A Tiny Desk Concert by an Amazing French-Cuban Duo: Ibeyi

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Feb. 7, 2018 | Felix Contreras — The twin sisters in Ibeyi started their turn behind the Tiny Desk by singing an invocation of a West African Yoruba deity.

They come by their connection to the Afro-Cuban culture by way of their late father, Miguel “Anga” Diaz, an in-demand Cuban percussionist who was part of a vanguard musicians who reinvigorated Cuban music before he died prematurely at age 45 in 2006. The sisters, Lisa-Kaindé and Naomi Díaz, carry that calling in their DNA, and how they’ve manifested it into their own art is nothing short of amazing.

As you see in this video, the twins (Ibeyi means ‘twins” in Yoruban) perform their music with the batá drums associated with Yoruban sacred music and their elaborate vocal arrangements channel the call-and-response of traditional African music. The melding of their voices when they harmonize can be breathtaking, but the same can be said about the messages behind their songs, themes that inspire both inward introspection and celebrations of life.

The sisters truly have a magic that transcends cultures and languages. I watched them lead a sold-out crowd at Washington D.C.’s 9:30 Club through a Yoruban chant, and it was mind-blowing. Imagine that magical intensity in the small confines of NPR Music’s offices and you get an idea of how transfixed we were.

And now you can experience that yourself. Enjoy.

SET LIST

“Oddudua”
“Deathless”
“Valé”
“Transmission/Michaelion”
MUSICIANS
Lisa-Kaindé Diaz, Naomi Díaz

CREDITS

Producers: Felix Contreras, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Alyse Young; Assistant Editor: Alyse Young; Production Assistants: Salvatore Maicki, Julien Bourdin; Photo: Jennifer Kerrigan/NPR

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359 comments

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Charmingly Persistent  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:02:43pm

Over on Balloon Juice there is a post discussing what the emblematic music of various generations is. I am not all that interested in that, since I think “generations” are far too big to say anything about the people in them. I mean I am technically a baby boomer, but given that my parents were born during WWII, it really doesn’t make sense to lump me in with the glut of kids born right after WWII. And I am certainly not GenX either.

So what I am going to do, and I hope others will also, is pick music that is emblematic of my own coming of age. Not necessarily the music that I listened to the most but the stuff that dug into my psyche and changed me.

So, though I listened to way more Tom Petty and The Police, I am going to say David Bowie. I was a cishet teenager when he burst into my conciousness, but the message of mutable gender and sexuality, and the implications for being who you are instead of fitting in, changed me. I was super supportive of gay people from the beginning, and once I heard about transsexuals, and later other gender/sexuality/kink identities and preferences, I was right there too.

I think it eventually helped me understand race issues better as well (though I still need a ton of work on that). I was raised in a super white environment, so I had the white-liberal-neighborhood understanding of race - all the black people were exactly like us in terms of speech, clothes, education, jobs, houses - and so it was easy not to be racist. When I moved into a black neighborhood in Los Angeles I realized that it gets much harder when (1) you are outnumbered; and (2) the black people have their own culture instead of fitting into white-liberal-neighborhood’s. I wonder if people a bit younger than me who grew up litening to rap were better able to understand race from the beginning?

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:09:26pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Over on Balloon Juice there is a post discussing what the emblematic music of various generations is. I am not all that interested in that, since I think “generations” are far too big to say anything about the people in them. I mean I am technically a baby boomer, but given that my parents were born during WWII, it really doesn’t make sense to lump me in with the glut of kids born right after WWII. And I am certainly not GenX either.

So what I am going to do, and I hope others will also, is pick music that is emblematic of my own coming of age. Not necessarily the music that I listened to the most but the stuff that dug into my psyche and changed me.

So, though I listened to way more Tom Petty and The Police, I am going to say David Bowie. I was a cishet teenager when he burst into my conciousness, but the message of mutable gender and sexuality, and the implications for being who you are instead of fitting in, changed me. I was super supportive of gay people from the beginning, and once I heard about transsexuals, and later other gender/sexuality/kink identities and preferences, I was right there too.

I think it eventually helped me understand race issues better as well (though I still need a ton of work on that). I was raised in a super white environment, so I had the white-liberal-neighborhood understanding of race - all the black people were exactly like us in terms of speech, clothes, education, jobs, houses - and so it was easy not to be racist. When I moved into a black neighborhood in Los Angeles I realized that it gets much harder when (1) you are outnumbered; and (2) the black people have their own culture instead of fitting into white-liberal-neighborhood’s. I wonder if people a bit younger than me who grew up litening to rap were better able to understand race from the beginning?

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

They’d certainly love my 13 year old, whose Spottify list is full of jazz and swing.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:10:33pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:11:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:15:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:16:11pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:16:16pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Over on Balloon Juice there is a post discussing what the emblematic music of various generations is. I am not all that interested in that, since I think “generations” are far too big to say anything about the people in them…. I wonder if people a bit younger than me who grew up litening to rap were better able to understand race from the beginning?….

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

Grew up singing Bach and Gregorian badly. “My” first music was Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Sandy Nelson (what my guardian called “jungle music” in her better moments).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:17:23pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

After the Las Vegas mass shooting attack, Wayne Allyn Root tweeted that it was “a coordinated Muslim terror attack,” and claimed there were shooters at multiple hotels. This is who Trump’s listening to.

People like WAR learned that they could come out shooting from the hip with such allegations and face no negative consequences if they turn out to be unfounded.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:17:47pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

Hmmmm…I need to think on this a bit more. MTV is in the equation for me. I loved music videos and all the visual interpretations we got exposed to.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:20:04pm
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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:21:24pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:21:24pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

My sister was totally into Beatlemania but lost interest in them when they went psychedelic and long haired. So I sort of lost track of them until I was a teenager.

To me (born in 1959) the 60’s was already a mythical lost era when I “discovered” it: most of the major defining bands of the era were split up or in retirement, coming out occasionally with a project to help finance their drug habits and generally disappointing.

We were into prog-rock, then I discovered people who got me into Miles Davis and progressive jazz rock, which led me into post-bop jazz.

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allegro  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:22:24pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

My coming of age music was Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones, MoTown, Simon and Garfunkel, Mamas & Papas to prog rock, CSNY, Zeppelin, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull… too many to list.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:24:27pm

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sister was totally into Beatlemania but lost interest in them when they went psychedelic and long haired. So I sort of lost track of them until I was a teenager.

To me (born in 1959) the 60’s was already a mythical lost era when I “discovered it”: most of the major defining bands of the era were split up or in retirement, coming out occasionally with a project to help finance their drug habits and generally disappointing.

We were into prog-rock, then I discovered people who got me into Miles Davis and progressive jazz rock, which led me into post-bop jazz.

First time I heard a NYC radio annoucer spin ‘Concierto de Aranuez” from Sketches of Spain, I thought he said ‘Concierto de Aaron Weiss’.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:25:05pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

It’s true, I was a hippie. Before I got into jazz, my main formative music was by Bob Dylan, Neil Young, CSNY, Joni Mitchell, Sly and the Family Stone, the Jefferson Airplane, Yes, and other musicians from that era.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:25:52pm

I was a fan of Stanley Clarke before I knew that Charles played with him…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:26:42pm

Oh, I forgot the English Invasion. Also the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Moody Blues, Cream (a HUGE influence).

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:27:06pm

I was catching up with some of the last thread after getting back from a friend’s house. I saw some mention of this interview and I didn’t follow any of the tweets to see if the video was up in the tweet links.

I heard this while mixing some plaster and I couldn’t stop what I was doing to watch…but I sure wanted to toss some of my Durabond at the damn TV listening to it.

Thought others might want to hear Jill’s spin. I always thought she was arrogant and a wack job. It’s worse than I thought because I’ve never actually seen her much in video form.

Iframe

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:29:38pm

re: #13 allegro

My coming of age music was Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones, MoTown, Simon and Garfunkel, Mamas & Papas to prog rock, CSNY, Zeppelin, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull… too many to list.

Elvis Costello
The Jam
The Clash
The Ramones
Kate Bush
Joe Jackson
Richard Thompson
Dead Kennedy’s
Nick Lowe
Rockpile
Warren Zavon
XTC
The Slickie Boys (who probably weren’t known much beyond the DC-Ocean City (MD) area)
…….. and many more.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:30:56pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Mine is somewhat interesting. Remember that as a kid/teen, I grew up in a severely restrictive Christian household. We listened to contemporary Christian music, “oldies” (basically 1950’s-1970’s), or later on, country. But when I was in middle and high school, I got exposed to Nirvana, Green Day, and other soft rock music. At the time, I wasn’t really into it, but it made a bit of a personal comeback after I moved up here to be with Mrs. Fish. Really, understanding that there was “heathen” music that wasn’t actually terrible or all about devil worship was one of the early indicators of the direction my life was about to take.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:31:36pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Grew up singing Bach and Gregorian badly. “My” first music was Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Sandy Nelson (what my guardian called “jungle music” in her better moments).

My lifetime of rebellion against parental norms was heralded by an appreciation of Chuck Berry…circa 1988.

But then again, I lived in, I dunno, like if Wes Anderson did a Kafka novel set in one of those generation vaults from the video game Fallout?

Most important to character formation, hm….

Public Enemy, because they gave me first lessons in being pissed off for good reason.
Fiona Apple, for giving me the first inkling that emotions were accessible things.
Tom Waits and David Bowie in college—admittedly “found” in the same way that one goes back to knock down a 7-10 split—for different angles on the same open joy of eccentricity.

…with honorable mention to a great deal of grunge and heavy metal that did the sausage-making work of day-to-day coping.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:32:23pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

I am something of a pastiche between myself and my father musically. My dad was born in ‘53 and so growing up I listened to a lot of 60s and 70s rock and pop music: Beach Boys, Don Maclean, Eric Clapton, Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, CCR, The Eagles, Roy Orbison and such. I was born in the early 80s and didn’t start to develop my own musical tastes until the late 80s/early 90s so, like most of that generation, I listened to a lot of hip hop and then transitioned to grunge/alternative followed by a rock phase in my early college years.

I still love my dad’s music though. Not only because it’s great music but also because it brings back great memories of him (he’s still alive but we live cross country so we don’t get to hang out much anymore).

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:35:35pm

re: #19 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That was my children’s coming of age music, though they were more into Cyndi Lauper, B52s, and Bonnie Tyler.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:37:25pm

You know, I really love seeing the response to Black Panther. I think just about every black person I know has seen it along with many of the other people I know.

But it saddens me that a lot of them feel it has taken this long for them to be able to go see a movie that treats them exactly like white people get treated in most of the other movies that get released.

That they’re experiencing something for the first time that I’ve taken for granted for years…it’s mind blowing to think about. It’s too damn bad it’s taken us 50 years since the Civil Rights Era to get this far.

