleading guilty to charges of misdemeanor attempted theft and computer tampering. That served as a message to any Fox Newsers who might attempt any unauthorized activity in the media.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:16:56pm

Hey guys, the sky is still up there in my part of the world.

Just wanted to be sure we all knew that.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:17:56pm

re: #247 Brian J.

You can ignore the fringe candidate and still be magnanimous (and Sanders was hardly a fringe candidate with millions of votes). Insult his or her supporters enough times and you can never win them over; do it too much you can drive former supporters away.

I am not faulting Hillary Clinton, I am faulting those supporters that are poor winners. They are the ones that will drive voters away from Hillary Clinton (and provide ammunition for GOP supporters), not Mrs. Clinton.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:18:10pm

re: #244 Testy Toad T

I agree with everything but the bold. I actually think it’s a pretty non-controversial, fact-based statement to say that the present-day global economy is probably better than any economic system for everyone ever. It’s not great, but any student of history will tell you that history is basically pretty terrible.

Thing is, most of the improvements (or the this-is-at-least-somewhat-less-shitty-ments) are helping the icky brown and yellow people, and most of the losses are being seen here at home by uneducated white people who are used to being being some of the “haves”. It’s easy to keep the downtrodden under foot, but people who have had a taste of the good life and feel like it’s been snatched away can be much more dangerous.

And you can look at the big economies in Europe and see that you don’t have to screw over the poor.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:18:27pm

re: #249 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hey guys, the sky is still up there in my part of the world.

Just wanted to be sure we all knew that.

From the ridiculous to the sublime, as the saying goes.

Apropos of nothing, Project Car is continuing to make progress. I fought with it for about 45 minutes earlier this evening, and finally got my new distributor dropped all the way in and the ignition timing set. Now I just need to get the melted and burned wiring harness repaired, and I can put her all back together and see if she starts.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:18:49pm

re: #247 Brian J.

I follow politics all over the world as well as here in the US, and there’s been one common thread that has gained strength over the last few years: Magnanimity is a fool’s game. Give a fringe candidate an inch and he’ll take a mile, then make it impossible for your party ever to get rid of him.

I categorically reject your apparent heartfelt desire to turn the Democratic Party into a left-wing mirror of the GOP, where we play purity games and attempt to kneecap our putative allies.

This is nearly as unattractive as Bernouts playing the no-true-progressive game. I won’t lift a finger to help Sanders right now, and I’ll probably contribute to his hopeful Democratic challenger when he next stands for re-election, but if Sanders wants to play games arguing actual points of progressive policy rather than dicking around with open primaries or similar bullshit, I won’t deny him that opportunity.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:19:18pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:19:53pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:20:05pm

re: #244 Testy Toad T

I agree with everything but the bold. I actually think it’s a pretty non-controversial, fact-based statement to say that the present-day global economy is probably better than any economic system for everyone ever. It’s not great, but any student of history will tell you that history is basically pretty terrible.

Thing is, most of the improvements (or the this-is-at-least-somewhat-less-shitty-ments) are helping the icky brown and yellow people, and most of the losses are being seen here at home by uneducated white people who are used to being being some of the “haves”. It’s easy to keep the downtrodden under foot, but people who have had a taste of the good life and feel like it’s been snatched away can be much more dangerous.

At least in the US, what is most dangerous is the reduced prospects of the middle class relative to the era from about 1945 to 1980. Rising income inequality since 1980 is a real effect.

Since much of this affected middle class is white, racism inevitably comes into the picture, but there are factors in play in addition to that racism.

I’ll be the first to admit that the US from 1945 to 1980 can’t reasonably be repeated (only developed nation not absolutely flattened by a world war), but the political instability inherent in asking a middle class to accept being less well off than their parents remains a factor that can’t be wished away.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:20:53pm

re: #109 Frankie Five Angels

Make it larger. Make it yuuuuge!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:00pm

re: #232 Snarknado!

BWS, didn’t that cat also break your arm?

yes, dammit, she did.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:08pm

re: #247 Brian J.

Tainted leftist centrism? Try that Brits wound up thinking he was Bush’s lap dog, his poodle (their sentiments). Republicanism tainted Blair not “leftist centrism”.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:09pm

re: #256 EPR-radar

I’ll be the first to admit that the US from 1945 to 1980 can’t reasonably be repeated (only developed nation not absolutely flattened by a world war), but the political instability inherent in asking a middle class to accept being less well off than their parents remains a factor that can’t be wished away.

Agreed wholeheartedly, and do not mistake my statements as acceptance or endorsement of the shitbag scrap-licking post-Reagan economy I have professionally grown up in, but globalization and international trade are, at most, tertiary causes of its worst attributes.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:11pm

The sound of one hand clapping?

Snowden and Greenwald and their ilk are in full foam mode, now in bed with the rabid likes of Daily Caller.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:26pm

Gonna lie down for a nap; back later. Getting lots of rest for the beginning of a very long drive to Canada in the morning, where I will safely watch the GOP convention from the shores of Hudson Bay.

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:58pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

I’ll be concerned about the sandbaggers when it is clear there are a large number of them. If Hillary Clinton is a reasonably gracious winner, this shouldn’t be a problem.

