Trump Ranted: “Iran Test-Fired a Missile.” Today We Find Out There Was No Missile.

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Saturday: Trump rants about a new “Ballistic Missile” (capitalized for some weird reason known only to the Trump-thing) “capable of reaching Israel.”

Today: we find out there was no missile. The launch was faked.

Iranian state television released video footage Friday claiming to show the launch of a new type of medium-range ballistic missile, a few hours after it was displayed during a military parade in Tehran.

But it turns out Iran never fired a ballistic missile, sources say.

The video released by the Iranians was more than seven months old – dating back to a failed launch in late January, which resulted in the missile exploding shortly after liftoff, according to two U.S. officials.

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276 comments

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:33:49pm

Now Iran is trolling Trump. Could they want him to cancel the agreement because they know that the rest of the world will ignore Trump’s demands to re-instate sanctions, while freeing Iran from compliance with the deal?

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prairiefire  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:34:12pm

I sure the hell hope there are some deep state people who know what is going on.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:34:52pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:35:38pm

re: #2 prairiefire

I sure the hell hope there are some deep state people who know what is going on.

I’m sure there are. Unfortunately, the more relevant question is more likely to be: Does anyone really have a leash on POTUS* Witless Fucking Cocksplat?

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scottslemmons  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:36:30pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Lookit you, so fancy with your founding of media mini-empires!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:36:35pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:38:02pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:38:06pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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There’s something funny about people who champion bullies like Milo who actively harass people complaining about bullying.

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scottslemmons  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:38:23pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Can I tell her you also created Twitter and get a significant cash bonus every single time anyone tweets something?

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:39:15pm

Sorry, could not resist.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:40:09pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:40:57pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

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It’s pretty simple. Look at the user name: Erick, son of Erick. What follows is, therefore, automatically a pile of bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:44:20pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

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But I thought the CSA was about heritage. And uh Erick, they have a black coach. I think old Jeff and Calhoun would go ballistic if they saw a black man having any kind of authority. Also as a Steelers fan, piss off you fucker.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:45:41pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs oh yeah, the guy that co-founded PJ Media and then went batshit. Asked Whittle about you. Picking on Milo now? LGFBanned

She has 7 followers. That’s a seven followed by nothing. 7 as in one more than six. One less than 8. It’s not enough for a baseball or football team. Basketball yes, but that might be too ghetto for her. One follower for every day of the week. Lucky 7.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:45:42pm

And of course, the main “point” (IMHO) of the Idiot-in-Chief’s tweet is the “capable of reaching Israel” bit: i.e., Iranians are the Evil-Boogeymen-of-the-Universe villains dedicated solely/monomaniacally to “eradicating” Israel (presumably by the nuclear-bomb Holocaust Barack Obama enabled by his “weak diplomacy”).

Maroon…..

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:45:56pm

Someone should point out to Erick that the Steelers did what NFL teams did until 2009.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:46:26pm

Fuck Chelsea Manning. And anyone who feels she’s being unfairly treated because she’s done her time. Canada isn’t required to let her emigrate…maybe she should try Saudi Arabia.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:46:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:48:24pm

re: #17 darthstar

Fuck Chelsea Manning. And anyone who feels she’s being unfairly treated because she’s done her time. Canada isn’t required to let her emigrate…maybe she should try Saudi Arabia.

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TBH I disagreed with Obama’s choice to give her clemency. She should be thankful that he did that rather than bitching about that.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:49:34pm

Thanos will have to update his post: littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:49:36pm

re: #18 Ace-o-aces

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Actually I saw the presser him and Cam Heyward had today in Pittsburgh, they don’t regret it all. They wanted to be unified as a team. By the way, Laura when you showed favoritism to Putin’s Russia over Obama, you did shit far worse than these athletes ever did, you toady.

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electrotek  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:50:18pm

I’m a few days late on this but thought I’d share this yet again involving an Iranian with the usual self-loathing complex:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:53:20pm

re: #22 electrotek

I’m a few days late on this but thought I’d share this yet again involving an Iranian with the usual self-loathing complex:

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I don’t want to come off as too critical but his being of Iranian descent isn’t relevant. IT’s that he’s a dick who wants concentration camps. Me sharing German heritage with Trump or Irish with Bannon isn’t relevant to how much I loathe them.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:55:57pm
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electrotek  Sep 25, 2017 • 2:56:11pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I don’t want to come off as too critical but his being of Iranian descent isn’t relevant. IT’s that he’s a dick who wants concentration camps. Me sharing German heritage with Trump or Irish with Bannon isn’t relevant to how much I loathe them.

I normally would agree with you on this, but we can’t underestimate the rampant anti-Muslim hatred that permeates much of the Iranian diaspora. I mean, we are talking about a country who changed their name to foster closer ties with the Third Reich and unlike the Arab countries they actually had a Nazi party called Hezb-e-Sumka

Even the author Trita Parsi himself highlighted the issue of Iranians in Europe joining neo-Nazi organizations due to self-hatred and Islamophobia. Let’s not forget that the Munich shooter last summer was an Iranian kid who idolized Anders Breivik.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:01:20pm

re: #25 electrotek

I normally would agree with you on this, but we can’t underestimate the rampant anti-Muslim hatred that permeates much of the Iranian diaspora. I mean, we are talking about a country who changed their name to foster closer ties with the Third Reich and unlike the Arab countries they actually had a Nazi party called Hezb-e-Sumka

Even the author Trita Parsi himself highlighted the issue of Iranians in Europe joining neo-Nazi organizations due to self-hatred and Islamophobia. Let’s not forget that the Munich shooter last summer was an Iranian kid who idolized Anders Breivik.

Well I want to point out to you that my employer is an Iranian-American who is very much opposed to what’s going on with these racist assholes. I’m just saying. Let’s not do this. As for the Nazis, nearly every nationality had Nazi collaborators. My grandma’s parents home nation of Slovakia even was created as a Nazi puppet state since enough Slovaks wanted to collaborate. I’m not disagreeing with you that there are problems in the Iranian disaporatic community but there’s also a lot of great people, some of who I grew up with and as I said also my employer. If we’re going to object to Muslims being blamed like this, I have to defend Iranians the same way.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:02:18pm

re: #17 darthstar

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:02:43pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

TBH I disagreed with Obama’s choice to give her clemency. She should be thankful that he did that rather than bitching about that.

I would have been happy if she’d served 35 years. Now she’s a fuckin’ celebrity…to some seriously misguided people…wait until she shows up at a WH State Dinner as Scooch’s date.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:05:10pm

re: #28 darthstar

I would have been happy if she’d served 35 years. Now she’s a fuckin’ celebrity…to some seriously misguided people…wait until she shows up at a WH State Dinner as Scooch’s date.

We make celebs too easily these days it seems. I don’t know if she should have served the full sentence or not but I definitely think she’s protesting too much especially when there are many people who are actually innocent of what they were convicted of that still languish in prisons and never became a cause like she did.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:05:19pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

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This tweet confuses me on many levels.

Neither Calhoun nor Davis would wear a helmet on their velocipedes.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:05:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:06:12pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Neither Calhoun nor Davis would wear a helmet on their velocipedes.

