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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:47:52pm

theonion.com
Because I think a ogod laugh is always good.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:48:48pm

“Now we know, why should you care what some television star has to say about politics. We agree. But he’s the Republican nominee for President, so we have to talk about him.”

/snark

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:50:22pm

Awww.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:50:23pm
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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:51:15pm

Starting off he thread with Lena Dunham and America Ferrera - OMG, one could do a lot worse!
Not for what they look like, of course, what they’re saying..

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:51:24pm

Wingnut asks “What’s the big deal? Women are just lazy!”

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:51:47pm

Can’t wait for the misogynistic responses to Elizabeth Banks, Lena Dunham, and America Ferrara.

Because you know it’s coming.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:51:55pm

What a great line: Trump isn’t making America great again, he’s making America hate again.

Go America (Ferrera)!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:52:31pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Can’t wait for the misogynistic responses to Elizabeth Banks, Lena Dunham, and America Ferrara.

Because you know it’s coming.

Don’t forget Cecile Richards, you know, the “Babby Parts Eater”

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:53:05pm

BBL

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:53:23pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:55:09pm

Baby Whiplash hasn’t Tweeted for half an hour. I hope he didn’t stroke out.

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:55:16pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Can’t wait for the misogynistic responses to Elizabeth Banks, Lena Dunham, and America Ferrara.

Because you know it’s coming.

Probably something along the lines of “Jew liberal, sex pervert and mongrel alien support Hillary”.
What else would one expect?

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:55:45pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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The amount of slack they’re willing to give that man pisses me off.

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Snarknado!  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:21pm

And yet another Hillary supporter being interviewed about someone who said, “Hillary has yet to earn my vote.” What would you say to that person, the reporter asks.

My answer would be go fuck yourself, but I suppose she has to be more diplomatic. Pity.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:33pm

I really can’t wait until the pro-Trump ads fully devolve into “Doctors HATE him!” / “ONE WEIRD SPICE” territory.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:35pm
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Testy Toad T  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:45pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash hasn’t Tweeted for half an hour. I hope he didn’t stroke out.

I was taught if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.

So.

How’s the weather?

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:51pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:57:11pm

re: #14 JasonA

The amount of slack they’re willing to give that man pisses me off.

If you look at MSNBC’s numbers for last night you see why all the media (print, broadcast and everything in between) has to make this horserace a thing. They had the best numbers they’ve seen in…a while.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:57:20pm

Good grief.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:57:58pm

Haha, Barbara Boxer to Eye of the Tiger.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:58:09pm

re: #22 Jenner7

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Good grief.

Drama queens.

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Snarknado!  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:58:11pm

re: #22 Jenner7

Awww. Isn’t that sweet?

<gagging noises>

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:58:57pm

re: #22 Jenner7

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Good grief.

They look like idiots.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:59:06pm

re: #22 Jenner7

That sign would make a sixth grade teacher weep.

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:59:10pm

Very weird, CNN just ran a cheap pro-Trump commercial (from “Great American PAC”) dumping on Hillary,and begging for $ “before the GOP Convention”:

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:59:12pm

re: #22 Jenner7

Good lord, that poster. I’m sure there are a loooootttt more details being overlooked there.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:00:03pm

re: #28 Jay C

“We Have Always Been Holding the GOP Convention”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:00:09pm

re: #3 JasonA

Awww.

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What a touching scene. I’ve talked about her before but one my grandmothers was eight when women got the right to vote. She was always a proud Democrat. If she had grown up in a different era, I have no doubt she would have been very successful in a career. She was smart, funny, and kind. This one’s for you Nana.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:00:14pm

re: #29 StephenMeansMe

Yeah. That exit polls are bullshit.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:01:22pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

Also, how many other countries select candidates like we do? It seems to me like it’s mostly party-level with very little popular input.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:01:41pm
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Testy Toad T  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:02:28pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah. That exit polls are bullshit.

That if you’re reporting a X% margin for error with a 95% confidence interval, about one in every twenty polls should have a larger than X% error.

This is such a stunningly simple concept. I do not understand how it is so far over so many folks’ heads.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:02:45pm

re: #33 StephenMeansMe

Also, how many other countries select candidates like we do? It seems to me like it’s mostly party-level with very little popular input.

I’ve been thinking about that. I’ve seen a lot of people and I admit I have been there too wish there were more third parties in this country but we choose our leaders in a much more democratic way than those countries do. In fact, in a parliamentary system, Bernie wouldn’t be able to vie for the Democratic leadership’s spot job because he wasn’t a Democrat.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:02:46pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

20 years later and he’s got more “hair”.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:03:14pm

re: #33 StephenMeansMe

Also, how many other countries select candidates like we do? It seems to me like it’s mostly party-level with very little popular input.

Parliamentary systems are very different than ours.

As for those nations where Presidents are elected by popular vote, it’s a good question on how they differ from ours. Pretty much I’ve always skipped that part of foreign politics.

I suspect, though, that the Russian President doesn’t worry too much about conventions…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:03:20pm

re: #35 Testy Toad T

I was exit polled. I told them Crom.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:03:27pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Drama queens.

Where’s that darling Drama Llama when he’s needed?

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:03:43pm

re: #33 StephenMeansMe

Also, how many other countries select candidates like we do? It seems to me like it’s mostly party-level with very little popular input.

It would be other countries with presidential systems. In parliamentary systems, you typically vote for the party, and if that party gets the most votes, it chooses an MP to be prime minister.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:04:21pm

The damage:

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:04:33pm

re: #35 Testy Toad T

That if you’re reporting a X% margin for error with a 95% confidence interval, about one in every twenty polls should have a larger than X% error.

This is such a stunningly simple concept. I do not understand how it is so far over so many folks’ heads.

Anti-intellectualism from the left.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:05:29pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:05:36pm

re: #42 Jenner7

Aw! Glad hubby is ok!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:07:13pm
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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:07:42pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

What

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:08:10pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

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A vote not for Hillary is a vote for Trump.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:08:18pm

re: #43 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Sadly, innumeracy is much broader than simple political division. (Heh, division.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:08:29pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

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You know, I can’t help but to notice the absence of any diversity in these types. It can’t be a coincidence can it? Oh and lord is that sign stupid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:08:32pm

Gonna miss having Boxer as a Senator, but I’ll take Kamala Harris as a replacement.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:08:40pm

Oh fuck off Trump guy on the CNN panel, “why won’t the Democrats apologize for slavery?!?!?!?!!?”

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:09:17pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

This meathead should join up with the wingnuts, lest the waves of stupidity emanating from her enstupidate nearby normal people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:09:19pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

Gonna miss having Boxer as a Senator, but I’ll take Kamala Harris as a replacement.

I feel that way about losing Kaine. I think Harris is going to be a good one for you guys.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:09:36pm

re: #52 StephenMeansMe

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:10:29pm

re: #55 Jenner7

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Let me guess, alot of shaming of their parenting skills and shit like that and things they never did to Dylann Roof’s parents nor Dylan Kleboid and Eric Harris’s parents.

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:10:48pm

re: #52 StephenMeansMe

Oh fuck off Trump guy on the CNN panel, “why won’t the Democrats apologize for slavery?!?!?!?!!?”

What a baffoon, was Jeffrey Lord hired as a comic relief? If so, they’re not getting their money’s worth!

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Brian J.  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:11:08pm

re: #35 Testy Toad T

That if you’re reporting a X% margin for error with a 95% confidence interval, about one in every twenty polls should have a larger than X% error.

This is such a stunningly simple concept. I do not understand how it is so far over so many folks’ heads.

It turns out that there were some non-sampling sources of error in exit polls: In general, the exit polls overestimated the percentage of young people and of white people. Both of these errors made Bernie look more popular in exit polls than in the returns.

nytimes.com

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:11:54pm
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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:12:41pm

re: #26 Tigger2

They look like idiots. ijits.

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W of O. The Time Zone Warrior.  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:12:45pm

re: #52 StephenMeansMe

Oh fuck off Trump guy on the CNN panel, “why won’t the Democrats apologize for slavery?!?!?!?!!?”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:13:19pm
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:13:45pm

She went after Rudy because Rudy’s entire schtick is America’s mayor is 9/11. He lied about air quality (in part based on EPA’s Christie Todd Whitman’s statements that the air was safe).

But this also goes to the disposable heroes nature of the GOP. They make great backdrops, but once the spotlight is off, then ignore their plight.

The GOP fought against funding the Zadroga Act. It finally got passed, but then they delayed in refunding it. They finally made it permanent. Thanks to Clinton’s successor Gillibrand and her fellow Senator Schumer.

This is also a rebuke of the whole Benghazi fixation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:13:50pm

re: #59 Jenner7

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I don’t think Axelrod gets it. Those widows, their husbands killers have had the full attention of district attorneys offices throughout this country. For these mothers, it was a minor miracle that there was even indictments in some of their cases or in the case of Eric Garner and many others none at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:14:38pm

re: #52 StephenMeansMe

Oh fuck off Trump guy on the CNN panel, “why won’t the Democrats apologize for slavery?!?!?!?!!?”

Actually asshole, Tim Kaine as mayor of Richmond DID apologize for slavery and that was in the former capital of the CSA and I bet when he did that people like you were crying over so shut your ugly face.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:16:23pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

That signs tells me that they have problems with reading if they see HRC and Trump’s name on the ballot and think they’re the same person. People like these get on my last nerve. If they vote for Trump and he wins, I’ll be okay, but many of them won’t be. I don’t guess they’ve thought about that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:16:53pm

And by the way Democrats weren’t the only slaveowners. This lie needs to stop. There were Whigs that owned slaves too. The Republican Party to its credit was founded as a party opposed to the expansion of slavery. Too bad the Republican Party has been pretty much down hill on civil rights since the centennial of the Civil War. It’s a shame too.

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electrotek  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:17:50pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

And by the way Democrats weren’t the only slaveowners. This lie needs to stop. There were Whigs that owned slaves too. The Republican Party to its credit was founded as a party opposed to the expansion of slavery. Too bad the Republican Party has been pretty much down hill on civil rights since the centennial of the Civil War. It’s a shame too.

I’m sure the Republican Party would bring back slavery if it could.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:18:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:18:43pm

This is a powerful way to push back against the Republicans’ bullshit talking points that the DNC isn’t addressing terrorism.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:18:44pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

And by the way Democrats weren’t the only slaveowners. This lie needs to stop. There were Whigs that owned slaves too. The Republican Party to its credit was founded as a party opposed to the expansion of slavery. Too bad the Republican Party has been pretty much down hill on civil rights since the centennial of the Civil War. It’s a shame too.

And students of history will know that the Republican party at the end of reconstruction felt they owed more attention to white business owners than to African Americans; they were helped enough.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:18:58pm

Dems getting a lot more cops up on stage than the GOP…

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:19:13pm

re: #68 electrotek

I want to say “oh c’mon, I definitely disagree but that’s hyperbolic” and then I remember how many prominent conservatives talk about how slavery wasn’t so bad and the modern black family is broken because of Democrat (sic) policies and… grrr

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:20:42pm

“He cashed in”

Burn.

ETA: over/under on The Donald calling Crowley a liar - if only because Trimp actually scammed the govt for MORE than the $150000 he so glibly claimed as a “small business”??

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:20:48pm

re: #71 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And students of history will know that the Republican party at the end of reconstruction felt they owed more attention to white business owners than to African Americans; they were helped enough.

It’s funny man. The Republicans love to accuse Democrats of taking African-Americans for granted but that’s pretty much what the Republican Party did at the end of Reconstruction.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:20:57pm

re: #15 Snarknado!

And yet another Hillary supporter being interviewed about someone who said, “Hillary has yet to earn my vote.” What would you say to that person, the reporter asks.

My answer would be go fuck yourself, but I suppose she has to be more diplomatic. Pity.

I pretty much had to say that to a Bernie Bro at Crooks & Liars. He was arguing that Secretary Clinton was as dangerous as Trump. My eyes can’t roll back in my head far enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:21:24pm

re: #73 StephenMeansMe

I want to say “oh c’mon, I definitely disagree but that’s hyperbolic” and then I remember how many prominent conservatives talk about how slavery wasn’t so bad and the modern black family is broken because of Democrat (sic) policies and… grrr

Bachmann I remember saying exactly that. Not a talk radio asshole but an acutal elected official.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:21:54pm

Awesome.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:17pm

Crowley isn’t pulling his punches here on Trump and 9/11 or the WTC recovery.

And I think we’ve got a IS reference too!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:26pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Good. Bigots should always be made uncomfortable. I’m thoroughly enjoying the DNC (as usual).

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:33pm

re: #35 Testy Toad T

That if you’re reporting a X% margin for error with a 95% confidence interval, about one in every twenty polls should have a larger than X% error.

This is such a stunningly simple concept. I do not understand how it is so far over so many folks’ heads.

Are they seriously using the discrepancy between call polls and exit polls as evidence for collusion?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:56pm

re: #72 Scottishdragon

Dems getting a lot more cops up on stage than the GOP…

Oh, but they had Sheriff Clarke! He outweighs them all because he’s willing to say Black Lives DON’T Matter!

