Great New Music Video From Courtney Barnett: “Need a Little Time”

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‘Need A Little Time’ is taken from Courtney Barnett’s upcoming album ‘Tell Me How You Really Feel’ out on 18th May 2018. Pre-order here: courtney-barnett.lnk.to

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DIRECTOR Danny Cohen
PRODUCER Alexandra George
EDITOR Ben Hall
CINEMATOGRAPHER Ed Goldner
PRODUCTION DESIGNER Marni Kornhauser
COSTUME DESIGNER VoVo The Label, Phoebe Taylor & Ashlee Pierce
HMUA & PROSTHETICS Sharp FX
DIRECTOR’S ASSISTANT Hayden Somerville
1AD Giordi Caputo
1AC Nick Forster
2AC Gianna Mazzeo
GRIP / GAFFER Joshua Potts
BEST PERSON Hannah Palmer
STEADICAM OPERATOR Glenn Clayton
AERIAL RIGGING EFFECTS Showtech Australia
PRODUCTION DESIGNER ASSISTANT Liam Linley
SCENIC ARTIST Stuart Burchall
SCULPTOR Laura Vickery
TELEPORT ROOM DESIGN Marni Kornhauser, Danny Cohen, Tristan Ceddia
ART DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT Zena Bartlett
ART DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT Sjaida Karas
ART DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT Katie Drane
ART DEPARTMENT ASSISTANTS VoVo The Label
HMUA & PROSTHETIC ASSISTANT Katie Dobbin
HMUA ASSISTANT Jessica Cavanagh
PRODUCTION ASSISTANT Tessa Mansfield­-Hung
PRODUCTION ASSISTANT Rocco Rossouw
RUNNER Julia Spizzica
ANIMATION Benjamin Portas
VISUAL EFFECTS Dave Abbott
COLOURIST Dan Stonehouse, Crayon

SPECIAL THANKS
Ken, Marney & Bob at Murray Valley Private Hospital, Tiny, Tania, Steven & Bridget at Showtech Australia, Savage Film Services, VA Hire, Trystan at Motel Wellington Wodonga, Bruce at Paris End Studios, Farrah & Andrea at Pinchos Catering & Andiamo Street Food Wodonga, The Blazing Stump Hotel, Yulanda at Wwave Hire, Nellie Jackson, Hugh Turrell, Jason Galea, Josh Cohen, Asteroid Mates: Jen, Etta, Chook, Tully, Tristan, Xac, Nora and Lucy, Kat Latour and Leah Churchill-­Brown at EXIT, Tom Savige, Lachlan Stone, Gabe Russo, Sherwin Akbarzadeh, Doug Durant, Nick O’Byrne, Derry Sheehan, Dave Ellis, Chris McKenzie, Tong Sarin and Sagan

Words & Music by Courtney Barnett

I don’t know a lot about you but
You seem to know a lot about me so
I take a little time out, I take a little time out

I’m sorry that I lost my patience
You deserve better it’s true
I need a little time out
I need a little time out
From me
And you

Open up your insides show us
Your inner most lecherous
I’ll rip it out carefully
I promise you won’t feel a thing

Everybody wants to have their say
Forever waiting for some car crash
I need a little time out
I need a little time out
From me
And you

Shave your head to see how it feels
Emotionally it’s not that different
But to the hand it’s beautiful
(Yeah to the hand it’s beautiful)

You seem to have the weight of the world
Upon your bony shoulders well hold on
You need a little time out
You need a little time out
From you
And me

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280 comments

1
freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:24:48pm

One of the many problems with Trump’s run-away narcissism is that it is crowding out concern/interest among Americans for all the other things going on in the world, big and small.

And tragic:

Putin is stoking the hellish war in Syria and no one is stopping him

[…]

In congressional testimony this week, Gen. Joseph Votel, the head of US Central Command, noted that, “Russia does play a role in here; they are trying to instigate tension among partners in the region and then trying to play a role in trying to be an arbiter in that.” He added, “I am concerned about this role that Russia plays in northern Syria and how it impacts all our relationships, especially the relationship between US and Turkey.”

Russia has been all-in on the side of the Syrian regime from the start of the conflict and its air campaign in Aleppo reshaped facts on the ground. It has blocked close to a dozen UN resolutions condemning the Syrian regime’s crimes against civilians, even blocking resolutions that would have allowed humanitarian relief to reach besieged moms and dads trying to pull their children through this hellish conflict. The latest UN effort to stop the bombardment and poisoning of Syrians in Eastern Ghouta ended in a ceasefire that existed only on paper in New York. It failed entirely to take hold on the ground.

[…]

2
Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:27:28pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:31:06pm

When your need to take a victory lap overrides your need to maintain your “innocence”:

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:32:38pm

Religious revanchism is about to overtake Costa Rica:

Evangelical conservative leads Costa Rica election race - poll

Conservative evangelical Christian Fabricio Alvarado Munoz has an effective lead of almost 14 percentage points over ruling party hopeful Carlos Alvarado Quesada in the race to be Costa Rica’s next president, an opinion poll showed on Friday.

Alvarado Munoz, a 43-year-old religious singer and former journalist who belongs to the National Restoration Party, shot to prominence after condemning a court ruling that urged Costa Rica to grant civil marriage rights to same-sex couples.

[…]

Alvarado Munoz was elected to the national assembly in 2014 as the only federal deputy representing the Christian-backed National Restoration Party.

His rise on a ticket opposing gay marriage was helped by the decline of a two-party system going back decades in a country that has long been considered one of Latin America’s most stable.

Christianist nationalism will be corrosive to democracy in Costa Rica.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:36:40pm

Earlier today, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan issued a statement on the passing of Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY25):

“This is just jarring. My first thoughts go out to Louise’s family, friends, and her staff. Louise was a giant in the people’s House, the first woman ever to chair the Rules Committee. That said, Louise did not need a gavel to make a dent in history. She was unrelenting in fighting for her ideas and the people back home in Western New York. But really, the thing that I keep coming back to is how she was tough, but unfailingly gracious. She was simply great.

“In memory of Louise, I have ordered that the flags above the Capitol be lowered to half-staff. The coming days of mourning will bring many tributes to this wonderful public servant. For now, let us pray that God brings comfort to those closest to Louise.”

speaker.gov

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:37:27pm

He’s got a hellava case

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:39:43pm

re: #4 freetoken

Religious revanchism is about to overtake Costa Rica:

Evangelical conservative leads Costa Rica election race - poll

Christianist nationalism will be corrosive to democracy in Costa Rica.

Welp, there goes the last Liberal Democracy in Central America. It has no military. It cares for its people. It’s a shining light for what a country can and should be.

Ruined by a religious whack job.

Sigh.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:41:57pm

re: #4 freetoken

Parties with the word “restoration” in them always turn out to be ultra-conservative and/or fascist leaning. I’ve never been to CR, but I’ve heard it’s a great place for expats to live and retire to. The government devolving into one-party rule may change that situation.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:44:26pm

re: #7 austin_blue

Welp, there goes the last Liberal Democracy in Central America. It has no military. It cares for its people. It’s a shining light for what a country can and should be.

Ruined by a religious whack job.

It will take a while to unwind.

Not as long as the US, because it is smaller.

The anti-gay thing is the first step.

The country is already pretty religious, thanks to a mixture of Catholicism and pentecostal evangelicalism.

The next step will probably be about money, about how taxes are too high, or something like that.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:46:11pm

Nice.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:50:10pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

This motherfucking asshole, smegma elemental, synthesis of all negative human traits presently befouling the White House needs to go down. Hard.

He needs to die in prison, broke, abandoned by all those he thought to use in life, and with at least one episode of him crapping his pants at the enormity of the legal charges he faced immortalized on live video.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:50:14pm

re: #9 freetoken

It will take a while to unwind.

Not as long as the US, because it is smaller.

The anti-gay thing is the first step.

The country is already pretty religious, thanks to a mixture of Catholicism and pentecostal evangelicalism.

The next step will probably be about money, about how taxes are too high, or something like that.

Costa Rica has been the shining light in Central America for years. Thriving, government supported arts programs, excellent health care, and a huge eco-tourism economic engine. The thought of that being brought down by a religious regime that hates the fact that gays exist is just pitiful.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:50:48pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Nice.

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Bud.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:51:55pm

re: #13 austin_blue

Bud.

Weis.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:52:07pm

re: #12 austin_blue

Costa Rica has been the shining light in Central America for years. Thriving, government supported arts programs, excellent health care, and a huge eco-tourism economic engine. the thought of that being brought down by a religious regime that hates the fact that gays exist is just pitiful.

One can hope the polling is off, and the voters there choose not to go down that path.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:52:50pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

Weis.

Er.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:56:11pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

One can hope the polling is off, and the voters there choose not to go down that path.

When religion and politics mix, the result is always dreadful.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:57:37pm

I’m certainly no fan of Rep. Paul Ryan, but that was a gracious statement.

Contrast to the White House Proclamations page, which has crickets.

19
makeitstop  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:57:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:07:44pm

Trump wants to do away with the Civil Service and go back to the old spoils system.

Now just imagine if the Republicans repeal the Pendelton Act and Trump gets to pack agencies with his MAGAcap wearing stooges…

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:08:37pm

re: #19 makeitstop

Assuming civilization persists after this dark era, then ‘trump’ will enter the language as shorthand for the most awful human being imaginable — stupid, cruel, petty, corrupt, profoundly dishonest, and above all, glorying in all of these repellant traits.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:12:15pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Assuming civilization persists after this dark era, then ‘trump’ will enter the language as shorthand for the most awful human being imaginable — stupid, cruel, petty, corrupt, profoundly dishonest, and above all, glorying in all of these repellant traits.

