Chaos Watch! Jeff Sessions Announces He’s Firing FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe a Day Before His Retirement

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Whoa now.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night fired former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, a little more than 24 hours before McCabe was set to retire.

Sessions announced the decision in a statement just before 10 p.m., noting that both the Justice Department Inspector General and the FBI office that handles discipline had found “that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.”

He said based on those findings and the recommendation of the department’s senior career official, “I have terminated the employment of Andrew McCabe effective immediately.”

The move will likely cost McCabe a significant portion of his retirement benefits, though it is possible he could bring a legal challenge.

And something really stinks here.

UPDATE at 3/16/18 7:19:03 pm by Charles Johnson

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217 comments

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:10:44pm

Someone gave Trump TV the story in advance, and they fumbled it out.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:11:55pm

News comes at you fast in the Drumpfepoche.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:12:33pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:12:50pm

re: #1 jaunte

That tweet is timestamped three and a half hours ago. The link is a 404 now.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:13:41pm

The knives are going to come out.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:13:57pm

NO CHAOS! YOU’RE THE CHAOS!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:14:06pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

That tweet is timestamped three and a half hours ago. The link is a 404 now.

They released it prematurely & got caught.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:14:30pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

The knives are going to come out.

They’ve been out. Now come the AR-15s.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:14:33pm

They fucked him out of his pension.

Now this is sending a chill through EVERYONE in the Civil Service!

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:14:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:14:52pm

This is so insane.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:15:15pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

It sure looks like Fox is running the country.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:15:15pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

They released it prematurely & got caught.

So Trump TV knew in advance. This banana republic shit is coming too fast, man.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:15:15pm
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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:15:25pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

This is so insane.

It’s desperation.

This is what regimes do when they know the walls are closing in.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:16:21pm

The GOP candidate in Maine who called Emma a skinhead lesbian has withdrawn after going from no challengers to both Republican, Thomas Martin, Jr., and Democratic, Eryn Gilchrist, challengers. Check out his withdrawal comment:

“I am not walking away with my head hung low. I am walking away with my head held high,” Gibson said Friday.

Gibson said he made the decision after talking with his family, praying and discussing it with friends and colleagues, including Martin.

“It’s the best thing for everybody,” Gibson said.

He said he’s going to try to “get some peace and quiet in our lives” after the turmoil of recent days.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:16:28pm

I posted it as a private comment yesterday, I now post it in public.

I truly fear that a coup is coming.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:17:04pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

They’ve been out. Now come the AR-15s.

AR stands for assault rifle.
//

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:17:29pm
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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:17:56pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

I see you, switching on that gun pedant bat signal.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:18:02pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

I posted it as a private comment yesterday, I now post it in public.

I truly fear that a coup is coming.

Fortunately, for us, the Trump crime family is hated by more and more of the mainstream America.

And the reason Trump and Sessions are firing who the are is because these are the people they can fire. Most of the government is actually unfireable by them.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:18:15pm

re: #20 jaunte

lol

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:18:33pm

No coup, you’re the coup. I dunno what’s next but that’s how it is when the shit hits the fan. Stay tuned!

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:19:02pm

re: #21 freetoken

But are they hated by the military and police?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:19:13pm

re: #23 petesh

NO PENSION! YOU’RE THE PENSION!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:19:19pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:19:54pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

I posted it as a private comment yesterday, I now post it in public.

I truly fear that a coup is coming.

What, are you hearing grumblings from the military?

As fucked up as this is, there are lots of people around keeping this contained. Trump’s still having to deal with courts. He’s watching elections turn against him.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:19:54pm

I hate these motherfuckers.

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:20:05pm

PS Stocks of strong drink seem advisable. That and a strong sense of humor (& stomach).

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LastYearsMan  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:20:11pm

This is like something out of The Wire.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:20:12pm

Have any Republicans had anything to say today?

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:20:51pm

re: #31 Skip Intro

Have any Republicans had anything to say today?

Publicly?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:20:58pm

Trump just made every agent at the FBI his enemy. No one at the bureau wants to see anyone lose their pension after 20 plus years of service. This is the Friday night massacre that will bite trump in the ass.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:04pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:10pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I get this feeling McCabe may be willing to talk about everything not classified.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:25pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

I posted it as a private comment yesterday, I now post it in public.

I truly fear that a coup is coming.

If the Republican Congress won’t get off its ass and do the obvious thing by impeaching Trump and removing him from office, a US military coup may very well be the better option (although still disastrous).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:31pm

Just fucking unreal. We’re watching the federal government come apart at the seams.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:33pm

re: #33 I Would Prefer Not To

Trump just made every agent at the FBI his enemy. No one at the bureau wants to see anyone lose their pension after 20 plus years of service. This is the Friday night massacre that will bite trump in the ass.

Exactly.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:21:38pm

re: #32 petesh

Publicly?

Of course.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:22:03pm

re: #31 Skip Intro

Have any Republicans had anything to say today?

Are you serious?

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LastYearsMan  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:22:13pm

Cuz how do you know it’s really power if you don’t abuse it?

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:23:07pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

I thought maybe Hillary might have done something bad today.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:23:36pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:24:06pm

Trump is going to use the nukes the moment humiliating federal agency officials stops being sexually arousing.

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:24:37pm

re: #39 Skip Intro

Of course.

Publicly? They’re stupid but mostly not THAT dumb.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:24:44pm

I guess Trump never heard of Mark Felt.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:25:23pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

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In Great Briton the Civil Service would bring down a government that pulled shit like this. I hope ours does the same.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:25:40pm

A pre-written story about a high-profile firing that is rumoured in the media and on social media is not necessarily a smoking gun.

FOX can plausibly say that they expected the firing (as many other people also said), and wrote a “bare-bones” story with dates and times to be filled in, for a breaking story if it occurred (similar to contingency planning in the military).

It is similar to pre-written obituaries of famous people (which also sometimes get accidentally released).

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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:26:04pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

Trump is going to use the nukes the moment humiliating federal agency officials stops being sexually arousing.

