The Bob Cesca Show: Return of the Pee Pee Tape

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Return of the Pee Pee Tape: TV’s Kimberley Johnson is here; Decision Desk’s Forecast for 2018; Good news and bad news; Don’t Get Happy; Bernie supporters who voted for Trump; Jill Stein’s supporters love Confederates and Putin; Trump’s transgender ban continues; Trump’s war against McConnell and the GOP; More obstruction of justice; Trump only makes bad decisions; Impeachment and Primary Challengers; The Pee Pee Tape Dossier is back; Newt Gingrich is an idiot; and much more.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2017 • 8:59:11pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:04:33pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

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And did they do the “Boot Scootin’ Boogie”?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:07:42pm

re: #2 Barefoot Grin

And did they do the “Boot Scootin’ Boogie”?

I think that’s kinda mandatory

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:08:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:23:01pm

RE: Border checkpoints
The colonias in south Texas are basically shanty-towns. They are horribly vulnerable to wind and flood damage. In a hurricane they are death traps.
If we had a decent human being rather than a Trump henchman as governor, he would be on the phone begging Trump to declare at least a temporary amnesty for people fleeing the hurricane.
This could be a monumental disaster.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:23:38pm

re: #3 Eventual Carrion

I think that’s kinda mandatory

The first time I went to a “country” bar was a place called the Neon Cactus in West Lafayette, IN. It was in a former Sears or Kmart building, so it had a dance floor in the middle and little mini bars around the perimeter. The waitresses all wore short pants under ass-revealing chaps. And there was this constant Nazi-like line dancing going on in the middle on the dance floor. I was young and impressed with the waitress get up, but was repelled by both the cowboys and their gals stomping out unsyncopated beats to songs about a simpler life.

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:24:20pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Oh, God, I hate those people! How they can call themselves human I don’t know.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:24:28pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

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Blind trust

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:24:32pm

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

“We got both kinds, country and western.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:26:29pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:28:44pm
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jaunte  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:32:34pm

Live market research.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:42:26pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Firefighter: “Where did you say you got this sausage?” (pushing plate away) “Oh. I see.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:43:30pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:49:28pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I am not a vegan, or one to humanize pigs, but Jesus Christ on a crutch, that’s diabolical. It should be a law that any animal rescued by firefighters should have a lifetime reprieve from the slaughterhouse.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:52:07pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ol’ Orrin shows his true colors, the colors of sociopathy.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:52:49pm

re: #11 Jebediah, RBG

I’m someone who eats meat. I grew up on a farm raising beef and poultry for eggs and eating. So I know where my food comes from.

These pigs were always going to be food for humans and , presumably, went to a less terrifying and painful death than being burned alive. So, I’m sorry, but as an omnivore, I see no problem with this story.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 9:55:44pm

re: #17 William Lewis

“These cute piglets got saved by firefighters and the firefighters ate them! So beautiful!”

No. That’s fucked up.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:00:21pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

6 months after the fire, they had lived as long as they were going to without the fire. I realize modern people don’t like to eat anything they’re looked in the face, but why are those pigs (not piglets) really any different from the ones the last time you ate bacon?

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:04:02pm

Humans, a virus with shoes. One day the planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:05:28pm

re: #19 William Lewis

I agree, but I think Hatch’s tweet was in incredibly bad taste. Most people don’t have farm backgrounds anymore, and it will hit a lot of people like a punch in the gut.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:06:45pm

Rapid intensification taking place as we speak.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:07:20pm

re: #21 retired cynic

I agree, but I think Hatch’s tweet was in incredibly bad taste. Most people don’t have farm backgrounds anymore, and it will hit a lot of people like a punch in the gut.

Yeah, I’m kind of ambivalent on the story itself but the tweet …I would describe things like seeing a dog reunited with its owner after time apart as “beautiful.” Not a story about how firefighters saved pigs so they could eat them later.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:07:59pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

I remember yesterday that the weather gurus were saying that Harvey was going to be a massive rain event and nothing more. Now it’ll become a Cat 3 by morning, maybe worse.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:09:27pm

re: #21 retired cynic

Point. I was referring to the original article myself.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:10:59pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

I remember yesterday that the weather gurus were saying that Harvey was going to be a massive rain event and nothing more. Now it’ll become a Cat 3 by morning, maybe worse.

Harvey was going to be a mess even as just a massive rain event and that still hasn’t gone away either, since it’s still projected to stall for a few days along the coast. There’s some possibility that it’ll then swing out to the gulf again before swinging by to say hello to Louisiana.

Hoping for a better result than what is currently looking likely.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:11:44pm

re: #19 William Lewis

6 months after the fire, they had lived as long as they were going to without the fire. I realize modern people don’t like to eat anything they’re looked in the face, but why are those pigs (not piglets) really any different from the ones the last time you are bacon?

As a child you were probably told not to give names to meat animals. A name is an emotional investment and once you have an emotional investment in an animal, it ceases to be food. It may not be entirely logical or consistent but we, collectively, did make such an investment in these particular animals. It is purely emotional but such emotions are among the things that help to make us human.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:12:27pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Harvey was going to be a mess even as just a massive rain event and that still hasn’t gone away either, since it’s still projected to stall for a few days along the coast.

I never implied that Harvey wasn’t dangerous.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:14:26pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

I never implied that Harvey wasn’t dangerous.

I don’t believe I said you did.

I was simply saying that Harvey is still going to be a massive rain event.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:18:20pm
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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:20:41pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Actually we did name all the handful of cattle. I still remember most of the names and I dearly enjoyed the hamburger that came from Nutsy - that cow was insane by bovine standards and near killed me and Dad a couple of times.

But I’ll admit, it wasn’t typical. I also always gave a prayer for their lives much as for a deer when hunting later in life.

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:30:47pm

re: #19 William Lewis

I don’t eat anything made from pigs. I am not a vegetarian, but when I found out that pigs have about the same intelligience as a dog or a three-year-old I got too skeeved to ever eat it again.
But I would still have been horrified regardless of their species. Yes, I know all about how inconsistent and logically wrong I am. Doesn’t change my mind.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:38:34pm

re: #17 William Lewis

I’m someone who eats meat. I grew up on a farm raising beef and poultry for eggs and eating. So I know where my food comes from.

These pigs were always going to be food for humans and , presumably, went to a less terrifying and painful death than being burned alive. So, I’m sorry, but as an omnivore, I see no problem with this story.

Praise pork belly!!

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:45:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:49:04pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Rapid intensification taking place as we speak.

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Gosh where are the Trump Pulpit Pimps? Aren’t they going to have a prayer orgy to get The Big G to turn that storm back to sea?

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:50:13pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh where are the Trump Pulpit Pimps? Aren’t they going to have a prayer orgy to get The Big G to turn that storm back to sea?

Joel Osteen’s ministry is in Houston.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 24, 2017 • 10:58:44pm

On reflection, I think what bothered me about the piglet story wasn’t that the animals were killed; that is their lot in life; but that they were served to the firefighters as a token of gratitude. That relationship, rescuer and rescued, would seem to entail a perceived emotional investment beyond that of a random pork consumer, even if the firefighters themselves didn’t feel it. I could be wrong. Though rare, that has happened.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:00:28pm
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I cannot.  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:04:14pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Agreed, I don’t feel horrified by eating meat, though I can’t and won’t grow my own because of the emotional investment that I would inevitably have.

But RESCUING them, and then hey, SAUSAGE! That…NOPE, hell no.

Bishop Bullwinkle Hell To Da Naw,Naw,Naw With Da Bicycle

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:07:34pm

My brother-in-law lives outside Houston in the direction of the Gulf. My wife will be calling later to see if he is going to evacuate north (Nebraska should be far enough).

Wingnut radio host who is not a scientist Sam Clovis has been nominated by Donald Trump to be chief scientist at the Department of Agriculture.

Democrats are going to fight that nomination, but would require flipping a couple of Republicans to defeat that.

Time for me to limber up my pen to write my senators and newspaper again.

wonkette.com

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:07:59pm

Shitheads do sometimes see the light. Case in point:

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:17:25pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

I can’t read it either here or on Twitter. One-point type is too small for my glasses prescription.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:28:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:38:15pm

The weather is not looking good for my brother-in-law. According to the National Weather Service Hurricane Local Statement, much of the area could be uninhabitable for weeks or months.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2017 • 11:38:58pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:02:55am

A quarter of the Gulf of Mexico is covered by Harvey’s clouds.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:04:53am

Yum, piglet sausages.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:15:29am

Juanita Jean on Hurricane Harvey (she is warning people to pay attention on her blog):

That’s not the big problem, though [referring to 125 mph winds]. The big problem is that the damn thing is forecast to stall just inland until as late as Tuesday before dissipating. It’s going to dump a LOT of rain on the coastal areas, and Houston is going to see its share. Back at El Jefe’s Beer & Bread Emporium, we call this kind of storm a Clear Up Shower. Clear up to your ass. Forecast rains for Houston could be 12″ to 18″ of rain through Sunday into Monday.

juanitajean.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:18:18am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

Juanita Jean on Hurricane Harvey (she is warning people to pay attention on her blog):

juanitajean.com

The Invisible Hand of the Free Market will deal with Invisible Giant Harvey just fine!

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:18:18am

Hello from Brookings, OR! In fire news today we are now at 102,333 acres consumed, up about 2,400 acres from yesterday. Good humidity recovery inland combined with the minimal winds for the last few days have allowed the firefighters to build lines flanking the fire along with contingency lines behind them. Helicopter water drops, firefighters fortifying private lands by setting up sprinkler systems, downing trees and more continue in preparation for a possible Chetco Effect (strong NE winds) over the area for the next 36 hours. All of Brookings-Harbor have been placed under a Level 1 Evacuation Notice (pay attention to news regarding the fire and prepare for evacuation) and water use has been restricted (up to $720 fine for violations).

Locals who have been allowed to return to areas north of Brookings have been asked to slow down on their back roads because of fender benders caused by morons hauling ass (as usual) and new arrivals driving huge rigs on narrow, twisty coastal roads that they have never been on before. I’m not surprised one bit by that announcement as I know some of the special snowflakes that live out in that area.

We are up to 1,174 firefighters, up 104 from yesterday. It’s easy to spot the guys who come off of the lines and boy do they look grimy and whipped. It’s a nice thing that temps have been low here, giving them a place to recover, rest and cool off between rounds of firefighting. The Chetco Effect winds were expected to start up tonight (N/NE winds to 8 MPH forecast) but so far (almost midnight) it’s been calm (little to no wind) here in town. The wind at the airport (north end of town) is coming from the N/NE at 2 MPH, no gusting, and the current temp is 53. Temp today was forecast at 67 and we only hit 62, winds were mixed with light smoke in the AM that cleared around noon. The fog burned off around 9 AM but the skies held a light marine haze for most of the day that helped to keep temps down. Tomorrow was initially forecast to hit 71 but that has been revised to 80 degrees, not good if combined with the Chetco Effect. Inland conditions are such that the Chetco Effect could happen but our lower than expected temp tonight (53 right now, 55 forecast) may help to inhibit the formation of the effect. The marine layer was expected to return tonight but it has not (as of yet).

A lot hinges on what weather we get tomorrow and even if we make it past this event we have to worry about the next one and so on until the fall rains return to extinguish it, just like last time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:21:47am

re: #45 teleskiguy

Bush wasn’t impeached over Katrina. I wouldn’t expect it for Trump and Harvey.

As far as I can tell, the Feds have done nothing to prepare for this storm, despite days of warning.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:23:02am

Warhammer time

Ahriman

Across a thousand worlds, Ahriman has sought the keys to save what he has already destroyed. The scars of his obsession have made his name a curse in the mouths of humans and aliens alike. Scraps of lore, artefacts both obscure and profane, and rare souls draw him like a raven to a corpse. To the Eldar, he is the carrion scribe who eats the souls of their dying race for secrets, to the Inquisitors of the Ordo Malleus he is the lightning rod which brings a storm of Daemons, amongst the servants of Chaos he is a flame of power and trickery as likely to burn those drawn to his light as to illuminate them.

A master of subtle manipulation, Ahriman has seeded cults on a hundred worlds, and bent the desires of the powerful to achieve his ends. With conspiracies and plots spread across the galaxy, he coils between them, a puppet master pulling invisible strings. When such subtle means are impossible he wages a sorcerer’s war, forcing armies to kneel with visions of terror, shattering war machines with invisible forces, and ripping the souls from mighty heroes. He knows the true names of daemons, and possesses pacts which can bring armies flocking to his call. Worlds have burned at his command, billions have fallen to the hunger of the Warp, and reality has bled at the fury of his power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:23:27am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Bush wasn’t impeached over Katrina. I wouldn’t expect it for Trump and Harvey.

As far as I can tell, the Feds have done nothing to prepare for this storm, despite days of warning.

DT knows he can do little or nothing about it and it will not harm him, so why bother?

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:26:25am

Florida executed a white man who killed a black man, first time in state history. They used a new drug never before tried in a lethal injection.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:28:22am

re: #54 teleskiguy

Florida executed a white man who killed a black man, first time in state history. They used a new drug never before tried in a lethal injection.

I can already seeing this being spun as a story of liberal Dr Mengeles conducting trials on how to exterminate the entire White Race…

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:29:47am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT knows he can do little or nothing about it and it will not harm him, so why bother?

A major hurricane (Cat III or greater) is always a disaster. The test is how the government responds, and with all the anti-government wingnuts and nihilists in the GOP right now, I fully expect them to foul up the response.

That could hurt Trump if he is still around in the next Presidential election, and Texas has the most electoral votes of any red state. Additionally, the 2018 Congressional election is closer and might see some wingnuts (like Louie Gohmert, who’s district is a target) tossed as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:31:20am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

A major hurricane (Cat III or greater) is always a disaster. The test is how the government responds, and with all the anti-government wingnuts and nihilists in the GOP right now, I fully expect them to foul up the response.

That could hurt Trump if he is still around in the next Presidential election, and Texas has the most electoral votes of any red state. Additionally, the 2018 Congressional election is closer and might see some wingnuts (like Louie Gohmert, who’s district is a target) tossed as well.

This could hurt Trump if we lived in a normal country where politicians are called to answer for their record of service.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:37:29am

Back to Juanita Jean, who is preparing for the hurricane strike (she lives near my brother-in-law) - She is bashing on certain Clinton supporter claims about Sanders supporters:

Yesterday, Newsweek published a story accusing Bernie voters of tipping the 2016 election to Trump. It uses data from the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, compiled by Political Wire, that showed that, indeed, 10% of Bernie primary voters went for Trump in the general. It then goes into a swing state analysis that showed that Trump’s winning margin was less than the Bernie’s voters who went for Trump. The implication was clear - stubborn Bernie voters wrecked Hillary’s bid for the presidency. How evil they were and inconsiderate of Hillary and all of her supporters. Fair enough.

There was an interesting mention, though, of a few not insignificant details at the very end of the article…First, the 10% of Bernie voters that went for Trump paled in comparison to the TWENTY FIVE percent of Hillary voters who went for McCain in 2008 (hypocrisy, anyone?). More important, and one that I hadn’t realized was so large, was that almost 30% of Bernie voters were actually self identified Republican or leaned Republican. Conversely, Hillary only attracted about 6 or 7% of the same demographic.

More at juanitajean.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:38:54am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Back to Juanita Jean, who is preparing for the hurricane strike (she lives near my brother-in-law) - She is bashing on certain Clinton supporter claims about Sanders supporters:

More at juanitajean.com

It simply highlights the degree of Machiavellian ratfucking that went on during the campaign…

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:39:20am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Bernie Sanders can eat glass and shit entrails for all I care, fuckin’ piece of shit.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:44:41am

I have no doubt that Bernie Sanders is going to ratfuck the 2018 midterm elections as much as he can because he’s a fuckin’ egomaniac a lot like Fuckface Von Clownstick. He’ll sow divisions among Democrats gleefully, implement purity tests, and denounce good and strong Democrats like Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, all the while getting fat and rich off his drooling sycophant followers. Bernie can die in a fire.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:49:38am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It simply highlights the degree of Machiavellian ratfucking that went on during the campaign…

The comments on that article aren’t very kind to the blogger.

The single biggest issue I can see from my critical political perch in the middle of nowhere is the large portion of the electorate that simply didn’t care to turn out to vote. Either forty years of “government is the enemy” by conservatives or “my vote doesn’t matter” or “both parties are the same” propaganda from the right had the greatest impact.

Maybe a single vote in a national election doesn’t matter so much, but in state and local ones they do.

In our last local election (we have a jungle election where the seats are filled from the top vote getters), I won by four votes. The gun shop owner tied in the election with one of the liberal independents and the election was decided by lot (in their case drawing a card from a deck) in accordance with state law.

The gun shop owner asked me how to mount a recount, so though he and I are about opposite in everything, I researched the information for him. He called a recount, which still came out a tie.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:53:46am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This could hurt Trump if we lived in a normal country where politicians are called to answer for their record of service.

tr*mp will be impeached and removed from office by Congressional Republicans if he fucks up the upcoming GOP effort to reduce taxes on the rich.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:56:41am

The BernieBots will, I think, burn (or is that bern) out on their gimmick of being anti-DNC.

Ultimately there is no real value in politics for only being anti-this or anti-that. You have to actually be for something that at least a small majority (even if it is only 51%) want.

The clear problem of the wingnut Republican party is that they are now drowning in their own anti-everything. Anti-Obama, anti-UN, anti-science, etc. It is all about whining and rejection of modernity. They aren’t really for anything other than hating on the brown folk, the foreigner, etc.

This is one reason why the ACA repeal went down in flames. For all their years of whining, the GOP really had no well thought out plan. They were just on an anti-Obama high.

