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jaunte  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:10:52am

Federal judge: Let doctors into child migrant detention centers, quickly
cnn.com

“…Gee, who sits on the federal bench in California, made the ruling Friday, despite Attorney General William Barr and other defendants’ request that the court “set a schedule for briefing these issues that provides defendants with a full and fair opportunity to respond to the allegations that plaintiffs have lodged against them.”
Gee set a deadline of July 12 for the parties to “file a joint status report regarding their mediation efforts and what has been done to address post haste the conditions described.”
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“The Court has already issued several orders that have set forth in detail what it considers to be violations of the Flores Agreement,” Gee wrote in her Friday ruling. “Thus, the parties need not use divining tools to extrapolate from those orders what does or does not constitute non-compliance. The Court has made that clear beyond peradventure.”

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:13:16am

Judge Gee very politely telling the government to stop fucking around.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:14:15am

agreed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:14:51am

re: #2 jaunte

Let’s hope that works.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:20:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:23:42am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:23:51am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

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The arguably best ice cream in the arguably best ice cream shop in the world is based on rice.
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plansbandc  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:27:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:27:15am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:27:52am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the GOP became convinced they had to become Muslims to retain power they’d be shouting “Allah Akbar” on all the Sunday morning programs within days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:32:47am

re: #2 jaunte

Judge Gee very politely telling the government to stop fucking around.

Narrator: But they’ll keep fucking around anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:38:05am

LOL

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:54:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:56:44am

Funny how conservatives praise the concept of working hard and bettering oneself and getting ahead in life but pile on AOC for having worked as a bartender.

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:56:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:56:52am

re: #13 jaunte

Again AOC is correct. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:57:43am

re: #15 jaunte

It’s gonna get really hard for Piers to get a drink.

He’s more the kind of guy who goes and buys a bottle and drinks it at home alone…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 30, 2019 • 11:59:20am

re: #10 Feline Fearless Leader

s /Sunday/Friday/

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jaunte  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:02:02pm

Note that Piers Morgan could find nothing to say to defend bringing Ivanka to a diplomatic event where she was a net minus for the U.S.

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Skip Intro  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:02:17pm

re: #3 I Would Prefer Not To

agreed.

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And being a Trump she’s completely clueless about what an embarrassment she is.

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mmmirele  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:11:40pm

The cult that I picket has a podcast called “Cultish”, where they talk about cults and why these cults are so wrong. It should not surprise you in the least that their only standard for judgment is “Do they match up with our belief system?” Not “are they abusing people? hoovering money out of their wallets? teaching them crazy shit that has real world consequences?” Nope, it’s “are they Calvinist like me?”

Some weeks back they interviewed a woman who left the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry in Redding, California because she’d been converted over to Calvinism. So they did three podcasts with this woman talking about how Bethel is so, so wrong according to their interpretation of the Bible. One guy came by the “Cultish” YouTube page and left this:

Anyway, I regularly check this FB and post there. So I posted and pointed out that yeah, the guy is right. Their only criteria for “is it a cult?” is “does it match with our doctrine?” I proceeded to talk about Steven Hassan’s “Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotional control” (or BITE) model and leave links to it. (Yes, I did do this four times.) freedomofmind.com

That was OK…until I posted a link to Robert Jay LIfton’s “Eight Criteria for Thought Reform.” Then I got blocked from posting and ALL of my posts were removed.

So I thought I’d bring the “Eight Criteria for Thought Reform” to them. I’m not going to hold these on a sign. Nope, I’m going to park my SUV in front of the church and tape these to the windows. Because I’m mean like that. (Never thought my SUV would serve another purpose besides chaperoning my mother places.)

I will be holding signs calling them out as a cult, and will somehow manage to wedge in a sign or two that their newly installed pastor/elder is a stone racist. I’m also making plans to be out there for the entire time they’re in church (something like 3 hours). Most of the time will be in the SUV, where I’ll turn on the A/C at times and drink water from a cooler. But when they’re entering or leaving, I’m going to be in front of them.

Don’t mess with me, I’ve been doing this for decades. Legally.

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Citizen K  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:18:06pm

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny how conservatives praise the concept of working hard and bettering oneself and getting ahead in life but pile on AOC for having worked as a bartender.

It’s because they don’t actually believe the praise of the working class. They just use them as a bludgeon against their enemies and the policies they despise. Just like they use the poor and veterans as bludgeons against immigrants. Just like they use mental health concerns as a bludgeon against gun control. Just like they use religion as a bludgeon against abortion and women’s health in general.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:26:55pm

re: #22 Citizen K

It’s because they don’t actually believe the praise of the working class. They just use them as a bludgeon against their enemies and the policies they despise. Just like they use the poor and veterans as bludgeons against immigrants. Just like they use mental health concerns as a bludgeon against gun control. Just like they use religion as a bludgeon against abortion and women’s health in general.

and although they could have pointed to Obama as proof of the Conservative American Dream that anybody who studies and works hard enough - regardless of race or origin -can aspire to the highest offices in the land, they dismissed him as a charlatan, a Kenyan, an affirmative action poster child and as The Antichrist.

