Seth takes a closer look at how President Trump has spent the last week showing the nation who he really is in the wake of white supremacist violence in Charlottesville.
Report this asshole:
Yeah i know, “Too soon, man, too soon!” pic.twitter.com/nhHqEMeUzb
— Lord Man Hammer (@DirkKafir) August 14, 2017
Reposted from downstairs.
re: #129 bratwurst
Good laugh before bedtime thread:
[Embedded content]
Anyone who is a UHF fan will appreciate this. pic.twitter.com/brBSEL6Ccw
— Myron Falwell™ 😺 (@myronfalwell) August 17, 2017
Like our own President Trump?
— دانیال (@danja84) August 17, 2017
YOU ARE WHITE-KNIGHTING PEOPLE WHO WERE PLANNING TO REENACT KRYSTALLNACHT AS SOON AS THE OFFICIAL RALLY ENDED!
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) August 17, 2017
And yeah, in hindsight, that should have been “Kristallnacht”…
re: #5 Chrysicat
Hey dumbfuck. pic.twitter.com/1xuTGbICOh
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
In the video:
Watch Trump’s face when he claims to have a house in Charlottesville, is asked by a reporter if it’s at the winery, and has to back up and correct that “it’s the winery.”
He’s visibly irritated at being corrected and having to go back and fix his statement.
re: #6 teleskiguy
Yeah, that cartoon went right over your head, because you have shit for brains. Private businesses have no obligation to host fascists.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
re: #8 teleskiguy
If those opinions include ethnic cleansing and genocide then yes, they need to be shut the fuck down. You’re a stupid asshole.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
AP did good today announcing their new policy not to use Alt-right unless quoting someone.
CNN tho…
“White rights activist”
I quit. pic.twitter.com/FDpGY3W9ZU— Jack Runyan (@JackDRunyan) August 17, 2017
Nope.
re: #9 teleskiguy
Mr. My Little Pony is a Nazi.
Wow.
“Jews need to be exterminated!”
Totally a cool thing to say as long as you don’t act on it.
You’re a stupid Nazi asshole. DIAF— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
re: #10 JordanRules
“AP did good today announcing their new policy not to use Alt-right unless quoting someone.”
I read that Spencer plans to sue the U of F and Texas A&M for not allowing him and his buddies access to their campuses.
re: #10 JordanRules
AP did good today announcing their new policy not to use Alt-right unless quoting someone.
CNN tho…
[Embedded content]
Nope.
“White right activist…” my iPhone nearly imploded on itself.
PLEASE tell me they aren’t using that term on the main channel.
a member of clergy in charlottesville, committed to pacifism, describes the moment he changed his mind on antifa pic.twitter.com/yil1K2QOjp
— solarplex (@make_ready) August 16, 2017
re: #12 majii
Yep. Exploiting the system while tearing it down.
Why wouldn’t they continue trying to legally codify their hate reflexes when we continue to affirm that it works.
re: #13 Myron Falwell
That normalization language is just dancing around casually and dangerously.
I hate Nazi fucks that have My Little Pony avatars.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
Discostan’s Founder Followed Her Love of Sufi Spiritual Music All the Way to #Pakistan https://t.co/HIH2ogkYcG
— Alex Shams (@seyyedreza) August 17, 2017
What we groove to here in Pakistan. cc: @diaahadid
Great recordings by @_discostan_ h/t @danja84 https://t.co/mS9YpnpfMi— Bina Shah (@BinaShah) August 17, 2017
re: #9 teleskiguy
It’s a damn shame you have to lay basic humanity arguments out there. It’s crazy. We should be able to assume that and move on to debating how to achieve compromises that still push us forward.
Fleeing for the exits but the doors are barricaded shut
Trump’s crisis spurs talk of White House departures | Article [AMP] | Reuters https://t.co/pQ9kgOlWA6
— (((DuneMyThang™))) (@Kris_Sacrebleu) August 17, 2017
If you thought today was crazy, tomorrow is set up to be much crazier. https://t.co/YeKKNnJzOW
— Elliott Lusztig (@ezlusztig) August 17, 2017
I hate Da’esh so much for stealing the adolescence and childhood of these kids
“On the streets of Europe, we meet teenage boys
trained by IS.” https://t.co/4l7WAqHERP— Alex Shams (@seyyedreza) August 17, 2017
Hypothesis: People comment less on the User Pages now because the images make us subconsciously treat them like ads.
Blazing Saddles has harsher social commentary on white supremacy than current POTUS.
— Raychelle Burks (@DrRubidium) August 16, 2017
re: #22 goddamnedfrank
Was it not proposed by some that the rise of twitter and instagram and Facebook would make blogs obsolete?
Since so many comment sections on blogs and media outlets turned to trash, before moderation, and then after moderation either got small or the commenting sections were turned off, it is kind of unusual to find a place like LGF.
Also, communicating with a wider set of people outside here, I find that many people are a bit overwhelmed if I write more than a sentence or two.
Too much information, or too long of a discourse, just turns them off.
re: #20 Myron Falwell
Now, frustrated aides could be next. Trump’s remarks have left some wondering if sticking by the president comes at too high a cost to their reputations.
As if associating with Trump in the first place didn’t cost them their reputation among decent folk.
re: #6 teleskiguy
@SuperAppleDash has memory-holed this entire conversation. Melty snowflake is melty.
Gen. Robert E. Lee’s family has condemned last weekend’s violence in Charlottesville, VA https://t.co/ptth5DHAfF
— CNN (@CNN) August 17, 2017
Wow RINOs! https://t.co/TbgyR7m8V4
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
re: #26 teleskiguy
@SuperAppleDash has memory-holed this entire conversation. Melty snowflake is melty.
I saw that.
re: #25 freetoken
As if associating with Trump in the first place didn’t cost them their reputation among decent folk.
They were all the cute girl next door who thinks she can corral a juvenile delinquent and make him change his ways.
Or they only cared about career advancement, and are coming to the conclusion that this is now totally unpossible, so hastily argue about “reputation.”
No sympathy for them, but guys getting fired from pizza chains and supermarkets jobs for attending a political rally is a little unnerving pic.twitter.com/YcFMWa2J0R
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 16, 2017
“Unnerving” is knowing tons of ppl like this in this country want you dead. And you talking bout some damn pizza. Whitest tweet ever. https://t.co/y4ebnxgzAH
— Larry Beyince (@DragonflyJonez) August 16, 2017
Probably a Milo fan
I feel so bad for him but…. pic.twitter.com/xxwMHPtylZ
— pickle rick 🥒 (@VlRGO) August 14, 2017
Bingo
Here’s what I say: I dont feel as sympathetic that he got beat for being the individual he is, but it’s WHY he got beat up that I feel bad+
— Danny Neyman (@danneyman057) August 15, 2017
re: #30 JordanRules
The best thing Vice News ever did (up until their expose on the Charlottesville Nazi rally) was fire Mike Tracey. Moron.
There are many great Americans, many of them New Yorkers worthy of a spot in this great hall. These two confederates are not among them.
— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) August 17, 2017
Yesss!
Nazi loves to invoke Muslims when it’s not even relevant:
128 people killed in vehicle attacks by #ReligionofPeace since 2014. One assclown runs over a protestor: OMG white people are the worst!
— René Marquardt (@KAR98_DFW) August 16, 2017
And here’s an obvious anti-Semitic screed by one of her South African fans who admires Hitler, from her FB page nonetheless pic.twitter.com/HLtByMv5Ni
— دانیال (@danja84) August 17, 2017
Here’s a thread with great pics from Philly earlier today (or Wednesday as most of your timezones demand.
#PhillyIsCharlottesville pic.twitter.com/wWmIBTurcT
— Nyasha Junior (@NyashaJunior) August 16, 2017
re: #30 JordanRules
[Embedded content]
I can see outed and persecuted Nazis and bigots setting up their own white power pizza joints and such. More effort will be put into formalizing the existing networks of white power businesses. There is plenty of precedent: A lot of churches already do this, with “members only” lists of “Christian” businesses.
They cannot refuse business from Jews or non-whites, of course, but they can post that they are “inclusive” of the oppressed white freedom fighters and do not discriminate in employment on the basis of hate, insanity, or treasonous rhetoric.
re: #30 JordanRules
No boss wants an employee who might drag the company into a liability situation. And white supremacy ranks pretty high on the “will probably do something stupid resulting in a lawsuit” scale.
If it were my business and I found an employee attending WS meetings and events:
I could not trust them to handle customers as a salesperson or representative;
I could not trust them to make food or handle food;
I could not trust them to handle money or sensitive information, or administer care;
I could not trust them to be consistent in their workmanship or care of purchased goods;
…because it is inevitable that someone using my services will fall into a group that they act out against. They might not do anything another shitty employee might do…but the “ideology” they espouse guarantees that shittiness will out.
And that is before the problem of damage to reputation and loss of traffic because my target consumers also can’t trust the white supremacist.
That’s the consequence of not just especially stupid behavior in public, but belonging to a group that deliberately engages in pageantry to express the scale and whim inherent in their contempt.
Two prison guards who are active KKK members have been arrested in Florida after conspiring to kill a black inmate.
— AJ+ (@ajplus) August 16, 2017
How do I post that emoji of two eyes? Jesus. Trump will pardon them with Joe Arpaio. https://t.co/xiBEcfVYpq
— Shannyn Moore (@shannynmoore) August 17, 2017
re: #40 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Hell, they do that now and they loophole the law excessively. They do it with distinct advantages built in the jurisprudence process. And even when they lose in court, they win in promoting their dichotomy of ‘Gov’t is bad —-> but it should exist to enrich only me’.
re: #41 The Ghost of a Flea
Unless you are one of them, then the risk is worth it. And don’t rely on this to be a cold business calculation because it so often isn’t. Plenty in the employer class are the people who still benefit from the economic trickle down of our racist history and policies and it’s coupled with the freshly churned culture wars. Flammable.
Then, of course, you have the stripped down economic positions for both parties and you’re continually confronted with how many folks will vote against their well-being. And how many folks will cover for them.
re: #44 JordanRules
All true.
I was looking at it strictly in terms of contradicting Tracey’s notion that is was somehow unreasonable to fire a WS from certain kinds of jobs (pizza making)…implicitly because the job and the politics don’t intersect.
re: #45 The Ghost of a Flea
Yep, makes great sense and you spelled it out very well. Tracey is a clown, also too!
re: #38 JordanRules
I feel the same way. I went through that mess in the 1950s, 1960s, and early 1970s, and I don’t plan to be bothered with it again.
Pauline Hanson is trending worldwide on Twitter.
Apparently she showed up in a burqa in the Australian Senate.
George Brandis attacks Pauline Hanson’s ‘appalling’ burqa stunt - video
Getting back to the Lost Cause - I think the only thing worse than the Lost Causers themselves are others who seem to think the Lost Causers have some sort of validity for this or that sentimental reason.
The Confederacy just needs to die. Totally. Completely. Without reservation. It was never anything other than a bad idea, for ignoble purposes.
re: #51 freetoken
The Confederacy just needs to die. Totally. Completely. Without reservation. It was never anything other than a bad idea, for ignoble purposes.
Lincoln was murdered in public, and that moment is still memorialized by white supremacists today.
re: #49 freetoken
Pauline Hanson is trending worldwide on Twitter.
Apparently she showed up in a burqa in the Australian Senate.
George Brandis attacks Pauline Hanson’s ‘appalling’ burqa stunt - video
And per my list in the last thread, this farcical government continues to plumb new depths.
FYI, our current PM is our 6th PM in a 10 yr span.
Incredible scenes at the fall of Richmond, the Confederate capitol. pic.twitter.com/EySJVj8D4u
— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) June 25, 2017
What southern generals thought of the Civil War right at its end. Read the end of ‘Battle Cry Of Freedom.’ https://t.co/dLOK9nIgSq
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
I had to do 20 days in jail for a DUI in Routt County, Colorado. My pops showed up on day two of my incarceration and gave me one book, Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson. I read the thousand page tome in jail. If you haven’t read it, read it!
Speaking of One Nation, in a Canberra Times article yesterday:
Trump administration lists Pauline Hanson’s One Nation a threat to religious freedom
The Trump administration has listed Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party as a threat to religious freedom in a new report released in Washington.
[…]
How ironic.
But I’m not sure the Canberra Times writer has it correct.
The actual State Department report, the section on Australia, is here:
While One Nation is indeed mentioned 3 times, the statements about it are mere observations. There is no condemnation in that summary.
re: #54 ozharas
And per my list in the last thread, this farcical government continues to plumb new depths.
FYI, our current PM is our 6th PM in a 10 yr span.
Well, Italy is also on their 6th in 10 years. You may take the crown from them if you flip to 7.
I consider ‘Battle Cry of Freedom’ by James McPherson one of the most important books I’ve ever read.
re: #57 freetoken
Well, Italy is also on their 6th in 10 years. You may take the crown from them if you flip to 7.
I can’t see our current PM or this government lasting till Christmas - he will be rolled by his own party or there will be a constitutional crisis with all these dual citizens and the Governer General will have to intervene - Australia for the win!!
re: #54 ozharas
And per my list in the last thread, this farcical government continues to plumb new depths.
FYI, our current PM is our 6th PM in a 10 yr span.
And as I live in Qld - have I sent her an email as to what I think of her latest display of hate - and she doesn’t represent the view of a majority of Qld people. I cringe when I think that she got elected. I have only one friend who admits to voting for her & I am sad about how we rarely see him any more - but this seems to be the age of “political viewpoints have consequences”.
On other Oz government issues I have to admit to laughing about the issues surrounding dual citizenship. I would suspect too many of our politicians are like trump and have no idea what is in the constitution - other than Sect 51 - which is the only part of it I can remember learning about at school. Julie Bishop’s reaction was heading into insane territory, I fear they read too many trump tweets.
SSM - truly farcical in their actions - let’s have a vote - but not run by the electoral commission - which I thought runs all elections/votes - and if the answer is yes - well it’s not binding, and if the answer is no - that proves we do not want it in this country.
You’re at fault for this horrible predicament, you fucking communist jackass. You and your purity tests have resulted in UltraRight America.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2017
White meathead fucks are all giddy about how they are accepted among online folks. They love how they are being *accepted* in the age of Fuckface Von Colownstick. And “normies” are all like ‘Okay, we can’t discount these folks.’
This is happening even here among the LGF folks.
re: #61 teleskiguy
He’s no communist. He’s a phoney ratfucker, like Michael Tracey & Glenn Greenwald.
re: #64 Pineapple Pizzagate
David Sirota is a fucking Communist and should be shunned at the highest levels because he’s a fucking ratfucker.
re: #64 Pineapple Pizzagate
Are you telling me that ratfucker David Sirota isn’t a fucking piece of shit?!?
David Sirota is a communist piece of shit that needs to shut the fuck up. He won’t, of course. Still, if anybody takes his advice they need to be ready to be ridiculed and shunned because David Sirota is a fucking horrible human being.
Hey guys, what’s going on in he…
*slowly backs away*
re: #64 Pineapple Pizzagate
He’s a phoney ratfucker, like Michael Tracey & Glenn Greenwald.
So, are Michael and Glenn different than David? It would appear that he’s *above* these assholes. Explain. Define your terms.
re: #66 teleskiguy
David Sirota is a fucking horrible human being, but calling him a communist is giving him too much credit.
re: #70 Pineapple Pizzagate
David Sirota is a fucking horrible human being, but calling him a communist is giving him too much credit.
Huh?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Calling David Sirota a Communist - I think - diminishes his status as the far-left’s hero.
What the fuck are you talking about?!?
re: #65 teleskiguy
David Sirota is a fucking Communist and should be shunned at the highest levels because he’s a fucking ratfucker.
Per your prior request, you should know that your raving about Sirota being a communist is an instance where you’re going off the rails.
re: #72 EPR-radar
You don’t think David is a ratfucking Communist?
re: #71 teleskiguy
Calling David Sirota a Communist - I think - diminishes his status as the far-left’s hero.
The farthest fringes of the left fancy themselves as communists. Calling him a communist is therefore both A.) Not incredibly instructive, and B.) legitimizing to that audience.
re: #73 teleskiguy
You don’t think David is a ratfucking Communist?