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:57pm

re: #59 Jenner7

I get Trayvon Martins mom. But that is such a different kind of case than Michael Brown. Lots of evidence to show what a real fight there was between Michael Brown and Officer Darren Wilson. Very mixed feelings here, partly influenced by a book a friend did that really made the case Wilson had good reason to act as he did as the fight progressed.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:23:13pm

Crowley, Booker, and several others have delivered far more “muscular” or “manly” speeches in support of Hillary/liberal values than anyone did for Trump or conservative values (they’re not actually connected), for all their screaming and bluster.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:23:26pm
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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:23:31pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

What theses guys don’t get is that I don’t want them to apologize to me because they enslaved my ancestors. All I want is equal and fair treatment for every American and for us to not be judged by our appearance, religion, sexual orientation, sex, etc. If they do this, I’ll be fine because it would mean an end to them treating myself and some other Americans like 2nd Class citizens. But, for some Americans, especially on the right, this is either something they’re unwilling or unable to do in spite of all of their talk about how great America is and the so-called love they have for American principles and beliefs. Talking about what they believe ain’t worth sh*t if they don’t practice it.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:23:38pm
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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:23:53pm

It feels so damn good to watch a political convention without having to suppress the urge to throw breakable objects at my TV screen.

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TK-421  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:24:05pm

re: #22 Jenner7

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Good grief.

Elton John - Sad Songs (Say So Much)

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:24:07pm

re: #71 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And students of history will know that the Republican party at the end of reconstruction felt they owed more attention to white business owners than to African Americans; they were helped enough.

The Republicans lost the peace after the US civil war. That was mainly a failure.

In the mid 20th century they started bringing the Confederates into the party. That was opportunistic malice in appealing to racists who were becoming discouraged with the Democrats’ progress on civil rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:24:19pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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That’s been Jon Stewart’s big thing since he left the Daily Show. It’s very personal to him.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:24:38pm

re: #88 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Except when it cuts back to the panel >_>

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:25:51pm

re: #87 JasonA

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I just think about how the media made a big deal of Mia Love being the first black woman elected to Congress last election. In 1972, the Democrats had a black woman run for President. But remember the Democrats are the real racist party because of where their party was 150 years ago even though we should ignore the Republican Party’s history of continued race baiting from 1964 on.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:26:04pm

re: #86 majii

What theses guys don’t get is that I don’t want them to apologize to me because they enslaved my ancestors. All I want is equal and fair treatment for every American and for us to not be judged by our appearance, religion, sexual orientation, sex, etc. If they do this, I’ll be fine because it would mean an end to them treating myself and some other Americans like 2nd Class citizens. But, for some Americans, especially on the right, this is either something they’re unwilling or unable to do in spite of all of their talk about how great America is and the so-called love they have for American principles and beliefs. Talking about what they believe ain’t worth sh*t if they don’t practice it.

Republicans tend to swallow their tongues when hit with this challenge: “Don’t tell me what you believe. Show me what you do and I’ll tell you what you believe.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:20pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

Republicans tend to swallow their tongues when hit with this challenge: “Don’t tell me what you believe. Show me what you do and I’ll tell you what you believe.”

They have a really bad habit of saying liberals believe this and liberals believe that. I am particularly fond of being told I want a handout form the government. No, I want a government that invests in me and my fellow citizens rather than a government that spends money on a defense budget that even the DOD admits is bloated.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:22pm

New (to me) freeper/racist meme:

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:36pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Cruz endorsed a far right politician here in GA recently. The guy is on the record saying that if cops try to enter his house without a warrant, he’ll shoot to kill. It’s OK for him to say this because of two things which I won’t mention. If this were a democratic candidate for Congress saying something like this, GA would be full of people looking for the nearest fainting couch. Michele Fiore expressed anti-cop sentiments and GOPers pretended not to hear it.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:38pm

re: #92 StephenMeansMe

Except when it cuts back to the panel >_>

There’s a reason that I’m watching the DNC feed on YouTube versus seeing a panel stacked with RNC talking heads - which seems to be the case on all three news channels.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:42pm

Jeez.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:46pm

I have a feeling Bill Clinton is going to bring down the roof tonight.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:28:03pm

re: #83 Great White Snark

I get Trayvon Martins mom. But that is such a different kind of case than Michael Brown. Lots of evidence to show what a real fight there was between Michael Brown and Officer Darren Wilson. Very mixed feelings here, partly influenced by a book a friend did that really made the case Wilson had good reason to act as he did as the fight progressed.

I think the legacy from Michael Brown has become less about the specific event of his death, it has become about other things: The too-cozy relationships between cops and prosecutors, broken windows style policing, using warrants and fines and bail to fund small and separate policing divisions.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:28:10pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

New (to me) freeper/racist meme:

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not clicking not clicking not clicking

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:28:23pm

re: #81 b_sharp

Are they seriously using the discrepancy between call polls and exit polls as evidence for collusion?

Nothing in that vein should surprise us since Bush V Gore

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:29:17pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Oddly, it always seems like Democrats are the ones promoting fair rule of law compared to the double-standard-wielding, rent-seeking “conservative” Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:29:31pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

New (to me) freeper/racist meme:

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I didn’t realize DA’s offices weren’t prosecuting cop killers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:29:48pm

re: #102 JasonA

not clicking not clicking not clicking

You can cover it up again.

But remember - Democrats are the REAL racists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:30:02pm

Dumb wingnuts have nothing else so they bring out the Byrdshit

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:30:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:30:38pm

re: #97 majii

Cruz endorsed a far right politician here in GA recently. The guy is on the record saying that if cops try to enter his house without a warrant, he’ll shoot to kill. It’s OK for him to say this because of two things which I won’t mention. If this were a democratic candidate for Congress saying something like this, GA would be full of people looking for the nearest fainting couch. Michele Fiore expressed anti-cop sentiments and GOPers pretended not to hear it.

Exactly, for all the talk that Democrats are anti-cop. The Republicans have candidates and rhetoric like this all the time. And Cruz again shows why he’s still a dick.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:30:44pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

“… but how dare you bring up David Duke!!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:31:32pm

re: #101 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I think the legacy from Michael Brown has become less about the specific event of his death, it has become about other things: The too-cozy relationships between cops and prosecutors, broken windows style policing, using warrants and fines and bail to fund small and separate policing divisions.

Indeed, McCulloch appears to me saw himself as the legal arm of the police department rather than the People which is what a DA’s office actually is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:31:52pm

Howard Dean now

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:03pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

What do we even do about this? Are there any sanction-able goods left?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:08pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

I have a feeling Bill Clinton is going to bring down the roof tonight.

followed by POTUS tomorrow. I hope Hillary brings a barn burner because the speakers so far have been tough acts to follow.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:28pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Howard Dean now

YEEAAAHHHH!!!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:31pm

YEAHHHHHHH

Howard Dean is up, in case you didn’t know

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:41pm

re: #104 StephenMeansMe

Oddly, it always seems like Democrats are the ones promoting fair rule of law compared to the double-standard-wielding, rent-seeking “conservative” Republicans.

Yeah the Kim Davises of the world should be able to get out of giving out same sex marriage applications because they don’t like gay marriage even though they would go ballistic if an anti-gun clerk denied someone a firearms license.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:41pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:32:56pm

Howard Dean looks great!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:34:21pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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Me fail history? That’s unpossible. Especially LOL at the Democrats founded slavery comment. Pretty funny considering that slavery was in the colonies long before any political party existed in the US.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:35:34pm

I always wanted to know where Charles Manson stands on this election.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:35:42pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:35:42pm

re: #101 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I think the legacy from Michael Brown has become less about the specific event of his death, it has become about other things: The too-cozy relationships between cops and prosecutors, broken windows style policing, using warrants and fines and bail to fund small and separate policing divisions.

I get that, I really do. The problem then starts at “hands up don’t shoot” and ends with an idea that even when police act with sheer necessity, something shady is up anyway. As I said mixed feelings. When we have really deep evidence of the violent wrongs committed by the person in question, we need to hew to the truth. The legacy is not Michael Brown. The legacy is the innocent like Trayvon or at least the cooperative guy who does not fight. More like Garner. Include guys that demonstrably tried to hurt or kill the officer and we depart ways with too many reasonable people.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:36:16pm

re: #121 MsJ

Weird, Trump seems like he could be persuaded to re-instate the death penalty, expedited, in public, by beheading. (All of which, I should add, I oppose.)

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:36:29pm
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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:37:32pm

Hillary is going to appear via satellite later tonight.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:37:33pm

holy fucking shit

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:37:35pm

re: #121 MsJ

I always wanted to know where Charles Manson stands on this election.

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And I thought Omorosa giving the rebuttal with the RNC’s tact go ahead on foreign policy was my what the hell is going on moment of the day.

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piratedan  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:37:55pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

y’know… they’re right. The Democratic party WAS indeed responsible for a whole lot of crap. The thing is, they’ve changed and NO longer support any of those things and in fact ACTIVELY work to correct those mistakes. Tell them to get back to me on what the GOP has been up to in regards to civil rights these last 50 years….

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:03pm

And now…deep thoughts:

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:11pm

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

Byrd repented of his KKK involvement. Repubs know that. Who are they trying to fool?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:17pm

Apparently, this, too…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:21pm

And he yells!!!!

YAY!!!!

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:22pm

re: #127 JasonA

GOP aiming for that elusive 0% African-American vote.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:40pm
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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:50pm

re: #103 Great White Snark

Nothing in that vein should surprise us since Bush V Gore

I checked a little further. The discrepancy is between the exit poll and reported results. I suspect the exit polls that showed the biggest discrepancies had huge margins of error.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:38:52pm

re: #134 Lidane

Maybe they think they’re playing golf and not electoral politics.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:39:12pm

FEEL THE DEAN!!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:39:28pm

So, the word counters are getting the IS fill.

And the flags. And all the other BS totems they’ve claimed were missing.

All while the GOP nominee’s foreign policy consists of empty platitudes.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:39:37pm

re: #127 JasonA

holy fucking shit

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That dumb motherfucker just can’t stop himself, can he?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:39:38pm

re: #134 Lidane

GOP aiming for that elusive 0% African-American vote.

That’s attainable for such an odious Party.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:39:41pm

re: #127 JasonA

Shortly after Obama was elected the first time, as the Tea Party was really gathering steam, I noted that closeted racism would be made quite public, and that the wingnuts would go “there” - that is, there is nothing in their minds that will stop them from publicly pushing their hate agenda.

No matter how stupid it appears to the rest of us.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:40:16pm

re: #127 JasonA

holy fucking shit

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Yeah somehow I don’t trust Mr. all my history books have been called inaccurate here. And even if so, he ignores the point of Michelle bringing that up. She’s talking about how her ancestors were slaves and hell for all we know some of them could have helped built Washington to now they’re the First Family. If O’Reilly wants to turn this into a slavery wasn’t so bad shti show, he can kiss the darkest corner of my ass.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:40:19pm

“Someone to sit on the other side of the table: from Russia, from China, from Canada…” heh, one of these things is not like the other…

… OR IS IT. /s

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:40:39pm

I love the juxtaposition of Russia, China, and Canada.

Those Canadians are dangerous! If we’re not careful, we’ll all be saying eh and being polite.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:40:47pm

re: #127 JasonA

See y’all are trying to make me cuss. **Blood pressure rising.**

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:40:56pm

re: #144 StephenMeansMe

“Someone to sit on the other side of the table: from Russia, from China, from Canada…” heh, one of these things is not like the other…

… OR IS IT. /s

Don’t ask me…I am biased. //

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:41:36pm

re: #121 MsJ

Sadly, it’s a joke.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:41:37pm

re: #129 piratedan

y’know… they’re right. The Democratic party WAS indeed responsible for a whole lot of crap. The thing is, they’ve changed and NO longer support any of those things and in fact ACTIVELY work to correct those mistakes. Tell them to get back to me on what the GOP has been up to in regards to civil rights these last 50 years….

And as for that asshole who cried about the Democrats not apologizing for slavery. Tim Kaine as mayor of the former capital city of the Confederacy did in fact do just that. But yeah that really is the thing. The Democrats have been doing their best to move away from their past in a sincere effort to right past wrongs. The Republican Party meanwhile wants everyone to forget that they once were a party that had decent ideas and people leading it.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:41:54pm

re: #145 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The South Park episode about mass illegal Canadian immigration had a bit about teaching the “Canadian alphabet” in schools. I chuckled. “A B C D E F Guy…”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:42:15pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Byrd repented of his KKK involvement. Repubs know that. Who are they trying to fool?

They want people to hear Byrd and ignore that they had unrependent assholes like Jesse Helms for years.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:42:18pm

re: #130 bratwurst

And now…deep thoughts:

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And today I’m one day older than I was yesterday.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:42:32pm

Has Bloomberg spoken yet? I don’t see him on the schedule for the week but there were news stories about him endorsing during a primetime speech.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:00pm

re: #123 Great White Snark

How do you know that Mike Brown “demonstrably” fought or hurt the police officer?

