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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:27:41pm

I’m still trying to figure out what went wrong with the previous comment thread. There’s probably something in one of the comments that’s causing it, but I haven’t found it yet.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:27:49pm

Is this thread safe?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:28:52pm

It has to be something in a comment - if I load the thread without comments everything’s fine.

I’ve never seen this happen before.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:29:44pm
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calochortus  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:29:46pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It has to be something in a comment - if I load the thread without comments everything’s fine.

I’ve never seen this happen before.

I’d blame immigrants if I were you.
/

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:30:55pm

re: #5 calochortus

The Deep State bugged the thread

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ObserverArt  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:31:00pm

re: #5 calochortus

I’d blame immigrants if I were you.
/

The Russians!

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

In last night’s overnight thread, I loaded it once and music started to play… though there was no obvious video playing. This was in Spy mode, and I only load 25 items. The music eventually stopped, I have no idea which comment could have caused it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:31:14pm

It’s been a hell of a week, hasn’t it?

Tuesday, Trump wowed the easily wowed with a solidly mediocre performance reading the same old shit, but without shouting, and everyone was talking how Presidential he sounded.

Wednesday, the wheels start wobbling.

Saturday morning, the wheels fall off again.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:32:30pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I’m still trying to figure out what went wrong with the previous comment thread. There’s probably something in one of the comments that’s causing it, but I haven’t found it yet.

I’d look around #68 - 69, that’s where the problem seems to have started.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:32:48pm

Ah ha. Found the problem. It was a messed up copy/paste in Shiplord Kirel’s private comment. Fixed now.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:32:59pm

re: #9 Blind Frog Belly White

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:19pm

re: #4 Kragar

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Is it full of the feels?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:27pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ah ha. Found the problem. It was a messed up copy/paste in Shiplord Kirel’s private comment. Fixed now.

To the stocks for him!

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:28pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Hey, I’ve got an idea. Let’s repost every comment from that thread and see if we can break this one too.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:30pm

Our software is evermore gaining complexity… the internet is so overwhelmed with bots of this and that type…

Someday, we’re going to wake up and find that our interconnected computers have gained self-awareness and no longer do what we tell them to do.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:34pm

re: #9 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s been a hell of a week, hasn’t it?

Tuesday, Trump wowed the easily wowed with a solidly mediocre performance reading the same old shit, but without shouting, and everyone was talking how Presidential he sounded.

Wednesday, the wheels start wobbling.

Saturday morning, the wheels fall off again.

We managed to go three days without Trump wigging out on Twitter and almost 24 hours with pundits hopeful we were finally getting to see a presidential Trump…

And then the WaPo story about Sessions dropped and Trump was triggered.

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wrenchwench  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:33:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:34:08pm

re: #4 Kragar

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You can only go so long making movies about a man who doesn’t age, starring the same actor.

BTW, nobody’s ever explained how Professor X survived Last Stand.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:34:36pm

re: #16 freetoken

Our software is evermore gaining complexity… the internet is so overwhelmed with bots of this and that type…

Someday, we’re going to wake up and find that our interconnected computers have gained self-awareness and no longer do what we tell them to do.

Scarier thing to contemplate: The computers already have acquired sentience and just don’t care enough about us to do anything but sit and watch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:34:36pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

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You’ve goat to be kidding.

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ObserverArt  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:34:53pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ah ha. Found the problem. It was a messed up copy/paste in Shiplord Kirel’s private comment. Fixed now.

I didn’t know he was Russian.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:35:00pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

You can only go so long making movies about a man who doesn’t age, starring the same actor.

BTW, nobody’s ever explained how Professor X survived Last Stand.

Timey-wimey…stuff.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:35:03pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

Oh god yes. Its just brutal, and I’m not talking about the violence.

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:35:49pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ah ha. Found the problem. It was a messed up copy/paste in Shiplord Kirel’s private comment. Fixed now.

I still blame Obama….

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:36:02pm

The BREXITeers were warned they were waking up a nationalistic nightmare:

Tight deadline for talks after nationalist surge in Northern Ireland

Northern Irish leaders prepared on Saturday for three weeks of challenging talks to save their devolved government after a snap election that could have dramatic implications for the politics and constitutional status of the British province.

The pro-British Democratic Unionist Party narrowly remained the largest party after the closest-ever election for the provincial assembly. But surging Irish nationalists Sinn Fein came within one seat of their rivals to deny unionist politicians a majority for the first time since Ireland was partitioned in 1921.

Major policy differences between the sides risk paralyzing government, dividing communities and creating an unwelcome distraction for Prime Minister Theresa May as she prepares to launch Britain’s formal divorce proceedings from the European Union later this month.

[…]

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:36:06pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

You can only go so long making movies about a man who doesn’t age, starring the same actor.

BTW, nobody’s ever explained how Professor X survived Last Stand.

From Wiki:

In an after-credits scene, Xavier speaks to Moira McTaggert through the body of a comatose man, implying that his consciousness survived by transferring itself into the body (an action that Xavier had discussed at the beginning of the film as part of an ethics class, the question being if it would be ethically right for a mutant like himself to attempt such a transference, noting that the man in question was virtually brain-dead).

On the DVD Commentary, it is revealed that the body on Muir Island was a “P. Xavier”. One of the writers noted that this is an original twin brother, written for the scene, who was born braindead (due to Professor X’s amount of power). This brother can apparently walk but due to being in coma for a long time and braindead since birth, the brother is alluded to be in a restricted movement. This is an example of a comic book death; this scene was not in the script but was secretly added during filming.[1] Additionally, there is nothing in the film to suggest that the Juggernaut is related to Xavier, other than perhaps a shared British nationality.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:36:49pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Scarier thing to contemplate: The computers already have acquired sentience and just don’t care enough about us to do anything but sit and watch.

What do computers eat for popcorn?

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:37:43pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Its set about 15 years in the future, and they have an explanation for what happened and why he looks older

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:38:12pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

It’s Goat Exan time.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:38:14pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

What do computers eat for popcorn?

Lolcats.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:38:27pm

BTW, there is no “end credits” sequence for Logan. When credits roll, its done.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:38:53pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:39:06pm

re: #24 Kragar

Oh god yes. Its just brutal, and I’m not talking about the violence.

So is it really the end? Has Jackman really taken his last paycheck?

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:40:00pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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If Tom Clancy had ever submitted a manuscript describing the current administration, the publishers would have told him to pulp it and write something more believable.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:40:26pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

Barring “alternate time lines” or expanded universes, its done.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:40:41pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

If Tom Clancy had ever submitted a manuscript describing the current administration, the publishers would have told him to pulp it and write something more believable.

As a former Clancy fan, I was thinking the same thing. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:42:05pm

re: #37 Timothy Watson

As a former Clancy fan, I was thinking the same thing. :)

“Of course Truth is stranger than Fiction. Fiction has to make sense.” - Someone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:43:02pm

re: #27 Timothy Watson

From Wiki:

So, they broke his back, too?

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:44:22pm

re: #36 Kragar

Barring “alternate time lines” or expanded universes, its done.

Or rather, it’s done as far as we know how Logan’s story ends. But I sorta have doubts that Fox is gonna retire cash cow that easily.

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:45:06pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

“Of course Truth is stranger than Fiction. Fiction has to make sense.” - Someone.

Mark Twain, I’ve seen cited.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:46:35pm

re: #16 freetoken

Yeah, but if all that intelligence is based on the information available on all those interconnected computers, that thing’s going to be mighty gullible and have some very weird ideas about sex.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:46:43pm
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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:47:27pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

Yup, but as far as Jackman as Logan, its over.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:48:37pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:49:35pm

re: #44 Kragar

Yup, but as far as Jackman as Logan, its over.

It’s been a good run (heh, heh). I remember seeing the original one when The Boys were still single digit years old.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:51:19pm
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calochortus  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:51:44pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

That plot sounds stunningly stupid.

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retired cynic  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:52:07pm

re: #47 jaunte

OMG, that explains a lot of sick stuff!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:52:54pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

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Is Bannon’s second favorite book The Turner Diaries?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:53:30pm

re: #48 calochortus

That plot sounds stunningly stupid.

So much for fiction having to make sense?

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:53:50pm

This got some attention yesterday:

EU parliament member: Women should earn less because they are weaker, smaller, less intelligent

A radical Polish European Parliament lawmaker has launched another sexist tirade, calling it a “20th-century stereotype that women have the same intellectual potential as men,” and that the stereotype “must be destroyed because it is not true.”