I haven’t the foggiest idea whether or not this is true because no evidence or argument has been presented.
On its face, it seems most unlikely because almost nobody in US public life is a real communist, despite RWNJs calling anyone to the left of Adolf Hitler a communist.
re: #69 teleskiguy
No, all three are terrible. I don’t think any of them are honestly that far to the “left”, though they pretend to be.
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
The farthest fringes of the left fancy themselves as communists. Calling him a communist is therefore both A.) Not incredibly instructive, and B.) legitimizing to that audience.
He’s not mainstream, and shouldn’t be treated as such. Unfortunately - especially on social media - he is mainstream, and Bernie Sanders would have won! etc. etc. etc.
Fuck the far left.
Looks like Steven Bannon’s “off-the-record” (or so he claims he thought it was) interview with American Prospect’s Robert Kuttner is making the news.
Either this is some clever distraction by Bannon or he was:
a) drunk
b) stupid
c) possibly both
In a fascinating interview with the American Prospect on Wednesday Steve Bannon called white nationalists “a collection of clowns,” undercut the White House position on North Korea and argued he wants the left to “talk about racism everyday.” But according to a report by Axios, the president’s chief counselor thought that interview was off the record.
Axios reports Bannon told associates he didn’t intend to be interviewed by the American Prospect’s Robert Kuttner, and did not believe the reporter would write a story with his quotes.
“Since Steve apparently enjoys casually undermining U.S. national security, I’ll put this in terms he’ll understand: This is DEFCON 1-level bad,” a colleague of Bannon’s told Axios.
“What will Kelly do when he sees this?” another colleague asked, referring to new chief of staff Gen. John Kelly, who was brought on to bring order to Donald Trump’s chaotic White House.
re: #76 Pineapple Pizzagate
I don’t think any of them are honestly that far to the “left”.
You’re right about that. They’re more aligned with their own self interests, like Fuckface Von Clownstick.
P.S. The reason some in the far left id as communists is because they either think the word has some kind of historical shock value or because they think the term gives them some added credibility when it comes to criticizing the very real horrific abuses of modern capitalism. It’s also worth noting that both are strictly economic terms and by themselves do not describe a form of government, which brings us back to my earlier point about their limitations in instruction.
Pro-Trump Rally Set to Clash with Juggalo March in Washington, D.C. in September https://t.co/RWkZ1DFzQt pic.twitter.com/oL76BoAYvQ
— MetalSucks (@metalsucks) August 14, 2017
Dear Juggalos: For every MAGA hat you bring me, I will explain one of science’s strange inexplicable miracles to you. https://t.co/aWs0WPN7qF
— Alexandra Erin (@alexandraerin) August 16, 2017
Deadly combo: Police, rescue crews say overdosing addicts drive up number of car crashes. https://t.co/zsNuciGH1L pic.twitter.com/v2XkbyleqI
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 17, 2017
re: #78 Dr Lizardo
Looks like Steven Bannon’s “off-the-record” (or so he claims he thought it was) interview with American Prospect’s Robert Kuttner is making the news.
Either this is some clever distraction by Bannon or he was:
a) drunk
b) stupid
c) possibly both
I think the indication yesterday was that Bannon (just like his former nemesis, aka “The Mooch”) said a lot of shit without realizing he was being interviewed. I honestly can’t imagine a scenario where he and Kelly both remain on the White House payroll. Every indication prior to yesterday was that Wino Rove was already on the outs with El Jefe Naranjo, while Kelly seems to be increasingly frustrated with his inability to make a positive change in how things are being run.
re: #83 Targetpractice
I think the indication yesterday was that Bannon (just like his former nemesis, aka “The Mooch”) said a lot of shit without realizing he was being interviewed. I honestly can’t imagine a scenario where he and Kelly both remain on the White House payroll. Every indication prior to yesterday was that Wino Rove was already on the outs with El Jefe Naranjo, while Kelly seems to be increasingly frustrated with his inability to make a positive change in how things are being run.
I also think it certain that Kelly or Bannon won’t both stay for any length of time. Bannon’s main chance to stay in his current post would seem to be the threat that if he’s sacked he’d resume his prior position at Breitbart and unleash the Nazi howler monkeys vs. the tr*mp administration. That’s actually a powerful threat vs. The Yam, so I have no idea how this conflict will play out.
Even among the like-minded folks that I’ve dealt with, it’s still *fucked* every time I post something about race relations. I’ve *offended* someone or something, I’ve been *horrible, indecent, a piece of shit* over the hours…I guess I’m a fucking racist piece of shit because I call those who call out such horrible fuckery racist.
re: #83 Targetpractice
That just seems out-of-character for Bannon; he’s a media-savvy guy, and for him to assume automatically that an informal, free-wheeling chat with a reporter is somehow off-the-record seems, to me at least, shockingly naïve.
Then again, stranger things have certainly happened.
re: #87 Dr Lizardo
That just seems out-of-character for Bannon; he’s a media-savvy guy, and for him to assume automatically that an informal, free-wheeling chat with a reporter is somehow off-the-record seems, to me at least, shockingly naïve.
Then again, stranger things have certainly happened.
It is out of character for him, but then when people get overly confident, they’ll do a lot of shit that they wouldn’t have done otherwise.
re: #87 Dr Lizardo
That just seems out-of-character for Bannon; he’s a media-savvy guy, and for him to assume automatically that an informal, free-wheeling chat with a reporter is somehow off-the-record seems, to me at least, shockingly naïve.
Then again, stranger things have certainly happened.
That’s why I think it was deliberate, although I can’t imagine why Bannon would do this.
re: #85 teleskiguy
It’s nice to know the *whiteness* of LGF.
Ugh, I can’t sleep yet again. Charlottesville is in my mind so much, this week has been awful for me to sleep.
re: #92 EPR-radar
Jesus. Get a fucking grip.
Our narrow conduit is seen by white people. Do you disagree?
I wish it weren’t as such, but reality is a fuck of a mistress.
Black people see everything that’s posted here as suspect, with good reason. White people suck ass. And documentation is required for a fucking thing that is uttered by us white pieces of shit.
re: #92 EPR-radar
Jesus. Get a fucking grip.
Help me. Help me forget about this White Supremacist social media.
Leftists who comment here seem to hate their own.
Two term Donald! YAY!
re: #95 teleskiguy
Dude, you remember KT? Your “communist” freakout this morning sounds a lot like him with as little understanding of what a communist is as his generic “stabby rapey leftist”. Sirota has much to complaine about but he’s not a communist - not a trotskyist, maoist, stalinist,etc - and calling him so just makes you look foolish while helping him with people who could be your allies.
Now please just relax and let things calm down.
The week just keeps getting better on witnessing the implosion of fascist scum😂 U mad @faithgoldy @TRobinsonNewEra 😂😂https://t.co/uklQlaewV9
— دانیال (@danja84) August 17, 2017
Donald Trump will be elected to a second term. Because good humans will ignore everything in 2018. Those that are against Donald Trump will not vote because they are too narcissistic. I’m calling it. Our voting populace is too stupid to see what’s in front of their fuckin’ stupid eyes.
PASS ME SOME OF THAT DUMBASS!!!
*keels over dead*
re: #102 teleskiguy
Good grief. Drunk or weed laced with “Paranoia Sweet Destroia”? Whatever, go sleep it off, eh?
re: #99 teleskiguy
Leftists who comment here seem to hate their own.
Two term Donald! YAY!
JFC, will you get your fucking meds checked? It’s too early in this morning for this shit.
What’s the deal with RWNJ men crying? From Glenn Beck to Boehner, and now the neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell… At least the RWNJ women don’t tear up and blubber like toddlers missing their naptime.
re: #106 LastYearsMan
What’s the deal with RWNJ men crying? From Glenn Beck to Boehner, and now the neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell… At least the RWNJ women don’t tear up and blubber like toddlers missing their naptime.
Nazi barbie doll Faith Goldy was shedding crocodile tears.
Company responded:
We disagree this employee statement which does not reflect nor represent the values of our group. We are currently investigating on this.
— ARKEMA (@Arkema_group) August 17, 2017
I’m home. Still on European time though in my head.
re: #106 LastYearsMan
What’s the deal with RWNJ men crying? From Glenn Beck to Boehner, and now the neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell… At least the RWNJ women don’t tear up and blubber like toddlers missing their naptime.
It’s weird because they looks to portray themselves as macho men who would never dare do something like cry but they cry a lot- literally and figuratively.
It’s awake…
Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
…and people like Ms. Heyer. Such a disgusting lie. He just can’t forget his election trouncing.The people of South Carolina will remember!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
re: #111 Targetpractice
It’s awake…
[Embedded content]
I totally missed having a President that acts this way the past three weeks. // Seriously, what a fucking child.
Typical standard response. 🙄 He openly shows what a deplorable human being is through his FB open for public! He’s a liability you know? 🙄🙄
— دانیال (@danja84) August 17, 2017
re: #111 Targetpractice
It’s awake…
[Embedded content]
Is anyone in Congress frightened by Trump Tweets anymore?
re: #114 Barefoot Grin
Is anyone in Congress frightened by Trump Tweets anymore?
If anyone isn’t, it’s Lindsay since he’s had a target on his back from the nutjobs for a long time since he had the nerve to act like a human being discussing immigration.
I want to see the withheld pictures of Captain America at Charlottesville, in the crowd of Nazis, beating the shit out of them with his shield. Tragically unable to stop the car attack because of being held down by 6 Nazi goons, before he summons forth his will power and throws them the fuck off. DAMN do we need some superheroes right now.
brothersinarmsmemorial.org
Wanted to do a quick shoutout to a project I learned about touring the Flanders Fields battlefield.
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
The farthest fringes of the left fancy themselves as communists. Calling him a communist is therefore both A.) Not incredibly instructive, and B.) legitimizing to that audience.
Let me just step in here for a moment and channel Wolf Blitzer: “So you say David Sirota is a, if I can quote this correctly, a communist…uhm…rat fuck…uhm….er. Can you expand on that for the audience, please, the whole why you think Sirota, David Sirota is a uhm er…ratfucker…a communist Sirota ratfucker….if…please rat communist fuck….uh…fucker, please.”
Surreal.
Isolated, impotent, humiliated, self-destructive and an overblown sense of grievance pic.twitter.com/283d8H2oYN
— Evan Siegfried (@evansiegfried) August 17, 2017
re: #106 LastYearsMan
What’s the deal with RWNJ men crying? From Glenn Beck to Boehner, and now the neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell… At least the RWNJ women don’t tear up and blubber like toddlers missing their naptime.
Melissa Francis on Faux News was crying about something the other day, how come nobody could see the good in some of the Nazis, or something.
re: #120 Sir John Barron
Melissa Francis on Faux News was crying about something the other day, how come nobody could see the good in some of the Nazis, or something.
JFC.
It’s time for Democrats to start reaching out to business leaders and offer themselves up as the pro-business party. There’s nothing more that businesses hate more than instability and unpredictability. The fact that Republicans are not controlling this insanity by impeaching or invoking the 25th should be troubling to all business leaders.
re: #122 weave
It’s time for Democrats to start reaching out to business leaders and offer themselves up as the pro-business party. There’s nothing more that businesses hate more than instability and unpredictability. The fact that Republicans are not controlling this insanity by impeaching or invoking the 25th should be troubling to all business leaders.
I think what a lot on the far left don’t get is a lot of businesses do share some of our social liberalism which is why treating all businesses like money grubbing assholes is stupid.
Morning.
I am worried about Teleskiguy.
I don’t want to log in some day and read some awful bad news about him.
Trump really has been hard on America. It is evident on this forum.
re: #124 ObserverArt
Morning.
I am worried about Teleskiguy.
I don’t want to log in some day and read some awful bad news about him.
Trump really has been hard on America. It is evident on this forum.
Funny you should say that:
Americans flock to therapists amid ‘President Trump stress disorder’ https://t.co/XTDkWLYwOQ
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 17, 2017
re: #123 HappyWarrior
I think what a lot on the far left don’t get is a lot of businesses do share some of our social liberalism which is why treating all businesses like money grubbing assholes is stupid.
Are you back in the states Happy?
Regarding your comment, this is what Trump is doing to the country. Every damn thing now has to be gone through to see who supports what.
I always thought business was “liberal” by necessity. You are “open” for business because you want to sell to everyone.
I saw upthread someone thinking we may now see businesses listed as supportive of White Nationalism and they would hire people that are publically admitted racists.
What? I understand the thought by the LGF member. I do not understand a business that would make that decision.
Gee, I am old enough to remember when America was supposedly united after 9/11.
It really makes you wonder if that is really when we started to come apart. I do believe the event is directly responsible for what we have in politics today. Trump.
If we don’t get our shit together, we might as well admit the terrorists won.
re: #126 ObserverArt
Are you back in the states Happy?
Regarding your comment, this is what Trump is doing to the country. Every damn thing now has to be gone through to see who supports what.
I always thought business was “liberal” by necessity. You are “open” for business because you want to sell to everyone.
I saw upthread someone thinking we may now see businesses listed as supportive of White Nationalism and they would hire people that are publically admitted racists.
What? I understand the thought by the LGF member. I do not understand a business that would make that decision.
Gee, I am old enough to remember when America was supposedly united after 9/11.
It really makes you wonder if that is really when we started to come apart. I do believe the event is directly responsible for what we have in politics today. Trump.
If we don’t get our shit together, we might as well admit the terrorists won.
Yeah I just got home yesterday evening. Agree with you about Trump being responsible for much of the division.
re: #125 Targetpractice
Funny you should say that:
[Embedded content]
It is stressful and of course right wingers love to mock these people. BEcause you know, you’re a toal pussy if you worry about your friends and family. But somehow, it was perfectly fine to throw a shit fit over disposable coffee cups.
re: #102 teleskiguy
Donald Trump will be elected to a second term. Because good humans will ignore everything in 2018. Those that are against Donald Trump will not vote because they are too narcissistic. I’m calling it. Our voting populace is too stupid to see what’s in front of their fuckin’ stupid eyes.
If Trump is reelected, it will be because of widespread voter disenfranchisement; that’s certainly the reason he carried Wisconsin.
The term Communist has become quaint and meaningless. You are too young to understand what it really means. I grew up in a time when someone could lose a job based on this accusation and when there was real fear that we would lose the ideological battle to Communist Russia. The Vietnam war and all the death and destruction it caused arose because of this fear.
David Sirota is not a Communist. He and others need to be attacked as Trumpsters and be held accountable for Trump’s victory. They still believe that Bernie would have won; they need to be disabused of this notion. Of course, that may be a fool’s errand since they are blind followers of the Bernie cult. Perhaps he could be attacked as a Putinist since he is certainly in league with those who are damaging this country perhaps beyond repair.
Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
I wonder if he still has Lindsey’s phone #? https://t.co/B1uLz8WPvm
— D. E. Todd (@DaveoutofAustin) August 17, 2017
re: #111 Targetpractice
Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists……
— Donald J. Trump
Finally, we’ve moved on from Charlottesville and can back to what really matters, Trump himself.
/
Statue topic: Sigh. My wingnut SIL liked a posting on FB that showed a picture of the Egyptian pyramids with the caption of something like: “So when are you demanding the elimination of these monuments to a slave-holding society?”
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
They should definitely be eliminated in the U.S.
/
If the KKK was Democrat Party and racist how come it’s wingnuts who are upset when Confederate memorials to racism are taken down?
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
Statue topic: Sigh. My wingnut SIL liked a posting on FB that showed a picture of the Egyptian pyramids with the caption of something like: “So when are you demanding the elimination of these monuments to a slave-holding society?”
This is why political discussion via meme is so stupid.
re: #131 Dave In Austin
Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists……
— Donald J. Trump
It’s August. The GOP has the presidency and both houses of congress. Let us stop to consider all the ground-breaking legislation they have enacted….
Wait, I’ll think of something….
re: #135 Sir John Barron
They should definitely be eliminated in the U.S.
/
If the KKK was Democrat Party and racist how come it’s wingnuts who are upset when Confederate memorials to racism are taken down?
Exactly. Seriously, are we the heirs of white supremacist assholes or are we multiculturalists? At least a lot of the far right are hoenst about what they are as opposed to others on the right who do shit like that because they’re too chickenshit to admit their ideological bond with these people.
re: #135 Sir John Barron
They should definitely be eliminated in the U.S.