So the BernieBots are going to have to come to terms with real politics if they are going to continue to exist. Otherwise they will simply fade when their cult leader finally fades, which given his age is not too far off.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:01:58am

re: #64 freetoken

Bernie Sanders needs to fuck off. He’s caused too much trouble to be forgiven at this point.

That said, the Democrats need to beef up their ideas on how to deal with economic issues. Economic populism is in the air, and it cannot be left only to demagogues like tr*mp to respond to this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:04:25am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

As far as I can tell, the Feds have done nothing to prepare for this storm, despite days of warning.

FAKE NEWS!! THERE IS NO HURRICANE!!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:06:11am

Bernie may be neck deep in legal trouble by 2018.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:08:17am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

The satellite shows in the latest image a tiny eye reformed with extremely cold (thus high) cloud tops around it:
ssd.noaa.gov

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:09:35am

Trump FEMA Chief Supports Cutting Coverage for Flood-Prone Homes

President Donald Trump’s emergency management director said he’s pushing for an overhaul of disaster relief so that states, cities and homeowners bear more of the costs, and less of the risk falls on the federal government.

Brock Long, who was confirmed in June as the administrator at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said taxpayers shouldn’t be on the hook for homes that keep flooding, and the threshold for triggering federal public assistance after a disaster might be too low. He also expressed support for an Obama administration idea to make local governments pay more when a hurricane or flood hits.

“I don’t think the taxpayer should reward risk going forward,” Long said in an interview in his office at FEMA’s headquarters in Washington. “We have to find ways to comprehensively become more resilient.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:10:25am

re: #63 EPR-radar

tr*mp will be impeached and removed from office by Congressional Republicans if he fucks up the upcoming GOP effort to reduce taxes on the rich.

The only people in a position to remove Trump are the GOP leadership, and a majority of them have to decide that it is in their long-term interest to do so.

Do not see that happening soon.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:12:44am

Brownsville radar loop staring to look ominous:

radar.weather.gov

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:15:39am

All Trump needs to do is go down to Texas with a bullhorn and a flag, spew off some hateful nonsense and he will finally be “presidential”. Tweety will get a semi, MoDo will lionize Trump and if the universe is really twisted, J Rubin will have her MAGA hat on for her column pic.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:16:38am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only people in a position to remove Trump are the GOP leadership, and a majority of them have to decide that it is in their long-term interest to do so.

Do not see that happening soon.

That’s also how I see it, which is why I think tr*mp gets the boot if he fucks up the GOP’s tax cuts. The GOP donor class would light bonfires under the asses of Congressional Republicans if that were to happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:16:59am

re: #72 Amory Blaine

All Trump needs to do is go down to Texas with a bullhorn and a flag, spew off some hateful nonsense and he will finally be “presidential”. Tweety will get a semi, MoDo will lionize Trump and if the universe is really twisted, J Rubin will have her MAGA hat on for her column pic.

as I said, we no longer live in a normal country where public servants are expected to serve the public.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:19:03am

Trump is going nowhere even if tax cuts don’t get passed (haha). The owner class will just find another way to weasel out of their responsibilities. Criminal courts and resigning, that’s it.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:25:43am

Stock photo of David Koch looking for a tax cut.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:28:44am

re: #20 teleskiguy

Humans, a virus with shoes. One day the planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:30:09am

re: #68 freetoken

The satellite shows in the latest image a tiny eye reformed with extremely cold (thus high) cloud tops around it:
ssd.noaa.gov

The last couple frames of the loop show (to my untrained eye) the storm turning more north, which puts Houston (and my bro- and sis-in-law) in more direct danger.

My brother-in-law said as he prepares to leave the area that his largely Christian neighbours are staying, trusting in God to protect their lives and property. That reminds me of the old joke about God sending a boat and a helicopter to save people stranded on a roof.

Many of his neighbours are simply not preparing at all for a Cat III hurricane their faith is so great (or they forgot what Hurricane Rita did to the area).

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:30:23am

Meanwhile, an interesting paleontology discovery:

Dinosaur trio roosted together like birds

The fossilized remains of three young dinosaurs who seem to have been snuggled together in sleep have been found in a stone block that poachers hacked out of the Mongolian desert.

[…]

Image: Block%20Fig%20Simple_web.jpg

Bird-like behavior.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:31:31am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Harvey was expected to stall as it neared land, very slowly turning north. It appears to be doing so now. It might spend a whole day just creeping. This is why flood risk is so high.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:32:08am

re: #32 Jebediah, RBG

I don’t eat anything made from pigs. I am not a vegetarian, but when I found out that pigs have about the same intelligience as a dog or a three-year-old I got too skeeved to ever eat it again.
But I would still have been horrified regardless of their species. Yes, I know all about how inconsistent and logically wrong I am. Doesn’t change my mind.

But bacon tastes sooooo good!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:32:23am

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Trump FEMA Chief Supports Cutting Coverage for Flood-Prone Homes

And the overwhelming majority of coastal flood areas are GOP voters.

Societies, how do they work? The GOP is much better at this nihilist libertarian ideology of 320 million individuals with bootstraps than the Libertarian Party ever was.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:35:01am

re: #71 freetoken

Brownsville radar loop staring to look ominous:

radar.weather.gov

Houston radar loop isn’t looking good either:

radar.weather.gov

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:37:41am

I love it when Charles is on Bob Cesca’s show. He has such a great presence with the spoken word.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:39:31am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Bush wasn’t impeached over Katrina. I wouldn’t expect it for Trump and Harvey.

As far as I can tell, the Feds have done nothing to prepare for this storm, despite days of warning.

I wonder what rwnj radio show host is currently running FEMA? Or has Trump just left the position vacant?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:41:13am

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:44:00am

re: #63 EPR-radar

tr*mp will be impeached and removed from office by Congressional Republicans if he fucks up the upcoming GOP effort to reduce taxes on the rich.

No, Congressional Republicans will fuck it up themselves. Trump doesn’t get impeached unless incontrovertible evidence of him personally committing major crimes is produced.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:44:09am

Handy link for Harvey satellite images and loops:
ssd.noaa.gov

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:48:06am

Because it’s always hoot to see what shows up on PhilPapers:

Suicidal Utopian Delusions in the 21st Century-Philosophy, Human Nature and the Collapse of Civilization 2nd Ed 401p (2017)

This collection of articles was written over the last 10 years and edited them to bring them up to date (2017). The copyright page has the date of the edition and new editions will be noted there as I edit old articles or add new ones. All the articles are about human behavior (as are all articles by anyone about anything), and so about the limitations of having a recent monkey ancestry (8 million years or much less depending on viewpoint) and manifest words and deeds within the framework of our innate psychology as presented in the table of intentionality. As famous evolutionist Richard Leakey says, it is critical to keep in mind not that we evolved from apes, but that in every important way, we are apes. If everyone was given a real understanding of this (i.e., of human ecology and psychology to actually give them some control over themselves), maybe civilization would have a chance. As things are however the leaders of society have no more grasp of things than their constituents and so collapse into anarchy is inevitable. The first group of articles attempt to give some insight into how we behave that is reasonably free of theoretical delusions. In the next three groups I comment on three of the principal delusions preventing a sustainable world— technology, religion and politics (cooperative groups). Certainly each has much of value, but as currently implemented, they are all band aids on the cancer of selfishness and stupidity, and as handmaidens of selfish genetics lead straight to Hell on Earth. It is critical to understand why we behave as we do and so the first section presents articles that try to describe (not explain as Wittgenstein insisted) behavior. I start with a brief review of the logical structure of rationality, which provides some heuristics for the description of language (mind, rationality, personality) and gives some suggestions as to how this relates to the evolution of social behavior. This centers around the two writers I have found the most important in this regard, Ludwig Wittgenstein and John Searle, whose ideas I combine and extend within the dual system (two systems of thought) framework that has proven so useful in recent thinking and reasoning research. As I note, there is in my view essentially complete overlap between philosophy, in the strict sense of the enduring questions that concern the academic discipline, and the descriptive psychology of higher order thought (behavior). Once one has grasped Wittgenstein’s insight that there is only the issue of how the language game is to be played, one determines the Conditions of Satisfaction (what makes a statement true or satisfied etc.) and that is the end of the discussion. Since philosophical problems are the result of our innate psychology, or as Wittgenstein put it, due to the lack of perspicuity of language, they run throughout human discourse and behavior, so there is endless need for philosophical analysis, not only in the ‘human sciences’ of philosophy, sociology, anthropology, political science, psychology, history, literature, religion, etc., but in the ‘hard sciences’ of physics, mathematics, and biology. It is universal to mix the language game questions with the real scientific ones as to what the empirical facts are. Scientism is ever present and the master has laid it before us long ago, i.e., Wittgenstein (hereafter W) beginning with the Blue and Brown Books in the early 1930’s. “Philosophers constantly see the method of science before their eyes and are irresistibly tempted to ask and answer questions in the way science does. This tendency is the real source of metaphysics and leads the philosopher into complete darkness.” (BBB p18) The key to everything about us is biology, and it is obliviousness to it that leads millions of smart educated people like Obama, Chomsky, Clinton and the Pope to espouse suicidal utopian ideals that inexorably lead straight to Hell On Earth. As W noted, it is what is always before our eyes that is the hardest to see. We live in the world of conscious deliberative linguistic System 2, but it is unconscious, automatic reflexive System 1 that rules. This is the source of the universal blindness described by Searle’s The Phenomenological Illusion (TPI), Pinker’s Blank Slate and Tooby and Cosmides’ Standard Social Science Model. The astute may wonder why we cannot see System 1 at work, but it is clearly counterproductive for an animal to be thinking about or second guessing every action, and in any case there is no time for the slow, massively integrated System 2 to be involved in the constant stream of split second ‘decisions’ we must make. As W noted, our ‘thoughts’ (T1 or the ‘thoughts’ of System 1) must lead directly to actions. It is my contention that the table of intentionality (rationality, mind, thought, language, personality etc.) that features prominently here describes more or less accurately, or at least serves as an heuristic for, how we think and behave, and so it encompasses not merely philosophy and psychology, but everything else (history, literature, mathematics, politics etc.). Note especially that intentionality and rationality as I (along with Searle, Wittgenstein and others) view it, includes both conscious deliberative System 2 and unconscious automated System 1 actions or reflexes. Thus all the articles, like all behavior, are intimately connected if one knows how to look at them. As I note, The Phenomenological Illusion (oblivion to our automated System 1) is universal and extends not merely throughout philosophy but throughout life. I am sure that Chomsky, Obama, Zuckerberg and the Pope would be incredulous if told that they suffer from the same problem as Hegel, Husserl and Heidegger, (or that that they differ only in degree from drug and sex addicts in being motivated by stimulation of their frontal cortices by the delivery of dopamine (and over 100 other chemicals) via the ventral tegmentum and the nucleus accumbens), but it’s clearly true. While the phenomenologists only wasted a lot of people’s time, they are wasting the earth and their descendant’s future. The next section describes the digital delusions, which confuse the language games of System 2 with the automatisms of System one, and so cannot distinguish biological machines (i.e., people) from other kinds of machines (i.e., computers). The ‘reductionist’ claim is that one can ‘explain’ behavior at a ‘lower’ level, but what actually happens is that one does not explain human behavior but a ‘stand in’ for it. Hence the title of Searle’s classic review of Dennett’s book (“Consciousness Explained”)— “Consciousness Explained Away”. In most contexts ‘reduction’ of higher level emergent behavior to brain functions, biochemistry, or physics is incoherent. Even for ‘reduction’ of chemistry or physics, the path is blocked by chaos and uncertainty. Anything can be ‘represented’ by equations, but when they ‘represent’ higher order behavior, it is not clear (and cannot be made clear) what the ‘results’ mean. Reductionist metaphysics is a joke, but most scientists and philosophers lack the appropriate sense of humor. Other digital delusions are that we will be saved from the pure evil (selfishness) of System 1 by computers/AI/robotics/ nanotech/genetic engineering created by System 2. The No Free Lunch principal tells us there will be serious and possibly fatal consequences. The adventurous may regard this principle as a higher order emergent expression of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Hi-tech enthusiasts hugely underestimate the problems resulting from unrestrained motherhood, and of course it is neither profitable nor politically correct (and now with third world supremacism dominant, not even possible) to be honest about it. The last section describes The One Big Happy Family Delusion , i.e., that we are selected for cooperation with everyone, and that the euphonious ideals of Democracy, Diversity and Equality will lead us into utopia, if we just manage things correctly (the possibility of politics). Again, the No Free Lunch Principle ought to warn us it cannot be true, and we see throughout history and all over the contemporary world, that without strict controls, selfishness and stupidity gain the upper hand and soon destroy any nation that embraces it. In addition, the monkey mind steeply discounts the future, and so we cooperate in selling our descendant’s heritage for temporary comforts, greatly exacerbating the problems. I describe versions of this delusion (i.e., that we are basically ‘friendly’ if just given a chance) as it appears in some recent books on sociology/biology/economics. I end with an essay on the great tragedy playing out in America and the world, which can be seen as a direct result of our evolved psychology manifested as the inexorable machinations of System 1. Our psychology, eminently adaptive and eugenic on the plains of Africa from ca. 6 million years ago, when we split from chimpanzees, to ca. 50,000 years ago, when many of our ancestors left Africa (i.e., in the EEA or Environment of Evolutionary Adaptation), is now maladaptive and dysgenic and the source of our Suicidal Utopian Delusions. So, like all discussions of behavior (philosophy, psychology, sociology, biology, anthropology, politics, law, literature, history, economics, soccer strategies, business meetings, etc.), this book is about evolutionary strategies, selfish genes and inclusive fitness (kin selection). The great mystic Osho said that the separation of God and Heaven from Earth and Humankind was the most evil idea that ever entered the Human mind. In the 20th century an even more evil notion arose—that humans are born with rights, rather than having to earn privileges. Thus every day the population increases by 200,000, who must be provided with resources to grow and space to live, and who soon produce another 200,000 etc. And one almost never hears it noted that what they receive must be taken from those already alive. Their lives diminish those already here in both major obvious and countless subtle ways. Every new baby destroys the earth from the moment of conception. There cannot be human rights without human wrongs. It cannot be more obvious, but one will never see the streets full of protesters with banners protesting motherhood. America and the world are in the process of collapse from excessive population growth, most of it for the last century and now all of it due to 3rd world people. Consumption of resources and the addition of 4 billion more ca. 2100 will collapse industrial civilization and bring about starvation, disease, violence and war on a staggering scale. Billions will die and nuclear war is all but certain. In America this is being hugely accelerated by massive immigration and immigrant reproduction, combined with abuses made possible by democracy. Depraved human nature inexorably turns the dream of democracy and diversity into a nightmare of crime and poverty. China will continue to overwhelm America and the world, as long as it maintains the dictatorship which limits selfishness. The root cause of collapse is the inability of our innate psychology to adapt to the modern world, which leads people to treat unrelated persons as though they had common interests. This, plus ignorance of basic biology and psychology, leads to the social engineering delusions of the partially educated who control democratic societies. Few understand that if you help one person you harm someone else—there is no free lunch and every single item anyone consumes destroys the earth beyond repair. Consequently social policies everywhere are unsustainable and one by one all societies without stringent controls on selfishness will collapse into anarchy or dictatorship. Without dramatic and immediate changes, there is no hope for preventing the collapse of America, or any country that follows a democratic system. Hence my concluding essay “Suicide by Democracy”. I had hoped to weld my comments into a unified whole, but I came to realize, as W and AI researchers did, that the mind (roughly the same as language as W showed us) is a motley of disparate pieces evolved for many contexts, and there is no such whole or theory except inclusive fitness, i.e., evolution by natural selection. Finally, as with my previous ebooks 3DTV and 3D Movie Technology Selected Articles 1996-2016 2nd Ed 599p (2017), and Psychoactive Drugs— Four Classic Texts (1976-1982) 878p (2016), and in all my letters and email and conversations for over 50 years, I have always used ‘they’ or ‘them’ instead of ‘his/her’, ‘she/he’, or the idiotic reverse sexism of ‘she’ or ‘her’, being perhaps the only one in this part of the galaxy to do so. The slavish use of these universally applied egregious vocables is of course intimately connected with the defects in our psychology which generate academic philosophy, democracy and the collapse of industrial civilization, and I leave the further description of these connections as an exercise for the reader. This book has now been published in a slightly revised printed version amazon.com. Those interested in all my writings in their most recent versions may consult my e-books Talking Monkeys: Philosophy, Psychology, Science, Religion and Politics on a Doomed Planet - Articles and Reviews 2006-2017 (2017) and The Logical Structure of Philosophy, Psychology, Mind and Language in Ludwig Wittgenstein and John Searle—Articles and Reviews 2006-2016 (2017 and their printed versions amazon.com and amazon.com

So there.

And you probably thought I was the pessimist.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:49:15am

Not sure that an “abstract” really is one when it’s the length of an essay.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:58:28am

This is why Trump won’t be impeached: The Democrats are projected to win 54% of the vote in the 2018 midterms, which will still leave them as the minority party in the House thanks to gerrymandering. The only thing that could lose the GOP the House would be the party being torn apart by impeachment proceedings.

vox.com

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:08:02am

And now, for some Ukrainian creationism. Put up a few days ago, on an official Ukrainian website:

Ideas of creationism in modern education

The article examines some aspects of the introduction of the ideas of creationism in the educational process of higher education- al institutions. Intelligent design is a creationist religious argument for the existence of God, for creating animate and inanimate nature. According to creationism, the emergence of life and consciousness requires the intellect, which knows and realizes these forms. It is argued that objectively idealistic thinking should be recognized by thinking consistently scientific. The confession of the existence of the Creator of the Universe is both a fundamental principle for all world religions and a consistently grounded scientific fact. It is pointed to the scientific, historical, moral and anthropological arguments of the existence of the Creator. The man himself is the best argument for the existence of God. He is the most expressive document of God’s reality and Its presence in the world. The modern scientific picture of the emergence of the world is based on the theory of collapse, a super-powerful explosion of hollow matter, the theory of the expanding universe, the theory of relic radiation. Fixed in the Bible sequence of events has a profound meaning. World-famous scientists believed in God and showed deep spirituality, talent and responsibility.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:08:13am

re: #6 William Lewis

Hey Anymouse, just so you see it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:11:11am

re: #89 freetoken

Because it’s always hoot to see what shows up on PhilPapers:

Suicidal Utopian Delusions in the 21st Century-Philosophy, Human Nature and the Collapse of Civilization 2nd Ed 401p (2017)

So there.