Janusz Korwin-Mikke’s insults on Friday in Warsaw came two days after he told the European parliament that “women must earn less than men because they are weaker, they are smaller, they are less intelligent.”

[…]

In 2015, the foreign minister of Poland apologized after Korwin-Mikke raised his arm in a Nazi salute during a debate on plans for standardized ticketing on trips across EU borders.

[…]

To me, the important thing that gets overlooked is that a guy like this is where he is because Poles voted for him.

Hardly we should be surprised that the US elected (yeah, I know, not the popular vote) someone like Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:53:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:53:53pm

re: #51 Timothy Watson

So much for fiction having to make sense?

HAR!

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:53:56pm

re: #49 retired cynic

I wonder if this “work from home” order is related.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:54:54pm

re: #44 Kragar

Yup, but as far as Jackman as Logan, its over.

It really is amazing how much has happened since that first film. And I have to give props to Jackman if he holds to his vow that this is the end of the road for him as Wolverine, as it seems rare anymore that an actor quits a role in the face of however much money a studio is willing to offer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:56:27pm

I suppose he could always read Lucifer’s Hammer, where the black people all turn cannibal and the good white farmers have to make a stand against them and defend the last nuclear powerplant.

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:56:29pm

re: #48 calochortus

That plot sounds stunningly stupid.

Of course, but exactly the sort of overheated racist-apocalyptic trash the “alt-right” eats up by the kiloton. One of Steve Bannon’s favorites? Quelle surprise…

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calochortus  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:56:33pm

re: #52 freetoken

The thing is, if women/brown people/Muslims/whatever were actually inferior there would be no problem with competition because they’d be less able to compete.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:56:35pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

My daughter says she hopes they make an X-23 movie next.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:56:50pm

re: #55 jaunte

I wonder if this “work from home” order is related.

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I think a bigger question is was that email sent out to all employees…or just ones that their bosses felt might have an issue with the EO?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:57:08pm

Shocker:

William F. Buckley, Jr. praised the book in 2004 as “a great novel” that raised questions on how to respond to massive illegal immigration.[9] In 2005 the conservative Chilton Williamson praised the book as “one of the most uncompromising works of literary reaction in the 20th century.”[10] In 2001 the Southern Poverty Law Center described it as “widely revered by American white supremacists and is a sort of anti-immigration analog to The Turner Diaries,”[11] and as recently as October 2015 condemned the novel as “the favorite racist fantasy of the anti-immigrant movement in the US.”[12]

The book returned to the bestseller list in 2011.[1]

en.wikipedia.org

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fern01  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:57:27pm

re: #55 jaunte

What does it cost to have all these meetings in Florida instead of DC? THis new way of doing business isn’t a money saver.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:57:28pm

There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:58:27pm

re: #63 fern01

What does it cost to have all these meetings in Florida instead of DC? THis new way of doing business isn’t a money saver.

That’s okay. Trump’s white. Travel costs don’t matter again.
//

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:58:37pm

re: #60 Kragar

My daughter says she hopes they make an X-23 movie next.

I’d like to see that. Perhaps finally get around to featuring characters outside the main core. The fact that Deadpool was such a huge hit would seem to indicate that it’s safe for Fox to venture outside its safe zone.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:59:16pm

re: #50 Timothy Watson

Is Bannon’s second favorite book The Turner Diaries?

I thought it was The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:59:32pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 2:59:52pm

re: #64 jaunte

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There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.

Wait, wasn’t their supposed symbol of pride that they’re “non-violent”? What sort of non-violent protest involves people showing up armed?

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:00:28pm

re: #63 fern01

What does it cost to have all these meetings in Florida instead of DC? THis new way of doing business isn’t a money saver.

It’s a private club so it’s easier for him to meet with his Russian handlers and collect bribes out of the public eye.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:00:29pm
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fern01  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:00:29pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s okay. Trump’s white. Travel costs don’t matter again.
//

It really is as simple as black and white - silly me.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:02:22pm

re: #64 jaunte

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There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.

Nothing says “Real American Warrior” like a leather apron skirt, shin guards on bare legs, and a scooter helmet.

I think I found the problem: No sense of self whatsoever…

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fern01  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:02:49pm

re: #68 jaunte

I notice all the sign handles appear to be made of wood - all the messges for the women’s march said only use cardboard

There really is one rule for the right wing & another for everyone else.

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William Lewis  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:02:55pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

I suppose he could always read Lucifer’s Hammer, where the black people all turn cannibal and the good white farmers have to make a stand against them and defend the last nuclear powerplant.

Don’t forget the homebrewed Mustard Gas that the white farmers use.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:03:38pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Wait, wasn’t their supposed symbol of pride that they’re “non-violent”? What sort of non-violent protest involves people showing up armed?

They’re the victims, so they have to arm up to make sure they’re not the victims. At least I think that’s the logic.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:05:02pm

re: #76 jaunte

They’re the victims, so they have to arm up to make sure they’re not the victims. At least I think that’s the logic.

Ayeah, I figured that was probably the logic. “Oh, those violent libruls will probably show up, we gotta be ready to ‘defend’ ourselves.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:08:00pm

Tactical gear for the emotionally stunted.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:09:21pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:10:04pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

Tactical gear for the emotionally stunted.

CosPlay for the keyboard warriors, young and old.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:10:16pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:11:49pm

re: #64 jaunte

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There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:12:00pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

And let’s not forget how much the Trump Organization makes on room rentals, food, drinks, etc for all of the government personnel who have to tag along with the shitgibbon every weekend.

Trump’s making millions of dollars a year out of this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:12:24pm

re: #81 jaunte

Oh God, please don’t let Trump start running with this one.

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:13:38pm

re: #81 jaunte

I’ve been saying this for over a year now, but I really want Obama’s first book to be titled ‘Can You Believe This Shit?”

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:14:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:14:29pm

On the New York Times front page they mention the phone tap story.
nytimes.com

And from The Wall Street Journal too.

wsj.com

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:14:35pm

re: #80 MsJ

They’ll be bringing guns soon enough. In shitholes like Florida they can even use them, then claim self defense.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:15:43pm

re: #79 MsJ

Yet ironically wasn’t it Trump who said he wouldn’t allow some of these media mega-mergers to occur? Hmmm….

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:18:17pm

re: #64 jaunte

Pro tip. For those who may need to protect themselves only.
If confronted and attacked by a fool with a shield, duck once away from the club, step very very close, inside the club swing, grab that shield and twist it 180 degrees or more. If you have some skill-instep crunch the knee in the same motion.

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Interesting Times  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:19:27pm

Paging freetoken:

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:19:54pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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[deleted]  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:20:02pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:21:51pm

re: #90 Unshaken Defiance

Pro tip. For those who may to protect themselves only.
If confronted and attacked by a fool with a shield, duck once away from the club, step very very close, inside the club swing, grab that shield and twist it 180 degrees or more. If you have some skill-instep crunch the knee in the same motion.

…and have a lawyer’s name written on your hand because you’ll probably get arrested for assault even if it’s self defense. :(

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:22:49pm

A good run down…

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:25:29pm
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calochortus  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:25:39pm

I have a really stupid question about Twitter timestamps. If someone in NY tweets at 9 a.m. and someone in CA sees it, does it say 9 a.m. or 6 a.m.? If the shown times are local, what if the person in CA posts it on LGF? What time would that show?

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:25:40pm

re: #93 scottslemmons

No. Delete that shit.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:26:09pm

re: #58 Jay C

I’m a bit caught up on aesthetics as politics recently, but I feel it’s something to consider.

(note: there is an interesting documentary about art and the NSDAP—the Aesthetics of Doom—that addresses this. It’s also touched on in Eco’s essay, 13 Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt.)

These are people who don’t like complexity, and most especially don’t like context or change of perspective. They pursue confirmation in their emotional lives much like they pursue confirmation in their epistemology: working backwards to find “truth” from what they take to be a priori valid. Most importantly, they operate from the assumption that their feelings are objective, and thus it is a Good for them to feel at ease.

Think about how that must effect how they both consume and create art. What kind of stories will they find accessible, moving? Who can they identify with as a protagonist? How do they address abstraction and the surreal?

Their politics aren’t really politics, just ego-fulfillment—hence the vast conspiracies that are holding them down, and the power fantasies of what they could have when they “win”—and avoiding self-reflection and empathy—everybody else is irrational, emotional, and unworthy. Their art isn’t really art, it’s also ego-fulfillment and avoidance of self-reflection and empathy.

