A Brilliant Live Performance by Mark Knopfler: “Postcards From Paraguay”

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A live performance from the Meistersaal, Berlin on the 10th September 2007 filmed and broadcast by German TV station, RBB.

One thing was leading to the next
I bit off more than I could chew
I had the power to sign the checks
It wasn’t difficult to do
I couldn’t stay and face the music
So many reasons why
I won’t be sending postcards
From Paraguay
I robbed a bank full of dinero
A great big mountain of dough
So it was goodbye companero
And cheerio
I couldn’t stay and face the music
So many reasons why
I won’t be sending postcards
From Paraguay
I never meant to be a cheater
But there was blood on the wall
I had to steal from peter
To pay what I owed to Paul
I couldn’t stay and face the music
So many reasons why
I won’t be sending postcards
From Paraguay

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:19:36pm

piperjaffray.com

On Facebook, a poll by a bank finds that only 8% of adults under twenty-seven consider it their favourite social media platform. Snapchat and Instagram are far and away the favourites.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:20:24pm
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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:20:50pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

Facebook is for old folk.

Which is why it has so many genealogy groups.

And why right-wing and fundamentalist memes abound on it.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:21:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:21:57pm

re: #3 freetoken

Facebook is for old folk.

Which is why it has so many genealogy groups.

And why right-wing and fundamentalist memes abound on it.

It’s greag for genealogy stuff. Unfortunately I’ve met some right wing kooks through it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:22:28pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Ari can stop revising history.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:25:41pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

piperjaffray.com

On Facebook, a poll by a bank finds that only 8% of adults under twenty-seven consider it their favourite social media platform. Snapchat and Instagram are far and away the favourites.

My two sons with accounts have basically stopped using them. My middle son, who lied about is age to get on facebook, is now using instagram for public communications.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:25:59pm

re: #3 freetoken

Facebook is for old folk.

Which is why it has so many genealogy groups.

And why right-wing and fundamentalist memes abound on it.

The way to go now for content creators is (1) have a YouTube channel (2) an Instagram account (3) a Discord or Telegram channel (4) a Twitter account and only then (5) a blog. As an after thought, you can re-post on Facebook if you want to hit the old folks.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:26:59pm

re: #7 Belafon

My two sons with accounts have basically stopped using them. My middle son, who lied about is age to get on facebook, is now using instagram for public communications.

My youngest brother’s friends are your son’s age. They all use IG. I do too. I use IG and FB.

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Chrysicat  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:29:46pm

Wow. In just after a thread opens for a change, instead of just seconds before!

(for context, twitsearch “Greg Lopez”)

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jeffreyw  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:30:02pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:33:06pm

I am an old folk. I find Facebook rather tedious but I stay on it mainly to stay in touch with other old people and to keep up with what right-wing kooks are doing.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:36:01pm
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jaunte  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:37:43pm

I am also an old folk, but being a late adopter, I heard other family members complaining that they couldn’t disconnect/resign/retrieve their info from Facebook when they wanted to, so I never joined.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:39:56pm

Mark Knopfler is a great guy, and in my opinion, one of the all-time great rock guitarists. Everybody talks about Clapton, but Mark is at least as good as Clapton.

(I’d say the same thing about a few others, too—Robbie Robertson…the late (sob) Walter Becker…the great Jon Herrington from the Dan Band…I’m sure there are plenty more.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:42:15pm

Right Wing Watch, especially their Twitter account, is a great way to keep up with kookery. Only drawback is that they concentrate on really batshit religious elements without providing the context that would explain why this is important.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:43:46pm

re: #10 Chrysicat

Wow. In just after a thread opens for a change, instead of just seconds before!

(for context, twitsearch “Greg Lopez”)

I checked his site, and aside from a couple of red flags and so much corniness that I almost got sugar shocked, I couldn’t find him that bad.

For context, worse than the typical Republican, which is half a step above Tancredo.

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The Major  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:45:06pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s why you need to follow Orac’s American Loons blog…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:51:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:51:37pm

From the previous thread:

re: #245 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I use startpage.com . They get results from Google (among many others), but don’t connect you directly with them.

Startpage is what Ixquick calls itself in the USA.

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Citizen K  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:53:38pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jesus, Nunes is so bought and paid for. I remember when he actually tried to hide it in some capacity. Now he just openly seems to cheerlead for every single obstructionist hobby horse without shame.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:54:12pm

re: #8 wheat-dogg

The way to go now for content creators is (1) have a YouTube channel (2) an Instagram account (3) a Discord or Telegram channel (4) a Twitter account and only then (5) a blog. As an after thought, you can re-post on Facebook if you want to hit the old folks.

I have a 1) Youtube account linked to my 5) long neglected blog.

I also have a 2) Instagram account under another name, just so I can occasionally check on this or that celeb.

My 4) Twitter account is connected to my LGF persona.

So the only thing I’m missing out on is your 3) Discord, of which I’ve not experienced and not sure I want to try.

Yet, because so many of my older relatives are on Facebook, and so are the genealogy groups I need, to Facebook I go.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:54:25pm

re: #10 Chrysicat

Wow. In just after a thread opens for a change, instead of just seconds before!

(for context, twitsearch “Greg Lopez”)

Hm. I get about a gazillion variations of Greg Lopez. To which are you referring?

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:58:05pm

“I said, ‘Let’s call you @RealDonaldTrump — you’re the real Donald Trump,’” Costanzo said. “He thought about it for a minute and said, ‘I like it. Let’s do it.’”
businessinsider.com

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:59:05pm

I forgot… I once linked my Instagram account to Facebook, so now the two know more, which means it’s not so anonymous….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:00:31pm

re: #18 The Major

That’s why you need to follow Orac’s American Loons blog…

I do follow American Loons and I do, myself, understand the context, especially the octopus like linkage of bat guano religion, political conspiracy theories, and medical/healthcare quackery. I just wish RWW would provide more of this context.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:06:56pm

re: #25 freetoken

I forgot… I once linked my Instagram account to Facebook, so now the two know more, which means it’s not so anonymous….

Facebook owns Instagram, btw.

Also WhatsApp. All three are blocked in China now. WhatsApp wasn’t blocked until last year (or the year before??) when China realized it used end-to-end encryption, making surveillance nearly impossible. Apparently, Russia is blocking Telegram for the same reason, but justifying the blocking by saying “terrorists” could be using TG to communicate with each other.

No one is fooled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:08:52pm
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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:09:00pm

ICYMI

Justin Amash destroys any attempt by RWNJ to use the War Powers Act to justify Trump’s actions.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:09:41pm

It’s a mistake to think that the crazy right is about power and winning elections. That is just a dangerous by-product of their real purpose, which is to fleece gullible consumers with MLM scams, get rich quick schemes, quack medicine and a vast array of other bunk. Unfortunately their political tail is wagging the scammer dog and all sorts of power seeking parasites have latched on for the ride. That is really how we got Trump.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:10:29pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Hm. I get about a gazillion variations of Greg Lopez. To which are you referring?

Lopez is a relatively common Spanish surname.

It’s quite possible the Greg Lopez we’re looking for is the candidate for governor.

lopezforgovernor.com

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:12:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:13:20pm

Kansas City, MO, 14 Apr, 2018

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:20:28pm
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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:21:03pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg

Facebook owns Instagram, btw.

Facebook will own us all before the end.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:22:51pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Even worse, answers with no questions.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:25:21pm

Still following up with Josh & identifying the mafia surrounding Cohen.

(Find the Jeffrey Toobin Soprano’s music video if you have not seen it)
edit - geeze!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:27:32pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:28:40pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

Still following up with Josh & identifying the mafia surrounding Cohen.

(Find the Jeffrey Toobin Godfather music video if you have not seen it)

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Cohen’s attitude reminds me of mob bosses and their lieutenants, acting all cool and calm, figuring the Law can’t touch them because they’ve paid off enough judges and cops to be safe.

That only works up to a point, as Capone and Gotti discovered.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:28:49pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Sending a message

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blueraven  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:36:24pm

Ha…Robert De Niro as Mueller, Ben Stiller as Cohen on SNL.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:38:39pm
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Chrysicat  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:41:59pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why I suggested a twitter search and not a Google. This is the former mayor of Parker who was trending because he was the only R candidate other than Walker Stapleton to make the Colorado Republican primary ballot for governor (the ‘mainstream’ candidate got 5% of the vote, if you want to know where the grass roots are).

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:47:40pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:50:54pm

ZOMG Pee-wee’s Big Adventure is on Netflix! Haven’t seen that delightfully bizarre film in many a moon.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:56:30pm

thenevadaindependent.com

Cant wait for discovery. Wynn has many many skeletons on his closet. I’ve talked to many old timers, some who worked at the Golden Nugget, and the stories aren’t pretty.