See also the PUMAs in 2008, who ended up making a lot of noise on the internet while not mattering in the end.

I think the Sandbaggers are more like the C4P (Conservatives for Palin) crowd and they will never give up their fantasy about the incorruptible, near-godlike vision of Bernie. (Sleuth and StanleySea, help me out here!)

Like the c4pers, they’ll eat rice and beans to donate their last dime to Bernie, and like the c4pers, they are CERTAIN that Bernie is going to prevail and all will be right with the world.

The PUMAs were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to have the near religious fervor about how the world was going to come to an immediate end if they didn’t get their way.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:23:31pm

re: #237 Anymouse

See you could have just left the first line “Clinton can afford to be gracious” which is absolutely true.

The second was an unnecessary knife twist, just as I noted above.

I’m big enough to take such statements as “sore winner” arguments and ignore them for the larger problem of the GOP. A lot of people won’t, and those are the ones you don’t want to drive away.

And you spelled Sanders name wrong.

Sorry I spelled it wrong, but Bernie’s not going to be worth a nickel in the senate after this election is over. I mean, he got frickin’ BOOed when he visited the house dems today. He’s cemented his reputation as someone that doesn’t want to work to make change that can be put into effect and, if he doesn’t come out fighting for Hillary in the next week or so, his career is baked.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:24:00pm

re: #259 MsJ

Tainted leftist centrism? Try that Brits wound up thinking he was Bush’s lap dog, his poodle (their sentiments). Republicanism tainted Blair not “leftist centrism”.

True, but that Blair was a “centrist liberal” means that no Labour leader can be one again because none can afford to resemble Blair in any way; it’s guilt by association. Hence, the soft-left Ed Miliband and now the hard-left Bernie Corbyn, I mean Jeremy Sanders.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:24:16pm

re: #263 BeachDem

I think the Sandbaggers are more like the C4P (Conservatives for Palin) crowd and they will never give up their fantasy about the incorruptible, near-godlike vision of Bernie. (Sleuth and StanleySea, help me out here!)

Like the c4pers, they’ll eat rice and beans to donate their last dime to Bernie, and like the c4pers, they are CERTAIN that Bernie is going to prevail and all will be right with the world.

The PUMAs were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to have the near religious fervor about how the world was going to come to an immediate end if they didn’t get their way.

Probably because the PUMAs couldn’t point to any real policy difference between Clinton and Obama in 2008. So they were a pure case of sour grapes.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:24:23pm

Something here is causing Shockwave to have a serious memory leak

I’ve had to shutdown Shockwave 5 times. Each time Chrome was using more than 3GB

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:24:54pm

re: #227 Brian J.

You’d like to think that, but there’s Salon and the Huffington Post, Counterpunch, the Intercept, US Uncut, and plenty of others, pumping out the hard-left propaganda. There are the remains of Occupy Wall Street and the Shaun King-types of BLM and other groups. I really didn’t know about many of them until this year, but they’re the people who will drive the Democrats mad if the Democrats let them.

Don’t forget commondreams and TYT—they seem to be the go-to quoting sources for BoBs.

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dangerman  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:25:15pm

it’s easier and faster to register (say) five new voters than to convert one who’s politically unrealistic.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:25:35pm

re: #264 stpaulbear

Sorry I spelled it wrong, but Bernie’s not going to be worth a nickel in the senate after this election is over. I mean, he got frickin’ BOOed when he visited the house dems today. He’s cemented his reputation as someone that doesn’t want to work to make change that can be put into effect and, if he doesn’t come out fighting for Hillary in the next week or so, his career is baked.

He’s popularized that reputation.

The endorsement cycle made it rather clear that he already enjoyed that well-cemented reputation in the hallowed halls of Congress.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:25:50pm

re: #267 Double Dumbass

Something here is causing Shockwave to have a serious memory leak

I’ve had to shutdown Shockwave 5 times. Each time Chrome was using more than 3GB

Chrome is up to 1.7GB already.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:25:52pm

re: #246 Anymouse

You mean like this from above?

Very magnanimous. Could just ignore Sanders and go for the takedown on Donald Trump. Had to stick the knife twist in the second sentence.

As I said, I see the prize here, so I am willing to ignore the “sore loser” and “sore winner” statements I see, but they will drive others from the polls. Polls we want every voter at.

I’ve said a hell of a lot worse. Sanders behavior both during and after the primaries has been absolutely horrendous. Sorry, that’s just how I see it. Flat out lying in order to call Hillary unqualified, feeding Trump that ammunition and refusing to concede are all unforgivable sins in my book. I welcome anybody who is on board now with defeating Trump no matter what, but I’m not about to start praising Bernie as long as he continues to act in the most egregiously dangerous and despicable manner I’ve ever witnessed from a Democratic candidate for President.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:26:34pm

re: #261 freetoken

The sound of one hand clapping?

Snowden and Greenwald and their ilk are in full foam mode, now in bed with the rabid likes of Daily Caller.

Greenwald may have more immediate concerns if the favelas erupt during the Olympics. Gated communities in Brazil have Maginot Line level security but, as we saw, even that is not invincible, and it might be especially so in a country where the cops have not been paid.