Anything but acknowledge his achievements, even grudgingly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:32:30pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Republicans don’t care about imprisoned Christians in North Korea and neither do American Xtians!

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Citizen K  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:33:53pm

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and although they could have pointed to Obama as proof of the Conservative American Dream that anybody who studies and works hard enough - regardless of race or origin -can aspire to the highest offices in the land, they dismissed him as a charlatan, a Kenyan, an affirmative action poster child and as The Antichrist.

Anything but acknowledge his achievements, even grudgingly.

That’s because, again, they don’t really believe that shit. They don’t really believe that anyone who studies and works hard enough can aspire to high office because they believe that not everyone SHOULD. They believe it should be only the province of them, the god given true rulers of this country forever and anon. Folks like Obama, Clinton, et. al. aren’t proof of their ideals, they’re usurpers, folks encroaching on THEIR personal fiefdom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:37:19pm
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sagehen  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:38:35pm

re: #13 jaunte

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They like to harp on her tending bar; they never mention her education.

from wikipedia:

Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007. She came in second in the Microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematode C. elegans. In a show of appreciation for her efforts, the MIT Lincoln Laboratory named a small asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez.

And she graduated cum laude from BU, with a double major in IR and Econ.

Kind of sad that bartending pays better than the kinds of jobs where that degree is a qualification.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:43:02pm

re: #27 sagehen

True. One of my co-workers needed health insurance for her children. She complained that she was not making what her bartending brought in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:44:06pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:47:25pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Beyond that, it says a lot about the value and meaning of science.

These ancient cultures could well have had a lot of technological achievements, but they had no means of recording, sharing and building on their cumulative acquired knowledge.

That is one of the most important things that science gave us.

And without those structures, I am sure that a lot of this knowledge was lost and left only traces and hints of what they achieved or could have achieved.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:55:03pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

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The racist underpinning of “Ancient Astronauts” claims has been one of my themes for over 30 years. Stonehenge was built at roughly the same time as the Great Pyramids. There are few if any claims of alien origin for it. Nobody claims aliens built Notre Dame, which was built at the same time as the “magical” and “mysterious” Inca stonework that features in so many woo claims. The latter are usually linked to advertising for self help metaphysics or scientifically dubious health care products, for some reason. The quacks might claim that Notre Dame is not credited to aliens because we have comprehensive written records of the society that constructed it. That is no barrier to many other woo claims, though. Remember that we have pretty good records of the society that ran Roswell Army Air Force Base in 1947, but those records have been buried under a mountain of commercial hucksterism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2019 • 12:56:43pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Remember that we have pretty good records of the society that ran Roswell Army Air Force Base in 1947, but those records have been buried under a mountain of commercial hucksterism.

I think that the Air Force was happy to go along with the alien stuff to keep people distracted from what they were really up to, which was testing and further developing equipment that we had confiscated from Nazi Germany…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:03:42pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The racist underpinning of “Ancient Astronauts” claims has been one of my themes for over 30 years. Stonehenge was built at roughly the same time as the Great Pyramids. There are few if any claims of alien origin for it……

That is no barrier to many other woo claims, though. Remember that we have pretty good records of the society that ran Roswell Army Air Force Base in 1947, but those records have been buried under a mountain of commercial hucksterism.

Of course, the Roswell stories don’t have any racist underpinnings. All of these stories may arise because of a desperation to believe that we are not alone in the universe and that the stories of alien origin/alien contact provide comfort.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:27:52pm

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that the Air Force was happy to go along with the alien stuff to keep people distracted from what they were really up to, which was testing and further developing equipment that we had confiscated from Nazi Germany…

The Nazis had nothing to do with the surveillance balloon project that was the real back story at Roswell. Other things the Nazis did not invent:
Liquid fuel rocket (Goddard US, 1926)
Gimballed rocket motor (also Goddard, 1936. Von Braun and his team were aware of this innovation but were never able to use it.)
Hypergolic (self-igniting) rocket propellants (JPL, US, 1942)
Submarine snorkel (Netherlands Navy, 1939)
Turbojet engine (Whittle, UK, 1929)
Cavity magnetron, which was crucial for high resolution radar (UK, 1940)
Proximity fuse (US Navy, 1942) This would have made a huge difference to German air defenses in 1943-45.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:30:55pm

re: #33 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, the Roswell stories don’t have any racist underpinnings. All of these stories may arise because of a desperation to believe that we are not alone in the universe and that the stories of alien origin/alien contact provide comfort.

My point is that the existence of written records is not what prevents certain achievements from being credited to aliens.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:31:29pm

re: #33 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, the Roswell stories don’t have any racist underpinnings. All of these stories may arise because of a desperation to believe that we are not alone in the universe and that the stories of alien origin/alien contact provide comfort.

If the aliens ever show up with quasi-magical tech, we are going to be the easily-subjugated savages.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:33:49pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If the aliens ever show up with quasi-magical tech, we are going to be the easily-subjugated savages.

They won’t bother. We are subjugating ourselves just fine without their help.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:38:13pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If the aliens ever show up with quasi-magical tech, we are going to be the easily-subjugated savages.