/
If the KKK was Democrat Party and racist how come it’s wingnuts who are upset when Confederate memorials to racism are taken down?
They’ll be Democrats again once you stop with the identity politics and get rid of the minorities and LGBT and return to male suffrage and…. ////
re: #139 HappyWarrior
Exactly. Seriously, are we the heirs of white supremacist assholes or are we multiculturalists? At least a lot of the far right are hoenst about what they are as opposed to others on the right who do shit like that because they’re too chickenshit to admit their ideological bond with these people.
Yeah I almost prefer the straight-up racists. At least they’re upfront about who they are.
re: #140 Barefoot Grin
They’ll be Democrats again once you stop with the identity politics and get rid of the minorities and LGBT and return to male suffrage and…. ////
“The DNC needs to move away from ‘identity politics’ and focus instead on all the things that matter to the ‘working class’ because only then can they identify with the DNC!”
re: #141 Sir John Barron
Yeah I almost prefer the straight-up racists. At least they’re upfront about who they are.
I mean with that other segment of the right, it’s frustrating because they do seem to know that the Nazis and KKK are bad but they either resort to false equivalencies (BLM and the KKK are the same!) or outright bullshit (American liberalism and Nazism are the same ideology!). The bastards only seem to hate Nazis and the KKK because it’s what they’ve been told to which wouldn’t be so bad if they didn’t insist on making the Nazis/KKK out to be the left simply because they hate the left just as much if not more but yeah I would love to see Jonah and Dinesh, who both have wrtiten stupid books calling Nazis, liberals to call actual Nazis, liberals and see the response.
re: #142 Targetpractice
“The DNC needs to move away from ‘identity politics’ and focus instead on all the things that matter to the ‘working class’ because only then can they identify with the DNC!”
The frustrating thing about that canard is that the Democratic Party has grown more progressive with time. In the 1930’s, our conservatives were men who supported legal lynching, in the 1960’s, they were defenders of Jim Crow. A Democratic conservative now? Perhaps someone like our own Mark Warner here in Va. The far left and bros don’t get it. The WWC in many cases turned on the left because the left started advocating that ALL regardless of skin color, gender, sexual orientation get the same rights they want. And it really pisses me off that Sanders gets away with that with so many people because he shouldn’t.
Oh, let it be so…
Longtime Trump business partner ‘told family he knows he and POTUS are going to prison’: report https://t.co/WwNpLSfFSa
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 17, 2017
re: #145 Targetpractice
Oh, let it be so…
[Embedded content]
I’d love to see Trump in an orange jumper.
When I heard “Alt-Left”, my immediate thought was “Bernie-Bro”. Anyone else get that vibe or was it just me?
re: #147 Dave In Austin
When I heard “Alt-Left”, my immediate thought was “Bernie-Bro”. Anyone else get that vibe or was it just me?
Yes.
Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Bannon gave a batcrap interview that he never said was off the record, and proceeded to give his exit interview.
The chaos in the White House is even too much for the saboteur Bannon. Guess his moment of clarity came when Trump was threatening nuclear holocaust with North Korea and Bannon’s now saying that they’re looking to tamp down the military bluster and try to find another way.
Trump’s not going to like that one bit.
In fact, Trump and his idiot lawyer were busy prepping the media landscape for the eventuality that Trump can’t be considered a traitor because Robert E Lee is just like George Washington.
Yes, if you missed the subtext there - Lee fought for the Southern insurrectionists to preserve the institution of slavery. That makes him a traitor to the United States of America. He fought against the Union. Trump’s clumsy attempts to try and equate Lee with the founding father George Washington is just another indication that Trump doesn’t see himself as a traitor or commiting treason/sedition by going to the Russians to get dirt on Clinton or ignoring Russian election manipulation so that he and the GOP can assume power.
The GOP continues to enable all of this, and the GOP leadership can’t find the spine to condemn Trump on his actions over the weekend, they certainly aren’t taking steps against Trump on anything else.
The GOP is complicit. They own this mess because Trump is the natural outgrowth of decades of feeding their core support nothing but hate and venom towards minorities and those less fortunate by claiming they’re all leaching off the government and their own backs, and that the path to prosperity is massive tax cuts for the rich that will gut the safety net that helps far more Americans than the GOP would ever admit to.
re: #144 HappyWarrior
The frustrating thing about that canard is that the Democratic Party has grown more progressive with time. In the 1930’s, our conservatives were men who supported legal lynching, in the 1960’s, they were defenders of Jim Crow. A Democratic conservative now? Perhaps someone like our own Mark Warner here in Va. The far left and bros don’t get it. The WWC in many cases turned on the left because the left started advocating that ALL regardless of skin color, gender, sexual orientation get the same rights they want. And it really pisses me off that Sanders gets away with that with so many people because he shouldn’t.
The reality is that a Dem presidential candidate has not won the majority of the white vote in decades. IIRC, the last time was Clinton in ‘92 and that was due to his being Governor of Arkansas at the time. When he won reelection 4 years later, they were back to voting for the name with the (R) next to it. The Bros largely have a problem with “identity politics” for one single reason: None of the selfish things they want appeal to minority voters in the numbers that they do to white voters. A black voter isn’t putting “free college/college debt forgiveness” or Latino voters clambering for “free health care.” And the things they do, white voters either don’t care about or actively oppose, such as amnesty for “illegals” or addressing racial inequality.
re: #138 Sir John Barron
It’s August. The GOP has the presidency and both houses of congress. Let us stop to consider all the ground-breaking legislation they have enacted….
Wait, I’ll think of something….
isnt it amazing that as an administration they are doing almost nothing at all on a day to day basis
theyre barely getting the doors open and the lights on each morning
theyre not organized, productive, or in control of anything - the agenda, the message, the staff
its disorganized incompetence
re: #151 Targetpractice
The reality is that a Dem presidential candidate has not won the majority of the white vote in decades. IIRC, the last time was Clinton in ‘92 and that was due to his being Governor of Arkansas at the time. When he won reelection 4 years later, they were back to voting for the name with the (R) next to it. The Bros largely have a problem with “identity politics” for one single reason: None of the selfish things they want appeal to minority voters in the numbers that they do to white voters. A black voter isn’t putting “free college/college debt forgiveness” or Latino voters clambering for “free health care.” And the things they do, white voters either don’t care about or actively oppose, such as amnesty for “illegals” or addressing racial inequality.
Exactly. The thing is and we’ve doiscused this before but they ignore that many of these white voters they want either don’t want those programs or if they do want them don’t want to share them with otehrs. And once again, the face of 21st century liberalism should not be 76 year old man from a lily white state. I really hope people drawn to Bernie in 2016 realize he’s a big show off by 2020 and we nominate someone far better equipped.
re: #142 Targetpractice
“The DNC needs to move away from ‘identity politics’ and focus instead on all the things that matter to the ‘working class’ because only then can they identify with the DNC!”
i have no problem with “the party of everyone”
Equal opportunity and equal protection - for everyone
Social and economic justice - for everyone
Human decency to everyone
re: #151 Targetpractice
The reality is that a Dem presidential candidate has not won the majority of the white vote in decades. IIRC, the last time was Clinton in ‘92 and that was due to his being Governor of Arkansas at the time. When he won reelection 4 years later, they were back to voting for the name with the (R) next to it. The Bros largely have a problem with “identity politics” for one single reason: None of the selfish things they want appeal to minority voters in the numbers that they do to white voters. A black voter isn’t putting “free college/college debt forgiveness” or Latino voters clambering for “free health care.” And the things they do, white voters either don’t care about or actively oppose, such as amnesty for “illegals” or addressing racial inequality.
Actually, Clinton did not win white voters in ‘92. It was close(2-3 percent) but he didn’t win them. Last Dem to win white voters was Johnson in ‘64- Civil Rights Act would change that.
FWIW, I think the only reason that Clinton was as close with white voters, is the impact of Ross Perot. Perot won about a fifth of the white vote.
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
Monuments to hate and bigotry. If you love them so much put them on your golf courses. https://t.co/2TFlD50bGX
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) August 17, 2017
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
Isn’t the current hypothesis that the Pyramids were actually built by builders, not slaves?
re: #156 Bubblehead II
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..
lets be clear. it is NOT “the history and culture of our great country”
it is the publicly displayed monuments to those that took up arms against and attacked our great country
re: #116 steve_davis
I want to see the withheld pictures of Captain America at Charlottesville, in the crowd of Nazis, beating the shit out of them with his shield. Tragically unable to stop the car attack because of being held down by 6 Nazi goons, before he summons forth his will power and throws them the fuck off. DAMN do we need some superheroes right now.
We have superheroes, but ours die if they get hit by a car.
re: #157 Apocalypse
Isn’t the current hypothesis that the Pyramids were actually built by builders, not slaves?
Yes. Recent scholarship suggests the people who worked on the pyramids were servants or workers, and not slaves.
re: #155 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Actually, Clinton did not win white voters in ‘92. It was close(2-3 percent) but he didn’t win them. Last Dem to win white voters was Johnson in ‘64- Civil Rights Act would change that.
FWIW, I think the only reason that Clinton was as close with white voters, is the impact of Ross Perot. Perot won about a fifth of the white vote.
Yep, when the dixiecrats couldn’t hold their filibuster in 64, Strom lead the march of the boll weevils. Soon Lee Atwater gave us the Southern Strategy and the rest….. well, you know the rest.
Oh, and good morning!
re: #158 dangerman
lets be clear. it is NOT “the history and culture of our great country”
it is the publicly displayed monuments to those that took up arms against and attacked our great country
…can’t change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who’s next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
Yep, I learned that Lee, Jackson and Jeff Davis were traitors who rebelled against the lawful Government of the United States. https://t.co/2wdLgQ4Vcz
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) August 17, 2017
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
Statue topic: Sigh. My wingnut SIL liked a posting on FB that showed a picture of the Egyptian pyramids with the caption of something like: “So when are you demanding the elimination of these monuments to a slave-holding society?”
Mother of false equivalencies.
…the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
They’ll only be missed by bigots/white nationalists like you. Again, If you love these damn things so much, put them on your golf courses https://t.co/KaYYx9VD1O
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) August 17, 2017
re: #160 wheat-dogg
Yes. Recent scholarship suggests the people who worked on the pyramids were servants or workers, and not slaves.
Paid in bread and beer. They had work crews with nicknames, like Drunkards of Menkaure.
re: #125 Targetpractice
During the Bush recession, my psychiatrist jokingly said that even though people in the medical field like dentists were losing their shirts, business was booming for him.
That being said, Trump doesn’t make me feel much in terms of despair. My problems are strictly biochemical, and it’s hard to feel despair when you feel absolutely nothing at all. Not even a nuclear war or the sweet meteor of death would change that.
That being said, anger is the one emotion that I do have, and I tend to save that for Donnie two-scoops.
re: #126 ObserverArt
…
I saw upthread someone thinking we may now see businesses listed as supportive of White Nationalism and they would hire people that are publically admitted racists.
What? I understand the thought by the LGF member. I do not understand a business that would make that decision.
….
Let me introduce you to the Lester Maddox Business Model. It cost him his restaurant, but made him governor of Georgia.
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
Statue topic: Sigh. My wingnut SIL liked a posting on FB that showed a picture of the Egyptian pyramids with the caption of something like: “So when are you demanding the elimination of these monuments to a slave-holding society?”
i guess when the discussion becomes what to do about “slave-holding societies”
right now the discussion is about recognition and monuments to those who attacked the united states - its not really even about why they did - it’s about *that* they did
re: #162 Bubblehead II
[Embedded content]
Difference between Lee and Washington. Lee took up arms against his country. Washington did not. You can give me the he considered himself more a Virginian than American all you want but he did commit treason and he got off very easy. He died a free man who did not spend a day in prison.
re: #167 Decatur Deb
Let me introduce you to the Lester Maddox Business Model. It cost him his restaurant, but made him governor of Georgia.
“He may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s OUR son-of-a-bitch.”
Frankly, where are the memorials here in Virginia to men like George Thomas. Men who chose their country. Sam Houston was another Southern Unionist. I believe we’ve discussed this before but a memorial to Southern Unionists needs to be built. These men and women were harassed and even murdered for opposing for the Confederate cause.
Fox News Host Eboni K. Williams on Receiving Death Threats After Segment Criticizing Trump
But, but, but both sides…..
re: #167 Decatur Deb
Let me introduce you to the Lester Maddox Business Model. It cost him his restaurant, but made him governor of Georgia.
I remember when Maddox was the American Independent Presidential candidate in 1976. He came to Pittsburgh attacking Jimmy Carter as “The tool of the Rockefeller Trilateral Commission”. Yes, the Christian Birchers who lived at that time in Wilkinsburg were ecstatic as they clapped and cheered…
re: #147 Dave In Austin
When I heard “Alt-Left”, my immediate thought was “Bernie-Bro”. Anyone else get that vibe or was it just me?
Bernie’s kids (not Bernie himself) are the near edge, perhaps. The Looney Left has always been out there in micro parties like the Worker’s World bunch. I don’t consider the old IWW looney, just nostalgic for a lost time.
(Note the Worker’s World Party is largely a North Korean front, tragically they suck in some of our young and bright.)
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Difference between Lee and Washington. Lee took up arms against his country. Washington did not. You can give me the he considered himself more a Virginian than American all you want but he did commit treason and he got off very easy. He died a free man who did not spend a day in prison.
they keep changing the narrative because they cant win with the original, obvious simple facts
re: #175 Decatur Deb
Bernie’s kids (not Bernie himself) are the near edge, perhaps. The Looney Left has always been out there in micro parties like the Worker’s World bunch. I don’t consider the old IWW looney, just nostalgic for a lost time.
(Note the Worker’s World Party is largely a North Korean front, tragically they suck in some of our young and bright.)
45 years ago I was getting ready to start college. Remember touring the Pitt campus and seeing all these Marxist splinter groups—reminded me of how various Christian sects would quibble over ridiculously insignificant issues…
re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹
45 years ago I was getting ready to start college. Remember touring the Pitt campus and seeing all these Marxist splinter groups—reminded me of how various Christian sects would quibble over ridiculously insignificant issues…
It is quite a parallel isn’t it?
re: #147 Dave In Austin
When I heard “Alt-Left”, my immediate thought was “Bernie-Bro”. Anyone else get that vibe or was it just me?
Other than in Fox “news” world, there is no such thing as “Alt Left”. The term was created by Fox/right-wing media. The Alt Right is an actual self-identified group. Translation: Another bullshit meme created by right-wing media.
How many monuments to George Washington are there? Are they scattered throughout a part of the country like statues of all of those Confederates?
Meanwhile, #Russia’s state TV refers to current events as “America’s color revolution,” predicting civil war & ultimate demise of the U.S. pic.twitter.com/SIQvV76E19
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) August 16, 2017
re: #179 Dr. Matt
Other than in Fox “news” world, there is no such thing as “Alt Left”. The term was created by Fox/right-wing media. The Alt Right is an actual self-identified group. Translation: Another bullshit meme created by right-wing media.
Then you get the taxonomic questions, like “Are anarchist groups leftist?” At some point the philosophical hygiene becomes impossible.
re: #180 Belafon
How many monuments to George Washington are there? Are they scattered throughout a part of the country like statues of all of those Confederates?
There surprisingly aren’t that many here. Much more schools named here for Lee or Jackson than for people like Washington or Jefferson.
Mr. “I want to have all the facts”
You had a lot of people in that [white nationalist] group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know — I don’t know if you know — they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit.
There was a great segment on Fox News yesterday in which the host tried to get the two guests to debate removal of Confederate memorials, but the guests, two African-Americans, one Democrat and one Republican, weren’t having any of Trump’s bullshit moral relativism. Watch it and try not to tear up; the guests couldn’t.
re: #181 JordanRules
[Embedded content]
Which is exactly what Putin wants. And Trump is either a willing accomplice or too dumb to know.
re: #180 Belafon
How many monuments to George Washington are there? Are they scattered throughout a part of the country like statues of all of those Confederates?