Can’t imagine them thinking too highly of an organized run by a papist family from Down named Rooney either. //

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:06:54pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:07:00pm

If you haven’t, must read

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:09:14pm

Wow? Yeah…wow…I mean, WOW!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:09:20pm

Prelim CBO = Millions will lose coverage

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:09:21pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

If you haven’t, must read

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This is very good. I saw one idiot today suggest that Colin did what he did beacuse he was benched. Reid was and I still think is a starter and considered one of the better ones at that. If I had a Twitter, I’d give him a shout out. This was very good and everyone criticizing these guys should read it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:10:11pm

re: #35 darthstar

Wow? Yeah…wow…I mean, WOW!

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As usual Trumpers are in the minority.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:11:51pm

Collins is a no

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:11:53pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

TBH I disagreed with Obama’s choice to give her clemency. She should be thankful that he did that rather than bitching about that.

Canada is incredibly strict when it comes to letting people in with felony records. I realize her case may be slightly different since it was in a military court but this seriously should not have been a surprise.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:12:59pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

As usual Trumpers are in the minority.

We all know that, but they are an incredibly vocal (and annoying) minority.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:13:13pm

re: #40 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Canada is incredibly strict when it comes to letting people in with felony records. I realize her case may be slightly different since it was in a military court but this seriously should not have been a surprise.

Yeah they are.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:13:14pm

re: #35 darthstar

Wow? Yeah…wow…I mean, WOW!

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If only they would vote that way, we’d be alright.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:13:30pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Collins is a no

Great news. She didn’t take the bribe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:14:02pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We all know that, but they are an incredibly vocal (and annoying) minority.

Very true.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:14:48pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Great news. She didn’t take the bribe.

You’re thinking Murkowski, who still hasn’t said one way or the other, I think.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:15:22pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Collins is a no

So, that’s the ball game, right? Collins, Paul, and McCain? I assume Murkowski is probably also a no? And I heard rumblings that Cruz was leaning no… Part of me would love to see them not even get to 45 votes if the dam breaks.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:15:23pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Collins is a no

Ari Melber is reading a statement that he said takes a 2x4 to Trump Care. His panel is saying Mitch probably will not even bring the vote up.

YAY!

(Still holding off until we know this shit is dead)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:15:25pm

=re: #46 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re thinking Murkowski, who still hasn’t said one way or the other, I think.

I think there was one for Maine too, no? Hopefully Murkowski does the right thing here.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:15:26pm

re: #33 darthstar

Why doesn’t he ask Joe McKnight?

His shooting occurred around 3 p.m. at the intersection of Berman Highway and Holmes Boulevard. A witness, who asked not to be identified, said she saw two men in the intersection, with one yelling at the other who was trying to apologize. The man who was yelling then shot the other man multiple times, according to the witness.

The shooter shot McKnight, stood over him and said “I told you don’t you f—- with me,” the witness said, adding that the man then fired again.

nola.com

fucking assholes

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:15:57pm

re: #40 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Talking about Manning makes me wonder what happened to Snowden. He’s so quiet over there in Russia. I thought that with Trump’s election, he’d slide on back but I guess not. Perhaps he needs Assange to put in a good word for him with the Trumpkins.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:16:24pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

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I think there was one for Maine too, no? Hopefully Murkowski does the right thing here.

Yeah, I apparently failed to keep up with the bribing attempts this weekend.

Her statement mentions it:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:16:28pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Why doesn’t he ask Joe McKnight?

nola.com

fucking assholes

I had forgotten about that. Too many of these.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:16:57pm

re: #52 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, I apparently failed to keep up with the bribing attempts this weekend.

Her statement mentions it:

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All good. Was a crazy weekend.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:17:42pm

re: #46 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re thinking Murkowski, who still hasn’t said one way or the other, I think.

Klys…they tried to bribe Collins earlier today too. She wasn’t buying. Murkowski last asked said “nope” when asked is she supported it. I saw that vid clip on Saturday.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:18:19pm

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:18:37pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:19:03pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Klys…they tried to bribe Collins earlier today too. She wasn’t buying. Murkowski last asked said “nope” when asked is he supported it. I saw that vid clip on Saturday.

Murkowski still hasn’t officially stated one way or another. She has said “I will not be bought off” but that’s not the same thing as saying no.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:19:23pm

re: #57 JordanRules

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Wouldn’t Strange still be the Senator regardless of what happens or would he have to resign his seat the minute Moore would beat him?

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:20:29pm

re: #57 JordanRules

What does the primary in Alabama have to do with this vote? Alabama isn’t a factor in presidential elections (not that most of those Republicans opposed would be running for president).

Now that I think about it, “what does that have to do with the election in Alabama” might just replace “what does that have to do with the price of tea in China”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:20:47pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t Strange still be the Senator regardless of what happens or would he have to resign his seat the minute Moore would beat him?

This is “just” the AL GOP primary. The real election, vs. Dem Doug Jones, is in Dec.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:21:35pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t Strange still be the Senator regardless of what happens or would he have to resign his seat the minute Moore would beat him?

Strange would still be Senator, this is still a primary run off. The actual election isn’t until December.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:21:42pm

re: #60 KGxvi

What does the primary in Alabama have to do with this vote? Alabama isn’t a factor in presidential elections (not that most of those Republicans opposed would be running for president).

Now that I think about it, “what does that have to do with the election in Alabama” might just replace “what does that have to do with the price of tea in China”

McConnell’s collapse would reflect badly on his boy, Strange. Finish him off, actually.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:22:39pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

McConnell’s collapse would reflect badly on his boy, Strange. Finish him off, actually.

I can’t imagine McConnell would want to bring it to the floor if he can’t pass it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:22:43pm

re: #62 KGxvi

Strange would still be Senator, this is still a primary run off. The actual election isn’t until December.

Right so I guess what I mean is why wait for Alabama to vote?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:23:08pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

This is “just” the AL GOP primary. The real election, vs. Dem Doug Jones, is in Dec.

Gotcha.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:23:09pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I don’t think they are worried about anything immediate in the Senate but rather how it could effect the votes for that election wrt GOP dynamics.

Chris pontificates on this logic a bit.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:23:42pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Right so I guess what I mean is why wait for Alabama to vote?

It would be a shoo in for Ray(per the yam this morning) Moore to win the primary.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:23:52pm

re: #67 JordanRules

Yeah, I don’t think they are worried about anything immediate in the Senate but rather how it could effect the votes for that election wrt GOP dynamics.

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Chris pontificates on this logic a bit.

Oh that’s a good point there by Hayes. Hadn’t thought of that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:24:44pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

It would be a shoo in for Ray(per the yam this morning) Moore to win the primary.

Yeah wasn’t thinking. Man Moore in the Senate. That’s a a scary thought though I’m sure Strange’s voting recourd wouldn’t be that much different.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:25:04pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Murkowski still hasn’t officially stated one way or another. She has said “I will not be bought off” but that’s not the same thing as saying no.

Not official. But her rather curt “nope” was pretty telling. Considering her early stances, I think she will go no…especially now.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some other Republican Senators say after the fact they wouldn’t have voted for it either. Like my rock of a Senator Robby Portman.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:25:39pm

re: #67 JordanRules

Our local man on the street, Decatur Deb, gets there first!

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:25:41pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

McConnell’s collapse would reflect badly on his boy, Strange. Finish him off, actually.

Would it though? It’s not like Moore would have made the bill, um, more likely to pass. Hell, he seems the type that would go beyond Paul and Trump and demand dismantling Medicaid completely in order to get his vote.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:26:36pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

All good. Was a crazy weekend.

This weekend was exhausting and today is exhausting and I am so tired of people just being shit. (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)

Today’s run might also be contributing to the general exhaustion but really. I just can’t today.

