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Kragar  Jun 6, 2017 • 9:49:32pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 6, 2017 • 9:49:36pm

Ok, just got CL’ed in the last thread after resizing all my my pictures on my iPad and all. So, reposting

And, now for a tasty intermission and comparison between proper blue crabs and the crab from the wrong coast, the dungeness. I’m in San Fransisco for a probiotic conference (Probiota 2017) and I was down exploring the various piers. Sea Lions!!! Alcatraz!!! Dinner!!!

Dungeness good. Blue crab sweeter and better. Dearth would need to feed me some fresh caught one that he raves about for me to consider a switch in allegiance from Chesapeake Bay crab to something else.

Ed-Stupid spletcheck

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2017 • 9:50:15pm

180-minute four chord song!

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Joe Bacon  Jun 6, 2017 • 9:54:41pm

re: #2 Colère Tueur de Lapin

My favorite San Francisco seafood place was A Sabella’s. Best crab dishes ever. Broke my heart when they closed. Second place for me is Alioto’s.

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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:01:16pm

Carried over from the last thread, as I seem to excel in killing threads:

re: #116 Targetpractice

We already know Handel’s full of shit, because Republicans are always cool with raising taxes…if you’re not rich.

But that “no new taxes” is a good bumper sticker catch phrase. “She’s right I pay too much in taxes already! She understands me!”

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allegro  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:01:26pm

I have no more Kleenex for a sad song. Just watched A Dog’s Purpose. Still sniffling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:02:52pm

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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:03:56pm
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BigPapa  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:05:59pm

This song has been aging well and getting me sappy of late:

Nine Inch Nails - Something I can never have (still)

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:09:36pm
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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:10:38pm

Poking around Twitter at random can yield some funny nuggets:

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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:17:50pm

Today’s guinea pig for CL:

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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:20:15pm

I’m going to duck out for a while. Catch y’all later.

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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:31:47pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2017 • 10:52:17pm
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freetoken  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:02:04pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

Too many jalapenos in the cheese dip?

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TedStriker  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:03:01pm

re: #16 freetoken

Too many jalapenos in the cheese dip?

Maybe Sessions got struck by lightning?

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:07:27pm

So I’m spending my night going page by page through old newspapers online (genealogy type of research)… and I wonder to myself how many fellow Americans actually look at what their ancestors wrote and left way back when?

Why do people just consume whatever Fox (or for that matter any TV outlet) tells them about the past?

There are great no-charge-to-you resources out there for access to things like old newspapers.

Furthermore, in the English speaking world there has been since the advent of modern printing quite a large compilation of material done by historians (of varying degrees of capability.) Our libraries are full of documentation and analysis done over a century of looking at America and the rest of the world.

So what accounts for all the stupid stuff on Facebook and Twitter?

I used to think it was because a lot of people were just downright dull of mind.

Now I think it has more to do with laziness.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:07:29pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

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I’d honestly be surprised if the DOJ wasn’t melting down at this point. I mean:

-Roughly 8 hours until Rosenstein’s testimony, Trump has to be shitting bricks already.
-Coats also testifies tomorrow, will confirm that Trump asked him to intervene with Comey and that he refused.
-32 hours until Comey testifies.
-Qatar vs GCC feud isn’t over, and Trump made it MUCH worse with his ridiculous reckless tweets.
-Then we learned FBI investigators believe Russian hacking and planting stories on Qatari news servers started the feud. So Trump played into yet another Russian plot, possibly endangering American soldiers stationed in Qatar.
-Add to that all of Trump’s tweets that horribly undermined the DOJ court arguments defending the Travel Ban EO.

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Kragar  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:22:01pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:23:12pm

re: #18 freetoken

Original research is hard.

I’ve posted my family history on line. It took years of research. Every once in a while I get a query from someone who has found it, and just copy-pasted the whole thing into their own family history, without bothering to check if their ancestor is the same as my ancestor. Sometimes, they are just two unrelated people who happened to have the same name.

It’s how you get people who swear they are descended from Charlemagne or Alexander the Great. Right. Good luck tracing that paper trail.

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Anymouse  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:30:30pm

I’m back. My wife wanted to watch the MST3K treatment of the driving safety film from the Fifties by Union Pacific Railroad that both of us were subjected to, “Last Clear Chance” (twenty minutes).

MST3K - Last Clear Chance

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:42:21pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

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um… literally or metaphorically?

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Scout  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:42:24pm

re: #22 Anymouse

I’m back. My wife wanted to watch the MST3K treatment of the driving safety film from the Fifties by Union Pacific Railroad that both of us were subjected to, “Last Clear Chance” (twenty minutes).

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Video

A small bit of useless trivia: The guy who plays the highway patrolman would go on to play police officers in two separate episodes of “Star Trek The Next Generation.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:44:54pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:46:10pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:47:00pm
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freetoken  Jun 6, 2017 • 11:50:46pm

re: #21 wheat-dogg

Genealogy is the most common example of where simply copying what someone else claims can lead one astray.

But in general, about what we think of as “the past”, there is nothing that can replace (1) original sources, and (2) critical analysis of those sources.

Reading 19th century American newspapers, the ubiquity of bigotry is quite apparent.

Another easy observation is that the over-arching quackery that filled newspapers with adverts disappeared once the gov’t began regulating medicine.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:01:14am

How bored am I? I’m watching MST3K’s treatment of Space Mutiny.

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Scout  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:04:08am

re: #29 Targetpractice

How bored am I? I’m watching MST3K’s treatment of Space Mutiny.

“Move! Move! Move!”
—Blast HardCheese

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:04:36am

re: #29 Targetpractice

How bored am I? I’m watching MST3K’s treatment of Space Mutiny.

LOL I’ve seen that one. The first minute threw me because of their shameless use of Battlestar Galactica original series footage.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:12:04am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

LOL I’ve seen that one. The first minute threw me because of their shameless use of Battlestar Galactica original series footage.

“Special effects by Industrial Light and Morons.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:19:47am

re: #32 Targetpractice

“Special effects by Industrial Light and Morons.”

“Hold on! We’ll be reaching speeds of 3!”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:21:20am

re: #29 Targetpractice

Starring Sting, Debby Reynolds, and God

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:21:57am

re: #34 Kragar

Starring Sting, Debby Reynolds, and God

“The death of Rick Springfield.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:24:58am

re: #35 Targetpractice

“The death of Rick Springfield.”

“They woke up the Oakridge Boys!”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:27:17am

re: #36 Kragar

“They woke up the Oakridge Boys!”

“And his eyes open…”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:27:53am

re: #37 Targetpractice

“I’m sitting in something wet.”

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:29:00am

re: #28 freetoken

Genealogy is the most common example of where simply copying what someone else claims can lead one astray.

But in general, about what we think of as “the past”, there is nothing that can replace (1) original sources, and (2) critical analysis of those sources.

Reading 19th century American newspapers, the ubiquity of bigotry is quite apparent.

Another easy observation is that the over-arching quackery that filled newspapers with adverts disappeared once the gov’t began regulating medicine.

Now the quackery is on YouTube and Internet ads: “This one weird trick will cure you of XXXX.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:29:25am

re: #38 Kragar

“I’m sitting in something wet.”

“And our hero boldly roasts the disabled guy.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:29:26am

When my youngest and I are messing around, we do the “Hello and Thank You” bit. Drives my wife nuts.

HelloandThankyou.wmv

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:31:18am

re: #40 Targetpractice

“And our hero boldly roasts the disabled guy.”

“Railing Kill!”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:46:05am

re: #42 Kragar

“Railing Kill!”

“Finally, Christmas comes to Santa.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:54:40am

re: #43 Targetpractice

“Finally, Christmas comes to Santa.”

“There’s a ferret cage by the door if you need one.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:55:46am

re: #44 Kragar

“There’s a ferret cage by the door if you need one.”

“So, uh, we’ve got some Benedictine monks in the floorboards, unfortunately. We have set some traps with fresh bread and brandy, though.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:59:53am

re: #45 Targetpractice

“You’re too stupid to know anything about dentistry.”

Follow up by

“The laser that sounds like a drill.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:00:38am

re: #46 Kragar

“You’re too stupid to know anything about dentistry.”

Follow up by

“The laser that sounds like a drill.”

“It’s a Wicca tupperware party.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:01:40am

re: #47 Targetpractice

“It’s a Wicca tupperware party.”

“Look alive everyone… Oh sorry Susan.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:02:40am

re: #48 Kragar

“Look alive everyone… Oh sorry Susan.”

“You know, Captain…”
“I have a whole colony of people living in my beard.”

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:03:57am

re: #24 Scout

A small bit of useless trivia: The guy who plays the highway patrolman would go on to play police officers in two separate episodes of “Star Trek The Next Generation.”

Interesting career path that guy had.

We just watched another MST3K treatment, “The Beginning of the End” where giant radioactive locusts destroy an Illinois farming community due to an Agriculture Department experiment gone bad. In rapid succession other towns in Illinois are destroyed (including Peoria where the grasshoppers played really well apparently) on the way to Chicago.

The Army holds the last line of defence after the Illinois National Guard is wiped out. The plan is to nuke Chicago, but the plucky scientist whose experiments accidentally created the giant locusts comes up with a plan to attract them into Lake Michigan to drown.

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Scout  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:04:35am

re: #49 Targetpractice

She’s got an armadillo down her trousers.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:11:53am

re: #51 Scout

She’s got an armadillo down her trousers.

“We need both horsepowers on this thing.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:14:28am

re: #52 Targetpractice

“We need both horsepowers on this thing.”

“You can get another 2mph if you drop the waxing compound.”

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:14:56am

re: #29 Targetpractice

How bored am I? I’m watching MST3K’s treatment of Space Mutiny.

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

LOL I’ve seen that one. The first minute threw me because of their shameless use of Battlestar Galactica original series footage.

re: #32 Targetpractice

“Special effects by Industrial Light and Morons.”

Hulu does not have it available, even on their premium service. It is available from Hulu via YouTube for $2.99, which I ain’t paying for since we already pay for Hulu’s premium service.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:16:25am

re: #53 Kragar

“You can get another 2mph if you drop the waxing compound.”

“We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese.”