And you probably thought I was the pessimist.

One of my wife’s favourite pessimist blogs:

collapseofindustrialcivilization.com

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:11:39am

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

No, Congressional Republicans will fuck it up themselves. Trump doesn’t get impeached unless incontrovertible evidence of him personally committing major crimes is produced.

There is no such thing as evidence of crimes that could convince Congressional Republicans to act vs. tr*mp. tr*mp could confess on live TV to all aspects of Russiagate, including showing the pee tapes, and this would make no difference at all for Republicans.

But if tr*mp is seen as screwing up the GOP’s tax cuts, he will pay.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:15:41am

re: #95 EPR-radar

There is no such thing as evidence of crimes that could convince Congressional Republicans to act vs. tr*mp. tr*mp could confess on live TV to all aspects of Russiagate, including showing the pee tapes, and this would make no difference at all for Republicans.

But if tr*mp is seen as screwing up the GOP’s tax cuts, he will pay.

Well that’s the thing. Trump has zero votes in Congress, only Congressional Republicans can fuck it up, and it looks like they will. Never thought I would see Republicans so incompetent that they can’t even pass massive tax cuts for billionaires.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:22:05am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:29:28am

Well, I finally got Nukemap to work on my computer, so I destroyed my village with a 150 kt airburst. (In reality, if someone were to attack this area they would go after all the missile silos around here and the Nebraska Sandhills would be a four hundred mile piece of trinitite.)

The destructive circle would be about sixteen miles wide. Estimated casualties would be ninety dead and forty wounded. (No word on how many hundreds of thousands of cattle in that circle though.)

The site notes in any given 24 hour period, there are 180 people in this area.

nuclearsecrecy.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:34:52am

Link to the map of nuking my town:

nuclearsecrecy.com

A 500m fireball (the prediction) would pretty much incinerate the whole town.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:38:44am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:44:04am

Our temp has dropped to 51 here in Brookings and I’m rooting for the 40’s. I doubt we will hit them but what the hey. Winds are calm here at home and N/NE at 1 MPH w/ gusts to 3 MPH at the airport. No marine layer as of yet so it’s a clear, starry night. I can smell the fire randomly wafting on the breeze but nothing persistent for now. Our local paper has a slideshow online with some pictures of what is going on here.

My wife just got home from her job at the local Big Box store and told me that one of the firefighters decided to be a bonehead and take his shopping cart up the escalator rather than using the elevator. When she told him to take the cart down in the elevator when he went downstairs he told her that he would because he noticed that the down escalator was broken.

We’re doomed. ;)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:52:29am

re: #100 William Lewis

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:54:43am

Harvey looking symmetrical now, presenting the ideal hurricane shape.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 2:58:51am

re: #103 freetoken

Harvey looking symmetrical now, presenting the ideal hurricane shape.

I’ll be calling my brother-in-law in a couple hours to find out what he’s going to do. The last couple of radar pictures seem to indicate the hurricane is moving more northward (toward Houston), but that could simply be a wobble in the track.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:01:12am

re: #63 EPR-radar

tr*mp will be impeached and removed from office by Congressional Republicans if he fucks up the upcoming GOP effort to reduce taxes on the rich.

Trump’s not even bothering to trot out a tax cut bill. The only thing he’s done thus far is threaten to shut the entire federal government down if money isn’t allocated for his wall vanity nameplate vaporware.

Ryan and McConnell are trotting out their bullshit plans that both have easy chance of collapsing because what they want to cut won’t go far enough from what the FreeDumb Carcass wants. Trump doesn’t want to negotiate to see a deal or compromise emerge.

In short, a lot of time will be wasted on ultimately nothing, Trump’s approval ratings will crater even further, and the Republican Party and their voters will still not care.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:02:47am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Latest forecast is for Harvey to keep wobbling along. Landfall near Houston is as good a guess as any. Regardless, a tremendous amount of rain is going to come down over several days, for anyone in coast/eastern TX and LA.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:06:51am

re: #106 freetoken

Latest forecast is for Harvey to keep wobbling along. Landfall near Houston is as good a guess as any. Regardless, a tremendous amount of rain is going to come down over several days, for anyone in coast/eastern TX and LA.

My brother-in-law lives near Chocolate Bayou south of Houston. He’s expecting a lot of flooding. He says he has his car up on blocks three feet high, but can leave in a moment’s notice. Right now he is securing his property against damage.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:08:40am

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

No, Congressional Republicans will fuck it up themselves. Trump doesn’t get impeached unless incontrovertible evidence of him personally committing major crimes is produced.

Trump’s behavior right now — outside of calling for an obvious mental health examination (that IIRC, he’d flunk spectacularly) — is simply taunting and teasing Ryan and McConnell and doing as much as possible to humiliate them.

He’s acting like a generic textbook bully, convinced that virtually no one will respond in kind.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:08:45am

On Sam Clovis as a pick for Chief Scientist of the USDA, a commentator over at Wonkette had this to say:

Along with his charming racial and scientific views, Clovis said last year that arts and humanities majors have no place in higher education.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:16:04am

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:18:09am

Humour to shut down a jerk:

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:19:35am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

On Sam Clovis as a pick for Chief Scientist of the USDA, a commentator over at Wonkette had this to say:

Since he is totally unqualified, some GOP Senators will knit their brows and express their concern before voting to confirm him.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:24:10am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:28:11am

Bro-in-law just E-mailed, saying for now Nebr. is too far to evacuate to, but he’s keeping us in mind.

The first feeder bands of the storm have just rolled thru. Got the first inch of rain. The predicted rainfall totals with this storm are going to be amazing. They figure this damn storm is going to be parked on top of us for the next 7 days.. rain stops next Thursday….best storm tracks takes the eye (weakened to a tropical storm by then) right over the top of my house…

So you got to see a ring from your porch this week [referring to the eclipse], and I will get to see one from mine next week…too bad that the two were not at the same time…I an only imagine how fucking cool it would be to see a total solar eclipse from the eye of a hurricane… The Houston news stations have decided that this is the end of the world coming… kind of too much hype I think… we will see. I will keep updating you from time to time until this is over.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:34:05am

re: #91 Big Beautiful Door

This is why Trump won’t be impeached: The Democrats are projected to win 54% of the vote in the 2018 midterms, which will still leave them as the minority party in the House thanks to gerrymandering. The only thing that could lose the GOP the House would be the party being torn apart by impeachment proceedings.

vox.com

Projected returns, with only about 14 months to go and zero idea of just how much the GOP will continue to shoot themselves in the foot with the existing level of dysfunction between the professional crazy and the Steve King/GOHMERT!/Rorschacher crazy.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:34:58am

My wife informed me that the guy in the third pic (clearing downed tree from North Bank Chetco River Road) that I linked in my last post is the genius who took the shopping cart up the escalator.

It’s even more disappointing that he’s an older man and should know better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:49:12am

The Obamas are living rent-free in their heads.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:52:01am

Stay safe down there in Texas (omg this must be my first post about Texas without snark).

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 3:54:33am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Stay safe down there in Texas (omg this must be my first post about Texas without snark).

FEMA still hasn’t gotten their act together here after our county was declared a disaster area from our June tornadoes.

This may make Katrina look professional.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:01:49am

re: #75 Amory Blaine

Trump is going nowhere even if tax cuts don’t get passed (haha). The owner class will just find another way to weasel out of their responsibilities. Criminal courts and resigning, that’s it.

Not that I’d expect the GOP rank-and-file to realize that their agenda stands a far, far better chance of passing with Pence in place of Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:02:33am

Sam Clovis is apparently a pet project of Mike Pence to be chief scientist of the USDA (it seems unlikely Donald Trump never heard of him as he watches FOX, not listens to wingnut radio like Pence).

Just the sort of thing we need in the Ag Department:

If we protect LGBT behavior, what other behaviors are we going to protect? Are we going to protect pedophilia? Are we going to protect polyamorous marriage relationships? Are we going to protect people who have fetishes? What’s the logical extension of this?—Sam Clovis

And what the deuce does any of that have to do with Agricultural Science? Oh I know, religion. That’s what’s important, regardless of the purpose of a government agency.

I’m surprised Trump didn’t put Pat Robertson up for FEMA. After all, when I was in Virginia Beach (living as far away from Robertson as I could in the city), he prayed away Hurricane Hugo and gave it as a present to South Carolina. Surely he could pray away Hurricane Harvey.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:10:13am

whre: #6 Barefoot Grin

The first time I went to a “country” bar was a place called the Neon Cactus in West Lafayette, IN. It was in a former Sears or Kmart building, so it had a dance floor in the middle and little mini bars around the perimeter. The waitresses all wore short pants under ass-revealing chaps. And there was this constant Nazi-like line dancing going on in the middle on the dance floor. I was young and impressed with the waitress get up, but was repelled by both the cowboys and their gals stomping out unsyncopated beats to songs about a simpler life.

Who knew Borat was a documentary?

Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!!

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:10:23am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Bush wasn’t impeached over Katrina. I wouldn’t expect it for Trump and Harvey.

As far as I can tell, the Feds have done nothing to prepare for this storm, despite days of warning.

Katrina was such a goddam disaster and was one of the reasons why there was a wave midterm election for the Democrats in 2006.

I’d be more concerned about the inevitable viral pandemic.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:12:06am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

The Obamas are living rent-free in their heads.

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Jones and his friends really are creepy bastards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:15:21am

Letter to the editor of my regional paper submitted. (I’ve gotten good at getting all my points in under four hundred words in letters.) It is too late for today’s paper, and it’s been a while since they printed their mandatory one-liberal-letter-a-month-whether-we-need-it-or-not, so let’s see if they print it tomorrow.

President Trump has nominated right-wing radio host Sam Clovis to be chief scientist at the USDA. Mr. Clovis has no education in either agriculture or science.

The Democratic Party has called on Mr. Trump to withdraw Mr. Clovis’s nomination, because he is wildly unqualified for the position.

Anyone who works in agriculture should be concerned about such a person in that position, regardless of political leanings. Our senators should come out against Mr. Clovis, as Nebraska needs qualified people to support and oversee our state’s most important industry, not a radio conspiracy theorist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:28:45am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

Sam Clovis is apparently a pet project of Mike Pence to be chief scientist of the USDA (it seems unlikely Donald Trump never heard of him as he watches FOX, not listens to wingnut radio like Pence).

Just the sort of thing we need in the Ag Department:

And what the deuce does any of that have to do with Agricultural Science? Oh I know, religion. That’s what’s important, regardless of the purpose of a government agency.

I’m surprised Trump didn’t put Pat Robertson up for FEMA. After all, when I was in Virginia Beach (living as far away from Robertson as I could in the city), he prayed away Hurricane Hugo and gave it as a present to South Carolina. Surely he could pray away Hurricane Harvey.

Yeah that does seems like Pence. WTF is wrong with him. And honestly I’m fine with polyamory and fetishes as long as they don’t involve children are fine. I bet Sam Clovis fancies himself a believer in “individual rights” and “limited government” but doesn’t see the contradiction at all about this.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:30:07am

re: #115 Myron Falwell

Projected returns, with only about 14 months to go and zero idea of just how much the GOP will continue to shoot themselves in the foot with the existing level of dysfunction between the professional crazy and the Steve King/GOHMERT!/Rorschacher crazy.

The way the districts are gerrymandered, the Democrats will have to win nationally by a 10 point margin to have a decent shot at winning a majority in the House.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:33:12am

re: #127 Big Beautiful Door

The way the districts are gerrymandered, the Democrats will have to win nationally by a 10 point margin to have a decent shot at winning a majority in the House.

Yeah gonna need a wave.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:39:14am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah that does seems like Pence. WTF is wrong with him. And honestly I’m fine with polyamory and fetishes as long as they don’t involve children are fine. I bet Sam Clovis fancies himself a believer in “individual rights” and “limited government” but doesn’t see the contradiction at all about this.

All my life, when conservatives used “limited government,” they either meant “limited from those ni=CLANG,” or limited to themselves.

Conservatives have never believed in limited government. (The largest expansion of government in modern times was DHS under GW Bush.)

Sam Clovis also holds the Klan/Nazi apologist position vis-a-vis liberals, which means Trump should like him:

Clovis was critical of President Barack Obama and the progressive movement, accusing Obama of being a socialist and writing that progressives were “liars, race traders and race ‘traitors.’

(via Wikipedia)

Race traitor, but I’ll bet Mr. Clovis would insist he is not a bigot.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:43:17am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

All my life, when conservatives used “limited government,” they either meant “limited from those ni=CLANG,” or limited to themselves.

Conservatives have never believed in limited government. (The largest expansion of government in modern times was DHS under GW Bush.)

Sam Clovis also holds the Klan/Nazi apologist position vis-a-vis liberals, which means Trump should like him:

(via Wikipedia)

Race traitor, but I’ll bet Mr. Clovis would insist he is not a bigot.

Clovis would say his detractors like us are the real bigots. It really sickens me that these people are being mainstreamed.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:49:09am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

If Clovis used the term “race traitors” or anything with that connotation, there is no way he should be confirmed for any government position. Trump needs to be called out for nominating straight up racists.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:51:07am

I just noticed that after 11 PM InciWeb updated the firefighter count for the Chetco Bar Fire from 1,174 to 1,398, so we gained another 224 firefighters late in the evening, making it 328 more firefighters that arrived yesterday. So far the wind is still calm here in town and N/NE @ 1-2 MPH at the airport, humidity is at 100% but no thick marine layer/fog. Everything is still covered in condensation, as usual at night here, and while the stars can still be seen there is a thin marine layer over the ocean and immediate coastline. Temp is holding at 51 so that’s as low as we go, which was 4 degrees lower than forecast.

Every little bit helps as the next 24 hours are going to be critical for our area. As far as the law telling morons to slow down on our back roads it turns out that a Cat was forced off the road yesterday. The cab was crushed and word is that it’s out of commission.

Freaking local idiots.

Edit: The temp hit 50! C’mon 49! :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:51:57am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Clovis would say his detractors like us are the real bigots. It really sickens me that these people are being mainstreamed.

It wasn’t too long ago said bigots were in the mainstream (as I point out occasionally, I went to a segregated elementary school until my mother got me the hell out of the South, and Norfolk VA was still fighting school integration well into the Eighties).

Liberals have been demonised as anti-American all my life by the right, and I never saw that drop from mainstream conservative thought. When we are not demonised so, such as me in my village, it is rationalised as “you’re one of the good ones, but those other liberals… .” (There are enough “good liberals” here we control my city council since the last election.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:55:25am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

It wasn’t too long ago said bigots were in the mainstream (as I point out occasionally, I went to a segregated elementary school until my mother got me the hell out of the South, and Norfolk VA was still fighting school integration well into the Eighties).

Liberals have been demonised as anti-American all my life by the right, and I never saw that drop from mainstream conservative thought. When we are not demonised so, such as me in my village, it is rationalised as “you’re one of the good ones, but those other liberals… .” (There are enough “good liberals” here we control my city council since the last election.)

Oh certainly, my parents’ childhood Congressman signed the Southern Manifesto. It’s just so frustrating because we’ve fought so hard to change this.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:55:40am

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

If Clovis used the term “race traitors” or anything with that connotation, there is no way he should be confirmed for any government position. Trump needs to be called out for nominating straight up racists.

Absolutely.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 4:57:14am

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

If Clovis used the term “race traitors” or anything with that connotation, there is no way he should be confirmed for any government position. Trump needs to be called out for nominating straight up racists.

That makes him a proud conservative (as he describes himself).

A USDA spokesperson responded that Clovis “is a proud conservative and a proud American. All of his reporting either on the air or in writing over the course of his career has been based on solid research and data. He is after all an academic.”

(He studied economics in college after his tour in the Air Force - he reached the rank of colonel.)

Race-baiting by conservatives has gone on my whole life. I would imagine to a large portion of GOP politicians and voters, nominating racists is a plus.

cnn.com

Sam Clovis, President Donald Trump’s nominee to be the Department of Agriculture’s chief scientist, maintained a now-defunct blog for years in which he accused progressives of “enslaving” minorities, called black leaders “race traders,” and labeled former President Barack Obama a “Maoist” with “communist” roots.

Clovis, a long-time Iowa political activist and former economics professor, wrote the blog posts on the now-deleted website for his radio show “Impact with Clovis,” which aired for several years on Sioux City KSCJ. Copies of the show are not available online, but the blog is archived on The Internet Archive Wayback Machine. Most of the available blog posts are from 2011 and 2012.

Trump’s nomination of Clovis, a fervent supporter of Trump during the presidential campaign, has drawn criticism from Senate Democrats and climate activists, who have attacked his lack of scientific credentials and skepticism of climate science.

(more at CNN)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:00:45am

I can’t say that every conservative I’ve ever met has been racist but most of the really racist people I’ve known have been right wing and have hated liberals.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:07:24am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I can’t say that every conservative I’ve ever met has been racist but most of the really racist people I’ve known have been right wing and have hated liberals.