IIRC, Washington, Jefferson, and LaFayette are the most common placename sources in the country.
re: #178 HappyWarrior
It is quite a parallel isn’t it?
Happy, the Marxist behavior reminded me of how Presbyterians in Western PA would split into various denominations. Still remember in the 60s when they fractured into a dozen different groups and all of them were constantly disputing each other…re: #181 JordanRules
[Embedded content]
I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat it again!
Putin succeeded where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev failed. He has successfully infiltrated an American Political Party and has it doing his dirty work for him. Now all he has to do is sit back and watch the US collapse and break into pieces.
It’s actually quite I think indicative of a time and place what a community names its schools for.
en.wikipedia.org
This is a high school not foo far from where I grew up.
And this is a middle school.
One created in 1959 during the height of massive resistance to integration and the other in the 1970’s. One named after a Confederate general and the other after a brilliant poet.
Have to say, after reading that interview from yesterday, on wanting the left to embrace identity politics, I can’t help but wonder if Bannon is urging this on
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
…can’t change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who’s next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
…the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
Another spectacular @TIME cover by Edel Rodriguez/@edelstudio: pic.twitter.com/8QAyVgOCVX
— Anna Dorfman ☾ (@doorsixteen) August 17, 2017
The Economist cover. Devastating. pic.twitter.com/bORqdd06Eb
— Joseph Lake (@EconomistLake) August 17, 2017
re: #182 Decatur Deb
Then you get the taxonomic questions, like “Are anarchist groups leftist?” At some point the philosophical hygiene becomes impossible.
they are conflating different spectrums
and not recognizing that most spectrums, ok spectra are not even linear in the first place
left/right politics is not two dimensional - it’s at least 3
re: #181 JordanRules
We had a bigger fight in 1968, and yet we still kicked your ass, Russia.
Yeah, I know the history is a bit more complex than that, but we did survive it then, and we will now, and it looks like with fewer Confederate statues.
re: #180 Belafon
How many monuments to George Washington are there? Are they scattered throughout a part of the country like statues of all of those Confederates?
Tearing down Washington or Jefferson statues would presumably also require renaming every location named after them, including DC, in 50 states. I don’t know of many places named after Robert E Lee in New York.
Hey who was it here that recommended Deutschland 83 to me? I caught some episodes on my flight home. Really good show.
Tim Cook says Apple to donate $1million to Southern Poverty Law Center/Anti Defamation League. And will match employee donations until Sept.
— Mikey Kay (@MikeyKayNYC) August 17, 2017
re: #190 FormerDirtDart
Have to say, after reading that interview from yesterday, on wanting the left to embrace identity politics, I can’t help but wonder if Bannon is urging this on
DJT doesn’t know jackshIt about these places or these monuments.
Trump has now TREBLED down on racism and neo-Nazis. He has lost all moral authority to lead this country: pic.twitter.com/psec4b7CyQ
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) August 17, 2017
re: #193 Belafon
We had a bigger fight in 1968, and yet we still kicked your ass, Russia.
Yeah, I know the history is a bit more complex than that, but we did survive it then, and we will now, and it looks like with fewer Confederate statues.
The US has always been one musket ball away from disintegration. Nevertheless, we persist.
re: #195 wheat-dogg
Tearing down Washington or Jefferson statues would presumably also require renaming every location named after them, including DC, in 50 states. I don’t know of many places named after Robert E Lee in New York.
That is the difference. And the fact is many of these CSA names and memorials came about as a way of trying to respond to the Civil Rights movement. It wasn’t heritage at all.
re: #190 FormerDirtDart
Have to say, after reading that interview from yesterday, on wanting the left to embrace identity politics, I can’t help but wonder if Bannon is urging this on
Dividing America has been Dump’s aim from the beginning. He and Putin on the same page here.
re: #199 Bubblehead II
He didn’t have any to start with, keeps digging deeper.
At this point, the only thing that is going well under the Trump Regime is the Obama economy he inherited. Trump SHOULD be thanking Obama on daily basis.
KKK recruitment fliers disparaging transgender people found in Boothbay Harbor. #Maine https://t.co/dP9wp9qpds
— Katherine Lee (@katherine_lee1) August 17, 2017
Maine is a state of neighbors. This is not who we are. The KKK is not welcome here. https://t.co/WGJinaRn1c
— Senator Angus King (@SenAngusKing) August 17, 2017
re: #147 Dave In Austin
When I heard “Alt-Left”, my immediate thought was “Bernie-Bro”. Anyone else get that vibe or was it just me?
But that wouldn’t cover Hillary. Somehow, someway in Trump’s teeny brain alt-left has to include Hillary. And Obama. And the Deep State. It all has to figure in.
This is why I left Pennsylvania 35 years ago. Back then it was the Wallace and later Reagan love that a significant chunk of whites had. Now it’s degenerated further…
Alexandria, Va. passed a law in 1963 requiring that streets running north-south had to be named for confederate generals. I’m not kidding. pic.twitter.com/khoKsJONih
— Binyamin Appelbaum (@BCAppelbaum) August 17, 2017
Well, joined twitter some time ago. It really is a great resource for news and the *cough* occasional *cough* trolling. That being said, I used to think the criticism of the Bernie-bros here was a little over-the-top. Haha, boy was i off on that one.
I spent some time deliberately trolling a few Trump voters to let off some steam with no real consequence. Then I offered some constructive criticism on “saint” Bernie, and I got instantly dog-piled and a ban or two. Good grief, you really can’t talk to those clowns. I’d rather talk to a modern-day libertarian at this point, and I find them to be as intellectually bankrupt as a Trump casino.
re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter
Statue topic: Sigh. My wingnut SIL liked a posting on FB that showed a picture of the Egyptian pyramids with the caption of something like: “So when are you demanding the elimination of these monuments to a slave-holding society?”
Why is it so fucking hard for these people to understand that it is not because they held slaves, it is because they WAGED FUCKING WAR WITH THE US. TREASON by definition in our Constitution.
re: #207 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
I hate hate hate hate that we have to see this as a comment by a Senator in 2017.
67% of Republicans approve of Pres. Trump’s reaction to #Charlottesville attack, @CBSNews poll finds. https://t.co/fo6kpiYA1S pic.twitter.com/spUIec2yPx
— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) August 17, 2017
Been sick for the last day…got a high fever - couldn’t find the thermometer but I was way north of 100. Had (and still have) Supercramp…so every sip of water sends a shockwave through my intestinal system. Felt so shitty I didn’t even try to follow politics.
Taking a rare sick day today to recover. Think I’ll binge watch some crappy movies so I can doze through them.
re: #214 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
67% Republicans would probably approve if he did the Nuremberg Laws.
re: #212 Eventual Carrion
Why is it so fucking hard for these people to understand that it is not because they held slaves, it is because they WAGED FUCKING WAR WITH THE US. TREASON by definition in our Constitution.
These are the same idiots who call liberals traitors yet venerate the flag and people who committed treason.
re: #217 HappyWarrior
These are the same idiots who call liberals traitors yet venerate the flag and people who committed treason.
So much this!!!!
re: #152 dangerman
isnt it amazing that as an administration they are doing almost nothing at all on a day to day basis
theyre barely getting the doors open and the lights on each morning
theyre not organized, productive, or in control of anything - the agenda, the message, the staff
its disorganized incompetence
Someone on MSNBC said the other night while we are fighting over the bigger issues with Trump in the background, out of sight, they are wrecking a lot of things America has come to accept as needed.
They are busy. Sadly.
I think they were warning that we should pay attention the left hand while Trump has us all watching the right.
Alabama Attorney General: “Putting up the barrier around the confederate monument violates the state law against alteration.”
Birmingham Mayor: “Didn’t touch the mofo. It’s a ‘protective barrier’. Sue us.”
re: #211 alloutofcrazyhere
Well, joined twitter some time ago. It really is a great resource for news and the *cough* occasional *cough* trolling. That being said, I used to think the criticism of the Bernie-bros here was a little over-the-top. Haha, boy was i off on that one.
I spent some time deliberately trolling a few Trump voters to let off some steam with no real consequence. Then I offered some constructive criticism on “saint” Bernie, and I got instantly dog-piled and a ban or two. Good grief, you really can’t talk to those clowns. I’d rather talk to a modern-day libertarian at this point, and I find them to be as intellectually bankrupt as a Trump casino.
Speaking of “saint” Bernie,
I actually used to like Sanders quite a bit until he got popular and got a massive cult of personality surrounding him and totally attacking any criticism of him.
re: #218 electrotek
So much this!!!!
Seriously, you don’t get to call us fucking traitors while you literally have the flag of treason on your truck or on your ab.
Welp, that didn’t last long.
Good riddance. https://t.co/BHa41xmgzH
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) August 17, 2017
re: #216 HappyWarrior
67% Republicans would probably approve if he did the Nuremberg Laws.
All this tells me is we’re in for a lot more “BUT RICHARD BYRD” tweets pic.twitter.com/v5p8MRJVtP
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) August 17, 2017
This is an amazing sentence. https://t.co/iEGI1pam1f pic.twitter.com/uSLVHvQjNO
— Bae Talese (@elongreen) August 17, 2017
re: #215 darthstar
Been sick for the last day…got a high fever - couldn’t find the thermometer but I was way north of 100. Had (and still have) Supercramp…so every sip of water sends a shockwave through my intestinal system. Felt so shitty I didn’t even try to follow politics.
Taking a rare sick day today to recover. Think I’ll binge watch some crappy movies so I can doze through them.
Eww, feel better.
Richard Spencer tells Israelis they ‘should respect’ him: ‘I’m a white Zionist,’ but ‘Jews vastly over-represented’ https://t.co/pGcrzpCHnX pic.twitter.com/B4jzEcn9oJ
— Shibley Telhami (@ShibleyTelhami) August 17, 2017
re: #224 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
Robert. Richard was the Arctic explorer and oddly enough brother of Harry who played a big role in keeping Jim CRow here in Va a thing for many years.
re: #221 HappyWarrior
That’s my take-away on Sanders too. Everything went to his head. That being said, I agree with many of the things that he has mentioned, but it’s the getting there part that is not realistic. At least, not in the time frame that he is thinking.
For me, it is cause they held slaves, waged a treasonous war because of it and terrorized us. That’s also what the statues are celebrating. White terrorism embedded and venerated. So many of the folks they put these statues up to terrorize are still alive.
This debate is giving me hives.
re: #212 Eventual Carrion
Why is it so fucking hard for these people to understand that it is not because they held slaves, it is because they WAGED FUCKING WAR WITH THE US. TREASON by definition in our Constitution.
It kind of is about slavery because the point of the statues was the enforcement of white supremacy. But, the point of those statues is white supremacy. The point of honoring Washington and Jefferson is the founding of the country. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be honoring La Fayette.
re: #229 alloutofcrazyhere
That’s my take-away on Sanders too. Everything went to his head. That being said, I agree with many of the things that he has mentioned, but it’s the getting there part that is not realistic. At least, not in the time frame that he is thinking.
Oh I do too. I’m quite lefty on economics as well but my position was that he had no realistic plan of how to not only implement them but to make sure their legality and constitutionality was upheld. Agree that success went to his head.
Picking a fight with the left and media is basically the only trick Trump knows. The twist this time is that it depends on revving up Nazis.
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) August 17, 2017
Kind of wondering what is going on in this house right now pic.twitter.com/KlqHCHt8Fr
— Chris Arnade (@Chris_arnade) August 16, 2017
I don’t like to cite a problematical reality, but it is a reality that the Nazis and Klan will be defeated in part because billionaires and corporate America have joined the fight against them. HR departments from coast to coast are on a search and destroy mission against outed Nazis and many people are finding out the hard way that you can, in fact, be fired for your “political beliefs.” Businesses from the Detroit Red Wings and the Tiki Torch Company to Amazon have denounced the nazi scum far more harshly than our cowardly media and politicians have dared to do.
It affects the rest of the bat guano right too. In Texas, open opposition from business was what saved us from the fascist administration’s abominable “bathroom bill.”
Of course, there is division over this in the business community. Many entrepreneurs want tax cuts and libertarian de-regulation at any cost. This is especially true of narrow track firms with a single, large revenue source, that depends on lax regulation ie fast food or multi-level marketing. Otoh, the largest and most sophisticated operators, and the ones with the most diverse interests, are beginning to see the GOP and the right as a bad investment.
re: #235 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
There was a Jewish Confederate cabinet officer but Antisemitism and the CSA are a big thing.
re: #164 Bubblehead II
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
…the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
9:21 AM - Aug 17, 2017
The beauty???
Proof this asswipe President of ours has no idea why people are wanting those statues gone. There was nothing beautiful about war, the cause of the war, and the lingering stench that remains from the whole reason there was a war.
re: #235 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
For a guess, that photo was between Wetumpka and Sylacauga AL. Otherwise, it’s a “thing”.
re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
I don’t like to cite a problematical reality, but it is a reality that the Nazis and Klan will be defeated in part because billionaires and corporate America have joined the fight against them. HR departments from coast to coast are on a search and destroy mission against outed Nazis and many people are finding out the hard way that you can, in fact, be fired for your “political beliefs.” Businesses from the Detroit Red Wings and the Tiki Torch Company to Amazon have denounced the nazi scum far more harshly than our cowardly media and politicians have dared to do.
It affects the rest of the bat guano right too. In Texas, open opposition from business was what saved us from the fascist administration’s abominable “bathroom bill.”
Of course, there is division over this in the business community. Many entrepreneurs want tax cuts and libertarian de-regulation at any cost. This is especially true of narrow track firms with a single, large revenue source, that depends on lax regulation ie fast food or multi-level marketing. Otoh, the largest and most sophisticated operators, and the ones with the most diverse interests, are beginning to see the GOP and the right as a bad investment.
Businesses also opposed a lot of the stupid “religious liberty” bills too.
White House spokesperson: “The tweets speak for themselves.”
Factcheck: True.— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) August 17, 2017
Off to prepare the eclipse expedition into darkest Tennessee. BBL
still shaken after my brutal assault by the alt-left. the sick fucks pelted me with healthcare and registered me to vote
— Jen Spyra (@jenspyra) August 16, 2017
(sorry if this was posted already)
I hate the character, but love the actor.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan from TWD) ladies and gentlemen:
@realDonaldTrump FUCK YOU. Seriously. Fuck you for everything. Today? Fuck you for making us have to explain racism to our children.
— Jeffrey Dean Morgan (@JDMorgan) August 15, 2017
re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
The trouble with the Republican Party, from a business standpoint, is all the social conservatism baggage it carries with it. You have a party that simultaneously argues for less government interference in business matters (OSHA, &EPA regs, taxation, etc.)and more government interference in business matters (bathrooms, LGBQT employment, birth control coverage, etc.). Savvy business leaders are learning that the current Republican Party is an albatross around their necks.
re: #203 HappyWarrior
Woot. Thanks Mr. Cook.
Except it is to the ACLU.
/ Were you around for that discussion here?
…the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
“Beauty” is an odd word choice for statues honoring people who fought for slavery https://t.co/xqdXWtBPuk
— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) August 17, 2017
its not “odd.” it’s deliberate. he is a racist who supports racism. https://t.co/3pmsnD9rkt
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 17, 2017
***Screaming this into the abyss***
…the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
“never able to be comparably replaced”
That tweet sounds like Stephen Miller wrote it for Donald Trump. No way in hell Trump typed “comparably replaced”.
re: #244 Franklin
He should be teaching his kids that anyway.
re: #235 FormerDirtDart
Well, it is a “White House”
When a developer destroyed sculptures to make room for his building..
His name was @realDonaldTrump
Via @MichaelRMora pic.twitter.com/oKTFyE167q— LaVonne 🌹 (@cdubgma) August 17, 2017
re: #245 wheat-dogg
The trouble with the Republican Party, from a business standpoint, is all the social conservatism baggage it carries with it. You have a party that simultaneously argues for less government interference in business matters (OSHA, &EPA regs, taxation, etc.)and more government interference in business matters (bathrooms, LGBQT employment, birth control coverage, etc.). Savvy business leaders are learning that the current Republican Party is an albatross around their necks.
This is because as a major political party you can’t run on just a platform of massive tax cuts for billionaires and fuck you to everyone else because no-one will vote for it. Since they don’t want to run on helping people (because that costs money which should be used to cut taxes for billionaires) they offer culture wars instead.
