Watch Live: Trump Holds Extremely Rare Press Conference to Attempt Rescue of Brett Kavanaugh

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Watch live coverage as President Trump holds a press conference at the conclusion of the United Nations General Assembly. Trump is also expected to comment on the impending Senate Judiciary Committee hearings with Judge Brett Kavanaugh and Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, set for Thursday.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 1:59:33pm

Dog help me, I’m watching.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 26, 2018 • 1:59:36pm

No

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 1:59:46pm

Please don’t make me watch this moron. I’ll upding every single person who gives updates.

I cannot force myself to watch him.

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Danack  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:00:07pm

CHYNA

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:01:01pm

“They would like to see me lose an election.”

IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU COLOSSAL NARCISSIST

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:01:11pm

Please share it all, I am not where I can watch.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:01:33pm

Colossal, that’s like really big, right?

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:01:54pm

A live recap…

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You’re welcome.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:01:58pm

re: #5 jaunte

“They would like to see me lose an election.”

IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU COLOSSAL NARCISSIST

By “they” does he mean 65% of the American public and 90% of the world?

Because, yes, yes “they” do.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:02:25pm

re: #5 jaunte

“They would like to see me lose an election.”

IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU COLOSSAL NARCISSIST

I’d prefer to see your pathetic ass in prison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:02:30pm

re: #5 jaunte

“They would like to see me lose an election.”

yes, you already lost the popular vote, we want to see you lose the EC vote as well

and we would like your party to lose its congressional majority

it’s not about you, it’s about America

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rhuarc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:02:31pm

re: #8 makeitstop

A live recap…

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You’re welcome.

I’m watching, but that’s all I can think of what he’s saying. Just repeated the proven “steel plant opening up” lie.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:03:03pm

re: #8 makeitstop

A live recap…

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You’re welcome.

Your Honor, there’s a lie in my soup.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:03:06pm

“I’d rather pay down debt”???!!!

You’ve never paid off a debt in your life, you fat orange bastard.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:03:35pm

re: #14 Ace Rothstein

“I’d rather pay down debt”???!!!

(Hides soybean bailout)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:03:58pm

Fuck you X100000

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:05:17pm

Biden never said that.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:05:20pm

My God.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:05:48pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:06:01pm

Democrats have destroyed Kavanaugh and his wife and his two beautiful children and are con artists.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:06:04pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Your Honor, there’s a lie in my soup.

Taste the soup

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:06:30pm
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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:06:36pm

He still thinks Red State Democrats are scared of him.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:07:01pm

Kavadouche is toast.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:07:08pm

“Are you saying that all three of these women are liars?”

“I won’t get into that game” “High quality” “All false to me”

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:07:10pm

Obama wasn’t big on picking judges. ??????

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:07:46pm

re: #26 calochortus

Obama wasn’t big on picking judges. ??????

Merrick Garland, etc.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:20pm

re: #26 calochortus

He wasn’t big on having his nominations obstructed.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:24pm

re: #27 makeitstop

Merrick Garland, etc.

Yeah. “They just got tired or something.”

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:31pm

What’s that whining noise?

Oh, it’s Trump.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:40pm

“Why did they wait? Why did Feinstein wait until after the hearings were over?”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:45pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:08:53pm

“This is a big con job”

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:09:13pm

Dismissive smug fuck.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:09:48pm

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

Dismissive smug fuck.

With a snotty tone of voice.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:09:54pm

Oh he got stung by Avenatti.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:10:02pm

Trump talking about looking at the facts, LOL.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:10:03pm

Telling victims that they can’t wait 36 years - in a completely sneering way.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:10:14pm

Just dissed Avenatti’s client.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:10:17pm

He seems to think repeating himself 20 or 30 times is going to sway public opinion…

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:10:51pm

re: #38 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Telling victims that they can’t wait 36 years - in a completely sneering way.

That will get him in tight with women voters.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:11:30pm

re: #41 calochortus

That will get him in tight with women voters.

Worked for Roy Moore vis-a-vis white women.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:11:33pm

Hey Trump, if you end socialism, you’ll end the US military.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:11:37pm

re: #31 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Why did they wait? Why did Feinstein wait until after the hearings were over?”

Honest question, how long has the Kavanaugh confirmation process been compared to prior nominees? I feel like every current member of the Court had a much longer confirmation process.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:11:56pm

Uh oh…why do you always side with the accused?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:12:10pm

Reporter just asked him to call on female reporters. LOL.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:12:20pm

He’s really testy. Avenatti drew blood for sure.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:12:23pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:13:01pm

re: #47 makeitstop

He’s really testy. Avenatti drew blood for sure.

He’s got his lips pursed, lots of sniffing, and bobbing his head back and forth like a pigeon.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:13:03pm

You supported Roy Moore, idiot.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:13:14pm

What the fuck?

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:13:24pm

re: #49 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s not as orange today.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:13:43pm

Dear God, this is total cringe.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:14:02pm

His head is about to go Scanners.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:14:04pm

Only one woman is being allowed to speak, asshole.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:14:17pm

re: #53 electrotek

Dear God, this is total cringe.

He ain’t helping anybody here. Maybe Avenatti.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:14:29pm

There it is! Kavadouche is done.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:14:42pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

He’s not as orange today.

He looks like he’s had a hell of a day and he’s pale. No pity for him.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:15:22pm

“Are these women all liars?”

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:15:28pm

Look at how he speaks to the female reporter, my God

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:15:34pm

Avenatti is living in his head big time.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:15:50pm

There is no “they”. Only one woman is speaking and dems are allowed only 5 (five) minutes per to question her.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:32pm

OK, I’ve raised my blood pressure just about enough.
BBL

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:33pm

Yep. Kavadouche has just been sent packing.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:33pm

Fake accusations. George Washington.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:36pm

re: #61 jaunte

Avenatti is living in his head big time.

You got that right. He’s seething.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:37pm

re: #57 Ace Rothstein

There it is! Kavadouche is done.

???? What happened?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:16:48pm
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Camp Waconda  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:15pm

What the hell is going on?!?

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:24pm

Press demanded she get her follow up. They are not having this shit today.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:41pm

Condescending prick.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:44pm

Oh, he’s a dick to the woman reporter.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:46pm

re: #67 MsJ

He keeps saying that he wants to wait until the hearing before he decides to pull the nomination.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:17:51pm

re: #62 Scottish Dragon

There is no “they”. Only one woman is speaking and dems are allowed only 5 (five) minutes per to question her.

I wonder if the Dems on the committee can all yield their time to one member to tackle all the questions… like, maybe Harris?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:03pm

re: #69 Camp Waconda

What the hell is going on?!?

I’m watching it and I don’t know!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:10pm

The worst President in the history of the country.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:16pm
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danarchy  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:17pm

re: #44 KGxvi

Honest question, how long has the Kavanaugh confirmation process been compared to prior nominees? I feel like every current member of the Court had a much longer confirmation process.

Eh seems about average:

senate.gov

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:19pm

re: #74 KGxvi

I wonder if the Dems on the committee can all yield their time to one member to tackle all the questions… like, maybe Harris?

Yes they can.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:23pm

re: #31 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Why did they wait? Why did Feinstein wait until after the hearings were over?”

Why didn’t DJT fire Comey after he won the nomination?

/

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:28pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

He keeps saying that he wants to wait until the hearing before he decides to pull the nomination.

But then he said he’s going to rely on Senior Republicans to fill him in.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:18:35pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:19:32pm

re: #5 jaunte

“They would like to see me lose an election.”

IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU COLOSSAL NARCISSIST

YES IT IS!!!!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:19:44pm

re: #81 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Correct. My point was that he left the option out there. He hasn’t done that before.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:20:04pm

He is interrupting another female reporter so she can’t finish her question.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:20:06pm

I cannot bear to look at him nor listen to him, so am relying on the reporting of others.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:20:46pm

re: #68 jaunte

He doesn’t have time for TV, he’s too busy being potus.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:20:48pm

16 women.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:20:54pm

Ok….. Here we go again

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:05pm

Going full Queeg here.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:25pm

I’m done. Can’t stand it anymore.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:30pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:34pm

“Talented and fair Republican senators”

Unicorns and mermaids up next.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:35pm

re: #88 Ace Rothstein

16 women.

16 angry women, 17 angry Democrats, corruption, hoax investigation.

///

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:46pm

Holy Shit!

Is the press actually doing its job?????

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:48pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

I cannot bear to look at him nor listen to him, so am relying on the reporting of others.

Excellent choice.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:21:51pm

Did he just admit that a woman wouldn’t take hush money, but talked instead?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:22:01pm
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KerFuFFler  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:22:16pm

JFC, Trump can’t let women finish their questions. When they try to finish their question he treats them like they are interrupting him.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:22:39pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

Oh yes Sean Hillary killed Seth Rich Hannity is a trustworthy source.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:23:07pm

Done…… Wife sez.. Done……..

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:23:15pm

He is drunk Gish Galloping.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:23:45pm

Yeah make the woman sit down, you shithead.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:23:51pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:23:58pm

re: #99 jaunte

WILL YOU STOP INTERUPPTING ME WHILE I AM INTERRUPTING YOU!

(actually funny line in The Darkest Hour)

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:24:15pm

Wow, he’s really being a dick.

Kavanaugh should withdraw. The polling is gonna get a lot worse.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:24:17pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:24:38pm

re: #103 Scottish Dragon

He is drunk Gish Galloping.

He’s famously a teetotaler, so he can’t even blame any of this on being drunk.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:24:39pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m with you on that. He’s awful to look at, but his voice is a nightmare.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:24:56pm

re: #108 jaunte

O’Keefe is in the audience?

/

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:25:11pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:25:27pm

He’s now not letting any reporter finish a question…question on China.

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SteelPH  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:25:35pm

re: #110 plansbandc

I’m with you on that. He’s awful to look at, but his voice is a nightmare.

It’s like having two piece of sandpaper rubbing together for an hour.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #109 KGxvi

He’s famously a teetotaler, so he can’t even blame any of this on being drunk.

The best pharmaceuticals…

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:25:57pm

Oh God I busted out laughing so hard in the office now…

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thecommodore  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:00pm

The woman who asked him questions after Hallie Jackson had him close to blowing up.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:07pm

If anyone in this administration has any self-respect left, they would all hand in their resignations by the time this circus of a press conference is over.

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Camp Waconda  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:10pm

His amazing brain. WTAF.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:37pm

China respects his “very large brain”?????? JFC

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:40pm

re: #118 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Can’t. The jobs at Fox when this shit is over with are worth too much.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:43pm

Serious SunDowning going on here.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:26:43pm

“Enough questions, woman! Now go home and get a home-cooked meal ready for your boyfriend!”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:27:27pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:27:37pm

Meanwhile at the Kremlin…Vlad is popping up his 10th Jiffy Pop of the night laughing his ass off!

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:27:50pm

Oh shit, a BLACK female reporter, let’s see how he handles this

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:28:20pm

re: #126 electrotek

Oh shit, a BLACK female reporter, let’s see how he handles this

She got her question out in less than 10 words.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:28:23pm

re: #107 makeitstop

makeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstop

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:28:34pm

He’s going to fire Rosenstein.

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SteelPH  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:29:17pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

Always so bizarre when he refers to himself in the third person.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:29:55pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

He’s going to fire Rosenstein.

Rosenstein should require that he fire him in person or it’s not official.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:29:55pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

He’s going to fire Rosenstein.

Isn’t that one of the triggers for large scale protests?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:30:09pm
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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:30:54pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Maybe right after the press conference. He’s gotta do something to take down the rage pressure and I don’t think tweeting is going to be enough.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:31:57pm

re: #23 makeitstop

He still thinks Red State Democrats are scared of him.

I don’t blame him for that given how Heitkamp and Manchin vote.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:31:58pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:07pm

You know, I’d have preferred democracy ending in thundering applause rather than this shit show.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:07pm

FAIRLY EXPENSIVE MONEY.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:13pm
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:16pm

re: #130 SteelPH

My ex-mother in law used to refer to herself in the third person all the time. One time she had surgery and my BIL, Keith, sent flowers to her in the hospital with a card that read, “Keith hopes you feel better soon!”

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Schweppes7  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:39pm

This press conference is a total shitshow.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:32:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:33:00pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:33:49pm

re: #135 Patricia Kayden

I don’t blame him for that given how Heitkamp and Manchin vote.

Heitkamp and Manchin are still responsible to their constituents, who are, overwhelmingly conservative, if not Republican. I don’t expect them to vote like Harris and Gillibrand

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:34:00pm

Turned it off. I couldn’t stand it any more.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:34:37pm

re: #145 makeitstop

Turned it off. I couldn’t stand it any more.

You made it stop!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:34:46pm

Yeah right. Obama was going to start WW 3.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:35:15pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:35:40pm

Actually, Republicans act as if they believe women when they accuse Democrats of sexual assault.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:35:54pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

Like he’d care. He also famously said in 2010 that his top priority was making Obama a one term president. Again, 2010, height of the recession - didn’t care about stabilizing banks, getting people back to work, stopping foreclosures, nope, all he wanted to do was beat Obama in 2012.

In other words, fuck McConnell.

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KerFuFFler  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:35:58pm

“What did Trump give the North Koreans?” Trump asks. “I gave them nothing.”

You cancelled our joint military training sessions (war games) with South Korea you fool!

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:36:20pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:37:12pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Heitkamp and Manchin are still responsible to their constituents, who are, overwhelmingly conservative, if not Republican. I don’t expect them to vote like Harris and Gillibrand

And that’s why Trump feels that they’re easy targets for him. I’m not making any judgments on them — just stating that I understand his comment.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:37:13pm
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Schweppes7  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:37:22pm

I cannot tell if he is trying to run out the clock on this thing or just rambling. Probably just rambling, I am sure he thinks he is nailing this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:37:26pm

Wait - what?

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:38:00pm

re: #155 Schweppes7

He always does.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:38:00pm

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

Actually, Republicans act as if they believe women when they accuse Democrats of sexual assault.

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It’s sort of a “no true Scotsman” situation. Conservatives “respect” women, therefore any allegations against a conservative not respecting a woman is not true.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:38:37pm

re: #158 KGxvi

It’s sort of a “no true Scotsman” situation. Conservatives “respect” women, therefore any allegations against a conservative not respecting a woman is not true.

They only “respect” women when they can use it as a cudgel against those they don’t like, i.e. Muslims, Mexicans.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:38:37pm

Did he just say Obama was going to bomb North Korea??!!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:38:55pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes. Says the man who has never paid off a debt in his life.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:39:07pm

re: #160 Scottish Dragon

Pretty much.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:39:16pm

re: #160 Scottish Dragon

Did he just say Obama was going to bomb North Korea??!!

Yes.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:39:20pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:39:58pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - what?

No understanding how our economy works.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:41:27pm

re: #154 Scottish Dragon

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Is that the same Ron Fournier for whom President Obama could do nothing right? LOL.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:02pm

He’s insane.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:06pm

He is now play acting at the lectern….

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:21pm

Deflect, deflect, deflect

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:29pm

re: #154 Scottish Dragon

Reap what you sowed, Ron. You sowed and sowed for years.