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:03pm

Gotta say, the staging, the scheduling, the coordination and speech topics/copy are just incredible. So many people really personalizing and humanizing Hillary-from every walk of life and experience. Kudos to the producers.

I knew it would be infinitely better than the shitshow last week, but I am being blown away by the excellence. Didn’t think last night could be beat, but so far, am enjoying tonight even more—particularly all the personal stories about Hillary doing the right thing for people every time.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:08pm

re: #151 StephenMeansMe

The South Park episode about mass illegal Canadian immigration had a bit about teaching the “Canadian alphabet” in schools. I chuckled. “A B C D E F Guy…”

I confess that I’m irritated by “zed.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Byrd repented of his KKK involvement. Repubs know that. Who are they trying to fool?

Stupid people.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:44:10pm

re: #127 JasonA

holy fucking shit

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Thins kind of thing is why I think electrotek’s comment upthread that Republicans would re-impose slavery if they could is just the simple truth.

Put the pieces together.

1) Republicans think blacks are incorrigibly lazy and shiftless.

2) Republicans insist that everyone (except Republicans) pulls themselves up by their bootstraps via hard work.

From these premises, it it obvious to a Republican (or to a sociopath, but I repeat myself) that slavery should be imposed to get blacks back to work.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:44:17pm

re: #142 freetoken

Shortly after Obama was elected the first time, as the Tea Party was really gathering steam, I noted that closeted racism would be made quite public, and that the wingnuts would go “there” - that is, there is nothing in their minds that will stop them from publicly pushing their hate agenda.

No matter how stupid it appears to the rest of us.

Exactly. I saw this coming, too. It’s why I ran away screaming from the Republican Party and the right. Then I watched over the past 8 years as it got worse and worse and worse, and now we have an outright xenophobic nationalist as the GOP presidential candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:44:19pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Stupid people.

Oh you mean their base. The base they keep ignorant by never missing a change to gut education spending.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:44:24pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Byrd repented of his KKK involvement. Repubs know that. Who are they trying to fool?

Fox News viewers?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:07pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

They want people to hear Byrd and ignore that they had unrependent assholes like Jesse Helms for years.

Exactly! And they are trying to divert us from the fact that today, White Supremacists are openly rooting for Trump, who had his own racial baggage.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:13pm

re: #144 StephenMeansMe

“Someone to sit on the other side of the table: from Russia, from China, from Canada…” heh, one of these things is not like the other…

… OR IS IT. /s

We Canadians are dangerous. We are the best infiltrators. We already speak english, we have been hiding in your country for decades, unseen. Soon….

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:22pm

re: #127 JasonA

What, you’re surprised that the network that has been devaluing blacks and the black experience are now whitesplainin’ what happened with the construction of the White House?

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:25pm

re: #127 JasonA

holy fucking shit

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Why them uppity darkies shoulda been grateful fer all they were gettin’! Free food an’ shelter an’ such! Sticks in my craw that those ingrates are demonstratin’ on the streets were white women are afraid to walk now! There ought to be a law, you know! We had a way of dealin’ with those darkies in my day, mark my words now!

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:34pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

And the addendum to (2): If someone else fails to get ahead, they’re lazy (and if they’re brown, it’s somehow in their nature), but if *I* fail to get ahead, it’s the government keeping me down.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:45:51pm

re: #156 BeachDem

Gotta say, the staging, the scheduling, the coordination and speech topics/copy are just incredible. So many people really personalizing and humanizing Hillary-from every walk of life and experience. Kudos to the producers.

I knew it would be infinitely better than the shitshow last week, but I am being blown away by the excellence. Didn’t think last night could be beat, but so far, am enjoying tonight even more—particularly all the personal stories about Hillary doing the right thing for people every time.

This is what happens when a campaign spends money on a competent, professional staff and actually plans their convention in advance.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:19pm

re: #149 gocart mozart

Sadly, it’s a joke.

Boooo. :-(

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:39pm

re: #168 Lidane

And when most of the party actually likes the nominee and agrees to contribute.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:53pm

re: #156 BeachDem

Gotta say, the staging, the scheduling, the coordination and speech topics/copy are just incredible. So many people really personalizing and humanizing Hillary-from every walk of life and experience. Kudos to the producers.

I knew it would be infinitely better than the shitshow last week, but I am being blown away by the excellence. Didn’t think last night could be beat, but so far, am enjoying tonight even more—particularly all the personal stories about Hillary doing the right thing for people every time.

This convention is about Hillary almost as much as last week’s was!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:57pm

re: #164 Single-handed sailor

Soon we will force Americans to eat poutine and speak French as a second language.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:47:22pm

re: #168 Lidane

This is what happens when a campaign spends money on a competent, professional staff and actually plans their convention in advance.

And does not have a narcissistic incompetent at the top who is guaranteed to nix any good ideas that may come up from others in the organization.

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:47:52pm

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

How do you know that Mike Brown “demonstrably” fought or hurt the police officer?

Forensic evidence. DOJ report. Also there is this book I read. DOJ report.
Some of this is ugly physical detail, so private.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:48:50pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Byrd repented of his KKK involvement. Repubs know that. Who are they trying to fool?

51% of the electorate.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:48:54pm

re: #127 JasonA

“Really, folks, I don’t know why people keep complaining about negroes not being paid enough. You wouldn’t believe what it costs for a night of Thomas Jefferson role-playing action in this town…”

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:49:10pm

No. Shit.

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fern01  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:49:28pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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If it’s good for Trump it’s fine with the political media. Watergate would never have been investigated in 2016.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:49:54pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Remember when I posted a link w/video to one of those Beck gatherings, I think it was in Indiana?

It was all pretty clear what was going on by then.

I don’t know how long this sort of catharsis is going to go on in America. Perhaps we are better off in some ways than in those smaller nations going through their own identity struggles, especially in eastern Europe.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:50:05pm

re: #178 fern01

If it wasn’t during the campaign and it was otherwise a slow news month, maybe still.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:50:46pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Mr. Byrd also did something that many on the right never do—-he repented and meant it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:04pm

re: #130 bratwurst

And now…deep thoughts:

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Last week, Christie ginned up the lynch mob during a mock prosecution of Secretary Clinton for crimes committed only in his head. He needs to be in jail for Bridge-gate.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:10pm

“Opportunity for women is not a sign of a country’s weakness; it’s a sign of a nation’s strength!” And a Twain quote. Damn straight.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:14pm

re: #177 bratwurst

No. Shit.

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The Fox-Republican reaction to a Clinton-Russia situation would be visible on the other end of the observable universe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:27pm

Amy Klobuchar about human trafficking…wow!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:20pm

He has no strategy

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:30pm

It’s Top Sekrit

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:38pm

re: #181 majii

Mr. Byrd also did something that many on the right never do—-he repented and meant it.

He repeatedly did that through both his words and actions. Something that Jesse Helms never did. Helms as recently as 1993 was bragging about how he’d make a black colleague cry by whistling Dixie. Even Strom Thurmond never resorted to that shit. I regret that Jesse Helms never lived to see Barack Obama elected because the election of Barack Obama was a living invalidation of everything that racist bastard stood for.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:53:20pm

re: #187 JasonA

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It’s Top Sekrit

You’re going to give them stock in your trashy brands aren’t you, Donald?

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:53:41pm

re: #187 JasonA

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It’s Top Sekrit

“You don’t know me! YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD!!!!”

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:53:48pm

There’s a slavery/ human trafficking survivor talking right now. I’m sure her captors provided her with food and lodging though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:01pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy Klobuchar about human trafficking…wow!

I think she’s someone who could be considered for AG in a Clinton administration. I saw her name for USSC when Scalia died.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:05pm

re: #187 JasonA

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It’s Top Sekrit

The strategy may be top secret, but we all know where it will come from. Trump’s ass.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:06pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Carpet-bomb them with Trump University degrees. //

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:55pm

re: #194 StephenMeansMe

Carpet-bomb them with Trump University degrees. //

My vision is red Make America Great Again hats coming out of airplanes to Wagner.

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EPR-radar  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:55:02pm

re: #194 StephenMeansMe

Carpet-bomb them with Trump University degrees. //

That would be a war crime. Which Trump has no problems with.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:55:22pm

So much BoB ratfucking went on, and the media dutifully played their roles too. Because the convention outcome was known to all, anything that deviates is treated in an oversized manner.

Heck, you could have each of these protesters with their own reporter given the numbers involved for each. That’s what happened.

There were no arrests inside the Convention hall. That’s just more fact-free spin.

But don’t take my word for it. Consider a reporter who was covering it as it happened.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:55:42pm

re: #187 JasonA

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It’s Top Sekrit

Didn’t McCain say that about al Qaeda? Must be a GOOPer thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:55:48pm

Madeleine now!

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:56:15pm

re: #187 JasonA

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It’s Top Sekrit

Yep, like Tricky Dick before him, he’s got a SECRET PLAN!!! For EVERYTHING!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:56:43pm
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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:56:44pm

Madeleine Albright walking out to Billy Joel’s “Uptown Girl” “Tell Her About It”.

EDIT: My Billy Joel-fu was faulty. Fixed.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:57:07pm

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Having no strategy is the best policy. /s

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:57:20pm

re: #200 Jay C

Yep, like Tricky Dick before him, he’s got a SECRET PLAN!!! For EVERYTHING!!

Trump! A-ahhhh
He’ll save every one of us!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:58:40pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

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It’s little things like that show me the difference between the two parties. The Democrats get people who have been through a lot in their lives and the Republicans scrape the barrel for people who had fame that support them or in this case, the Dems have an actual survivor of slavery and human trafficking and the REpublicans have an executive of that.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:59:06pm

Heh, the mental picture of Albright looking sternly at Clinton until she finished eating her Czech cabbage.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:59:13pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Helms as recently as 1993 was bragging about how he’d make a black colleague cry by whistling Dixie.

Carol Mosley Braun

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:59:50pm

re: #207 Eric The Fruit Bat

Carol Mosley Braun

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:00:30pm

nice snark at Donald.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:00:32pm
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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:01:27pm

Damn! “He has already done damage just by running for President!”

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:01:29pm
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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:01:31pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

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I’m trying to remember - was there ANYONE from prior Republican administrations who appeared onstage for the Trump Family Fest? Really the only high-profile Republican that I remember was Newt.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:02:28pm

re: #206 StephenMeansMe

Heh, the mental picture of Albright looking sternly at Clinton until she finished eating her Czech cabbage.

I loved the shout-out to Vaclav Havel.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:02:37pm

Have some of the older Pages been deleted?

I tried to find my Page here:

littlegreenfootballs.com[Video]_Project_912_Glenn_Beck

but I get a 404.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:02:44pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

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WHY IS OBAMA SO RACIALLY DIVISIVE!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:02:59pm

re: #214 JasonA

I loved the shout-out to Vaclav Havel.

One of my heroes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:04pm

re: #197 lawhawk

Until I just read your comment, wasn’t aware of any walk out. Fascinating. Whatever became of the fart-in?

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:07pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:16pm

LOL it must be past his bedtime, he’s bashing Bill’s speech in advance.

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:16pm

Bam. A vote for the GOP candidate is a vote for the commies. Did I wake up in an alternate universe? Always respected Madeline Albright

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:51pm

Bubba!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:03:54pm

Okay gang…story I have never told anybody here about before about the time I did meet Hillary Clinton. All those testimonials you heard tonight about how she pays utter attention to you? True. Absolutely.

1993 South Korea at Camp Casey. Big freaking helicopter hanger where the POTUS was having a photo op and rally with the troops of Second Infantry Division.

I was stationed at Camp Casey and I had access all over the place. I was in the balcony above the main stage and saw everything with a great view. Later, I walked down into the crowd as the POTUS and Mrs Clinton walked around the roped area and shook hands. Soldiers everywhere were yelling HIllary! and though I was a hardcore Republican and did not particularly care for the Clintons at that time, I was offended that they were treating the FLOTUS in such a cavalier manner. It was rude and it offended me.

As she walked to where I was with the Hillary yells drowning everything out, I extended my hand and simply said “Ma’am”. She looked very directly at me and said quietly…for me and me only…”Thank you”.

It was an amazing moment and it made a huge impression on me…with just two words.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:04:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:04:05pm

re: #213 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Mukasey spoke. He was a former AG.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:04:23pm

re: #221 Great White Snark

Bam. A vote for the GOP candidate is a vote for the commies. Did I wake up in an alternate universe?

You woke up in the bed they made.

That may not have come out right.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:04:44pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

LOL it must be past his bedtime, he’s bashing Bill’s speech in advance.

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It also doesn’t make any sense. “If Pres. Clinton is great, the press will say he’s great!”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:04:52pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

Trump knows something about highly overrated people. He surely does.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:05:20pm

The Big Dog about to bring the roof down. This is going to be awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:05:28pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

LOL it must be past his bedtime, he’s bashing Bill’s speech in advance.

