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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:43:39pm

Coup? You say that word, I do not think you know what it means. A coup is actually more closer to what your pal Vlad did on your behalf.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:49:20pm

A shiny new thread! Here’s KalonicaNicx covering Rush.

RUSH - LimeLight // Drum cover by Kalonica Nicx

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gocart mozart  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:51:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:53:26pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

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Maybe he’ll learn his lesson from associating with these assholes in the future and that this is exactly what the Trump movement which from what I understand the 19 year old supports is all about.

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SteelPH  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:54:23pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Maybe he’ll learn his lesson from associating with these assholes in the future and that this is exactly what the Trump movement which from what I understand the 19 year old supports is all about.

You’re asking far, far too much from Dim Jim.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:55:08pm

re: #5 SteelPH

You’re asking far, far too much from Dim Jim.

Oh I’m not talking about DimJim. DimJim will never learn.

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gocart mozart  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:55:50pm
“I WAS NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULTED

It’s important for everyone to know that I was not sexually assaulted and would never falsely accuse anyone. To keep it brief for now- I was approached by a political figure to come to DC to discuss political situations from the standpoint of a gay Republican. When I arrived they discussed Peter Buttigieg and started talking about how they would be working a campaign against him. I went to bed and woke up to a fake Twitter @RealHunterKelly and an article that I in no way endorsed or wrote. I have since left and am working on a formal statement to give to everyone including the Buttigieg family. Thank you for standing behind me and knowing that I would never accept or allow any of this.”

advocate.com

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SteelPH  Apr 29, 2019 • 6:56:06pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Oh I’m not talking about DimJim. DimJim will never learn.

Oh, whoops!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:02:11pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:06:21pm
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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:08:12pm

Since I was thinking about Ed Baptist’s book The Half Has Never Been Told, which is a one-volume economic history of American slavery, I thought I’d flip through it and find my favorite chart. It’s this one. It shows how absolutely devastating the Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment were on the Southern economy.

If you go to the second from the bottom line, labeled “1860”, you’ll see that the total wealth of the USA was $16,160,000,000. There were nearly 4 million people enslaved at that point and the value of those 4 million people was $3,059,000,000. The last column shows that chattel property—enslaved persons—made up 18.9 percent of the wealth of the United States.

The last line shows US wealth in 1870 and the last three columns were zeroes. The end of slavery wrecked wealth in the South, at least until they got the carpetbaggers out and were able to institute Jim Crow.

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EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:13:57pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Hopefully this kid takes it to the next level and stops being a gay Republican.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:15:15pm

Kind of hope that Rick Wilson is accurate on this one:

Although - Trump is just deranged enough to try to just issue blanket pardons to entire classes of people.

Lawhawk - is there anything in the US Code that would prevent Trump from blanket-pardoning everyone who identifies themselves as a “Deplorable”? My understanding is that pardons have to be individualized - but in an age where laser printers & robo-signing can do 10,000x the work that quill pens and parchment could do in 1787, is there a hole in this law.

Could Donald Trump pardon everyone with an (R) next to their name for everything they’ve ever done?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:17:25pm
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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:18:07pm

re: #13 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Kind of hope that Rick Wilson is accurate on this one:

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Could Donald Trump pardon everyone with an (R) next to their name for everything they’ve ever done?

Not lawhawk, but Trump can’t pardon people from their state charges, for example. As for the rest of it, I will have to defer to anyone (anyone?) who has any experience in the law of pardons.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:19:45pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dude, they know they’re boxed in, and they’re going for their go-to - sue, delay, obstruct.

He needs to be impeached last month.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:20:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:21:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:21:54pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Because they’ve got nothing to hide it’s none of your business.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:22:35pm

re: #15 mmmirele

Not lawhawk, but Trump can’t pardon people from their state charges, for example. As for the rest of it, I will have to defer to anyone (anyone?) who has any experience in the law of pardons.

True on the state charges; but the problem is that Fed law supersedes and controls on a lot of the money-laundering and bank fraud charges. As well as the whole “collaborating with a hostile foreign power” stuff.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:24:22pm

re: #10 gocart mozart

Jacob Wohl is an inaccurate refrain.

Wohl, huh,
What is he good for
Absolutely nothing
Wohl, huh,
What is he good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y’all

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:27:00pm

I think that the NRA and the gun-humpers are going to be very, very surprised when the generation of American children who have been raised to live in fear of men with guns - who have spent their formative years learning how to hide from guns, in the sure knowledge that some day, an angry white man with an assault rifle is going to try to kill them and all their friends …

when all those kids become registered voters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:28:36pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Coup? You say that word, I do not think you know what it means. A coup is actually more closer to what your pal Vlad did on your behalf.

Trump is coup coup

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SteelPH  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:29:42pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

Dude, they know they’re boxed in, and they’re going for their go-to - sue, delay, obstruct.

He needs to be impeached last month.

He needs to be impeached last year.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:31:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:32:13pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Can you actually even sue someone for not breaking the law?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:33:40pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Most transparent administration ever!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:34:34pm

re: #25 Dr. Matt

Jacob Wohl is the Jacob Wohl of Jacob Wohl’s

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:39:02pm

Wait who pays for the Wohl?

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:39:31pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

advocate.com

Since this Hunter Kelly isn’t, AFAIK, a “public figure”, would HE be able to sue Wohl and Burkman for defamation or whatever, for using his name in a blatant scam like they were trying to pull?

If so, more power to him!

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:39:49pm

“…The suit, first reported by The New York Times, alleges that the subpoenas “have no legitimate or lawful purpose” and were issued “to rummage through every aspect of [Trump’s] personal finances, his businesses, and the private information of the President and his family, and to ferret about for any material that might be used to cause him political damage.”
businessinsider.com

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:40:44pm

In Trumpworld, Congressional oversight = “no legitimate or lawful purpose”

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:42:57pm
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Jay C  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:43:33pm

re: #32 jaunte

In Trumpworld, Congressional oversight = “no legitimate or lawful purpose”

Unless, of course, they’re “investigating” Hillary Clinton: then nothing’s too private.

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retired cynic  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:44:27pm

re: #33 jaunte

tangential relationship = children?

Different world those folks live in.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:44:33pm

re: #11 mmmirele

Since I was thinking about Ed Baptist’s book The Half Has Never Been Told, which is a one-volume economic history of American slavery, I thought I’d flip through it and find my favorite chart. It’s this one. It shows how absolutely devastating the Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment were on the Southern economy.

[Embedded content]

If you go to the second from the bottom line, labeled “1860”, you’ll see that the total wealth of the USA was $16,160,000,000. There were nearly 4 million people enslaved at that point and the value of those 4 million people was $3,059,000,000. The last column shows that chattel property—enslaved persons—made up 18.9 percent of the wealth of the United States.

