1
Dr. Matt  May 12, 2017 • 11:05:02am

Spicy is a snowflake:

2
Dr. Matt  May 12, 2017 • 11:07:16am

Spicy just said Trump is “the decider”! hahaha

3
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:07:39am

Reposted from previous thread:

I have been doing a lot of lurking lately. Usually I only have a few minutes to scroll down the page on my phone as a general way of seeing what going on (as opposed to a CNN site where there is a sea of headlines and I can’t really go clicking on them. One thing I’ve noticed lately is that with all this stuff going on, it has really put a dent into the lizard community. By that I mean there are hardly any food pics, personal anecdotes, lizard to lizard interaction and so on. It’s like we can’t catch our breath or something.

4
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 11:08:26am

Bullshit Spice(r) strikes again.

If he says the sky is blue and grass is green, I’d want verification.

5
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 11:08:52am
6
Big Beautiful Door  May 12, 2017 • 11:09:02am

Congress needs to subpoena the Comey tapes.

7
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 11:09:06am

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Spicy just said Trump is “the decider”! hahaha

cc.com

8
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 11:10:19am

I thought you could embed Comedy Central clips? Anyone know how?

Trying to post this classic Stewart clip mocking Bush after Bush said “I am the decider!”

9
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:10:19am
10
austin_blue  May 12, 2017 • 11:11:08am

re: #3 SteveMcG RN

Reposted from previous thread:

I have been doing a lot of lurking lately. Usually I only have a few minutes to scroll down the page on my phone as a general way of seeing what going on (as opposed to a CNN site where there is a sea of headlines and I can’t really go clicking on them. One thing I’ve noticed lately is that with all this stuff going on, it has really put a dent into the lizard community. By that I mean there are hardly any food pics, personal anecdotes, lizard to lizard interaction and so on. It’s like we can’t catch our breath or something.

It’s a valid point. But that being said

(Drumpf tweeted what?!?!?)

Sorry, lost my train of thought there…

11
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:12:02am
12
The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2017 • 11:12:08am

BWAHAHAA

13
petesh  May 12, 2017 • 11:12:29am

re: #3 SteveMcG RN

True. Thing is, I find that checking in here is my best way of keeping up with the shit as it happens. I work for myself, on the computer, and I cannot spend as much time following the slow-moving but incident-packed downfall of Trump as I otherwise would. The Lizard community is ON IT. Thanks, all.

14
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:14:33am
15
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 11:14:42am
16
Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 12, 2017 • 11:15:52am

Cuts and runs. Coward.

17
The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2017 • 11:17:37am
19
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:18:12am

I don’t think that tweet rises to the level of a threat. It really only targets credibility, as opposed to targeting Comey’s safety. I do have to ask myself, as some guy I heard on MSNBC this morning, whether anybody’s actually running the country right now?

20
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 11:18:57am
21
The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2017 • 11:19:27am

The Russians just installed them.

22
Scottish Dragon  May 12, 2017 • 11:19:46am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Spicer is done. Huckabee Sanders will have his job next week.

23
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:19:51am

re: #20 Kragar

Perhaps they should put some potted plants next to the podium.

24
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 11:19:57am

Mic. Drop:

Yeah, that’s the official Office of Govt Ethics.

25
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 11:20:14am

You gotta wonder when the White House is just going to stop doing press briefings altogether.

They’re like a train wreck that occurs daily. Trump will cut them off at some point.

26
Scottish Dragon  May 12, 2017 • 11:20:19am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

The Russians just installed them.

This season of The Americans is crazy…

27
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:21:31am

re: #19 SteveMcG RN

I don’t think that tweet rises to the level of a threat. It really only targets credibility, as opposed to targeting Comey’s safety. I do have to ask myself, as some guy I heard on MSNBC this morning, whether anybody’s actually running the country right now?

Oh please. Of course it’s a threat when the president of the US says you “better hope there are no tapes.” It’s naked intimidation.

28
Big Beautiful Door  May 12, 2017 • 11:21:58am

re: #19 SteveMcG RN

I don’t think that tweet rises to the level of a threat. It really only targets credibility, as opposed to targeting Comey’s safety. I do have to ask myself, as some guy I heard on MSNBC this morning, whether anybody’s actually running the country right now?

Trump doesn’t have a clue about anything, so his staff get the policy positions they want by lying to him.

29
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 11:22:21am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Oh please. Of course it’s a threat when the president of the US says you “better hope there are no tapes.” It’s naked intimidation.

It’s obvious, and it’s typical Trump. He’s been tweeting these threats since the primaries.

30
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:22:24am

re: #25 makeitstop

You gotta wonder when the White House is just going to stop doing press briefings altogether.

They’re like a train wreck that occurs daily. Trump will cut them off at some point.

That’s exactly what he threatened to do this morning.

31
Big Beautiful Door  May 12, 2017 • 11:22:46am

re: #25 makeitstop

You gotta wonder when the White House is just going to stop doing press briefings altogether.

They’re like a train wreck that occurs daily. Trump will cut them off at some point.

He just threatened to in a tweet.

32
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 11:23:13am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

That’s exactly what he threatened to do this morning.

[Embedded content]

I saw that. Trial balloon.

33
jaunte  May 12, 2017 • 11:23:40am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy!.

He lies in his written statements, too, so…

34
The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2017 • 11:24:51am
35
Sir John Barron  May 12, 2017 • 11:25:12am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

As a very active President with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy!….

— Donald J. Trump

LOL

I fondly remember when this Grand Canyon-wide latitude was given to Obama and his spokespeople.

//

36
jaunte  May 12, 2017 • 11:25:57am
37
goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2017 • 11:26:42am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Oh please. Of course it’s a threat when the president of the US says you “better hope there are no tapes.” It’s naked intimidation.

I’d call it a bluff just because we all know there either are no tapes or, if there are, they do not support Trump’s version of the conversation.

38
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:27:12am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

I mean in the legal sense. I think a prosecutor would be hard pressed to make the case beyond a reasonable doubt that this statement rises to witness intimidation. A defense attorney would just make the argument I did. If I were a juror and this was the argument i would have a hard time convicting. Now firing the man, that’s definitely obstruction.
There is going to be plenty of things to cram into the articles of impeachment, I just don’t think this will be one of them.

39
goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2017 • 11:28:23am

Trump couldn’t just come out and say he has tapes because then he’d have to produce them. That tweet is a desperate gambit by an increasingly shaken and unhinged lunatic.

40
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 11:29:11am

Those were the days… that the GOP wishes they could relive - taking the Clintons apart, instead of trying to keep Trump’s cabal of cronies together.

41
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:29:17am

Trump is so active he can’t even keep track of his own statements.

42
jaunte  May 12, 2017 • 11:29:48am
43
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:29:53am
44
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 11:31:50am

re: #5 Kragar

45
Dr. Matt  May 12, 2017 • 11:32:27am
46
Varek Raith  May 12, 2017 • 11:32:39am
47
jaunte  May 12, 2017 • 11:35:00am
48
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:35:00am
49
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 11:37:02am
50
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 11:38:19am
51
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 11:38:30am

re: #42 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He sounded absolutely lucid in that interview.

He’s definitely losing his mental faculties IMO.

52
Citizen K  May 12, 2017 • 11:38:32am
53
bratwurst  May 12, 2017 • 11:38:48am
54
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 11:39:36am
55
Citizen K  May 12, 2017 • 11:39:58am

re: #24 lawhawk

Mic. Drop:

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that’s the official Office of Govt Ethics.

At least there’s one gov’t office whose twitter account hasn’t gone all in on the Trump woo.

56
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:40:00am

re: #49 Kragar

I didn’t catch the very beginning of Rachel Maddow’s show last night, but she hinted that Manaforte might be the first. She noticed that he never registered as a foreign agent (after people assumed he did retroactively like Flynn) and that he is still committing a felony. She said that may give him an incentive to talk.

57
petesh  May 12, 2017 • 11:42:10am

re: #56 SteveMcG RN

I didn’t catch the very beginning of Rachel Maddow’s show last night, but she hinted that Manaforte might be the first. She noticed that he never registered as a foreign agent (after people assumed he did retroactively like Flynn) and that he is still committing a felony. She said that may give him an incentive to talk.

Ssssh! :-)

58
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 11:42:24am

re: #56 SteveMcG RN

Manafort released a letter the other day indicating that he’s in talks to address the foreign agent status and registration, which if one reads between the lines, is an opening to a John LeCarre novel, or that he’s spilling the dirt on everyone else in the Trump admin.

Manafort and Trump go way back - to the 1980s.

Also in that cabal of cronies? Stone.

59
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 11:42:41am
60
Mike Lamb  May 12, 2017 • 11:43:04am

re: #38 SteveMcG RN

I mean in the legal sense. I think a prosecutor would be hard pressed to make the case beyond a reasonable doubt that this statement rises to witness intimidation. A defense attorney would just make the argument I did. If I were a juror and this was the argument i would have a hard time convicting. Now firing the man, that’s definitely obstruction.
There is going to be plenty of things to cram into the articles of impeachment, I just don’t think this will be one of them.

How does suggesting that Comey better not leak because Trump might have tapes of their conversations go in any way towards Comey’s credibility?

61
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:44:12am

re: #60 Mike Lamb

Trump is suggesting that the so-called “tapes” would contradict Comey’s story about the dinner.

62
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:44:58am

re: #61 SteveMcG RN

…and all Trump has to do is get the Russians to release them.

63
Joe Bacon  May 12, 2017 • 11:45:31am

I’m broken-hearted because Hucky Boo Boo took the day off 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰

64
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 11:46:56am

re: #63 Joe Bacon

I’m looking forward to SNL with Cecily Strong as Huck and Melissa McCarthy as Spicey, probably including some potted plants as props.

65
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 11:47:05am

Trump supporters no joke have got to be some of the most stupid sons of bitches I’ve ever seen. But hey keep on thinking he cares about you while he sells you down the river fuckwits.

66
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 11:47:19am

re: #58 lawhawk

Manafort released a letter the other day indicating that he’s in talks to address the foreign agent status and registration, which if one reads between the lines, is an opening to a John LeCarre novel, or that he’s spilling the dirt on everyone else in the Trump admin.

Manafort and Trump go way back - to the 1980s.

Also in that cabal of cronies? Stone.

That also may be why Dana Boente was in that meeting with the Intel Committee chairs yesterday. VA Eastern District oversees FARA cases.

67
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 11:47:53am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

40 years of hearing that govt is bad, taxes are bad, and that the only way they’ll see improvement is if the GOP controls things and cuts taxes for the rich is one hell of a drug.

68
Sir John Barron  May 12, 2017 • 11:48:55am

re: #52 Citizen K

One of the “transition” people at my agency got on the elevator with me at lunchtime. The TV was on in the background lobby with the press conference on. Transition person remarked, mostly in a laughing manner, how Spicer has the worst job or the most difficult job. Almost as if this DT transition person thought the whole thing was ludicrous, too.

69
Mike Lamb  May 12, 2017 • 11:49:48am

re: #61 SteveMcG RN

Trump is suggesting that the so-called “tapes” would contradict Comey’s story about the dinner.

Which is why it’s a fucking threat/witness intimidation!

70
jaunte  May 12, 2017 • 11:51:13am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Trump supporters no joke have got to be some of the most stupid sons of bitches I’ve ever seen. But hey keep on thinking he cares about you while he sells you down the river fuckwits.

I flipped channels to Fox last night during a commercial, and they were still talking about Bill Clinton meeting Loretta Lynch, as if nothing else has happened since.

71
Sir John Barron  May 12, 2017 • 11:52:27am

re: #70 jaunte

I flipped channels to Fox last night during a commercial, and they were still talking about Bill Clinton meeting Loretta Lynch, as if nothing else has happened since.

Tonight on Faux: Update on Fast & Furious Obama scandal!

72
Alephnaught  May 12, 2017 • 11:53:06am

Looks like the “NHS Cyberattack” is part of a huge international attack:

nytimes.com

Also, a lot of people are noticing that loads of NHS computers are still using Windows XP, which Microsoft stopped supporting in 2014, except for paid support. The UK government stopped paying in 2015…

73
goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2017 • 11:53:19am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Trump supporters no joke have got to be some of the most stupid sons of bitches I’ve ever seen. But hey keep on thinking he cares about you while he sells you down the river fuckwits.

It really helps to understand modern conservatism if you realize it’s just gang mentality. Republicans are the gang, Trump is (for now) their leader and that’s where the thought process ends, full stop.