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:20:14am

re: #54 Anymouse

Or you could click here…

MST3K ~ S08E20 - Space Mutiny

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:20:42am

Televangelist Assholes Pretty Sure Manchester and London Asking for It Like Common Godless Sluts (with a headline like that, it can only be Wonkette, with over three thousand comments):

More at the link:

It’s a truism that when something terrible happens, be it terrorism or a natural disaster, certain wingnut Christians will declare it to be an act of judgment by a loving God, as a comeuppance for some sin or another. Hurricane Katrina? Gays. Those awful tornados in Joplin, Missouri, a few years back? Gays and abortion and porno. Hurricane Matthew? Totally the fault of Orlando and Savannah, which are known sanctuary cities for gays. Haiti earthquake? God’s judgment against voodoo doers who do voodoo. 9/11? Gay abortion pagan feminists. Family Research Council hate group leader Tony Perkins losing his Louisiana house in terrible floods? Totally random. (How’d that one get in there? Our bad.)

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:36:45am
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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:40:11am

re: #58 Kragar

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Well, shit.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:43:29am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:44:07am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

Well, shit.

We’re looking at a possible intra-Muslim-nation war, and the USA has an idiot as its chief exec.

Fun times.
/

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:44:19am

re: #58 Kragar

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I’m seeing unconfirmed reports that one of the attackers on the Iranian Parliament building has detonated a suicide bomb. He was apparently on the fourth floor of the building.

The Iranian Parliament building:

Image: baharestan.jpg

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:45:29am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

We’re looking at a possible intra-Muslim-nation war, and the USA has an idiot as its chief exec.

Fun times.
/

Yep. The worst possible person in the worst possible place at the worst possible time. Brace yourselves, everyone - possible F5 shitnado coming.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:46:25am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Could be the Kurds.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:48:11am
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:54:19am

re: #66 Kragar

More pluses:

a) Qatar is one of the biggest oil producers in the world. If their oil is taken off the market, prices go up.

b) That makes the Keystone XL Pipeline viable again, with only Nebraska standing against its construction.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:57:03am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:57:41am

re: #65 Kragar

Could be the Kurds.

No whey

{sorry}

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:59:16am

re: #67 Anymouse

There is a coalition of ranchers, farmers, liberals, environmentalists, sportsmen, and hunters that are holding up the Keystone XL pipeline project.

Trump’s approval of a route across the US border is meaningless as long as no route is approved across Nebraska.

So now we see: Do liberals from outside the state actually support us here, or is this a fight we have to take on alone for the whole nation?

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:03:36am

Debate over the atheism group on Yahoo I manage over the best way to answer the question “Have you been saved?” (in reference to Christianity) drew the answer I’m going to use from now on:

No, I know how to swim.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:13:34am

Trolling the ESLCafé employment listings, and I come across this one:

Principal Needed in Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA

It seems they need a bilingual principal for the Zarrow International Primary School. I suppose advertising for free on an ESL teacher site makes sense, but it’s unusual.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:17:04am

re: #72 wheat-dogg

Trolling the ESLCafé employment listings, and I come across this one:

Principal Needed in Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA

It seems they need a bilingual principal for the Zarrow International Primary School. I suppose advertising for free on an ESL teacher site makes sense, but it’s unusual.

Don’t do it! My wife and I escaped Oklahoma when Mary Fallin was elected; she took a 60% loss on her house she wanted out of there so bad.

We need bilingual teachers and principals in Nebraska. Rural school districts that operate one-room schoolhouses here ofttimes offer an attached house for the teacher to live in.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:17:24am

re: #70 Anymouse

There is a coalition of ranchers, farmers, liberals, environmentalists, sportsmen, and hunters that are holding up the Keystone XL pipeline project.

Trump’s approval of a route across the US border is meaningless as long as no route is approved across Nebraska.

So now we see: Do liberals from outside the state actually support us here, or is this a fight we have to take on alone for the whole nation?

Uh, what?
Environmental groups sue Trump administration for approving Keystone pipeline

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:18:46am

Me mowing my lawn (actually I’m much better wielding a scythe than this guy, so maybe I should take over his job):

Image: 94efbea404172e80c6bc3071a0849a03cf157aa554aa4c238cfb3d55c5be6600.gif

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:22:42am

re: #74 Timothy Watson

Uh, what?
Environmental groups sue Trump administration for approving Keystone pipeline

Kewl. Glad to see they joined the fight a couple years after we took it on. We’ll take the help.

That said, I doubt they can win their fight; it is the President who approves such things. President Obama held back his approval whist we were going here through our state supreme court - Bold Nebraska (the coalition I mentioned above) got very little out of state help fighting off the GOP here violating the state constitution. (The project was eventually rejected by the state supreme court for constitutional violations.)

The immediate result of that was Dave Domina (the chief lawyer for Bold Nebraska) ran for the Senate against Ben Sasse (Domina lost), and Jane Kleeb became the leader of the state Democratic Party.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:27:43am

re: #73 Anymouse

Don’t do it! My wife and I escaped Oklahoma when Mary Fallin was elected; she took a 60% loss on her house she wanted out of there so bad.

We need bilingual teachers and principals in Nebraska. Rural school districts that operate one-room schoolhouses here ofttimes offer an attached house for the teacher to live in.

No worries there. I’ve been to Stillwater, OK, and I think that will be my last encounter with that state.

As for Nebraska, honestly, it’s not high on my places to teach. I am not a certified teacher, so to teach in a US public school I would have to take those certification courses to get my teaching license. Private schools, where I once taught, don’t require state certs, so I never bothered getting mine. If I had finished my MA in Teaching program, I would have, but by that time I was already employed F/T, newly married with a baby on the way, and school just kinda got left behind.

The credits I lacked? “Student teaching” — though I was already employed as a teacher! At the time (mid-80s) Kentucky had not made provisions for MAT candidates who were already teaching. A few years after my program lapsed, the rules were changed to include a teaching practicum, which required a certified teacher as an observer and hella paperwork for me. Seemed more trouble than it was worth.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:28:02am

The price of freedom:

fox13memphis.com

A woman was shot and killed by her boyfriend “accidentally” (there is no such thing as a gun accident) only hours after her parents gave him a gun for a present.

He was trying to put the gun away.

He will not be charged, because negligent handling of a gun resulting in death is apparently not a crime in Tennessee.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:30:48am

re: #77 wheat-dogg

Avg. Elementary Teacher Salary: $50,710
Avg. Secondary Teacher Salary: $51,320
Vacation Weeks Per Year: 15

Rural school districts are hurting for teachers (mine included). My brother-in-law in Texas is looking to relocate here when he is vested in his Texas teacher’s retirement to continue here (where it is a buttload cheaper to live).

certificationmap.com
(Becoming a teacher in Nebraska)

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:32:13am
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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:33:06am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:34:28am

re: #79 Anymouse

Rural school districts are hurting for teachers (mine included). My brother-in-law in Texas is looking to relocate here when he is vested in his Texas teacher’s retirement to continue here (where it is a buttload cheaper to live).

certificationmap.com
(Becoming a teacher in Nebraska)

Not bad pay, considering.

The other thing is that I am pretty much over teaching high school, but a one-room schoolhouse would be quite a different experience.

Yet another idea to consider.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:35:36am

Iran, ISIS, Trump won’t be able to tell the difference.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:37:58am

re: #83 Targetpractice

Iran, ISIS, Trump won’t be able to tell the difference.

Iowa, Idaho, Indiana, India — they all look alike!

BBL. Time to meet some folks for dinner.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:38:44am

I gotta listen again later to slow down that list of “saddest” themes. I think I caught “drunk at the custody hearing,” which is something I’ve actually read about more than once, sad to say.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:40:09am

re: #82 wheat-dogg

Not bad pay, considering.

The other thing is that I am pretty much over teaching high school, but a one-room schoolhouse would be quite a different experience.

Yet another idea to consider.

The Valentine Consolidated School District in Cherry County (if you look at a political map of Nebraska, it is the gigantic county in the north - bonus, not far from me) is the school district that operates one room schools on a regular basis. (They have several schools out in the county they open when there are children in the area. The only incorporated town in Cherry County, Valentine, has a bit over 1,100 people - we first considered buying a house there before we bought the one we live in).

valentinecommunityschools.org

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Apocalypse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:41:24am

re: #75 Anymouse

How tall is the grass?

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:43:28am

Ack. The second wasp in two days in my parlour.

Continuing plugging teaching in my state:

Nebraska will accept some teaching credentials from all but the following states: Alaska, Iowa, Kentucky, Minnesota, and New Jersey. Contact the Nebraska Department of Education to inquire about your specific situation. Please see our interstate reciprocity disclaimer for more information.

Incentives to teach in high-needs schools or shortage subject areas: The Nebraska Department of Education provides loan forgiveness support for teachers teaching in low-income schools and in shortage subject areas as designated by the U.S. Department of Education.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:45:05am

re: #87 Apocalypse

How tall is the grass?

Well, from the guy in that gif clip, it would appear his grass is about two feet high.

I can mow my lawn to about a half-an-inch with a scythe. (All this rain we’ve gotten, I need to mow nearly every other day. On the other hand, good aerobic exercise.)

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Apocalypse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:49:40am

re: #89 Anymouse

That makes more sense now (to use a scythe, rather than a lawnmower). I imagine a a single blade is easier to maintain than am engine plus a blade that requires to be balanced.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:55:41am

re: #90 Apocalypse

That makes more sense now (to use a scythe, rather than a lawnmower). I imagine a a single blade is easier to maintain than am engine plus a blade that requires to be balanced.

Yup. If you have a giant yard (an acre or something like that), using a scythe would be a bit time-comsuming.

My (large for my town) lot on the other hand is much simpler. (My neighbours do give me a bit of side-eye when I’m out mowing my lawn, but the farmers all think I’m “down with the real folk” around here.)

With practice, you can use the tool to get right up to the edge of a building or over rough areas that a lawnmower cannot go.

A scythe requires no oil, no maintenance (other than occasional peening and sharpening), no gasoline. Best time to mow is in the morning, when the dew is still in the grass and the grass is still heavy (both for lawns and hay). The scythe cuts through better.

Next door to me a person has a “garden lot” (an empty lot used for a garden here in town) planted in winter wheat. They harvest the wheat with scythes. The owner can clear the whole lot in a couple hours.

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Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:57:44am

On the one hand, I wanna be awake for the Rosenstein’s testimony this morning, on the other this head cold’s been kicking my ass and sleep is gonna be awful hard to fight.