They like banal, sentimental art that makes them feel good. Stuff that makes them think differently, stuff that makes them feel heavier things…no. This is why they’ve latched on to Cultural Bolshevism/Marxism: it makes their aesthetic politics *and* adversarial: to non-conform from a standard set of tropes, styles, and images is to be a moral hazard and/or a psychological deviant. Anybody that presents the world differently is part of a conspiracy to destroy the world.

Of course they like shitty power fantasies about violence and sex. They view their real lives as some kind of pulp-heroic self-narrative, in which they’re both super powerful and put upon, and everybody that stands in their way is majescule-W Wrong and gets what they deserve.

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William Lewis  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:26:18pm

OT because I need to keep my sanity.

Practicing with GIMP this afternoon. Anyone think this is an interesting result?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:27:02pm

re: #97 calochortus

I have a really stupid question about Twitter timestamps. If someone in NY tweets at 9 a.m. and someone in CA sees it, does it say 9 a.m. or 6 a.m.? If the shown times are local, what if the person in CA posts it on LGF? What time would that show?

Twitter’s timestamps show the time it was tweeted, localized to the time of the person viewing it.

LGF timestamps are always in Pacific time.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:27:56pm

To clarify - a tweet posted in an LGF comment shows Twitter’s localized time.

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calochortus  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:28:37pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

Thank you.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:28:39pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

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It’s hard to tell if there are people who are seriously inquiring Trump about this because they want to catch him in a lie…or because they seriously believe that he’s the “victim” of a grand conspiracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:31:28pm

re: #100 William Lewis

OT because I need to keep my sanity.

Practicing with GIMP this afternoon. Anyone think this is an interesting result?

[Embedded content]

Looks good.
I like GIMP, a lot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:32:02pm

$10 says someone has sealed Trumps android phone away in a secure location.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:32:47pm

Of course, it is highly unlikely that anyone will publicly answer these questions
Ten Questions for President Trump - Lawfare By Benjamin Wittes

Here are my questions, about all of which I am, I want to stress, entirely serious:

1. Are you making the allegation that President Obama conducted electronic surveillance of Trump Tower in your capacity as President of the United States based on intelligence or law enforcement information available to you in that capacity?
2. If so—that is, if you have executive branch information validating that either a FISA wiretap or a Title III wiretap took place—have you reviewed the applications for the surveillance and have you or your lawyers concluded that they lack merit?

7. If you were tweeting not based on knowledge received as chief executive of the United States, were you tweeting in your capacity as a reader of Breitbart or a listener of Mark Levin’s radio show?

OK, I gave you a taste, but you’ll need to give them their page views for the rest.
It’s only fair

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:34:07pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

That’s Cats
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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:34:29pm

re: #91 Interesting Times

Anthropologists have, as a whole, pretty much dismissed “race” as a biological concept. It is a cultural construction.

That of course runs counter to what society has taught itself for generations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:34:33pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:35:17pm

It’s apparent that Bannon has Trump’s ear over Preibus.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:35:37pm

re: #108 Unshaken Defiance

Aww. That is a sweet picture. Thanks I needed some sweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:36:14pm

re: #111 MsJ

Sure, why not?

Let’s just piss off our Allies even more…

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:36:17pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

LGF timestamps are always in Pacific time.

Damn Left Coasters, it’s always about them
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:38:20pm

re: #111 MsJ

It’s apparent that Bannon has Trump’s ear over Preibus.

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You know, when I was younger and dumber, I used to say I’d like to see wingnuts get their way just to watch them deal with the consequences.

Why in the holy fuck did reality look upon such remarks and declare “CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!”?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:39:22pm

re: #111 MsJ

It’s apparent that Bannon has Trump’s ear over Preibus.

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Yeah that’ll show them.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

Charles,
I just made a $170 order at Amazon. Started ordering things and then realized I had not used the LGF Amazon Associate link, but had not yet clicked on “check out”.
So, I then clicked on the associate link, THEN clicked on check out, logged in, and made my order.
Hope that worked!

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:39:37pm

re: #94 stpaulbear

…and have a lawyer’s name written on your hand because you’ll probably get arrested for assault even if it’s self defense. :(

Very true. I’ll take court instead of a beat down. Good attorney. Plus cell phone witnesses. If I go to another rally or march, these days I’d FB live and have my GoPro on my chest. And be there with friends.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:40:54pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

I would be fine with that if the consequences only affected THEM.

Unfortunately, they affect all of us.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:42:18pm

About the only good thing right now is that most of these headlines about budget cuts are only involving Trump’s proposed budget, which seems to be DOA in Congress. The question is how much of this craziness will actually be taken up by the nutters on Capital Hill.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:42:46pm

WARNING - Shameless self recognition ahead!

I have crossed 50 000 Karma!!

Thanks everybody. I will soon celebrate my 7th year here. Glad to be part of the group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:43:13pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:44:40pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like Stephen King’s tweet except for the ice cream.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:45:11pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

et tu, HW?

:D

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:47:07pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

et tu, HW?

:D

Lo Siento :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:47:24pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Lo Siento :)

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:49:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:49:25pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Charles,
I just made a $170 order at Amazon. Started ordering things and then realized I had not used the LGF Amazon Associate link, but had not yet clicked on “check out”.
So, I then clicked on the associate link, THEN clicked on check out, logged in, and made my order.
Hope that worked!

Thanks!

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:52:08pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

So, it’s a French

Turner Diaries

.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:52:31pm

I’m fairly certain Trump’s concern isn’t that he was wire-tapped, it’s that he has no idea how widespread any information gleaned from such has spread.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:54:14pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

If only we had a Dept. of Justice to investigate these things.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:55:04pm
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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:55:05pm

It’s hard to guess where all this will end… except in a further mess. Messes beget messes.

All those people who voted for Trump will not go away. True, many just pulled the (R) lever, and others were so programmed against Clinton that it didn’t matter who the Republican happened to be.

Still, Trump had his millions of supporters. True believers in the nativist ideology. Delusional creationists who think Trump is just another David With Sins.

This is our society, in which we live and will continue to face even if Trump gets run out of office.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:56:38pm

What Happens When We Don’t Believe the President’s Oath?

“…the President is less of a liar than a bullshitter, in the sense described by the philosopher Harry Frankfurt. A bullshitter in this technical sense is a person who does not aim to obscure the truth so much as operates without any relationship to truth whatsoever. The liar, Frankfurt says, must have some knowledge of the facts at hand, in order to conceal them. But to the bullshitter, facts are nothing more than an irrelevance.

In Frankfurt’s argument, this is what makes bullshit dangerous: the liar makes the key concession that “there are indeed facts that are in some way determinable or knowable.” Bullshit, on the other hand, glibly rejects the value and even existence of knowable facts.

Trump’s bullshit raised questions of its own when he was in the running for the presidency. But now that he has sworn the oath of office, we are forced to confront what it means for a bullshitter to have promised to faithfully execute the office of President and to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and the country’s larger legal system. Bullshit, after all, is kind of the opposite of law, which is an organized system of meaning….”

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bratwurst  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:57:56pm

I think there is much to this:

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:59:15pm

Hah. Great thought by Betty Cracker at BJ:

Not that I’m saying this will happen, but it would be sweet karmic justice if an article by some drooling loon at Breitbart goaded Trump into rage-tweets that set events in motion that ultimately unravel his administration. I’ll wear a colander on my head for a week in homage to the Flying Spaghetti Monster should this occur.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 3:59:16pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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The reality is most wingnuts only want a functioning government in one narrow instance: When they’re in charge and only for the purpose of keeping them in charge. Those “checks and balances” they talked up so much the past 8 years? When a Republican is in charge, they view those as an unnecessary hindrance rather than a vital part of a representative democracy.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:00:00pm
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mmmirele  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:02:14pm

re: #68 jaunte

This is why I tell people “no sticks on signs.” Because you don’t want to be accused of clubbing someone.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:03:08pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Everything that they don’t understand is by definition liberal.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:04:24pm

re: #136 stpaulbear

Hah. Great thought by Betty Cracker at BJ:

Every step of the way, we’ve learned more from Trump’s efforts to hinder investigations into the truth than anything else. Lord knows how things might have played out if he’d been smart enough not to (effectively) declare war on the intel community.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:04:53pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:07:48pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

It’s hard to tell if there are people who are seriously inquiring Trump about this because they want to catch him in a lie…or because they seriously believe that he’s the “victim” of a grand conspiracy.

I really hope that this is a case of “lie”, i.e. there was no “wiretap”, or that Trump’s people were either not involved in any investigation or were hugely peripheral to it, and that our Idiot-in-Chief is merely making a fool out of himself (all to easy, sadly) over “fake news”.