The last line shows US wealth in 1870 and the last three columns were zeroes. The end of slavery wrecked wealth in the South, at least until they got the carpetbaggers out and were able to institute Jim Crow.

David Blight (Yale historian, Civil War specialist) in his online lecture series (or maybe I’m thinking of James McPherson’s book Battle Cry of Freedom, either way it’s something I heard about on TNC’s old Atlantic blog) used to harp on that.

The collective dollar value of the slaves was “more than all the railroads, factories and livestock in the country, combined. The only more valuable asset in the entire country was the collective value of all the land.”

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:45:22pm

re: #31 jaunte

“…The suit, first reported by The New York Times, alleges that the subpoenas “have no legitimate or lawful purpose” and were issued “to rummage through every aspect of [Trump’s] personal finances, his businesses, and the private information of the President and his family, and to ferret about for any material that might be used to cause him political damage.”
businessinsider.com

The Clinton lawsuit against Newt will be awesome.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:45:30pm

re: #35 retired cynic

They’re still calling Ivanka, Jared, Don and Eric “children.”

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:46:19pm

How dare the Feds investigate a Mafia don’s wife’s bank accounts?

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:52:34pm

This is my favorite turn of phrase at the moment in re: Jacob Wohl.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:55:29pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:57:26pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:59:10pm
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sagehen  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:59:35pm

re: #13 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Kind of hope that Rick Wilson is accurate on this one:

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Although - Trump is just deranged enough to try to just issue blanket pardons to entire classes of people.

Lawhawk - is there anything in the US Code that would prevent Trump from blanket-pardoning everyone who identifies themselves as a “Deplorable”? My understanding is that pardons have to be individualized - but in an age where laser printers & robo-signing can do 10,000x the work that quill pens and parchment could do in 1787, is there a hole in this law.

Could Donald Trump pardon everyone with an (R) next to their name for everything they’ve ever done?

Jimmy Carter pardoned more than 100,000 draft dodgers in one fell swoop, with one document.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 7:59:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:02:04pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:06:49pm

Dude has a pretty severe personality disorder, like his favorite God-King president*.

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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:07:28pm

re: #22 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I think that the NRA and the gun-humpers are going to be very, very surprised when the generation of American children who have been raised to live in fear of men with guns - who have spent their formative years learning how to hide from guns, in the sure knowledge that some day, an angry white man with an assault rifle is going to try to kill them and all their friends …

when all those kids become registered voters.

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Oh Jesus, that video was a kick in the teeth, the gut, the groin and the knees. I recommend everyone watch it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:09:18pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

Dude has a pretty severe personality disorder, like his favorite God-King president*.

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He could be the spawn of Rage Furby.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:13:49pm

Jacob Wohl is the Eric Trump of Donald Trump Juniors.

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:14:54pm

I want the fucking Nazis purged from our armed forces. That shit is incredibly frightening. We talk about the military not following illegal commands. I think the Nazis will do anything for the fat orange tyrant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:15:19pm

All in all, he’s just another big dick named Wohl…

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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:16:02pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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OK, well, I think it’s time to share these, which I got on the same day last week. I should note that I gave Bernie money once ($25) early in the 2016 election cycle. After that, I settled on Clinton when I dug more into Bernie. But this is like Scientology staff sending letters to people who bought Dianetics in 1993 and never did another “service.” Creepy? yes. It’s behind the lock and key.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:19:57pm

Of course….

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:20:11pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

This is my favorite turn of phrase at the moment in re: Jacob Wohl.

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I liked “the Fyre Festival” of conspiracies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:21:12pm

re: #41 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Won’t stop THE GRASSHOLE from continuing to obey Trump no matter what.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:21:40pm
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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:21:41pm

Oh, speaking of pictures, I got a note as part of the love bombing campaign from A*pologi*a “church” yesterday. It’s behind the lock and key.

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It sets my teeth on edge that they drag their kids into this. :(

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:21:55pm

re: #54 Dr. Matt

He’s thinking “mole” not “Wohl.” Totally different beast.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:22:13pm

Don’t fall for it. They will all fall back in line and support Trump again because of “illegal aliens!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:24:29pm

I gave $$$ to Bernie and also to Hillary. Berniebots were IMing me until I blocked their phone #s.

Right now the Berniebots have turned the Los Angeles DSA into a shambles with all their infighting. And they don’t want to include anyone who doesn’t worship Bernie in the local. I’m working with Warren’s people here to help get organized.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:26:17pm

Not gonna lie, I’m enjoying the dragging this punk is getting.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:26:39pm

re: #55 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I liked “the Fyre Festival” of conspiracies.

I saw a dude at the #umphreys show at Belly Up Aspen wearing a Fyre Festival t-shirt. We had a good laugh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:27:47pm

Aw crap.

RIP Bruce Bickford. Remember the great work you did with Frank Zappa…

animationmagazine.net

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:31:32pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fuckin’ aye right. RIP Bruce Bickford.

He did all the animation in this video.

Frank Zappa - Inca Roads (A Token Of His Extreme)

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:32:05pm

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

All in all, he’s just another big dick named Wohl…

Well played.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:32:11pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

I saw a dude at the #umphreys show at Belly Up Aspen wearing a Fyre Festival t-shirt. We had a good laugh.

Those will be valuable collectors’ items one day.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:32:31pm

re: #51 plansbandc

I want the fucking Nazis purged from our armed forces. That shit is incredibly frightening. We talk about the military not following illegal commands. I think the Nazis will do anything for the fat orange tyrant.

And they’ll frag any CO who tells them not to.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:34:54pm

re: #67 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Those will be valuable collectors’ items one day.

Oh, the shirt was counterfeit, a joke on fabric.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:41:54pm

Why do Republicans hate oversight so much?

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SteelPH  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:43:43pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Why do Republicans hate oversight so much?

They can only win without it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:53:10pm

re: #44 sagehen

Jimmy Carter pardoned more than 100,000 draft dodgers in one fell swoop, with one document.

That was for a specific crime. No such thing as a blanket pardon. Until now at least.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2019 • 8:58:00pm

I fully expect Trump to issue a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration and the corrupted Supreme Court will uphold it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2019 • 9:13:38pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Coup? You say that word, I do not think you know what it means. A coup is actually more closer to what your pal Vlad did on your behalf.