I can’t say that they are overt racists (in the sense of using racist language, joining the Klan, &c), but nearly every conservative I have met has no trouble pulling the lever for (R-Overt Racist).

In my mind, such an action (voting for a known racist who would make policy based on racism) makes you a racist. Not in the sense you’d ban someone from your business over race, but you are fine with allowing people to write laws that would permit that.

In a similar vein, while a person might not be interested in restricting women’s rights, if they are fine voting for a person who would, in my mind that person is still a misogynist.

Both would only care if those positions affected them personally (for example, “The only moral abortion is my abortion.”)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:09:57am

Burning question of the day in my regional paper for a poll: “Did you enjoy watching the eclipse?” I’m glad they are asking hard-hitting questions of the readership. (Currently the poll is running 100% “yes.”)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:11:25am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t say that they are overt racists (in the sense of using racist language, joining the Klan, &c), but nearly every conservative I have met has no trouble pulling the lever for (R-Overt Racist).

In my mind, such an action (voting for a known racist who would make policy based on racism) makes you a racist. Not in the sense you’d ban someone from your business over race, but you are fine with allowing people to write laws that would permit that.

In a similar vein, while a person might not be interested in restricting women’s rights, if they are fine voting for a person who would, in my mind that person is still a misogynist.

Both would only care if those positions affected them personally (for example, “The only moral abortion is my abortion.”)

Agreed, indifference to racism and sexism may as well be racism and sexism itself.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:15:58am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Agreed, indifference to racism and sexism may as well be racism and sexism itself.

Absolutely no doubt about that.

BTW, looks like you had a good trip.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:20:18am

starherald.com (Goes to the Gering Courier, printed by the Scottsbluff Star-Herald)

The Courier interviewed a family from Missouri who came to Gering to watch the eclipse. It reminded them of “God and creation” (it reminded me of orbital mechanics and astrophysics, but your mileage may vary).

The Courier got a really good photo of the total eclipse as seen at the Legacy of the Plains museum in Gering, which is at the top of the article. (I already hid my photos after seeing Wheat-Dogg’s here, from embarrassment.) The Courier did as good a job as WD.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:23:33am

re: #17 William Lewis

I’m someone who eats meat. I grew up on a farm raising beef and poultry for eggs and eating. So I know where my food comes from.

These pigs were always going to be food for humans and , presumably, went to a less terrifying and painful death than being burned alive. So, I’m sorry, but as an omnivore, I see no problem with this story.

They should all have been given names and a Saturday morning kiddie show.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:28:28am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

They should all have been given names and a Saturday morning kiddie show.

The firefighters or the pigs?

While the pigs were likely destined for someone’s plate sooner or later, there is the optics of firefighters going into a burning barn to save their lunch.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:28:51am

re: #141 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Absolutely no doubt about that.

BTW, looks like you had a good trip.

Thanks I did. Wish I had bought more Belgian chocolate heh. But yeah indifference is as bad as the behavior itself because it allows things to fester and grow worse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:30:18am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Thanks I did. Wish I had bought more Belgian chocolate heh. But yeah indifference is as bad as the behavior itself because it allows things to fester and grow worse.

I read “things” as “thighs” (probably due to the Belgian chocolate in the sentence - enough chocolate might do that to thighs).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:33:34am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹

I read “things” as “thighs” (probably due to the Belgian chocolate in the sentence - enough chocolate might do that to thighs).

Haha yeah. I’m on a diet now. Plus leaving Belgium and the Netherlands means no mayo on my fries for a while. Nice people the Dutch and Belgians. The Germans are good people but nice? Still had a great time though. Glad I was able to see all I did.

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steve_davis  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:33:39am

re: #17 William Lewis

I’m someone who eats meat. I grew up on a farm raising beef and poultry for eggs and eating. So I know where my food comes from.

These pigs were always going to be food for humans and , presumably, went to a less terrifying and painful death than being burned alive. So, I’m sorry, but as an omnivore, I see no problem with this story.

My only issue with it is that after the fire, the pigs had really turned their lives around. The one had gone to Oxford to study Francis Bacon. His tutors had taken a real pygmalion and turned him into a silk purse. It’s now on sale at Jesus College.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:36:55am

Hurricane Harvey is becoming better organised and is up to 110 mph
nhc.noaa.gov

NHC audio brief (2:49)

MP3 Audio

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:37:49am

re: #148 steve_davis

My only issue with it is that after the fire, the pigs had really turned their lives around. The one had gone to Oxford to study Francis Bacon. His tutors had taken a real pygmalion and turned him into a silk purse. It’s now on sale at Jesus College.

No one ever talks about the swine who became a murderous roadie for a rock group until arrested by Morse and Lewis.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:38:06am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Haha yeah. I’m on a diet now. Plus leaving Belgium and the Netherlands means no mayo on my fries for a while. Nice people the Dutch and Belgians. The Germans are good people but nice? Still had a great time though. Glad I was able to see all I did.

Mayo on fries? Forgive me for saying “bleah.” I’ll stick to poutine.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:38:37am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹

I read “things” as “thighs” (probably due to the Belgian chocolate in the sentence - enough chocolate might do that to thighs).

Might have been the presence of my screen name that fooled your eyes

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steve_davis  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:38:55am

re: #31 William Lewis

Actually we did name all the handful of cattle. I still remember most of the names and I dearly enjoyed the hamburger that came from Nutsy - that cow was insane by bovine standards and near killed me and Dad a couple of times.

But I’ll admit, it wasn’t typical. I also always gave a prayer for their lives much as for a deer when hunting later in life.

Was Nutsy insane, or was he just smarter than his pals?

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Weaselone  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:39:22am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

Hurricane Harvey is becoming better organised and is up to 110 mph
nhc.noaa.gov

NHC audio brief (2:49)

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That’s already almost a category 3.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:39:33am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

The firefighters or the pigs?

While the pigs were likely destined for someone’s plate sooner or later, there is the optics of firefighters going into a burning barn to save their lunch.

Out of decency, I would have served them at a Kiwanis pancake breakfast.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:39:37am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

Mayo on fries? Forgive me for saying “bleah.” I’ll stick to poutine.

Give it a try. It sounded weird to my brother and I but it’s not bad. Poutine is awesome though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:42:47am

re: #154 Weaselone

That’s already almost a category 3.

Depending on how quickly the storm organises, it could be pushing Category IV by the time it reaches the coastline.

The National Weather Service is more concerned with the unbelievable amount of rain the storm will produce (due to stalling over the weekend into next week) - up to 35”, plus high storm surge (which if the storm strengthens they get higher).

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:43:34am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

The NWS Enhanced Radar for the South Plains shows a good image and loads fast. The loop is for the last hour and colors yellow on ‘up’ indicate rain.

Edit: Hooray! We hit 49 degrees!! C’mon snow…lol!

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:43:51am

re: #153 steve_davis

Was Nutsy insane, or was he just smarter than his pals?

She and we should be glad that she never met the Great Cow Guru of Cows With Guns…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:44:19am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

Mayo on fries? Forgive me for saying “bleah.” I’ll stick to poutine.

Naah. This is the stuff:

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:46:42am

Well, I was officially offered the job yesterday and accepted. I’ll probably fill out the paperwork on Tuesday after Labor Day & then go to training the next day.

I am looking forward to sleeping when it’s night again ;)

A minimum of $5 more an hour doesn’t hurt either :lol:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:47:16am

re: #161 William Lewis

Well, I was officially offered the job yesterday and accepted. I’ll probably fill out the paperwork on Tuesday after Labor Day & then go to training the next day.

I am looking forward to sleeping when it’s night again ;)

A minimum of $5 more an hour doesn’t hurt either :lol:

Congrats!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:47:22am

The sun is up, so I am going to head off to bed.

I missed the meeting with the state water office yesterday, because my wife is very sick (throwing up) and the fellow and our village board chairwoman didn’t want to catch whatever is running around my house.

Today I have the same problem (sick, throwing up). The chairwoman says she’ll get with me later about the action plan for the village water system, but for now wants me to stay away from the wells and other access points to the system. (I don’t suppose infecting the water supply with bug would make friends and influence people here.)

I paid the fellow who delivers my morning newspaper who mowed my lawn the other day by leaving an envelope in the door for him (he got it), as I don’t want to make him sick either,

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:48:00am

re: #159 William Lewis

She and we should be glad that she never met the Great Cow Guru of Cows With Guns…

Cows With Guns - The Original Animation

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:49:26am

re: #161 William Lewis

Well, I was officially offered the job yesterday and accepted. I’ll probably fill out the paperwork on Tuesday after Labor Day & then go to training the next day.

I am looking forward to sleeping when it’s night again ;)

A minimum of $5 more an hour doesn’t hurt either :lol:

Trump economy just keeps trickling down.

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jeffreyw  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:54:04am

Imgur


Good morning!

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 5:56:03am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Trump economy just keeps trickling down.

Walker already did us in long before Pumpkin Pinochet could try.

Time to get some rest. L8r ;)

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:05:44am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

No one ever talks about the swine who became a murderous roadie for a rock group until arrested by Morse and Lewis.

If there’s one thing PBS has taught me, it’s to stay clear of no-go zones like Oxbridge.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:18:17am

The Bernie Bros just can’t shut the fuck up.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:21:48am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The Bernie Bros just can’t shut the fuck up.

What “tough questions”? I can’t see the picture.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:21:50am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The Bernie Bros just can’t shut the fuck up.

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Closed primaries. Yeah how dare a party think only people in their party determine that party’s nominee. BTW Bernie did lose plenty of open primaries as well but he immediately dismissed them because of where they were. Never saw that from the Clinton campaign after they lost some states.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:22:25am

re: #170 Belafon

What “tough questions”? I can’t see the picture.

She’s bellyaching about closed primaries and how the Dems can’t call the GOP while they have that going on. Also saying we can’t complain about Gerrymandering because we “barely” invested in states. I don’t know what she’s talking about there. On Election Eve, Clinton was in Arizona. They did underestimate Trump’s appeal in the Rust Belt, I agree.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:30:27am

Cool visualization of wind patterns:

earth.nullschool.net

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:31:25am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

She’s bellyaching about closed primaries and how the Dems can’t call the GOP while they have that going on. Also saying we can’t complain about Gerrymandering because we “barely” invested in states. I don’t know what she’s talking about there. On Election Eve, Clinton was in Arizona. They did underestimate Trump’s appeal in the Rust Belt, I agree.

“So, what you’re telling me is that you want the white male candidate to have it easier because he lost to a woman, and to have it easier than the black man who won under the same rules 9 years ago. Got it.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:38:39am

re: #174 Belafon

“So, what you’re telling me is that you want the white male candidate to have it easier because he lost to a woman, and to have it easier than the black man who won under the same rules 9 years ago. Got it.”

Exactly. They claim it was rigged for Hillary. Well to me it’s obvious that the Dem establishment favored Clinton over Obama 9 years ago but Obama still beat her. Bernie couldn’t beat her because Bernie isn’t a coalition builder. She gasp got more votes than him and I’ll add Trump too. I’m a white progressive but too many of my fellow white progressives think they’re the only ones in the party/movement and totally dismiss the votes by racial minorities, more moderate people, etc.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 6:45:27am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

Take care of yourself and rest today.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:04:29am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The Bernie Bros just can’t shut the fuck up.

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You know, for supposedly being “progressive,” these spoiled children spend an awful lot of time whining about things in the past. The Sanders campaign agreed to the rules under which the primaries would be run over a year before they began, so they have only themselves to blame if they thought rallies and town halls would take the place of traditional phone pools and voter registration drives.

Perhaps Bernie should have spent a bit of time knocking it into the thick skulls of his supporters that if they wanted him to win, they needed to do more than sit at home and harass anybody who voiced doubts about him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:06:53am

re: #177 Targetpractice

You know, for supposedly being “progressive,” these spoiled children spend an awful lot of time whining about things in the past. The Sanders campaign agreed to the rules under which the primaries would be run over a year before they began, so they have only themselves to blame if they thought rallies and town halls would take the place of traditional phone pools and voter registration drives.

Perhaps Bernie should have spent a bit of time knocking it into the thick skulls of his supporters that if they wanted him to win, they needed to do more than sit at home and harass anybody who voiced doubts about him.

Exactly. And I’ll say it again but Sanders did terrible among key elements of the Dem base. I mean we’re talking nearly Republican numbers among African-American voters for one and it wasn’t much better with Hispanics. You don’t win a primary with white progressives alone. Sanders didn’t build a coalition. They want to rag on Clinton for her mistakes but they never ever want to consider Sanders made some mistakes as well.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:07:37am

Texas is about to wish they gave their 35 electoral votes to the lady.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:09:05am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And I’ll say it again but Sanders did terrible among key elements of the Dem base. I mean we’re talking nearly Republican numbers among African-American voters for one and it wasn’t much better with Hispanics. You don’t win a primary with white progressives alone. Sanders didn’t build a coalition. They want to rag on Clinton for her mistakes but they never ever want to consider Sanders made some mistakes as well.

I still consider one of the greatest “WTF!” moments for the Sanders campaign was when they put Jane Sanders in front of the cameras to declare that the era of the Obama Coalition had passed. Bernie’s downplaying and eventual dismissal of the South was bad enough, but the coalition that put a black man in the White House twice with huge margins being told they were no longer politically relevant was a major political blunder.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:10:30am

re: #179 darthstar

Texas is about to wish they gave their 35 electoral votes to the lady.

Not so much. Like all widespread disasters, it will fall most heavily on those who can’t afford it—the kind of Texans who voted for the lady.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:11:24am

re: #180 Targetpractice

I still consider one of the greatest “WTF!” moments for the Sanders campaign was when they put Jane Sanders in front of the cameras to declare that the era of the Obama Coalition had passed. Bernie’s downplaying and eventual dismissal of the South was bad enough, but the coalition that put a black man in the White House twice with huge margins being told they were no longer politically relevant was a major political blunder.

Very much so. Jane was a terrible surrogate for him and I felt that way without knowing about her troubles. They just totally dismissed what Obama built. I’m sorry but being the first Democrat since FDR to get over 50% of the election in two presidential elections is nothing to sneeze at especially if you’ve been running in a state that has less people in it than my birth county.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:20:09am

The reality is that Bernie never tried building a coalition, he was convinced it would either happen due to his “energy” or that he could put off winning over Hillary voters until after the convention. He picked some of the worst fucking surrogates I’d ever seen in politics, did absolutely nothing to control his campaign’s message, and allowed his supporters to do all the work to scare off people who might otherwise have been attracted to his base.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:20:17am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Hurricane Harvey is bearing down on the Gulf Coast and Texas is squarely in the path. Looks like it’s going to be a significant flooding event affecting millions of people and the storm strength has been upgraded so that there’s the likelihood of significant coastal flooding and damaging wind to go along with 2-3 feet of rain as the storm stalls out.

So, it’s awesome knowing that Trump is fixated like a laser beam on the important things - attacking Senator Corker (a GOPer from TN) and GOP leadership in Congress because they’re not changing the rules to satisfy Trump’s demands.

Priorities. Prep for a storm that has massive consequences (like significant loss of life and potentially shutting down oil production/refinery capacity for a period of time causing price spikes). Or petty political attacks.

Yeah, we know. It’s Trump. He’s got his priorities.

Meanwhile, Gov. Abbott of Texas is telling everyone that he’s working with the feds at FEMA, DHS, etc., to prep for the storm. Glad to know that he’s leaning on these agencies and departments in a crisis. Of course, these fuckers want to see FEMA gone because they’re GOPers and Trump has also called for significant cuts to the agency.

These hypocritical nuts have no problem when they need assistance, but how dare anyone else rely on these critical services.

We can only hope that Trump hasn’t completely fucked up FEMA and DHS ability to respond to a crisis, because there’s lives at stake.

A handful of GOPers understand the consequences:

But that’s the outlier.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:23:14am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:26:47am

re: #184 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

What were they expecting Trump to do once in office? He’s doing what he’s done his entire life. Awful character/judgment were always present

He’s even got a cute arachnid fable about it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:27:08am

re: #184 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Hurricane Harvey is bearing down on the Gulf Coast and Texas is squarely in the path. Looks like it’s going to be a significant flooding event affecting millions of people and the storm strength has been upgraded so that there’s the likelihood of significant coastal flooding and damaging wind to go along with 2-3 feet of rain as the storm stalls out.

So, it’s awesome knowing that Trump is fixated like a laser beam on the important things - attacking Senator Corker (a GOPer from TN) and GOP leadership in Congress because they’re not changing the rules to satisfy Trump’s demands.

Priorities. Prep for a storm that has massive consequences (like significant loss of life and potentially shutting down oil production/refinery capacity for a period of time causing price spikes). Or petty political attacks.

Yeah, we know. It’s Trump. He’s got his priorities.

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Clarke really forgets that he’s a public servant not a right wing mouth piece.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:28:12am

re: #185 lawhawk

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They’re realizing that Trump administration won’t look good on the old resume.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:30:59am

Trump’s demanding the Senate dismantle the filibuster entirely, meanwhile Trumpcare failed under reconciliation which set a bar of 50 votes with Pence as the tie-breaker. This is an absolute joke of an administration, attacking his own party for failing to do something that would have made no difference in the end.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:31:30am

re: #161 William Lewis

Well, I was officially offered the job yesterday and accepted. I’ll probably fill out the paperwork on Tuesday after Labor Day & then go to training the next day.

I am looking forward to sleeping when it’s night again ;)

A minimum of $5 more an hour doesn’t hurt either :lol:

Congrats. Can’t keep a good man down. :-)

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BlueGrl21  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:32:20am

Greetings and salutations from the southwest side of the Houston Metro area.

It’s raining.