Because I think that the Trump WH is - even at this relatively early date - rapidly getting overwhelmed by the ceaseless beat of Russia-related scandals, and that they will be (if they aren’t already) desperate to cast ANY shred of doubt or deflection they possibly can onto the ongoing stream of corruption charges (which is what they are): and painting the President and his creatures as “victims” is probably the only way they accomplish that.

Well, that, and getting their pals in the “alt-media” to try to cast shade on any and all allegations they can. And given the proclivities of today’s RW media, that’s all too easy - even if stupid crap like that in Comment #81 is typical. Just as they will seize on even the least flaw or inconsistency in any (critical) media charge to discredit the entire thing, they will magnify even the smallest grain of truth in a contrary report to validate their “victimization” claim, or whatever. And the “mainstream” media will probably just go along….

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:10:31pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

The word “liberal” is just an empty set.

Anything they don’t like, they put in that set.

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TedStriker  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:11:43pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Funny how RWNJs are all for the FISA court…except when it’s pointed in their directions, then it’s a liberal tool.

Too bad cognitive dissonance doesn’t hurt more.

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BigPapa  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:12:34pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It has to be something in a comment - if I load the thread without comments everything’s fine.

I’ve never seen this happen before.

KRAGAR!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:12:54pm
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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:16:50pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:17:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:17:30pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:17:54pm

re: #148 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:21:01pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:21:37pm

This…
it is now canon within the realms of reddit and infowars

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:21:38pm

Question. Are Fillion and LePen the only contenders for France to choose from? I know she’s in hot water, too, over spending.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:22:54pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

Sure, why not?

Let’s just piss off our Allies even more…

Apparently Trump really fucked the pooch with Australia. Like ally ending fucking. I read something earlier today.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:23:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:24:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:24:14pm

re: #155 MsJ

Apparently Trump really fucked the pooch with Australia. Like ally ending fucking. I read something earlier today.

Damn. The Aussies are an important ally.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:25:34pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I thought the Australian thing had blown over… haven’t seen any headlines about this in a while.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:26:04pm

re: #153 FormerDirtDart

This…
it is now canon within the realms of reddit and infowars

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It’s been a matter of faith for weeks now that Obama set up, if he’s not actively coordinating, the constant compromising leaks of information to the press. The far-right believes that its an effort to undermine a wildly popular conservative president while the far-left believes its a rearguard action by the “neoliberals” to undo the damage done to them by the election.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:26:05pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Damn. The Aussies are an important ally.

He’s going to ‘stand up to China’ by pissing off every one of our allies in the region.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:27:45pm

re: #161 Timothy Watson

He’s going to ‘stand up to China’ by pissing off every one of our allies in the region.

Last I’d heard, Japan isn’t overly thrilled with his junking TPP and his war of words with China.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:28:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:28:42pm
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ozharas  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:29:31pm

We’re not thrilled about threats to our fuel supply, for one thing.

abc.net.au

Security experts say Donald Trump’s election as US President warrants another look at Australia’s fuel security and could justify another Defence Force Posture Review.

Australian Strategic Policy Institute expert Andrew Davies said the international security situation had “certainly taken a turn for the worse” after Mr Trump’s election.

“If you look at some of the Trump administration rhetoric about the South China Sea for example, you could easily see them stumbling into a confrontation with China,” Mr Davies said.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:29:49pm

The thing with Australia was over the refugee swap deal. As weird of a deal that it was, it did serve some purposes.

Trump in a nativistic outburst trashed the idea. Now the Australians are once again having to agonize over what to do with a bunch of refugees that they’re afraid to let into the country because it will probably encourage a wave of more refugees.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:31:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:31:59pm

re: #139 mmmirele

This is why I tell people “no sticks on signs.” Because you don’t want to be accused of clubbing someone.

I used a wrapping paper tube. Light to carry & safe.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:32:02pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:34:17pm

re: #165 ozharas

We’re not thrilled about threats to our fuel supply, for one thing.

abc.net.au

Security experts say Donald Trump’s election as US President warrants another look at Australia’s fuel security and could justify another Defence Force Posture Review.

Australian Strategic Policy Institute expert Andrew Davies said the international security situation had “certainly taken a turn for the worse” after Mr Trump’s election.

“If you look at some of the Trump administration rhetoric about the South China Sea for example, you could easily see them stumbling into a confrontation with China,” Mr Davies said.

I imagine his dicking with the F-35 program, suggesting he’ll just junk it and order more Super Hornet for the Navy, isn’t going over well with Canberra either.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:35:31pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well obviously all Trump’s “real” supporters have jobs, which is why they can’t be there. I’m sure if they all took a day off to attend, the number would be in the millions.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:35:37pm

Town Hall with Rep Sensenbrenner in Delafield today. The congressman did not actually answer one single question.

“He introduced the Build The Wall Bill, which he is very excited about. When asked how we’ll pay for it since Mexico will not, he said they will make the “Mexican drug lords” pay for it by seizing their assets. How we will get their assets out of Mexico and wherever else the money is tucked away is not a question he cared to dignify with an answer. “The bad Mexicans will pay for it and the good Mexicans will he happy.” Seriously. He said that.”
………
“… He went berserk when a man pointed out Sensenbrenner is one of the wealthiest congressmen with a net worth over $22 million. The man explained some tax loophole/credit thing that Sensenbrenner would be able to take advantage of if they repealed the ACA. Sensenbrenner said he was worth only $11 million, and he wouldn’t let the man finish his question because he was questioning the Congressman’s integrity. He turned red and was just furious. The man seemed to have hit a nerve.”

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:35:41pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

If five more people had showed up, it’s likely someone would have had a confederate flag.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:36:06pm
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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:36:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:37:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:38:15pm
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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:39:14pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

What about the Tan Suit scandal?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:39:54pm
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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:40:03pm

There’s this:

Donald Trump’s America shows why Australians are turning to Pauline Hanson

[…] But none of the people I spoke to believe that politicians really understand them.

Well, not all politicians. There is one exception: Pauline Hanson.

“She’s honest,” one person said.

Another said: “She tells it straight.”

A man in his 20s, just laid off from work, pushing a pram with his young daughter, said: “She’s one of us.”

What does Pauline Hanson have that Malcolm Turnbull or Bill Shorten don’t? Ask these people and the answer is simple: she is real. She speaks for them. They are prepared to forgive her.

“She’s crazy, but good,” said one young woman.

[…]

The pressures of modernity on the human psyche are notable. That story starts out with an example of fundamentalist Christian-talk, and transitions to a general malaise that theoretically could be about economics.

But it’s really not.

The real issue is that modernity has no place for God, and that is starting to bother some people in places where religion was always taken for granted.

My assertion, repeated here: The current malaise in America (and perhaps Australia, and a few other places) is about the Loss-of-God problem.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:40:40pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BigPapa  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:42:02pm

Is there such a thing as misdemeanor treason and felony treason? Asking for a friend…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:42:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:43:39pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:43:41pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Bernie people don’t want to win, they just want to whine. The Hillary people need to be slapped upside the head.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:43:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:44:44pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Doesn’t Sean have to go complain about mustard on a burger somewhere?

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:45:12pm

re: #172 jaunte

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Town Hall with Rep Sensenbrenner in Delafield today. The congressman did not actually answer one single question.

Ah, that reminds me, I didn’t get a chance to mention what happened when my representative showed up last week for his own town hall. Sadly I couldn’t attend the first due to work-related matters (“emergency meeting”), but it seems that our own Scott Taylor is trying to thread the needle because he wants to be reelected next year and the natives are restless. What will probably hurt him the most was declaring that universal health care is not a “right,” when his party’s actively trying to fuck over a region that has a higher-than-average ratio of retirees to active workers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:45:54pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump’s Eaglesnest except I don’t think the German taxpayer had to foot that bill.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:47:13pm

re: #187 jaunte

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Well, that explains his sudden backtracking on being “tough” with Chy-na.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:48:42pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh, Sean, I hate to break this to you, but Trump was a private citizen last October when these alleged wiretaps occured. So unless you’re sitting on evidence that Obama is presently spying on Trump, you’re full of shit…or does that go without saying?

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Bubblehead II  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:49:46pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

What do computers eat for popcorn?

syntax errors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:50:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:50:26pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

Uh, Sean, I hate to break this to you, but Trump was a private citizen last October when these alleged wiretaps occured. So unless you’re sitting on evidence that Obama is presently spying on Trump, you’re full of shit…or does that go without saying?

Hannity can’t get Trump’s balls out of his mouth, they’re well done with ketchup on them.