My delusional brother started making that claim this past weekend. There is a vast right wing media — print and on the internet — that has infected too many Americans. It’s bad enough when some uneducated worker who is financially bereft follows Trump out of despair — but when those with college degrees who are financially comfortable, well traveled, and friends with citizens of other nations are brainwashed into joining team Trump, we are in deep trouble.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2019 • 9:17:18pm

re: #53 mmmirele

OK, well, I think it’s time to share these, which I got on the same day last week. I should note that I gave Bernie money once ($25) early in the 2016 election cycle. After that, I settled on Clinton when I dug more into Bernie. But this is like Scientology staff sending letters to people who bought Dianetics in 1993 and never did another “service.” Creepy? yes. It’s behind the lock and key.

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SteelPH  Apr 29, 2019 • 9:40:54pm

re: #75 Hecuba’s daughter

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2019 • 10:10:07pm

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

That was for a specific crime. No such thing as a blanket pardon. Until now at least.

Ford’s pardon of Nixon was pretty much a blanket pardon. So, there have been blanket pardons, and there have been mass pardons. But I’m not sure there have been mass blanket pardons.

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

I fully expect Trump to issue a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration and the corrupted Supreme Court will uphold it.

The pardon power (rightly or wrongly) is pretty sweeping in its scope. I would be surprised if a pardon was challenged if the Supreme Court didn’t come back 9-0 in a decision upholding it.

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2019 • 10:12:41pm

re: #53 mmmirele

This is something petty with Sanders, but it is also one of the many reasons I don’t like him, I don’t like it when politicians decide to have their campaign materials refer to them by only their first name. I don’t want to listen to Senator Sanders, I’m definitely not interested in listening to Bernie.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 29, 2019 • 11:01:05pm

re: #78 KGxvi

This is something petty with Sanders, but it is also one of the many reasons I don’t like him, I don’t like it when politicians decide to have their campaign materials refer to them by only their first name. I don’t want to listen to Senator Sanders, I’m definitely not interested in listening to Bernie.

Unless there’s a good reason — like Hillary’s campaign.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 29, 2019 • 11:54:03pm

Now that I’ve killed the thread, it’s time for bed. Good night, silent lizards!

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sagehen  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:07:44am

re: #77 KGxvi

Ford’s pardon of Nixon was pretty much a blanket pardon. So, there have been blanket pardons, and there have been mass pardons. But I’m not sure there have been mass blanket pardons.

When the great majority of traitors were let slide at the start of reconstruction… was that an official mass blanket pardon, or did The Authorities just turn their heads and pretend it hadn’t happened?

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sagehen  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:09:37am

re: #79 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Unless there’s a good reason — like Hillary’s campaign.

Sure, when you’ve got people who share a surname. Or like Mayor Pete, because so few of us can pronounce his last name properly.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:26:14am

Ooh, foreshadowing for the win!

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:32:25am
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:44:51am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 30, 2019 • 12:50:35am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:01:46am

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

Meloni is one of my favorite actors, and I’m glad to see he’s an anti-Trumper to the max.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:06:21am

Those poor kids.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:16:52am

re: #83 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Here’s the same trick, but in costume for filming.

Hidden because it’s possibly a GoT spoiler, unless you’re very astute and have figured out why Arya needs to be such a badass with a blade.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:22:29am
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:28:16am

Did something change in those 5 hours?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 30, 2019 • 1:48:39am

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Alephnaught  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:04:46am

re: #3 gocart mozart

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It gets worse. According to the Advocate story, he was forced to back up the claims.

Burkman took to his Twitter to defend the story by posting photos that show a signed statement by Hunter Kelly that discuss an alleged assault involving Buttigieg, and a photo of the student with his student identification.

However, Kelly says the two men forced him to sign the statement and take the photo.

“They basically forced me to sign that and take that photo,” Kelly told The Advocate shortly after this tweet. “I had no say in either. In the photo you can clearly see I had been crying.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:10:32am

re: #94 Alephnaught

Kelly needs to sue those two bastards for pain and suffering, and fraud, plus other stuff I’m sure a clever lawyer can find.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:18:06am

re: #95 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m just, well, I can’t even come up with the right words for this. Stupid and evil? Stevil? No, that’s not even close. What the ever loving fuck? This is giving me a literal pain behind an eye trying to figure this out. And it’s early. Ouch.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:22:02am

re: #96 A Mom Anon

I’m just, well, I can’t even come up with the right words for this. Stupid and evil? Stevil? No, that’s not even close. What the ever loving fuck? This is giving me a literal pain behind an eye trying to figure this out. And it’s early. Ouch.

It’s clear they exploited and probably coerced (blackmail?) this poor kid to sign that letter and take the photo. He may have voluntarily come to DC, but I will betcha they lured him down there, then said they wouldn’t pay his way back unless he cooperated. Or worse.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:36:38am

YouTube knew I needed cheering up, I guess. This is near the end of one of my favorite movies, Swing Girls, about a group of high school misfits who manage to form a decent jazz band.

Sing Sing Sing - スウィングガールズ Suwingu Gāruzu

According to the “liner notes,” the actors learned their instruments from scratch in order to perform convincingly on camera.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:38:37am

re: #97 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I hope that he’s safe and talking to law enforcement. Who would have jurisdiction over this mess?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:44:01am

re: #99 A Mom Anon

I hope that he’s safe and talking to law enforcement. Who would have jurisdiction over this mess?

FBI, because he traveled across state lines, I assume.

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Alephnaught  Apr 30, 2019 • 2:55:25am

Also, posting personal info on Twitter (eg the ID above, and the signature) is against it’s rules.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 30, 2019 • 3:26:07am

re: #101 Alephnaught

Nothing happened to Wohl after he tried to get a woman to fabricate sexual harassment claims against Mueller. I don’t see him being punished for this stunt either.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 30, 2019 • 3:27:34am

re: #88 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

They could have boycotted or declined the invitation. Many others have done so.

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Scout  Apr 30, 2019 • 3:47:27am

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

They could have boycotted or declined the invitation. Many others have done so.

Baylor is a hard-core Baptist (that is to say, jesus-freak) campus. That may be why. The jesus freaks loves themselves some adulterous lechers.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 3:48:30am

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

They could have boycotted or declined the invitation. Many others have done so.

True, but Baylor is a Baptist school, so it leans conservative and boycotting Il Trumpino might not have been an option.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 30, 2019 • 3:58:25am

re: #101 Alephnaught

That signature on the second tweet is a DocuSign e-signature.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 4:05:52am

re: #106 Eric The Fruit Bat

That signature on the second tweet is a DocuSign e-signature.

Yeah, I saw that, too. Def not a real sig.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 30, 2019 • 4:43:25am

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Nothing happened to Wohl after he tried to get a woman to fabricate sexual harassment claims against Mueller. I don’t see him being punished for this stunt either.