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Chrysicat  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:58:40pm

re: #46 VegasGolfer

How does Vegas produce folks like him and Adelson, even after the de-Mobbing, while Reno produced upstanding people like Bill Harrah and the Ascuaga family instead?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:59:20pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She needs psychiatric help.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:05:44pm

re: #47 Chrysicat

Politicians easier to bribe in vegas?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:08:42pm

Watching David Attenborough’s Light On Earth. Flashlight fish are wild.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:12:54pm

Ao CNN has some before/after photos of sites that were bombed and I have to say, with my untrained eye… that’s it?!

www-m.cnn.com

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:12:56pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

Shots like this. So fuckin’ funny.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:15:20pm

re: #50 Eventual Carrion

Watching David Attenborough’s Light On Earth. Flashlight fish are wild.

There was something on local PBS earlier today. Life. Komodo dragons vs. a poor unfortunate water buffalo. One bite and the buffalo was doomed. But not for several weeks later. The dragons literally stalked it that whole time until it was too weak to defend itself. Komodos are the largest venomous animal on the planet.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:15:41pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Madam Ruby’s Tarot Cards, Palm Reading, and Income Tax.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:18:11pm

LOL, the lede of the entry for Donald Trump at RationalWiki:

Donald John “On Many Sides, On Many Sides” Trump (b. 1946), a.k.a. “John Miller”,[3] “John Barron”,[4] “David Dennison”,[5] and “Mr. Brexit”,[6] Cadet Bone Spur,[7] is an American (un)intentional comedian, honorary Russian Cossack,[8] heel wrestling personality and WWE Hall of Famer,[note 1] personality-cult leader, [note 2] Nobel Prize nominee, [note 3][10][11] and potential second coming of Reagan current false-equivalency[ 12][13] President of the United States. In the summer of 2015 he commandeered the Republican Clown Car, running on the hazy slogan of “Make America Hate Great Again”. Nowadays, Trump markets himself as a Turbo-Wingnut: he’s a climate-change denier, is militantly pro-life, wants to toughen up America by building a Great Wall of Mexico,[14] eliminating the Departments of Education, Commerce, and Energy (respectively), thinks vaccines cause autism,[15] yada yada. His Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, had more sensible policies on all these issues.

rationalwiki.org

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:18:32pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

ZOMG Pee-wee’s Big Adventure is on Netflix! Haven’t seen that delightfully bizarre film in many a moon.

So is Big Holiday.

Pee Wee’s Big Holiday Amish Balloon

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:19:38pm

re: #42 JordanRules

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The manager who called the police should be fired, at the very least. I’ve had to wait in restaurants for friends and have never been harassed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:21:07pm

re: #31 Sea Mexican!

Lopez is a relatively common Spanish surname.

It’s quite possible the Greg Lopez we’re looking for is the candidate for governor.

lopezforgovernor.com

I clicked on your link … the page loads so slowly it won’t finish until tomorrow morning.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:22:17pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

“We have nothing to do with any Russians.” - Eric Trump

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:25:14pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Large Marge about to make an appearance.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:25:52pm

The Spy version of this thread is no longer loading any comments for me, using Chrome.

I’m now using Opera, and the spy version loads fine.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:26:41pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

ZOMG Pee-wee’s Big Adventure is on Netflix! Haven’t seen that delightfully bizarre film in many a moon.

Is it a strange thing that every time I see the word “pee” that I think of Trump?

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:27:47pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

“There was this sound, like a garbage truck! Dropped off the Empire State Building!”

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:28:05pm

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

There was something on local PBS earlier today. Life. Komodo dragons vs. a poor unfortunate water buffalo. One bite and the buffalo was doomed. But not for several weeks later. The dragons literally stalked it that whole time until it was too weak to defend itself. Komodos are the largest venomous animal on the planet.

This one is about bioluminescence. Some cool research on the firefly, what their flashing might mean. Seems that the flashing is just part of the display/communication. The flight path seems to have a bit to do about the message.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:29:51pm

Yes, I’m live-blogging Pee-wee’s Big Adventure. Hey, it’s Saturday, can’t be all politics and Fuckface Von Clownstick around here! :)

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:32:34pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, the lede of the entry for Donald Trump at RationalWiki:

rationalwiki.org

Good stuff!
Think it should be ‘newly and militantly pro forced birth’ instead.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:33:14pm
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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:34:30pm
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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:35:37pm

Video at the link…

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:37:22pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

Simone: Do you have any dreams?

Pee-wee: Yeah. I’m all alone. I’m rolling a big donut, and this snake wearing a vest…

S: No, no, no, not that kind of dream…

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:39:06pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:40:49pm

re: #64 Eventual Carrion

I’ve seen similar programs about this. So fascinating.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:47:35pm

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Dave In Austin  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:48:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:48:51pm

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:50:39pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Pee-wee: Guess what. The Alamo was built without a basement.

Simone: Oh, I didn’t know that.

P: Neither did I. They don’t tell you stuff like that in school. It’s something you just have to experience.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:56:16pm

re: #46 VegasGolfer

thenevadaindependent.com

Cant wait for discovery. Wynn has many many skeletons on his closet. I’ve talked to many old timers, some who worked at the Golden Nugget, and the stories aren’t pretty.

Do tell.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:59:03pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

ZOMG Pee-wee’s Big Adventure is on Netflix! Haven’t seen that delightfully bizarre film in many a moon.

Remind me again what Paul Reubens did that was so bad his career had to come to an end?

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:00:09pm

I’m reading this article from the Economist, and it’s idiotic for times. When the author sticks to the facts, it shines. The deeper he goes into analysis, the worst it gets. It’s almost as if he only looked at the facts, and didn’t even bother to know the devil in the details.

One of my biggest pet peeves is that the author assumes that the Puerto Rican government can do miracles. Unfortunately, our government is bound by the Constitution and it can’t go around making deals with foreign countries, which would help greatly in improving the economy. It’s why the IRS Section 936 were such a big deal, as they were approved by the Federal Congress.

There’s also praise for the labor reform that was approved last year. One of the things the author purposely ignores is that, while other states might have smaller baselines, the wages are much higher. Reducing benefits while keeping the same salary is basically casting people out of their lands. The net effect of the first Roselló labor reform was that many workplaces fired employees (anyone employed before the new law would keep the benefits), to open the same exact openings a couple of months later and sign the employees with reduced obligatory benefits.

Punta Santiago is not a town nor a city in Puerto Rico. It’s part of Humacao.

And that’s without taking in account the petty shots at the PR culture.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:01:11pm
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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:01:24pm

re: #78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remind me again what Paul Reubens did that was so bad his career had to come to an end?

Whacking off in the middle of a XXX theater while his TV show was still in production.

Not necessarily judging, because what would people think would happen in a place like that, but definitely not a good PR look afterwards. Hence, the show was canned and Pee-Wee was put on ice for a long time, though Reubens has done some notable roles in movies and TV outside of his PW character (Blow, for one).

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:02:43pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

I clicked on your link … the page loads so slowly it won’t finish until tomorrow morning.

Even on my phone the page felt sluggish.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:03:06pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

Pee-wee had an entourage on the way to the hospital.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:04:01pm

re: #78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remind me again what Paul Reubens did that was so bad his career had to come to an end?

Indecent exposure.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:05:00pm

re: #81 TedStriker

Whacking off in the middle of a XXX theater while his TV show was still in production.

Right. So IOW, nothing.

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:08:22pm

re: #85 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Right. So IOW, nothing.

I’m not arguing or anything, but, seeing as he was the star of the most popular live-action Saturday morning kids’ show at the time, you can see why he got canned and the show canceled.

It’s not even like he was out of work that long afterwards, either; as a matter of fact, he worked pretty steady through the 90s, it just wasn’t as Pee-Wee:

During the 1990s, Reubens kept a low profile, dedicating himself to writing and collecting a variety of things, “everything from fake food, to lamps”,[27] although he did do some dubbing and took small parts in films such as 1992’s Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Tim Burton’s Batman Returns (Reubens portrayed the Penguin’s father) and 1996’s Matilda and Dunston Checks In. In 1993, he voiced for a character in another one of Burton’s productions, The Nightmare Before Christmas. (Reubens would later voice Lock for the video game The Nightmare Before Christmas: Oogie’s Revenge in 2004.) During the mid-1990s, Reubens played a recurring role on the TV series Murphy Brown. The role earned him positive reviews and his first and only non-Pee-wee Emmy nomination, for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series. He appeared six times on the show between 1995 and 1997. Afterward, Reubens began working on an NBC pilot entitled Meet the Muckles, a show that would be based on You Can’t Take It with You. The project got stuck in development hell, and was later dropped when Reubens’ ideas grew too elaborate and expensive, although Philip Rosenthal blamed NBC’s negative response on Reubens being on a “blacklist”.[11]

By 1999, Reubens had given several interviews as himself and made public appearances while promoting the movie Mystery Men, the first being on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno in 1999.[62] He also starred in Dwight Yoakam’s Western South of Heaven, West of Hell, playing as a rapist and killer. In 2001, Reubens had his first extended television role since Playhouse, as the host of the short-lived ABC game show You Don’t Know Jack, based on the game of the same name. It was cancelled after six episodes due to low ratings.[63]

Reubens played a flamboyant hairdresser turned drug dealer in Ted Demme’s drama Blow, which starred Penélope Cruz and Johnny Depp. His performance was praised and he began receiving scripts for potential movie projects.[64][65]

Reubens dated actress Debi Mazar in 1993 after he started attending film premieres with her.[66] Reubens has since credited Mazar with ending his depression from his arrest.[67]

I did not know he dated Debi Mazar before she got married Gabrielle…go figure.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:12:26pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Milton Berle: So the other fella says “What do you think I got down here, a duck?”