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BeachDem  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:50:37pm

re: #87 PhillyPretzel

On the New York Times front page they mention the phone tap story.
nytimes.com

And from The Wall Street Journal too.

wsj.com

And the article at the “failing” Washington Post now has more than 20,000 comments.

washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:51:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:52:46pm

Trump fans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:52:54pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:52:56pm

re: #159 freetoken

I thought the Australian thing had blown over… haven’t seen any headlines about this in a while.

I don’t think it was a headline article. It was part of an article I read. Probably about his new EO coming out. I’m trying to find it.

OZ is pissed at Trump. But even more pissed about how Australian’s are being treated by CBP. The children’s author was one big hit. But there have been several other instances of Australian’s being treated very poorly at our border. The OZ politicians are very unhappy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:55:41pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:57:44pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it shows the grammar level of the poster to boot….

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wrenchwench  Mar 4, 2017 • 4:58:26pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

Trump fans.

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doesn’t make it legal liar fuck

Took out his punctuation nerve. That must have hurt.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:00:53pm

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

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Drip, drip, drip…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:02:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:02:58pm
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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:03:44pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

Newsflash, just because a government body or individual does something doesn’t make it legal liar fuck

Someone should inform the grossly-mis-named “Dr. Cogent” that when a government body or individual does something according to the regulations and parameters authorized by THE ACTUAL LAW, that does indeed make it “legal”.

“Legal” is a well-defined concept: his (or my, or your) notions of what might be “right”, “wrong”, “good” or “bad” about said action are another matter….

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gocart mozart  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:03:45pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:04:37pm

re: #207 Jay C

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:06:01pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:08:24pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

I’m going to quote Betty Cracker again. In a post this morning, she refereed to Maralago as Disgraceland. I like it.

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fern01  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:08:47pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

Dear @CNN stop referring 2 Maralago as the “Winter Whitehouse” this is Trump’s private club that tax payers are forced to foot the bill for

What are they going to call it when Trump continues to visit in the middle of summer?

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ObserverArt  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:09:09pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

It’s been a matter of faith for weeks now that Obama set up, if he’s not actively coordinating, the constant compromising leaks of information to the press. The far-right believes that its an effort to undermine a wildly popular conservative president while the far-left believes its a rearguard action by the “neoliberals” to undo the damage done to them by the election.

Whoa…whut?

Reality seems to be at 10%.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:10:32pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:14:06pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:14:49pm

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:15:38pm

So word has it that Trump left the WH livid on Friday, muttering that Sessions shouldn’t have had to recuse himself. Then comes out with this twitter storm last night accusing Obama of wiretapping him.

There’s no way to connect those two dots in a way that doesn’t pass through “He’s scared shitless” territory. Little Donny knows or seriously suspects that the FBI has the goods on him and are now working on making a case.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:16:49pm

re: #217 Targetpractice
This is probably a good response to your comment.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:17:19pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

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Emol-u-lago

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:18:46pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:19:44pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:27:05pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:29:30pm

re: #216 teleskiguy

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:29:48pm

re: #222 stpaulbear

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But if all the employees are home, who will do the inspections?

There’s your koan of the night.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:31:16pm

re: #218 Belafon

Interesting article. Kinda centers in Mensch who sounds whackier and whackier with every passing moment.

The story starts with this Louise Mensch story. For those who don’t know, Mensch is a former Tory Member of Parliament turned American rock promoter wife. Since quitting Parliament to spend more time with her family, she has become a pundit known for taking reasonable observations, injecting just a bit of whack, and turning them into fairly unhinged theories. Perhaps her best known foray into investigative work is when she unknowingly used her own racist search history to impugn a Jeremy Corbyn supporter. In spite of her still apparent tolerance for racism, she offered up her support to Hillary on Valentines Day in 2016. Of late, she has been writing unified theories of Russian spying that start from real nuggets and important observations, then spin loose from the actual supporting evidence.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:31:25pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:32:11pm

re: #218 Belafon

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This is probably a good response to your comment.

Eric Boehlert also makes a good point:

It makes perfect sense, given what we know about Comrade Combover. Much like the Yemen raid, he was probably promised that going quiet for a few days after his “presidential” speech would wipe the Russia matter off the radar for awhile. The press would gush over how awesome his “pivot” was, he’d make the Democrats look like fools for opposing him, and he’d get political capital he could spend with his travel ban EO “revision.”

Instead, the very next day the WaPo blew the lid off the Sessions’ pressure cooker, leading to a recusal that the White House was visibly opposed to. I can’t imagine that Donny meeting with Sessions in Mar-a-Lago, with the press off the premises, is for any other reason than to read him the Riot Act in his loudest and whiniest voice for not sticking with the plan.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:33:11pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

He’s going to start a war. A big war.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:34:24pm

I wish I could find video from The X-Files when Mulder is stuck in a boom closet during transcripts of wiretaps after being reassigned from the X-Files.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:34:37pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

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Cenk is such a wanker.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:36:35pm

re: #225 MsJ

Interesting article. Kinda centers in Mensch who sounds whackier and whackier with every passing moment.

It seems they’ve pegged Mensch. The thing I found interesting and seems to line up with Trump’s tweets is that they’re freaking out over not having any oversight of the investigation.

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Interesting Times  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:37:48pm
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darthstar  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:37:54pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

Cenk is such a wanker.

He’s a real Cenker.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:39:15pm

re: #228 Skip Intro

He’s going to start a war. A big war.

Well, at least it won’t be with Russia…

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No Depression  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:39:46pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

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No wonder Hannity is linking to Cenk. They’re basically the same exact smug asshole.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:42:58pm

The Sunday Funnies will be hilarious tomorrow, if only because the conservative press is going to have to find some way to now address the events of the past 72 hours in some way that looks sympathetic to Trump. Any hope that they’d spend all their time gushing over his speech is kinda gone now.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:43:02pm

re: #235 No Depression

No wonder Hannity is linking to Cenk. They’re basically the same exact smug asshole.

Ha, you’re right. One was the stoner in HS and the other the jock, they turned out to be the same guy in the end…

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Interesting Times  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:45:37pm

Sitting congressman, yo:

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:46:46pm

re: #238 Interesting Times

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Yup. That’s exactly what it means.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:47:15pm

re: #238 Interesting Times

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:47:20pm

re: #238 Interesting Times

His bio: “Husband of Betty, the love of my life. Father of two great kids. USAF veteran. Member of Congress. In that order. Also, I don’t take orders from Vladimir Putin.” And his banner is the photo comparing Trump’s inauguration to Obama’s.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:47:40pm

HAHAHAHA!

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Interesting Times  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:49:20pm

re: #241 Belafon

His bio: “Husband of Betty, the love of my life. Father of two great kids. USAF veteran. Member of Congress. In that order. Also, I don’t take orders from Vladimir Putin.” And his banner is the photo comparing Trump’s inauguration to Obama’s.

He’s also co-sponsor of this bill:

Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) and Senator Edward J. Markey (D-Massachusetts) introduced H.R. 669 and S. 200, the Restricting First Use of Nuclear Weapons Act of 2017. This legislation would prohibit the President from launching a nuclear first strike without a declaration of war by Congress. The crucial issue of nuclear “first use” is more urgent than ever now that President Donald Trump has the power to launch a nuclear war at a moment’s notice.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:51:35pm

If the FBI does find crimes committed against Trump then what happens?

Do they file charges against a sitting POTUS? Does the AG step in? Do they go to Congress? How will we find out….officially?

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:54:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:55:15pm
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bratwurst  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:56:50pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

Bernie bro.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:56:54pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

So Rivera missed all those times that President Obama vocally expressed support for immigration reform? Also, why is he blaming Obama for the GOP’s anti-immigration stance? So dang annoying.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:57:57pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

Even Bush couldn’t get an immigration bill through Republicans.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:58:10pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

These are the same idiots who believe Trump when he says that as President nothing he does can be deemed unethical.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:59:31pm

re: #244 b.d.

If the FBI does find crimes committed against Trump then what happens?

Do they file charges against a sitting POTUS? Does the AG step in? Do they go to Congress? How will we find out….officially?

Trump will take a deal allowing him to spend more time with his family if he quietly resigns.