I hope this movie is the start of a shift for Hollywood. It’s about damned time.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:38:49pm
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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:39:07pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

coming of age musically - only. because over time the library deepened and widened
and not including all the music my parents played

allman brothers et al
marshall tucker
charlie daniels (back then)
the doors
anything motown
eric clapton with anybody

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:40:04pm

Totally OT:

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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:40:26pm

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was a fan of Stanley Clarke before I knew that Charles played with him…

ditto
in fact i learned that charles was he, or he was charles, like 3 months ago

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:40:29pm

For the record, we had amazingly cool nuns at our boarding reform school. The Friday night movies included Rock Around the Clock and Don’t Knock the Rock.

They did have some dark suspicions about the significance of pegged pants.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:41:51pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Jackson Browne.

Because I was on restriction for a month when I was 15 & listened & cried for that

w h o l e

month.

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:46:09pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:47:54pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

You know, I really love seeing the response to Black Panther. I think just about every black person I know has seen it along with many of the other people I know.

But it saddens me that a lot of them feel it has taken this long for them to be able to go see a movie that treats them exactly like white people get treated in most of the other movies that get released.

That they’re experiencing something for the first time that I’ve taken for granted for years…it’s mind blowing to think about. It’s too damn bad it’s taken us 50 years since the Civil Rights Era to get this far.

I hope this movie is the start of a shift for Hollywood. It’s about damned time.

The 4th Marvel Superhero movie had a black lead character back in 1998.

Can you believe they went with Howard The Duck as their first foray into modern film?

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:49:03pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

I can’t count anything I listened to in high school. The extent of our music was on the local pop music station, or the ’50s folk music and classical my dad preferred. I didn’t have anything like a musical coming-of-age ‘til college, and that meant the better class of hair metal, namely Def Leppard, followed by the band that killed hair metal, Guns ‘N Roses.

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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:50:36pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Jackson Browne.

Because I was on restriction for a month when I was 15 & listened & cried for that

w h o l e

month.

jackson browne

eventually i started reading the album covers and stopped making assumptions.
one of my favorite gregg allman songs is “These days”. Jackson browne wrote it. and i always thought…

another fave was Mountain Jam. Two whole sides of the double album Eat a Peach though recorded as part of the At Fillmore East concert. It’s a jam. no words, no singing.

30 odd years later i learn that donovan, yes, that donovan wrote it. (and there’s lyrics). i always thought, ok i dont know what i always thought

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:51:11pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The 4th Marvel Superhero movie had a black lead character back in 1998.

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Can you believe they went with Howard The Duck as their first foray into modern film?

The Tor publishing website had an excellent writeup of the Blade movies just this past week.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:51:26pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The 4th Marvel Superhero movie had a black lead character back in 1998.

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Can you believe they went with Howard The Duck as their first foray into modern film?

My son dressed as Blade when he went trick-or-treating in 99. He was four. The armband would extend out a (plastic) knife.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:54:28pm

re: #25 JordanRules

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A TV analogy.

Did guns* just jump the shark?

*General term to fit the theme. What I mean is did the thinking of guns right up to 2:30 (or so) on February 13th, 2018 just hit a wall and run into a resistance it has not seen before?

I get the impression it may have. Something is up. Maybe a generation that is going to change it when they get the power. But something changed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:56:14pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

A TV analogy.

Did guns* just jump the shark?

*General term to fit the theme. What I mean is did the thinking of guns right up to 2:30 (or so) on February 13th, 2018 just hit a wall and run into a resistance it has not seen before?

I get the impression it may have. Something is up. Maybe a generation that is going to change it when they get the power. But something changed.

The anti-gun movement is getting faces. Columbine happened before the Internet took off. The schoolkids at Sandy Hook were too young to get cyberactive about it, but these high school kids have decided that enough is enough and are ready to stand up and be identified as saying so.

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:57:07pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

First time I heard a NYC radio annoucer spin ‘Concierto de Aranuez” from Sketches of Spain, I thought he said ‘Concierto de Aaron Weiss’.

It is, of course, a very personnel thing, but the Adagio may be the most moving piece of music I have ever heard.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:57:27pm

The half-life of wingnut derp on Facebook is very long.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:58:46pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Jackson Browne.

Because I was on restriction for a month when I was 15 & listened & cried for that

w h o l e

month.

Won’t press on what it takes to get grounded for a w h o l e month. For all practical purposes, between the reform school and the seminary, I was grounded from age 9 to 19.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:58:50pm

re: #40 freetoken

The half-life of wingnut derp on Facebook is very long.

I delete almost all political posts, be the pro or anti-Trump. If I want politics, I go to political blog sties. For me, FB is about keeping up with friends and family and what they are up to.

And I do NOT use it as a source of any sort of news.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:59:07pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Before Bowie came on the scene I remember all the build up for Jobriath. Billboards, magazines, radio spots touting him as “The Next Big Thing” who openly admitted that he was gay.

The backlash to the publicity campaign was brutal.

Now Jobriath is just a footnote in a trivia game. But I remember when he gave a concert in Pittsburgh that was no holds barred. Only The Sex Pistols first concert in Homestead PA (which I atteneded) and Wendy O Williams and the Plasmatics topped Jobriath in outrageousness. Jobriath in outrageous costumes prancing about—well my college buddies never saw anything like that. In comparison, David Bowie coming to town was as mainstreamed as Frank Sinatra!

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2018 • 2:59:30pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The 4th Marvel Superhero movie had a black lead character back in 1998.

[Embedded content]

Can you believe they went with Howard The Duck as their first foray into modern film?

Thing is, being pre-MCU, Blade and its sequels weren’t really marketed as Marvel movies, they were star vehicles for Wesley Snipes; at the time, hardly anyone outside the Comic Book Man set even knew they were based off of comics, unlike with Spawn (which also featured a black protaganist). Marvel was too busy selling off movie rights to its characters in order to stay alive in the 90s (see X-Men and Spider-Man for that as well).

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:00:27pm

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s been a jam packed 48 hours given the Russian indictments, a Gates plea deal pending, and the fact that the NRA/GOP continue to press for more guns in schools, not anything like reasonable gun control.

The GOP/NRA (and they’re interchangeable at this point).

Trump’s listening to extremists and the NRA counts as such.

Fox is peddling extremists who think that the solution to mass shootings is to put even more guns into the situation.

These dumbasses are dangerous.

Why? Because they always seem to forget that more guns doesn’t make anyone safer.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:00:53pm

re: #39 lizardofid

It is, of course, a very personnel thing, but the Adagio may be the most moving piece of music I have ever heard.

Very much. Worked back from Miles to Rodrigo, and Miles is deeper.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:01:43pm

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:01:58pm

I went through

Big Band music (from my mom),
Ancient ‘Hillbilly’ music (from my dad),
The First Wave of rock and roll, via my older brother and sisters,
Surf music,
Motown and Southern Soul,
British Invasion.
Heavy psychedelic rock (not too much of the Dead, though),
Glam,
Prog,
70s Arena Rock,
Hair Metal,
Grunge,
Indie Rock,
Hip hop (kinda)

I count them all because they were all milestones and had ‘coming of age’ aspects of their own, and they all contributed to what I consider pretty wide tastes nowadays.

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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:02:33pm

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The anti-gun movement is getting faces. Columbine happened before the Internet took off. The schoolkids at Sandy Hook were too young to get cyberactive about it, but these high school kids have decided that enough is enough and are ready to stand up and be identified as saying so.

and they have real time first hand video of themselves being attacked

these are not surrogates or parents or some kind of substitutes

they are legitimate. they were the targets

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:02:46pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

The Who
The Clash
Patti Smith Group
The Replacements
Husker Du
Blue Oyster Cult

Can you see the connection they all have?

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:05:27pm

re: #50 William Lewis

The Who
The Clash
Patti Smith Group
The Replacements
Husker Du
Blue Oyster Cult

Can you see the connection they all have?

The letter H!

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:06:54pm

Oops, forgot Punk/New Wave. That, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:07:11pm

re: #51 scottslemmons

The letter H!

Blue Hoyster Cult?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:07:42pm

re: #50 William Lewis

The Who
The Clash
Patti Smith Group
The Replacements
Husker Du
Blue Oyster Cult

Can you see the connection they all have?

Yes, according to my Aunt’s pastor they all play that Godless Jungle Music…

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:07:57pm

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Blue Hoyster Cult?

Culth, clearly.

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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:08:26pm

re: #45 lawhawk

a quibble: “So, the GOP/NRA is going to go with the good guy with a gun in every classroom will prevent mass shootings?”

no, not prevent or deter.

to be there to respond to the shooting that’s already started
all their solutions are predicated on shooting being inevitable

they make no suggestions, offer no solutions that would prevent

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dangerman  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:09:07pm

sorry - gotta go

excellent remaining sunday to one and all

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:09:08pm

re: #51 scottslemmons

The letter H!

< SMACK >

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:10:03pm

re: #56 dangerman

They don’t want to make America more safe. They want to sell guns. To them, America is about selling stuff.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:10:45pm

re: #48 makeitstop

I went through

Big Band music (from my mom),
Ancient ‘Hillbilly’ music (from my dad),
The First Wave of rock and roll, via my older brother and sisters,
Surf music,
Motown and Southern Soul,
British Invasion.
Heavy psychedelic rock (not too much of the Dead, though),
Glam,
Prog,
70s Arena Rock,
Hair Metal,
Grunge,
Indie Rock,
Hip hop (kinda)

I count them all because they were all milestones and had ‘coming of age’ aspects of their own, and they all contributed to what I consider pretty wide tastes nowadays.

Right there with you.

My dad had old big band records in 78 RPM and some old classic radio/record player units.

My one older brother bought one of the very first stereo units back in like ‘63 or so and he was into dixieland and new orleans style jazz and even had some Jimmy Smith organ jazz albums.

One other brother and my mother were into country of all kinds. From cry in your beer to Hank style to Buck Owens.

The brother closest to me in age started out on surf music and then transitioned into early rock and roll.

Then I also lived close to some cousins and heard all the Brit Invasion stuff.

By that time I was on my own and really listening from say Beatles Rubber Soul and everything in that era on.

And I still try to dig up all the new while revisiting what I like of the past.

And I am still trying to write new stuff of my own…just don’t have the others to work with like in the past. Sigh.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:13:24pm

If anyone believes that Trump is ever going to meet with those students, I have some Trump casino chips to sell you.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:15:21pm

Say what you will, this amplifies the march big time.

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Charmingly Persistent  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:15:27pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon 🌹

Before Bowie came on the scene I remember all the build up for Jobriath. Billboards, magazines, radio spots touting him as “The Next Big Thing” who openly admitted that he was gay.

The backlash to the publicity campaign was brutal.

Now Jobriath is just a footnote in a trivia game. But I remember when he gave a concert in Pittsburgh that was no holds barred. Only The Sex Pistols first concert in Homestead PA (which I atteneded) and Wendy O Williams and the Plasmatics topped Jobriath in outrageousness. Jobriath in outrageous costumes prancing about—well my college buddies never saw anything like that. In comparison, David Bowie coming to town was as mainstreamed as Frank Sinatra!