Fuck you, while I’m at it.

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SteelPH  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:42:55pm
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Schweppes7  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:43:14pm

Lol. Now he is ranting that Elizabeth Warren got a call from a Russian comedian offering information, she wanted it, and if he had done it that would be “a big deal.” Did he just forget about the Trump Tower meeting which was literally EXACTLY like that situation except worse in every way based on the timing and the people involved….

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:43:25pm

re: #120 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

China respects his “very large brain”?????? JFC

I know he didn’t say that. Y’all taking this way too far.

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KerFuFFler  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:43:36pm

Jeez, here he goes interrupting the woman reporter before she even finishes her question.

He interrupted her like four times and won’t let her get a word in edgewise.

Makes me want to slap him with an old dead fish.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:43:51pm

re: #165 Belafon

No understanding how our economy anything works.

FIFY

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:43:53pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

And he still hasn’t let her ask her question.

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Danack  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:03pm

New drinking game. Rules are simple. Drink. Drink as much as you want.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:11pm

re: #175 KerFuFFler

Jeez, here he goes interrupting the women reporter before she even finishes her question.

He interrupted her like four times and won’t let her get a word in edgewise.

Makes me want to slap him with an old dead fish.

Didn’t help that she was affiliated with a Rupert Murdoch-owned outlet in her favor.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:36pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

Is that the same Ron Fournier for whom President Obama could do nothing right? LOL.

Yes. The same Presstitute!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:51pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:54pm

He never let her asks her question. What an ass.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:44:55pm

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

I know he didn’t say that. Y’all taking this way too far.

Alas, he did. Acosta tweeted it.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:45:06pm

Kurdish reporter on the line.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:45:27pm

re: #178 Danack

New drinking game. Rules are simple. Drink. Drink as much as you want.

You’ll be less drunk than you would be if you did it once per every time he lies.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:45:47pm

In a normal world, this would be the end of his presidency.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:45:58pm

“We defeated ISIS” he tells the Kurd.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:46:12pm

The Kurds are also fucked.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:46:23pm
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thecommodore  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:46:34pm

re: #117 thecommodore

The woman who asked him questions after Hallie Jackson had him close to blowing up.

Her name is Weijia Jiang of CBS News. Trump told her to “Sit Down” at one point.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:47:00pm

The only friends he has in Canada are those like Faith Goldy and Doug Ford.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:47:34pm

Thank goodness my kid texted me so I can meet her at the bus stop. I’m out! Yes!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:47:46pm

STUTTERING JOHN GOT THROUGH TO YOU ON AIR FORCE ONE.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:47:53pm

re: #186 Ace Rothstein

In a normal world, this would be the end of his presidency.

In a normal world, Trump would be serving time, rather than lording above better people.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:48:58pm
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:49:23pm

So we are gonna make billions taxing China??

Whaaaaa…?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:49:47pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:49:48pm

re: #130 SteelPH

Always so bizarre when he refers to himself in the third person.

Someone has got to talk him up.

He really stepped all over the British Sky reporter. He interrupted her almost after each word she would try to get out.

There sure are gonna be a lot of people he has mentioned in this rambling pile of dung that will be calling the media to refute the crap he said about them.

At the top of that list might be Barack Obama.

Shout ‘em down Trump…don’t back off or give them any room. Typical Trump tactics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:49:49pm

I am so not listening to this. But I am watching with the sound off and Trump is making faces like that GIF of him side by side with Charles Manson, both of them making the same faces.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:50:11pm

re: #183 MsJ

Alas, he did. Acosta tweeted it.

Oh dear. And that’s probably not the worst thing he said during his diatribe. Sigh.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:50:12pm

re: #186 Ace Rothstein

That’s what I said the one time I watched one of his campaign rallies (the real ones, before he became the alt president). The man is absolutely batshit insane.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:50:54pm

“They died for themselves. And they’re great people!”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:51:38pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:51:41pm

what.exactly.is.happening?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:52:44pm

re: #194 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

In a normal world, Trump would be serving time, rather than lording above better people.

Mueller is working on that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:53:43pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:54:01pm

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

If we keep him up there long enough, a gasket will blow.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:54:16pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:54:53pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:55:22pm

He is giving fucking Assad a green light to attack civilian targets.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:55:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:55:55pm

re: #196 Scottish Dragon

So we are gonna make billions taxing China??

Whaaaaa…?

I guess you can tell him the same thing over and over - like tariffs are ultimately paid by the consumer - but he still thinks ‘Tariff on China - China pays’.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:55:56pm

No, seriously, what the fuck is happening?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:56:22pm

re: #208 MsJ

Good to hear but can the other Republican Senators ignore Murkowski? Trump just insinuated that the vote on Kavanaugh could happen this weekend.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:56:42pm

re: #155 Schweppes7

I cannot tell if he is trying to run out the clock on this thing or just rambling. Probably just rambling, I am sure he thinks he is nailing this.

We’ve heard how many times” “he thinks he can talk his way out of everything.”

This is what he has done all his life. Bully and Posture.

Sadly in so many ways it has worked because of people allowing it or believing him.

It is another display of why he was voted in. It all sounds so good. Especially if you don’t check the damn facts.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:56:56pm

re: #208 MsJ

And now we know what the conversation with DiFi was about.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:57:14pm

OMFG. I didn’t get the significance.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:57:22pm

Does anyone here think this idiot knows that the USA turned Iran upside down in 1953 and it’s been fucked up ever since?

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:57:23pm

re: #208 MsJ

Where’s that total disgrace Collins on this?

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:57:42pm

re: #209 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Don’t forget that there is some overlap in the stupid and evil camps… that’s where the Trumps fall.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:58:36pm

re: #218 Ace Rothstein

Of course not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:59:05pm

The white ones are the only ones he cares about, the only ones who count.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:59:13pm

re: #219 Skip Intro

Where’s that total disgrace Collins on this?

Sitting in the corner being a total disgrace.

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Schweppes7  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:59:15pm

re: #219 Skip Intro

Collins is “concerned.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:59:28pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

Is that the same Ron Fournier for whom President Obama could do nothing right? LOL.

You don’t see Ron around much anymore. I guess his act wore thin.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 2:59:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:00:17pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:00:32pm

“That was not laughing at me.”

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:00:32pm

!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:00:56pm

“They respect what I’ve done. The United States is respected again.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:01:01pm

This press conference is nauseating.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:01:14pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

You don’t see Ron around much anymore. I guess his act wore thin.

That’s what happens when you know you helped build this shit and want to keep going but trump is just too fucking crazy and you can’t lie to yourself enough to do so.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:01:30pm

Now he’s pitching his global protection racket.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:01:34pm

We had a good time together. They weren’t laughing at me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:01:38pm

re: #229 plansbandc

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!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brainwashed fucking morons.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:02:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:02:17pm

re: #233 jaunte

Now he’s pitching his global protection racket.

Nice little world you got here…

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:02:24pm

Now he is doing the protection racket bit. Pay us or else.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:02:41pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

Reminds me of Jeb Bartlett asking Charlie if he thought he could take George Washington.

Like in a war?

Yeah.

Well, sir, you’d have the Air Force, and he’d have the minutemen?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:03:12pm

“A tremendous genius”

Is that better than a stable genius?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:03:12pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:03:13pm
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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:03:53pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

Well that’s classic!! 🤣🤣🤣

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:04:17pm

Women were paid to say bad things about me.

He is gonna get sued for that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:04:24pm

I never thought we’d have such a combative President in office. He’s bullying around these reporters.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:04:39pm

re: #173 Schweppes7

Lol. Now he is ranting that Elizabeth Warren got a call from a Russian comedian offering information, she wanted it, and if he had done it that would be “a big deal.” Did he just forget about the Trump Tower meeting which was literally EXACTLY like that situation except worse in every way based on the timing and the people involved….

It is the snake story again.

It is always an admittance story with him..the ultimate projection.

I really think he feels by doing it this way he is telling the truth. It is his confessional.

Also why he uses “Trump” when talking about himself. It is always about him no matter the tall tale. Always flip it around and there lie the facts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:04:50pm

re: #229 plansbandc

Scott Jennings

@ScottJenningsKY
I have to say - I think the president has handled this press conference pretty well. He’s in control, not jumpy. Clear in his messages on a range of topics. Made a couple of measured and careful statements on sensitive topics. @realDonaldTrump

4:49 PM - Sep 26, 2018
37
463 people are talking about this

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this the take of sane Republicans?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:05:08pm

Wow, he’s still ripping on the Times.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:05:40pm

re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹

Everyone! There is acid in the BROWN CUPS!

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:06:01pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:06:40pm

Now he’s going to say how easy it will be for him to make a Middle East deal.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:07:01pm

…the whole ‘thing with Jerusalem’…

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SteelPH  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:07:05pm

re: #250 MsJ

“Mr. President, you do realize that you’ve just incriminated yourself in about 15 different ways in the last 60 seconds, right?”
“FAKE NEWS!!!11ty”

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:07:32pm

Is he STILL going?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:07:55pm

re: #254 MsJ

Jerusalem stone is one of his favorite stones.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:08:20pm

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

I know he didn’t say that. Y’all taking this way too far.

Patricia. This is Trump. Why do you doubt so?

He is in his element…and that is when the crap is flung.

He has turned this into another of his campaign rallies.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:08:23pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:08:33pm

re: #254 MsJ

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:08:55pm

Was at gym. Low down of Trump presser?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:09:00pm

re: #224 Schweppes7

Collins is “concerned.”

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Never fear, Kavanaugh told Collins that it was “settled law” that he didn’t sexually assault anyone. All good now.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:09:06pm

Written Testimony of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford
United States Senate Judiciary Committee
September 26, 2018

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:09:49pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Was at gym. Low down of Trump presser?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

re: #257 KGxvi

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Oh so it was a shit show since that moron loved it.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:15pm

re: #257 KGxvi

I’m not watching it, but I’m pretty sure the point of it was to cover up his lack of confidence with rage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:32pm

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Oh so it was a shit show since that moron loved it.

Trump thinks he’s killing it, and so do his sycophants. It’s surreal.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:35pm

re: #261 gocart mozart

He’s done.

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SteelPH  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:36pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Was at gym. Low down of Trump presser?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:48pm

Short-term memory problems.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:10:49pm

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

Good to hear but can the other Republican Senators ignore Murkowski? Trump just insinuated that the vote on Kavanaugh could happen this weekend.

Bork was a no vote in committee. He raised a stink and demanded a full floor vote anyway. Which he got.

42 yes, 58 no.

Six of those “no“‘s were Republicans.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:11:17pm

LOL.

Humor where we can find it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:11:51pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:11:54pm

re: #264 Belafon

I’m not watching it, but I’m pretty sure the point of it was to cover up his lack of confidence with rage.

I’m not watching either, but this seems like the best summary of what happened:

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:13:00pm

Snowjob, Gish Gallop, Bullshit Torrent.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:13:15pm

Is this the same China he’s tariffed the fuck out of and preemptively accused of election tampering?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:13:29pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:13:34pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:13:46pm

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:14:19pm

re: #208 MsJ

Brian Krassenstein
@krassenstein
BREAKING: GOP Senator Lisa Murkowski now wants the Senate panel to hear from Kavanaugh’s second accuser, Debbie Ramirez.

In other words, this is going to drag on long enough for probably several more women to come forward.

5:29 PM - Sep 25, 2018

If Murkowski asks for that, then the third accuser will be granted a hearing too.

If others back Murkowski, say 5 or more, Kavanaugh may withdraw. He is only going to get beat more and more.

In fight parlance…throw in the towel. TKO!

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:15:10pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:15:19pm

Now he’s on the NAFTA bullshit again.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:15:21pm

re: #278 ObserverArt

If Murkowski asks for that, then the third accuser will be granted a hearing too.

If others back Murkowski, say 5 or more, Kavanaugh may withdraw. He is only going to get beat more and more.

In fight parlance…throw in the towel. TKO!

Let’s hope.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:16:30pm
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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:16:40pm

re: #279 jaunte

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:18:51pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:18:59pm

She’s not wrong…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:20:16pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:20:47pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:20:50pm

Not stupid. Not brainwashed.

They voted for someone who demonstrates who they want to be.

Donald Trump is a confession. No matter how they gild themselves with piety and principles, not matter what authority they conjure with, this is, at the core, what they imagine to be the correct use of power, and the correct application of authority. It’s how they would act if they if they could.

They enjoy these displays of incontinence because nothing matters, nothing is true, outside their sense of gratification, and Trump is their proxy.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:21:18pm

re: #229 plansbandc

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!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don’t look now…

IT’S THE PIVOT!!!

And it always comes during Infrastructure Week.

And he’s finished.

Trump has left the room. Trump has left the room.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:21:27pm

And note - Wilson tweeted this BEFORE the likes of Charlie Kirk weighed in.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:21:27pm
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KerFuFFler  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:21:37pm

So Trump is making it seem like now women are going to make up lies about all conservative judicial nominees and that it is all just political.

No one said these kinds of things about Gorsuch or Alito or Roberts. There is no reason to assume that the women are lying about Kavanaugh.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:22:03pm

That was a most excruciating 80 minutes. No wonder he doesn’t do press conferences.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:22:24pm

re: #287 jaunte

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“They’re gonna say you sexually assaulted them, so you might was well just do it.”

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:22:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:23:07pm

re: #289 ObserverArt

Don’t look now…

IT’S THE PIVOT!!!

And it always comes during Infrastructure Week.

And he’s finished.

Trump has left the room. Trump has left the room.

Today he became President?
//

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:23:25pm

re: #288 The Ghost of a Flea

Not stupid. Not brainwashed.

They voted for someone who demonstrates who they want to be.

Donald Trump is a confession. No matter how they gild themselves with piety and principles, not matter what authority they conjure with, this is, at the core, what they imagine to be the correct use of power, and the correct application of authority. It’s how they would act if they if they could.

They enjoy these displays of incontinence because nothing matters, nothing is true, outside their sense of gratification, and Trump is their proxy.

Big Lebowski - Nihilists

“Say what you will about the tenants of national socialism, but at least it is an ethos”

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:23:34pm

It’s over. The only question in my mind is, did listening to this presser kill more brain cells than the beer I drank while listening to this presser.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:23:37pm

re: #288 The Ghost of a Flea

Not stupid. Not brainwashed.

They voted for someone who demonstrates who they want to be.

Donald Trump is a confession. No matter how they gild themselves with piety and principles, not matter what authority they conjure with, this is, at the core, what they imagine to be the correct use of power, and the correct application of authority. It’s how they would act if they if they could.

They enjoy these displays of incontinence because nothing matters, nothing is true, outside their sense of gratification, and Trump is their proxy.

They think this show of support will make them strong. I think the exposure of exactly who they are will bring them down.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:24:36pm

re: #292 KerFuFFler

So Trump is making it seem like now women are going to make up lies about all conservative judicial nominees and that it is all just political.

No one said these kinds of things about Gorsuch or Alito or Roberts. There is no reason to assume that the women are lying about Kavanaugh.