Curse you, traitorous body! CURSE YOU!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:04:01am

re: #76 Anymouse

Uh:

In October 2009, a suit was filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council that challenged the pipeline on the grounds that its permit was based on a deficient environmental impact statement. The suit was thrown out by a federal judge on procedural grounds, ruling that the NRDC lacked the authority to bring it.[200]

In June 2012, Sierra Club, Inc., Clean Energy Future Oklahoma, and the East Texas Sub Regional Planning Commission filed a joint complaint in the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma seeking injunctive relief and petitioning for a review of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ action in issuing Nationwide Permit 12 permits for the Cushing, Oklahoma, to the Gulf Coast portion of the pipeline. The suit alleges that, contrary to the federal Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 701 et. seq., the Corps’ issuance of the permits was arbitrary and capricious and an abuse of discretion.[201]

en.wikipedia.org

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:06:45am

re: #81 Kragar

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ISIS claims credit if someone stubs their toe, so I don’t believe them automatically.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:09:56am

re: #94 Timothy Watson

ISIS claims credit if someone stubs their toe, so I don’t believe them automatically.

ISIS’ Amaq News Agency is posting vids of the attack taken by the attacker inside the Parliament building in Tehran.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:14:09am

Shameless page promotion:

Rural Intelligent Life: Sickles and Scythes (goes to the right hand column of LGF)

Since we’re talking about scythes, I published here an article for a column I write called Rural Intelligent Life. The rights attached to articles published in that journal remain with the author, so I can re-publish it here.

The article is a (short) history of the sickle and scythe, along with further sources for more information.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:14:25am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

ISIS’ Amaq News Agency is posting vids of the attack taken by the attacker inside the Parliament building in Tehran.

Okay, that’s a little different.

Just in the past, they’ve claimed credit for everything that has happened in Europe without any substantive proof, like a martyrdom video or anything.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:16:29am

re: #97 Timothy Watson

Okay, that’s a little different.

Just in the past, they’ve claimed credit for everything that has happened in Europe without any substantive proof, like a martyrdom video or anything.

And you’re right to be skeptical; to be honest, if I’d eaten a bad burrito and tweeted about it, I have almost no doubt that ISIS would try to claim responsibility.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:21:49am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

And you’re right to be skeptical; to be honest, if I’d eaten a bad burrito and tweeted about it, I have almost no doubt that ISIS would try to claim responsibility.

“eaten a bad burrito.” LOL

They’ll pretty much claim responsibility for anything, because FEARFEARFEARFEAR amongst conservatives in other countries.

My irises around my house wilted, must have been ISIS. Or gay lesbian farmers.

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Lupin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:21:59am

People say films, tv, comics, etc. influence kids. Yet none of these kids 9or their parents) appear to have been influenced by the positive messages of tolerance put out by hollywood (or marvel and DC Comics) for well over 50 years. What gives?

buzzfeed

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:29:05am

re: #100 Lupin

People say films, tv, comics, etc. influence kids. Yet none of these kids 9or their parents) appear to have been influenced by the positive messages of tolerance put out by hollywood (or marvel and DC Comics) for well over 50 years. What gives?

buzzfeed

Fearmongering and blame-shifting. Hollywood makes a good boogeyman (it always has, since it is filled with liberals like Chuck Norris and such).

People were demonising the evils of comic books a century ago, threatening to have Congress censor them (thus comic book companies formed the Comics Code Authority to self-censor).

The problem is, conservative moral scolds are never satisfied and can’t be. Even though comic companies like Marvel, DC, and Archie comics scrupulously abided by their comics code, it wasn’t enough.

Conservatives will never be happy, because they cannot be happy. That is not a problem merely in the USA, but conservatism everywhere.

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Apocalypse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:31:22am

re: #100 Lupin

If Video games influenced children, why have I not made it my life’s purpose to kill and eradicate the Strogg?

//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:34:45am

re: #100 Lupin

People say films, tv, comics, etc. influence kids. Yet none of these kids 9or their parents) appear to have been influenced by the positive messages of tolerance put out by hollywood (or marvel and DC Comics) for well over 50 years. What gives?

buzzfeed

Kids are no different than adults in misinterpreting how people want their works to be seen. And we can’t underestimate how the alt right goes after kids too. I’m not a parent but I intend to live by example and also explain how diversity made my child the unique individual they will be and how diversity does make the world a better place.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:40:06am

re: #102 Apocalypse

If Video games influenced children, why have I not made it my life’s purpose to kill and eradicate the Strogg?

//

I’m still looking for a dot moving between two paddles on a video ping pong game.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:40:27am
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Apocalypse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:42:32am

re: #104 Anymouse

LOL

I still can’t decide if pong was a step up or step down when compared to Air Hockey.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:43:16am

re: #105 Barefoot Grin

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He’s got a third grade brain for policy and I’m being unfair to third graders.

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Lupin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:46:15am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Kids are no different than adults in misinterpreting how people want their works to be seen. And we can’t underestimate how the alt right goes after kids too. I’m not a parent but I intend to live by example and also explain how diversity made my child the unique individual they will be and how diversity does make the world a better place.

The idea that dialogue that could have been written by Stan Lee or Roy Thomas and placed in the mouths of the Red Skull, the Hate-Monger or The Sons of the Serpent is regurgitated by kids raised by parents born in the 1980s is, frankly, beyond me.

Do the same kids (those mentioned in the buzzfeed articles) watch Arrow, The Flash or Supergirl? Do they live in the Hydra-universe of the framework already?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:46:26am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:48:11am

Sweetest burn of the day….

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:48:51am

re: #106 Apocalypse

LOL

I still can’t decide if pong was a step up or step down when compared to Air Hockey.

My mother bought a Pong video game when they first came out and cost about as much as a house payment today. It was to entertain her children.

It also had hockey!

Damn I am old.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:50:37am

Ouch.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:54:05am

re: #112 Anymouse

Ouch.

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Ha! Unfortunately that’s only gonna make em double down.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:57:10am
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:58:33am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Ha! Unfortunately that’s only gonna make em double down.

Probably. “North Korea wants this? Must be bad.”

North Korea is correct though. It is about selfishness. Gotta make more money, screw the rest of the world.

Did I mention I am not a fan of unregulated capitalism?

I need to log out. I have a dine out to go to in Cheyenne tonight. Catch y’all later.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:00:33am

re: #115 Anymouse

Probably. “North Korea wants this? Must be bad.”

North Korea is correct though. It is about selfishness. Gotta make more money, screw the rest of the world.

Did I mention I am not a fan of unregulated capitalism?

I need to log out. I have a dine out to go to in Cheyenne tonight. Catch y’all later.

Yeah that’s what I meant.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:01:12am

re: #114 Dave In Austin

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Crooked bastards.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:09:01am

These are the turds you see spewing blatant lies on the tube in the morning. They need to be trolled hard.

americafirstpolicies.org

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:31:55am

re: #118 Dave In Austin

I don’t get it. Did you want me to sign up? I get enough spam already.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:35:07am

Interviews with Kentucky voters who will get killed by the AHCA but will mostly keep voting Republican anyway.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:37:46am

THIS THREAD IS TERRIFYING==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:48:20am

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meteor  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:48:37am

re: #114 Dave In Austin

Fraud! Jail!

These people have to go away.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:50:47am

He just named the new FBI director on Twitter.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:00:14am

Fish monster FTW.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:01:36am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

((((VB))))

Is the surgery even an option?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:02:36am

And now, a commercial break:

one-eight-seven-seven-kars-for-kids, one-eight-seven-seven-kars-for-kids….

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caseyjr  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:05:25am

A sound bite from Mighty Clapper of Thunder:

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:07:00am

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

And now, a commercial break:

one-eight-seven-seven-kars-for-kids, one-eight-seven-seven-kars-for-kids….

Did you see the reporting a couple months back on them being a scam?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:07:24am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:07:28am

Yeah. This.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:12:26am

Snip from a Walmart “Emergency Food” page. One of these things is not like the others:

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:13:02am

re: #91 Anymouse

Bring on your scythe. I am headed out to more hours of mowing today: My mowing job takes about 36 hours and, this time of year, has to immediately be repeated. The fairways and walking paths on my disc golf courses total about two miles in length.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:20:01am

re: #129 Timothy Watson

Did you see the reporting a couple months back on them being a scam?

No, but my wife just turned and said, “I hear this all the time; what the hell is this?” Now I have an answer.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:21:54am

re: #133 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Bring on your scythe. I am headed out to more hours of mowing today: My mowing job takes about 36 hours and, this time of year, has to immediately be repeated. The fairways and walking paths on my disc golf courses total about two miles in length.

Wait, there’s such a thing as “playing out of the rough” in disc golf?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:25:56am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:34:10am

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah. Not holding my breath expecting the Trumps to apply pressure on Beijing to get those people released.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:36:18am

Full press on Comey’s credibility is on. Utter bullshit tactics.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:37:11am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

He just named the new FBI director on Twitter.

The most beautiful, impeccable credentials. Just absolutely, impeccable, really. Believe me.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:38:39am

So, how many batshit fundy gun churches are there? What do THEY have planned?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:39:19am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Full press on Comey’s credibility is on. Utter bullshit tactics.

But Obama said “I” in his speeches.

/

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:41:37am

re: #139 Sir John Barron

The most beautiful, impeccable credentials. Just absolutely, impeccable, really. Believe me.

Trying to drive the news. Fox is all over it; the VA thing, too. Comey? Just to discredit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:42:17am

re: #141 Sir John Barron

But Obama said “I” in his speeches.

/

That time Obama said “I have a great brain”…. //

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:46:26am

re: #57 Anymouse

Televangelist Assholes Pretty Sure Manchester and London Asking for It Like Common Godless Sluts (with a headline like that, it can only be Wonkette, with over three thousand comments):

More at the link:

But terrorism is awful and Muslims must be banned and radical Islam eradicated and hey I wonder if maybe these so-called victims didn’t just deserve to die because…

///

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Bass Reeves  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:47:49am

re: #70 Anymouse

Maybe Nebraska could garner more sympathy if the state hadn’t voted for the guy who promised to do this. Standing Rock protesters took beatings, for some reason I have a hard time thinking Nebraska protesters will be treated the same, at least until there is proof of ‘outside agitators’.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:47:56am

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel

Snip from a Walmart “Emergency Food” page. One of these things is not like the others:

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Works in a pinch….. After you eat the dog…..

edit:
//.5

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:48:18am

re: #20 Kragar

Can’t wait to be on @seanhannity at 10pm on @FoxNews - discussing the ugliness of politics. pic.twitter.com

— Eric Trump

“My dad’s campaign rallies and convention featured “Lock her up” chants about Hillary Clinton.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:48:26am

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

Fuckers are whipping themselves up for a real pogrom. Be ready. Hell of it is, Muslims cannot really arm themselves for their own defense, though it is their legal right to do so. If Muslims started posting armed guards outside their facilities, as many fundy churches do, the right wing would go berserk. Hate media has already superseded the rule of law in that respect.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:53:47am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

Fuckers are whipping themselves up for a real pogrom. Be ready. Hell of it is, Muslims cannot really arm themselves for their own defense, though it is their legal right to do so. If Muslims started posting armed guards outside their facilities, as many fundy churches do, the right wing would go berserk. Hate media has already superseded the rule of law in that respect.