The latest version of Boss Tweed

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:15:28pm

re: #17 EPR-radar

When religion and politics mix, the result is always dreadful.

It’s bad for all involved.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:17:32pm

The past few weeks I have rambled on about cosmology and how creationism still influences even supposedly secular science.

Anyway, here is something more direct.

And it starts off about Stephen Hawking and that nasty tweet from Texas. From a local newspaper in Indiana, it’s former editor writes:

KERRY HUBARTT: Tweet deemed insensitive may just be correct

[…]

Hawking and others run into real trouble with their “nothing” theory, according to astrophysicist Hugh Ross, founder of the creationist group, “Reasons to Believe.” He told onenewsnow.com, “They basically say not only is there a real-time dimension associated with the universe, but there’s imaginary time. And with two dimensions of time, you wouldn’t have a boundary for the universe. So they say there’s no boundary, therefore they say there is no need for God.”

[…]

Now, Hugh Ross is a creationist, a famous old-earth creationist, but the above description about the cosmology of Hawking is just drivel.

Knowing that the quoted website, OneNewsNow, is a creationist site notorious for its piss-poor record, I looked up the supposed quote, and sure enough it is on that site and posted just before Hawking died:

A brilliant mind fails to trace ‘nothing’ to a creator

And sure enough there is this paragraph:

“They basically say not only is there a real time dimension associated with the universe but there’s imaginary time,” he says. “And with two dimensions of time you wouldn’t have a boundary for the universe. So they say there’s no boundary therefore they say there is no need for God.”

Now that is utterly risible. I do not know if the writer for OneNewsNow misheard or misquoted Ross, but if Ross actually said that then he is more dishonest than I thought.

Now, as I’ve written before, recent discoveries have told us that the curvature of the universe is either flat or slightly negative (a hyperbolic space). This means that there is no “boundary”, spatially.

All that exists, for us, as a boundary is an observational boundary, the Cosmic Microwave Background, and that is a temporal boundary, not a spatial one.

And sure enough, OneNewsNow goes on to demonstrate how they misconstrue what modern cosmology has shown:

The late astronomer Fred Hoyle coined the phrase “Big Bang” to mock a theory he rejected in favor of the “Steady State” theory that rejects the idea that the universe - and hence time - had a beginning.

The theory of a big bang can be traced back to a Belgian priest, Georges Lamaitre [sic - they misspelled his name], who observed in the 1920s that the universe was expanding and other galaxies are moving away from our own.

This is, among other things, a false dichotomy. A boundless universe does not mean a steady state. The steady state universe was rejected, and Hubble did more observation about this early on the Lemaitre.

One of the problems with the “big bang” as far as how it is understood is that most people are thinking of it through religious teachings. Even supposedly secular scientists, who have a hard time leaving behind creationist language, seem to miss the point in lot of popular lectures.

Bottom line, which the creationists don’t like:
1) there is no physical evidence of an absolute “beginning”;
2) for us the temporal limits for photons is the CMB;
3) we extrapolate from the Standard Model of particle physics what sequentially had to occur before the existing matter could be cool enough to let the CMB photons travel freely through space;
3b) we can study the CMB for small fluctuations and patterns that can support our ideas about the Standard Model and about gravity;
4) there is no evidence for a spatial dimensional boundary for our existence;
5) there is no evidence of a temporal boundary for our universe other than observational limits;
6) there is no evidence for an upper limit for the amount of stuff that can exist.

All this runs counter to creationism, of course. But it is also probably counter to the intuition of many other people too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:18:19pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Nice.

Weed is a vegetable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:25:08pm

re: #24 freetoken

They are strawmanning so-called imaginary time. Even with only a high school education I understand that the descriptive name does not mean “time is imaginary” or “there is no god.”

Like most of my own apologetics fails, the point is not to convince someone who can grasp the issue, the point is to keep the faithful in the fold by giving them a comfortable straw windmill to tilt against (mixing metaphor with literature).

Imaginary time is only imaginary in the sense it is expressed in imaginary numbers (square roots of negative numbers).

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JordanRules  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:26:58pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

That looks like this nasty flavored, baked kale I got from Whole Paycheck once. I see leaves, not buds. And I really want to see buds.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:31:47pm

re: #27 JordanRules

That looks like this nasty flavored, baked kale I got from Whole Paycheck once. I see leaves, not buds. And I really want to see buds.

I wouldn’t know what a bud looks like [fingers crossed behind back]. Those things are ill-eagles, don’cha know.

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JordanRules  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:32:48pm
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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:34:00pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

And yet contemporary cosmology, as widely taught and written, doesn’t even use such things.

What Ross and the rest of creationists are falling over are the various models that posit more than a 3+1 dimensional universe.

But even those are not needed for this discussion.

The bottom line is that creationists don’t like the idea that the equations of physics work quite fine running time backwards. And there is no backwards limit.

For example, even running the equations backwards, cosmologists using QFT eventually arrive at a universe that are just such fields (scalar and vector) and these are just fine being eternal, no beginning necessary.

The reason the human mind seeks a “beginning” is probably rooted in our birth and the need to universalize our own biological conception.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:34:35pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Looks like moldy broccoli (yum!) to me.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:36:12pm

You know, if I believed Donny was a smarter or more clever man, I might think moves like this were aimed at some bigger goal of trying to discredit the FBI totally by pressuring them into making a blatantly partisan move against him. But I don’t believe that, so instead I can only conclude that he chose the timing for no other reason that be as petty and vindictive as possible.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:37:52pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

They are strawmanning so-called imaginary time. Even with only a high school education I understand that the descriptive name does not mean “time is imaginary” or “there is no god.”

Like most of my own apologetics fails, the point is not to convince someone who can grasp the issue, the point is to keep the faithful in the fold by giving them a comfortable straw windmill to tilt against (mixing metaphor with literature).

Imaginary time is only imaginary in the sense it is expressed in imaginary numbers (square roots of negative numbers).

I’ll interject here that imaginary numbers, which are part of the complex number system, enable analysis of AC power, and AC power is quite real. Just try changing a wall outlet sometime without checking to see if it’s connected to the mains, and you’ll see just how real AC is.

So that fact that we use imaginary numbers in cosmology and astrophysics does not suggest that either science is imaginary.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:38:05pm

Reviewing the Harry Potter films and it strikes me that while the first one had its charms, as young children often have, as Harry and his friends grow older they come off more and more as rather dull of mind.

Somewhere in the middle of the series I lose interest.

Also, notice how it seems no one studies languages or match or science at Hogwarts?

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:42:38pm

re: #30 freetoken

And yet contemporary cosmology, as widely taught and written, doesn’t even use such things.

What Ross and the rest of creationists are falling over are the various models that posit more than a 3+1 dimensional universe.

But even those are not needed for this discussion.

The bottom line is that creationists don’t like the idea that the equations of physics work quite fine running time backwards. And there is no backwards limit.

For example, even running the equations backwards, cosmologists using QFT eventually arrive at a universe that are just such fields (scalar and vector) and these are just fine being eternal, no beginning necessary.

The reason the human mind seeks a “beginning” is probably rooted in our birth and the need to universalize our own biological conception.

I’m certainly no creationist, but I think this is overstating the case a bit. It’s true that the fundamental equations of physics run forward and backward in time equally well.

But initial conditions are needed to get specific answers out of these equations, and the initial conditions of the cosmos (mainly an exceedingly low entropy) are special enough to be very difficult to explain scientifically. Of course that is no excuse for filling in that gap with goddidit. en.wikipedia.org

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:43:10pm

re: #34 freetoken

Reviewing the Harry Potter films and it strikes me that while the first one had its charms, as young children often have, as Harry and his friends grow older they come off more and more as rather dull of mind.

Somewhere in the middle of the series I lose interest.

Also, notice how it seems no one studies languages or match or science at Hogwarts?

It occurred to me. Hogwarts is more like a trade school than anything academic. Wouldn’t want to go there. And why do they have N.E.W.T.s when they don’t have post-Hogwarts education?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:46:48pm

re: #34 freetoken

Reviewing the Harry Potter films and it strikes me that while the first one had its charms, as young children often have, as Harry and his friends grow older they come off more and more as rather dull of mind.

Somewhere in the middle of the series I lose interest.

Also, notice how it seems no one studies languages or match or science at Hogwarts?

Hogwarts is basically a religious boarding school.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:47:25pm

Again, I’d like to apologize to the Board for going off on the troll in the last thread. I’ve tried to not do that. It’s ultimately feeding the troll and pretty damn stupid. But here’s the thing.

I grew up in a military family and lived for many years, on and off, in Northern Virginia where most of my friends were the sons and daughters of civil servants. Many of those parents worked for State, the CIA, the NSA, and other parts of the Government. We were good kids. We loved our country and loved our parents, whatever their faults.

In the last twenty years, the Civil Service has come under increasing heat. Somehow, professional personnel who are knowledgeable and competent in their areas of expertise are being attacked as “partisan”. It started in the Reagan years and accelerated in the Bush 2 years when the Civil Service was broadly attacked as being “demoncrats” as if they were a political bloc aligned with the left.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The professional Civil Service is politically blind, and always has been. Whatever the feelings of the individual, it has always been a force that tries to advance the common good.

