The Bob Cesca Show: The Canoeing

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

The Canoeing: Not Safe For Work; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Trump attacks Sen Gillibrand suggesting she trades sexual favors for contributions; The response from Morning Joe, Gretchen Carlson, and Sen Gillibrand; Dems call for investigation of Trump’s alleged sexual assaults; Election Day in Alabama; Roy Moore’s wife talks about her Jewish lawyer; Trump could fire Robert Mueller; The impending constitutional crisis; Hopeless; Lindsey Graham and the gift that keeps on giving; and much more.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:30:26pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:31:27pm

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:33:38pm

I have hope.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:34:47pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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Which will be ignored by all the pundits tomorrow to declare that Moore’s victory is proof that Virginia was either A) a fluke or B) not indicative of the party’s troubles next year and Trump is not radioactive to everybody but the hardcore base.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:35:32pm

I totally got CL’ed (pbuh).

To the Jewish Lizards out there, I say Hanukkah Sameach!

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:38:04pm

CL’ed:

re: #247 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the sunny and temperate Indian subcontinent. I wanted to check in and see what, if anything, we know about Alabama yet. Unfortunately, right now being Wednesday here does not, in fact, mean that I can see into the future and tell you what the outcome will be. How go things among the lizardfolk back home across the pond?

No returns yet. Exit polls seems to indicate that more black people are voting than usual, and the electorate isn’t that excited about Trump or credulous about Moore. No way to know the final results, but it doesn’t look like Moore will win by a lot, if he does win.

dailykos.com

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:38:37pm

Dems win either way but I’d rather win by the winning way.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:41:08pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:44:33pm

Instagram

As I head to France for the next races, I would like to share with you my reflections from the past few days.
I’ve received a tremendous amount of feedback, both positive and negative, about my recent CNN interview. The point that I was trying to articulate is that all Olympic athletes represent their nation as a whole, and are not representatives of their government or any specific political figure or party. None of us work tirelessly for years on end to compete in the Olympics on behalf of Democrats or Republicans. The Olympics are a non-political event, a chance for everyone to put aside their differences and be on the same “team.”. That does not mean that Olympic athletes don’t have political opinions. As an American, I am extremely proud that our great nation was founded on principals and ideals where citizens can express our opinions openly. It is a privilege that some others around the world don’t have.

I am proud to be an American, and I want our country to continue to be a symbol of hope, compassion, inclusion and world unity. My travels around the world have recently made clear that this is no longer how people view the United States. You cannot pick up a newspaper or turn on the TV in Europe without noticing how people are questioning our direction. It seems to me that we must lead with understanding and strive for unity in our relationships throughout the world.

As for myself, my recent comments opened up my eyes as to how divided we are right now. It is hurtful to read comments where people are hoping I break my neck or that God is punishing me for being “anti-Trump.” We need to find a way to put aside our differences and find common ground in communicating. Is it wrong to hope for a better world?

All of this is much bigger than skiing and the Olympics. I am going to take the next two months to focus on what I can do and right now that is competing for my country. In doing that, I will be hoping that we Americans can still be that “shining city on a hill.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:46:21pm

re: #6 Charmingly Persistent

CL’ed:

No returns yet. Exit polls seems to indicate that more black people are voting than usual, and the electorate isn’t that excited about Trump or credulous about Moore. No way to know the final results, but it doesn’t look like Moore will win by a lot, if he does win.

dailykos.com

FYI, I did see it on the other thread. I’m going to be watching this with interest throughout the morning - I don’t depart for work until 11:30 PM EST.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:47:38pm

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whitebeach  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:48:23pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

I totally got CL’ed (pbuh)

re: #6 Charmingly Persistent

CL’ed:

Charles has enough on his plate, so I hate to pester him, but I know he has the programming chops to put up something like pro football’s two minute warning when a thread is about to close. Don’t know how many times I’ve written the most intelligent and humorous comment the English language has ever seen, only to watch it fall into oblivion seconds after I post it. And usually it just seems presumptuous to me, being the extremely humble person that I am, to drag it onto the next page.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:48:40pm

Another couple of hours doing GOTV for Doug Jones. All of the people I talked to said they’d already voted.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:48:54pm

The last betting line at betfair, I think:
betfair.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:49:17pm
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:49:25pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Well said by her, but a point to add:

The Olympics are, have been, and always will be political; no matter what we would like to think, or how we portray things. Think about how many people felt about the National Anthem until a short time ago.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:50:31pm

So the gamblers at betfair still think that Moore has a 70% chance of winning.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:53:08pm

re: #17 freetoken

So the gamblers at betfair still think that Moore has a 70% chance of winning.

