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Golden Showers: The Trump Crisis Day 75; Russia Gate Gets Worse; CNN reports Russia has blackmail material on Trump; Trump never read PDB addendum with blackmail info; Did Buzzfeed do the right thing; Trump vs CNN vs Godwin’s Law; Senate moves to repeal Obamacare; Republicans add trillions to the debt they claim to hate; and more.

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:32:31am

Do this. Keep it quiet.

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:36:40am
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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:38:56am
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:39:08am
The Trump Crisis Day 75

As with Watergate 45 years ago or so, I frequently find myself asking, ‘What did they know and when did they know it?’ The new additional question is, ‘Why didn’t they DO something??!?!?!!?’ The answer I come up with, which would be explanatory if not satisfactory, is, ‘They were laughing too hard.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:40:03am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:42:00am

re: #1 darthstar

This is the one I’m using.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:42:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:44:25am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:45:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:46:25am
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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:47:00am

Worth the read as unnamed sources aren’t unnamed.

Of course, this happened after the election, but still…

It was against this background that Senator John McCain, who had been hearing with growing alarm reports about Mr Trump and the Kremlin, met Sir Andrew Wood, a former British ambassador to Moscow, who had spent 10 years in Russia and is highly respected for his knowledge of Russian affairs, at a security conference in Halifax, Canada.

Sir Andrew stressed to Senator McCain that he had not read the dossier, but vouched for Mr Steele’s professionalism and integrity. The chair of the Senate Armed Forces Committee then sent an emissary to London who picked up the dossier from an intermediary acting on behalf of Mr Steele. The Senator personally took the material to Mr Comey.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:47:40am

Getting ready to reignite the 2nd stage

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:50:21am

good burn

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:53:03am

re: #13 Bubblehead II

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:53:50am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:54:12am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:54:25am

Let’s see. We’ve got Flynn at Putin’s beck and call, Bannon coordinating with Far Right parties and in one case a relative to promote their interests, reports that Carter Page and even Trump stand to profit it sanctions on Russia are lifted, Putin working not only through propaganda and finance, but also through outright coordination of right wing groups in East Europe that may be arming themselves…. Oh, and reports that other ICs are increasingly skittish about sharing info with Trump administration for fear it will simply get leaked to Putin…..

I’d say we really could be at a stage where the militias in the wildernesses of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. need to be closely monitored for communications with people connected to Flynn and/or Russia. I’m feeling paranoid. But I increasingly think the pissing thing and even the John Lewis tweets are masking some truly terrible stuff that is actually happening. Sorry. Going to move away from the computer for awhile.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:55:26am

Starting deployment.

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:56:03am

re: #18 Bubblehead II

Starting deployment.

link please - I love watching these things

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:56:12am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:56:43am

re: #19 darthstar

link please - I love watching these things

spacex.com

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:56:48am

re: #19 darthstar

link please - I love watching these things

spacex.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:56:49am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
INTELLIGENCE INSIDERS NOW CLAIM THE TRUMP DOSSIER IS “A COMPLETE FRAUD!” @OANN

Well, looks like the Donald and his team have found some of those “lying, corrupt” intelligence operatives they were talking about last week.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:57:17am

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Let’s see. We’ve got Flynn at Putin’s beck and call, Bannon coordinating with Far Right parties and in one case a relative to promote their interests, reports that Carter Page and even Trump stand to profit it sanctions on Russia are lifted, Putin working not only through propaganda and finance, but also through outright coordination of right wing groups in East Europe that may be arming themselves….

I’d say we really could be at a stage where the militias in the wildernesses of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. need to be closely monitored for communications with people connected to Flynn and/or Russia. I’m feeling paranoid. But I increasingly think the pissing thing and even the John Lewis tweets are masking some truly terrible stuff that is actually happening. Sorry. Going to move away from the computer for awhile.