Some clever, highly experienced and well-funded trickster should execute a really spectacular Sacha Baron Cohen uber-punking on Ass-wohl. He is probably on the lookout for Cohen himself but there must be others.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 4:45:16am

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

I fully expect Trump to issue a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration and the corrupted Supreme Court will uphold it.

Not presidential level but Kentucky Gov Ernie Fletcher (R) did exactly that for everyone in his administration before he left office in disgrace.
Kentucky Governor Pardons Aides Facing Charges

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 4:55:51am

A law-guy weighs in on the Trump lawsuit against Deutsche Bank and Capital One.

In the thread, someone notes that filing a lawsuit to stop someone from answering a subpoena seems rather … dumb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:08:44am
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jeffreyw  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:11:43am

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:19:25am

re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

A law-guy weighs in on the Trump lawsuit against Deutsche Bank and Capital One.

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In the thread, someone notes that filing a lawsuit to stop someone from answering a subpoena seems rather … dumb.

I’ve seen others opine that if the goal is simply to delay release until 2020 or beyond it might not be a bad strategy.

EDIT: oh, I see that’s the second comment. Should read first.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:22:07am

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

I’ve seen others opine that if the goal is simply to delay release until 2020 or beyond it might not be a bad strategy.

EDIT: oh, I see that’s the second comment. Should read first.

Here’s hoping the judge reads that filing, laughs (or cries), and rules, “Nope! Subpoenas have precedence over your tender fee-fees.”

EDIT: Trump does not have the smartest lawyers representing him. All the really good lawyers avoid him like the plague.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:24:03am

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

I’ve seen others opine that if the goal is simply to delay release until 2020 or beyond it might not be a bad strategy.

Can’t see it dragging out that long. They’d first need a TRO or preliminary injunction to preclude a response. They’ll probably get that based on the potential harm to the respective parties. The court would then need to set an evidentiary hearing on a permanent injunction, possibly combined with a trial on the merits. The ting is, though, this is largely an issue of law, rather than fact. There shouldn’t be a need for extensive discovery, and the issue could possibly be resolved on motion.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:25:31am

re: #115 Mike Lamb

Can’t see it dragging out that long. They’d first need a TRO or preliminary injunction to preclude a response. They’ll probably get that based on the potential harm to the respective parties. The court would then need to set an evidentiary hearing on a permanent injunction, possibly combined with a trial on the merits. The ting is, though, this is largely an issue of law, rather than fact. There shouldn’t be a need for extensive discovery, and the issue could possibly be resolved on motion.

Good (I think). Sounds like DB wants to comply.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:30:26am

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

Good (I think). Sounds like DB wants to comply.

As does Trump’s accounting firm to another congressional subpoena.

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:43:31am

Hey, Happy, I thought you might enjoy this:

Blue Lives Matter! Except when a black policewoman told this entitled state senator where to park

The verbal altercation happened between her and a member of the Capitol police, Ashley Berryman. According to the incident report, [Amanda] Chase pulled up to the pedestrian plaza outside a building at the state capitol and demanded to be let into a restricted area. Chase already had an assigned parking spot elsewhere. The officer called to see if she could get access, but was told that Chase was not on the required list and did not have permission. The officer reiterated to Chase that she had no authority to let her park in the restricted area.

According to the report, rather than letting it go, Amanda Chase used the “don’t you know who I am?” screed and swore at the officer. Allegedly, she told the officer that she wasn’t going to move her car unless she “let the f***ing barricades down to let me in!” This caused a traffic jam with buses being stuck behind her.

When called out about her boorish behavior, Amanda Chase made a bad situation much, much worse.

She not only accused the officer of lying, but also said the Capitol police were infiltrated by “democrat operatives.” (Blue Lives Matter, my ass…)

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:44:51am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:48:37am

Be

cause we need to laugh.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2019 • 5:58:50am

Straight-up cultism

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:00:13am

re: #98 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

YouTube knew I needed cheering up, I guess. This is near the end of one of my favorite movies, Swing Girls, about a group of high school misfits who manage to form a decent jazz band.

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Video

According to the “liner notes,” the actors learned their instruments from scratch in order to perform convincingly on camera.

After so many years of hearing that song, I learned only last year that it was written by Lous Prima. That song put him on the map.

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Old Liberal  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:03:03am

re: #121 Dr. Matt

Straight-up cultism

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That big sign on the front helps that big pickup achieve 4 gallons per mile. Need tax cut to pay for gas.

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dharmamark  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:05:26am

re: #118 Belafon

Makes me proud to be a Virginian…

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:08:48am

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Nothing happened to Wohl after he tried to get a woman to fabricate sexual harassment claims against Mueller. I don’t see him being punished for this stunt either.

The forged or forced document is a big difference.

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lawhawk  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:11:58am

re: #20 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

True on the state charges; but the problem is that Fed law supersedes and controls on a lot of the money-laundering and bank fraud charges. As well as the whole “collaborating with a hostile foreign power” stuff.

Some states have very stringent money laundering charges, such as NY and CA, so no, it wont supersede.

Pardons also raise Burdick issues - namely that to get the pardon, you’d have to allocute to a crime, and it then opens the door to revealing more criminality by others on both state and federal charges.

The federal conspiracy charges have no state analog, so if you are pardoned on those, there’s no way around it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:13:45am

*insert facepalm jpg*

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lawhawk  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:16:35am

re: #127 Dr. Matt

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jeffreyw  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:20:06am

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Big Med/Pharma are the Robber Barons of the 21st Century.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:22:49am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:23:10am

re: #128 lawhawk

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The Onion couldn’t have written that headline.

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:26:33am
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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:28:51am
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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:29:38am

re: #123 Old Liberal

That big sign on the front helps that big pickup achieve 4 gallons per mile. Need tax cut to pay for gas.

Is it a sign or does it have some more sinister purpose, like plowing through libs to own them?
Wish I was ///

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:30:54am

re: #123 Old Liberal

That big sign on the front helps that big pickup achieve 4 gallons per mile. Need tax cut to pay for gas.

Who needs a tax cut when they got…Jay-Zuss?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:31:23am

re: #128 lawhawk

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There’s a reason why this hack was defeated for re-election by a considerable amount here. She’s nothing but a GOP hack.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:31:36am

re: #122 makeitstop

After so many years of hearing that song, I learned only last year that it was written by Lous Prima. That song put him on the map.

Well, now. I just learned something new. :-)

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:36:11am

re: #125 Belafon

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Nothing happened to Wohl after he tried to get a woman to fabricate sexual harassment claims against Mueller. I don’t see him being punished for this stunt either.

The forged or forced document is a big difference.