Can you imagine if they tried to start their own police departments a la that church cult in Alabama (I almost wrote Allahbama)….

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:54:48am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

Fuckers are whipping themselves up for a real pogrom. Be ready. Hell of it is, Muslims cannot really arm themselves for their own defense, though it is their legal right to do so. If Muslims started posting armed guards outside their facilities, as many fundy churches do, the right wing would go berserk. Hate media has already superseded the rule of law in that respect.

I did notice, right away, that the numbers of mosques on that map seem to plot pretty well with the size of the state’s population. IOW, the more people, the more Muslims, ergo, more mosques.
Sinister!!!

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:55:37am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

Fuckers are whipping themselves up for a real pogrom. Be ready. Hell of it is, Muslims cannot really arm themselves for their own defense, though it is their legal right to do so. If Muslims started posting armed guards outside their facilities, as many fundy churches do, the right wing would go berserk. Hate media has already superseded the rule of law in that respect.

If any of you live in communities with mosques, see if there are Christian churches (y’know the lukewarm backbencher Presbys and Episcopals types) willing to provide “security details” around the mosques, to discourage mischief by the knuckle-draggers.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:57:09am

re: #150 Jay C

I did notice, right away, that the numbers of mosques on that map seem to plot pretty well with the size of the state’s population. IOW, the more people, the more Muslims, ergo, more mosques.
Sinister!!!

And you now what else? More people, more taco trucks! It’s a conspiracy! Wake up, sheeple!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:03:17am

re: #151 wheat-dogg

If any of you live in communities with mosques, see if there are Christian churches (y’know the lukewarm backbencher Presbys and Episcopals types) willing to provide “security details” around the mosques, to discourage mischief by the knuckle-draggers.

“Firewatch”. No weapons but cell phones and the local PD # at hand.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:03:31am

re: #151 wheat-dogg

If any of you live in communities with mosques, see if there are Christian churches (y’know the lukewarm backbencher Presbys and Episcopals types) willing to provide “security details” around the mosques, to discourage mischief by the knuckle-draggers.

There has been some of that in the Dallas suburbs. At least they have had solidarity demonstrations. I don’t know if anyone has provided actual security details.

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I cannot.  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:04:21am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

If they arm themselves, the right goes “AAHHJIHADISTTERROR!”, but if they don’t, then they’re susceptible to RWNJs doing RWNJ things.

I’ve said this before, *if* you can, offer to stand guard at a local mosque. Drive or walk by occasionally to make sure there’s no suspicious activity.

But check with the local mosque FIRST so they don’t report you as the suspicious one.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:04:59am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:05:18am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

Can you imagine if they tried to start their own police departments a la that church cult in Alabama (I almost wrote Allahbama)….

I’m looking forward to seeing the Church of Satan police. Imagine the uniforms!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:05:35am

re: #150 Jay C

I did notice, right away, that the numbers of mosques on that map seem to plot pretty well with the size of the state’s population. IOW, the more people, the more Muslims, ergo, more mosques.
Sinister!!!

YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:12am

re: #155 I cannot.

If they arm themselves, the right goes “AAHHJIHADISTTERROR!”, but if they don’t, then they’re susceptible to RWNJs doing RWNJ things.

I’ve said this before, *if* you can, offer to stand guard at a local mosque. Drive or walk by occasionally to make sure there’s no suspicious activity.

But check with the local mosque FIRST so they don’t report you as the suspicious one.

Hasidic Jews and Muslims in Brooklyn should guard each other’s synagogues and mosques. The wingnut head splosions would be epic!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:30am

re: #147 Sir John Barron

“My dad’s campaign rallies and convention featured “Lock her up” chants about Hillary Clinton.”

Also Eric “I retweeted white supremacist Twitter feeds.”

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:09:12am

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

So, how many batshit fundy gun churches are there? What do THEY have planned?

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FFS this shit is fucked up.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:09:12am

re: #146 Dave In Austin

Works in a pinch….. After you eat the dog…..

My wonder-dog, Roswell II the Atomic Pound-Pooch, registers a protest and also points out that he would be very good at locating food supplies the yokels leave behind when they kill each other or die of fallout.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:09:47am

re: #147 Sir John Barron

“My dad’s campaign rallies and convention featured “Lock her up” chants about Hillary Clinton.”

His asshole father calls the media the enemy of the United States. FFS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:10:00am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Also Eric “I retweeted white supremacist Twitter feeds.”

I think that’s more Donny Jr. but would not surprise me if Eric was also BFFs with the nazi deplorables.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:10:03am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Also Eric “I retweeted white supremacist Twitter feeds.”

“The only ugly thing about that is you people pointing out that I retweeted white supremacists.”

/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:11:26am

re: #145 Bass Reeves

Maybe Nebraska could garner more sympathy if the state hadn’t voted for the guy who promised to do this. Standing Rock protesters took beatings, for some reason I have a hard time thinking Nebraska protesters will be treated the same, at least until there is proof of ‘outside agitators’.

I sympathize but we in the “liberal states” have our own things we have to manage.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:11:44am

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel

“These secretive, suspicious mosques are hiding in plain sight but here we have a complete list of them.”

/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:12:03am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

I think that’s more Donny Jr. but would not surprise me if Eric was also BFFs with the nazi deplorables.

Ah, I always get the two messed up.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:12:43am

I heard Dennis Prager* this morning saying that his message to Republicans is that “we’re in a civil war with the left” and therefore they MUST support Trump. This is what we’re up against.

*”Intellectual”

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:12:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:13:22am

re: #166 Sir John Barron

“The only ugly thing about that is you people pointing out that I retweeted white supremacists.”

/

Heh you jest obviously but that’s exactly how Eric and his brother think. That it’s hateful to point out their ties to hatefulness. Really Sean fucking Hannity who complained about Obama’s burger condiment choice has no room at all to complain about anyone criticizing Trump too much.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:14:23am

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

I heard Dennis Prager* this morning saying that his message to Republicans is that “we’re in a civil war with the left” and therefore they MUST support Trump. This is what we’re up against.

*”Intellectual”

But liberals are so intolerant because something something college campuses. You talk about us as if we’re your enemy, we’re going ot push back.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:14:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:15:03am

Wray doesn’t sound awful but the resume seems a bit thin for a FBI director.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:15:36am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Wray doesn’t sound awful but the resume seems a bit thin for a FBI director.

Trump’s requirement: Loyalty.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:15:53am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:16:14am

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

I heard Dennis Prager* this morning saying that his message to Republicans is that “we’re in a civil war with the left” and therefore they MUST support Trump. This is what we’re up against.

*”Intellectual”

I can’t wait to hear Eric Trump condemn this example of very ugly politics.

/

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I cannot.  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:16:55am

Oh god. Left Twitter has a NEW old reason to hate Hillary Clinton. It seems the Clintons, back during Bill’s time as Governor of Arkansas, used prison labor at the Governor’s Mansion. So, they used what was effectively slave labor.

HILLARY ACTUALLY WROTE ABOUT THAT IN “IT TAKES A VILLAGE”, PUBLISHED OVER TWO DECADES AGO!

Its funny that we went through the primary, the general election and it only becomes an issue over 6 months after the election. And this is why we can’t have nice things.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:16:57am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

But liberals are so intolerant because something something college campuses. You talk about us as if we’re your enemy, we’re going ot push back.

And basically he’s saying, “forget the Russian attack on our sovereignty; gotta support the GOP against liberals.” Can you imagine: “forget Pearl Harbor, we’ve got taxes to cut!”

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:17:18am

What a tiny little world this is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:17:23am

re: #177 jaunte

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I expect Donna to get crap from both Trumpbots and Sanderbots.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:18:20am

re: #180 Barefoot Grin

And basically he’s saying, “forget the Russian attack on our sovereignty; gotta support the GOP against liberals.” Can you imagine: “forget Pearl Harbor, we’ve got taxes to cut!”

Party above all else.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:19:57am

Color me surprised…the $110B deal with the Saudis is carry over negotiations from Obama…and not complete.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:21:08am

re: #179 I cannot.

Oh god. Left Twitter has a NEW old reason to hate Hillary Clinton. It seems the Clintons, back during Bill’s time as Governor of Arkansas, used prison labor at the Governor’s Mansion. So, they used what was effectively slave labor.

HILLARY ACTUALLY WROTE ABOUT THAT IN “IT TAKES A VILLAGE”, PUBLISHED OVER TWO DECADES AGO!

Its funny that we went through the primary, the general election and it only becomes an issue over 6 months after the election. And this is why we can’t have nice things.

Lefty purity will be the death of us all. Funny how Sanders never got every last goddamn thing that happened in his life scrunitized. Sanders- cosponsor of a bill that environmentalists called one of the worst acts of environmental racism in recent history. Sanders, a man whose immigration record Steve King praised when criticizing his Republican colleagues. I’m all for looking at someone’s flaws but it really pisses me off that the people who picked every last scab off of Clinton’s record refused to do any sort of self criticism when it came to Sanders.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:22:33am

It’s not that people are digging up dirt on Wray because he’s the nominee…it’s just there.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:24:21am

re: #179 I cannot.

Oh god. Left Twitter has a NEW old reason to hate Hillary Clinton. It seems the Clintons, back during Bill’s time as Governor of Arkansas, used prison labor at the Governor’s Mansion. So, they used what was effectively slave labor.

HILLARY ACTUALLY WROTE ABOUT THAT IN “IT TAKES A VILLAGE”, PUBLISHED OVER TWO DECADES AGO!

Its funny that we went through the primary, the general election and it only becomes an issue over 6 months after the election. And this is why we can’t have nice things.

Uh…every state does that. Hell, Virginia has the Department of Corrections’ “Correctional Enterprises” which makes tables and chairs which state agencies are required by law to buy.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:27:53am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:28:26am

re: #187 Timothy Watson

Some of our toughest wildfire firefighters are trustee convicts. I have seen them work, read of a couple over the years dying on the job. Best bad guys around.

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caseyjr  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:30:20am

re: #186 darthstar

It’s not that people are digging up dirt on Wray because he’s the nominee…it’s just there.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:30:34am

re: #187 Timothy Watson

Uh…every state does that. Hell, Virginia has the Department of Corrections’ “Correctional Enterprises” which makes tables and chairs which state agencies are required by law to buy.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:30:37am

re: #153 Unshaken Defiance

“Firewatch”. No weapons but cell phones and the local PD # at hand.