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:26:41pm

re: #262 Anymouse

Safe journey. :)

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:27:57pm

re: #264 stpaulbear

Sorry I spelled it wrong, but Bernie’s not going to be worth a nickel in the senate after this election is over. I mean, he got frickin’ BOOed when he visited the house dems today. He’s cemented his reputation as someone that doesn’t want to work to make change that can be put into effect and, if he doesn’t come out fighting for Hillary in the next week or so, his career is baked.

Deservedly so.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:27:57pm

re: #264 stpaulbear

Sorry I spelled it wrong, but Bernie’s not going to be worth a nickel in the senate after this election is over. I mean, he got frickin’ BOOed when he visited the house dems today. He’s cemented his reputation as someone that doesn’t want to work to make change that can be put into effect and, if he doesn’t come out fighting for Hillary in the next week or so, his career is baked.

Taken out of context … and more magnanimous behaviour.

Sanders eventually responded that the goal was not to win elections. He paused at this juncture, at which point came the boos. “The goal is to transform America,” he said. The Sanders aide said that members in the room applauded at that point.

I didn’t see what happened, though I read there were some boos. Fits right in with the yell from Republicans at President Obama “You Lie.”

huffingtonpost.com

Now I really must get to that nap. Catch y’all later.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:28:12pm

re: #262 Anymouse

Gonna lie down for a nap; back later. Getting lots of rest for the beginning of a very long drive to Canada in the morning, where I will safely watch the GOP convention from the shores of Hudson Bay.

Damn. I wish I knew about my cylinder heads a few weeks ago. I could have tried to convince you to bring a new set up from the US.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:28:50pm

re: #271 Double Dumbass

Chrome is up to 1.7GB already.

My Chrome often gets to 2GB+ within minutes. Fortunately, that’s not usually a serious problem; just use Task Manager to kill Flash. Works about 85% of the time, unless I’m on my mobile phone.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:28:59pm

re: #260 Testy Toad T

Agreed wholeheartedly, and do not mistake my statements as acceptance or endorsement of the shitbag scrap-licking post-Reagan economy I have professionally grown up in, but globalization and international trade are, at most, tertiary causes of its worst attributes.

I see the main root cause of the economic woes as being a greedy oligarchy, and globalization and international trade as being the most preferred tools of the oligarchy to remove the ability of national governments to check their worst excesses.

So globalization and international trade aren’t the primary cause of the troubles, but they are very visible (e.g., job outsourcing etc.), making them natural targets for resentment.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:29:10pm

Meanwhile, in Euroland, Deutsche Bank’s stock and CoCo’s are having a dead cat bounce.

Combined with the full-fledged Italian banking crises, we may see the making of the Eurozone going into a recession tout suite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:29:30pm
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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:29:53pm

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

I’ve said a hell of a lot worse. Sanders behavior both during and after the primaries has been absolutely horrendous. Sorry, that’s just how I see it. Flat out lying in order to call Hillary unqualified, feeding Trump that ammunition and refusing to concede are all unforgivable sins in my book. I welcome anybody who is on board now with defeating Trump no matter what, but I’m not about to start praising Bernie as long as he continues to act in the most egregiously dangerous and despicable manner I’ve ever witnessed from a Democratic candidate for President.

Clinton said Sanders could run his campaign any way he likes. Too bad there are so many Clinton supporters willing to stick a knife in to score “see I told you so” points.

Save that for the GOP.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:30:42pm

re: #263 BeachDem

Haven’t thought of the sea of pee in a long time.

Apt comparision.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:30:52pm

re: #277 Double Dumbass

Damn. I wish I knew about my cylinder heads a few weeks ago. I could have tried to convince you to bring a new set up from the US.

Wait, what happened?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:30:56pm

STUPIDEST DEFENSE OF THE INDEFENSIBLE TRUMP TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY==>

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:31:41pm

About T-5 minutes to launch

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:31:45pm

re: #267 Double Dumbass

Something here is causing Shockwave to have a serious memory leak

I’ve had to shutdown Shockwave 5 times. Each time Chrome was using more than 3GB

the MOSQUITO video of the crazy man

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:33:10pm

I admit it’s become a lot easier to be magnanimous towards Senator Sanders over the last week or two as it’s become apparent that his eventual endorsement may border on the irrelevant/redundant.

It’s almost started to bend back around from frustrating and become funny. If Hillary Clinton can laugh off a grumpy old man fundamentally, congenitally unable to concede defeat to a triumphant woman, by God, so can I.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:34:15pm

re: #278 Brian J.

My Chrome often gets to 2GB+ within minutes. Fortunately, that’s not usually a serious problem; just use Task Manager to kill Flash. Works about 85% of the time, unless I’m on my mobile phone.

I have Task Manager running right now & I’ve had to shut down flash/shockwave/chrome instance 5 times in the last couple of hours.

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Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:34:29pm
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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:34:35pm

re: #282 Anymouse

Clinton said Sanders could run his campaign any way he likes. Too bad there are so many Clinton supporters willing to stick a knife in to score “see I told you so” points.

Save that for the GOP.

Sure. As soon as Bernie gives up the ghost. He’s actively damaging democrats.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:34:38pm

re: #278 Brian J.

My Chrome often gets to 2GB+ within minutes. Fortunately, that’s not usually a serious problem; just use Task Manager to kill Flash. Works about 85% of the time, unless I’m on my mobile phone.