So this new @pewresearch survey on global attitudes towards Putin, Russia… https://t.co/kKH9K4WjxJ h/t @ChhabraT
— Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) August 17, 2017
Of the 11 NATO states surveyed, 7 have more confidence in Putin to do the right thing regarding world affairs than Trump pic.twitter.com/xmSVacBkNp
— Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) August 17, 2017
Roughly six-in-ten Democrats (61%) view Russia as a major risk to national security, whereas only 36% of Republicans feel the same pic.twitter.com/wJp8KjJbmY
— Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) August 17, 2017
re: #246 ObserverArt
Except it is to the ACLU.
/ Were you around for that discussion here?
Missed that I think.
re: #254 Sir John Barron
The antifas are the worst. They’re against fascism. Can you believe that?
/
TEH ANTIFAS ARE FASHUTS!!!!11!
Black veteran who fought for civil rights describes working at TX’s Fort Hood, named after a confederate general https://t.co/FRlGbONGS0 pic.twitter.com/1UTPWamWtv
— Andrea Drusch (@AndreaDrusch) August 17, 2017
1973: Neo-Nazis protested inaugration of L.A.’s African American mayor Tom Bradley. President Trump is emboldening people like this today. pic.twitter.com/458C3y1SLO
— Jacob Soboroff (@jacobsoboroff) August 17, 2017
re: #249 JordanRules
He should be teaching his kids that anyway.
I agree/disagree.
I think he has a 7 year old. My daughters (9 and 7) know very well about Civil Rights, MLK, @RepJohnLewis, Harriett Tubman, Rosa Parks. But what they (at least the 7yo) don’t know about is the modern day institutional racism, KKK, Nazi’s, etc.
Plus, I doubt he really thought “Oh shit, now I have to sit down and tell my kids about racism.” I’m sure it was hyperbole and any F bombs directed at a POTUS from a character that POTUS’s base likes, is fine by me.
re: #257 JordanRules
I experienced that kind of hate, though in a very small way, when I met a Southerner who, after I told her I was from New York, said, “Oh, so you’re a Yankee” with a tone of absolute scorn and derision. And she was not a oldtimer, but someone about my age at the time, 25. It was the first time I’d ever experienced that kind of hatred. As a white guy, I suppose I got off easy. I can only imagine her reaction if I’d been a black guy from New York.
re: #257 JordanRules
[Embedded content]
He’s absolutely right. I’ve been thinking a lot about African-American veterans lately btw especially those in the World Wars. I can’t imagine serving your country and then going home and having to worry about being lynched. As I’ve said before, I don’t blame black people for having an ambivalent view of this country. That Mr. Marles still served in uniform after being attacked in the Civil Rights years is something that would have been hard for me to do.
re: #259 Franklin
I’m cool with the F bombs too.
re: #261 wheat-dogg
I experienced that kind of hate, though in a very small way, when I met a Southerner who, after I told her I was from New York, said, “Oh, so you’re a Yankee” with a tone of absolute scorn and derision. And she was not a oldtimer, but someone about my age at the time, 25. It was the first time I’d ever experienced that kind of hatred. As a white guy, I suppose I got off easy. I can only imagine her reaction if I’d been a black guy from New York.
What I’ve observed here in Va is a lot of the multi-generational and likely more conservative individuals resent liberal NOVA because a lot of us are transplants or in my and my parents’ case the children and grandchildren of them. I’m a Virginian but I definitely still do identify with Pennsylvania a little.
re: #185 Big Beautiful Door
There was a great segment on Fox News yesterday in which the host tried to get the two guests to debate removal of Confederate memorials, but the guests, two African-Americans, one Democrat and one Republican, weren’t having any of Trump’s bullshit moral relativism. Watch it and try not to tear up; the guests couldn’t.
Man, the comment section at Mediaite is as bad as YouTube.
re: #155 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
[snip]
FWIW, I think the only reason that Clinton was as close with white voters, is the impact of Ross Perot. Perot won about a fifth of the white vote.
[hanging my head] And I was one of them {slinking off].
PS: Hey, I was young and dumb. That was 25 years ago. Now I’m old and dumb, big difference.
“dubious”
🤔 pic.twitter.com/VyV411Yuyt— Franklin (@franklinftw) August 17, 2017
re: #267 Eventual Carrion
[hanging my head] And I was one of them {slinking off].
PS: Hey, I was young and dumb. That was 25 years ago. Now I’m old and dumb, big difference.
I have to confess, my first presidential vote was for Reagan. Young and dumb.
re: #261 wheat-dogg
After living in Kentucky for 30 years, I’m still amazed that some folks have not gotten over losing the War Between the States, and will not let the memory die. For a lot of them, the Civil War never really ended.
I see the same kind of thing in China, which memorializes the Japanese occupation in the same way. There are young Chinese who hate the Japanese and Japan with the heat of a thousand suns, probably more than their great-grandparents did, because the government fosters this kind of “never forget-ism” to build a nationalist psyche.
re: #270 Big Beautiful Door
I have to confess, my first presidential vote was for Reagan. Young and dumb.
I’ve got you both beat.
I voted for McCain ‘08 and Romney ‘12.
What exactly does trump fun beautiful in this history pic.twitter.com/bH5JkbbHvU
— Sharon Dennis (@sddphoto) August 17, 2017
Both sides.
re: #244 Franklin
(sorry if this was posted already)
I hate the character, but love the actor.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan from TWD) ladies and gentlemen:
[Embedded content]
Clinton forced us to explain blow jobs to our kids….the horrors
Trump…racism..and why it is still such a big deal here
re: #272 Franklin
I’ve got you both beat.
I voted for McCain ‘08 and Romney ‘12.
Then again, I voted HRC in ‘16 and look what happened. Maybe it’s me.
re: #271 wheat-dogg
After living in Kentucky for 30 years, I’m still amazed that some folks have not gotten over losing the War Between the States, and will not let the memory die. For a lot of them, the Civil War never really ended.
I see the same kind of thing in China, which memorializes the Japanese occupation in the same way. There are young Chinese who hate the Japanese and Japan with the heat of a thousand suns, probably more than their great-grandparents did, because the government fosters this kind of “never forget-ism” to build a nationalist psyche.
With China and Japan, I can understand given what happened though obviously violence and discrimination towards someone just because they are Japanese would not be acceptable. To me, it’s the hilarious double standards of these people. Black people need to get over Jim Crow and slavery and “I never owned any slaves” but the CSA is my heritage and General Sherman is the Debil.
re: #272 Franklin
I’ve got you both beat.
I voted for McCain ‘08 and Romney ‘12.
At least you see you were wrong. And as bad as McCain and Romney are, they’re not Trump.
re: #274 dangerman
Clinton forced us to explain blow jobs to our kids….the horrors
Trump…racism..and why it is still such a big deal here
And Newt forced us to explain infidelity, several times.
Newt Gingrich: Mayors who take down Confederate statues are just pandering to a black audience https://t.co/bui8KsTbQ4
— Media Matters (@mmfa) August 15, 2017
Newt, people’s feelings change. One day everybody loves a statue, then suddenly they just want a new younger statue that doesn’t have cancer https://t.co/eXPIxZVlJK
— John Rogers (@jonrog1) August 15, 2017
re: #264 HappyWarrior
What I’ve observed here in Va is a lot of the multi-generational and likely more conservative individuals resent liberal NOVA because a lot of us are transplants or in my and my parents’ case the children and grandchildren of them. I’m a Virginian but I definitely still do identify with Pennsylvania a little.
Yeah, a lot of resentment of “carpetbaggers”, even after two or three generations.
At the risk of making a sweeping generalization, Southerners are very tribal. If your family isn’t from the South back several generations, you’re not really a Southerner. You’re worse off if your family came after the War ended.
re: #251 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
Can anyone find a photo of these before Trump destroyed them?
In retrospect the president’s description of the intelligence community as Nazis may have been intended differently from how it was received
— Tom Wright (@thomaswright08) August 17, 2017
School officials have confirmed that a teacher shot himself in a classroom at Lithia Springs High this morning: https://t.co/HcRJb2lLdF pic.twitter.com/W3gHD2L0FC
— 11Alive News (@11AliveNews) August 17, 2017
re: #272 Franklin
I’ve got you both beat.
I voted for McCain ‘08 and Romney ‘12.
I voted for John Anderson in ‘80. I carry that shame still.
re: #279 wheat-dogg
Yeah, a lot of resentment of “carpetbaggers”, even after two or three generations.
At the risk of making a sweeping generalization, Southerners are very tribal. If your family isn’t from the South back several generations, you’re not really a Southerner. You’re worse off if your family came after the War ended.
When I was poll watching on primary day, I did it with a transplant, a Long Islander, he told me he could tell the difference between the natives- people whose families have been here generations and those closer to us. Those closer to us are why Virginia has gone light blue. And of course the African-American community and other groups as well. But yeah, I remember when I posted on a forum that had libs and conservatives, one of the Virginia conservatives really resented us NoVa folk because so many of us were or are descended from Yankees. Of course, it’s liberal NoVa that has made the state a great place to live and why Virginia thankfully isn’t where Alabama or Misssissppi is.
re: #266 Big Beautiful Door
Don’t read the comments!!!
I always read comments to get insight into what people are thinking. If you look at political sites (where people follow politics) they hate trump (generally). If you look at celebrity sites (which I put Mediaite into, along with its sister company Gossip Cop) they are more tolerant (to outright supporting) trump.
re: #284 HappyWarrior
When I was poll watching on primary day, I did it with a transplant, a Long Islander, he told me he could tell the difference between the natives- people whose families have been here generations and those closer to us. Those closer to us are why Virginia has gone light blue. And of course the African-American community and other groups as well. But yeah, I remember when I posted on a forum that had libs and conservatives, one of the Virginia conservatives really resented us NoVa folk because so many of us were or are descended from Yankees. Of course, it’s liberal NoVa that has made the state a great place to live and why Virginia thankfully isn’t where Alabama or Misssissppi is.
Try explaining that to the dyed-in-the-wool Southerner. They really have no clue.
Had Lincoln let the CSA secede, it would have ended up with the CSA being a third-world country dependent on the USA for manufactured goods and commercial services.
re: #277 HappyWarrior
At least you see you were wrong. And as bad as McCain and Romney are, they’re not Trump.
I hear that, we are in a whole new ballgame here.
It’s not so much I regret voting for McCain/Romney, it’s that I regret NOT voting for President Obama.
I did some soul searching after 11/6/12. The events of Sandy Hook and President Obama’s reaction/presser in December went a long way in winning me over.
re: #287 Franklin
I hear that, we are in a whole new ballgame here.
It’s not so much I regret voting for McCain/Romney, it’s that I regret NOT voting for President Obama.
I did some soul searching after 11/6/12. The events of Sandy Hook and President Obama’s reaction/presser in December went a long way in winning me over.
True points. And you’re right. The Obama presser was very moving.
re: #223 Bubblehead II
Welp, that didn’t last long.
[Embedded content]
No doubt they’ll be back. And they will be found and shut down again and again and again.
Apparently they have an IRC chat too, but can you imagine their followers trying to figure that out? heh
re: #261 wheat-dogg
I experienced that kind of hate, though in a very small way, when I met a Southerner who, after I told her I was from New York, said, “Oh, so you’re a Yankee” with a tone of absolute scorn and derision. And she was not a oldtimer, but someone about my age at the time, 25. It was the first time I’d ever experienced that kind of hatred. As a white guy, I suppose I got off easy. I can only imagine her reaction if I’d been a black guy from New York.
Richard jeni (rip)
When asked down south “you a Yankee?”
Says “why what are you a viking?”
Then there was the bar fight…
re: #282 FormerDirtDart
Sigh. You always know school is in session with our first gun related incident.
re: #286 wheat-dogg
Try explaining that to the dyed-in-the-wool Southerner. They really have no clue.
Had Lincoln let the CSA secede, it would have ended up with the CSA being a third-world country dependent on the USA for manufactured goods and commercial services.
Yep. Seriously the CSA was frankly a hellhole. Unless you were a well off planter or soldier, you really lived a terrible life. Makes that thousands of poor Southern boys seeing General Lee as their hero or father figure all the more sad.
Want to make sure you all saw this photo. It’s the line of people in Durham waiting to turn themselves in for toppling the Confed statue. pic.twitter.com/2SNtWuoR64
— Celeste Headlee (@CelesteHeadlee) August 17, 2017
This. Is. My. Country. https://t.co/q59Kt1KDic
— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) August 17, 2017
Looks like the county prosecutor is going to have a really bad day.
I certainly don’t expect people to hate their relatives who fought for the CSA but to instead ask themselves objectively what the CSA was being fought for.
re: #293 Myron Falwell
“I am Spartacus!”
“I am Spartacus!”
…
re: #293 Myron Falwell
Looks like the county prosecutor is going to have a really bad day.
“I am Spartacus!”
re: #294 HappyWarrior
I certainly don’t expect people to hate their relatives who fought for the CSA but to instead ask themselves objectively what the CSA was being fought for.
Not that there are many people left old enough to have actually met any of their confederate veteran relatives.
The New War on Birth Control - Pacific Standard
In case you needed a reason to scream this morning.
Shameless Pages Post
re: #293 Myron Falwell
Looks like the county prosecutor is going to have a really bad day.
Hopefully they are stocked up on ink and film.
I caught something about one of the ways the defeated segregation in Mississippi was to overwhelm the prisons there. It was something like the town forbid blacks from riding into town and so both blacks and whites kept coming in on buses and getting arrested.
oops
A @GolfDigest scoop: Trump has plaque at his golf course commemorating Civil War battle that never happenedhttps://t.co/OfOSiRjVnw
— Celeste Headlee (@CelesteHeadlee) August 17, 2017
re: #297 Big Beautiful Door
Not that there are many people left old enough to have actually met any of their confederate veteran relatives.
Exactly and I have no illusions about my second great grandfatehr who was a Union man. I doubt he was a believer in racial equality or even an abolitionist.
re: #301 Franklin
oops
[Embedded content]
That’s not too far from me. We did have a lot of Civil War action in these parts but it’s bullshit and honestly if it was true, I’d find it unbelievably tacky to use a battleground as a golf course. I was just in the Ypres area of Belgium. Not commercially developed at all and everywhere a reminder of the fighting that happened there.
re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus
[Embedded content]
Feel free to save this to retort any of that stupid “Confederacy wasn’t about slavery!” bullshit.
The more honest CSA members admitted this. It was shitheads like Jubal Early that had to write the Lost Cause shit to try to rationalize why they destroyed the nation over slavery. Early also defamed people like Longstreet to push the Saint Lee bullshit. I have a lot of respect for Longstreet. He actually worked for uniting the country after the war and getting African-Americans their rights. And of course, he was hated in the South for it for becoming a Republican and a Catholic at that too.
re: #280 GlutenFreeJesus
A great article from the NYT describing the building generally.
A close up of the reliefs.
Image: LostBonwitTreasures.jpg
Distance shots and other historical photos.
This was….an interesting read:
Needs to go viral👉 Steve Bannon’s porn and meth house https://t.co/jD6uIClA3A
— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) August 17, 2017
re: #289 GlutenFreeJesus
No doubt they’ll be back. And they will be found and shut down again and again and again.
Apparently they have an IRC chat too, but can you imagine their followers trying to figure that out? heh
Yep. No reputable hosting company will have them now. That pretty much leaves the dark web.
I’m sure this has been posted, but it’s worth seeing again
Want to make sure you all saw this photo. It’s the line of people in Durham waiting to turn themselves in for toppling the Confed statue. pic.twitter.com/2SNtWuoR64
— Celeste Headlee (@CelesteHeadlee) August 17, 2017
re: #306 ozharas
A great article from the NYT describing the building generally.
A close up of the reliefs.
Image: LostBonwitTreasures.jpg
Distance shots and other historical photos.
Thank you! Now THOSE are beautiful pieces of art. Not these damn CSA hate memorials.
VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:
Fecalith: A hard stony mass of feces in the intestinal tract. A fecalith can obstruct the appendix, leading to appendicitis. Fecaliths can also obstruct diverticuli. Also known as coprolith and stercolith.