In reality it’s 100%. There is no way he loses.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:53:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:53:41pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

In reality it’s 100%. There is no way he loses.

The question is how close will it be. If Jones can garner 48-49%, Republicans might be sweating.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:54:01pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

In reality it’s 100%. There is no way he loses.

In 7 minutes, we’ll start finding out if that’s true.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:54:10pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

In reality it’s 100%. There is no way he loses.

100% is not a gambling choice.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:54:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:55:14pm

Polls about to close in AL. We’re nearing zero hour folks.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:55:27pm

re: #22 freetoken

100% is not a gambling choice.

As a former bookmaker, I understand that.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:56:58pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

As a former bookmaker, I understand that.

Speaking of bookmakers:

Who will win the US Senate Special Election in Alabama?
Roy Moore (R) -270
Doug Jones (D) +180

We’ll soon find out if the bettors on Jones pick up a small gain.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:58:35pm

WITUFITFS

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:58:38pm

re: #26 freetoken

Speaking of bookmakers:

We’ll soon find out if the bettors on Jones pick up a small gain.

Look at that 90-cent difference in price. Look at that right there and you’ll understand why you have no chance of beating the bookie.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:58:58pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

Oh not that shit again.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:59:28pm

re: #14 freetoken

The last betting line at betfair, I think:
betfair.com

No idea what back and lay mean.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 4:59:56pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

WITUFITFS

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Despite the warnings, the GOP keeps ingesting the brown acid.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:01:13pm

Aaand, polls are closed in Alabama.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:01:15pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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IT’S GOT ELECTROLYTES!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:01:23pm

re: #30 MsJ

No idea what back and lay mean.

“Back” = “will happen.” “Lay” = “won’t happen.”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:01:28pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

WITUFITFS

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This dude dove too many times into the shallow end of the “cee—ment pond.”

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:02:23pm

re: #30 MsJ

No idea what back and lay mean.

That’s a British site using a kind of parimutuel betting, where one puts up an offer for your choice for winning, and others choose whether to take it or not.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:02:46pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Aaand, polls are closed in Alabama.

Lets get ready to rumble

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:02:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:04:58pm

Question: You show up at your polling place at 6:45 PM. Clock hits 7. You haven’t voted yet because of the line. Do they boot you out or are you allowed to stay and vote?

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:05:02pm

re: #34 Ace Rothstein

“Back” = “will happen.” “Lay” = “won’t happen.”

So what does this mean? I don’t get it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:05:36pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: You show up at your polling place at 6:45 PM. Clock hits 7. You haven’t voted yet because of the line. Do they boot you out or are you allowed to stay and vote?

You are allowed to stay and vote.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:05:51pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: You show up at your polling place at 6:45 PM. Clock hits 7. You haven’t voted yet because of the line. Do they boot you out or are you allowed to stay and vote?

If you’re in line before 7, you can vote.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:06:05pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

You are allowed to stay and vote.

Yup, this. You aren’t allowed to join the line, but if you are already in line, you get to go through and vote.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:06:11pm

re: #40 MsJ

Click on the little icons next to the names, to pop up a graph.

On the graph, check the little box that says to invert the graph.

You’ll then get the numbers put into an expected value - in percent - of that bet winning.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:07:38pm

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:07:42pm

re: #44 freetoken

Click on the little icons next to the names, to pop up a graph.

On the graph, check the little box that says to invert the graph.

You’ll then get the numbers put into an expected value - in percent - of that bet winning.

Ima gonna stick with Hold ‘Em. I understand that.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:08:26pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?
…kernighan and ritchie?

si.

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teleskiguy  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:08:45pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

The Constitution of the United States?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:09:25pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

The Necronomicon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:09:37pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

“On the Origin of Species”

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:09:42pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

D&D Player’s Handbook.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:09:56pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

The Necronomicon.