The queering of the Civil Service has always been the appointment of political operatives by the Administration in charge. Democrats have generally appointed competent managers that were supportive of the Administrations policies but generally left the day to day running of the management of the agencies alone.

Republicans have not done this. Reagan shook things up. Bush 43 much less so, he understood how things should work. Clinton continued the trend by putting smart managers in charge of the various arms of the government. Bush 44 manipulated the Civil Service to an extreme degree after 9/11, to our detriment. Obama calmed everybody down for eight years and made everybody go “aaaah”.

Drumpf has pissed in everybody’s face, hasn’t appointed managers, encourages chaos, and laughs at anyone who points this out. His enemy is the Civil Service. It is stability, which he loathes.

Traditional government is his enemy. We have to understand this to understand Drumpf.

We absolutely need to understand this to realize how dangerous this man is.

Rant off.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:47:59pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

But initial conditions are needed to get specific answers out of these equations, and the initial conditions of the cosmos (mainly an exceedingly low entropy) are special enough to be very difficult to explain scientifically. Of course that is no excuse for filling in that gap with goddidit. en.wikipedia.org

Yes, I skipped over that part.

The problem with the entropy problem is that we don’t know how “low” is “low”.

In other words, we can say the the entropy of the universe had to be lower 13.7 billions years ago than it is now.

But we have no absolute measurement of the entropy of the universe now because, once again, we don’t know how much stuff actually exists.

And if we are living in a universe that is truly infinite - not just the geometry but the amount of “stuff” - then we have to throw out any idea of an absolute scale for entropy.

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:50:37pm

re: #24 freetoken

Just watched the Hawking biopic & it confirmed me in my belief that Hawking would be laughing his ass off at this kind of idiocy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:50:51pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

I’m certainly no creationist, but I think this is overstating the case a bit. It’s true that the fundamental equations of physics run forward and backward in time equally well.

But initial conditions are needed to get specific answers out of these equations, and the initial conditions of the cosmos (mainly an exceedingly low entropy) are special enough to be very difficult to explain scientifically. Of course that is no excuse for filling in that gap with goddidit. en.wikipedia.org

And not being able to explain those conditions now doesn’t mean we never will. It may turn out we won’t be able to, but for now the answer is “we don’t know.”

For those who demand certainty, “we don’t know” is an answer they simply cannot accept. Hence they insert Kali-ma. That is the god they are referring to isn’t it? The Great White Buffalo? Odin? Zeus? Tough to keep all the creation myths with zero evidence straight. “We don’t know” is honest.

It could be a god created all that is; it could even be their god out of the thousands proposed. Until that god is brought forth, they don’t know any more than cosmologists; moreover, they’re just making stuff up.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:53:51pm

If you heard a loud, shredding sound earlier, that was the SNL writers starting all over again on their scripts for tonight.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:57:40pm

re: #38 austin_blue

Again, I’d like to apologize to the Board for going off on the troll in the last thread. I’ve tried to not do that. It’s ultimately feeding the troll and pretty damn stupid. But here’s the thing.

(cut)

I absolutely think trolls should be engaged and taken apart publicly (see also the Stoneman Douglas students; they do not let trolls get a pass).

A troll should be shown publicly so his or her arguments (such as they are) can be shown to be diversions, smokescreens, or outright lies.

I don’t comment in many places, but if I see a troll and have the appropriate information to engage, I always do. It is not for the benefit of the troll (who either won’t change or is trying to get a rise out of people); it is for third-party readers who may not know the difference. It is critical for those readers they get the correct information: If all they see is the trolling comment, they may come to believe that argument is the correct position.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:07:07pm

I’m off for the rack. See you tomorrow.

Peace.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:11:03pm

re: #44 austin_blue

I’m off for the rack. See you tomorrow.

Peace.

Good night, Austin of Blue. I’m out for the night as well. I’ve been here all day (holy crap). The LGF commentariant must be getting really tired of me. (That, and I am still recovering from my fall on the ice yesterday when it was over seventy degrees for three days.)

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electrotek  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:22:48pm

They just fucked up his life for good:

At this point, naming him Donald Trump is about as bad as naming your kid Saddam, Osama, or Zarqawi.

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JordanRules  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:25:43pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:33:22pm

re: #47 JordanRules

The mushy middle in the US really needs to realize that Republicans are shitbirds who have absolute contempt for democracy. The Democrats had uninterrupted control of the House of Representatives for 40 straight years in the 20th century, and we’re going to need something on that scale, or even better, in the 21st century to dig out from under the mountain of elephant crap the GOP is dumping on everything.

I had hoped this lesson was learned in the W Bush years, but apparently not.

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JordanRules  Mar 16, 2018 • 11:50:36pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

Yeah, strongly agree. Whatever we build in resistance to this must be very long term. It’s the only way we move this American experiment forward in service to the ideal of a more perfect union.

Interacting with the mushy middle just about every day so often leaves me SMH. But I do believe we have some hope left. Not a lot, but some and that shit is still powerful. I have seen some of the pop culture enmeshed middlers wake the hell up. But I’m also very worried about stochastic terrorism, Fox and other propaganda outlets, the alt-right with the continuing thread of the Confederacy, the clueless tech bros and the religious power zealots. It’s truly frightening.

But it’s the fight we have to fight with a new citizens creed.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:30:58am

Good stuff social media person suddenly at the center of the sports world!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 17, 2018 • 2:00:00am

re: #34 freetoken

Reviewing the Harry Potter films and it strikes me that while the first one had its charms, as young children often have, as Harry and his friends grow older they come off more and more as rather dull of mind.

Somewhere in the middle of the series I lose interest.

Also, notice how it seems no one studies languages or match or science at Hogwarts?

I read the first book just to know what my kids were on about and enjoyed it along with the first film, lost interest in it all after that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 17, 2018 • 2:29:14am

re: #48 EPR-radar

The mushy middle in the US really needs to realize that Republicans are shitbirds who have absolute contempt for democracy.

Let us hope that mushy also means malleable and able to be shaped and influenced by viable arguments.

People are seeing the extent of the deal with the devil that the GOP made to get elected and I hope that those outside of the 30% base of hardcore Trump fans will start to flee in significant numbers.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 2:53:13am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I read the first book just to know what my kids were on about and enjoyed it along with the first film, lost interest in it all after that.

The more the movies go on, the less sense any of the characters make.

When Harry was 11, of course he’d be enchanted by all sorts of magical things.

But in the middle of the series, when he’s supposed to be 15 or so, why would any 15 year old boy just sit around a house all summer? At that age I was working a summer job. But somehow all the characters, not just Potter, just twiddle away their summers apparently not doing anything.

And why don’t some of the older children in his House at school travel? Don’t they go anywhere?

Sure, I know the books are written for juvenile readers, which is why the setting takes place in a school, as that is what children today know as “childhood”. Something which, though, would not have been true even 150 years ago, which, given the way the movie brings the stories to life, is about the period in which the magical world in the UK seems to be stuck - the Victorian era.

The entire Hogwarts undertaking comes off as extremely weird, in regards to how youth 11-18 years old act. It’s all too simple.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 3:14:18am

Back again is the TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES! meme:

Guest Column: Beware the black-robed bandits sitting on Pa. court

It’s a whine about the PA Supreme Court redoing the Congressional districts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 17, 2018 • 3:32:30am

re: #53 freetoken

The more the movies go on, the less sense any of the characters make.

When Harry was 11, of course he’d be enchanted by all sorts of magical things.

I think that was the last time I was laid up in bed for days and needed something to pass the time. I just wanted to be aware of the pop culture references. It was entertaining for the most part, and in general I was pleased to see young people getting excited about books and literature.

There were kids in over here who produced a German translation before the official version even came out.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 17, 2018 • 3:41:15am

re: #54 freetoken

Back again is the TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES! meme:

Guest Column: Beware the black-robed bandits sitting on Pa. court

It’s a whine about the PA Supreme Court redoing the Congressional districts.

And there’s that rather peculiar word again…….”bandits”.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 3:46:22am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

And there’s that rather peculiar word again…….”bandits”.

They’re stuck somewhere in the middle ages, with Robin Hood and the Sheriff of Nottingham.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:08:26am

Better hurry, your riches await:

Powerball jackpot climbs to $455 million for Saturday drawing

An estimated $455 million Powerball jackpot is up for grabs on Saturday evening, one of the biggest in the multi-state U.S. lottery’s history, after 19 straight drawings failed to produce a grand prize winner.

The odds of winning Saturday’s drawing, to be held at 10:59 p.m. ET (0259 GMT), are currently 1 in 292 million. A grand prize winner would have the choice of taking the $455 million jackpot doled out over 29 years, or taking a one-time, lump-sum payment of $269.4 million.

[…]

Hmmm… let’s see, $269 divided by 292 is $.92, still less than the cost of a ticket.

Sure, there are smaller winnings that are more numerous, so the expected value of a ticket is a bit higher than $.92, but not much.

The cost of a ticket is $2.

If the jackpot ever gets to a billion dollars, then I’ll buy a ticket.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:12:16am

$269 million, though, is very damn tempting. Even with houses mostly costing over a million dollars in trendy neighborhoods here in California, that amount of money is still significant.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:15:46am

re: #53 freetoken

The more the movies go on, the less sense any of the characters make.

When Harry was 11, of course he’d be enchanted by all sorts of magical things.

But in the middle of the series, when he’s supposed to be 15 or so, why would any 15 year old boy just sit around a house all summer? At that age I was working a summer job. But somehow all the characters, not just Potter, just twiddle away their summers apparently not doing anything.

