New From Olbermann! We Have Indictments. What Can We Expect Next?
And why the news about Papadopolous might be bigger than Manafort.
And why the news about Papadopolous might be bigger than Manafort.
TONIGHT: WH Chief of Staff John Kelly speaks exclusively on the premiere of “The @IngrahamAngle.” Tune in at 10p ET https://t.co/qkzuMfWXrj pic.twitter.com/gJcRlBZKNY
— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 31, 2017
Asked about Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos, Kelly falsely says “all” of the activities happened “long before they ever met Donald Trump.” https://t.co/VVIIVy3D3N
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 31, 2017
Honestly, I think he’s sitting on the Flynn indictment to see what the WH says and does.
I’ll see your Keith Olbermann and raise you a Sean Hannity:
BREAKING FUX NEWS… pic.twitter.com/7gWXqSJB35
— Citizens Fed Up (@CitizensFedUp) October 30, 2017
chris hayes cannot believe this man doesn’t have a lawyer.
he keeps finding new ways to be like, “wait. do you DON’T have a lawyer?”— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) October 31, 2017
when asked about legal representation, carter page said he has some “unofficial people” he is “talking to.”
— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) October 31, 2017
Carter Page is like a combination of Bullworth and Ben Stiller’s Simple Jack. pic.twitter.com/GkU6x9buMe
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) October 31, 2017
Carter Page is really set on alliteration as a Get Out of Jail Free card. He keeps repeating “Dodgy dossier” clearly hoping it sticks. @msnbc
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) October 31, 2017
re: #1 FormerDirtDart
Such a stupid claim. Papadopoulos sought info from Russians to use against Secretary Clinton to help Trump get elected. Who is Kelly fooling? He sure lies easily.
🎙On October 30, 1938, Orson Welles’ ‘The War of the Worlds’ aired on CBS radio, causing panic among thousands of listeners pic.twitter.com/nnky27Gxyf
— RetroNewsNow (@RetroNewsNow) October 31, 2017
WH: “There’s nothing in the Manafort or Gate indictments that indicate collusion with Russia…”
Mueller: “Surprise, motherfucker!” *drops Papadopoulos guilty plea*
WH: “That guy was a temp! We never took the meetings!! THIS MEANS NOTHING!!!”
So, Dim Jim was taken in by a joker. What are the odds? 1to1
lmao pic.twitter.com/gsk5JE17jv
— Tom Bloke (@21logician) October 30, 2017
didn’t expect this to take off. probably going to get suspended now
— Tom Bloke (@21logician) October 30, 2017
checked in on Fox News to get some news about Manafort and i’m really worried about North Korea and want to buy some gold now
— Tom Bloke (@21logician) October 30, 2017
Here is Carter Page essentially admitting he was on email chains with George Papadopoulos speaking about trying to collude with Russia LOL pic.twitter.com/A8ZYSeV9OW
— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez) October 31, 2017
re: #1 FormerDirtDart
He’ll be asked about Hillary Clinton - nothing to see here in regard to Manafort.
Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.
re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.
And in a complete disconnect from reality, he’ll go with his first instinct and appoint Michael Flynn.
re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Pence may go down before Trump does, as per Agnew and Nixon. The fly in that oatmeal is that Trump could then select a successor.
Pence will be indicted and resign within a year.
I’ll repeat something I posted this morning.
Who had Papadopolous in their indictment pool this morning? Who even knew who that was?
That’s why Trump’s in such deep trouble and so many in the Trump cabal have lawyered up for months already. They knew this was bad, but they just didn’t know how bad things would be because Mueller literally had an insider with a wire getting the juicy details.
Manafort and Gates are big fish each on their own.
Taken together, that’s a significant chunk of Trump campaign timeframe.
And one of the charges includes conspiracy against the US - 18 USC 371.
The notion of collusion is that one party is working in concert with another in furtherance of a crime. That’s a conspiracy. In this case, we’re talking a conspiracy against the United States. Collusion is an inaccurate and inappropriate term, but everyone is using it as shorthand.
Trump’s team engaged in a widespread conspiracy against the US to work in concert with foreign powers to win the presidency. That’s illegal. And multiple criminal acts were carried out in furtherance of the conspiracy.
There’s obstruction of justice, perjury, and lying on SF 86s, and that’s just among Donny Jr., Sessions, and Kushner.
Those are next up here, although knowing Mueller, he’s probably got a few intermediate folks to roll up.
There’s also a reason Mueller brought in prosecutors who know how to deal with mob prosecutions, because the parallels are there.
“Greatest crime in American history.” Yep, Watergate pales in comparison. The Republican Party should be prosecuted under RICO, and banned as a criminal organization. There are also many international implications that could bring it under the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice. Lumpy and Limbaugh could end up in the Julius Streicher seat after all.
TONIGHT: WH Chief of Staff John Kelly speaks exclusively on the premiere of “The @IngrahamAngle.” Tune in at 10p ET https://t.co/qkzuMfWXrj pic.twitter.com/gJcRlBZKNY
— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 31, 2017
But way to go, Fox, letting your viewers come away stupider. https://t.co/Is7KSRW9AL
— Geriatric Joffrey (@Unabogie) October 31, 2017
.@realDonaldTrump sure got quiet when the Papadopoulos news broke. “Oh no. He found out about Papadopoulos too?”
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
re: #16 Targetpractice
And in a complete disconnect from reality, he’ll go with his first instinct and appoint Michael Flynn.
Better than Pence.
BREAKING: FEMA just announced that TSA is APPROVED for Puerto Ricans displaced by hurricanes Irma & Maria.
Here’s how to apply: pic.twitter.com/l5ATMqAWpV— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) October 30, 2017
This is a financial game changer for displaced Puerto Ricans.
But it came 40 days after Maria made landfall.
TX got it 2 days after Harvey https://t.co/H9BzZqq4B6— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) October 31, 2017
re: #24 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
[SCENE: Oval Office. Trump and Pence are sitting behind the desk.]
PENCE: That’s Papadopoulos. Oh… SHIT.
[Office is silent for approximately six seconds.]
PENCE: [Sniffs the air suspiciously.]
TRUMP: Mike, fetch me my brown pants.
I notice wingnuts seem to think that today was it, that all the indictments filed were unsealed and Mueller will have to work with these three. Oh silly, silly fools…
re: #29 Targetpractice
I notice wingnuts seem to think that today was it, that all the indictments filed were unsealed and Mueller will have to work with these three. Oh silly, silly fools…
According to at least one wingnut who “knows about prosecutions”, Democrats should be afraid of where this is leading.
Was *anybody* thinking about George Papadopoulos last night? This is Trump’s nightmare: Mueller’s investigation has already gone deep.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) October 30, 2017
re: #29 Targetpractice
Yeah, there’s a totally boundless fountain of misinformation from the right wing about how this is the limit of the investigation and that this is it.