The fundamentalists would have a shit fit. Which, of course, would make it perfect.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:10:21pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

The Necronomicon.

KLAATU…VERATA…NI(*cough,cough)*!!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:10:35pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: You show up at your polling place at 6:45 PM. Clock hits 7. You haven’t voted yet because of the line. Do they boot you out or are you allowed to stay and vote?

In my state, if you are in line, you get to vote. Alabama? Probably not.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:10:49pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

D&D Player’s Handbook.

“I do hereby swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to remain lawful neutral for my entire term of office.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:11:00pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

The Necronomicon.

“Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fthagn!”

“Eh, close enough.”

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:11:02pm

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:12:54pm

re: #54 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

In my state, if you are in line, you get to vote. Alabama? Probably not.

Probably depends on where you’re voting. If it’s Those People, probably not. Otherwise, sure thing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:14:43pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: You show up at your polling place at 6:45 PM. Clock hits 7. You haven’t voted yet because of the line. Do they boot you out or are you allowed to stay and vote?

Oh. I forgot to ask the important question. Are you white or other?

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whitebeach  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:16:25pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

As a former bookmaker, I understand that.

Oh fucking snap and duh. I never got the “Ace Rothstein” allusion till now.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:16:33pm
DAN HOPKINS 8:15 PM
Talking to Alabama voters today, I was reminded once again that last-minute news is rarely as salient to voters as it is to pundits. No one mentioned Sen. Shelby refusing to vote for Moore — or the late revelation about the yearbook signature.

It’s a low-information vote.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:17:17pm

Boy, some of those districts have literally tens of people.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:18:04pm
CLARE MALONE 8:16 PM
OK, so the polls are closed and the votes are being counted, but what do the preliminary exit polls say about who came out and voted in Alabama today?

Sixty-five percent of the electorate was white, 30 percent was black, and 3 percent was Latino. Moore won 70 percent of the white vote and Jones won 88 percent of the non-white vote. There was a gender gap between the two candidates: Moore won men by 57 percent, Jones won women by 57 percent. College graduates overall were won by Jones, but Moore won white college graduates.

Bible colleges??

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:20:09pm

Apparently Moore won big among non college whites but economic anxiety./:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:21:24pm

re: #61 freetoken

It’s a low-information vote.

So in other words, a normal American election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:22:03pm
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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:23:00pm

A visual breakdown.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:23:09pm

I’m predicting Moore by 6.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:24:39pm

re: #68 MsJ

A visual breakdown.

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Can’t wait to hear Bernie tell us we’re losing because we “ignore” the WWC.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:24:40pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:26:24pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to hear Bernie tell us we’re losing because we “ignore” the WWC.

We tried pandering to them, and we got Trump. No offense, but as a white-middle-class guy who falls into the upper end of the “WWC” label, I would much rather the Democrats focus on doing what’s right for everybody, and to hell with everybody around me who is just going to vote for the fat white old guy with the R next to his name regardless.

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Alyosha  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:26:32pm

I sure hope Decatur Deb gets to break out the celebratory boxed wine tonight.
You done good!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:26:54pm

re: #72 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We tried pandering to them, and we got Trump. No offense, but as a white-middle-class guy who falls into the upper end of the “WWC” label, I would much rather the Democrats focus on doing what’s right for everybody, and to hell with everybody around me who is just going to vote for the fat white old guy with the R next to his name regardless.

Absolutely!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:27:55pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:28:48pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to hear Bernie tell us we’re losing because we “ignore” the WWC.

We can appeal to them the old fashioned way: by promising benefits and jobs will be provided only to whites, especially men. I think that’s what the BernieBros are saying

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Weaselone  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:30:51pm

re: #63 freetoken

That exit poll makes the race essentially a dead heat.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:31:08pm

re: #72 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yesss!!!!

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IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:33:46pm

re: #75 Eventual Carrion

It’s a nail-biter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:34:09pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:34:21pm

If Jones wins, we’ll get a tweet before the end of the night of every news network other than Fox announcing such, while they spend yet another night convincing their viewers that Hillary’s gonna be frogmarched “any day now.”

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:34:21pm

Anyone know the key areas to watch?

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Cheechako  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:34:44pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

Mad Magazine?