Barefoot, you’re not the only one feeling this way. My Spidey Sense is telling me that there is going to be a lot of brutal stuff going down in DC starting Friday. I fully expect a police riot to go after the protesters…

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 10:58:15am

re: #19 darthstar

link please - I love watching these things

See also video of the launch and the first stage recovery near the end of the last thread. Great Stuff.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:01:14am
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:03:13am

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Let’s see. We’ve got Flynn at Putin’s beck and call, Bannon coordinating with Far Right parties and in one case a relative to promote their interests, reports that Carter Page and even Trump stand to profit it sanctions on Russia are lifted, Putin working not only through propaganda and finance, but also through outright coordination of right wing groups in East Europe that may be arming themselves…. Oh, and reports that other ICs are increasingly skittish about sharing info with Trump administration for fear it will simply get leaked to Putin…..

I’d say we really could be at a stage where the militias in the wildernesses of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. need to be closely monitored for communications with people connected to Flynn and/or Russia. I’m feeling paranoid. But I increasingly think the pissing thing and even the John Lewis tweets are masking some truly terrible stuff that is actually happening. Sorry. Going to move away from the computer for awhile.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:03:54am

I love the SpaceX control room. Everyone has a keyboard, mouse and monitors. Very clean.

Remember all the metal cabinetry, consoles, wiring, dials, toggle switches, push-buttons and CRTs from Mercury up to the Saturn moon launches?

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:05:10am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

On the other hand, Mr. D’Souza, you are a nasty, bitter young man who is projecting in Technicolor™.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:05:56am

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

On the other hand, Mr. D’Souza, you are a nasty, bitter young man who is projecting in Technicolor™.

Actually Dimwit D’Stupid wishes he was a white man…

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:11:37am

Cool…I was able to rewind, watch the launch and the first stage reentry and landing on the barge.

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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:12:22am

re: #28 ObserverArt

I love the SpaceX control room. Everyone has a keyboard, mouse and monitors. Very clean.

Remember all the metal cabinetry, consoles, wiring, dials, toggle switches, push-buttons and CRTs from Mercury up to the Saturn moon launches?

And almost nobody’s tweeting.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:12:35am

When Glenn Greenwald sycophants attack.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:12:40am

re: #30 Joe Bacon

Actually Dimwit D’Stupid wishes he was a white man…

Yeah, he’s sorta like Uncle Ruckus.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:13:00am

re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus

Notice the different expressions on their faces?

Mr. Lewis: I’m doing what’s right and I won’t back down.

Mr. D’Souza: I just pissed myself. How could this be happening to me, a good American?

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:14:07am

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

On the other hand, Mr. D’Souza, you are a nasty, bitter young man who is projecting in Technicolor™.

He ain’t that young.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:14:17am

All satellites successfully deployed. Sweet.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:14:21am

All ten satellites deployed. Mission was a success.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:15:53am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Donald was busy dodging flying STD’s that week.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:16:53am

re: #35 Romantic Heretic

Notice the different expressions on their faces?

Mr. Lewis: I’m doing what’s right and I won’t back down.

Mr. D’Souza: I just pissed myself. How could this be happening to me, a good American?

Also the fact that it’s pretty clear that Lewis has had the shit beat out of him in several of the mugshots.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:17:08am

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

All satellites successfully deployed. Sweet.

re: #38 Bubblehead II

All ten satellites deployed. Mission was a success.

Yay!!!

I guess they lost communications there for a bit so we didn’t get to see any of them deployed, but overall getting to see that first stage landing and a beautiful launch was was impressive.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:18:31am

What the GOP Congress will spend four years investigating:

Facebook Post

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:20:52am
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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:23:48am

re: #41 ObserverArt

Yay!!!

I guess they lost communications there for a bit so we didn’t get to see any of them deployed, but overall getting to see that first stage landing and a beautiful launch was was impressive.

One of the ground stations had technical difficulties, so yeah we missed out on the deployments.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:24:01am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:27:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:28:23am

re: #46 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]

An old hot mayo packet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:29:09am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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It’s pretty pathetic that they do given that Greenwald was once a hawk too and derided Bush’s left wing critics. Somehow they forget that when giving you a hard time.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:29:22am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

An old hot mayo packet.