Pray for disobedience with honor.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:26:04pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:26:44pm

I went to go read the Wikipedia entry on the Teapot Dome Scandal. Some interesting stuff in the investigation section:

In April 1922, a Wyoming oil operator wrote to Senator John B. Kendrick, angered that Sinclair had been given a contract to the lands in a secret deal. Kendrick did not respond, but two days later on April 15, he introduced a resolution calling for an investigation of the deal.[5] Republican Senator Robert M. La Follette Sr. of Wisconsin led an investigation by the Senate Committee on Public Lands. At first, La Follette believed Fall was innocent. However, his suspicions deepened after his own office in the Senate Office Building was ransacked.[6]

Democrat Thomas J. Walsh of Montana, the most junior minority member, led a lengthy inquiry. For two years, Walsh pushed forward while Fall stepped backward, covering his tracks as he went. No evidence of wrongdoing was initially uncovered as the leases were legal enough, but records kept disappearing mysteriously. Fall had made the leases appear legitimate, but his acceptance of the money was his undoing. By 1924, the remaining unanswered question was how Fall had become so rich so quickly and easily.

Money from the bribes had gone to Fall’s cattle ranch and investments in his business. Finally, as the investigation was winding down with Fall apparently innocent, Walsh uncovered a piece of evidence Fall had forgotten to cover up: Doheny’s $100,000 loan to Fall.

This discovery broke the scandal open. Civil and criminal suits related to the scandal continued throughout the 1920s. In 1927 the Supreme Court ruled that the oil leases had been corruptly obtained. The Court invalidated the Elk Hills lease in February 1927 and the Teapot Dome lease in October. Both reserves were returned to the Navy.[7]

Another significant outcome was the Supreme Court’s ruling in McGrain v. Daugherty (1927) which, for the first time, explicitly established that Congress had the power to compel testimony.[10]

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:27:08pm

CNN
Politico

So far

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:27:56pm

re: #46 Ace Rothstein

I guess Trump never heard of Mark Felt.

He’s never heard of Clyde Tolson.

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Skandal  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:29:17pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:30:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:30:50pm

re: #36 EPR-radar

If the Republican Congress won’t get off its ass and do the obvious thing by impeaching Trump and removing him from office, a US military coup may very well be the better option (although still disastrous).

Military coups end democracies and civil rights.

As horrendous as all this is, it is unlikely Trump or his allies can’t do permanent damage (though they can do significant damage) before the election.

You don’t want a military coup. You want as many people as possible voting in every election, as if their lives depend on it.

Conservatives drive their voters to the polls through fear (Teh Geyh! Abortion! They’re going to take our GUNZ!). Liberals now have a good fear reason to drive voters to the polls: Conservatives are trying to take our democratic republic away.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:31:54pm
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petesh  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:32:37pm

November is too late now. We can’t last the summer. HE can’t.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:33:23pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:34:26pm

re: #58 petesh

November is too late now. We can’t last the summer. HE can’t.

That business about Trump ‘dying in prison’ needs to become real, as opposed to being just a Twitter fantasy.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:34:35pm
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The Major  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:36:08pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:36:24pm

re: #58 petesh

November is too late now. We can’t last the summer. HE can’t.

Yes we can.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:36:24pm

re: #61 jaunte

The firing of McCabe is just another attempt at obstruction of justice.

As such, this McCabe thing is more evidence.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:37:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:37:37pm

re: #58 petesh

November is too late now. We can’t last the summer. HE can’t.

We can’t survive a military coup.

Name a military coup that benefited democracy or upheld civil rights such as free speech or a right to be secure in your person or papers.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:37:39pm

re: #64 freetoken

Trump will have to discredit/get rid of Sessions now.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:38:42pm
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mmmirele  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:38:49pm

I just read Andrew McCabe’s statement. He is completely out of fucks to give.

I am going to embroider this someday, but today is not it.
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:39:08pm

re: #67 jaunte

Trump will have to discredit/get rid of Sessions now.

The Saturday Night Massacre will be televised/live blogged. And it’s almost Saturday.

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TedStriker  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:39:30pm

re: #67 jaunte

Trump will have to discredit/get rid of Sessions now.

Old rule of bad guys everywhere: Assassinate the assassins.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:39:51pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

We can’t survive a military coup.

Name a military coup that benefited democracy or upheld civil rights such as free speech or a right to be secure in your person or papers.

The moment we rely on a military coup means we will always have to rely on a military coup. It’s entirely up to us to fix this, by staying angry and focused, and getting people to the polls, and then getting the newly elected officials to do their jobs.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:39:56pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

I keep thinking at what point do we run out of time. November is looking awfully far away.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:40:26pm

I like the word ‘sacked’ better than ‘fired.’

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:40:59pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

Military coups end democracies and civil rights.

As horrendous as all this is, it is unlikely Trump or his allies can’t do permanent damage (though they can do significant damage) before the election.

You don’t want a military coup. You want as many people as possible voting in every election, as if their lives depend on it.

Conservatives drive their voters to the polls through fear (Teh Geyh! Abortion! They’re going to take our GUNZ!). Liberals now have a good fear reason to drive voters to the polls: Conservatives are trying to take our democratic republic away.

Nobody wants a US military coup, but I’m watching US checks and balances fail like the dominos fell in SE Asia. If the elections in 2018 and/or 2020 go poorly and/or get stolen by Republicans, that would pretty much end things anyway.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:42:10pm

re: #73 Skip Intro

I keep thinking at what point do we run out of time. November is looking awfully far away.

The good news is, as I wrote before, I’m pretty sure the majority of Americans have concluded that Trump and his gang have to go.

The programmed, and I do mean programmed as in cultic, hate-right noise machines one finds on social media are doing their best to shout loudly, in an attempt to make it seem like they are either some moral majority or at least potent. But they are neither.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:42:56pm
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Woods Witch  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:43:01pm

re: #63 Belafon

We have to hold out. Only a blue wave in November can put the brakes on this corrupt administration. Trump no longer in office does not solve the problem. If anything, it makes it worse. The words President Pence are not words I want to hear…ever

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:43:14pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

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CNN
Politico

So far

Actually, quite a smart move: seizing the narrative will make the whole firing thing look to be about The Orange Anus and his Administration creatures trying to silence/punish a long-serving professional G-Man for investigating/uncovering Trumpian corruption and/or coverup. Despite the DoJ’s harrumphing, what’s going to be the Admin’s defense of McCabe’s humiliating sacking? They have little-enough credibility left by this point*, if they try to make the whole thing about “Hillary’s emails” yet again, they will (as noted above) have made bitter enemies of the FBI, and made themselves look ever more-and-more guilty.