Mueller got 2 campaign chairmen and a key foreign policy adviser on conspiring against the US and engaging in multiple crimes. All those crimes point to further indictments (the conspiracy part).
And Mueller didn’t even get into the low hanging fruit like Flynn, Kushner, Sessions, or even Donny Jr.
The problem with @PressSec defence is: if Papadopoulos was an unpaid, unimportant nobody why is he sitting around the table with Trump pic.twitter.com/zvX2JfRH1e
— Paul Danahar (@pdanahar) October 30, 2017
That’s because @presssec is a serial liar https://t.co/DUPPMo3Rsu
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 30, 2017
Why does Carter Page keep giving interviews? This is just brutal. pic.twitter.com/wjo4KfzXQt
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 31, 2017
Wait. What?
Whoops, @seanhannity just said “President Clinton” referring to Hillary. It’s almost as if he wishes Hillary Clinton really was president.
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) October 31, 2017
For like the third time this week, another right wing hack or key mouthpiece has called this the Clinton Admin, or otherwise made it appear that Clinton’s the one in charge.
I’d love to see the video of this… I wont watch Hannity on the general principle though.
Freud would have a field day with these folks. They are absolutely pathological.
Carter Paige is the Jar jar Binks of this Trump/Russia movie.
Apparently “Dirty Dossier” is the new talking point, as Hannity just used it for one of his slides.
re: #36 lawhawk
Wait. What?
[Embedded content]
For like the third time this week, another right wing hack or key mouthpiece has called this the Clinton Admin, or otherwise made it appear that Clinton’s the one in charge.
I’d love to see the video of this… I wont watch Hannity on the general principle though.
Freud would have a field day with these folks. They are absolutely pathological.
Really. If Clinton were President, Fox ratings would be up, and Hannity would be the Voice Of The Resistance!
Now? He’s stuck playing a dime store Josef Goebbels.
Fox News is insanely wacky tonight. Hard to believe people buy into the horseshit they’re spewing, but there’s Trump in the White House.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
re: #37 gocart mozart
Carter Paige is the Jar jar Binks of this Trump/Russia movie.
Meesa thinking yousa right about that.
re: #36 lawhawk
Hannity just called Hillary Clinton “President Clinton”
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) October 31, 2017
They are quite literally disassociating from reality right in front of our eyes https://t.co/0dlnORLQud
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 31, 2017
Where we are now: Hannity just told his viewers that “special counsel Mueller is clearly complicit in that Uranium One scandal.”
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 31, 2017
And the 300+ killed in the Beiruit Embassy blast under St. Ronnie means…what, exactly ? @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/fskKDqQkqz
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) October 31, 2017
re: #38 Targetpractice
Apparently “Dirty Dossier” is the new talking point, as Hannity just used it for one of his slides.
Patrick Swayze spy musical?
re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White
George Lucas would find Carter Page too improbable a character.
re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White
Take my money!!
re: #46 lawhawk
George Lucas would find Carter Page too improbable a character.
“Fiction has to make sense.”
re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White
That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”
Interesting.https://t.co/YR5H2rfgAr
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 31, 2017
Or, was he ‘earning his bones” cooperating with the investigation to earn the finalized plea agreement in early Oct.
— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) October 30, 2017
re: #42 JordanRules
“Goddammit!! Hillary Clinton runs for President and gets 3 million more votes. The President is under investigation by a Special Counsel, there are indictments, and talk of impeachment, and I here I am playing Defense!”
re: #33 lawhawk
Yeah, there’s a totally boundless fountain of misinformation from the right wing about how this is the limit of the investigation and that this is it.
Mueller got 2 campaign chairmen and a key foreign policy adviser on conspiring against the US and engaging in multiple crimes. All those crimes point to further indictments (the conspiracy part).
And Mueller didn’t even get into the low hanging fruit like Flynn, Kushner, Sessions, or even Donny Jr.
I have heard the conspiracy against the US is sort of boiler plate language and doesn’t have anything to do with “collusion” to subvert the election.
“It is not uncommon when there are multiple actors engaged in criminal conduct—white collar or otherwise—for prosecutors to charge a conspiracy,” Griffin says. That appears to be what special counsel Robert Mueller and his team are doing with the conspiracy against the United States charge. But it is fundamentally a charge related to the other charges of money laundering and misleading federal officials and investigators about foreign bank accounts and lobbying for the Ukrainian government. It’s not about betraying America in some deep sense.
IANAL, but I see a lot of people investing a lot of hope in the Mueller investigation to topple the whole house of cards and I think it wouldn’t hurt to temper our expectations a bit. That way you don’t get too disappointed if he doesn’t but you can be pleasantly surprised if he does.
re: #49 PhillyPretzel
That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”
That’s actually the first part of the quote I quoted the second part of.
re: #52 danarchy
As Sun Tzu said: “The Wheels of Justice grind slowly, but turn very fine indeed….”
Bathtub zoomies! pic.twitter.com/zLCRj1K4oT
— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) October 31, 2017
re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White
“Goddammit!! Hillary Clinton runs for President and gets 3 million more votes. The President is under investigation by a Special Counsel, there are indictments, and talk of impeachment, and I here I am playing Defense!”
It’s upside down world.
re: #52 danarchy
There’s no such thing as collusion as a crime under federal criminal law (as opposed to antitrust, where collusion is a thing). When people speak of collusion with Russia, they’re really talking about conspiring with a foreign entity and violating further federal criminal laws. Since there’s no specific crime to address that, it falls under conspiracy against the US under 18 USC 371.
WaPo via MSN: 7 tantalizing questions about the Russia probe from Trump aide George Papadopoulos’s plea deal
For the first time, we have a figure from the 2016 Trump campaign who we know is cooperating with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III in his Russia investigation. George Papadopoulos is talking after being caught lying to investigators.
Exactly what that means, we don’t really know.
But that’s just one of several big, juicy questions emanating from the former Trump foreign policy adviser’s plea deal. The document is filled with anonymous campaign officials on the other end of Papadopoulos’s emails. We may not know who they are, but special counsel Robert S. Mueller III sure does. And in many cases, they seem to have known about contacts with Russia that the campaign and its principals, including President Trump, would later deny.
Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?
I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.
re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White
Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?
I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.
Messy.
re: #58 lawhawk
Since there’s no specific crime to address that, it falls under conspiracy against the US under 18 USC 371.
But Manafort wasn’t charged under that, was he ?
Internet loses it after ‘malfunctioning droid’ Carter Page ‘legit foamed at the mouth’ during bonkers interview https://t.co/oXSP0JXn6E
— GodsMigraine (@GodsMigraine) October 31, 2017
re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White
Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who doesn’t want this day to end?
I’m on the verge of a Schadenfreudgasm.
I think the world record set when Pharma Bro Shkreli was arrested has been handsomely exceeded.