They don’t think he cares about them per se. They think he’s the guy they have to support to win their turf war over US politics with liberals. Like Bush he’s an intentionally disposable President, only more so. He always has been. When he goes down they’ll feign disgust and transfer loyalty to the winner of the next leadership battle.

These people have zero personal integrity. They’re united by hate and white cultural resentment. They deliberately repeat lies in order to demonstrate membership like street gangs flash hand signs, as a kind of shibboleth. It’s not that they’re stupid, it’s that they’re evil.

74
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 11:54:15am

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

It really helps to understand modern conservatism if you realize it’s just gang mentality. Republicans are the gang, Trump is (for now) their leader and that’s where the though process ends, full stop.

They don’t think he cares about them per se. They think he’s the guy they have to support to win their turf war over US politics with liberals. Like Bush he’s an intentionally disposable President, only more so. He always has been. When he goes down they’ll feign disgust and transfer loyalty to the winner of the next leadership battle.

These people have zero personal integrity. They’re united by hate and white cultural resentment. They deliberately repeat lies in order to demonstrate membership like street gangs flash hand signs, as a kind of shibboleth. It’s not that they’re stupid, it’s that they’re evil.

Nailed it, yes.

75
petesh  May 12, 2017 • 11:55:10am

McConnell ain’t dumb. Ryan, however, may be.

76
Alephnaught  May 12, 2017 • 11:57:06am
77
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 11:57:24am

re: #72 Alephnaught

Looks like the “NHS Cyberattack” is part of a huge international attack:

nytimes.com

Also, a lot of people are noticing that loads of NHS computers are still using Windows XP, which Microsoft stopped supporting in 2014, except for paid support. The UK government stopped paying in 2015…

[Embedded content]

If that’s the case, the attack came from inside the government. You can’t connect an XP machine to the Internet. It’s just not an option due to security holes.

78
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 11:59:58am

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

It really helps to understand modern conservatism if you realize it’s just gang mentality. Republicans are the gang, Trump is (for now) their leader and that’s where the thought process ends, full stop.

They don’t think he cares about them per se. They think he’s the guy they have to support to win their turf war over US politics with liberals. Like Bush he’s an intentionally disposable President, only more so. He always has been. When he goes down they’ll feign disgust and transfer loyalty to the winner of the next leadership battle.

These people have zero personal integrity. They’re united by hate and white cultural resentment. They deliberately repeat lies in order to demonstrate membership like street gangs flash hand signs, as a kind of shibboleth. It’s not that they’re stupid, it’s that they’re evil.

Exactly. As soon as a Republican runs for President on a platform of explicit Nazism, these are the pig-people who will give that Nazism their full support.

79
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:00:38pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

It really helps to understand modern conservatism if you realize it’s just gang mentality. Republicans are the gang, Trump is (for now) their leader and that’s where the thought process ends, full stop.

They don’t think he cares about them per se. They think he’s the guy they have to support to win their turf war over US politics with liberals. Like Bush he’s an intentionally disposable President, only more so. He always has been. When he goes down they’ll feign disgust and transfer loyalty to the winner of the next leadership battle.

These people have zero personal integrity. They’re united by hate and white cultural resentment. They deliberately repeat lies in order to demonstrate membership like street gangs flash hand signs, as a kind of shibboleth. It’s not that they’re stupid, it’s that they’re evil.

Charlie Sykes said as much today in the NYT.

The thing is, of course, that this has been obvious at least since Clinton’s era. He talks about Limbaugh especially, but for as long as he’s been popular, Limbaugh’s schtick has not been ‘small government, low taxes, freedom for everyone!’, it’s been all about how bad Liberals are.

80
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:02:09pm
81
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 12:03:30pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

He can always get a job at McDonald’s.

82
Alephnaught  May 12, 2017 • 12:04:16pm
83
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 12:04:35pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Charlie Sykes said as much today in the NYT.

The thing is, of course, that this has been obvious at least since Clinton’s era. He talks about Limbaugh especially, but for as long as he’s been popular, Limbaugh’s schtick has not been ‘small government, low taxes, freedom for everyone!’, it’s been all about how bad Liberals are.

We’ve got to find an alternative to the two options below:

1) Democrats correctly call Republicans evil and maximally obstruct vs. the GOP and the mainstream media uses this to reinforce the both sides narrative.

2) Democrats work with the GOP on some issues and inevitably end up more or less selling out because that how ‘negotiations’ with rabid zealots like the GOP always go.

84
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 12:05:22pm

re: #82 Alephnaught

One glance at that map suggests it is Russia working against France and Europe because LePen didn’t win.

85
Interesting Times  May 12, 2017 • 12:06:43pm

re: #78 EPR-radar

Exactly. As soon as a Republican runs for President on a platform of explicit Nazism, these are the pig-people who will give that Nazism their full support.

Also too, these people are inspired by trump (in a way they weren’t inspired by Gene Eric Republican) because he represents pure distilled asshole wish fulfillment - durr hurr, he FIRED the guy in charge of investigating him! Total badass!!1!!

In other words, an evil, ignorant, greedy sleazebag with no genuine skills or competence rises to a position of ultimate wealth and power and proceeds to live out every fantasy held by his troll-like followers. That’s why every lie he tells and every horrible thing he does only makes these drooling cultists worship him all the more.

86
Anymouse  May 12, 2017 • 12:09:54pm

re: #77 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If that’s the case, the attack came from inside the government. You can’t connect an XP machine to the Internet. It’s just not an option due to security holes.

Anymouse wonders if this is snark, as he posts his response from a Windows XP machine using a carrier pigeon.

My mother uses her Windows 95 machine to write E-mail.

In seriousness, I wonder what the attack vector for this ransomware is? Specially-crafted Webpage? Clicking on an unknown link from someone?

87
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 12:12:08pm
88
Big Beautiful Door  May 12, 2017 • 12:13:16pm

re: #87 Kragar

[Embedded content]

However that certainly sounds like the best way to watch the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

89
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 12:15:02pm

re: #86 Anymouse

It can be an applet surreptitiously activated by visiting a page, a link that downloads malicious code, etc. Or it could be email link/attachment that is opened.

90
Anymouse  May 12, 2017 • 12:15:32pm

Huge worldwide cyber attack hits UK, US, China, and Russia.
bbc.com

A ransomware attack involving Bitcoin doesn’t really sound like a state actor. It sounds like criminals.

The criminals could be Russian of course, or it could be some guy sitting in a basement in Tennessee.

91
I cannot.  May 12, 2017 • 12:15:34pm
92
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 12:16:55pm

re: #25 makeitstop

You gotta wonder when the White House is just going to stop doing press briefings altogether.

They’re like a train wreck that occurs daily. Trump will cut them off at some point.

Didn’t he already threaten to do that…by just putting out a daily statement?*

*full of lies.

93
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 12:18:47pm
94
Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 12, 2017 • 12:19:09pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Trump supporters no joke have got to be some of the most stupid sons of bitches I’ve ever seen. But hey keep on thinking he cares about you while he sells you down the river fuckwits.

They are not stupid. They comprise about 2% of the world’s population and willingly live in a tribal alternate reality that they have constructed over the last 40 years. They are predominately white (about 60% of the white population in the USA) and come from all income groups. They one thing that ties them together is a spectrum of personal racism and racial and cultural fears. They have their own propaganda networks, their own schools, their own governments separate and apart from the reality recognized by rest of the world. 2% of the world’s population has decided that they are going to excercise a campaign of terror upon the rest of 98% of the world by backing a ill-mannered, ill-behaved madman infant with his finger on the button. They are not stupid. They are evil.

95
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 12:19:21pm

oh……..

96
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 12:19:32pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Anymouse wonders if this is snark, as he posts his response from a Windows XP machine using a carrier pigeon.

My mother uses her Windows 95 machine to write E-mail.

In seriousness, I wonder what the attack vector for this ransomware is? Specially-crafted Webpage? Clicking on an unknown link from someone?

To infect a PC with up-to-date security, Flash is the usual vector. For a Windows 95 or XP PC, the machine is wide-open to attack of the OS itself, because exploits are constantly developed, so anything created since your OS was last updated will be a threat.

It’s OK to use old PCs, you just can’t responsibly connect them to the Internet. The risk is to you, and to others if you become part of a botnet. Get a tablet if you can’t keep Internet-connected PCs up to date.

97
Franklin  May 12, 2017 • 12:20:49pm

[Beastie Boys reference incoming…]

98
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:21:08pm

A while back, I said of the Right, “If you think they’re thinking, you’re overthinking.” This is even more true of Trump. This Vox piece is frightening in its implications, but I can’t find any flaw in the writer’s logic.

We’ve elected Anthony President, and it seems like all we can do is hope he doesn’t send us to the Corn Field.

It’s good that you done that. Real good!
99
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 12:23:12pm

re: #89 lawhawk

It can be an applet surreptitiously activated by visiting a page, a link that downloads malicious code, etc. Or it could be email link/attachment that is opened.

NYT says it was circulated via email. 1D10T error.

100
Anymouse  May 12, 2017 • 12:23:34pm

re: #96 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m back on my Windows 10 machine. I was just pointing out you can connect to the Internet with XP.

You can even connect with this, which is unlikely to be hit with a virus at all, therefore much safer than Windows or Linux:

Commodore 64 Start Screen
101
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 12:23:40pm

re: #99 makeitstop

102
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:24:05pm

re: #99 makeitstop

NYT says it was circulated via email. 1D10T error.

So, you’re saying I SHOULDN’T open the email with naked pictures of Anna Kournikova?
//////

103
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 12:24:49pm

re: #99 makeitstop

NYT says it was circulated via email. 1D10T error.

A modern email client would block most malicious attachments, but someone using ancient software would have no warning that anything was wrong. The file-extension could even be hidden.

104
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 12:24:57pm

re: #58 lawhawk

Manafort released a letter the other day indicating that he’s in talks to address the foreign agent status and registration, which if one reads between the lines, is an opening to a John LeCarre novel, or that he’s spilling the dirt on everyone else in the Trump admin.

Manafort and Trump go way back - to the 1980s.

Also in that cabal of cronies? Stone.

Manafort has that look of a shark. I wouldn’t trust him at all if I were Donny T.

105
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 12:25:05pm

re: #99 makeitstop

NYT says it was circulated via email. 1D10T error.

The Virginia State Police had to shut down their e-mail for almost a week to remove malware.

106
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 12:25:38pm

re: #100 Anymouse

I’m back on my Windows 10 machine. I was just pointing out you can connect to the Internet with XP.

You can even connect with this, which is unlikely to be hit with a virus at all, therefore much safer than Windows or Linux:

[Embedded content]

You can’t responsibly connect to the Internet with XP.

107
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:26:48pm

Whoot. Long work week is done. Looking forward to Happy Hour with friends. My cousin that resides in the UK is going to be there. I’m going to get the inside sports scoop of what our friends across the pond think of his Orangeness.

108
Dr. Matt  May 12, 2017 • 12:26:57pm
109
gocart mozart  May 12, 2017 • 12:27:17pm
110
Jay C  May 12, 2017 • 12:27:21pm

re: #64 SteveMcG RN

I’m looking forward to SNL with Cecily Strong as Huck and Melissa McCarthy as Spicey, probably including some potted plants as props the President.

111
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 12:27:34pm

re: #67 lawhawk

40 years of hearing that govt is bad, taxes are bad, and that the only way they’ll see improvement is if the GOP controls things and cuts taxes for the rich is one hell of a drug.

It sure is. It alters reality and causes bad judgment. Long term effects are permanent delusions, loss of memory and early death.

112
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 12:27:41pm
113
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 12:28:41pm

In my business users need to verify a passcode to for me to do anything on their account.

The number of times I see passcodes of 1234. 7777, 0000 etc, is maddening.

There’s also a disturbingly high number of people who think it’s ludicrous they need a passcode at all.

Some people do not give a shit about security.

114
Anymouse  May 12, 2017 • 12:30:23pm

re: #106 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t responsibly connect to the Internet with XP.

And yet a whole bunch of bank and private ATM machines use a modified version of XP themselves. Banks aren’t interested in upgrading because it costs money.

Fortunately, since my bank doesn’t have ATM machines or credit cards, I don’t have to worry about that.

115
petesh  May 12, 2017 • 12:30:40pm

This, from Wittes at the Lawfare blog is flat-out brutal:

Et Tu Rod? Why The Deputy Attorney General Must Resign

Read the whole thing. This is his close:

Do you really want this to be you? Do you really think Trump will not leave your reputation as so much roadkill on the highway after enlisting you in sliming someone else a week or two after you take office?

The lesson here is that these are not honorable people, and they will do their best to drag you down to their level. They will often succeed.