Medical Definition of Fecalith - MedicineNet
medicinenet.com
re: #309 Stanley Sea
Funny how none of the nazis are offering to go to jail in solidarity…also funny how none of these “liberals” are reduced to sniveling crybabies at the thought of jail…
Beyond aggravation: Constipation is an American epidemic https://t.co/L4XSAmQX3U via @statnews
— ggt (@geegeetee) August 17, 2017
Analysis: Chuck Todd tried to interview 70 Republicans about Trump and Charlottesville. They all declined. https://t.co/gaZzUIQl8M
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 17, 2017
re: #272 Franklin
My first vote for POTUS was Reagan. I am sorry that I ever gave a vote to an R, let alone THAT R.
Which reproductive health care bills passed and which failed? Read our special legislative session wrap-up. #txlege https://t.co/h1GTPONxpy pic.twitter.com/7O3J4XeIXD
— PPTV (@PPTXVotes) August 17, 2017
BREAKING: Spanish national police report multiple injuries in Barcelona after incident involving a vehicle along a pedestrian mall. pic.twitter.com/3FWFp40L4A
— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 17, 2017
re: #317 plansbandc
My first vote for POTUS was Reagan. I am sorry that I ever gave a got to an R, let alone THAT R.
It was 9/11 and toxic talk radio for me.
I voted B Clinton, Gore, Bush, McCain, Romney, H Clinton.
Just talked to my friend, she and her husband are fine.
Whew. They said they were just by the area when it happened, and got rerouted.
Rauner is positioning himself for something —some good legislation passed this week in Illinois.
All in my Pages.
He even pulled the canine-card. Police dogs can now be transported by EMS for Emergency Vet Care.
See how the solar eclipse will look from anywhere in the U.S. https://t.co/4Q8qAlu3en
— ggt (@geegeetee) August 17, 2017
re: #317 plansbandc
My first vote for POTUS was Reagan. I am sorry that I ever gave a got to an R, let alone THAT R.
Mine was H Dubyah. It was the first and last time I ever voted for an R.
re: #263 JordanRules
I’m cool with the F bombs too.
I type here like a sailor, for effect. if I’m at a demonstration I would never put an F-bomb on a sign, for effect.
Hearts and fuckn’ minds, people.
Deleted this tweet because too many people didn’t realize it was a joke. Lesson learned! pic.twitter.com/t8BG5MCVz5
— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) August 17, 2017
re: #313 Birth Control Works
VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:
Fecalith: A hard stony mass of feces in the intestinal tract. A fecalith can obstruct the appendix, leading to appendicitis. Fecaliths can also obstruct diverticuli. Also known as coprolith and stercolith.
Medical Definition of Fecalith - MedicineNet
medicinenet.com
Fascinating - I’m thinking that perhaps Donald Trump may well be the first known case in medical science of an individual having a fecalith in his cranium.
re: #330 Dr Lizardo
It would seem a person with this condition probably has a pressure washer somewhere in their future.
//
re: #327 Decatur Deb
I’d be hard pressed to think folks are resisting picking a side cause people put swear words on a sign or tweet.
re: #323 Sir John Barron
The Battle of Bowling Green? That was a doozy. Never forget.
A few media outlets covered the massacre:
Video shows cops forcibly searching woman’s vagina for 11 minutes, lawyer says https://t.co/Y8WfjGUPmh via @blackvoices
— ggt (@geegeetee) August 17, 2017
It is icky that so many founding fathers and early presidents owned slaves. It tarnishes their legacy. They also created our country, so we generally honor them for that, but liberals don’t consider them gods or superheroes or anything. Confederate generals and leaders, on the other hand, not only owned slaves but tried to destroy our country in order to preserve and expand the institution of slavery. Not a mixed legacy - icky all the way down.
I doubt that Trump actually doesn’t understand this. He’s probably playing dumb. Certainly most of the people comparing Washington and Lee are.
re: #313 Birth Control Works
VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:
Fecalith: A hard stony mass of feces in the intestinal tract. A fecalith can obstruct the appendix, leading to appendicitis. Fecaliths can also obstruct diverticuli. Also known as coprolith and stercolith.
Medical Definition of Fecalith - MedicineNet
medicinenet.com
We’ve found the proper material for Confederate statues.
BREAKING: Two armed men have entered a restaurant in Barcelona after van crash - local media https://t.co/CExDnzlJlb pic.twitter.com/LYx5Altsp6
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) August 17, 2017
re: #248 Franklin
[Embedded content]
“never able to be comparably replaced”
That tweet sounds like Stephen Miller wrote it for Donald Trump. No way in hell Trump typed “comparably replaced”.
We could replace them with Benedict Arnold statues.
re: #301 Franklin
Trump tore down a stand of trees to expose the Potomac River view and then installed that plaque that commemorates an event that didn’t happen anywhere near this plaque or Trump’s property. Historians have identified a location away from Trump’s golf course where there was a battle and a river crossing, but it wasn’t here.
Trump invented this bullshit out of whole cloth to try and make it seem more valuable than it was. It’s no more accurate than someone who installs a plaque on a newly built home that says something famous happened here (nothing did).
re: #246 ObserverArt
Except it is to the ACLU.
/ Were you around for that discussion here?
I believe the donations are to the SPLC and ADL.
re: #338 FormerDirtDart
Trump: I will wait for the FACTS
re: #321 Franklin
It was 9/11 and toxic talk radio for me.
I voted B Clinton, Gore, Bush, McCain, Romney, H Clinton.
never been sucked in by a third party candidate who wasnt going to win
never voted R
d’s tend to promote more of what i think is important. r’s dont
doesnt make me smarter, or even consistent
just the way it played out
re: #341 BeachDem
I believe the donations are to the SPLC and ADL.
PLANNED PARENTHOOD and your local Women’s Shelter (especially in Illinois)
Beyond aggravation: Constipation is an American epidemic https://t.co/L4XSAmQX3U via @statnews
— ggt (@geegeetee) August 17, 2017
In other words a large number of Americans are full of shit. https://t.co/Lcg6sT8TDP
— Josh M. (@dreggas) August 17, 2017
re: #327 Decatur Deb
I type here like a sailor, for effect. if I’m at a demonstration I would never put an F-bomb on a sign, for effect.
Hearts and fuckn’ minds, people.
thought it was “fuckin’ hearts and minds”
re: #336 EmmaAnne
It is icky that so many founding fathers and early presidents owned slaves. It tarnishes their legacy. They also created our country, so we generally honor them for that, but liberals don’t consider them gods or superheroes or anything. Confederate generals and leaders, on the other hand, not only owned slaves but tried to destroy our country in order to preserve and expand the institution of slavery. Not a mixed legacy - icky all the way down.
I doubt that Trump actually doesn’t understand this. He’s probably playing dumb. Certainly most of the people comparing Washington and Lee are.
This did not escape the attention of contemporary observers:
“How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of Negros?” Samuel Johnson 1775
re: #349 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
This did not escape the attention of contemporary observers:
“How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of Negros?” Samuel Johnson 1775
He wasn’t wrong. And that contradiction is why we had black loyalists and slaves who helped the British. The contradiction is as much a part of the history as the founding documents themselves imo.
Fucking LePage
Maine governor claims removing Confederate statutes is ‘just like’ destroying 9/11 Memorial https://t.co/6rqG4eGMHa pic.twitter.com/8uB3X2i6jx
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) August 17, 2017
MUST READ for anyone interested in US History.
Removal and destroyal too Governor Racist von Fuckface.
Well, I guess Trump is free to tweet now
Local police have declared the crash a “terrorist attack” https://t.co/cRGDqcKtCx
— New York Post (@nypost) August 17, 2017
re: #359 FormerDirtDart
Well, I guess Trump is free to tweet now
But Trump still won’t call the Nazi attack on Saturday a terrorist attack.
re: #331 Birth Control Works
25. Whatever suits her mission.
26. Whatever suits her mission.
27. Whatever suits her mission.
re: #333 JordanRules
I’d be hard pressed to think folks are resisting picking a side cause people put swear words on a sign or tweet.
Welcome to Lower Alabama.
re: #316 FormerDirtDart
Have to admit - wouldn’t matter what political party I belonged to - I would decline to be interviewed by Chuck Todd.
re: #301 Franklin
oops
[Embedded content]
Not all that much of a “scoop” as
In 2015, the New York Times fact checked a Civil War monument on a golf course owned by Donald Trump in Virginia and found it to be historically inaccurate.
I’ve been to that part of La Ramblas numerous times. There’s always a ton of people because it’s such a tourist spot. The fact that only 2 died is pretty amazing.
re: #336 EmmaAnne
I doubt that Trump actually doesn’t understand this. He’s probably playing dumb. Certainly most of the people comparing Washington and Lee are.
I must disagree, I think it’s quite clear he doesn’t understand any of it.
His psychology is quite simple. He is a man of significantly below average intelligence who is now 70 and suffering the initial effects of senility. This is exacerbated by the fact that like most old white Americans, he has watched FOX diligently for years, and repetition and indoctrination have given him an emotional attachment to any and all bullshit that the network puts out. His speech patterns - constant repetition of phrases, very simple words and language - clearly show the dimming of his naturally limited faculties.
Furthermore, he has never thought deeply about a subject in his life. His entire life has been viewed solely through the prism of whether or not he is liked by a person or group of people. Again, like lots of old white Americans, FOX gives him that sense of belonging, so he naturally is attached to cultish propaganda and the comfort that racist tropes (likely reinforced daily by Bannon and Miller, etc) give him. His reactions to questions show the patterns of his youth - lie reflexively, bombast, exaggerate, and then bluster and bully if ever challenged - but the increased demands of the presidency and the loss of any mental nimbleness he ever had mean that he is unable to adapt or spin the lie effectively, and instead resorts to repeating himself. His catch phrases are only effective because the complicit US media amplifies and repeats them for him.
Trump is a media creation. He has no particular skills or affinity for any topic. However, he is a celebrity, and the US media exists to amplify celebrity, particularly any celebrity that will reinforce the dominant paradigm of average white men. That Harvard review posted yesterday demonstrated this clearly - the Trump presidency is the direct effect of complicity by the New York Times and other mainstream outlets, which continue to have far more influence than Breitbart or other cult media sources, but chose to use that influence to peddle celebrity and reinforce the Trump narrative.
re: #161 lizardofid
Yep, when the dixiecrats couldn’t hold their filibuster in 64, Strom lead the march of the boll weevils. Soon Lee Atwater gave us the Southern Strategy and the rest….. well, you know the rest.
Oh, and good morning!
actually… Lee Atwater described it really well, but he was not yet in politics when it was devised. It was Pat Buchanan (at the time a young Nixon campaign staffer) who wrote the memo suggesting the strategy.
re: #363 Decatur Deb
Unless there is something special once you cross the AL/GA line, I am quite familiar.
Lived in GA for 5 years, drove back and forth to TN for work one year.
I suspect there may be other reasons. Course language is a lovely cover and clutched pearls are always in fashion.
re: #366 Dr. Matt
I’ve been to that part of La Ramblas numerous times. There’s always a ton of people because it’s such a tourist spot. The fact that only 2 died is pretty amazing.
So far, it can change.
The last time Spain was hit was on 11 March 2004, in Madrid. Where 191 people were killed while commuting to and from work. Worse than France.
Trump has been showing us his true side for years, but enough people have either refused to believe it or found excuses for who he is.
Growing harder and harder to overlook as time progresses…
re: #369 JordanRules
Unless there is something special once you cross the AL/GA line, I am quite familiar.
[Embedded content]
I suspect there may be other reasons. Course language is a lovely cover and clutched pearls are always in fashion.
Style must match purpose. Most of our demonstrations around here have included Black pastors and their flocks. Many are called by them. Never give the customer a reason not to buy.
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Difference between Lee and Washington. Lee took up arms against his country. Washington did not. You can give me the he considered himself more a Virginian than American all you want but he did commit treason and he got off very easy. He died a free man who did not spend a day in prison.
Washington and Jefferson understood, absolutely, that if they’d lost they’d have been hanged. They willingly accepted that risk.
Robert E Lee… rebelled against a nation that was more forgiving than England would have been. He didn’t hang. He did lose his property though; Arlington National Cemetary is where it used to be.
re: #283 wheat-dogg
I voted for John Anderson in ‘80. I carry that shame still.
I liked the 1980 John Anderson and think he would have been an excellent President, but did not vote for him because I did not want Reagan to win.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for reading this:
Mike Huckabee: If General Lee statues come down then Mt. Rushmore is next
re: #371 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It’s been there for years and is well documented and yet folks are still trying to attribute ignorance or pure political calculation or cognitive impairment for it. He believes what he’s saying that’s why it’s so easy for the stuff that branch of the Admin pushes, to get through.
re: #375 Dr. Matt
Everyone in this room is now dumber for reading this:
Mike Huckabee: If General Lee statues come down then Mt. Rushmore is next
Black Elk sends his condolences.
re: #375 Dr. Matt
They’re not even good statues. pic.twitter.com/dRQkFg23i6
— Matt Ford (@fordm) August 17, 2017
re: #375 Dr. Matt
Everyone in this room is now dumber for reading this:
Mike Huckabee: If General Lee statues come down then Mt. Rushmore is next
Fuck yourself Huckleberry.
re: #375 Dr. Matt
Everyone in this room is now dumber for reading this:
Mike Huckabee: If General Lee statues come down then Mt. Rushmore is next
Hey, Mike, you claim to be a Christian, right? Why are you so fixated on a bunch of idols?
re: #376 JordanRules
It’s been there for years and is well documented and yet folks are still trying to attribute ignorance or pure political calculation or cognitive impairment for it.
We are supposed to listen to what is in his heart, not what seeps out his pie hole, remember?
re: #371 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump has been showing us his true side for years, but enough people have either refused to believe it or found excuses for who he is.
Growing harder and harder to overlook as time progresses…
Every other day during the campaign Trump revealed that he was a bigot, misogynist, racist, nativist, xenophobe, etc.
Every other day he was pushing tweets revealing his bigotry and hate, or actually quote tweeting white supremacists, and every fucking day the media would spin away from that and the GOP “leadership” would claim that they can’t speak to Trump’s tweets, often claiming that they are letting Trump be Trump in so many words.
No. Trump’s always been the bigot - and he hasn’t been shy about any of his bigotry. He’s a misogynist. He’s sexually assaulted women. He’s sided with the Nazis and white supremacists.
All of this is 100% crystal clear.
The only ones who still think that there’s a debate here are a bunch of GOP leaders who can’t quite figure out how to spin this so they don’t alienate the GOP base that believes Trump is right to promote these same positions - positions the GOP also holds as their own.
Rolling back civil and voting rights is a goal of the white supremacists and bigots.
Rolling back immigration and limiting it to white Christian Europeans is a white supremacist goal.
Those are the positions Trump espouses. He’s been espousing them all along. It’s essential to the core GOP positions on civil/voting rights and immigration.
The GOP would love to distinguish all this because they’ll use more legalistic words and arguments to validate the need to suppress voter turnout and limit civil rights but the end of the day the outcome is the same.
The GOP complaint about Trump again boils down to style, not substance. The substance isn’t the problem; it’s that Trump is too bluntly stated the GOP agenda for the GOP leadership to pivot from.
re: #372 Decatur Deb
Indeed. My purpose may be different at this point. But it isn’t bad to have choices for how and with whom you demonstrate I suppose.
re: #338 FormerDirtDart
BREAKING: Two armed men have entered a restaurant in Barcelona after van crash - local media https://t.co/CExDnzlJlb pic.twitter.com/LYx5Altsp6
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) August 17, 2017
OK, no one else seems to be reporting armed men, at all.
Interesting though, in the linked article, it mentions that there has been a bit of anti-tourism activity
In recent weeks, threatening graffiti against tourists has appeared in Barcelona. In one video released under the slogan “tourism kills neighborhoods”, several hooded individuals stopped a tourist bus in Barcelona, slashed the tyres and spray-painted the windscreen.
re: #375 Dr. Matt
Everyone in this room is now dumber for reading this:
Mike Huckabee: If General Lee statues come down then Mt. Rushmore is next
Stone Mountain, though….
re: #375 Dr. Matt
When every action leads inevitably down a slippery slope to chaos, it’s a wonder he can get out of bed in the morning.
re: #206 Dr. Matt
[Embedded content]
Woody Guthrie had something to say about Fred Trump. (not just a generic “white landlords” thing, he called out Trump by name.)
re: #384 FormerDirtDart
OK, no one else seems to be reporting this, at all.