If aliens ever want to show up all they have to do is play the Revelations card and there will be enough suckers to fall for it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:46:15pm

Speaking of aliens and UFOs, I have noticed an upsurge of interest in this on the political right, especially out in flyover country as opposed to national GOP thought-leaders like Limbaugh and Alex Jones.
In Lubbock, for example, RWNJ radio host Robert Pratt has taken to prattling about alien visitation and UFOs almost as much as he vilifies AOC and Jussie (still a major devil in RW demonology).
Former Democratic chair turned libertarian nut-bar Todd Klein has also joined the Ufologists, with frequent allusions to Roswell especially.
Pratt, btw, is the one who refers to Bill De Blasio as a communist as casually as though De Blasio were the actual candidate of the CPUSA. Also taken for granted is the Marxist orientation of Clinton and Obama.
This seems odd at first glance, but it actually dovetails well with anti-government dogma, since Roswell happened under FDR acolyte Truman’s watch, and with anti-science agitation, since the notion of back-engineered alien tech denies Earth bound scientists credit for many of their achievements.

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ThomasLite  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:52:14pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

… the notion of back-engineered alien tech denies Earth bound scientists credit for many of their achievements.

And that’s where you see none of those yokels have much of an engineering background, to put it mildly. I mean, holy jesus batman on a pogo stick, reverse engineering complex tech is often not even all that much less of an involved, complex, bloody brilliant process than independent invention. And that’s not even getting into materials engineering issues (identifying what a substance *is* often doesn’t remotely tell you *how* it’s made, for starters) and pretty much everything to do with producing many complex, modern products.
I mean, you can have perfect knowledge of how modern integrated circuits work but it’s going to teach you precisely the sum of diddly and squat about the photolithography equipment used to make them.
…Yeah, I know, what was I expecting from those folks. Still, though. geesh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:53:41pm

Sheesh! Age can be blamed for everything. Every time I notice a typo in something I’ve written, I have a very brief impulse to worry that it might be attributable to my advanced age. Then I remember that I made the same kinds of errors when I was young. Then I feel bad at the lack of improvement over 50 years of practice.

Otoh, age can serve as a ready made excuse for practically anything. Every foul-up, slip-up, brain-fart, and dumb mistake can be blamed on age. When you’re 25, the reaction to such things is likely to be “WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? DID YOUR BRAINS FALL OUT?”
Now, at 70, it’s more like, “There, there, it’s all good. Here, sit by the fire and have some milk and cookies.”
I guess we’ve earned it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:56:11pm

I remember Erich Von Däniken pimping his Ancient Astronauts books in the early 70s. He even appeared on Carson’s show multiple times. Rod Serling even did a TV show about his claims.

Then when it came out he was involved in an embezzlement scheme and convicted he sure faded fast.

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:56:20pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sheesh!
Now, at 70, it’s more like, “There, there, it’s all good. Here, sit by the fire and have some milk and cookies chocolate and adult beverages.”
I guess we’ve earned it.

FTFY

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:58:52pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Now, at 70, it’s more like, “There, there, it’s all good. Here, sit by the fire and have some milk and cookies.”
I guess we’ve earned it.

18 months away from Medicare and counting. Only thing that gives me real pleasure anymore is a good up of coffee.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 1:59:58pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sheesh!
Now, at 70, it’s more like, “There, there, it’s all good. Here, sit by the fire and have some milk and cookies chocolate and adult beverages.”

I guess we’ve earned it. FTFY

An excellent suggestion. A shot of Famous Grouse in the milk might make the cookies even better. In fact, I might forgo the milk entirely.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:00:43pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

FTFY

I can’t have chocolate. The only adult beverages I can have are the aforementioned coffee and tea…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:06:06pm

Speaking of booze, it seems odd to me that Trump is a teetotaler. I guess it’s tokenism: There has to be at least one mortal sin that he does not habitually commit.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:11:13pm
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:11:25pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I can’t 100% explain it, but not drinking seems to be a common narcissist power move; like, the most basic way of standing out from a crowd and/or suggesting you’re a little smarter/healthier/in control. Seen it both in direct experience and with famous examples.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:11:29pm

Read this the other day at TPM. Excellent graphic description/graphic novel. Highly rec.

My stepdad worked with von braun in the early 60’s. Spoke of him like an idol.

forums.talkingpointsmemo.com

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:13:28pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:18:30pm

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

An excellent suggestion. A shot of Famous Grouse in the milk might make the cookies even better. In fact, I might forgo the milk entirely.

That’s my approach to rum cake.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:22:18pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Nobody claims that aliens built the Parthenon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:31:17pm

re: #53 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Nobody claims that aliens built the Parthenon.

Well, actually I have a kind of wild theory I’ve been working on…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:36:20pm

Very gratifying that Gene is still with us and will participate in the 50th anniversary. Many spaceflight buffs never realized that Gene, the boss of bosses during the flight, was actually younger than the 3 Apollo 11 astronauts.

Former NASA Flight Director Gene Kranz Restores Mission Control in Houston

Gene Kranz may be the most famous flight director in NASA’s history. He directed the actual landing portion of the first mission to put men on the moon, Apollo 11, and led Mission Control in saving the crew of Apollo 13 after an oxygen tank exploded on the way to the lunar surface.