I’m going to make pear crisp at some point. And apple strudel tomorrow. I’ve been inspired.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:26:37pm

re: #33 darthstar

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Should religious leaders also be thankful they aren’t shot in the head for exercising Constitutional rights? No? Just the black athletes? Now why would that be?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:26:58pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah wasn’t thinking. Man Moore in the Senate. That’s a a scary thought though I’m sure Strange’s voting recourd wouldn’t be that much different.

Rather have Moore in McConnell’s porridge. A lefty friend is voting for him on the chance that he is a slightly easier target for Jones (Open primary).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:28:17pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This weekend was exhausting and today is exhausting and I am so tired of people just being shit. (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)

Today’s run might also be contributing to the general exhaustion but really. I just can’t today.

I’m going to make pear crisp at some point. And apple strudel tomorrow. I’ve been inspired.

I hear ya. I’m disappointed with a lot of people I know. I did have an old high school friend ask if she could share my rant on the subject though and my aunt did as well and my cousin’s father in law, a British Air Force vet liked it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:28:20pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This weekend was exhausting and today is exhausting and I am so tired of people just being shit. (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)

Today’s run might also be contributing to the general exhaustion but really. I just can’t today.

I’m going to make pear crisp at some point. And apple strudel tomorrow. I’ve been inspired.

Have I told you how much I hate the Penguins? Now Super Sized.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:29:03pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Rather have Moore in McConnell’s porridge. A lefty friend is voting for him on the chance that he is a slightly easier target for Jones (Open primary).

Ah, the old piss in the pool trick! What can you tell us about Jones? Obviously better than Strange or Moore.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:29:18pm

re: #73 KGxvi

Would it though? It’s not like Moore would have made the bill, um, more likely to pass. Hell, he seems the type that would go beyond Paul and Trump and demand dismantling Medicaid completely in order to get his vote.

There’s a bit of Freeper Madness in these parts.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:29:58pm

re: #78 ObserverArt

Have I told you how much I hate the Penguins? Now Super Sized.

I mean, it’s not like I was a fan of theirs before. Ahem. But now they rank below the Kings and that’s REALLY saying something.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:30:13pm

The 3 against the bill are McCain Collins and Paul.
No way I trust Paul.
Wait till Murkowski comes out against it, to celebrate.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:30:20pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Murkowski still hasn’t officially stated one way or another. She has said “I will not be bought off” but that’s not the same thing as saying no.

are they still talking about keeping the aca in alaska and hawaii? if so then murkowski has no reason to vote for this bill, unless im misreading.

vote against and alaska and everyone else keeps health care status quo
vote for it and alaska keeps health care, everyone else loses it.

then the wrath of everyone comes down on her for 1) taking the bribe and 2) screwing everyone else in the process.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:31:03pm

re: #83 dangerman

are they still talking about keeping the aca in alaska and hawaii? if so then murkowski has no reason to vote for this bill, unless im misreading.

vote against and alaska and everyone else keeps health care status quo
vote for it and alaska keeps health care, everyone else loses it.

then the wrath of everyone comes down on her for 1) taking the bribe and 2) screwing everyone else in the process.

Who even knows anymore. Aren’t we on like version 4 or the bill or something? I’ve lost track.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:31:06pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

… (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)….

You’re talking to people who hit each other with sticks for a living.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:32:20pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

You’re talking to people who hit each other with sticks for a living.

Well. Technically they get penalties when they do that. It’s not the goal. (The goal is the big net thing at either end with the really stupid player who gets to stand in front of it and…)

My sport of choice is problematic in a lot of ways and I want it to be better. Kind of like my country. And sometimes both break your heart.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:32:48pm

re: #83 dangerman

are they still talking about keeping the aca in alaska and hawaii? if so then murkowski has no reason to vote for this bill, unless im misreading.

vote against and alaska and everyone else keeps health care status quo
vote for it and alaska keeps health care, everyone else loses it.

then the wrath of everyone comes down on her for 1) taking the bribe and 2) screwing everyone else in the process.

She’s also said that if the rest of the country loses the ACA the healthcare system will fail over time and it won’t help Alaska to have that happen.
I’d also think it would be silly to vote for everyone else to lose something that you support just because you get to keep it. Where’s the advantage for her?

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:32:56pm

Ari has a woman cancer survivor on that had a Tweet to Trump blocked. She just said she is holding out on whether to think this whole ACA repeal is over until it is over.

She said “it’s a lot like cancer, you think you have it licked and then it comes back.” I give her (Laura) props for coming on to his show just after finishing off another round of chemo. Damn strong woman, and so well, but softly spoken.

Edit to add. Her name is Laura Packard and her Senator is Dean Heller of Nevada. She is ripping him now too in her own soft voiced way.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:34:51pm

re: #87 calochortus

She’s also said that if the rest of the country loses the ACA the healthcare system will fail over time and it won’t help Alaska to have that happen.
I’d also think it would be silly to vote for everyone else to lose something that you support just because you get to keep it. Where’s the advantage for her?

I like to think she’s a decent person who’s capable of doing the right thing for all Americans. I imagine she’s not too fond of the direction her party’s gone since she did get primaried by cuckoo for cocoa puffs and Sarah Palin ally, Joe Miller.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:35:51pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This weekend was exhausting and today is exhausting and I am so tired of people just being shit. (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)

Today’s run might also be contributing to the general exhaustion but really. I just can’t today.

I’m going to make pear crisp at some point. And apple strudel tomorrow. I’ve been inspired.

Ah the Penguins, the one Pittsburgh Sportsball team I don’t have an interest in. I’m still wearing my Clemente shirt and Pirates hat to the Nats-Pirate game next week. Good way ot honoring Puerto Rico too because of Roberto.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:36:39pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Ah, the old piss in the pool trick! What can you tell us about Jones? Obviously better than Strange or Moore.

Jones is the real deal. Steelworker heritage, made it as a lawyer, put two of the Cahaba klansmen in jail for the 16th St church bombing (years after the case went cold). Also opened prosecution of Rudolph, the Birmingham abortion clinic bomber. Signed up to volunteer for him yesterday.

en.wikipedia.org

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Mike Lamb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:37:07pm

re: #82 VegasGolfer

The 3 against the bill are McCain Collins and Paul.
No way I trust Paul.
Wait till Murkowski comes out against it, to celebrate.

Until there are no regulations related to health care at all (probably up to and including repealing EMTALA) and max damage can be done, I think he’s as close to safe no as you can get…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:37:39pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Jones is the real deal. Steelworker heritage, made it as a lawyer, put two of the Cahaba klansmen in jail for the 16th St church bombing (years after the case went cold). Also opened prosecution of Rudolph, the Birmingham abortion clinic bomber. Signed up to volunteer for him yesterday.

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds like a good guy. We could use him in the Senate.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:37:55pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

I like to think she’s a decent person who’s capable of doing the right thing for all Americans. I imagine she’s not too fond of the direction her party’s gone since she did get primaried by cuckoo for cocoa puffs and Sarah Palin ally, Joe Miller.

As the guys on Pod Save mentioned last week, Murkowski lost a primary, then ran as a write in candidate in the general, and won… under rules that people voting for her not only had to write her name in, but write it in correctly. She owes not a damn thing to anyone in the GOP establishment at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:38:26pm

re: #94 KGxvi

As the guys on Pod Save mentioned last week, Murkowski lost a primary, then ran as a write in candidate in the general, and won… under rules that people voting for her not only had to write her name in, but write it in correctly. She owes not a damn thing to anyone in the GOP establishment at this point.