Fellow coastal Lizardim, keep your powder dry and check in when you can. We’re going to have a rough few days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:36:26am

I won’t blame Trump for the Hurricane but I will blame him for the response.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:42:17am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Clarke really forgets that he’s a public servant not a right wing mouth piece.

I heard Charlie Sykes interviewed a couple of weeks ago on “On the Media” about Clarke. Sykes used to have him on his show. “Do you regret your part in making him a media character?” he was asked. Sykes sighed and then unequivocally said, “yes, yes I do.”

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:43:43am

re: #191 BlueGrl21

Greetings and salutations from the southwest side of the Houston Metro area.

It’s raining.

Fellow coastal Lizardim, keep your powder dry and check in when you can. We’re going to have a rough few days.

Hang in there! Fingers crossed for Texas.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:44:47am

Donald Trump: A mediocre white man who became president because of a rule protecting mediocre white men.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:45:02am

re: #193 Barefoot Grin

I heard Charlie Sykes interviewed a couple of weeks ago on “On the Media” about Clarke. Sykes used to have him on his show. “Do you regret your part in making him a media character?” he was asked. Sykes sighed and then unequivocally said, “yes, yes I do.”

As he should. Clarke’s entitled to his opinions but he spends all day on Twitter bitching about liberals and critics of Trump rather than doing his job as sheriff. It’s pathetic.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:45:56am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

There was an interesting mention, though, of a few not insignificant details at the very end of the article…First, the 10% of Bernie voters that went for Trump paled in comparison to the TWENTY FIVE percent of Hillary voters who went for McCain in 2008 (hypocrisy, anyone?).

How is that hypocrisy? I didn’t like McCain then, and like him much less now, but he’s no Donald Trump. And the Bernie-bros who voted for Trump are being called out because of their “both the same” arguments, not because of voting for Trump per se.

(Not to mention that there’s no evidence one way or another whether the same people who supported Hillary in ‘08 and then voted for McCain are the ones who are now calling out the Bernie-for-Trump voters.)

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:46:34am

Today’s forecast: Mostly cloudy

Actual weather: Rain shower

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:46:39am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

As he should. Clarke’s entitled to his opinions but he spends all day on Twitter bitching about liberals and critics of Trump rather than doing his job as sheriff. It’s pathetic.

Not sure which is worse, Clarke as public media figure or Clarke as Sheriff.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:47:21am

re: #199 Barefoot Grin

Not sure which is worse, Clarke as public media figure or Clarke as Sheriff.

You do make a good point. Maybe it’s best that he’s on Twitter considering the state of Milwaukee County jails.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:48:21am

Still though, as a public servant in what should be an apolitical job, Clarke always especially with his job ignores that he’s there to serve and protect and Dave that includes those liberals you so despise and wish to go all Gestapo on.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:51:09am

re: #197 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

How is that hypocrisy? I didn’t like McCain then, and like him much less now, but he’s no Donald Trump. And the Bernie-bros who voted for Trump are being called out because of their “both the same” arguments, not because of voting for Trump per se.

(Not to mention that there’s no evidence one way or another whether the same people who supported Hillary in ‘08 and then voted for McCain are the ones who are now calling out the Bernie-for-Trump voters.)

Indeed, I was an Obama supporter in 2008 and a Clinton one this year. And here’s another thing. What about those Sanders supporters that flat out did not vote in 2016. Honestly, there’s no way of knowing completely how many Clinton supporters went for McCain in 2008 and how many Sanders ones went for Trump in 2016 but here’s something we can measure, how much the individual candidate went out for their former rival. I was no fan of Hillary Clinton in 2008 but anyone can tell you that she went all out to get Obama elected. I don’t think you can say the same about Sanders in 2016. He didn’t completely sit on his hands I’ll grant him that but he didn’t do what Clinton did in 2008 and is another reason why I don’t see him as a leader. A true leader is willing to work with others to accomplish a greater goal.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:53:37am

re: #61 teleskiguy

I have no doubt that Bernie Sanders is going to ratfuck the 2018 midterm elections as much as he can because he’s a fuckin’ egomaniac a lot like Fuckface Von Clownstick. He’ll sow divisions among Democrats gleefully, implement purity tests, and denounce good and strong Democrats like Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, all the while getting fat and rich off his drooling sycophant followers. Bernie can die in a fire.

If my SF Bay Area experience is a gauge, it’s not going to do him much good. Almost all of the leftist groups around here kissed and made up after the election, and still recognize that we have to stand together. If we’re managing it here, then anyone can do it.

So I think that Bernie and his loud-but-few supporters aren’t going to have that much effect locally. (Now all we need to do is get the DNC to dissociate themselves from him.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:55:18am

re: #203 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If my SF Bay Area experience is a gauge, it’s not going to do him much good. Almost all of the leftist groups around here kissed and made up after the election, and still recognize that we have to stand together. If we’re managing it here, then anyone can do it.

So I think that Bernie and his loud-but-few supporters aren’t going to have that much effect locally. (Now all we need to do is get the DNC to dissociate themselves from him.)

He’s in for a rude awakening in 2020 if he runs for President. He’s not going to have the same magic. What infuriates me the most about Sanders is he wants to sell himself as a lone voice against the excesses of deregulation. We get stuff accomplished when we work together. Sanders has allowed himself to become a messiah figure.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:58:15am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

As he should. Clarke’s entitled to his opinions but he spends all day on Twitter bitching about liberals and critics of Trump rather than doing his job as sheriff. It’s pathetic.

Clarke has the same career as Dump: Bitch on Twitter about everyone who doesn’t like you.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:58:31am

re: #161 William Lewis

Well, I was officially offered the job yesterday and accepted. I’ll probably fill out the paperwork on Tuesday after Labor Day & then go to training the next day.

I am looking forward to sleeping when it’s night again ;)

A minimum of $5 more an hour doesn’t hurt either :lol:

Good to hear Lewis. I hope you like the job…that always helps.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:59:57am

re: #166 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Noooooooooo!

Sausage. The piglets!!!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 7:59:59am

re: #184 lawhawk

Democrats and lib media are no doubt hoping for Hurricane Harvey to make a direct hit on Texas so they can blame @realDonaldTrump.
— David A. Clarke, Jr.

When the only tool you have is a hammer….

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:04:22am

re: #177 Targetpractice

You know, for supposedly being “progressive,” these spoiled children spend an awful lot of time whining about things in the past. The Sanders campaign agreed to the rules under which the primaries would be run over a year before they began, so they have only themselves to blame if they thought rallies and town halls would take the place of traditional phone pools and voter registration drives.

Perhaps Bernie should have spent a bit of time knocking it into the thick skulls of his supporters that if they wanted him to win, they needed to do more than sit at home and harass anybody who voiced doubts about him.

I still think Bernie started out as a reasonable politician who wanted to make a statement and maybe influence the Democratic platform, etc.

And then the crowds came, and the bird landed and Bernie’s ego took over.

And it hasn’t stopped yet.

That’s my take, and it will be hard to change it.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:07:19am

re: #181 Decatur Deb

Not so much. Like all widespread disasters, it will fall most heavily on those who can’t afford it—the kind of Texans who voted for the lady.

In many states I would agree with you.

However. Texas.

Add in Florida, Arizona, maybe Arkansas, South Carolina and you can’t explain that. Those people are so wingnutty they many times screw themselves by buying conservative BS.

Example: Obamacare.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:10:35am

re: #210 ObserverArt

In many states I would agree with you.

However. Texas.

Add in Florida, Arizona, maybe Arkansas, South Carolina and you can’t explain that. Those people are so wingnutty they many times screw themselves by buying conservative BS.

Example: Obamacare.

Some parts of Texas that are about to be hit are areas minorities know not to stop in and to drive around if possible.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:10:45am

re: #209 ObserverArt

I still think Bernie started out as a reasonable politician who wanted to make a statement and maybe influence the Democratic platform, etc.

And then the crowds came, and the bird landed and Bernie’s ego took over.

And it hasn’t stopped yet.

That’s my take, and it will be hard to change it.

See, that’s where we might differ, because I’ve seen most of Bernie’s political career as a long ego trip. It’s what explains his hypocrisy, selling himself as a “dove” when he voted multiple times to send troops to fight and is a big defense spending booster. Or playing himself up as supporting civil rights when his only problem with the ‘96 Crime Bill was that sentences for cocaine possession were lighter than those for crack possession. He is a political opportunist of the first order and he jumped into the race last year for one reason only: There was no serious opposition to Hillary.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:10:56am

re: #184 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:11:11am

re: #209 ObserverArt

I still think Bernie started out as a reasonable politician who wanted to make a statement and maybe influence the Democratic platform, etc.

And then the crowds came, and the bird landed and Bernie’s ego took over.

And it hasn’t stopped yet.

That’s my take, and it will be hard to change it.

I agree.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:13:34am

re: #65 EPR-radar

Bernie Sanders needs to fuck off. He’s caused too much trouble to be forgiven at this point.

That said, the Democrats need to beef up their ideas on how to deal with economic issues. Economic populism is in the air, and it cannot be left only to demagogues like tr*mp to respond to this.

This article about how Portugal recovered from their financial crisis might serve as a starting point for a Democratic position. It seems austerity is not the best way after all (added to the collapsing economies of many red states and the flourishing of blue states, it could be built into a positive program, rather than a “Republican plan bad!” position.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:16:32am

re: #215 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

This article about how Portugal recovered from their financial crisis might serve as a starting point for a Democratic position. It seems austerity is not the best way after all (added to the collapsing economies of many red states and the flourishing of blue states, it could be built into a positive program, rather than a “Republican plan bad!” position.

That was part of what the Stimulus was supposed to be about. Agree that Austerity isn’t the answer. Too often the default position is spending cuts.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:17:14am

re: #189 Targetpractice

Trump’s demanding the Senate dismantle the filibuster entirely, meanwhile Trumpcare failed under reconciliation which set a bar of 50 votes with Pence as the tie-breaker. This is an absolute joke of an administration, attacking his own party for failing to do something that would have made no difference in the end.

What I don’t get is he has not listened to the people. He has his mind set on one damn thing “Repeal Obamacare” because it shows up Obama.

He doesn’t grasp the actual politics of the fact that many people that voted for him were hopeful they would get “something great…believe me…health insurance” and then when they saw that wasn’t going to be coming, they put up a fight to keep the ACA and fix it. And I am talking about voters that voted for him.

He completely ignores that and it will cost him if he is even thinking about running again, which I hope will never happen.

It just proves to me he has no understanding of real politics and all he wants is to make Obama look bad…which will never happen.

All he needs to do is say he supports keeping the ACA and he will work with both houses and parties of Congress to make it better fro everyone and he would be a hero to many people.

Completely fucking stupid and blind. An asshole. Our president is an asshole.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:18:03am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Stay safe down there in Texas (omg this must be my first post about Texas without snark).

I just posted a similar statement on Facebook.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:18:27am

People

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:18:54am

re: #127 Big Beautiful Door

The way the districts are gerrymandered, the Democrats will have to win nationally by a 10 point margin to have a decent shot at winning a majority in the House.

Fear is what drives people to vote, more often than not. Polls indicating tight congressional or senate races at least won’t breed complacency.

Honestly, all of those projections that showed Hillary had a 80%+ chance of winning last year (without giving much in the way of specifics) did not help.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:19:03am

re: #191 BlueGrl21

Greetings and salutations from the southwest side of the Houston Metro area.

It’s raining.

Fellow coastal Lizardim, keep your powder dry and check in when you can. We’re going to have a rough few days.

All you Texans are in my thoughts. Good luck and I hope the best for all of you. We get our storms in Ohio, tornados and such, but nothing like what you may be in for.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:20:34am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart

People

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That sure showed God.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:21:21am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

When the only tool you have is a hammer….

And in Sheriff Clarke’s case, the conclusion of that trope is usually

“…bash yourself in the head with it”

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I cannot.  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:22:12am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

When all you have is a hammer, its always this time…

MC Hammer - U Can’t Touch This

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:24:13am

re: #91 Big Beautiful Door

This is why Trump won’t be impeached: The Democrats are projected to win 54% of the vote in the 2018 midterms, which will still leave them as the minority party in the House thanks to gerrymandering. The only thing that could lose the GOP the House would be the party being torn apart by impeachment proceedings.

vox.com

Are you one of the people who told us that the ACA was doomed, too?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:25:49am

re: #191 BlueGrl21

Greetings and salutations from the southwest side of the Houston Metro area.

It’s raining.

Fellow coastal Lizardim, keep your powder dry and check in when you can. We’re going to have a rough few days.

Might be a good time to plan a pleasant end-of-Summer vacation.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:26:10am

re: #212 Targetpractice

See, that’s where we might differ, because I’ve seen most of Bernie’s political career as a long ego trip. It’s what explains his hypocrisy, selling himself as a “dove” when he voted multiple times to send troops to fight and is a big defense spending booster. Or playing himself up as supporting civil rights when his only problem with the ‘96 Crime Bill was that sentences for cocaine possession were lighter than those for crack possession. He is a political opportunist of the first order and he jumped into the race last year for one reason only: There was no serious opposition to Hillary.

I admit, I am only going on what I have seen of Bernie since he ran as a 2016 Democratic candidate. I didn’t know that much about him, and I bet not many Bernie supporters did either. All of you say is probably correct, but he got big coverage on a big stage this time. So maybe he has always had a need to feed his ego, but surely his 2016 run fed it like never before.

I think you too would admit he is a larger ego now than ever before. And that makes him dangerous. If some reality would hit him upside his head, maybe he will come down and be reasonable.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:26:17am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart

Wut?

O_o

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:26:27am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:27:33am

re: #225 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Are you one of the people who told us that the ACA was doomed, too?

I was, and it probably still is. We can’t rely on these people screwing up every attempt to kill it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:27:55am

re: #195 Belafon

Donald Trump: A mediocre white man who became president because of a rule protecting mediocre white men.

You are insulting mediocre white men. Bush 43 was a mediocre white man. Trump is in a class by himself — a deplorable classless class.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:28:17am

So you’ve got Texas about to get smacked hard by Harvey, which means the strong likelihood of major requests for relief money in the coming weeks and months. Just days prior to the Labor Day weekend and the start of the month when the GOP is going to be under the greatest pressure to pass a spending bill and debt ceiling to avoid the one-two punch of a gov’t shutdown and federal debt default. And Cheeto Benito is threatening to veto one or both bills unless the monument to his ego gets funded.

This is going to be a very painful September for the GOP.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:28:45am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

You are insulting mediocre white men. Bush 43 was a mediocre white man. Trump is in a class by himself — a deplorable classless class.

Trump is …exceptional.

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jeffreyw  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:29:01am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Noooooooooo!

Sausage. The piglets!!!

I can’t rule that out. I never watch it being made.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:29:08am

re: #217 ObserverArt

There is no way someone can exhibit that level of narcissistic/sociopathic behavior and not have a serious problem of some sort.

Decaying mental health and/or the likelihood of mental illness is not game theory or any dimension of chess.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:30:53am

As an optimist, I do believe that we are getting near the end of the Republican control of the conversation, but, in hindsight, it’s really very understandable why Democrats can be appear to be timid. Think about the risks they’ve taken and the rewards they’ve gotten:

Accomplishments: VRA and CRA, Medicare, Medicaid.
Result: Loss of vote of white people and have yet to recover.

Accomplishments: Recovered from early 90s recession and attempted to create universal health care.
Result: Loss of Congress.

Accomplishments: Election of first African American president, recovery from Great Depression, first significant change to health care since Medicaid.
Result: Loss of House, loss of state legislatures, loss of House, election of idiot.

You could reasonably argue that Democrats need to get better at messaging, but all of these accomplishments have helped most of America, but whites in this country could only hear BLACK when these are mentioned (the CRA and VRA help women, and yet we still end up with white women voting for the conservative).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:34:28am

re: #236 Belafon

As an optimist, I do believe that we are getting near the end of the Republican control of the conversation, but, in hindsight, it’s really very understandable why Democrats can be appear to be timid. Think about the risks they’ve taken and the rewards they’ve gotten:

Accomplishments: VRA and CRA, Medicare, Medicaid.
Result: Loss of vote of white people and have yet to recover.

Accomplishments: Recovered from early 90s recession and attempted to create universal health care.
Result: Loss of Congress.

Accomplishments: Election of first African American president, recovery from Great Depression, first significant change to health care since Medicaid.
Result: Loss of House, loss of state legislatures, loss of House, election of idiot.

You could reasonably argue that Democrats need to get better at messaging, but all of these accomplishments have helped most of America, but whites in this country could only hear BLACK when these are mentioned (the CRA and VRA help women, and yet we still end up with white women voting for the conservative).

The maddening thing to me is when the far left re-enforces a lot of what the right says. The Dems have accomplished alot, that’s absolutely true. and you’re absolutely right. too many whites in this country only hear BLACK when a lot of these accomplishments are mentioned. That’s the legacy of the Southern Strategy right there but I’d add the Southern Strategy had impacts up North too and that is the real reason why the WWC left the Dems. Maybe our messaging does need to be better but sometimes voters are just assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:36:40am

I don’t feel bad about calling voters assholes. I’m not a politician nor do I have political aspirations but goddamnit too many of my fellow whites are too focused on resentment or not wanting to understand. One of my dad’s friends texted him a photo of a black cemetery the other day and talked about all the things the guy would have witnessed in his life after being freed from slavery. He mentioned WWI. I really wanted Dad to mention that he would have had to live in fear that his grandson serving in uniform may have been lynched in uniform upon his return home. Jim Crow’s legacy is still with us.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:37:24am

re: #127 Big Beautiful Door

The way the districts are gerrymandered, the Democrats will have to win nationally by a 10 point margin to have a decent shot at winning a majority in the House.