Now Kranz, 85, has completed another undertaking: the reopening of Mission Control at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

The room where Kranz directed some of NASA’s most historic missions, heralding U.S. exploration of space, was decommissioned in 1992. Since then, it had become a stop on guided tours of the space center, but fallen into disrepair. Kranz has led a $5 million dollar, multi-year effort to restore Mission Control in time for the 50th anniversary of the first moon landing on July 20.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:43:15pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of booze, it seems odd to me that Trump is a teetotaler. I guess it’s tokenism: There has to be at least one mortal sin that he does not habitually commit.

He acts drunk all the time tho

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:46:01pm

There’s just something so cool seeing a baseball game being played in London….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 2:50:56pm

trump in the dmz…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:00:56pm

Grist for the conspiracy mill:

Joe Biden was born on the very day that allied forces captured Benghazi in World War II.
November 20, 1942
Yes, the same Benghazi. There are no coincidences!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:03:05pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:07:25pm

John Logie Baird, inventor of the first workable television system, died on the very day that noted reality television star Donald Trump was born.
June 14, 1946

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:10:45pm

*snerk*

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:11:59pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of booze, it seems odd to me that Trump is a teetotaler. I guess it’s tokenism: There has to be at least one mortal sin that he does not habitually commit.

His older brother was an alcoholic who died young; Donald was Son #2, and not drinking is why Fred took him into the business as heir apparent.

It’s always about money for this yutz.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:20:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:22:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:29:38pm

I swear, the two are lumbering toward each other…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:30:47pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, it looks like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:31:18pm

re: #67 PhillyPretzel

Yes, it looks like that.

a couple of ancient bull elephants on their last legs…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:32:23pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

US wrestling legend Ric Flair faced Japanese wrestling legend Antonio Inoki, in North Korea in 1995.

That was a bigger event.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:38:13pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:40:10pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

a couple of ancient bull elephants on their last legs…

With tiny trunks….there must have been an accident.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:40:56pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

And locally former City Councilman Frank Rizzo Jr (Frannie) was a lineman for PECO. There are all types of people with all types of jobs who end up in politics.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:45:46pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:49:40pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:50:48pm

She just creeps me out.

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Skip Intro  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:54:39pm

The media is well trained now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 30, 2019 • 3:55:34pm

(From downstairs)
re: #291 Feline Fearless Leader

You’d probably need to look for a town/city with a decent college in it which might also supply a bit of a liberal bastion to make the area more tolerable.

When my mother moved back east for Oregon in the mid-90s she picked Meadville, PA to look for an apartment in. Was equidistant to people see wanted to visit, had a decent college in it (Allegheny) and was a bit of a cultural center for that area of northwest PA. And was close enough to Pittsburgh that she could drive down and use the airport there for travel. (Though she usually came down and stayed with me the night before traveling since I could give her a ride into downtown where she could get a shuttle to the airport.)

Holy Crap! MEADVILLE? That’s where I went to college, where my Mom and one sister went to college, where Mrs. FBW and I met and she seduced me.

But, I can tell you from personal experience, it’s COLD!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:00:09pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:00:41pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

I swear, the two are lumbering toward each other…

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Donald’s jacket is buttoned & his tie is tucked inside his pants.

What made him do that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:01:50pm

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Donald’s jacket is buttoned & his tie is tucked inside his pants.

What made him do that?

tie caught in his zipper because he couldn’t see below his gut

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wrenchwench  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:02:19pm

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

Donald’s jacket is buttoned & his tie is tucked inside his pants.

What made him do that?

Sunburn?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:06:23pm

Went for a nice ride today. It was a beautiful day for it, especially if I’d started an hour earlier so Cañada Road northbound wasn’t a slog into a headwind!

Two things happened. First, I heard THE LOUDEST FREEWHEEL EVER! Coasting downhill with that guy behind me sounded like being chased by bees!

Second, I passed a younger woman (younger than me, anyway.) Southbound on Cañada on a slight decline, who was going about 2 mph slower than me. A mile later, on an incline, she passed me, going about 2 mph faster.

I thought, “That’s okay. She’s younger and she has stronger legs.”

She gained about 50 yards on me before the crest. On the downhill again, without even pedaling, I quickly re-closed the gap.

I thought, “That’s okay. I’m fatter and I have better hubs.”

Then for the next mile and a half which is mostly flat, she was about 5 yards ahead of me, going almost exactly the same speed I wanted to go. I did everything I could to make sure I wasn’t slipstreaming her, but we were just rolling along in tandem. Finally I decided that I’d better pass her or she’d think I was just a Dirty Old Man!

It’s rare to find another cyclist who wants to go the same speed. It’s annoying if it’s an attractive woman and she’s right in front of you and you’re trying not to be creepy, but you also don’t want to seem to be a macho asshole who can’t stand being passed by a GURL!

Anyway, I hope she wasn’t creeped out. I’m a nice guy, really!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:08:54pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:14:05pm

September 2017

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:16:50pm

Photo break? Sorry to just jump in. Ran out for one of my “gee shoot myself or go shoot pretty pics?” stress reliever road trips. Okay I overstate. Sanity Maintenance if you will.
Cleveland National Forst, east of San Diego environs. The first eight are from today, the next few are a trip I made a couple of years ago.