Looks like Hair Furor is becoming a bit unglued…
WaPo via MSN: Upstairs at home, with the TV on, Trump fumes over Russia indictments
President Trump woke before dawn on Monday and burrowed in at the White House residence to wait for the Russia bombshell he knew was coming.
Separated from most of his West Wing staff — who fretted over why he was late getting to the Oval Office — Trump clicked on the television and spent the morning playing fuming media critic, legal analyst and crisis communications strategist, according to several people close to him.
The president digested the news of the first indictments in Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe with exasperation and disgust, these people said. He called his lawyers repeatedly. He listened intently to cable news commentary. And, with rising irritation, he watched live footage of his onetime campaign adviser and confidant, Paul Manafort, turning himself in to the FBI.
Initially, Trump felt vindicated. Though frustrated that the media were linking him to the indictment and tarnishing his presidency, he cheered that the charges against Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were focused primarily on activities that began before his campaign. Trump tweeted at 10:28 a.m., “there is NO COLLUSION!”
But the president’s celebration was short-lived. A few minutes later, court documents were unsealed showing that George Papadopoulos, an unpaid foreign policy adviser on Trump’s campaign, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI about his efforts to broker a relationship between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The case provides the clearest evidence yet of links between Trump’s campaign and Russian officials.For a president who revels in chaos — and in orchestrating it himself — Monday brought a political storm that Trump could not control. White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, along with lawyers Ty Cobb, John Dowd and Jay Sekulow, advised Trump to be cautious with his public responses, but they were a private sounding board for his grievances, advisers said.
“This has not been a cause of great agita or angst or activity at the White House,” said Cobb, the White House lawyer overseeing Russia matters. He added that Trump is “spending all of his time on presidential work.”
Robert Mueller is superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity. Media should now calm down
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) May 18, 2017
Newt just called Mueller “a out of control prosecutor” on Hannity https://t.co/2wXtrWf1GG
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) October 31, 2017
lolwut https://t.co/AcAwTybIE9
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
this guy…really wants to be “important” somehow…
“Papadopoulos has been cooperating since July. I’ve been cooperating since March,” Carter Page tells @ChrisHayesTV
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 31, 2017
Newt Gingrich calls federal agents working under a search warrant a “grotesque abuse” pic.twitter.com/9A1tSo1Mux
— Claudia Koerner (@ClaudiaKoerner) October 31, 2017
The circumstances under which conservatives see excesses in law enforcement are interesting to say the least https://t.co/jZ4ut1BVeP
— Gritty Reboot 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) October 31, 2017
Currently on Fox News: pic.twitter.com/6OtfdYogVI
— Megan Garber (@megangarber) October 31, 2017
“#TrumpRussia is exploding!”
“Get me the Dlibert guy!”
:room full of laughter:
:stone-faced realizations it’s not a joke:
(10 minutes later) https://t.co/Vfy13nNeUD— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) October 31, 2017
re: #71 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
The only one that’s grotesque here is you, Newt. You had your 15 minutes of fame, now get the fuck out.
They’re feeling nostalgic for an alternate reality in which Hillary’s president and they’re impeaching her.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
We all knew that, when Mueller was appointed earlier this year, one of two outcomes would happen: He’d meet the wingnut expectations by slow-walking the investigation and working to undermine it in tune with the GOP’s efforts or he would take it seriously and work to prosecute it in the very way that the GOP lied that they hoped he would and they would work tear him down despite all the glowing recommendations they initially gave him.
re: #71 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
Gingrich: The Justice Dept BROKE INTO HIS HOUSE at 6 am in the morning…
Hannity: Guns blazing!
Gingrich: Yeah…— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) October 31, 2017
And if Hair Furor’s day couldn’t get any worse….
USA Today via MSN: Trump’s ban on transgender troops blocked
WASHINGTON — A federal court on Monday blocked President Trump’s ban on transgender service members, preventing the Pentagon from overturning policies initiated by the Obama administration to allow transgender troops from serving openly.
The order in Washington by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly temporarily prevents to the Pentagon from enacting the ban that Trump announced by tweet in July. It is the first court order following challenges to Trump’s ban and can be appealed.
The court found that Trump’s ban likely means the plaintiffs - transgender troops some with decades or meritorious service - had their rights to due process violated.Kollar-Kotelly found several factors that favored the plaintiffs, notably the unusual way Trump announced it and “the fact that the reasons given for them do not appear to be supported by any facts, and the recent rejection of those reasons by the military itself.”
Lawyers for the plaintiffs hailed the decision, saying that it means the guarantees made under the Obama administration to transgender troops, including medical care, are back in place. That also means the Pentagon must begin making plans to accept new transgender troops by Jan. 1, 2018, said Shannon Minter, legal director at the National Center for Lesbian Rights.
“She basically wiped the slate clean,” Minter said of Kollar-Kotelly.
There was no immediate comment from the Pentagon.
Hillary Clinton: “All the networks except Fox are reporting what’s really going on… It appears they don’t know I’m not president.”
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) October 31, 2017
Folks should be recording this shit for the possibility that Mueller does indict Tony Podesta, because we will all suffer whiplashes from the suddenly turn to “THIS IS PROOF HILLARY IS A CRIMINAL COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA!!!”
Sean Hannity just called Hillary “President Clinton” — if he’s privy to some info we’re not, I’m open to it.
— Sarah Wood (@sarahwoodwriter) October 31, 2017
Now that power isn’t just complete license, and the stakes might include punishment, suddenly the people they’ve previously declared weak are immeasurably strong and responsible for everything not working right.
This is so pathetic, that there’s an adult audience for this kind of gross. self-pitying rhetorical grope.
.@seanhannity: “If you or I…did anything close to what the Clintons, the @DNC, & others did, we would be rotting in a jail cell tonight.” pic.twitter.com/cYU05iTOWC
— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 31, 2017
re: #62 The Major
c-6rtwjumjzx7877x24bbbx2eozx78ynhjx2elta.g00.slate.com (this is a link to the actual indictment hosted at slate - relevant charges begin at page 23; the preceding pages are the facts/evidence/allegations).
Count 1 is conspiracy against the US, and applies to both Manafort and Gates.
New LGF page/Tweet:
Trump’s ban on Transgenered Military Personnel Blocked https://t.co/osLTi1VcFO
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) October 31, 2017
Here is @SeanHannity calling Hillary Clinton “President Clinton” and then called Obama “President Clinton wannabe” LMAO
BAHAHAHAHAH 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/cRl3FTlYjb— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez) October 31, 2017
re: #81 The Vicious Babushka
[Embedded content]
Well, he’s right, but only because they would have cocked everything up and broken half of the laws currently on the books in the process. They just can’t follow rules, and they’re mad at Clinton because she did and they can’t nail her for anything.