117
Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2017 • 12:32:36pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Trump couldn’t just come out and say he has tapes because then he’d have to produce them. That tweet is a desperate gambit by an increasingly shaken and unhinged lunatic.

Notice that the word tapes was in quotation marks which suggests that they don’t exist at all (which is probably the case) and that he will get his folks to make up tapes if he’s pushed to produce them.

118
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 12:33:13pm
119
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 12:34:48pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Anymouse wonders if this is snark, as he posts his response from a Windows XP machine using a carrier pigeon.

My mother uses her Windows 95 machine to write E-mail.

In seriousness, I wonder what the attack vector for this ransomware is? Specially-crafted Webpage? Clicking on an unknown link from someone?

Lawhawk had a good explanation in the overnight/morning thread.

120
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 12:35:50pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

With Napoleon Dynamite on bass! :)

121
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 12:36:51pm

heh

122
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 12:37:36pm

re: #69 Mike Lamb

I have a relative who’s a prosecutor in the Treasury Dept. and she tells me she wouldn’t even try to make that a case of intimidation. Forget that the judge would throw it out in an instant, her peers would question her sanity. And she’s no wallflower, her next promotion would require a senate confirmation (which she has no desire to endure).

123
Franklin  May 12, 2017 • 12:37:42pm

re: #117 Patricia Kayden

Notice that the word tapes was in quotation marks which suggests that they don’t exist at all (which is probably the case) and that he will get his folks to make up tapes if he’s pushed to produce them.

Or…he put it in tapes because of the kerfuffle he caused with the whole “tapped my phones” business. Seems similar since who the hell tapes anything nowadays.

124
petesh  May 12, 2017 • 12:38:32pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

Interesting that hype and grandiloquence were there from the get-go.

125
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 12:38:51pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

They didn’t seem to mind when Bill O’Reilly interrupted President Obama 48 times in a similar time span.

IOKIYAR.

126
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 12:38:56pm

Yeesh. Somebody must have called out the flying monkeys on me. It’s one whack job after another in my Twitter timeline. One just told me to “go hang yourself in your mother’s closet.”

127
Amory Blaine  May 12, 2017 • 12:40:07pm

Shouldn’t the squirrel have a puppet?

128
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 12:40:18pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

The messenger must be destroyed, especially because they have no message of their own.

129
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:40:36pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Yeesh. Somebody must have called out the flying monkeys on me. It’s one whack job after another in my Twitter timeline. One just told me to “go hang yourself in your mother’s closet.”

Awfully sensitive aren’t they?

130
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 12:40:49pm

Also, Lester Holt is black.

There’s always a racism angle with these people.

131
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 12:40:52pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Good Christians, one and all.

132
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 12:41:29pm
133
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:41:42pm

re: #125 lawhawk

They didn’t seem to mind when Bill O’Reilly interrupted President Obama 48 times in a similar time span.

[Embedded content]

IOKIYAR.

More like IOKIHIB (It’s Okay If He Is Black).

134
I cannot.  May 12, 2017 • 12:42:18pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Did they post it under Breitbart’s “Black Crime” heading?

135
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 12:43:02pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe all three of those nations have state run media as well.

136
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 12, 2017 • 12:43:05pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

IOKIYARAEIHB

It’s OK if you’re a Republican, and especially if he’s black.

137
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:43:21pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, Lester Holt is black.

There’s always a racism angle with these people.

White interviewer interrupting Black President = GOOD

Black interviewer interrupting White President = BAD.

I thought everyone knew this rule.
///

138
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:44:06pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Gee and we saw how much Fox flipped out when Obama called them bs. But hey all is well. // Let’s get Fabio’s take on crime!

139
Alephnaught  May 12, 2017 • 12:44:09pm

re: #96 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s OK to use old PCs, you just can’t responsibly connect them to the Internet.

Well, apparently, this is exactly what happened with respect to the NHS and other organisations which have been hacked. And a lot of people on Twitter are asking questions about it.

140
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:44:19pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe all three of those nations have state run media as well.

Hey! Us too!

141
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 12:45:00pm
142
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 12:45:32pm

re: #125 lawhawk

They didn’t seem to mind when Bill O’Reilly interrupted President Obama 48 times in a similar time span.

[Embedded content]

IOKIYAR.

143
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:46:00pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That’s don’t add peas, pease.

144
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:46:36pm

It’s just like the Bush years. The media has to kiss the President’s ass if he’s a Republican. If he’s a Democrat especially a black one, he ahs to be treated like an emeny agent. Them’s the rules.

145
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 12:47:25pm
146
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:49:37pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

It’s been like that Charlie. You just weren’t paying attention because you were enjoying it. From McCarthy’s red baiting General Marshall to Buckley’s blatant racism and Reagan’s condescending crap disguised as being a witty grandpa, conservatism has been being a condescending dick for a long time.

147
bratwurst  May 12, 2017 • 12:49:49pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Yeesh. Somebody must have called out the flying monkeys on me. It’s one whack job after another in my Twitter timeline. One just told me to “go hang yourself in your mother’s closet.”

If only the person who said that could get a job as a coal miner and alleviate their obvious economic anxiety!

148
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 12:49:51pm
149
BlueGrl21  May 12, 2017 • 12:50:01pm

re: #78 EPR-radar

Exactly. As soon as a Republican runs for President on a platform of explicit Nazism, these are the pig-people who will give that Nazism their full support.

They’ve made being a Trump supporter or a Republican supporter a part of their identity…and no one does well when their concept of who they are is threatened. They tend to dig in deeper. And there’s really nothing that can be done about it. It’s psychology.

I’ve noticed Democrats don’t tend to do this. They don’t get their identity tied up in being a Democrat. We’re a lot of other things and one aspect is our political affiliation. But it’s not WHO WE ARE.

I exclude the True Believers on the Left from this. Die-hard Berners have taken that on as an identity too. Their gang.

Basically, people need to get a life with their politics as one aspect of it.

150
lawhawk  May 12, 2017 • 12:50:51pm
151
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 12:51:16pm
152
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 12:52:51pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It’s been like that Charlie. You just weren’t paying attention because you were enjoying getting paid a lot of money to help it.

Fixed for accuracy.

153
Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2017 • 12:53:06pm
154
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:54:02pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Fixed for accuracy.

Both work :).

155
Amory Blaine  May 12, 2017 • 12:54:05pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Charlie Sykes has done a lot of damage in this area for decades. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

156
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 12:55:04pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

Charlie Sykes has done a lot of damage in this area for decades. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

I thought I had you and some of our other Wisconites talk about him before. Don’t know a otn about him but it seems to me this would be like Limbaugh or Savage decrying the present sate of conservatism.

157
KerFuFFler  May 12, 2017 • 12:55:25pm

re: #123 Franklin

Or…he put it in tapes because of the kerfuffle he caused with the whole “tapped my phones” business. Seems similar since who the hell tapes anything nowadays.

Guess you have not been watching Better Call Saul!

158
Franklin  May 12, 2017 • 12:57:40pm

re: #157 KerFuFFler

Guess you have not been watching Better Call Saul!

Ha! Well played.

This past episode was brilliant. Michal McKean is such a phenomenal actor.

160
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 12:58:17pm

re: #85 Interesting Times

Also too, these people are inspired by trump (in a way they weren’t inspired by Gene Eric Republican) because he represents pure distilled asshole wish fulfillment - durr hurr, he FIRED the guy in charge of investigating him! Total badass!!1!!

In other words, an evil, ignorant, greedy sleazebag with no genuine skills or competence rises to a position of ultimate wealth and power and proceeds to live out every fantasy held by his troll-like followers. That’s why every lie he tells and every horrible thing he does only makes these drooling cultists worship him all the more.

In other words, Trump is Wingnut God. That model really fits, IMO.

161
Mike Lamb  May 12, 2017 • 12:58:58pm

re: #122 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I have a relative who’s a prosecutor in the Treasury Dept. and she tells me she wouldn’t even try to make that a case of intimidation. Forget that the judge would throw it out in an instant, her peers would question her sanity. And she’s no wallflower, her next promotion would require a senate confirmation (which she has no desire to endure).

Just because proving a claim beyond a reasonable doubt would be difficult does not make your argument plausible. Suggesting that the Tweet goes to Comey’s “credibility” is absurd on its face.

162
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 1:02:08pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It’s been like that Charlie. You just weren’t paying attention because you were enjoying it. From McCarthy’s red baiting General Marshall to Buckley’s blatant racism and Reagan’s condescending crap disguised as being a witty grandpa, conservatism has been being a condescending dick for a long time.

Please send your comment to Charlie Sykes. The guys like Charlie that think they are moderates need to know they fed the beast. Your comment is spot on.

From http:// www.rightwisconsin. com/about-us/(email)contact-us : cjaysykes@gmail. com

(Extra Spaces before com)

163
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 12, 2017 • 1:02:44pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

164
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 1:03:33pm

re: #151 makeitstop

Oh, my. Florida Man (and wife).

In a story resembling elements of the Pina Colada song…..

LOL

165
KerFuFFler  May 12, 2017 • 1:06:13pm

re: #158 Franklin

Ha! Well played.

This past episode was brilliant. Michal McKean is such a phenomenal actor.

I loved the most recent episode and agree that McKean did a fantastic job. I have read lots of comments that he should get an Emmy nomination for that performance. But really, the whole episode was great all around———-acting, writing and cinematography!

166
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 1:07:29pm
167
I cannot.  May 12, 2017 • 1:08:15pm

NVM, Fake Nooz

168
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 1:08:28pm

re: #161 Mike Lamb

Just because proving a claim beyond a reasonable doubt would be difficult does not make your argument plausible. Suggesting that the Tweet goes to Comey’s “credibility” is absurd on its face.

I’d say that the tweet is problematic in so many ways, and all of them for Trump.

First, he hints at secret recordings that the Press Secretary won’t deny exist, and which precedent has established can be subpoenaed by Congress, and which are subject to the same restrictions as all official records, i.e. they can’t be legally destroyed.

Second, he’s clearly trying to intimidate Comey, whether it fits someone’s legal definition of ‘intimidation’ or not. EVERYONE sees this.

Third, if he’s bluffing, and he almost certainly IS, Congress can, and probably WILL call his bluff.

Fourth, between his characterizing the conversation to Holt, and the tweet hinting at recording, EVERYONE who enters the Oval Office, or talks to Trump, now will assume not only that they’re being recorded, but that anything that’s said there, no matter how confidential they may think it is, is likely to be blabbed by Trump, on a whim. This goes for foreign leaders, too. They’ll probably pre-leak, defensively.

169
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 1:08:47pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

FFS. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution not to kiss your orange ass.

170
Belafon  May 12, 2017 • 1:09:25pm

I want people to physically injure themselves reaching this far:

James Comey Is the Latest Victim of the Clintons

by Michael Barone May 12, 2017 12:00 AM @michaelbarone
They leave chaos in their wake and retreat back into their wealthy, privileged existence.

h/t comment at Balloon Juice

171
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 1:09:55pm

O_O

172
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 1:10:53pm

re: #165 KerFuFFler

I loved the most recent episode and agree that McKean did a fantastic job. I have read lots of comments that he should get an Emmy nomination for that performance. But really, the whole episode was great all around———-acting, writing and cinematography!

Love that show! At the end of each episode, I think, “Oh, MAN! Now I have to wait a whole WEEK!!”

173
HappyWarrior  May 12, 2017 • 1:11:16pm

re: #170 Belafon

I want people to physically injure themselves reaching this far:

James Comey Is the Latest Victim of the Clintons

h/t comment at Balloon Juice

Saw that bullshit earlier. I’m sure someone at NRO is blaming the Clintons for Hitler. I’m erally sick of their pedantic bullshit disguised as “intellectual discussion”, no you’re just Breitbart for high class snobs like your founder Buckley who was a racist and elitist piece of shit.

174
Interesting Times  May 12, 2017 • 1:12:14pm

re: #151 makeitstop

re: #164 Stanley Sea

re: #167 I cannot.

Fake news :( (same with the marries-own-granddaughter story linked by the same site)

…though in a world where a trump presidency is real, who can be blamed for believing it?

175
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 1:13:54pm
176
KerFuFFler  May 12, 2017 • 1:14:14pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

Love that show! At the end of each episode, I think, “Oh, MAN! Now I have to wait a whole WEEK!!”

Me too! Yay, it’s Friday so next Monday is not far off…..

177
Unshaken Defiance  May 12, 2017 • 1:14:29pm

Not quite sure how well this is going to work out.
National Black Gun Association Gives Voice to Black Gun Owners that NRA Doesn’t
Seen in “CurlyNikki”. A hairstyle/beauty magazine aimed at African Americans. Black interest story. Maybe not fake news.