Alabama lefty starts giggling like a schoolgirl.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:31:04am

re: #190 caseyjr

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Maybe Wray has Tom Brady’s too. Sorry sports joke.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:33:08am

Okay…who wants to guess how long it will take to find a Russia connection with Wray?

Answer here:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:34:37am

re: #194 darthstar

Okay…who wants to guess how long it will take to find a Russia connection with Wray?

Answer here:

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From Wrayussia with love I guess. Is there anyone in this goddamned admninistration that isn’t Russia tied? Maybe Mattis?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:34:59am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Alabama lefty starts giggling like a schoolgirl.

Your PD may vary… LOL. Good point.

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:35:07am

You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting someone in Trump’s circle who’s all Russia’d up.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:35:55am

Does this mean Wray will recuse himself from the Russia investigation if he’s confirmed?

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I cannot.  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:37:04am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

I hate my home team for consistently demanding more tax benefits and shit from my local and state government, but whenever someone mentions that guy or the team he plays for, I become the world’s biggest Colts fan.

I mean, I’ll be honest though, we were losing the game badly, and those fuckers STILL cheated! You should have your team disbanded for doing something so implausibly stupid, not the actual cheating, that just deserves a forfeit…but to cheat that bigly stupid?

Wait…Tom’s a fan of Trump, right? That might explain some things…

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:37:30am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:37:52am

Iran attacks: ISIS Twin assaults on parliament and shrine rock Tehran

Parliament and the Shrine Rock? Tehran? That’s big. Imagine “West Wing” and Lincoln Memorial” for a very rough comparison. Best of luck and my prayers for the victims and responders there.

Wonder what stupidity will come from Trump?

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:41:12am

Super effective…the effectivest.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:41:28am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

Fuckers are whipping themselves up for a real pogrom. Be ready. Hell of it is, Muslims cannot really arm themselves for their own defense, though it is their legal right to do so. If Muslims started posting armed guards outside their facilities, as many fundy churches do, the right wing would go berserk. Hate media has already superseded the rule of law in that respect.

If anyone starts shit with my local Muslim community, I’ll volunteer to protect them.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:43:09am

Anyone else getting pounded the last 2 days loading LGF pages and navigating? There has been something trying to get to a site ssp.streamrail.net, and the loading icon just goes round and round. The page becomes pretty much unresponsive every few seconds, and it never seems to stop. Prob a rouge ad or something.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:44:46am

Remember, the Comey testimony isn’t about Comey, it’s about how Trump wanted him to stop investigating this fucker:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:45:26am

re: #203 covfefe

If anyone starts shit with my local Muslim community, I’ll volunteer to protect them.

A couple months ago I asked a liberal-ish Muslim if her tiny community was sensing any rising problems with our cops. Her answer: “No, they’re all doctors and businessmen—-Republicans.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:48:04am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Hah!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:49:26am

re: #199 I cannot.

I hate my home team for consistently demanding more tax benefits and shit from my local and state government, but whenever someone mentions that guy or the team he plays for, I become the world’s biggest Colts fan.

I mean, I’ll be honest though, we were losing the game badly, and those fuckers STILL cheated! You should have your team disbanded for doing something so implausibly stupid, not the actual cheating, that just deserves a forfeit…but to cheat that bigly stupid?

Wait…Tom’s a fan of Trump, right? That might explain some things…

Heh I understand, I’m a Steelers fan.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:49:30am

re: #190 caseyjr

Wray is well-versed in legal-ish obstruction tactics; Bigly qualified

Impeccable. The most impeccable. Bigly impeccable.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:49:31am

I appreciate everyone’s patience while I’m in my current Photoshop phase.

AND, I have to share tis one, I think it’s a hoot!

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:50:48am

re: #197 makeitstop

You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting someone in Trump’s circle who’s all Russia’d up.

Why would anyone swing a dead cat?

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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:52:38am

LIVE: Rosenstein, Intel Chiefs Testify at Senate Hearing on President Trump and Russia Investigation

LIVE: Rosenstein, Intel Chiefs Testify at Senate Hearing on President Trump and Russia Investigation

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:52:46am

re: #212 Birth Control Works

Why would anyone swing a dead cat?

Ever tried swinging a live one?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:53:25am

re: #207 Sir John Barron

Hah!

“We’re fully integrated. Uncle Shlomo fought in the Great War; we’re safe here in Bamberg.”

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:53:42am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:54:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:56:35am

re: #216 Birth Control Works

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Never worked a day in Wall Street in my life nor do I ever plan to.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:57:54am

NYT email digest:

ON THIS DAY

On June 7, 1929, the sovereign state of Vatican City came into existence as copies of the Lateran Treaty were exchanged in Rome.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:58:03am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:59:21am

re: #214 wheat-dogg

Ever tried swinging a live one?

Did you see my #208 —Yes, I fell into that one —still on my first cuppa

still

I can’t imagine a reason for swinging any cat.

I think you should research the origins of the saying and report back to us.

:0

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:01:11am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Never worked a day in Wall Street in my life nor do I ever plan to.

I think the joke is that the first part plays to everyone who bought fake news.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:01:26am

They swung cats in medieval times. I hope we’re beyond that.

Monty Python-Bring out your dead!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:05:42am

re: #222 Belafon

I think the joke is that the first part plays to everyone who bought fake news.

Ah ok.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:16:07am

re: #58 Kragar

Shootings reported at Iranian parliament and shrine of Imam Khomeini in Tehran say Iranian media

That’s what they get for not banning Muslim immigration until they figure out what is going on!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:18:34am
German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel accused US President Donald Trump of stirring up conflicts in the Middle East and risking a new arms race as Qatar’s neighbours cut ties with Doha.

Saudi Arabia and allies including Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain announced Monday they were severing diplomatic relations and closing air, sea and land links with Qatar.

The dispute comes less than a month after Trump visited Saudi Arabia and called for Muslim nations to unite against “extremism”.

[…]

“Apparently, Qatar is to be isolated more or less completely and hit existentially. Such a ‘Trumpification’ of relations in a region already susceptible to crises is particularly dangerous,” Gabriel said.

aljazeera.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:19:33am

Morning…I think.

So, Eric T. says liberals that criticize El Trumpo Blimpo aren’t people but that is not a “deplorable” comment.

Okay slick. Whatever.

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jeffreyw  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:22:09am

Imgur
Good morning!

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:27:40am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Heh I understand, I’m a Steelers fan.

I’m still a Browns fan. I hate everybody!

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:28:56am

the Kinsey Institute reported that only a slight majority of Americans over the age of 60 believed sex using a condom counted as sex. That means, many Olds think you can go buck wild having hot “not sex” with whoever you want because the purpose of that activity isn’t procreation. That explains why the casual sex rate at retirement homes is reportedly through the roof.

Because the average age of virginity loss has pretty much stayed the same across generations (17-18), that means our parents and grandparents were fucking around like rabbits for three or so years before cooling off, whereas, on average, we tend to take our time committing to anyone, and we have a whole lot of casual sexual activity, which many of us are hesitant to call sex at all.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:29:33am

Trump did not enter the campaign or prosecute it in good faith.

That alone should negate the election.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:46:31am

Heh.

Gotta give a link to this illustration/cartoon from The New Yorker. It’s from two weeks ago and I don’t think it was displayed here. I love this guy’s style.

Barry Blitz - New Yorker - THE POST-PRESIDENTIAL PAINTINGS OF DONALD TRUMP (PROBABLY)

THE POST-PRESIDENTIAL PAINTINGS OF DONALD TRUMP (PROBABLY)
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 7:59:14am

Are the hearings really this boring? I was expecting more chatter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:00:51am
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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:01:18am

re: #235 Belafon

Are the hearings really this boring? I was expecting more chatter.

Seeing a lot of stonewalling going on.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:09:01am

re: #221 Birth Control Works

Did you see my #208 —Yes, I fell into that one —still on my first cuppa

still

I can’t imagine a reason for swinging any cat.

I think you should research the origins of the saying and report back to us.

:0

The cat in question is a cat ‘o nine tails, I believe.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:13:36am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s just as bad to call them out. // Why do you hate free peaches.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:19:04am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:22:34am

I see on the Twitters that, after running with the SETH RICH WAS KILLED FOR LEAKING DNC EMAILS conspiracy for a while, the MAGAbots are back to YES SURE RUSSIA INTERFERED IN THE ELECTION BUT SHOW US ON THE DOLL WHERE ANY VOTING MACHINES WERE HACKED OR ANY VOTES CHANGED and THERE WAS NO COLLUSSION.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:24:25am

re: #241 Sir John Barron

I see on the Twitters, that after running with the SETH RICH WAS KILLED FOR LEAKING DNC EMAILS conspiracy for a while, I see the MAGAbots are back to YES SURE RUSSIA INTERFERED IN THE ELECTION BUT SHOW US ON THE DOLL WHERE ANY VOTING MACHINES WERE HACKED OR ANY VOTES CHANGED.

Those bots are taking jobs away from hard-working American goalpost-movers!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:27:34am

re: #241 Sir John Barron

I see on the Twitters that, after running with the SETH RICH WAS KILLED FOR LEAKING DNC EMAILS conspiracy for a while, the MAGAbots are back to YES SURE RUSSIA INTERFERED IN THE ELECTION BUT SHOW US ON THE DOLL WHERE ANY VOTING MACHINES WERE HACKED OR ANY VOTES CHANGED and THERE WAS NO COLLUSSION.

These are the same people who would think ACORN caused Obama to be re-elected despite being no matter after being defunded. you know morons.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:29:32am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:29:57am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

These are the same people who would think ACORN caused Obama to be re-elected despite being no matter after being defunded. you know morons.

Automated Twitter bots are not really people, except that Eric Trump thinks they probably are people.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:30:16am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

Automated Twitter bots are not really people, except that Eric Trump thinks they probably are people.

Touche!

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prairiefire  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:30:32am

I specifically got my mom an oversized Resist Smokey the Bear with pink pussy hat t shirt so she would wear it at home and not be confrontational. Guess what she is wearing for our Trolley tour of Eureka Springs.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:32:12am

Global warming is coming for the Winnebagos

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:32:33am

re: #247 prairiefire

I specifically got my mom an oversized Resist Smokey the Bear with pink pussy hat t shirt so she would wear it at home and not be confrontational. Guess what she is wearing for our Trolley tour of Eureka Springs.