* Except, of course, with Fox News and RW media - but I just wonder how much real effect (outside of the hopelessly deluded 27%) that’s going to have in the face of “REAL reality”.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:43:27pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:45:51pm

re: #73 Skip Intro

I keep thinking at what point do we run out of time. November is looking awfully far away.

I feel for those of you who think that getting to November is what will end this. Even if we win both chambers on a miracle, things will only be getting started. The only way we’ll have any kind of leverage in the Senate beyond investigating is if us, the voters, scare the remaining Republicans.

What just happened isn’t the end of the Republic. What’s going to happen over the next few months won’t be either. Will it be pretty? No. But he’s increasingly boxing himself in.

It’s going to be up to us to hold it together. It’s not over until we give up. I would hate to think that we can’t hold up as well as kids who got shot at and had their friends taken from them.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:47:14pm
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mmmirele  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:47:27pm

On a completely different subject, someone I know pointed this out to me. I would have never seen it otherwise as my boycott of anything coming from Fox News is very nearly complete. However, this is a piece about Rachael Denhollander, the former gymnast who was the first to report sexual assault by Larry Nassar, and her current crusade to bring child sexual abuse to light within the Evangelical churches.

Rachael Denhollander on The Story with Martha Maccallum

I watched the entire thing and it’s truthful. It’s this situation (the coverup of child sexual abuse within the “Sovereign Grace” churches) that I will be picketing April 11-13 in Louisville. However, in the last 24 hours I’ve also got to add how another primary speaker at this event (John Piper) opened his big fat mouth..;

I have let him have it, several times:

I am going to have *so much fun* in Louisville protesting these guys!

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:50:06pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:50:15pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

That’s cool you found (made?) a GIF of all of McCroskey’s vices.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:50:36pm

And, BTW, I really believe we will come out the other side. Changed, obviously, but we will emerge on the other side still a Republic.

I managed to make it through the Navy. The country can survive this.

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:51:26pm

re: #83 mmmirele

I suppose this patriarchal twit wouldn’t approve of spouses protecting each other? Men and women going forward together and all that? I almost, but not quite, feel sorry for him.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:51:48pm

re: #81 Belafon

I feel for those of you who think that getting to November is what will end this. Even if we win both chambers on a miracle, things will only be getting started. …..

Winning in November will be the beginning of the end, at least for the current Administration.

But this is a battle that started long ago, around 1860 or so.

It is not by chance that Trumpers rally around the Confederate flag.

Trump has, and continues, to benefit from working the hate-filled Americans who are still grieving their loss long ago.

I suppose in the future someone will look back and say we had to go through all of this, to expose the deep problems in the American government and Constitution as they exist, being outdated.

My hope is that the idiot in Oval Office doesn’t start a shooting war that kills millions. That’s something that nothing can repair.

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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:54:22pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

They’ve been out. Now come the AR-15s.

I’ll believe that when I start seeing the F(S)BI agents actually plugging each other. McCabe was a thief who repeatedly leaked anti-Clinton lies and is being Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves. Spare me any encomiums to this Cheeto-flavoted POS.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:54:32pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Nobody wants a US military coup, but I’m watching US checks and balances fail like the dominos fell in SE Asia. If the elections in 2018 and/or 2020 go poorly and/or get stolen by Republicans, that would pretty much end things anyway.

And I’m watching special elections such as Penna., Wisc., and Ala. all flip to Democrats.

There will be plenty of poll-watching and such for the election in November. The Democrats job between now and November is to remind the squishy middle that the middle ground is disappearing and they have to pick sides.

We’ve elected transgender women to a school board in Penna. and the House of Delegates in Va. Gerrymandering cases against Penna. have gone in our favour. The case in Wisconsin and Maryland has been heard by the Supreme Court and a decision is expected soon.

There is no reason to believe that if ordered (by who?) the military would turn their guns against friends, family, neighbours, &c.

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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:55:14pm

re: #87 calochortus

I suppose this patriarchal twit wouldn’t approve of spouses protecting each other? Men and women going forward together and all that? I almost, but not quite, feel sorry for him.

He no doubt approves of incubators, i mean wives protecting husbands.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:56:10pm

re: #89 Brian J.

Um… so you’re saying what Sessions did tonight was the correct thing to do?

Dude, go troll somewhere else.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:57:33pm
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MsJ  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:57:38pm

re: #86 Belafon

And, BTW, I really believe we will come out the other side. Changed, obviously, but we will emerge on the other side still a Republic.

I managed to make it through the Navy. The country can survive this.

I’m only worried about a nuclear “distraction”. Cornered animals are there most dangerous. If we nuke some populous, I’m not sure we can survive that. From a global perspective.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:57:47pm

You know the best part? McCabe was a senior manager for several years for…Mueller.

This Admin can’t hit their asses with both hands. Try to gut the pension of one of Mueller’s top aides for no real reason, except butt hurt and hubris?

Go ahead, poke the hornet’s nest, you fucking morons.

Sessions is now directly in the crosshairs for obstruction, and he hoisted himself on his own petard.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:57:49pm
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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:58:01pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Um… so you’re saying what Sessions did tonight was the correct thing to do?

Dude, go troll somewhere else.

Right thing, wrong reason. McCabe deserves every bit of humiliation he gets for installing the men who fired him. Like Comey, he deserves his day before a New Nuremberg Tribunal; he deserves no sympathy for being a thief who had a falling out with bigger thieves.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:58:39pm

trump fires sessions and his replacement fires mueller
congress does nothing
midterms eradicate the gop
trump declares the election void and orders the new congress to not be seated
house and senate ignore this declaration and seats new congress

not sure what happens after that except maybe impeachment

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:58:57pm

re: #88 freetoken

Winning in November will be the beginning of the end, at least for the current Administration.

But this is a battle that started long ago, around 1860 or so.

It is not by chance that Trumpers rally around the Confederate flag.