.@SebGorka and @GreggJarrett are next to explain why a new special counsel should be formed to investigate Hillary Clinton #Hannity
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) October 31, 2017
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pic.twitter.com/PISLEQ8kqD
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 31, 2017
re: #87 FormerDirtDart
Boy Sean - you sure are willing to sell your soul to The Prince of Lies for The Power of Gold After all… pic.twitter.com/cxowKXMK7h
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) October 31, 2017
What the commander in chief’s son just insta’ed… “There’s so much truth to this and it’s scary. #maga” pic.twitter.com/7m1Vu4nBdx
— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) October 31, 2017
re: #74 Charles Johnson
They only know how to be the opposition, not how to govern.
— ❄❄❄ (@DeaAmericana) October 31, 2017
Democrats have exactly the opposite issue: We can govern, but we’re not a great opposition party.
re: #90 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
Fuck off Ralph. Seriously I don’t care if this guy is former military. I’m tired of right wingers claiming we don’t respect the servicemen and women.
House majority leader told colleagues last year “I think Putin pays” Trump. Paul Ryan told them not to leak remarks. https://t.co/vrBJ6s4Plj
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) May 17, 2017
Just bumping this back to the top. https://t.co/YaHetIi8YY
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) October 29, 2017
re: #90 FormerDirtDart
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) October 31, 2017
It’s a big day a good one. We need it because if we don’t win we get this. But worse.
How in the world could so many aging paunchy white guys with scant diplomatic experience but issues with women & honesty get turned by spies pic.twitter.com/4v5PVgrkOJ
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) October 31, 2017
re: #93 jaunte
Ryan and McCarthy joked that Rohrabacher and Trump were on Putin’s payroll.
They joked about it.
They didn’t take it seriously.
They didn’t want anyone else to take it seriously.
Talk about a perfect storm
Just heard this Octavia Butler quote for the first time and am now obsessed with it. pic.twitter.com/2M4cVlGmFu
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) June 27, 2017
re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth
The top responses:
Could she fire Trump?
— Leslie Williams (@MrsW3652) October 31, 2017
re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White
Same here. I actually felt really good for once!
I’m in a much better mood today than I’ve been in for weeks. I have put off so much (looking for a new job, writing). Typical depression mixed with what is happening with my world.
But today is a little better. I know this not the end, but it’s the only time since the election that someone has stood up to the trump machine.
On the way home I stopped at my fav takeout joint. Goody’s serves mostly Caribbean specialties (Jerk chicken, Roti, BBQ ribs). It’s in a very mixed neighborhood in the Rockaways (Queens, NY) Public housing mixed with working class .
I love goody’s and treat myself a couple times a week. As I was picking up my chicken and rice (lots of oxtail gravy. I swear they put crack in the gravy-it is addicting, but that’s another story.) This woman came to the counter and wanted to talk with the manager. She wanted to get food and pay tomorrow. My guess is she gets some type of welfare on the last day of the month. Not sure. Anyway I told the guy I wanted to buy her soup. I tried to do it discreetly, but she figured it out and gave me a hug and then apologized for hugging me. As I Jew I’ve always been taught that the best type of charity is when the person receiving does not know who it came from. You do it because it is the right thing to do, not to get recognition.
So the point of all this is that I’m feeling a little better and perhaps we all should. I’m getting back on the job hunt tonight.
Life is just a little better.
Peace
re: #97 lawhawk
Ryan and McCarthy joked that Rohrabacher and Trump were on Putin’s payroll.
They joked about it.
They didn’t take it seriously.
They didn’t want anyone else to take it seriously.
They only care about tax cuts.
“He admitted, OK, he lied to the FBI. I think he is 29 years old” pic.twitter.com/MRxUhUHc1q
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 31, 2017
Congratulations to George Papadopoulos, President Trump’s newest large adult son https://t.co/ybbHF5D1AJ
— Take Scare Clause 🎃 (@qjurecic) October 31, 2017
re: #81 The Vicious Babushka
[Embedded content]
What you see in this clip is a very real effort to begin weaponizing anger and fear over the potential that Trump will be removed from office. These people are truly trying to incite violence in the hopes that they can scare reasonable people into arguing that Trump be left in power just to avoid all-out war.
re: #52 danarchy
I have heard the conspiracy against the US is sort of boiler plate language and doesn’t have anything to do with “collusion” to subvert the election.
IANAL, but I see a lot of people investing a lot of hope in the Mueller investigation to topple the whole house of cards and I think it wouldn’t hurt to temper our expectations a bit. That way you don’t get too disappointed if he doesn’t but you can be pleasantly surprised if he does.
A “Conspiracy against the United States” could include several people filing false VA travel claims. (There is an article up from the Casper newspaper in Cheyenne about that very thing.)
My county newspaper went with a political cartoon of the Uranium One derp today.
They also made me feel old. There is a column in the paper called “Years Gone By,” which has county news from five to one hundred ten years ago. In the five years ago column is the death of the village board member whose seat I took in a special election a few days later.
That means my name is going to appear in the “Days Gone By” column in a week or two. I am officially old.
re: #103 jaunte
“He admitted, OK, he lied to the FBI. I think he is 29 years old” pic.twitter.com/MRxUhUHc1q
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 31, 2017
no man is ever an adult in this America. https://t.co/KaPoemgq4H
— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) October 31, 2017
No white man. https://t.co/yqFNOIoR4S
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) October 31, 2017
re: #103 jaunte
[Embedded content]
Lumpy goes on a tear about “equality under the law,” then downplays lying to the FBI when it was the entire point of months of screaming fits by the wingnuts over Hillary’s email server.
re: #103 jaunte
[Embedded content]
Yeah 29 years old with two master degrees. Man Hannity is a path hack.
This same nazi fucker who said Hillary Clinton should be executed like the Rosenbergs.
.@SebGorka on Mueller investigation: “The President told me…they will never find anything because there is nothing to find.” #Hannity pic.twitter.com/orMj7RGM5G
— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 31, 2017
Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.
Look at that Fox chyron tryna make you think Hillary Clinton is the subject of Mueller’s charges.
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
Don’t miss this nugget from the Post, Trump staff are fretting that Gates is going to snitch on them. This is not how the innocent act. pic.twitter.com/cyDvm0lekx
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) October 31, 2017
Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told.Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March.
He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again
WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous.
Farage has not been accused of wrongdoing and is not a suspect or a target of the US investigation. But being a person of interest means investigators believe he may have information about the acts that are under investigation and he may therefore be subject to their scrutiny.
Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
This same nazi fucker who said Hillary Clinton should be executed like the Rosenbergs.
[Embedded content]
He LIED to you, Gorka. It’s that fucking simple.
re: #92 HappyWarrior
Fuck off Ralph. Seriously I don’t care if this guy is former military. I’m tired of right wingers claiming we don’t respect the servicemen and women.
The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.
re: #110 jaunte
Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.
They really didn’t need to wire him, just make everyone believe he had a wire. Mueller is of the charts brilliant.
NBC News: Manafort is one of the unnamed officials in Papadopoulos document
— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) October 30, 2017
Mueller’s sent a not so subtle message to Manafort and Gates.