Moms always find ways to embarrass their kids in public. :)

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:37:04am

Christ, this almost sounds like “Home” from The X-Files. Seriously, not for the weak stomached:
2 sentenced to combined 108 years in prison for sexual abuse of children in Rockbridge

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prairiefire  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:38:51am

re: #249 Timothy Watson

Who am I to think I could outsmart my mom.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:39:56am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:41:45am

In other news: Artist opens felt bodega in NYC.

Lucy Sparrow’s 8 ‘Till Late at The Standard, High Line - #1

British artist Lucy Sparrow is paying homage to the classic NYC bodega with an art installation in The Standard, High Line called “8 Till Late.” Her life-size replica of a corner convenience store features over 9,000 items handmade out of felt. The products, which include boxes of Lucky Charms, SPAM, bug spray, Advil, Ruffles potato chips, and mildly anthropomorphic meat, are all for sale, both in person and through Sparrow’s website. It’s just like a real bodega, but softer and infinitely more precious. And yes, of course there is a felt bodega cat chilling near the felt fridge stocked with felt ice cream.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:43:39am

re: #250 Timothy Watson

Christ, this almost sounds like “Home” from The X-Files. Seriously, not for the weak stomached:
2 sentenced to combined 108 years in prison for sexual abuse of children in Rockbridge

Oh My Dog…. :(

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:45:03am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

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The book’s been out since the mid 80’s you stupid turd. But hey Ted Cruz, great job giving this guy mainstream status. You should be so proud of yourself.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:46:04am

Why is that Evangelical Christians like Swanson project on to other people what they seem to want for others? I don’t consider myself a Christian but I know a lot of people who do who would be genuinely stumped by this weird sense of persecution and desire to persecute at the same time.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:48:22am

re: #250 Timothy Watson

Christ, this almost sounds like “Home” from The X-Files. Seriously, not for the weak stomached:
2 sentenced to combined 108 years in prison for sexual abuse of children in Rockbridge

I’ve read of worse.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:50:16am

re: #253 makeitstop

In other news: Artist opens felt bodega in NYC.

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Pfffft. Pope Innocent the Third was patron of a felt bodega.

(No, he wasn’t.)

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:54:27am

re: #257 Teukka

I’ve read of worse.

Yeah, I am sure, but it was a combination of things for me: the sexual abuse, the age of the victims, the fact that social services received multiple complaints and did nothing, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 8:55:02am

So, the other day, I was musing how Turkey would react to the ongoing Qatar situation. I guess I more-or-less got my answer.

Mehmet Buyukeksi, the head of Turkey’s main exporting trade body Turkish Exporters Assembly (TIM), told Reuters on Wednesday that Turkish exporters are ready to meet demand for food and water from Qatar.

Al Jazeera’s Sinem Koseoglu, reporting from Istanbul, said the Turkish government and some opposition parties had expressed support for Qatar during the rift and had said its isolation is not acceptable.

“Since the tension between Qatar and other Gulf states has risen, Turkey has shown great support for Qatar - not only on a political level, but on a public level as well,” she said.

“On the public level, social media has been showing great support to Qatar with the hastag ‘Qatar is not alone’,” she said.

Pro-Qatar protests are also planned in Istanbul for Wednesday night.

aljazeera.com

The Saudis are gonna be pissed.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:00:13am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Yeah, I am sure, but it was a combination of things for me: the sexual abuse, the age of the victims, the fact that social services received multiple complaints and did nothing, etc.

It’s happened here in Sweden as well, more than once, healthcare, school and police make complaints to social services, which in turn do absolutely nothing. One of the cases, the girl became pregnant twice and gave birth to the children, and nothing happened, despite the child having very characteristic problems to extremely close cosanguinity.

I think it boils down to, not as much as not caring, to something being seriously amiss in in the science on which early detection and prevention is based on.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:02:00am

A must read thread:

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:02:16am

re: #248 jaunte

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Global warming is coming for the Winnebagos

bummer

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:06:08am

re: #261 Teukka

I think it boils down to, not as much as not caring, to something being seriously amiss in in the science on which early detection and prevention is based on.

The problem here is more likely related to understaffing at the agencies that are supposed to do something.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:06:40am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

A must read thread:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:07:07am
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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:07:37am

re: #264 sagehen

The problem here is more likely related to understaffing at the agencies that are supposed to do something.

Understaffing and undertraining, as well as the wrong training, aye.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:09:52am

re: #264 sagehen

The problem here is more likely related to understaffing at the agencies that are supposed to do something.

Compounded by conflicting organizational goals/guidance regarding due process, privacy rights, and viable alternatives.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:10:18am

re: #261 Teukka

It’s happened here in Sweden as well, more than once, healthcare, school and police make complaints to social services, which in turn do absolutely nothing. One of the cases, the girl became pregnant twice and gave birth to the children, and nothing happened, despite the child having very characteristic problems to extremely close cosanguinity.

I think it boils down to, not as much as not caring, to something being seriously amiss in in the science on which early detection and prevention is based on.

re: #264 sagehen

The problem here is more likely related to understaffing at the agencies that are supposed to do something.

There was a grand jury investigation into that social services agency because they refused to do their job for years. They wouldn’t enter complaints into the state’s computer system as required, they shredded complaints and investigative files in violation of state policy, etc.

Despite what one attorney called “subhuman” conditions in the home, Rockbridge social services workers were slow to respond to complaints from concerned neighbors.

A former supervisor at the agency refused to enter the reports into a computer system as required by state policy and told caseworkers not to be bothered with the case, according to the special grand jury’s report. The Roanoke Times is not naming the supervisor because she was not charged with a crime.

“We don’t do it that way … because that’s the way I want it,” the woman reportedly said when asked to explain her inaction.

The former supervisor, who was accused of shredding some reports of child abuse that were made to the agency, also expressed little sympathy for the plight of the two young girls.

“They’re used to living that way so what’s the big deal?” she was quoted as saying in the grand jury report.

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kirkspencer  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:11:29am

re: #261 Teukka
“?

It’s happened here in Sweden as well, more than once, healthcare, school and police make complaints to social services, which in turn do absolutely nothing. One of the cases, the girl became pregnant twice and gave birth to the children, and nothing happened, despite the child having very characteristic problems to extremely close cosanguinity.

I think it boils down to, not as much as not caring, to something being seriously amiss in in the science on which early detection and prevention is based on.

Here in the US I think the biggest problems are due to it being a subject with multiple conflicting interests and a shortage of appropriate funding.

By conflicting interest, consider all the ways “do what’s best for the children” can mean to various parties.

And consider simple practicality with this fork. Social worker gets call, comes, and decides to take children away? hammer. Gets call, comes, and decides it’s not quite at that level? hammer (once/if the sordid details - which would have required a warrant and a bit of luck to discover - come out).

The most cynical people I know work in child services. They beat prison workers, attorneys, and soldiers by miles.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:12:00am

re: #269 Timothy Watson

That’s a whole ‘nother problem.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:25:33am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

It’s entirely possible that Eric Trump has lived a very cloistered, insular, and protected life. That’s typically what happens when you’re a spoiled child of a very rich person, you don’t ever have to hear that bad things.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:26:37am

re: #261 Teukka

Upding for cosanguinity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:33:56am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Yeah, I am sure, but it was a combination of things for me: the sexual abuse, the age of the victims, the fact that social services received multiple complaints and did nothing, etc.


“They’re used to living that way so what’s the big deal?” she was quoted as saying in the grand jury report.

THAT comment by the supervisor at Social Services about the children…good grief…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:37:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:38:08am

and the yam has landed in Cincinnati

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:39:20am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:40:01am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

MAVERICK!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:40:42am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth


“They’re used to living that way so what’s the big deal?” she was quoted as saying in the grand jury report.

THAT comment by the supervisor at Social Services about the children…good grief…

Yeah, here’s the full text of the grand jury report.

Caseworkers kept hidden copies of files because the supervisor would shred them and made calls on their personal phones to other agencies because the supervisor told them not to talk to the police, schools, etc. without her permission.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:42:01am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

MAVERICK!

STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS!1!!

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:42:49am

re: #270 kirkspencer

“?

Here in the US I think the biggest problems are due to it being a subject with multiple conflicting interests and a shortage of appropriate funding.

By conflicting interest, consider all the ways “do what’s best for the children” can mean to various parties.

And consider simple practicality with this fork. Social worker gets call, comes, and decides to take children away? hammer. Gets call, comes, and decides it’s not quite at that level? hammer (once/if the sordid details - which would have required a warrant and a bit of luck to discover - come out).

The most cynical people I know work in child services. They beat prison workers, attorneys, and soldiers by miles.

You’re completely right, IMO: but that horrific story from Rockbridge County seems to have been made far worse by what sounds like an utter abdication of responsibility by the local social-services administrators. Sending a social worker out who has to make hard decisions (and have them backed up) is one thing: not even bothering to send anyone out (due to prejudice, or, apparently, just plain assholishness) is another.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:46:50am

Damn two year olds.

There was a girl sitting with many toys around her at ‘my coffee shop’. I admired two stuffed kittens, skritched them, and asked, ‘They won’t run away, will they?’ She said, ‘They’re pretend cats.’

It’s something when the two year olds see a need to educate the elders. And do it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:47:51am

HILARIOUS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:49:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:49:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:50:58am
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KerFuFFler  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:51:44am

re: #212 Birth Control Works

Why would anyone swing a dead cat?

Today there are so many other high tech options….

‘Copter Cat’ - Dead cat flies thru the sky

(Don’t hit me!)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:52:26am
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:52:56am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Interviews with Kentucky voters who will get killed by the AHCA but will mostly keep voting Republican anyway.

Fixed the headline:

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mmmirele  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:53:28am

re: #281 Jay C

You’re completely right, IMO: but that horrific story from Rockbridge County seems to have been made far worse by what sounds like an utter abdication of responsibility by the local social-services administrators. Sending a social worker out who has to make hard decisions (and have them backed up) is one thing: not even bothering to send anyone out (due to prejudice, or, apparently, just plain assholishness) is another.

It was worse than that. The local supervisor knew there was a problem but didn’t want those kids in her system. The case workers went around behind her back to get the kids removed, the parents drug tested and basically to work the case.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 9:57:40am

re: #289 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Fixed the headline:

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BWS and other Kentucky lizards, I hope you don’t take offense but these people frustrate the bejesus outta me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:00:28am

good fucking grief…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:00:36am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Interviews with Kentucky voters who will get killed by the AHCA but will mostly keep voting Republican anyway.