Didn’t Wohl and Burkman also proffer some “documentation” in their inane Mueller charges as well? With about the same level of credibility as Hunter Kelly’s? (I notice said “signature” isn’t notarized).

And Burkman’s “riposte” is just typical of these scamsters: when caught out, just double down and claim “conspiracy”: and there’ll always be an idiot fringe who will buy it….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:37:37am

re: #138 Jay C

More proof that Republicans are above the law.

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lawhawk  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:40:37am

re: #138 Jay C

Didn’t Wohl and Burkman also proffer some “documentation” in their inane Mueller charges as well? With about the same level of credibility as Hunter Kelly’s? (I notice said “signature” isn’t notarized).

And Burkman’s “riposte” is just typical of these scamsters: when caught out, just double down and claim “conspiracy”: and there’ll always be an idiot fringe who will buy it….

Yes. They tried the same exact gambit to go after Mueller and were caught with lying, forging signatures, and all the rest.

The latest incident should be another TOS violation for both on Twitter, and prosecutors should really consider indicting both. The state bar association should also go after Burkman’s law license.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:45:37am
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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:47:10am

re: #137 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Well, now. I just learned something new. :-)

I always figured that Benny Goodman wrote it! But just like now, recording artists back then bought songs and had hits with them.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:47:52am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not presidential level but Kentucky Gov Ernie Fletcher (R) did exactly that for everyone in his administration before he left office in disgrace.
Kentucky Governor Pardons Aides Facing Charges

Somehow I think DT is too vindictive to sign a blanket pardon, also too full of his own grievances. Why should he make their lives easier when everything bad that happens to him is THEIR FAULT?

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:50:53am

Dunning-Kruger… And Michael E Mann responding.

And I added my €.02 worth to the mix…

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William Lewis  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:58:05am

re: #98 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

YouTube knew I needed cheering up, I guess. This is near the end of one of my favorite movies, Swing Girls, about a group of high school misfits who manage to form a decent jazz band.

[Embedded content]

Video

According to the “liner notes,” the actors learned their instruments from scratch in order to perform convincingly on camera.

Damn. That’s beautiful. Love that clip on mouse :D

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 6:58:33am

re: #144 Teukka

Obligatory pic I forgot… Was it here I stole it from?

Learn the signs, y’all
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:07:22am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not presidential level but Kentucky Gov Ernie Fletcher (R) did exactly that for everyone in his administration before he left office in disgrace.
Kentucky Governor Pardons Aides Facing Charges

It was no big deal; they were just Noodling out of season/

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Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:07:25am

Obama Derangement Syndrome

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:18:11am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Republicans blame Obama for everything even when they’re straining on the toilet bowl…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:20:29am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

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Obama Derangement Syndrome

Obama’s world? Right…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:20:49am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans blame Obama for everything even when they’re straining on the toilet bowl…

Obama is why they’re miserable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:21:00am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:23:01am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:25:12am

My pet peeve, continued from last night.

Grown-ass adults shoving foods in each other’s mouths, where did that come from? It is a stock photo meme, intended to show, what, I dunno, having “fun” in a restaurant?

Has anyone here ever shared a bite with a loved one by cramming it directly into their mouth? With a fork? A chopstick? Your fingers? Was it a taco? Spaghetti? Were you drunk at the time? Just curious if people actually do this or it’s just a lame advertising gimmick.

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Citizen K  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:25:26am

Don’t look now, but the courts may be well on their way to all but criminalizing protest, should someone, anyone, at your protest decide to act up.

On July 9, 2016, a group of Black Lives Matter activists blocked the highway in front of the Baton Rouge, Louisiana, police department headquarters to protest the July 5 killing of Alton Sterling. Someone threw a hard object at police, injuring a BPRD officer, who later reported “loss of teeth, a jaw injury, a brain injury, a head injury, lost wages, ‘and other compensable losses.’”

DeRay Mckesson, a high-profile, Baltimore-based Black Lives Matter organizer, was arrested along with more than 100 others. The anonymous officer, referred to as John Doe, sued McKesson and the entire Black Lives Matter movement, alleging that “McKesson did nothing to prevent the violence or to calm the crowd” and that he “incited the violence.”

Doe’s 17-page complaint portrays the BLM movement as a violent nationwide conspiracy. But nowhere does it allege a specific word or action taken by Mckesson that led to or caused the violence in Baton Rogue. The closest it gets is, “Black Lives Matter leadership ratified all action taken during the protest. DeRay McKesson ratified all action taken during the Baton Rogue protest.”

[…]

A panel of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals held the case from late 2017 until last week, when, without allowing oral argument, the panel reinstated the lawsuit. It said that the officer, if he proves his claims, could collect damages because “Mckesson breached his duty of reasonable care in the course of organizing and leading the Baton Rouge demonstration.” Because blocking a highway is against the law, “McKesson should have known that leading the demonstrators onto a busy highway was most nearly certain to provoke a confrontation between police and the mass of demonstrators, yet he ignored the foreseeable danger … and notwithstanding did so anyway.” Someone else threw the object; there was no evidence that Mckesson urged anyone to throw anything. Nonetheless “Mckesson’s negligent actions were the [factual] causes of Officer Doe’s injuries.”

The Fifth Circuit panel’s decision is clearly wrong under the law as it now stands. There can be no liability, civil or criminal, for speech that “incites” violence unless the defendant can be shown to have intentionally urged violence, knowing that listeners would likely respond immediately with violent behavior.

The last line alone basically echos our worst fears:

The last two years have been a kind of national Walpurgisnacht, calculated to summon the worst impulses of conservative jurists. We own the courts now, an inner voice may be whispering; no need for precedent or even explanation. Doe v. Mckesson may be an anomaly, but it also may be a straw in a very chill wind.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:26:27am

re: #126 lawhawk

Some states have very stringent money laundering charges, such as NY and CA, so no, it wont supersede.

Pardons also raise Burdick issues - namely that to get the pardon, you’d have to allocute to a crime, and it then opens the door to revealing more criminality by others on both state and federal charges.

The federal conspiracy charges have no state analog, so if you are pardoned on those, there’s no way around it.

Also if you’re pardoned you can’t take the 5th if asked questions regarding those events if called upon to testify.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:27:43am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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So: “…a criminal referral to the Justice Dept…” re Erik Prince “lying to Congress”??

Whose desk is that going to land on? AG Barr’s? And what can Congress do if he just chortles and round-files said “referral”?

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:28:37am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

My pet peeve, continued from last night.

Grown-ass adults shoving foods in each other’s mouths, where did that come from? It is a stock photo meme, intended to show, what, I dunno, having “fun” in a restaurant?