Here’s the thing. If Trump is dirty, so is Pence. No that it matters because we would wings up with Pres. Ryan. There’s no getting around that. And he’s likely keep a lot of these horrible appointments. So… We are fucked no matter what happens. Except for the humanity ending nuclear event we’re likely to see if Trump remains.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 5:59:35pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:00:04pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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Quite, you evil Hillary supporter!1!!! Both sides!!1!!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:00:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:01:32pm

Bernie bros. What are you gonna do with ‘em?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:01:44pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:01:47pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

No drama, Obama. Trump has only been in office for a few weeks and is already imploding with scandals. Trump is nothing but drama.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:01:49pm

The most funny thing about Berniebros shitting on Obama’s immigration record is Bernie’s own immigration record isn’t exactly progressive.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:02:09pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

Does he have ANY idea how government works?

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Interesting Times  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:02:33pm

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:02:48pm

re: #259 thedopefishlives

Does he have ANY idea how government works?

Likely not.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:02:49pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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BernieBros are starting to remind me of the neocons who said that Iraq would have let the United States keep troops in Iraq if Obama had just tried harder to get a deal.

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TedStriker  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:03:21pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

Young Turks, as in Cenk’s outfit, or someone else?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:03:30pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Likely not.

Obviously not, otherwise he would realize that having a plurality in both houses does not a bulletproof majority make.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:03:36pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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I would like to believe that the BernieBros are just pretending to be that stupid…

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teleskiguy  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:03:46pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:04:56pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

The most funny thing about Berniebros shitting on Obama’s immigration record is Bernie’s own immigration record isn’t exactly progressive.

I was about to remind the class that Bernie was an outspoken critic of Dubya’s ‘07 immigration reform push and ultimately voted “No” because (he insisted) the guest worker program proposed would have driven down wages for native workers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:05:25pm

re: #263 TedStriker

Young Turks, as in Cenk’s outfit, or someone else?

Nope, the first one.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:07:29pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

I was about to remind the class that Bernie was an outspoken critic of Dubya’s ‘07 immigration reform push and ultimately voted “No” because (he insisted) the guest worker program proposed would have driven down wages for native workers.

Steve King no less praised Sanders immigration record.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:07:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:07:45pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:09:10pm
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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:09:29pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

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BernieBros are the petulant child mad at Daddy for not getting them a pony for Christmas, except they’re that way for years.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:12:49pm

re: #272 Belafon

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Comey is an asshole nuff said.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:13:29pm

To hell with the poutraged BernieBros, I wouldn’t be surprised to read that the Susan Sarandon was the floor show at Mir-A-Lago this weekend.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:13:38pm

re: #273 Timothy Watson

BernieBros are the petulant child mad at Daddy for not getting them a pony for Christmas, except they’re that way for years.

What makes it really cringeworthy is Bernie is far from great or even good on immigration.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:14:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:01pm

I bet you Mar-A-Lago is tapped…probably by multiple entities.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:13pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:14pm

Obama did not have control over both houses for 2 years, he had a filibuster-proof majority for all of 4 months. When he took office, there were 57 Democrats and 2 Independents, which (if you can do basic math) added up to 59 votes. Why? Franken wasn’t seated because Coleman demanded a recount that wasn’t finished until July. Then Kennedy suffered a seizure and never returned to office before his death in September. And Byrd had a bout of illness that saw him gone until July as well. Then Specter switched parties and the DNC had 59 votes again, followed by Paul Kirk being appointed to a temporary term in September after Ted died. So from September 2009 to January 2010 (when Scott Brown took office), Obama had 60 reliable Senate votes.

And in that time, he managed to get the ACA passed and that was the only thing that he ultimately got passed with his “total control.”

Welcome to reality, Bros.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:31pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

What makes it really cringeworthy is Bernie is far from great or even good on immigration.

Bernie never did get around to releasing his own taxes, did he?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:45pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you Mar-A-Lago is tapped…probably by multiple entities.

You can bet your ass that Putin has him tapped.

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kirkspencer  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:15:59pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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Ah, the 111th Congress. During which, despite and after a lot of resistance, we got the ACA (aka Obamacare) passed.

And this individual thinks Obama could have waltzed through anything he wanted? Somebody’s either too young or too unwilling to remember the reality of the Blue Dog caucus in the house.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:16:05pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you Mar-A-Lago is tapped…probably by multiple entities.

And it only costs $20,000 to do it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:16:23pm
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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:16:29pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

What makes it really cringeworthy is Bernie is far from great or even good on immigration.

He’s a religious icon, and like most religious icons, they can project their beliefs onto him while ignoring everything he’s actually done or said.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:16:51pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet you Mar-A-Lago is tapped…probably by multiple entities.

Any foreign nation that doesn’t have a Mar-A-Lago member or employee on their payroll should be ashamed of themselves…

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:17:30pm

re: #281 b.d.

Bernie never did get around to releasing his own taxes, did he?

Or switching parties to the Democratic Party like he promised.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:17:32pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:18:05pm

re: #281 b.d.

Bernie never did get around to releasing his own taxes, did he?

Not to my knowledge.

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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:18:37pm

re: #288 Timothy Watson

Or switching parties to the Democratic Party like he promised.

I don’t think he’s even going to share his mailing list.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:18:43pm

re: #287 b.d.

Any foreign nation that doesn’t have a Mar-A-Lago member or employee on their payroll should be ashamed of themselves…

Trump gets to save HR money by having the FBI and Secret Service do background checks on the employees.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:19:06pm

Does he mean the FBI

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:19:17pm

re: #286 Timothy Watson

He’s a religious icon, and like most religious icons, they can project their beliefs onto him while ignoring everything he’s actually done or said.

Yeah like sponsoring legislation called among the worst environmental racism ever but he gets a pass for that too.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:19:51pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

Does he mean the FBI

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“Look, Ma, I can make up stories.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:22:02pm

re: #291 jaunte

I don’t think he’s even going to share his mailing list.

He’s not but yet insisting the Dems do what he wants. I have little at all respect for him. He’s an ally but I don’t want him being rewarded for being a dishonest asshole either.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:22:18pm
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jaunte  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:22:48pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:23:39pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

Does he mean the FBI

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Uh, how would he know that? Corey’s a private citizen, which means (unless I missed something) he doesn’t even have a confidential level security clearance. So how would have know what the FBI or DOJ has unless somebody who does have clearance told him so? So either Corey is pulling this out of his ass, or he’s just admitted that somebody in the administration committed a felony by sharing confidential materials with him.

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b.d.  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

OBAMA’S FAULT!!!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:24:40pm

re: #297 Belafon

That’s freaking awesome.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:25:03pm

This admin is really hoisting itself on its own petard isn’t it?

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:25:49pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

I put that in the image library of anyone wants it.

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:26:04pm

re: #297 Belafon

[POLL] How did you become straight?

IT’S NOT A CHOICE!! ONLY BEING GAY IS A CHOICE!!1!

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:27:56pm

I chose to be straight for the same reason I chose to not smoke: the cost in both time and effort. Think of how much it costs to be that awesome.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:28:09pm
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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:29:23pm

re: #303 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This admin is really hoisting itself on its own petard isn’t it?

You only believe that because you’ve been brain-washed by the subliminal messages on your Obama Phone, planted there by Soros operatives.

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teleskiguy  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:30:55pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:31:31pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

And the cheery thought that follows.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:32:28pm

re: #310 MsJ

And the cheery thought that follows.

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I’m afraid he’s right.

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:32:36pm

re: #306 Belafon

I chose to be straight for the same reason I chose to not smoke: the cost in both time and effort. Think of how much it costs to be that awesome.

I gotta admit that, when I think about how much it costs to raise kids, I’m kinda glad that I can’t make babies with another guy.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:32:56pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

I’m afraid he’s right.

I know.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:33:16pm

re: #312 stpaulbear

I gotta admit that, when I think about how much it costs to raise kids, I’m kinda glad that I can’t make babies with another guy.

Well, as a straight man, I really didn’t think that far ahead. Though my three boys are awesome.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:33:18pm

I don’t have any feeling for who DharmaDuck is, and I think s/he is right to treat outrageous claims with suspicion, but Russians with direct and indirect connections to the Trump presidency are dying at an alarming rate. And I would say more than one is alarming. But, anyway, I get Louise Mensch’s paranoid tweets. She’s not always wrong. I’d take her revelations with a grain of salt, but I wouldn’t dismiss out of hand because she got a couple of things wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:33:56pm

re: #313 MsJ

I know.

It’s scary.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:34:04pm

A physics teacher encouraged one of these pilots to pursue her dream.

(I used to be a physics teacher.)