I never heard of Jobraith before today! But I was a young teenager when David Bowie was being fabulous so I think I’m a few years behind you. Anyway it wasn’t being gay so much - we all knew about Rocky Horror Picture Show, and I think Elton John was out, or at least rumored about(?) It was the whole package.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:15:41pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Perhaps too big a statement, but:

I think there’s a basic conceptual alarm bell that should be ringing when people push that idea that there’s some sort of fixed-identity “good guy” who can be trusted to handle lethal force.

Because the shadowed side of that notion is that The Elect are correct by virtue of their status, not because of the specifics of the situation; and what’s occluded is how the very power assigned corrupts…over and over, historically: to someone with a guillotine, every problem suddenly has a neck.

This can already be seen in the exercises of rhetoric surrounding shootings of young black men—in infinite permutations of unarmed, mentally ill, passive, non-resisting, simply not doing something threatening enough to merit death—and the excuses made for why it’s always reasonable, always self-defense.

I generally duck the gun debate at the level of bans, but on this board the one thing I have argued about is the watershed nature of Trayvon Martin: the way that his death brought out elaborate justifications of a grown man following a teenager while armed, the solipsism in people were willing to declare that “threat” suddenly began after George Zimmerman had followed a teenage boy in his car, then on foot.

I keep saying that what we’re seeing is a re-assertion of a tiered social structure, and the legitimate use of lethal force is one of the societal elements that is very clearly earmarked as “for some, not for others” in a way that’s almost Animal Farm in its naked hypocrisy.

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:16:05pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

If anyone believes that Trump is ever going to meet with those students, I have some Trump casino chips to sell you.

“I think they’ll be very mean to me, very mean, not nice kids at all. And they’re not voters, none of them. Much more useful to meet real Americans at my rally this weekend in rural Alabama.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:16:52pm

OK, now is the time for today’s FOOD PIC!

Lunch was at Label’s Table Deli on Pico Boulevard here in Los Angeles and it was their Sky Hi Pastrami & Slaw!

Rusak’s Pastrami, Imported Swiss, Slaw and Real Russian Dressing with Horseradish!
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:18:24pm

re: #64 The Ghost of a Flea

One night at a local boozer here in Texas, all the tv’s were turned on to Zimmerman’s verdict. The entire place erupted into cheers like they won the World Series or something when the words “Not guilty” were said.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:19:13pm

re: #56 dangerman

It wont prevent.

It wont deter.

It will do nothing of the sort.

The GOP/NRA are okay with training thousands of teachers at great cost even though these same GOP/NRA wont be bothered to provide teachers with the basics to teach students, and force teachers to pay out of pocket for basics in the classroom. Suddenly they’re going to open the treasury to pay for guns, ammo, and training?

Nope. This is just more bullshit from the GOP/NRA. Goose sales and get rubes falling for this nonsense.

Every time anyone looks at the issue, the shooter always has the initiative. The shooter will get the drop on even the most well trained people because they get to shoot first. After all, Reagan was surrounded by Secret Service and police, and it didn’t prevent or even deter a shooter.

School shootings aren’t deterred by police presence. And having more guns means more people have to be cleared before help gets in and the body count goes up as live saving care is delayed.

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:19:23pm

re: #62 JordanRules

Say what you will, this amplifies the march big time.

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Yeah, no kidding — Bieber has the second-largest number of Twitter followers.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:21:54pm

re: #68 lawhawk

So the teachers will all have their training paid for, their weapon paid for, their ammo paid for, their insurance paid for, and they all get a raise for the extra work too, right?

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:22:12pm

re: #62 JordanRules

Say what you will, this amplifies the march big time.

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The same kids, in the same pose, were on Face The Nation: dailykos.com.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:22:37pm

re: #63 Charmingly Persistent

I never heard of Jobraith before today! But I was a young teenager when David Bowie was being fabulous so I think I’m a few years behind you. Anyway it wasn’t being gay so much - we all knew about Rocky Horror Picture Show, and I think Elton John was out, or at least rumored about(?) It was the whole package.

Fun fact: Jobriath’s real name was Bruce Campbell.

And Jobriath was not exactly ‘before’ Bowie. DB had released three albums (including Ziggy Stardust in 1972) prior to Jobriath’s album coming out in 1973.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:23:24pm

re: #71 Belafon

And MTP, and This Week too.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:24:39pm

re: #62 JordanRules

Say what you will, this amplifies the march big time.

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Charmingly Persistent  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:25:00pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Fun fact: Jobriath’s real name was Bruce Campbell.

King of Thieves!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:25:39pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Fun fact: Jobriath’s real name was Bruce Campbell.

And Jobriath was not exactly ‘before’ Bowie. DB had released three albums (including Ziggy Stardust in 1972) prior to Jobriath’s album coming out in 1973.

Ah, I found a clip of Jobriath on You Tube.

Jobriath I’maman

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:29:50pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah, I found a clip of Jobriath on You Tube.

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I remember watching that clip when it aired and thinking ‘Good band, singer’s a little out there.’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:33:32pm

re: #77 makeitstop

I remember watching that clip when it aired and thinking ‘Good band, singer’s a little out there.’

That’s a real understatement!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:35:40pm

My oldest bro—8 years older—was really into music, so I heard all his stuff when I was in elementary school (the usuals like Beatles, Stones, Dylan, Three Dog Night, GFR, Deep Purple, etc., etc.). But I also loved random albums we had (Rolf Harris, Herb Alpert, Bernstein does Peter and the Wolf) and my sister’s albums like The Carpenters and Carole King. But the big turning point for me was when my brother started to come home from college with tons of promo albums from his DJ job in the mid to late ’70s: all the NYC stuff like Television, Talking Heads, etc., and Ohio stuff like Pere Ubu and Devo, and of course Brit stuff like The Only Ones, Echo and the Bunnymen, Elvis Costello, Sex Pistols, etc. Too much to mention. It was a great time for music.

I sure appreciate being exposed to new stuff here regularly. I just don’t seek it out myself as much as I used to.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:37:23pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Any idea what show that was that Gladys was doing the hosting or intros for?

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:39:28pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s a real understatement!

A few years later, we got next-level ‘out there’ - Klaus Nomi.

Klaus Nomi_The Cold Song (live)

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:39:55pm

re: #80 JordanRules

Any idea what show that was that Gladys was doing the hosting or intros for?

Midnight Special, IIRC.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:49:02pm

re: #79 Barefoot Grin

My parents were country fans but had their hay day with 70s rock. Deep purple and Boston and led zeppelin.

Got into that and grunge and metal when I was young. It progressed to more extreme metal with a nice helping of classic rock via the Canadian stations we receive.

Been looking for good music all my live ever since.
Fun fact: I got my dad, a huge country and reba McIntyre fan, into helmet with the album in the meantime. I got my mom in to soundgarden and weird al yankovic with superunknown anf greatest hits respectively on a road trip.

Parents were supportive of all music I listened to, but didnt like the language. That was their only complaint ever.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:51:42pm

My parents controlled the radio when I was a kid, and it stayed on country. When they went into a store one day, my brother and I set all the presets to one of the rock stations in town. They weren’t thrilled.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:51:45pm

re: #81 makeitstop

The man makes the Jacobian-ruff space opera puppet thing work for him. Gotta respect that.

eta: how did I not drop a Jacobian ruff reference?

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Amory Blaine  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:56:57pm

Was just pleasantly surprised by an Amazon delivery of a fuel injector wire connector (My other one was chewed up by a mouse). Put it on and everything seems good so far. No evidence yet (fingers crossed) of the little bugger chewing up other wires. Small victories FTW!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 3:59:22pm

My first encounter with the term “Rock and Roll” was a Donald Duck comic book about 1954. Donald and Daisy assumed a stiff-armed missionary position and rocked and rolled. Even then they attributed it as ‘new, from Hollywood’. In months to come, Mad Magazine made all clear.

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wrenchwench  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:00:46pm

The desk may be tiny, but the office has grown into a fricken auditorium.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:01:26pm

re: #83 nowherenorth2

My parents were country fans but had their hay day with 70s rock. Deep purple and Boston and led zeppelin.

Got into that and grunge and metal when I was young. It progressed to more extreme metal with a nice helping of classic rock via the Canadian stations we receive.

Been looking for good music all my live ever since.
Fun fact: I got my dad, a huge country and reba McIntyre fan, into helmet with the album in the meantime. I got my mom in to soundgarden and weird al yankovic with superunknown anf greatest hits respectively on a road trip.

Parents were supportive of all music I listened to, but didnt like the language. That was their only complaint ever.

The benefit of being the youngest is that my parents had already fought and lost the battles with my brother over things like language/sexuality stuff. A downside (that seemed an upside at the time) was that I enhanced my listening experience with a fair amount of Colombian Gold.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:03:40pm

re: #85 The Ghost of a Flea

The man makes the Jacobian-ruff space opera puppet thing work for him. Gotta respect that.

eta: how did I not drop a Jacobian ruff reference?

Nomi made an SNL appearance with Bowie.

David Bowie & Klaus Nomi - The Man Who Sold The World

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:04:09pm
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Semper Fi  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:04:52pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, now is the time for today’s FOOD PIC!

Lunch was at Label’s Table Deli on Pico Boulevard here in Los Angeles and it was their Sky Hi Pastrami & Slaw!

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A good pastrami sandwich, just like that, is my all-time favorite and the photo really tugged at my taste buds. Unfortunately, these days, heartburn kicks-in even before I can finish the sandwich.
You seem to enjoy the same kind of food as I. It is the best IMO.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:08:44pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

The desk may be tiny, but the office has grown into a fricken auditorium.

Once someone shoehorns in a Steinway, the floodgates are open.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:09:56pm

re: #90 makeitstop

Nomi made an SNL appearance with Bowie.

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Video

Shameful or shameless admission? 50% shameful by weight admission:

I’m aware of the Nomi-Bowie collaboration because it’s part of extended joke on the cartoon called The Venture Brothers in which David Bowie is the secret leader of an organization of supervillains, and his various collaborators turn up as super-powered flunkies.

[The same show recently had a parody mash-up of the Warhol’s Factory and the DC Comics Legion of Doom (the one with the Vader helmet base in the swamp, a la Superfriends). It’s pretty damn entertaining.]

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:10:08pm

re: #89 Barefoot Grin

Have a twin brother. He is more of the kid rock type….

The thing with my parents was that they were super suportive and sensible. Very odd sometimes. My dad was the one who got me into video games because he bought a Nintendo and every major system until ps2. He had a comp and internet when they firdt became main stream.

Progressive is the word I would use.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:11:06pm

All those books are excellent for acoustics.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:11:29pm

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

Favorite adult swim show ever.

O.s.I. parody was great ( making fun kf the g.I. now theme)

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BlueGrl21  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:18:02pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Over on Balloon Juice there is a post discussing what the emblematic music of various generations is. I am not all that interested in that, since I think “generations” are far too big to say anything about the people in them. I mean I am technically a baby boomer, but given that my parents were born during WWII, it really doesn’t make sense to lump me in with the glut of kids born right after WWII. And I am certainly not GenX either.