Interesting though, in the linked article, it mentions that there has been a bit of anti-tourism activity
Sky News Live is reporting it:
They showed squads of armed LEOs maneuvering through the streets.
Today is not a good day for sleazemeister Ezra Levant.
MORE NEWS: Gavin McInnes is leaving The Rebel. https://t.co/nEVPspGGln
— CANADALAND (@CANADALAND) August 17, 2017
BREAKING and BREAKING some more. Stay tuned… https://t.co/Ir4H2bqedw
— Jesse Brown (@JesseBrown) August 17, 2017
Statement from @NCL_UK on The cancelling The Rebel Cruise: pic.twitter.com/Taipa5wEm7
— HOPE not hate (@hopenothate) August 17, 2017
Wow! Line of residents in Durham, NC attempting to turn themselves in for ‘crime’ of removing Confederate Monuments
(photo Katina Parker) pic.twitter.com/DjdNS8S6rc— Auburn (@AuburnSeminary) August 17, 2017
Israeli newspaper @YediotAhronot with a simple headline this morning:- SHAME pic.twitter.com/vS3wLu9yRe
— Ruth Marks Eglash (@reglash) August 17, 2017
UPDATE: Barcelona police say there was no shootout in El Corte Inglés department store pic.twitter.com/mKSVaPtExC
— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 17, 2017
Q poll: Majorities say Trump:
—Is not levelheaded
—Is not honest
—Has bad leadership skills
—Doesn’t care about avg. Americans pic.twitter.com/WypigrYr5e— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 17, 2017
re: #353 FormerDirtDart
Fucking LePage
Maine governor claims removing Confederate statutes is ‘just like’ destroying 9/11 Memorial thinkprogress.org …
twit
I can’t go back to work (telecommute) today, I’m still too weak.
I’m still shaking because one of my very close friends is in Barcelona and I was freaking out inside about her and her family’s well-being when the tweet was first posted. Though they’re fine, I’m still struggling to stay calm.
It’s different when you have someone very close to you in the area of the calamity.
The Barcelona van crashed into a crowd of patrons at a kosher restaurant. (“Jews will not replace us!”)
Juror No. 144 in the Martin Shkreli fraud case is the hero our country needs right now pic.twitter.com/KoQAWyCS5l
— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) August 16, 2017
re: #390 jaunte
Wow! Line of residents in Durham, NC attempting to turn themselves in for ‘crime’ of removing Confederate Monuments
That’s how it’s done, that civil disobedience thing.
re: #382 lawhawk
i’ve got extra updings for this one
A wee bit of good news:
BREAKING: State education commissioner removes Carl Paladino from Buffalo School Board. https://t.co/dPyPIfktnq
— Jay Rey (@jreybuffalo) August 17, 2017
.@realDonaldTrump buddy and bigot Carl Paladino booted from Buffalo school board. https://t.co/WpC5fTwmhI
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 17, 2017
re: #347 Birth Control Works
glad ya liked that response lol
re: #391 The Vicious Babushka
[Embedded content]
Too many in my family are part of the Netanyahu cult and therefore have supported Republicans. A friend who supports Netanyahu ( but was a Bernie fan!!) had been studying under an orthodox rabbi but quit once he learned that the rabbi voted for Trump. Netanyahu (whom I have detested since Rabin’s death) and his family don’t seem to have abandoned Trump, though. They are propagating the Trump notion that both sides are equally bad.
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
I hope you’re able to get rested and feel better!
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
Take care of yourself.
Whoosh, @AliVelshi & @SRuhle completely dunked on this Trump dude Brad Thomas. 😂😂😂pic.twitter.com/NDK5vE6Yfo
— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez) August 17, 2017
re: #397 The Vicious Babushka
The Barcelona van crashed into a crowd of patrons at a kosher restaurant. (“Jews will not replace us!”)
Oh shit.
re: #403 Dr. Matt
Local media in Barcelona are reporting 3 dead.
Shit. A local radio station in Barcelona is now reporting 13 dead. Hopefully it’s just a Spanish/Catalan to English mistranslation.
THREAD: White supremacists at #Charlottesville have close ties not just to Trump, but GOP & anti-choice groups.
— NARAL (@NARAL) August 16, 2017
re: #353 FormerDirtDart
Fucking LePage
[Embedded content]
Nah…it’d be more like some place in the US building a statue for Mohammed Attah, then removing that.
13 dead, and terrorists are barricaded inside a Turkish restaurant in Barcelona
re: #414 Mike Lamb
Only way that even makes sense is if LePage thinks the 9/11 memorial is commemorating al Qaeda and bin Laden. @thinkprogress
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 17, 2017
re: #392 FormerDirtDart
UPDATE: Barcelona police say there was no shootout in El Corte Inglés department store pic.twitter.com/mKSVaPtExC
— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 17, 2017
Makes sense, as the nearest El Corte Ingles to where the attack happened would be the main store on the other side of Placa Catalunyia to where the top of Las Ramblas starts, but the reports indicate the van entered Las Ramblas at that point and drove down towards the harbour direction, and come to a stop in the middle, near where Liceu Metro is.
I’ve been to Barcelona about 10 times, so I’m familiar with that area. If someone wanted to make a run for it, there would be plenty of places to hide in the old town areas either side of Las Ramblas, loads of twisty lanes, hidden corners, and the like.
I know how busy Las Ramblas can get during the day, and it can often be as busy at night, when it becomes a major artery of the locals walking between eateries, bars and clubs in the old town areas. I’m amazed there’s been so few casualties so far.
EDIT: Spoke too soon…
re: #412 Dr. Matt
Shit. A local radio station in Barcelona is now reporting 13 dead. Hopefully it’s just a Spanish/Catalan to English mistranslation.
Sky news is reporting 13 as well.
Picking a jury for the Martin Shkreli trial. harpers.org…
the court: The purpose of jury selection is to ensure fairness and impartiality in this case. If you think that you could not be fair and impartial, it is your duty to tell me. All right. Juror Number 1.
juror no. 1: I’m aware of the defendant and I hate him.
Attorney Brafman: I’m sorry.
juror no. 1: I think he’s a greedy little man.
the court: Jurors are obligated to decide the case based only on the evidence. Do you agree?
juror no. 1: I don’t know if I could. I wouldn’t want me on this jury.
the court: Juror Number 1 is excused. Juror 41, are you coming up?
juror no. 41: I was looking yesterday in the newspaper and I saw the defendant. There was something about him. I can’t be fair. There was something that didn’t look right.
the court: All right. I’m going to excuse you. Juror Number 59, come on up.
juror no. 59: Your Honor, totally he is guilty and in no way can I let him slide out of anything because —
the court: Okay. Is that your attitude toward anyone charged with a crime who has not been proven guilty?
juror no. 59: It’s my attitude toward his entire demeanor, what he has done to people.
the court: All right. We are going to excuse you, sir.
juror no. 59: And he disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan.
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
I can’t go back to work (telecommute) today, I’m still too weak.
keep those painted toes elevated!
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
I can’t go back to work (telecommute) today, I’m still too weak.
Take care of yourself VB
As the Right-to-Carry movement approaches 30-years, no states serve as better examples than #Missouri & #Florida #2A https://t.co/inJXV1usZB
— NRA (@NRA) August 17, 2017
.@NRA fails to mention: Missouri’s gun homicide rate is 47% higher than the U.S. average; Florida’s had 32% rise in gun homicides since 2005 https://t.co/xFkAurKGM7
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) August 17, 2017
Seeing lots of FL anti gov’t militias in #Charlottesville .The Republic of Florida militia: https://t.co/8QX96JH4n7 pic.twitter.com/gK83aNAmfF
— Gargoyle (@Patztense) August 17, 2017
What a shocker, Trump has yet to tweet about Barcelona.
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
I can’t go back to work (telecommute) today, I’m still too weak.
So we can assume there’ll be no pie today?
re: #417 lawhawk
Only way that even makes sense is if LePage thinks the 9/11 memorial is commemorating al Qaeda and bin Laden.
lepage is blathering - total rhetorical twaddle with no basis or merit
the only way that could ever make sense is first to give LePage credit for being sane
Stay tuned. Major, multiple Tick Tocks. 3 different fronts—MAJOR!!Patience, pieces are all falling in place.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) August 17, 2017
Beloved United States television clown Sean Hannity suffers world wide inter web net induced stroke, saddening millions of children. https://t.co/bB344UUYUA
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) August 17, 2017
re: #428 Skip Intro
Beloved United States television clown Sean Hannity suffers world wide inter web net induced stroke, saddening millions of children.
he does know how to captivate his marks
Wisconsin lawmakers debate billions in incentives for Foxconn plant https://t.co/Z7gAwWoTpA pic.twitter.com/FoK0SdHMPQ
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) August 17, 2017
Another one bites the dust:
BUSTED: Vermont white nationalist loses job at pizza chain after being spotted in Charlottesville
“Ryan Roy has been terminated,” Skip Weldon, chief marketing officer for Pizzeria Uno, told the publication. “We are committed to the fair treatment of all people and the safety of our guests and employees at our restaurants.”
In an interview with the Free Press, Roy decried the liberal activists who got him fired from his job and alleged they weren’t tolerant of his belief that white Americans should have their own country that is separate from all racial minorities.
“I think it kind of just proves my point, proves a lot of what I think, not that I needed further proof,” Roy said. “I think it’s group think.”
A freakin’ Nazi complains about “group think?” He could be fired just for lack of self awareness.
Fun fact: Ft Benning, in my hometown of Columbus, GA, is named after Confederate general Henry Benning, who said the following: pic.twitter.com/KKNNmWcwek
— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) August 17, 2017
Oh my goodness, I noticed on the Guardian live feed of the events in Barcelona, someone I know from from my time as a student at Glasgow Uni was there:
Aamer Anwar, civil rights lawyer and rector of Glasgow University, was on the Ramblas when the attack happened and ran for his life.
He saw scenes of terror after the attack:
It was jam packed with tourists, it was a beautiful sunny day. I heard a noise, a crashing noise. At the same time there were screams and people started to run. It was like an avalanche of people running, in front and behind me. People were jumping into shops, pulling their children out of prams. There was no room [on the Ramblas], it was swamped with families, children, and tourists. I saw a woman running, when we stopped she was screaming, because she could not see her children. Within 30 seconds I could see police officers with guns. One man told me there were five or six people seriously injured.
Anwar said 80 minutes after the incident, ambulances were still arriving at the scene. He was in Barcelona to speak at a conference on Catalan independence, being held this weekend.
Memo to alleged history buffs: Robert E. Lee said Civil War monuments “keep open the sores of war [&] civil strife” https://t.co/BJCxIFtXb2 pic.twitter.com/ol57nhqw6S
— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) August 17, 2017
re: #390 jaunte
Wow! Line of residents in Durham, NC attempting to turn themselves in for ‘crime’ of removing Confederate Monuments
Went back and through the twitter comments. Yeah, you can read the comments.
re: #431 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Another one bites the dust:
BUSTED: Vermont white nationalist loses job at pizza chain after being spotted in Charlottesville
A freakin’ Nazi complains about “group think?” He could be fired just for lack of self awareness.
Poor widdle Nazi.
President Trump alone has succeeded in bringing the Stock Market, Small Business Index and Consumer Comfort to ALL TIME HIGHS! #MAGA
— Jacob Wohl (@JacobAWohl) August 16, 2017
“Trump alone” hasn’t done a god damn thing other than claim credit for 8 years of hard work by @BarackObama https://t.co/bEradZiDg2
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 16, 2017
I’m pretty sure Trump doesn’t want the credit Obama deserves for trying to destroy America. https://t.co/OWy1E83P4N
— Bradley Shieler (@ShielerBradley) August 17, 2017
Look, accepting that you’re a moron is one thing, but you don’t need to go around announcing it in public. https://t.co/5hxYCvfXS4
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 17, 2017
Want to make sure you all saw this photo. It’s the line of people in Durham waiting to turn themselves in for toppling the Confed statue. pic.twitter.com/2SNtWuoR64
— Celeste Headlee (@CelesteHeadlee) August 17, 2017
Some of them were vocal about wanting to still own humans. https://t.co/qWDulEk9i5 pic.twitter.com/MXJ0H5cN3R
— KD (@Fly_Sistah) August 17, 2017
re: #439 HappyWarrior
Poor widdle Nazi.
“i should have the right to do whatever i want even if it negatively impacts my employer”
or shorter:
not my fault, employer owes me a job
even shorter
why i gotta work?
more shorter
i gotta work?
even less
i gotta?
and finally
“I” I I I I I I, me, me, me, me
re: #344 Birth Control Works
Do you think then we should look into HOW the militia was able to get all that equipment?
No, that couldn’t possibly be the problem…
re: #446 dangerman
“i should have the right to do whatever i want even if it negatively impacts my employer”
or shorter:
not my fault, employer owes me a job
even shorter
why i gotta work?
more shorter
i gotta work?
even less
i gotta?
and finally
“I” I I I I I I, me, me, me, me
It’s really hard for me to feel bad for someone who believes in an ideology that supports genocide for losing their job for well believing in said ideology.
re: #444 Kragar
[Want to make sure you all saw this photo. It’s the line of people in Durham waiting to turn themselves in for toppling the Confed statue.]
Used to be, you had a working movement if you stuffed the jails. Now you have to stuff a frickin’ database.
I believe in the importance of remembering, studying, and learning from history. These are the Civil War heroes we commemorate in my office. pic.twitter.com/jDsDYAkfJM
— Rep. Don Beyer (@RepDonBeyer) August 17, 2017
re: #440 Kragar
[Embedded content]
Per Charlie Pierce about the business leaders quitting his bogus groups (bold mine)
He has managed to become so reprehensible, and he has made the presidency* so utterly toxic, that the real leaders of American business, and the real owners of the country, are running away from him as though he’s a leprous beggar. He’s been president* for less than 200 days. In a purely academic sense, or as seen from the perspective of a person from Mars, this is quite a remarkable achievement. The ship, to borrow a legendary Irish newspaper headline, is deserting the sinking rats.
esquire.com
Heh
re: #453 BeachDem
Per Charlie Pierce about the business leaders quitting his bogus groups (bold mine)
He has managed to become so reprehensible, and he has made the presidency* so utterly toxic, that the real leaders of American business, and the real owners of the country, are running away from him as though he’s a leprous beggar. He’s been president* for less than 200 days. In a purely academic sense, or as seen from the perspective of a person from Mars, this is quite a remarkable achievement. The ship, to borrow a legendary Irish newspaper headline, is deserting the sinking rats.
esquire.com
Heh
Now that is what I call a proper burn…
Popcorn?
re: #446 dangerman
“i should have the right to do whatever i want even if it negatively impacts my employer”
or shorter:
not my fault, employer owes me a job
even shorter
why i gotta work?
more shorter
i gotta work?
even less
i gotta?
and finally
“I” I I I I I I, me, me, me, me
Well, at least macho nazi, Cantwell, doesn’t have to worry about getting fired, as it does not appear he has ever held any kind of fucking job, and admits:
PayPal was the most important part of my financial life
He seems like such a lovely person
re: #430 FormerDirtDart
And why would they be debating this? Because Wisconsin might never break even on the incentives. They’d be paying out billions now (that the state can ill afford) in the hopes that they’ll see a return in higher revenue down the road.
There are multiple studies that show these business development incentives are nothing but corporate welfare and don’t generate jobs/economic growth the proponents have long claimed
Republic of Florida (ROF) training video (Jefferson county, FL) https://t.co/yvfRQeHcSi pic.twitter.com/VhHqKlz0fq
— Gargoyle (@Patztense) August 17, 2017
Here come the Pillsbury Doughboys.
re: #451 wrenchwench
Used to be, you had a working movement if you stuffed the jails. Now you have to stuff a frickin’ database.