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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:36:24pm

re: #82 MsJ

Anyone know the key areas to watch?

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Jones needs huge turnout in Birmingham and Montgomery, and in the “black belt” counties that run across the state just south of Montgomery. If he can hold Moore more or less even in Huntsville and Mobile, it’s good. If Moore starts turning in big numbers in the rural counties in the north and south and in the suburbs around Birmingham and Montgomery, it’s over.

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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:37:39pm

re: #84 ipsos

Jones needs huge turnout in Birmingham and Montgomery, and in the “black belt” counties that run across the state just south of Montgomery. If he can hold Moore more or less even in Huntsville and Mobile, it’s good. If Moore starts turning in big numbers in the rural counties in the north and south and in the suburbs around Birmingham and Montgomery, it’s over.

(And at least so far, the NYT projections look cautiously good for Jones. But it’s too damn early.)

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:37:58pm

NYT reporting 119 write-in’s with just 1% pct’s reporting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:41:52pm

re: #85 ipsos

(And at least so far, the NYT projections look cautiously good for Jones. But it’s too damn early.)

Their Needle Of Fate is stubbornly stuck in the middle.

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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:43:22pm

re: #86 Eventual Carrion

NYT reporting 119 write-in’s with just 1% pct’s reporting.

I wouldn’t get very excited about that just yet. The latest NYT numbers show just 1% of the total vote counted so far is write-ins. I’d bet a typical election draws between 0.5-1% of write-ins without Roy Moore in it.

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Broad With Sass  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:43:24pm

I already got a WTF looking at the NYT…Talladega County is blue

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:44:16pm

It looks like even those districts going to Moore are having a good amount of votes going to Jones.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:45:44pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:46:03pm

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Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:46:32pm

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:46:40pm

Ooh wee! Making some Thai lettuce wraps and enjoying a vodka spritzer. Nervous as hell. Glad I have y’all to laugh or cry with tonight!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:46:49pm

1.1% write in

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:47:13pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

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Does Fleischer realize that the vast majority of Republicans would vote for Stan himself if he ran as a Republican?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:47:21pm

re: #90 Broad With Sass

I already got a WTF looking at the NYT…Talladega County is blue

According to one of the election experts (Nate Cohn? Dave Wasserman?), Alabama counties are often mixed populations, so you can’t tell anything about a county till the whole county’s done.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:47:26pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

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Yeah that’s why Ari not that your party’s base hates Democrats that much. Fuck off.

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:47:31pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

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All day. Every day.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:48:11pm

re: #97 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Does Fleischer realize that the vast majority of Republicans would vote for Stan himself if he ran as a Republican?

They’d vote for the Austrian corporal if he pandered to them on old time religion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:48:18pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

According to one of the election experts (Nate Cohn? Dave Wasserman?), Alabama counties are often mixed populations, so you can’t tell anything about a county till the whole county’s done.

As someone who has spent a fair amount of time in Alabama, I can attest to this.

103
Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:48:31pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

1.1% write in

I’m hoping that is what will sink RoyBoy.

104
JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:48:48pm

re: #103 Eventual Carrion

Me too!

105
Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:48:51pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fucking wanker.

106
MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:49:49pm

Tightening up. Looks like Huntsville came in maybe. 50-48 Jones.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:09pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

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What is the “mainstream” on abortion, Ari? Last I checked, it wasn’t banning it altogether, which is Moore’s position.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:10pm

re: #103 Eventual Carrion

I’m hoping that is what will sink RoyBoy.

Per NYT, write-in now 1.3%.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:28pm

re: #106 MsJ

Tightening up. Looks like Huntsville came in maybe. 50-48 Jones.

50-48 MOORE

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Broad With Sass  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:33pm

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

As someone who has spent a fair amount of time in Alabama, I can attest to this.

My sister says there has been alot of WWC movement out of Talladega up to Shelby cause of the automotive stuff

I moved away from there in 1990, so seeing it blue for even awhile is a shock

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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:50:50pm

New twitter feature - show this thread

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:51:04pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

What is the “mainstream” on abortion, Ari? Last I checked, it wasn’t banning it altogether, which is Moore’s position.

