Notorious Ex-Congressman Sexual Harasser Mark Foley Seated Behind Trump in Florida

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Seated in a prominent spot behind Donald Trump at his rally in Florida tonight: ex-Congressman Mark Foley, who was forced to resign in disgrace after it emerged that he had been sexually harassing male teenage Congressional pages.

This comes right after Trump bashed Hillary Clinton for the appearance of the father of Pulse night club shooter Omar Mateen at her rally:

“Wasn’t it terrible when the father of the animal that killed the wonderful people in Orlando was sitting with a big smile on his face right behind Hillary Clinton? And by the way … a lot of the people here — how many of you people know me? A lot of you people know me,” Trump said, addressing the crowd behind him as Foley raised his hand.

“When you get those seats you sort of know the campaign, so when she said well we didn’t knew, he knew, they knew.”

So did the Trump campaign know that a notorious sexual harasser of teenage boys was seated right behind him? According to his own words… “he knew, they knew.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:34:07pm

LAst I Saw the elder MAteen didn’t commit a crime. Enough of this guilt by association crap.

2
Shazam  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:35:29pm

I believe the words you’re looking for, Mr. Trump, are “stranger danger.”

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bratwurst  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:40:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:43:16pm

re: #3 bratwurst

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Tammy Duckworth reminded him of that.

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lockjawcanbefun  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:46:28pm

Name like Aaron Driver? Obviously not a real terrorist.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:54:10pm

news from alt-universe:

Full article title: Sen. Jeff Sessions Highlights 20 ‘Vetted’ Terrorist Refugees as Obama Ramps Up Admissions from Terror Hot-Spots The Obama Administration’s ongoing effort to admit tens of thousands of refugees from Syria
not-so-breitbart


No one is saying, yet, that terrorists are ready to attack American churches the way they have in the Middle East or, more recently, against the Rev. Jacques Hamel in France. But as Fox News reports, the threats are already looming.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:55:21pm
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Skandal  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:55:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:57:58pm

First hit

Yes, it’s what you think

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:59:21pm
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Anymouse  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:05:50pm

Off to bed … I am getting old or something… .

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Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:08:46pm

Did they play this song at the rally in honor of Mark Foley?

Karen Young - Bring On The Boys (12” Jim Burgess Mix)

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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:09:13pm

Their sneaking up on a possible second ship:

Camera 1: Okeanos Explorer: Deepwater Wonders of Wake

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:12:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:12:47pm
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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:14:23pm
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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:19:09pm

re: #13 freetoken

So… it was a rock… not the wreck for which they were hoping.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:22:58pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:34:08pm

Foley at earlier Trump after-party. Prince Rebus now in corner drinking lye.

Jim Acosta ‏@Acosta 2h2 hours ago

Yes Mark Foley was here tonight. But we also spotted him at Trump party after Florida primary victory.
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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:37:33pm

Probably 1/3 of cop problems are those who fuck up somewhere, get hired somewhere else. No check. No giving a fuck.

I really wonder the personality of those who want to be a cop. Authoritarian, asshole, dude in HS who was an asshole. Major prob. The recruiters fit this description, so zero objectivity.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:43:05pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:47:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:54:22pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:56:16pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I think it will. Horse race & all that shit.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:57:21pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I think it will. Horse race & all that shit.

PLUS trump’s talking about the crowd behind him while Foley cheers. Prime video.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:58:16pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I think it will. Horse race & all that shit.

Rebecca Savransky / The Hill:
Former Florida Rep. Mark Foley sits behind Trump at rally … Former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) on Wednesday sat behind Donald Trump — at the GOP nominee’s rally in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. — Foley resigned from his position in 2006 amid allegations that he had sent sexual emails and messages …
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Discussion: Little Green Footballs, Sun-Sentinel, twitchy.com, Mediaite and The Gateway Pundit

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:01:00pm

And we had to blow up the Kingdome and build these fuckers a new baseball park:

Seattle Mariners staffer harasses lesbian couple for being too ‘affectionate’ at baseball game

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:01:21pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:13:15pm

FUCK THIS HORSE RACE BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT! AAAAAAARGH!

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Great White Snark  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:21:44pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

Probably 1/3 of cop problems are those who fuck up somewhere, get hired somewhere else. No check. No giving a fuck.

I really wonder the personality of those who want to be a cop. Authoritarian, asshole, dude in HS who was an asshole. Major prob. The recruiters fit this description, so zero objectivity.

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And I’m gonna guess not an accredited or experienced instructor for that kind of training. At a little risk of TMI so sorry in advance?

That kind of hands on real gun training, not aimed at a range but pointing at each other... exists but at a very high level of student and instructor. What everyone else does is to use a fake gun. It’s as simple as buy a bb gun. Or buy a training device that can’t be loaded for real but operates like real for handling. Very frustrating to me that this new active shooter training thing has gone sideways already. There are schools that have been teaching this exact stuff for decades without accidents like that.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:21:46pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:26:28pm

re: #30 Great White Snark

And I’m gonna guess not an accredited or experienced instructor for that kind of training. At a little risk of TMI so sorry in advance?

That kind of hands on real gun training, not aimed at a range but pointing at each other... exists but at a very high level of student and instructor. What everyone else does is to use a fake gun. It’s as simple as buy a bb gun. Or buy a training device that can’t be loaded for real but operates like real for handling. Very frustrating to me that this new active shooter training thing has gone sideways already. There are schools that have been teaching this exact stuff for decades without accidents like that.

Yeah, why did they need the bang bang using blanks???? Just point the thing.

That’s what is lost. Just pointing a gun is a very intense situ. As has been taught before.

No, we need to add sound effects or something.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:30:40pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:37:24pm
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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:44:46pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

LAst I Saw the elder MAteen didn’t commit a crime. Enough of this guilt by association crap.

It’s the old corruption of blood angle. Only usually that works down the family tree not up.

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whitebeach  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:46:02pm

re: #34 Dave In Austin

Good Christ, that’s one of the most powerful, maybe the most powerful comment on this whole thing that anyone could make or imagine. Wonder which of the “news” channels will be opening with this tomorrow. If any.

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TedStriker  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:47:58pm

re: #35 KGxvi

It’s the old corruption of blood angle. Only usually that works down the family tree not up.

Instead of “sins of the father”, it’s now “sins of the son” when it benefits the Trumpians.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:50:08pm

re: #37 TedStriker

Instead of “sins of the father”, it’s now “sins of the son” when it benefits the Trumpians.

I’m also guessing the whole “non-WASP name, likely non-Christian, immigrant, and not white” grand slam helps them get there too.

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:50:30pm
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MsJ  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:54:47pm

Jesus Christ.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:56:10pm

re: #36 whitebeach

Good Christ, that’s one of the most powerful, maybe the most powerful comment on this whole thing that anyone could make or imagine. Wonder which of the “news” channels will be opening with this tomorrow. If any.

I’ve shipped it off to those that can. That’s all I can do.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:57:19pm

re: #34 Dave In Austin

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Well, we know what story Morning Joke WON’T start his propaganda shift with!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:04:07pm

re: #42 Joe Bacon

Well, we know what story Morning Joke WON’T start his propaganda shift with!

I thought he had a good op-ed this morning, But just when you think there will be something positive come of it his inner douche bag comes out. Mika is genuinely pissed on all this. I sure you heard the “Shut up, your a Democrat stuff this morning. To a degree, he’s correct. It sounds better coming from a conservative. That said, Joke won’t support him and know he’s a danger to the country.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:33:47pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:49:59pm

Redmond rides again:

Microsoft Secure Boot key debacle causes security panic
Security failures have created “golden keys” which unlock Windows devices protected by Secure Boot.

Microsoft has accidentally leaked the keys to the kingdom, permitting attackers to unlock devices protected by Secure Boot — and it may not be possible to fully resolve the leak.The design flaw in the Windows operating system can be used to unlock Windows devices, including smartphones and tablets, which are otherwise protected by Secure Boot in order to run operating systems other than Windows on locked down systems.This, in turn, allows someone with admin rights or an attacker with physical access to a machine not only to bypass Secure Boot and run any operating system they wish, such as Linux or Android, but also permits the installation and execution of bootkit and rootkits at the deepest level of the device, security researchers MY123 and Slipstream revealed in a blog post on Tuesday
…..
“You can see the irony. Also the irony in that MS themselves provided us several nice “golden keys” (as the FBI would say ;) for us to use for that purpose,” the researchers write.

“About the FBI: are you reading this? If you are, then this is a perfect real world example about why your idea of backdooring cryptosystems with a “secure golden key” is very bad!,” the team added. “Microsoft implemented a “secure golden key” system. And the golden keys got released from MS[’s] own stupidity.”….

Remember when Tim Cook was a traitor for telling the FBI to get bent? Good times….

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:03:04pm

Did I do it right? What the fuck am doing here anyway?

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:04:21pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

All I want to do is go skiing with Lindsey Vonn. I’m pretty sure I could hold my own with a freeheel. I can dream, can’t I?

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:04:52pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

All I want to do is go skiing with Lindsey Vonn. I’m pretty sure I could hold my own with a freeheel. I can dream, can’t I?

Yes. We all can dream!

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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:18:16pm

Schnittke: Requiem

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:20:08pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

All I want to do is go skiing with Lindsey Vonn. I’m pretty sure I could hold my own with a freeheel. I can dream, can’t I?

Stick your finger in your ear and roll your tongue back into your face young man…..

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:29:33pm

I knew there was something but I couldn’t put my finger on it…..

Heh heh……. He said Ass…

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:36:52pm
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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:39:12pm

It looks like a couple of my Facebook friends are still Drumpfskind supporters.

Relatives (or by marriage), it is hard to just let them go.

Thing is, they are not necessarily terrible people by any usual means of evaluating personal interactions.

They’ve just bought into the decades long anti-Clinton propaganda, anti-“Liberal” propaganda a la Faux News, etc.

I don’t know how to dislodge them from their errors. They just don’t respond to arguments.

This is an example of how people make decisions not on intellectual arguments but rather emotional reactions. Programed reactions after years of being trained like Pavlov’s dogs.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:43:38pm

re: #53 freetoken

I only kick out the toxic ones that burst cursing into my feeds. In the same vain, I keep it to myself on someone else’s turf.

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Archangelus  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:45:11pm

“Good news everyone!”

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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:45:49pm

Bigotry and hatred takes different names in different cultures:

BJP condemns attacks on Dalit community

[…]

The most recent incident of violence against Dalits was reported on Monday, when two brothers, who were hired to skin a cow that had died of electrocution, were attacked by around 100 ‘gau rakshaks’ or cow vigilantes, who arrived at the spot accusing them of stealing and killing the animal.

The brothers are presently undergoing treatment at a hospital with reports indicating that one of them is critical.

[…]

The BJP is analogous (not exactly, but enough) to our religious right. While they claim to condemn the attacks on the Dalits, I if some of the harder line elements really are that concerned about the Dalits.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:50:10pm

The man is truly a pig.

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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:57:06pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

The full story is here:

marieclaire.com

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freetoken  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:59:10pm

State department report on religious and other discrimination, 2015 version:

2015 Annual Report

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:04:14am

re: #58 freetoken

How Katy Tur goes about her business astounds. Following Trump around on the campaign trail? What a soul-deadening endeavor.

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Alyosha  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:06:46am

re: #60 teleskiguy

How Katy Tur goes about her business astounds. Following Trump around on the campaign trail? What a soul-deadening endeavor.

There are going to be many interesting books written about this sorry excuse for a campaign.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:27:30am

re: #61 Alyosha

There are going to be many interesting books written about this sorry excuse for a campaign.