Yep.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:39:42pm

re: #84 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Who even knows anymore. Aren’t we on like version 4 or the bill or something? I’ve lost track.

this is the flip side of the thought that’s been running around:
rename obamacare to trumpcare or ivankacare or whatever. dont change a thing.
everyone will vote for it, it will pass, trump gets a victory and everyone’s happy. its all in the name

here it’s graham-cassidy-heller-johnson. the name is meaningless. but it’s on the fourth iteration. so is it still gchj and why does their names on it matter?

why do i even care?

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:40:02pm

re: #84 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Who even knows anymore. Aren’t we on like version 4 or the bill or something? I’ve lost track.

I think this Graham Cassidy bill is on at least version four itself. They dropped Heller from it (to maybe give him cover?) to get #2, they tuned it up for Murkowski bribe #3 and then they did a version for Collins #4.

They sure do not understand how stupid they look for all of this. Not that I care…

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:40:33pm
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nines09  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:40:41pm

Christ, if Hitler had Twitter and Facebook we would all be goose stepping, singing our national anthems with respect, or be shot. And be happy about it. Or shot. Or shot. Or happy not to be…..shot. In the head.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:41:20pm

re: #98 Ace-o-aces

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He’s a fucking idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:41:54pm

re: #99 nines09

Christ, if Hitler had Twitter and Facebook we would all be goose stepping, singing our national anthems with respect, or be shot. And be happy about it. Or shot. Or shot. Or happy not to be…..shot. In the head.

I can imagine the alt-right defending Hitler and the regular right insisting he was a leftist. Oh wait, they do that already.

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nines09  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:42:52pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

There’s that tricky “Socialist” word…..

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:43:47pm

re: #98 Ace-o-aces

These tweets seem slightly more interesting to me:

I’m guessing that the CNN report is correct. And I’m going to go ahead and place the over/under on a Kelly resignation at… 6.5 days (just in time for the Sunday shows).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:43:58pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This weekend was exhausting and today is exhausting and I am so tired of people just being shit. (HI THERE PENGUINS I’M LOOKING AT YOU FUCKERS IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW BUT THE REST OF THE NHL ISN’T OFF THE HOOK EITHER.)

Today’s run might also be contributing to the general exhaustion but really. I just can’t today.

I’m going to make pear crisp at some point. And apple strudel tomorrow. I’ve been inspired.

The Penguins? What did I miss? I don’t follow sportspuck so I’m a bit confused. Well, more confused than usual.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:44:46pm

re: #98 Ace-o-aces

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But, but his babysitter agrees with him, so there!!

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Mike Lamb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:44:48pm

re: #98 Ace-o-aces

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Such a backlash! Those stadiums were empty…no one went to sports bars to watch the games…it’s a wonder they didn’t go bankrupt.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:45:11pm

re: #103 KGxvi

These tweets seem slightly more interesting to me:

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I’m guessing that the CNN report is correct. And I’m going to go ahead and place the over/under on a Kelly resignation at… 6.5 days (just in time for the Sunday shows).

Good grief, he’s mad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:45:23pm

re: #104 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Penguins? What did I miss? I don’t follow sportspuck so I’m a bit confused. Well, more confused than usual.

They’re visiting the Yam.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:46:05pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They’re visiting the Yam.

Oh, that’s right, I dimly remember that from another thread.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:46:25pm

re: #105 BeachDem

But, but his babysitter agrees with him, so there!!

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Kneeling during the anthem—such disrespect! But those blacks getting killed by cops? That’s just #MAGA bitches!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:46:30pm

re: #106 Mike Lamb

Such a backlash! Those stadiums were empty…no one went to sports bars to watch the games…it’s a wonder they didn’t go bankrupt.

What I get a kick out of is “They insulted their fans.” Stop speaking for me. I didn’t feel insulted one bit by the kneeling. Why? Because I’m not a wingnut snowflake who gets offended over everything while at the same time insisting the left is filled with over sensitive people.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:46:33pm

Heh. Ari Melber is ripping on the NY Times.

He is showing a headline on the front page from March 2015 about Hillary using a private server as first reported.

He then points out that today the tiny bit on Jared and Ivanka in the Times having used personal email for government is on page 18.

He then mentions Maggie Haberman as the byline in today’s article.

I get the feeling Ari is not a big fan of Maggie and the Times.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:47:11pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

As usual Trumpers are in the minority.

That’s why they want special treatment.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:47:19pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Good grief, he’s mad.

I like how he puts John Kelly’s name in parenthesis, like he doesn’t actually know the guy’s name and just had to check the company flow chart to see who it was.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:47:24pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They’re visiting the Yam.

Which they announced yesterday.

And then the team captain made sure that we all know “what a great honor” it is for them to have gotten the invitation.

Tone deaf, hockey is very, very good at.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:47:39pm

re: #114 KGxvi

I like how he puts John Kelly’s name in parenthesis, like he doesn’t actually know the guy’s name and just had to check the company flow chart to see who it was.

Hahaha yeah good observation.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:48:02pm

re: #105 BeachDem

But, but his babysitter agrees with him, so there!!

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“I told you not to mention me in your Tweets.” —Gen Kelly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:48:07pm

re: #103 KGxvi

These tweets seem slightly more interesting to me:

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I’m guessing that the CNN report is correct. And I’m going to go ahead and place the over/under on a Kelly resignation at… 6.5 days (just in time for the Sunday shows).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:48:14pm

re: #115 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Which they announced yesterday.

And then the team captain made sure that we all know “what a great honor” it is for them to have gotten the invitation.

Tone deaf, hockey is very, very good at.

Very much so.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:48:29pm

re: #104 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Penguins? What did I miss? I don’t follow sportspuck so I’m a bit confused. Well, more confused than usual.

sportspuck. you know. lotsa non-white, american players

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:50:03pm

Kneeling during the national anthem doesn’t offend me one bit. Acting like we should just ignore police misconduct OTOH.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:50:59pm

Back to work on curtains for a couple windows. Weaving them was easy (if time consuming) but getting the pleats the right size and properly spaces is a pain in the ass.
BBL

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:51:05pm

re: #120 dangerman

sportspuck. you know. lotsa non-white, american players

Someone tweeted that their roster is over 50% foreigners.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:51:24pm

re: #122 calochortus

Back to work on curtains for a couple windows. Weaving them was easy (if time consuming) but getting the pleats the right size and properly spaces is a pain in the ass.
BBL

Photos!

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:51:50pm

re: #124 Stanley Sea

Photos!

When they’re done.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:53:17pm
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petesh  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:54:10pm

My cousin just published a piece on the aftermath to Irma, in the eye of which they were, as it passed over Brooksville. They and the house were fine, but the secondary problem was devastating: a massive rainstorm on Sept 15 dumped so much that the Withlacoochie river overflowed. Isolation for a week, and still no power. They’re OK but it’s a reminder (surely relevant to PR) that it’s never over until long after its over. This was posted using someone else’s portable generator:
huffingtonpost.com

Warning: includes poetry

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:55:27pm
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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 3:55:41pm

Okay, this made me laugh…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:02:32pm

LOLWUT

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:04:15pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Sewing, Trim, Embroidery, Mascara

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fern01  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:04:17pm

re: #35 darthstar

Wow? Yeah…wow…I mean, WOW!

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If this poll is valid how did the US get tRump as President?