Eeeew. So sad! ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:31:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:31:43am

It does just boggle the mind. People say they like Obama and approve of the job he’s doing and they elect a guy who not only opposes what Obama is doing but derides what he’s done as a failure. Honestly, I have a lot of beef with far left and far right at this point. The far right for putting Trump us by nomination and voting. The far left by because Hilary wasn’t pure enough for them engaging in false equivalencies and even spreading the same right wing lies.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:32:16am

Learnin’ things and stuff, who needs it?

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:33:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:34:30am

re: #53 De Kolta Chair

Learnin’ things and stuff, who needs it?

[Embedded content]

It’s the same with the nuts who say you can’t pray in school anymore. Obviously someone never had a seventh period Math pop quiz on a Friday.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:35:15am

And I’m pretty sure that did happen to me since I did have seventh period math in seventh grade and the teacher was tough so I’m sure he no doubt did a pop quiz on a Friday on us at least one time.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:38:13am
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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:38:48am

re: #28 ObserverArt

I love the SpaceX control room. Everyone has a keyboard, mouse and monitors. Very clean.

Remember all the metal cabinetry, consoles, wiring, dials, toggle switches, push-buttons and CRTs from Mercury up to the Saturn moon launches?

It’s a 400 pound guy in his mom’s basement!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:39:29am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Yeah we’re to believe that she just visited the Trump Tower and that was it.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:39:57am
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:40:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:41:03am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Oh the drama. Meanwhile you attach yourselves to a guy who actually does kill dissidents. Really Julian and WL, fuck you and your bullshit. You’re not a watchdog. You’re a tool of the Kremlin.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:45:44am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

@wikileaks
NOTE: No present WikiLeaks staff, including our editor, have medical, psychological or drug conditions which could lead to sudden death.
3:37 PM - 13 Jan 2017
9,480 9,480 Retweets 15,137 15,137 likes

On the contrary, slipping up enough to embarrass a Russian
boss could easily lead to sudden death.

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KGxvi  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:45:48am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

It’s the same with the nuts who say you can’t pray in school anymore. Obviously someone never had a seventh period Math pop quiz on a Friday.

I don’t know if it’s a product of time or location, but I don’t ever remember having religious fundamentalists pipe up in class that the teacher was lying, in either high school or undergrad (law school had plenty of debates where law and policy crossed, but that’s a different beast)

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:48:03am

Is it weird how wikileaks calls out for the editor specifically in that tweet?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:50:06am

re: #64 KGxvi

I don’t know if it’s a product of time or location, but I don’t ever remember having religious fundamentalists pipe up in class that the teacher was lying, in either high school or undergrad (law school had plenty of debates where law and policy crossed, but that’s a different beast)

Most of the religious conservatives I knew as a kid wouldn’t have been going to a public school anyhow. I do remember debates but that was mostly in social studies classes.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:55:13am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

They didn’t mind speaking up in High School, at least in Colorado Springs.

OU was a different story. They generally were more quiet.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:56:09am

Afternoon Lizardim.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:59:23am

re: #67 Ziggy_TARDIS

They didn’t mind speaking up in High School, at least in Colorado Springs.

OU was a different story. They generally were more quiet.

Most of the religious conservatives I knew as a kid were Catholic traditionalists. Their parents had a problem with the public school system for whatever reason. I don’t remember anyone objecting when evolution was taught. I certainly don’t think anyone was “afraid” to question it either.

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Alephnaught  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:59:31am

re: #3 darthstar

“And I am telling you… I’m not going…”

Jennifer Holliday And I Am Telling You Live Tony Awards 1982

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allegro  Jan 14, 2017 • 11:59:49am

re: #64 KGxvi

I don’t know if it’s a product of time or location, but I don’t ever remember having religious fundamentalists pipe up in class that the teacher was lying, in either high school or undergrad (law school had plenty of debates where law and policy crossed, but that’s a different beast)

Most every semester of Bio 101 (required of all students, not just science majors) I would have one or two pop off when we got to evolution. They’d be all excited, clearly having waited for juuuuust that moment.