I was thinking that earlier. She needs to write a book. I’m sure she will make it out the other side unscathed and will be one of a few premier journalist. I will say one thing. Andrea Mitchell needs to retire.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:30:45am
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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:46:40am

Little Man with a Gun in His Hand

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:54:01am

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freetoken  Aug 11, 2016 • 12:57:49am

I find the second skit (starts at 3:59) rather humorous:

Granny’s Guide To The Modern World - DOCUMENTARY 2016 - Funny as hell

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Timothy Watson  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:02:51am

re: #29 teleskiguy

FUCK THIS HORSE RACE BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT! AAAAAAARGH!

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He’s using screengrabs from Fox News as props now?

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:03:17am

The Punch Line

This Ain’t No Picnic

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:05:03am

re: #64 teleskiguy

Still much more an X, Husker Du & Replacements fan, but the Minutemen were great.

Don’t forget Black Flag either.

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:07:59am

re: #69 William Lewis

Don’t forget Black Flag either.

SST Records 002 - Minutemen “Paranoid Time”

Greg Ginn had a good ear in those days.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:39:27am

More fascist RWNJs here in Virginia. I previously mentioned the problems with the nearby Islamic community center in Spotsylvania County trying to expand. Now, a DOJ investigation against a nearby county for denying a standard zoning request for a planned Islamic center:

The U.S. Justice Department is investigating to determine whether Culpeper County’s Board of Supervisors discriminated against a local Muslim congregation when it turned down a pump-and-haul sewage request for an Islamic prayer house in April.

“They are reviewing our pump-and-haul policy to see if we are in compliance with the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act,” County Administrator John Egertson confirmed Tuesday.

By a 4-3 vote, the supervisors turned down a request by Mohamed Nawabe and the Islamic Center of Culpeper to build a small prayer house on a one-acre parcel off State Route 229 just north of the Ira Hoffman Lane intersection.

Supervisors Jack Frazier, Bill Chase, Gary Deal and Steve Walker voted to deny Nawabe’s pump-and-haul request (the land is not conducive to a conventional septic system). Supervisors Alexa Fritz, Bradley Rosenberger and Sue Hansohn voted against the motion to deny.

The issue originally came before the supervisors at their March meeting, but was quickly tabled for 30 days. That move came on the heels of political activist Kurt Christensen’s email to the supervisors and to the media raising concerns about the permit being on the agenda.

Several supervisors later acknowledged that in the days prior to the April vote they were criticized by residents who were concerned about the prayer house. Fritz, who is chairman of the board, displayed a photo of a hate sign in her district.

The boardroom was filled with angry citizens on the morning of the vote.

Pump-and-haul permits had been a rather routine matter in previous years, with Egertson pointing out that about 15 had been granted since 1995. One was for a parcel of land on which a Lutheran congregation had planned to build a church. That application was later renewed without discussion.

fredericksburg.com

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2016 • 1:43:12am
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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:11:02am

Watching a Steve Kornacki clip on MSNBC (he is covering for Rachel) about the “discomfort on the left” with HRC courting from some Republican leaders.

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 8/10/16
Clinton outreach to Republicans causes discomfort on the left
Michael Crowley, senior foreign affairs correspondent at Politico, talks with Steve Kornacki about Hillary Clinton courting support from Republican leaders like Henry Kissinger and Condoleezza Rice and how those overtures are playing with her supporters…


The piece is rife with “some progressives”, the “base of the left”… no names.

I have to give it to Michael Crowley, Politico, who cools Steve’s vapours down with some decent analysis about what is going on. Basically, HRC is not selling her soul to gain Republican support, her main goal is to convey the gap between Trump and some well known Republicans.

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:22:35am

Whoa, this is big.
Obama Administration Set to Remove Barrier to Marijuana ResearchLink

By CATHERINE SAINT LOUIS and MATT APUZZOAUG. 10, 2016

The Obama administration is planning to remove a major roadblock to marijuana research, officials said Wednesday, potentially spurring broad scientific study of a drug that is being used to treat dozens of diseases in states across the nation despite little rigorous evidence of its effectiveness.

The NYT article points out that there is “little rigorous evidence of its effectiveness”. Why? Marjuana is a schedule 1 drug ‘meaning it is listed alongside heroin and LSD as among the “most dangerous drugs” and has “no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.’”
It is currently very difficult, almost impossible, to overcome restrictions and perform medical research on marijuana.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:40:38am

re: #74 Ming5000

Whoa, this is big.
Obama Administration Set to Remove Barrier to Marijuana ResearchLink

Is Malia going to study medicine?

Sorry, could not resist. Otherwise, I could not care less what an adult does for fun in his/her spare time.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:45:08am

re: #71 Timothy Watson

That’s scary stuff. The demonization of all Muslims has to stop.

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Alyosha  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:50:34am

re: #73 Ming5000

Just watched a Kornaki bit on the parallels between Trump and John Silber, who was the Democratic nominee for governor of Massachusetts in 1990. He lost to Bill Weld, who, as everyone here is probably aware, is now the VP nominee for the Libertarian Party.
People tuned in for his ‘Silber Shockers’ (he had the tendency to make brusque and off-colour statements (a la Trump) but came off as overly defensive in an interview held at his home - an interview which was supposed to help humanise him and which reminded me of the Simpson’s episode in which Mr. Burns blows his chance at the governorship by refusing to eat a three-eyed fish mutated by radioactive runoff from his powerplant.
The point of the piece was that temperament matters and voters engaged during the campaign season may shy away at the last hurdle.
Anyways, pretty good for the Maddow understudy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 2:55:39am

re: #76 Patricia Kayden

That’s scary stuff. The demonization of all Muslims has to stop.

Too late, it is now mainstream thought across broad swathes of America.

First we have calls to ban all immigration, then to start deporting “them” all.

For their own safety, mind you…

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Timothy Watson  Aug 11, 2016 • 3:12:25am

re: #74 Ming5000

Whoa, this is big.
Obama Administration Set to Remove Barrier to Marijuana ResearchLink

The NYT article points out that there is “little rigorous evidence of its effectiveness”. Why? Marjuana is a schedule 1 drug ‘meaning it is listed alongside heroin and LSD as among the “most dangerous drugs” and has “no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.’”
It is currently very difficult, almost impossible, to overcome restrictions and perform medical research on marijuana.

Yeah, totally ineffective, that’s why doctors prescribe synthetic THC (Dronabinol) to cancer victims to lessen the side effects of chemotherapy.

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(They have to prescribe the synthetic THC because they, of course, can’t legally prescribe marijuana in most states. And the synthetic THC is absurdly more expensive of course.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 3:16:55am

re: #79 Timothy Watson

(They have to prescribe the synthetic THC because they, of course, can’t legally prescribe marijuana in most states. And the synthetic THC is absurdly more expensive of course.)

And does not contain all the other biological elements (and variables) found in plant-based THC

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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2016 • 3:45:34am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:06:07am

Every story (well, maybe not every story) has two sides:

Tesla Autopilot Feature Saves Sick Driver’s Life

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:10:56am

re: #82 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Every story (well, maybe not every story) has two sides:

Tesla Autopilot Feature Saves Sick Driver’s Life

Yes.
We should also not forget that the Tesla accidents are being studied and improvements will be made.
Each year about 30,000 people die in people driven cars. Safety-wise, the expectation is that effective implementation of autonomous driving will cut that number down.

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Lancelot Link  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:11:15am

re: #64 teleskiguy

I saw the Minutemen at this show (with Husker Du and the Meat Puppets in San Francisco) 31 years ago.

Minutemen - I Felt Like a Gringo

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:17:04am

re: #83 Ming5000

Yes.
We should also not forget that the Tesla accidents are being studied and improvements will be made.
Each year about 30,000 people die in people driven cars. Safety-wise, the expectation is that effective implementation of autonomous driving will cut that number down.

How many people die or are injured as the result of a seizure or medical event that renders them unable to control their vehicle?

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:23:31am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How many people die or are injured as the result of a seizure or medical event that renders them unable to control their vehicle?

Whelp, seizure-wise, as a result of epilepsy alone, it looks like about 100,000 people would be a denied driver license.

Car accidents: Many states do not issue driver’s licenses to people with a history of seizures until they have been seizure-free for a specified period of time. A seizure can cause loss of awareness and affect your ability to control a car. You could injure yourself or others if you have a seizure while driving. - See more at: healthline.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:25:44am

re: #83 Ming5000

Yes.
We should also not forget that the Tesla accidents are being studied and improvements will be made.
Each year about 30,000 people die in people driven cars. Safety-wise, the expectation is that effective implementation of autonomous driving will cut that number down.

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How many people die or are injured as the result of a seizure or medical event that renders them unable to control their vehicle?

Even if it’s only 1% of the total, that’s still almost one a day, somewhere.

Automatic systems are going to be held to a totally different standard, though. If you could wave a magic wand and replace every vehicle on the road with an autonomous vehicle on January 1 of some year, if the year before 30,000 people were killed in cars under human control vs. 30 this year, it would be the crime of the millennium. Everybody involved would be tarred and feathered.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:28:31am

re: #87 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes, one of the biggest hindrances to the introduction of driverless systems will be the question of liability and responsibility for accidents. Questions will arise whether it was a maintenance failure, a design flaw or whether extraneous circumstances might apply.

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:29:51am

re: #87 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Totally agree with that concern. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. One thing that helped me feel better about autonomous vehicles was the chance to drive a car with ACTIVE CRUISE CONTROL. After seeing how seamless and capable it was I could envision fully autonomous some day.

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boredtechindenver  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:35:52am

Okay, I just started watching Morning Joe during the conventions and I must say, get rid of Joe and keep Donny Deutsch. He just made a cogent point. Trump is making outrageous statements now, at a time when he still has somewhat a chance. Imagine what he will say when he has no chance.

Mika just replied, somewhat under her breath, “Go back to pageants”.

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fern01  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:38:43am

re: #90 boredtechindenver

Okay, I just started watching Morning Joe during the conventions and I must say, get rid of Joe and keep Donny Deutsch. He just made a cogent point. Trump is making outrageous statements now, at a time when he still has somewhat a chance. Imagine what he will say when he has no chance.

Mika just replied, somewhat under her breath, “Go back to pageants”.

He’s been making good points all week - seems the 2nd amendment was the final straw for Donny.

Edit: He’s also making the others squirm about their prior love for Trump. Mika trying to deny they went for the ratings.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:51:41am

Who is this guy who “builds all the plants” and why won’t Trump say his name?

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:51:56am

Without comment!

PLANT CITY, Fla. (AP) — A man who had recently been released from prison after serving time for a road rage killing has been shot and killed during another road rage encounter in Florida.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:54:13am

re: #93 Ming5000

Another example of how anger impairs your ability to be even remotely smart. Now, who else could we apply that to?

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:57:21am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Another example of how anger impairs your ability to be even remotely smart. Now, who else could we apply that to?

Umm.. Donald Trump?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:58:24am

Trump is asked how he is going to pay for the massive infrastructure he wants to build and he says “borrow the money”

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:58:45am

re: #90 boredtechindenver

Imma gonna do so good on Morning Joke today.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 4:59:02am

Trump hints he may get even crazier: ‘I think maybe they want tougher rhetoric’

“I am listening to so-called experts to ease up the rhetoric, and so far, I’m liking the way I ran in the primaries better,” said the Republican presidential nominee. “Personally, I don’t know if that’s what the country wants. When we’re having heads chopped off in the Middle East, when things are happening that have never happened before in terms of the atrocities, in terms of giving $400 million in cash and all other things, I think maybe they want tougher rhetoric.”