Didn’t they run that same story like three months ago?

I’m still waiting on the story about Clinton supporters (maybe even onetime Republicans like myself) who realized what a fucking disaster Trump would be.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:00:36am

Angus King was on fire this morning.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:01:17am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief…

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Uh…is the flag laying on the coal?

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:03:58am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief…

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Always the showman.

And the con.

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:05:55am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

HILARIOUS

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Burnapalooza!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:06:24am

re: #293 Timothy Watson

Didn’t they run that same story like three months ago?

I’m still waiting on the story about Clinton supporters (maybe even onetime Republicans like myself) who realized what a fucking disaster Trump would be.

I just don’t get it. You’d think that would be just as compelling. I feel bad for these people, I do but at the same time, it’s hard for me to sympathize too much since they certainly do resent “elites” like myself because of my social liberal positions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:07:13am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief…

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Clinton had a bridge to the 21st century. Trump has a Cleveland Steamer back to the 19th.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:07:54am

He didn’t know jack shit about coal miners until he saw them as easy marks for his political career. Sickening how so many miners fell for that crap.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:08:05am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Interviews with Kentucky voters who will get killed by the AHCA but will mostly keep voting Republican anyway.

“Yeah but surely some AA’s who don’t deserve healthcare like I do will be kicked off so all’s good.”

///

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:09:17am

re: #289 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Fixed the headline:

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These folks need to listen to more talk radio, read moar facebook posts about how OBAMACARE IS ALREADY FAILING AND A TRAINWRECK!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:10:11am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

He didn’t know jack shit about coal miners until he saw them as easy marks for his political career. Sickening how so many miners fell for that crap.

Coal is a great symbol for jobs for the (white) working class, self-reliance and progress (the more we burn, the more prosperous we are).

Just like The Wall and Travel Ban are symbols of our resolve to keep America white and Christian, and repealing ACA is a symbol of Fuck Obama!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:11:49am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Coal is a great symbol for jobs for the (white) working class, self-reliance and progress (the more we burn, the more prosperous we are).

Just like The Wall and Travel Ban are symbols of our resolve to keep America white and Christian, and repealing ACA is a symbol of Fuck Obama!

Believe me I know. It’s just revolting. My great granddads did not suffer from Black Lung so 65 years later some bufoon could use miners as a political prop.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:12:40am

re: #294 blueraven

Angus King was on fire this morning.

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What the hell. So, Trump’s legal team is more or less shutting up any statements.

Yeah, this looks good to the people interested in knowing if there is some kind of coverup.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:12:50am

re: #297 makeitstop

Burnapalooza!

I loved the schematic from the dark web.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:13:19am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Believe me I know. It’s just revolting. My great granddads did not suffer from Black Lung so 65 years later some bufoon could use miners as a political prop.

Ah yes, coal is also a symbol of how many jobs we could reclaim if we just got rid of pesky government environmental and safety regulations…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:13:22am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

“Yeah but surely some AA’s who don’t deserve healthcare like I do will be kicked off so all’s good.”

///

And it’s that type of mentality that many conservative voters that gets me angry. I think AM earlier was trying to say liberal voters should feel bad and help the voters in Nebraska out, okay I feel bad but when are the voters in these places going to realize that the Dems for all their flaws are trying to help them while the Republicans use gays, guns, and abortion to distract them from what really matters.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:13:47am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ah yes, coal is also a symbol of how many jobs we could reclaim if we just got rid of pesky government environmental and safety regulations…

Which is such bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:14:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:15:16am

I sympathize but I sympathize more with the Latino immigrant, the inner city resident, etc who wants to listen to us who doesn’t fall for shit like OBAMA’s COMING FOR YER GUNS and WANTS TO MAKE YOUR KIDS TRANS! Obviously not every voter in those parts is that way but enough are that in the parts of the country that ought to benefit most from liberalism are some of the most hostile to it.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:15:57am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

I got into it with that Buda guy. He actually lives in Chicago’s city limits. So not sure how much shooting he’d actually be doing. Meanwhile me in the suburbs? Well. No restrictions except for NFA/AOW type stuff. But whatever. He’s just talking shit. At least the FBI was made aware of his threats.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:16:13am

And I don’t give a fuck if that sounds elitist. I’m tired of being assumed to be some kind of snob since I’m a social liberal, not religious, like the city, and think cultural diversity is great.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:16:52am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:16:52am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Which is such bullshit.

but bullshit with a high degree of appeal to a certain demographic and voter group

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:17:35am

BTW, this event is invitation only.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:17:46am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but bullshit with a high degree of appeal to a certain demographic and voter group

I know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:18:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:19:14am

How much hair product does this little buttsack & his brother use up in a week?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:19:26am
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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:19:34am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BWS, I hope those clouds open up and piss all over Donny in the middle of his speech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:20:13am

re: #321 ObserverArt

BWS, I hope those clouds open up and piss all over Donny in the middle of his speech?

don’t I wish!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:20:44am

re: #229 jeffreyw

Is that your blue(boysen?)berry syrup?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:21:27am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

How much hair product does this little buttsack & his brother use up in a week?

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Holy Patrick Bateman. Okay AP reference aside, uh Eric, did you pay attention at all to what your father and his Republican friends did to President Obama? We want the country to succeed, your father isn’t a dictator, it’s called rule of law when the 4th circuit calls his EOs unconstitutional. You got a lot of nerve being a Trump spawn to copmlain about treatment, you entitled goddamned brat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:21:51am

STAY CALM & CUDDLE A BABY PLATYPUS

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Joe Bacon  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:21:52am

re: #257 Teukka

I’ve read of worse.

Later on tonight, I will post a private message about this.

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Citizen K  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:21:56am

Rather related to Eric Trump giving away the game again:

And just like our kids getting cues from our President that it’s cool to emulate the hate, whether they understand it or not, we’re likely going to see the trickle down effect of this new line of ‘Democrats aren’t people’ bullshit in the coming weeks. Unless there’s some rather drastic backpedaling (and sadly, this is far too consistent with Republicans’ general contempt for Dems to expect that), this attitude will filter down post-haste.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:21:58am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BTW, this event is invitation only.

Well of course. He wants to only speak to his followers. Big tough Donny Trump. Pfft.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:22:05am

Kurdish media:

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:22:24am

re: #305 ObserverArt

What the hell. So, Trump’s legal team is more or less shutting up any statements.

Yeah, this looks good to the people interested in knowing if there is some kind of coverup.

King: What is your legal basis for not answering the question?
Coates: Not sure I have a legal basis.

King to Admiral Rogers: Why not answer the questions?

Rogers: “I feel it is inappropriate, senator”
King: “What you FEEL isn’t relevant, admiral”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:23:25am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

.@EricTrump said his father is “a great man” who “already has done a great job” for the United States. #Hannity pic.twitter.com

— Fox News

Ah, well, there ya go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:23:25am

barf

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:23:58am

re: #330 blueraven

King: What is your legal basis for not answering the question?
Coates: Not sure I have a legal basis.

King to Admiral Rogers: Why not answer the questions?

Rogers: “I feel it is inappropriate, senator”
King: “What you FEEL isn’t relevant, admiral”

“Fuck your feelings.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:23:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:24:20am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kurdish media:

As in against Qatar or in defense of it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:24:59am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

As in against Qatar or in defense of it?

in defense of

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:25:28am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

As in against Qatar or in defense of it?

AFAIK, Turkey is supporting Qatar.

This is gonna drive up oil prices, which is good for Donnie’s cronies, both Russian and domestic…

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:26:20am

re: #305 ObserverArt

What the hell. So, Trump’s legal team is more or less shutting up any statements.

Yeah, this looks good to the people interested in knowing if there is some kind of coverup.

It sounds like Rogers and Coats are only willing to make those statements in closed sessions. I’m not sure why, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:26:57am
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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:27:09am
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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:28:02am

re: #330 blueraven

King: What is your legal basis for not answering the question?
Coates: Not sure I have a legal basis.

King to Admiral Rogers: Why not answer the questions?

Rogers: “I feel it is inappropriate, senator”
King: “What you FEEL isn’t relevant, admiral”

In a sane world, they’d be held in contempt of Congress and the House Judiciary Committee would at least talk about scheduling a hearing on impeachment.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:28:21am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

WATCH LIVE: Pres. Trump gives remarks on rebuilding America’s infrastructure during visit to Cincinnati, Ohio cbsnews.com pic.twitter.com

— CBS News

Rebuilding America’s infrastructure? What kind of loony leftist George Soros commy crap is this?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:28:31am

*thud*

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:29:00am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

*thud*

Most electoral college wins since Howard Taft.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:29:13am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

that response forgot “tremendous” and “beautiful” and “like nothing you’ve ever seen”

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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:29:21am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Rebuilding America’s infrastructure? What kind of loony leftist George Soros commy crap is this?

/

You’d think he’d be discussing how much we all will enjoy the toll roads…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:29:43am

jeebus, it takes longer than that to complete an interstate highway project.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:30:04am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

The entire pig-fucking Republican Party is on record as preferring to see Obama fail than to see American succeed. So this little Nazi can take his crybaby attitude, polish it up, turn it sideways, and cram it up his ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:30:05am

re: #340 darthstar

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This is even better, and it’s 100% totally NSFW so it’s in a spoiler tag.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:30:47am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump says it’ll no longer take “14 years” to build highways, bridges, infrastructure.

— Jason Williams

Wow, who’s gonna pay for all this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:31:03am

jeebus

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:31:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:32:14am

I’m 90 miles upriver and can still smell the bullshit

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:32:45am

re: #350 Sir John Barron

Wow, who’s gonna pay for all this?

Wait, sorry, I keep forgetting—all DJT does is declare things, and they happen or don’t happen. Like the Saudi missile “deal”. Words don’t mean anything.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:33:32am

re: #350 Sir John Barron

Wow, who’s gonna pay for all this?

He’s got a guy, can get a great deal on a loan from a Russian bank.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:34:03am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:34:35am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Like good ol’ Don in Indianapolis: “I don’t want to make money; I just love selling guns.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:34:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:34:45am

re: #350 Sir John Barron

Wow, who’s gonna pay for all this?

MEXICO!!!

Haha suckers.

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:34:50am

re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

AFAIK, Turkey is supporting Qatar.

This is gonna drive up oil prices, which is good for Donnie’s cronies, both Russian and domestic…

Oh, and just to make things even MORE fun in the region, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard came out with a statement blaming Saudi Arabia for the Teheran attacks. Apparently, it’s a standard meme in Iran (true or not - WTH knows?) that KSA is supporting ISIL (doubtful) as part of an obsessive anti-Iranian “coalition” (certainly true).
Good times: glad we have a well-staffed and experienced State Department to deal with crises, and possibly help smooth things over. Oh, wait….