*laughter*

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:15:01pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

From Starbucks corporate blog, this is the sort of thing that is meaningful from a company, not a tweet or a non-pology to the press:

In the coming days, I will be joining our regional vice president, Camille Hymes—who is on the ground in Philadelphia—to speak with partners, customers and community leaders as well as law enforcement. Most importantly, I hope to meet personally with the two men who were arrested to offer a face-to-face apology. (emphasis mine)

news.starbucks.com

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:18:12pm

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

From Starbucks corporate blog, this is the sort of thing that is meaningful from a company, not a tweet or a non-pology to the press:

news.starbucks.com

That just only right, though it’ll never be enough towards the two black men who were unceremoniously rousted and frogmarched out of the store in cuffs; there better be a couple of checks with a whole lot of zeroes going to those two, as well as the manager who called the cops losing their fucking job.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:20:14pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

The studio lot scene is still one of the zaniest things ever filmed.

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:21:16pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

The studio lot scene is still one of the zaniest things ever filmed.

It and the end of Blazing Saddles…both hilarious takes on how the sausage gets made in movies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:24:06pm

Saw Paul Reubens in a surprising venue a while back: the aviation history documentary Above and Beyond.This was about the foreign volunteer pilots who helped found the Israeli Air Force in 1948. Paul’s father, Milton Rubenfeld, was one of those pilots and quite a character in his own right. Both Paul and his mother appeared on camera to talk about him. Milton died in 2004.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:24:19pm

re: #89 TedStriker

That just only right, though it’ll never be enough towards the two black men who were unceremoniously rousted and frogmarched out of the store in cuffs; there better be a couple of checks with a whole lot of zeroes going to those two, as well as the manager who called the cops losing their fucking job.

We & they will learn from this. A teaching moment. It will happen less because of this. One less is a step.

always 1/2 full me

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:24:57pm

re: #91 TedStriker

It and the end of Blazing Saddles…both hilarious takes on how the sausage gets made in movies.

The studio lot scene in Pee-wee’s Big Adventure is a spot on homage to the studio lot scene in Blazing Saddles.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:27:48pm

The Weber Bullet smoker The Older Boy gave us for Christmas (and finally ordered last week) has been christened. A baptism by fire, you might say.

They were yummy!

There’s also a 9# pork butt, but it’s in the oven, overcoming The Stall. That’ll be for tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:28:54pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

Obligatory.

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:29:09pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Saw Paul Reubens in a surprising venue a while back: the aviation history documentary Above and Beyond.This was about the foreign volunteer pilots who helped found the Israeli Air Force in 1948. Paul’s father, Milton Rubenfeld, was one of those pilots and quite a character in his own right. Both Paul and his mother appeared on camera to talk about him. Milton died in 2004.

And there always seems to be a Nashville connection somehow: Paul’s sister Abby has lived here, has practiced law, and taught law at Vanderbilt for a long time:

Abby Rubenfeld (born 1953) is an American civil rights attorney who practices in Nashville, Tennessee.[1]

Rubenfeld received an A.B. with honors from Princeton University, where she was class president, and a J.D. from Boston University School of Law in 1979, where she helped create the Boston University Law Association.[1][2][3] She was admitted to practice law in 1979.[2][3]

She was an adjunct professor at Vanderbilt University Law School and chair of the Individual Rights and Responsibilities section of the American Bar Association and of the National Law Association.[3][4][5][6] She is also an attorney, mother, and board member of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee. She serves on the board of directors of the Human Rights Campaign, and was an attorney and Legal Director of Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc.[4]

Rubenfeld is the daughter of Milton Rubenfeld and the sister of actor Paul Reubens (born Paul Rubenfeld). She is married, has two daughters, and a stepdaughter.[3]

I’d heard her name in the news here a lot over the years, but I’d never known until fairly recently that she is his sister.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:32:18pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

The Weber Bullet smoker The Older Boy gave us for Christmas (and finally ordered last week) has been christened. A baptism by fire, you might say.

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They were yummy!

There’s also a 9# pork butt, but it’s in the oven, overcoming The Stall. That’ll be for tomorrow.

I had diet dinner then smoked. What I would do for 8 ribs right now.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:32:42pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

The Weber Bullet smoker The Older Boy gave us for Christmas (and finally ordered last week) has been christened. A baptism by fire, you might say.

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They were yummy!

There’s also a 9# pork butt, but it’s in the oven, overcoming The Stall. That’ll be for tomorrow.

Oooh wee those look great! Happy smoking!

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:36:05pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

“Paging Mr. Herman, you have a telephone call at the front desk.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:40:09pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Phil Hartman depicting a reporter, asking Francis Buxton “When exactly did you become blood brothers?”

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:44:48pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

And with that, my live blog of a 33-year-old film that is still fuckin’ great comes to an end. Thanks for indulging me!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:47:30pm

re: #89 TedStriker

That just only right, though it’ll never be enough towards the two black men who were unceremoniously rousted and frogmarched out of the store in cuffs; there better be a couple of checks with a whole lot of zeroes going to those two, as well as the manager who called the cops losing their fucking job.

I agree that it won’t be enough for the two men. I referred strictly to the personal apology.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:11:07pm

Only six tweets in this hashtag! #ThePeeTapeExists

I mean, it exists.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:12:05pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:12:43pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

I agree that it won’t be enough for the two men. I referred strictly to the personal apology.

Even the original Tweet that JordanRules posted at #42 is a hell of a lot better than your standard not-pology:

“We regret that our practices and training led to the reprehensible outcome at our Philadelphia store.

Beats “We regret that you were offended”….

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:15:11pm

A response to Jacob Wohl’s post of Baghdad being bombed and passing the photo off as Trump’s attack on Syria to cheerlead:

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:15:38pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:18:12pm
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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:21:35pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:25:52pm

The butt finally got over 200, so I took it out of the oven to rest….

I’ll pull it around about midnight.

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Cheechako  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:37:34pm

Very sorry to hear of Art Bell’s passing. His rather unusual radio show made for very entertaining listening during long drives late at night. Has anyone been able to communicate with him from “the beyond”? I’m sure 100’s are trying. I guess he now knows what’s happening after death.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:39:23pm

re: #112 Cheechako

Very sorry to hear of Art Bell’s passing. His rather unusual radio show made for very entertaining listening during long drives late at night. Has anyone been able to communicate with him from “the beyond”? I’m sure 100’s are trying. I guess he now knows what’s happening after death.

Bullshit. He was kidnapped by aliens!

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:40:34pm

In all seriousness, Art Bell died aged 72. My mom is 70, my dad is 69.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:45:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:53:25pm

Thread (twelve tweets):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:58:36pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Joe Lieberman does not like the primary system

Primaries are no longer contests designed to help parties produce the candidates who appeal to broad swaths of voters. Rather, they’ve devolved into purity contests…

that is a matter of voters rather than the system

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:59:28pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

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You already know I got it on ALL my devices!! LOL

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:03:29am

re: #118 JordanRules

You already know I got it on ALL my devices!! LOL

The few black Twitter accounts I follow are really enjoying (read: FREAKING OUT) Beyoncé’s performance. I’m not watching it live, I’ll have to check it out. She’s a goddamned dynamo, that’s for sure!

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:05:04am

Like I said, black Twitter is having fun tonight.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:07:30am

re: #119 teleskiguy

The few black Twitter accounts I follow are really enjoying (read: FREAKING OUT) Beyoncé’s performance. I’m not watching it live, I’ll have to check it out. She’s a goddamned dynamo, that’s for sure!

Yeah buddy. Big freakout mode tonight! My east coast friends set their alarms so they could wake up. LOL

She’s a beast of a performer ski! A professional who sweats all the details and respects the platform and art. Not for everyone but important to lots of folks.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:08:58am

Aye! I get to benefit from Pacific time. Rare.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:11:46am

re: #121 JordanRules

Yeah buddy. Big freakout mode tonight! My east coast friends set their alarms so they could wake up. LOL

She’s a beast of a performer ski! A professional who sweats all the details and respects the platform and art. Not for everyone but important to lots of folks.

Her shows are *HUGE*!!! How many tractor trailers does it take to make a Beyoncé show? And the choreography. And the costume design. And the singing. And the music…

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:14:35am

I’m so glad I saw Prince twice. Once in an arena and once in a theater. When I saw him in the theater he had a huge afro and played bass guitar most of the night, including some hellacious slap solos.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:19:48am

re: #124 teleskiguy

I’m so glad I saw Prince twice. Once in an arena and once in a theater. When I saw him in the theater he had a huge afro and played bass guitar most of the night, including some hellacious slap solos.

Saw him twice too!