You don’t even need to read between the lines to see that Trump is just itching to turn things up a notch because he thinks the general electorate is really pumped up to see him mock disabled reporters, insinuate opponents’ parents might have helped kill President Kennedy, and insult female debate moderators for having blood coming out of their “wherever.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:00:14am

Oh hey Donald you know when it gets too expensive to borrow because the rates have gone up? That’s when you have multiple bankruptcies and a history of not paying your debts, then banks don’t want to lend to you.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:00:27am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

Oh please with the loopholes too. That is why those taxed at the highest rates usually pay half of their percentage all the way down to nothing AND get a refund. He’s so full of shit. He whines about the US having the highest taxes EVERINTHEWORLD, losing the loopholes would raise taxes for every millionaire, billionaire and corporation. I really wish the media would just stop interviewing his stupid, lying ass. Yeah, the plant builder guy is probably one of the same vendors he uses to make his ugly Trump brand clothing crap.

I hope he’s so humiliated by his defeat that he never shows his face again without people pointing and laughing at him for the rest of his life.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:03:38am

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump hints he may get even crazier: ‘I think maybe they want tougher rhetoric’

And if Hill had said on the campaign trail, “If black lives matters can’t get the government to listen to their concerns then maybe they need to look into their 2nd amendment solutions!”, wonder how the right would interpret that? I am sure she would be accused of wanting police shot, but with tRump it is just a joke.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:08:10am

re: #101 Eventual Carrion

And if Hill had said on the campaign trail, “If black lives matters can’t get the government to listen to their concerns then maybe they need to look into their 2nd amendment solutions!”, wonder how the right would interpret that? I am sure she would be accused of wanting police shot, but with tRump it is just a joke.

You don’t get it. Trump is a Patriot and a True American. Therefore, anything that comes out of his mouth must be interpreted in that vein.

Hillary is a traitor and a criminal. Therefore, everything she says and does must be interpreted in that light.

Really, people.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:10:36am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

One of the most destructive things ever sold to the American people is this idea that government is supposed to turn a profit like a business. And therefore we need businessmen to run the government. NO. NOPE. NOoooooo.

Government exists first and foremost to INVEST in its citizens health and well being. This runs from everything to clean air and water, safe roads and bridges, a functional public school system, police, fire and rescue services, trash and waste removal and processing, and on and on. Privatizing all that stuff rarely ends up being a bargain for anyone. And once some shit is ruined (like air, water, soil and food supply) it can take decades or even longer to make it right again. People bitch about wasted tax dollars, but they fail to connect with the concept that there really has to be a separation of business and government. Maybe not to the degree of church and state, but there has to be a line there or we end up with contractors who do shitty work, get paid and people die or are hurting for life because of it. When government is able to do its job, you end up with healthy, well educated people who then can pay back what was invested in them by becoming productive, tax paying citizens who understand what being part of a United States entails. We are seeing that fall apart before our very eyes now, and it’s in large part because of the idea that the government exists to make money. Oh, it does make money, but not for us, for a very select few.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:14:49am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:40:17am

re: #97 Ming5000

I wonder if Donny and Geraldo live in the same building?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:56:42am

Trump absolutely wants debates:

“Probably Hillary Clinton would like that, but I don’t think they should be opposite NFL games and I want to see a fair moderator and whatever else we’ll look at,” he said.

thehill.com

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 5:58:49am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

He really does think he gets to decide all this and call all the shots. Jesus. I can’t wait for his tantrum and whining on TV when he doesn’t get his way. I wonder how much he’ll demand to be paid for showing up?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:01:20am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

To say otherwise about the media whore Trump would be foolish. Just for shits and giggles (until someone giggles and shits) they should just throw in NY Senator Chuck Schumer for the impending matter/antimatter explosion that would surely happen with the two of them competing for camera time.

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jeffreyw  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:05:40am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:12:51am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Trump absolutely wants debates:

“Probably Hillary Clinton would like that, but I don’t think they should be opposite NFL games and I want to see a fair moderator and whatever else we’ll look at,” he said.

thehill.com

Dude, the National Football League is on every night. By 2020 the NFL will be the only thing playing on TV at all.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:13:33am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Trump absolutely wants debates:

“Probably Hillary Clinton would like that, but I don’t think they should be opposite NFL games and I want to see a fair moderator and whatever else we’ll look at,” he said.

thehill.com

WHATEVER ELSE!!!!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:15:01am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Trump absolutely wants debates:

“Probably Hillary Clinton would like that, but I don’t think they should be opposite NFL games and I want to see a fair moderator and whatever else we’ll look at,” he said.

thehill.com

“Fair Moderator” here is his demand list of moderators for 3 debates

1. Sean Hannity
2. Jim “SMOTI” Hoft
3. Ivanka Trump

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:15:04am

re: #31 Dave In Austin

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:16:12am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary could do the debates with both arms tied behind her back and with all three of those nitwits moderating.

After all, doing the Benghazi hearings against a panel of GOPers who fancy themselves prosecutors/inquisitors was no biggie for her.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:16:15am

re: #101 Eventual Carrion

And if Hill had said on the campaign trail, “If black lives matters can’t get the government to listen to their concerns then maybe they need to look into their 2nd amendment solutions!”, wonder how the right would interpret that? I am sure she would be accused of wanting police shot, but with tRump it is just a joke.

That’s completely different because——-

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:20:41am

re: #103 A Mom Anon

Trump said something that actually made sense - namely that now was a good time to invest in infrastructure because interest rates were low.

But the GOP will sail right past that because they think debt is the absolute worst thing, unless it’s debt due to spending on wars and tax cuts for the rich (concurrently is a double win for the GOP).

The GOP’s fiscal policy is geared entirely towards favoring tax cuts for the wealthy and burden shifting from the rich to everyone else. It’s indisputable at this time. We see it everywhere - from the GOP’s own platform, to demanding estate tax repeals or cuts, in exchange for tax increases elsewhere (that would affect everyone, but disproportionately those who can ill afford it), or income tax cuts for the wealthy that result in far more tax savings for the rich (percentage and real dollars) than everyone else.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:22:07am

re: #113 lawhawk

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You’d think those Southern Baptist types would especially appreciate the “Hellfire” aspect…

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:22:44am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:23:26am

re: #116 lawhawk

Trump said something that actually made sense - namely that now was a good time to invest in infrastructure because interest rates were low.

But the GOP will sail right past that because they think debt is the absolute worst thing, unless it’s debt due to spending on wars and tax cuts for the rich (concurrently is a double win for the GOP).

The GOP’s fiscal policy is geared entirely towards favoring tax cuts for the wealthy and burden shifting from the rich to everyone else. It’s indisputable at this time. We see it everywhere - from the GOP’s own platform, to demanding estate tax repeals or cuts, in exchange for tax increases elsewhere (that would affect everyone, but disproportionately those who can ill afford it), or income tax cuts for the wealthy that result in far more tax savings for the rich (percentage and real dollars) than everyone else.

WHAT ABOUT THE DEBT THE NATIONAL DEBT WERE BROKE BANKRUPT?!?!?!?

Actually haven’t heard much about the debt crisis or the budget crisis or any of the usual hair-on-fire claims about out of control government spending and debt and….

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:26:33am

re: #116 lawhawk

I had a guy tell me on Tuesday that he really considered himself a John Birch fellow and that he was going to vote Trump because he was the least bad of the three candidates he was aware of < face palm >. (Stein doesn’t even register for him. Not a bad thing really… )

But then he went on a long rant about the national debt and how it was destroying the nation. In the end that was the only issue that really mattered to him and he wasn’t going to hear anything other than what he believed.

Sigh. I really wish Econ 101 (macro & micro) was taught in High School along with better Civics classes.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:27:51am

TexasLou - a regular commenter over at politicalwire.com is just killing it with the LGF bumper sticker generator today

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:29:45am

Then this idiot:

He meant exactly what he said. I’m so sick of the media covering for him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:36:19am

538’s predictions for Trump’s chance of victory took an enormous jump yesterday: from 3.8% to over 14. I guess enough people screamed WTF that here he is desperately spinning his decision to give an absurd weight to an insane outlier. I’m going to try to wean myself from following this crap too closely.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:38:46am

re: #73 Ming5000

Watching a Steve Kornacki clip on MSNBC (he is covering for Rachel) about the “discomfort on the left” with HRC courting from some Republican leaders.

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The piece is rife with “some progressives”, the “base of the left”… no names.

I have to give it to Michael Crowley, Politico, who cools Steve’s vapours down with some decent analysis about what is going on. Basically, HRC is not selling her soul to gain Republican support, her main goal is to convey the gap between Trump and some well known Republicans.

Morning…I think…all this humidity has me crashing early, waking early and crashing again ‘cuz I awoke too early.

I know a bunch of Bernie fans that say Hillary courting any Republican is a sure sign that she is a Republican in Dem clothes.

Beats me, I thought the idea was to get the office and bring change by appointing new Supremes and maybe working to get back control of the two branches of Congress. If it takes some Republicans to help, then maybe an extra benefit is they help accomplish goals and think about staying out of their party.

Oh well…strange thinking all around this election. The word “nuts” doesn’t cover it any more. Imma gone use “surreal.”

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:39:08am

re: #123 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

538’s predictions for Trump’s chance of victory took an enormous jump yesterday: from 3.8% to over 14. I guess enough people screamed WTF that here he is desperately spinning his decision to give an absurd weight to an insane outlier. I’m going to try to wean myself from following this crap too closely.

Eh, I can’t get too excited. He’s a bit of a slave to his models. His tend to be better than the rest but still. Come the first week of October? Then I’d care if Trump makes a jump like that.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:40:10am

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:42:08am

re: #124 ObserverArt

Morning…I think…all this humidity has me crashing early, waking early and crashing again ‘cuz I awoke too early.

I know a bunch of Bernie fans that say Hillary courting any Republican is a sure sign that she is a Republican in Dem clothes.

Beats me, I thought the idea was to get the office and bring change by appointing new Supremes and maybe working to get back control of the two branches of Congress. If it takes some Republicans to help, then maybe an extra benefit is they help accomplish goals and think about staying out of their party.

Oh well…strange thinking all around this election. The word “nuts” doesn’t cover it any more. Imma gone use “surreal.”

its the thinking that if any identifiable individual or group supports you in any way - by voting, giving $, time, endorsements whatever - whether solicited or not, then you must must must owe them something and you have have have to deliver

therefore you’re an impure sellout / in the pocket of / etc

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:42:36am

re: #126 A Mom Anon

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

I just want this to end. Maybe then people’s FB won’t be politics 24/7. But then again, when it does end, there’s going to be non stop bitching about who HRC picks for her cabinet. The right will make any pick out to be the reincarnation of Karl Marx and the Busters any pick out to be a Blue Dog who doesn’t care about progressive values.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:42:53am

re: #124 ObserverArt

Pretty much. If we can draw in even some of the GOP without giving away the farm - which is the case so far - then perhaps we’ve started to repair the damage done by Reagan.

People forget that historically the Democrats are Center-Right and only go further left when necessary (ie FDR) to prevent revolution. Now to real lefties like me that can get really frustrating but the reality is that it fits America really quite well.

The only real good that 3rd parties do in America is to provide ideas for the two major parties to steal and keep the majority happy.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:44:23am

re: #126 A Mom Anon

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

sure cause they would tots plan and create a trail of evidence about offing a dnc worker using the dnc email system

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:44:31am
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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:45:12am

re: #126 A Mom Anon

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

I’ve had the same annoyances over at the story on NPR. Certain “usual suspects” are doing their best to be useful idiots.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:46:14am

10% of women see delays of 2 weeks or more.