Guess it was ……… those emails

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:08:20pm

Why was this story run so hard by Fox in the first place - that Iran tested a missile, and there was no other corroboration? Who fed Fox that info?

I’m guessing that it’s the Gorka/Gaffney Islamophobes who are trying anything and everything to derail the Iran nuclear deal. They think that Iran can’t be trusted, so they’ve decided to fake an Iranian missile launch as pretext to claiming Iran violated the deal - except that it wouldn’t be proof of violating the deal and all the evidence shows the opposite to be true.

Trump bought it hook, line, and stinker precisely because he believes anything and everything his fellow travelers are pushing his way.

He wont trust the intel community. He prefers InfoWars and the right wing echo chamber to facts. That’s been his way - always.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:08:48pm

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:08:59pm

re: #132 fern01

If this poll is valid how did the US get tRump as President?

Guess it was ……… those emails

Racism & misogyny & not caring about the details till - OOPS! That’s MY healthcare he’s fucking over!!!!

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:09:25pm

re: #132 fern01

But her emails.
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:13:19pm

BUTTERY MAILS

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:13:47pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

BUTTERY MAILS

Those would be Jared Kushner’s.///

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SteelPH  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:14:37pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

BUTTERY MAILS

RICH, FLAVORFUL BUTTER CREAMAILS

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:15:08pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Buttery Males
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fern01  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:17:07pm

re: #103 KGxvi

These tweets seem slightly more interesting to me:

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I’m guessing that the CNN report is correct. And I’m going to go ahead and place the over/under on a Kelly resignation at… 6.5 days (just in time for the Sunday shows).

Friday night news drop

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:19:29pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Collins is a no

For now. Keep making those calls!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:23:22pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Sewing, Trim, Embroidery, Mascara

“Thank you all for inviting me to talk about STEM. I will show you how to cut your roses so that they look pretty in any vase!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:24:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:24:44pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

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Maybe Ecuador will take her…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:27:43pm

The recent piece by Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone has kinda gotten under my skin. It’s a long discourse on how Trump is certifiably nutso: rollingstone.com

It’s an agonizing parody of late-stage Lenny Bruce. The great Sixties comedian’s act degenerated into tendentious soliloquies about his legal situation (he had been charged with obscenity). Bruce too stood onstage in his last years for interminable periods, court papers in hand, quoting himself to audiences bored to insanity by the spectacle.

This is exactly Trump. Even his followers are starting to look sideways at one another. In a sight rarely seen last year, a trickle of supporters heads for the exits. Then Trump cracks.

I’m just not feeling it. This feels … inadequate.

Burn them. Burn them all.

Yes, the Yam is not what anyone would call normal. But I think the far more trenchant diagnosis is the one from earlier today - that Trump is systematically depriving us of any sense of normalcy and safety.

That he is actively malignant. Not just in thrall to the accumulation of aluminum in his synapses, but truly actively evil, dedicating himself to hurting people and enjoying it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:27:50pm

re: #46 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re thinking Murkowski, who still hasn’t said one way or the other, I think.

No, they tried to bribe Collins as well.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:28:52pm

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

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She’s a scientologist, so whatevs.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:29:35pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:30:49pm

Meanwhile, Taibbi’s latest schadenfreude-fest is that the race in Alabama is a double-headed dildo that is rodgering both Trump and establishment Republicans:

This is a monstrous comeuppance for Trump. He gate-crashed the Oval Office by stirring up race-hatred and anti-immigrant sentiment and promising to lay waste to the perfumed boyars in the Republican political establishment.

Now that he’s in Washington and potentially dependent upon those same Republicans to survive his term - he could need the McConnells and Ryans of the world to weather an impeachment effort, for instance - he seems tempted to throw in with those same hacks to save his skin.

What a glorious disaster this is, all the way around. McConnell and company disgrace themselves totally by clinging to Trump’s ankles. Trump betrays his own constituents and may soon represent the same “swamp” he campaigned against. If the world is just, they will roast together for all eternity in the same boiling hell-cauldron.

The more they fight each other, the less energy they have to screw with the rest of us, I guess. Although what hellspawn emerges from this fight may be stronger and even more evil…

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ipsos  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:31:19pm

You know, I think it’s too low even for them, but:

As I get ready for Yom Kippur, it hasn’t escaped my attention that it falls this year on Friday night, the 30th….which is also the deadline for passing Cassidy-Graham through reconciliation.

Nor has it escaped my attention that there’s not one Jewish Republican in Congress since Eric Cantor was ousted.

The GOP wouldn’t be so low as to sneak in a vote Friday night while Schumer is in shul.

They wouldn’t.

Would they?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:31:24pm

re: #138 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Those would be Jared Kushner’s.///

No. His would be I can’t believe it’s not butter, emails.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:33:06pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Edited for typos. Reload.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

re: #151 ipsos

You know, I think it’s too low even for them, but:

As I get ready for Yom Kippur, it hasn’t escaped my attention that it falls this year on Friday night, the 30th….which is also the deadline for passing Cassidy-Graham through reconciliation.

Nor has it escaped my attention that there’s not one Jewish Republican in Congress since Eric Cantor was ousted.

The GOP wouldn’t be so low as to sneak in a vote Friday night while Schumer is in shul.

They wouldn’t.

Would they?

I think there’s one.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:40:20pm

re: #146 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Any attention is good attention and when he hurts people, he gets LOTS of it. All the good fascists have a strong stream of sadism flowing through them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:40:23pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Right so I guess what I mean is why wait for Alabama to vote?

Because the Orange Menace has no clue as to how government works, much less elections.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:42:34pm

It’s weird that people think Canada would try to re-litigate or give a pass to such a criminal conviction by the US Courts to see if Canada itself was harmed.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:45:11pm

re: #156 plansbandc

Any attention is good attention and when he hurts people, he gets LOTS of it. All the good fascists have a strong stream of sadism flowing through them.

Sadism and cowardice.

Anyone who’s been bullied by greasy-haired burnouts in high school recognizes the type. Brave only in groups. Cringing and silent when confronted in equal numbers. Secretly terrified inside that they will be abandoned, because way early in their lives, their drunken parents kicked the shit out of them when they were alone, while calling them variations on “stupid loser.”

Oh yeah. And Trump is one of them.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:48:32pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

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It’s weird that people think Canada would try to re-litigate or give a pass to such a criminal conviction by the US Courts to see if Canada itself was harmed.

My cousin has to jump through all sorts of hoops just to visit the US from Canada because of a 1972 marijuana possession conviction. It’s tough to cross the border either way with criminal history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:48:56pm

JFC WTFITS

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petesh  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:50:37pm

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

JFC WTFITS

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I don’t have no four fathers, I just got one. /s

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:50:55pm

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

JFC WTFITS

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Black supremacy? Lol okay snowflake.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:51:33pm

re: #162 petesh

Refresh the comment, I posted the wrong tweet. LoveMyLife is nutzoid.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:52:56pm

LOL, so now the wingnuts will have to wait for the jerseys they bought today to show up before they burn them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:53:02pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Black supremacy? Lol okay snowflake.

When you’re used to white supremacy, any reduction in that feels like somebody else’s supremacy.

That, and this person is clearly an idiot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:53:46pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

When you’re used to white supremacy, any reduction in that feels like somebody else’s supremacy.

That, and this person is clearly an idiot.

It’s like calling a “budget cut” when it’s actually that the budget went up by less than it did previously.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:53:58pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

When you’re used to white supremacy, any reduction in that feels like somebody else’s supremacy.