So I Google the organization. This link comes up.
NATIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN GUN ASSOCIATION
aka NAAG. Perhaps an unfortunate acronym.

178
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 1:15:02pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

He’s so addled he gives it all away.

179
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 1:16:49pm

re: #174 Interesting Times

I was starting to wonder. Seems a 49 year old advertising herself as a 28 year old wouldn’t work out very well.

180
CongoJack  May 12, 2017 • 1:16:50pm

Later Lizards.

I will be back this evening if:
1. My wife falls asleep early.
or
2. “Shit does down.”

Have a great weekend!

182
Blind Frog Belly White  May 12, 2017 • 1:18:52pm

re: #177 Unshaken Defiance

That name! I immediately thought of this South Park episode…

183
Big Beautiful Door  May 12, 2017 • 1:26:10pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

Love that show! At the end of each episode, I think, “Oh, MAN! Now I have to wait a whole WEEK!!”

I have a big crush on Kim Wexler, so I’m watching in fascinated dread as Jimmy pulls her down with him. Hope she somehow gets out of this with her legal career intact.

184
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 1:26:42pm
185
allegro  May 12, 2017 • 1:27:20pm

Whee! My first use of my new Instant Pot. Homemade hummus. Om nom nom.

Exactly 2 hours from when I put the dried, unsoaked chick peas in the IP to now enjoying warm, delicious hummus. I am impressed. :)

186
Decatur Deb  May 12, 2017 • 1:30:24pm

ct1JSi4YleLYu8YCI1UIiiZxOwwAfPRh/A1htas00rAxVuWUYxJK/vuAm84dNY/2JZ5Zrpb7hHTkcG1G96JhfE2zq6bbB9HD/z209R5+LBLjFLNpS1wzTOvKEBMzV3wBDaFrnhy1D5wbL3NPjnjKUoTxOjd0kAbdla0oPeFQpwf/ffgrzsthJwHRVtyYvd6HEfNyO0eYd+ZK7A3/IPdRqFVYloIvpOWeZDZP/rlQ4ZBdn477YGHfvtwMHoooShzXIuSpVjM5XYSSDXnMWzpqO6v0Y5Ly/WJbhJzPm0/MjuR0eb67/i81S58huR8/5pOGx+Eg706kJKevZgtSuTIyPMeIVa+/advGyxIWvqax7YRPC+IWEuSRuX/niIthRXihh8TDLCT7C/4S41n9YVT5ndpJtN8eUf02T3OzlEJaiOObZnHj4XyyY+X+opgfIlKe5CVJeEM4HJ85IBnGPrn4epm3ilnt1a1Jhr1rdL8kCBb7laGD0XFBxEIDCjdT7V4aYi1z1/W8advEPP6rGHWJu43FwmKCrRAlIz77W5pCj/HQX8+9tXvqv7VfR05qZ6EIiwpsE+COR9iVqKdgnJZShALEo6lhRhW8pq+fi+t8lDbw1EOSIeJk6DeN0snfJT7n0mOVkU3cRO9CDAhrb0QOq7hrRET77Z3pFLObRb51oKyPe8kcF1C9FbLwR8gUCfcEfDuMoI1Bjt01fF/QwI+wDP/0XW39LaaDqoVVMvxDCXe4fNcAg+cXs+8f1qwzDsASxgcfoym9Jcvaa/ZFgxzNNyls17M3Dgf2O4Y6xEQDBvnyRgR15nILlrjcxUkNGacyVqtP4k3rNoeb4A4Zf5DKbb7MCIZZ0tCMPAQDO3E3DT1GcKXu9IL5C88s8PsNHBUPgyY/AsZFeqpm7BUMoZrNpOOnVGDT0D66/DFCKA/Cg+Y=

187
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 1:30:53pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

No way that doggie did that…look at that face. Innocent as h*ck. 12/10

188
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 1:30:56pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim from the warm, beautiful, partly cloudy wild north country. I am exhausted and it has been a week to forget (which I may, later tonight, if my whiskey bottle has its way). How are things among the lizardfolk on this Thank-God-it’s-Friday? What fresh hell has been unleashed in the hour and change since I last connected to the Interwebs?

189
GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2017 • 1:31:10pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Reality: Trump lies 9 times in 3 minutes

190
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 1:36:43pm

re: #149 BlueGrl21

They’ve made being a Trump supporter or a Republican supporter a part of their identity…and no one does well when their concept of who they are is threatened. They tend to dig in deeper. And there’s really nothing that can be done about it. It’s psychology.

I’ve noticed Democrats don’t tend to do this. They don’t get their identity tied up in being a Democrat. We’re a lot of other things and one aspect is our political affiliation. But it’s not WHO WE ARE.

I exclude the True Believers on the Left from this. Die-hard Berners have taken that on as an identity too. Their gang.

Basically, people need to get a life with their politics as one aspect of it.

To some extent, the far right and the far left are both so embedded in the tribalism aspects that they’re difficult to reach, if not impossible. (A large amount of time, someone who is willing to work with you, carefully approaching the topic over a long period of time …you might get somewhere, but no guarantees.)

It’s the people in the middle who are reachable. But even then, if you approach the discussion as this one aspect (like, say, voting for Trump) completely defines who they are …that’s not setting the conversation up for success because that’s putting them on the defensive. People don’t respond well on the defensive and most people aren’t going to stop and work through the emotional reaction (driven by our fight or flight reflex) to think about things logically or rationally.

I don’t know. I’m well aware of why the inclination is to push that way - it’s simple logic, this should be easy and straightforward, why are you being so idiotic and refusing to see reason?!? - and this is a huge part of why I don’t talk politics much outside of here.

I suspect this reaction is maybe slightly less ingrained in a system where there are more than two parties, but since most of my observation comes from the US, it’s hard to say for sure.

191
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 1:36:45pm

This video is absolutely nuts. They seal themselves into a plexiglas box and the director shoots fireworks at them.

Biffy Clyro - Flammable (Official Video)

There’s also a 360-degree version here.

(Good band, too. I keep waiting for them to become as huge as they should be.)

192
mmmirele  May 12, 2017 • 1:38:48pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Anymouse wonders if this is snark, as he posts his response from a Windows XP machine using a carrier pigeon.

My mother uses her Windows 95 machine to write E-mail.

In seriousness, I wonder what the attack vector for this ransomware is? Specially-crafted Webpage? Clicking on an unknown link from someone?

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

193
Teukka  May 12, 2017 • 1:40:21pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Anymouse wonders if this is snark, as he posts his response from a Windows XP machine using a carrier pigeon.

My mother uses her Windows 95 machine to write E-mail.

In seriousness, I wonder what the attack vector for this ransomware is? Specially-crafted Webpage? Clicking on an unknown link from someone?

Vector appears to be link or attachment in email. Software in question is WannaCry/Wcry/WannaCrypt0r.

194
Belafon  May 12, 2017 • 1:43:24pm

re: #77 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If that’s the case, the attack came from inside the government. You can’t connect an XP machine to the Internet. It’s just not an option due to security holes.

Well, you CAN connect it to the internet. It’s kind of like walking into a lion’s den wearing a meat suit, but there’s nothing stopping them.

195
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 1:47:04pm
196
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 1:47:14pm

re: #194 Belafon

Well, you CAN connect it to the internet. It’s kind of like walking into a lion’s den wearing a meat suit, but there’s nothing stopping them.

Hold my beer…I’m connecting to the ‘net.

197
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 1:48:44pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“I swear to God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the United States and people, Donald Trump, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

198
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 1:48:47pm

re: #194 Belafon

Well, you CAN connect it to the internet. It’s kind of like walking into a lion’s den wearing a meat suit, but there’s nothing stopping them.

xkcd.com

199
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 1:49:47pm

A thread that points up that while Trump’s inability to shut the fuck up is Problem #1, having a completely inept communications team is Problem #1a.

200
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 1:50:00pm

re: #191 makeitstop

This video is absolutely nuts. They seal themselves into a plexiglas box and the director shoots fireworks at them.

[Embedded content]

Video

There’s also a 360-degree version here.

(Good band, too. I keep waiting for them to become as huge as they should be.)

Cool song. Just looked them up.

201
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 1:53:24pm

re: #200 Stanley Sea

Cool song. Just looked them up.

They’re great. Currently my favorite rock band in the world.

‘Animal Style’ is my fave song off the new album, but they’ve got a boatload of really good songs.

202
Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2017 • 1:54:01pm

re: #197 Timothy Watson

“I swear to God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the United States and people, Donald Trump, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

That sounds so familiar……I can’t quite put mein Finger on it.

///

203
Romantic Heretic  May 12, 2017 • 1:54:02pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Guess who just had their funding removed in Trump’s budget?

204
austin_blue  May 12, 2017 • 1:54:41pm

Chelsea beat the Baggies one-nil and seal the English Premier League.

Go Blues!

205
sagehen  May 12, 2017 • 1:54:46pm

I had a nice nap this afternoon, and a wish-fulfillment dream.

The Murdochs meet with UK regulators about maybe possibly being able to buy Sky… and UK (who doesn’t in fact have a 1st Amendment) tells them that Fox News and dishonest partisanship is an issue. If FNC were to become, oh let’s say, a bit more honest and even-handed, that might help make the sale.

Sky is more important to the parent company than US FNC profits. So they do it….

Yeah, I know, unrealistic. I did say it was a wish-fulfillment dream, right?

206
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 1:54:47pm

So Lizards. It’s Friday. Let’s take a moment to breathe. Any fun plans for the weekend? Hummus to share with the group? Other food?

My runs for the week are done, only have to put together 500 words for the book today (which I will start shortly), waiting on a quote from the electrician for a whole house fan, and then I will craft this afternoon.

I’m thinking stitching, but I could do beading or coloring too. I don’t know.

207
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 1:56:17pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So Lizards. It’s Friday. Let’s take a moment to breathe. Any fun plans for the weekend? Hummus to share with the group? Other food?

I am going to try and catch up on some sleep and forget this week ever happened. (Accomplishing one may necessarily accomplish the other, depending on how hard I sleep after passing out.) Mrs. Fish made a lovely breakfast bake with Pillsbury biscuits, eggs, ham, and cheese. I will probably consume way too much of this deliciousness.

208
Jebediah, RBG  May 12, 2017 • 1:56:40pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

Sure he did it! He’s a self-motivated go-getter outside-the-box-thinker! Admirable as h*ck, 13/10!

209
Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2017 • 1:59:01pm

Looks like it’s hit the Czech Republic according to this map.

intel.malwaretech.com

210
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 1:59:48pm
211
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 1:59:53pm

re: #203 Romantic Heretic

Guess who just had their funding removed in Trump’s budget?

There is no limit to how much of a cocky asshole he can be.

212
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 2:00:38pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Muslims are like: WTF?

213
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 2:01:35pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are there really people who can’t slice open an avocado without needing stitches? They should be forbidden from wielding sharp implements.

214
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 2:01:55pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

It really helps to understand modern conservatism if you realize it’s just gang mentality. Republicans are the gang, Trump is (for now) their leader and that’s where the thought process ends, full stop.

They don’t think he cares about them per se. They think he’s the guy they have to support to win their turf war over US politics with liberals. Like Bush he’s an intentionally disposable President, only more so. He always has been. When he goes down they’ll feign disgust and transfer loyalty to the winner of the next leadership battle.

These people have zero personal integrity. They’re united by hate and white cultural resentment. They deliberately repeat lies in order to demonstrate membership like street gangs flash hand signs, as a kind of shibboleth. It’s not that they’re stupid, it’s that they’re evil.

In the novel 1984 (which I last read 40 years ago), the members of the society were ritually exposed on a daily basis to “two minutes of hate” which prepared them to blindly follow the government no matter where it led. Trump and his loyal supporters are daily exposed to hours of hate from Alex Jones, Fox News, Breitbart, etc. I don’t know what it would take to deprogram them but this environment is toxic to a democracy. These people all recite from the same dishonest sources and it’s deeply inculcated into their minds and souls. Hillary won a plurality but the combination of the onslaught of more voter suppression coming our way, gerrymandering, and the EC may doom us, unless we are able to rid government of Trump, Pence, and the whole Republican leadership.

This week I learned that a friend is a devotee of Louise Mensch. Some Lizards don’t seem that fond of her, and my impression is that she is perhaps an Alex Jones of the left (with a superior presentation) but how accurate has she been? Does she have real connections to serious sources?