And why don’t some of the older children in his House at school travel? Don’t they go anywhere?

Sure, I know the books are written for juvenile readers, which is why the setting takes place in a school, as that is what children today know as “childhood”. Something which, though, would not have been true even 150 years ago, which, given the way the movie brings the stories to life, is about the period in which the magical world in the UK seems to be stuck - the Victorian era.

The entire Hogwarts undertaking comes off as extremely weird, in regards to how youth 11-18 years old act. It’s all too simple.

I can’t speak to the other kids’ situations, but Harry’s uncle and aunt were borderline abusive guardians and never let him out of the house, it seems. Hermione’s parents were muggles and presumably took her out on the summer holiday. Ron’s family were all wizards, so WTH knows what they did over the summer.

Besides, since when does fiction bother with characters’ off time? Did Christie tell us what Poirot did when he wasn’t working a case? Did Lee and Ditko go into the details of Peter Parker’s school day? It’s left to the reader (one presumes) to fill in those details.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:19:09am

re: #60 wheat-dogg

It’s left to the reader (one presumes) to fill in those details.

The advantage of reading is that it activates the mind more than sitting and watching a screen, so the reader’s brain fills in details which are not on the page.

Watching a movie is passive and because it centered around visual stimulation our minds become more constrained, given how dominant human vision is over the other senses when it comes to many things.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:30:36am

re: #61 freetoken

The advantage of reading is that it activates the mind more than sitting and watching a screen, so the reader’s brain fills in details which are not on the page.

Watching a movie is passive and because it centered around visual stimulation our minds become more constrained, given how dominant human vision is over the other senses when it comes to many things.

Sure, and movies typically abridge and modify the book’s details to compress everything into 2-3 hours viewing time.

Another point to consider is Rowling’s choice of setting. Most of the action in the movies and books takes place in an around Hogwarts, aside from occasional forays into Diagon Alley and the Ministry of Magic. We only get glimpses of the characters’ home life as it relates to the overall plot. If something doesn’t develop either plot or character, the author (or editor) omits it. Otherwise, the Harry Potter books would have been more like a George R.R. Martin never-ending opus.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:47:52am

re: #50 JordanRules

Good stuff social media person suddenly at the center of the sports world!

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Classy gesture by whoever is running that social media account. I must admit that I didn’t know about the Harvard women twenty years back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:50:06am

re: #38 austin_blue

Again, I’d like to apologize to the Board for going off on the troll in the last thread. I’ve tried to not do that. It’s ultimately feeding the troll and pretty damn stupid. But here’s the thing.

…..
Traditional government is his enemy. We have to understand this to understand Drumpf.

We absolutely need to understand this to realize how dangerous this man is.

Rant off.

A reminder to everyone who is praising the FBI today: during the election campaign in the fall of 2016, there were many newspaper/TV/radio reports that the New York office of the FBI was known as Trumpland and had intimate ties to Giuliani. Comey may have been pressured to release his October statement because of the leaks by those in the FBI who hated Clinton and supported Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:13:00am

re: #47 JordanRules


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What a surprise! Proof again that it’s not just Trump who is undermining democracy — it’s the entire Republican party.

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jeffreyw  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:27:54am

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Good morning!

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:36:15am

re: #34 freetoken

Reviewing the Harry Potter films and it strikes me that while the first one had its charms, as young children often have, as Harry and his friends grow older they come off more and more as rather dull of mind.

Somewhere in the middle of the series I lose interest.

Also, notice how it seems no one studies languages or match or science at Hogwarts?

Maybe that’s what happens when children have to take care of something their elders refuse to even talk about.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:38:53am

re: #36 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

It occurred to me. Hogwarts is more like a trade school than anything academic. Wouldn’t want to go there. And why do they have N.E.W.T.s when they don’t have post-Hogwarts education?

And while we don’t have those here in the US, my sister’s friends from Germany have done quite well going to trade schools.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:42:51am

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

A reminder to everyone who is praising the FBI today: during the election campaign in the fall of 2016, there were many newspaper/TV/radio reports that the New York office of the FBI was known as Trumpland and had intimate ties to Giuliani. Comey may have been pressured to release his October statement because of the leaks by those in the FBI who hated Clinton and supported Trump.

There were things going on from the FBI that do need to be investigated.

But that is what Congress is supposed to do.

That the current Congress is so lackadaisical in its responsibilities is damning.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:43:48am

re: #58 freetoken

Better hurry, your riches await:

Powerball jackpot climbs to $455 million for Saturday drawing

Hmmm… let’s see, $269 divided by 292 is $.92, still less than the cost of a ticket.

Sure, there are smaller winnings that are more numerous, so the expected value of a ticket is a bit higher than $.92, but not much.

The cost of a ticket is $2.

If the jackpot ever gets to a billion dollars, then I’ll buy a ticket.

What, are you buying 292M tickets? Of course lotteries are a way for governments to earn money off the poor that I don’t like, but at the same time, your return on winning $292 is not $.92 per ticket.

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:44:20am

re: #67 Belafon

Maybe that’s what happens when children have to take care of something their elders refuse to even talk about.

There is definitely an undertow of that in the movies.

So, we can blame Harry Potter for all those kids doing walk-outs!

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freetoken  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:45:25am

re: #70 Belafon

What, are you buying 292M tickets?

No.

The claimed odds of winning are a bit less than one in 292 million.

So you multiply the probability of winning by the amount to be won, and that gets you an expected value for a ticket.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:49:31am

We are doomed.

This is from a clickbait article on interracial marriage:

Commie rocker:

The same article credits Clarence Thomas with being the first African-American Supreme Court justice (Thurgood Marshall predated him by more than 20 years).

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:51:25am

re: #71 freetoken

There is definitely an undertow of that in the movies.

So, we can blame Harry Potter for all those kids doing walk-outs!

Harry Potter, the Hunger Games, the Maze Runner, etc. I don’t think Rowling was thinking that she was writing novels to help younger people figure out what their proper role in the upcoming world was, but she’s helped. I know that Suzanne Collins, the Hunger Games writer, wrote her books as warnings, which puts them squarely in the category of proper science fiction.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:55:45am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

We are doomed.

This is from a clickbait article on interracial marriage:

Commie rocker:

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The same article credits Clarence Thomas with being the first African-American Supreme Court justice (Thurgood Marshall predated him by more than 20 years).

There was a great Powerpuff Girls episode, called “Meet the Beat-Alls”, where all of their villains unite to defeat the girls. The tide turns when a female monkey shows up and splits Mojo Jojo from the group.

Edited because I found the full name of the title.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:01:20am

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

What a surprise! Proof again that it’s not just Trump who is undermining democracy — it’s the entire Republican party.

Our idea of democracy is “everyone who’s 18 or over gets to vote.”

Their idea of democracy is “everyone who’s a property-owning white man gets to vote.”

Therein lies the problem.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:03:28am

Why Trump is trying to get Stormy’s case moved to federal court:

Federal courts tend to more strictly enforce arbitration agreements, which could lead to Daniels being forced into a closed-door legal forum where an arbitrator has already issued an injunction against her. California courts tend to to be less friendly to arbitration.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:07:00am

Oh, and I wasn’t paying near enough attention to who David Dennison was:

Just to note, that was Cohen who submitted that.

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makeitstop  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:15:34am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:30:42am

re: #76 wheat-dogg

Our idea of democracy is “everyone who’s 18 or over gets to vote.”

Their idea of democracy is “everyone who’s a property-owning white Christian man gets to vote.”

Therein lies the problem.

Republicans only want White Male Christian property owners to vote, “just like the Founding Fathers intended”!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:32:13am

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans only want White Male Christian property owners to vote, “just like the Founding Fathers intended”!

Right. I forgot that part, though shutting out Jewish donors might be problematic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:32:41am

Hey, has anyone heard Franky Graham Cracker chime in on the latest move by Gawd’s Anointed King to take out Stormy?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:35:04am

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not yet. She may have some dirt on him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:36:08am

re: #81 wheat-dogg

Right. I forgot that part, though shutting out Jewish donors might be problematic.

Not really Wheat-Dogg. For years Fundy Xtians have been wanting to round all of us up and ship us to Israel just like their book of Fractured Fairy Tales says gots to happen before JC and his Sonshine Band pop in for their Armageddon Concert.

Oh, and that wonderful Xtian Zionist John Hagee says that at Armageddon, ALL Jews will die except 144,000 male virgins who will convert to Xtianity.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:39:26am

re: #78 Belafon

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!! His lawyer accidentally threw Trump under the bus.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:41:00am

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not really Wheat-Dogg. For years Fundy Xtians have been wanting to round all of us up and ship us to Israel just like their book of Fractured Fairy Tales says gots to happen before JC and his Sonshine Band pop in for their Armageddon Concert.

Oh, and that wonderful Xtian Zionist John Hagee says that at Armageddon, ALL Jews will die except 144,000 male virgins who will convert to Xtianity.

Oh, I know about the fundies. I was thinking more of the corporate Republicans who might not want to lose some donors with deep pockets. OTOH, the GOP could repeat the mistake Spain made in the 15th century.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:42:22am

re: #86 wheat-dogg

The GOP is making every mistake in the book because they did not read “the book.” “The book” being history in general.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:44:32am

re: #87 PhillyPretzel

The GOP is making every mistake in the book because they did not read “the book.”

The stupidity of many of the GOP “leaders” is stupefying. If they were as clever as they are venal, we’d be in big time trouble as a nation.