That, and this person is clearly an idiot.

I know.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:56:07pm

Doing one heckuva job there Trump. All these failures are yours. Own it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:57:12pm

re: #167 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s like calling a “budget cut” when it’s actually that the budget went up by less than it did previously.

If a program is budgeted the first year at X dollars, which buys Y stuff, and next year Y stuff costs (X x 1.05), and you’re only budgeted (X x 1.01), you can’t buy Y stuff, can you?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2017 • 4:58:37pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

If a program is budgeted the first year at X dollars, which buys Y stuff, and next year Y stuff costs (X x 1.05), and you’re only budgeted (X x 1.01), you can’t by Y stuff, can you?

True, but it’s still not technically a budget “cut”. You have more money than you did previously, even though your spending power is less.

/pedant mode off

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:01:06pm

re: #169 lawhawk

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Doing one heckuva job there Trump. All these failures are yours. Own it.

It is worse. Bush’s was mere incompetence. Trump’s heartlessness caused by him being an ill tempered idiot.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:01:07pm

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

JFC WTFITS

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:02:03pm

re: #171 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

True, but it’s still not technically a budget “cut”. You have more money than you did previously, even though your spending power is less.

/pedant mode off

Spending power is what counts, plus if what you’re allocated is less than what had been promised/expected/planned, that’s a cut.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:03:07pm
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sagehen  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:04:27pm

re: #169 lawhawk

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Doing one heckuva job there Trump. All these failures are yours. Own it.

In 1960, Nixon got 30% of the black vote. Since Goldwater, R’s have never pulled more than 10%.

In 2000, Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote. Starting in 2020, R’s will never pull more than 10%.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:05:07pm

re: #169 lawhawk

Maria response makes Katrina’s response look like a stroke of genius.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:05:28pm

re: #176 sagehen

Hence the need the GOP has to suppress voter turnout.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:06:12pm

re: #177 GlutenFreeJesus

Maria response makes Katrina’s response look like a stroke of genius.

Lin-Manuel Miranda has already done more for Puerto Rico this week than has the US Govt.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:06:35pm

Good thread laying out some of the differences between the NBA and NFL.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:14:35pm

Lock THEM up?

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:15:06pm

re: #120 dangerman

sportspuck. you know. lotsa non-white, american players

Funny thing. One of the best and most liked young players on the Columbus Blue jackets is Seth Jones son of former NBA basketball player “Popeye” Jones. And yes he is Black and he is a star NHL Hockey defender.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:15:19pm

re: #98 Ace-o-aces

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Only ones backlashing against the NFL are Trump and his toadies.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:16:11pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:16:52pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

Lock THEM up?

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ipsos  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:17:58pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I looked it up. None in the Senate… but nine senators who are Jewish and who are Democrats or are Bernie. (Schumer, Cardin, Schatz, Feinstein, Bennet, Blumenthal, Franken, Wyden and Sanders.)

I don’t know how many of those nine are sufficiently observant that they’d refuse to go to the floor to vote on Friday night if it came to that.

If there were five, let’s say, and 3 GOP defections, could the GOP pull out a 48-47 yes vote? And would that pass it, or do they still need 50 total yes votes?

I do not trust McConnell not to pull something slimy like a vote on Yom Kippur. I just don’t.

(And having said that… Were I a senator, I’d go to the floor and vote even if it meant missing Kol Nidre. Saving lives is the highest commandment there is, and a vote to save ACA would save millions of lives.)

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:18:00pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

BUTTERY MAILS

Yes. And she just happens to be on Chris Hayes right now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:18:40pm

Let’s not mince words: Trumps inaction in Puerto Rico will get people killed.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:19:20pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:20:59pm

re: #169 lawhawk

Doing one heckuva job there Trump. All these failures are yours. Own it.

Have you seen this Sep 23rd Politico piece, though?

Aid begins to flow to hurricane-hit Puerto Rico

Large amounts of federal aid began moving into Puerto Rico on Saturday, welcomed by local officials who praised the Trump administration’s response but called for the emergency loosening of rules long blamed for condemning the U.S. territory to second-class status.

Rossello and other officials praised the federal government for planning its response in detail before the storm hit, a contrast with what Puerto Rico has long seen as the neglect of 3.4 million Americans living in a territory without a vote in Congress or the electoral college.

“This is the first time we get this type of federal coordination,” said Resident Commission Jenniffer Gonzalez, Puerto Rico’s non-voting representative in Washington.

It’s…positively glowing compared to what else has been said. So what’s the actual reality on the ground?

I’m also thinking of that poll showing 53% of people approved of trump’s handling of Harvey and Irma. I suspect that’s simply because they’re using the Katrina death toll as a yardstick, so…just about anyone’s bound to come out looking good in comparison.

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Dragonomics  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:21:21pm

In those tweets about the NFL Trump called the country “GREAT,” and in all caps no less. So… MAGA accomplished then? Can he quit now?

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:21:46pm

re: #165 b.d. (bill d.)

LOL, so now the wingnuts will have to wait for the jerseys they bought today to show up before they burn them.

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My father was just holding up Villanueva earlier as an example of how “vets” have such a respect for the flag. He left this afternoon for a business trip, so I don’t feel right about calling or texting him to needle over this now.

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EPR-radar  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:22:32pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s not mince words: Trumps inaction in Puerto Rico will get people killed.

tr*mp’s base will love him for it. Elected Republican officials will split between loving the unnecessary death in Puerto Rico and not doing what’s in their power to help the situation.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:22:53pm

re: #179 sagehen

Lin-Manuel Miranda has already done more for Puerto Rico this week than has the US Govt.

Wait! He’s is not in the government?

Damn.

He seems to know so much more about it than our President and a lot of Congress.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:24:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:26:26pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:26:42pm

re: #185 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Jeff Furlington @FurlingtonJeff
This would really upset the radicalized right, if they weren’t all hypocrites and lawless scoundrels.
8:16 PM - Sep 25, 2017

Throw them all in jail.

Fill up those jails the conservatives have built. Maybe we can use some of Obama’s FEMA houses and containers and have internment camps.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:26:52pm

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

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Why don’t they just admit they don’t have any rules and they will only do something when the embarrassment starts to hurt the bottom line?

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austin_blue  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:27:38pm

re: #169 lawhawk

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Doing one heckuva job there Trump Orangie. All these failures are yours. Own it.

Better?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:28:27pm

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Not gonna name it, but it did eject Weeve.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:29:35pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

Lock THEM up?

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And major issue…if a Democrat were in office. Meanwhile Republicans spent years during the 00s using private email accounts or party servers to discuss government matters…then mysteriously “lost” all those emails as soon as investigators came sniffing around.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:29:47pm
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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:30:52pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

Pretty much the extent of race relations in this country.

Perhaps Trump would like a copy of this version.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:31:19pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only ones backlashing against the NFL are Trump and his toadies.

No, sadly. A lot of moderates and liberals can’t get past the idea of a protest during the National Anthem.

And more sadly, their gripes begin to take on a distinctly racist tone - ‘ingrates’, ‘overpaid egotistical clowns’, etc.

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petesh  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:31:25pm

re: #164 The Vicious Babushka

Refresh the comment, I posted the wrong tweet. LoveMyLife is nutzoid.

JFC WTFITS indeed!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:31:28pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:31:47pm

Dang. Clinton seems relaxed and at ease with it all. And snappy with her answers.