Flickr

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:17:57pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:18:07pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:18:21pm

re: #73 Scottish Dragon

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The “NeverTrump” crowd is again lecturing us on how we need to take to the right if we want to win? Ho-fucking-hum.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:19:45pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m so old, I remember when he swore up and down that his kids would have no part in his administration…before he ordered that they be given security clearances, let them sit in on briefings, tag along on foreign junkets, etc, etc…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:20:37pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Evangelical Outreach
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:21:13pm

re: #87 Scottish Dragon

$750 a day? Gee. That is close to my mortgage payment a month.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:21:24pm

Later, that same ride….

Manzanita Road, a quiet backroad between Sand Hill and Woodside. 2 miles, and I think I saw 2 cars. Usually, there are fewer.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:21:25pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

The “NeverTrump” crowd is again lecturing us on how we need to take to the right if we want to win? Ho-fucking-hum.

I don’t need to hear another goddamned thing from Max Boot, Bret Stephens, David Frum and David Brooks. Oh, and Tom Nichols too.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:22:31pm

re: #91 PhillyPretzel

That’s one month’s rent for me.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:23:50pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:26:42pm

re: #73 Scottish Dragon

I saw that Frum tweet this morning.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:28:22pm

Apparently international diplomacy is no longer about years of careful negotiations and iron-clad treaties, but instead publicity stunts that accomplish little but help the media sell their “reality TV” narrative.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:30:38pm

I’m thinking I better be more careful of what I say on Twitter. Sucks, but I’m actually a wee bit more paranoid now because Alouette, gocart mozart, and nines09 all have had their primary accounts deep sixed for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:32:13pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

I’m thinking I better be more careful of what I say on Twitter. Sucks, but I’m actually a wee bit more paranoid now because Alouette, gocart mozart, and nines09 all have had their primary accounts deep sixed for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

Just spout neo-nazi rhetoric and tweet veiled threats at lefties. You’ll be fine.
//

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:32:28pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

I just don’t regret walking away from that platform

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:32:46pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

I’m thinking I better be more careful of what I say on Twitter. Sucks, but I’m actually a wee bit more paranoid now because Alouette, gocart mozart, and nines09 all have had their primary accounts deep sixed for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

For me, it was no reason.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:33:42pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

I’m thinking I better be more careful of what I say on Twitter. Sucks, but I’m actually a wee bit more paranoid now because Alouette, gocart mozart, and nines09 all have had their primary accounts deep sixed for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

Like this.

Does that violate TOS? It appears not, ‘cause I still have an account. Still, my stridency will probably have to be dialed back. I don’t want to lose my followers.

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Old Liberal  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:34:59pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t think you can call North Korean concentration camps “concentration camps”.

How about “congregations” if they are christian?

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:36:10pm

re: #103 Old Liberal

I don’t think you can call North Korean concentration camps “concentration camps”.

How about “congregations” if they are christian?

Forced congregations would really appeal to evangelicals.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:42:40pm

So I see that Kamala Harris is now being fully attacked for “supporting Israel”.

This is going to be difficult thing for Democrats: finding someone who can pass all the purity tests.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:44:40pm

My flame, my muse… be still my heart… ❤️

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:46:39pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

AOC is on target. She is absolutely right.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:52:22pm

From today’s Okeanos Explorer dive, a cute little octopus sitting on its legs all puppy like:

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:54:35pm

Four feet of hail.

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Old Liberal  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:56:23pm

re: #109 Belafon

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Four feet of hail.

“We’ve always had hail”..

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:56:24pm

And here is the ice is in river form:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 30, 2019 • 4:56:46pm

re: #109 Belafon

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Four feet of hail.

What the…..?

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:00:12pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:02:35pm

Oh no.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:03:25pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:07:34pm

It boggles me… that if the only acceptable Democratic candidate for President has to be one that comes out in opposition to Israel (and not just a particularly onerous policy of the current Israeli government)… that people believe such a candidate can be elected in the US in 2019.

I’m hardly a Zionist myself, but in the era of Trump where American policy is to torment children and families, and to destroy the essential safety nets in our society, and to reinstate segregationist policies and to curtail voting rights… I really don’t care about minor but intractable international conflicts.

I fear that narrow ideological campaigns will become a tripping point for the Democratic party, when the big picture demands we look at the health of American society and politics as a whole.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:09:21pm

…oops

Maybe this will work:

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TedStriker  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:09:23pm

re: #109 Belafon

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Four feet of hail.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:12:34pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Good grief.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:14:05pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

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My flame, my muse… be still my heart… ❤️

She worked her way up. The GOP leadership is full of men and women who got to where they got to by inheritance. That and her ethnic background and seeing through their economic bs is why they hate her.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:14:32pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“I’m not a relativist..”

Yes, yes you are Tucker. That is exactly what you are.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:15:16pm

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“I’m not a relativist..”

Yes, yes you are Tucker. That is exactly what you are.