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William Lewis  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:55:04am

re: #17 EPR-radar

When religion and politics mix, the result is always dreadful.

There was never a union of church and state which did not bring serious evils to religion.

The Right Rev. John England, 1st Roman Catholic Bishop of Charleston, 1825.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:57:36am

re: #68 Belafon

And while we don’t have those here in the US, my sister’s friends from Germany have done quite well going to trade schools.

…where they teach much more than just job skills, or they’re prerequisites for the training in your trade.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:05:31am

re: #60 wheat-dogg

I can’t speak to the other kids’ situations, but Harry’s uncle and aunt were borderline abusive guardians and never let him out of the house, it seems. Hermione’s parents were muggles and presumably took her out on the summer holiday. Ron’s family were all wizards, so WTH knows what they did over the summer.

Besides, since when does fiction bother with characters’ off time? Did Christie tell us what Poirot did when he wasn’t working a case? Did Lee and Ditko go into the details of Peter Parker’s school day? It’s left to the reader (one presumes) to fill in those details.

The Weasleys were poor, but they travelled the one summer they could afford it (won a prize). But the adult economy is entirely missing from the books. (With a civil service job, why was Arthur so poor? Where did the Malfoys’ money come from? Or Harry’s?)

(How did Bilbo survive without a job before the dwarves arrived? Investments? What in the Shire was there to invest in?)

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:07:36am

re: #91 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The Weasleys were poor, but they travelled the one summer they could afford it (won a prize). But the adult economy is entirely missing from the books. (With a civil service job, why was Arthur so poor? Where did the Malfoys’ money come from? Or Harry’s?)

(How did Bilbo survive without a job before the dwarves arrived? Investments? What in the Shire was there to invest in?)

We have to watch reading kids books from an adult perspective. Where was Jane running to? Did they keep Spot on a leash? How often did they get his rabies shots?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:17:21am

re: #92 Belafon

We have to watch reading kids books from an adult perspective. Where was Jane running to? Did they keep Spot on a leash? How often did they get his rabies shots?

Not quite the same thing. The background doesn’t need to be fleshed out, but it should make some sort of sense. (I like the HP books, but I consider that a huge flaw in them.)

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:26:52am

re: #93 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Not quite the same thing. The background doesn’t need to be fleshed out, but it should make some sort of sense. (I like the HP books, but I consider that a huge flaw in them.)

Imagine being a kid at the school where Barron Trump is going. His parents have a huge influence on the things going on right now, but the kids don’t need to know it in order for them to go throughout their days.

As for the Weasleys being poor, I can explain that one pretty easy. He made a decent salary, I bet, but nothing spectacular. They had 5 kids. But they seem to be a very generous family, kind of like the one I grew up in. (In my family, there were only three kids, and we were very low middle class, so our meals tended to be one plate of food, but my parents would feed just about anyone who walked in, especially my brother’s friends whose parents were wealthy but neglectful.) Notice how much they took care of Harry. You tend to not have a whole lot left over after that.

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Jay C  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:27:27am

re: #91 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The Weasleys were poor, but they travelled the one summer they could afford it (won a prize). But the adult economy is entirely missing from the books. (With a civil service job, why was Arthur so poor? Where did the Malfoys’ money come from? Or Harry’s?)

(How did Bilbo survive without a job before the dwarves arrived? Investments? What in the Shire was there to invest in?)

Although Tolkien was fairly vague about the economic structures of Middle-Earth, The Shire was meant to be an analogue of pre-Industrial England, so one can assume that the Baggins family fortune derived -as did most affluent hobbits’ - from the classic foundation: rents (in cash or kind) from land ownership. Also Bilbo had a few economic adavatages.
- He was the sole heir to his father (who had married into money himself)
- He was a bachelor, with his cousin ( not nephew) Frodo as his only heir.
- His adventures with the Dwarves had netted him a tidy stash of gold and (likely) jewelry, which would have gone further in The Shire’s fundamentally non-cash economy; so boosting his relative affluence. Which, as JRRT reminds us, was legendary.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:31:59am

Because men are snowflakes.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:34:17am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:40:34am

re: #97 jaunte

Dowd can try to shut it down but as our own Lawhawk stated it will only be started up again by Congress. I think Keith Obermann also mentioned that fact too in his commentaries.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:41:39am

Clowns.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:42:27am
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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:44:06am

The problem they have is that Mueller cannot be removed in the same way that Comey could be. They have to justify removing him, and this group can’t justify why they get out of bed in the morning.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:46:03am

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

Dowd can try to shut it down but as our own Lawhawk stated it will only be started up again by Congress. I think Keith Obermann also mentioned that fact too in his commentaries.

Can you find a link to the comment? I have sincere doubts that a Republican-controlled Congress would do anything, unless he was referring to after the midterms when the political landscape is likely to look vastly different.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:48:44am

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No I am sorry I never bookmarked that comment. :(

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:53:30am

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can you find a link to the comment? I have sincere doubts that a Republican-controlled Congress would do anything, unless he was referring to after the midterms when the political landscape is likely to look vastly different.

Congress won’t do shit. But, the state attorney of NY is working with Mueller. Trump can’t shut them down or offer pardons for NY state laws that were broken. I lot of the financial crimes happened in NY. Trump, Trump Jr. and the rest are fucked.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:54:42am

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

Vanessa Trump can read the handwriting on the wall.

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Jay C  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:57:41am

re: #105 jaunte

Vanessa Trump can read the handwriting on the wall.

!!!TUO TEG

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:59:49am

re: #95 Jay C

Oh, I know what he was doing, and it’s why people (including me, for years) don’t notice. But the Shire is too small for that to work — way too many gentry in evidence.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:01:57am

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:03:36am

re: #108 I Would Prefer Not To

Very nice pun. :)

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:06:16am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:10:45am

re: #107 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Oh, I know what he was doing, and it’s why people (including me, for years) don’t notice. But the Shire is too small for that to work — way too many gentry in evidence.

You’re wondering about economics in a series of novels with ancient wizards, dwarves, elves and hobbits, a set of magic rings, ringwraiths, dragons, and shape shifting bears. Perhaps you’re being too analytical. Hmm?

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:12:24am

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

Very nice pun. :)

Time for your Punnishment.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:12:43am

And talking, walking trees.

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steve_davis  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:15:25am

re: #53 freetoken

The more the movies go on, the less sense any of the characters make.

When Harry was 11, of course he’d be enchanted by all sorts of magical things.

But in the middle of the series, when he’s supposed to be 15 or so, why would any 15 year old boy just sit around a house all summer? At that age I was working a summer job. But somehow all the characters, not just Potter, just twiddle away their summers apparently not doing anything.

And why don’t some of the older children in his House at school travel? Don’t they go anywhere?

Sure, I know the books are written for juvenile readers, which is why the setting takes place in a school, as that is what children today know as “childhood”. Something which, though, would not have been true even 150 years ago, which, given the way the movie brings the stories to life, is about the period in which the magical world in the UK seems to be stuck - the Victorian era.

The entire Hogwarts undertaking comes off as extremely weird, in regards to how youth 11-18 years old act. It’s all too simple.

oh good grief. It’s FICTION. And not only is it fiction, it’s magical escapist fiction. Kids don’t have summer jobs in Harry Potter for the same reason we don’t see people taking a shit on Gilligan’s Island: it’s completely outside of the genre that the creator is working in. “Why don’t they study science and math at Hogwarts?” They do study science and math at Hogwarts. It’s called Potions, and it’s taught by Professor Snape. It is basically chemistry, if chemistry labs could result in you being blown up at any time, rather than you simply not being able to determine why your potato slice turned brown. The story is geared towards kids, who already have to do all the mindless bullshit in the real world, like get summer jobs, or take tedious, idiotic language courses that result, after four years, in students who still can’t converse intelligibly in their language of choice. As opposed to that, kids come out of Hogwarts actually knowing stuff and being able to contribute to their magical society. “Why don’t the kids learn the same mindless bullshit that I had to learn in high school?” Because you weren’t born into the 1/10th of 1 percent of the population that can do high-order magic, and therefore, you had to learn mindless bullshit that would make you an effective drone in a capitalistic society. Hogwarts kids don’t learn that crap because they have no need of it. They don’t need to get in cars or planes to visit places. There are various magical ways of moving instantaneously between far reaches of the world.

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Skandal  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:16:45am
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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:18:19am

re: #114 steve_davis

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:19:50am

re: #96 Belafon

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Because men are snowflakes.

Well, there is one way to fix that.

Elect more women.

Maybe when men are the political minority and not in control they will learn some different perspectives. I don’t think that would be bad at all politically, it might put some emphasis on the social aspects and take away from the military thinking and put some balance back in it all.

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:19:54am

As much as I hoped McCabe wouldn’t get fired a day or two before his retirement, this was a very bad move for Trump. He just made more enemies and steeled the resolve of many inside and outside the FBI.

The only things Trump seems to be good at is making bad moves and making enemies.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:25:19am

re: #114 steve_davis

oh good grief. It’s FICTION. And not only is it fiction, it’s magical escapist fiction. Kids don’t have summer jobs in Harry Potter for the same reason we don’t see people taking a shit on Gilligan’s Island: it’s completely outside of the genre that the creator is working in. “Why don’t they study science and math at Hogwarts?” They do study science and math at Hogwarts. It’s called Potions, and it’s taught by Professor Snape. It is basically chemistry, if chemistry labs could result in you being blown up at any time, rather than you simply not being able to determine why your potato slice turned brown. The story is geared towards kids, who already have to do all the mindless bullshit in the real world, like get summer jobs, or take tedious, idiotic language courses that result, after four years, in students who still can’t converse intelligibly in their language of choice. As opposed to that, kids come out of Hogwarts actually knowing stuff and being able to contribute to their magical society. “Why don’t the kids learn the same mindless bullshit that I had to learn in high school?” Because you weren’t born into the 1/10th of 1 percent of the population that can do high-order magic, and therefore, you had to learn mindless bullshit that would make you an effective drone in a capitalistic society. Hogwarts kids don’t learn that crap because they have no need of it. They don’t need to get in cars or planes to visit places. There are various magical ways of moving instantaneously between far reaches of the world.