That’s more than enough to push some women into direct conflict with the various GOP restrictions and tightening limits on when abortions can be offered (the 20 week limit the GOP is pushing).

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:46:57am
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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:47:32am

re: #129 William Lewis

This is an election I’ve never seen before. We have a wildly unpopular GOP candidate and I think it’s incompetent NOT to try to go after some Republican support. Especially after many prominent Republicans have publicly said they’re voting for Hillary. It’s not that she’s a Republican, it’s that Trump is a dumpster fire and they are putting country before party.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:47:45am

re: #133 lawhawk

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10% of women see delays of 2 weeks or more.

That’s more than enough to push some women into direct conflict with the various GOP restrictions and tightening limits on when abortions can be offered (the 20 week limit the GOP is pushing).

What continues to sicken me about the RW narrative on abortion is they push a narrative of women who LOVE getting abortions rather than a woman who is making a medical decision based on what she feels is best for her body.

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Skip Intro  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:48:16am

re: #118 Jenner7

Every Republican’s worst fear should be the same one sane people have: Trump wins.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:48:25am

re: #126 A Mom Anon

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

i would add, and it’s been said better by others:

because internal, ambiguous, everyday emails are way more heinous than one candidate calling for the assassination of his opponent

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:49:25am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

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Hannity has his head up Trump’s ass so far that he’s discovered the shit.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:50:19am

re: #130 dangerman

Lordy it’s just dumb. To be clear though, the DNC emails aren’t what she was talking about with the murder. The emails just prove how awful Hillary is and how she forced Wasserman Shultz to resign and blah. The murder of the DNC staffer is suspect because he wasn’t robbed and it was in DC and he was in charge of stuff to do with voting and it’s obvious Hillary had something to do with this because she’s responsible for so many deaths as SoS. She won’t shut the fuck up and keeps dropping links from CNN and something called lawfareblog and none of them conclusively say the shit she says they do. It’s like trying to explain something to a small child with her.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:51:16am

re: #126 A Mom Anon

Sigh. Now there’s an idiot on an aquaintence’s Facebook page going on and on about the Wikileaks DNC email “expose” and how it’s just not clear at all who murdered Seth Rich and how Assange is VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, and how Hillary is just the worst and Bernie was robbed and GAHHHHHHHH! This guy is actually a sensible human, he has tried to tell her to calm the fuck down, but his patience is wearing thin. I wish these Bernie people would get the fuck over themselves and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

Falls under the category of “How do you like being played?” Not you, the person you’re talking about.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:51:43am

What we have honestly more and more in politics is a continued reliance on confirmation bias politics. I’m on Facebook. There are literally dozens of Facebook groups that simply exist to provided clickbait memes that either distort reality or outright lie. More information than ever is available but at the same time, that leads to misinformation. Now people will always get certain things wrong but what’s different now is the collective industry of misinformation to use the term industry lightly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:54:26am

re: #141 Belafon

Falls under the category of “How do you like being played?” Not you, the person you’re talking about.

Indeed, I see some of the stuff that people I know far left and right post and I just wonder if they ever check. A lefty type in my TL was upset about the “Taco Bowl” language used in the DNC emails. Well it seems that they were in fact using that tongue in cheek the day that Trump released a photo of himself eating a taco bowl and mocking it. And then there was the language used about Hispanic voters themselves. Assenge made it into a huge deal that the Democratic Party is trying to make Hispanic voters life long Democrats. And uh? That’s what political parties do. They try to create lasting coalitions. Honestly, I’m sick of Assenge and Wikileaks spreading bullshit designed for only one thing to stir people up and not to think.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:54:49am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

I agree but it’s more like hundreds of groups that reinforce lies and just stupid information. Hell, there’s at least 20 groups just devoted to flat earth stuff. My favorite one says they have membership ALL OVER THE GLOBE. Hahahaha. This shit pops up in my sidebar because I follow science bullshit debunking pages and it’s a hoot sometimes, but it scares me to see that some of the pages/groups have a few thousand members.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:57:23am

Last night I watched some of the Women’s Beach Volleyball competition. The US team was wearing long sleeve jerseys, and the Swiss team was wearing leggings. So it would seem that maximum exposure of skin is not a requirement for performance in that sport.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:58:08am

re: #79 Timothy Watson

Yeah, totally ineffective, that’s why doctors prescribe synthetic THC (Dronabinol) to cancer victims to lessen the side effects of chemotherapy.

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(They have to prescribe the synthetic THC because they, of course, can’t legally prescribe marijuana in most states. And the synthetic THC is absurdly more expensive of course.)

America’s whole thinking on drugs is a complete mess. Alcohol is most likely one of the most corrosive chemicals going. Look at the toll it takes on so many Americans. But it is legal.

I have no problem with alcohol being legal as it like so much is a choice. All I am talking about is realistic policy with research and education of all drugs so everyone knows what is dangerous what is beneficial.

I still remember one of my earliest lessons was the son of my one sister-in-law from a previous marriage to a policeman. One night, just after he got his license (16) he got drunk with a bunch of his buddies and drove off the side of the road and took out a telephone pole.

My sister-in-law was so glad it was only alcohol and that he wasn’t smoking pot. And his cop father managed to get the kid out of the whole thing. Lesson…there was none. He could have killed himself or someone else.

He ended up getting screwed up with alcohol but luckily managed to get himself straightened around. One of the things that helped chill him out…he smoked pot instead. He was living in my parents house after they had passed and it was being prepared for sale after the estate was cleared up. I had keys and one day dropped by to pick some of my old stuff and I saw rolling papers and a bong.

I never told him or his mother…she would have never understood and he was already changing and become a responsible dude…that smoked a little pot.

Anything can be bad if not moderated…salt, sugar, red meat…on and on.

It is good to see Obama may make this change. I have a good friend that smokes to relieve his back spasms and associated pain. He finds it was more effective than the stupid Cymbaltra his one doc had him on. That crap altered his personality and made him depressed and maudlin.

I’ve also heard LSD needs to be taken off the same schedule list. There are many thinking it may be a big help for Alzheimer’s and may help open new pathways in the brain to the storage of memories and functions. No one is going to know if it isn’t researched.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:58:29am

re: #144 A Mom Anon

I agree but it’s more like hundreds of groups that reinforce lies and just stupid information. Hell, there’s at least 20 groups just devoted to flat earth stuff. My favorite one says they have membership ALL OVER THE GLOBE. Hahahaha. This shit pops up in my sidebar because I follow science bullshit debunking pages and it’s a hoot sometimes, but it scares me to see that some of the pages/groups have a few thousand members.

You’re right. I under-counted the groups. These groups are really I think what pushes the reenforcement of confirmation bias. What seems to me happens is one person finds a meme on their pages and they share it and it’s often about how outrageously awful something is. It’s something as i said usually distorted or an outright lie like some of the stuff I’ve had to debunk by my friend I’ve mentioned but no one bothers to actually check it.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:58:31am

re: #140 A Mom Anon

Lordy it’s just dumb. To be clear though, the DNC emails aren’t what she was talking about with the murder. The emails just prove how awful Hillary is and how she forced Wasserman Shultz to resign and blah. The murder of the DNC staffer is suspect because he wasn’t robbed and it was in DC and he was in charge of stuff to do with voting and it’s obvious Hillary had something to do with this because she’s responsible for so many deaths as SoS. She won’t shut the fuck up and keeps dropping links from CNN and something called lawfareblog and none of them conclusively say the shit she says they do. It’s like trying to explain something to a small child with her.

responding to you and HappyWarrior’s #142 above, i’ve long since given up trying to explain or convince anyone else of anything. having a civilized discussion is difficult enough because first i have to know im dealing with someone who sort of accepts reality and rationality and logic and evidence and that there can be more than one way to look at things, etc. anymore than i can “debate” flat-earth, the age of the cosmos, homeopathy, astrology, bigfoot, etc.

so politically, i never engage, including family. none of us bring it up and we all get along great (and i dont do facebook, twitter or anywhere else but here)

i know that a powerful tool for political change is to engage others and try and persuade.

ive decided that its easier and way less stressful to help register new voters. its not controversial (mostly) and more powerful and effective.

plus it doesnt annoy the pig

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:58:35am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

I think the Swiss might have pulled an upset if they didn’t have that injury.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:01:12am

Mary Foley is trending. Yeah probably not what the GOP wanted after it created that fauxrage with Mateen’s father because Foley actually did commit a crime rather than be a Muslim whose son committed mass murder.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:02:08am

re: #90 boredtechindenver

Okay, I just started watching Morning Joe during the conventions and I must say, get rid of Joe and keep Donny Deutsch. He just made a cogent point. Trump is making outrageous statements now, at a time when he still has somewhat a chance. Imagine what he will say when he has no chance.

Mika just replied, somewhat under her breath, “Go back to pageants”.

I caught some of the first part of the show. I heard Mika make a dig at the missing Joke Scarborough about “what do I know, I’m just a little ol’ democrat. (In reference to Joke’s completely out of line shushing her up yesterday and saying “let me say it to the Republicans, because I am a Republican.”)

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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:03:29am

re: #148 dangerman

Yeah, she’s trying to drag me into another rabbit hole about Chelsea Manning and the videos that show we killed innocent people on purpose and how she shouldn’t be in jail because she’s protected under whistleblower status and, and but wait! She’s just SO MAD. Whatever, I signed out of Facebook this morning, she’s insane. These nitwits NEVER have an answer or try to fix anything, they just whine on the internet.

For my part, I’m trying to talk unregistered young people into registering to vote. So far I’ve got two, working on a third. One little step at a time.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:06:50am

re: #152 A Mom Anon

For my part, I’m trying to talk unregistered young people into registering to vote. So far I’ve got two, working on a third. One little step at a time.

Excellent! Congratulations!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:13:02am

The offending manager, Earl Phillips; has left his former position and became the deputy chair of Trump’s National Diversity Coalition, last week.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:13:17am

re: #120 William Lewis

I had a guy tell me on Tuesday that he really considered himself a John Birch fellow and that he was going to vote Trump because he was the least bad of the three candidates he was aware of < face palm >. (Stein doesn’t even register for him. Not a bad thing really… )

But then he went on a long rant about the national debt and how it was destroying the nation. In the end that was the only issue that really mattered to him and he wasn’t going to hear anything other than what he believed.

Sigh. I really wish Econ 101 (macro & micro) was taught in High School along with better Civics classes.

William…did I see you mention X upthread? I got to see them live at Bogarts in Cincinnati. It was a great show. Billy Zoom was fantastic and the combination of Exene Cervenka and John Doe on vocals was one of the most unique approaches to vocal ever! Billy Zoom is pretty good guitar tech these days and still playing.

www.billyzoom.com

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:13:32am

re: #119 Sir John Barron

WHAT ABOUT THE DEBT THE NATIONAL DEBT WERE BROKE BANKRUPT?!?!?!?

Actually haven’t heard much about the debt crisis or the budget crisis or any of the usual hair-on-fire claims about out of control government spending and debt and….

There are very few conventional GOP lines of attack that Trump hasn’t either stomped into the mud or handed to HRC to use as a club.

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:15:46am

Because he explicitly called out Obama as the founder of ISIS (he hasn’t done that before) and then said: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. And we all know why Republicans use his full name.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:19:23am

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

The offending manager, Earl Phillips; has left his former position and became the deputy chair of Trump’s National Diversity Coalition, last week.