So what I am going to do, and I hope others will also, is pick music that is emblematic of my own coming of age. Not necessarily the music that I listened to the most but the stuff that dug into my psyche and changed me.

So, though I listened to way more Tom Petty and The Police, I am going to say David Bowie. I was a cishet teenager when he burst into my conciousness, but the message of mutable gender and sexuality, and the implications for being who you are instead of fitting in, changed me. I was super supportive of gay people from the beginning, and once I heard about transsexuals, and later other gender/sexuality/kink identities and preferences, I was right there too.

I think it eventually helped me understand race issues better as well (though I still need a ton of work on that). I was raised in a super white environment, so I had the white-liberal-neighborhood understanding of race - all the black people were exactly like us in terms of speech, clothes, education, jobs, houses - and so it was easy not to be racist. When I moved into a black neighborhood in Los Angeles I realized that it gets much harder when (1) you are outnumbered; and (2) the black people have their own culture instead of fitting into white-liberal-neighborhood’s. I wonder if people a bit younger than me who grew up litening to rap were better able to understand race from the beginning?

So, what do other people see as their coming of age, figuring out who you are, influence music?

It’s a total cliche, but Nirvana, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” I was born in 1972 and that hit when I was 18. Damn. I can still hear that opening guitar riff, then that drum beat and the dirty, angry music with Kurt Cobain yelling about this furious ennui we were all feeling.

That song is it for me.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:18:04pm

re: #97 nowherenorth2

It’s brilliant. We’ve been queried about formative music, but The Venture Brothers—when it chooses to do thoughtful reflection—is actually my coping mechanism for laughing at, and thus dealing with, how fucking crazy my childhood was.

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Swampwitch  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:19:47pm

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

Big fat upding for Venture Brothers mention. I’m old enough to have watched Jonny Quest first run…and dog how I hated it. Venture Brothers is the greatest. Only thing that would make it better is if they could get Tim Matheson to voice Action Johnny.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:21:43pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

I hear brocks voice in my head at work because there are definitely office situations more in tune with the venture compound than anything.

Also, I quote the henchmen A lot.

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Interesting Times  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:24:34pm

Sometimes you need juxtapositions to fully put things in proper perspective:

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:24:56pm

re: #101 nowherenorth2

The show has infected my language.

For years I couldn’t figure out where the Henchman 21 “Dude!” as interjection entered my lexicon. “Clumped up like a JV soccer team” crops up on a regular basis, too.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:25:43pm

re: #98 BlueGrl21

It’s a total cliche, but Nirvana, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” I was born in 1972 and that hit when I was 18. Damn. I can still hear that opening guitar riff, then that drum beat and the dirty, angry music with Kurt Cobain yelling about this furious ennui we were all feeling.

That song is it for me.

Oh, and with the group I came from, Nine Inch Nails. Pretty Hate Machine came out my senior year of high school. That led to Marilyn Manson, KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, and others. I missed grunge and went industrial instead.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:26:38pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

The one that I hear A lot is the conversation between hunter gathers and Brock during a jet flight.

Also, in the second season when the henchmen are talking, and one gets compared to ray romano dur to his voice, and the other singing orchestra sci fi music.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:27:18pm

re: #105 nowherenorth2

“There is no good news! Only bad news and weird news.”

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:27:30pm

re: #104 BlueGrl21

Godflesh?
Big fan of Justin Broadrick

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:28:22pm

re: #106 The Ghost of a Flea

I use the line ” I wanna but some tiny caskets for them and give them a proper funeral” A lot. I mean A lot!

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BlueGrl21  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:29:32pm

re: #107 nowherenorth2

Godflesh?
Big fan of Justin Broadrick

Yep. Have a playlist with a lot of Godflesh on it. My kids are 12 and 15 and there’s still music of mine I don’t play with them in the car.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:29:44pm

The replies are gold.

and dog help us

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:30:02pm

Also, about that Blade movie:

1998 was a vastly different time politically. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Tea Party, no Black Lives Matter.

2018 is a whole other monster. Black Panther is meant for this era.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:30:44pm

re: #109 BlueGrl21

Love his band jesu. Love it. I play that around my 6 year old while we draw. Mostly the album conqueror

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:31:18pm
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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:34:39pm

re: #104 BlueGrl21

Oh, and with the group I came from, Nine Inch Nails. Pretty Hate Machine came out my senior year of high school. That led to Marilyn Manson, KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, and others. I missed grunge and went industrial instead.

Did you see KMFDM on their last tour? A friend of mine played guitar for them last time out.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:35:38pm

This might have some meaning. Daughter2 did not get to see Black Panther. In a small Alabama town (60000 pop, 85/15 to Trump, 22% AA) she couldn’t get in, and the line for the next showing was prohibitive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:37:47pm

re: #113 jaunte

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I won’t be surprised if Bidondi goes down to Parkland and alleges it was a false flag operation for his buddy Asshole Alex!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:38:20pm

re: #95 nowherenorth2

Have a twin brother. He is more of the kid rock type….

The thing with my parents was that they were super suportive and sensible. Very odd sometimes. My dad was the one who got me into video games because he bought a Nintendo and every major system until ps2. He had a comp and internet when they firdt became main stream.

Progressive is the word I would use.

Very cool. My dad is 92 now. He was an Eisenhower republican who finally had it with GWB and in retirement has become very progressive, though when I was a kid he didn’t really know what to make of me or how to talk to me. Still, I had a band in high school and he tolerated/supported that.
Kid Rock? Oh, man, I’m sorry…..

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:38:35pm

Trump met with this insane libertarian over the weekend.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:41:12pm

Although maybe someone who wants armed drones over every school in the country isn’t actually a “libertarian.” Whatever that might be.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:41:20pm

re: #118 jaunte

Two words Wayne: Collateral damage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:42:18pm

re: #118 jaunte

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Trump met with this insane libertarian over the weekend.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:42:18pm

Hey Wayne! Schools have roofs!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:42:55pm

re: #119 jaunte

Although maybe someone who wants armed drones over every school in the country isn’t actually a “libertarian.” Whatever that might be.

No sweat. These would be operated by contracted private firms. Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:44:09pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

“Please sign this release before you send your first grader to school.”

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Interesting Times  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:44:31pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

No sweat. these would be operated by contracted private firms. Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

Isn’t Erik Prince the brother of Betsy DeVos? Self-dealing, nepotistic win-win.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:44:47pm

re: #113 jaunte

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But Chicago!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:45:14pm

re: #124 jaunte

“Please sign this release before you send your first grader to school.”

And you can buy SGLI (Student’s Group Life Insurance) in $100,000 increments at very low cost.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:45:37pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Two words Wayne: Collateral damage.

Who’s gonna pay for the drones?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:45:52pm

re: #118 jaunte

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Trump met with this insane libertarian over the weekend.

insane libertarian is redundant

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:46:02pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

No sweat. these would be operated by contracted private firms. Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

Now just imagine if Droney was hacked by a pissed off kid who wants to get even with the bullies who pick on him…

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:46:04pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

My brother…is…Idk. Hearts on the right place…”good old boy” mentality and loud so he must be “tough” lot of mental health issues though.

My parents started to see me come out of my shell my sophomore year of high school. They stopped arguing and discussing things like politics when I came home with “a peoples history of the us” by zinn and “in the spirit of crazy horse,” which is about A.I.M

They left it to life lessons and thats it. Haha

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:47:29pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

Regarding bands, had multiple. Dad went to at least one show for each, including my joke terrible grind core band called gone the way of all flesh
Just bass and drums and terrible song titles. And alot of swearing.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:47:33pm

“The drone rental company refuses to release the drone today because the school is too close to a fertilizer factory and it’s unsafe.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:48:26pm

re: #129 I Would Prefer Not To

insane libertarian is redundant

Wayne-0 floats way way up in the rarified air with his Objectivist pals in their Laissez Fairyland. He floats so high that his brain cells died from anoxia.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:52:10pm

re: #128 makeitstop

Who’s gonna pay for the drones?

We always have money for drones.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 4:52:35pm

re: #135 bill d. (b.d.)

We always have money for drones.

The wannabe warhawks do so love their techno toys.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:05:41pm

re: #62 JordanRules

Say what you will, this amplifies the march big time.

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I can’t believe I just RT’d Justin Bieber.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:05:50pm

re: #98 BlueGrl21

I’m big into prog rock (ELP, Genesis, Yes, Rush, etc.), but have a thing for heavy metal like Metallica and industrial like NIN. Appreciate all kinds of music from jazz to blues but just can’t do the country music thing.

Only regret is that I couldn’t catch Satriani this weekend in NYC. Had other prior engagement.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:06:38pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

I listened to what my pops listened to for many years and I loved it: Zeppelin, Stones, Beatles, Roy Buchanan, Slade, Queen, Eric Clapton, Grateful Dead. Then I became a rebellious teenager and got loud, The Offspring, Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, NOFX, Rancid, Green Day. Then one day when I was 17 my older pot dealer friend gave me a Frank Zappa CD (Cheap Thrills, he handed it to me and said “It’s yours, you need to listen to this”) and that blew my fuckin’ mind wide open. Now my iTunes has ADD, everything from rap to jazz to funk to reggae to blues to prog rock to classical to jungle techno to…

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:07:35pm

I have a soft spot for Lady Gaga and I think Sturgill Simpson is the greatest country music artist to come along in generations.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:08:42pm

re: #106 The Ghost of a Flea

“There is no good news! Only bad news and weird news.”

Here’s the weird news. Doping. In curling.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:09:27pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

Come to think of it, one of the other bands that really defined my college experience was AC/DC. We put on some of that heavy stuff on our (Christian) college campus when we did a biker-themed open house. It was astonishing how much I enjoyed it. Thunderstruck is still possibly my favorite song ever.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:11:32pm

re: #141 MsJ

Here’s the weird news. Doping. In curling.

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Does it make you skate slower?

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The Major  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:12:39pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

Mine was very eclectic: Al Stewart, Alan Parsons Project, Styx, Commodores, Spandau Ballet, ABC, Wham, INXS, and late romantic Classical (Berlioz, Bartok, Debusey, Tchaikovsky, Ravel, Mahler, Shostakovitch)…

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Amory Blaine  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:13:55pm

I downloaded the #MAKA chrome extension this week. Recommended.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:14:10pm

re: #142 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Come to think of it, one of the other bands that really defined my college experience was AC/DC. We put on some of that heavy stuff on our (Christian) college campus when we did a biker-themed open house. It was astonishing how much I enjoyed it. Thunderstruck is still possibly my favorite song ever.

My favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus Umphrey’s McGee played that song at Red Rocks some years ago. They killed it, they had goddamn FIRE!

Umphrey’s McGee: “Thunderstruck” Red Rocks 6/7/13

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:15:58pm

re: #141 MsJ

Here’s the weird news. Doping. In curling.

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I’ve had it with all of the sweeping enhancing drugs.