They never did it a second time.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:03:14pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:06:33pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Evangelicals here.

The Catholics Traditionalists were relatively quiet.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:08:35pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:09:25pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

The cats are trying to trip him. Our dog does that exact thing.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:09:57pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Speaking of which: Y’all remember that John Lewis wrote an award-winning graphic novel about his life and the history of the civil rights movement. It’s worth reading: topshelfcomix.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:11:55pm

re: #75 Ziggy_TARDIS

The cats are trying to trip him. Our dog does that exact thing.

Cats herd you.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:14:08pm

re: #77 Unshaken Defiance

Cats herd you.

They’re just trying to teach you how to cat.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:15:40pm

OK. Just made my first order with a groceries delivery website; delivery is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, between 13:00-14:00.

While this may not seem like a big deal to many Lizards, here in the Czech Republic, it is; it’s pretty much an entirely new concept. I’ve mentioned it to students of mine, and they were all like “What?! How bizarre!” I think it’s still gonna take awhile for people here to really get into it. Tesco, the British retail giant, does have a grocery delivery service, but only in certain areas of the country, and my area isn’t part of that, unfortunately; it’s largely confined to Prague/Central Bohemia and the Brno metropolitan region.

One of my students has used it before; she was the one who recommended it to me. She swears by it, as she can make her order, than have it delivered at a specific time, usually the next day in her case. They still have the option to pay cash, which is sort of cool and that right there might help lead to more widespread acceptance of the concept as this is still very much a cash-and-carry society.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:16:10pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:22:40pm

re: #76 scottslemmons

Speaking of which: Y’all remember that John Lewis wrote an award-winning graphic novel about his life and the history of the civil rights movement. It’s worth reading: topshelfcomix.com

The Tweeter has a byline on that. Thanks for the link.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:26:44pm

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

I’d say we really could be at a stage where the militias in the wildernesses of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. need to be closely monitored for communications with people connected to Flynn and/or Russia. I’m feeling paranoid. But I increasingly think the pissing thing and even the John Lewis tweets are masking some truly terrible stuff that is actually happening. Sorry. Going to move away from the computer for awhile.

I’m hoping (no degree of confidence really, but hope springs eternal) that those wilderness militias might let out a loud cry of “WOLVERINES!!” and spring into action against the Russian puppets.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:31:26pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

The Tweeter has a byline on that. Thanks for the link.

It’s a three-parter, and hence maybe steeper in price than you may be able to get all at once. But it was a glorious book and a great eye-opener to history. High school history never really got much past WWII, and reading about all the stuff that the history textbooks leave out was exhilarating, depressing, and inspiring…

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:51:17pm
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darthstar  Jan 14, 2017 • 12:53:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:00:30pm

Just got a smack upside the head that said “Hey, you’re old!”

We’re watching the movie Battleship and hearing these WWII veterans on the USS Missouri saying “let’s rock’n’roll”.

Yeah (and I am totally serious saying this), no matter your age, let’s keep doing exactly that now more than ever in the face of what’s coming.

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Tigger2  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:05:32pm

re: #42 Timothy Watson

What the GOP Congress will spend four years investigating:

[Embedded content]

Hope it was Trump.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:06:42pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just got a smack upside the head that said “Hey, you’re old!”

We’re watching the movie Battleship and hearing these WWII veterans on the USS Missouri saying “let’s rock’n’roll”.

Yeah (and I am totally serious saying this), no matter your age, let’s keep doing exactly that now more than ever in the face of what’s coming.

1yj5xvSfnMuX+ia81ZwKUti7UqIlWZygX5+rPJ+gqJZl7PlsJtyNQfZK0+2q0UNT

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:19:00pm

re: #82 sagehen

I’m hoping (no degree of confidence really, but hope springs eternal) that those wilderness militias might let out a loud cry of “WOLVERINES!!” and spring into action against the Russian puppets.

Unfortunately it’s looking like the RW militias ARE the Russian puppets.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 14, 2017 • 1:24:55pm

re: #78 thedopefishlives

So does our Border Collie.


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