Has anyone here ever shared a bite with a loved one by cramming it directly into their mouth? With a fork? A chopstick? Your fingers? Was it a taco? Spaghetti? Were you drunk at the time? Just curious if people actually do this or it’s just a lame advertising gimmick.

A couple of times in my life, yes.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:29:11am

re: #153 I Would Prefer Not To

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That guy’s heart is in the right place, and there is truth in his statement overall, but it is so generalized and imprecise in detail that it actually does more harm than good. In Alabama we are fighting to teach people in jail and in prison that most of them have not lost their voting rights. We have to do it sometimes one sheriff at a time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:29:39am

re: #158 Belafon

A couple of times in my life, yes.

Was it your wedding cake?

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sagehen  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:30:17am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone here ever shared a bite with a loved one by cramming it directly into their mouth? With a fork? A chopstick? Your fingers? Was it a taco? Spaghetti? Were you drunk at the time? Just curious if people actually do this or it’s just a lame advertising gimmick.

Wedding cake. Most wedding photo albums show the bride and groom doing this.

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danarchy  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:31:10am

re: #158 Belafon

A couple of times in my life, yes.

Doesn’t this happen at every wedding ever when the bride and groom feed each other cake?

Edit:Nevermind

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:31:44am

Thanks, guys. Now I’m hungry for cake.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:32:17am

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WEDDING CAKE WHICH IS A TRADITION (although we did not do it at my wedding or at any of my kids weddings)

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:32:20am

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

Was it your wedding cake?

Nope. Has it been simultaneously as in the stock image? Not for mine, but I have said that my wife needs to try what I’m eating, and have held the fork up. And yes, she’s done the same for me.

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danarchy  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:33:05am

re: #163 makeitstop

Thanks, guys. Now I’m hungry for cake.

Just had a blueberry muffin with my coffee. That’s pretty close to having cake for breakfast.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:33:44am

I could go for some cake now. Damn. Still got some leftover Easter candy though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:34:35am

re: #166 danarchy

Just had a blueberry muffin with my coffee. That’s pretty close to having cake for breakfast.

Blueberry muffins sound good.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:34:51am

Pie not cake. Always. That picture doesn’t really look like ‘shoving food in peoples mouths’, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:34:59am

It’s idiots all the way down==>

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:36:30am

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

It’s idiots all the way down==>

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Oh that’s hilarious. // This guy is a racist asshole.

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DangerMan  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:40:49am

re: #122 makeitstop

After so many years of hearing that song, I learned only last year that it was written by Lous Prima. That song put him on the map.

i was weaned on the 1938 concert at carnegie hall
i didnt read labels or album covers back then, so i just assumed…

first heard of louie prima in the 80’s - , and then of course the movie Big Night in ‘96
i think it was rock and roll that got in the way

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William Lewis  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:41:40am

re: #163 makeitstop

Thanks, guys. Now I’m hungry for cake.

Ditto. Good thing my sausage and eggs are frying :D

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:41:42am

As much as I enjoyed Endgame, I also have been hooked on the numbers. Endgame accounted for 89% of all movie business this weekend. Yesterday, it made $37.3M domestically; in second place was Captain Marvel at $718K.

deadline.com

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:42:08am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Oh that’s hilarious. // This guy is a racist asshole.

That guy seems to have a whole fucking bag full of issues. I haven’t seen a single quote from him that wasn’t just bone stupid.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:44:14am

re: #155 Citizen K

Perfect example of the real goals of the Trump GOP—to make us retake all the ground won in the FDR and Kennedy/Johnson years. Much of the damage is already done, and won’t be undone for a generation, even if we win big in 2020.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:46:03am

re: #174 Belafon

The reason it’s made so much $ already is because they’ve been showing this movie more than any other ever I’d guess. There were 6:30AM showtimes over the weekend!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:46:30am

re: #175 makeitstop

That guy seems to have a whole fucking bag full of issues. I haven’t seen a single quote from him that wasn’t just bone stupid.

Ditto. Not one intelligent take have I ever seen from Moore.

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William Lewis  Apr 30, 2019 • 7:56:18am

re: #172 DangerMan

i was weaned on the 1938 concert at carnegie hall
i didnt read labels or album covers back then, so i just assumed…

first of louie prima till the 80’s - , and then of course the movie Big Night in ‘96
i think it was rock and roll that got in the way

Oh, the 38 concert, with Jess Stacy’s glorious & unplanned piano solo that made a good song one for the ages…

12-min version of “Sing, Sing, Sing (With a Swing)” live @ Carnegie Hall, 1938

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:00:04am

re: #179 William Lewis

Is that Gene Krupa on drums?

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:00:29am

re: #177 GlutenFreeJesus

The reason it’s made so much $ already is because they’ve been showing this movie more than any other ever I’d guess. There were 6:30AM showtimes over the weekend!

The demand was that high for sure. I watched people just streaming in while waiting for my son at the theater at 9am.

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William Lewis  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:03:16am

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Is that Gene Krupa on drums?

Oh, yeah. He was doing his usual Sturm & Drang :D

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DangerMan  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:04:58am

re: #179 William Lewis

Oh, the 38 concert, with Jess Stacy’s glorious & unplanned piano solo that made a good song one for the ages…

[Embedded content]

Video

exacto
my mom used to play this when i was like five years old
i had no idea why i liked it. i just know i did!
it’s visceral

mom had it on 78’s, then later on 33 1/3 lps,
then eventually on cd, which she still listens to (she’s 91)

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:06:07am

re: #183 DangerMan

exacto
my mom used to play this when i was like five years old
i had no idea why i liked it. i just know i did!
it’s visceral

mom had it on 78’s, then later on 33 1/3 lps,
then eventually on cd, which she still listens to (she’s 91)

Any plans to upgrade her to MP3 or MP4? semi-///

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:09:37am

So, looks like Juan Guaido is attempting a coup down in Venezuela.

As the old saying goes, when you aim for the king, you’d better not miss. If this fails, then he (and his cohorts) are either gonna end up dead or forced to flee the country, and most likely, they’d end up in the US.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:11:30am

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

So, looks like Juan Guaido is attempting a coup down in Venezuela.

As the old saying goes, when you aim for the king, you’d better not miss. If this fails, then he (and his cohorts) are either gonna end up dead or forced to flee the country, and most likely, they’d end up in the US.

Where the Border Patrol can charge them an application fee for asylum.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:12:33am

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

Or, because the US is recognizing Guiado, will shit-for-brains send military aid?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:13:47am

In regards to the situation in Venezuela, I can already see a few problems developing.