It appears All in with Chris Hayes is All in With Hillary all show long. Pretty good stuff.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:33:20pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

Where to start with this mendacity and criminality? Oh yeah. With Trump himself.

His entire scheme was predicated on Hillary’s emails. Never mind that the rules were changed after Clinton left government service to prevent usage of private emails for official govt business. We got Jared using a private email server to conduct official business, and now there’s a bunch of others who were using gmail or other private email accounts for government business.

Those are firing offenses, but this is Trump, which means we’ll be treated to a media yawn and move on to the next thing (or Trump signals the refs back to the NFL to attack black people protesting against police brutality).

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:33:30pm

LOL

You know he made sure a camera was right there though.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:33:42pm
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Renaissance_Man  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:34:07pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

Well, the lack of media attention is precisely why Puerto Rico is being ignored by the president.

Trump responds to what he knows. He only knows what he sees on FOX and Friends and other FOX shows. Since they are talking about kneeling football players in between pushing fake stories about Iranian missiles, that’s what he’s reacting to.

The control of this nation is currently being fought over between John Kelly and FOX. Kelly is trying to reduce Trump’s TV time, while FOX knows that whatever random crap it says will be acted on by the president if he sees it. Of all the horror in the news this week, the one that scares me the most is FOX’s fake Iranian missile story, because it demonstrates clearly that the United States can be driven to react to something imaginary, just because one cult media source makes something up.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:34:21pm

re: #209 JordanRules

LOL

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You know he made sure a camera was right there though.

I’m glad he did it.

Even though he’s a dick.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:34:30pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

She was very good with her Terry Gross interview too.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:35:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:37:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:38:27pm

re: #211 Renaissance_Man

Well, the lack of media attention is precisely why Puerto Rico is being ignored by the president.

Trump responds to what he knows. He only knows what he sees on FOX and Friends and other FOX shows. Since they are talking about kneeling football players in between pushing fake stories about Iranian missiles, that’s what he’s reacting to.

The control of this nation is currently being fought over between John Kelly and FOX. Kelly is trying to reduce Trump’s TV time, while FOX knows that whatever random crap it says will be acted on by the president if he sees it. Of all the horror in the news this week, the one that scares me the most is FOX’s fake Iranian missile story, because it demonstrates clearly that the United States can be driven to react to something imaginary, just because one cult media source makes something up.

Absolutely.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:38:36pm

re: #212 Stanley Sea

It means nothing to me like most (not all) of the owners and officials responses. Empty gestures, but I didn’t expect much more. Kaep still doesn’t have a job.
But hopefully it will piss the Yam off something serious. Jerry and the Yam having ego battles would be hilarious.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:41:14pm

I just remembered. Is CNN still doing their Healthcare Legislation Townhall thing tonight?

I don’t watch CNN, but I might have to check to see if good ol’ Lindsey Graham actually shows up. And if he does, how far out of whack he is going to be seeing how well his bill is going over today.

Edit to add: looks like it is still on.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:43:11pm

re: #218 ObserverArt

I just remembered. Is CNN still doing their Healthcare Legislation Townhall thing tonight?

I don’t watch CNN, but I might have to check to see if good ol’ Lindsey Graham actually shows up. And if he does, how far out of whack he is going to be seeing how well his bill is going over today.

Edit to add: looks like it is still on.

“LIES! ALL LIES! MY BILL WILL SAVE US FROM SOCIALISM!!!!!”

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nines09  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:43:41pm

re: #209 JordanRules

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:45:09pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Add-on. The conflation of sports and warfare is going hand-in-hand with crafting a very particular version of masculinity that is performatively violent and dominant. By which I mean, it’s not enough to simply be capable of violence when the situation arises, or to command when necessary, but the belief that those behaviors are the best and most natural option. With both soldiers and football players—when they act vulnerable or concede weakness, they tend to get tremendous pushback, because their “value” comes from their being abstractions. Their endurance of suffering and their power to harm is supposed to be all there is to them.

These people using these kinds of rhetorical devices don’t like actual people, they like imaginary people that serve their purposes in the moment.

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petesh  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:46:20pm

Mentioned above, but do please go watch or read Popovich on politics and racism and Trump and … good for him!
sbnation.com

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:47:21pm

About the AL SEN primary.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:48:01pm

He finally tweets about Puerto Rico…
And he trolls them about debt

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:48:48pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

He finally tweets about Puerto Rico…
And he trolls them about debt

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Fucking dickhead.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:48:52pm

re: #223 JordanRules

About the AL SEN primary.

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:49:02pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

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Marc Anthony, Jennifer Lopez and Alex Rodriguez were instrumental in getting New York to step up with aid for Puerto Rico.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:50:04pm

re: #226 Stanley Sea

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Hahaha greatest thinker.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:50:26pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

He finally tweets about Puerto Rico…
And he trolls them about debt

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Translation: “Damnit, Puerto Rico is taking attention away from my rants about black NFL players!”

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:50:32pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

What a fucking asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:52:29pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:52:45pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

He finally tweets about Puerto Rico…
And he trolls them about debt

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Texas and Florida are doing great?

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:53:53pm

re: #232 b.d. (bill d.)

Texas and Florida are doing great?

Donny doesn’t seem to recognize the passage of time anymore.

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fern01  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:54:28pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

He finally tweets about Puerto Rico…
And he trolls them about debt

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Everything he touches turns to dust. 63million voted for this - deplorables is the polite description.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:55:37pm
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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:55:40pm

re: #146 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s an agonizing parody of late-stage Lenny Bruce. The great Sixties comedian’s act degenerated into tendentious soliloquies about his legal situation (he had been charged with obscenity). Bruce too stood onstage in his last years for interminable periods, court papers in hand, quoting himself to audiences bored to insanity by the spectacle.

I made that Lenny Bruce comparison a couple of weeks ago.

You out there, Taibbi? :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:56:25pm

President Kick-them-when-they’re-down.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:57:27pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:58:43pm

Hello Red Cross? Please cancel my donation, Trump says that Florida and Texas are doing great.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:59:17pm

It’s taking him several minutes to read the statement given to him by Kelly and retype it into his phone

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 5:59:33pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

It’s taking him several minutes to read the statement given to him by Kelly and retype it into his phone

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:00:05pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:01:00pm
As a lifelong football fan, it pains me to say that the time has come to boycott the NFL. They have gone too far this time. I was fine when they covered up the concussion epidemic, but letting black men express their opinions is totally unacceptable.

I can no longer spend my Sundays watching football in good conscience, knowing that players are allowed to protest during the National Anthem. Suppressing studies about how football causes the disturbing neurodegenerative disease CTE is one thing; watching black players kneel on the turf for two minutes without having to face consequences for expressing their views is a whole new ballgame.

Why get upset that the owners didn’t provide treatment for former players suffering from the long-term effects of playing football? We should be grateful: Thanks to the league-wide conspiracy of whitewashing the relationship between football and brain damage, we were able to see more awesome, skull-crushing hits. Athletes shouldn’t use their brains anyway, they should stick to sports and leave protesting to the professional protestors.

I won’t watch another game until they punish players for quietly kneeling during “The Star Spangled Banner.” When I pay to see a game, I’m paying to watch black men destroy each other’s bodies, not exercise their constitutional freedoms. If only there were some way for black athletes to protest that didn’t shove the fact that they have the same rights as any other American in my face.

The NFL’s denial of the fact that players are in serious danger never bothered me, and I care so little about how they continue to avoid punishing domestic abusers and sexual assaulters that I didn’t even mention it until now. But if the League permits black people to voice their opinions, what’s next? Treating all black people equally? Paying college players for their labor in the fields?