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The Major  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:16:00pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Does it make you skate slower?

In curling? Phuleeeze…..

Let David Attenborough explain it to you!

David Attenborough - Olympic Curling

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Mike Lamb  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:17:49pm

Tool…I “vividly” remember being rather drunk late one night at my friend’s house my junior year of high school and seeing the video for “Sober”. I was hooked.

Alice in Chains. Pearl Jam. Rage Against the
Machine. Loved Nirvana “Nirvana”, but didn’t like there follow ups as much.

My freshman year college roommate turned me on to Outkast, Wu Tang, and other hip hop.

Even though all of my faves are 20+ years old, it has aged really well.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:18:54pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Does it make you skate slower?

Slide not skate. And I have no idea. Aerobic exercise would give you the same benefits. With the bonus of being, you know, legal. 🙄

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The Major  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:19:02pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

Now just imagine if Droney was hacked by a pissed off kid who wants to get even with the bullies who pick on him…

Yep. And he decided to spend most of his time in the Gulf States instead of the US (for some obvious reasons….)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:21:05pm

re: #150 MsJ

Slide not skate. And I have no idea. Aerobic exercise would give you the same benefits. With the bonus of being, you know, legal. 🙄

Thought they wore skates, as sort of a handicap.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:21:40pm

re: #149 Mike Lamb

Soundgarden and NIN much more than Nirvana. One of my favorite albums of all time - Pretty Hate Machine dropped same year as Nevermind. Never got to see Soundgarden or Audioslave perform live though, and I’ll always regret that…

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:22:16pm

re: #149 Mike Lamb

In my little high school (Class of 2000, 85 kids) Tool went way over most people’s heads. Only my close friends and I (our little stoner skier clique) were into Tool in those days.

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The Major  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:22:25pm

re: #118 jaunte

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:23:37pm

re: #155 The Major

That’s money that goes to defense contractors and mercenaries, not to safety net programs like Medicare or Medicaid or to educating kids.

He doesn’t care where the money comes from, he’s got a butcher’s bill to make.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:23:39pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

Love sturgill. Love him. Not big into Humphreys or jam bands
I listened to phish when my dad passed because it is all major key music, so happier.

I started with soundgarden and nirvana. Then alice in chains blew my mind. Then slayer and pantera. Pantera destroyed me with the album far beyond driven. I also got in to the defines big time, and since it wss 2000, nu metal.

In college i got in to metal hardcore and punk and old school stuff. Big fan of dead Kennedy’s and black flag and minor threat. Also big fan of pig destroyer and botch and dillinger escape plan. Also started to dissect rush and get into underground alternative like failure, hum, helmet, and noise like today id the day.

Had gotten more diverse since. I love yes, rush, and Elton John and also love botch, daughters, zappa, coalesce and converge, and still listen to classic rock

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:24:03pm

re: #1 Charmingly Persistent

So what I am going to do, and I hope others will also, is pick music that is emblematic of my own coming of age. Not necessarily the music that I listened to the most but the stuff that dug into my psyche and changed me.

It’s a great thing to think about, but I can’t come up with an answer. One problem is that the list of artists alone would run for pages. Hell, the list of genres would be pretty unwieldy itself. And all this would cover everything from the old 78 rpm records I heard as a little kid on my grandparents hand-windup Victrola to Charles’s latest TD Concert page.

A second problem is that I really don’t think I will have “come of age” until they scatter my ashes into the Gulf of Mexico.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:24:50pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

In my little high school (Class of 2000, 85 kids) Tool went way over most people’s heads. Only my close friends and I (our little stoner skier clique) were into Tool in those days.

Well, whaddya know. Class of ‘02, graduated 3rd in a class of 137. Green Day’s “Time of Your Life” was our class song.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:27:30pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:27:42pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:27:54pm

re: #157 nowherenorth2

Helmet fuckin’ rocks. Meantime was another album I tried to get kids to listen to in high school, but it didn’t take (save me and the stoner skier clique). All the cool kids were listening to Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys, Garth Brooks and Reba McEntire.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:28:12pm

re: #153 lawhawk

Soundgarden and NIN much more than Nirvana. One of my favorite albums of all time - Pretty Hate Machine dropped same year as Nevermind. Never got to see Soundgarden or Audioslave perform live though, and I’ll always regret that…

Always found it ironic in college when “Closer” would come on, and the girls would go nuts singing/dancing, and I’d sit there in a stoned, drunken haze thinking “Do you not HEAR these lyrics?”

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:30:01pm

re: #159 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, whaddya know. Class of ‘02, graduated 3rd in a class of 137. Green Day’s “Time of Your Life” was our class song.

I graduated with honors (early! I was done with high school in January that year, got to go skiing almost everyday that winter, still got to walk in May) with a GPA of 3.8 and our class song was Schools Out by Alice Cooper, which was my idea.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:31:29pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

Found that album last January in Montreal for 3 bucks
Goddamn I love that album

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:31:34pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

I graduated with honors (early! I was done with high school in January that year, got to go skiing almost everyday that winter, still got to walk in May) with a GPA of 3.8 and our class song was Schools Out by Alice Cooper, which was my idea.

We should have been a class of 138. The girl right behind me on the honor roll was killed in a single-vehicle car accident a month before graduation. Sitting next to that empty chair for the whole ceremony was a deeply painful experience.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:32:22pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:32:40pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We should have been a class of 138. The girl right behind me on the honor roll was killed in a single-vehicle car accident a month before graduation. Sitting next to that empty chair for the whole ceremony was a deeply painful experience.

That’s rough. Adult dose of reality at so young an age.

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meteor  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:32:45pm
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The Major  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:33:40pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I was a member of a 700+ class of 1976 (and the youngest of my class at 16.) We were allowed to vote on a few songs as our class song: two that stuck out were “Old Days” By Chicago and “Revolution One” by The Beatles. “Old Days” won out.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:34:16pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

That’s rough. Adult dose of reality at so young an age.

I had to grow up early in a lot of ways. In some ways, I think it helped more than it hurt, in that it helped me to find my rationality early, rather than falling off the derp end with the rest of my friends and family.

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allegro  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:34:58pm

So on another note (note, get it?)… after watching Queer Eye I decided I needed to try a peach and egg white mask. So I did. (Ripe peach and egg white whirred in my mini processor. On my face for 20 minutes.) Ohhh my, my skin feels wonderful. Recommend it!

Now, back to music hour. :)

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:36:14pm

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Thought they wore skates, as sort of a handicap.

With pebbled ice that would be… Interesting.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:37:20pm

After my stroke in June I revisited superunknown….and my adult brain heard all the depression and sadness…my adolescent brain never picked it up.

That was right before Cornell died btw

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:38:33pm
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SteelPH  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:38:33pm

re: #113 jaunte

Keep in mind, Dan Bidondi is the same dumbass who thinks the Second Amendment guarantees him access to rocket launchers and the like.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:41:23pm

re: #153 lawhawk

How could you not appreciate this?
You have to envision being in the most dive dive bar you ever been in and the big guy at the end of the bar drinking large is buying drinks for the transients and locals and hangers on, and he’s got that juke maxed to 13 and half the room is singing along and the sun has not even set and your truck is parked 3 blocks away. And your home is 500 miles away.

Finger Fuckin Sally - David Allan Coe

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:41:52pm

re: #176 SteelPH

Keep in mind, Dan Bidondi is the same dumbass who thinks the Second Amendment guarantees him access to rocket launchers and the like.

You can tell that Dan has a disability just listening to him talk.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:42:10pm

I’ve read this tweet about four times and all I can imagine is Eric and Don, Jr. on loop going “it’s not fair, Dad!!!!” I wish they were getting him riled up with questions about Stormy and Karen and raping mom and being the world’s biggest douche, but alas….

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:45:55pm

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

They seem to be operating the child of narcissist survival tactic: point him at someone else.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:46:04pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby’s comment: “There are no reporters at Snopes,” despite the fact that he was responding to an email from one. I’m dying of laughter. The thick-headed moron.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:46:20pm
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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:47:20pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

It’s going to be a real shock to them that courts, laws and judgements are real, and not just political braying.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:47:53pm

1985. One of the greatest songs from that era, and it still sounds fresh and not dated at all — like so many of the songs from that time are. A truly evocative piece of music.

Dream Academy - “Life In A Northern Town” (Official Music Video)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:48:19pm

re: #180 jaunte

They seem to be operating the child of narcissist survival tactic: point him at someone else.

You know, that didn’t occur to me because I don’t want to sympathize with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, but I’m sure you’re right. I’ll bet they’ve become experts at survival in his world. I think to that anecdote about Trump showing up at Don Jr’s dorm room and knocking him flat for being hung over and not having a suit and tie on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:49:32pm

re: #183 jaunte

It’s going to be a real shock to them that courts, laws and judgements are real, and not just political braying.

Just because they make fake threats to sue in order to drum up wingnut welfare, that does not mean that others don’t file actual suits with merit.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:49:32pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Once they became adults, they should have become more responsible, but now they’re playing for the money.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:51:21pm

Another brilliant 80s song that hasn’t become dated at all. If anything it’s even more relevant.

World Party - Ship of Fools

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mmmirele  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:53:44pm

re: #98 BlueGrl21

It’s a total cliche, but Nirvana, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” I was born in 1972 and that hit when I was 18. Damn. I can still hear that opening guitar riff, then that drum beat and the dirty, angry music with Kurt Cobain yelling about this furious ennui we were all feeling.

That song is it for me.

I was 30 when that song came out, and it had a huge impact on me. I remember reading an article a few years before that where the writer was talking about how tired 80s music was becoming, and he opined that there were some kids in Hamtramck who were going to change the world. I heard “Smells Like Teen Spirit” and thought, “Not Hamtramck, but Seattle.” And yeah, it was *amazing* after the bombast of so much ’80s popular music.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:54:38pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Another brilliant 80s song that hasn’t become dated at all. If anything it’s even more relevant.

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I loved the Waterboys, but this album killed. I had forgotten….

Right now on rotation in my car is XTC “Mummer.” I didn’t like it at first, but it reveals itself little by little.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:54:46pm

Avarice and greed are gonna drive you over the endless sea
They will leave you drifting in the shallows
or drowning in the oceans of history
Traveling the world, you’re in search of no good
but I’m sure you’ll build your Sodom like you knew you would
Using all the good people for your galley slaves
as your little boat struggles through the warning waves, but you don’t pay
You will pay tomorrow
You’re gonna pay tomorrow
You’re gonna pay tomorrow

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:55:20pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

Wow those brings back memories. Right about when I got married coming off the Carter era recession, lost my job and scrambled to get another good gig.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:55:28pm

re: #181 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Rage Furby’s comment: “There are no reporters at Snopes,” despite the fact that he was responding to an email from one. I’m dying of laughter. The thick-headed moron.

He seems to think this is part of some giant conspiracy. They’re all crazed paranoids.