I don’t want to spend too much time on this, but the magical world is awfully stagnant, too. They’re using the same “chemistry book” that their parents used. And none of Snopes’ genuine innovations have found their way out of the margins of his textbook to the Wizarding world. (At least we now know why Snopes was really bullied — he was the class nerd and Potter and his gang were jocks.)

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:25:21am
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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:26:15am

re: #53 freetoken

The more the movies go on, the less sense any of the characters make.

When Harry was 11, of course he’d be enchanted by all sorts of magical things.

But in the middle of the series, when he’s supposed to be 15 or so, why would any 15 year old boy just sit around a house all summer? At that age I was working a summer job. But somehow all the characters, not just Potter, just twiddle away their summers apparently not doing anything.

And why don’t some of the older children in his House at school travel? Don’t they go anywhere?

Sure, I know the books are written for juvenile readers, which is why the setting takes place in a school, as that is what children today know as “childhood”. Something which, though, would not have been true even 150 years ago, which, given the way the movie brings the stories to life, is about the period in which the magical world in the UK seems to be stuck - the Victorian era.

The entire Hogwarts undertaking comes off as extremely weird, in regards to how youth 11-18 years old act. It’s all too simple.

I might point out that in the books, they DO do things in the summers. Families with money take trips and explore other cultures. The books have considerably more depth than the movies. As is usual.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:28:15am

re: #112 BigPapa

Time for your Punnishment.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:28:44am

re: #122 jaunte

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*WHACK!*

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:28:50am

re: #116 MsJ

You mentioned, a couple of threads back, that your iPhone photos are too big — there are photo shrinking apps for iPhone. See the App Store.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:29:09am

re: #118 BigPapa

As much as I hoped McCabe wouldn’t get fired a day or two before his retirement, this was a very bad move for Trump. He just made more enemies and steeled the resolve of many inside and outside the FBI.

The only things Trump seems to be good at is making bad moves and making enemies.

And that is just the continuing example of why he failed at so many businesses and why he had to look out of the country for funding. He ripped people off, made bad deals and business relationship and generally pissed everyone off.

He just moved the same ‘style’ of doing things to the White House. It really was to be expected…America just did not pay attention to see it would turn out this way.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:29:24am

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that a copy of Forbes or are you just happy to see me?

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makeitstop  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:29:27am

I ran out to buy cat food earlier and caught the top of the hour news on CBS.

CBS was not being kind to Trump, quoting the majority of McCabe’s response. They mentioned Dowd’s idiotic proposal to shut Mueller down and the subsequent walkback.

Trump. Dude. You fucked up. This is going to be one of the worst moves you ever made.

And ‘worst moves of Donald J. Trump’ is a goddamned high bar.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:30:30am

re: #126 jaunte

Is that a copy of Forbes or are you just happy to see me?

Wow, you got up on the awesome side of the bed this morning, didn’t you?

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:32:05am

I expect a wave of previous moderated voices to turn up the heat.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:32:14am

re: #128 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m hosting three grandchildren this morning, so, manic.

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retired cynic  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:32:16am

re: #74 Belafon

Harry Potter, the Hunger Games, the Maze Runner, etc. I don’t think Rowling was thinking that she was writing novels to help younger people figure out what their proper role in the upcoming world was, but she’s helped. I know that Suzanne Collins, the Hunger Games writer, wrote her books as warnings, which puts them squarely in the category of proper science fiction.

I think, in the beginning, Rowling was trying to figure out how she was going to survive as a single mom (mum).

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:35:09am

re: #130 jaunte

I’m hosting three grandchildren this morning, so, manic.

Start their early educations on puerile punnery and malevolent malapropisms.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:35:35am

re: #129 BigPapa

I expect a wave of previous moderated voices to turn up the heat.

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The non-spicy (by nature and/or career choice) folks are getting spicy. We need it!

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:36:17am

re: #127 makeitstop

I ran out to buy cat food earlier and caught the top of the hour news on CBS.

CBS was not being kind to Trump, quoting the majority of McCabe’s response. They mentioned Dowd’s idiotic proposal to shut Mueller down and the subsequent walkback.

Trump. Dude. You fucked up. This is going to be one of the worst moves you ever made.

And ‘worst moves of Donald J. Trump’ is a goddamned high bar.

He’ll glide right over the bar. I have complete confidence.

The problem is how long the GOP will let him keep setting new records?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:37:03am

re: #130 jaunte

I’m hosting three grandchildren this morning, so, manic.

That is an awesome way to spend a morning. A lot better than showing up to a pre-scheduled tire appointment to find out that they didn’t actually order the tires they would need.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:38:23am

re: #130 jaunte

I’m hosting three grandchildren this morning, so, manic.

Pencils, paints, nice paper…create.

Expand those minds, the world needs more artists and artistic thinking.

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jaunte  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:39:10am

re: #136 ObserverArt

This morning we’re doing nature hikes and now, snacks.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:39:54am
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:40:06am
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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:42:31am

re: #137 jaunte

This morning we’re doing nature hikes and now, snacks.

Good. Grab some simple digital cameras and take those sketch pads. Drawing a plant is tough, or close up images make people see nature like they never have.

I always liked to study nature up close to see the colors and textures. Take along a magnifying glass. Great for bugs.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:47:08am

re: #124 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

You mentioned, a couple of threads back, that your iPhone photos are too big — there are photo shrinking apps for iPhone. See the App Store.

Thanks! I just downloaded one.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:48:49am

re: #141 MsJ

Which one? I am looking for something like that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:57:45am

The silence of the RepubliKKKlan Party proves that Putin has Kompromat on them!

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 17, 2018 • 8:59:25am

re: #108 I Would Prefer Not To

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I’ll toke to that!

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:05:10am
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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:05:51am

re: #142 PhillyPretzel

Which one? I am looking for something like that.

Photo Compress - Shrink Pics. This one seems to store the pics in the App and are not accessible to upload here. They don’t show up in any albums if you access your pics, even when saving it in an existing folder.

Then I got Desqueeze. Still exceeded file size.

So far, no good. Ands I’m not willing to pay for one that won’t do what I want it to.

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:08:10am

re: #139 Unshaken Defiance

No one person has done more to disrespect the office of POTUS than Donald Trump. And the GOP has helped him do it along with Putin.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:14:43am

“GIF Maker” app. TONS of ads. Really annoying that they pop up in of places and every minute or so.

That said, here’s a pic from that app. I took it the other night but couldn’t upload it here.

Less than ideal but it functions.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:15:57am

re: #148 MsJ

$4.99 to purchase. Meh.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:17:09am

re: #146 MsJ

Thanks.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:17:42am
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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:18:45am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

Thanks.

A net positive if you want to create your own gifs. I don’t, but who knows.

Still not willing to pay for it.

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nines09  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:19:12am

Happy Saint Patrick’s Day.
Sláinte mhaith all you dirty sons of sons of filthy immigrants.
And remember, if you drink green beer you lose your “Irish For A Day” membership.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:21:01am

re: #153 nines09

Happy Saint Patrick’s Day.
Sláinte mhaith all you dirty sons of sons of filthy immigrants.
And remember, if you drink green beer you lose your “Irish For A Day” membership.

Top o’ the day, to ya!

You know what this means, right? Major sales on corned beef starting tomorrow.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:23:30am

re: #154 MsJ

Top o’ the day, to ya!

You know what this means, right? Major sales on corned beef starting tomorrow.

Ruebens!

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:33:51am

re: #155 ObserverArt

Ruebens!

Mmmmm!! Yummo!

I don’t eat it any longer but I *LOVE* Irish soda bread. I used to make it with raisins. So good.

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sagehen  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:41:37am

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can you find a link to the comment? I have sincere doubts that a Republican-controlled Congress would do anything, unless he was referring to after the midterms when the political landscape is likely to look vastly different.

Only if the various state election officials are able to keep Russians out of their machines.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:43:04am

re: #156 MsJ

This month’s issue of Cooks Illustrated has a recipe for Brown Irish Soda Bread.
cooksillustrated.com
It is behind a paywall but if you sign up for the 14 day trial you can get it.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:44:16am

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

This month’s issue of Cooks Illustrated has a recipe for Brown Irish Soda Bread.
cooksillustrated.com
It is behind a paywall but if you sign up for the 14 day trial you can get it.

I’m doing Keto (ultra low carb). No bread of any kind for me. But thanks!!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:52:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:52:27am

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:53:22am
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wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:56:34am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

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There’s a guy in town who looks like an 80 or 90 yr. old version of Patrick Stewart. I smile every time I see him, and now he smiles back.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 9:58:51am

re: #162 MsJ

Question to the lizards… What happens if it is determined that Justice is working for the White House?

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:00:39am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:01:27am

Let’s say Mueller gets fired and the GOP still sits back and does nothing.

What recourse are we left with at that point?