He’s a hack.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:18:10pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Decades of doing business with genocidal dictators taken to its logical conclusion.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:18:25pm

Been a rough river season so far. Eight people have died this season.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:21:43pm

Local GOP grifter Hunter-the-Lesser is taking the Trumpian defense:

Duncan Hunter defends campaign spending on affairs with staffers, lobbyists as ‘overtly political’ outlay

Congressman Duncan Hunter’s defense lawyers Friday asked a judge to bar federal prosecutors from using evidence of infidelity in the criminal case against Hunter, who is accused of improperly spending $250,000 in campaign dollars on personal expenses.

Prosecutors recently filed motions alleging Hunter spent campaign donations on hotels, trips, meals and drinks to support extramarital affairs he had with at least five women.

[…]

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:23:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:26:33pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:27:20pm

re: #126 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Local GOP grifter Hunter-the-Lesser is taking the Trumpian defense:

Duncan Hunter defends campaign spending on affairs with staffers, lobbyists as ‘overtly political’ outlay

Duncan’s argument in this motion basically boiling down to “When I fucked those women, it was for purely political reasons! I would never have an affair for personal pleasure!”

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:27:41pm

re: #73 Scottish Dragon

That’s awfully white of him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:30:07pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:31:52pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Happy B’day Dame Olivia.
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:34:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:36:14pm
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mmmirele  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:36:16pm

re: #109 Belafon

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Four feet of hail.

I thought this was crazy and couldn’t be true, but I went and found a report from a reputable news outlet (Agence France Presse): france24.com

And then this video:

Azota granizada en Guadalajara

This is unheard of.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:39:13pm

Why am I just now seeing this? Watch for a delightful pick-me-up!

Christopher Walken Dance Now Huffington Post (ORIGINAL)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:40:34pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Iwo Jima flag raising.

At the Berlin Wall falling

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:47:12pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

She just creeps me out.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:48:07pm

re: #135 mmmirele

I thought this was crazy and couldn’t be true, but I went and found a report from a reputable news outlet (Agence France Presse): france24.com

And then this video:

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This is unheard of.

Certainly reminiscent of “The Day after Tomorrow” — except Mexico was fine but everything north of that latitude was experiencing the environmental catastrophe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:48:43pm
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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:52:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:53:12pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow!! I didn’t know she was still alive. It’s hard to believe that someone who acted in Gone With the Wind is still with us.

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:54:27pm

Just ignore his name. The comment is the important part:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:55:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:56:30pm
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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:56:39pm

The last one is just pretending to be Ross’s interpreter.

(all of these stolen from balloon-juice.com)

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 5:59:20pm

18 months to the election and the “NeverTrump” crowd is playing the same tune they play every 2 years: “WHY AREN’T DEMOCRATS DOING MORE TO MAKE ME HAPPY!?”

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:01:20pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Right now @MSNBC live NBC Korea expert Victor Cha says meeting Kim at DMZ is like having the Super Bowl when you haven’t played a single game. This meeting should be at the end of successful talks not when there’s been no progress

Nothing will ever happen:

-trump:. Give up your nukes
-kim:. I’m never gonna give up my nukes

What “successful” talks are possible with these two?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:02:25pm

re: #143 Belafon

Just ignore his name. The comment is the important part:

I’m offering them the back of my hand. If we can get out the vote and mobilize the formerly apathetic, we don’t need to convert a single Trump dupe. We may be able to chisel off a few of the genuinely penitent around the edges but that’s it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:02:32pm

re: #105 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So I see that Kamala Harris is now being fully attacked for “supporting Israel”.

This is going to be difficult thing for Democrats: finding someone who can pass all the purity tests.

As if she’s the only Democratic candidate who supports Israel. What nonsense.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:03:16pm

Not an oldie
Still a goodie

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:04:00pm

I wanna ask the “NeverTrump” crowd about how successful their predictions this time last year that the Repubs would ride to victory in November due to the Trump Tax Cuts turned out to be. Or their insistence in 2012 that Obama needed to “reach out” to them if he wanted to win reelection. Or that he had to win over the “PUMA” crowd to win in 2008?

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:05:33pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m offering them the back of my hand. If we can get out the vote and mobilize the formerly apathetic, we don’t need to convert a single Trump dupe. We may be able to chisel off a few of the genuinely penitent around the edges but that’s it.

That’s my take. A nominee that will inspire Democrats to turn out to vote will do far better than one who tries to pull in Trump Republicans, because they. will. not. turn.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:05:47pm

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

As if she’s the only Democratic candidate who supports Israel. What nonsense.

Some academic leftists appear to have a problem with the Democratic candidates, more some than others.

I think that the ivory tower syndrome is real.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:06:44pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

18 months to the election and the “NeverTrump” crowd is playing the same tune they play every 2 years: “WHY AREN’T DEMOCRATS DOING MORE TO MAKE ME HAPPY!?”