I can’t use FireFox either.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:28pm

re: #291 MsJ

Sure. As soon as Bernie gives up the ghost. He’s actively damaging democrats.

He absolutely is, but I think attacking him over same probably damages the party even worse.

There’s nothing to do other than wait for him to turn himself in on his own recognizance.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:29pm

re: #288 Testy Toad T

I admit it’s become a lot easier to be magnanimous towards Senator Sanders over the last week or two as it’s become apparent that his eventual endorsement may border on the irrelevant/redundant.

It’s almost started to bend back around from frustrating and become funny. If Hillary Clinton can laugh off a grumpy old man fundamentally, congenitally unable to concede defeat to a triumphant woman, by God, so can I.

That’s the line my thinking has been following as well. After all, Sanders is not as important as his voters, and his voters need to be given a reasonably easy path to changing their minds.

Anyone who doesn’t want to take that reasonably easy path can FOAD along with all the other Trump supporters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:51pm

I just can’t even

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:37:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:37:29pm

re: #282 Anymouse

Clinton said Sanders could run his campaign any way he likes.

What the hell else could she say? She isn’t about to praise the way he’s handling himself and can only quietly remind everyone that this is all his decision. The subtext of that statement makes it clear that whether he lands his plane or crashes it into the ground it’s all on him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:37:33pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:37:59pm

re: #292 Double Dumbass

I can’t use FireFox either.

I only use FireFox for LGF, and I disabled Flash player in FF

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:39:04pm

I’d never watched a live Soyuz launch in magic streaming high-def before today. Ukraine shit notwithstanding, it’s crazy the world we live in.

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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:39:45pm

re: #282 Anymouse

Comparing to New Coke = Sticking a knife in the back.

Give it up.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:39:54pm

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Republicans always get very literal when they engage in this kind of denial. The 6-pointed star by itself is not the problem. The problem was 6-pointed star + accusation of corruption + image of money (+, for the final blow, being sourced from a neo-Nazi).

It’s like how they claim the only way to be racist against blacks is to say n_____ all day long.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:41:41pm
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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:41:57pm

re: #293 Testy Toad T

He absolutely is, but I think attacking him over same probably damages the party even worse.

There’s nothing to do other than wait for him to turn himself in on his own recognizance.

I don’t want to attack him. I don’t think Hillary is appeasing or conceding ground. I just want him gone. I’ll never say another word about him again. Support dems and there’s no reason for any disharmony.

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Maddies Mom  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:42:33pm

re: #263 BeachDem

I think the Sandbaggers are more like the C4P (Conservatives for Palin) crowd and they will never give up their fantasy about the incorruptible, near-godlike vision of Bernie. (Sleuth and StanleySea, help me out here!)

Like the c4pers, they’ll eat rice and beans to donate their last dime to Bernie, and like the c4pers, they are CERTAIN that Bernie is going to prevail and all will be right with the world.

The PUMAs were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to have the near religious fervor about how the world was going to come to an immediate end if they didn’t get their way.

You’re exactly right Beach Dem, C4p’ers they are!!!!

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:42:35pm

re: #286 FormerDirtDart

Very cool, I clicked in just in time to see the liftoff - big rockets are great to watch. And in real-time. Godspeed.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:43:43pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

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Honestly, why hasn’t Twitter deleted his account? It’s violated the ToS in every possible way, and there’ve been, oh, a few million witnesses. But like most tech companies today, they won’t offend the all-important dipshit demographic.

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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:43:59pm

If that “Frozen” image had the star on top of a pile of money AND had been proven to originate with a known anti-semite on a message board known for bigots, it would be a problem.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:44:32pm

Yay, I held it together for 7.5 hours before crying again. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:44:38pm

re: #302 EPR-radar

Republicans always get very literal when they engage in this kind of denial. The 6-pointed star by itself is not the problem. The problem was 6-pointed star + accusation of corruption + image of money (+, for the final blow, being sourced from a neo-Nazi).

It like how they claim the only way to be racist against blacks is to say n_____ all day long.

You can say the N-word all day long and not be racist because you are not Robert Byrd.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:45:34pm

re: #309 Belafon

{{{{{{{{{{ hugs }}}}}}}}}}}}

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KGxvi  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:45:58pm

re: #157 Testy Toad T

Free to good home: presidential system, rarely strained

Can we have a prime minister elected by his/her fellow MPs? Please?

Look at who has been elected Speaker of the House in the last 30 years. Those would have been your PMs

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:46:04pm

re: #309 Belafon

Yay, I held it together for 7.5 hours before crying again. :)

{{{Belafon}}}

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:46:26pm

Elijah Cummings, ready once again, to kick some Republican ass:

“Republican after Republican praised Director Comey’s impeccable record of independence—right up until the moment he issued his conclusion. Since Republicans disagree with his recommendation, they are doing what they always do—using taxpayer funds to continue ‘investigating’ their baseless claims in an effort to bring down Secretary Clinton’s poll numbers. The only emergency here is that yet another Republican conspiracy theory is slipping away.”

democrats.oversight.house.gov

Or, as Mark Lippman describes it:

As Ranking Member of the Bengowdy Committee, Elijah Cummings set a standard for the rest of the House Democrats to follow. He blew the lid off the proceedings there with a series of must-read bulletins on the Republican plot to stop Hillary.