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:01:49am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:13:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:13:39am

re: #168 Barefoot Grin

Ohhh snap! I’m loving Mccabe more and more.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:13:41am

Just got done canvassing. Talked to a Muslim American lady who says there’s a town council candidate running on “Kick out all the Muslims” but they’re not bigots or deplorable.//

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:15:19am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:15:43am

re: #171 JordanRules

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Smart move McCabe.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:16:48am

You like memos don’t you Nunes???

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Interesting Times  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:17:18am

re: #170 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

Just got done canvassing. Talked to a Muslim American lady who says there’s a town council candidate running on “Kick out all the Muslims” but they’re not bigots or deplorable.//

Wait, what?? She told you he wasn’t a bigot?

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:20:03am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Ohhh snap! I’m loving Mccabe more and more.

I’m not loving him in any way. But I don’t think after 20+ years he should have his pension fucked with. If he happens to have the goods on trump, great. But he, along with Comey, put their fingers on the scale of an election. That’s a part of a career I can’t ever forgive either of them.

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Varek Raith  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:21:19am
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:24:10am

re: #176 Varek Raith

When this was floated yesterday I thought…
Huh, another chance to test out the theory of whether there are any so-called moderate Republicans.

Nope. A Dem did it.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:24:22am

re: #171 JordanRules

Mr Mueller a Mr McCabe would like to see you in regard to your current investigation.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:28:45am

re: #177 JordanRules

When this was floated yesterday I thought…
Huh, another chance to test out the theory of whether there are any so-called moderate Republicans.

Nope. A Dem did it.

I think we can safely retire that theory. There isn’t a shred of evidence to support it.

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William Lewis  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:30:00am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:33:50am

re: #179 Skip Intro

I think we can safely retire that theory. There isn’t a shred of evidence to support it.

Right now, Rush Limbaugh is the most moderate Republican out there.

Let that sink in for a moment.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:34:14am

re: #174 Interesting Times

Wait, what?? She told you he wasn’t a bigot?

Ha. Phrased that badly I’m afraid. But man it’s awful with all these bigots encouraged by Trump.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:35:17am
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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:39:10am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:43:49am

re: #184 MsJ

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MRGA. Made Russia Great Again.

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Varek Raith  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:45:09am

re: #185 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

MRGA. Made Russia Great Again.

Are you Larry Kudlow?
/:P

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:46:20am

I’ll admit, I’m a bit perplexed by this too.
He really is just out here living his traitor life way too loud for my tastes. It’s likely that I just don’t understand well enough how utterly shameless people operate.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:50:34am

Oh!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:51:54am

re: #188 JordanRules

Oh!!!!

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Burn.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:53:08am

re: #188 JordanRules

Feel the walls closing in you orange fuck.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:53:14am

re: #188 JordanRules

All heck is going to break loose.

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Varek Raith  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:54:33am

Trump’s big mouth is his own worst enemy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:54:45am

re: #188 JordanRules

Oh!!!!

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Shit’s about to get real, yo.

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William Lewis  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:54:55am

Finishing my break, now back to finishing resume, cover letter & application to drop off Monday. It’s a full time Teller position at a local credit union. It’s something I think I’d be good at but we’ll see if they agree :)

A little light music for everyone.

Celtic Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb 2011

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:54:58am

Re-upping this one.

re: #133 JordanRules

The non-spicy (by nature and/or career choice) folks are getting spicy. We need it!

St. Patrick’s Day spicy!
Ironic considering the food and all. I love it all though. But I will bring some sort of hot sauce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 17, 2018 • 10:56:08am

re: #192 Varek Raith

Trump’s big mouth is his own worst enemy.

Probably the most dangerous thing anyone, including his lawyers, can say to him is, “Just don’t say anything about it.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:00:31am
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dangerman  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:05:11am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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As the House Intelligence Committee has concluded, there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign. As many are now finding out, however, there was tremendous leaking, lying and corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, Justice & State

Gee
What if the senate investigation doesn’t concur?

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The Spite House  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:07:20am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Man, this has been a long four years, but at least in November… oh wait

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:07:24am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Replying to @realDonaldTrump
Have we ever seen a more disgraceful spectacle in US politics than this narcissistic so-called president lashing out and attacking his own government? This is NUTS.

2:00 PM - Mar 17, 2018

Trump is NUTS.

And the pressure is building on him meaning he will be getting nuttier.

And the pressure on the Republican party is also building.

It can’t keep going like this. Something has to give.

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wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:08:23am
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:08:42am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:16:33am
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Jay C  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:16:57am

re: #200 ObserverArt

Trump is NUTS.

And the pressure is building on him meaning he will be getting nuttier.

And the pressure on the Republican party is also building.

It can’t keep going like this. Something has to give.

I’m wondering if someone in NY or L.A. or Washington isn’t hastily writing up a new pitch to the networks for next year’s reality-TV hit:

The Presidency Show!
With new Season Three Shockers! And An All-New Cast!

Michael Pence as “The President”
Nancy Pelosi as “The Speaker of the House”
Chuck Schumer as “Senate Majority Leader”

And premiering the new season: a Special Double Episode: “Veepstakes - who’ll be the Last Hack Standing???”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:18:27am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:18:45am
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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:19:29am

re: #206 Charles Johnson

How do you fix a major political party that is totally corrupt?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:20:26am

jeebus, so very much a fucking moron.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:22:44am

Asking Financial Advisers to Act in Their Clients’ Best Interest Is ‘Unreasonable’ Now

A divided federal appeals court on Thursday tossed out an Obama-era Labor Department rule that required financial investment advisers to act in the best interest of their clients. In a 2-1 ruling, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals said the fiduciary rule bears the hallmarks of “unreasonableness” and constitutes an arbitrary and capricious exercise of administrative power.

esquire.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:22:45am
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William Lewis  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:23:07am

re: #207 Skip Intro

How do you fix a major political party that is totally corrupt?

That’s just it - you can’t as long as there are 27% of the population that not only doesn’t care but revels in that corruption. We are paying the price for not doing reconstruction correctly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:24:24am

re: #206 Charles Johnson

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As a preliminary hypothesis, I believe that allowing one party to have complete control of the government is non-optimal. Without a legitimate minority check on the process, the tyranny of the majority can become a reality. The Founding Fathers never envisioned a scenario where a single political entity would be able to obtain control over the executive, legislative, and judicial branches all at the same time. The judicial was supposed to be impartial (though I understand how, with the appointment process, that is difficult to do; perhaps revamping that is a place to start). The legislative is, of course, the most glaring problem right now because Republicans have been changing all the rules on the fly, so it seems like we need to re-set some systems to prevent systemic abuse.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:24:26am

Quick reminder that Trump admitted at fundraiser last week that he just makes shit up. We’ve known it all along, but now he’s on tape saying it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:24:58am
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:25:07am

re: #201 wrenchwench

I loved this!!! Great use of some classic hip hop samples.

I’m a fan of this gentleman too.

Frank Waln “What Makes the Red Man Red”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:26:23am

re: #212 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As a preliminary hypothesis, I believe that allowing one party to have complete control of the government is non-optimal. Without a legitimate minority check on the process, the tyranny of the majority can become a reality. The Founding Fathers never envisioned a scenario where a single political entity would be able to obtain control over the executive, legislative, and judicial branches all at the same time. The judicial was supposed to be impartial (though I understand how, with the appointment process, that is difficult to do; perhaps revamping that is a place to start). The legislative is, of course, the most glaring problem right now because Republicans have been changing all the rules on the fly, so it seems like we need to re-set some systems to prevent systemic abuse.

And then the imperative of maintaining that tyranny leads to increasing authoritarianism as is happening with Xi in China.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:27:32am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

And then the imperative of maintaining that tyranny leads to increasing authoritarianism as is happening with Xi in China.

So the question is, once we break the Republican stranglehold on Washington, how do we manage to reset things so that such a dangerous concentration of power, stupidity, and ambition doesn’t come together again?

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:28:22am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ahhh…dismissed on something he reportedly did.

Let’s start throwing out some Republican Congresspeople for anything that is reported. Screw the facts…you’re gone!

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Jay C  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:29:07am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, so very much a fucking moron.

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RLY? SRSLY? He’s still banging away at that “hundreds of thousands in contributions” nonsense that was debunked as bullshit months ago? And REALLY expects that anyone outside the Trump Bubble is going to take it as anything but just more Presidential Fart Gas?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:29:27am

re: #217 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So the question is, once we break the Republican stranglehold on Washington, how do we manage to reset things so that such a dangerous concentration of power, stupidity, and ambition doesn’t come together again?

I think we have to find a better formula for representing urban populations for a start.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:31:17am

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Quick reminder that Trump admitted at fundraiser last week that he just makes shit up. We’ve known it all along, but now he’s on tape saying it.

I hope he remembers that getting people’s careers ruined by making shit up pissed people off and they will come back to take you on.

Trump keeps building new enemies. Not a good way to do politics in DC. Before long he’s going to have the whole town against him.

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Interesting Times  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:31:36am

:/

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:32:13am

re: #217 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So the question is, once we break the Republican stranglehold on Washington, how do we manage to reset things so that such a dangerous concentration of power, stupidity, and ambition doesn’t come together again?

Mandatory voting with a three day election.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:34:49am

Ending the electoral college.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:37:56am
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:38:17am

re: #222 Interesting Times

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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:39:14am

Wow.