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To be a fly on the wall.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:20:06am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I watched some of the Women’s Beach Volleyball competition. The US team was wearing long sleeve jerseys, and the Swiss team was wearing leggings. So it would seem that maximum exposure of skin is not a requirement for performance in that sport.

I noted that last night too. Teams were wearing various outfits, from long sleeves and leggings to bikinis. Doesn’t affect anything other than giving some of the male (or female) views a rise.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:21:40am

re: #155 ObserverArt

William…did I see you mention X upthread? I got to see them live at Bogarts in Cincinnati. It was a great show. Billy Zoom was fantastic and the combination of Exene Cervenka and John Doe on vocals was one of the most unique approaches to vocal ever! Billy Zoom is pretty good guitar tech these days and still playing.

www.billyzoom.com

Oh, I dearly love X. I’ve seen them 3 times and John Doe solo. John and Exene are an interesting couple - they give me a model of how to handle my ex wanting a divorce when I didn’t but still wanted to maintain a certain level of positive relationship. They still tour and their singing is exquisite…

Once upon a lifetime ago I took three cassette tapes with me when I went to basic training - one was a mix tape, one was Dire Straits “Love over Gold” and the last was “Under the Big Black Sun”. They are a really major part of my musical life. It’s hard to describe beyond that but X in my rotating top 5 bands along with Husker Du, The Clash, The Who & The Replacements the order depending on the mood of the day.

eta: Just realized that other than bar bands, X is the band I’ve paid money to see more than any other. I’m glad of that :D

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:22:47am

re: #159 lawhawk

I noted that last night too. Teams were wearing various outfits, from long sleeves and leggings to bikinis. Doesn’t affect anything other than giving some of the male (or female) views a rise.

I’d be afraid for heat management, but I’m sure the Sports Medicine wonks (and Sport Physicsts if there’s already such a thing) are all over that.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:23:07am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

There are very few conventional GOP lines of attack that Trump hasn’t either stomped into the mud or handed to HRC to use as a club.

And no matter who the Orange Clod gets to moderate and set up the debates…all Hillary need do is pull out a tiny splinter out of any of those clubs, poke him with it and he will go off and show his ass.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:23:13am

This cover! Love the artwork.

(morning!)

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:23:29am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Mary Foley is trending. Yeah probably not what the GOP wanted after it created that fauxrage with Mateen’s father because Foley actually did commit a crime rather than be a Muslim whose son committed mass murder.

And Foley was spotted at a party celebrating Trump’s win in Florida primary. And other times:

UPDATE:
And as others have pointed out, this is hardly a casual relationship between Trump and Foley given that Trump repeatedly donated to Foley’s campaign over the years.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:24:27am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

The male beach volleyball players wear more than the female players. It has more to do with appearance than performance (or health).

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:25:43am

re: #163 Stanley Sea

This cover! Love the artwork.

(morning!)

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Wow. Henry Luce is probably spinning in his grave because how so utterly Republican conservative he was.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:26:06am

re: #165 lawhawk

The male beach volleyball players wear more than the female players. It has more to do with appearance than performance (or health).

Sports Economists.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:26:06am

re: #164 lawhawk

And Foley was spotted at a party celebrating Trump’s win in Florida primary. And other times:

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Didn’t know about that. Wowie.

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:26:34am

Hugh Hewitt tries to do damage control, fails—

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:27:28am

re: #162 ObserverArt

And no matter who the Orange Clod gets to moderate and set up the debates…all Hillary need do is pull out a tiny splinter out of any of those clubs, poke him with it and he will go off and show his ass.

My fear though is Hillary will certainly end up saying something, anything, that drives our liberal media into their fainting couches, being too emphatic, not being emphatic enough, smiling too much, not smiling enough, etc..

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:28:23am

re: #169 Lidane

Hugh Hewitt tries to do damage control, fails—

Hugh Hewitt, of all people, even said that Obama has been attacking ISIS, you know, actually mentioned facts.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:28:30am

re: #169 Lidane

That’s sounds like an adult getting a toddler to sit still long enough to put hydrogen peroxide on the boo-boo.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:28:34am

re: #169 Lidane

Hugh Hewitt tries to do damage control, fails—

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That’s some Alex Jones/Free Republic level CT shit right there.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:29:17am

Although I don’t want to underestimate the wave of jobs that are about to be created in response to the need for Trump analysts.

“What Trump actually meant was….”

/

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:29:20am

re: #170 Sir John Barron

My fear though is Hillary will certainly end up saying something, anything, that drives our liberal media into their fainting couches, being too emphatic, not being emphatic enough, smiling too much, not smiling enough, etc..

This morning the headline on Good Morning America was that Clinton was “Doubling Down” on her argument that Trump was trying to incite violence. I kind of assumed that doubling down meant you were continuing to do what you were doing even when you’d been presented evidence that it was wrong. I don’t see that fitting here.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:30:41am

re: #169 Lidane

Hugh Hewitt tries to do damage control, fails—

This is your occasional reminder that Trump actually doesn’t want to be president, or at the least, has no interest in performing its duties should he however improbably be elected to its office.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:30:46am

re: #175 Belafon

This morning the headline on Good Morning America was that Clinton was “Doubling Down” on her argument that Trump was trying to incite violence. I kind of assumed that doubling down meant you were continuing to do what you were doing even when you’d been presented evidence that it was wrong. I don’t see that fitting here.

Gotta push a narrative somehow. Really Trump should be callled out for inciting violence. Really hoping the 19th amendment people do something about him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:31:08am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

This is your occasional reminder that Trump actually doesn’t want to be president, or at the least, has no interest in performing its duties should he however improbably be elected to its office.

He just wants the prestige and that’s it.

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:31:14am

re: #170 Sir John Barron

My fear though is Hillary will certainly end up saying something, anything, that drives our liberal media into their fainting couches, being too emphatic, not being emphatic enough, smiling too much, not smiling enough, etc..

Always a good chance. It is why I ignore almost all media especially the TV folks. I watch but ignore. I look at it all as a joke to keep my sanity.

I put all hope in right thinking people this election…screw all the noise.

And with that…got a small ecommerce site to continue working on. On to lurking…

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:33:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:34:03am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

He just wants the prestige and that’s it.

Like I said the other day, Trump can already (and honestly) claim that he’s the presidential nominee of one of the two main political parties in the US; that’s a pretty exclusive club that not too many Americans can legitimately say they’ve been a part of.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:34:29am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Always a good chance. It is why I ignore almost all media especially the TV folks. I watch but ignore. I look at it all as a joke to keep my sanity.

I put all hope in right thinking people this election…screw all the noise.

And with that…got a small ecommerce site to continue working on. On to lurking…

My rational self isn’t too worried about the election’s immediate outcome—I’m pretty sure that Hillary will win now.

But in no sane America should Trump win even one state. He’s completely unserious.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:34:53am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

Like I said the other day, Trump can already (and honestly) claim that he’s the presidential nominee of one of the two main political parties in the US; that’s a pretty exclusive club that not too many Americans can legitimately say they’ve been a part of.

Scary as hell that he’s gotten this far with his rhetoric. Hopefully it’s as far as he gets.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:35:47am

re: #180 lawhawk

Rinse & repeat:
Trump - Clinton responsible for X
Media - Trump meant to say Y
Trump - NO. Clinton is responsible for X. I meant what I said
Media - We can’t really be sure what Trump meant but…

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:35:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:36:36am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Scary as hell that he’s gotten this far with his rhetoric. Hopefully it’s as far as he gets.

Yes it is. I hold out hope that a majority of the voting public will see through his bullshit carnival barker act.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:37:06am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Gotta push a narrative somehow. Really Trump should be callled out for inciting violence. Really hoping the 19th amendment people do something about him.

With apologies to whomever I stole this from—we 21st Amendment folks will be doing our best, too.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:38:27am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

bullshit carnival barker act

about as good a summary as I’ve seen.

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Franklin  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:39:35am

re: #187 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

With apologies to whomever I stole this from—we 21st Amendment folks will be doing our best, too.

Might I suggest a ‘Hell Or High Watermelon’ by 21A to celebrate the 21A?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:40:24am

re: #187 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

With apologies to whomever I stole this from—we 21st Amendment folks will be doing our best, too.

Ha!

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:46:01am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:47:35am

re: #164 lawhawk

Oh god, can you imagine how boring an after rally Trump party must be?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:49:07am

I’m getting more of an Alex Jones vibe than an ISIL vibe from this guy

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Jenner7  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:53:28am

Wow.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:55:07am
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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:59:45am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 7:59:52am

[Florida] Man Shoots Unarmed Ex at Denny’s, Claims Self-Defense

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:01:14am

re: #53 freetoken

Yeah, it’s frustrating that there is a significant percentage of people in any given society that simply do not respond to provable facts, expert observation, statistical analysis, or any regard for actual science.

For them, logical fallacies, myth, cultural norms and tradition, anecdotal evidence, and some level of racial identity are much more important in their decision making.

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BigPapa  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:01:37am

re: #196 Lidane

Wasn’t Obama born in ISIS?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:02:04am

re: #196 Lidane

Endless balance beam bullshit. They don’t want to come off as an asshole too openly but they can’t outright deny the implication because that would piss off the base and cost them votes.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:02:08am
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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:03:50am

re: #199 BigPapa

Wasn’t Obama born in ISIS?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:05:10am

re: #199 BigPapa

Wasn’t Obama born in ISIS?

No, that’s a common confusion. Isis was his name back before the operations.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:06:08am

re: #202 lawhawk

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I remember that show from my childhood, alongside this one:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:07:06am

re: #202 lawhawk

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Oh, and I forgot to add this one:

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fern01  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:07:19am

re: #170 Sir John Barron

My fear though is Hillary will certainly end up saying something, anything, that drives our liberal media into their fainting couches, being too emphatic, not being emphatic enough, smiling too much, not smiling enough, etc..

Hillary will be held to the standard of President Obama. Trump will be held to a lower standard than Sarah Palin.

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nines09  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:08:45am

re: #196 Lidane

There is the majority of the GOP. Right there. Lock. Stock. Barrel. And Trump isn’t the GOP? Right.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:11:55am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:12:20am

Simon & Schuster announced this morning that Donald Trump’ s new book will be published on November 9th.

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:13:36am

re: #208 jaunte

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Magnificent.

P.S. - kill it with fire.

P.P.S - still a better presidential candidate than Donald Trump.

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BigPapa  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:13:52am

re: #202 lawhawk

The ISIS has many sekretes. But we know all of them.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:14:00am
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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:17:26am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I watched some of the Women’s Beach Volleyball competition. The US team was wearing long sleeve jerseys, and the Swiss team was wearing leggings. So it would seem that maximum exposure of skin is not a requirement for performance in that sport.

I was disappoint though

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:19:44am

2008 54%-45% Republican
2012 55%-44% Republican

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:20:37am

Trump is so toxic that South Carolina is in play….

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:21:34am

This story is very amusing. My favorite quote:

Well, it turns out when Trump bought the shuttle from Eastern Airlines, he made a bad deal, accepting an additional five planes instead of a lower purchase price because the market had turned south.

A bad deal! That’s gotta sting the ego.

Read the whole thing.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:22:27am

re: #215 Archangelus

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:25:09am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

2008 54%-45% Republican
2012 55%-44% Republican

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As I’ve said, Trump has so little room for error and he’s got a lot of holes to dig out of. I don’t remember a time in my lifetime that SC was ever that close.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:25:12am

re: #215 Archangelus

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Trump is so toxic that South Carolina is in play….