Trump has, and continues, to benefit from working the hate-filled Americans who are still grieving their loss long ago.

I suppose in the future someone will look back and say we had to go through all of this, to expose the deep problems in the American government and Constitution as they exist, being outdated.

My hope is that the idiot in Oval Office doesn’t start a shooting war that kills millions. That’s something that nothing can repair.

That’s the reason Republicans in Congress are letting him run roughshod. What happened in 2016 is their last moment unless we give up. We’re obviously not going to win everything, but we’re going to gain a whole lot back in 2018, and more in 2020. And, if Democrats can take care of EVERYONE, meaning all of the diverse groups in the Democratic coalition, which, luckily, will benefit almost all Americans, then we can hold majorities for a while, and undo some things. So, they’re trying to break as much stuff as they can.

Now, this is America. There are things that need to be fixed that I’m not sure can be without another Great Depression. Things like tax levels, education, and taking care of our fellow citizens. I’m hoping we can, but it’s going to take some serious conversations. But, unlike the 60s and 70s, we should finally be able to overcome the racism that has let the GOP destroy what has been good about us.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:59:11pm

re: #89 Brian J.

Until there is either a trial or a Congressional hearing who publish actual findings (and not spurious memos), we really don’t have access to the evidence about what did or did not occur.

For now, it seems that this firing is just mean spirited.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 7:59:58pm

re: #89 Brian J.

I’ll believe that when I start seeing the F(S)BI agents actually plugging each other. McCabe was a thief who repeatedly leaked anti-Clinton lies and is being Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves. Spare me any encomiums to this Cheeto-flavoted POS.

A bridge too far, with additional innuendo. Don’t.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:00:50pm
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electrotek  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:01:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:01:19pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump fires sessions and his replacement fires mueller
congress does nothing
midterms eradicate the gop
trump declares the election void and orders the new congress to not be seated
house and senate ignore this declaration and seats new congress

not sure what happens after that except maybe impeachment

Trump is not a king, no matter how much he thinks he is. Regardless of how many seats flip to Democrats in the election, I doubt GOP Representatives and Senators would stand for being told to go home either.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:02:00pm

re: #101 austin_blue

When he’s not providing good election result analysis from little-known but important elections, he’s a shitposter, a rather vicious one at that.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:02:04pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

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Exactly. Deadline WH is full of ass covering shit.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:02:11pm

re: #96 jaunte

Generally speaking, civil service is cumulative.

I don’t know the rules on mixing Civil Service and Executive Service retirements, but I doubt his Civil Service retirement can be taken away without a hearing.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:02:37pm

re: #94 MsJ

I’m only worried about a nuclear “distraction”. Cornered animals are there most dangerous. If we nuke some populous, I’m not sure we can survive that. From a global perspective.

This particular thing reminds me of living through the Cold War, or what the South Koreans are living through right now. There’s not much worrying will do. It interferes with fighting, and, as it was back in the 70s and 80s, worrying about it interferes with living. It’s almost like worrying about a jet engine falling out of a plane and landing on your bed, but at least with Trump, we can work to get him out of office.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:04:57pm

re: #97 Brian J.

Right thing, wrong reason. McCabe deserves every bit of humiliation he gets for installing the men who fired him. Like Comey, he deserves his day before a New Nuremberg Tribunal; he deserves no sympathy for being a thief who had a falling out with bigger thieves.

What in the Wide Wide World of Sports are you talking about? McCabe installed Sessions? Really?

That’s just crazy talk. Comey and McCabe have blood on their hands for the Hillary letter late in the race, but, c’mon, don’t be a complete idiot.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:05:00pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

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Kelly is as big a POS as anyone in the administration. My guess is that he is such a leaking SOB to the press that they din’t say anything bad about their source.

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:05:02pm

re: #100 freetoken

Until there is either a trial or a Congressional hearing who publish actual findings (and not spurious memos), we really don’t have access to the evidence about what did or did not occur.

For now, it seems that this firing is just mean spirited.

It’s making the Freepers very happy though-soon everyone they don’t like will be in jail…

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:06:23pm

re: #108 Belafon

I’m not worried as in losing sleep. But I am concerned because we’d all become global pariahs.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:06:49pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:07:05pm

re: #109 austin_blue

What in the Wide Wide World of Sports are you talking about? McCabe installed Sessions? Really?

That’s just crazy talk. Comey and McCabe have blood on their hands for the Hillary letter late in the race, but, c’mon, don’t be a complete idiot.

Like Comey, it’s not about who was fired but what was done to him, a career employee fired two days before retirement for petty reasons, and to threaten other career employees who might oppose the administration.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:07:38pm

Well when I started as a Federal Civil Service I was informed of the consequences of losing your pension under the “Hiss Act” BUT that law only comes into play IF you have been convicted of a felony.

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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:07:49pm

re: #109 austin_blue

What in the Wide Wide World of Sports are you talking about? McCabe installed Sessions? Really?

McCabe installed Trump who installed Sessions. This isn’t hard.

That’s just crazy talk. Comey and McCabe have blood on their hands for the Hillary letter late in the race, but, c’mon, don’t be a complete idiot.

And yet you refuse to take the next logical step, and you hail the villain McCabe as a hero. He’s lucky to still be breathing, and he HAS to know it. If he had sense, he’d call an immediate press conference and divulge everything he knows about his hand in the NYC FBI conspiracy. Or maybe head to the French or German embassy to plead for political asylum.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:08:12pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

Now they have people in the Oval Office, they’re using the spy ship to transport rum and cigars.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:08:32pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

Not as intriguing as it was in the old days, when they used to be disguised as fishing trawlers off the San Diego coast.

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Kragar  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:08:39pm
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thecommodore  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:09:10pm

In which Hugh Hewitt quotes a “Trump watcher” who compares him to Theodore Roosevelt:

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:10:11pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:10:35pm
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calochortus  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:11:28pm

re: #116 Brian J.

McCabe installed Trump who installed Sessions. This isn’t hard.

And yet you refuse to take the next logical step, and you hail the villain McCabe as a hero. He’s lucky to still be breathing, and he HAS to know it. If he had sense, he’d call an immediate press conference and divulge everything he knows about his hand in the NYC FBI conspiracy. Or maybe head to the French or German embassy to plead for political asylum.