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Belafon  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:39:30am

re: #222 Interesting Times

:/

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I understand, Sarah, bit until we create time machines, that isn’t much of a solution.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:40:28am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve always like this pic.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:40:41am
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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:41:46am

re: #229 Skip Intro

I guess embedded pics in tweets aren’t working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:42:58am

re: #231 Skip Intro

I guess embedded pics in tweets aren’t working.

looks fine to me

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:43:43am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

You see something? I don’t.

Firefox problems again, I guess.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:44:17am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Me too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:44:39am

re: #233 Skip Intro

You see something? I don’t.

Firefox problems again, I guess.

calista and the goofy-eyed bird?
I’m on firefox here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:45:00am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

calista and the goofy-eyed bird?
I’m on firefox here.

Yeah, I can see it just fine, on Chrome.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:45:55am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

So now I have to find out what the new version of Firefox changed. Swell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:47:39am
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Interesting Times  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:48:59am

re: #237 Skip Intro

So now I have to find out what the new version of Firefox changed. Swell.

I was recently updated to Firefox v 59.0.1 and all the pictures showed up for me. Try hard refresh or cache-clear…?

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:49:29am
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mmmirele  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:50:28am

re: #175 MsJ

I’m not loving him in any way. But I don’t think after 20+ years he should have his pension fucked with. If he happens to have the goods on trump, great. But he, along with Comey, put their fingers on the scale of an election. That’s a part of a career I can’t ever forgive either of them.

McCabe I’m not so worried about, but he has a wife and kids. I know his wife probably works, but his kids are still at home. Seriously, fucking with his pension fucks with his family. McCabe has problems, but man, you don’t fuck with a family’s livelihood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:50:30am

re: #239 Interesting Times

I was recently updated to Firefox v 59.0.1 and all the pictures showed up for me. Try hard refresh or cache-clear…?

same here…updated in the last couple of days, and I second your suggestions for a fix.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:51:39am
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dangerman  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:54:52am

re: #207 Skip Intro

How do you fix a major political party that is totally corrupt?

its way more than just a party problem

its truly fair voter registration, voting, counting, and districting

its that the “understood” mechanisms that everyone, everyone took for granted as the way things worked wouldn’t be abused

its that the congress, whatever it’s instant makeup, would always do its job - stand for itself and assert itself as an equal participant in governing

its that the press/media, while not required, would always do its traditional job - stand for itself, not be manipulated or used, and would hold politicians accountable while it seeked some sort of honest assessment of truth

this is not some kind of perfect storm
it is merely that they have all simply abdicated their roles at the same time

that’s just for starters what’s wrong

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dangerman  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:55:38am

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Quick reminder that Trump admitted at fundraiser last week that he just makes shit up. We’ve known it all along, but now he’s on tape saying it.

yeah but he was later “proven to be right” so it doesnt count that he was clueless and talking out his ass at the time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:56:30am
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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:58:22am
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Interesting Times  Mar 17, 2018 • 11:59:14am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Once again, alternative universe Bill Kristol is right:

In the end, such conduct necessarily taints the merits of the action against McCabe. Even if the Justice Department’s process proves pure as the driven snow and the case against McCabe proves compelling, who is going to believe—in the face of overt presidential demands for a corrupt Justice Department—that a Justice Department that gives the president what he wants is anything less than the lackey he asks for? The Justice Department career officials involved in this action know this. They know they are being made to look like lackeys, which may be reason to assume that they will have dotted every “i” and crossed every “t” in this instance—and that the facts against McCabe must be bad. But the politicization of law enforcement takes place either way—the latest and perhaps one of the most extreme instances of politicization in a chain of events that has embroiled the FBI in partisan politics since the beginning of the Clinton email investigation. If this action is the political attack that McCabe says it is, everyone involved is responsible for a terrible smear and a horrific abuse of a longtime public servant. But if the dismissal is absolutely justified and the public doesn’t believe that, the integrity of law enforcement suffers as well.

Strongly advise reading the whole thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:00:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:03:13pm
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Bass Reeves  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:04:25pm

That taking of Brian J to task last thread may have been a bit harsh. While I wouldn’t classify McCabe or Comey’s actions as ‘illegal’, their action (and inaction) in regards to the last election directly benefited Trump. Whether it was the lack of control over the NYFO (who I’m guessing all still have jobs and/or pensions), the public statement unnecessarily calling into question HRC’s judgement, or the letter, or the complete lack of information given to the general public that the Republican candidate for POTUS was potentially compromised by a foreign power, the FBI was not a well oiled professional machine in 2016, and their organization has had systemic flaws (some that mirror those in the entirety of the law enforcement community) for decades. It’s not trolling to be less than sympathetic to figures who failed in their duties and helped us get to this position.

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dangerman  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:04:32pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s memos on his interactions with Trump are in the hands of special counsel Robert Mueller

with the above note and after a dinner of corned beef and cabbage, i’ll sleep just fine tonight

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:05:37pm

re: #241 mmmirele

McCabe I’m not so worried about, but he has a wife and kids. I know his wife probably works, but his kids are still at home. Seriously, fucking with his pension fucks with his family. McCabe has problems, but man, you don’t fuck with a family’s livelihood.

And his reputation. I’d sure all these people for that.

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makeitstop  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:08:09pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s memos on his interactions with Trump are in the hands of special counsel Robert Mueller

oh boy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:09:51pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

He probably gift wrapped them and left it on Muellers desk on his way out.

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Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:10:20pm

re: #239 Interesting Times

That worked. Thanks.

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allegro  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:10:33pm

re: #254 makeitstop

oh boy

The snake is swallowing its own tail.

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BigPapa  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:10:49pm

Comey and McCabe should be made to account for the Comey Letter. But we’re far from having an environment where that can objectively happen.

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Jay C  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:10:57pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

calista and the goofy-eyed bird?
I’m on firefox here.

So am I, but what I got is the bird and goofy-eyed Calista…
Just one of those glitches, I’m sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:12:29pm

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m still gobsmacked that Sessions actually accused McCabe of “lack of candor under oath on several occasions”.

And just how is that worse that Sessions flat out lying during his confirmation hearings?

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:12:52pm

re: #251 Bass Reeves

I think his history of outright trolling came into play. And there were elements of hyperbole and bending of facts that aren’t present in your well laid out argument.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:13:51pm

Honestly I expect Sessions to be the next one out the revolving door.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:14:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:14:29pm

Sen Harris… Sessions will just lie, as he is known to do.

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makeitstop  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:15:55pm

re: #257 allegro

The snake is swallowing its own tail.

This is insane. But the most insane thing about it is that Trump could have just let McCabe retire and none of this would be happening.

But Trump had to be Big Tough Guy and fuck with McCabe’s pension. He makes a solid enemy who has receipts on something, and who knows how many more in the FBI who are going to accept this as the call-out that it is.

Trump could have avoided this. What a stupid son of a bitch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:18:17pm
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petesh  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:19:41pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sen Harris… Sessions will just lie, as he is known to do.

Sure, but Harris HAS to demand this. Not to do so would in effect be assuming that our system of government is permanently gone. That’s her job and I glad she is trying to do it.

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JordanRules  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:23:25pm

Thread!

“Chuck - It is serious”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:23:26pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:24:16pm
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The Major  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:24:23pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:24:30pm

re: #268 JordanRules

Quite serious. It has been for many months.

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ckkatz  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:25:33pm

re: #231 Skip Intro

I guess embedded pics in tweets aren’t working.

I occasionally have similar problems with Firefox. probably because I have way too many windows open. Which, I assume, screws up some buffer.

A shutdown and restart of Firefox has always worked for me.

Alternatively (in Windows 10), right clicking on the comment number and bringing up the comment in a separate window has always allowed me to see the missing content.

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MsJ  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:27:51pm

re: #265 makeitstop

This is insane. But the most insane thing about it is that Trump could have just let McCabe retire and none of this would be happening.

But Trump had to be Big Tough Guy and fuck with McCabe’s pension. He makes a solid enemy who has receipts on something, and who knows how many more in the FBI who are going to accept this as the call-out that it is.

Trump could have avoided this. What a stupid son of a bitch.

Which will now keep this in the public eye for months. The stupidity is stunning, really.

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dangerman  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:28:45pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

the tactic has arrived

and its not muslims

quelle surprise

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:47:26pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m still gobsmacked that Sessions actually accused McCabe of “lack of candor under oath on several occasions”.

And just how is that worse that Sessions flat out lying during his confirmation hearings?

Depends on who is doing the judging. Sessions in this case is the final decision maker. I’m not sure how he is challenged. In Sessions own case, the judges we’re Republicans and they have let him slide.

Shows the need for impartiality because this all stinks.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:54:12pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Whoa…that is quite the response from Swalwell.

Up to this tweet he has played his comments straight politically. He has never made any kind of comment that I’ve heard that more or less says “you’re going down Trump” like he did in that tweet.

We have to be getting close to this coming to some kind of collision. I’ve said it before…the Trump train is on the same tracks as the Mueller investigation, one heading west the other east. There is going to be a crash.

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ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2018 • 12:57:04pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sen Harris… Sessions will just lie, as he is known to do.

Sessions (Probably): “I can’t remember why I fired him. I can recall that I may have, but it is not clear to me now. I am sure it was done in the most legal way possible because I do believe in the law.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2018 • 1:32:53pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I was honored to vote for her.

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lawhawk  Mar 17, 2018 • 5:49:07pm

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can you find a link to the comment? I have sincere doubts that a Republican-controlled Congress would do anything, unless he was referring to after the midterms when the political landscape is likely to look vastly different.

It would have to be in January 2019 after the new Congress is seated - with Democrats in the majority.


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