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Donald, maybe it’s time for your nap.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:06:15pm

re: #229 Lidane

The Big Dog about to bring the roof down. This is going to be awesome.

I’d say he kind of owes it to her to make this the greatest fucking piece of oratory he’s ever delivered.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:06:53pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:06:55pm

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

Until I just read your comment, wasn’t aware of any walk out. Fascinating. Whatever became of the fart-in?

It crapped out? :-)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:07:01pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

You mean why is he so blackety black black?

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:07:10pm

re: #231 JasonA

I’d say he kind of owes it to her to make this the greatest fucking piece of oratory he’s ever delivered.

If his 2012 DNC speech is anything to go by, he’ll do just fine. :)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:07:42pm

re: #233 MsJ

Lol!! As fart-ins tend to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:07:56pm

who is doing the voice over for this Clinton thing?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:08:48pm

I’m young enough that this will really be one of the first times I’ve listened to Bill Clinton speak.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:08:53pm

Ok, I gotta go watch Bubba - and pay attention. BBIAB

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:09:25pm

Fox News: OMG TEH DEMOCRATS ARE TEH PARTY OF BIG GOVERNMENT UNLIKE IN TEH 90’S!1!1!!!1!!

Y U NO TALK ABOUT BENGHAZI!!!!????

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:09:53pm

re: #239 MsJ

Ok, I gotta go watch Bubba - and pay attention. BBIAB

Just watch it above…

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:09:56pm

Sully sounds so concerned.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:01pm

Back after Bill’s speech. BBL

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:31pm

re: #238 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m young enough that this will really be one of the first times I’ve listened to Bill Clinton speak.

Whippersnapper.

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:36pm

re: #238 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m young enough that this will really be one of the first times I’ve listened to Bill Clinton speak.

Nobody likes a braggart. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:53pm

I’m glad he’s gotten his health in order these past years. Happy for him.

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:53pm

re: #226 JasonA

You woke up in the bed they made.

That may not have come out right.

LOL tho

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W of O. The Time Zone Warrior.  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:07pm

Cool “Ain’t no stopping us now”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:20pm

re: #245 bratwurst

Nobody likes a braggart. ;)

Part of that is because I didn’t watch the conventions in 2012. Grad school was still consuming my life.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:24pm

Think I just saw Senator Warren next to Chelsea.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:39pm

re: #249 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Part of that is because I didn’t watch the conventions in 2012. Grad school was still consuming my life.

Yeah I know what you mean.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:42pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Think I just saw Senator Warren next to Chelsea.

you did

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:14:39pm

I don’t know if Bill is coming off sweet or stalkery.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:14:41pm

And now. President Clinton.

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b.d.  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:15:10pm

re: #254 lawhawk

And now. President Clinton I.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:15:31pm

re: #253 JasonA

I don’t know if Bill is coming off sweet or stalkery.

Nah, it’s cute.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:15:49pm

His voice sounds old. Not a bad thing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:15:55pm

I can’t bear to listen to this. Sorry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:16:19pm

He has tremors in his hands.
:(

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:17:30pm

re: #254 lawhawk

And now. President Clinton.

Hopefully, we get to refer to Bill & Hillary as Clinton 42 and Clinton 45, come November.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:17:35pm

Oh shit, Hillary has a brother.

Presidential Siblings, don’t they usually end up becoming a source of comedy and stupid?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:03pm

re: #261 Ziggy_TARDIS

Oh shit, Hillary has a brother.

Presidential Siblings, don’t they usually end up becoming a source of comedy and stupid?

you didn’t know about Hugh and Tony?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:05pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do too. At the much younger age of 26.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:21pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

He has tremors in his hands.
:(

Getting old sucks.

He looks every bit his age, but he sounds like 20 years ago.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:51pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

you didn’t know about Hugh and Tony?

I didn’t know Secretary Clinton had any siblings at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:53pm

re: #264 TedStriker

Getting old sucks.

He looks every bit his age, but he sounds like 20 years ago.

Yep this is the voice of my childhood. I’ll never forget that voice.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:55pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

No, I didn’t.

I think this is sweet. Husband gushing over his wife. Remember, the 60s and 70s were a different time.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:03pm

I like that Bill’s talking about Hillary’s work in college and law school. It might warm some hearts towards her.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:12pm

re: #168 Lidane

This is what happens when a campaign spends money on a competent, professional staff and actually plans their convention in advance.

Talent and a bevy of talented people on your side doesn’t hurt either.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:19pm

re: #265 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t Secretary Clinton had any siblings at all.

Wasn’t trying to sound condescending. Yeah I think they’re both younger than her.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:21pm

This part of the speech is a direct rebuttal of the Trump mantra about a bitter relationship between Hillary and Bill:

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:32pm

Secret Agent Hillary Clinton?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:46pm

Baby Whiplash, staying classy

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fern01  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:03pm

re: #265 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t Secretary Clinton had any siblings at all.

Which means the political media has found nothing bad to say about them

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:08pm

It was from 2009, and Charles made a keypost out that Beck meetup of know-nothings:

At Glenn Beck Tea Party: ‘Burn the Books!’

This is why we have Drumpfskind today as the GOP candidate, and why his supporters feel so free to have a fact-free universe.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:09pm

re: #267 Ziggy_TARDIS

No, I didn’t.

I think this is sweet. Husband gushing over his wife. Remember, the 60s and 70s were a different time.

My parents meeting albeit in the early 80’s was pretty interesting. Funny thing is my dad worked for his future father in law about 10 years before he even met my mom.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:51pm

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, staying classy

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He really is a squirmy little dick isn’t he? Must suck to be miserable as you are Ben.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:05pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Didn’t take your comment as condescending. I suppose her siblings have simply kept themselves out of the spotlight.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:30pm

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t take your comment as condescending. I suppose her siblings have simply kept themselves out of the spotlight.

Probably a lot easier, since their last name isn’t Clinton.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:36pm

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

Yes and no; apparently one of them is a Democratic politician in New York Florida (!) en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:02pm

By the way learning this stuff about Hillary before she even became the spouse of the Arkansas AG really impresses me. It makes what I’ve done with my life feel insignificant.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:47pm

This is amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:56pm

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

Didn’t take your comment as condescending. I suppose her siblings have simply kept themselves out of the spotlight.

I think there were some things with them in the early 90’s but as Tardis said siblings go back a long way. Even George Washington had embarassing siblings.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:23:05pm

re: #279 klys (maker of Silmarils)

True.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:23:13pm

I am loving this speech.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:23:18pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

By the way learning this stuff about Hillary before she even became the spouse of the Arkansas AG really impresses me. It makes what I’ve done with my life feel insignificant.

My girlfriend just texted me that she has learned so much about Hil tonight.

There’s so much not known beyond the RW smear campaign.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:23:29pm

I love Bill. He is funny and charming.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:06pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

My girlfriend just texted me that she has learned so much about Hil tonight.

There’s so much not known beyond the RW smear campaign.

She really is an impressive woman.

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:10pm

Ah..this makes me feel better!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:23pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am loving this speech.

I love that he’s being honest about how independent she was. Turned him down!

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:29pm

re: #191 JasonA

Let me speak from experience, Jason A. If we blacks had waited for others to feed and clothe us after the Civil War, most of us would be dead. We’re resilient because we’ve had to be which is something that the “Blacks are looking for handouts” tools never think about. My parents fed, housed, and clothed six kids and themselves without accepting one cent of government assistance. People like Bill O’Reilly say things, but they have no idea what they’re talking about. My dad was a federal government employee, my mom was a stay-at-home parent, but if one speaks to O’Reilly, I knew neither my mom nor my dad, but I did. They raised me and my brothers to adulthood and did a d*mn good job of it. Those who talk about other groups using stereotypes and scapegoating don’t know what the hell they’re talking about and are flapping their gums to create divisions among the U.S. population in an attempt to make themselves feel better because deep inside of themselves they know they’re some real b*st*rds.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:25:32pm

re: #288 HappyWarrior

She really is an impressive woman.

She’s amazingly accomplished, all the more so for overcoming the shadow that tainted the end of her husband’s presidency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:26:16pm

“I bought that house, now you have to marry me.”

“Third time was the charm.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:26:17pm

re: #291 majii

Let me speak from experience, Jason A. If we blacks had waited for others to feed and clothe us after the Civil War, most of us would be dead. We’re resilient because we’ve had to be which is something that the “Blacks are looking for handouts” tools never think about. My parents fed, housed, and clothed six kids and themselves without accepting one cent of government assistance. People like Bill O’Reilly say things, but they have no idea what they’re talking about. My dad was a federal government employee, my mom was a stay-at-home parent, but if one speaks to O’Reilly, I knew neither my mom nor my dad, but I did. They raised me and my brothers to adulthood and did a d*mn good job of it. Those who talk about other groups using stereotypes and scapegoating don’t know what the hell they’re talking about and are flapping their gums to create divisions among the U.S. population in an attempt to make themselves feel better because deep inside of themselves they know they’re some real b*st*rds.

What I really resent about the lie that African-Americans just want free stuff is that some of the most white and Republican areas of the country are the highest recipients of federal assistance. I don’t mind helping them but I resent white Republicans saying that black people are dependent on government and that’s why they vote Democratic.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:26:47pm

This is so incredibly sweet!!

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:27:15pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

It’s absurd how many white people benefiting from government programs think that “government assistance” only means “when non-whites get help.”

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:27:39pm
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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:27:58pm

Has anyone else noticed that he’s been speaking for nearly half an hour and is only up to 1979? Could be a looong evening…

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:28:14pm

re: #297 JasonA

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And I love that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:28:59pm

re: #296 StephenMeansMe

It’s absurd how many white people benefiting from government programs think that “government assistance” only means “when non-whites get help.”

It’s that the allowed the backlash against the Great Society and New Deal to exist. I’m not saying there weren’t people against government programs pre-LBJ but a lot of whites especially poorer ones turned against “big government” when LBJ wanted to expand government programs to all people regardless of race.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:23pm

re: #298 calochortus

Has anyone else noticed that he’s been speaking for nearly half an hour and is only up to 1979? Could be a looong evening…

Who cares, it’s Bill Clinton; it ain’t dragging a bit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:37pm

I keep on forgetting that Bill had a quite humble background. I can’t imagine not knowing one of my parents.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:43pm

re: #228 Patricia Kayden

“Trump knows something about highly overrated people. He surely does.”

According to Josh Marshall at TPM, Trump is trying to stiff the hotel where he held his rally in VA today. He told the manager that the AC wasn’t working, and the manager said it was set at its highest level. Trump then threatened not to pay the bill for the conference room where he held his rally, so yep, he knows something about “highly overrated people” because he knows he is highly overrated. Cheap b*st*rd.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:45pm

<re: #289 bratwurst

Ah..this makes me feel better!

Bill O’Reilly: Slaves who built the White House ‘were well-fed and had decent lodgings’ ow.ly

So, I guess a hut out back and all the bacon, beans, and cornmeal he can eat would be enough to keep Bill doing his job. Someone should alert the network HR gang.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:30:18pm
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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:30:23pm

re: #298 calochortus

Has anyone else noticed that he’s been speaking for nearly half an hour and is only up to 1979? Could be a looong evening…

Only reason I noticed the time was because you had to go and mention it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:30:46pm

Bill was such an awesome President.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:30:50pm

re: #301 TedStriker

Who cares, it’s Bill Clinton; it ain’t dragging a bit.

Yeah. I’m actually enjoying it quite a bit. I think he is too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:19pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

I saw his eyes and the tears in them the night she became the presumptive nominee. It’s real. I believe that 100%.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:21pm

Then there’s this.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:27pm

If there’s someone who can weave a story and humanize Hillary, it’s Bill.

He didn’t get where he was, without her. She was his motivation.

Of course, the right wing will focus on his infidelities.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:38pm

re: #310 thedopefishlives

Then there’s this.

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Oldie but a goodie.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:57pm

re: #296 StephenMeansMe

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:07pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Oldie but a goodie.

I see that now, but since I don’t Twitter, I obviously haven’t seen it before.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:24pm
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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:28pm

re: #307 Ziggy_TARDIS

Even the crazy conspiracy theories were better during his Presidency! /

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:28pm

Gawker is livestreaming his teleprompter.

He is not following it all.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:55pm

re: #318 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s giving two speeches at once! It’s like free jazz!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:05pm

re: #315 thedopefishlives

I see that now, but since I don’t Twitter, I obviously haven’t seen it before.

Oh I’ve seen it on Facebook and here too.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:23pm

re: #318 Ziggy_TARDIS

Gawker is livestreaming his teleprompter.

He is not following it all.

One thing that Bill Clinton is justly known for is his extemporaneous speaking. Not everyone can do that.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:40pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Oh I’ve seen it on Facebook and here too.

I live a sheltered life. Not a lot of liberals in my bubble.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:41pm

re: #319 StephenMeansMe

He stopped following it at the point of the segregation academies.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:41pm

re: #311 lawhawk

If there’s someone who can weave a story and humanize Hillary, it’s Bill.