The mother of the man Ari was press secretary for is pro choice as was his father for much of his political career.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:51:50pm

re: #111 JordanRules

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SEE? SEE?!?!? SUPER-SEKRIT MUSLIM!!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:52:02pm
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JordanRules  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:53:00pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Kiss my lady ass PJ!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:53:29pm

re: #69 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m predicting Moore by 6.

It depends on how many of those African-American votes mysteriously disappear from the totals. I’ve already seen reports of hundreds of incidents of voter suppression that occurred today.

118
Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:53:33pm

7% reporting, write-ins now 1.5%; Moore up 53-45.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:54:06pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Harry Reid was “pro-life” and see how much the wingnuts snuggled up to him!

//

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:54:21pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Ah, are we talking the “pro-life” that demands abortion banned while supporting capital punishment, wars of choice, and opposes universal health care?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:54:43pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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And this is why I had no problem with the criticism of the Omaha candidate Bernie strongly backed. Pro-choice values matter from the largest city/state to smallest area. In fact, I think it’s more important in red states and regions given how red areas attempt to limit choice locally.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:54:50pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:55:21pm

re: #119 bill d. (b.d.)

Harry Reid was “pro-life” and see how much the wingnuts snuggled up to him!

//

Jimmy Carter is fairly pro life too. Wingnuts love him.//

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:55:25pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Fuck Ari Fleischer.

I realize I’m preaching to the choir, but…consider how Fleischer has conflated a calculation about morals and a calculation about power.

This is exactly the shit I’m talking about (all the time, to the point that you could make a drinking game out of it)…”what’s right” is relative “who can get away with it?”

125
freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:55:55pm

Nate with some gloom:

NATE SILVER 8:55 PM
With 88 percent of the votes now reported in Limestone County, Moore’s lead has expanded to 24 points — slightly better than the benchmarks he needs in a 50/50 race.

126
plansbandc  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:56:22pm

As I have stated previously, anti choice is an absolute deal breaker for me.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:56:57pm

re: #126 plansbandc

As I have stated previously, anti choice is an absolute deal breaker for me.

I agree. I used to think otherwise but now I’m 100% pro choice.

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freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:57:19pm

Harry joins the chorus:

HARRY ENTEN 8:56 PM
Houston County is another place where Moore is beating his benchmark. He’s up 28 percentage points. He needed to win that by 22 points, per my benchmark.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:57:32pm

re: #128 freetoken

Harry joins the chorus:

Agh.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:57:34pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Ah, are we talking the “pro-life” that demands abortion banned while supporting capital punishment, wars of choice, and opposes universal health care?

And no birth control.

This is a no starter argument & we should never get into it.

131
freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:57:49pm

My feeling, it’s only a feeling, is that bookies are right more often than they are wrong.

132
Patricia Kayden  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:58:36pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Republicans got shellacked in Virginia. WTH is he yapping about. Republicans now have a sexual harasser in the White House and a child molester in the Senate. Nothing to boast about.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:58:48pm

The thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win. Will it be shameful and embarrassing and painful, yes. Will it suck, absolutely - especially once the wingnut brigade trots out the crow pies to try to force-feed them to us. But we’re not losing anything here if we lose tonight; that seat is already Republican-held, they would be the ones losing if they lost. We continue on. We persist. We keep fighting.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:59:26pm

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win. Will it be shameful and embarrassing and painful, yes. Will it suck, absolutely - especially once the wingnut brigade trots out the crow pies to try to force-feed them to us. But we’re not losing anything here if we lose tonight; that seat is already Republican-held, they would be the ones losing if they lost. We continue on. We persist. We keep fighting.

Agreed.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 12, 2017 • 5:59:43pm

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thank you.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:01:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:07pm

Moore is pulling ahead.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:16pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

Enchiridion for me.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:17pm

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win. Will it be shameful and embarrassing and painful, yes. Will it suck, absolutely - especially once the wingnut brigade trots out the crow pies to try to force-feed them to us. But we’re not losing anything here if we lose tonight; that seat is already Republican-held, they would be the ones losing if they lost. We continue on. We persist. We keep fighting.

Seriously.

This situation seems so dire. Moore win OR lose.

I need assistance off this ledge & I thank you.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:02:52pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

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Vichy France
The Good Germans

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:03:40pm

Tightened up for a bit

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Interesting Times  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:03:54pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:04:35pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

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It’s always easy to suggest compromise when you’re not the one compromising anything. After all, PJ loses nothing if the DNC agrees to “compromise” on abortion. It’s not his rights that are being tossed around like poker chips.