He has them dead to rights. Now deal with me or else find yourself spending a very long time in prison.
By deal? Give me the goods to help fill in the blanks against everyone else in the Trump WH.
Hannity calling into question Grand Jury process, says jurors in DC are liberal
— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) October 31, 2017
Seb Gorka requesting a time machine so jury can be culled from 1938 Germany. https://t.co/oWsBWHC4S8
— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) October 31, 2017
Tomorrow’s @NYDailyNews front page: pic.twitter.com/re4VMw7VDD
— Mohamad Bazzi (@BazziNYU) October 31, 2017
re: #101 I Would Prefer Not To
Take care. As others have noted, this is not as bad as it seems. It takes time to put together a complicated case like this one.
Watergate took over two years to play out, and we didn’t have instant communications about every niggling detail like we do now to obsess over.
There has never been a Republican president in my life (except Eisenhower and I was too young to remember him) that was not corrupt. I see nothing new now. We’ll get through all this. Hopefully, the GOP will pay a price for this.
Moreover, the right-wing nutbar judges that Heritage and others want nominated just got their path spiked. There ain’t no way Trump’s White House is going to be worrying about nominating judges when he’s looking on Expedia for tickets to a non-extradition country.
re: #122 The Vicious Babushka
Finest Afghan… weave.
re: #104 Targetpractice
What you see in this clip is a very real effort to begin weaponizing anger and fear over the potential that Trump will be removed from office. These people are truly trying to incite violence in the hopes that they can scare reasonable people into arguing that Trump be left in power just to avoid all-out war.
Thing is Trumps policies and his followers present a two level threat to ordinary people. Thanks to the long war our young know how to fight and know violence. You learn how to make an IED when you learn to defeat an IED. On the policy side we have repeal without replace, deportations and jailings. Destroy the (edit) wrong family with any of those policies, a family with a trained up guy that has nothing to lose. He acts on his desperation and anger.
Or this guys voluntary deplorable army Trump Youth. They go out all White Lives Matter with armor on and open carry, the counter protesters do the same and it’s on.
We really needed today. I’m feeling very grateful.
Dan Rather:
“…In Watergate, there was a growing sense of pressure. But the crime itself was rather contained. Here the crimes are allegedly widespread and strike at the very heart of our democratic institutions. There is a strong suggestion that there were active agents for the Russian government working inside the highest echelons of the Trump campaign.”
Tomorrow would be a good day for Mueller to release Trump’s tax returns.
re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth
How did I ever have a crush on Jonathan Turley? Good God. Shoot me.
Anyway it’s good and cool that the president watches a TV network that insists he can literally do no wrong.
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 31, 2017
re: #128 jaunte
Tomorrow would be a good day for Mueller to release Trump’s tax returns.
I think the only way for him to do that legally would be to get them introduced as evidence in a public court proceeding. He doesn’t seem to be the sort of guy who is going to illegally leak info.
re: #101 I Would Prefer Not To
Yum. That food sounds delicious. Wish I had a Caribbean restaurant nearby. Good on you for helping out that lady.
John Kelly on Mueller’s probe: “It should be over soon. It would seem that they’re towards the end of the witness pile.”
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 31, 2017
Speaking of fantasies.
My suggestion that the Republican Party itself be prosecuted, and abolished, will seem extreme but consider what would have happened if Nixon had accused McGovern campaign manager Gary Hart of being a Soviet agent. Imagine further that it was proven true.
JUST IN: Twitter tells U.S. Congress it has found 2,752 accounts linked to Russian operatives, up from 201 tally it reported in September pic.twitter.com/DUeF0cXYiP
— Reuters Politics (@ReutersPolitics) October 30, 2017
Really?
I don’t know why, but, that number seems low to me. pic.twitter.com/2BkjlRVga5— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) October 31, 2017
re: #110 jaunte
Tonight everyone in the White House is trying to recall if they saw Papadopoulos in the room, were on the phone with him, after he could have been wired by the FBI.
Sweating.
Nah, the real sweating is over who else has turned coat, who else has cut a deal to get out from under Mueller’s hammer. There was no indication whatsoever that Papadopoulos had flipped. It caught everybody on both sides of the aisle by surprise and changed the calculus.
I suspect Cobb and Sekulow are gonna have nightmares tonight of all the “volunteers” that were connected to the campaign who might have already cut a deal with Mueller.
re: #119 jaunte
How do you spend $950k on rugs?
To give them a good shampooing, sell them, and send the money back to the people that gave it to you in the first place, pocketing your 10% vig.
re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth
I keep missing that Trump posted that picture.
re: #115 Anymouse 🌹
The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.
And you, more than other Veterans who want us to take pity on them because they were drafted in an unjust war during Vietnam and throw the statement “You never served, did you?” at us, failing to understand that (1) It wasn’t our choice at the time and (2) While you served, every single US Citizen paid our tax dollars so you could serve, and receive free benefits that many Americans can’t get due to your sacrifice…
I salute you.
re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
When I grew up, I actually had sane Republicans: George Romney and Bill Milliken.
Today, those are such a rare breed as to be extinct.
re: #134 jaunte
[Embedded content]
Speaking of fantasies.
Beyond delusional. He must be out of his mind as well. They’re all living in Lala land.
re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Looking past Trump, what do we do with the Russians who got so far into our system and had such consequential crimes on their hands? That’s the other shoe here.
Mueller obviously launched his boats early and has them perfectly positioned to pick up the rats as they flee the sinking SS Trump.
Anyone familiar with Fort Wayne, Indiana?
Was reading about the Rohingyas being resettled over there where there is a large Burmese community already present. Of course, had to read this from a self-described “Christian”:
Most of the foreign born Burmese population of Fort Wayne speak a different language and have a different religion than the Rohingya. The ethnic and religious tensions that fueled their flight from Myanmar are still an issue in the U.S.
“Why I don’t like Rohingya to come to Fort Wayne is …most of them…almost 100 percent…are Muslims,” said Abraham Thang, a Burmese Chin community leader.
Thang moved to Fort Wayne in the 1990s.
“They’re blood is Muslims, not Buddhist, not Christians,” he said. “They did a very terrible job, like attacking the military and police post and killing and murdering the Hindus. That is not good for Rohingyas. That is a big mistake by Rohingyas.”
Thang is a leader at the Myanmar Indigenous Christian Church. He was one of the few Burmese who was willing to talk to VOA about the Rohingya settlement in Fort Wayne. While he says these are his own opinions, they represent the same issues the Rohingya experience in Myanmar.
“I don’t mind they practice what they believe,” Thang explained to VOA.
“What I mind is extremism,” he added. “Most of the terrorists come from the Muslim community. This is what I am thinking in my mind personally. So my opinion is rather than sending Rohingya to Fort Wayne - and not sending them is better - don’t send the Rohingya to Fort Wayne.”
re: #115 Anymouse 🌹
The one veteran on my city council? Me, the leftie socialist. The Republicans? Never been anywhere near a military base or naval vessel.