215
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 2:02:00pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

216
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 2:03:28pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

Are there really people who can’t slice open an avocado without needing stitches? They should be forbidden from wielding sharp implements.

I’ve got a really cool avocado tool that would take a real effort on the part of the user to do physical damage.

217
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 2:05:00pm

re: #205 sagehen

I had a nice nap this afternoon, and a wish-fulfillment dream.

The Murdochs meet with UK regulators about maybe possibly being able to buy Sky… and UK (who doesn’t in fact have a 1st Amendment) tells them that Fox News and dishonest partisanship is an issue. If FNC were to become, oh let’s say, a bit more honest and even-handed, that might help make the sale.

Sky is more important to the parent company than US FNC profits. So they do it….

Yeah, I know, unrealistic. I did say it was a wish-fulfillment dream, right?

Funny you should mention that. I had a phone chat with my friend who does bumper music for Fox News today.

He was hooked up for the music gig with a high school friend of his, who was personally brought into Fox News at the outset by Roger Ailes. The guy had it made, making in excess of a million a year running the arm of Fox News that handles music for all the shows.

My friend said the guy has been on edge since Ailes got the boot, and he got called into a high-level meeting this week, with FN upper management, Uncle Rupert and his sons. He was told that the company was dismissing everyone brought into the company by Ailes, and they offered him a very generous severance package worth roughly 3/4 of a million dollars. He thought he’d be shrewd and drive for a better deal, so he turned the severance package down thinking he could negotiate more money out of them.

Nope. As soon as he turned down the package they told him that he’d get nothing, called security and had them escort him out of the building. They didn’t even let him clear out his office, they just dumped him on the sidewalk.

They seem to be bending over backwards to get the Sky deal done, so maybe your wish fulfillment isn’t too far out of the realm of possibility.

218
Romantic Heretic  May 12, 2017 • 2:05:00pm

re: #90 Anymouse

They’d better make sure that they’ve done a really good job of covering their tracks. Russia and China are not the kind of countries you fuck with. It can lead to a sudden case of falling off a high building, a ‘home invasion’ or some such.

And they have the people to do it.

219
Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2017 • 2:06:19pm

re: #218 Romantic Heretic

They’d better make sure that they’ve done a really good job of covering their tracks. Russia and China are not the kind of countries you fuck with. It can lead to a sudden case of falling off a high building, a ‘home invasion’ or some such.

And they have the people to do it.

Or slipping on a bar of soap and falling off the balcony after shooting oneself 16 times in the head.

Another senseless suicide.

220
Teukka  May 12, 2017 • 2:08:26pm

re: #218 Romantic Heretic

They’d better make sure that they’ve done a really good job of covering their tracks. Russia and China are not the kind of countries you fuck with. It can lead to a sudden case of falling off a high building, a ‘home invasion’ or some such.

And they have the people to do it.

I would say that it could be a state actor hungry for what it thinks is untraceable funds. But yeah, this big an attack will ruffle a feather or two.

221
Unshaken Defiance  May 12, 2017 • 2:08:38pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

Are there really people who can’t slice open an avocado without needing stitches? They should be forbidden from wielding sharp implements.

Heh, perfect time to plug Skillet.

How to Pit an Avocado Without Hurting Yourself

222
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 2:11:17pm

re: #47 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s a fabulous thread. Read it from the top. Very good.

223
jeffreyw  May 12, 2017 • 2:11:22pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ha! I had a black lab that went right out of the truck, over me, through my driver’s side window, and into the drive-in window of a hamburger joint while we were waiting for our bag of burgers. I had to pull up and park, get out, and drag his doggie ass back out.

224
darthstar  May 12, 2017 • 2:11:56pm
225
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 2:12:03pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Chelsea beat the Baggies one-nil and seal the English Premier League.

Go Blues!

Shame, really. But they were indisputably the best team all season in the EPL.

226
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 2:12:22pm

re: #94 Rocky-in-Connecticut

They are not stupid. They are evil.

Can’t Trump supporters be both?

227
goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2017 • 2:14:38pm

re: #214 Hecuba’s daughter

This week I learned that a friend is a devotee of Louise Mensch. Some Lizards don’t seem that fond of her, and my impression is that she is perhaps an Alex Jones of the left (with a superior presentation) but how accurate has she been? Does she have real connections to serious sources?

Mensch is a British conservative lunatic who is trying to reinvent herself here in the US. She’s deeply manipulative, unstable and habitually deletes her tweets, predictions and stories that turn out not to be true. I don’t trust her at all.

228
Mike Lamb  May 12, 2017 • 2:15:27pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The real problem is that these fucknuts absolutely believe to their core that what Pence is saying is accurate. They’re slaves because they have to bake the same cake for anyone—black, white, or gay. They’re put upon because people say Happy Holidays and not Merry Christmas. They are being silenced because creationism isn’t taught in science classes.

229
allegro  May 12, 2017 • 2:15:38pm

re: #224 darthstar

[Embedded content]

The new Kilroy.

230
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 2:17:45pm

re: #217 makeitstop

OMG he must be beside himself.

231
Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2017 • 2:17:49pm

Well, goodnight Lizards. Time to call it a day.

232
Brian J.  May 12, 2017 • 2:18:41pm

re: #217 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Kelvin MacKenzie, the former long-time editor of the Sun (a Murdoch-owned paper and Britain’s most popular tabloid) was fired last week from his position as a columnist. It’s pretty clear that Murdoch wants nothing to get in the way of that Sky purchase and that behavior he’s tolerated or even approved in previous years is too embarrassing to permit any longer.

233
makeitstop  May 12, 2017 • 2:19:37pm

re: #230 Stanley Sea

OMG he must be beside himself.

One horrifically bad gamble on his part.

(To be clear - my friend said that the guy was pretty much a total dick after going to work there. Prior to working at FN he was a pretty solid liberal, but he drank the Ailes Koolaid to the limit and turned into a mini-O’Reilly, just being nasty to the women in his employ. And he somehow thought he was bulletproof even after Ailes got tossed.)

Shows you how badly Rupe wants Sky, though.

234
Romantic Heretic  May 12, 2017 • 2:22:18pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

[Embedded content]

XIgxfMFFTF31k7OnqayMIL9LnlWJgGL6PbJKILSwY4Rid8fxYJYQBg==

235
Romantic Heretic  May 12, 2017 • 2:23:02pm

re: #189 GlutenFreeJesus

Reality: Trump lies 9 times in 3 minutes

That little?

236
Brian J.  May 12, 2017 • 2:23:09pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim from the warm, beautiful, partly cloudy wild north country. I am exhausted and it has been a week to forget (which I may, later tonight, if my whiskey bottle has its way). How are things among the lizardfolk on this Thank-God-it’s-Friday? What fresh hell has been unleashed in the hour and change since I last connected to the Interwebs?

This:

(You’d think a man named Rosenstein would know better than to use the Befehl ist Befehl defense…)

237
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 2:23:48pm

re: #236 Brian J.

Nothing really new about that. Drumpf lackey says “nothing to see here, move along”.

238
I Would Prefer Not To  May 12, 2017 • 2:24:10pm

re: #233 makeitstop

One horrifically bad gamble on his part.

Shows you how badly Rupe wants Sky.

It’s like Murdoch is auditioning for the next James Bond Villain.

239
darthstar  May 12, 2017 • 2:25:04pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Spicy is a snowflake:

[Embedded content]

You know what’s offensive? A lying president.

240
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 2:25:12pm

re: #236 Brian J.

This:

[Embedded content]

My shocked face:

241
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 2:25:33pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

HuffPost Politics ✔ @HuffPostPol
Pence tells room full of Christians in D.C. their faith is the most persecuted huffp.st
7:26 PM - 11 May 2017
284 284 Retweets 213 213 likes

That right there is one dangerous man.

So put upon those fundie Christians…as they hate on other religions.

I still remember the early 70s and the growth of the Jesus Freaks. Who knew it would grow to this point…but I guess I should have seen it coming.

242
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 2:26:00pm

re: #238 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s like Murdoch is auditioning for the next James Bond Villain.

243
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 2:27:37pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

oh……..

Good—that will give the intrepid White House press corps. time to do some actual reporting rather than attend the daily Punch and Judy Show.

244
Amory Blaine  May 12, 2017 • 2:28:40pm

A mango is way more of a pain in the ass to cut than an avocado.

245
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 2:30:13pm

e07K8trsqJAWdG0hptptbPSQpA5Rnc692UgBKHNa2NCPZOaemglldpnVZNQDs6H/ef//XchNxidlDIpv+if1yCUqcIn722LfMJYNDxlUWpw5c0v2P6JPPaRQWbNrhK3U/DsR6dtLrFx50p5qjC2jCK9piaGbDxYCc/fn6ovhYRTaxGucJ/E8CXhsskSGw0R8KHQk9EWxSbosjbM7NZ2idHoCCOewq5YPwvkjbpvQGbsWqkA79UyPyYksFSAGhw7Oc7QseAxsjXIwvdMfPkidHj2V+GZH/rFGp0O0VkeLxfWMQ6dWUrMs+UJTfYAwOgG4VVos9AfcusZPqv2l7q817yhF7YcZpoLrzZ3/mOmh5cf5sLtkWNCwm9xx14Oc/lNXH3hkWrNGCaD6NciyeZubPD616byXoANJKiVYMECQqOhXHTf7jUFNVUaCTbN0+B9yeH55opmSZ6RwcAtHWZ5me8X5kK2FGFczcMG7ilRXrWGBvDkhMgUOqQVSsKxfQmVuq+E0fnfIFlCoBX5nOsdqeWZNBu2lQzOSCijsylhwGUWbQfG+fZQoDNaPTfAG3bEw

246
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 2:31:00pm

re: #233 makeitstop

One horrifically bad gamble on his part.

(To be clear - my friend said that the guy was pretty much a total dick after going to work there. Prior to working at FN he was a pretty solid liberal, but he drank the Ailes Koolaid to the limit and turned into a mini-O’Reilly, just being nasty to the women in his employ. And he somehow thought he was bulletproof even after Ailes got tossed.)

Shows you how badly Rupe wants Sky, though.

Cool to know, my empathy for him flat-lined.

247
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 2:32:04pm

re: #245 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

JPZFAZm7zh3W7xZh9RpDxqLCdgiaWAaxp2/hcauLirGfVCtwqIFBuBbOkXOumsdPKfqZ3BpU4OKSVhHVdIGakRVx1f+pcphv02/44rcyf9LgvKopqDnoNeD1/cXAIKM9WVh9hNgMs1RwkJ1kAexhCManjKWuZiduTKvjcoBWY0RbtgC18b5y0w==

248
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 2:33:08pm

re: #247 thedopefishlives

Vp717SKmIi8twoOHn/4YQG2X/LPWJ8zx0WdJiqh9IgquGpGoyYCry2FXjEa3Y4lzawHNtb4wezuVte+nBoKoDk4Sf8ZKII9F82y72hcEz+bgtwr+gFbNn/SMTyWQ8DJ6AyhoRUaRfJLKW38lpcYnPp3rKi2x3xMN

249
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 2:34:06pm

re: #248 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

5QslSuUuBeSZaZ2n2pB+guN3PP8VzedaKcYtX6piZMfU9xTvT+azcW766H3fF72+pkePhmL+ydrpMPPniTDkO/yQweMrapoaVMZfH1EtSDNzgAkDYfynhs0++9vusfN1aC+Dg7aTKIMv444xF4JTK4YfsPohHzOY7S7NrYpHszK3Eoxiwdkww49eUPvM43BU8LFw7d1lePw=

250
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 2:35:19pm
251
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 2:36:06pm

re: #3 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Reposted from previous thread:

I have been doing a lot of lurking lately. Usually I only have a few minutes to scroll down the page on my phone as a general way of seeing what going on (as opposed to a CNN site where there is a sea of headlines and I can’t really go clicking on them. One thing I’ve noticed lately is that with all this stuff going on, it has really put a dent into the lizard community. By that I mean there are hardly any food pics, personal anecdotes, lizard to lizard interaction and so on. It’s like we can’t catch our breath or something.

Yeah, I’ve been lurking quite a bit too. By the time I get caught up on all the crazy, I know I’m going to need to go do something else pretty soon and I hate just posting and running.

252
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 2:37:58pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

253
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 2:38:59pm
254
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 2:40:32pm

re: #252 Targetpractice

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Obvious to you…others, not so much.

255
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 2:40:32pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ryan is spinning like a top to deflect from the fact that the Orange Menace is a bumbling clown who is ineptly trying to cover up his connections to Russia.