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plansbandc  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:56:17pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

I had a mix tape with this song and “Life in a Northern Town” on it. :D

Speaking of Ship of Fools, I like Robert Plant’s completely different song, Ship of Fools, a whole lot too…

Robert Plant | ‘Ship of Fools’ | Official Music Video

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:57:03pm

re: #193 Ace-o-aces

He seems to think this is part of some giant conspiracy. They’re all crazed paranoids.

That’s pretty much the default mindset of anyone who is that deep into the derp. The fear that the right wing uses to maintain control breeds paranoia; once you’ve achieved peak paranoia, you’re launched into a leadership role. Rinse and repeat for generations.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:58:03pm
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nines09  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:58:14pm

Nitey nite y’all. 1972 release. Seems older than that. Right at the apex of soul and psychedelic.

The Temptations - Papa Was A Rolling Stone

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 5:58:30pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

1985. One of the greatest songs from that era, and it still sounds fresh and not dated at all — like so many of the songs from that time are. A truly evocative piece of music.

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That song seemed so out of place for its time, but it has survived extremely well.

Still a favorite.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:00:21pm

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

I’ve read this tweet about four times and all I can imagine is Eric and Don, Jr. on loop going “it’s not fair, Dad!!!!” I wish they were getting him riled up with questions about Stormy and Karen and raping mom and being the world’s biggest douche, but alas….

[Embedded content]

Mike Judge should have made a Comedy Central show about this administration.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:01:07pm

re: #197 nines09

Nitey nite y’all. 1972 release. Seems older than that. Right at the apex of soul and psychedelic.

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God I love this song. It’s a masterpiece. Thanks.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:03:12pm

re: #200 Barefoot Grin

That electric piano.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:07:26pm

Well cooking pasta, home made red sauce, small seared pork filets. Rocking it with The Pretty Reckless. Liking the female front bands these days.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:11:35pm

re: #202 Unshaken Defiance

Well cooking pasta, home made red sauce, small seared pork filets. Rocking it with The Pretty Reckless. Liking the female front bands these days.

This one’s a couple of years old, but it still gets me all pumped up.

HAPPY FANGS - Raw Nights

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:12:07pm
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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:12:40pm

re: #177 nines09

How could you not appreciate this?
You have to envision being in the most dive dive bar you ever been in and the big guy at the end of the bar drinking large is buying drinks for the transients and locals and hangers on, and he’s got that juke maxed to 13 and half the room is singing along and the sun has not even set and your truck is parked 3 blocks away. And your home is 500 miles away.

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I loved this guy! Fuck Anita Bryant was one of my favorite DAC song. He’s so funny.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:15:52pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:16:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:17:39pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

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Ah, damn. Avalanches are so unpredictable. They’re like the tornadoes of the mountains.

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:17:43pm

Reason No. 611,738 for a young person in the ’60s to leave the South as soon as possible: With great music not only on vinyl and on the radio, but all over the region, my high school class of 525 students voted for our class song, and the runaway winner was “Moon River.”

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VegasGolfer  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:18:59pm

re: #141 MsJ

I copied this from another site re: ped’s
“At the elite levels, strength and cardio matters a lot. It means more control when shooting the rocks, less thrusting with your arm and more controlled pushing meaning more accuracy. Sweeping an entire game is also a solid cardio workout and effectiveness drops fairly significantly over the course of a game.”

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ckkatz  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:20:05pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

1985. One of the greatest songs from that era, and it still sounds fresh and not dated at all — like so many of the songs from that time are. A truly evocative piece of music.

Always liked that song. To me it has symbolized growing up, leaving the innocent world of childhood, to face the real world as a adult. Which, of course, probably has nothing to with what the band intended.

Interesting note. Several of the scenes are from around Pittsburgh. (For example at 1:50 there is a sign for PA State Route 51.) It also includes scenes from Aliquippa, Pa. I will defer to Joe Bacon on those.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:21:31pm

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the thing, they *are* predictable. The safety of the snowpack can be determined with a shovel, as demonstrated here.

Snowpack Test / ECT / 1/19/14

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:22:10pm

re: #206 jaunte

Yep. As long as we fight for them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:22:28pm

re: #212 teleskiguy

That’s the thing, they *are* predictable. The safety of the snowpack can be determined with a shovel, as demonstrated here.

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So is this a procedure that gets performed regularly on the mountains? I’m genuinely curious.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:26:37pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So is this a procedure that gets performed regularly on the mountains? I’m genuinely curious.

Absolutely. I’ve done it a number of times. The Colorado Avalanche Information Center and the Utah Avalanche Center do it on a daily basis.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:27:55pm

Stop the world now. I really want to get off.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:30:13pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

Absolutely. I’ve done it a number of times. The Colorado Avalanche Information Center and the Utah Avalanche Center do it on a daily basis.

Do they post notices or warnings? When I drive through the wooded portions of northern MN, they have fire vulnerability warning signs that are kept up-to-date based on the dryness of the season. I’m just wondering what the safety standards are for a sport that can obviously be extremely dangerous and deadly if things go wrong.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:30:21pm

re: #210 VegasGolfer

I copied this from another site re: ped’s
“At the elite levels, strength and cardio matters a lot. It means more control when shooting the rocks, less thrusting with your arm and more controlled pushing meaning more accuracy. Sweeping an entire game is also a solid cardio workout and effectiveness drops fairly significantly over the course of a game.”

Sure. But he could have done what these guys did. Worked their asses off!

Forgive the tweet. LGF won’t accept my iPhone pics.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:32:22pm

The snowpack in the backcountry in Colorado and Utah is very sketch right now, there’s a deep persistent slab problem, and deep persistent slabs are the scariest most un-survivable avalanches to be caught in. The problem with those avalanches is the snow, on outward appearance, can look safe to ski. When in fact you can remotely trigger a slide that will kill you.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:32:46pm

re: #216 MsJ

So I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t read that if it’s alright with yall.

Holy shit.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:33:02pm

re: #217 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Do they post notices or warnings?

Every day.

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:34:19pm

re: #205 MsJ

I loved this guy! Fuck Anita Bryant was one of my favorite DAC song. He’s so funny.

I love his cover of Steve Goodman and John Prine’s “You Never Even Called Me By My Name” and Johnny Paycheck’s cover of Coe’s “Take This Job and Shove It”, but, man, Coe’s written and sung some pretty fucking rough (and, apparently, some very racist, misogynistic, and homophobic) songs for decades.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:34:30pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

Every day.

Alright then. So to my reading, they took their lives in their own hands, gambled, and lost. It’s still tragic; I’m not trying to downplay that. But this is really them ignoring the warnings of the local conditions and deciding to go ahead with something that was a really, really, really bad idea.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:34:57pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:36:38pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Alright then. So to my reading, they took their lives in their own hands, gambled, and lost. It’s still tragic; I’m not trying to downplay that. But this is really them ignoring the warnings of the local conditions and deciding to go ahead with something that was a really, really, really bad idea.

You sound curious and intuitive, so here’s some recommended reading.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:38:13pm

re: #225 teleskiguy

You sound curious and intuitive, so here’s some recommended reading.

Thanks! Considering that I do live in ski country (though every MN skier I have encountered has pooh-poohed the conditions here, and most of us apparently migrate to Colorado to do actual skiing), it is a topic that interests me, though I have only been once.

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sauceruney  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:39:04pm

re: #177 nines09

I used to work with a lot of bikers who did our welding. David Allen Coe has some of the most racist songs I’ve ever heard. He was their favorite, and I was most elated the day they were told they’d be fired for playing his music again.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:43:04pm

Never Forget!!! You all can thank me later…………

Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride 1968 HQ

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:45:01pm

We ran out to the marina this evening to catch the sunset. Too bad it’s still kinda chilly, it was a lovely evening - but we ran out there, snapped pics, then jumped back in the truck and came home.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:45:08pm

I wonder how soon until Emma Gonzalez starts receiving death threats?

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BlueGrl21  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:45:15pm

re: #163 Mike Lamb

Always found it ironic in college when “Closer” would come on, and the girls would go nuts singing/dancing, and I’d sit there in a stoned, drunken haze thinking “Do you not HEAR these lyrics?”

Yeah, I’d be bartending for frat boys and sorority girls and thinking, “I know you think you’re being really edgy right now, but you need to listen to the rest of the album. You’re grinding to the music of a deviant drug addict. Enjoy your Jaegar shot and your Bud Light.”

I was a bit cynical.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:47:58pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

When you get to the level I’m at, skiing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Some powder skiing is better than sex.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:48:30pm

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how soon until Emma Gonzalez starts receiving death threats?

Yesterday. But I get this odd feeling that it will backfire.

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Mattand  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:50:07pm

re: #231 BlueGrl21

Yeah, I’d be bartending for frat boys and sorority girls and thinking, “I know you think you’re being really edgy right now, but you need to listen to the rest of the album. You’re grinding to the music of a deviant drug addict. Enjoy your Jaegar shot and your Bud Light.

I was a bit cynical.

This genuinely made me laugh. It’s also reinforces something I learned a long time ago: a strong melody can let you get away with anything lyrically.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:51:23pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

When you get to the level I’m at, skiing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Some powder skiing is better than sex.

I don’t know if that’s implying that you’ve had poor sex or I’ve had poor skiing. Probably the latter.

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danarchy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:52:16pm

re: #231 BlueGrl21

Yeah, I’d be bartending for frat boys and sorority girls and thinking, “I know you think you’re being really edgy right now, but you need to listen to the rest of the album. You’re grinding to the music of a deviant drug addict. Enjoy your Jaegar shot and your Bud Light.”

I was a bit cynical.

To be fair, an awful lot of great music has been churned out by deviant drug addicts.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:53:35pm

Not to be Infringed!

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:53:57pm

re: #235 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I don’t know if that’s implying that you’ve had poor sex or I’ve had poor skiing. Probably the latter.

I’ve had both.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:56:49pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

I’ve had both.

Fair enough, my virtual friend. Fair enough.

[Raises glass.]

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:57:03pm

re: #237 Dave In Austin

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What, the right to wear a short haircut even though you’re not really bald?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:57:46pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:58:36pm

re: #237 Dave In Austin

Iframe

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:59:35pm

re: #240 Belafon

I never thought the “Skinhead” movement would take hold here. How wrong I was. Just subtler Skinheads. #PoloShirtNazis

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BlueGrl21  Feb 18, 2018 • 6:59:36pm

re: #234 Mattand

This genuinely made me laugh. It’s also reinforces something I learned a long time ago: a strong melody can let you get away with anything lyrically.

I bartended at an underground industrial club on the bayou in downtown Houston. It was where all the college kids went for a night out to be “edgy.” Half of them couldn’t handle the alcohol, acted like assholes, decided to break bottles and threaten others or start fights. They either got beaten by a regular or hauled off to the Houston jail that was right next door. Or both; there were a few times the officers were slow to break up a fight. Every damn night.

It paid for my undergrad degree, but man, I do not miss it.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:00:02pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:00:28pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

re: #235 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The good news is we have lived well enough to know the difference. In both instances.