The only two veterans in the area I work in out of 25 people are the two Democrats.
re: #146 electrotek
I spent a few months in Terre Haute one week.
re: #144 Unshaken Defiance
dsAp7qkdHrI7S1Kh5+lRYCTNBTvzT0SCXA5s+IOYSlxRI1Zcos9b/9jfyG/AcfLfDSW/waj453h4YR8TdcdyyTNd8CVoyZUahahfSAMBuxlzlLaootfOlpyufiV1ABkv5tqLqeloX5oP2Nnz1it18m2JVBNh3YbhRAF8ILyeaLWt64E9I795yzAsTjai7UmCSx3L6tW5UFWhi0w5T9jTszgkJV7V7Sta5do05OuslXk=
Well, it would appear my letter to the editor of the regional newspaper standing against nutbar conspiracy radio host Sam Clovis for Chief Scientist of the USDA was the right call.
Perhaps I can get a job at the Scottsbluff Star-Herald as a political pundit (bwahahaha no).
Happy Birthday Ivanka LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Luv Robert Mueller (goes to Wonkette, wherein they explain the good things that come out of today’s events for Ivanka Trump)
re: #146 electrotek
I saw a Phish show once in Noblesville, outside of Indianapolis. Got absolutely soaked by a torrential rainstorm that delayed the second set by an hour.
“It is very distracting for the president to be investigated for something” - Chief of Staff Kelly on #Mueller investigation on Fox
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) October 31, 2017
Appears the White House Chief of Staff just confirmed what the White House has denied for months: Donald Trump is under investigation. https://t.co/VDLcDHjHpx
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) October 31, 2017
re: #151 teleskiguy
I saw a Phish show once in Noblesville, outside of Indianapolis. Got absolutely soaked by a torrential rainstorm that delayed the second set by an hour.
Sounds like jam band heaven haha
John Kelly: “The lack of ability to compromise caused the Civil War.”
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 31, 2017
John Kelly on the Civil War: “Men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand.” https://t.co/yUx21OF3M3
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 31, 2017
re: #149 The Major
8HWQVcWMYOZIvUBWs3ivdXwbAeAT8dxFcF9dKvlVlC3we1phVUoAuJbKleUWr65xBAYHDO5pVpHZGUf9JWKd6JvcQfOASMfbjRgPA718aol6sJIHBky+JzaKWPWGAWRbnigH08ymnbkLfr9DDs0csquBePMJaajjBTx8cmMZTL3k/GrbOH/r+JFvGaYkTseB/59fhCRp3s9n5+WxqgWV9gzuthFe+rZaLvDUf2SwxqOVdwwjumJVCA==
re: #153 electrotek
Sounds like jam band heaven haha
While the storm moved through during the extended set break (some of the most spectacular lightning I’ve ever seen, BTW) the squares were definitely scared off. When the second set started, there were definitely less people, more room to move around, and the denizens had a high wook factor.
Here’s a psycho to report
I’m angry as hell like many people! If our votes don’t count anymore the other alternates might have to be put into play I hate to say.
— P. Patriot FD/EMS (@valley308) October 31, 2017
re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
My suggestion that the Republican Party itself be prosecuted, and abolished, will seem extreme but consider what would have happened if Nixon had accused McGovern campaign manager Gary Hart of being a Soviet agent. Imagine further that it was proven true.
Speaking of Nixon, I just came across this four-year-old article which is…horrific at multiple levels: The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon’s ‘treason’
It begins in the summer of 1968. Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.
He therefore set up a clandestine back-channel involving Anna Chennault, a senior campaign adviser.
…
In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.
So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.
But here’s the money quote:
The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.
Gee…sound familiar? -_-
Which is not honorable. It is treason.
— Willing to discuss (@buffsblg) October 31, 2017
re: #49 PhillyPretzel
That is why some people say, “Truth is stranger than fiction.”
This is why I don’t like much fiction and fantasy. I like the endeavors of real people and I love a good crime story.
And this is shaping up as a nice crime story even with what will turn out to be comedic elements worthy of The Three Stooges.
re: #141 The Major
And you, more than other Veterans who want us to take pity on them because they were drafted in an unjust war during Vietnam and throw the statement “You never served, did you?” at us, failing to understand that (1) It wasn’t our choice at the time and (2) While you served, every single US Citizen paid our tax dollars so you could serve, and receive free benefits that many Americans can’t get due to your sacrifice…
I salute you.
I get the unjust war part. I would much rather have my father than a gold pin worth about $75. There are many Vietnamese who don’t even have that.
As for the free benefits (particularly medical for me and my family as a disabled vet), I would much rather have those for everyone rather than simply signing up for military service, even if I did volunteer for it. A nation as wealthy and powerful as ours should be able to provide that for every last person in the nation.
This is very important context to understand why John Kelly is Trump’s chief of staff.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 31, 2017
re: #106 FormerDirtDart
“He admitted, OK, he lied to the FBI. I think he is 29 years old” pic.twitter.com/MRxUhUHc1q
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 31, 2017
no man is ever an adult in this America. https://t.co/KaPoemgq4H
— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) October 31, 2017
No white man. https://t.co/yqFNOIoR4S
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) October 31, 2017
No white Republican. https://t.co/7GhMEwMv7r
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 31, 2017
re: #165 MsJ
Some of us on the left are able to openly admit we’re not adults.
re: #162 Charles Johnson
One side had faith in slavery. Today one side has faith in bigotry.
— Jeff Fearlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 31, 2017
“I don’t know, maybe they could have just freed the younger ones, they could have worked something out.” pic.twitter.com/e7QIhYBQmG
— Schooley (@Rschooley) October 31, 2017
re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
The only one that’s grotesque here is you, Newt. You had your 15 minutes of fame, now get the fuck out.
I liken Newtie to a weathervane. Just look at the wind blowing out of his mouth and you can tell the direction The Party is headed at that moment.
And he is always blowing.
Gorka and Hannity are floating a conspiracy that maybe Mueller and Comey are targeting Trump in order to cover up their own Russia collusion
— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) October 31, 2017
re: #144 Unshaken Defiance
Looking past Trump, what do we do with the Russians who got so far into our system and had such consequential crimes on their hands? That’s the other shoe here.
One pipe dream I like to entertain is that if Trump gets removed from office for his crimes that the damage to the GOP ends up being so severe that:
1) By 2020 Democrats have 2/3 in the Senate and control of the House,
2) Democrats have the will to use that power to systematically impeach and remove from office all of Trump judicial nominations on the grounds that a crook should not have his nominations stand for lifetime appointments, and
3) The mainstream media views this as a routine cleanup operation.
re: #170 Charles Johnson
At least they’ve come around to admitting there’s something wrong about Americans colluding with Russia.
re: #162 Charles Johnson
Screw you John Kelly!
re: #171 EPR-radar
One pipe dream I like to entertain is that if Trump gets removed from office for his crimes that the damage to the GOP ends up being so severe that:
1) By 2020 Democrats have 2/3 in the Senate and control of the House,
2) Democrats have the will to use that power to systematically impeach and remove from office all of Trump judicial nominations on the grounds that a crook should not have his nominations stand for lifetime appointments, and
3) The mainstream media views this as a routine cleanup operation.