Cummings is the Ranking Member of the House Oversight Committee, too, and when he has something to say, never, ever, cut his mic. He has a big booming voice. Okay, Darrell Issa?

dailykos.com

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:09pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:20pm

re: #300 Testy Toad T

re: #306 Jay C

It is a little disappointing that the Russian space program can’t be bothered to add a few external cameras for us space junkies to watch.

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:24pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

You can say the N-word all day long and not be racist because you are not Robert Byrd.

I’m starting to wonder if the highlight of Trump’s circus act at the GOP national convention will be to call President Obama every racist epithet ever coined except the N-word.

We all know the crowd there would go wild with approval.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:32pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST DEFENSE OF THE INDEFENSIBLE TRUMP TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY==>

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I was wrong. The “Frozen” meme is stupider.

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:48:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:48:50pm

BWAHAHAA

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:49:23pm

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

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Dude. Whatever staffer runs her Twitter account is hilarious. Get that guy/girl a comedian gig after Hillary’s administration has come to an end.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:49:33pm

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

My hat is off to her Twitter manager, 100%. They are ON POINT.

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:49:35pm

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

Oh my hahahhahahaha.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:49:53pm

re: #317 FormerDirtDart

It is a little disappointing that the Russian space program can’t be bothered to add a few external cameras for us space junkies to watch.

Crazy Ivan space program too poor for streaming video. Broke from fighting Ukrane, low energy launch campaign. Sad!

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KGxvi  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:50:15pm

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

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Said it before but if the social media person charged with running her Twitter account isn’t on the short list for press secretary then this isn’t a country I want to live in

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:50:19pm

re: #293 Testy Toad T

He absolutely is, but I think attacking him over same probably damages the party even worse.

There’s nothing to do other than wait for him to turn himself in on his own recognizance.

This.
Plus, another factor is the upcoming Convention. The RNC in Cleveland is likely to be a once-in-a-lifetime shitshow, and (not just wishful-thinking here) has the potential to be a Chicago-1968-level PR disaster for the GOP; I think it will behoove the Democrats to make sure that their get-together in Philly has the best optics for Party unity and sane politics they can manage (well, inside the hall, anyway). If it means making nice with the Berniebots until then, so be it: whatever dumpster fire the Repubs make of their own convention, our national media will probably be going out their way to make sure that ANY disturbance (political, protest, inside, outside) is covered like cheap shrinkwrap - the Party doesn’t need to emphasize any internal problems.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:50:20pm

Hillary’s got a team of epic level social media ninjas working her twitter account.

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Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:50:31pm

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:51:31pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:51:50pm

Hahaha, now we get to see how many times people love it enough to post it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:53:34pm
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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:53:38pm

re: #331 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hahaha, now we get to see how many times people love it enough to post it.

Wonder if we can determine the aggregate number of updings that tweet gets.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:53:45pm
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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:53:49pm

re: #311 MsJ

{{{{{{{{{{ hugs }}}}}}}}}}}}

re: #313 thedopefishlives

{{{Belafon}}}

Thanks. I’m a little better than I was 24 hours ago, and I had been thinking about the fun we had, and then it just fell apart and went sad. That’s OK.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:53:55pm

re: #331 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hahaha, now we get to see how many times people love it enough to post it.

Wearing out my upding finger over here.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:55:11pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

I’m starting to wonder if the highlight of Trump’s circus act at the GOP national convention will be to call President Obama every racist epithet ever coined except the N-word.

We all know the crowd there would go wild with approval.

I think the highlight will be Trump’s complete meltdown if the convention floor delegate revolt happens and he suddenly finds himself on the outside looking in. Unfortunately, the aftermath with his most ardent fans (ie the alt-right crowd) will likely involve armed confrontations when they try to stage their own version of the Beer Hall Putsch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:55:16pm

LOL!

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Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:56:57pm
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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:57:28pm

Clinton is in nearly the same position that Obama was in 2008. She can take her serious jabs at Trump, but she can also poke fun at him as well. It’s a confident campaign, which she didn’t really have back then.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:57:34pm

re: #327 Jay C

This.
Plus, another factor is the upcoming Convention. The RNC in Cleveland is likely to be a once-in-a-lifetime shitshow, and (not just wishful-thinking here) has the potential to be a Chicago-1968-level PR disaster for the GOP; I think it will behoove the Democrats to make sure that their get-together in Philly has the best optics for Party unity and sane politics they can manage (well, inside the hall, anyway). If it means making nice with the Berniebots until then, so be it: whatever dumpster fire the Repubs make of their own convention, our national media will probably be going out their way to make sure that ANY disturbance (political, protest, inside, outside) is covered like cheap shrinkwrap - the Party doesn’t need to emphasize any internal problems.

Worth repeating!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:58:48pm
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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:58:58pm

re: #340 Belafon

Clinton is in nearly the same position that Obama was in 2008. She can take her serious jabs at Trump, but she can also poke fun at him as well. It’s a confident campaign, which she didn’t really have back then.

It cannot be overstated how much better a candidate she is in 2016 than she was in 2008. Downright amazing.