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Come out to play…

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:25:59am
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mmmirele  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:26:53am

re: #194 Jenner7

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Wow.

I guess I need to open up my wallet and support Kirkpatrick.

ETA: Done.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:28:59am

re: #220 FormerDirtDart

Seriously?

“Ok, here’s what Trump meant…..”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:30:07am

Ann Coulter: Donald Trump is a ‘victim of media rape’ being blamed for ‘wearing a short skirt’

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:31:00am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ann Coulter: Donald Trump is a ‘victim of media rape’ being blamed for ‘wearing a short skirt’

I’m trying to imagine someone going “Yeah, I can see how that analogy would fit.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:33:21am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ann Coulter: Donald Trump is a ‘victim of media rape’ being blamed for ‘wearing a short skirt’

How dare the media report on what Ann’s candidate actually says. The nerve of them. It’s just like a rape.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:33:37am

re: #224 Belafon

I’m trying to imagine someone going “Yeah, I can see how that analogy would fit.”

Somewhere out there someone is.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:33:42am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ann Coulter: Donald Trump is a ‘victim of media rape’ being blamed for ‘wearing a short skirt’

God, I pity her liver.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:34:04am

When asked why he attended last night’s Trump rally, disgraced politician Mark Foley said, “Donald acts like a child and I find that very attractive in a candidate.”

I’ll see myself out…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:34:27am

re: #227 William Lewis

God, I pity her liver.

I pity her soul and I ain’t even religious.

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:35:34am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

I pity her soul and I ain’t even religious.

You can’t pity what the universe never created to begin with…

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:35:39am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:37:02am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Come out to play…

;-) Re the movie, I love how they paid their fares and didn’t jump the turnstiles.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:37:20am

re: #230 Archangelus

You can’t pity what the universe never created to begin with…

Can you imagine what she was like as a kid? That woman has so much hate in her. It’s unhealthy.

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calochortus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:38:39am

Greetings all. Mr. C. and I are back from our little jaunt up the coast. Mostly lovely weather and good hiking.
Did I miss anything while we were away? Oh, never mind.
(I did hear about Stupid Trump Remark #8,873,020, but very little else. It was so mentally refreshing to mostly stay away from media.)

Lots to do this morning from laundry to grocery shopping so I’ll catch up with everyone later.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:38:51am

So many families… so many families.. so many…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:39:49am

re: #235 jaunte

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So many families… so many families.. so many…

Actually I can believe that because most of the people he actually knows are in that income bracket. Destroyed OTOH.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:40:15am

New release from SC State Chair:

A new Public Policy Polling (PPP) poll, released today shows that the presidential race in South Carolina is statistically tied, and within the margin of error with Donald Trump at 41% and Hillary Clinton at 39%.

Turning South Carolina Blue doesn’t stop with the presidency though, and we’re proud to share that respondents also sided with Democrats on several key issues:

- 84% support requiring universal criminal background checks for firearm purchases
- 81% support barring firearm purchases by people on the terrorist watch list
- 77% support increasing the minimum wage
- 78% support allowing refinancing student loans at lower rates
- 53% support legislation protecting LGBT South Carolinians from discrimination in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:40:42am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Only inheriting $10 million tax-free? DESTROYED!

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:40:43am

re: #230 Archangelus

You can’t pity what the universe never created to begin with…

An alcoholic can have no control over his illness.

Someone else can have complete control over their soul.

I am religious and I pray that god has mercy on those who would abuse their soul out of hate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:41:46am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:42:19am

re: #237 BeachDem

New release from SC State Chair:

A new Public Policy Polling (PPP) poll, released today shows that the presidential race in South Carolina is statistically tied, and within the margin of error with Donald Trump at 41% and Hillary Clinton at 39%.

Turning South Carolina Blue doesn’t stop with the presidency though, and we’re proud to share that respondents also sided with Democrats on several key issues:

- 84% support requiring universal criminal background checks for firearm purchases
- 81% support barring firearm purchases by people on the terrorist watch list
- 77% support increasing the minimum wage
- 78% support allowing refinancing student loans at lower rates
- 53% support legislation protecting LGBT South Carolinians from discrimination in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations

So many people would vote Democratic if the Republicans couldn’t get away with scaring them about gays, guns, and abortion. Perhaps that’s why Republican leaders really are disgusted with Trump. He’s not good at pretending that he sees persecuting gays and women getting abortions as the issue but rather being a bombastic asshole.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:44:53am

re: #235 jaunte

The estate tax is probably what the Trump Tower climber wanted to talk to him about. That and the effectiveness of aluminum siding for repelling invaders from outer space.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:46:07am

re: #238 jaunte

Only inheriting $10 million tax-free? DESTROYED!

I know. It’s terrible! //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:47:20am

It’s just like ACA though. People love it right until you tell them it’s what we know as Obamacare and they freak out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:48:22am
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A Mom Anon  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:48:30am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

What’s sociopathic about this party is that they, at any time, COULD take the road of actually governing and helping Americans. They CHOOSE not too. They could be heroes and end up winning without having to cheat or make things tougher for people. I would think it costs more in time, energy and money to do the worst. It’s really heartbreaking the squandering of all sorts of resources to be assholes. Sigh.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:50:54am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ann Coulter: Donald Trump is a ‘victim of media rape’ being blamed for ‘wearing a short skirt’

Is it just me, or hasn’t she done that exact sort of victim blame, to an actual rape victim before? Doesn’t that just make this analogy even fucking worse coming from her?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:51:06am

re: #246 A Mom Anon

What’s sociopathic about this party is that they, at any time, COULD take the road of actually governing and helping Americans. They CHOOSE not too. They could be heroes and end up winning without having to cheat or make things tougher for people. I would think it costs more in time, energy and money to do the worst. It’s really heartbreaking the squandering of all sorts of resources to be assholes. Sigh.

Indeed. I’ve never been a Republican and neither were my parents or grandparents but you know when my parents were growing up, the GOP was a respectable party at least that I think had its priorities straight. Can’t imagining them nominating Trump or someone like Trump even getting considered. To me, the GOP’s descent into the shit storm it is today begins with nominating Goldwater in 1964. I don’t care if Goldwater wasn’t a racist personally and has some admirable qualities. It was a mistake to nominate a man opposed to the CRA-1964 and other federal civil rights legislation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:51:26am

re: #247 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Is it just me, or hasn’t she done that exact sort of victim blame, to an actual rape victim before? Doesn’t that just make this analogy even fucking worse coming from her?

I’m pretty sure you’re right about that.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:52:00am

Can’t imagine why…

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:52:36am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Can you imagine what she was like as a kid? That woman has so much hate in her. It’s unhealthy.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:52:48am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like the U3 unemployment chart.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:53:55am

You know, as bad as the Trump campaign looks from the outside, recent history (McCain, Romney) has shown us that no matter how bad a campaign looks from the outside, eventually stories come out that show it was actually worse than we knew.

That SC gunplay story is an early indicator. When the post-mortem of Trump’s campaign is written, we’ll have a brand new definition of both ‘stunning incompetence’ and ‘amateur night.’

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:55:10am

re: #253 makeitstop

You know, as bad as the Trump campaign looks from the outside, recent history (McCain, Romney) has shown us that no matter how bad a campaign looks from the outside, eventually stories come out that show it was actually worse than we knew.

That SC gunplay story is an early indicator. When the post-mortem of Trump’s campaign is written, we’ll have a brand new definition of both ‘stunning incompetence’ and ‘amateur night.’

I can’t wait to see the movie(s) they make from this.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:56:44am

re: #250 De Kolta Chair

NIN’s Ruiner and Heresy seem to be more appropriate given what Trump is putting the nation through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:56:50am

re: #252 lawhawk

It’s supposed to be declining home ownership.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:57:00am

re: #250 De Kolta Chair

Can’t imagine why…

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I’m always surprised at how huge a Gibson SG looks hanging from Angus’ frame. By now I should remember that he’s just a little guy.

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Great White Snark  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:57:32am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Contrast that with Reagans daughter Patti Davis
HT Huff Po

Patti Davis
12 hours ago
To Donald Trump: I am the daughter of a man who was shot by someone who got his inspiration from a movie, someone who believed if he killed the President the actress from that movie would notice him. Your glib and horrifying comment about “Second Amendment people” was heard around the world. It was heard by sane and decent people who shudder at your fondness for verbal violence. It was heard by your supporters, many of whom gleefully and angrily yell, “Lock her up!” at your rallies. It was heard by the person sitting alone in a room, locked in his own dark fantasies, who sees unbridled violence as a way to make his mark in the world, and is just looking for ideas. Yes, Mr. Trump, words matter. But then you know that, which makes this all even more horrifying.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:58:23am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, instead of noting that the rise was a bubble and we’re returning to a more reasonable baseline, he thinks that the bubble should be encouraged.

Gotcha!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 8:59:52am

re: #258 Great White Snark

Contrast that with Reagans daughter Patti Davis
HT Huff Po

Wow, Patti is usually pretty quiet about political matters. Considering what happened to her Dad, I’m not surprised she chose to speak up. Good for her.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:00:41am

It pretty unbelievable to me that a US presidential candidate now takes the stage with blowups of charts and internet memes.

I hope you’re happy with this third-grade shit, Republicans. You built that.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:02:22am

re: #261 makeitstop

It pretty unbelievable to me that a US presidential candidate now takes the stage with blowups of charts and internet memes.

I hope you’re happy with this third-grade shit, Republicans. You built that.

And yet it’s believable and possibly even more depressing that it still won’t be enough to drop his share of the votes below 45% or so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:02:28am

re: #261 makeitstop

It pretty unbelievable to me that a US presidential candidate now takes the stage with blowups of charts and internet memes.

I hope you’re happy with this third-grade shit, Republicans. You built that.

Now the only question I have is if he’s getting his memes from the same website my friend gets his. My money would be on yes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:02:31am

re: #259 lawhawk

So, instead of noting that the rise was a bubble and we’re returning to a more reasonable baseline, he thinks that the bubble should be encouraged.

Gotcha!

Probably because he or his buddies in the industry were making a killing selling houses people didn’t need at prices they couldn’t afford.

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Ming5000  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:03:44am

re: #259 lawhawk

So, instead of noting that the rise was a bubble and we’re returning to a more reasonable baseline, he thinks that the bubble should be encouraged.

Gotcha!

I cannot imagine what his angle is on this, except that “declining home ownership - BAD!”

Still higher than anytime before around..1999?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:03:58am

the thing the trumpsters don’t understand is that even if every last thing they accuse hillary of is true, it wouldn’t add up to a quarter of the crap that trump did to people before he ever started to run for president this cycle

and that would be leaving aside the fact that he generally acts like a seventh grader w a serious emotional disorder

i would vote for richard nixon before trump. i’d vote for ronald reagan before trump. hell i’d even vote for old george corley wallace before trump

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Stanley Sea  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:04:07am

re: #253 makeitstop

You know, as bad as the Trump campaign looks from the outside, recent history (McCain, Romney) has shown us that no matter how bad a campaign looks from the outside, eventually stories come out that show it was actually worse than we knew.

That SC gunplay story is an early indicator. When the post-mortem of Trump’s campaign is written, we’ll have a brand new definition of both ‘stunning incompetence’ and ‘amateur night.’

Still laughing at that “I was in jail” tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:04:39am

re: #261 makeitstop

It pretty unbelievable to me that a US presidential candidate now takes the stage with blowups of charts and internet memes.

I hope you’re happy with this third-grade shit, Republicans. You built that.