Once was a surprise performance in Vegas at about 3am in a smallish lounge room at the hotel where he did his residency. I still pinch myself when I think about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:21:44am

Well, being mostly snowed in today, I’ve been on way too long here. I probably ought to go and let other people have a chance to comment for awhile.

G’night, y’all.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:23:15am

Speaking of black artists blowing minds at Coachella… Blast From The Past!

“Creep” - Prince at Coachella 2008 (Uploaded via Permission from Radiohead)

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gwangung  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:29:20am

re: #119 teleskiguy

The few black Twitter accounts I follow are really enjoying (read: FREAKING OUT) Beyoncé’s performance. I’m not watching it live, I’ll have to check it out. She’s a goddamned dynamo, that’s for sure!

Well, actually, “goddess” might be a better term….

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:02:19am
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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:22:00am
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:53:41am

I don’t know how she expects me to sleep after that.

Mercyyyyyy.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:06:33am

Bad link. Deleted.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:24:32am

re: #68 JordanRules

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Not only do they lie - they are so incompetent it is amiracle that they bombed Syria rather than some other country by mistake.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:29:37am

re: #89 TedStriker

That just only right, though it’ll never be enough towards the two black men who were unceremoniously rousted and frogmarched out of the store in cuffs; there better be a couple of checks with a whole lot of zeroes going to those two, as well as the manager who called the cops losing their fucking job.

They should drag the store manager and any other employees involved and force them to apologize as well - after which they should be handcuffed and taken to the jail to spend 9 hours under arrest. Maybe then they will understand what they did.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:57:32am

I read today that the hamburger evolved from the sandwich. If that’s true, why are there still sandwiches?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:03:37am

It’s up and tweeting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:06:31am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I read today that the hamburger evolved from the sandwich. If that’s true, why are there still sandwiches?

and who created the Earl of Sandwich or did he just crawl out of a bowl of primordial soup?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:07:04am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I read today that the hamburger evolved from the sandwich. If that’s true, why are there still sandwiches?

How do you know the hamburger evolved from the sandwich? Were you there?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:11:28am

re: #68 JordanRules

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:12:30am

re: #112 Cheechako

Very sorry to hear of Art Bell’s passing. His rather unusual radio show made for very entertaining listening during long drives late at night. Has anyone been able to communicate with him from “the beyond”? I’m sure 100’s are trying. I guess he now knows what’s happening after death.

He helped mainstream CT think in opposition to real thinking. That’s not forgivable given the Trumpenstien outcome of that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:14:36am

re: #140 William Lewis

He helped mainstream CT think in opposition to real thinking. That’s not forgivable given the Trumpenstien outcome of that.

exactly. I find that sort of esoteric stuff an interesting form of performance art or a creative tool but get annoyed when people start to take it seriously

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:20:52am

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Good morning!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:25:16am

re: #140 William Lewis

He helped mainstream CT think in opposition to real thinking. That’s not forgivable given the Trumpenstien outcome of that.

As a native Nevadan and listening to his nonsense on the radio and then seeing those conspiracy theories being touted by more than the “fringe,” I find it unforgivable as well. I’ve got really nothing kind to say.

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plansbandc  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:26:17am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I regret that I have but one upding to give…

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:27:06am

He’s on a roll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:29:13am

re: #144 plansbandc

I regret that I have but one upding to give…

Charles, I propose again a “mega-upding” option that can be used only once per week/month but allows for multiple (5x /10x updings) for something outstanding

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:32:19am

last night in dopefish region:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:34:09am

re: #143 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

As a native Nevadan and listening to his nonsense on the radio and then seeing those conspiracy theories being touted by more than the “fringe,” I find it unforgivable as well. I’ve got really nothing kind to say.

it can be good fun and entertainment, but yes, it does lead to people questioning real science and even the very nature of logical and structured thought.

and that can have dire consequences

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:34:13am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:36:59am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:38:04am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it can be good fun and entertainment, but yes, it does lead to people questioning real science and even the very nature of logical and structured thought.

and that can have dire consequences

I used to just roll my eyes and move on until I realized how many people actually believed this stuff!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:38:11am

re: #150 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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he is completely unglued…wonder what F&F were talking about this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:39:43am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:39:59am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is completely unglued…wonder what F&F were talking about this morning.

Can you imagine waking up immediately every morning with this kind of anger? I’m surprised he hasn’t dropped dead from a heart attack (wishful thinking).

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:42:10am

re: #154 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Can you imagine waking up immediately every morning with this kind of anger? I’m surprised he hasn’t dropped dead from a heart attack (wishful thinking).

Who say’s he hasn’t? We could be onto the 4th or 5th Dave or Clone by now… O_o

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:48:34am

Bwahahaha! Just blocked my first person on Twitter. Some deplorable.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:50:04am

re: #155 William Lewis

The clones would surely improve each iteration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:57:56am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:01:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:04:49am

re: #151 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I used to just roll my eyes and move on until I realized how many people actually believed this stuff!

yes, I had the same opinion about spiritualism and esotericism: I found it interesting and fascinating as a creative tool and an interesting way of looking at things, but never to the point of basing my life and personal philosophy on.

and like religion, it often leads people to question science, logic and ordered thought processes…

and as goya tells us

the sleep of reason produces monsters

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:05:32am

re: #157 Aussie Apocalypse

The clones would surely improve each iteration.

I thought that degradation of the genome starts to set in with each reproduction

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:06:32am

re: #159 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Attorney Client privilege is now a thing of the past. I have many (too many!) lawyers and they are probably wondering when their offices, and even homes, are going to be raided with everything, including their phones and computers, taken. All corrupt lawyers are deflated and concerned!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:07:23am
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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:27:51am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sayeth the most incompetent president in the history of the US?

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plansbandc  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:31:34am

He’s unpresidentedly terrible as our alleged leader, but he’s an even worse human being. Absolutely the worst of the worst.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:34:59am

re: #165 plansbandc

He’s unpresidentedly terrible as our alleged leader, but he’s an even worse human being. Absolutely the worst of the worst.

He has risen to the highest office in the land but cannot rise above the pettiest squabbles.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:38:47am

Off to work, in the blowing snow. 8 hours of too much fun… bleah. Later.

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mmmirele  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:38:50am

I don’t know if this got shared on Friday; I was in transit all day. It’s a Larry Nassar victim speaking about how Michigan State president John Engler basically tried to bribe her to go away and lied to her about talking to Rachael Denhollander. Watch the two videos, all the way to the end. Just the look on Kaylee Lorincz’ face at the end is so amazing. She knows in that moment she is a powerful woman. And she’s only 18 and been through so much!

I think we may see some great leaders come out of this Nassar debacle as well.

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:47:04am

This will be Italian Beef before this day is past. This I swear.

Imgur

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:48:23am

Good morning Lizards. Drab and drizzly today after a sunny day that hit 80 degrees yesterday. And the cherry blossoms are in full swing as well.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:57:57am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump is calling someone out for not being smart? Lol.

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garzooma  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:58:07am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

No tweets about the McClatchy story.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:59:59am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

DT just helped Comey get a few more books sold.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:06:27am

re: #172 garzooma

No tweets about the McClatchy story.

“Because the Fake News won’t tell you that it was Prague, Nebraska!”

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:09:54am

re: #169 jeffreyw

This will be Italian Beef before this day is past. This I swear.

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Looks like a good start

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:12:24am

re: #157 Aussie Apocalypse

The clones would surely improve each iteration.

Nope. Clone degradation. Unless they were all cloned from the original.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:13:36am

re: #176 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Nope. Clone degradation. Unless they were all cloned from the original.

Well, there are seven horcruxes.

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:14:19am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:30:17am

re: #170 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards. Drab and drizzly today after a sunny day that hit 80 degrees yesterday. And the cherry blossoms are in full swing as well.

The Nebraska-Minnesota snow is reaching here in the Chicago area— but it’s rain all the way. Temperatures in the mid-30’s. They are predicting some snow in the afternoon but probably will be melting within a short time, even if they are correct. So a very cold rainy day.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:33:29am

re: #179 Hecuba’s daughter

And that same storm is headed to Philly. It will probably be all rain by the time it gets here.
forecast.weather.gov

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:37:32am

re: #180 PhillyPretzel

And that same storm is headed to Philly. It will probably be all rain by the time it gets here.
forecast.weather.gov

Here in NW PA we have rain and 53F temps. Temps supposed to start dropping.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:38:16am

re: #133 fern01

Not only do they lie - they are so incompetent it is amiracle that they bombed Syria rather than some other country by mistake.

Why not just take a picture in the damn room at the time??

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:42:54am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

The temps have been dropping since yesterday evening in Philly. Right now it is in the lower 40’s outside my house.

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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:43:02am

re: #175 Eventual Carrion

Looks like a good start

I was thinking as I snapped that pic that Italian beef is one of those things that look prettier raw than when cooked. When I tucked the camera back into my shirt pocket I added a bunch more garlic, herbs, and other seasonings. It’s starting to smell good in the kitchen. I have dough rising for some fresh rolls to eat it on.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:45:32am

re: #145 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s on a roll.