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:00:31pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

When you get to the level I’m at, skiing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

Way back in the day there was a movie called, I think, “Mondo Cane” in which folks skied naked somewhere in Europe..

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:00:36pm

re: #243 Dave In Austin

Hey…. New Band Name.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:01:23pm

re: #246 Unshaken Defiance

The good news is we have lived well enough to know the difference. In both instances.

Right? Once upon a time, I would have told you I never would have known what good sex nor good skiing meant. I still have a chance to experience the latter. The former… Well, Mrs. Fish is currently unavailable for comment.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:03:05pm

re: #228 Dave In Austin

Never Forget!!! You all can thank me later…………

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In mine I said Three Dog Night, but this was actually what my brother was playing all the time. I think he was probably 15 or 16 at the time which made me 7 or 8. Forgot Steppenwolf (though he also played some 3-dog). Thanks.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:04:44pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

Nope. It is not the time to talk about giving Trump or Pence a free lifetime judicial appointment.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:06:27pm

re: #212 teleskiguy

When I was in Zermatt, Switzerland 20 years ago, locals explained that ski runs were not opened unless there were animal tracks in the snow. If the animals wouldn’t chance it, they didn’t open the run.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:06:41pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Nope. It is not the time to talk about giving Trump or Pence a free lifetime judicial appointment.

After November if we get control of the Senate.

I hate to be calculating like that, but Trump getting to appoint a 40 or early 50 year old does not sound like my idea of fun.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:09:46pm

re: #253 Belafon

After November if we get control of the Senate.

I hate to be calculating like that, but Trump getting to appoint a 40 or early 50 year old does not sound like my idea of fun.

Suppose we could Garland the nominee for two years.

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:10:03pm

re: #252 Flying Squirrel Girl

When I was in Zermatt, Switzerland 20 years ago, locals explained that ski runs were not opened unless there were animal tracks in the snow. If the animals wouldn’t chance it, they didn’t open the run.

Seems a little iffy. Is it possible this is where we get the saying, “Many footprints going in, not one coming back.”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:10:28pm

So a few weeks ago I snarked off at some Minnesota joke using #Lutefisk.
Today I get this follow.
@VegasVikingGang

I’m telling you, there is a Viking Renaissance going on in this country and no one is talking about it (Slams beerhorn on the table)…..

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:10:31pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Nope. It is not the time to talk about giving Trump or Pence a free lifetime judicial appointment.

With Clarence Thomas on the bench they already have a lifetime justice on their side. Getting him out would at least open it up to other possibilities.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:11:34pm

re: #247 whitebeach

Way back in the day there was a movie called, I think, “Mondo Cane” in which folks skied naked somewhere in Europe..

A modern day video!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:11:44pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

With Clarence Thomas on the bench they already have a lifetime justice on their side. Getting him out would at least open it up to other possibilities.

Chief Justice Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:11:55pm

re: #256 Dave In Austin

So a few weeks ago I snarked off at some Minnesota joke using #Lutefisk.
Today I get this follow.

I’m telling you, there is a Viking Renaissance going on in this country and no one is talking about it (Slams beerhorn on the table)…..

The wild north country takes their Danish/Norwegian/Swedish heritage seriously. Fuck with the Viking descendants at your peril, you British peasant.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:12:24pm

re: #222 TedStriker

I love his cover of Steve Goodman and John Prine’s “You Never Even Called Me By My Name” and Johnny Paycheck’s cover of Coe’s “Take This Job and Shove It”, but, man, Coe’s written and sung some pretty fucking rough (and, apparently, some very racist, misogynistic, and homophobic) songs for decades.

Very in every case. Rough is putting it mildly.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:13:22pm

re: #252 Flying Squirrel Girl

When I was in Zermatt, Switzerland 20 years ago, locals explained that ski runs were not opened unless there were animal tracks in the snow. If the animals wouldn’t chance it, they didn’t open the run.

It’s so different in Europe though. The ski areas in Europe don’t have trees. So different from the United States. Apples and oranges.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:13:22pm

Watch Fergie singing the National Anthem at the NBA All-Star game at your own risk folks.

Oh my word.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:14:08pm

re: #263 JordanRules

Oh that bad?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:14:09pm

re: #253 Belafon

After November if we get control of the Senate.

I hate to be calculating like that, but Trump getting to appoint a 40 or early 50 year old does not sound like my idea of fun.

Trump can’t just appoint a justice to the Supreme Court - there’s a process that would need to be followed. Removing Thomas would at least give Democrats a chance to change the balance. Right now, Democrats are simply fucked with a Supreme Court like this.

And Thomas really does have a history of ethical and legal problems that could make it happen - read the article.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:16:48pm

re: #264 Unshaken Defiance

Yes.

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danarchy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:16:51pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

Chief Justice Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third.

Roberts has the title of Chief Justice for life(or until he retires) right? I think Justice Gowdy is more likely, he wouldn’t appoint someone as old as sessions.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:17:08pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

We’ll be very lucky to hold our own in the Senate in 2018.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:17:42pm

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The wild north country takes their Danish/Norwegian/Swedish heritage seriously. Fuck with the Viking descendants at your peril, you British peasant.

My folks told us out linage fully came from England Wales and Scotland being the most of it. My brother did a DNA test to find that someone, somewhere had wiggled a bit of the weigen in there as well…..

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:17:43pm

re: #267 danarchy

Roberts has the title of Chief Justice for life(or until he retires) right? I think Justice Gowdy is more likely, he wouldn’t appoint someone as old as sessions.

Gets him out of the way, with a figleaf.

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calochortus  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:17:50pm

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The wild north country takes their Danish/Norwegian/Swedish heritage seriously. Fuck with the Viking descendants at your peril, you British peasant.

“But what about those of us with both Swedish and British heritage?” she asked plaintively.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:18:43pm

I’m going to bed after this last music-related anecdote, but in 1991 or 1992 (have to check my old passport) I was visiting my brother who followed a German woman from London to Germany. She kept him busy almost the entire time I was there with home-improvement projects, so I just walked the neighborhood. I went to a bar one night and heard two guys say in English “too much, too soon” into their German conversation. So I helpfully interjected “New York Dolls?” They gave me a big thumbs up and started talking to me in fairly fluent English. They were tradesmen. In the midst of buying me multiple drinks they said, “we saw your Polo shirt and were going to kick your ass when you left the bar.” (My mom had the habit of buying Polo irregulars for my Christmas presents.)

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:18:50pm

re: #262 teleskiguy

True, but how do trees figure into the avalanche equation? Unstable snow is unstable regardless of obstacles, right? (I live in South Texas where the largest hill is the landfill, so I don’t know much).

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:19:10pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

1985. One of the greatest songs from that era, and it still sounds fresh and not dated at all — like so many of the songs from that time are. A truly evocative piece of music.

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I”ll never separate it from my memories of the Challenger though. It was associated with Christa McAuliffe’s class.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:20:26pm

re: #273 Flying Squirrel Girl

True, but how do trees figure into the avalanche equation? Unstable snow is unstable regardless of obstacles, right? (I live in South Texas where the largest hill is the landfill, so I don’t know much).

I think I know where that is…….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:20:33pm

re: #271 calochortus

“But what about those of us with both Swedish and British heritage?” she asked plaintively.

Mrs. Fish, despite her mother being of nearly pure Danish/Swedish stock, is a mutt through and through, including a strong dose of English. Don’t worry, they won’t murder you with axes. You might get a maiming, though.///

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:23:38pm

We’re gonna have to start thinking about fighting back on a LOT of fronts, folks. Getting Trump removed from office is just one step of many that need to happen. The GOP has been very busy for the past 20 years. And we can’t afford to get pessimistic.

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Jay C  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:24:16pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

With Clarence Thomas on the bench they already have a lifetime justice on their side. Getting him out would at least open it up to other possibilities.

Disagree. Highly. Even with control of the Senate (and a willingness to Garland any nominee). Do we really want to give either Trump or his Vice-idiot the chance of a SCOTUS nominee? Jeez, he’d probably send up Roy Moore…
And also, who needs a year to two of Republicans’ bleating (however hypocritical) about “Dem obstructionism” - cheered on by the media, no doubt….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:24:27pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:24:35pm

No nno nonononononoo…. NoNo

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:24:38pm

re: #273 Flying Squirrel Girl

True, but how do trees figure into the avalanche equation? Unstable snow is unstable regardless of obstacles, right? (I live in South Texas where the largest hill is the landfill, so I don’t know much).

Tree stands are low avalanche hazard territory, and that has a lot to do with the topography of the mountain. Deep clefts in the mountain can cut through deep stands of trees that can be observed over time. This is the Sky Chutes, as seen from eastbound Interstate 70 just west of Copper Mountain, CO.

Notice the avalanche paths, in the deep clefts of the mountain. No trees grow there ‘cause it slides over and over.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:24:39pm

Seriously. If you believe in liberal causes, you need to understand that we’re in a battle for our very lives here.

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calochortus  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:25:40pm

re: #276 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish, despite her mother being of nearly pure Danish/Swedish stock, is a mutt through and through, including a strong dose of English. Don’t worry, they won’t murder you with axes. You might get a maiming, though.///

Phew, that’s a load off my mind.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:27:32pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

Yall were warned.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:28:34pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

I talk politics with my mostly 20 something crew at work all the time. They’re into it. They’re not detached. Hell, one of them is asking me questions! I have high hopes for this November.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:29:00pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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GotNews has a track record of both getting key details in stories wrong and misidentifying people in controversial stories, exposing them to Internet harassment. However, because they often claim to have “exclusive” information, they are often sourced by other sites for stories that turn out to be wildly inaccurate.

For example, GotNews falsely accused a hotel security guard of being an accomplice to the October 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas, when in fact the security guard was just another shooting victim. In December 2017, Johnson helped spark a Capitol Police investigation when he bragged about having documents detailing allegations of sexual harassment against Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-New York). The documents, it turned out, were forged.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:29:15pm

We have 26 Senate seats to defend in 2018. the GOP has 8. “Holding our own” is very optimistic.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:29:25pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Seriously. If you believe in liberal causes, you need to understand that we’re in a battle for our very lives here.

I’m working with my congressional Candidate for the Red Red TX25th. Met her today for the first time. Meeting again Wends to discuss logistics. @JulieforTX25

Never been so involved.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:29:30pm

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:30:38pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

The fucker never spoke during oral arguments… until his best buddy Scalia died.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:32:10pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

There’s more where that came from.

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calochortus  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:33:07pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

Unless they were almost as bad and 40 years old so they could be there for another 40 or so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:33:54pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:33:56pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

We have 26 Senate seats to defend in 2018. the GOP has 8. “Holding our own” is very optimistic.

Well…in the 2016 election, it was 10 Democrats to 24 Republicans. Only two GOPers lost re-election (Ayotte of NH and Kirk of IL) in a year that was supposedly unfavorable to GOPers. Incumbency is a hell of a drug.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:35:53pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

A younger lunatic would be worse.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:36:24pm

Just Alabama justice officials could stock a generation of degenerate Supreme Court Justices. You haven’t met Jeff Sessions’ protege, the District Attorney who has used all-white juries to put proportionally more people on death row than any other in the country.