256
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 2:41:59pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So Lizards. It’s Friday. Let’s take a moment to breathe. Any fun plans for the weekend? Hummus to share with the group? Other food?

My runs for the week are done, only have to put together 500 words for the book today (which I will start shortly), waiting on a quote from the electrician for a whole house fan, and then I will craft this afternoon.

I’m thinking stitching, but I could do beading or coloring too. I don’t know.

[Embedded content]

I’m getting a good chance to breathe at the moment. I got everything I needed to do done by mid morning, hiked for an hour at Windy Hill (no, I didn’t go all the way up) and came back for lunch, some weaving and now a little relaxation. I should be in a car heading for the Cabrillo College plant sale, but someone forgot which weekend this was and scheduled something work-related this afternoon. Grumble, grumble.

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

257
Jay C  May 12, 2017 • 2:42:12pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Well, he’s right: “nothing has changed”. Paul Ryan is still a clueless ass…

PS: What “Congressional investigators”?? Devin Nunes and his buffoon-circus of a Committee? Puh-leeeeze!

258
harlequinade  May 12, 2017 • 2:43:07pm

At this point you have to ask - how deep in is Ryan?

259
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 2:44:08pm

re: #255 EPR-radar

Ryan is spinning like a top to deflect from the fact that the Orange Menace is a bumbling clown who is ineptly trying to cover up his connections to Russia.

Ryan’s watching his entire legislative docket go down the tubes. Tax “reform,” Trumpcare, “Starve the beast” budgeting, all of that is being subsumed under the growing tumor that is Russiagate. The longer that its allowed to grow, the more damage it does to their agenda, but excising it would mean pretty much abandoning said agenda for another election cycle.

260
wrenchwench  May 12, 2017 • 2:44:31pm
261
Jay C  May 12, 2017 • 2:45:02pm

re: #258 harlequinade

At this point you have to ask - how deep in is Ryan?

If it were only an inch deep?
He’d still be in over his head.

262
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 2:45:07pm

re: #256 calochortus

uvl2CKPWEbSJHw3QR3vxPwfLedFHuOQleRwoQd2CyPMjCgiv8TBT/+ejajUVCqkC4QgMETUr5naMj5UF+k7pg7X/K4H2a+QBPVBvR7w4cVh1NU/pL+Rz3Lqcg9vdAQ5G8cUF1sI9zanUjg5EN0pEsILoSsKdny2MzbPda7K8Xa4ubk1DwOCMQk/eZJeE5Rxs/3nnnIGfwOAAo8drzduwRI/ngAOi+zpVA3yc3rQoQ4gToYs4pDzaG3/z6Ob57T2iIzFVK6DASRI1eVhD8sUEATJK39YL4YkPa2wpHCTUgqCkjG/z1crZ8QovgzGFCB1QuG55FlG94zrErhg72SMr+I2dl5LO56Q01RlQzs9SGmiD//y/brsEfK2ywhsFysgge3UCYK6uUiL7FuwhtNyIs8cPC85NeYLRLC/60hmcjJ0=

263
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 2:49:15pm

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

gidUnJIKhhwgm8m4NUrHyqZifoNeGBqlhhRKFpp+XI/5QDJRWDLPHB/iUIxfs7wT

264
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 2:49:56pm
265
darthstar  May 12, 2017 • 2:53:41pm

Quantum Computing
by McDouggal

Imgur

You’re welcome.

266
darthstar  May 12, 2017 • 2:54:05pm

re: #265 darthstar

Whoa…didn’t expect that to display as an image.

267
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 2:54:55pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I’m gobsmacked that there is a World Summit in Defense of Persecuted Christians

268
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 2:55:16pm

re: #259 Targetpractice

Ryan’s watching his entire legislative docket go down the tubes. Tax “reform,” Trumpcare, “Starve the beast” budgeting, all of that is being subsumed under the growing tumor that is Russiagate. The longer that its allowed to grow, the more damage it does to their agenda, but excising it would mean pretty much abandoning said agenda for another election cycle.

The GOP is like an updated version of Buridan’s Ass, incapable of deciding if keeping Trump or getting rid of him has a better chance of getting tax cuts for the rich.

269
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 2:56:17pm

re: #263 calochortus

34pzeqNoVVnSlaKXxSLfZzgAbXzREsxqpLDLcsZ5+MlTVVLuZGqDImRpN7pmbu48QYDK6f53kRHD5/0DLyMzmwNMsLcF1tVlDnUrB3Nl+inYtI4BUkMPPA==

270
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 2:56:32pm

re: #267 BeachDem

I’m gobsmacked that there is a World Summit in Defense of Persecuted Christians

Worldwide, there’s something to be said for Christian persecution. It is a real thing. Just not in the United States. And we’re certainly not THE MOST persecuted religion.

271
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 2:57:40pm

re: #269 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ma3pe/h+53OYndnXJlKV1j2n0ezSmRR2zT76gBGIZT+BLtS1uHu9yCBz6oSojh9VZ+1s/IqJ526sAF/aT2zp/A56bWlmC55XkaeKAcwH0Cjmf+FEbu240cRyhNz1eMg5pl5VTo1r6ic5zu5vylXGgGP7N/c1th5J6kW3wYfzT+A4KJRFvLbzPs14B6xe7g1WJmbZpCY6hdBiQFm+P9ITAmdLm5CHGO/2oRwGHtNwjpz2cwMXQgk9ABkcXp9QHaYsCOEZhqjl3b9PMi/2Pu2BEKFZYEiCiPI9MlqMY55w0RejtnBBF8cm6QdOak32faFxOAS1fUyBzaEa52zJV+G7TJSv9oTJR7MH

272
Mike Lamb  May 12, 2017 • 2:58:44pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The terrifying portion of that exchange is when Trump waxes philosophic about loyalty to country, patriotism, etc. Thus equating loyalty to Trump and loyalty to country.

273
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 2:59:08pm

re: #271 thedopefishlives

Gb/O+wTUhfsj0P55x04beC3nbIhSMVMPyL7KA82OmaNSguKf9pCI3jmcjNsn4e/GTvu+EFXt+Ls8evEJrhTaczDnRFnIKvppAxEqAdP+s+OKuthxjv6nOk1rH33+LtQSSamrUQqZDS1s7zDNZp3bV0eBhNuEhtHK6kAYF77tRKQgsm3A2j+iEeVtwOM3+qK5h8ERWo301Mfjv0rlEW3+Yg==

274
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:01:32pm

re: #269 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

eHbUH/Osylbvnyew0iE+3bhz9yWcCbQNYpK2xnZ5e5dZwimuebFpJprd1ZYzN8MlaSnxo2pKP0Yt9vx4ry0QIa5Jo+eHSu2L98KvBy3Diag=

275
m0nkeyb0y  May 12, 2017 • 3:01:38pm

re: #270 thedopefishlives

Worldwide, there’s something to be said for Christian persecution. It is a real thing. Just not in the United States. And we’re certainly not THE MOST persecuted religion.

They think political correctness is persecution

276
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:02:31pm

re: #275 m0nkeyb0y

They think political correctness politeness is persecution

Fixed it for you.

277
The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 12, 2017 • 3:03:01pm

re: #258 harlequinade

At this point you have to ask - how deep in is Ryan?

No depth.

The answer is dumber and more depressing: most of the Congress are people who—

1. …will do anything to build a permanent GOP majority, including prop up anything Trump does. Trump is a child-king, and they can get him to sign anything, which means he’s perfect for dismantling shit that anybody else in the executive might balk at. This is certainly the case for Mitch McConnell.

2. …won’t ever do anything that upsets the solid GOP “base” that has become more and more populist and cult-of-personality centered. Fucking them over with policy might work, because the base don’t care beyond a certain level of detail…but they won’t have their golden veal calf snubbed without consequences in the next election.

3. …have been raised on the conspiracism and stab-in-the-back mentality launched by Nixon and made the norm by Reagan and talk radio, and turned into an entire fucking mythos by Rupert Murdoch. To these people, party discipline means that an (R) is a seal of approval, whereas a (D) means an un-person who probably is a Satanic baby-killer. These are the people who have rebuilt Christianity, capitalism, government, and “family” into some kind of nightmare Tingleverse where all social constructs exist to jack them off.

4. …are actually invested in Trump because he’s their wish-fulfillment fantasy: a hideous fucking toad with “money”* and “women”* that he flaunts, who’s shielded from criticism and any contradictory thought by his own braying self-assurance that he is a priori the greatest*.

* That Trump’s lost a lot of money, acquires his women through coercion, and objectively is frequently wrong is part of the wish-fulfillment. These are people who scream at the world for not bowing to their mediocrity and filling the self-aware void in them that’s noticed they ain’t actually good or Good.

5. Some of the above.

6. All of the above.

278
ObserverArt  May 12, 2017 • 3:05:18pm

re: #270 thedopefishlives

Worldwide, there’s something to be said for Christian persecution. It is a real thing. Just not in the United States. And we’re certainly not THE MOST persecuted religion.

Dope, I think you have to look at it like you are not one of them in the same sense.

You may not be persecuted, but when you have the VP of the USA saying stuff like that, he either believes it or he is motivating others to believe it.

It almost seems like it is motivation for a God’s Army kind of thing, or a way to get power for all the good people that fit Pence’s thinking. Does he see another crusade, because Trump has been heard to say he is going to “fix” the Middle East. It’s all not good.

279
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 3:06:10pm

re: #272 Mike Lamb

The terrifying portion of that exchange is when Trump waxes philosophic about loyalty to country, patriotism, etc. Thus equating loyalty to Trump and loyalty to country.

If one could get a straight answer out of Tump, I’m sure it would be clear that Trump sees loyalty to POTUS* Trump and loyalty to the US as being identical.

Someone on social media should float the modest proposal that the service academy oaths be revised accordingly where Trump will see it. Trump would think it the best idea ever for these oaths to become personal oaths of fealty to God-Emperor Trump.

That might be too much for congressional Republicans. Perhaps.

280
Dave In Austin  May 12, 2017 • 3:06:35pm

Any day now…..

281
thedopefishlives  May 12, 2017 • 3:08:38pm

re: #278 ObserverArt

Dope, I think you have to look at it like you are not one of them in the same sense.

You may not be persecuted, but when you have the VP of the USA saying stuff like that, he either believes it or he is motivating others to believe it.

It almost seems like it is motivation for a God’s Army kind of thing, or a way to get power for all the good people that fit Pence’s thinking. Does he see another crusade, because Trump has been heard to say he is going to “fix” the Middle East. It’s all not good.

Yeah, I know. I’m an apostate backslidden librul.

282
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 3:09:19pm

It’s not that Christians are being “persecuted,” it’s that Christian fanatics like Pence are finding their numbers dwindling as their offspring flee the flock and there are fewer converts with each passing year.

283
The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 12, 2017 • 3:11:04pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

It’s not that Christians are being “persecuted,” it’s that Christian fanatics like Pence are finding their numbers dwindling as their offspring flee the flock and there are fewer converts with each passing year.

Also, people existing in ways that they don’t like is “persecution.”

284
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 3:13:38pm

re: #283 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Also, people existing in ways that they don’t like is “persecution.”

To be more blunt, the oppression these US ‘Christians’ complain about is mainly the state not allowing them to burn heretics at the stake as they please. Many of the pilgrims had the exact same beef vs. the English authorities in the colonial era.

285
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 3:13:54pm

re: #283 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Also, people existing in ways that they don’t like is “persecution.”

“I can’t bash gays in public anymore!? Can’t berate women for wearing revealing clothing?! And I can’t rant at people in public for their unholy lifestyles and expect others to support me?! PERSECUTION!!!”

286
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 3:15:10pm

re: #270 thedopefishlives

Worldwide, there’s something to be said for Christian persecution. It is a real thing. Just not in the United States. And we’re certainly not THE MOST persecuted religion.

Well, since the summit was organized by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and it was led by the odious Franklin Graham, I’ll maintain my skepticism about the whole event.
YMMV

287
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 3:15:13pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

Any day now…..

[Embedded content]

Triggers memory of a great band:

The Vertebrats “Any Day Now” from the “Stabs in the Dark” LP

288
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 3:15:23pm

Ooof. A hard read for a Friday afternoon.

(I grew up near that area.)

289
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 3:16:58pm
290
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 3:24:29pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

In a story resembling elements of the Pina Colada song…..

LOL

I had no idea that’s what the piña colada doing was about. None.

291
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 3:24:30pm
292
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 3:27:36pm

re: #288 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ooof. A hard read for a Friday afternoon.

(I grew up near that area.)