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IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:04:42pm

It’s still dead even.

145
The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:05:54pm

re: #138 Jebediah, RBG

Enchiridion for me.

You want liches?

That is how you get liches.

146
ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:06:07pm

re: #133 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win. Will it be shameful and embarrassing and painful, yes. Will it suck, absolutely - especially once the wingnut brigade trots out the crow pies to try to force-feed them to us. But we’re not losing anything here if we lose tonight; that seat is already Republican-held, they would be the ones losing if they lost. We continue on. We persist. We keep fighting.

We did? I didn’t. I have been hopeful for a win. It is Alabama, one of the hardest states in this country to drag into the 21st century.

The Democrats have won in some ways though no matter the turnout. Moore cost the party money and stature and sweat. And if McConnell fashions some way to keep Moore out of the seat that will piss off the party base not only in Alabama but all over the country.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:06:08pm

re: #138 Jebediah, RBG

Enchiridion for me.

PDR for me….

148
HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:06:35pm

We have no idea demographics wise where these are coming from.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:07:15pm

re: #142 Interesting Times

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Sure, they know first hand about PedRoy..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:07:26pm

If Moore wins, you know we’ll get the inevitable photo op with Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:07:48pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

It’s always easy to suggest compromise when you’re not the one compromising anything. After all, PJ loses nothing if the DNC agrees to “compromise” on abortion. It’s not his rights that are being tossed around like poker chips.

And there you have why many women get annoyed at Sanders when he dismisses pro-choice as a valid issue to support a candidate.

152
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:08:06pm

Hard to fault Jones if he loses, he’s run a great campaign.

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ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:08:35pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

If Moore wins, you know we’ll get the inevitable photo op with Trump.

Good. Two sexual deviants together. It’s a good look for the GOP.

154
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:08:57pm

The Russians have already targeted the voting machines & hacked into them. The Alabama Supreme Court gave them the green light.

Moore says, Спасибо!!!

155
danarchy  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:09:18pm

re: #149 Eventual Carrion

Sure, they know first hand about PedRoy..

unfortunately now that it is about 25% in Moore is ahead 53-45.5 in Etowah county

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HappyWarrior  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:09:31pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Hard to fault Jones if he loses, he’s run a great campaign.

Very good. Reminds me of Tom Perriello here in Va.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:09:50pm

re: #155 danarchy

unfortunately now that it is about 25% in Moore is ahead 53-45.5

Ugh.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:10:40pm

Moore will keep inching ahead as his vote comes from smaller, more rural precincts that will come in steadily. Jones’ vote will come in fewer large spurts from larger population city and suburban areas.

In most State elections the cities come in last, but I still wouldn’t let that get your hopes up.

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Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:10:40pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Hard to fault Jones if he loses, he’s run a great campaign.

Even if Jones loses, he made the race competitive in a way that “conventional wisdom” would say is impossible. He’s everything that supposedly is poisonous to a red state Democrat’s chances and yet he may very well end the night losing by single digits. That should be enough to have every Republican still on speaking terms with reality calling for their brown pants.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:10:59pm

re: #155 danarchy

unfortunately now that it is about 25% in Moore is ahead 53-45.5

MSNBC has 17% in and Moore up 51-48

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:06pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

You want liches?

That is how you get liches.

The lich is definitely one of the scariest things ever… but wouldn’t he have stayed in amber if everyone had listened to PB? I always listen to PB so I feel pretty safe…

162
Stanley Sea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:09pm

re: #144 IngisKahn

It’s still dead even.

Sad for the East Coasters! Have a very soulful no sleep hump day!

GEICO Hump Day Camel Commercial Happier than a Camel on Wednesday

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Stress reducer. Plus I bought this bad ass bacon & am making a good ole BLT.

163
piratedan  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:19pm

considering the possibility that Alabama may very well elect an accused predator of teenagers into the Senate, I wonder if any of the ladies that have come forth as accusers will choose to press charges….

I would think that this would be an extraordinary ask of them, but how many of them have become outraged by the way that they have been treated, not just by Moore’s denials, but by those willing to accuse them of being in it for the money or having other political motivations to want to have a day in court (or a week or a month)….