He didn’t get where he was, without her. She was his motivation.

Of course, the right wing will focus on his infidelities.

Of course they will. But you’re not trying to tell me that the right wing doesn’t wink at men fooling around, are you? And that they think women should just accept it?
No. Of course you aren’t. They’re probably livid that they can’t fault the Clintons for staying married.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:50pm

Well we went from the early 80’s to the presidency pretty quickly.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:56pm

I feel like I’m sitting on the couch after Thanksgiving dinner and Bill is telling me a story.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:34:04pm

re: #319 StephenMeansMe

He’s giving two speeches at once! It’s like free jazz!

But no ponytail!

Never trust a musician without a ponytail!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:34:26pm

And once again the pre-school thing is something I did NOT know about.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:13pm

re: #291 majii

Racists will never acknowledge the hardships that African Americans have gone through and risen above in the face of extreme racism (including violence). Yet they are quick to talk about how their ancestors pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. They never talk about how the US government provided Whites with services and opportunities never offered to Black Americans.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:22pm

Who’s Yamagichi?

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Interesting Times  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:39pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

He really is a squirmy little dick isn’t he? Must suck to be miserable as you are Ben.

“We are nauseated by the sight of trivial personalities decomposing in the eternity of print.”
— Virginia Woolf*

*who somehow foresaw the advent of twitter trolls

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:45pm

SMOTI is having the vapors over the Philly protests:

TINDER BOX IN PHILLY=> Protesters Storm DNC Media Tent - TORCH FENCE - Thugs WITH BASEBALL BATS Heading To Convention

Protesters STORMED the DNC Media Tent Tuesday evening in Philadelphia.
The entire assault was caught on video—
THE BERNIE SUPPORTERS STORMED MEDIA ROW—

NOW THIS—
Two U-Haul Trucks Loaded with thugs with baseball bats is heading to the DNC—

At least they’re not loaded with giant puppets.

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:07pm

re: #316 JasonA

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I expect incoming flak.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:18pm

re: #303 majii

So presidential! Always stiffing people what they’re owed. The hotel needs to sue him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:50pm

Well my Windows 10 upgrade is stuck at 99%. Now I find out that is a problem. I will let it sit like that overnight and if it’s still stuck in the morning I will have to stop the upgrade and delete the temp files.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:37:09pm

I can’t stress this bit enough. As driven as we know Bill is, this speech is about how Hillary is the truly driven one to care and help others.

If you believe in making change from the bottom up, it’s hard. She’s been around a long time, and that’s not a knock. It shows her dedication and love of country.

Moving the ball forward.

Trump has no such equivalent person testify to any of it.
Trump also has no comparable record.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:37:50pm

Bill manages to get applause for something Tom Delay helped with. Wow. This is like when Biden talked at Yale at how Mike Mansfield got him to realize that Jesse Helms had some humanity to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:17pm

re: #336 lawhawk

I can’t stress this bit enough. As driven as we know Bill is, this speech is about how Hillary is the truly driven one to care and help others.

If you believe in making change from the bottom up, it’s hard. She’s been around a long time, and that’s not a knock. It shows her dedication and love of country.

Moving the ball forward.

Trump has no such equivalent person testify to any of it.
Trump also has no comparable record.

Yes, that’s what this is.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:23pm

I’m pretty sure a lot of the journalists I’m seeing snarking about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski haven’t had perfect relationships themselves.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:27pm

Question. Was the 22nd Amendment a mistake?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:41pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

Well my Windows 10 upgrade is stuck at 99%. Now I find out that is a problem. I will let it sit like that overnight and if it’s still stuck in the morning I will have to stop the upgrade and delete the temp files.

Mine was an overnight thing. The first time (Win 7 > Win 10). The 2nd laptop was faster for whatever reason.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:56pm

re: #339 jaunte

I think he might be making it up as he goes.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:39:09pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

Well my Windows 10 upgrade is stuck at 99%. Now I find out that is a problem. I will let it sit like that overnight and if it’s still stuck in the morning I will have to stop the upgrade and delete the temp files.

I hope you made a full backup first.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:39:52pm

re: #341 Ziggy_TARDIS

Question. Was the 22nd Amendment a mistake?

I honestly can’t say having never lived FDR. I do personally think that it was passed out of spite against FDR who the Republicans were definitely jealous of.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:01pm

re: #341 Ziggy_TARDIS

Question. Was the 22nd Amendment a mistake?

I’d vote for a third Obama term in a heartbeat.

But…would he do it? Can any human being handle the stress of being in that kind of a spotlight today for three terms? Would we wish that on anyone?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:31pm

She held RFK’s seat!?!?!

And now Gillibrand holds that same seat!

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:37pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure a lot of the journalists I’m seeing snarking about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski haven’t had perfect relationships themselves.

Everyone’s got skeletons in their closet. Christ Almighty. The fact that Bill and Hillary are still together says a lot more about them than Bill’s adultery does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:51pm

re: #344 Skip Intro

I hope you made a full backup first.

Well it’s the laptop.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:59pm

re: #346 ipsos

I would vote for either Bill or Obama in a heartbeat here too.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:06pm

re: #346 ipsos

Yeah, I think it ended up being a well-timed safety net for the health and sanity of our future Presidents.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:16pm

re: #346 ipsos

I’d vote for a third Obama term in a heartbeat.

But…would he do it? Can any human being handle the stress of being in that kind of a spotlight today for three terms? Would we wish that on anyone?

See, that’s why I always laugh when I heard eight years ago that Bush was going to cancel the elections and just why I laugh now. Very rarely does that person want another term. The most messed up thing though is the person who wanted to do away with the 22nd the most was Reagan, someone who clearly was losing it by the time he left office.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:23pm
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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:45pm

re: #341 Ziggy_TARDIS

Question. Was the 22nd Amendment a mistake?

No, I don’t think so. Until FDR presidents self-limited, and I’m not at all sure FDR’s 4th term was a great idea. It’s way too easy to consider yourself indispensable after a few years.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:45pm

Bill gave a GREAT example of how incrementalism works by talking about how SCHIP became an integral part of the ACA.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:45pm

re: #347 Ziggy_TARDIS

She held RFK’s seat!?!?!

And now Gillibrand holds that same seat!

Just like Warren has Ted Kennedy and JFK’s seat.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:59pm

re: #307 Ziggy_TARDIS

Bill was such an awesome President.

He sure was. He and President Obama are my two favorites.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:42:26pm

Trump asking an aide what “ambit” means.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:42:54pm

re: #354 calochortus

No, I don’t think so. Until FDR presidents self-limited, and I’m not at all sure FDR’s 4th term was a great idea. It’s way too easy to consider yourself indispensable after a few years.

I honestly don’t know about FDR’s 4th being a poor idea. From what I understand, he planned to retire after the war was won. It’s a tribute to Truman that he handled the end of the war so well.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:09pm

re: #341 Ziggy_TARDIS

Question. Was the 22nd Amendment a mistake?

Well, the 22nd Amendment turned around and bit Republicans in the ass thrice, stopping third terms for Ike, Reagan and Dumbya.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:15pm
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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:26pm

re: #324 calochortus

“Of course they will. But you’re not trying to tell me that the right wing doesn’t wink at men fooling around, are you? And that they think women should just accept it?
No. Of course you aren’t. They’re probably livid that they can’t fault the Clintons for staying married.”

I think it makes them very angry that the Clintons stayed married after the Lewinsky incident. One would think many on the right would look at this as a true example of family values and the Clintons’ desire to preserve their marriage, but they don’t, and I think the reason they don’t is because the word family values is only a word for them. Trump being divorced twice and on his third marriage is not a reason for them to not vote for him, as we can see. I’m sick of them making rules, claiming they’re the bedrock of their political ideology, and then flushing them down the toilet for the sake of political expediency. Just think, if the Democratic candidate this year was on her third marriage, Fox News and other RW media outlets wouldn’t shut up about it. I happen to be Old School in that I think that whatever decision a married couple makes about their marriage is their business and no one else’s.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:34pm

re: #350 Ziggy_TARDIS

I would vote for either Bill or Obama in a heartbeat here too.

With Trump as the alternative I’d give Triumph the Insult Comic Dog some serious consideration.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:46pm

re: #353 jaunte

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Did they complain about Trump’s rambling, overly long acceptance speech? They need to take several seats.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:43:54pm

re: #360 Joe Bacon

Well, the 22nd Amendment turned around and bit Republicans in the ass thrice, stopping third terms for Ike, Reagan and Dumbya.

Well if Dubs ran again in 2008, he would have been squashed. A fair point about Reagan especially because he was clearly losing it at teh end there.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:44:01pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t know about FDR’s 4th being a poor idea. From what I understand, he planned to retire after the war was won. It’s a tribute to Truman that he handled the end of the war so well.

His health wasn’t great and I think having an elected successor would have been better, but we’ll never know, and I’m not a historian.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:44:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:44:40pm

re: #366 calochortus

His health wasn’t great and I think having an elected successor would have been better, but we’ll never know, and I’m not a historian.

Fair point.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:08pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Well if Dubs ran again in 2008, he would have been squashed. A fair point about Reagan especially because he was clearly losing it at teh end there.

Nope, I still think Dumbya would have been re-elected for a third term with Rove playing another round of his patented dirty tricks!

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:15pm

re: #362 majii

No kidding.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:42pm

re: #369 Joe Bacon

Nope, I still think Dumbya would have been re-elected for a third term with Rove playing another round of his patented dirty tricks!

I dunno.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:50pm

re: #358 jaunte

An X Men character.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:57pm

All right I am getting bored with Bill’s rambling stream of consciousness.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:46:27pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

Trump has three wives and is known as a womanizer so those journalists need to shut it.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:46:29pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t know about FDR’s 4th being a poor idea. From what I understand, he planned to retire after the war was won. It’s a tribute to Truman that he handled the end of the war so well.

The 1944 election is probably the poster child for the idea that a fixed presidential term isn’t always best. FDR certainly didn’t need another four years at that point, but a change in the presidency right then would have been potentially traumatic. We needed him for just a few months longer, and that’s what we got.

(And this is a man who had the luxury today’s presidents don’t - he could disappear to Hyde Park or Georgia and get out of the spotlight as needed.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:46:49pm

“One is real. The other is made up.”

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:47:09pm

Ooh, Bern.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:47:16pm

re: #362 majii

The media can’t be babbling on about Clinton’s affairs when the GOP just nominated a twice divorced serial adulterer, can they?

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:47:43pm

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Aaaaaaand now he’s focusing back. Impressive tempo control.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:47:44pm

re: #371 lawhawk

Thanks for the Patton Oswalt tweet. Made me laugh. PO is so right—-Pres. Clinton is a true alpha dog.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:47:50pm

re: #376 ipsos

The 1944 election is probably the poster child for the idea that a fixed presidential term isn’t always best. FDR certainly didn’t need another four years at that point, but a change in the presidency right then would have been potentially traumatic. We needed him for just a few months longer, and that’s what we got.

(And this is a man who had the luxury today’s presidents don’t - he could disappear to Hyde Park or Georgia and get out of the spotlight as needed.)

Right if we had the 22nd in 1940, who knows who takes FDR’s place as the Dem standard bearer. The irony is the Republican opponent that year wasn’t really bad of a guy on both domestics and international relations but there’s no way Willkie would have been able to handle the lead up and then start of WWII.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:48:11pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

The media can’t be babbling on about Clinton’s affairs when the GOP just nominated a twice divorced serial adulterer, can they?

Oh they will, trust me, they will.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:48:31pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

The media can’t be babbling on about Clinton’s affairs when the GOP just nominated a twice divorced serial adulterer, can they?

Of course they can.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:48:54pm

re: #369 Joe Bacon

Nope, I still think Dumbya would have been re-elected for a third term with Rove playing another round of his patented dirty tricks!

The recession would have ended his reelection.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:49:22pm

re: #385 Belafon

The recession would have ended his reelection.

I have to agree with this and Rove was nowhere near as strong as he was in 2004.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:49:24pm
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steve_davis  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:49:36pm

bill clinton crushing this. i’ve got a feeling a big chunk of this is extemperaneous, but it’s o.k., ‘cause he’s on it tonight.

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StephenMeansMe  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:49:50pm

Dang, broken clock, but…

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:49:52pm

The tremble in his hands is something I haven’t seen before.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:50:44pm

The (potential) First Dude has more policy in his speech than the capstone speech of the actual GOP nominee. Sad!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:51:12pm

re: #389 StephenMeansMe

Dang, broken clock, but…

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There’s something wrong when Erickson is one of the more serious voices in the conservative twitterspehre.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:51:24pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

Yes. They can.

Old habits die hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:51:51pm

CSPAN chyron says Tim Kaine tomorrow night.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:06pm

Beautiful. Stay here and help us win.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:33pm

re: #390 Scottishdragon

The tremble in his hands is something I haven’t seen before.