Exactly. But conservatives have been playing the judicial victim card like Bork & Thomas. Maybe stop nominating creepy douches.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:24:44pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:25:28pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Was at gym. Low down of Trump presser?

Me. Me. Me. Shut up. Fake news. Me. Me. My Brain. Me. Con Job. Me. Me.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:25:29pm

Is he subtweeting himself?

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:25:54pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:26:42pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Exactly. But conservatives have been playing the judicial victim card like Bork & Thomas. Maybe stop nominating creepy douches.

Bork at least was rejected because his jurisprudence was way too far out of the mainstream. Miers was rejectedwithdrawn because she was completely unqualified.

There’s literally been TWO Supreme Court nominees in the last 30 yearsever that have faced questions regarding potential sexual harassment/assault.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:27:39pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:28:13pm
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:28:33pm

My God I am for real ROTFMAO

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:28:51pm

re: #299 wrenchwench

They think this show of support will make them strong. I think the exposure of exactly who they are will bring them down.

I really hope you’re right, but these kinds of outbreaks of solipcistic fuckery can go on before the waveform collapses.

Sort of like the Roadrunner bit where Wile E Coyote runs off the cliff but doesn’t fall until he doesn’t look down.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:29:56pm

re: #281 MsJ

Let’s hope.

Mitch will not want to lose. He’d rather back out and let the media blame it on Trump and Kavanaugh.

In some ways. Mitch might want this to happen. He knows the numbers.

He has to decide what poison he wants. Now or later?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:30:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:30:22pm
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:30:52pm

That was like….Vogon poetry bad.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:31:33pm
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Kilroy was here  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:31:34pm

This was the Star Wars Holiday Specials of Press conferences..

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:32:24pm

If that guy had any friends they would be staging an intervention right about now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:33:41pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember Mollie Ringwald’s reexamination of the movies she starred in back in the 80s, like “Sixteen Candles” where the totally wasted Head Cheerleader has sex with the King of the Dipshits thinking it’s her boyfriend, and it was her boyfriend’s idea, and he’s a Good Guy because he thinks she’s trash and is more interested in Mollie’s character.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:34:44pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

That was a most excruciating 80 minutes. No wonder he doesn’t do press conferences.

Fucker probably thinks he should do more.

He’s back in his office watching himself right now and asking his cabinet members what they thought were his best statements.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:35:13pm

It’s 68 degrees right now here in North Texas.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:35:20pm

re: #315 Kilroy was here

This was the Star Wars Holiday Specials of Press conferences..

Given by the Jar Jar Binks of presidents.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:35:58pm

Goat break:

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Kilroy was here  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:38:40pm

re: #320 KGxvi

Given by the Jar Jar Binks of presidents.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:38:47pm

If the MSM and the liberals hated it (as if those are two different groups of people), then Trump NAILED it!!

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:39:15pm

re: #303 Interesting Times

Is he subtweeting himself?

Michael Steele ✔
@MichaelSteele
End this now, dear lord, please. I am truly sorry for my sins. #TrumpPresser

6:18 PM - Sep 26, 2018 * Maryland, USA

Say five Our Father’s, ten Hail Mary’s and then swear you will quit the party, become a Democrat and spill the info that can help end the party.

Nothing short of that will save you Michael.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:40:31pm
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dangerman  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:40:45pm

re: #309 The Ghost of a Flea

I really hope you’re right, but these kinds of outbreaks of solipcistic fuckery can go on before the waveform collapses.

Sort of like the Roadrunner bit where Wile E Coyote runs off the cliff but doesn’t fall until he doesn’t look down.

cartoon physics

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:40:51pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:43:19pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

I heard rumors in high school in the mid-90s of things like that happening at parties. I wasn’t the sort to go to parties in high school, let alone drink, so I don’t know how true it was, but for some of the douchebag meatheads I knew back then it wouldn’t be out of character.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:43:35pm

re: #327 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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“And it would have worked, too, if it weren’t for you meddlesome kids women and your stupid dog journalists and lawyers!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:44:20pm

Only a matter of a time before the White House issues a detailed explanation of the hidden messages in the Beatles’ White Album.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:00pm

Heh. Watching Ari and they just flashed Avenatti up next. And here he is. Phone interview.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:12pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember Mollie Ringwald’s reexamination of the movies she starred in back in the 80s, like “Sixteen Candles” where the totally wasted Head Cheerleader has sex with the King of the Dipshits thinking it’s her boyfriend, and it was her boyfriend’s idea, and he’s a Good Guy because he thinks she’s trash and is more interested in Mollie’s character.

There’s also the rape scene in Revenge of the Nerds where Robert Carradine’s character rapes via deception the cheerleader, who thought he was Ted McGinley, but it was all rendered “ok” because she ended up thinking the sex was better. The ’80s were trash.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:21pm

re: #330 The Ghost of a Flea

Only a matter of a time before the White House issues a detailed explanation of the hidden messages in the Beatles’ White Album.

Light a candle and listen to the press conference backwards…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:25pm

re: #330 The Ghost of a Flea

Only a matter of a time before the White House issues a detailed explanation of the hidden messages in the Beatles’ White Album.

If you play the press conference backwards, he’s speaking in a normal tone of voice, answering questions coherently and truthfully.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:48pm

re: #333 KGxvi

re: #334 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds and all that.

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Cheechako  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:45:51pm

Did Happy Hour start early at the White House?

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VegasGolfer  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:46:40pm

Its been a wild day, but is this woman #4 who has come forward?

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:47:07pm

re: #336 Cheechako

Did Happy Hour start early at the White House?

They don’t have happy hours anymore at the White House, now it’s just always last call.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:47:38pm

re: #334 Blind Frog Belly White

If you play the press conference backwards, he’s speaking in a normal tone of voice, answering questions coherently and truthfully.

“I did it”

“I did it”

“I did it”

“I did it”

At the end of it, stuck in the last track.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:47:41pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:47:50pm

re: #337 VegasGolfer

Yes.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:48:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:48:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:49:14pm

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

There’s also the rape scene in Revenge of the Nerds where Robert Carradine’s character rapes via deception the cheerleader, who thought he was Ted McGinley, but it was all rendered “ok” because she ended up thinking the sex was better. The ’80s were trash.

Right, and they sell pies, with topless pictures of her glued to the bottom of the pieplate. And this was considered good fun.

It’s hard to look back on a lot of the movies that we watched and loved in those days without getting more than a little creeped out.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:49:21pm

A drunk, degenerate gambler and sexual deviant has been nominated to be an associate justice of the Supreme Court.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:50:19pm

re: #314 jaunte

Whoa. That guy is the US national editor for the Financial Times, so not just any old guy with a blue checkmark.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:50:44pm

re: #342 Charles Johnson

Weird because our intelligence agencies have clearly stated that it is Russia which has engaged in interference in our 2016 election and poses a threat to our future elections.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:51:02pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:51:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:51:27pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

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Not just preps and Ivies in the 1980s. Remember the shit young men on camera said to each other in the wake of the rape of a young high school girl in Steubenville, OH a few years ago.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:08pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:16pm

Holy fuck. That’s just all I can say. Holy fuck.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:18pm

re: #314 jaunte

Never happen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:29pm

re: #348 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s 4, and 16 years after graduating from High School.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:33pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

You don’t see Ron around much anymore. I guess his act wore thin.

The Black man is not in the White House anymore so …

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:53:38pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Right, and they sell pies, with topless pictures of her glued to the bottom of the pieplate. And this was considered good fun.

It’s hard to look back on a lot of the movies that we watched and loved in those days without getting more than a little creeped out.

I was more than a little creeped out back then. I don’t watch very many movies now, or over the last 40 years.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:54:42pm

re: #345 Ace Rothstein

A drunk, degenerate gambler and sexual deviant has been nominated to be an associate justice of the Supreme Court.

Who’s indebted to God only knows who.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:02pm

New charge from 1998 of Kavanaugh shoving a woman against a wall drunkenly (Kasie Hunt reporting).

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:03pm

Breaking News: There’s a fourth accusation.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:04pm

NBC is reporting that a fourth accusation of misconduct was called into a Republican Senator. The shoes are dropping.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:16pm

Kasie Hunt is saying this new drunken Kavanaugh story is from 1998.

No longer a “kid.”

The accuser is remaining anonymous. But, the letter she wrote was seen by Senators that turned it over to the Judiciary committee.

It happened outside a DC bar.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:24pm

I win!

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:40pm

re: #345 Ace Rothstein

A drunk, degenerate gambler and sexual deviant has been nominated to be an associate justice of the Supreme Court.

IOW, the perfect Republican for 2018….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:56:57pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Right, and they sell pies, with topless pictures of her glued to the bottom of the pieplate. And this was considered good fun.

It’s hard to look back on a lot of the movies that we watched and loved in those days without getting more than a little creeped out.

And that was better than we were before that. Other than the Conservatives, we’re improving over time. There will be things we’re looked down on for accepting.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:57:10pm

re: #362 Barefoot Grin

I win!

See, Trump kept his promise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:57:12pm

re: #356 wrenchwench

I was more than a little creeped out back then. I don’t watch very many movies now, or over the last 40 years.

I’d imagine a lot of young women were at the time. I also suspect a lot of them didn’t say anything because they didn’t want to seem ‘uncool’.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:57:18pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Right, and they sell pies, with topless pictures of her glued to the bottom of the pieplate. And this was considered good fun.

It’s hard to look back on a lot of the movies that we watched and loved in those days without getting more than a little creeped out.

The thing about those movies that you have to remember, is how they are written, who is the protagonist? Who are we, as the audience, supposed to want to see succeed? It’s sort of like the anti-hero stories of the last decade or two. Walter White was, by all reasonable analysis, a terrible person - but he was a great character, and the story was written in a way to make us sympathetic to him. It is often hard to take that step back and view a show outside the lens that the storyteller wants us to view it through.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:58:20pm

I’m going to yoga in a few minutes, where I will spend an hour stretching out my body, getting into poses and not thinking about any of this. It’s my hope that when I walk out at 17:30 PT, the Kavanaugh nomination will have turned into smoking ash.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:58:34pm

re: #367 KGxvi

The thing about those movies that you have to remember, is how they are written, who is the protagonist? Who are we, as the audience, supposed to want to see succeed? It’s sort of like the anti-hero stories of the last decade or two. Walter White was, by all reasonable analysis, a terrible person - but he was a great character, and the story was written in a way to make us sympathetic to him. It is often hard to take that step back and view a show outside the lens that the storyteller wants us to view it through.

What do I know? I’m happy the lamp got a new home.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:59:19pm

re: #345 Ace Rothstein

A drunk, degenerate gambler and sexual deviant has been nominated to be an associate justice of the Supreme Court.

In fairness, I’d be fine with a drunk, degenerate gambler on the Court… they’d be more likely to protect the right to privacy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 3:59:23pm

re: #361 ObserverArt

Kasie Hunt is saying this new drunken Kavanaugh story is from 1998.

No longer a “kid.”

The accuser is remaining anonymous. But, the letter she wrote was seen by Senators that turned it over to the Judiciary committee.

It happened outside a DC bar.

Right around when he was part of Starr’s team. Hell in 1998, he was older than I am and I haven’t been a “kid” in years.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:00:43pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:01:06pm

re: #367 KGxvi

The thing about those movies that you have to remember, is how they are written, who is the protagonist? Who are we, as the audience, supposed to want to see succeed? It’s sort of like the anti-hero stories of the last decade or two. Walter White was, by all reasonable analysis, a terrible person - but he was a great character, and the story was written in a way to make us sympathetic to him. It is often hard to take that step back and view a show outside the lens that the storyteller wants us to view it through.

That’s one reason I refused to watch certain otherwise lauded series: I was not a fan of rooting for drug dealers (Breaking Bad) or serial killers (Dexter) or mobsters (The Sopranos). I don’t want to feel sympathy for people who are truly objectively evil.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:02:12pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

Right around when he was part of Starr’s team. Hell in 1998, he was older than I am and I haven’t been a “kid” in years.

It sounded like the new revelation came from the mother of the woman that was groped by Kavanaugh.

And Jennifer Rubin is talking about the FBI looking into Kav’s alcohol issues.

Wow. This is getting bad. Kavanaugh is getting hammered.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:02:48pm

re: #374 ObserverArt

It sounded like the new revelation came from the mother of the woman that was groped by Kavanaugh.

And Jennifer Rubin is talking about the FBI looking into Kav’s alcohol issues.

Wow. This is getting bad. Kavanaugh is getting hammered.

He’s going to want get hammered in another way when this is done.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:04:39pm

re: #363 Jay C

IOW, the perfect Republican for 2018….

Not quite. He has to diddle kids too.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:04:46pm

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s one reason I refused to watch certain otherwise lauded series: I was not a fan of rooting for drug dealers (Breaking Bad) or serial killers (Dexter) or mobsters (The Sopranos). I don’t want to feel sympathy for people who are truly objectively evil.

It’s not just those anti-hero shows though. This happens in a lot of stories. One of my recent realizations on this is Rounders. Mike McDermitt (played by Matt Damon) is, in my view, an addict and not really a good person. Yet he’s very easy to root for in the movie. But I’ve been watching that movie regularly for 20 years, and it didn’t really occur to me until the last couple of years - even though all the signs are there.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:04:58pm

When there is 1, there is 2. When there is 2, there is 4. There will be more…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:04:59pm

re: #367 KGxvi

The thing about those movies that you have to remember, is how they are written, who is the protagonist? Who are we, as the audience, supposed to want to see succeed? It’s sort of like the anti-hero stories of the last decade or two. Walter White was, by all reasonable analysis, a terrible person - but he was a great character, and the story was written in a way to make us sympathetic to him. It is often hard to take that step back and view a show outside the lens that the storyteller wants us to view it through.

Yeah, but….

Nerds can be sympathetic heroes without being rapey. It wasn’t portrayed as “These poor guys were pushed to this!”, but rather “Snotty bitch deserved it!”

The more I think about it, the more parallels I see with the Incels of today - these women were nasty and hurtful to the protagonists, and end up being tricked into sex with them one way or another. That’s nonconsensual sex, no matter how you slice it. And then they always try to make it okay by having the woman say how good it was, or that she now likes the guy more.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:05:14pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

He’s going to want get hammered in another way when this is done.

Heh. I used that word for a reason.

I have to admit. I do feel bad for his wife and daughters. They may be learning more about him then they ever thought possible. And all the attention. Damn.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:05:43pm

re: #369 MsJ

What do I know? I’m happy the lamp got a new home.

I just realized this is a Canadian ad. And yes. I was happy for the lamp.

Lamp 2

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Kilroy was here  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:06:33pm

This is be goodbye…

Wonder how drunk he is going to get tonight?

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:07:25pm

I wonder what his problem with Chrystia Freeland could be..

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:07:40pm

re: #380 ObserverArt

Heh. I used that word for a reason.

I have to admit. I do feel bad for his wife and daughters. They may be learning more about him then they ever thought possible. And all the attention. Damn.