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Skip Intro  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:25pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

If Moore wins, you know we’ll get the inevitable photo op with Trump.

And Bannon. Both trump and Bannon will think they’ve become gods. As ugly as things have been, getting a child molester elected to the Senate is just the beginning of even lower lows in the future.

165
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:11:50pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as an atheist, what text would i like to be sworn in on?

principia mathematica? the wizard of oz? kernighan and ritchie?

Both times I took the affirmation of office on copies of the US and Nebraska Constitutions. (The Principia Discordia crossed my mind.)

Last night was a very long village board meeting. Reorganization of the board: I’m still chair pro-tem (vice mayor).

Suggestion to the board that (because we have trouble getting people to run for office) that we pay a stipend to board members to be put on next month’s agenda.

Someone noted that might piss off a lot of people here (the other cities and the county commission actually pay decent sums, the suggested amount here was something like $100 a year). I pointed out “good, then they can run for office to get rid of it.”

166
danarchy  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:12:06pm

re: #160 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

MSNBC has 17% in and Moore up 51-48

Wapo has a live map:

washingtonpost.com

167
Skip Intro  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:12:27pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

Except that the Republicans keep winning the ones that count.

168
IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:12:55pm

Jones largest swing yet…

169
ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:13:36pm

NYT prediction just tipped back to Jones…. very barely.

There appears to be a huge Birmingham/Jefferson County pile of votes yet to come in, and a lot from Montgomery as well. In theory that should help Jones. In practice…keep biting them knuckles.

170
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:13:57pm

re: #146 ObserverArt

I didn’t say that I didn’t hope for a win; I just didn’t expect one. I felt that Jones had a legitimate chance to pull it off, but in the end, I expected party loyalty to win out over accusations of child molestation. Let’s face it - most Republicans don’t even believe that shit because HURR DURR LAMESTREAM LIBRUL MEDIA FAKE NEWS. That’s how far gone the GOP is these days.

171
IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:14:16pm

Actual leaning Jones now.

172
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:14:53pm

If Moore wins the wingnut gloating will be nauseating.

173
Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:15:05pm

re: #155 danarchy

unfortunately now that it is about 25% in Moore is ahead 53-45.5

About the only positive thing about this is that Birmingham has less than 15% of the votes counted, and Jones is up there 82-16, and the other two urban areas (Montgomery and Mobile) have less than 3% of the votes in. Huntsville has about 25% in and Jones has about a 2000 vote lead there.

174
freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:15:09pm

It’s a nailbiter, as Nate pointed out.

175
freetoken  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:15:59pm

Regarding abortion, I think that’s almost a red herring now.

The hate-right have moved far beyond the abortion issue. They’re in full 12th century atavist mode now.

176
bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:16:09pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

If Moore wins the wingnut gloating will be nauseating.

It has been, they’ll be obnoxious until they die from lack of heathcare in the streets.

177
Targetpractice  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:16:50pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

Except that the Republicans keep winning the ones that count.

Last month showed that, outside of deep-red races where the DNC is actually becoming competitive, the current math is seriously against the GOP. They lost worse this year in VA than they did 4 years ago, when they ran a total whackjob (Cuccinelli) and still came close.

178
Interesting Times  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:17:28pm

:(

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Well, she’s right about the vast majority of white voters there, at any rate…

179
Jebediah, RBG  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:17:36pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

PDR for me….

Physicians Desk Reference?
At least that should bring no liches.

180
goddamnedfrank  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:01pm

The nice thing about this election is that no matter who wins the GOP gets to eat a giant crap sandwich.

181
The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:08pm

re: #161 Jebediah, RBG

The snail busted him out, so…no. There was just a variable that nobody accounted for.

182
IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:08pm

30% in, leaning 75% to Jones

183
plansbandc  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:19pm

So what if they gloat? They will be gloating about electing a child molester, Point it out if you feel like arguing. I don’t. I just block ‘em.

184
ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:28pm

re: #170 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I didn’t say that I didn’t hope for a win; I just didn’t expect one. I felt that Jones had a legitimate chance to pull it off, but in the end, I expected party loyalty to win out over accusations of child molestation. Let’s face it - most Republicans don’t even believe that shit because HURR DURR LAMESTREAM LIBRUL MEDIA FAKE NEWS. That’s how far gone the GOP is these days.