I don’t want to mansplain anything, but she sure seemed to learn a lot from Obama’s campaign and his general message of positivity and progress.

God, our party used to be terrible.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:00:34pm

re: #339 Lidane

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There’s a night and day difference between Hillary’s and Drumpf’s social media presence. These tweets say it all.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:01:22pm

re: #339 Lidane

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Par for the course. Trump lifts everything. Can’t come up with an original thought or sentence or act. He’s playing Benito circa 1928 right now FORTISSIMO!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:01:54pm

Erick son of Erick is making sense. What is happening to this world?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:02:16pm

One of the things I like about Hillary is she understands the twitter medium and her own limitations enough to delegate that shit out to some razor sharp talent. Trump is such an egotistical, control freaky old shit-witted hobgoblin that he refuses to let go of control over his account, and the keeps getting himself in trouble by using it to rebroadcast the praise and racist memes that pour in from his white supremacist fans.

One campaign clearly knows that if they’re not being some variety of funny, insightful, informative, or inspiring all the damned time it’s far better to just shut the fuck up. The other campaign doesn’t get this at all because their candidate is utterly incapable of just letting shit go and not responding when provoked.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:02:22pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Erick son of Erick is making sense. What is happening to this world?

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Stopped clock, twice a day, etc., etc.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:03:00pm

re: #335 Belafon

It’s OK, and it will keep happening, and if you are anything like me, it will occasionally happen for a pet that departed many years ago. After a while, though, those thoughts are just happy memories. I hope you get to that point soon, but in the meantime I hope you won’t be shy about venting/sharing etc. Lots of pet lovers here to offer sympathy and empathy.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:03:28pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

One of the things I like about Hillary is she understands the twitter medium and her own limitations enough to delegate that shit out to some razor sharp talent. Trump is such an egotistical, control freaky old shit-witted hobgoblin that he refuses to let go of control over that shit, and the keeps getting himself in trouble by using it to rebroadcast the praise and racist memes that pour in from his white supremacist fans.

It’s almost like the most critical part of being a leader is figuring out who to hire for menial tasks beneath your station!

Nahhhhh.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:03:39pm

re: #335 Belafon

Thanks. I’m a little better than I was 24 hours ago, and I had been thinking about the fun we had, and then it just fell apart and went sad. That’s OK.

Don’t be sad. Caramel will live with you forever. In your heart. In your mind. Always.

And when you get your next baby, he or she will live alongside of your other baby. And those that may have come before. Also forever.

You gave your baby a good life. There’s a canine out there who’s looking for a home, maybe even in danger of never getting a chance to find one. Your big heart will give some wonderful critter a furever home.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:04:01pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:04:35pm

Oh great. Asshole guy on my block has realized that he’s not out of loud fireworks yet.

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Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:03pm
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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:11pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

EFF Eric. He’s just upset his side is led by Trump. I really don’t know why he’s upset. Maybe Trump never heard of him? Left him off a celebrity invite? Never said…”Hello”…? Nah. Eric is a suckcopath. Me. Me. What about…ME.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:22pm

re: #351 MsJ

Don’t be sad. Caramel will live with you forever. In your heart. In your mind. Always.

And when you get your next baby, he or she will live alongside of your other baby. And those that may have come before. Also forever.

You gave your baby a good life. There’s a canine out there who’s looking for a home, maybe even in danger of never getting a chance to find one. Your big heart will give some wonderful critter a furever home.

BTW, how’s your new pup doing? photos to brighten us all up!

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EPR-radar  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:06:14pm

re: #350 Testy Toad T

It’s almost like the most critical part of being a leader is figuring out who to hire for menial tasks beneath your station!

Nahhhhh.

Well, Trump has never in his life needed to be any kind of a leader. He has always been that rich asshole that other people needed to find a way to deal with.

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Cheechako  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:06:22pm

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thedopefishlives  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:07:47pm

re: #358 Cheechako

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:07:57pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:08:33pm
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majii  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:11:32pm

re: #355 nines09

“EFF Eric. He’s just upset his side is led by Trump.”

I agree 100%. Erickson seems to have conveniently forgotten his role in transforming the GOP into what it is today. His fingerprints are all over this.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:11:35pm

It’s actually very very SAD

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Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:11:46pm

What the actual fuck?

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:14:47pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

One of the things I like about Hillary is she understands the twitter medium and her own limitations enough to delegate that shit out to some razor sharp talent. Trump is such an egotistical, control freaky old shit-witted hobgoblin that he refuses to let go of control over that shit, and the keeps getting himself in trouble by using it to rebroadcast the praise and racist memes that pour in from his white supremacist fans.

One campaign clearly knows that if they’re not being some variety of funny, insightful, informative, or inspiring all the damned time it’s far better to just shut the fuck up. The other campaign doesn’t get this at all because their candidate is utterly incapable of just letting shit go and not responding when provoked.