As 147 suggests
It’s your conscience
Take some fucking personal responsibility
Stop blaming others for how you “feel”

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:08:35pm

I imagine that if asked, the “NeverTrump” crowd would give the same response that Hickenlooper did the other night, that of a mumbling excuse-making stream about how the Dems need to avoid “socialism” if they want to win. They can’t name a policy that they actually think Dems should run on, because they’d find themselves so in agreement with Trump that the whole “Oh, we’re nothing like him!” BS would crumble around their fucking ears.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:08:59pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m offering them the back of my hand. If we can get out the vote and mobilize the formerly apathetic, we don’t need to convert a single Trump dupe. We may be able to chisel off a few of the genuinely penitent around the edges but that’s it.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:10:28pm

re: #153 Belafon

That’s my take. A nominee that will inspire Democrats to turn out to vote will do far better than one who tries to pull in Trump Republicans, because they. will. not. turn.

When Democrats vote Democrats win

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:12:45pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

I imagine that if asked, the “NeverTrump” crowd would give the same response that Hickenlooper did the other night, that of a mumbling excuse-making stream about how the Dems need to avoid “socialism” if they want to win. They can’t name a policy that they actually think Dems should run on, because they’d find themselves so in agreement with Trump that the whole “Oh, we’re nothing like him!” BS would crumble around their fucking ears.

Rule 1: don’t vote for trump
If you don’t vote for trump the Democrats will win

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:12:58pm

I’m a simple man.

All I want out of a President is someone who :

- won’t bankrupt my retirement account;
- will fight the explosion in medical costs so I won’t die because I can’t afford to go the hospital;
- won’t start a war;
- doesn’t make graft and corruption into some sort of honor;
- won’t try to take away voting rights;
- won’t make cruelty the basis for how we treat migrants.

Please don’t burden me with all the hobby issues of conflicts around the world, that become fashionable for a season in some society circle.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:13:13pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:14:19pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m offering them the back of my hand. If we can get out the vote and mobilize the formerly apathetic, we don’t need to convert a single Trump dupe. We may be able to chisel off a few of the genuinely penitent around the edges but that’s it.

20,000 votes. 20,000.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:15:33pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:17:34pm
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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:17:41pm

My wife caught a story about a Native American cartoonist in New Mexico named Ricardo Cate. This is a cartoon by him:

Facebook Post

My wife showed me some funny ones but she’s much better at google than me.

Edited

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:17:50pm

Dems ran in 2018 on preserving and expanding the ACA. The “NeverTrump” crowd declared that suicidal, that the ACA was so unpopular that the Dems would lose votes over it.

Dems ran in 2018 on turning back the Trump Tax Cuts and raising taxes on the rich. The “NeverTrump” crowd insisted those Cuts were secretly very popular and that the Dems would lose votes for supporting tax increases.

Dems ran in 2018 on gun control and tackling gun violence. The “NeverTrump” crowd wrote long rants about how both were wildly outside the “mainstream” and would send voters screaming into the arms of Republicans.

I could go on and on, but the reality is the Dems ran on a progressive set of policies and stances not even a year ago, to the disapproval and dire predictions of the “NeverTrump” pundits. They did the same the year prior in VA, running a slate of progressive candidates to the disbelief of the “NeverTrump” crowd who insisted that his brand of “populism” made such a strategy totally untenable.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:18:56pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:19:58pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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They had the same mutual masturbation session after that first “summit.” And the “agreement” to meet face-to-face prior to that. The press truly are acting like this is one massive reality TV show.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:23:52pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

(From downstairs)

Holy Crap! MEADVILLE? That’s where I went to college, where my Mom and one sister went to college, where Mrs. FBW and I met and she seduced me.

But, I can tell you from personal experience, it’s COLD!!!!

My family is generally fine with colder weather - especially if it helps keep and hold snow. Entire family is cross-country skiers. (Though I haven’t been out for years since Philly area doesn’t keep snow well.)

As for Allegheny, my brother went there for his undergraduate degree as well. It was my second choice after Pitt, but I could go to engineering school at the latter.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:24:19pm

re: #143 Belafon

WSJ Editorial Page

Democrats march in lockstep with the left. What are they offering voters who backed Trump in 2016?

Wait … Democrats are marching in lockstep? I thought they were in disarray!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:24:52pm

re: #15 jaunte

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As a resident of an island built on the service industry, and as someone who counts a disproportionately large number of bartenders and servers among my friends and neighbors: I heartily affirm that Piers should go fuck himself.

Talking shit about service people tells you all you need to know about his credibility.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:25:30pm

I just remembered that the “NeverTrump” crowd were all braying like sheep last October about how Donny staging a “confrontation” at the border over the caravan “invasion” put the Dems in a dire situation, that they had to either back his “enforcement of the law” or else look like they were supporting unrestricted immigration by “invaders.”

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:25:36pm

re: #170 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Wait … Democrats are marching in lockstep? I thought they were in disarray!

We’re in lockstep disarray. We are that good.

And really, since we are that good, we really should be governing.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:25:48pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

Dems ran in 2018 on preserving and expanding the ACA. The “NeverTrump” crowd declared that suicidal, that the ACA was so unpopular that the Dems would lose votes over it.

Dems ran in 2018 on turning back the Trump Tax Cuts and raising taxes on the rich. The “NeverTrump” crowd insisted those Cuts were secretly very popular and that the Dems would lose votes for supporting tax increases.