Sorry. Your opening line of “The thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win.” confused me. Sorta sounded like you were saying the thing of it is, we all expected Moore to win.

: )

185
ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:18:36pm

Um… folks?

NYT now saying 75% chance Jones wins, based on where the remaining votes have yet to come in from.

Must not get TOO ahead of myself. Must not get TOO ahead of myself.

186
IngisKahn  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:20:01pm

Ya, things are looking pretty good right now.

187
weave  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:20:25pm

re: #185 ipsos

Um… folks?

NYT now saying 75% chance Jones wins, based on where the remaining votes have yet to come in from.

Must not get TOO ahead of myself. Must not get TOO ahead of myself.

Of course if Jones wins after Moore was ahead for a while, the wingnuts will be screaming fraud…. because there’s no other explanation.

188
Mike Lamb  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:21:16pm

re: #183 plansbandc

So what if they gloat? They will be gloating about electing a child molester, Point it out if you feel like arguing. I don’t. I just block ‘em.

Agree with this. I’m sure that if Moore wins, you’ll see plenty of hot takes like Fleischer’s. But at the end of the day, they will have elected and supported a child molester. That’s says more about the GOP than anything else.

189
scottslemmons  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #183 plansbandc

So what if they gloat? They will be gloating about electing a child molester, Point it out if you feel like arguing. I don’t. I just block ‘em.

Yeah, save copies of every gloat. Save the gloats from pundits and elected officials. Put those on the ads. “Republicans love their child molesters!”

190
ObserverArt  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:21:51pm

re: #185 ipsos

Um… folks?

NYT now saying 75% chance Jones wins, based on where the remaining votes have yet to come in from.

Must not get TOO ahead of myself. Must not get TOO ahead of myself.

You know, I’m to the point where I really don’t care what the Times says. Sadly. But that is just me.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:22:42pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

You know, I’m to the point where I really don’t care what the Times says. Sadly. But that is just me.

Love or hate Nate Silver, but when it comes to political races, his methodologies are usually pretty sound. I imagine it’s probably within the error bars for him right now, though.

192
The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:22:44pm

If Moore loses he’s going to become another permanent fixture in the wingnut lifestyle brand. Always outraged, always grifting.

I mean, he’s already both those things, but it will be moreso hereafter.

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ipsos  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:23:31pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

You know, I’m to the point where I really don’t care what the Times says. Sadly. But that is just me.

These are the Times number-crunchers. It’s a very long way from their statistics analysis to the crud on the Op-Ed pages.

194
Interesting Times  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:24:21pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

The nice thing about this election is that no matter who wins the GOP gets to eat a giant crap sandwich.

But here’s the thing - their debased base loves the crap sandwich, the thicker and stinkier the better:

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The most horrifying message a moore win would send is that there exists no candidate grotesque enough for GOPers to reject (in fact, grotesquerie seems to be viewed as a feature as opposed to bug, as in, durr hurr piss off teh libtards!!!11!!) Ergo, all the GOPers already in power have to do to keep their electoral college wins is suppress enough of the sane and decent people vote.

There’s a fuckton of messages I’d like GOPers to get, but that ain’t one of them.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:25:32pm

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

The snail busted him out, so…no. There was just a variable that nobody accounted for.

Shit…right you are. I’ll have to pick another book I guess.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:25:59pm

re: #194 Interesting Times

To that tweet, white women in Alabama probably voted for whomever their husbands told them to vote for.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:27:49pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

And this is why I had no problem with the criticism of the Omaha candidate Bernie strongly backed. Pro-choice values matter from the largest city/state to smallest area. In fact, I think it’s more important in red states and regions given how red areas attempt to limit choice locally.

And Heath Mello’s position on abortion was mischaracterised.

Good thing Jean Stothert got reëlected. She is trying to strip the occupancy permit of Planned Parenthood.

Least we didn’t get that damn Democrat.

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MsJ  Dec 12, 2017 • 6:39:53pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

If Moore wins the wingnut gloating will be nauseating.

And there responses will always be, congratulations, you elected a child molester. You showed you Republican family values. Good on you.


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