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It seems the moron knows he is going to be indicted while those he cannot stop attacking will carrying on enjoying the rest of their lives.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:56:04am

re: #168 mmmirele

I don’t know if this got shared on Friday; I was in transit all day. It’s a Larry Nassar victim speaking about how Michigan State president John Engler basically tried to bribe her to go away and lied to her about talking to Rachael Denhollander. Watch the two videos, all the way to the end. Just the look on Kaylee Lorincz’ face at the end is so amazing. She knows in that moment she is a powerful woman. And she’s only 18 and been through so much!

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I think we may see some great leaders come out of this Nassar debacle as well.

“We don’t care about the money - it’s not about the money” - a new generation that can’t be bought. That was a powerful speech. She is not giving up.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:56:27am

re: #145 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s on a roll.

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Someone should ask Trump if he read the book.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:56:53am

pathetically needy moron:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:58:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:58:16am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetically needy moron:

Just hit 50% in the Rasmussen Poll, much higher than President Obama at same point. With all of the phony stories and Fake News, it’s hard to believe! Thank you America, we are doing Great Things.

polls are faked/rigged/irrelevant unless they are flattering trump

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:58:46am

re: #182 dangerman

Why not just take a picture in the damn room at the time??

Trump only does staged photo ops - his photographer is probably kept away most of the time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:59:49am

re: #133 fern01

Not only do they lie - they are so incompetent it is amiracle that they bombed Syria rather than some other country by mistake.

They may be incompetent and treasonous but Mattis isn’t. Kelly, while totally dishonorable, may also be competent and not treasonous

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:00:03am

Morning!

So, outside of Trump further coming unglued…did Beyonce take over the world last night or something?

I’m catching references everywhere. Even freaking ESPN sports radio I had on making breakfast was asking who in the NBA is “Beyonce” enough. I guess Lebron James is not, or something.

This is going to further piss off Donny Orangeface. No one can have more attention than him.

Watch for him to blast Bee later in a tweet. Well, he’ll go after Jay Z…Bee is probably too much for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:00:49am
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:01:53am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. I’m glad people are finally relearning what it means to stand together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:01:55am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

As Trump’s lifetime of corruption and crime comes fully into public view, remember that every tweet, every speech, every angry denunciation he’s made—accusing others of corruption and insisting on his innocence—was made in full knowledge of his own guilt.

not really, because he is incapable of grasping that he might be doing something wrong

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:02:42am
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:04:26am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:06:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:09:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:09:31am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

As Trump’s lifetime of corruption and crime comes fully into public view, remember that every tweet, every speech, every angry denunciation he’s made—accusing others of corruption and insisting on his innocence—was made in full knowledge of his own guilt.
8:54 AM - Apr 15, 2018 * Washington, DC
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SOP for Republicans. Normal DARVO. Cognitive dissonance for Trump’s supporters. My Trumpster brother acknowledges he worked with the mob because “you had to if you were in real estate in NY” but he doesn’t think that indicates that Trump may be personally dishonest. And of course, Comey and Hillary are going to jail. My brother expressed concerned about the fate of democracy with one party potentially in control of everything. When we said that he’s come around because that’s the situation now, he sputtered and denied that applied to the current situation.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:09:54am

Lyin’ Sarah just appeared on This Week. *CLICK*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:13:43am

re: #193 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, outside of Trump further coming unglued…did Beyonce take over the world last night or something?

I’m catching references everywhere. Even freaking ESPN sports radio I had on making breakfast was asking who in the NBA is “Beyonce” enough. I guess Lebron James is not, or something.

This is going to further piss off Donny Orangeface. No one can have more attention than him.

Watch for him to blast Bee later in a tweet. Well, he’ll go after Jay Z…Bee is probably too much for him.

yes, yes she did…

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:13:44am

re: #134 fern01

They should drag the store manager and any other employees involved and force them to apologize as well - after which they should be handcuffed and taken to the jail to spend 9 hours under arrest. Maybe then they will understand what they did.

The police explanation is bullshit
The same as the 911 from California that killed the guy in Kansas

We got a 911 call so we have to investigate and must follow through so it’s all righteous

No
they take the 911 as factual and gospel and so everything else is assumed in top of that and so somehow justified

No. You must determine if the call is legit

If the call is crap everything that follows must be crap too

You don’t arrest a guy because some bsrista with a hair trigger created a tresspass incindent

And yes in this case, as opposed to speeding,. They all right over there are doing it too is a valid argument

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:15:38am

maggie should know…

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:15:41am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetically needy moron:

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You know how reality has a liberal bias?
Well Rasmussen has a…oh never mind

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I cannot.  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:24:17am

Thread…its like they don’t even know that cameras exist.

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Teukka  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:26:53am

re: #207 I cannot.

Thread…its like they don’t even know that cameras exist.

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Over/under on this apparent bilocation ability being used to prove Pence’s divine right?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:28:28am

re: #208 Teukka

Over/under on this apparent bilocation ability being used to prove Pence’s divine right?

Maybe they’ve cloned Pence or perhaps Pence has an identical twin brother?

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:30:38am

re: #207 I cannot.

Thread…its like they don’t even know that cameras exist.

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The accompanying text doesn’t explicitly say when the photo was taken. Presumably it was a briefing on the 12th, followed by action on the 13th. It creates the appearance of being an “action photo” without actually being one. I’d put it down to laziness.
Which is still not a great thing.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:31:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:31:54am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Yes, hello. Is this Washington, D.C. 911? I’d like to report a crazed elderly man, possibly suffering from the early stages of dementia, armed with dangerous weapons and hunkered down in public housing. He has a history of threatening violence. His address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenune.”

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:33:16am

re: #211 Patricia Kayden

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I believe the mission was to make it look like we’re doing something without getting too much more involved. So yeah. Mission Accomplished. Helping the Syrians? Not so much.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:33:36am

re: #207 I cannot.

Now even their photos are lying. Everything attached to this regime is a lie.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:36:59am

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe they’ve cloned Pence or perhaps Pence has an identical twin brother?

It’s never twins

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:39:55am

re: #215 dangerman

It’s never twins

The Boys from Brazil, Indiana.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:44:43am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:46:23am

re: #213 calochortus

Trump “cares” so much about Syrians that he has only taken in 11 Syrian refugees so far this year.

npr.org

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calochortus  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:49:35am

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

Precisely.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:51:34am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Not All Lawyers.”

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:52:15am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:55:07am

re: #221 jaunte

Oy Vey. DT has (actually always was) gone off the rails. Mesuga is very polite in reference to DT.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:56:45am

re: #204 dangerman

The police explanation is bullshit
The same as the 911 from California that killed the guy in Kansas

We got a 911 call so we have to investigate and must follow through so it’s all righteous

No
they take the 911 as factual and gospel and so everything else is assumed in top of that and so somehow justified

No. You must determine if the call is legit

If the call is crap everything that follows must be crap too

That’s pretty much the same story why they killed John Crawford.

And when the store videotape proved that the guy who called 911 was LYING… no repercussions for him. None at all.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:56:48am

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

I have many (too many!) lawyers

One more incidence of Trump believing all his problems arise from other people.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:57:12am

re: #221 jaunte

So now Trump knows every lawyer? LOL.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:58:04am

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

Trump “cares” so much about Syrians that he has only taken in 11 Syrian refugees so far this year.

npr.org

Trump only cares about wealthy people like himself. Has he ever exhibited any true kindness to someone who wasn’t wealthy and wasn’t white?

-ed to correct error

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:58:08am

re: #225 Patricia Kayden

“Everyone agrees with me!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:59:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:59:56am

Agreed. He was great. Had never heard of him before last night. His opening dialogue was brilliant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:00:49am

and the “explanations” begin:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:01:20am

but wait! There’s MORE!

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:02:43am

LA Times, 7:00 am:

Without mentioning Mueller, Trump lawyers urge high court to bolster his power to fire executive officials

The Supreme Court is set to hear a seemingly minor case later this month on the status of administrative judges at the Securities and Exchange Commission, an issue that normally might only draw the interest of those accused of stock fraud.

But the dispute turns on the president’s power to hire and fire officials throughout the government. And it comes just as the White House is saying President Trump believes he has the power to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

Trump’s Solicitor Gen. Noel Francisco intervened in the SEC case to urge the high court to clarify the president’s constitutional power to fire all “officers of the United States” who “exercise significant authority” under the law.

“The Constitution gives the president what the framers saw as the traditional means of ensuring accountability: the power to oversee executive officers through removal,” he wrote in Lucia vs. SEC. “The president is accordingly authorized under our constitutional system to remove all principal officers, as well as all ‘inferior officers’ he has appointed.”
latimes.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:03:46am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

The WSJ Opinion page has been a lying piece of trash since I first read it in the 1980’s. I stopped reading it by 1990 because it was dishonest to its core: both its editorials and 95% of its opinions were outrageous and worthless. As I’ve said before, they were Faux news before there was Fox News.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:04:44am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:05:11am

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

That is why I am no longer subscribing to it. I am now getting The Washington Post.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:05:33am

I laughed on another rainy day in NYC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:05:47am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:08:25am

re: #221 jaunte

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re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God just shut up already, you Orange shitboil.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:10:13am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am not a crook. rofl

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:13:56am

re: #239 PhillyPretzel

I am not a crook. rofl

I’m waiting for him to say If the president does it, it’s not illegal.