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Bass Reeves  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:35:18am

re: #341 KGxvi

This was kind of weird for me. They stated in the beginning that they would feel more comfortable answering questions to the oversight committee in a closed hearing.

Also, the demand to put in writing some language that would say Mueller could never be fired seemed, unusual? When the response that Senator Harris wouldn’t accept was “Congress has said they don’t want special prosecutors to have complete freedom, so I can’t give Mueller complete freedom”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:35:57am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have never seen anyone else pucker up their little rosebud lips and make a little circle while talking with their mouth hole like Donald.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:35:59am

And this is what Trump & Ryan & McConnell’s plan for all of us looks like:

Economic growth predictions were wrong
In 2012, Brownback pushed through aggressive tax cuts very similar to what Trump wants Congress to do. The state increased the standard deduction and lowered taxes on corporations, individuals, and owner-operated businesses. Like Trump, Brownback insisted that the cuts would unleash so much economic growth that the government would make up the lost revenue. The cuts were supposed to give the economy “a shot of adrenaline,” as Brownback put it at the time.

Instead, the Kansas economy tanked.

Vox has more: Kansas Republicans end the state’s failed tax-reform experiment

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:05am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

Wait, sorry, I keep forgetting—all DJT does is declare things, and they happen or don’t happen. Like the Saudi missile “deal”. Words don’t mean anything.

Yes, of course, what matters is in his heart, not in what he says, does or tweets!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:17am
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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:18am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unfortunately, all those jobs will be in the military as the world burns.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:37am

Trump couldn’t help himself…had to point out the prop.

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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:55am

re: #352 darthstar

That is the look of someone who has conducted a lot of either cross-examinations or depositions. Also a billion percent relateable.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:36:59am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cool. No more listening to God.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:37:42am

re: #360 Jay C

Oh, and just to make things even MORE fun in the region, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard came out with a statement blaming Saudi Arabia for the Teheran attacks. Apparently, it’s a standard meme in Iran (true or not - WTH knows?) that KSA is supporting ISIL (doubtful) as part of an obsessive anti-Iranian “coalition” (certainly true).
Good times: glad we have a well-staffed and experienced State Department to deal with crises, and possibly help smooth things over. Oh, wait….

In some fairness to the Iranians, there’s very likely individuals within the KSA who are giving financial support to ISIS, though I’d be genuinely shocked if it were some kind of official position of the KSA’s government (covert or otherwise).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:37:50am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL…this is just sad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:38:30am

What it looks like when Trump speaks:

What it sounds like when Trump speaks:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:38:31am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not wrong if Trump’s followers believe it.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:38:59am

fuck off donnie, and I say that as registered republican in eastern Kentucky

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:39:02am

Noel Gallagher is a cranky bastard, but he quietly did a very nice thing here.

NME reports that Oasis’ Noel Gallagher is donating royalties from his 1996 single “Don’t Look Back in Anger” to the Manchester Fund, which is dedicated to victims of last month’s bombing at Ariana Grande’s concert. A representative for Gallagher confirmed the news to Pitchfork. The gesture was revealed by Radio X host Gordon Smart, who was defending Noel after he called his brother Liam a “sad fuck” for not contributing to the cause.

“I don’t think this is public knowledge because I’m sure he would never mentioned it, but I found out today that as soon as ‘Don’t Look Back in Anger’ started to appear spontaneously at the vigils, he made sure all the royalties went to the families,” Smart said.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:39:32am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah but if you multiply 49 bill by 87 cubed squared then you get eleventy trillions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:39:47am

*blink*

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:40:09am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

fuck off donnie, and I say that as registered republican in eastern Kentucky

Which party controls congress and the white house?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:40:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:40:45am
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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:41:27am

re: #361 Bass Reeves

My contempt statement is just based off of what I’ve seen here. I haven’t watched the hearings. It’s probably not contempt if the position is “we would be better served discussing this in a closed session”. I’d prefer this all come out in open hearings, but given the Mueller investigation, I’m guessing we won’t see a lot of stuff up front, at least not at first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:41:36am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:42:21am

re: #261 Teukka

I think it boils down to, not as much as not caring, to something being seriously amiss in in the science on which early detection and prevention is based on.

Yes. But, This quote from the former supervisor of the case workers is horrifying. This is as terrifying as the abuse.

The former supervisor, who was accused of shredding some reports of child abuse that were made to the agency, also expressed little sympathy for the plight of the two young girls.

“They’re used to living that way so what’s the big deal?” she was quoted as saying in the grand jury report.

I seriously question this woman’s mental stability, too. You’re a social worker, you know this is the wrong answer. The perpetrators of the abuse also seem to have serious mental instabilities and seem to been abused themselves, the social worker is just evil.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:42:36am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

Awesome. How come Obama couldn’t just talk to the Saudis and get this done?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:42:47am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:43:34am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

He doesn’t mean the royal “we”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:43:39am

Up early for work tomorrow, so gonna call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:43:53am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:45:19am

re: #264 sagehen

The problem here is more likely related to understaffing at the agencies that are supposed to do something.

No. In this case, the supervisor literally stated that she didn’t care and the children didn’t know that they were living a horror story

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:46:10am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:48:40am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:49:48am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No! Not Papa Titus! :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:50:26am
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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:50:36am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

WOW! That whole picture. Click on it. Really. That’s something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:51:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:52:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:52:24am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:53:11am

Such an embarrassment.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:53:56am

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, what’s wrong with that? That was his job. To be loyal to our president. We all should be loyal to our king.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:54:03am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:55:54am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

Well, what’s wrong with that? That was his job. To be loyal to our president. We all should be loyal to our king.

For those who aren’t:

Heads, spikes, walls

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:56:28am

Brent Spence is the aging decrepit I-75 bridge that is dropping chucks of concrete all over the place.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:56:48am

re: #400 jaunte

Fake polls failing Quinnipiac.

/

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:57:03am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kinda like how the GOP was behind Obama and his infrastructure/stimulus spending at the beginning of his 1st term?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:57:34am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:57:38am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:58:52am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:59:33am

Is he done?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 10:59:48am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brent Spence is the aging decrepit I-75 bridge that is dropping chucks of concrete all over the place.

By “rebuild our infrastructure” DJT didn’t mean “actually rebuild our infrastructure.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:00:07am
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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:00:46am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:01:02am

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

How much hair product does this little buttsack & his brother use up in a week?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:01:11am

re: #408 Stanley Sea

Is he done?

in our dreams.

oh, you mean the Ohio River speech.
yeah, that’s finished.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:06:32am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

I have never seen anyone else pucker up their little rosebud lips and make a little circle while talking with their mouth hole like Donald.

That is what happens when an orifice not for the intended use is used to spew shit. It turns to a natural state.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:06:36am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

I have never seen anyone else pucker up their little rosebud lips and make a little circle while talking with their mouth hole like Donald.

It’s the ‘tell’ that he’s about to shit on some one.

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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:02am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The AHCA may come up for a vote as a way to get it off the calendar so they can move on to something else, win or lose. If they pass it, it presumably will look nothing like the House bill so there will have to be more time sucked up in trying to come to an agreement on it. I think they are desperately trying to get rid of this turkey. Of course, everything else up for discussion also suffers from being ill defined and unpopular, so I’m not sure they’ll get anywhere.

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:12am

re: #383 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yes. But, This quote from the former supervisor of the case workers is horrifying. This is as terrifying as the abuse.

I seriously question this woman’s mental stability, too. You’re a social worker, you know this is the wrong answer. The perpetrators of the abuse also seem to have serious mental instabilities and seem to been abused themselves, the social worker is just evil.

I read thru the full text of the Special Grand Jury report linked to in #279 ( well worth while) - and the woman whose quote that was (the Child Protective Services director - since fired) was obviously and blatantly the source of a LOT of the Area’s social-services dysfunction. She apparently lost out on getting the general Director’s job, and seems to have taken it out on everybody for the rest of her tenure. And did so in the classic (if not stereotypical) Bad Bureaucrat manner: ignoring/dismissing her superior’s concerns (where they existed: not often, apparently); bullying subordinates, ignoring or bypassing administrative controls where inconvenient (usually), letting her prejudices run her job, and manipulating what control procedures existed to cover up her mistakes. Coupled with an apparently near-total lack of oversight (or even interest) from the officials nominally in charge, it’s no wonder abuses existed. Thankfully - assuming the SGJ recommendations are enacted and enforced - the problems have been “solved”. Maybe.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:17am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief…

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A coal barge that is not going anywhere. Great metaphor for coal!

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:08:29am

Watching a fresh documentary by swedish television, “Drottninggatan 14:53”, about the 4/7 attack.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:13:17am

Well oiled machine.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:15:37am

re: #381 KGxvi

My contempt statement is just based off of what I’ve seen here. I haven’t watched the hearings. It’s probably not contempt if the position is “we would be better served discussing this in a closed session”. I’d prefer this all come out in open hearings, but given the Mueller investigation, I’m guessing we won’t see a lot of stuff up front, at least not at first.

If then. The general gist that I got from watching was they first had to clear their answers with both the W.H. Counsel and Mueller. If either said no, then they wouldn’t be answering the questions.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:25:12am

re: #398 Stanley Sea

Such an embarrassment.

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I truly can’t stand to watch/hear him speak. Even just following the tweets (and thanks to all providing them) is making me sick to my stomach.

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jeffreyw  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:51:49am

re: #323 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is that your blue(boysen?)berry syrup?

Yep, we have a single blueberry bush that we beat the birdies to this year:

Imgur

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CleverToad  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:55:52am

re: #282 wrenchwench

Damn two year olds.

There was a girl sitting with many toys around her at ‘my coffee shop’. I admired two stuffed kittens, skritched them, and asked, ‘They won’t run away, will they?’ She said, ‘They’re pretend cats.’

It’s something when the two year olds see a need to educate the elders. And do it.

My son at three would sometimes inform me that his sidekick/substitute sibling/partner in crime couldn’t really talk because he was only a stuffed monkey. Then within an hour would insist in indignant sincerity that HE wasn’t responsible for whatever minor mayhem I was chiding him for, because “It wasn’t me, Junior Junior did it!”

Real is what you believe at the moment.
(It’s charming when toddlers do it. Not so much for alleged grown-ups.).

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:55:27pm

re: #411 jaunte

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If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about! They told us about the Patriot act.


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