Hillary’s Digital Team:

DIGITAL

Senior Advisor for Digital Strategy Teddy Goff
(reported by The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker on March 24, 2015) Partner at Precision Strategies. Digital director on Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign, May 2011-Nov. 2012. Associate vice president for strategy at Blue State Digital, Jan. 2009-April 2011. Oversaw creation and launch of whitehouse.gov for the Obama-Biden presidential transition, Dec. 2008-Jan. 2009. Part of the new media team on Obama’s 2008 campaign-in the fall director of new media for battleground states (Great Lakes and Ohio Valley); during the primaries Goff served on the campaign’s mass email team. B.A. in English and political science from Yale University, 2007. twitter

Senior Advisor for Digital Katie Dowd
(from about April 2016; previously digital director; reported by The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker on March 24, 2015) Director of digital strategy in the Office of Hillary Clinton at the Clinton Foundation from Jan. 2014. Innovation advisor at the U.S. Department of State, Sept. 2010-Jan. 2014; also senior advisor to the U.S. CTO at the White House, March-Nov. 2013. New media director at the U.S. Department of State, May 2009-Sept. 2010. New media director at HillPAC/Friends of Hilary, July 2008-May 2009. Deputy Internet director/deputy director of online fundraising on Clinton’s 2007-08 campaign. Deputy director of marketing at the DCCC in the 2006 cycle. Deputy director of marketing at the DSCC in the 2004 cycle. Programs director at the American Association of Political Consultants, 2002-03. Account assistant at MSHC, 2002. Graduate of Wittenberg University, 2001. twitter
Digital Director Jenna Lowenstein
(initially deputy digital director; reported by The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker on March 24, 2015) Vice president of digital at EMILY’s List. Deputy digital director at the DNC, Dec. 2013-June 2014. Coordinated campaign digital director in Virginia, April-Nov. 2013. Campaign innovation (Feb. 2012-April 2013) and senior campaigner at change.org (Jan. 2011-Feb. 2012). New media director on Lee Fisher for Ohio, July-Nov. 2010. Director of communications and online organizing at National Stonewall Democrats, June 2009-July 2010. Online strategy associate at Joe Trippi and Associates, Feb.-June 2009. B.A. in government, English from Georgetown University. twitter
Email Director Amanda Litman
(April 2015) Digital director on Charlie Crist for Governor, March-Nov. 2014. Deputy email director at Organizing for Action, Feb. 2013-March 2014. Outbound writer at Obama for America in Chicago, Sept. 2011-Feb. 2013. B.A. in American studies from Northwestern University, 2012. twitter

Digital Organizing Director Jessica Morales Rocketto
(April 2015) Previously senior new media strategist at the AFL-CIO from July 2012 and self-employed digital trainer and strategist from March 2012. Engagement program manager at Obama for America, May 2011-Feb. 2012. Online activist manager for OFA/DNC, July 2010-May 2011. Copy editor and copywriter at EditMe!, Sept. 2009-March 201. B.A. in political science from Rosemont College, 2007.

Director of Content and Creative Lauren Peterson
(April 2015) Senior advisor and writer for Planned Parenthood Federation of America, March 2013-April 2015. Senior writer at Obama for America, Aug. 2011-Dec. 2012. Acting operations director at the Wisconsin Film Festival, Jan.-Aug. 2011; project manager at the University of Wisconsin Office of Multicultural Arts Initiatives, March 2010-Aug. 2011. B.A. in political science and government from University of Madison-Wisconsin, 2010. twitter
Social Media Director Emily Bengtson
(deputy social media director from Dec. 2015; previously senior social media strategist from May-Dec. 2015) Digital state campaigns manager (Feb.-May 2015) and digital content specialist (May 2013-Feb. 2015) at Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Digital consultant for Vital Voices Global Partnership, March-May 2013. Colorado deputy digital director at Obama for America, June-Nov. 2012. Communications manager for the Hispanic National Bar Association, June 2011-Sept. 2012. B.A. in Romance languages from Dartmouth College, 2010. twitter
Senior Social Media Strategist Diana Fakhouri
(June 2015) Associate social content manager (Oct. 2014-June 2015) and social content specialist (Oct. 2012-Oct. 2014) for Beam Suntory. Marketing lead for Furnishly, June-Oct. 2012; and social media strategist afor The Modern Connection LLC, May-Oct. 2012. Marketing at program manger for Junior Achievement of Central Virginia, April 2011-June 2012. B.A. in English, French from William & Mary, 2009.

Social Media Strategist John Buysse
(June 2015) Global junior brand strategist at Oglivy & Mather Worldwide, Nov. 2014-May 2015. B.S. in advertising from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 2014.
Social Media Strategist Alex Witt
(Nov. 2015) Innovation coordinator for Cerner Corporation, May-Nov. 2015. Digital content manager at the DNC, Sept. 2014-May 2015. MSc in politics and communication from London School of Economics and Political Science, 2014; B.A. in political science and communication from Truman State University, 2013.