The coup plotters have apparently not bothered to seize communications as well as media outlets. Furthermore, you don’t launch a coup at 8 or 9 a.m.; you do it very early in the morning, around 3 or 4 a.m.

I could be wrong, but I think this looks like some ham-fisted attempted putsch that will likely end up in failure, and like I said, with either Guaido and friends dead or on the next plane to Miami.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:15:16am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Or, because the US is recognizing Guiado, will shit-for-brains send military aid?

Hard to say; I could see Trump doing that, but then again, he’s a lot of talk and no action. Frankly, Guaido is a fool if he’d trust Trump’s word at anything.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:19:53am

You definitely worry for the average Venezuelan caught in the middle.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:20:11am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

Hard to say; I could see Trump doing that, but then again, he’s a lot of talk and no action. Frankly, Guaido is a fool if he’d trust Trump’s word at anything.

Yeah I wouldn’t trust him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:32:43am

re: #189 Dr Lizardo

Hard to say; I could see Trump doing that, but then again, he’s a lot of talk and no action. Frankly, Guaido is a fool if he’d trust Trump’s word at anything.

Yeah but Trump wants that oil…

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:39:00am

re: #192 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah but Trump wants that oil…

Does he? Or is it more of wanting to keep Venezuela’s production off the market to keep prices up to please his pals in KSA (and Russia)??

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:44:36am

Found this via John Cole at Balloon Juice:

twitter.com

Unsurprising that this would get little publicity over here. But (unfortunately/sadly/disgustingly) equally unsurprising this attitude would surface from an Israeli.

OOPS: Format FAIL! Nut graf here:

The Jewish Worker
@JewishWorker
8m8 minutes ago

Ilhan Omar breathes and it’s on the front page of every Jewish paper with a screaming headline. A famous Israeli commentator who writes for Israel’s top newspaper, Yediot Ahranot, says American Jews deserve to be murdered for being anti-Israel? Silence.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:48:58am

re: #194 Jay C

Found this via John Cole at Balloon Juice:

twitter.com

Unsurprising that this would get little publicity over here. But (unfortunately/sadly/disgustingly) equally unsurprising this attitude would surface from an Israeli.

OOPS: Format FAIL! Nut graf here:

This is fucking sick.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:56:39am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

This is fucking sick.

No kidding.
Here’s a link to the original piece (in French)

The Jewish Worker site has a translation up (can’t copy, unfortunately): seems to be the Google Translate version. RTWT.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:00:26am

re: #196 Jay C

No kidding.
Here’s a link to the original piece (in French)

The Jewish Worker site has a translation up (can’t copy, unfortunately): seems to be the Google Translate version. RTWT.

I’m really worried that Israel is becoming like Hungary, a fascist ethno-state. Our alliance to me was always based on shared democratic principles compared with the absolute monarchies and dictatorships around it. That line seems to be increasingly thin. Obviously it’s not all Israelis but it’s definitely worrying as has been what’s happened here.

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DangerMan  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:01:06am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Where the Border Patrol can charge them an application fee for asylum.

monetizing asylum applications is cheap, petty and sadly oh so predictable

im sure miller’s fingerprints are all over this
and trumps trying to figure how to get those fees into his pocket

oh, did i say it’s also fucking insane and inhumane?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:02:11am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:02:17am

I’m really worried we’re entering a redux of the Pre WWII days where nationalistic fascism and socialism or bust types are in competition and the average person is caught in the middle of these two ideologies.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:03:04am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This isn’t going to end well. There will be refugees after this and Trump wants to make being a refugee harder.

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:03:42am

Just saw this on a guitar forum I belong to…

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:05:38am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to end well. There will be refugees after this and Trump wants to make being a refugee harder.

[tinfoil]Maybe that’s the point of supporting the opposition?[/tinfoil]

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sagehen  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:06:42am

re: #202 makeitstop

Just saw this on a guitar forum I belong to…

[Embedded content]

Does it come in a v-neck?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:06:42am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:06:43am

re: #203 Teukka

[tinfoil]Maybe that’s the point of supporting the opposition?[/tinfoil]

No idea but whoever is supported, this will happen. I’m more pro immigrant than ever today.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:08:00am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

English is a strange language. No wonder why Nana Bridget stuck with her Irish after nearly 60 years in the US.

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:08:09am

re: #204 sagehen

Does it come in a v-neck?

20 bucks extra. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:10:26am

I have actually seen Trumporrhoids on Twitter attempt to blame the Poway shooting on Ilhan Omar.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:11:38am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to end well. There will be refugees after this and Trump wants to make being a refugee harder a criminal offense

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:11:45am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

I have actually seen Trumporrhoids on Twitter attempt to blame the Poway shooting on Ilhan Omar.

[Embedded content]

I hate this fascist monster.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:12:11am

re: #210 Jay C

Yep. It’s fucking vile.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:17:22am

WTF

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:17:23am

I wonder if Trump will still be immune to Twitter policies after he leaves office?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:17:56am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

Queasy Rider

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:20:16am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

Sleazy Riders!

Honestly what the F is McNaughton ingesting to have such fucked up delusions?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:21:14am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:21:54am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Queasy Rider

Sleazy Rider

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:22:12am

Do you know what you don’t see any of in that picture? Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:22:27am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

Lol. McNaughton is no different from the Soviet propagandists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:23:19am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:24:20am

etsy.com

How’s this different from what McNaughton draws?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:28:18am
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danarchy  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:31:00am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

etsy.com

How’s this different from what McNaughton draws?

Stalin actually gave speeches in front of cheering crowds. Trump and Melania have never been on a motorcycle together.

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:31:02am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

Is it me, or is this dude trying to re-write history by putting Poppy and Babs look-alikes on the right there?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:31:57am

Time for a smart local reporter to start watching air traffic at Pope AFB/Ft Bragg.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:32:29am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

etsy.com

How’s this different from what McNaughton draws?

He forgot to draw the training wheels on the motorcycle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:36:22am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:37:11am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

Hot Damn! Just noticed Kanye’s in the picture!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:37:33am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:38:47am

re: #225 makeitstop

Is it me, or is this dude trying to re-write history by putting Poppy and Babs look-alikes on the right there?

Could be…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:40:16am

re: #224 danarchy

Stalin actually gave speeches in front of cheering crowds. Trump and Melania have never been on a motorcycle together.

Ha. True.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:40:55am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:42:22am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wait till you them that Leonardo liked dudes.

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retired cynic  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:42:55am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

Oh, put him on a nice big hog and give him a push.

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makeitstop  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:44:47am

re: #235 retired cynic

Oh, put him on a nice big hog and give him a push.

I vote for putting him on a wild boar.