4) The Electoral College is eliminated.
re: #170 Charles Johnson
They’re trying to get brainwashed Fox victims to rise up against the government, which will get them arrested or killed.
— Jeff Fearlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 31, 2017
John Kelly: China has “a system of government that apparently works for the Chinese people.”
Ingraham: “Well, not all of them.”— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 31, 2017
So Mueller and Comey colluded with the Russians when and for what reason exactly?
This lies are getting even more out there.
re: #170 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
That is so fucked up. Hannity has officially gone full Alex Jones. He has no proof of that at all. Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.
I so wish there were baseball tonight instead of just tomorrow.
re: #176 jaunte
[Embedded content]
In best Rod Serling, now imagine if you will had Rahm Emanuel said this about the PRC.
I wonder how many GOP members of the House are sleeping poorly tonight?
They have to decide how much they want to support what looks like it will be a very damaged administration. On the one hand, 80+% of Republicans support Trump, so they might be primaried if they try to impeach him. On the other hand, Trump’s popularity is so low elsewhere that they could lose in the general if some of those Republicans stay home and others turn out.
re: #181 calochortus
I wonder how many GOP members of the House are sleeping poorly tonight?
They have to decide how much they want to support what looks like it will be a very damaged administration. On the one hand, 80+% of Republicans support Trump, so they might be primaried if they try to impeach him. On the other hand, Trump’s popularity is so low elsewhere that they could lose in the general if some of those Republicans stay home and others turn out.
I don’t feel bad for them at all for being in that predicament.
re: #182 HappyWarrior
I don’t feel bad for them at all for being in that predicament.
Well, naturally I don’t feel bad for them either. :)
re: #177 BigPapa
So Mueller and Comey colluded with the Russians when and for what reason exactly?
This lies are getting even more out there.
The RWNJs were sure that they were succeeding in destroying our liberal democracy, and now the law is closing in on their god emperor. They’re all insane and freaking out.
You know, I never liked Hannity ever but accusing Comey and Mueller of collusion with Russia is just wow. Hell I don’t even know who Mueller supported in the last election. Note to the GOP, he’s saying this about two men who are both registered Republicans and who were appointed in the last GOP administration. When do you finally say enough is enough and get rid of Trump? But I get it, you sold your souls out for tax cuts and to enable a xenophobic base so it’s okay for Hannity to question teh patriotism of men like Comey and Mueller.
re: #183 calochortus
Well, naturally I don’t feel bad for them either. :)
I know heh. Seriously what a bunch of pathetic jackasses.
Stuart Stevens on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. I guess we’ve all forgotten what a horrible right wing creep he is, too.
“I think we make a mistake, though, and as a society and certainly as, as individuals, when we take what is today accepted as right and wrong and go back 100, 200, 300 years or more and say…’what Christopher Columbus did was wrong,’” Kelly said on the premiere of Fox News’ “The Ingraham Angle.”
“…I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their highnesses; we shall take you, and your wives, and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their highnesses may command; and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him; and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us…”
Text quoted from: “El Requerimiento” in Wilcomb Washburn, ed. The Indian and the White Man.
Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told.Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March.
He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again
WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous.
Farage has not been accused of wrongdoing and is not a suspect or a target of the US investigation. But being a person of interest means investigators believe he may have information about the acts that are under investigation and he may therefore be subject to their scrutiny.
Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.
re: #185 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
The RWNJs were sure that they were succeeding in destroying our liberal democracy, and now the law is closing in on their god emperor. They’re all insane and freaking out.
Inorite? To think that the anointed one should be subject to such mundane things as “the rule of law” n shit.
It’s just so unfair! MAGAP!
(Monafort and Gates and PapaD)
re: #188 Charles Johnson
Stuart Stevens on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. I guess we’ve all forgotten what a horrible right wing creep he is, too.
Would I be off Charles in suggesting there ought to be a lawyer that anyone involved in running a persidential campaign can’t have had lobbied for a foreign government? This stuff is just disturbing. It’s not just Manafort, Stevens, but also people like Sanders’ former campaign manager, Davine.
Twitter reveals 36,746 Russian bots generated approx. 1.4 million automated, election-related tweets, sources say https://t.co/iQ3vmqrtPa pic.twitter.com/tfj8lgUDXy
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 31, 2017
re: #190 gocart mozart
Ah Nigel may have been what was meant when we heard this could be headed international. I think a lot thought Assenge and he still may be but I had completely forgotten about Farrage.
re: #193 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
We’re in a new Cold War. I hate to sound nuts but I’d say the Cold War has merely been on reboot mode for a while.
Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.
re: #155 Unshaken Defiance
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
re: #157 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Or you could, I don’t know, stop listening to the bullshit Fox News is shoveling at you.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 31, 2017
Go down in FLAMES
SCOOP - Bannon talked to Trump today, encouraged him to get new lawyers https://t.co/U8FB89LIAO via @swin24
— Sam Stein (@samstein) October 31, 2017
re: #179 meteor
Meteor have some mercy, people need to sleep!
re: #196 HappyWarrior
Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.
Happy, this is what I’ve been saying ever since last year! Putin has succeeded where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev failed! He’s successfully turned the Republican Party into a Russian front and he’s destabilized the United States. Yet when I started to post this on Daily Kos I was ridiculed!
re: #196 HappyWarrior
Putin has done what Stalin, Khrushchev, and other Soviet leaders never could. He divided the U.S. and he found a willing American to help him. Screw Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, but I can’t see either of them doing what Trump and his guys did. And yes I know about Nixon’s doings in Vietnam.
As far as I can tell, the Russians have done nothing to the US that the GOP, Mercers and Koch brothers haven’t being doing for decades. If some kind of Russia scandal ends up taking out Trump, great, but the real problem is an electorate having a critical fraction of infinitely reprogrammable meatheads that prefer propaganda to reality.
re: #178 HappyWarrior
“Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.”
Hannity will never have a “come to Jesus” moment in regard to this administration just as he never had one in the last administration ——because the truth doesn’t matter to him or to the millions that support Trump and get their news from Fox. There’s a reason Fox viewers are less informed about our government that those of us who don’t get our information by watching Fox. I can’t watch Fox News because their constant lying pisses me off and gets on my last d*mn nerve.
I am truly afraid for Hillary right now. With all the hate being directed at her by Fox News I fear another Scott Roeder is being programmed to kill her.
someone get me an air cannon that shoots copies of the battle cry of freedom hard enough to cause skull fractures.