[Embedded content]

Yeah, but compare that to the SMUG index of Christian conservative moral superiority: it’s never been higher!

293
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:28:34pm

I’ve been keeping a casual eye on the quarterly grift-a-thons over at FR. They used to wrap up in a couple months, then in the last year or so the time stretched a bit to end in the second week of month 3. They sped up a bit either side of the election. The current one is on Day 42 and is at 42%. Now, they throw in 10-15% which supposedly comes from their automatic contributions near the end, but even allowing for that, they are running well behind their usual numbers at this point, and if their stats are accurate (which there is no possible way of knowing) they’ll need to start the new fundraiser a day or two after finishing this one.
Since they are all Trump, all the time, I wonder if enthusiasm is fading? They’ve recently changed the format a bit so only 20 topics and 20 comments show at one time which makes it harder to read, but also makes it less obvious if there are fewer comments or fewer topics are posted.

294
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 3:28:50pm

Because it was a big fat lie.

Read this salad

295
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 3:30:13pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

No way that doggie did that…look at that face. Innocent as h*ck. 12/10

What does the number mean? I can’t every figure that out. 12/10? And they’re always different.

296
GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2017 • 3:30:39pm

Trumps tax lawyers have deep ties to Russia (we knew this back in January). You just can’t make this shit up anymore. I’m to the point of laughing out loud so that the neighbors can hear me.

abcnews.go.com

297
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 3:30:59pm

re: #295 MsJ

What does the number mean? I can’t every figure that out. 12/10? And they’re always different.

That’s the joke. One of them, anyway.

298
Jebediah, RBG  May 12, 2017 • 3:31:22pm

re: #295 MsJ

Doggos are rated on a scale of one to ten, but since they are all good dogs they usually score higher than ten.

299
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:31:30pm

re: #295 MsJ

What does the number mean? I can’t every figure that out. 12/10? And they’re always different.

Inflated ratings numbers

300
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 3:31:40pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

That’s a classic.

301
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 3:36:21pm
302
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 3:38:05pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So I guess that’s where the bar is set? Not holding my breath.

303
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 3:39:18pm

re: #106 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t responsibly connect to the Internet with XP.

No shit. I practice personal OpSec like a badass. SInce in on the Microsoft ecosystem, it’s Bitlocker and TPM enabled everywhere. All backups are encrypted at AES-256. I have an insanely large diceware-generated router password, and I’ll soon be limiting my wirless network and going back to hard-wire ethernet.

As the former chairman of Intel Andy Grove famously quipped: “Only the paranoid survive.”

304
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 3:40:26pm

re: #267 BeachDem

I’m gobsmacked that there is a World Summit in Defense of Persecuted Christians

Persecuted. Bah.

I find this deeply disturbing.

305
Puss Power  May 12, 2017 • 3:40:39pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So Lizards. It’s Friday. Let’s take a moment to breathe. Any fun plans for the weekend? Hummus to share with the group? Other food?

My runs for the week are done, only have to put together 500 words for the book today (which I will start shortly), waiting on a quote from the electrician for a whole house fan, and then I will craft this afternoon.

I’m thinking stitching, but I could do beading or coloring too. I don’t know.

[Embedded content]

Nothing much for the weekend, since I’m cruising to Alaska at the end of next week.

I’M CRUISING TO ALASKA AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK!

(I’ve been trying to stuff in as much travel as I can manage, since, given the political situation, I’m not sure how easy it’s going to be in the future.)

306
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 3:42:28pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

He doesn’t know the history of Pete Wilson & prop 187.

Turned CA blue.

307
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 3:42:51pm
308
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:43:35pm

re: #305 Puss Power

Nothing much for the weekend, since I’m cruising to Alaska at the end of next week.

I’M CRUISING TO ALASKA AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK!

(I’ve been trying to stuff in as much travel as I can manage, since, given the political situation, I’m not sure how easy it’s going to be in the future.)

Oh you poor thing!
///

309
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 3:44:34pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

xoWnU6Ud3ircSFMebHJyrvO77rcKNTec/n0fYhAIKtH4EFfzRJRJg27140sgTU6YeotvKhwd2ds/my2jtBRJ09bLohdoHb9esSjx4jYfrGBkr5a0JOFqdxXh4J/Bg4QQy+wYdsxUUzWUNNAJoCAz+YFM0Erx2VbnajUvBKpDqd5wuBgJoFu67kmNxP/R57kfI7xfiQs/txdSe0pYQlcA8SkbyAZkQtWvHWrJVIq/6rnAaa6antnUyf11PJi4OyiGYqWV0khufuoUFJFtXiGMM0r0vYU2fujDyrvXJO4yOpH2cnsG5FL9pxkEOT/kINhnX2dZerWmwGbMvVCEnJSzflP0jLMr3umWGx5c+OR5vcATsocVGZmpp+JltWcMR5UuenFXv7lplDnrkw4ziL6mKIjD/4QpUvKd5IKRGlRhcAFoPmsd1DcnV0OmieuxJ5po

310
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 3:44:55pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Meanwhile, a seat in a ruby red Georgia district is a statistical dead-heat for the first time since Moby Dick was a minnow.

311
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 3:45:18pm

re: #298 Jebediah, RBG

re: #299 calochortus

Thanks!!

312
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 3:47:55pm

re: #192 mmmirele

6z1u7gzABZBOWrvA6+sgzXfCXa4p+ZYlhvV2LGLLiGkeh68PaLefRcdmDFwRHdMVQ/e47O7llVxtY6m+jtb7UuA7tTc57vNoRokQNU+rSyM2PEopBDICg5TvFKMu13O+FC2yXD4rosmc/TPF2IVXptr39HdKdVeel0ShYSGfXTLp8UB9aJbtTYe0HDJUgn9tEGZBXh5bup/K7oXXhOzlaArhmvsCGHmW7RKFb2bvDaDS7xr/hM0KxwJtqW5GgY2R8XZGrZ/f78McT/mcfDFZsBrZeBObJ4zvwQcjqclz+cckjlAsv2GfUw/ok6HQkBRUsd4otJM18wHtA9IIEiTL7bcLM+gLVrSl0b5lQ/44yvhySl+v1RguuC3UztBPjphxv/qkTM0H8hFltTtDOkinNEruDFcjV8cX5fLJsyiL5bvTSxesmZqfrU0HY2NHGo+mlNL7xXi4hnBT1shvcO+RBQ==

313
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 3:54:11pm
314
calochortus  May 12, 2017 • 3:56:10pm

BBL

315
Puss Power  May 12, 2017 • 3:56:56pm

re: #308 calochortus

Oh you poor thing!
///

And another reason to pity me — I signed on so late (because cost) that I had to take a guarantee rather than picking a cabin. Just saw the assignment, and apparently they’re so full that they had to give me the next category up — a cabin that would cost at least $1000 more than what I paid for.

My life is so miserable….

316
m0nkeyb0y  May 12, 2017 • 4:02:42pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

re: #282 Targetpractice

It’s not that Christians are being “persecuted,” it’s that Christian fanatics like Pence are finding their numbers dwindling as their offspring flee the flock and there are fewer converts with each passing year.

I’ve spent my adult life coming to grips with how good people such as my parents (Southern Baptists) could reconcile the clear teachings in the Sermon on the Mount with the GOP agenda.
My inital teenage confusion soon turned to anger, which eventually mellowed to pity (old story, I know).
LGF has educated me (thank you all) on the decades of political poison that brought them to their riduculous support of such an obvious, clumsy, amoral NY liberal con man.

I now realize they are simply continuing the long, sad tradition of our right-wing economic elites manipulating lower-classes’ fears and prejudices to distract from their true agendas, malfeasance, and failures, as well as Democrats’ successes.
I hold the GOP and its theocrats (Pence appears genuine to me) directly responsible for pushing my father to such an authoritarian extreme that, in the end, he could not even get along with my long-suffering mother and sister who remain committed to their faith.
I am disgusted and hope that their extremist overreach under Trump will be corralled by democratic institutions and opposition, and hasten the secularization and rationalization of the United States’ politics.

317
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 4:07:04pm
318
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 4:08:13pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

319
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 4:09:15pm

re: #277 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

No depth.

The answer is dumber and more depressing: most of the Congress are people who—

2. …won’t ever do anything that upsets the solid GOP “base” that has become more and more populist and cult-of-personality centered. Fucking them over with policy might work, because the base don’t care beyond a certain level of detail…but they won’t have their golden veal calf snubbed without consequences in the next election.

4. …are actually invested in Trump because he’s their wish-fulfillment fantasy: a hideous fucking toad with “money”* and “women”* that he flaunts, who’s shielded from criticism and any contradictory thought by his own braying self-assurance that he is a priori the greatest*.

Also — the pictures of those surrounding Trump and leading Republicans show they are almost all white males. That’s what the supporters (both men and women) want: a world of white men, preferably Christian, running everything — hiring and firing at will without having to comply with any non-discrimination rules. In their ideal world, employment ads would be like those in the 1950’s even in Chicago: specifying the race, age, and gender of applicants. They learned in 2012 that they lost because of minorities and women — and their new order represents the effort to make sure that minorities and women are increasingly marginalized.

320
FormerDirtDart  May 12, 2017 • 4:13:58pm
321
Scottish Dragon  May 12, 2017 • 4:16:07pm
322
Kragar  May 12, 2017 • 4:17:24pm
323
FormerDirtDart  May 12, 2017 • 4:18:05pm

“… The USDA’s research section studies everything from climate change to nutrition. Under the 2008 Farm Bill, its leader is supposed to serve as the agency’s “chief scientist” and be chosen “from among distinguished scientists with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education, and economics.

But Sam Clovis - who, according to sources with knowledge of the appointment and members of the agriculture trade press, is President Trump’s pick to oversee the section — appears to have no such credentials.

Clovis has never taken a graduate course in science and is openly skeptical of climate change. While he has a doctorate in public administration and was a tenured professor of business and public policy at Morningside College for 10 years, he has published almost no academic work.

Clovis is better known for hosting a conservative talk radio show in his native Iowa and, after mounting an unsuccessful run for Senate in 2014, becoming a fiery pro-Trump advocate on television. …”

324
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 4:25:20pm

Too bad he couldn’t make Clovis postmaster of some podunk town like in the good old days.

“My mom told me she sent me a box of brownies, but they never showed up!”

Postmaster Clovis: “I have no idea what you’re talking about…”

325
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 4:26:07pm

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

Throwing it in our faces every single day.

326
Timothy Watson  May 12, 2017 • 4:27:29pm

When an Evil Genius opens up!

My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy - the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really.

327
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 4:30:08pm

And also, too: as a New Hampshire person now, I’m disappointed that he hasn’t found positions for “Hillary should be executed” Al Baldasaro and “I’ve never been in politics before” liar and wife of Bundy-supporter Jerry DeLemus, Sue DeLemus.

328
Skip Intro  May 12, 2017 • 4:36:14pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, he’s a doctor, the medical kind.

329
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 4:37:23pm

re: #328 Skip Intro

BTW, he’s a doctor, the medical kind.

So is Tom Price.

330
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 4:38:31pm

re: #326 Timothy Watson

I’ve been on a Claude Chabrol jag this year and your story sounds like the plots of many of his films. ^▽^

(In my day, jag meant going on a tear about something one finds fascinating. Looking it up on the ‘tubes, I see it means something totally different these days.)

331
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 4:40:56pm

re: #328 Skip Intro

BTW, he’s a doctor, the medical kind.

I saw that…

332
Charles Johnson  May 12, 2017 • 4:42:17pm
333
goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2017 • 4:43:19pm
334
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 4:43:34pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

Senior Congressional Republicans are engaging in treachery and sedition.

335
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 4:45:44pm

re: #333 goddamnedfrank

James Woods not only sounds like Roger Stone, he looks just like him.

A shame really. He was a darn good actor once upon a time in America; for instance, in the aforementioned pun (in which my late friend Fr. Roger Fawcett had a wonderful comedic turn as a drunk in Fat Moe’s Bar — Roger had some great stories about hanging out with maestro Sergio Leone), Videodrome and the sadly overlooked 1985 Canadian film Joshua Then and Now.

336
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 4:45:46pm

I just got free tickets to some playoff sportspuck this week.

Granted, it’s AHL and not NHL but I will take what I can get.

337
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 4:46:34pm

re: #333 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Woods is looking more like SMOTI every day.

338
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 4:47:07pm

Anyone know of the last 2?

339
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 4:47:19pm

re: #337 BeachDem

Woods is looking more like SMOTI every day.

Yeah, I had a double-take, too.