Dems ran in 2018 on gun control and tackling gun violence. The “NeverTrump” crowd wrote long rants about how both were wildly outside the “mainstream” and would send voters screaming into the arms of Republicans.

I could go on and on, but the reality is the Dems ran on a progressive set of policies and stances not even a year ago, to the disapproval and dire predictions of the “NeverTrump” pundits. They did the same the year prior in VA, running a slate of progressive candidates to the disbelief of the “NeverTrump” crowd who insisted that his brand of “populism” made such a strategy totally untenable.

It would help if the never trumpers simply never voted for trump

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:28:21pm

re: #174 DangerMan

It would help if the never trumpers simply never voted for trump

In the end, if they act like Navarro, who not only voted for Hillary, she pushed to get others to, that would be great. But yeah, just don’t vote for Trump if that’s the best you can do.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:30:09pm

re: #143 Belafon

Just ignore his name. The comment is the important part:

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Democrats march in lockstep with the left. What are they offering voters who backed Trump in 2016? on.wsj.com

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Sanity and Competence aren’t enough?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:31:31pm

re: #174 DangerMan

It would help if the never trumpers simply never voted for trump

It would help even more if they voted for the Democrat, no matter who is the nominee (although I will give them a pass if the nominee is Williamson). Many never Trumpers did not vote for Trump in 2016; so it’s preferable that they actually vote D.

What I cannot really understand is how so many GOP officials and columnists, who lambasted Obama for his inadequacy in dealing with Putin, have fallen in love with Putin. This switch leaves me dumbfounded.

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DangerMan  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:33:41pm

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

It would help even more if they voted for the Democrat, no matter who is the nominee (although I will give them a pass if the nominee is Williamson). Many never Trumpers did not vote for Trump in 2016; so it’s preferable that they actually vote D.

What I cannot really understand is how so many GOP officials and columnists, who lambasted Obama for his inadequacy in dealing with Putin, have fallen in love with Putin. This switch leaves me dumbfounded.

That’s actually what I meant
I didn’t express myself fully

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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:35:58pm

Alabama voting.

2012 Romney v Obama 60—38%
2016 Trump v Clinton 62—34
2017 Doug Jones v Moore 50—48
2018 Ivey (R) v Maddox (D) 59—40

One of these things is not like the others.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:40:45pm
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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:41:23pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Alabama voting.

2012 Romney v Obama 60—38%
2016 Trump v Clinton 62—34
2017 Doug Jones v Moore 50—48
2018 Ivey (R) v Maddox (D) 59—40

One of these things is not like the others.

If we could just figure out how to make Moore a metaphor for the GOP.

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:43:18pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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He really should have been Porker-Nid, but it doesn’t have the same flow.

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retired cynic  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:56:06pm

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:57:39pm

There was a convention of idiots on the M-10 freeway last night. I am glad I was not coming back from Canada.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 6:59:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:09:47pm

re: #181 Belafon

If we could just figure out how to make Moore a metaphor for the GOP.

He’s their second avatar in my mind, after Trump.

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retired cynic  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:13:41pm

re: #138 Joe Bacon 🌹

President Trump had a trilateral meeting with Prime Minister Modi and Prime Minister Abe, followed by a bilateral meeting with PM Modi. Here is the readout:

At least the twitter responses to the “readout” are good and on point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:14:12pm

re: #187 retired cynic

At least the twitter responses to the “readout” are good and on point.

They really are.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:15:02pm

This thread:

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:18:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:19:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:21:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:25:09pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody shoot me if I ever spend that much on a piece of clothing.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:26:34pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not the dress, the price, nor the wearer seem in any way exceptional.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:27:29pm

JFC CNN he’s still gonna just keep on calling you Fake News no matter how much you do ass kidding Fake News shit like this

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:29:27pm

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

JFC CNN he’s still gonna just keep on calling you Fake News no matter how much you do ass kidding Fake News shit like this

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Did she fuck any foreign leaders?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:31:33pm

More bullshit about “people crying”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:31:53pm

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka really is Donald’s minder. It’s so obvious.

But major corporate media editors are afraid to call out the obvious.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:32:36pm

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

More bullshit about “people crying”

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I’ll cry when he comes back.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:32:39pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:33:23pm

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

Narrator: Actually, the North Koreans who were crying had guns pointed at them at the time.

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plansbandc  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:39:46pm

re: #108 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Someone should do a black velvet painting of that fellow. He reminds me of those big eyed puppy “art” pieces.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2019 • 7:41:02pm

Something I wrote a few days ago while spending time down by the water:

Low Tide

It comes and it goes,
but why? I don’t know.
Just another little mystery
Of life I suppose.

It exposes and hides,
What nature keeps deep inside.
Sometimes it’s quite narrow,
others it stretches out wide.

It ebbs and it swoons,
By the will of the moon.
The old cosmic dance,
To a long ago tune.

It’s the unflappable motion,
from the heart of the ocean.
And to the grains of sand
Shows its quiet devotion.

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DangerMan  Jul 1, 2019 • 5:23:18am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If the aliens ever show up with quasi-magical tech, we are going to be the easily-subjugated savages.

How do we know we’re not already?


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