It’s like Perot all over again, but stupider.

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Great White Snark  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:05:27am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Wow, Patti is usually pretty quiet about political matters. Considering what happened to her Dad, I’m not surprised she chose to speak up. Good for her.

My $.02

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:05:39am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s like Perot all over again, but stupider.

Ross Perot was actually a successful businessman.

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:05:39am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Nobody’s buying houses anymore!”

Yeah, that’s what a bunch of people who build houses for a living want to hear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:06:05am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Ross Perot was actually a successful businessman.

I know.
I was talking about the charts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:06:26am
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Great White Snark  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:07:32am

Right real estate lessons from The Donald. ///

What’s next, video clips from Trump U? Seminars!

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:07:36am

re: #271 Lidane

“Nobody’s buying houses anymore!”

Yeah, that’s what a bunch of people who build houses for a living want to hear.

One thing that would really stimulate the home building business is a change in local laws to allow construction of smaller houses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:08:08am

Wow, everyday working Americans should just LOVE THIS!

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:08:26am

But most homebuilders want to build the biggest house possible, so they wouldn’t want to hear that.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:09:12am

The focus on the estate tax is just comical.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:09:26am

re: #269 Great White Snark

My $.02

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Props “2nd Amendment” guy :).

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:09:48am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Wow, everyday working Americans should just LOVE THIS!

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Yes, because single mothers often worry that the estate tax is gonna make it impossible to afford groceries next week.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:10:04am

re: #278 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The focus on the estate tax is just comical.

It fits a “Blue collar billionaire” though. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:11:01am

re: #278 A wild WITHAK appeared!

The focus on the estate tax is just comical.

Hey, it’s very important to Ivanka! (although somebody should tell her she won’t inherit $10 million because her old man doesn’t have that much)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:11:15am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Yes, because single mothers often worry that the estate tax is gonna make it impossible to afford groceries next week.

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Meanwhile Gary Johnson apparently has proposed a 23% national sales tax apparently. I don’t know what it is with Libertarians and their idea that a high sales tax is a good idea.

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Great White Snark  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:12:08am
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Ubiq  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:13:00am

re: #253 makeitstop

You know, as bad as the Trump campaign looks from the outside, recent history (McCain, Romney) has shown us that no matter how bad a campaign looks from the outside, eventually stories come out that show it was actually worse than we knew.

That SC gunplay story is an early indicator. When the post-mortem of Trump’s campaign is written, we’ll have a brand new definition of both ‘stunning incompetence’ and ‘amateur night.’

I’ll be honest. I’ve read enough behind-the-scenes books and watched enough behind-the-scenes stories about campaigns to know that the only presidential campaigns that AREN’T absolute shitshows are the ones who never had a chance anyway (your Kucinich’s and Gilmores).

Don’t get me wrong, I think that the Trump campaign is going to provide for some spellbinding behind-the-scenes action, but a presidential campaign is effectively an extremely decentralized circus. You have a candidate who is exhausted and frustrated. You have bickering staff who grow to hate each other because of the pressure they are all under. You have surrogates that go off message, you have local offices that go rogue, you have supporters who do shitty things that somehow your campaign is responsible for. And on top of that shit sundae, you have the press fixating on who-the-fuck-knows-what any given day, and in the modern era, you have the Internet constantly digging up dirt from twenty years ago, and if they can’t find any, they just make it up, and suddenly your surrogates have to defend how your candidate isn’t a pigfucker.

The only campaign that looks competent is the one that wins, and that’s because the stories behind its dysfunction usually get buried.

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:13:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:14:04am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Meanwhile Gary Johnson apparently has proposed a 23% national sales tax apparently. I don’t know what it is with Libertarians and their idea that a high sales tax is a good idea.

HURR HURR IT A CHOICE!!!!111!

Because people just can totally choose to not buy food or pay rent.//

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:14:06am

re: #237 BeachDem

New release from SC State Chair:

A new Public Policy Polling (PPP) poll, released today shows that the presidential race in South Carolina is statistically tied, and within the margin of error with Donald Trump at 41% and Hillary Clinton at 39%.

Turning South Carolina Blue doesn’t stop with the presidency though, and we’re proud to share that respondents also sided with Democrats on several key issues:

- 84% support requiring universal criminal background checks for firearm purchases
- 81% support barring firearm purchases by people on the terrorist watch list
- 77% support increasing the minimum wage
- 78% support allowing refinancing student loans at lower rates
- 53% support legislation protecting LGBT South Carolinians from discrimination in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations

Maybe you’ll get your campaign kid back after all. Per 538, HRC’s chance in AL is one half of one percent.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:14:25am

re: #286 Archangelus

Obviously forged, the ID number is way too high.

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:15:54am
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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:16:38am

re: #286 Archangelus

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A week later, he was in Tunisia killing a man.

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Archangelus  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:17:41am

Seriously, after that ISIS accusation, I’d love nothing more than for Obama to issue a statement clarifying that he has nothing to do with the newly-reformed Archer Agency after reaching a dead end in negotiations with Sterling and/or Mallory…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:22:05am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m pretty positive that’s one of the reasons he hasn’t released them - and won’t.

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:22:17am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Meanwhile Gary Johnson apparently has proposed a 23% national sales tax apparently. I don’t know what it is with Libertarians and their idea that a high sales tax is a good idea.

Libertarians are economic illiterates. It’s all the worst impulses of the Republicans after a night of hitting the bong.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:24:56am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Meanwhile Gary Johnson apparently has proposed a 23% national sales tax apparently. I don’t know what it is with Libertarians and their idea that a high sales tax is a good idea.

Because poor people are forced to spend all their money. Rich people spend a fraction of theirs.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:26:23am

re: #294 Lidane

Libertarians are economic illiterates. It’s all the worst impulses of the Republicans after a night of hitting the bong.

These days, Libertarians are basically the “compassionate conservatives” of the 90s, economically illiterates who try to con people into voting for them because they promise they’re more socially liberal than the GOP is.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:27:32am

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:30:51am

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:31:12am

POTUS has good taste:

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sagehen  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:34:43am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My favorite bit from the article:

At Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn, aides still nursing scars from skirmishes with Bernie Sanders marveled at their good fortune. As in all campaigns, researchers watch every public event, read every interview, archive every tweet. “On other campaigns, we would have to scrounge for crumbs,” says a senior Clinton adviser. “Here, it’s a fire hose. He can set himself on fire at breakfast, kill a nun at lunch and waterboard a puppy in the afternoon. And that doesn’t even get us to prime time.”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:35:24am

re: #286 Archangelus

Trump would definitely display a blow-up of that at his next rally and say its real because he saw the video of ISIS making it at Kinko’s.

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:36:24am

LOL:

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:39:38am

re: #290 Archangelus

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:40:48am

re: #302 Lidane

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TedStriker  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:41:46am

re: #302 Lidane

LOL:

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Does this mean they’re gonna break Jack Kevorkian’s “death van” out of mothballs?

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:42:22am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:42:32am

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:45:52am

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Maybe you’ll get your campaign kid back after all. Per 538, HRC’s chance in AL is one half of one percent.

Doubtful—she’s totally in her element in Florida doing Hispanic outreach. (her twitter handle is SilvinaLaLatina)

But I’m incredibly pumped. If that wayward 2% for Stein (I’m sure Bernie holdouts) came to their senses, Hillary would be actually tied. And most interesting is that the demo where Trump has a big lead is in over 65—and I can tell you, there are a whole lot of old Dems here—just need to get them registered and voting (along with the yoots)

I just hope the enthusiasm continues and has some impact on downticket. Thomas Dixon is a really good candidate—Tim Scott is a do-nothing jerk. If we could get some big name surrogates to work for Dixon and if Scott could be shamed into a debate, I think Dixon might actually have a chance. (You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:45:53am

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Ok, so that raises the question, what does it look like in Texas?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:45:59am
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Kragar  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:46:05am

This seems troublesome

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:46:33am
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b.d.  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:47:32am

re: #286 Archangelus

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That Obama ISIS ID badge should have “Foreign Student” on there somewhere.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:47:37am

re: #306 lawhawk

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It’s “messenger, not message” time for the GOP again. It’s not even Oct and they’re already working hard to dump the impending post-election shitstorm on Trump.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:47:55am

re: #311 Kragar

Hillary’s fault of course. Doubly so if he killed someone or was killed //////////////////////////

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:48:09am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Ross Perot was actually a successful businessman.

And much of it due to huge government contracts with EDS (Electronic Data Systems).

It always amazes me how many small government types made huge amounts of money through government contracts, connections or as politicians.

Good for me…not for thee!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:48:31am

re: #299 Lidane

POTUS has good taste:

Why is Obama always tweeting?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:49:03am

re: #312 Belafon

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Authoritarians are the same the world over.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:50:41am

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Maybe you’ll get your campaign kid back after all. Per 538, HRC’s chance in AL is one half of one percent.

So Trump was right. The polls are tightening.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:51:15am

re: #319 Sir John Barron

Not where he wants them too though. :P

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Ubiq  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:53:12am

re: #295 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Because poor people are forced to spend all their money. Rich people spend a fraction of theirs.

They’d have rebates for the poor people. When you point out that this just moves the tax burden off of rich people and corporations to the middle class, they just stick their fingers in their ears and go ‘nyah nyah nyah’.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:56:11am

re: #308 BeachDem

. And most interesting is that the demo where Trump has a big lead is in over 65—and I can tell you, there are a whole lot of old Dems here—just need to get them registered and voting (along with the yoots)

And 30 seconds after I typed this, email from Clinton campaign:

I have a simple but important question for you: Are you registered to vote yet?

We can raise a whole lot of money, we can build the strongest ground game in history, and we can have a supremely qualified and progressive ticket like Hillary and Tim fighting for us. But NONE of that will matter if we don’t turn out our supporters to vote — and that starts with you being registered.

Registering or finding out your registration status takes just a minute. Make sure you’re signed up, fired up, and ready to elect Hillary!

Her peeps are ON IT!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:59:49am

re: #322 BeachDem

And 30 seconds after I typed this, email from Clinton campaign:

I have a simple but important question for you: Are you registered to vote yet?

We can raise a whole lot of money, we can build the strongest ground game in history, and we can have a supremely qualified and progressive ticket like Hillary and Tim fighting for us. But NONE of that will matter if we don’t turn out our supporters to vote — and that starts with you being registered.

Registering or finding out your registration status takes just a minute. Make sure you’re signed up, fired up, and ready to elect Hillary!

Her peeps are ON IT!

Clinton is playing chess while Trump is playing duck duck goose.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 9:59:52am

re: #309 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, so that raises the question, what does it look like in Texas?

14.5==HRC.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:00:54am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Clinton is playing chess while Trump is playing duck duck goose.

Trump has the best emails. The best. Believe me.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:01:13am

re: #322 BeachDem

And 30 seconds after I typed this, email from Clinton campaign:

I have a simple but important question for you: Are you registered to vote yet?

We can raise a whole lot of money, we can build the strongest ground game in history, and we can have a supremely qualified and progressive ticket like Hillary and Tim fighting for us. But NONE of that will matter if we don’t turn out our supporters to vote — and that starts with you being registered.

Registering or finding out your registration status takes just a minute. Make sure you’re signed up, fired up, and ready to elect Hillary!

Her peeps are ON IT!

“Excuse me, I can help. I speak Fogey.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:02:25am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:03:18am

re: #322 BeachDem

This election is probably the most important one since the German Elections in 1932 and 1933.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:04:30am

I was wondering when the press was going to ask if this was a trend.