I definitely do too especially their daughters. That’s why he should withdraw. He needs to take a hard look at himself and his life.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:09:14pm

re: #377 KGxvi

It’s not just those anti-hero shows though. This happens in a lot of stories. One of my recent realizations on this is Rounders. Mike McDermitt (played by Matt Damon) is, in my view, an addict and not really a good person. Yet he’s very easy to root for in the movie. But I’ve been watching that movie regularly for 20 years, and it didn’t really occur to me until the last couple of years - even though all the signs are there.

Anti heroes have always made more compelling protagonists than traditional heroes.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:10:14pm

re: #381 MsJ

I just realized this is a Canadian ad. And yes. I was happy for the lamp.

[Embedded content]

Oh, my. I needed that.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:10:26pm

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but….

Nerds can be sympathetic heroes without being rapey. It wasn’t portrayed as “These poor guys were pushed to this!”, but rather “Snotty bitch deserved it!”

The more I think about it, the more parallels I see with the Incels of today - these women were nasty and hurtful to the protagonists, and end up being tricked into sex with them one way or another. That’s nonconsensual sex, no matter how you slice it. And then they always try to make it okay by having the woman say how good it was, or that she now likes the guy more.

I don’t disagree about how it was portrayed. But from the protagonist point of view it can also be seen as comeuppance for the villains. And I don’t disagree that it was rape. I’m just looking at it from a storyteller’s perspective, and can understand how it can be justified within the context of a story. But by no means am I condoning it.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:10:46pm

Did the $200K in credit card debt that just suddenly got paid off raise any eyebrows?

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:11:05pm

re: #288 The Ghost of a Flea

Not stupid. Not brainwashed.

They voted for someone who demonstrates who they want to be.

Donald Trump is a confession. No matter how they gild themselves with piety and principles, not matter what authority they conjure with, this is, at the core, what they imagine to be the correct use of power, and the correct application of authority. It’s how they would act if they if they could.

They enjoy these displays of incontinence because nothing matters, nothing is true, outside their sense of gratification, and Trump is their proxy.

I’ve said this before, but Trump is wingnut God.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:11:09pm

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Anti heroes have always made more compelling protagonists than traditional heroes.

Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Hulk Hogan.

The best characters are complex.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:13:21pm

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s one reason I refused to watch certain otherwise lauded series: I was not a fan of rooting for drug dealers (Breaking Bad) or serial killers (Dexter) or mobsters (The Sopranos). I don’t want to feel sympathy for people who are truly objectively evil.

I respect the choice, I see where you’re coming from.

For me, though, there was a lot more to Breaking Bad than just making us root for drug dealers. It was a character study in ego and hubris, and Walter White watching everything he’d built crumble, leaving him broke, isolated, on the run, and dying alone, having to face the fact that he hadn’t done it for his family, he hadn’t been forced into it by circumstance - he did it because he enjoyed it and it made him feel powerful, and paid no attention to who it hurt.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:13:29pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Right, and they sell pies, with topless pictures of her glued to the bottom of the pieplate. And this was considered good fun.

It’s hard to look back on a lot of the movies that we watched and loved in those days without getting more than a little creeped out.

Animal House…Do it! Fuck her brains out!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:14:37pm

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

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I love Alexandra Petri.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:15:58pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

I definitely do too especially their daughters. That’s why he should withdraw. He needs to take a hard look at himself and his life.

He won’t. Don Jaun being dragged to hell is more likely to engage in that kind of introspection.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:16:24pm

re: #392 Scottish Dragon

Animal House…Do it! Fuck her brains out!

That and “I’m only 13”.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:16:40pm

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but….

Nerds can be sympathetic heroes without being rapey. It wasn’t portrayed as “These poor guys were pushed to this!”, but rather “Snotty bitch deserved it!”

The more I think about it, the more parallels I see with the Incels of today - these women were nasty and hurtful to the protagonists, and end up being tricked into sex with them one way or another. That’s nonconsensual sex, no matter how you slice it. And then they always try to make it okay by having the woman say how good it was, or that she now likes the guy more.

Real Genius is a far, far better movie about nerds in college and that is probably because it had a woman directing it.

One of the few college age 80s comedies that still stands up.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:16:50pm

re: #392 Scottish Dragon

Animal House…Do it! Fuck her brains out!

Yabbut he doesn’t. The angel in his shoulder wins over the devil in the other.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:17:00pm

Kavadouche and his wife make a combined $240K. They live in a $1.5 million dollar crib, which translates to about a $9500 a month mortgage including taxes, etc. After income taxes, they probably bring home, maybe, $14,000. They also put both of their girls in private school. They, other than the equity in their home, are broke, or close to it.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:17:51pm

re: #398 Ace Rothstein

Kavadouche and his wife make a combined $240K. They live in a $1.5 million dollar crib, which translates to about a $9500 a month mortgage including taxes, etc. After income taxes, they probably bring home, maybe, $14,000. They also put both of their girls in private school. They, other than the equity in their home, are broke, or close to it.

Don’t forget the $92,000 to join The Club.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:18:12pm

re: #397 MsJ

Yabbut he doesn’t. The angel in his shoulder wins over the devil in the other.

The joke is that he could have.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:18:34pm

re: #394 William Lewis

He won’t. Don Jaun being dragged to hell is more likely to engage in that kind of introspection.

YouTube

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danarchy  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:18:45pm

re: #361 ObserverArt

Kasie Hunt is saying this new drunken Kavanaugh story is from 1998.

No longer a “kid.”

The accuser is remaining anonymous. But, the letter she wrote was seen by Senators that turned it over to the Judiciary committee.

It happened outside a DC bar.

The letter was written by the mother of a friend of the girl who was allegedly assaulted.

nbcnews.com

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:19:12pm

re: #400 Scottish Dragon

The joke is that he could have.

I get it. Honest.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:19:15pm

First Republican calls for FBI to investigate Kavanaugh

“What in the world difference would 10 days make? Why not wait 10 days, why not wait two weeks to find out the truth?”

thehill.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:19:44pm

re: #396 Scottish Dragon

Real Genius is a far, far better movie about nerds in college and that is probably because it had a women directing it.

One of the few college age 80s comedies that still stands up.

Fitting quote for Kavanaugh right now from that film:

“Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who said ‘…I drank what?’”

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:20:57pm

re: #404 Kilroy was here

First Republican calls for FBI to investigate Kavanaugh

thehill.com

Welp, someone is about to incur Trump’s wrath.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:21:45pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

I definitely do too especially their daughters. That’s why he should withdraw. He needs to take a hard look at himself and his life.

Quite right in principle, but what’s the actual likelihood of that happening?
Brett Kavanaugh is just another right-wing Republican operative, and has been for his whole adult career. Not only, it seems, is any sort of objective introspection about one’s life or ideology discouraged (in favor of self-righteous certainty) in that milieu, but any sort of questioning of the “givens” of the political stances required is usually a one-way ticket to obscurity.

If he doesn’t get onto the SC, it’s more likely Kavanaugh will end up with a sinecure at some Wingnut Welfare foundation, and spend the rest of his life penning whiny articles for RW rags griping about the raw deal he got…….

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:21:49pm

re: #350 Barefoot Grin

Not just preps and Ivies in the 1980s. Remember the shit young men on camera said to each other in the wake of the rape of a young high school girl in Steubenville, OH a few years ago.

IMO multiple accusations of this kind, almost certainly all credible except perhaps for a late-coming crank drawn to scandal (and/or a planted GOP ratfucking to discredit other accusers), are inevitable give that Kavanaugh was a privileged party animal in high school and college.

This is basically what privileged party animals do. It’s damn near the definition. It’s sobering to ask the question of what fraction of the truly powerful men in US society were exactly this kind of party animal.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:22:32pm

re: #367 KGxvi

The thing about those movies that you have to remember, is how they are written, who is the protagonist? Who are we, as the audience, supposed to want to see succeed? It’s sort of like the anti-hero stories of the last decade or two. Walter White was, by all reasonable analysis, a terrible person - but he was a great character, and the story was written in a way to make us sympathetic to him. It is often hard to take that step back and view a show outside the lens that the storyteller wants us to view it through.

It’s pretty easy for me because I never actually care much about authorial intent unless I am the author. I can’t authentically put myself inside their point of view and I find it inherently pretentious, like method acting, to really try. Which really isn’t the same thing as saying I can’t empathize with morally terrible characters as long as they’re presented in a realistically complex and compelling way, with depth. That’s the real problem with a lot of the ’80s examples, the characters were more like two dimensional caricatures, and within that simplistic framework the rape in RotN was being presented as both funny and as a legitimate romantic strategy. So I don’t have to give a shit about the author’s point of view there to know that it’s bad art.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:23:28pm

Well, when the going gets tough, Repuglicans go full on xenophobe

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:24:20pm

re: #391 Blind Frog Belly White

I respect the choice, I see where you’re coming from.

For me, though, there was a lot more to Breaking Bad than just making us root for drug dealers. It was a character study in ego and hubris, and Walter White watching everything he’d built crumble, leaving him broke, isolated, on the run, and dying alone, having to face the fact that he hadn’t done it for his family, he hadn’t been forced into it by circumstance - he did it because he enjoyed it and it made him feel powerful, and paid no attention to who it hurt.

The reading Bryan Cranston did of “Ozymandias” for the BB episode of the same name toward the end of the final season sums the series up perfectly; you may start out feeling bad for Walter in the first season, but by the final episode, he’s gotten everything bad he’s earned throughout the series.

Breaking Bad: Ozymandias

Frankly, I felt worse for Jessie by the end of the final episode, even though he was just as complicit as Walter.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:25:24pm

re: #409 goddamnedfrank

It’s pretty easy for me because I never actually care much about authorial intent unless I am the author. I can’t authentically put myself inside their point of view and I find it inherently pretentious, like method acting, to really try. Which really isn’t the same thing as saying I can’t empathize with morally terrible characters as long as they’re presented in a realistically complex and compelling way, with depth. That’s the real problem with a lot of the ’80s examples, the characters were more like two dimensional caricatures, and within that simplistic framework the rape in RotN was being presented as both funny and as a legitimate romantic strategy. So I don’t have to give a shit about the author’s point of view there to know that it’s bad art.

Yeah, there was, in retrospect, some terrible storytelling back then.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:25:36pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember Tom and Jerry? I watched it as a kid, but the first time I watched it with my kids, I quickly decided that the violence in there was pointless and they didn’t need to see it.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:27:47pm

re: #413 Belafon

Remember Tom and Jerry? I watched it as a kid, but the first time I watched it with my kids, I quickly decided that the violence in there was pointless and they didn’t need to see it.

Pepe Le Pew was cute and funny, and I didn’t even like watching that. Forcing himself on a cat.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:28:17pm

re: #396 Scottish Dragon

I love Real Genius.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:28:56pm

re: #388 Ace Rothstein

Did the $200K in credit card debt that just suddenly got paid off raise any eyebrows?

Not to Republicans. He’s a drunk and a gambler and they don’t care about that either.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:28:58pm

re: #409 goddamnedfrank

I think part of our moral development as a culture and as individuals within that culture is looking back on the things we thought were funny, or justified, or just ‘how things are’ when we were growing up, or even as young adults, and realizing that was NOT GOOD.

The discomfort I now feel around having enjoyed John Hughes films, or RotN, or Animal House back in the day, like the discomfort I feel about just how fall-on-the-floor-laughing funny Bill Cosby was in the early to mid-60s comedy routines, at least tells me I’ve grown.

It’s when you refuse to feel bad about it, because “that was then, it was okay back then” is refusal to acknowledge the need to grow..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:29:00pm

re: #413 Belafon

Remember Tom and Jerry? I watched it as a kid, but the first time I watched it with my kids, I quickly decided that the violence in there was pointless and they didn’t need to see it.

Hell the old Looney Tunes cartoons are pretty violent by todays standards. Plenty of guns around.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:29:26pm

re: #414 wrenchwench

Pepe Le Pew was cute and funny, and I didn’t even like watching that. Forcing himself on a cat.

I thought PLP was creepy af. Even as a kid.

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:30:17pm

re: #418 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell the old Looney Tunes cartoons are pretty violent by todays standards. Plenty of guns around.

And more than a few of them are racist as fuck…those don’t get shown anymore, for good reason.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:33:12pm

It’s hardly an original thought, and I have said it here before, but I still cannot fucking believe that this buffoon is President of the United States.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:36:27pm
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:37:41pm

re: #420 TedStriker

And a lot of them are racist as fuck…those don’t get shown anymore, for good reason.

Several of the old WW2 ones are absolutely verboten now.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:38:03pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:38:05pm

re: #413 Belafon

re: #418 Eclectic Cyborg

Weren’t a lot of the “classic” cartoons like that written more for adults than children? Like it wasn’t until the 50’s or 60’s that they were written more with children in mind? Basically when they were likely to be shown in movie theaters they were adult oriented, and once TV came about they were for kids?

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:38:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:38:53pm

re: #424 gocart mozart

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Jeezus.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:40:15pm

re: #396 Scottish Dragon

Real Genius is a far, far better movie about nerds in college and that is probably because it had a woman directing it.

One of the few college age 80s comedies that still stands up.

Required viewing periodically in my house.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:41:34pm

re: #416 Skip Intro

Not to Republicans. He’s a drunk and a gambler and they don’t care about that either.

I had a righteous Republican elsewhere tell me that paying off that debt and getting such an expensive home on a salary that wouldn’t justify it was completely plausible.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:42:21pm

re: #388 Ace Rothstein

Did the $200K in credit card debt that just suddenly got paid off raise any eyebrows?

Two threads ago it appears it may have been paid off by an organization that was fronted by Yanukovich, who hired Manafort, which got him in prison. It may have been Russian money that payed off ‘Naugh’s gambling debts.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:43:11pm

re: #426 MsJ

White men made up about 34% of voters in 2016, and only 2/3 of them voted for Trump. That’s literally playing to less than 25% of the electorate. Which seems like a… poor strategy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:43:20pm

re: #429 Barefoot Grin

I had a righteous Republican elsewhere tell me that paying off that debt and getting such an expensive home on a salary that wouldn’t justify it was completely plausible.

Did this Republican explain how he could afford it?

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:44:41pm

re: #197 jaunte

Trump doesn’t like NAFTA.

That’s why his trade representatives are working to update NAFTA and are not doing new deal with Mexico or Canada. They’re working towards updating NAFTA for 21st Century and changes since it was implemented.

Everyone involved says as much. Trump’s trade rep has gotten Mexico on board, and they’re looking to get Canada involved next, but it’s all on NAFTA - not some entirely new deal.

Trump’s lying to everyone about everything. He can’t stop lying.

If he did, he’d probably cease to exist. It’s as natural to him as breathing (probably moreso).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:44:42pm

The thing is our standards change as they should. I as a young teenager was juvenile about things like rape jokes and gay jokes. I wasn’t ever going to rape someone obviously or attack someone for being gay.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:45:08pm

re: #432 Hecuba’s daughter

Did this Republican explain how he could afford it?

The only reasonable explanation I can come up with is that they had an inheritance. But Kavanaugh’s mom is still alive, and it sounds like his wife did not come from a family likely to leave a very large inheritance (assuming her parents have shuffled off this mortal coil).