I think you’re overstating it just a bit.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:13:07pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:13:13pm

re: #120 thecommodore

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:13:36pm

re: #120 thecommodore

In which Hugh Hewitt quotes a “Trump watcher” who compares him to Theodore Roosevelt:

Hugh Hewitt is a fool.

The Theodore Roosevelt who created the National Park System that Trump is trying to dismantle?

The Theodore Roosevelt who served in the US Army which Trump avoided with his alleged bone spurs?

The Theodore Roosevelt who argued for a socialised medical system that served all as he viewed it as a matter of national security, which Trump and his party vehemently opposes?

When Mr. Hewitt can dig up this caricature of Trump, let him bring that Trump forth.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:13:44pm
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Woods Witch  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:15:20pm
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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:16:16pm

re: #128 Woods Witch

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White supremacy uber alles. This has been tonight’s episode of Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:17:29pm

Jason Chatfield

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:17:29pm

Bracket news

CBS Sportsline
MichelleInSoCal Rank: 580993 Score 21

Bracket 2 Xtra Sports 1090
Round 1 21/28 (75%) 42 out of 56

Friend Bracket - waiting for results.

Too many upsets! I usually go for upsets, but this time picked the safe’s.

Report Ace!

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:19:49pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

You left out the part where it goes to the Supreme Court.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:20:42pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:21:38pm
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electrotek  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:21:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:21:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:22:01pm

Crooked

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Swampwitch  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:22:56pm

re: #83 mmmirele

You kicked some serious ass in that thread. Well done, you.
I don’t know how I missed following you, but I have rectified that situation.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:23:52pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

How many times are we going to be fed this bullshit? I’ve lost my taste for it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:25:36pm

re: #120 thecommodore

In which Hugh Hewitt quotes a “Trump watcher” who compares him to Theodore Roosevelt:

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well at the rate trump’s going, if he survives two full terms he ought to have about six secretaries of state

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:26:05pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

Crooked

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Yet, strangely, at the same time, lacking any coherent strategy, as if they think they can eventually find that one thing that will get them off the hook, but never realizing it’s not working.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:26:44pm
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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:27:02pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:27:36pm
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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:27:47pm

The irony keeps writing itself:

Trump’s Legal Team Says It Can Sue Stormy Daniels For $20 Million

Harder did not immediately respond to a HuffPost request for comment. He had earlier represented first lady Melania Trump in a lawsuit against the London-based Daily Mail. Before that, Harder had represented pro wrestler Hulk Hogan in his lawsuit against Gawker over its publication of a sex tape involving him.

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:28:12pm

re: #140 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

well at the rate trump’s going, if he survives two full terms he ought to have about six secretaries of state

1. Tillerson
2. Pompeo
3. Steve Miller
4. Jared
5. Ivanka
6. The guy who sits outside the SoS’s door

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:28:29pm

On MSNBC, William Kristol Lite is saying Sessions had to fire McCabe to keep himself and Mueller from being fired.

As if that was a good thing.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:29:09pm

Someday, after we make it through all this rolling disaster, it’ll make one hell of a TV mini-series.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:29:59pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

That was my first reaction too.

That is, Sessions is doing this to save his own skin.

As if Trump remembers any loyalty long enough to keep him from doing another impulsive move.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:30:10pm

re: #148 freetoken

I hope the BBC does it. They’re much better at this sort of thing.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:31:09pm

re: #116 Brian J.

McCabe installed Trump who installed Sessions. This isn’t hard.

And yet you refuse to take the next logical step, and you hail the villain McCabe as a hero. He’s lucky to still be breathing, and he HAS to know it. If he had sense, he’d call an immediate press conference and divulge everything he knows about his hand in the NYC FBI conspiracy. Or maybe head to the French or German embassy to plead for political asylum.

I don’t hail him as a hero. The letter came out on a Friday, if I remember correctly. By Tuesday, it was yanked because no additional information was discovered. The real villains in this were Anthony fucking Weiner and the Russians. In the previous six months, Bernie’s Purity Ponies and the SteinBots, abetted by Russian trolls and fake web sites, had poisoned Hillary’s well to the point where her getting elected was highly problematical.

Did the letter hurt? Probably. A little. But you release an October surprise *early* in October, not ten days before the election, when most people’s minds are made up.

Oh, and by the way, your last sentence is just the raving of a lunatic. McCabe did nothing illegal. Neither did Comey. Ill advised? Yes. Worthy of running off to a foreign embassy to seek asylum?

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you as stupid as that sounds?

Just fuck right off.

(Jeez, I haven’t posted anything like this in years! Why did I let this troll get under my skin in this way? Apologies to the rest of the Board. This man is a fool and I don’t suffer fools gladly, but damn. {pulls forelock})

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:31:51pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

Not to call Hunter unoriginal, but Herodotus said pretty much the same in the fifth century BCE.

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Kragar  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:35:03pm

re: #125 Joe Bacon 🌹

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dangerman  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:38:27pm

re: #116 Brian J.

McCabe installed Trump who installed Sessions. This isn’t hard.

And yet you refuse to take the next logical step, and you hail the villain McCabe as a hero. He’s lucky to still be breathing, and he HAS to know it. If he had sense, he’d call an immediate press conference and divulge everything he knows about his hand in the NYC FBI conspiracy. Or maybe head to the French or German embassy to plead for political asylum.

Shoo

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:39:54pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

Crooked

Trump has to work really hard to catch up on eight years of no drama under Obama.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:40:14pm

Kim Warp

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:40:16pm

Little UMBC just beat Virgina in the NCAA bball tourney. A #16 seed taking down a #1…that just also happened to be the #1 team in the nation through the year.

My best buddy I watch sports with is overjoyed. His nephew is an assistant coach. Pretty cool.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:42:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:42:47pm

re: #153 Kragar

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History how does it work? //

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:43:11pm

Firing Andrew McCabe on a Friday afternoon? Don’t they know how this Friday news dump thing works? You’re supposed to put out good news on a Friday.

Now it gets talked about all weekend.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:43:19pm

re: #149 freetoken

That was my first reaction too.

That is, Sessions is doing this to save his own skin.