Black women pilots make historic flight for Delta
usatoday.com

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:34:22pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

It is gonna be pretty amazing watching Trump get cancelled before he makes it through his first season.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:34:29pm

re: #315 Barefoot Grin

I don’t have any feeling for who DharmaDuck is, and I think s/he is right to treat outrageous claims with suspicion, but Russians with direct and indirect connections to the Trump presidency are dying at an alarming rate. And I would say more than one is alarming. But, anyway, I get Louise Mensch’s paranoid tweets. She’s not always wrong. I’d take her revelations with a grain of salt, but I wouldn’t dismiss out of hand because she got a couple of things wrong.

All the prominent Russians dying who might have contributed to the dossier is beyond troubling.

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teleskiguy  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:35:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:36:35pm

re: #319 Belafon

All the prominent Russians dying who might have contributed to the dossier is beyond troubling.

Alex Oronov

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TedStriker  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:36:41pm

re: #288 Timothy Watson

Or switching parties to the Democratic Party like he promised.

Oh, Bernie did go Democrat, because that was the only way he could legally run for the nom during the primaries, but, as soon as Hillary lost, he officially dropped the Democratic Party like a hot potato and went right back to being an “Independent”.

Fuck Bernie and fuck his Bros, right in their ear holes.

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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:37:09pm

re: #319 Belafon

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TedStriker  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:37:19pm

re: #292 Timothy Watson

Trump gets to save HR money by having the FBI and Secret Service do background checks on the employees.

I wonder if polygraphs are included.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:40:05pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Thank you. That’s needs to be tweeted to educate numbskulls like Rivera so they can stop bothering Charles.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:40:35pm
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majii  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:40:37pm

re: #64 jaunte

“There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.”

They most certainly are. Another ‘reel’ American shot a Sikh man in Kent, Washington today. The Sikh man was working on his car when a masked white male approached him, told him to, “Go back to your own country,” and opened fire on him, shooting him in the arm. The Kent PD has called for assistance from the FBI and other LE agencies for help in finding the assailant. This incident is being investigated as a hate crime. What these ignorant beings don’t take the time to think about is that if they commit crimes against others, they will be caught and in many instances, hate crime charges will apply, and if they’re convicted, they’ll spend years behind bars. It’s a d*mn shame that we have so many ignorant citizens who act impulsively and attack/kill/harm others for no reason. Purington killed the Garmin engineer because he thought he was in this country illegally and was Muslim. He wasn’t. The guy who attacked the Sikh man in Washington State today most likely thought the guy was from the ME and was Muslim. RW media and the Talking Yam in the WH have completely brainwashed some Americans, and it’s going to cost these tools their freedom. They’d better attend these rallies now, because if they act on their thoughts and are tried and convicted, their butts will/may end up locked up for a few years. The irony will be that what they have been calling for to happen to HRC will actually happen to them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:41:57pm

re: #327 majii

“There sure are a lot of Americans out there just itching to be Nazi streetfighters.”

They most certainly are. Another ‘reel’ American shot a Sikh man in Kent, Washington today. The Sikh man was working on his car when a masked white male approached him, told him to, “Go back to your own country,” and opened fire on him, shooting him in the arm. The Kent PD has called for assistance from the FBI and other LE agencies for help in finding the assailant. This incident is being investigated as a hate crime. What these ignorant beings don’t take the time to think about is that if they commit crimes against others, they will be caught and in many instances, hate crime charges will apply, and if they’re convicted, they’ll spend years behind bars. It’s a d*mn shame that we have so many ignorant citizens who act impulsively and attack/kill/harm others for no reason. Purington killed the Garmin engineer because he thought he was in this country illegally and was Muslim. He wasn’t. The guy who attacked the Sikh man in Washington State today most likely thought the guy was from the ME and was Muslim. RW media and the Talking Yam in the WH have completely brainwashed some Americans, and it’s going to cost these tools their freedom. They’d better attend these rallies now, because if they act on their thoughts and are tried and convicted, their butts will/may end up locked up for a few years. The irony will be that what they have been calling for to happen to HRC will actually happen to them.

Damn I hate hearing about that.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:45:49pm

We have what I am going to call a racism problem in my seriously white city. Have you seen the “Back the Blue” flags, the dark US flags with a blue stripe? I cannot stand them. Not only do they disrespect the US flag, but they’re entire purpose is the whole “Blue Lives Matter” idiocy. There are a lot of them as yard signs and bumper stickers, but someone has it flying as an actual flag.

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majii  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:49:56pm

re: #109 freetoken

“That of course runs counter to what society has taught itself for generations.”

THIS is why some right-wing Christians swear up and down that Jesus Christ’s complexion more closely matched theirs than someone of Middle Eastern origin/ heritage. It’s also why, in spite of all of the available anthropological and scientific evidence, they deny that man’s origins lead back to Africa. Eve could not have been a POC.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:51:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:52:44pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:53:22pm

:)

According to the comments, you can buy it nataloople.bigcartel.com and all proceeds go to Planned Parenthood.

This is why I love the internet.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:56:14pm

So, to occupy my idle-braincycles, I’ve transitioned from Solitaire (some decent apps on the Chrome store) to playing dominoes (excellent stand-alone app in the Chrome store.)

Such frivolities as they are, the also illustrate to me how little we can change an outcome, once a choice has been made.

Take a game of “Block”, one of the common games using dominoes. With 4 players, each player only gets 5 “bones”, which means only 20 of the 28 in the pack are actually in play. So often a player may have only one choice of a domino to play. Once the first player starts and chooses the opening block, there are only a small set of possible outcomes in the universe of the game.

And even as a player with more than one possible play, sometimes it really does not matter what choice one makes, in regards to the outcome of the game.

The opening play sets the course for the entire game.

Just something to think about…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:58:05pm

re: #333 Belafon

:)

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According to the comments, you can buy it nataloople.bigcartel.com and all proceeds go to Planned Parenthood.

This is why I love the internet.

WOMEN DON’T CUM, NOW GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A SAMMICH

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:58:16pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Damn I hate hearing about that.

Well then, you’re probably REALLY going to hate the gush of toxic bullshit the Administration is no doubt going to push on the country via its new “VOICE” program: yep, our tax dollars are going to be used to try to swamp the media with horror-stories about Evil Criminal Illegal Alien Scumbags, and the ghastly crimes they have perpetrated on innocent American citizens (hopefully they MAY try to mitigate the hatemongering by making a few of the victims people of color - maybe: we’ll have wait and see). Trump used these folks as props at the RNC and all through the campaign to get support for his “immigration policy” - i.e. draconian police-state roundups and mass deportations - now they can tell their tales on the government’s tab.

PS: This comment shouldn’t be taken as lacking sympathy for these families’ tragedies: I can’t imagine the pain of losing a loved one to violent crime (whoever the perpetrator might be). Of course, facts and figures as to the rarity of such crimes, and the general law-abiding character of most “undocumenteds” belie the xenophobic narrative the Admin wants to push: but when have these creatures ever let mere facts get in the way of a good hate??

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 6:58:39pm

re: #334 freetoken

So, to occupy my idle-braincycles, I’ve transitioned from Solitaire (some decent apps on the Chrome store) to playing dominoes (excellent stand-alone app in the Chrome store.)

Such frivolities as they are, the also illustrate to me how little we can change an outcome, once a choice has been made.

Take a game of “Block”, one of the common games using dominoes. With 4 players, each player only gets 5 “bones”, which means only 20 of the 28 in the pack are actually in play. So often a player may have only one choice of a domino to play. Once the first player starts and chooses the opening block, there are only a not-very-numerous possible outcomes in the universe of the game.

And even as a player with more than one possible play, sometimes it really does not matter what choice one makes, in regards to the outcome of the game.

The opening play sets the course for the entire game.

Just something to think about…

Back when my son was three, I played Shoots Chutes and Ladders. That game is entirely predetermined once the cards are shuffled. I won five times in a row. On the sixth game, I prearranged the cards so he could win. I don’t start torturing my kids like that until they’re five.

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retired cynic  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:01:58pm

re: #337 Belafon

Back when my son was three, I played Shoots Chutes and Ladders. That game is entirely predetermined once the cards are shuffled. I won five times in a row. On the sixth game, I prearranged the cards so he could win. I don’t start torturing my kids like that until they’re five.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:02:50pm

This woman must be a pool reporter.

Instagram

This journalist had every angle covered outside Beijing’s Great Hall during an important meeting of China’s leaders.
Photo: Ng Han Guan/AP

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:03:39pm

re: #338 retired cynic

Thanks. Mine does bring up an interesting idea for a game involving robbing houses and apartments.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:04:12pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:04:43pm

re: #338 retired cynic

The Chinese panda eats, shoots and leaves.