Time comes for all of us.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:33pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:42pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:44pm

Now directly addressing the Democratic Coalition. Each little part of the very big tent.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:44pm

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Right if we had the 22nd in 1940, who knows who takes FDR’s place as the Dem standard bearer. The irony is the Republican opponent that year wasn’t really bad of a guy on both domestics and international relations but there’s no way Willkie would have been able to handle the lead up and then start of WWII.

In hindsight, we got awfully lucky all around, didn’t we?

Although I quite agree that Willkie holds up much better in hindsight than he did at the time. (But then, ANY Republican of that era would be almost unrecognizable in the light of today’s politics. Even the Furby’s beloved Coolidge.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:46pm

re: #391 No Depression

The (potential) First Dude has more policy in his speech than the capstone speech of the actual GOP nominee. Sad!

He has more policy in this one speech than the whole fucking RNC convention.

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:53pm

If you are a Muslim… Wow what a stunning contrast.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:07pm

re: #397 Charles Johnson

Time comes for all of us.

He’s the same age as Trump, isn’t he?

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:19pm

This the America I know…not the hellhole of Trump’s Back to the Future Part Two casino nightmare.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:29pm

re: #392 HappyWarrior

It’s the eventual breakup of the religious right, between groups like christo-nationalists, covenantalists (e.g., Erickson), etc.

Basically, they all want to be top-dog in their own pen, but of course they can’t all be top-dog, so they will split.

Like religions always do.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:46pm

re: #383 HappyWarrior

Oh they will, trust me, they will.

You know right now that liars Maureen Dowd, Sally Quinn and Camille Paglia are just seething as they write their latest poison pen letters!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:50pm

re: #397 Charles Johnson

Time comes for all of us.

I have been finding that out to my chagrin.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:51pm

Aaaand, under an hour. I’m surprised. But a great speech IMHO.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:56pm

Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:05pm

Oy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:17pm

re: #401 ipsos

In hindsight, we got awfully lucky all around, didn’t we?

Although I quite agree that Willkie holds up much better in hindsight than he did at the time. (But then, ANY Republican of that era would be almost unrecognizable in the light of today’s politics. Even the Furby’s beloved Coolidge.)

Yeah we did. We really did. Just like that one term really tall guy form Illinois in 1860.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:41pm

re: #404 ipsos

He’s the same age as Trump, isn’t he?

Yes, but he’s a two-term President. It’s been established time and again that job ages a person beyond belief.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:46pm

re: #397 Charles Johnson

Time comes for all of us.

True, but he’s still sharp as a tack and is still a powerful, persuasive orator.

Thank goodness he hasn’t lost that.

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(alpuz)  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:49pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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The 100 Greatest Movie Threats of All Time

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:54:58pm

Hey.

If Dean could give us a reprise of the Scream (almost)… can’t Bubba toss us a winking “And in conclusion…” to wrap it up?

////

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:55:08pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:55:14pm

I feel so sorry for the people following Bill.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:55:18pm

re: #385 Belafon

“The recession would have ended his reelection.”

Most GOPers would have voted for him in a heartbeat, I think. Based on some polls I’ve seen, articles I’ve read, and commentary I’ve watched, they think Pres. Obama signed the TARP bill into law, and that the economic recovery is the result of “W” and Cheney’s work. Steve Benen had a post last week that contained quotes from GOP convention-goers about the economy. Those who were interviewed admit that the economy is much better, but they give credit to the last administration. I’ve oftentimes wondered if they really believe these things, or is it that they’ve heard Fox News and RW media outlets lie about them so much that they believe them? It’s frustrating as hell listening to them lie to themselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:55:27pm

lol, “Pitch Perfect”…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:27pm

Fight Song is not a very good fight song.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:42pm

re: #418 Ziggy_TARDIS

I feel so sorry for the people following Bill.

Nah, they’ll be fine. He was very focused on the things that only he can talk about. We have POTUS tomorrow night.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:57pm

re: #418 Ziggy_TARDIS

I feel so sorry for the people following Bill.

Didn’t we all say that about Michelle last night?

Hell of a bench here - Barack and Tim Kaine tomorrow, and then Hillary on Thursday. Beats the crap outta Duck Dynasty.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:57:12pm

I won’t ever truly like Bill Clinton, but I have to acknowledge that he’s a great speaker. When he’s being sincere, he’s brilliant.

I kind of enjoyed Storytime. And politically, it was very smart to paint a portrait of Hillary’s life in speech form.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:57:31pm

re: #422 JasonA

Nah, they’ll be fine. He was very focused on the things that only he can talk about. We have POTUS tomorrow night.

I’m looking forward to Kaine’s speech. You know damn well he’s going to show his ability to speak fluent Spanish off.

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:57:43pm

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Yeah we did. We really did. Just like that one term really tall guy form Illinois in 1860.

He got re-elected.

(Just not for long.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:57:51pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

Well my Windows 10 upgrade is stuck at 99%. Now I find out that is a problem. I will let it sit like that overnight and if it’s still stuck in the morning I will have to stop the upgrade and delete the temp files.

Got stuck at that point over several tries. The breakthrough was when I found my valid copy of Win7 had not been updated for a long time. (Machine is Ubuntu dual-boot.) When I spent an afternoon upgrading Win7, the move to 10 was fairly straightforward.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:58:29pm

And with that, President Clinton ends his speech. It’s incredibly short by his standards for DNC speeches.

It hit all the right notes. Showed Hillary’s dedication to helping others, their strong relationship and family despite ups and downs. Working across the aisle with the likes of Delay.

She was the driver for his rise to the White House. Now he’s showing everyone that behind every strong man is a stronger woman.

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compound_Idaho  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:58:39pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure a lot of the journalists I’m seeing snarking about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski haven’t had perfect relationships themselves.

You have to be kidding me. What Bill and Monica did was textbook hostile working environment. The word is out. Have a “cigar” with the boss, you might get a little more attention. How far will you advance if you keep it stickily business? What a terrible place to work if you know the boss is having a smoke with the other girls in the office.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:02pm

re: #411 MsJ

Sure he “hates to say it” because he’s so darned humble, right?

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:20pm

Def how you get Bernies supporters. Definitely.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:22pm

re: #426 ipsos

He got re-elected.

(Just not for long.)

I know, was thinking more about how we’ve been fortunate as a nation to have leaders like those two. I;ve always liked Abe but reading Team of Rivals made me into a huge fan.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:22pm

Apparently, the protesters outside the DNC are fighting each other now.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:24pm

FUCK YOU BRET BAIER. IT’S THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, NOT DEMOCRAT PARTY.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:26pm

re: #419 majii

The recession was bad enough, though, that 9/11 and Iraq were no longer going to save him. Yes, he would have gotten the reliable Republican votes, but McCain got those anyway.

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W of O. The Time Zone Warrior.  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:35pm

There’s your American flag boys!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:46pm

re: #411 MsJ

Oy.

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Comical.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:47pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

Oh, look…here comes someone from the Debbie Downer brigade:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:00:13pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

Fuck you.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:00:23pm

Wait, there are more speakers? Why are there more speakers tonight?

It’s over. Go home.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:00:28pm

welp I guess we can all pack it in. Steve Schmidt didn;t like Bill’s speech. Dayum. Oh well, here’s Meryl Streep, so such it Steve.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:00:55pm

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Dang it! Have to go to bed now😞. Wasn’t expecting other speakers after Bill.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:01pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

I agree that there was a work-place element to the problem of Clinton with Lewinsky.

HOWEVER, there is no evidence that any other woman in his circle of workers was ever involved as such with Clinton while he was President.

None whatsoever.

So it doesn’t fly that there was any sort of systemic issue while Bill was in the Oval Office.

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(alpuz)  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:07pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

What are you trying to say?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:37pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:39pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

Your remarks more accurately apply to Roger Ailes.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:55pm

re: #443 freetoken

I agree that there was a work-place element to the problem of Clinton with Lewinsky.

HOWEVER, there is no evidence that any other woman in his circle of workers was ever involved as such with Clinton while he was President.

None whatsoever.

So it doesn’t fly that there was any sort of systemic issue while Bill was in the Oval Office.

Unlike, say, Fox News.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:01:59pm

re: #406 freetoken

Erickson helped build the infrastructure that made Trump’s rise to the top of the GOP possible. As I’ve mentioned before, he was a member of the Macon, GA City Council. He and I live in the same city, and many GOPers here don’t like him, can’t stand him. He was as much a douchecanoe here in Macon as he’s been since he became nationally known. The guy never saw a lie he wouldn’t support if someone on the right was peddling it. He wasn’t thinking about how he was ruining the party while he was doing it and now has the nerve to act as if what’s happening is a big surprise to him. Uh, uh, nope. I’m not buying it. My thing is this—— if one claims to be a decent person, one is ,and should always, behave like a decent person.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:13pm

re: #444 “LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!”

What are you trying to say?

That he/she will never vote for Bill again.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:24pm

re: #445 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Strange thing, isn’t it, to actually agree with Erick, Son of Erick?

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:42pm

re: #450 TedStriker

Strange thing, isn’t it, to actually agree with Erick, Son of Eric?

Stopped clock, etc., etc.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:42pm
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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:58pm

Fox News is like where wuz teh anecdotes?. Ummm there were way more anecdotes in Bill’s speech than Melania’s.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:03:12pm

re: #450 TedStriker

Strange thing, isn’t it, to actually agree with Erick, Son of Erick?

I know. And I hate myself. I feel…dirty.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:03:27pm
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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:03:33pm

re: #452 Lidane

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And the flags behind her.

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:03:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:03:58pm

re: #433 Ziggy_TARDIS

Apparently, the protesters outside the DNC are fighting each other now.

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LOL

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:04:07pm

re: #450 TedStriker

Strange thing, isn’t it, to actually agree with Erick, Son of Eric?

I think Erick’s real problem is that Trump is really burning down the ‘family values’ lie.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:04:47pm

re: #453 No Depression

Fox News is like where wuz teh anecdotes?. Ummm there were way more anecdotes in Bill’s speech than Melania’s.

The early part of the speech was nothing but anecdotes. I know that FNC likes to insult the intelligence of its viewers. but come on man.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:04:48pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

BZZZZTTTTT!!!! WRONG!!!! But hey, thanks for playing, and please accept this copy of our home game!

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:23pm

re: #457 Tigger2

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Nah I’ll assume it’s a leftist until I see evidence otherwise. Occam’s Razor.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:23pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:37pm
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:51pm

re: #433 Ziggy_TARDIS

Apparently, the protesters outside the DNC are fighting each other now.

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That was funny. Looked like a bunch of white kids trying to imitate a rap video.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:53pm

re: #463 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Cuban loves trolling Trump doesn’t he?

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:06:20pm
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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:07:31pm

re: #448 majii

I noted the passing of Tim LaHaye earlier today.

It was LaHaye, and a few others, who built the inner circle of the religious right that got into the inside of the GOP, and first won big with their positioning of Ronald Reagan.

Son of Erick is a late-comer to the movement, and mostly has profited by it. Literally, by selling out to Salem Communications.

This I suspect is what will undo the religious right in this country (besides just dying off) - fratricide, just like in so many religious denominations in the past.

Because each one believes his dogma is the one True Truth, each male (and it is mostly males) in the religious right today is finding their own cult following. Note how Beck is at odds with so many, and Erickson, and others. Franklin Graham is going with Drumpfskind purely out of the marketing his name, I suppose, same as Falwell’s son.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:07:40pm

re: #452 Lidane

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thedopefishlives  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:07:40pm

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Cuban loves trolling Trump doesn’t he?

Who doesn’t?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:07:42pm

heh

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:08:43pm

re: #459 jaunte

I think Erick’s real problem is that Trump is really burning down the ‘family values’ lie.

And that even the most craven hateful social conservatives see the huckster trump is.

Some see it so clear. 45% of America just needs a stupid hero.

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:08:45pm

re: #462 No Depression

Nah I’ll assume it’s a leftist until I see evidence otherwise. Occam’s Razor.

I’ll just assume it’s some of Trumps White Supremacist or Neo Nazis.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:08:52pm

re: #445 Eric The Fruit Bat

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I never ever thought that I would upding a tweet done by Erick son of Erick

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:09:11pm

re: #470 thedopefishlives

Who doesn’t?!

IT’s a leansat surprise from someone who I normally don’t like taht much.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:09:59pm

Newt Gingrich just called Hillary the “most corrupt” candidate in history on the 2-hour edition of the Hannity Inanity Hour. Uhhh you might want to look at your guy first.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:10:23pm

re: #411 MsJ

I didn’t learn a d*mn thing from looking at his set, and nothing from listening to the has-beens he chose to speak at the GOP convention. He had promised he’d have a 1st Class convention, but he served the nation sh*t on toast and tried to tell us it was chipped beef and gravy. It has ot chap his *ss that Day 1 of our convention had higher viewership than his Day1. The great line-up we have in Philly is making him sick to his stomach because it’s A List all the way, and he knows it. Dude couldn’t get one high-level GOPer to come to Cleveland and speak on his behalf—no former president, VP, Sec. of State, Sec. of Defense, etc. while we have all of our former presidents on the schedule even though Pres. Carter will speak via video and a stellar line up from Hollywood.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:10:38pm

re: #476 No Depression

Newt Gingrich just called Hillary the “most corrupt” candidate in history on the 2-hour edition of the Hannity Inanity Hour. Uhhh you might want to look at your guy first.