As if Trump remembers any loyalty long enough to keep him from doing another impulsive move.

But the yam hates people who grovel. So he just got a two-fer, but still is fucked.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:43:50pm

My fave editorial cartoon of the week:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:45:00pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Little UMBC just beat Virgina in the NCAA bball tourney. A #16 seed taking down a #1…that just also happened to be the #1 team in the nation through the year.

My best buddy I watch sports with is overjoyed. His nephew is an assistant coach. Pretty cool.

I actually had UVA losing in the second round but still. Amazing upset. UVA wasn’t just a one, they were first overall.

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:45:37pm

re: #144 jaunte

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Kinda rude, but on point. Rather than just letting McCabe empty out his office and shuffle off to (at best) the second-tier-interview circuit, the assclowns just had to fire him in the full glare of publicity- late-on-Friday notwithstanding- thus ensuring that whatever negatives he might have brought to the Admin’s fight against the stench of campaign corruption are now going to be magnified. And, since McCabe was smart enough to get out ahead of the spin, he’s made himself (admittedly an otherwise unsympathetic character) into some sort of martyr to Trumpian pettiness and incompetence. With a (now) national megaphone, should he want to use it.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:46:14pm

Some guy responded “BUT WHAT ABOUT OBAMA AND HIS CRIMES!!11!!!!”

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:47:00pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Little UMBC just beat Virgina in the NCAA bball tourney. A #16 seed taking down a #1…that just also happened to be the #1 team in the nation through the year.

My best buddy I watch sports with is overjoyed. His nephew is an assistant coach. Pretty cool.

Awesome!

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mmmirele  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:49:13pm

re: #87 calochortus

I suppose this patriarchal twit wouldn’t approve of spouses protecting each other? Men and women going forward together and all that? I almost, but not quite, feel sorry for him.

I don’t. I’ve read about women at his former church (he’s the retired head pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis) treated like utter shit if they get divorced from their abusive husbands. I do feel sorry for his wife, Noel, however. I can’t imagine being married to Piper even fifty minutes and she’s been married to him over 50 years. I bet he’s spent the entire time belittling her and grinding her down.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:49:25pm

re: #165 MsJ

These boots are made for stompin’
And that’s just what they’ll do
When the Dems win back the Congress
They’re gonna stomp all over you

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Interesting Times  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:49:35pm
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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:49:41pm

re: #153 Kragar

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:51:48pm
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calochortus  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:53:47pm

re: #167 mmmirele

I don’t. I’ve read about women at his former church (he’s the retired head pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis) treated like utter shit if they get divorced from their abusive husbands. I do feel sorry for his wife, Noel, however. I can’t imagine being married to Piper even fifty minutes and she’s been married to him over 50 years. I bet he’s spent the entire time belittling her and grinding her down.

I did say “almost.” I can’t help but think happy people don’t try to control other people, or make them unhappy. But then, I’m a pie-eyed optimist, so there’s that.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:54:13pm

re: #171 jaunte

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Well, there ya go.

Now he’s going to Mueller’s team or testifying before it.

Smart move, Evil Elf!

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:55:18pm

re: #171 jaunte

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“Hey, Bob, you might have already looked over here, but my experience leads me to believe there’s a few threads to pull over here. Yeah, I’m doing it because I’m pissed off.” - Hopefully, McCabe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:55:55pm

re: #151 austin_blue

Did the letter hurt? Probably. A little. But you release an October surprise *early* in October, not ten days before the election, when most people’s minds are made up.

Most people’s minds may have been made up — but given the closeness of race, this last minute revelation may very well have affected the outcome. I personally know someone who detested Trump but the Comey statement reminded her, as she told me, of all the drama when Bill was President and she felt she couldn’t face that again. That said, she lives here in Illinois so it had no effect on the election, but it would not be surprising if it did influence the results.

In fact, doing things last minute may prevent the other side from an effective response. A lot of people voted early when this was still in play.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:55:56pm
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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:56:21pm

re: #173 austin_blue

Well, there ya go.

Now he’s going to Mueller’s team or testifying before it.

Smart move, Evil Elf!

Oh, and if Mueller hires him for five days, does it count it toward his retirement?

Hah!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 16, 2018 • 8:57:42pm

My sources in Lubbock tell me that the place is being overrun by wildlife; jackrabbits, coyotes, skunks, feral hogs and even deer are braving traffic to infiltrate every part of the city. At night, vacant lots seem to shimmer with the bounding hordes of rabbits. The reason is simple, the immediate Lubbock area has now gone 128 days without significant precipitation and the runoff in the city offers the only accessible supply of water when irrigation wells are not pumping.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:00:03pm

re: #173 austin_blue

Well, there ya go.

Now he’s going to Mueller’s team or testifying before it.

Smart move, Evil Elf!

A clever mastermind in the Oval Office would have treated McCabe with kid gloves, to win him over to the side of the White House or at least guarantee McCabe would remain neutral/silent, even after retirement. Instead, Trump and Sessions fire the guy just before retirement for completely petty and vindictive reasons as a form of punishment, thereby virtually guaranteeing a new enemy is created. Worse yet, they’ve now got the entire FBI pissed, even agents who would normally be neutral or even Republican leaning.

We should be grateful that Trump and his minions are so hopelessly inept at politics.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:00:07pm

Christopher Weyant

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:00:10pm

re: #176 teleskiguy


@pourmecoffee
“#16 UMBC beat #1 Virginia and the porn star Stormy Daniels is bringing down Donald Trump, who is currently President of the United States,” I say out loud, for no other reason than to hear how it sounds.
10:55 PM - Mar 16, 2018
Replies 18 18 Retweets 40 40 likes

Wow — first time ever that #16 beat #1 in first round!! A factoid I leaned earlier this week.
And Stormy will not bring him down — though it would be fun if she did.

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Interesting Times  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:00:23pm

re: #151 austin_blue

Did the letter hurt? Probably. A little. But you release an October surprise *early* in October, not ten days before the election, when most people’s minds are made up.

To piggyback off of Hecuba’s Daugther’s reply, in this “life comes at you fast” age, info released “early” in October risks being entirely forgotten/drowned out by election day (hell…the infamous “pussy grab” tape was released early October, and fat lot of good it did keeping Cheeto Benito out of the White House). Don’t we always make “I’m so old I remember” jokes about events that happened only days or even hours ago?