— Asinus Pervicax (@Cato_of_Utica) October 31, 2017
re: #192 HappyWarrior
Yup. I think Davine should be looked into!
Paul Manafort arrest of course no surprise. Tony Podesta should have resigned long ago for taking Yanukovych money. What about Tad Devine, senior adviser to both John Kerry and Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaigns. Will he get swept up in this? https://t.co/r7dYKkA4xn pic.twitter.com/bjssD4dMuj
— Andrea Chalupa (@AndreaChalupa) October 30, 2017
Pic taken June 9, ‘16.
Same DAY as Don Jr’s Russia meeting.
Bernie rpt’dly agreed to concede.
Changed his tune that NIGHT. Looked to Philly. pic.twitter.com/yZ4AcYiP3s— Only4RM (@Only4RM) September 29, 2017
re: #87 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
That’s PRESIDENT Hillary Clinton to you.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) October 31, 2017
re: #184 dangerman
“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”
Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.
re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹
Happy, this is what I’ve been saying ever since last year! Putin has succeeded where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev failed! He’s successfully turned the Republican Party into a Russian front and he’s destabilized the United States. Yet when I started to post this on Daily Kos I was ridiculed!
IMO this Russia business is part of the Trump stench. The Mercers and Koch brothers have more money than God, so they have no need to get in trouble by dealing with Russian criminals. As recently as 2012, Romney was saying Russia was our #1 enemy.
On the other hand, Trump is almost certainly owned by the Russians.
re: #206 majii
“Just his pathetic twisted love of Trump.”
Hannity will never have a “come to Jesus” moment in regard to this administration just as he never had one in the last administration ——because the truth doesn’t matter to him or to the millions that support Trump and get their news from Fox. There’s a reason Fox viewers are less informed about our government that those of us who don’t get our information by watching Fox. I can’t watch Fox News because their constant lying pisses me off and gets on my last d*mn nerve.
I can’t watch Fox (or CNN or MSNBC) because I don’t have cable. I save a shit-pot of money and have a lot less aggravation in my life. I just have this broadband that allows me to pick and choose what content I read, and generally go to sites I trust. I spend a lot of time on UK media, which, if you ignore the tabs, is pretty interesting.
Sean Hannity had a very strange Freudian slip on Monday. https://t.co/P1HmKNmPix
— Twitter Moments (@TwitterMoments) October 31, 2017
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Guilt is innocence
Collusion is patriotism— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) October 31, 2017
“…On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.”
bartleby.com
re: #166 Belafon
Some of us on the left are able to openly admit we’re not adults.
I’m an adult when I have to be an adult.
Which I guess makes me an adult. Shit.
re: #200 Stanley Sea
Go down in FLAMES
[Embedded content]
Could people start dropping banana peels wherever Bannon is walking?
Now is THIS an interesting find…..
I LOVE this peice of info…Thanks for bringing that to my attention - it will serve most useful to me….
— TheMajor (@TheMajorsViews) October 31, 2017
re: #211 majii
“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”
Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.
He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful goldfish.
re: #217 MsJ
I’m an adult when I have to be an adult.
Which I guess makes me an adult. Shit.
Someone around here has to be the adult /s
re: #212 EPR-radar
IMO this Russia business is part of the Trump stench. The Mercers and Koch brothers have more money than God, so they have no need to get in trouble by dealing with Russian criminals. As recently as 2012, Romney was saying Russia was our #1 enemy.
On the other hand, Trump is almost certainly owned by the Russians.
Maybe literally. After American banks quit floating paper for him after the Atlantic City fiasco, Drumpf (The King of Debt!) had to find new sources of capital or he was going to die financially. Hello Russia! A kleptocracy that needs to launder funds to get American dollars to expand outside of the Rodinya.
A marriage made in mafia heaven.
re: #219 The Major
The delusions of grandeur are tiring.
Happy Indictment Day, Ivanka… .
Who picked that shitty pic? THESE are much, much, MUCH better! pic.twitter.com/mT1Bzow8fv
— Rustinius Maximus (@RustiniusMximus) October 30, 2017
re: #204 EPR-radar
But they aren’t allowed to do it and that is a line that exists for a reason. I agree with what you’ve said about the electorate and feeding off of things that already existed but a great historic foe, another nuclear power, another nation state can’t do it.
And it makes sense to see where the intersection is because maybe the American entities colluded and crossed that line too.
re: #158 Interesting Times
Speaking of Nixon, I just came across this four-year-old article which is…horrific at multiple levels: The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon’s ‘treason’
But here’s the money quote:
Gee…sound familiar? -_-
I didn’t realize till just now that Anna Chennault is still alive (she’s 92). She has been involved in an incredible amount of Republican skulduggery over the years.
re: #170 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
They need something this crazy bizzare and twisted otherwise they got nothing and would have to acknowledge the truth
re: #212 EPR-radar
Oh but they do have a reason to get in bed with a powerful ally, even if foreign (and not really an ally), because they can’t win without cheating in multiple ways. However they can get the Ws needed to get their tax cuts and bigot laws is all good.
Sitting here with a smile, imagining everyone in the Trump WH racking their brains trying to remember any conversations/communications they’ve had with Papadopolous. *snicker*
re: #219 The Major
Now is THIS an interesting find…..
[Embedded content]
Even more interesting! The Podesta Group is run by Tony Podesta, not his brother John. Hillary’s Podesta had NOTHING TO DO with Yanukovich and Manafort.
This is not rocket science. All you have to do is type “Podesta” and Yanukovich” into Google, and it pops right up on this subject. There is no “both sides”. Tony is not John.
re: #186 HappyWarrior
You know, I never liked Hannity ever but accusing Comey and Mueller of collusion with Russia is just wow. Hell I don’t even know who Mueller supported in the last election. Note to the GOP, he’s saying this about two men who are both registered Republicans and who were appointed in the last GOP administration. When do you finally say enough is enough and get rid of Trump? But I get it, you sold your souls out for tax cuts and to enable a xenophobic base so it’s okay for Hannity to question teh patriotism of men like Comey and Mueller.
They had pussygate liargate and cheatergate.
Comey and Mueller aren’t “,theirs”anymore
This barely registers
re: #200 Stanley Sea
Go down in FLAMES
[Embedded content]
New lawyers can’t erase Twitter
Or tapes from a wire
Or public photos
Or
re: #209 JordanRules
Yup. I think Davine should be looked into!
[Embedded content]
I definitely do wonder about Sanders given that.
re: #211 majii
“No one puts Donnie in a corner?”
Right, because his loose lips and misfiring brain causes him to put himself in a corner. Dude was so sure last year that being POTUS was a cakewalk, but the job is above his skill set. Way above. He lacks the intellect and the self-discipline required to be a successful POTUS.
And that would be true even without having to manage all this illegal nonsense. And Twitter. And rallies. And family and