We have 14 Republican seats in CA that are NOT gerrymandered. If we can pick up all of them (and ALL their neighbors are working on it), that leaves about 16 to pick up elsewhere.

It sounds like you’re telling us to just give up. Please do it somewhere else.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:42:39am

re: #236 Belafon

As an optimist, I do believe that we are getting near the end of the Republican control of the conversation, but, in hindsight, it’s really very understandable why Democrats can be appear to be timid. Think about the risks they’ve taken and the rewards they’ve gotten:

Accomplishments: VRA and CRA, Medicare, Medicaid.
Result: Loss of vote of white people and have yet to recover.

Accomplishments: Recovered from early 90s recession and attempted to create universal health care.
Result: Loss of Congress.

Accomplishments: Election of first African American president, recovery from Great Depression, first significant change to health care since Medicaid.
Result: Loss of House, loss of state legislatures, loss of House, election of idiot.

You could reasonably argue that Democrats need to get better at messaging, but all of these accomplishments have helped most of America, but whites in this country could only hear BLACK when these are mentioned (the CRA and VRA help women, and yet we still end up with white women voting for the conservative).

FDR instituted programs that focused on helping the white poor. Bernie supporters often overlook how ingrained sexism and racism are in our society (as well as other societies). Of course, if Clinton had half of Obama’s charisma, she may have overcome those issues, despite Comey’s interference.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:48:07am

re: #239 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

We have 14 Republican seats in CA that are NOT gerrymandered. If we can pick up all of them (and ALL their neighbors are working on it), that leaves about 16 to pick up elsewhere.

It sounds like you’re telling us to just give up. Please do it somewhere else.

I have to keep reminding people that a wave election can overcome all obstacles. That happened in 1994 — when in Chicago, a no-name Republican won in a deep blue district. All you need is the right, simple, and consistent message — like Gingrich’s Contract For America.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:48:50am

Happy Friday…

And I let Merle touch sand for the first time…he liked it…and the water.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:49:41am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

FDR instituted programs that focused on helping the white poor. Bernie supporters often overlook how ingrained sexism and racism are in our society (as well as other societies). Of course, if Clinton had half of Obama’s charisma, she may have overcome those issues, despite Comey’s interference.

They do ignore that and it infuriates me.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:50:22am

The photo at the thread-head seemed somehow familiar.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:51:38am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

FDR instituted programs that focused on helping the white poor. Bernie supporters often overlook how ingrained sexism and racism are in our society (as well as other societies). Of course, if Clinton had half of Obama’s charisma, she may have overcome those issues, despite Comey’s interference.

Half of Obama’s charisma would take up 25% of most people’s processing power. Clinton wouldn’t be a policy wonk if she had that much.

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meteor  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:53:42am

re: #242 darthstar

Goggies!!

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dangerman  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:55:46am

re: #236 Belafon


You could reasonably argue that Democrats need to get better at messaging, but all of these accomplishments have helped most of America, but whites in this country could only hear BLACK when these are mentioned (the CRA and VRA help women, and yet we still end up with white women voting for the conservative).

“liberty and justice for all”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:56:15am

re: #245 Belafon

Half of Obama’s charisma would take up 25% of most people’s processing power. Clinton wouldn’t be a policy wonk if she had that much.

That’s true. We’re imperfect creatures. Every politician is going to have imperfections.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:56:31am

re: #247 dangerman

“liberty and justice for all”

Simple and in the damn pledge.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:57:41am

re: #242 darthstar

Happy Friday…

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Merle’s coat looks like it is really coming in now. He’s getting bluer!

Good Banjo flying dog image too.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:57:57am

re: #230 Decatur Deb

I was, and it probably still is. We can’t rely on these people screwing up every attempt to kill it.

I will continue to take one battle at a time.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 8:59:32am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Simple and in the damn pledge.

We all know the only important words in the pledge were those original words, “Under God.”

//

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:00:18am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Simple and in the damn pledge.

And not enough by itself. There also needs to be a real response by the Democrats to the issues raised by Occupy etc., without compromising the liberty and justice for all part of the platform at all.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:01:06am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

I have to keep reminding people that a wave election can overcome all obstacles. That happened in 1994 — when in Chicago, a no-name Republican won in a deep blue district. All you need is the right, simple, and consistent message — like Gingrich’s Contract For America.

Please! That was the Contract ON America.

:)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:01:48am

re: #251 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I will continue to take one battle at a time.

Right now we’re depending on 3 Republican women to do the fighting for us.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:01:52am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Merle’s coat looks like it is really coming in now. He’s getting bluer!

Good Banjo flying dog image too.

I thought it was nice of the heron to let me get three shots of Banjo in front of it before it flew down the beach fifty yards.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:02:57am

re: #247 dangerman

“liberty and justice for all”

Democrats have said things to that effect over and over. And there isn’t a single bill that has been passed by Democrats in the last 60 years that actually favors one group over another. At worse, they level the playing field. But, somehow, steak eating, Cadillac/BMW driving minorities are all that some get out of these acts.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:03:44am

re: #255 Decatur Deb

Right now we’re depending on 3 Republican women to do the fighting for us.

Well, let’s not forget the 48 Democrats holding firm.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:04:20am

re: #258 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Well, let’s not forget the 48 Democrats holding firm.

That’s the part that scares me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:06:18am

re: #257 Belafon

Democrats have said things to that effect over and over. And there isn’t a single bill that has been passed by Democrats in the last 60 years that actually favors one group over another. At worse, they level the playing field. But, somehow, steak eating, Cadillac/BMW driving minorities are all that some get out of these acts.

Thanks Ronnie fucking Reagan.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:06:29am
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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:12:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:15:18am

re: #254 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Please! That was the Contract ON America.

:)

Actually that’s what I typed originally!!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:15:33am
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ericblair  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:17:37am

re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter

I have to keep reminding people that a wave election can overcome all obstacles. That happened in 1994 — when in Chicago, a no-name Republican won in a deep blue district. All you need is the right, simple, and consistent message — like Gingrich’s Contract For America.

It looks like national politics are powered by backlash. One faction wins, gets complacent and sleepy and somewhat disappointed, and the other gets angry and energized. Tables flip, repeat.

This back and forth about Bernie is entertaining but irrelevant. The battlefield for the next election will be nothing like 2016. Both parties will crush insurgents out of the starting gate and fake news will be real news on day one. Clinton is not running for anything ever again.

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:21:50am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:22:36am

Good morning from soggy, windy Corpus Christi!

We spent yesterday evening boarding up our windows and securing anything that might become a projectile — my husband even screwed the picnic table to the fence! I’m currently at work and will ride the storm out here with our residents who did not evacuate with their families.

Husband is coming here after noon with the dogs, and we will shelter in place and try to keep our residents safe and dry.

I’ll update as I am able until the power goes out.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:25:04am

re: #268 Flying Squirrel Girl

Good morning from soggy, windy Corpus Christi!

We spent yesterday evening boarding up our windows and securing anything that might become a projectile — my husband even screwed the picnic table to the fence! I’m currently at work and will ride the storm out here with our residents who did not evacuate with their families.

Husband is coming here after noon with the dogs, and we will shelter in place and try to keep our residents safe and dry.

I’ll update as I am able until the power goes out.

Good luck. May the damage be minimal and may the waters recede quickly.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:26:31am

re: #266 ericblair

It looks like national politics are powered by backlash. One faction wins, gets complacent and sleepy and somewhat disappointed, and the other gets angry and energized. Tables flip, repeat.

We’re doing our best to make sure that no-one sleeps ever again. The threat of Trump and those like him should be a good alarm clock for a good while. We hope.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:27:08am

re: #263 darthstar

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The only briefing that Trump can sit still for…

It’s gonna rain

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:30:28am

re: #271 makeitstop

The only briefing that Trump can sit still for…

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More relevant:

Ollie Williams

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:32:55am

Well, I’m off to my volunteer job. BBL

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:46:41am

re: #247 dangerman

“liberty and justice for all”

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Simple and in the damn pledge.

Our candidate for the House had his stump speech based on lines from the pledge. It was the worst stump speech in history. He was also one of the worst speakers in history. (He also uses common sense for the common good)

He lost 61% to 39%. And he’s decided to run again. Sigh.

In addition to good messaging, we need good candidates. That’s why I’m kinda pumped about EmergeAmerica—recruiting and training women candidates, and doing a pretty good job of it so far.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:47:12am

re: #268 Flying Squirrel Girl

Good morning from soggy, windy Corpus Christi!

We spent yesterday evening boarding up our windows and securing anything that might become a projectile — my husband even screwed the picnic table to the fence! I’m currently at work and will ride the storm out here with our residents who did not evacuate with their families.

Husband is coming here after noon with the dogs, and we will shelter in place and try to keep our residents safe and dry.

I’ll update as I am able until the power goes out.

Sounds like you have things well in hand - stay safe! One hint though: if you are worried about losing power for any length of time, be sure that every portable device you have has its battery charged to max: including any backup batteries/power sources you may have. And that said devices are set to whatever “power save” mode will limit power usage (vet of Irene and Sandy).

And “screwed the picnic table to the fence” is a great phrase, btw…..

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:48:57am

Near Downtown Houston:
Light sprinkles of rain all morning as the outer bands of Harvey fly over.
Just made a trip to the local Kroger for a bag of charcoal for cooking when the power fails. Lots of empty shelves, lines of people, limit of 2 24-packs of bottled water. A beer truck standing by in the street outside, stocking the store for panic beer buying.

Later I need to go home and screw my old back fence to the neighbor’s new back fence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:53:08am

re: #276 jaunte

Later I need to go home and screw my old back fence to the neighbor’s new back fence.

A rare instance where being screwed due to a Hurricane is a good thing…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:56:07am

re: #61 teleskiguy

I have no doubt that Bernie Sanders is going to ratfuck the 2018 midterm elections as much as he can because he’s a fuckin’ egomaniac a lot like Fuckface Von Clownstick. He’ll sow divisions among Democrats gleefully, implement purity tests, and denounce good and strong Democrats like Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, all the while getting fat and rich off his drooling sycophant followers. Bernie can die in a fire.

Sanders and his followers are acting exactly the same way as Wallace voters in the 60/70s and Jackson voters in the 80s. Disrupting the party and damning the consequences…

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:57:13am

re: #275 Jay C

Gotta admit, it is a bit chilling when everyone who calls finished the conversation with, “God bless y’all.”

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:57:59am

Yeah, this isn’t good.

Trump’s also finding it tough to fill 100s of other positions (by design or actively sabotaging government by making it impossible for qualified people to consider working for a rabble rousing reactionary know nothing like Trump).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:58:34am

re: #268 Flying Squirrel Girl

Good luck and stay safe!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:59:14am

re: #280 lawhawk

Yeah, this isn’t good.

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I need a paying job but I’m as qualified for this as Trump was President. Man that’s not good.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:59:17am

Military-Style Christian Sect Leader Charged in Child Sex Abuse Case

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A leader of a New Mexico military-style Christian sect is facing dozens of child sexual abuse charges in a case that authorities say is connected to widespread abuse by the religious commune.

Peter Green of the Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps in the remote community of Fence Lake, New Mexico, faces 100 counts of criminal sexual penetration of a child, according to a criminal complaint filed August 15. Sect members Deborah Green, Joshua Green and Stacey Miller also face various charges ranging from child abuse, bribery and not reporting a birth.

Miller faces one count each of intentional abuse of a child age 12-18, bribery of a witness and not reporting a birth.

In a statement, the group said the allegations “are totally false” and similar to others the group has faced over the years.

“We don’t know who all the accusers are, but the accusations are just re-runs of old lies that have been investigated and shown to be malicious attacks against a legitimate ministry, time and again,” the statement said.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 9:59:49am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart

Military-Style Christian Sect Leader Charged in Child Sex Abuse Case

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Has Robert Spencer or Milo commented on this? *crickets*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:01:46am

re: #284 electrotek

Has Robert Spencer or Milo commented on this? *crickets*

Of course not.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:04:21am

re: #274 BeachDem

Our candidate for the House had his stump speech based on lines from the pledge. It was the worst stump speech in history. He was also one of the worst speakers in history. (He also uses common sense for the common good)

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He lost 61% to 39%. And he’s decided to run again. Sigh.

In addition to good messaging, we need good candidates. That’s why I’m kinda pumped about EmergeAmerica—recruiting and training women candidates, and doing a pretty good job of it so far.

In a wave election, good candidates don’t matter. People will vote against the incumbent without knowing anything about the other candidate. If there aren’t any good candidates, even a less than mediocre one will do. Of course, if you want the candidate to be reelected, that’s another story.

What’s important is to have an effective national message. The days of “all politics are local” are over. All politics are national now.

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MsJ  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:07:09am

So, it’s Friday. What fresh hell will we see at 4:00 today? Anyone?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:10:32am

Really, the pic for this Post needs an eye-bleach warning. NOt something one want’s to see when ever.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:10:59am

re: #287 MsJ

So, it’s Friday. What fresh hell will we see at 4:00 today? Anyone?

There anybody left in the WH for Drumpf to fire?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:12:19am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart

power-mongering and criminal sexual behavior seem to go together.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:15:27am

re: #287 MsJ

So, it’s Friday. What fresh hell will we see at 4:00 today? Anyone?

If Shitler can figure how to sideline hurricane coverage, I will actually be amazed.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:15:29am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart

Military-Style Christian Sect Leader Charged in Child Sex Abuse Case

Sounds like one a them there “Sharia law No-Go zones”. They’re all over you know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:21:59am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

If Shitler can figure how to sideline hurricane coverage, I will actually be amazed.

Short of him deciding to nuke NK, I don’t think that’s possible.

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Skip Intro  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:22:07am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

If Shitler can figure how to sideline hurricane coverage, I will actually be amazed.

Maybe he’ll send Pence to Texas to hand out Play Doh again.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:23:06am

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

But bacon tastes sooooo good!

Ahem…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:25:13am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart

Can’t say I’m shocked. I’d heard the name of that group, “Aggressive Christianity” before, in passing - I figured they were some kinda doomsday cult.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:25:16am

re: #292 Sir John Barron

Sounds like one a them there “Sharia law No-Go zones”. They’re all over you know.

//

All religious fanatics are like that: their communities are “No-Go zones”. They are governed by their own laws, regardless of the official laws that apply to the community. The Branch Davidian compound near Waco Texas was a perfect example of one that ended in tragedy.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:26:42am

English Translations of Obscure Medieval Texts Go Online

Stanford University’s Global Medieval Sourcebook is a new online compendium of English translations for overlooked Middle Ages texts.

Many of the selections were popular when they were written, but were later overlooked by scholarship as lowbrow, and thus left untranslated. “The Drunkard,” a Middle High German 13th-century narrative verse, has 416 lines about a most epic inebriate: “However large the vessel might have been / It was not big enough for his drink, / unless one continually refilled it.” Another Middle High German 13th-century narrative verse — “The Gosling” — is a rather bawdy tale of a young monk who sets out from the monastery into a world of which he is ignorant. When he first sees a woman, he asks his abbot what she is, and the abbot attempts to dissuade him by saying women are “geese”: “The monk said: ’ My goodness! / Geese are lovely. / Why don’t we have geese? / They would fit in nicely / on the pasture at the monastery.’” Needless to say, the monk is soon seduced, and the abbot deeply embarrassed. Both of these texts demonstrate knowing humor, and a bit of playful depravity, not always associated with medieval manuscripts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:28:11am

re: #280 lawhawk

On Morning Joe they are reporting the Trump administration has not even received resumes for 250 appointed posts.

Soros is paying applicants to withhold their resumes…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:29:16am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Soros is paying applicants to withhold their resumes…

He still owes me for all the protesting.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:30:54am

re: #274 BeachDem

He lost 61% to 39%. And he’s decided to run again. Sigh.

Sounds like Mal. If you’re going to fight, lose big. Was he wearing his brown coat?

Who were you thinking of when you hear “Mal”?

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:32:41am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:33:58am

re: #302 bratwurst

Michael Brown was the worst Obama appointment ever.

/

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:35:02am

re: #287 MsJ

So, it’s Friday. What fresh hell will we see at 4:00 today? Anyone?

Depending on how much of Fox News’ airtime Hurricane Harvey takes up - Trump expects to hear his name in nearly every segment - we could see up to a category 2 meltdown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:35:09am

re: #302 bratwurst

TV news stations are interviewing former head of FEMA Michael Brown about Hurrican Harvey. Jesus that’s crazy.

actually a good move, it reminds us that Trump has been derelict in his duty to appoint people to provide for public safety in emergency situations…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:35:32am

re: #302 bratwurst

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Just why.

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petesh  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:37:34am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

Can’t say I’m shocked. I’d heard the name of that group, “Aggressive Christianity” before, in passing - I figured they were some kinda doomsday cult.

I thought it was Creed reboot.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:37:41am

Erick son of Erick proposing that idiots can outbluster a hurricane.

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b_sharp  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:38:14am
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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:38:33am

re: #298 Birth Control Works

English Translations of Obscure Medieval Texts Go Online

Many of the selections were popular when they were written, but were later overlooked by scholarship as lowbrow, and thus left untranslated. “The Drunkard,” a Middle High German 13th-century narrative verse, has 416 lines about a most epic inebriate: “However large the vessel might have been / It was not big enough for his drink, / unless one continually refilled it.” Another Middle High German 13th-century narrative verse — “The Gosling” — is a rather bawdy tale of a young monk who sets out from the monastery into a world of which he is ignorant. When he first sees a woman, he asks his abbot what she is, and the abbot attempts to dissuade him by saying women are “geese”: “The monk said: ’ My goodness! / Geese are lovely. / Why don’t we have geese? / They would fit in nicely / on the pasture at the monastery.’” Needless to say, the monk is soon seduced, and the abbot deeply embarrassed. Both of these texts demonstrate knowing humor, and a bit of playful depravity, not always associated with medieval manuscripts.