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Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:14:43am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for him to say If the president does it, it’s not illegal.

I thought he already had.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:15:26am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:16:42am

re: #241 Skip Intro

I thought he already had.

I think you’re right. It’s hard to keep up.

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Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:19:46am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I think you’re right. It’s hard to keep up.

Impossible would be the word I’d choose. Absolutely impossible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:24:30am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair, if you were Trump’s lawyer, you probably would be “deflated and concerned” because the client who promised you that he’d follow your instructions and shut the fuck up won’t stop tweeting about the case, and he’s probably late paying your bill..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:25:39am

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:26:51am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rich white innocent men tend not to need pardons

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:26:59am

re: #232 jaunte

LA Times, 7:00 am:

Without mentioning Mueller, Trump lawyers urge high court to bolster his power to fire executive officials

Reading through that, if the SCOTUS goes unitary executive, there’s nothing Congress can do except go “Hey guys and gals, I think the president’s doing bad things. It’s time to impeach.” No ability to do in depth investigations, just start proceedings.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:27:53am

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

Late? He’ll never pay it period.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:27:54am

DT has never heard of Catherine the Great. It is a pity.

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Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:28:29am

This Brazilian pastor said he was saving souls. Police say he ran a slave-labor ring.

MINDURI, Brazil — Welcome to Paradise Farm.

In the fertile hills of southeast Brazil, scores of Christian workers tend banana and citrus fields, rousing iridescent butterflies in the noonday sun. In the evenings, laborers come home to cement dorms, communal meals and prayer sessions far from the secular distractions of urban life.

“We are all Christians who follow the New Testament,” said Paulo Henrique da Silva, president of the cooperative that manages the farm. “We came together to live as one.”

Yet this picture of faith, Brazilian authorities say, is masking a darker truth. Officials describe the ranch as part of a sprawling slave labor and racketeering ring led by Pastor Cícero Vicente de Araújo, a former salesman. Federal police are calling it another in an unusual string of high-profile criminal cases tied to evangelical churches here in Latin America’s largest nation.

The dramatic surge of evangelical Christianity in Brazil in recent decades is giving the religious right an increasingly powerful political voice. But in a country where corruption and malfeasance have already infiltrated the highest levels of politics and business, opportunists are also muscling in on houses of worship.

washingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:29:23am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

but wait! There’s MORE!

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Yet the message they heard was “This bombing is entirely about domestic politics and should not in any way be seen as an effort to do more than inconvenience you.”

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:34:44am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

UNCONDITIONAL mean UN-FUCKING-CONDITIONAL. Admitting guilt would be a condition, which an unconditional pardon does not include, by definition.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:36:15am

re: #244 Skip Intro

Impossible would be the word I’d choose. Absolutely impossible.

Yep. It is.

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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:37:41am

On the social media discussion, don’t forget that instagram is owned by facebook, they are one and the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:43:53am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

I cannot imagine any other President using Twitter like our current one does…and if he does, it is time to consider handing in my passport

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:45:22am
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jeffreyw  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:45:26am

These are not the best roll models.

Imgur

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:45:53am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

He uses Twitter the way I see old people use Facebook. To just bitch at the world. Obama used Twitter too but never like a petty man baby.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:46:27am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

What do you mean idle and doing nothing?

Why, Paul Ryan was interviewed by Meat the Press Chuck today, and he told everyone he has done so much and he doesn’t want to say anything about the Comey book because it just helps sell books.

Everyone keep that in mind when Paulie puts out a book in a few months.

But do nothing? Nah. They are doing what they always do…screw the middle class on down in this country. No time for you lot! Be gone with you…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:46:33am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know Sterling well. Glad I’m not there today.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:47:47am
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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:48:15am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

GOP: “Doesn’t matter, got tax cuts!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:48:24am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:49:35am

re: #263 Targetpractice

GOP: “Doesn’t matter, got tax cuts!”

Or “Say what you will but he’s not Hillary.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:50:53am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Or “Say what you will but he’s not Hillary.”

that is what they are still saying, and when he is convicted they will be saying “Why didn’t they put Hillary behind bars?”

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:51:18am
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KGxvi  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:51:19am

re: #262 JordanRules

Now that is a fucking MCU level easter egg.

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lizardofid  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:51:48am

re: #258 jeffreyw

These are not the best roll models.

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You go to war dinner with the army rolls you have.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:54:13am

So lots of speculation about the #basta hashtag on all of Michael’s tweets and what it means.

I think it’s just his way to file tag all his tweets. Good idea the more I think about it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:56:03am

An Independent isn’t independent unless they’re independently as far right as possible

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:56:30am

re: #262 JordanRules

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:57:09am

re: #258 jeffreyw

These are not the best roll models.

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Bet they would be good with embellished tubesteaks. And chips

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:58:09am
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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:58:57am

re: #267 Kragar

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The tweet makes sense if you interpret it as being aimed at the people the current administration views as mattering most: the rich, whose tax cuts are effective starting this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:59:45am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:01:32am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:01:35am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

An Independent isn’t independent unless they’re independently as far right as possible

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Yep he’s a legitimate independent unlike Hannity and O’Reilly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:02:01am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:02:32am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:03:58am

re: #170 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards. Drab and drizzly today after a sunny day that hit 80 degrees yesterday. And the cherry blossoms are in full swing as well.

What are these “blossoms” you speak of?

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:08:10am

re: #255 KGxvi

On the social media discussion, don’t forget that instagram is owned by facebook, they are one and the same.

And I would wager that all the data gets combined and sifted and mixed and they can get all kinds of results by cross using it, etc.

America just needs to Face Up!

Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg want to know everything about everybody and he will use it any way he damn well pleases because it is free as in libertarian free to be used anyway they choose.

And the little bastard has been all over the world doing the same.

He isn’t brilliant. He’s dangerous.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:14:35am

Syria attack “martial onanism”:

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:15:38am

I’m trying to find a dataset to analyze as part of my machine learning study group I have up at work. I’m looking for something I can do some regression analysis on to use some of the tools we’re learning about. One of the suggested sites is kaggle.com. Someone has introduced Zuckerberg’s Congressional testimony as a dataset.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:16:00am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those images of Cohen are creepy…like right out of a movie creepy. They look like Cohen is getting a warning message about being good and keeping quiet because you know what happens to guys with big mouths, right?

See you around Mike. We’ll be watching, you understand.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:18:27am

re: #283 Barefoot Grin

Syria attack “martial onanism”:

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I think Eliot Cohen is one who wanted Obama to go to war with Assad, tbh.

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:18:28am
Maggie Haberman

@maggieNYT
An actual “I hardly know the guy”

Except for when he singled him out for recognition during an inauguration event. Comey was practically hiding behind the curtains.

Trump Greets FBI Director James Comey at White House

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:20:49am

re: #287 stpaulbear

I love how the person in the painting in the background is looking away like “Lord help us.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:22:04am

re: #288 Ace Rothstein

I love how the person in the painting in the background is looking away like “Lord help us.”

President Monroe you mean, yes. He speaks for all of us.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:23:00am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:23:15am

re: #282 ObserverArt

Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg want to know everything about everybody and he will use it any way he damn well pleases because it is free as in libertarian free to be used anyway they choose.

It is freely and voluntarily provided by the users who are perhaps unaware but have every opportunity to inform themselves of the terms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:23:44am

re: #283 Barefoot Grin

Syria attack “martial onanism”:

He spilled his Scud upon the ground

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:24:59am

re: #290 Interesting Times

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:25:29am
As Trump’s lifetime of corruption and crime comes fully into public view, remember that every tweet, every speech, every angry denunciation he’s made—accusing others of corruption and insisting on his innocence—was made in full knowledge of his own guilt.

Moreso, he telescopes his every thought and crime. When he’s accusing others of whatever, it’s been repeatedly shown that he’s doing whatever it is he’s complaining about.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:25:59am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the “explanations” begin:

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She’s bullshitting. No way Pence was in that meeting. He was in Lima, Peru.

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:27:09am

re: #295 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s bullshitting. No way Pence was in that meeting. He was in Lima, Peru.

washingtonpost.com

Or was he in Peru, Indiana?

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:27:11am

Alright then, here are your percentage breakdowns for men who hate women and the women who love them:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:29:07am

re: #297 Interesting Times

Alright then, here are your percentage breakdowns for men who hate women and the women who love them:

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Agh what’s wrong with my fellow men? And I know it’s higher for white men.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:31:13am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is freely and voluntarily provided by the users who are perhaps unaware but have every opportunity to inform themselves of the terms.

I wish I could agree. But I am not very trusting of one Mark Zuckerberg. Even less trusting after some of the revelations that came out last week.

I think only the surface was scratched and he may have all kinds of tools that can mine data from all manner of connections just through his properties.