So yes…while what you said may have been true for election years of old, nowadays, releasing damaging info 10 days before an election (especially a close race with many undecideds) might very well be the sweet spot.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:01:22pm

And tomorrow, we can look forward to wingnuts across the nation insisting that liberals are being “hypocrites” for being outraged about McCabe’s termination, just as they did when Comey was fired. That Trump’s…I’m sorry, Sessions’ reasons for firing him are thinner than a human hair will not stop them from insisting that the termination is totally valid and not in any way vindictive or intended to hurt McCabe’s credibility as a witness against Trump.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:01:35pm

re: #182 Interesting Times

To piggyback off of Hecuba’s Daugther’s reply, in this “life comes at you fast” age, info released “early” in October risks being entirely forgotten/drowned out by election day (hell…the infamous “pussy grab” tape was released early October, and fat lot of good it did keeping Cheeto Benito out of the White House). Don’t we always make “I’m so old I remember” jokes about events that happened only days or even hours ago?

So yes…while what you said may have been true for election years of old, nowadays, releasing damaging info 10 days before an election (especially a close race with many undecideds) might very well be the sweet spot.

We’ll never know entirely for sure but Nate Silver believes it cost a couple of points.

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Interesting Times  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:02:46pm

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

I personally know someone who detested Trump but the Comey statement reminded her, as she told me, of all the drama when Bill was President and she felt she couldn’t face that again.

Well, I’m sure she must be absolutely delighted with the calm, boring, scandal-free administration the US has now. e_e

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:04:47pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I was 18 dings off, but you are now above 100K karma here!

And goddamn, those poor critters. I’m hearing that bears are already starting to wake up. That’s not supposed to happen for another month, at least. But it’s been so dry, dry as I can remember.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:07:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:09:14pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I was 18 dings off, but you are now above 100K karma here!

And goddamn, those poor critters. I’m hearing that bears are already starting to wake up. That’s not supposed to happen for another month, at least. But it’s been so dry, dry as I can remember.

Wow! I hadn’t even noticed. I knew I was close a while back but forgot to watch for the odometer to click over.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:10:02pm

re: #187 Ace-o-aces

Half of the bracket pool I’m in at the ski area, their brackets are busted tonight. I’m currently tied for fourth place. I have Kentucky winning it all. I’m noticing that the majority of the folks in the pool have Villanova going all the way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:10:16pm

re: #179 wheat-dogg

A clever mastermind in the Oval Office would have treated McCabe with kid gloves, to win him over to the side of the White House or at least guarantee McCabe would remain neutral/silent, even after retirement. Instead, Trump and Sessions fire the guy just before retirement for completely petty and vindictive reasons as a form of punishment, thereby virtually guaranteeing a new enemy is created. Worse yet, they’ve now got the entire FBI pissed, even agents who would normally be neutral or even Republican leaning.

We should be grateful that Trump and his minions are so hopelessly inept at politics.

Either that, or simply thank him for his service and let him retire without fanfare. They already have a Dumpster fire to deal with over the Mueller investigation and Ms. Daniels’s lawsuit, plus various members of Trump’s team being tried or already convicted. Anything Mr. McCabe might have brought up could have been dealt with if it came up at all.

Instead, they’ve created a new problem if Mr. McCabe decides to sue for an unlawful firing (and he gets discovery on such things as recordings or paperwork related to that, including this alleged internal investigation we only have the administration’s word took place).

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:10:57pm

re: #184 Belafon

We’ll never know entirely for sure but Nate Silver believes it cost a couple of points.

Everyone, especially those salt of the earth yam people know the fear of losing a pension.

That’s gonna stick.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:12:37pm

Later lizards. I always learn a ton o’ stuff from yuz guys.

David Sipress
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:12:50pm

re: #185 Interesting Times

Well, I’m sure she must be absolutely delighted with the calm, boring, scandal-free administration the US has now. e_e

Not only that, the scandal against President Clinton was entirely ginned up by the Republicans, going all the way back to the Arkansas Project.

Mr. Clinton’s diversion with Monica Lewinsky happened at the same time the House Speaker pressing for impeachment was doing far worse. IOKIYAR.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:13:08pm

Just came down the pike.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:14:12pm

re: #187 Ace-o-aces

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in one of my brackets I had VA in the final. Not winning it all, but.

Huge congrats to UMBC (University of Maryland Baltimore FYI)

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Kragar  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:14:20pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:14:26pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

Instead, they’ve created a new problem if Mr. McCabe decides to sue for an unlawful firing (and he gets discovery on such things as recordings or paperwork related to that, including this alleged internal investigation we only have the administration’s word took place).

Ah, yes. I forgot about the federal civil service rules. They tend to favor the employee over the employer. McCabe could really stir up trouble if he goes that route, because there’s nothing Trump and Sessions could do to stop it, AFAIK.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:14:30pm

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

Most people’s minds may have been made up — but given the closeness of race, this last minute revelation may very well have affected the outcome. I personally know someone who detested Trump but the Comey statement reminded her, as she told me, of all the drama when Bill was President and she felt she couldn’t face that again. That said, she lives here in Illinois so it had no effect on the election, but it would not be surprising if it did influence the results.

In fact, doing things last minute may prevent the other side from an effective response. A lot of people voted early when this was still in play.

As I said, a little. But the ground was laid long before the last week of the election and the Russians had no idea that the FBI would release that letter. The Russian bugfuckery among Bernie’s Purity Ponies, the SteinBots, and the Alt-Right was very well planned, brilliantly executed, and done well in advance of the election.

Let’s be clear: they, over time, did a great job of *nudging* voters, day by day, to affect the election.

It makes sense. You push a little, every day, to move the needle. They did a great job!

They used our open-forum social media against us, inputting doubt and innuendo into the hive mind that much of social media has become.

There are a shitpot of graduate thesis papers waiting to be written investigating that phenomenon.

They gutted us on our own naivete. We assumed Americans are intelligent, discerning humans. It is to laugh, and they shoved it down our throats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:15:36pm

re: #196 Kragar

He didn’t write that. He doesn’t have command of such vocabulary as “sanctimonious.”