And a good guess as to why they were overlooked was whatever religious entity (Monks, Catholic Bishop, Rome/Pope?) saw them decided they should not be seen.

I bet tons of great writings, paintings, drawings, music and songs were all lost over time on purpose by those in control which many times was the religious leaders of the day.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:38:50am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:41:39am

re: #311 ObserverArt

And a good guess as to why they were overlooked was whatever religious entity (Monks, Catholic Bishop, Rome/Pope?) saw them decided they should not be seen.

I bet tons of great writings, paintings, drawings, music and songs were all lost over time on purpose by those in control which many times was the religious leaders of the day.

according to the article, they are considered lesser works and weren’t considered worth translating by scholars over-the-years. Many are not lost, just collecting dust in archives.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:42:38am

The rainbow IR floater is looking very much like a major hurricane:
ssd.noaa.gov

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:43:00am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

The Obamas are living rent-free in their heads.

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Garbage like this makes me wish that a tornado would take a direct hit on Alex Jones!

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:43:02am

Not sounding good…

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:43:12am

re: #312 Birth Control Works

FOX: A bunch of Muslims gathered in one place. Ooga Booga.
CBS: Muslims participated in a terrorist march in Barcelona.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:43:14am

re: #312 Birth Control Works

RNWJ: How come Muslims never speak out against terrorism? Why don’t they protest against it or something?!

EVERYONE: Here; 2,500 Muslims marched to denounce terrorism in Barcelona, Spain.

RWNJ: FAKE NEWS!!

EVERYONE: shakes head, mutters JFC.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:44:12am

re: #312 Birth Control Works

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Unfortunately Muslims in Spain are still receiving the brunt of the backlash thanks to the assholes who took part in the attacks.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:44:15am

Excellent read about riding out a hurricane.

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sagehen  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:44:25am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

Hurricane Harvey is becoming better organised and is up to 110 mph

Also, it’s going to be super-destructive.

Ergo, the hurricane is Republican.

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jeffreyw  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:45:41am
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Interesting Times  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:46:37am

re: #318 Belafon

FOX: A bunch of Muslims gathered in one place. Ooga Booga.
CBS: Muslims participated in a terrorist march in Barcelona.

Er, that kind of doesn’t sound so great either o.O Best to say, “anti-terrorism march” (I know, I know, I’m still the messaging police…but if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that specificity is key - don’t leave remarks open to alternative interpretation if you can help it - disingenuous propagandists will do it anyway, but no need to make it easier for them)

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:47:48am

re: #323 jeffreyw

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beautiful

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:48:29am
Dick Gregory used comedy as one arrow in a quiver of many. He engaged politicians directly, repeatedly fasted to protest injustice, ran for office, and (literally) ran across this treacherous American landscape. All in the name of tipping the scales a little more toward something that one day might look equal. It is infuriating to me that Gregory is now dead, in a year where he must have looked at this country and wondered if anything he did moved the needle at all. It is heartbreaking to think that he is gone, and to imagine that he died in an hour where people were debating what gentleness we should afford neo-Nazis, or how similar white supremacists are to the people fighting against them. There is nothing romantic about that—to leave behind a world that still seems like the one you spent decades chipping away at. But I hope that Dick Gregory left us with an understanding of his true worth: his ability to show a country its ugliest reflection and not let it turn away. To allow a country to laugh at its ugly moments until it cried, until it became angry, until it decided to clean up where it could.

I had the pleasure of meeting and shaking the hand of this man. He was genuine and very sweet.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:48:55am

re: #323 jeffreyw

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Now I want tomato soup and grilled cheese sammich.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:49:21am

re: #268 Flying Squirrel Girl

Stay safe!

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sagehen  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:49:37am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Closed primaries. Yeah how dare a party think only people in their party determine that party’s nominee. BTW Bernie did lose plenty of open primaries as well but he immediately dismissed them because of where they were. Never saw that from the Clinton campaign after they lost some states.

Um… in 2008 we did. And it was a major shitstorm, as I recall. (when Obama won South Carolina, and Bill Clinton commented that it didn’t mean anything because hey, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too…)

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whitebeach  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:50:30am

re: #89 freetoken

Umm, like, ditto.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:52:05am

re: #301 Belafon

Sounds like Mal. If you’re going to fight, lose big. Was he wearing his brown coat?

Who were you thinking of when you hear “Mal”?

Not sure what you’re asking—whenever I hear this particular Mal speak, I think about taking a nap. Then I think of 2010, before we became a new House district, when what I will go to my grave believing was primary shenanigans gave us a candidate winning the primarly 56-44, who had run for office 15 times previously and never won anything, and who kept us from taking the seat in the old district.

en.wikipedia.org

But that was the year of Alvin Green winning the Senate primary, so all attention was on that debacle and no attention was paid to the weirdness of the House primary.

Wait—what was the question again?
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:52:54am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Closed primaries. Yeah how dare a party think only people in their party determine that party’s nominee. BTW Bernie did lose plenty of open primaries as well but he immediately dismissed them because of where they were. Never saw that from the Clinton campaign after they lost some states.

Closed primaries reduce the ability to engage in serious Machiavellian ratfucking. Which is all that some people seem to live for these days…

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:53:11am

re: #324 Interesting Times

Er, that kind of doesn’t sound so great either o.O Best to say, “anti-terrorism march” (I know, I know, I’m still the messaging police…but if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that specificity is key - don’t leave remarks open to alternative interpretation if you can help it - disingenuous propagandists will do it anyway, but no need to make it easier for them)

The reason I’m getting onto CBS is last weekend, when they reported on the <100 Confederate protest and 20,000 counter protest, they lumped them all together, and didn’t distinguish between the actions of any of the groups. They didn’t even point out the difference in size between the groups.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:53:44am

re: #331 BeachDem

Not sure what you’re asking—whenever I hear this particular Mal speak, I think about taking a nap. Then I think of 2010, before we became a new House district, when what I will go to my grave believing was primary shenanigans gave us a candidate winning the primarly 56-44, who had run for office 15 times previously and never won anything, and who kept us from taking the seat in the old district.

en.wikipedia.org

But that was the year of Alvin Green winning the Senate primary, so all attention was on that debacle and no attention was paid to the weirdness of the House primary.

Wait—what was the question again?
/

I was having a Firefly crossover.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:55:17am

re: #329 sagehen

Um… in 2008 we did. And it was a major shitstorm, as I recall. (when Obama won South Carolina, and Bill Clinton commented that it didn’t mean anything because hey, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too…)

Meant in 2016. Sorry. I meant the Clinton campaign in 2016 didn’t dismiss the Red states the way Sanders did. But fair enough.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 25, 2017 • 10:55:41am

re: #317 mmmirele

Not sounding good…

Sure wish I still had The Weather Channel, but the evil warlords at the planet Verizon have told me I don’t need it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:00:49am

re: #309 jaunte

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Erick son of Erick proposing that idiots can outbluster a hurricane.

Texans gonna shoot that hurricane with THERE GUNZ!!!!!!!

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:01:25am

re: #334 Belafon

I was having a Firefly crossover.

Whoosh—right over my head (I never watched Firefly.)

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:01:27am

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

Pew! Pew!

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:02:37am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

All religious fanatics are like that: their communities are “No-Go zones”. They are governed by their own laws, regardless of the official laws that apply to the community. The Branch Davidian compound near Waco Texas was a perfect example of one that ended in tragedy.

Or, for that matter, a number of Ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities in my area (NYC). They may not (always) go off to remote areas to self-segregate (though it helps, sometimes) - the basic principles still apply.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:04:08am

re: #338 BeachDem

Whoosh—right over my head (I never watched Firefly.)

Always recommended. Mal was the captain, a former soldier in the war for self-determination against a dominating central government. His side lost, and he roams the less controlled planets as a thief-for-hire, but is generally looking for a good way to stick it to the Alliance, so he prefers the jobs that screw them over rather than other outsiders.

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:05:20am

How Brazilians rallied behind a Muslim street vendor after being a victim of a hate crime

Although his family has Syrian roots, he is an Egyptian citizen and moved in search of a better economic future when his restaurant had to close.

In Brazil, he didn’t even apply for asylum, instead obtaining a permanent residency card after marrying a local woman with whom he now has a three-month-old son.

“I wasn’t in a war,” he said.

What he is, is an archetypal poor, hard-working, ambitious immigrant.

In Rio, he started selling pies from a tiny table, then the cart.

Now he dreams of a food truck.

Europe, America, and Australia: are you listening?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:06:00am
The corollary to this answer is that these women detest feminism. Many of them came to the alt-right as anti-feminists first, not unlike the men you mention. Their reasons were myriad, but at base I think a lot of them felt ostracized by, angry with, or otherwise disappointed in feminism, which they would define in caricature: an ideology that celebrates man-hating, racially diverse, fat, ugly women demanding whatever they want from the world. The women I examined believe that the progressive feminist agenda castigates traditional wives and mothers and depicts the white man as public enemy number one. (They would call that real racism.) They argue that feminism, which they see as the spawn of washed-up, Marxist, lesbian, and/or Jewish women in the early 1900s has perverted the natural gender order by convincing women to be more like men and men to be more like women.

They’d rather be 2nd-class citizens in a white society than be considered equal with black women in an egalitarian society.

In other words, racism.

(shameless pages post)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:06:04am
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sagehen  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:10:22am

re: #253 EPR-radar

And not enough by itself. There also needs to be a real response by the Democrats to the issues raised by Occupy etc., without compromising the liberty and justice for all part of the platform at all.

“Newsroom” did a fine job of demonstrating why Occupy was a complete waste of everybody’s time

The Newsroom Season 2: Episode #4 Clip “Shelly On Ows” (HBO)

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:13:54am

Flipped on The Weather Channel a few minutes ago.

Sad to hear one of their guys (Paul Goodloe?) have to say after warning how bad this hurricane is going to be due to it stalling for days…”this is not fake news.”

Yeah, that is where we are. Some can not accept the media even when they are trying to save them from a storm, and themselves.

Thanks Trump. Do you realize your words are dangerous? Of course not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:15:11am

re: #346 ObserverArt

Flippen on The Weather Channel a few minutes ago.

Sad to hear one of their guys (Paul Goodloe?) have to say after warning how bad this hurricane is going to be due to it stalling for days…”this is not fake news.”

Yeah, that is where we are. Some can not accept the media even when they are trying to save them from a storm, and themselves.

Thanks Trump. Do you realize your words are dangerous? Of course not.

I can already see them spinning it as hostile media exaggerating storm damage in an attempt to make Trump look incompetent…

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:16:44am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:17:48am

re: #340 Jay C

Or, for that matter, a number of Ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities in my area (NYC). They may not (always) go off to remote areas to self-segregate (though it helps, sometimes) - the basic principles still apply.

The current movie Menashe illustrates this. It takes place in Hasidic area of Brooklyn where, in effect, the rabbi took a son from his widower father and placed him with a married uncle. The secular courts would never have considered the case and the son would have remained with his father.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:20:12am

re: #343 Birth Control Works

They’d rather be 2nd-class citizens in a white society than be considered equal with black women in an egalitarian society.

In other words, racism.

(shameless pages post)

That’s not it for most of them— many of these women are religious and automatically defer to men. Others just don’t like having a woman in authority.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:22:51am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:23:37am

From my email:

Florida yesterday executed Mark Asay — the first white person in state history put to death for killing a Black person — with an experimental drug cocktail.

anyone heard about this?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:23:46am

re: #334 Belafon

I was having a Firefly crossover.

I was wondering if that was where you were going with that question.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:24:00am

re: #350 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s not it for most of them— many of these women are religious and automatically defer to men. Others just don’t like having a woman in authority.

Did you read the article?

It’s racism.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:24:21am

They are giving warnings on TWC of “complete devistration of mobile homes.”

I think Allegro is in a mobile home park in the Houston area. I hope she is going to be okay. I hope she considers packing up and going to a safe zone.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:24:40am

re: #353 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was wondering if that was where you were going with that question.

I was hoping the brown coat reference would give it away.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:25:08am

re: #352 Birth Control Works

From my email:

anyone heard about this?

Several postings here.

Very little news gets skipped around here.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:25:54am

Tablet May Show Babylonians Invented Trigonometry

was a sine of the times. The Plimpton 322 tablet, discovered in the early 1900s in what is now Iraq, has long divided mathematicians confused by its columns and rows of numbers. But researchers from the University of New South Wales now say the 3,700-year-old broken clay tablet is a trigonometric table. That would mean the Babylonians were 1,000 years ahead of the Greeks, who are credited with creating trig. Skeptical colleagues say that while it’s a fascinating interpretation, they’ve yet to be convinced that the tablet proves Mesopotamian math mastery.

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calochortus  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:27:26am

re: #350 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s not it for most of them— many of these women are religious and automatically defer to men. Others just don’t like having a woman in authority.

There’s also the fear that if they are “equal” their husbands won’t have to support them, no one will marry their daughters and everyone will starve or something. Society will break down. They are very, very insecure. This is sad.
I’m a feminist. I’ve also spent most of my adult life as a housewife. As I’ve surely said before, I did this because Mr. C. and I decided together that that is what we wanted to do. I was happy to be home with the kids and drive carpool and all that. I also take care of most of the minor repairs around the house, the yard work and all of that.
I also am happy to let others work things out in their own lives, and not impose my life on others.

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gocart mozart  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:27:51am

Have you ever asked yourself “I wonder what a rap song by ‘Baked Alaska’ would sound like …

Baked Alaska - MAGA ANTHEM (Official Video)


More atrocities here:

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:27:54am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Tablet May Show Babylonians Invented Trigonometry

I claim aliens.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:28:27am

re: #345 sagehen

“Newsroom” did a fine job of demonstrating why Occupy was a complete waste of everybody’s time

[Embedded content]

Video

That’s why I referred to “issues raised by OWS” rather than to OWS itself.

The US is a plutocracy that is rapidly consolidating its power. For example, the banks trashed the economy and caused the great recession while profiting enormously, they got bailed out by the government, and there were no personal consequences to them at all.

OWS was a response to this. No concrete legislation etc. came out of anything they did, but at least we got the 99% and the 1% into the political language, which is a nontrivial first step. You can’t begin to roll back a plutocracy until you can get agreement that the US presently is a plutocracy.

If the Democrats go (or appear to go) with ‘business as usual + a few tweaks here and there’ on economic issues, we’re going to see many awful Republicans get into office using toxic right wing populism.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:29:38am

re: #360 gocart mozart

Have you ever asked yourself “I wonder what a rap song by ‘Baked Alaska’ would sound like …

[Embedded content]

I’d entertain “I wonder what cutting my leg off with a rusty hacksaw feels like” before this.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:30:26am

re: #356 Belafon

I was hoping the brown coat reference would give it away.

Well, brown coat and Mal

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electrotek  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:30:44am

Border Patrol will continue to lock up undocumented Texans fleeing Hurricane Harvey.

As we can’t sink any lower.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:33:44am

re: #360 gocart mozart

Thanks. I hit the play button and now my ears and eyes are bleeding

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:33:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:33:50am

re: #352 Birth Control Works

From my email:

Florida yesterday executed Mark Asay — the first white person in state history put to death for killing a Black person — with an experimental drug cocktail.

anyone heard about this?

Yeah. It was also Florida’s first execution since the US Supreme Court found their death penalty sentencing process unconstitutional. “Conviction by jury-death sentence by single judge.”
Asay was convicted and sentenced by a jury, under previous laws. So, his sentencing was still considered constitutionally sound.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:34:41am

re: #311 ObserverArt

And a good guess as to why they were overlooked was whatever religious entity (Monks, Catholic Bishop, Rome/Pope?) saw them decided they should not be seen.

I bet tons of great writings, paintings, drawings, music and songs were all lost over time on purpose by those in control which many times was the religious leaders of the day.

Are you implying Fr. Guido Sarducci is running a payola scam at L‘Osservatore Romano?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:36:07am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

Are you implying Fr. Guido Sarducci is running a payola scam at L‘Osservatore Romano?

He is an entrepreneur.

Father Guido Sarducci’s Five Minute University

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:36:19am

re: #354 Birth Control Works

Did you read the article?

It’s racism.

You are right: I went through the article too quickly. It does say the women came to the movement through anti-feminism, and based on my readings in the past, much anti-feminism arises from religious traditions. But my comment did not fairly summarize the article.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:37:07am

re: #340 Jay C

Or, for that matter, a number of Ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities in my area (NYC). They may not (always) go off to remote areas to self-segregate (though it helps, sometimes) - the basic principles still apply.

Okay but we are not all crazypants wingnuts women-hating nutjobs.

I have a degree in Math and Computer Science (from 1986), my daughter has a Master’s from Columbia and my daughter-in-law just graduated #1 in her class in ultrasound technology. My daughter & DIL both wanted to go to medical school but didn’t want to take on the massive load of student debt while supporting a family.

Mrs. Baby Whiplash is an MD but Whipsies thinks that she should make less money than penis-having MDs because of reasons which I forget what they even are.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:38:23am

re: #371 Hecuba’s daughter

You are right: I went through the article too quickly. It does say the women came to the movement through anti-feminism, and based on my readings in the past, much anti-feminism arises from religious traditions. But my comment did not fairly summarize the article.

IMHO, most of these women don’t want to be women. They want to be teenage girls, playing with make-up and real baby dolls. They can work for fun, but not because they have to.

I can understand wanting security while raising children (I was a stay-at-home mom -for the most part). I saw parenthood as a reason to force myself to grow-up, not be more dependent.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #352 Birth Control Works

From my email:

anyone heard about this?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:40:21am

re: #373 Birth Control Works

and in this country anyway, white women have depended on black women to do all the heavy lifting, to help them every step of the way.