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majii  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:06:56pm

re: #151 FormerDirtDart

“Communications on Trump’s wire tap allegations are on lock down while White House legal staff figure out what should be said, I’m told.”

I don’t think the Talking Yam [TY] realizes it yet, but his unhinged tweet created more problems for him than it solved. Instead of making the inquiries into his and some of his associates’ secret communications with Russian and Ukrainian government officials decrease, his tweet put them front and center and back on the front-page, so to speak. I also don’t think he realizes that his tweet screams, “I’m guilty!” of having done something I know was wrong. Tweeting falsely that #44 had a FISA warrant that authorized tapping his phones is a mighty fine way to encourage the MSM to keep digging. WH journalists reported that the TY was pissed that Sessions recused himself from investigating Russia/Ukraine/Trump ties, and I know why—-Sessions was his ‘get out of jail free card’ in the DOJ.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:10:31pm

re: #339 wheat-dogg

I feel like that contraption she is holding is waiting for just the right moment to enslave us all…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:10:49pm

Shutterbug alert. Also just plain cool.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:11:45pm

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel like that contraption she is holding is waiting for just the right moment to enslave us all…

One of them has to be the Men in Black memory wiper.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:11:50pm

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:14:10pm

re: #343 majii

At this point any attempt to remove Trump from office for cause will start a civil war. The crazies have been fully primed for it for nearly a year now and Trump’s Axis of Stupids are just waiting to light the fuse.

The election of Trump is something we’re not just going to walk away from. Trump/Bannon will see the country burn first.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:15:46pm

So it’s a new SNL tonight.

Prepare for incoming tweets.

They’ve got it made.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:16:36pm
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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:16:40pm

re: #348 Skip Intro

At this point any attempt to remove Trump from office for cause will start a civil war. The crazies have been fully primed for it for nearly a year now and Trump’s Axis of Stupids are just waiting to light the fuse.

The election of Trump is something we’re not just going to walk away from. Trump/Bannon will see the country burn first.

They’re going to have to deal with it.

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Jay C  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:18:42pm

re: #343 majii

I don’t think the Talking Yam [TY] realizes it yet, but his unhinged tweet created more problems for him than it solved.

What’s really depressing is, this phrase has already become a clichéd template for the Trump Administration - can apply to virtually everything this incompetent charlatan has done - and the Admin is only six weeks old…..

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HappyWarrior  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:19:28pm

re: #350 Stanley Sea

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Cheadle is one of my favorite actors.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:22:18pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:23:31pm

re: #329 Belafon

We have what I am going to call a racism problem in my seriously white city. Have you seen the “Back the Blue” flags, the dark US flags with a blue stripe? I cannot stand them. Not only do they disrespect the US flag, but they’re entire purpose is the whole “Blue Lives Matter” idiocy. There are a lot of them as yard signs and bumper stickers, but someone has it flying as an actual flag.

I got a call from an organization named “Blue Lives Matter”. Didn’t even pick up the phone since I didn’t want to give them a piece of my mind. There has never been any doubt that police lives’ matter.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:25:44pm

re: #153 FormerDirtDart

This…
it is now canon within the realms of reddit and infowars

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I hope he did. His job was to protect us from enemy’s both foreign and domestic.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:26:14pm
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Moebym  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:28:24pm

re: #354 Kragar

If she loves Russia so damned much, why didn’t she bring a Russian flag to wave?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:28:48pm

re: #350 Stanley Sea

Love his avatar. Trump supporters really are delusional if they think Trump is above criticism after how their side went after President Obama for 8 straight years.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:30:23pm

re: #358 Moebym

Take a close look at whats in her right hand.

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retired cynic  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:32:05pm

re: #360 Kragar

Take a close look at whats in her right hand.

Looks like the handle to a fly swatter to me.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:32:50pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

“wildly popular conservative president”? Who is that? Couldn’t be referring to the low rated buffoon in the White House. Talk about alternative facts.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:33:11pm

re: #361 retired cynic

Up a bit

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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:33:56pm
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retired cynic  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:35:04pm

re: #363 Kragar

Up a bit

I’m ignorant, but … ugh?

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:36:26pm

re: #365 retired cynic

I’m ignorant, but … ugh?

The thing she’s holding is colored like the Russian flag.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:37:26pm

re: #365 retired cynic

Look at her sign, now look at the Russian flag.

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retired cynic  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:38:34pm

re: #366 Belafon

The thing she’s holding is colored like the Russian flag.

Yeah, I see that. It is says Thanks Russia on it. I’m assuming she is thanking Russia for giving her DT. I’m sorry! I was looking for something more obscure!

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stpaulbear  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:38:48pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:39:59pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:40:42pm

re: #326 Belafon

Man. Trump is losing the WSJ (And a lot of those who comment there). Bodes poorly for this lunatic president.

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Belafon  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:42:33pm

I was thinking that if Putin really wanted to mess up Trump, he would say “Yeah, we meddled in the election, but we didn’t expect you idiots to vote Trump into office.” But, one of the things that Putin wants from Trump is to end the sanctions, so he can’t say anything right now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:45:21pm

re: #371 MsJ

Man. Trump is losing the WSJ (And a lot of those who comment there). Bodes poorly for this lunatic president.

News or editorial section?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:45:34pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:45:42pm

re: #371 MsJ

Man. Trump is losing the WSJ (And a lot of those who comment there). Bodes poorly for this lunatic president.

As long as he has Fox, Breitbart, Alex Jones and talk radio he won’t care since Trump doesn’t read.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:45:57pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

It always was National Racists.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:47:32pm

re: #376 freetoken

It always was National Racists.

They’ve never gotten over the Nazis losing the war.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:48:52pm

As often as Trump is at Mar a Lago, I imagine him putting his sarcophagus there, a gold sarcophagus, and adding 12 more sarcophagi around him, for the 12 apostles, just like Constantine did, so he can keep up his con of the religious marks even after death.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:51:12pm

re: #348 Skip Intro

At this point any attempt to remove Trump from office for cause will start a civil war. The crazies have been fully primed for it for nearly a year now and Trump’s Axis of Stupids are just waiting to light the fuse.

The election of Trump is something we’re not just going to walk away from. Trump/Bannon will see the country burn first.

That’s been Bannon’s plan for ages.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:53:02pm
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MsJ  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:54:25pm

re: #375 Skip Intro

As long as he has Fox, Breitbart, Alex Jones and talk radio he won’t care since Trump doesn’t read.

Yeah but the drip drip drip of losing folks that voted for him will not give him the support here’s going to need if the shit really hits the fan.

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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:55:09pm

re: #380 Joe Bacon

He should sue AOL for sending him those CDs.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:55:27pm

re: #379 Romantic Heretic

There is no doubt in my mind that the Bannon and his Bratfrats have as their only goal destruction, in their own name for their own glory. There is nothing good there, just hateful delusion.

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Kragar  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:56:40pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 4, 2017 • 7:57:44pm

re: #381 MsJ

With a compromised FBI and Justice Dept. I’m just not seeing how that’s going to happen. The GOP sure isn’t going to do anything.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 4, 2017 • 8:04:27pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ah ha. Found the problem. It was a messed up copy/paste in Shiplord Kirel’s private comment. Fixed now.

Eek! I go away for a while and return to find that I had accidentally poisoned the hamsters. I most humbly apologize and beseech your forgiveness. I’m glad to see they’re recovering. This also explains the job offer I got from rt.com and that mysterious chap who called himself “Steve Harkonnen” and said he wanted to talk to me.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2017 • 8:06:42pm

re: #385 Skip Intro

With a compromised FBI and Justice Dept. I’m just not seeing how that’s going to happen. The GOP sure isn’t going to do anything.

We’ll see, won’t we?

But that shitshow this morning was more illuminating about Trump than Obama. At some point, the rotting corpse will drive the R’s out of the room to escape the reek.

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JordanRules  Mar 4, 2017 • 8:14:16pm

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Me too! I hope he gets some great roles soon. He’s got the chops to do alot of really good stuff.

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BeachDem  Mar 4, 2017 • 8:26:37pm

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Cheadle is one of my favorite actors.

Well, if you haven’t watched House of Lies, get thee to a streaming service and DO (bonus of Kristen Bell as his costar)

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John Carter  Mar 5, 2017 • 3:17:23am

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

I suppose he could always read Lucifer’s Hammer, where the black people all turn cannibal and the good white farmers have to make a stand against them and defend the last nuclear powerplant.

Wait wut? I read that when I was a kid and loved it. My reading comprehension was proudly not great at that age. Is that what happened? I mean I remember the fight against the cannibals but don’t recall them being black. That sucks.


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