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:45:35pm
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Scout  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:46:33pm

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s one reason I refused to watch certain otherwise lauded series: I was not a fan of rooting for drug dealers (Breaking Bad) or serial killers (Dexter) or mobsters (The Sopranos). I don’t want to feel sympathy for people who are truly objectively evil.

I’m the same way. And I take a lot of derisive guff from a few of my co-workers as a result.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:46:48pm

re: #425 KGxvi

Weren’t a lot of the “classic” cartoons like that written more for adults than children? Like it wasn’t until the 50’s or 60’s that they were written more with children in mind? Basically when they were likely to be shown in movie theaters they were adult oriented, and once TV came about they were for kids?

Even many early cartoons were geared towards adults. Then, with enough to make kids and adults happy. Then cartoons became cheap, poorly drawn, kiddie only things of Saturday morning fame.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:46:59pm

re: #185 Belafon

You’ll be less drunk than you would be if you did it once per every time he lies.

I’ve only been drunk once after Trump was elected. I don’t know how long the binge will last, still going.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:47:42pm

re: #431 KGxvi

White men made up about 34% of voters in 2016, and only 2/3 of them voted for Trump. That’s literally playing to less than 25% of the electorate. Which seems like a… poor strategy.

Yes, and she forgot to add it’s older white men. I’ve seen no feeling of oppression or backlash from men my husband’s age or younger. More like, “If he did it, castrate the fucker.”

She forgets how many of those men:

1. Have daughters
2. Know a woman who has been sexually assaulted.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:47:47pm

I refuse to watch Matt Schlapp on Harball

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:48:35pm

re: #431 KGxvi

White men made up about 34% of voters in 2016, and only 2/3 of them voted for Trump. That’s literally playing to less than 25% of the electorate. Which seems like a… poor strategy.

Edit posting of white women who did support them.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:48:45pm

re: #433 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t like NAFTA.

That’s why his trade representatives are working to update NAFTA and are not doing new deal with Mexico or Canada. They’re working towards updating NAFTA for 21st Century and changes since it was implemented.

Everyone involved says as much. Trump’s trade rep has gotten Mexico on board, and they’re looking to get Canada involved next, but it’s all on NAFTA - not some entirely new deal.

Trump’s lying to everyone about everything. He can’t stop lying.

If he did, he’d probably cease to exist. It’s as natural to him as breathing (probably moreso).

I suspect on NAFTA negotiations, it’s more a matter of him not understanding details. He just thinks it’s a new deal and that’s all that matters for his tiny little brain. Everything else is the government running on autopilot.

Of course, it could be both… that he’s stupid and a liar.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:49:59pm

re: #425 KGxvi

Weren’t a lot of the “classic” cartoons like that written more for adults than children? Like it wasn’t until the 50’s or 60’s that they were written more with children in mind? Basically when they were likely to be shown in movie theaters they were adult oriented, and once TV came about they were for kids?

Yeah. The Bugs Bunny one that features Lauren Bacall from when she starred with Bogart in To Have and Have Not is NOT for kids….

Jesus, they draw her walking across a floor and the floor bursting into a flame as she goes by…and they even work in the “Put your lips together and blow” bit, OMG

Great cartoon and funny as hell, but not aimed at kids.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:50:06pm

re: #432 Hecuba’s daughter

Did this Republican explain how he could afford it?

You buy $200,000 in baseball tickets. They are a fungible asset. You offer to sell them to Sergei for $350,000 dollars. Sergei gives you $275,000, and gets the tickets (fungible) and $75,000 of clean cash.

This is Money Laundering 101. Sergei, who is on a US sanctions list paid $75,000 to get $275,000 in clean American Bongo Buckaroos. Sergei is happy. Brett is happy and has an additional 75 large for a payment on his house.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:51:10pm

re: #442 MsJ

Edit posting of white women who did support them.

White women were 37% of the electorate and 52% voted for him. So, you’re looking at 19-20% of the electorate.

Numbers via CNN exit poll.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:51:16pm

re: #432 Hecuba’s daughter

Did this Republican explain how he could afford it?

No. This is a sports-related site but he’s been around for ever as the “businessman who knows the real stuff the libs don’t” kind of guy. So it was in the tone of “you wouldn’t understand” when I asked.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:51:59pm

re: #443 KGxvi

I suspect on NAFTA negotiations, it’s more a matter of him not understanding details. He just thinks it’s a new deal and that’s all that matters for his tiny little brain. Everything else is the government running on autopilot.

Of course, it could be both… that he’s stupid and a liar.

Trump wants a NAFTA with a new name, and no Canada or Mexico.

stupid and a liar

yep.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:52:25pm

re: #429 Barefoot Grin

I had a righteous Republican elsewhere tell me that paying off that debt and getting such an expensive home on a salary that wouldn’t justify it was completely plausible.

I’d really like to know how he qualified for the loan on his house with that income. Unless it was before the Crash of 2008 there’s no way.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:52:31pm

re: #420 TedStriker

I can’t find a full episode of the Barber of Seville online for the kids to watch. I’ve wanted them to see that one and the Rabbit Season ones.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:52:35pm
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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:52:50pm

This fucking guy…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:52:58pm

re: #437 Scout

I’m the same way. And I take a lot of derisive guff from a few of my co-workers as a result.

I see things on FB where, on the one side, people proudly state that they’ve never seen even one episode of “Game of Thrones”, and on the other, people insisting that EVERYONE needs to see GoT.

I don’t see a lot of point to either. I watch it, and I enjoy it. Mrs. FBW doesn’t watch it, and probably wouldn’t enjoy it if she did. Neither of us insists the other like all the same stuff.

“The world is so full of a number of things that I think we should all be as happy as kings.”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:54:03pm

re: #452 Dr. Matt

This fucking guy…

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He’s not wrong, unfortunately.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:55:01pm

re: #426 MsJ

Well, more of us white men who find this behavior appalling are going to have to rise up as well.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:55:06pm

re: #441 Scottish Dragon

I refuse to watch Matt Schlapp on Harball

He just said this a unifying issue (supporting Judge Rapey) for the GOP.

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:55:52pm

re: #454 Barefoot Grin

He’s not wrong, unfortunately.

The question is what percentage was saying “fuck yeah” and what percentage was saying “fuck no”?

I’d actually love a poll that asked that question:

Did you watch the president’s press conference? If “yes”, which is closer to your opinion of the president’s statements: fuck yeah or fuck no?

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:56:08pm

re: #442 MsJ

Edit posting of white women who did support them.

Fucking swiping while watching Jeopardy. Let’s try again.

While alienating white women who supported them. It’s a really bad Strategy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:56:30pm

Aren’t there laws saying you can’t masturbate in public?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:56:34pm

re: #454 Barefoot Grin

He’s not wrong, unfortunately.

Bullshit. It was batshit crazy. Just because 40% of the population are fucking idiots, that doesn’t change reality,

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:57:10pm
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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:57:34pm

re: #458 MsJ

Fucking swiping while watching Jeopardy. Let’s try again.

While alienating white women who supported them. It’s a really bad Strategy.

Yeah, it’s an incredibly stupid strategy, so expect them to double down despite the pre-existing 10 point gender gap among white voters.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:57:48pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:58:35pm

re: #460 Dr. Matt

Bullshit. It was batshit crazy. Just because 40% of the population are fucking idiots, that doesn’t change reality,

But they ALL vote.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:58:42pm

re: #463 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah i don’t get that.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:58:57pm

re: #460 Dr. Matt

Bullshit. It was batshit crazy. Just because 40% of the population are fucking idiots, that doesn’t change reality,

I agree entirely. But I don’t think that’s what he means. I think he means that 40% love it because it’s batshit crazy.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2018 • 4:59:22pm

re: #461 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yeah, I have to admit hat I’m inclined to view any anonymous allegations at this stage with suspicion. Not because I’m dismissing the victims, but because the GOP have made rodent copulation into an art form and when you’re facing multiple credible accusers, throwing chaff out there makes total sense.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:01:10pm

Hello fellow lgf’ers and fellow intellectuals. I stepped out of my usual routine and I checked out cnn about the trump press conference.

1. Cnn has an op-ed by Scott Jennings saying the kavanaugh thing is the Democrats keeping control and that it is all politics and that the Democrats don’t care about sexual abuse allegations.

2. The comment Mr. Kurd by orange mcdouschebag, president, was mad win response to the reporter asking about Trump’s thoughts on the Kurds and Iraq.

3. Normalized everything trump did as not really a reason to be concerned.

My brain exploded writing those words. I am going back to my cave.

Carry on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:03:51pm

re: #467 Targetpractice

Yeah, I have to admit hat I’m inclined to view any anonymous allegations at this stage with suspicion. Not because I’m dismissing the victims, but because the GOP have made rodent copulation into an art form and when you’re facing multiple credible accusers, throwing chaff out there makes total sense.

Hell’s bells, didn’t we just see them fake a news story about Rod Rosenstein in an attempt to throw the media off the Kavanaugh case?

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:03:54pm

Xochitl Torres Small

When I saw her speak before a small group here, a guy in the audience asked her if she had experienced a # Me Too moment. I stayed seated, but in my mind, I jumped in his face and said

1) You don’t get to ask that.

2) You can see she’s female.

3) You have heard that she went to law school.

4) Given the info you already had, you are too stupid rude to be here, asking any questions.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:04:14pm

I had a good conversation with my closest brother in age today since we went to the gym together after our shifts ended. About how media especially right wing media uses an isolated image to paint an entire group as extreme to rage fuel viewers. He had read the same article about how FNC really warped that one guy’s father. It’s easy for me to see how RW propaganda works because I really saw it with my friend.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:06:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:09:32pm

re: #472 Scottish Dragon

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You dont’ get it do you Erick. Lauer, Weinstein, and Kavanaugh are all fucking creeps. And as bad and deplorable as their behavior was, they weren’t going to be ruling on law for the next 25 years. Sorry if it chaps your ass that your ideology championed a man like Kavanaugh for years who is a sexual predator but it’s true.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:10:41pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:11:22pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:11:30pm

HURR HURR MOAR JERBS THEN YEW EVER SAW BEFORE IN UR LIFE TIME!!!1!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:13:17pm

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR MOAR JERBS THEN YEW EVER SAW BEFORE IN UR LIFE TIME!!!1!!!

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We continue to see on paper growth but little wage growth. I don’t care if it makes me sound like a “Marxist” or not, worker wage growth should always be positively correlated with management wage growth. I don’t mind the bastards growing wealthy. I mind them growing more so while other people get left behind.

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:15:19pm

re: #417 Blind Frog Belly White

I think part of our moral development as a culture and as individuals within that culture is looking back on the things we thought were funny, or justified, or just ‘how things are’ when we were growing up, or even as young adults, and realizing that was NOT GOOD.

The discomfort I now feel around having enjoyed John Hughes films, or RotN, or Animal House back in the day, like the discomfort I feel about just how fall-on-the-floor-laughing funny Bill Cosby was in the early to mid-60s comedy routines, at least tells me I’ve grown.

It’s when you refuse to feel bad about it, because “that was then, it was okay back then” is refusal to acknowledge the need to grow..

There’s lots of movies and TV shows that have what we now consider to be gross depictions of racial and/or gender relations (among other things) and that are, at the very least, really cringey to watch today; however, I think it is possible to find and enjoy stuff that’s still good in some of those movies and TV shows and still be critical of the parts that aren’t good/that are cringey.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:15:20pm

re: #470 wrenchwench

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When I saw her speak before a small group here, a guy in the audience asked her if she had experienced a # Me Too moment. I stayed seated, but in my mind, I jumped in his face and said

1) You don’t get to ask that.

2) You can see she’s female.

3) You have heard that she went to law school.

4) Given the info you already had, you are too stupid rude to be here, asking any questions.

The worst thing is, I bet he thinks he was being a good ally.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:16:58pm

re: #479 Blind Frog Belly White

The worst thing is, I bet he thinks he was being a good ally.

Yep. Helping her establish her credentials as a good candidate.

Woman? Check.

Victim? Check.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:17:43pm

re: #477 HappyWarrior

We continue to see on paper growth but little wage growth. I don’t care if it makes me sound like a “Marxist” or not, worker wage growth should always be positively correlated with management wage growth. I don’t mind the bastards growing wealthy. I mind them growing more so while other people get left behind.

That’s the thing that kills me most. I get that managing a massive company is a tough job - hell yes, they should get paid more than I do. But not ten times more, no way.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:18:01pm

re: #478 TedStriker

There’s lots of movies and TV shows that have what we now consider to be gross depictions of racial and/or gender relations (among other things), but are now, at the very least, really cringey to watch today; however, I think it is possible to find and enjoy stuff that’s still good in some of those movies and TV shows and still be critical of the parts that aren’t good/that are cringey.

It is amazing to think things that were once pretty ground taking in their presentation are now kind of border on racially insensitive or even outright racist. I think of someone like Al Jolson who to his credit did condemn Jim Crow, lynching, and supported African-American entertainers downing black face. I guess that’s why I get upset when CSA fans try to act like the CSA wasn’t “racist.” I’ve told you all. I have no allusions about my grandfather’s grandfather who fought for the Union. I appreciate what he did but I doubt he was an abolitionist or especially a champion of equality between the races. BE great if he was but the odds are against it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:18:45pm

re: #481 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the thing that kills me most. I get that managing a massive company is a tough job - hell yes, they should get paid more than I do. But not ten times more, no way.

In the 50’s, the times they romanticize, the Boss was a neighbor. At least in White America.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:18:59pm

re: #480 wrenchwench

Yep. Helping her establish her credentials as a good candidate.

Woman? Check.

Victim? Check.

I read an essay on how to be a good ally, and one of the things that struck me is “I don’t owe you my story.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:19:25pm

re: #481 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the thing that kills me most. I get that managing a massive company is a tough job - hell yes, they should get paid more than I do. But not ten times more, no way.

CEOs get paid 100 or 1000 times more than you, if you are just a regular employee.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:20:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:21:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:21:13pm

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

CEOs get paid 100 or 1000 times more than you, if you are just a regular employee.

Yeah. For me, 10 times is not a problem. 400 times (current average, I believe) - THAT’S a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:21:20pm

The thing that gets me though is the constant shitting on people who want better wages and working conditions. We celebrate the CEO who gives himself a raise but we look down on the man beneath him trying to get better wages to help make ends meat so his kids can attend college, get the health care they need, or find a better place to live. I don’t mind and accept that automation has changed economies but we never see the human cost of that. Now I’m glad to see mines closing but I still want to as did HRC to retrain the miners.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:21:45pm

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

CEOs get paid 100 or 1000 times more than you, if you are just a regular employee.

And I don’t care what wingnut propaganda says, they do NOT work that much harder than you.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:22:07pm

re: #484 Blind Frog Belly White

I read an essay on how to be a good ally, and one of the things that struck me is “I don’t owe you my story.”

Many people completely miss the aspect of # Me Too that’s all about women being uncomfortable talking about these things.

In public.