The guy is fixated on getting everything he can anyway he can. You could see it in his answers and how he tried so hard not to admit the game.

But, I would also not be surprised if he has deals with other online entities that give him even more data collection than those entities may fully understand. What is a business partnership with Facebook? We are getting hints with Cambridge Analytica.

What is going on with others?

A Facebook link may be way more than anyone bargained.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:31:15am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

Agh what’s wrong with my fellow men?

Durr hurr, we wanna bang porn stars and get away with crimes too!!11!!

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:31:20am

re: #290 Interesting Times

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:36:27am

re: #299 ObserverArt

I wish I could agree. But I am not very trusting of one Mark Zuckerberg. Even less trusting after some of the revelations that came out last week.

I think only the surface was scratched and he may have all kinds of tools that can mine data from all manner of connections just through his properties.

The guy is fixated on getting everything he can anyway he can. You could see it in his answers and how he tried so hard not to admit the game.

Which is why I have come to post nothing on FB that I would not put up on a billboard above a freeway, as it is much the same thing.

Nor do I run apps, play games, take quizzes or participate in polls. I do not even “like” anything on FB, regardless of whether I like it or not.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:36:56am
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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:37:54am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:38:11am
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:38:42am
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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:39:24am

re: #299 ObserverArt

A Facebook link may be way more than anyone bargained.

Acxiom predates Facebook - and just as intrusive….

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:40:21am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is freely and voluntarily provided by the users who are perhaps unaware but have every opportunity to inform themselves of the terms.

FB gathered info on people who aren’t even on FB. They have to become a FB member in order to delete their personal info. This isn’t a case of customers just being unaware.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:42:17am
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:42:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:44:34am

re: #306 JordanRules

Inside the information war between the US and Russia.

another old hobbyhorse: when people started relying on social media feeds for news about anything other than what their friends and family were up to, we left ourselves open to all sorts of manipulation

and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic

those fears turned out to be well grounded

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:44:34am

I was going to post a tweet with a video on an escaped baboon leading researchers on a foot pursuit down a road , but this seemed more important

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

“… In an announcement posted to its website on Friday, the FDA reported that Rose Acre Farms of Seymour, Indiana, recalled the eggs distributed from the farm in Hyde County, North Carolina.

The eggs have reached consumers in the following states: Colorado, Florida, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia through retail stores and restaurants. …”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:45:14am

re: #308 stpaulbear

FB gathered info on people who aren’t even on FB. They have to become a FB member in order to delete their personal info. This isn’t a case of customers just being unaware.

I heard about that. now that does go into the realm of absolutely criminal.

how was that possible?

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:45:44am

re: #310 JordanRules

Is he saying that Bush was one of the ethical ones?

Not so much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:46:29am

re: #314 stpaulbear

Is he saying that Bush was one of the ethical ones?

Not so much.

He was not blatant in flouting the Emoluments clause or obstructing justice

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:47:53am

re: #314 stpaulbear

Is he saying that Bush was one of the ethical ones?

Not so much.

Gotta remember that Comey is a Republican after all but yeah.

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stpaulbear  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:49:50am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard about that. now that does go into the realm of absolutely criminal.

how was that possible?

Not sure how they did it, but I think they were vacuuming up contact lists from Facebook users.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:51:24am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which is why I have come to post nothing on FB that I would not put up on a billboard above a freeway, as it is much the same thing.

Nor do I run apps, play games, take quizzes or participate in polls. I do not even “like” anything on FB, regardless of whether I like it or not.

And yet, they still have data on you. And my worry is a name is a string anymore. And who knows where that strings starts and ends. A little now means a lot to Mark Zuckerberg.

Admitting he has data on non-users really made me think differently about Facebook. Added to what happened with the elections and they just go to my top of the who can’t be trusted list.

I always had reservations about Facebook. I have way more now. Mark Zuckerberg did nothing to ease any of my fears. He sure created more.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:51:52am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another old hobbyhorse: when people started relying on social media feeds for news about anything other than what their friends and family were up to, we left ourselves open to all sorts of manipulation

and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic

those fears turned out to be well grounded

We’ve had this discussion a few times. I disagree. It’s a tool. The problems pre-dated social media in my opinion.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:53:26am

re: #318 ObserverArt

And yet, they still have data on you. And my worry is a name is a string anymore. And who knows where that strings starts and ends. A little now means a lot to Mark Zuckerberg.

Admitting he has data on non-users really made me think differently about Facebook. Added to what happened with the elections and they just go to my top of the who can’t be trusted list.

I always had reservations about Facebook. I have way more now. Mark Zuckerberg did nothing to ease any of my fears. He sure created more.

Right. Nobody escaped this. No matter how noble you think your use of it was.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:54:07am

re: #283 Barefoot Grin

Syria attack “martial onanism”:

[Embedded content]

I’m no fan of Trump, and certainly not a defender or apologist. I don’t think for a minute that the UK or France would participate in a military action launched on a childish basis as described in the article.

Damned if they don’t limit the strikes and cursed when they do. Low hanging click bait.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:54:21am

re: #303 JordanRules

Kashana ✔
@kashanacauley
Just saw a black person in the mirror and called the cops.

8:23 PM - Apr 14, 2018

You know this should be funny.

But I would not be surprised if she actually called the police and said she was in the bathroom and saw a black person in there what might actually happen.

Sad isn’t it?

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:54:49am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:57:56am

re: #323 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Damn it, I want to watch this now.

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Archangelus  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:58:04am

Ended up unexpectedly encountering and covering this twice today, had nearly ZERO local coverage. Gonna work on an article for this later when I have a spare minute, really want this to get SOME coverage…

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:58:34am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Damn it, I want to watch this now.

Me too! LOL

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:00:24am
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:02:05am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another old hobbyhorse: when people started relying on social media feeds for news about anything other than what their friends and family were up to, we left ourselves open to all sorts of manipulation

and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic

those fears turned out to be well grounded

I’m not going to let Facebook off the hook, but relying on friends and family for information has been around longer than the internet. And, as we know from old stories of sheriffs that ran towns, to lynchings of black men who didn’t even whistle at a white woman, disinformation has been around a long time.

Before Facebook, I was having to debunk stories my wife would receive in chain emails sent by family members, mainly via Snopes. I did manage to get one cousin to at least stop sending the stories to us, though I hope she stopped sending them period.

Setting aside the data collection as a related - but not exactly the same - issue, Facebook is just a public face on the problem of blindly accepting information from people who you know. But we at some level, have to do that. I’m not going to go verify everything my dad says about cars; I don’t have time. Learning just how far you can take someone else’s word is tough to do.

Edit: Most people don’t have healthy skepticism. They either have a whole bunch or nearly none.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:04:46am

7 hours in the smoker, 3 hours in the oven, 1 hour resting, then shredded. Guess what’s for breakfast?

Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:05:28am

re: #326 JordanRules

Me too! LOL

Just needs a catchy theme!

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:06:08am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

7 batshit insane tweets this morning from the President and the GOP sits idly by and does nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.

I hope our next President doesn’t use Twitter much.

Trump speaks for the GOP. He is the GOP.

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sagehen  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:07:16am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Stephen Colbert:

“Comey compares Trump to a mob boss, but that’s obviously ridiculous. A mob boss would know how to run a casino.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:07:36am

It’s always fun when you’re at work and you get a blast email from your all white senior management team touting the importance of Diversity.

🙄

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:07:41am

re: #331 MsJ

Trump speaks for the GOP. He is the GOP.

Which is something the Never Trumpers in the GOP can’t accept or admit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:08:00am

re: #317 stpaulbear

Not sure how they did it, but I think they were vacuuming up contact lists from Facebook users.

I have minimal sympathy for users getting mined but third parties is pretty heinous stuff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:08:11am

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

Rango was there while I took it apart and shredded it, watching like a hawk.

And yes, or course he got some yummy bits!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:08:18am

re: #332 sagehen

Stephen Colbert:

“Comey compares Trump to a mob boss, but that’s obviously ridiculous. A mob boss would know how to run a casino.”

Among other things.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:09:05am

re: #331 MsJ

Trump speaks for the GOP. He is the GOP.

Yeah, he’s like 100% batshit crazy made from concentrate. Other Republicans are more diluted and better at hiding their true feelings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:09:15am

re: #318 ObserverArt

And yet, they still have data on you. And my worry is a name is a string anymore. And who knows where that strings starts and ends. A little now means a lot to Mark Zuckerberg.

They have no data that I am not prepared to shared with the rest of the world.

And they certainly do not have my relationship status, which I am not even prepared to share with my girlfriend…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:09:54am

re: #319 JordanRules

We’ve had this discussion a few times. I disagree. It’s a tool. The problems pre-dated social media in my opinion.

Fake news and media manipulation have always been issues, but FB feeds and Twitter just bumped everything up to a new level

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:12:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:12:44am

re: #328 Belafon

I’m not going to let Facebook off the hook, but relying on friends and family for information has been around longer than the internet.