340
Amory Blaine  May 12, 2017 • 4:48:30pm

re: #336 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My brother is pushing me to buy tickets for The Trailer Park Boys this summer. I may cave in.

341
plansbandc  May 12, 2017 • 4:49:03pm

re: #337 BeachDem

Not optimal. SMOTI is not a looker.

342
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 4:49:50pm

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Theo Keith ✔ @TheoKeith
.@SpeakerRyan says “for a lot of reasons” he’s doing telephone town halls instead of in person town halls.
3:48 PM - 12 May 2017

Most of my work meetings are phone meetings because the participants are in multiple locations. If someone is managing the meeting properly, they can be effective BUT that is only because everyone can voice their ideas. No one is trying to suppress views or prevent opponents from realizing that they are in the majority.

Ryan just wants to silence any who disagree with him and present the illusion of support. Like almost all Republicans today, he is a coward and cannot refute those who have facts to oppose his views.

343
Amory Blaine  May 12, 2017 • 4:50:57pm

Where the hell has CCJ been? Has he totally washed out yet?

344
wrenchwench  May 12, 2017 • 4:51:47pm
345
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2017 • 4:57:56pm

re: #343 Amory Blaine

Where the hell has CCJ been? Has he totally washed out yet?

Last I heard he rarely posts on GotNews and his security certificate expired on Wesearchr

346
Targetpractice  May 12, 2017 • 4:58:00pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

Anyone know of the last 2?

[Embedded content]

I don’t know much about Garcia, but Fisher served during the Dubya administration and her last time before Congress was back in March, speaking on behalf of her friend Gorsuch in support of his SCOTUS nomination.

347
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 4:58:12pm
348
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 4:58:22pm

re: #341 plansbandc

Not optimal. SMOTI is not a looker.

Nor is Woods.

349
freetoken  May 12, 2017 • 5:00:53pm

Uh oh… a guest shows up to check out the ROV:

350
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:00:55pm

My girl is home from her first year at college! Happy Friday, lizards!

351
FormerDirtDart  May 12, 2017 • 5:03:05pm
352
Skip Intro  May 12, 2017 • 5:05:02pm

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

Last I heard he rarely posts on GotNews and his security certificate expired on Wesearchr

He got his certificate back.

353
BeachDem  May 12, 2017 • 5:07:33pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

Anyone know of the last 2?

[Embedded content]

These are the 11 Reuters says are being considered, with a brief description of each.

rawstory.com

354
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 5:13:06pm

New LGF page: Little Green Footballs News Network PSA: Patch Your Systems NOW

(updated with BBC News article)

355
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 5:14:28pm

Apropos of nothing, I’m eating the best pizza I’ve ever baked, using the last of a bag of yeast that’s been in my fridge for at least ten years. Crazy!

356
ipsos  May 12, 2017 • 5:15:16pm

If Cornyn were to get the FBI job, the mind boggles to think of how bad a replacement Abbott might name to the Senate. And we’d be stuck with that replacement until 2018, right?

357
nines09  May 12, 2017 • 5:16:45pm

Go to this link. Type in your name and zip. If you come up, go to the bottom of the page and click “privacy”. You can request to delete your info. JFC. Stalker Central.
True People Search

358
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:17:02pm

re: #355 De Kolta Chair

Does it taste like sour dough?

359
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2017 • 5:20:24pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Spicy is a snowflake:

[Embedded content]

U2 - Out Of Control (Belfast 1981)

360
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 5:21:02pm

re: #357 nines09

Go to this link. Type in your name and zip. If you come up, go to the bottom of the page and click “privacy”. You can request to delete your info. JFC. Stalker Central.
True People Search

Jesus Christ. Thanks.

361
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 5:23:28pm

re: #350 prairiefire

My girl is home from her first year at college! Happy Friday, lizards!

Awwwww. Prairiefire’s house is happy!

362
freetoken  May 12, 2017 • 5:25:12pm

re: #354 Eric The Fruit Bat

New LGF page: Little Green Footballs News Network PSA: Patch Your Systems NOW

URL needs fix.

363
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 5:25:54pm

re: #358 prairiefire

Does it taste like sour dough?

Now that you mention, yes. I’ve got two books about sourdough on the shelf, but have always been intimidated by the process. (Truth is, I’m a lazy cuss.) You?

364
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 5:26:14pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

Are there really people who can’t slice open an avocado without needing stitches? They should be forbidden from wielding sharp implements.

365
freetoken  May 12, 2017 • 5:27:18pm
366
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 5:28:13pm

cool stuff:

Thanks, science!

367
(Bert the Turtle)  May 12, 2017 • 5:28:26pm

re: #350 prairiefire

My girl is home from her first year at college! Happy Friday, lizards!

We picked up Jr. from Madison yesterday. Enjoy!

368
Cheechako  May 12, 2017 • 5:28:53pm

re: #315 Puss Power

And another reason to pity me — I signed on so late (because cost) that I had to take a guarantee rather than picking a cabin. Just saw the assignment, and apparently they’re so full that they had to give me the next category up — a cabin that would cost at least $1000 more than what I paid for.

My life is so miserable….

Always bring rain gear…it’s been a wet spring. Also been on the cool side. Yesterday was the second day this year to get into the 60’s. Normally this time of May is the best season to visit SE Alaska. Also, don’t buy tours on the ship. Plenty of dockside vendors offer the same tour but at a lessor cost. Next piece of advice…avoid the dockside jewelry stores. They’re all owned by the cruise ship companies and have huuuge mark-ups.

369
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 5:29:14pm

re: #360 MsJ

OQuv4vDvE/N+yGJe18AioyaT0wi/6lU1/JI/lRX1/SN+RYfbJCt2GHU9Rp0w+1VMutuyLs2S5v4=

370
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:29:22pm

re: #360 MsJ

Good lordre: #357 nines09

Thank you!

371
GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2017 • 5:30:46pm

re: #1 Dr. Matt

Oh how I wish a reporter would stand up and look Sean in his beady little eyes and say: “Mr. Spicer, do you know what’s truly offensive? You standing up there at the podium and lying to us and the American people every fucking day.”

372
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:30:49pm

re: #367 (alpuz)

You as well! It’s delicious and scrumptious all at the same time.

373
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 5:31:55pm

re: #362 freetoken

Fixed.

374
EPR-radar  May 12, 2017 • 5:32:53pm

re: #371 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh how I wish a reporter would stand up and look Sean in his beady little eyes and say: “Mr. Spicer, do you know what’s truly offensive? You standing up there at the podium and lying to us and the American people every fucking day.”

Another item for the wish list is this — every news article about Trump’s lies to include ‘liar’ or equivalent in the headline with reference to Trump.

375
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 5:34:30pm

re: #357 nines09

txOjjZotuHqtSISWYdTN4PEgQSKGVU5HOUBWC9YW7F7mQYpHIqGG+SCQLHJDgr5SvXXlj51Vffy3q7ZR5Kc5Ur2CH8Otky6QXBsQHfwBPnSoXVhSXfiR9HU//K6r/1uwQhPLXLCBc+ElIqLkZ3ELmYzT3W5VkJMGZKxHCG2Gke4jHJUNJKZVlMmxnruFzyRdhFbCxmni8uI=

376
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2017 • 5:38:41pm

re: #357 nines09

Go to this link. Type in your name and zip. If you come up, go to the bottom of the page and click “privacy”. You can request to delete your info. JFC. Stalker Central.
True People Search

That was entertaining — it had wrong email address and listed unknown people as associates

377
Teukka  May 12, 2017 • 5:39:04pm

I’m just gonna put this out there, nickname for Mr. Clownface von F*ckstick:
Kim Don Yuuge

378
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:39:44pm

re: #377 Teukka

I like it.

379
nines09  May 12, 2017 • 5:40:28pm

re: #375 Eric The Fruit Bat

ap7j2ddeMYMogQftal0i1r+yXU7+Si4FqYaRtF7fI4igWoJVLK55pXLx5Si37enM6Tb01PsFic2h9L00P9Tb+5d18vkQCbtV

380
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 5:42:10pm

re: #350 prairiefire

My girl is home from her first year at college! Happy Friday, lizards!

Goes by fast, doesn’t it?

Don’t have any of my own, but a lot of my friends do. I call them “test subjects.” One of my favorites graduated from Bennington last year (doomed to a life of basket weaving and zen meditation, I’m quite sure), and she always remembers me telling her when she was three, “Beer good, water bad.” She’s a great kid.

381
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 5:44:03pm

Six Part Series on trump by the LA Times editorial board. Read it. Seriously.

Our Dishonest President

latimes.com

382
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 5:45:27pm

re: #359 Barefoot Grin

Nice crowd surf then fall onto stage by Bono.

383
prairiefire  May 12, 2017 • 5:45:40pm

re: #363 De Kolta Chair

I’m not a baker, but I’ve been fascinated at how sourdough “starters” can be over 70 years old.

384
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 12, 2017 • 5:47:50pm
385
MsJ  May 12, 2017 • 5:48:26pm

re: #375 Eric The Fruit Bat

w8W1ztl3X+kdwJmF5LIZmgylfTIAOmnEJHrlfvskeQen33dQnN3uxG8CezbZy2ArpibQ07U7Lq/cQetA955GgffIi9SuDgda+rhYnAtXskJOt9aSQrFRzVPBAb4R9o5isfX8pkONXcorpHwdiOEy2wO69Nm3k5AxtzjDwCk/IosbsWV562TF56V2yEQ0RJXjvtnsphNZx9q/GulJ7mkApNNRXa7LjyJZ5aSU+/QbuDzaZNfMuD4fJGYCQUc6fQLNmjjh+tTKot664ddet0SBWTQKhRmf9z7p5yTjMbPR2fGUCbqfg4/F0GpN6kuFt0TsTgAjamYPa1vdXqeBDqoBHbj+rJZdtYHn5A5/RGqJtoM27g1z6MTfFSqQYZzGqwHfVCOvuyzN7P8dqQatIZ6M2N4wI0j6+kD4

386
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 5:48:51pm
387
Cheechako  May 12, 2017 • 5:49:40pm

re: #383 prairiefire

I’m not a baker, but I’ve been fascinated at how sourdough “starters” can be over 70 years old.

Here ‘ya go:

Sourdough

388
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 5:50:50pm

re: #384 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Cue the Q:

R C Cola and a Moon Pie

389
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 5:53:57pm
390
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2017 • 5:58:28pm
391
De Kolta Chair  May 12, 2017 • 6:02:04pm

re: #359 Barefoot Grin

Many moons ago, my buddy Terry, an American with dual citizenship, lived on the dole in Ireland for a couple of years living the artist life, and used to see U2 playing for spare change on street corners in Dublin.

392
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 6:02:30pm

re: #385 MsJ

[Embedded content]

ye

4uXAZ6y1tsi2Eyngs3CkDBMGlAjnRGkLUKrKPr8m6OVC7cv+zlMdWPvP51aBG5AW

393
Stanley Sea  May 12, 2017 • 6:03:18pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Perfect timing for his religious tour.

394
TedStriker  May 12, 2017 • 6:15:05pm

re: #343 Amory Blaine

Where the hell has CCJ been? Has he totally washed out yet?

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

Last I heard he rarely posts on GotNews and his security certificate expired on Wesearchr

SImply put, he’s getting out-putzed by the Asshole-In-Chief.

395
The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)  May 12, 2017 • 6:24:03pm

re: #385 MsJ

PL+Qtwd9FHlQXgnhLHHMLFNErU1aU+VFbiSdsvesQsOZA0f8q1OzBL+9UAbOs0twtqMS0loqkyCqcFslR+tLq/t5nqgHW8yJgFtGSEaxZYtyXJnpAI4WOmm/dcx5dteyOW+YBr+cLGMz0HARNR0w6kN0geVvNqAuqKAQA/iKslQvUlRdfeInmu0s4a9q/lH4

396
Puss Power  May 12, 2017 • 6:40:39pm

re: #357 nines09

Go to this link. Type in your name and zip. If you come up, go to the bottom of the page and click “privacy”. You can request to delete your info. JFC. Stalker Central.
True People Search

Thanks — Last time I checked, I wasn’t there. This time, I was.

397
CleverToad  May 12, 2017 • 7:26:13pm

re: #357 nines09

Go to this link. Type in your name and zip. If you come up, go to the bottom of the page and click “privacy”. You can request to delete your info. JFC. Stalker Central.
True People Search

And then they put you back on again… I requested removal a few months ago, but lo and behold, there I am tonight.

398
retired cynic  May 12, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I’m late, but it looks like someone spilled his show-black, and dove in head-first.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
3 weeks ago
Views: 363 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1