With strangers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:22:37pm

re: #488 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. For me, 10 times is not a problem. 400 times (current average, I believe) - THAT’S a problem.

Same brother I mentioned above was talking about how we’re 4% of the population taking up 25% of the resources. Money is much the same with a select few controllling much of the wealth.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:22:38pm

Hah.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:22:53pm

re: #486 Charles Johnson

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The only way that this could be any more surreal is if his answers were given in interpretive dance routines.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:24:42pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:25:19pm

Again, I really don’t want to see Michael Avenatti run for president or anything like that. But I really do like the way he comes back at people like Junior and I wish more Democrats had some of the same fire.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:26:05pm

re: #493 Charles Johnson

Hah.

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Only in Wingnut world is it more an indictment on your character to represent a porn star than to be the man who slept with said porn star while a new husband. Don Jr really should shut the fuck up on this one but then again he learned everything about how to treat women from his father.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:26:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:26:48pm

re: #496 Charles Johnson

Again, I really don’t want to see Michael Avenatti run for president or anything like that. But I really do like the way he comes back at people like Junior and I wish more Democrats had some of the same fire.

I really wish they would too. Junior more than any Trump kind loves sticking his ugly face into the political discussion. Hit back at the little shit head.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:28:26pm

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:28:31pm

re: #461 Blind Frog Belly White

Republicans are so dirty. They’re the purveyors of fake news.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:28:48pm

re: #496 Charles Johnson

Again, I really don’t want to see Michael Avenatti run for president or anything like that. But I really do like the way he comes back at people like Junior and I wish more Democrats had some of the same fire.

Sadly, “When they go low, we go high” didn’t work out so well.

What I like about Avenatti is that he’s smart, articulate, and makes a decent point. By contrast, Trump is stupid, incoherent, and blathering, and Don Jr. is worse in every particular.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:29:39pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

People who work minimum wage jobs do the most back-breaking labor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:29:52pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

The answer would be “Because The Market says so”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:31:04pm

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

People who work minimum wage jobs do the most back-breaking labor.

Exactly. I’m tired of burger flippers and people like that being looked down on. Mother fucker, they’re why you’re able to get the food you like stuffing your fat face with. Again gets back to what my brother and I were talking about how the so called shit hole countries Trump spoke of are why we have the life we do.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:31:20pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

I have heard people speak in terms of a person’s ‘worth as a human being’. Some were joking around, believing in equal worth across the board. Some were serious.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:31:28pm

re: #504 Blind Frog Belly White

The answer would be “Because The Market says so”.

Yeah and that’s crap.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:32:13pm

re: #506 wrenchwench

I have heard people speak in terms of a person’s ‘worth as a human being’. Some were joking around, believing in equal worth across the board. Some were serious.

I believe in the radical notion that someone’s worth as a human being isn’t in their annual paycheck. :) Just joshing, I knwo you do and it’s not really that absurd.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:33:12pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

It’s the negotiation by and among a lot of other people with a vested interest in keeping the compensation system working that way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:33:17pm

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

People who work minimum wage jobs do the most back-breaking labor.

There was a time when we as a society celebrated the worker and viewed the businessman skeptically at best. Look at the popular films of the 30s and 40s - the rich were either idle nincompoops, or scheming protofascists. Occasionally the rich fatcat is a good guy (think Claudette Colbert’s father in “It Happened One Night”), but a lot of them were much more sinister (think the rich guy who backs Gary Cooper in “Meet John Doe”)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:34:23pm

re: #495 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:35:13pm

re: #510 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a time when we as a society celebrated the worker and viewed the businessman skeptically at best. Look at the popular films of the 30s and 40s - the rich were either idle nincompoops, or scheming protofascists. Occasionally the rich fatcat is a good guy (think Claudette Colbert’s father in “It Happened One Night”), but a lot of them were much more sinister (think the rich guy who backs Gary Cooper in “Meet John Doe”)

Hell Frank Capra and Jimmy Stewart were about as far as liberal as you could get and they made It’s a Wonderful Life. I don’t mind respecting the businessman. I do mind treating him like he’s a superman and the workers who actually help him generate his wealth are morons and “losers” especially if they demand something a bit better. I’m proud of my family’s history in the labor movement.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:38:05pm

re: #510 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a time when we as a society celebrated the worker and viewed the businessman skeptically at best. Look at the popular films of the 30s and 40s - the rich were either idle nincompoops, or scheming protofascists. Occasionally the rich fatcat is a good guy (think Claudette Colbert’s father in “It Happened One Night”), but a lot of them were much more sinister (think the rich guy who backs Gary Cooper in “Meet John Doe”)

Can anyone say “Labor Day”? There’s a whole damn federal holiday dedicated to the everyday workingman.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:38:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:38:35pm

All these memes I see saying “Thank you capitalism for the life I have.” And it’s okay, two things. The life you have is brought to you on the backs of people who make but a fraction of what you do. And yes I own an iPhone and a lot of other goods that are luxury so maybe I am a ltitle hypocritical but to be in total denial about ti. To be in total denial that the standard of living you enjoy now didn’t come in good part from people you’d call “commies” or “socialists” and to just blindly worship Capitalism is absurd. I don’t necessarily always believe “Behind every great fortune is a great crime” but I do believe that if you’re living well, there’s about 1000 people who aren’t that allows you do so.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:38:42pm

Night Lizards. Time to cook dinner and detox with a nice bath bomb.

Ladies {{ :-) }}

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:39:08pm

Thread. Not suggested for everyone. Some will enjoy it, some won’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:39:52pm

re: #507 HappyWarrior

Yeah and that’s crap.

Well, yeah. CEOs serve on Boards of Directors. BoDs set executive salary. That means the people who decide what the CEO makes are the people most inclined to believe the CEO is extra-super valuable.

It doesn’t even require self-dealing or corruption. They’re just naturally biased.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:40:02pm

re: #513 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can anyone say “Labor Day”? There’s a whole damn federal holiday dedicated to the everyday workingman.

And Trump’s Secretary of the Army decided to make it about the military which i found really disrespectful. No direspect to the people who serve our military but they do have their days that we celebrate them. Labor day is where I celebrate my Grandpa as a brickmason who worked his ass off to lay a foundation where my mom and her brother became the first two in the family to attend college and Vets day is where I remember his service in Korea.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:40:25pm

re: #499 HappyWarrior

I really wish they would too. Junior more than any Trump kind loves sticking his ugly face into the political discussion. Hit back at the little shit head.

Junior’s stuff is all “me too”

Has he really ever had any kind of own thought?

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:40:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:40:53pm

re: #518 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah. CEOs serve on Boards of Directors. BoDs set executive salary. That means the people who decide what the CEO makes are the people most inclined to believe the CEO is extra-super valuable.

It doesn’t even require self-dealing or corruption. They’re just naturally biased.

Yep, and god do not get me started on people oho think charities should just be trusted with everything. Government is imperfect I concede but you have to be blind not to see the corruption that goes on within charities.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:41:07pm

When it comes to Trump, there are two types of people in America these days:

1) People who think the man is a dangerous, narcissitic, blithering orange shit weasel.

And

2) Those who are wrong.

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:41:13pm

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but….

Nerds can be sympathetic heroes without being rapey. It wasn’t portrayed as “These poor guys were pushed to this!”, but rather “Snotty bitch deserved it!”

The more I think about it, the more parallels I see with the Incels of today - these women were nasty and hurtful to the protagonists, and end up being tricked into sex with them one way or another. That’s nonconsensual sex, no matter how you slice it. And then they always try to make it okay by having the woman say how good it was, or that she now likes the guy more.

re: #396 Scottish Dragon

Real Genius is a far, far better movie about nerds in college and that is probably because it had a women directing it.

One of the few college age 80s comedies that still stands up.

re: #405 Targetpractice

Fitting quote for Kavanaugh right now from that film:

“Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who said ‘…I drank what?’”

re: #428 Belafon

Required viewing periodically in my house.

While I have somewhat of a (more critical and jaundiced these days) sweet spot for RotN, Real Genius is, far and away, my more favored movie of the two because it’s just so 80s cheese, it’s good. Kilmer’s Knight vs. Atherton’s Hathaway…yes, please!

Little bit of trivia: actress Michelle Meyrink was in lead roles in both movies (as Jordan in RG and as Judy in RotN).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:41:17pm

re: #520 ObserverArt

Junior’s stuff is all “me too”

Has he really ever had any kind of own thought?

Well he did go with an older woman. His Dad would never have done that. :)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:42:01pm

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Right?! Both my grandfathers were handymen, jacks-of-all-trades; they supported an entire rural Indiana town on their backs. I have some of their tools in my toolbox out in the garage. Well-worn and greasy, but they never fail. Labor Day is the day to celebrate what they did at home; Veteran’s Day is the day to celebrate what they did (well, at least one of them) when they were abroad.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:42:37pm

re: #520 ObserverArt

Junior’s stuff is all “me too”

Has he really ever had any kind of own thought?

He had his soul sucked out of him a long time ago.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:43:21pm

re: #522 HappyWarrior

Yep, and god do not get me started on people oho think charities should just be trusted with everything. Government is imperfect I concede but you have to be blind not to see the corruption that goes on within charities.

But even leaving corruption to the side, the problem with charities is that they’re unreliable. Their donations dry up when they’re needed most, during economic downturns.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:43:49pm

re: #526 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Right?! Both my grandparents were handymen, jacks-of-all-trades; they supported an entire rural Indiana town on their backs. I have some of their tools in my toolbox out in the garage. Well-worn and greasy, but they never fail. Labor Day is the day to celebrate what they did at home; Veteran’s Day is the day to celebrate what they did (well, at least one of them) when they were abroad.

Exactly. I just found it really disrespectful. But yeah my forefathers were miners, tenant farmers, steel workers, iron pudlers, drivers(of horses), blacksmiths, etc. Some of them in their youth responded to their country’s call. We don’t need to make everything into a worship the military moment.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:44:06pm

re: #528 Blind Frog Belly White

But even leaving corruption to the side, the problem with charities is that they’re unreliable. Their donations dry up when they’re needed most, during economic downturns.

A damn good point that I never erally thought about.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:44:32pm

re: #527 jaunte

He had his soul sucked out of him a long time ago.

Objection, assumes he had a soul.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:45:00pm

re: #531 HappyWarrior

Objection, assumes he had a soul.

Sustained.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:45:18pm

re: #527 jaunte

He had his soul sucked out of him a long time ago.

He never had a soul.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:46:32pm

re: #530 HappyWarrior

A damn good point that I never erally thought about.

I’d also add that the folks who say that having government do the work of providing benefits takes away the opportunity for Christians to do good works are seeing the poor not as people, but rather like NPCs in a game - they get points for interacting with them properly.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:46:58pm

re: #531 HappyWarrior

Hah! I mean, growing up within the gravitational pull of Trump would have eliminated any incentive/opportunity to develop an independent spirit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:47:37pm

re: #535 jaunte

Hah! I mean, growing up within the gravitational pull of Trump would have eliminated any incentive/opportunity to develop an independent spirit.

Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole!

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:47:44pm

I feel sorry for the infant Don Jr., but not for the current husk.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:47:46pm

re: #534 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d also add that the folks who say that having government do the work of providing benefits takes away the opportunity for Christians to do good works are seeing the poor not as people, but rather like NPCs in a game - they get points for interacting with them properly.

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:48:25pm

re: #535 jaunte

Hah! I mean, growing up within the gravitational pull of Trump would have eliminated any incentive/opportunity to develop an independent spirit.

Withdrawn. Yeah I almost feel bad for him knowing that asshole is his father but he had free will and plenty of time to become a good person.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:48:49pm

Looks like Junior has no soul. Passed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:49:01pm

re: #537 jaunte

I feel sorry for the infant Don Jr., but not for the current husk.

I do too. I’m just using law lingo since I had a very busy day at the firm today.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:50:22pm

re: #536 Blind Frog Belly White

Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole!

Shouldn’t that be: Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole Junior!?

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:50:47pm

Where’s that Texas graphic.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:51:25pm

re: #542 ObserverArt

Shouldn’t that be: Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole Junior!?

His Assholeness the Turd is honored to grace you with his presence. //

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:51:56pm

re: #543 MsJ

Where’s that Texas graphic.

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I imagine this same guy was just petrified of transgendered people in the bathroom wasn’t he?

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:52:23pm

re: #543 MsJ

Where’s that Texas graphic.

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Why, oh why, do these idiots think women want to see dick pics?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:52:59pm

re: #542 ObserverArt

Shouldn’t that be: Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole, son of Rich Asshole Junior!?

I know Fred was a Rich Asshole, but I don’t know if he was born to richness and assholery, or acquired it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:53:13pm

re: #546 calochortus

Why, oh why, do these idiots think women want to see dick pics?

Your guess is as good as mine. I’d feel wrong sending a woman a topless photo of me posing. A dick pic? Never.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:54:38pm

re: #546 calochortus

Why, oh why, do these idiots think women want to see dick pics?

Because if a woman sent a man a picture of her genitalia, that’s hawt. Obviously women have to function the same way. Seriously, some men are completely unable to comprehend the idea that men and women are physically, mentally, and sexually different.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:54:45pm

re: #548 HappyWarrior

Your guess is as good as mine. I’d feel wrong sending a woman a topless photo of me posing. A dick pic? Never.

There’s your problem-you’re a nice guy.

For what it’s worth, every time I ask a guy in my family why guys do some stupid thing, the answer I get is “I dunno.”

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Dizzy  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:55:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:55:23pm

re: #546 calochortus

Why, oh why, do these idiots think women want to see dick pics?

In the forlorn hope that somewhere out there is a woman who doesn’t find the male member as funny-looking as we all realize they are?
//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:56:02pm

re: #550 calochortus

There’s your problem-you’re a nice guy.

For what it’s worth, every time I ask a guy in my family why guys do some stupid thing, the answer I get is “I dunno.”

Ha, thanks. Not really about being nice. It’s just a matter of “Who the fuck wants to see that?”. I mean I can get sleazy sounding flirting almost but dick pics to me are a really fucked way of trying to get someone to like you.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:56:13pm


Remainder of thread enclosed

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:57:35pm

re: #553 HappyWarrior

Ha, thanks. Not really about being nice. It’s just a matter of “Who the fuck wants to see that?”. I mean I can get sleazy sounding flirting almost but dick pics to me are a really fucked way of trying to get someone to like you.

It’s great way to announce “I have no idea what you might want to see, so here’s something I like.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:57:48pm

re: #546 calochortus

Why, oh why, do these idiots think women want to see dick pics?

Many men make the mistake of assuming women are highly turned on by visual rather than emotional stimulus. Men and women are wired very different when it comes to sex.

Also probably from watching way too much Porn and thinking most real women work the same way porn stars do.

I say this as a man who fell into this same stupid trap when I was younger.

Also, fun fact: Most porn is made by men for men and that includes straight, gay and lesbian categories.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:57:49pm

re: #551 Dizzy

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Even when I was 11, 20 years ago, it was obvious to me that the Republicans crying about how Bill was why their kids had found out about sex were full of shit. Hastert btw IMO turned out to be the most despicable of them all and they brought him after Newt and Livingston who were just mere hypocritical douchewads were forced out.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:58:35pm

Anything to avoid getting reBeto’d.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:58:37pm

re: #555 jaunte

It’s great way to announce “I have no idea what you might want to see, so here’s something I like.”