From the Durham timeline:
From the Durham timeline:
<☨☨ NEMESIS DONUT ☨☨ @LaPajamasNC 2h2 hours ago
these people have 4+ years experience with the #ForwardTogether movement. we’re all trained up here.
2 replies 3 retweets 65 likes<
That’s the key. You don’t pull an effective action out of thin air. If we plan to hit the streets, we should know by now who will be beside us and behind us.
Has Trump called the Spain deal terrorism yet or was it done by a bunch of misunderstood, self-defending Nazis?
re: #458 jaunte
Rage Against the Walmart Belt Aisle.
re: #439 HappyWarrior
Poor widdle Nazi.
Plenty of folks have gotten fired for failing to be conservative enough. For protesting Vietnam or (fill in police action) or police abuse.
Same guys that were proudly wearing shirts saying “Fuck Your Feelings”? now getting fired. Tiny violin etc.
It’s very clarifying for you to come out & wholeheartedly support neo-Confederates and neo-Nazis. Thanks for dropping the mask all the way.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 17, 2017
Big news: @clevelandclinic, which had held galas at @realDonaldTrump’s Mar-a-Lago since 2011, pulls out for next yr. https://t.co/8LyWZM92pg
— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) August 17, 2017
re: #459 Decatur Deb
From the Durham timeline:
☨☨ NEMESIS DONUT ☨☨ @LaPajamasNC 2h2 hours agothese people have 4+ years experience with the #ForwardTogether movement. we’re all trained up here.
2 replies 3 retweets 65 likesThat’s the key. You don’t pull an effective action out of thin air. If we plan to hit the streets, we should know by now who will be beside us and behind us.
I knew you’d get it.
Can we clone you?
Last really good community organizer we had went and became President. NOW look where we are!
/Not his fault
re: #460 b.d. (bill d.)
Has Trump called the Spain deal terrorism yet or was it done by a bunch of misunderstood, self-defending Nazis?
He’s “being kept abreast” (but Melon has sent thoughts and prayers, so all is well)
Thoughts and prayers to #Barcelona
— Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) August 17, 2017
FLOTUS reacts to Barcelona attack. We haven’t heard from @POTUS yet. White House says he’s being kept “abreast” by chief of staff https://t.co/OaZDIzsQvA
— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) August 17, 2017
Reminder:
There will be early morning rocketry tomorrow.
We’re launching a @NASA_TDRS comms satellite at 8:03am ET Friday! Hear mission experts today at 2pm ET: https://t.co/mzKW5uV4hS Q? #askNASA pic.twitter.com/Oyc4xTGMnE
— NASA (@NASA) August 17, 2017
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
The statues have been taken down, but here we are still talking about them.
HISTORY IS INTACT! https://t.co/ppBdgEAZ8U— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 17, 2017
re: #465 wrenchwench
I knew you’d get it.
Can we clone you?
Last really good community organizer we had went and became President. NOW look where we are!
/Not his fault
The world has enough old white male straight retirees.
When Hitler marched into Poland in 1939, my grandma was two years old. It was not immediately obvious that anything was changing in her town
— Katie (@YourRacingBelle) August 16, 2017
re: #453 BeachDem
My three concerns:
1. Trump is still serving a function w/r/t to certain kind of voter the GOP wants. They’re likely going to triangulate this shit in such a way that if they discard Trump it won’t be their fault.
1.1. Trump’s incompetence is what drives their distancing—well, someone definitely blinked for real with the neo-Nazi thing—but they might experiment with retaining every other aspect of the “elect ignorant demagogues” stratagem. So it might not be so much fleeing Trump as find a model with the same specs but in better condition.
2. Unfavorable polling may not correspond to actual votes in the breach. The defining feature of the GOP is reflexive voting. Going together with the “triangulation” thing, the GOP can set social distance between themselves and Trump, yet continue to pasture their voter blocs together.
2.1. Ramping up the sense of existential threat and us-versus-them can and will get people out, so the Trump problem can be “solved” by focusing on external strife. “Democrats made Trump policy fail” is already on the hoof. The easiest misdirection to pull if Trump is ousted is to blame liberals and point to a “radicalized” “socialist” left that is (marginally) louder. It would work.
3. The culture of political rhetoric has taken a lurch with Trump, and we won’t no how successful the new brand of demagogy is until we see what happens in 2018/2020. GOP gamesmanship is likely thinking in these terms as well. They’ll be watching the success of Trumpists and taking cues.
3.1. We should really be thinking in terms of “the next Trump” and “the better Trump” as time goes forward. The style worked, and people will copy it…but also people with the same ethos (or lack thereof) are also emboldened and know they have a home.
re: #466 BeachDem
He’s “being kept abreast” (but Melon has sent thoughts and prayers, so all is well)
[Embedded content]
How reassuring.
re: #469 Decatur Deb
The world has enough old white male straight retirees.
Don’t say that to Mr. w.
At least he has a ponytail. And hasn’t shaved his beard since 1969. (He cut it real short once in 1986.)
re: #468 Kragar
Trump is racking up quite the record of legislative and cultural accomplishment here:
1. Obamacare still lives (attempts to repeal and replace defeated twice).
2. No massive tax reductions (or any tax changes) yet.
3. No border wall
4. Muslims still here
5. Confederate monuments taken down all over.
Maybe Trump was right. There is winning going on.
re: #462 Unshaken Defiance
Plenty of folks have gotten fired for failing to be conservative enough. For protesting Vietnam or (fill in police action) or police abuse.
Same guys that were proudly wearing shirts saying “Fuck Your Feelings”? now getting fired. Tiny violin etc.
Exactly.
re: #462 Unshaken Defiance
Plenty of folks have gotten fired for failing to be conservative enough. For protesting Vietnam or (fill in police action) or police abuse.
Same guys that were proudly wearing shirts saying “Fuck Your Feelings”? now getting fired. Tiny violin etc.
People flying Don’t Tread on Me!! banners whine a lot.
re: #470 Kragar
[Embedded content]
Great story from Katie (and I love her even more for being a Gilmore Girls fan!)
re: #470 Kragar
[Embedded content]
My grandparents are all foreign born but my grandfather did talk about hearing about the cruelty of the Axis in his cousins’ Slovene village.
re: #469 Decatur Deb
We’ll still take a couple more of you!
There is this one who tweets a lot though… I do wish he would retire. I hate paying that guy’s salary.
re: #450 HappyWarrior
It’s really hard for me to feel bad for someone who believes in an ideology that supports genocide for losing their job for well believing in said ideology.
i agree and i will put a fine point on it
whether you can fire someone for being a nazi is a legal question beyond me- they’re not a protected class
these last few firings were not for their beliefs, necessarily
they were for the the damaging impact of displaying those beliefs in public that then got tied to their employers.
re: #474 Sir John Barron
Trump is racking up quite the record of legislative and cultural accomplishment here:
1. Obamacare still lives (attempts to repeal and replace defeated twice).
2. No massive tax reductions (or any tax changes) yet.
3. No border wall
4. Muslims still here
5. Confederate monuments taken down all over.Maybe Trump was right. There is winning going on.
Hey, he got the bikeshare station removed.
We can’t let our guard down for a minute, though, because the creeps are insidiously gutting all kinds of protections—i.e.
Trump Signs Order Rolling Back Environmental Rules on Infrastructure @LFFriedman https://t.co/LzxyzP8xSG
— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) August 17, 2017
re: #480 dangerman
i agree and i will put a fine point on it
whether you can fire someone for being a nazi is a legal question beyond me- they’re not a protected class
these last few firings were not for their beliefs, necessarily
they were for the the damaging impact of displaying those beliefs in public that then got tied to their employers.
Exactly,if I represented myself and my employer in a poor fashion, I’d be fired. It’s funny to see the people who think you should be able to fire someone for being gay crying about Nazis.
re: #395 The Vicious Babushka
Please take care! Hoping you will feel better soon and have a speedy recovery!!!!!
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
Donald Trump is politically inept, morally barren and temperamentally unfit for office https://t.co/xLDMtLclUw
— The Economist (@TheEconomist) August 17, 2017
re: #480 dangerman
i agree and i will put a fine point on it
whether you can fire someone for being a nazi is a legal question beyond me- they’re not a protected class
these last few firings were not for their beliefs, necessarily
they were for the the damaging impact of displaying those beliefs in public that then got tied to their employers.
Yep. The Company I work for has made this very clear. Do anything (on social media,etc.) that brings disrepute to the company and you’re history. We have to sign a form every year acknowledging this policy.
We laugh at ‘Florida Man’ but he bears watching.
A Convicted Domestic Terrorist Was at the Charlottesville Nazi March: https://t.co/H5T0UnOU2C via @warisboring
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) August 17, 2017
“…He was involved in a 1987 incident at Fort Bragg, North Carolina in which two armed men — toting weapons fitted with silencers and dressed completely in black — robbed two fellow soldiers of their M-16 rifles during a routine exercise. The soldiers told investigators the stickup men had shouted “This is for the KKK!” as they fled.
One of the attackers was Tubbs. The other was a warrant officer named Jeffrey Jennett.
The brazen holdup went unsolved for three years until Tubbs deployed to Middle East. That’s when Jennett’s wife tipped off authorities. Federal agents raided five weapons caches—including one at Tubbs’s home in Jacksonville.
Authorities seized several M-16s with military serial numbers, thousands of rounds of ammunition, 25 pounds of TNT, an anti-aircraft machine gun, anti-personnel land mines, numerous handguns and shotguns, a 40-millimeter grenade launcher, hand grenades, smoke grenades, tear gas, 45 pounds of C-4 and other weaponry.”
re: #474 Sir John Barron
Trump is racking up quite the record of legislative and cultural accomplishment here:
1. Obamacare still lives (attempts to repeal and replace defeated twice).
2. No massive tax reductions (or any tax changes) yet.
3. No border wall
4. Muslims still here
5. Confederate monuments taken down all over.Maybe Trump was right. There is winning going on.
There’s all kinds of shit being done. Appointing judges to lifetime appointments. Regulations being rescinded. A whole lot of bad things.
We have to stop focusing on Trump and his daily bullshit and look deeper. We are getting fucked daily.
re: #468 Kragar
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
This is about the most obvious Nazi coded tweet ever. Nazis are always whining about culture. His hood is completely removed.
re: #474 Sir John Barron
Trump is racking up quite the record of legislative and cultural accomplishment here:
1. Obamacare still lives (attempts to repeal and replace defeated twice).
2. No massive tax reductions (or any tax changes) yet.
3. No border wall
4. Muslims still here
5. Confederate monuments taken down all over.Maybe Trump was right. There is winning going on.
Sadly, he is quite effective at sending lists of Federalist Society judicial nominations to Grassley; those nominees are filling slots at record pace. Mostly youngish. The results of this is federal courts will be extremely right-wing for decades.
Everyone watched you say those things. It’s pathetic to try to blame it on media, but your delusional followers will eat it up.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 17, 2017
re: #474 Sir John Barron
Trump is racking up quite the record of legislative and cultural accomplishment here:
1. Obamacare still lives (attempts to repeal and replace defeated twice).
2. No massive tax reductions (or any tax changes) yet.
3. No border wall
4. Muslims still here
5. Confederate monuments taken down all over.Maybe Trump was right. There is winning going on.
But, Trump removed the White House Bikeshare Station! Take THAT libs!
re: #492 MsJ
There’s all kinds of shit being done. Appointing judges to lifetime appointments. Regulations being rescinded. A whole lot of bad things.
We have to stop focusing on Trump and his daily bullshit and look deeper. We are getting fucked daily.
We have to keep watch over those, but other than documenting and the occasional lawsuit, there’s not a whole lot we can do about these until elections come around.
re: #497 Belafon
We have to keep watch over those, but other than documenting and the occasional lawsuit, there’s not a whole lot we can do about these until elections come around.
In some cases, not even after.
Fuck you libtards, YOU LOST.
— Max Perde (@MaxPerde) August 17, 2017
re: #495 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
they totally show clips and quote what i said
why cant they just say im great?
oh, and “waaah”
.@NancyPelosi: “I call upon @SpeakerRyan to join Dems to remove Confederate statues from the Capitol immediately.” https://t.co/d5H6woiX84
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) August 17, 2017
“There is no room for celebrating the violent bigotry of the men of the Confederacy in the hallowed halls of the United States Capitol or in places of honor across the country.”
“If Republicans are serious about rejecting white supremacy,” she said, “I call upon Speaker Ryan to join Democrats to remove the Confederate statues from the Capitol immediately.”
re: #440 Kragar
President Trump alone has succeeded in bringing the Stock Market, Small Business Index and Consumer Comfort to ALL TIME HIGHS! #MAGA
The Economist says no
—and the booming stockmarket and low unemployment owe more to the global economy, tech firms and dollar weakness than to him
The United States condemns the terror attack in Barcelona, Spain, and will do whatever is necessary to help. Be tough & strong, we love you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017
So it’s “a terror attack” in Barcelona, but he won’t say that of Charlottesville. https://t.co/Y543WfzkIu
— Jackie Calmes (@jackiekcalmes) August 17, 2017
re: #449 dangerman
not being pedantic
that may not even be true without the word ‘“current” all time highs
and no, im not gonna do the research
Well, the stock market is definitely at an all time high; but cannot attest to the other indices. Remember, occasionally Trump may say something true, probably by accident.
Our head of state is trying to micromanage the social opprobrium falling on neo-Nazis and all Republicans can think to do with their power on the Hill is cut taxes and social benefits.
this will not wash off the GOP
italics mine
re: #510 Bubblehead II
Is it an indoor one, or are you stringing up lights for the house?
The latest target of the fascist left pic.twitter.com/x8vzDHFaF3
— Dinesh D’Souza (@DineshDSouza) August 17, 2017
No, it’s not. Locals say the bust was destroyed by fireworks on July 4th. https://t.co/BRJ6DBJxKP https://t.co/ottxu2eF6m
— Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) August 17, 2017
re: #512 Hecuba’s daughter
Well, the stock market is definitely at an all time high; but cannot attest to the other indices. Remember, occasionally Trump may say something true, probably by accident.
i might have been too oblique
the market has been going up up up since the 70’s
probably all presidents saw all time highs - at their time
even gwb was in office long enough to see highs, just not at the end
i cant speak for the other indices
re: #442 Skip Intro
I love how Toles draws him as the pig he is.
re: #514 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Is it an indoor one, or are you stringing up lights for the house?
Outdoors. I will probably be lighting up the house as well as a set of over head mesh lights (aka stars). Also going to have to do some landscaping around the arbor.
re: #484 HappyWarrior
Exactly,if I represented myself and my employer in a poor fashion, I’d be fired. It’s funny to see the people who think you should be able to fire someone for being gay crying about Nazis.
Or for having an Obama bumper sticker on their car.
Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory Just Captured Ominous Signals About the Planet’s Health Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory just captured an ominous sign about the pace of global warming. Atmospheric levels of planet-warming carbon dioxide aren’t just on their way to yet another record high this year - they’re rising faster than ever, ...
Cheechako
The Good Liars at the Schnecksville Trump Rally [VIDEO] New theories, great tunes and SHOCKING breaking news. SUPPORT US: http://Herohero.co/thegoodliars SEE THE GOOD LIARS LIVE!WASHINGTON D.C. MAY 23RD: https://www.unionstage.com/shows/good-liars-fix-america/NASHVILLE, TN JUNE 6TH: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/42992972/the-good-liars-nashville-the-lab-at-zaniesSAN FRANCISCO, CA JUNE 25TH: https://www.livenation.com/event/G5vYZbavGvggG/the-good-liars SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-liars-tell-the-truth/id1731178442Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7mgfiwzr32907N4y68eFOCJoin this channel ...
teleskiguy
Trump’s “Stolen Election” Lie Based on Evidence From Pervy Bathroom Cam-Spy OK, this really takes the cake. If you have relatives that still cling to the “election was stolen, dadgum, I jes’ KNOW IT … This should be a slight remedy to the stubborn madness Thanks to online anonymity, the ...
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
William Lewis
Gateway Pundit, Sued by Election Workers, Declares BankruptcyA onetime favorite, now just pathetic figure around these parts, Jim Hoft aka SMOTI ("Stupidest Man On The Internet"), has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in response to the defamation lawsuits filed against him to the same election workers that ... Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