Senior Designer Hanah Ho
(Oct. 2015) Graphic designer (Feb. 2012-Oct. 2015) and web and marketing designer (Feb. 2012-Feb. 2013). B.F.A. in communication design from Carnegia Mellon University, 2012.
Senior Designer Meg Vazquez
(May 2015) Freelance illustrator and designer based in Baltimore, MD, from Jan. 2012. Graphic designer for the DNC, March 2014-May 2015. Junior graphic designer at Adfero Group, March 2013-March 2014. B.F.A. in illustration, graphic design from the Maryland Institute College of Art, 2012.
Senior Designer Chelsea Atwell
(Feb. 2016) Art director at GMR Marketing, Aug. 2014-Sept. 2015. Senior art director at BVK, Feb.-Aug. 2014. Art director at Laughlin Constable, Feb. 2011-Feb. 2014. B.F.A. in communications design from the Milwaukee Institute of Art and Design, 2010.
Design Lead Ida Woldemichael
(May 2015) Art director at Infor, July 2014-April 2015. Art director (Jan.-June 2014) and graphic design manager (May 2011-Dec. 2013) at the Clinton Foundation. Interactive designer for Brooks Brothers, Feb.-April 2011. Graphic designer for HZDG, June 2006-Feb. 2011. M.F.A. in graphic design from Maryland Institute College of Art, 2006; B.F.A. in fine art, graphic design from Virginia Tech, 2004.
Design Lead Victor Ng
(July 2015) Lead brand designer for Pinterest, July 2012-July 2015. B.F.A. in communication design, photography from Carnegie Mellon University, 2012.
Graphic Illustrator Yunju Yang
(Jan. 2016) M.F. A. in illustration from Savannah College of Art and Design, 2015; B.F.A. in graphic communications from Ewha Womans University, 2011.
Senior Writer and Creative Strategist Kat Kane
(June 2015) Consultant for the NYC Department of Education, June-Aug. 2014. Senior associate at SKDKnickerbocker, June 2010-Aug. 2013. Writer for NY1 News, Aug. 2009-June 2010. Production associate at CNN, Oct. 2008-Sept. 2009. Anchor producer/executive assistant for MSNBC, Sept. 2007-Oct. 2008. Master’s degree in public policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, 2015. B.A. in journalism/mass communications, sociology from New York University. twitter
Writer - Digital Content and Creative Logan Anderson
(May 2015) Graduate of Louisiana State University, 2015; interned for the Lousiana Democratic Party, Jan.-May 2014.
Director of Digital Operations Jeff Marvin
(July 2015) Customer relations manager (March 2014) and commercial analyst (from March 2013) at Agility. Freight forwarder at Damco, Sept. 2011-March 2013. M.A. in international relations and management from UC San Diego, 2011; B.A. in economics from UC Santa Cruz, 2008.
Director of Merchandising Thomas Phillips
(April 2015) Director of operations at Financial Innovations from Feb. 2012 (directed the logistics for vending official merchandise at the 2012 Democratic National Convention); owner of Universal Human, March 2013-April 2015; and account and project manager at FII Marketing, Feb. 2012-April 2015. Assistant to the director, international trade at the Rhode Island Economic Development Corporation, Aug. 2011-Feb. 2012. Research coordinator at Bryant University’s Chafee Center for International Business, June-Nov. 2011. B.A. in political science from University of Rhode Island, 2009.

Deputy Director of Merchandising Jessica Ybarra
(June 2015) Operations manager for Levis Lot No. 1 (from Oct. 2013) and merchandise coordinator (June 2011-May 2013) for Levi Strauss & Co.; and merchandiser/stylist at Heritage Row in San Francisco, Aug. 2010-May 2013. B.S. in apparel design and merchandising/marketing from San Francisco State University, 2011.

Trump’s Digital Team:

Digital Director Brad Parscale
(announced June 21, 2016) President of Giles-Parscale, based in San Antonio, TX from Sept. 2011; owner of Perscale Media from Sept. 2005. Politico reports he “has worked for years with the Trumps building websites for their real estate enterprises.” B.S. in business finance, international business, economics from Trinity University, 1999. twitter

Director of Social Media Daniel Scavino Jr.
(announced Feb. 11, 2016; started as a senior advisor) “Longtime Trump confidant.” twitter (+)

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:15:49pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

BTW, how’s your new pup doing? photos to brighten us all up!

She’s doing well. She is a character! She’s scary smart and so sweet. When she plays with Sam, the two of them sound like they’re going to kill each other and anyone else in the general vicinity. Then they cuddle up together and nap.

She sucks on a blanket like its a pacifier. It’s the funniest damn thing you could ever see.

I’ve tried to upload a couple of pics (I’m on my phone) and I’m getting an Exceeds 500k message. No pics I guess.

We are talking about rescuing a JRT. We’ll find out in a few days.

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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:18:56pm

re: #358 Cheechako

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Shit happens.

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Cheechako  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:26:53pm

re: #367 Double Dumbass

Shit happens.

And can happen very quickly!!!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:31:00pm

re: #351 MsJ

There’s a canine out there who’s looking for a home, maybe even in danger of never getting a chance to find one.

I agree with everything you said, of course, but this part is why I try to encourage people to not wait to find another buddy.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:46:38pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

(Ruffles through Constitution)

Hmm. President appoints. Senate approves. Nothing about the NRA there.

Once again it is displayed that the GOP, ‘true defenders of the Constitution’, would wipe their asses with it given the opportunity.

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:02:15pm

re: #365 BeachDem

I’m surprised Trump’ s “digital team” isn’t padded out with Ivanka, a Twitter buddy of Ivanka’s, Don Jr., Eric, the chauffeur, and one of the doormen from Trump Tower. Would be on a par with the rest of his hires….


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