And why do they always ask? Is that supposed to make us feel more “invested” in the subject?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:05:51am

re: #254 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I can’t wait to see the movie(s) they make from this.

Downfall US.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:06:23am

re: #329 De Kolta Chair

Democrats need to make sure that doesn’t happen. The Republican Party must be wrecked.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:06:49am

re: #331 Ziggy_TARDIS

Democrats need to make sure that doesn’t happen. The Republican Party must be wrecked.

The thing to do is link them with Trump.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:07:43am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another good one from Huppke

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:08:44am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:10:06am

re: #334 De Kolta Chair

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Makes total sense………..if you’re a moron.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:10:11am

re: #322 BeachDem

And 30 seconds after I typed this, email from Clinton campaign:

I have a simple but important question for you: Are you registered to vote yet?

We can raise a whole lot of money, we can build the strongest ground game in history, and we can have a supremely qualified and progressive ticket like Hillary and Tim fighting for us. But NONE of that will matter if we don’t turn out our supporters to vote — and that starts with you being registered.

Registering or finding out your registration status takes just a minute. Make sure you’re signed up, fired up, and ready to elect Hillary!

Her peeps are ON IT!

Hillary’s got some great swag in her store. Already ordered a tee-shirt and bumper sticker. Will order some more stuff tomorrow when The Man pays me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:11:36am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:12:45am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That we need to “Fact check” the President of the United States being called the founder of a terrorist group is pathetic.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:14:59am

Here’s hoping this catches fire as a trend

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ObserverArt  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:15:19am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

That we need to “Fact check” the President of the United States being called the founder of a terrorist group is pathetic.

Keep it simple Happy One…our news media is pathetic. All their actions follow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:16:13am

re: #340 ObserverArt

Keep it simple Happy One…our news media is pathetic. All their actions follow.

It is, it really is. But this in general is vomit inducing.

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Skip Intro  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:17:06am

I’m getting worried about RedState.

LIVE VIDEO Of Man Attempting To Climb Trump Tower Using Trump’s Own Superpower: Sucking

redstate.com

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:17:09am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:18:37am

I know I said I was going to stop watching 538’s Now-cast, but…I see tRump’s down to 11%. More importantly, the EVs of the states (plus DC) that they give Hillary a >90% chance of winning add up to 269. Add literally anything else and it’s a done deal.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:18:50am

re: #339 De Kolta Chair

Here’s hoping this trend catches fire…

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Good read.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:19:10am

hahahahaaaa

I’m still wondering why Ohio is advertising to hire someone for this newly-created government position.

Isn’t writing regulations and stuff like that generally done by regular staff people?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:19:12am

re: #343 lawhawk

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Dr. Hannity MD is on the case y’all.

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:19:36am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:19:52am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:20:38am

re: #349 De Kolta Chair

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People’s exhibit A, the wall.
Build a wall on the border! Then make Mexico pay for it.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:20:43am
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jaunte  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:21:27am

“Why are these brightly colored bipeds swinging sticks in my living room?”

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:22:11am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:22:20am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Dr. Hannity MD is on the case y’all.

Hannity is a special kind of stupid, isn’t he?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:22:45am

re: #342 Skip Intro

I’m getting worried about RedState.

LIVE VIDEO Of Man Attempting To Climb Trump Tower Using Trump’s Own Superpower: Sucking

redstate.com

Erick son of Erick has declared over and over that he will NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE THINK OF TEH UNBORNED BABBIES!!!11!!!!

So has Baby Whiplash.

So either these guys will 1) Not vote 2) Vote for Gary Johnson 3) Vote for Trump secretly when nobody is looking

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Sir John Barron  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:23:14am

re: #342 Skip Intro

I’m getting worried about RedState.

LIVE VIDEO Of Man Attempting To Climb Trump Tower Using Trump’s Own Superpower: Sucking

redstate.com

As are we all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:23:26am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

Hannity is a special kind of stupid, isn’t he?

He really is. It’s hard to stand out in a network full of right wing bullshit but he stands out for how uniquely stupid he is. I can’t wait to see him act like Trump was never a right winger when he loses.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:24:20am

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

Erick son of Erick has declared over and over that he will NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE THINK OF TEH UNBORNED BABBIES!!!11!!!!

So has Baby Whiplash.

So either these guys will 1) Not vote 2) Vote for Gary Johnson 3) Vote for Trump secretly when nobody is looking

I honestly don’t know. No way they vote for Johnson though. At least not BW. He already calls Johnson a leftist since Johnson doesn’t share his desire to have the federal government control people’s rights.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:25:56am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t know. No way they vote for Johnson though. At least not BW. He already calls Johnson a leftist since Johnson doesn’t share his desire to have the federal government control people’s rights.

I honestly don’t care who Erick Erecksion votes for.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:26:09am

re: #343 lawhawk

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Diagnosis by video is a Republican tradition, remember….

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:26:31am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:28:17am

re: #359 darthstar

I honestly don’t care who Erick Erecksion votes for.

I don’t either but she wondered. I just think it’s comical to see all these people who have fed the right wing movement that has made Trump a nominee for a major party acting like Trump isn’t really one of them.

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Skip Intro  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:28:32am

re: #361 Lidane

Yeah, there is something wrong with Trump saying Obama founded ISIS.

IT FUCKING ISN’T TRUE, you CNBC morons.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:29:16am

re: #348 Lidane

Why the Republican National Committee & big donors are getting ready to cut Trump loose to sink or swim on his own.

Dear RNC and Sugar Daddies,

If you’re gonna do it, just fucking do it already.

You’re just slitting your own throat this election cycle anyway. You only get to decide if you want to use a scalpel or a rusty oil can.

No love whatsoever,
makeitstop

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:29:37am

re: #361 Lidane

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If he’s so anti-Iraq War, why did he choose Pence as his running mate? He doesn’t get to shit on Clinton for her vote which was a lot more reluctant than Pence’s. I don’t think Pence ever criticized the decision to go in. Fuck Trump’s hypocrisy and revisionism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:30:17am

re: #364 makeitstop

Dear RNC and Sugar Daddies,

If you’re gonna do it, just fucking do it already.

You’re just slitting your own throat this election cycle anyway. You only get to decide if you want to use a scalpel or a rusty oil can.

No love whatsoever,
makeitstop

They know they can’t actually do it because they know that dumping Trump would be the last straw for their base that already despises them.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:30:18am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:30:37am

re: #361 Lidane

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Lost in the much-worse idiocy here is that Trump is attempting to give the MVP award to two people, which is, y’know, impossible

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Lidane  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:31:22am

America:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:31:25am

re: #368 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Lost in the much-worse idiocy here is that Trump is attempting to give the MVP award to two people, which is, y’know, impossible

I think there have been a couple cases of Co-MVPs. In any case, Trump’s still full of shit.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:31:29am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

Hannity is a special kind of stupid, isn’t he?

Only in that he gets paid for it. There’s plenty of Trump supporters who just do it for free.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:31:39am

re: #361 Lidane

“He shouldn’t have gotten out the way he got out—it was a disaster what he did.”

You mean withdraw on the timetable Bush negotiated and the Iraqis refused to change? Is that what you meant, Donald?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:31:44am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:32:21am

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know I said I was going to stop watching 538’s Now-cast, but…I see tRump’s down to 11%. More importantly, the EVs of the states (plus DC) that they give Hillary a >90% chance of winning add up to 269. Add literally anything else and it’s a done deal.

The first step is admitting you have a problem. (I have the same problem, I can stop anytime—after election day(.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:33:54am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

Hannity is a special kind of stupid, isn’t he?

re: #357 HappyWarrior

He really is. It’s hard to stand out in a network full of right wing bullshit but he stands out for how uniquely stupid he is. I can’t wait to see him act like Trump was never a right winger when he loses.

We need a decision on Hannity’s new nickname: SMIM, “Stupidest Man in Media” or SMIT, “Stupidest Man in Television”? The latter reflects his usual venue, but it may be too much like a real name. SMOT, “Stupidest Man ON Television” might be best of all, but we don’t want to take anything away from his online counterpart, the renowned SMOTI.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:34:57am

re: #367 FormerDirtDart

Wilford demands it. /

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:35:42am

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

We need a decision on Hannity’s new nickname: SMIM, “Stupidest Man in Media” or SMIT, “Stupidest Man in Television”?

He also has a radio show, so SMIM.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:36:24am

re: #363 Skip Intro

Yeah, there is something wrong with Trump saying Obama founded ISIS.

IT FUCKING ISN’T TRUE, you CNBC morons.

I think I’ve found part of the problem with Trump’s “rapid responses.”

Director of Rapid Response Steven Cheung
(announced July 11, 2016) Director of communications and public affairs at Ultimate Fighting Championship from April 2013. Communications advisor to Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst (TX), Sept. 2012-April 2013. Director of rapid response on Dewhurst for Texas (U.S. Senate campaign), July 2011-Aug. 2012. Director of rapid response on Sharron Angle for Senate, Aug.-Nov. 2010. Director of online messaging on Steve Poizner for Governor, July 2009-June 2010. Writer at Solgence Consulting, LLC, Jan.-July 2009. Administrative assistant on John McCain 2008/McCain-Palin 2008, May-Dec. 2008. Legislative and external affairs assistant for the California Integrated Waste Management Board, Aug. 2007-May 2008. Studied government and computer science at Cal State Sacramento.

Oh, and Trump’s fabulous ground game? He only has State Directors in 16 states:
AZ, CO, FL, IN, IA, ME, MI, MN, NV. NH, NC, OH, OR, PA, VA, WI

And I believe he’s losing, tied or only leading within the margin of error in most of them—

such strategic
very coordination
so organization

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 11, 2016 • 10:37:10am

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know I said I was going to stop watching 538’s Now-cast, but…I see tRump’s down to 11%. More importantly, the EVs of the states (plus DC) that they give Hillary a >90% chance of winning add up to 269. Add literally anything else and it’s a done deal.

I know it’s silly, but I’m going with Nate Silver having been bought off by Trump to lower turn-out and so am taking nothing for granted. /

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 11:10:49am

re: #344 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know I said I was going to stop watching 538’s Now-cast, but…I see tRump’s down to 11%. More importantly, the EVs of the states (plus DC) that they give Hillary a >90% chance of winning add up to 269. Add literally anything else and it’s a done deal.


“My name is Reverend, and I’m a number junkie.”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2016 • 11:11:43am

re: #378 BeachDem

I think I’ve found part of the problem with Trump’s “rapid responses.”

Director of Rapid Response Steven Cheung
(announced July 11, 2016) Director of communications and public affairs at Ultimate Fighting Championship from April 2013. Communications advisor to Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst (TX), Sept. 2012-April 2013. Director of rapid response on Dewhurst for Texas (U.S. Senate campaign), July 2011-Aug. 2012. Director of rapid response on Sharron Angle for Senate, Aug.-Nov. 2010. Director of online messaging on Steve Poizner for Governor, July 2009-June 2010. Writer at Solgence Consulting, LLC, Jan.-July 2009. Administrative assistant on John McCain 2008/McCain-Palin 2008, May-Dec. 2008. Legislative and external affairs assistant for the California Integrated Waste Management Board, Aug. 2007-May 2008. Studied government and computer science at Cal State Sacramento.

Oh, and Trump’s fabulous ground game? He only has State Directors in 16 states:
AZ, CO, FL, IN, IA, ME, MI, MN, NV. NH, NC, OH, OR, PA, VA, WI

And I believe he’s losing, tied or only leading within the margin of error in most of them—

such strategic
very coordination
so organization

Alabama is Trump’s firewall.


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