And if you don’t agree with my opinion, too bad. Brave and courageous soldiers died for my right to free speech!

mcsweeneys.net

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:01:56pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

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Seems like a time when the President might prevail on his banker buddies to do PR a solid by either forgiving the loans, or renegotiating.

Oh! I forgot! No US bankers will deal with him, so he doesn’t really have any ‘banker buddies’ outside of the Russian Federation, and Deutschebank.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:02:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:02:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:03:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:03:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:04:06pm

Man he’s such a fuckwit.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:04:53pm

I thought Twitler loved debt. Huh.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:05:21pm

Every time that wish that Trump say something I end up regretting it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:05:40pm
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fern01  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:05:58pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

It’s taking him several minutes to read the statement given to him by Kelly and retype it into his phone

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When will he get round to the part where they are AMERICAN and it is his role to do the repairs?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:06:21pm

Maybe Putin will help PR out of their debt problem like he did with a certain orange obnoxious yankee.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:06:32pm

So the crowd booed the cowboys BEFORE the anthem. That tells you everything you need to know about all this. Steph Curry had it right saying we all have an idea why trump and his lemmings are outraged at him and kap.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:06:59pm

It’s always about money to him. Always.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:08:18pm

Thanks, but I’ll pass

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:09:00pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:09:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:09:24pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart

Thanks, but I’ll pass

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Jesus Christ - Cassidy doesn’t even know what’s in the bill with HIS NAME ON IT.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:10:09pm

There’s the racist angle again. Can’t you just see the “fucking moochers“‘subtext of that tweet?

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:10:59pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Clear as day from my seat.

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fern01  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:11:13pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart

Thanks, but I’ll pass

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Nothing like looking at the myth of single payer while many can’t even afford to visit a doctor. Bernie the non democrat has so many similarities to the liar in chief

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:11:59pm
Well, there’s another effort to repeal Obamacare, and once again there are a handful of fringe groups speaking out against the new bill, like the American Medical Association, the National Council for Behavioral Health, the American Cancer Society Action Network, the American Diabetes Association, the American Heart Association, the American Lung Association, the Arthritis Foundation, the National Health Council, the March of Dimes, the American Hospital Association, AARP, the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, and America’s Health Insurance Plans.

But Americans know that we can’t trust people like doctors and insurers to tell us about our health and our insurance. It’s time for other industry groups to take a stand. That’s why the coffin industry is proud to support the new health care bill.

Whenever we evaluate a piece of legislation, the coffin industry asks two questions. One: Will it help Americans? And two: Will it help coffins? I think the answer, in the case of this bill, is clear. Let’s put it this way: There are millions of Americans without work. But each new coffin requires the labor of five employees to cut the wood, assemble the wood, insert cushions, polish everything, and test the coffin’s durability by dropping it from six-foot ledges. That’s not even counting all of the other professions in dozens of coffin-related industries, from the truck drivers who transport the coffins to your Main Street funeral parlor to the security guards who have to fight off people who think they are vampires and try to steal the coffins. If Congress passes the new health care bill, there will be a boom in demand for all of these jobs, and America’s unemployment problems will be solved. The economy will become as shiny and sturdy as a new oak coffin.

If you still aren’t sure what to think about the new health care plan, just picture two things: millions of new coffins, and the legislators supporting the plan. Associate those two things forever in your brain. And then try telling me that you’re still not sure where you stand.

Now, you may be asking yourself, “Why should I trust the coffin industry? What has Big Coffin ever done for me?” To that I can only point to our decades — no, centuries — of experience working with people in dire need of health care. Coffins and sick people have been connected since long before insurance companies, or doctors, or the March of Dimes, or dimes. So I’m pretty confident that we know a thing or two about how to keep Americans’ bodies healthy-looking and well preserved!

At least for a few days.

But imagine a new America, built on a coffin empire! A coffin in every home! Crowds of people, marching off to the coffin factory in the morning, and coming home to their own house on Coffin Drive at night. Sports teams sponsored by coffins. A coffin company buying NBC. All of these are within our reach, if our representatives just vote for the new health care bill. Only with concerted public pressure will your representatives listen to you and make the right choice. So call your senator and tell them that you want to see more coffins! Coffins everywhere! And don’t mention the urn industry. They’re against the bill.

mcsweeneys.net

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:12:30pm

Donny could suggest Congress allow PR to have its debts forgiven, but then his buddies on Wall St would lose money. And that would be the real tragedy.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:14:34pm

re: #263 fern01

The best I can say about Bernie is that he’s a decent cheerleader for some good policies.

The bad parts are his ego, poor sense of timing, and inability to hammer out anything workable or specific for said policies.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:15:42pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:16:20pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
The president of the US is, not to put too fine a point on it, a self-obsessed malignant narcissist. Oh, and a racist too.
8:55 PM - Sep 25, 2017
Replies 14 14 Retweets 36 36 likes

And an asshole. Never forget. Our President is an ASSHOLE.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:18:25pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

Sorry to reply so late. But Canada won’t let you in at all for a 10 year period if you are a citizen of the US and get any driving infraction due to alcohol under the influence of any drug.

An email leak that compromises security, I feel, is alittle not higher on the illegal scale of law.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:18:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:25:28pm

re: #264 gocart mozart

mcsweeneys.net

Who needs coffins? Just dump the bodies into plague pits!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:26:03pm

re: #223 JordanRules

About the AL SEN primary.
Farage says the election tomorrow is important for “the whole global movement”

We don’t take to that Farage fellow. Sounds too much like one of them NPR guys.

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:47:32pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

At a time like this you’re going to attack Puerto Rico for their DEBTS TO WALL STREET?! WTF is wrong with you?

Ten bucks says he saw someone on Fox talking about it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2017 • 6:52:20pm

re: #273 makeitstop

Ten bucks says he saw someone on Fox talking about it.

Of course. The only idea that originates in his mind is the pussy-grabbing. The rest is running with other people’s bad ideas.

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2017 • 7:02:00pm

re: #268 ObserverArt

And an asshole. Never forget. Our President is an ASSHOLE.

Through and through.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 25, 2017 • 7:04:10pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson


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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official) Watch the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi and see it in theaters December 15. Get your tickets now: fandango.com Visit Star Wars at starwars.comSubscribe to Star Wars on YouTube at youtube.comLike Star Wars on Facebook at ...
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Brazil Branches of US-Based Church Target of Numerous Probes Church Based human trafficking and forced labor -- it's just religious freedom in action.../// When workers made a mistake, such as cutting a frame too short, she says they were screamed at and sometimes even hit to expunge the ...
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Missouri Woman Claims Religious Rights Violated by Abortion Law Those religious freedom laws conservatives are pressing through where ever they can might give fundamentalist xtians more grief than they bargained for. The law compels women to wait 72 hours between their initial visit and the procedure, view an ...
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Lawmakers Call for ‘Stealthing’ to Be Classified as Rape U.S. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Ro Khanna (D-CA) announced on Wednesday that they would push lawmakers to have "stealthing," or nonconsensual condom removal, classified as rape. In a letter sent to the House Judiciary Committee, Maloney and Khanna ...
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Should Animal Abusers Be Registered Like Sex Offenders? It is important to remember that those who abuse animals also tend to abuse children. One of the objectives of the criminal justice system is to protect the innocent and discourage would-be perpetrators from harming them. Whether it does ...
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