It’s a 2 dimensional comic.

Loved that line.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:10:56pm

re: #459 jaunte

I think Erick’s real problem is that Trump is really burning down the ‘family values’ lie.

I think you’re right about that. Trump makes the family values stuff really hard to push.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:10:57pm

Low energy!

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:04pm

I see compound_Idaho thinks Hillary will be the second coming of Hitler.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:13pm
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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:17pm

re: #480 jaunte

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Low energy!

Sad!!

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:46pm

re: #476 No Depression

Newt Gingrich just called Hillary the “most corrupt” candidate in history on the 2-hour edition of the Hannity Inanity Hour. Uhhh you might want to look at your guy first.

BULLSHIT, NEWT!

Newt is so slimy and sleazy he makes Hillary look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:51pm

re: #465 Belafon

Macklemore, they are not.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:12:28pm

re: #480 jaunte

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Low energy!

Sad!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:12:35pm

re: #476 No Depression

Newt Gingrich just called Hillary the “most corrupt” candidate in history on the 2-hour edition of the Hannity Inanity Hour. Uhhh you might want to look at your guy first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:12:55pm

Hillary!!!!!!

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:12:56pm

re: #483 ipsos

Jinx!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:13:32pm

She is on screen!

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:14:09pm

re: #429 compound_Idaho

You aren’t mad that you didn’t “get” any, are you? Sure sounds like it. You’re whining like a stuck pig.

I apologize to the regulars. I just couldn’t help asking.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:14:25pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:14:45pm

Whoooohoooo!!!

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:14:53pm

re: #476 No Depression

Newt Gingrich just called Hillary the “most corrupt” candidate in history on the 2-hour edition of the Hannity Inanity Hour. Uhhh you might want to look at your guy first.

Uh…wasn’t Newt himself a candidate 4 years ago?

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:15:42pm

That minute you realize texting with a writer means up yer game. Heh LWC lurks and lurks.

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W of O. The Time Zone Warrior.  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:15:46pm

Guys, that was fun again but the Time Zone Warrior is about to sign off.

Everyone, good night and see you all tomorrow!

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:15:55pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:16:17pm

I loved the different shots around the hall of people from every part of America. Muslim women, African Americans, Latinos…

Not at all like the GOP last week.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:16:35pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:17:49pm
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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:18:04pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:02pm

I’m not gonna lie, if I was a delegate, I likely would have been the jackass that said Nay. :P

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:29pm

re: #502 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m not gonna lie, if I was a delegate, I likely would have been the jackass that said Nay. :P

To what? Sorry my feed died.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:48pm

It is so much more fun, uplifting and just feelgood watching this, compared to all of the fear, doom and gloom we saw last week.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:50pm

re: #502 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m not gonna lie, if I was a delegate, I likely would have been the jackass that said Nay. :P

All in Favour

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:50pm

Nothing like a little Bill Clinton to bring out people’s true feelings.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:20:10pm

re: #498 Scottishdragon

I loved the different shots around the hall of people from every part of America. Muslim women, African Americans, Latinos…

Not at all like the GOP last week.

Well, it was real hard to do at the RNC since almost everyone there was lily-white…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:05pm

re: #507 TedStriker

Well, it’s was real hard to do at the RNC since almost everyone there was lily-white…

I’m certain the ones that weren’t, were at least housed and fed….

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:09pm

re: #503 HappyWarrior

At the end asking if the convention could adjourn until 430pm EST tomorrow.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:17pm

Getting late. Probably gonna call it soon.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:35pm

re: #507 TedStriker

Well, it’s was real hard to do at the RNC since almost everyone there was lily-white…

Here’s the thing. The GOP was getting a big pat on the back for having elected its first African-American woman to Congress last year. The Democrats not only have plenty of African-American women in Congress, they have African-American women who are leaders in their party. The GOP’s lack of diversity is going to bite it in the ass one day.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:44pm

re: #509 Ziggy_TARDIS

At the end asking if the convention could adjourn until 430pm EST tomorrow.

Ah ha okay.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:16pm

re: #507 TedStriker

Well, it’s was real hard to do at the RNC since almost everyone there was lily-white…

I’m just going to post this again…

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ipsos  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:17pm

re: #509 Ziggy_TARDIS

At the end asking if the convention could adjourn until 430pm EST tomorrow.

EDT.

/pickypickypicky

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:24pm

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Here’s the thing. The GOP was getting a big pat on the back for having elected its first African-American woman to Congress last year. The Democrats not only have plenty of African-American women in Congress, they have African-American women who are leaders in their party. The GOP’s lack of diversity is going to bite it in the ass one day.

Hopefully this year…it’s already started with Donna Brazile becoming interim DNC chair.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:40pm

re: #498 Scottishdragon

I loved the different shots around the hall of people from every part of America. Muslim women, African Americans, Latinos…

Not at all like the GOP last week.

There was a tweet earlier that said the Democrats had more black speakers on Monday than Republicans had black delegates.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:23:48pm

re: #515 TedStriker

Hopefully this year.

It did in 2008 and 2012. We’ll just have to see if us whites won’t screw it up too much this year.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:23:55pm

re: #516 Belafon

There was a tweet earlier that said the Democrats had more black speakers on Monday than Republicans had black delegates.

Yep Jason just reposted it. It’s not just racial diversity. It’s the kind of people that have spoken too.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:24:43pm

I’m pretty sure the answer to that is “a country without an extradition treaty with the United States”, Keith.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:24:51pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:24:52pm

re: #514 ipsos

Thanks for informing me of that.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:24:56pm

An oldie but goodie:

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:25:27pm
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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:00pm

It isn’t healthy for our nation that people of color do not have an alternative to the Democratic Party, and I say that as a lifelong Democrat.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:06pm

re: #507 TedStriker

“Well, it was real hard to do at the RNC since almost everyone there was lily-white…”

I was on the Media Matters site and read a post about Bill O’Reilly. He said that it was hard for him to see anything wrong at the GOP convention because it was just a “bunch of white people having a good time.” I guess the lack of diversity inside the GOP tent is not a problem for him.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:07pm

Haha:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:18pm

re: #522 Lidane

An oldie but goodie:

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God I would love that. The GOP is in need of a good shallacking.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:29pm

re: #522 Lidane

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We should be so lucky.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:27:02pm

re: #524 JasonA

It isn’t healthy for our nation that people of color do not have an alternative to the Democratic Party, and I say that as a lifelong Democrat.

Indeed and that’s part of what makes the GOP’s descent into madness all the more bad.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:27:19pm

“Respectable” wingnuts are going straight for the go-to with anything Clinton.

This was retweeted by doughy pantload Jonah Goldberg.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:28:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:28:40pm

re: #530 teleskiguy

“Respectable” wingnuts are going straight for the go-to with anything Clinton.

This was retweeted by doughy pantload Jonah Goldberg.

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Considerng a lot of Bill’s speech was very personal about his relationship with his wife. Doughy Panlotad isn’t going to accomplish much there. And it’s not like their attacks on Clinton worked in the 90’s either.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:28:59pm

This actually makes the difference even more stark than seeing their actual pictures.

edit: Why does Obama have a mustache?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:29:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:29:16pm

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was their granddaughter I saw with her right? I think she’s a year or so older than my niece now.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:29:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:09pm
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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:36pm
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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:39pm

re: #526 Lidane

A multi-Oscar winner and $75 million net worth actor versus a has-been Chaici who is worth approximately $3.5 million. No contest.

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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:55pm

re: #533 JasonA

This actually makes the difference even more stark than seeing their actual pictures.

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In fairness, the one directly above Hillary should be a slightly younger white male as that was JFK

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:59pm

re: #533 JasonA

This actually makes the difference even more stark than seeing their actual pictures.

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Indeed, in the past eight years, we truly are able to tell so many more kids they too could be President. That’s something that didn’t actually exist when I was a kid but it is going to be a fact of my niece’s childhood. It’s why I just have to scoff a little when Clinton and Obama are brushed off as status quo by supporters of other white guys.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:31:17pm

To think that during the Bush years I looked forward to Jonah Goldberg’s column in my local newspaper in Steamboat Springs, CO. They even published Ann Coulter for a time, and I read ‘em, and in those days it kind of made sense.

Now? We’re facing totalitarianism down. I can’t wait to vote for Hillary.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:31:38pm

The following tweet is brought to you by a Washington insider:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:32:54pm

re: #543 JasonA

The following tweet is brought to you by a Washington insider:

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Yes and someone who relies on conservative right wing Washington insiders to keep his ideologically bankrupt party afloat.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:33:48pm

Shoot me now. Jeffrey Lord is upset that they didn’t include Sarah Palin when talking about successful women tonight. This is the level of our political discourse. THIS is CNN

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:35:04pm

What’s behind Andrea Mitchell’s distaste for the Clintons?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:35:08pm
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:35:08pm

re: #545 BeachDem

Shoot me now. Jeffrey Lord is upset that they didn’t include Sarah Palin when talking about successful women tonight. This is the level of our political discourse. THIS is CNN

“And now, for women who successfully quit: Sarah Palin.” Flips through pages. “Yep, that’s it.”

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:35:49pm

re: #545 BeachDem

Shoot me now. Jeffrey Lord is upset that they didn’t include Sarah Palin when talking about successful women tonight. This is the level of our political discourse. THIS is CNN

Failing to become VP is now success?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:35:58pm

re: #545 BeachDem

Remind me again what Palin has been succesful with??

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:36:06pm

re: #542 teleskiguy

To think that during the Bush years I looked forward to Jonah Goldberg’s column in my local newspaper in Steamboat Springs, CO. They even published Ann Coulter for a time, and I read ‘em, and in those days it kind of made sense.

Now? We’re facing totalitarianism down. I can’t wait to vote for Hillary.

Goldberg blamed the MSM for GOP voters selecting Trump today.

I still can’t figure out his reasoning. Something about MSM being mean to the GOP and he was huffing aromatic hydrocarbons and had to get something in print by deadline.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:36:13pm

re: #545 BeachDem

Shoot me now. Jeffrey Lord is upset that they didn’t include Sarah Palin when talking about successful women tonight. This is the level of our political discourse. THIS is CNN

This is the same man who bitched about the Democrats not apologizing for slavery when Kaine in fact did apologize for it while mayor of the CSA’s former capital city no less. As for Palin, why? Because Palin has said so many nice things about Democratic women over teh years? Because Palin has been so gracious. And i got news for Jeffrey, Palin wasn’t groundbreaking, she was a cynical attempt by McCain’s team to take advantage of women who were disappointed that Hillary lost in 2008 and it thankfully failed because Democratic women aren’t stupid.

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:36:35pm

re: #333 Tigger2

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I expect incoming flak.

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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:14pm

re: #551 Scottishdragon

Goldberg blamed the MSM for GOP voters selecting Trump today.

I still can’t figure out his reasoning. Something about MSM being mean to the GOP and he was huffing aromatic hydrocarbons and had to get something in print by deadline.

I read that and immediately thought “Bill Goldberg?”

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Scottishdragon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:18pm

re: #550 Eclectic Cyborg

Remind me again what Palin has been succesful with??

Snark, family dysfunction and quitting halfway through a job.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:19pm

re: #529 HappyWarrior

I don’t think the GOP really wants to work on attracting more POC. I really don’t because , if it were true, they’d knock off some of the mess within the party ranks. I won’t join a political party that pretends to be servants of God but in reality is doing what I see as the devil’s work. I won’t join a political party that appears to embrace hate, racism, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, Islamophobia, and other ugly junk. No, thanks. I think that my background, having been forced to grow up under Jim Crow strongly influence my feelings about the GOP. I could see myself being a member of the GOP if the party were similar today to the way it was in the 1950s and early 1960s, before the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act were passed, but not today’s GOP. I just couldn’t. I see the party’s members mistreat so many Americans and get its jollies from doing it, and I’ll have none of that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:47pm

she is just so awful…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:48pm

re: #551 Scottishdragon

Goldberg blamed the MSM for GOP voters selecting Trump today.

I still can’t figure out his reasoning. Something about MSM being mean to the GOP and he was huffing aromatic hydrocarbons and had to get something in print by deadline.