I’m so glad I didn’t have a mouthful of liquid when I read that. All the updings for you.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:58:41pm

re: #555 jaunte

It’s great way to announce “I have no idea what you might want to see, so here’s something I like.”

I’d show one of my tats if that’s what I was trying to do lol. A lot of people are surprised that I have four of them because I’m a pretty quiet, low key guy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:59:03pm

re: #558 wrenchwench

Anything to avoid getting reBeto’d.

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Ted sees the writing on the wall.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:59:15pm

re: #547 Blind Frog Belly White

I know Fred was a Rich Asshole, but I don’t know if he was born to richness and assholery, or acquired it.

I was going with the old thinking that third generation family businesses are always a drop off and many times a failure.

Not sure how true it really is.

But I needed that third family member for it to work.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 26, 2018 • 5:59:39pm

re: #554 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Is it just me, or do these lists remind you of that song where the refrain is…

They were all in love with dying they were drinkin’ from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:00:24pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:00:36pm

re: #511 Charles Johnson

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Dizzy  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:01:02pm

re: #557 HappyWarrior

Even when I was 11, 20 years ago, it was obvious to me that the Republicans crying about how Bill was why their kids had found out about sex were full of shit. Hastert btw IMO turned out to be the most despicable of them all and they brought him after Newt and Livingston who were just mere hypocritical douchewads were forced out.

I must admit, to this day, I cannot fathom the depravity and hypocrisy of the Republicans. I mean, I new they were scumbags, but JESUS H. TAP-DANCING CHRIST!

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:02:28pm

re: #558 wrenchwench

Anything to avoid getting reBeto’d.

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CNN was talking at lunch about Cruz being caught looking at a Beto picture. One of the replies was “Swipe left, or swipe right?”

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gwangung  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:02:32pm

re: #528 Blind Frog Belly White

But even leaving corruption to the side, the problem with charities is that they’re unreliable. Their donations dry up when they’re needed most, during economic downturns.

Heh. Majority of social service foundations rely on….government grants.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:02:38pm

re: #566 Dizzy

I must admit, to this day, I cannot fathom the depravity and hypocrisy of the Republicans. I mean, I new they were scumbags, but JESUS H. TAP-DANCING CHRIST!

Yeah I’ve never liked the GOP. I remember when I was even younger visiting my grandparents and she had CSPAN on a lot and we did not like the Republicans. Haha she still doesn’t. I just helped her get her absentee ballot today. As far as I know, she’s voted Democratic every Presidential election since Truman beating Dewey. She didn’t like Obama at first but eh grew bigly on her.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:03:17pm

re: #475 Single-handed sailor

Nancy Pelosi

@TeamPelosi

US House candidate, CA-12
WE REPEAT: all of this is happening while…

-Thousands of helpless children are being caged;

-Republicans are trying to steal $2 trillion from Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security;

-The already-rich are further rigging the system in their favor.

Register to vote. #KavaNO

I called my senators about those first two issues today, along with giving them a big thanks for fighting so well against Kavanaugh. My senators are Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith so it always feels like preaching to the choir when I call them about stuff, but they appreciate the calls.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:05:35pm

re: #567 Belafon

CNN was talking at lunch about Cruz being caught looking at a Beto picture. One of the replies was “Swipe left, or swipe right?”

My flip phone would like to know what that means.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:06:03pm

re: #570 stpaulbear

I called my senators about those first two issues today, along with giving them a big thanks for fighting so well against Kavanaugh. My senators are Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith so it always feels like preaching to the choir when I call them about stuff, but they appreciate the calls.

It’s a shame that Franken is gone but I trust that Tina Smith is doing a great job and will likely run for her own term?

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:06:32pm

Yes, that is Putin’s official Twitter account

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:06:37pm

re: #571 wrenchwench

My flip phone would like to know what that means.

Tinder, you swipe left for no and right for yes.

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Chrysicat  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:06:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:07:05pm

re: #563 Blind Frog Belly White

Is it just me, or do these lists remind you of that song where the refrain is…

They were all in love with dying they were drinkin’ from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

Butthole Surfers - Pepper

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dangerman  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:07:29pm

re: #477 HappyWarrior

We continue to see on paper growth but little wage growth. I don’t care if it makes me sound like a “Marxist” or not, worker wage growth should always be positively correlated with management wage growth. I don’t mind the bastards growing wealthy. I mind them growing more so while other people get left behind.

Wage growth should be tied to GDP growth

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:07:31pm

re: #573 gocart mozart

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Hey Lindsay, she made the allegation when you guys were still bitching about the Obama. I feel sorry for you. You used to be okay and now Joe Walsh is a better man than you are when it comes to standing up to Trumpism.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:08:32pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:09:59pm

Hanoi Jane shares “radical kinship” with Moscow Don.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:10:07pm

re: #577 dangerman

Wage growth should be tied to GDP growth

For a moment I misread that as “GOP growth” and I was like ummmm…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:10:08pm

re: #572 HappyWarrior

It’s a shame that Franken is gone but I trust that Tina Smith is doing a great job and will likely run for her own term?

It seems that way. I haven’t heard anything bad about her yet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:10:18pm

re: #579 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Goddamn. A lot of my woman cousins are around the same age as these women who grew up i nthe same area. Granted public school kids and more middle class then the elites at Holton and Georgetown Prep but as we knwo this stuff transcends race, class, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:11:16pm

re: #580 DodgerFan1988

Hanoi Jane shares “radical kinship” with Moscow Don.

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Jane, a lot of men and women are abused by their parents. A lot of them become great people. Sorry, I don’t have empathy for him. It sucks his father was an asshole to him but that doesn’t excuse anything.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:13:34pm

re: #580 DodgerFan1988

Ummm… okay Jane, that is a nice bit of armchair psychology.

But that is a luxury we cannot afford.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:15:21pm

re: #560 HappyWarrior

I’d show one of my tats if that’s what I was trying to do lol. A lot of people are surprised that I have four of them because I’m a pretty quiet, low key guy.

There are lots of people who are shocked that I got a tattoo for my 50th. I don’t look like a tattoo person…and I’m not, but I wanted one and one only.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:15:35pm

Why is there a weird sub-sect of the left that looks to justify or rationalize Trump? Granted I haven’t seen it yet guys and I’m only going by what my boss told me but he said that Michael Moore’s new documentary almost glamorized Trump. My boss btw is a staunch liberal Democrat and chair of a local Dems group.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:16:25pm

re: #586 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

There are lots of people who are shocked that I got a tattoo for my 50th. I don’t look like a tattoo person…and I’m not, but I wanted one and one only.

My cousin just turned 50 and has several lol. She’s the one who really pushed me to get my first then my second then my lol you get the picture.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:16:31pm

re: #572 HappyWarrior

It’s a shame that Franken is gone but I trust that Tina Smith is doing a great job and will likely run for her own term?

Tina is good. They’re both up for election this year because Tina was appointed. Her term will only be two or four years though so that MN can get the senate elections back to the regular schedule.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:16:58pm

I don’t doubt Trump had a shitty childhood probably but I don’t think it’s right to use that to treat him like a victim either.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:17:22pm

re: #584 HappyWarrior

Jane, a lot of men and women are abused by their parents. A lot of them become great people. Sorry, I don’t have empathy for him. It sucks his father was an asshole to him but that doesn’t excuse anything.

Brock Kavanaw was an altar boy. He could have been abused too. So he can blame the Church for his transgressions, but at some point he needs to take ownership of his own.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:18:07pm

re: #591 wrenchwench

Brock Kavanaw was an altar boy. He could have been abused too. So he can blame the Church for his transgressions, but at some point he needs to take ownership of his own.

But the GOP is the Party of “Fuck Personal Responsibility”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:18:19pm

re: #589 stpaulbear

Tina is good. They’re both up for election this year because Tina was appointed. Her term will only be two or four years though so that MN can get the senate elections back to the regular schedule.

Are their campaigns coordinating together? The awesome thing Kaine is doing here in VA is coordinating with the Congressional Dem candidates and incumbent. When I was out on the field the other day, I saw plenty of Kaine-Wexton signs in yards, way cool! You’re not seeing that with Stewart and Comstock which is part of why they’re both going ot lose.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:18:54pm

re: #591 wrenchwench

Brock Kavanaw was an altar boy. He could have been abused too. So he can blame the Church for his transgressions, but at some point he needs to take ownership of his own.

You know, I’ve been thinking about that and I defintiely think his buddy Judge was. I don’t know about him but I definitely think Judge was.

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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:20:04pm

re: #590 HappyWarrior

I don’t doubt Trump had a shitty childhood probably but I don’t think it’s right to use that to treat him like a victim either.

There’s a difference between an explanation and an excuse. You can feel sorry for someone who didn’t grow up in a functional family, but they still don’t get to do whatever they’d like with impunity.

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fern01  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:21:12pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Reward hard work? Fine. But the question I have is what determines someone’s worth. What makes someone’s work worth 100 million versus minimum wage?

Nothing - there is nothing that makes someone’s job worth 100 million - and those that think they earn it - support Kavanaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:22:18pm

re: #596 fern01

Nothing - there is nothing that makes someone’s job worth 100 million - and those that think they earn it - support Kavanaugh.

An old aquaintence posted something to the effect of “I don’t get why there are billionaires” and a lot of people got really snippy about it but yes.

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:23:57pm

re: #577 dangerman

Wage growth should be tied to GDP growth

How about a program where a company that meets that growth rate gets the benefit of no additional tax and maybe a cut in taxes if they surpass it. Companies that don’t meet it pay a tax on percentage they fail to match.

The money from the tax can go to social services to help cover the shortfall in folks wages. They get to make up by qualifying for those programs.

And maybe a minimum wage should also have some of the same in it too. That can vary to a company’s value and be tied to a company’s growth. Also adds incentive. A base minimum wage that a local small business would pay. A larger and more valuable business would have a higher minimum.

Just crazy thinking while listening a bit to Rachel. I am no economist.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:27:20pm

re: #580 DodgerFan1988

She’s been doing shrooms again, hasn’t she?

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:27:30pm

re: #598 ObserverArt

I’m afraid that any formula is going to be a formula for serious inflation.

The detrimental effects of the Republican tax-gift to their rich buddies has yet to be felt.

The ballooning national debt will have to be addressed, and as usual it will be addressed by paying it back with much cheaper money.

Which means us retirees are going to be screwed royally, except for the few who are multi-millionaires.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:28:21pm

re: #599 Single-handed sailor

She’s been doing shrooms again, hasn’t she?

TBH I think just misplaced sympathy. If I recall, Jane and Peter had a distant relationship with Henry.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:28:58pm

One of six

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:29:59pm

My first and only tattoo.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:30:11pm

re: #586 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

There are lots of people who are shocked that I got a tattoo for my 50th. I don’t look like a tattoo person…and I’m not, but I wanted one and one only.

This is my next tattoo. Ankle or calf, I can’t decide.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:30:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:30:50pm

re: #603 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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That’s beautiful. You’re friends with me on FB so you’ve probably seen my work especially my latest.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:31:14pm

re: #604 MsJ

This is my next tattoo. Ankle or calf, I can’t decide.

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Gut here but ankle.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:31:36pm

re: #606 HappyWarrior

No, I’m going to have to go look!

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dangerman  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:31:39pm

re: #581 Eclectic Cyborg

For a moment I misread that as “GOP growth” and I was like ummmm…

Actually I meant correlated to not tied to as in result of

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:32:29pm

re: #605 jaunte

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It’s just such an absurd argument. TBH I don’t think Kavanaugh deserved his previous reputation they were giving him but that’s beside the point here, the point is sexual abusers aren’t going to be wearing a shirt that says “Shitty person, keep me way from your loved ones.”

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:33:16pm

The sadly ironic thing about all those old white folk who are Trumpers is that the Republican tax gimmick will hurt them the most.

Retired folk are the most vulnerable to inflation.

If someone is on a fixed pension then they are locked into a financial future from which they probably won’t be able to escape.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:33:26pm

re: #610 HappyWarrior

And “why didn’t they report” when there are a million stories around demonstrating why not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:34:18pm

re: #612 jaunte

And “why didn’t they report” when there are a million stories around demonstrating why not.

Ford has gotten death threats ffs and people still wonder. Goddamn.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:34:49pm

We need to be reminded - civilizations come, civilizations go.

New article today on National Geographic:

Lost Civilization in the Congo Basin by Mike Fay and Richard Oslisly

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:35:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:36:07pm

re: #615 gocart mozart

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I hope someone lets him know that the Presidency isn’t for him but he can keep his current job as the guy renting space in Trump’s head.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:37:12pm

re: #606 HappyWarrior

Just looked. I couldn’t see them all clearly, but I see you have a bunch!

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:38:26pm

re: #600 freetoken

I’m afraid that any formula is going to be a formula for serious inflation.

The detrimental effects of the Republican tax-gift to their rich buddies has yet to be felt.

The ballooning national debt will have to be addressed, and as usual it will be addressed by paying it back with much cheaper money.

Which means us retirees are going to be screwed royally, except for the few who are multi-millionaires.

I was just thinking ideally. A goal. I’m not even sure of implementation.

You would have to inch your way into any change.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:40:16pm

re: #617 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Just looked. I couldn’t see them all clearly, but I see you have a bunch!

Yep! Four. I never thought I’d be that guy but I love it. I love talking to the artists and the whole process. Look up the Carpatho-Rusyns if you’re curious about the latest (the one with the bear). The ship is also a very personal one to me since it’s based on an image of the shpi that brought my father’s paternal grandfather to the US as a boy.

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fern01  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:43:16pm

Rachel - Sen Collins is concerned

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:43:51pm

Guys FYI.

First one is the Irish themed one and last is the Bear. Rusyn not to be confused with Russian but even if I were part Russian, I wouldn’t let an asshole like Vlad get in my way.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:44:37pm

re: #618 ObserverArt

There is no permanent solution.

However, a hundred years ago some pretty smart people figured out that the richer a person is the more tax they ought to pay .

That idea has been attacked for four decades now by an atavistic Republican party, since it was taken over by the creationists and confederate sympathisers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:45:03pm

re: #620 fern01

Rachel - Sen Collins is concerned

Ahhh the default state of the “moderate” GOPer.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:46:08pm

re: #613 HappyWarrior

Ford has gotten death threats ffs and people still wonder. Goddamn.

The SAME people.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:46:45pm

That press conference today.

What. The. FUCK.

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fern01  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:47:02pm

re: #616 HappyWarrior

I hope someone lets him know that the Presidency isn’t for him but he can keep his current job as the guy renting space in Trump’s head.

Avenatti would be 5000% better than trump and if he wants to run in the primaries - good luck to him. The attacks by republicans would run down his back and out the door - he is an open book as regards to who he is and what he does.