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piratedan  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:36:45pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

no argument with what you’ve said but for some reason, while this last year has been a GOP wet dream legislatively (kinda sorta), I have tremendous faith in Nancy Pelosi (and surprisingly Sen Shumer) to herd the cats to fix a lot of the fuckery. The gloves will be off once the Dems take office and there will be a very polite legislative payback. Oh they’ll be hearings and they’ll be discussions but I have no worries that Nancy and Chuck won’t do whatever is needed to address shit.

Congress will be working again with people writing legislation and no more of these GOP compromises in order to get the best bill possible.

She will show these assholes just how its done.

All we need to do is not have the asshat in chief nuke the planet

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ckkatz  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:37:39pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

Ouch!

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:38:16pm

re: #278 Jay C

And also, who needs a year to two of Republicans’ bleating (however hypocritical) about “Dem obstructionism” - cheered on by the media, no doubt….

Jay, they’re gonna bleat that no matter what, and the media will magic-balance-fairy it with straight faces. This would happen if there were only ten Dem senators, or two. I appreciate your point of view, but the barbarians are torching the city, and it’s no time to worry about what they bleat.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:38:38pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Seriously. If you believe in liberal causes, you need to understand that we’re in a battle for our very lives here.

Things are turning around. Propagandists are being sued, kids are pushing back against the NRA, women expect to be treated as equals, and Mueller is closing in on Trump. The good guys are going to win this battle. Conservatives slow down progress, but they’re always on the wrong side of history.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:39:16pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Seriously. If you believe in liberal causes, you need to understand that we’re in a battle for our very lives here.

I’m taking a hiatus from another online place I frequent (sports activity related) because I have a habit of attacking the “meh, both sides suck” people. Maybe I should return and keep up the attack (in a kind way).

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:39:42pm

Is there EVEN ONE photo of Trump and Ivanka that isn’t creepy as shit?

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Jay C  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:40:27pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

Don’t get me wrong: I thoroughly believe removing Clarence Thomas from the Court (preferably directly to jail) could only be a huge benefit for the SC and the country in general. It’s just that “replacing” him is a political process: and the politics just don’t seem optimal right now. But yeah, if any Justice should go, it’s Clarence The Clown…

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:40:57pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:41:16pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

I guess he’s her seat belt.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:41:51pm

Who thinks this is a good look?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:42:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:43:20pm

re: #306 jaunte

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Who thinks this is a good look?

47% of the people who bothered to vote.

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:44:14pm

re: #306 jaunte

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Who thinks this is a good look?

Who thinks his wife looks like a hooker in that pic?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:45:10pm

good grief

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:45:46pm

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:45:58pm

re: #306 jaunte

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:47:12pm

re: #291 Decatur Deb

There’s more where that came from.

This isn’t going to get any easier if we stop trying.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:47:15pm

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

My dog doesn’t eat any of that shit. I think I’m good.

Thanks for the heads up!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:47:58pm
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:49:12pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

Thanks for the explanation, like I said I come from low low country so I don’t know how snow acts.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:49:53pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

That was awful.

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:50:01pm
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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:52:04pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

Here’s an antidote:

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:52:14pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

This isn’t going to get any easier if we stop trying.

Wife and I know precisely what has to be done and how to do it. We don’t need another distracting battle. A doctor on our canvassing team chewed my ass out for ‘letting’ my wife take the risks she took in Florida in 2016.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:53:03pm

re: #306 jaunte

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Who thinks this is a good look?

The same people who thought this was a real knee slapper.

Trump mocks reporter with disability

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:53:36pm

re: #303 Jay C

Don’t get me wrong: I thoroughly believe removing Clarence Thomas from the Court (preferably directly to jail) could only be a huge benefit for the SC and the country in general. It’s just that “replacing” him is a political process: and the politics just don’t seem optimal right now. But yeah, if any Justice should go, it’s Clarence The Clown…

Until a Democrat occupies the WH, evicting Clarence Thomas is not an ideal policy. As others have mentioned, he will be replaced with someone younger who is at least as extreme in outlook. We are not going to get another Souter or Blackmun or even O’Connor. All future Republican appointments will be Federalist Society stooges.

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teleskiguy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:53:43pm

re: #316 Flying Squirrel Girl

Did you see how the avalanche paths spell the word ‘sky’? Hence their name!

I’ve actually skied down the ‘Y’ which you can get to by chairlift (and some hoofin’) on the other side of the mountain, which is the Breckenridge Ski Area.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:53:59pm

LOL

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Frenchy  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:57:05pm

re: #309 Skip Intro

And every pic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:57:40pm
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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:57:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2018 • 7:59:23pm

re: #318 Kragar

If you’ve ever tried to put your finger up a straight guy’s ass during sex, you’ll know that they actually understand ongoing consent, withdrawal of consent and sexual boundaries very well. They act confused when it’s our bodies.

Well, that’s certainly a penetrating analysis of the problem.

cough

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:00:26pm
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mmmirele  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:00:30pm

re: #209 whitebeach

Reason No. 611,738 for a young person in the ’60s to leave the South as soon as possible: With great music not only on vinyl and on the radio, but all over the region, my high school class of 525 students voted for our class song, and the runaway winner was “Moon River.”

We had “The Way We Were” two years in a row (including my year). And it’s not for lack of trying; one of my classmates wanted Yes’ “I’ve Seen All Good People” but no, we repeated the song of the class of 1977.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:02:09pm

re: #330 mmmirele

We had “The Way We Were” two years in a row (including my year). And it’s not for lack of trying; one of my classmates wanted Yes’ “I’ve Seen All Good People” but no, we repeated the song of the class of 1977.

Think we’re seeing a ‘slow dance’ trend here.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:02:10pm

re: #319 jaunte

Some people think this was indeed her inspiration.
Um fail.

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:04:19pm

re: #327 MsJ

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stpaulbear  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:04:33pm

re: #327 MsJ

Men who can’t get laid can’t get laid because they have too much personality.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:05:54pm
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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:06:11pm

re: #327 MsJ

Reno Omokri is like the Onion of bad sex fairytales.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:06:37pm

re: #334 stpaulbear

Men who can’t get laid can’t get laid because they have too much personality.

That’s a nice way of saying someone is an asshole. 😂

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:06:55pm

re: #327 MsJ

@renoomokri
Dear women

When men have sex with you,they deposit some of their personality in you through their discharge. Having multiple men discharge into you negatively affects your psyche and personality. God designed women to be recipients of only their husband’s discharge #RenosNuggets

OMG, just imagine what it might mean if multiple women peed on a man who later became president of the United States.

[Edited twice in fumble-fingered attempts to credit the original comment. Hope I’ve got it right now, MsJ.]

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:06:58pm

re: #333 Kragar

Should think that, after 52 years, Wife would have absorbed enough of my personality to know that I hate broccoli.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:08:09pm

Trippin’ w/Johnny Wier at the Olympics….
We’re going with the outright cross-dressing tonite to really fuck with people.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:09:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:09:52pm

re: #340 Dave In Austin

Trippin’ w/Johnny Wier at the Olympics….
We’re going with the outright cross-dressing tonite to really fuck with people.

Love him!

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:10:12pm

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Should think that, after 52 years, Wife would have absorbed enough of my personality to know that I hate broccoli.

If I had only a thousand updings left to give, I think I’d spend about 900 of them here.

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:11:07pm

Lots of good reports on her timeline. Lots of pissed people getting engaged.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:12:51pm

re: #333 Kragar

Dear women,

Some men are terrified of women who seek to achieve sexual gratification and feel that they have to shame them into a) not seeking it in the first place and b) believing that if they do they are flawed and unwanted for having done so.

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whitebeach  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:14:12pm

re: #330 mmmirele

We had “The Way We Were” two years in a row (including my year). And it’s not for lack of trying; one of my classmates wanted Yes’ “I’ve Seen All Good People” but no, we repeated the song of the class of 1977.

That’s bad, sure. But we should save our tears for kids who graduated when “Raindrops Keep Fallin’ on My Head” or “You Light Up My Life” were big.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:14:21pm

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

Public Service Announcement

FDA ALERT

The list of withdrawn products the firm provided to the FDA include:

The FDA has become aware of reports of other products also subject to withdrawal. The FDA has requested clarification from Smuckers regarding the status of these other products.

Well, I can save money on my epilepsy drug and eat dog food instead. /s

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calochortus  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:16:24pm

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can save money on my epilepsy drug and eat dog food instead. /s

Be sure to get the dosage analyzed first.
/

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:19:52pm

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can save money on my epilepsy drug and eat dog food instead. /s

Isn’t it phenobarbital used to treat epilepsy in humans, not pentobarbital?
That’s what my brother took

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JordanRules  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:21:11pm

re: #345 Flying Squirrel Girl

IOW, do not sleep with these men. It’s wack.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:21:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:22:03pm

re: #258 teleskiguy

A modern day video!

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Talk about freezing your ass off!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:24:54pm

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can save money on my epilepsy drug and eat dog food instead. /s

As a parting gift after my older brothers 1st divorce. His Ex came over to his house 1st thing in the morning after he had gone to work and free fed his dog (Irish setter) raw chicken skins and Old Roy dog food. Then she let him to free roam the house for the rest of the day. Needless to say, Jeff came home to an absolute horror in the house and had deal with a dog with projectile diarrhea for another 36 hrs…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:25:00pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

Isn’t it phenobarbital used to treat epilepsy in humans, not pentobarbital?
That’s what my brother took

Yes, Phenobarbital is the drug usually used when using a barbiturate. Pentobarbital is less-used. (The first was originally marketed under the name Luminal, the second under the name Nebutal.)

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stpaulbear  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:28:23pm

re: #346 whitebeach

That’s bad, sure. But we should save our tears for kids who graduated when “Raindrops Keep Fallin’ on My Head” or “You Light Up My Life” were big.

Back when I was playing full time my band played at a prom in Crookston MN. The theme for the prom was ‘Nights in White Satin’. We played that song for their prom march and had to play it over and over again for a full 40 minutes until the march was completed. After about 20 minutes, our singer had a rough time playing it straight on the line ‘..never reaching the end’.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:30:01pm

ICYMI

Hero who died in the bronx fire

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:30:53pm

Continuing my battle with Microsoft for a second night… .

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:31:19pm

Apropos of nothing excepting possibly jolly good times and a right smart tribute to a jolly good boy from Brixton:

Space Oddity - Varietopia with Paul F. Tompkins

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CleverToad  Feb 18, 2018 • 8:43:49pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I hope everyone arguing against Thomas being impeached has at least read that article, because it’s a SERIOUS eye-opener about this disgusting guy. Nobody could possibly be worse.

Don’t know if we can get the scumbucket impeached at this point, but would surely like to see the new info get a whole lot of coverage now, in preparation for future proceedings. Have always believed he didn’t belong on the SC.


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