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retired cynic  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:47:07am
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DangerMan  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:49:17am

re: #202 makeitstop

Just saw this on a guitar forum I belong to…

[Embedded content]

brilliant like a pet rock

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DangerMan  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:51:08am

re: #213 I Would Prefer Not To

WTF

[Embedded content]

riding with that flag would likely not work out the way he hopes

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Stanley Sea  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:51:18am

re: #225 makeitstop

Is it me, or is this dude trying to re-write history by putting Poppy and Babs look-alikes on the right there?

Kanye & Kim on the left.

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:52:18am

A pretty good diary on the appeal of Biden, especially among African Americans: dailykos.com. I thought this was an important two paragraphs:

I was also struck by the comments in the NYT article from Nasya Jenkins, 21, who was asked about the Anita Hill question. “I’m not really so caught up on what happened in the past,” Ms. Jenkins said. “We’re here now, with all the problems we have. What do you plan on doing to change that — period?”

Obviously, Biden is only starting to roll out the “what will you do?” part of his campaign — advocating for a $15/hr minimum wage and Medicare as a public option in his kickoff speech yesterday — but while so many of the candidates attractive to Kossacks are fighting over the Who’s Most Progressive banner, Biden is “targeting a swath of voters — including older, less educated and less liberal Democrats — who are often ignored by other candidates chasing younger voters more in keeping with the leftward energy in the party.”

I personally believe we should be bold, but I only get one vote.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:57:50am

Coup in Venezuela. What are the odds we are not instigators again?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 30, 2019 • 9:59:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:00:43am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

I ran all night and day…I couldn’t get away.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:01:36am

re: #242 Unshaken Defiance

Coup in Venezuela. What are the odds we are not instigators again?

Of that, there’s no doubt.

Whether it succeeds or not remains to be seen. If Guaido ends up in Miami by Thursday morning, proclaiming himself to be the “President-in-Exile”, then it’ll have obviously failed miserably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:07:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:07:34am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

So you think it will end with Trump and Maduro sharing a photo op at the White House?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:09:49am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

So you think it will end with Trump and Maduro sharing a photo op at the White House?

Heh, who knows? But now I see Rick Scott is openly calling for direct US military intervention in Venezuela - and I have a bad feeling that any open US military support will be viewed by a good many Venezuelans as nothing less than typical US imperialism and any pretensions of legitimacy that Guadio might claim will go straight down the damn toilet.

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:12:03am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

Imgur

Dammit. Didn’t woik.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:15:44am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

I for one welcome our new Seagull overlords.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:18:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:20:55am
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lawhawk  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:27:33am

re: #242 Unshaken Defiance

Coup in Venezuela. What are the odds we are not instigators again?

That’s what Maduro will say to terminate it, and anyone involved in it - that they are foreign interventionists backed by the US against the sovereign Venezuelans.

It strengthens Maduro’s hand, regardless of the veracity.

The coup plotters and backers could all be Venezuelans and have nothing to do with the US, but Maduro can claim that they are, pointing to Scott’s statements as proof that we’re backing Maduro’s enemies.

Nothing good will come of this.

Maduro has to go, but this complicates matters further.

254
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:28:30am

“we have 1,800 ISIS Prisoners taken hostage…”

We have HOSTAGES!!!

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:29:09am

Coming up in 30 minutes, another presentation by one of the fast risers on atheist Youtube:

5 Biblical Events that Just DID NOT HAPPEN

I don’t expect it to be, shall we say, scholarly, but Jimmy can be entertaining.

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jaunte  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:29:23am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s getting the families seeking asylum confused with ISIS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:30:07am

re: #256 jaunte

He’s getting the families seeking asylum confused with ISIS.

they’re all brown…

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:30:27am

re: #253 lawhawk

I have a feeling this is gonna go down in the history books as yet another example of a “bungled coup d’etat”. That having been said, it’s still a bit too early to tell.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:31:14am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Also: I noted that the Spokane Spokesman-Review (source of the article) only refers to Martin Sellner as an “Austrian nationalist”, and skirts any issues of exactly what sort of policies his group espouses. Must be that “liberal press” again….

So if he gets in to marry his “alt-right YouTube pundit” girlfriend, does make him an “anchor Nazi”???

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:35:57am

i counted six back of the pack Average White Band guys officially running for the democratic nomination, including swallwell, ryan, & hickenlooper

unless they break out in the debates, they are effectively star trek redshirts

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lawhawk  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:38:55am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable.

He thinks taking POWs is the same as hostages?

So, he’s actually encouraging IS to take hostages or carry out attacks to secure the release of these prisoners? What exactly is the mindset here, because I’m staring into the abyss of a black hole of dumbfuckery. There’s so much bulkshit in those statements by Trump that it defies description.

He’s going to dump these prisoners on our allies because they aren’t doing enough? He’s going to do what exactly? He doesn’t have a clue, only empty threats.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:43:39am

Why in the name of Dog are there no charges filed against Jacob Wohl? This shit has to be against the law, right?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:45:24am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Why in the name of Dog are there no charges filed against Jacob Wohl? This shit has to be against the law, right?

I’m suspecting he has powerful friends in powerful places.

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Belafon  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:53:45am

re: #260 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i counted six back of the pack Average White Band guys officially running for the democratic nomination, including swallwell, ryan, & hickenlooper

unless they break out in the debates, they are effectively star trek redshirts

I think that about half of the field will drop out before the first debate. Everyone except Gabbard, who will need to have her funding sources checked.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 30, 2019 • 10:54:35am

re: #22 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

god damn it
it is hard to express how much I hate this shit, that little kids like her have to know this.
Bad news the gunhumpers, NRA, etc. though - kids who have been under actual fire are not going to be scared or intimidated by your bullshit and bullying. How the fuck are you assholes going to scare or cow kids who saw their friends die?
Fuck you, NRA and every “leader” who does your bidding.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 30, 2019 • 11:21:38am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 30, 2019 • 11:29:22am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

“we have 1,800 ISIS Prisoners taken hostage…”

We have HOSTAGES!!!

Well, in 2015 Egyptian cleric Ahmed al-Tayeb suggested that captured ISIS operatives be crucified or have their arms chopped off. Maybe I shouldn’t remind Trump of this, if he ever heard of it in the first place.

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Old Liberal  Apr 30, 2019 • 8:23:00pm

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

Heh, who knows? But now I see Rick Scott is openly calling for direct US military intervention in Venezuela - and I have a bad feeling that any open US military support will be viewed by a good many Venezuelans as nothing less than typical US imperialism and any pretensions of legitimacy that Guadio might claim will go straight down the damn toilet.

What the fuck does Skeletor Scott know about Venezuela?


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