Needless to say, there was a time when that was pretty much the only way that information spread beyond a town crier proclaiming the latest edict.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:14:58am
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:15:20am

re: #331 MsJ

Trump speaks for the GOP. He is the GOP.

He is the archetypical FOX viewer. The Republican party has been controlled by FOX (and Rush before them) for a long time, and now we see how true that is. Americans voted for Trump with this uppermost in mind - that he was exactly like them. Journalists thought that meant things like ‘working-class values’ or some shit and fell all over themselves to praise Trump for having that working-class, common touch, for being a man of the people even though he literally shat on gold toilet seats.

But that’s never what was meant by him being exactly like them, and Trumpers knew it. What it meant was that he was a willfully ignorant white man who ranted at TV shows just like they did.

Trump isn’t just the GOP. He is America. FOX and cult media have turned millions - millions - of Americans into people just like Donald Trump. He is the inner thoughts of millions of Americans, unfiltered, on full display.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:15:39am

re: #341 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

It does make me sad. I figured he would be first. I can say that he won’t last long after she’s gone. And my thoughts do go out to the family.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:16:06am

TBH I take the good with the bad in regards to social media. It has its problems sure but it’s benefits as well.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:16:06am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard about that. now that does go into the realm of absolutely criminal.

how was that possible?

I think it must have been as simple as cross checking a name mentioned in a post or a phone number the Facebook app came across.

When it was not found to be a Facebook customer it started an “account” to build up info on that person and to see if they came up anywhere else in the data and then who connected them, etc. and then soon they can know about that person without the person being aware.

I don’t think people are thinking clearly how fast all this can be done. And how effective it could be. And once established, where it can all go from just having a name or a number.

I bet there are people working on all of this right now both from a good side and a bad. We are going to be hearing some stunning info about how much we are all known entities.

And just think. Our government may already have a way to use Facebook’s data. Think of that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:16:55am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard about that. now that does go into the realm of absolutely criminal.

how was that possible?

Inch at a time right? Our data, our personal details of family, travel and work now called ‘big data” whether voluntarily given or not is for sale. Every person active online. It’s not big data. it’s our data. We really should assert, insist, legislate ownership. Want my data for hire? Let me decline, and if I agree, pay me.

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:17:49am
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:17:59am
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:18:22am

mrs dm now has a nebulizer with a small desktop compressor

not as scary as a vacuum cleaner
still, we’re not ready to approach the room if when it’s on

these are nebulizer faces. not happy. not, not happy

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:20:51am

I love these!

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:22:10am

re: #319 JordanRules

We’ve had this discussion a few times. I disagree. It’s a tool. The problems pre-dated social media in my opinion.

We’ve been worried about government data collection as long as they have kept records.

Computers in the 60s really helped expand the capabilities.

Now just about everyone has a computer link one way or another…as simple as a name and a phone number.

Then comes Facebook and put a nice face on the book and people just give it up.

And Facebook learns and learns and finds better ways to use and get more and more.

This is only going to get more intrusive, how could it not?

354
MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:22:23am

re: #310 JordanRules

I have s very hard time accepting Comey’s “ethical” thing after birth he and McCabe entered the grey of politics 11 days before the election.

Now, they have to fix what they broke. Ethics aside, because none were present back then. IMHO, they both broke the law and helped elect trump.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:22:27am

good afternoon!

we get a lot of iguanas lizards
they don’t usually try to jump into the pool for a swim
this one tried till it figured out the drop was too much

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:23:51am

re: #352 JordanRules

I love these!

[Embedded content]

They look a bit small for a man his height, no?

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:25:02am

Thread!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:25:20am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

They look a bit small for a man his height, no?

There’s no size reference in the picture. They could be the size of PT boats.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:25:40am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:26:12am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s no size reference in the picture. They could be the size of PT boats.

Yeah true. Just looked a bit small to the eye.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:26:47am

re: #359 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

He’s disturbed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:28:34am

re: #357 JordanRules

Thread!

[Embedded content]

Wasn’t that long ago. My dad and his closest brother in age were the only ones not born in his family. Jackie was a hero like MLK and others before and after him.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:29:22am

re: #353 ObserverArt

We’ve been worried about government data collection as long as they have kept records.

Computers in the 60s really helped expand the capabilities.

Now just about everyone has a computer link one way or another…as simple as a name and a phone number.

Then comes Facebook and put a nice face on the book and people just give it up.

And Facebook learns and learns and finds better ways to use and get more and more.

This is only going to get more intrusive, how could it not?

I agree with all that.
I disagree that people getting their news from these new tools is the problem. They got the same bullshit they were predisposed to believe from websites, talk radio, blogs etc before social media. Charles saw all of it up close before Twitter and FB existed.

The new tools should be regulated for sure!

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:30:30am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

They look a bit small for a man his height, no?

They do. Lots of folks had the same observation. I wonder if Mary made them

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:31:52am

re: #359 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:32:51am

re: #364 JordanRules

They do. Lots of folks had the same observation. I wonder if Mary made them

Maybe. Man that’d be an awesome keepsake to have. I don’t think Lincoln has any more direct descendants.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:33:27am

re: #365 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

I want Trumps take on Gatsby.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:35:31am

re: #354 MsJ

I have s very hard time accepting Comey’s “ethical” thing after birth he and McCabe entered the grey of politics 11 days before the election.

Now, they have to fix what they broke. Ethics aside, because none were present back then. IMHO, they both broke the law and helped elect trump.

I completely agree.

He’s an asshole at the bar throwing punches at the biggest asshole. I enjoy it but he’s still an asshole that has shit to answer for.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:35:34am

re: #354 MsJ

I have s a very hard time accepting Comey’s “ethical” thing after birth both he and McCabe entered the grey frey of politics 11 days before the election.

Now, they have to fix what they broke. Ethics aside, because none were present back then. IMHO, they both broke the law and helped elect trump.

Sheesh. I thought I’d proofread that. Apparently not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:37:07am

re: #348 Unshaken Defiance

Inch at a time right? Our data, our personal details of family, travel and work now called ‘big data” whether voluntarily given or not is for sale. Every person active online. It’s not big data. it’s our data. We really should assert, insist, legislate ownership. Want my data for hire? Let me decline, and if I agree, pay me.

Yes, this is a digital analog to the bit in the phrase Amendment about the Right to Petition for the Redress of Grievances: how can you petition for redress when you are unaware of how you are being aggrieved in the first place?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:38:05am

re: #353 ObserverArt

We’ve been worried about government data collection as long as they have kept records.

Computers in the 60s really helped expand the capabilities.

Now just about everyone has a computer link one way or another…as simple as a name and a phone number.

Then comes Facebook and put a nice face on the book and people just give it up.

And Facebook learns and learns and finds better ways to use and get more and more.

This is only going to get more intrusive, how could it not?

And modern TVs are two-way and collect data on users, like when they leave the room…

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:40:22am

re: #354 MsJ

I have s very hard time accepting Comey’s “ethical” thing after birth he and McCabe entered the grey of politics 11 days before the election.

Now, they have to fix what they broke. Ethics aside, because none were present back then. IMHO, they both broke the law and helped elect trump.

I look at Comey’s book as him trying to put a coat of paint on his past. It was looking a little dingy. But a new coat of paint is still just covering old walls.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:43:17am

SMDH

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:44:43am

re: #373 JordanRules

Put me in disapprove.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:46:05am

re: #374 PhillyPretzel

Put me in disapprove.

Highly disapprove.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:53:00am

re: #374 PhillyPretzel

Put me in disapprove.

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Highly disapprove.

Me too.

I must not be white enough.

Which does not surprise me, since I grew up in a low-middle class mixed race neighborhood.

I’m kinda grey!

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:56:11am

re: #363 JordanRules

I agree with all that.
I disagree that people getting their news from these new tools is the problem. They got the same bullshit they were predisposed to believe from websites, talk radio, blogs etc before social media. Charles saw all of it up close before Twitter and FB existed.

The new tools should be regulated for sure!

Agree. I’m getting increasingly testy about the victim blaming here, that anyone who participated at any level in FB and/or other social media has been willfully stupid/ignorant and deserving of privacy invasion and propagandist manipulation because “you shoulda knowed!” No. Just no.

These platforms have value as evidenced by the millions of people who have participated, using them to innocently connect and re-connect with others. There was no reason at all to suspect at the time the way data was being mined and weaponized. It hasn’t happened before like this, outside of advertising marketing which really isn’t threatening. Likely few people care much who knows they bought a new hammer last week or that they are now seeing targeted advertising for nails. Most people do not exist in paranoid clouds, suspicious of every new widget, nor should they in a civilized, lawful society.

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:12:37pm

re: #353 ObserverArt

This is only going to get more intrusive, how could it not?

Back in the 1970s there was a 60 Minutes segment that talked about the best thing that could happen to surveillance was the introduction of the Automated Clearing House (ACH) for financial transactions.

Talk about prescient….

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:12:08pm

re: #312 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I was going to post a tweet with a video on an escaped baboon leading researchers on a foot pursuit down a road , but this seemed more important

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

[Embedded content]

THat’s Mellencamp country!


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