I doubt he would win a dem primary - but would make for some interesting debates - and at the end of the day - he would 100% support the winner, unlike some others who want to be President.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:47:36pm

re: #622 freetoken

There is no permanent solution.

However, a hundred years ago some pretty smart people figured out that the richer a person is the more tax they ought to pay .

That idea has been attacked for four decades now by an atavistic Republican party, since it was taken over by the creationists and confederate sympathisers.

I’m one of the younger ones here but when y’all were growing up was the now fairly mainstream GOP/right wing idea about doing away with the direct election of senators common? Granted I didn’t know until high school that Senators had once been elected by legislatures but still I thought the idea of “Yeah the people should be electing their senators” was something that was pretty much universally agreed on. It’s obvious to me now why Republicans want the legislatures to do it because they know gerrymandering favors them if that were to ever happen. Much the same way there was talk after Obama won to divide EVs by district which would have meant despite the fact that Obama won here in VA that Romney would have gotten more ECs.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:48:03pm

re: #621 HappyWarrior

Guys FYI.

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First one is the Irish themed one and last is the Bear. Rusyn not to be confused with Russian but even if I were part Russian, I wouldn’t let an asshole like Vlad get in my way.

You’re a terrifying tattooed gangster.
I like the textured colors on the stripes on the shield.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:48:08pm

re: #626 fern01

Avenatti would be 5000% better than trump and if he wants to run in the primaries - good luck to him. The attacks by republicans would run down his back and out the door - he is an open book as regards to who he is and what he does.

I doubt he would win a dem primary - but would make for some interesting debates - and at the end of the day - he would 100% support the winner, unlike some others who want to be President.

True, true.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:49:27pm

Hey, on the bright side, new season of South Park starts tonight.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:49:54pm

I was just channel surfing and I read the info on the TV show Catfish. It has 80 episodes. WTF?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:52:25pm

re: #630 teleskiguy

Hey, on the bright side, new season of South Park starts tonight.

I’m so many seasons behind. I need everyone to stop making TV for a couple of years so I can get caught up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:52:28pm

re: #628 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You’re a terrifying tattooed gangster.
I like the textured colors on the stripes on the shield.

Hahahaha. And I’ve grown my beard back for the coming cold season. But yeah, I like symbolism in my work.

Blue is the colour of the deep skies, a perspective representation of the Carpathian mountains, hope for a better future, the colour of rational reasoning, freshness of the spirit and the body and undying diligence.

White is the colour of traditional peacefulness, hospitability, kindness, tolerance, peace, moral and physical purity, high culture and the natural pacifism of Rusyns.

Red associates with all that lives and is beautiful, with the aesthetic ideal of Rusyns, and it symbolises energy and health in man.

Description: in the left half there are three golden stripes on a blue background, in the right half, in dark red, there is a Carpathian bear standing on hind legs with an open mouth on a silver background. The bear symbolises the Carpathian mountains, the three golden stripes (according to some researchers) symbolise three rivers: Uh (Už), Latorica and Tisa.

Rusyns are a fascinating bunch. I’d say the most famous Rusyn-American is Andy Warhol followed by my cousin Mike Strank, who is in the famous Iwo Jima flag photo and was an immigrant.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:53:01pm

re: #630 teleskiguy

Hey, on the bright side, new season of South Park starts tonight.

Always Sunny in 8 for me! I still do like South Park but I’m a couple seasons behind.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:53:29pm
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calochortus  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:55:31pm

re: #627 HappyWarrior

Returning to appointed Senators is a relatively new concept. Very new in mainstream thought.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:55:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:56:35pm

re: #635 jaunte

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You mean the guy who is even less popular than Bork was? You mean the guy whose Fox stunt lost him 18 points with GOP women? Yeah they’re just furious. // The only people who think Kavanaugh is gettign a raw deal are GOP partisans and sex creeps but Irepeat myself.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:57:01pm

re: #636 calochortus

Returning to appointed Senators is a relatively new concept. Very new in mainstream thought.

Yeah i thought so. I first heard it about 10-15 years ago.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:57:06pm

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:57:27pm

re: #637 jaunte

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Kavanaugh is the one who has lied repeatedly. I keep on hearing about his good character. Where the hell is it?

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:58:00pm

re: #635 jaunte

That’s not news - it’s exactly how they behaved according to the 2016 election results. Cheeto Benito got millions of votes from these so-called “reasonable” and “intelligent” people on the right who merely pretend to oppose him when they don’t have the nerve to admit who they really are.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:58:20pm

Republicans can say Augh has good character but there’s very little to be shown that he actually does. Where’s him helping the less well off? Where’s him showing concern to victims of sexual assault? Just saying he’s a good guy! does not in fact make him a good guy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:58:38pm

re: #642 Interesting Times

That’s not news - it’s exactly how they behaved according to the 2016 election results. Cheeto Benito got millions of votes from these so-called “reasonable” and “intelligent” people on the right who merely pretend to oppose him when they don’t have the nerve to admit who they really are.

We call people like those chickenshits.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:01:10pm
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Jay C  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:01:36pm

re: #638 HappyWarrior

You mean the guy who is even less popular than Bork was? You mean the guy whose Fox stunt lost him 18 points with GOP women? Yeah they’re just furious. // The only people who think Kavanaugh is gettign a raw deal are GOP partisans and sex creeps but Irepeat myself.

I’m thinking this is pretty much a good sign- good in that Kavanaugh’s nomination is likely to be toast. The attempts at deflection seem to be getting more and more “outraged”, which AFAICT, is usually proof that there IS something to the allegations against K, and that sputtering about “leftist” “smears” is about their last talking-point.
I hope.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:02:55pm

re: #626 fern01

Avenatti would be 5000% better than trump and if he wants to run in the primaries - good luck to him. The attacks by republicans would run down his back and out the door - he is an open book as regards to who he is and what he does.

I doubt he would win a dem primary - but would make for some interesting debates - and at the end of the day - he would 100% support the winner, unlike some others who want to be President.

I’m all for him running in the primary. My only fear is that his ego couldn’t let him lose. But I do enjoy where he is now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:03:45pm

re: #646 Jay C

I’m thinking this is pretty much a good sign- good in that Kavanaugh’s nomination is likely to be toast. The attempts at deflection seem to be getting more and more “outraged”, which AFAICT, is usually proof that there IS something to the allegations against K, and that sputtering about “leftist” “smears” is about their last talking-point.
I hope.

I hope so. I think FNC will and he will be happy to play along if he’s rejected or withdrawn try to portray him as a victim and FNC will make him the 21st century Bork but obviously rather that than this scum bucket on scotus.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:05:03pm

Kavanaugh is a good man say the guys who overlooked grab em by the pussy, confirmed Sessions, etc.

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danarchy  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:05:09pm

So apparently that boat thing from earlier tonight has been recanted.

heavy.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:06:13pm

I did my best to upding everyone that watched the news conference. Not enough drugs in the world for me to view.

Are they ever going to let him do another?

I know they don’t look the same, but Trump should be played by Jack Nicholson in the movie. call it A Few Angry Men.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:07:10pm

re: #651 I Would Prefer Not To

a fI did my best to upding everyone that watched the news conference. Not enough drugs in the world for me to view.

Are they ever going to let him do another?

I know they don’t look the same, but Trump should be played by Jack Nicholson in the movie. call it A Few Angry Men.

If Jack were taller and younger, I think it’d be perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:08:15pm

Who plays Kavanaugh? I’m thinking of someone who made a great antagonist in a John Hughes movie or any 80’s movies.

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dangerman  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:08:29pm

re: #649 HappyWarrior

Kavanaugh is a good man say the guys who overlooked grab em by the pussy, confirmed Sessions, etc.

Kavanaugh is a good man means all the women are lying
If that’s what you believe
Don’t equivocate
Don’t explain why it’s a conspiracy

Say “all those women are flat out lying”

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:08:56pm

re: #627 HappyWarrior

I’m one of the younger ones here but when y’all were growing up was the now fairly mainstream GOP/right wing idea about doing away with the direct election of senators common?

When I was a teenager, EVERYTHING was different about the parties.

Just for example — women’s issues. who was the party for women?

It was President Nixon who signed Title IX, Title X and affirmative action into law. He was sort of begrudgingly conditionally okay on abortion, but President Ford and his family were vehemently, publicly, loudly pro-choice. The only woman senator was Margaret Chase Smith of Maine — the first woman who’d ever been elected in her own name (not just a widow filling hub’s seat) and the first to push back against McCarthy. Reagan wasn’t hugely feminist, but he did put the first woman on the supreme court (Sandra Day O’Connor) and his wife had a lot more involvement in policy and authority over staff than previous first ladies had had.

The Democrats at that time — their view of women and treatment of women was personified by Ted Kennedy.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:10:09pm

re: #650 danarchy

So apparently that boat thing from earlier tonight has been recanted.

heavy.com

The part about “then we went and beat up Kavanaugh and his buddy” sounded like rightwing fantasy, tbh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:10:50pm

re: #655 sagehen

When I was a teenager, EVERYTHING was different about the parties.

Just for example — women’s issues. who was the party for women?

It was President Nixon who signed Title IX, Title X and affirmative action into law. He was sort of begrudgingly conditionally okay on abortion, but President Ford and his family were vehemently, publicly, loudly pro-choice. The only woman senator was Margaret Chase Smith of Maine — the first woman who’d ever been elected in her own name (not just a widow filling hub’s seat) and the first to push back against McCarthy. Reagan wasn’t hugely feminist, but he did put the first woman on the supreme court (Sandra Day O’Connor) and his wife had a lot more involvement in policy and authority over staff than previous first ladies had had.

The Democrats at that time — their view of women and treatment of women was personified by Ted Kennedy.

I always admired how President Ford treated Mrs. Ford.

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:19:31pm

re: #642 Interesting Times

That’s not news - it’s exactly how they behaved according to the 2016 election results. Cheeto Benito got millions of votes from these so-called “reasonable” and “intelligent” people on the right who merely pretend to oppose him when they don’t have the nerve to admit who they really are.

Trump voters—stupid or hateful or both. (I will not change my mantra)

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:19:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:20:43pm

re: #658 BeachDem

Trump voters—stupid or hateful or both. (I will not change my mantra)

I get really tired of their blaming us for their shitty judgment.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:21:39pm

re: #635 jaunte

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Sure, this all checks out.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:23:54pm

I posted the “man’s” name

Obvious Russian bot is obvious

This is not an American human

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:26:00pm

re: #662 gocart mozart

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Holy Botman.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:26:08pm

re: #660 HappyWarrior

I get really tired of their blaming us for their shitty judgment.

True, but do you really think they’ll ever take responsibility themselves?

The bottom line for most of today’s RW is “it’s always somebody else’s fault”…..

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:26:51pm

re: #662 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:29:48pm

Time for a food break!

Chile en nogada consists of a large roasted and peeled chile poblano stuffed with a sweet and savory picadillo made with a combination of ground pork, chicken, and beef mixed with seasonal fruit. Peaches, apples, pears, raisins, almonds, English walnuts, and garlic mixed in with the three ground meats for the stuffing inside the chile poblano. Many cooks are divided over whether to apply an egg batter—before finishing the dish with nogada

The pinnacle of Mexican Cuisine!
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Kragar  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:31:55pm
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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:34:46pm

My poor iPhone is not happy with the size of this thread. 😢

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:35:43pm

re: #667 Kragar

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Trump who also brought Juanita Broederick to a debate to attack her accused’s wife. Trump who wanted to “lock her up.” Fuck oyu SHithead.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:37:40pm

I was just asked “did you watch the Trump news conference?” No I said. “Why not?” Because there is not enough indica in the world to get me through 90 minutes of Trump.

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:38:17pm

Holy mangled metaphors

I don’t know what to make of this

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:39:02pm

re: #671 gocart mozart

Holy mangled metaphors

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Do they not teach English at bot school?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:39:24pm

No matter how nasty things get, they will find a way to get nastier.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:41:44pm

re: #673 jaunte

No matter how nasty things get, they will find a way to get nastier.

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They just don’t give a fuck. They want him on SCOTUS at all costs. I would encourage voters especially women voters to castrate the GOP politically. They can’t stay in power if you don’t vote for them.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:41:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:43:20pm

re: #675 MsJ

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It’s all about who can kiss Trump’s ass the most. Not who can be the best person for the job.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:44:18pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:46:16pm
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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:48:20pm

re: #676 HappyWarrior

It’s all about who can kiss Trump’s ass the most. Not who can be the best person for the job.

Trump’s only criteria.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:48:43pm

re: #678 jaunte

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This whole thing just gets stranger and stranger. What the fuck is it about Kavanaugh that makes these guys so eager to deny these allegations? Oh right. He’s the poster child for Nixon’s wet dream of unregulated executive power.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:49:20pm

re: #680 HappyWarrior

This whole thing just gets stranger and stranger. What the fuck is it about Kavanaugh that makes these guys so eager to deny these allegations? Oh right. He’s the poster child for Nixon’s wet dream of unregulated executive power.

He’s bought and paid for.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:49:56pm

re: #681 MsJ

He’s bought and paid for.

Calling yourself a rapist to own the libs? That’s a new one even for them. Oh you meant Kavanaugh but surely there are otehrs.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:50:31pm

re: #666 Joe Bacon 🌹

Time for a food break!

Chile en nogada consists of a large roasted and peeled chile poblano stuffed with a sweet and savory picadillo made with a combination of ground pork, chicken, and beef mixed with seasonal fruit. Peaches, apples, pears, raisins, almonds, English walnuts, and garlic mixed in with the three ground meats for the stuffing inside the chile poblano. Many cooks are divided over whether to apply an egg batter—before finishing the dish with nogada

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I’m not a huge fan of rellenos, no matter what’s inside ‘em or how pretty they look. I just don’t like poblanos.

Now, if you had a picture of Cochinita Pibil, we’re be talkin’.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:50:51pm

Love/Hate the new economy local boom cycle. Just earned a few neighborly favors by reviewing the latest cannabis concentrates for a store and the best pairings with spirits. Oh my.

This is interesting and scary. Opportunity sure, but local inflation is nutz. Rents high, housing scarce, commutes brutal. LA shallow, you better have a really good pro network. It’s easy to fall off into poverty of homelessness. How did the lyrics go in the Sopranos theme? If you stumble, you may fall.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:51:00pm

re: #678 jaunte

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“Judiciary is also talking to someone who thinks he forced himself on Dr. Ford not Judge Kavanaugh”

He had better know corroborating details, such as the floor plan of the house, in order to be credible. I know a guy who can help, Ed Whalen. ///

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:52:15pm

Okay that’s TWICE today I CL’d a thread. LOL @ myself

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:53:06pm

re: #675 MsJ

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Jeez, what a fucking bullethead.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:53:45pm

re: #682 HappyWarrior

Calling yourself a rapist to own the libs? That’s a new one even for them. Oh you meant Kavanaugh but surely there are otehrs.

Because politics is win or lose to them. Country, norms, standards, morals, ethics don’t matter.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2018 • 7:55:53pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2018 • 8:27:57pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2018 • 9:02:29pm

re: #689 Ace-o-aces

He might have to assume the role of pleasing Ivanka.


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