Alt-Right White women do not want to be considered equal to the Help.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:40:24am

re: #370 Birth Control Works

He is an entrepreneur.

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Gives much better return on the dollar than Trump U.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:41:41am

This thread on Chotiner’s interview of Mark Lilla, who’s currently the Belle of the Ball among NeverTrumpers who want the Democrats to become the party they thought the GOP was…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:41:55am

re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That will be tomorrow.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:42:16am

re: #361 Belafon

I claim aliens.

Math, to me, always seems like something that is discovered, not invented.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:42:54am

re: #365 electrotek

Border Patrol will continue to lock up undocumented Texans fleeing Hurricane Harvey.

As we can’t sink any lower.

The good news is that, much to my surprise, Trump appointed a qualified FEMA Director. I had assumed that either the position was vacant or he had nominated a rwnj talk show host.

slate.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:44:24am

re: #377 Blind Frog Belly White

This thread on Chotiner’s interview of Mark Lilla, who’s currently the Belle of the Ball among NeverTrumpers who want the Democrats to become the party they thought the GOP was…

[Embedded content]

They can form their own party or fix the GOP.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:44:30am
ON THIS DAY

On Aug. 25, 1944, Paris was liberated by Allied forces after four years of Nazi occupation.

NYT email digest

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:44:44am

“It’s a complicated thing. Trust me.”

No, really, it’s a simple thing. White revanchism is really pretty simple. They don’t want to share. Being asked to share feels like oppression.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:44:58am

re: #373 Birth Control Works

IMHO, most of these women don’t want to be women. They want to be teenage girls, playing with make-up and real baby dolls. They can work for fun, but not because they have to.

I can understand wanting security while raising children (I was a stay-at-home mom -for the most part). I saw parenthood as a reason to force myself to grow-up, not be more dependent.

They are thoroughly indoctrinated in the stereotype (made up by Rush Limbaugh) that all “feminazis” are fat, ugly, unshaven armpit, bitter angry man haters who practice abortion as a religious sacrament and who want to genocide all men.

In other words, “feminazis” are just a projection of Rush with a vagina.He also described “feminism” as “affirmative action for ugly women” so they can have the same access to society as ugly men.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:45:25am

I wouldn’t mind making the Nays spend the weekend in Corpus Christi on a fact-finding trip.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:45:39am

Chechnya: Ramzan Kadyrov orders hundreds of divorced couples to get back together ‘to root out extremism’

Almost 1,000 families reunited after the programme launched in June, state television reports

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:46:45am

re: #385 jaunte

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I wouldn’t mind making the Nays spend the weekend in Corpus Christi on a fact-finding trip.

Only one Republican yay. I’m all for helping everyone out after disasters but damnit Republican reps are some assholes.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:49:04am

re: #383 Blind Frog Belly White

Institutionalized racism should be treated with contempt. That helps with the essential project of getting rid of it.

Whites who are in denial about the enormous part that institutionalized racism has played in US history really need to get their heads out of their asses.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:49:56am
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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:51:45am

re: #388 Birth Control Works

Young Chinese men are ‘too fat and masturbate too much’ to join army, state media says

So the government will direct them into more-suitable job opportunities? Like in Internet-related employment?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:52:14am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

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He’d want to do anything if one of his golf courses were in danger.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:53:39am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

He’d want to do anything if one of his golf courses were in danger.

He would make sure that his golf courses get first crack at ALL THE GUBMIT MONEYS.

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EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:53:59am

re: #383 Blind Frog Belly White

Let’s change that quote around a bit:

There was a deep cultural resentment that built up because they felt that the country they loved was stabbed in the back by German leadership when they surrendered in WWI. It’s a complicated thing. Trust me.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:55:42am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

What we’re seeing here is the Trump Regime pre-emptively lowering any expectations that the Feds will help Americans.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:56:09am

re: #372 The Vicious Babushka

Okay but we are not all crazypants wingnuts women-hating nutjobs
I

Of course not, VB: this is LGF: “present company” is ALWAYS “excepted”…..

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JordanRules  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:56:14am

re: #377 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s nonsense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:56:43am

re: #395 Dr. Matt

What we’re seeing here is the Trump Regime pre-emptively lowering any expectations that the Feds will help Americans.

The Free Market will sort things out much more efficiently…

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:56:52am
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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:57:17am

re: #395 Dr. Matt

What we’re seeing here is the Trump Regime pre-emptively lowering any expectations that the Feds will help Americans.

“Hey, you lost your eligibility when you drove into standing water.”

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JordanRules  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:57:50am

re: #395 Dr. Matt

This is the pivot our media should have been prepped for.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:58:42am

Impressive storm:

google.org

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2017 • 11:59:35am

The Gulf of Mexico is reclaiming the coast.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:00:06pm

re: #389 EPR-radar

Institutionalized racism should be treated with contempt. That helps with the essential project of getting rid of it.

Whites who are in denial about the enormous part that institutionalized racism has played in US history really need to get their heads out of their asses.

I read something the other day, in an FB post one of my family shared. It said that white fears of racism make it harder to fight racism. The words ‘racism’ and ‘racist’ have become so toxic, and it’s too important to white people to deny any hint of racism that they can’t look at their own feelings and reactions honestly, so they can’t deal with them.

Boy, is that true! I was having a conversation on FB with my Wingnut Cousin and a friend of his, about racism. I confessed that because of being raised as what I call ‘Whitey McWhiteGuy, in Whitesville, Whitesylvania’, I experience more anxiety encountering, for example, a young black man on the street than I would an otherwise identical young black man. I said we all pretty much have these feelings.

One of them said, “You’re saying all white people are racist!” This WOULD HAVE BEEN an opening to say, “No, that’s just an emotional reaction, but you have to ACKNOWLEDGE IT before you can choose not to respond from it”

That’s what I WOULD HAVE said. But my Idiot Brother chimed in. “Yes, all white people are a little racist” he said. And immediately the door slammed shut. He’d called them racists, and that was the end of the productive conversation. (this is part of why I call him my Idiot Brother - he’s too in love with turns of phrase).

The words ‘racism’ and ‘racist’ are conversation killers because we if we own up to the feelings, we can’t ever say “There’s not a racist bone in my body!” or “I’m the least racist person you’ll ever meet!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:02:09pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

The words ‘racism’ and ‘racist’ are conversation killers because we if we own up to the feelings, we can’t ever say “There’s not a racist bone in my body!” or “I’m the least racist person you’ll ever meet!”

The word has become almost meaningless and totally useless except as a weapon in the shouting match that any public discussion of race has degenerated into…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:03:58pm

A hurricane that arrives on the weekend sucks because weekday hurricane parties are like adult snow days.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:04:01pm

It’s pretty funny, but I think the image is fake

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:05:30pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe your brother should respond “Well, I can tell you that, as I’ve learned more, there are things I’ve done that are racists that I was brought up to think they were normal.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:06:13pm

re: #405 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The word has become almost meaningless and totally useless except as a weapon in the shouting match that any public discussion of race has degenerated into…

And therein lies the problem. We can’t talk about race because white people are too fucking afraid of being called racist to listen when POCs* try to tell them that their experience of America is not the same as ours.

*That abbreviation bothers me, for a wholly trivial reason. ‘POCs’ translates in my mind to ‘Person Of Colors’. But I suppose PsOC would be too strange looking.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:07:45pm

re: #407 FormerDirtDart

It’s pretty funny, but I think the image is fake

[Embedded content]

Getting her to lift her right hand off her thigh would have been a challenge.

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JordanRules  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:08:12pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

IMO there was nothing wrong with what your brother said. Protecting this insidious white fragility is what concerns me. Remember that Twitter thread with the pics of the super angry Nazis in Charlottesville that went on to list all the way they aren’t oppressed and to imagine the anger if they actually were? They need to grow up and be ready to do the work. We don’t all need to become master communicators in social studies to avoid their feelings especially when they are starting from a fucked up place. They need to rise to meet humanity.

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JordanRules  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:09:19pm

re: #405 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As a POC I completely disagree. It can be a life saving warning for us.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:10:30pm

I wonder if Allegro bugged out?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:10:44pm

re: #408 Belafon

Maybe your brother should respond “Well, I can tell you that, as I’ve learned more, there are things I’ve done that are racists that I was brought up to think they were normal.”

Like I said, he’s too in love with the turn of phrase. I knew what he meant when he said ‘All white people are racist’, but to them, he was saying all white people = KKK.

He does that sort of thing a lot. In discussing the spoiler role third party candidates play in elections like this year, and 2000, he told me “You’ve bought in to the Duopoly.” My eyes rolled so hard it almost hurt.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:12:12pm

re: #413 Stanley Sea

I wonder if Allegro bugged out?

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Amazing how quickly it turned from a TS to a Cat3 just crossing the Gulf of Mexico. Count ourselves lucky it wasn’t already a Cat1-2 when it hit the gulf.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:14:02pm

re: #410 darthstar

Getting her to lift her right hand off her thigh would have been a challenge.

well, the straps could possibly have been pulled thru the space, then re-laced thru vest. But, it’s the hair on top of the vest below the right shoulder that I had me suspicious.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:16:23pm

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

re: #395 Dr. Matt

OK: I realize that in the Age Of Trump, one’s political expectations have to be lowered a bit (to a level which makes the Mines of Moria look like a shallow trench, but never mind for now): but SRSLY? WTF?
In the prep for the possibility of a major disastrous hurricane striking a hugely-populated region of a major state, with the possibility probability of epic flooding and catastrophic damage, the best the Federal agencies tasked with disaster relief can do is spout trite slogans about “self-responsibility”, and seemingly work to LOWER the public’s expectations of what the government can do to help?
And, just to make it worse, appear to be prioritizing rounding up “illegals”, rather than helping people cope with the possible erasure-by-flood of their communities??

I posted a comment elsewhere saying (actually partly-joking) that Hurricane Harvey may be “Trump’s Katrina” - but it doesn’t seem so funny any more…

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:16:31pm

re: #409 Blind Frog Belly White

And therein lies the problem. We can’t talk about race because white people are too fucking afraid of being called racist to listen when POCs* try to tell them that their experience of America is not the same as ours.

*That abbreviation bothers me, for a wholly trivial reason. ‘POCs’ translates in my mind to ‘Person Of Colors’. But I suppose PsOC would be too strange looking.

Jodi Picoult, I think, has a pretty good (white woman’s) take on it (her latest book, Small Great Things is about a black nurse who is barred by a white supremecist from caring for his baby.)

Here is the grievous mistake I had made for the majority of my life: I assumed that racism is synonymous with bias. Yet you could take every white supremacist and ship him off to Mars and you’d still have racism in the world. That’s because racism is systemic and institutional, but it is both perpetuated and dismantled in individual acts. Racism is the white lady standing in line at the bus stop who moves her purse to the opposite side when a black man comes to wait beside her. It’s the fact that if you’re black and convicted of a crime, justice may not be so just: although African Americans are not even 13% of the U.S. population they are 37% of those arrested for drug offenses; black drug defendants are 20% more likely to be sentenced to prison than white defendants. It’s the realization that although people of color can likely name three shampoos that white people use, the reverse is rarely true.

It’s easy to see the headwinds of racism — the obstacles that make it harder for people of color to achieve success. It’s more challenging to see the tailwinds of racism — the ways that being white makes it easier to achieve success. We like to believe that we succeed because we worked hard, or because we were smart. It’s harder to wrap our heads around the idea that the reason we might have a job or have gained admission to a college is a direct result of the fact that a person of color was never given that opportunity. Admitting that racism has played a part in our success means admitting that the American dream isn’t quite so accessible to all. No wonder we actively avoid discussing racism — it requires us to completely restructure the fictional narrative we’ve created of our lives. But then again, unlike people of color, we don’t have to talk about race. For us, it’s not omnipresent and it’s not a matter of life or death. We avoid the topic because we can. Ignorance is a privilege too.

time.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:19:52pm

I’m 850 miles from Corpus Christi. It’s raining. Should I be worried?

/

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:21:15pm

Bears 1 - Mankind 0

This Bear Really Wants Some Barbecue

This Bear Really Wants Some Barbecue

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:21:53pm

OK, this is a WTF moment

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:22:11pm

re: #395 Dr. Matt

What we’re seeing here is the Trump Regime pre-emptively lowering any expectations that the Feds will help Americans.

Yup. Per this brainfart from March:

Trump wants to fund wall with cuts to TSA, FEMA and Coast Guard

nypost.com

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whitebeach  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:22:27pm

re: #413 Stanley Sea

I wonder if Allegro bugged out?

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I hope so. It’s like anymouse’s brother down there, “ready to leave at a moment’s notice.” This is the moment. This is the notice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:22:27pm

re: #411 JordanRules

IMO there was nothing wrong with what your brother said. Protecting this insidious white fragility is what concerns me. Remember that Twitter thread with the pics of the super angry Nazis in Charlottesville that went on to list all the way they aren’t oppressed and to imagine the anger if they actually were? They need to grow up and be ready to do the work. We don’t all need to become master communicators in social studies to avoid their feelings especially when they are starting from a fucked up place. They need to rise to meet humanity.

If you can come up with another way to get rid of white fragility, I’m all ears. The only way I can think of is trying to get people to look at things from a different perspective. That’s why I started by confessing my own racist reactions, without using the words racist or racism.

But, hell - I couldn’t even get them to understand how deeply racist their ‘Democratic Plantation’ rhetoric is. So what do I know?

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:23:28pm

re: #413 Stanley Sea

I wonder if Allegro bugged out?

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I posted this upthread….

re: #355 ObserverArt

They are giving warnings on TWC of “complete devistration of mobile homes.”

I think Allegro is in a mobile home park in the Houston area. I hope she is going to be okay. I hope she considers packing up and going to a safe zone.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:25:05pm

The press just yelled at the yam while he was boarding marine one re: the hurricane - his response = “good luck everyone”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:26:30pm

re: #418 BeachDem

This! This! A thousand times, this!

It does a great job of encapsulating it, right down to admitting that you’ve been playing the game on easy makes your achievements less special.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:26:50pm

re: #425 ObserverArt

I posted this upthread….

For what it is worth, my understanding is she is in the Houston area, which is not the same area where the “complete devastation of mobile homes” is being discussed/a possibility. That is not to say that Houston is clear or the hurricane won’t change course, but it’s likely the biggest risk she’s facing is flooding.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:29:24pm

re: #428 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For what it is worth, my understanding is she is in the Houston area, which is not the same area where the “complete devastation of mobile homes” is being discussed/a possibility. That is not to say that Houston is clear or the hurricane won’t change course, but it’s likely the biggest risk she’s facing is flooding.

Mobile homes in severe storms just concern me. They float, they fly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:32:14pm

re: #410 darthstar

Getting her to lift her right hand off her thigh would have been a challenge.

The thing slips on over the head and then fastens at the sides so it’s not impossible to dress up a statue in it.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:33:21pm

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

This! This! A thousand times, this!

It does a great job of encapsulating it, right down to admitting that you’ve been playing the game on easy makes your achievements less special.

I know the thread is dead, but if you’re still here and you’re a fiction reader, Small Great Things is a pretty interesting read. I started it right after the election, looking for a “mindless distraction” but had to put it down for awhile as the first few chapters on the white supremacists were pretty disturbing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:36:43pm

re: #431 BeachDem

I know the thread is dead, but if you’re still here and you’re a fiction reader, Small Great Things is a pretty interesting read. I started it right after the election, looking for a “mindless distraction” but had to put it down for awhile as the first few chapters on the white supremacists were pretty disturbing.

I dunno. I’m finding reality disturbing enough!
/////

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:39:41pm

re: #421 FormerDirtDart

OK, this is a WTF moment

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I’m really not sure which is worse - the lack of pilots for a fairly simple training aircraft or the fact that said simple training aircraft has such significant issues that they were all grounded and that the ones they could fly out had to do so below 10,000 feet so that the pilots didn’t need oxygen.

Ah, bingo. From Wiki:

Over the past five years physiological episodes linked to problems with the T-45’s oxygen system have nearly have quadrupled, according to testimony from senior naval aviators in April 2017.[14] As of June 12, 2017, the Goshawk remained grounded except for instructor pilots; students were not allowed to fly the planes

The key is instructor pilots are all that are allowed to fly them. That’s why they had so few “qualified” pilots available.

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BeachDem  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:41:42pm

re: #432 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. I’m finding reality disturbing enough!
/////

That’s why I had to put it down and read something else. But it’s really good—and she always researches her books well, even though she’s often classified as “chick lit.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:44:36pm

re: #434 BeachDem

That’s why I had to put it down and read something else. But it’s really good—and she always researches her books well, even though she’s often classified as “chick lit.”

The first half of ‘Between the World and Me’ was a really hard read for me. I wanted to cry, scream, and puke all at the same time.

436
Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:47:36pm

re: #420 Dr. Matt

Bears 1 - Mankind 0

This Bear Really Wants Some Barbecue

[Embedded content]

Video

The bear’s tagged, meaning he’s a nuisance. I bet he gets shot for this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:48:46pm

re: #323 jeffreyw

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Brings back memories of when I could eat tomato soup and a grilled cheese sandwich without having a massive spike in my blood sugar…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2017 • 12:52:52pm

re: #435 Blind Frog Belly White

The first half of ‘Between the World and Me’ was a really hard read for me. I wanted to cry, scream, and puke all at the same time.

But, you know, going back and reading what I just wrote, I realize that’s pretty fucking lame. I mean, I got all upset READING ABOUT IT. How much worse to live it?

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 25, 2017 • 1:11:12pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

But bacon tastes sooooo good!

It does! Sometimes it ain’t easy.


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