I love it when people who are part of the MSN like Jonah act like they’re not part of it. Jonah and the shitty National Review have been egging on the kind of stuff that drove Trump to be the nominee for years now. Sure, they may have opposed Trump at the NRO but it wasn’t out of genuine decency but more fear that he made the conservative movement look bad.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:38:12pm
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JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:38:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:38:27pm

re: #553 Tigger2

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Not to mention it’s the flag of a “nation” that killed more Americans than Osama Bin Laden ever did.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:39:03pm

re: #556 majii

I don’t think the GOP really wants to work on attracting more POC. I really don’t because , if it were true, they’d knock off some of the mess within the party ranks. I won’t join a political party that pretends to be servants of God but in reality is doing what I see as the devil’s work. I won’t join a political party that appears to embrace hate, racism, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, Islamophobia, and other ugly junk. No, thanks. I think that my background, having been forced to grow up under Jim Crow strongly influence my feelings about the GOP. I could see myself being a member of the GOP if the party were similar today to the way it was in the 1950s and early 1960s, before the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act were passed, but not today’s GOP. I just couldn’t. I see the party’s members mistreat so many Americans and get its jollies from doing it, and I’ll have none of that.

If they let minorities in the party and they started winning elections, the whites might have to start admitting that minorities are as good as they are. The same reasoning the south wouldn’t let blacks actually serve in the Confederate Army.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:39:17pm

re: #557 Backwoods_Sleuth

she is just so awful…

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I know you think you’re funny Ann but you’re really not. You’re someone whose expiration date would have ended a long time ago if the media didn’t like encouraging people like you.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:39:27pm

LOL this is awesome:

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:40:57pm

re: #561 HappyWarrior

Not to mention it’s the flag of a “nation” that killed more Americans than Osama Bin Laden ever did.

I blocked him, after he said Obama tore the Country apart, I have no time for idiot wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:42:17pm

re: #565 Tigger2

I blocked him, after he said Obama tore the Country apart, I have no time for idiot wingnuts.

Yeah Obama tore the coutnry apart but the assholes who fired on Fort Sumter were just fighting for their rights. What an ass.

567
JasonA  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:42:23pm
568
BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:42:52pm

OK I admit I’m gettin the feels. It’s time for a woman to run the show. Especially this highly qualified woman.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:42:57pm

re: #532 HappyWarrior

“This was retweeted by doughy pantload Jonah Goldberg.”

They must live in the past because they have nothing to offer to the nation or the world. Nothing. Life has to be hell for those who choose to live in the past. What pisses me off about those like Goldberg is their selective forgiveness. They’re quick to forgive members of their party, but they hold lifelong grudges against their political opponents who have committed the same offenses. If there were any truth among them, Newt Gingrich wouldn’t be a leading voice in their party, but he is. Look at how many of them wrote letters to the judge in an attempt to keep Dennis Hastert from going to prison. If you ask them, they allege to hate child molesters, but if a child molester is one of their own, they’ll cover for him/her.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:43:07pm

re: #546 jaunte

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What’s behind Andrea Mitchell’s distaste for the Clintons?

Somehow the press didn’t make the money they wanted off the Clinton’s.

That’s all I’ve got.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:43:44pm

re: #548 Belafon

What was she first at? Second female VP candidate; First woman to quit as governor half way into her term? Maybe first psychopathic moron word salad shooter on a major party ticket. Hey Donald, you’re #2, you’re the shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:43:56pm

heh

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:45:32pm

re: #569 majii

“This was retweeted by doughy pantload Jonah Goldberg.”

They must live in the past because they have nothing to offer to the nation or the world. Nothing. Life has to be hell for those who choose to live in the past. What pisses me off about those like Goldberg is their selective forgiveness. They’re quick to forgive members of their party, but they hold lifelong grudges against their political opponents who have committed the same offenses. If there were any truth among them, Newt Gingrich wouldn’t be a leading voice in their party, but he is. Look at how many of them wrote letters to the judge in an attempt to keep Dennis Hastert from going to prison. If you ask them, they allege to hate child molesters, but if a child molester is one of their own, they’ll cover for him/her.

Their whole thing is personal responsibility until one of them fuck up and then it’s “Please pray for my family in this difficult time.” And you know what, I could take it if they weren”t so self righteous in judging others. Gingrich calls Clinton immoral all the while he’s cheated on a cancer stricken wife. Hastert, I don’t even know what ot say about that sick fuck.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:45:46pm

re: #546 jaunte

“What’s behind Andrea Mitchell’s distaste for the Clintons?”

Jealousy? Andrea knows she’ll never reach the level of success that HRC has reached, and she’s probably wondering why millions of Americans like HRC. Just saying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:46:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:46:56pm

Wow.

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:49:13pm

re: #576 Charles Johnson

Wow.

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No, but maybe they did it themselves, as “blowback” from their planned “Fart-In”??

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:49:26pm

re: #576 Charles Johnson

Wow.

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The wit and wisdom of someone who also thought it was funny to mock 9/11 widows 12 years ago too. Coulter’s a disgusting person. It really says a lot about the right that she’s still treated by them as a legitimate voice. She can say all the hateful shit she wants but it amazes me how little blowback she gets from it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:50:57pm

The reaction on MSNBC was jarring. Rachel was shocked that the first part of the speech was so ‘non-feminist’, and Nicole Wallace agreed. OTOH, Andrea Mitchell liked it.

It seems to me that it may be that younger women don’t really connect with what it was like for women of the early Baby Boom and before. I mean Rachel, brilliant as she is, if she were 20 years older, would have been lucky to get a job in print journalism, and Nicole Wallace would have had to start out fetching the coffee for the guys.

This is not to demean them, but they were in high school when Hillary Clinton was being pilloried for having her own career while her husband was Governor.

Someone said, earlier, on another channel, that millenial women don’t connect to what women a mere decade or two older went through. When I see tears in the eyes of women 50 and up at the nomination of the first woman from a major party, I kinda feel like younger women really take that for granted. I think maybe I felt more excitement about it than they do.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:50:57pm

re: #520 MsJ

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I’m so sick of Rachel’s disappointed Bernie supporter hypercritical bullshit.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:51:07pm

re: #557 Backwoods_Sleuth

she is just so awful…

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She must be promoting her new line of action figures:

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:07pm

re: #556 majii

I don’t think the GOP really wants to work on attracting more POC. I really don’t because , if it were true, they’d knock off some of the mess within the party ranks. I won’t join a political party that pretends to be servants of God but in reality is doing what I see as the devil’s work. I won’t join a political party that appears to embrace hate, racism, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, Islamophobia, and other ugly junk. No, thanks. I think that my background, having been forced to grow up under Jim Crow strongly influence my feelings about the GOP. I could see myself being a member of the GOP if the party were similar today to the way it was in the 1950s and early 1960s, before the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act were passed, but not today’s GOP. I just couldn’t. I see the party’s members mistreat so many Americans and get its jollies from doing it, and I’ll have none of that.

They can’t. If they did theyd lose the 30% who always vote GOP. Those folks love their bashing of The Other. Trump would be nowhere without them.

583
majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:29pm

re: #578 HappyWarrior

I understand why Leslie Jones threw serious shade at Coulter and forced Coulter to leave the area where Jones and Wilmore were seated. She thinks her sh*t doesn’t stink, but it stinks to high heaven. Who in their right mind would make a WWII concentration camp gas chamber joke on social media and think it’s funny? No one else except Ann Coulter.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:35pm

re: #550 Eclectic Cyborg

Remind me again what Palin has been succesful with??

Grifting.

Supporting her family with said grift. But it they are in a recession, soon to be a depression.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:53:24pm

re: #580 goddamnedfrank

I’m so sick of Rachel’s disappointed Bernie supporter hypercritical bullshit.

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I honestly don’t get what Bernie has done to deserve so much adulation. He’s far from the first person to talk a big game. I’m sorry but I prefer people who have actually done a lot in their careers. I learned a lot about what Clinton accomplished before she even became Bill’s wife.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:53:45pm

re: #558 HappyWarrior

I love it when people who are part of the MSN like Jonah act like they’re not part of it. Jonah and the shitty National Review have been egging on the kind of stuff that drove Trump to be the nominee for years now. Sure, they may have opposed Trump at the NRO but it wasn’t out of genuine decency but more fear that he made the conservative movement look bad.

Exactly. And why do people think the media “is in the tank for Clinton”? Because he, and all his peers, have been screaming it from the rafters for a couple of decades.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:54:06pm

re: #576 Charles Johnson

I’m just… did she really… wow.

588
HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:54:57pm

re: #583 majii

I understand why Leslie Jones threw serious shade at Coulter and forced Coulter to leave the area where Jones and Wilmore were seated. She thinks her sh*t doesn’t stink, but it stinks to high heaven. Who in their right mind would make a WWII concentration camp gas chamber joke on social media and think it’s funny? No one else except Ann Coulter.

It’s just sick is what it is. Coulter thinks she’s funny as hell but she’s actually a very sick individual. OF course, her pal Maher thinks any liberal who hates on her hates free speech. She’s free to say what she wants to without the government jailing her but she really is a nasty bitch who should be called that more often.

589
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:55:21pm
590
HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:56:57pm

re: #586 MsJ

Exactly. And why do people think the media “is in the tank for Clinton”? Because he, and all his peers, have been screaming it from the rafters for a couple of decades.

The funny thing is they whine about the MSM and then brag how popular they are. Doesn’t make any goddamn sense.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:57:36pm

re: #586 MsJ

“Exactly. And why do people think the media “is in the tank for Clinton”? Because he, and all his peers, have been screaming it from the rafters for a couple of decades.”

I think they’re jealous of those who have become successful in spite of their efforts to hold them back. They went after Pres. Clinton in the 1990s and HRC, too. The made mountains out of molehills, yet, Pres. Clinton is still very popular and well-thought of and loved by millions around the world. They also seem to think that everyone thinks the same ugly things they think about the Clintons, but we don’t.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:59:05pm

re: #579 Blind Frog Belly White

As a millennial woman, I try to understand, but I know I can’t really know.

What I can do is fight like hell to make sure we hold onto the progress that’s been made.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:00:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:01:20pm

re: #592 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As a millennial woman, I try to understand, but I know I can’t really know.

What I can do is fight like hell to make sure we hold onto the progress that’s been made.

I think trying to understand is all we can do I think so many in our generation take a lot for granted and hell maybe that’s why they get attracted to candidates who promise a lot. I don’t know. But I tell you this much I’m real proud to be part of a party that isn’t afraid to break down barriers.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:05:18pm

re: #576 Charles Johnson

Wow.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:08:09pm

re: #594 HappyWarrior

You talk quite often about your grand-mother and the things she went through in her life. What she went through is what we older women would like to impart upon the younger generation of women. It’s an important lesson to learn because as I’m sure you know, there are some in this country who would love to take away the hard-won rights older women have fought so hard to get, so it’s up to you young ones to hold and advance the line on women’s rights. I feel certain you and klys will work toward these goals, and I’ve instilled the same ideas in my daughter’s brain. We cannot go back, only forward.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:15:56pm

re: #579 Blind Frog Belly White

The reaction on MSNBC was jarring. Rachel was shocked that the first part of the speech was so ‘non-feminist’, and Nicole Wallace agreed. OTOH, Andrea Mitchell liked it.

It seems to me that it may be that younger women don’t really connect with what it was like for women of the early Baby Boom and before. I mean Rachel, brilliant as she is, if she were 20 years older, would have been lucky to get a job in print journalism, and Nicole Wallace would have had to start out fetching the coffee for the guys.

This is not to demean them, but they were in high school when Hillary Clinton was being pilloried for having her own career while her husband was Governor.

Someone said, earlier, on another channel, that millenial women don’t connect to what women a mere decade or two older went through. When I see tears in the eyes of women 50 and up at the nomination of the first woman from a major party, I kinda feel like younger women really take that for granted. I think maybe I felt more excitement about it than they do.

Rachel really pissed me off tonight. She was smug and condescending making those criticisms. And the little faces she was making was childish and frankly unprofessional. I don’t know what has happened, maybe the change in ownership but I’ve found some of the stuff she has been saying this whole election isn’t as brilliant as she may think she is. Maybe it is arrogance, maybe it is needed for the new bosses, but it isn’t good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:16:28pm

re: #592 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As a millennial woman, I try to understand, but I know I can’t really know.

What I can do is fight like hell to make sure we hold onto the progress that’s been made.

I was born at what some define as the end of the Baby Boom - certainly the end of my Mom’s own 12-year Baby Boom, so I grew up in the era of Feminism, before the era of I’m Not A Feminist, But. But I grew up as a guy. Still, I remember things, like my Mom being told by her boss that the guy a the next lab bench, with less experience and less responsibility, was paid more because “He’s got a family to support”, and this was supposed to be a perfectly reasonable state of affairs.

When I saw the first episode of Mad Men, set in 1959, it was jarring - the smoking and drinking, but mostly the way the women were treated. It took me a while to realize that it wasn’t parody, or exaggeration. That’s how it was.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:18:53pm

Looks like I just pulled a C-L!

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:20:46pm

re: #599 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks like I just pulled a C-L!

I know I wanted to comment on some of the comments since I was not able to hang during the evening due to many computer issues that hit me.

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meteor  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:10:07am

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Lots of dumb young alt-right types who do not know that he did. I get into fights with them on other boards all the time.

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meteor  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:18:44am

re: #576 Charles Johnson

She’s on crack.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:00:14am

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