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:17:46pm

Time to call it a night.

Hasta mañaa, Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:18:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:18:49pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

Just came down the pike.

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omg it’s real

omg

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:19:46pm

re: #198 austin_blue

They gutted us on our own naivete. We assumed Americans are intelligent, discerning humans. It is to laugh, and they shoved it down our throats.

If I could teach Americans one thing, it would be that they are no better than the rest of the world and can be conned.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:20:42pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

My sources in Lubbock tell me that the place is being overrun by wildlife; jackrabbits, coyotes, skunks, feral hogs and even deer are braving traffic to infiltrate every part of the city. At night, vacant lots seem to shimmer with the bounding hordes of rabbits. The reason is simple, the immediate Lubbock area has now gone 128 days without significant precipitation and the runoff in the city offers the only accessible supply of water when irrigation wells are not pumping.

The upside is that a .243 and a smoker gets you a month of food.

But yeah. Water refugees are going to be moving east in the next 5 or 10 years. And they can’t afford it. Tent cities in Texas? Strap in, boys and girls, its going to be the new normal.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:21:54pm
Protecting people’s information is at the heart of everything we do, and we require the same from people who operate apps on Facebook. In 2015, we learned that a psychology professor at the University of Cambridge named Dr. Aleksandr Kogan lied to us and violated our Platform Policies by passing data from an app that was using Facebook Login to SCL/Cambridge Analytica, a firm that does political, government and military work around the globe. He also passed that data to Christopher Wylie of Eunoia Technologies, Inc.

Like all app developers, Kogan requested and gained access to information from people after they chose to download his app. His app, “thisisyourdigitallife,” offered a personality prediction, and billed itself on Facebook as “a research app used by psychologists.” Approximately 270,000 people downloaded the app. In so doing, they gave their consent for Kogan to access information such as the city they set on their profile, or content they had liked, as well as more limited information about friends who had their privacy settings set to allow it.

Although Kogan gained access to this information in a legitimate way and through the proper channels that governed all developers on Facebook at that time, he did not subsequently abide by our rules. By passing information on to a third party, including SCL/Cambridge Analytica and Christopher Wylie of Eunoia Technologies, he violated our platform policies. When we learned of this violation in 2015, we removed his app from Facebook and demanded certifications from Kogan and all parties he had given data to that the information had been destroyed. Cambridge Analytica, Kogan and Wylie all certified to us that they destroyed the data.

(more)

newsroom.fb.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:22:24pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

Just came down the pike.

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He really doesn’t get how shitty this move makes him look to those “hard-working men and women,” does he? He really does have his head so far up his backside that he believes they’ll look positively upon this petty and vindictive act.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:22:46pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

Half of the bracket pool I’m in at the ski area, their brackets are busted tonight. I’m currently tied for fourth place. I have Kentucky winning it all. I’m noticing that the majority of the folks in the pool have Villanova going all the way.

I doubt anyone who isn’t a UMBC alumni picked them to win tonight.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:23:30pm

re: #202 Stanley Sea

omg it’s real

omg

Trump being Trump, he can’t just shut the fuck up.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:24:10pm

re: #207 Ace-o-aces

I doubt anyone who isn’t a UMBC alumni picked them to win tonight.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:26:36pm

re: #209 teleskiguy

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That’s actually sort of sad, that not a single person out of 17.3 million thought UMBC might have a chance.

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:41:41pm

The legions of folks who picked Virginia to advance to the sweet 16 should take solace that Barack Obama picked them to be in the final.

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makeitstop  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:41:59pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

He really doesn’t get how shitty this move makes him look to those “hard-working men and women,” does he? He really does have his head so far up his backside that he believes they’ll look positively upon this petty and vindictive act.

That’s what’s got me - he seems to have no concept of how many enemies he’s made by doing this. The dick waving tweets aren’t helping.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2018 • 9:43:49pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

Trump is such a motherfucker.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2018 • 10:13:22pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

That’s actually sort of sad, that not a single person out of 17.3 million thought UMBC might have a chance.

It’s not that no one picked UMBC, it’s that all the results that have happened have made a perfect existing bracket null. Still though what an upset, I’ll be rooting for them.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 17, 2018 • 4:29:31am

re: #204 austin_blue

That’s what happens when you kill off all the rattlesnakes ( because Satan).

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 17, 2018 • 6:42:16am

re: #76 freetoken

The good news is, as I wrote before, I’m pretty sure the majority of Americans have concluded that Trump and his gang have to go.

The programmed, and I do mean programmed as in cultic, hate-right noise machines one finds on social media are doing their best to shout loudly, in an attempt to make it seem like they are either some moral majority or at least potent. But they are neither.

The fact is Trump is still supported by the overwhelming majority of white men (around 75%-80% approval) and even white women (around 50%-55%). It is clear the majority of the white population considers itself at war not only with the majority (liberals + minority groups) in this country, but in reality also with about 97% of the human population on Earth. This mindset is not going to go away by itself, it has to be defeated at the polls again and again until it is smashed down into the rubbish bin of history. Our sinking into just another banana republic is endemic to the cult mentality the white population invests in itself and its figurehead in Trump.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 17, 2018 • 7:21:33am

re: #151 austin_blue

I don’t hail him as a hero. The letter came out on a Friday, if I remember correctly. By Tuesday, it was yanked because no additional information was discovered. The real villains in this were Anthony fucking Weiner and the Russians. In the previous six months, Bernie’s Purity Ponies and the SteinBots, abetted by Russian trolls and fake web sites, had poisoned Hillary’s well to the point where her getting elected was highly problematical.

Did the letter hurt? Probably. A little. But you release an October surprise *early* in October, not ten days before the election, when most people’s minds are made up.

Oh, and by the way, your last sentence is just the raving of a lunatic. McCabe did nothing illegal. Neither did Comey. Ill advised? Yes. Worthy of running off to a foreign embassy to seek asylum?

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you as stupid as that sounds?

Just fuck right off.

(Jeez, I haven’t posted anything like this in years! Why did I let this troll get under my skin in this way? Apologies to the rest of the Board. This man is a fool and I don’t suffer fools gladly, but damn. {pulls forelock})

No apology necessary .


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