Great New Track From Snarky Puppy Guitarist Mark Lettieri: “Point Iz”

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Second single from the album, “Things of That Nature,” releasing worldwide on Oct. 18, 2019 from GroundUP Music.

“Point Iz” written and produced by Mark Lettieri.

Personnel:
Mark Lettieri: guitars
Shaun Martin: Fender Rhodes
Wes Stephenson: bass
Jason “JT” Thomas: drums

Recorded and mixed by Joey Lomas at January Sound Studios
Mastered by Dave McNair

Filmed and edited by Andy Laviolette

© 2019 Markus Justinius Music (SESAC)
© 2019 GroundUP Music

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:10:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:12:27pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:16:35pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:16:44pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

The “caliphate” is not defeated.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:20:57pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:22:30pm

Slaughtering the Kurds to own the Libs.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:23:57pm

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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Slaughtering the Kurds to own the Libs.

Want to make a joke about him not getting Nobel Peace prize but it’s too fucking sad.

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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:24:16pm

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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Slaughtering the Kurds to own the Libs.

I’m curious as to what cheetolini got in trade.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:24:57pm

re: #8 Weaselone

I’m curious as to what cheetolini got in trade.

a fucking hotel.

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uriel  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:26:20pm

From the thread that has become an ex-parrot

re: #343 uriel

Actually, I’m finding I like twitter. So many soft targets.

And the coda:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:27:29pm
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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:39:58pm

re: #10 uriel

Not to mention the CEO making 300 x the average worker is how you get the top 10% paying 50% of taxes. If the income distribution were flatter, the income tax distribution would also be flatter.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:53:34pm

Orangey McLimpdick is going to do something crazy this week, like, start a war.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:54:56pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:55:05pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Orangey McLimpdick is going to do something crazy this week, like, start a war.

And when that happens Susan Sarandon…will still whizz on Hillary…

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:59:10pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:59:27pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:00:28pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:01:56pm
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BigPapa  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:04:34pm

Hey you this ratatouille makes my place stink like heaven.

But Dick Cheney’s pace/heart/valve/module will be implanted in Bernie and he should be good until 2036 so don’t worry we’re fucked either way just enjoy it. And toasted bagels are really good with ratatouille.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:08:28pm

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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Sarandon blocked me.

But I’m glad that she didn’t blame Hillary…but when Bernie has attack #2 she probably will…

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:10:00pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

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Already seeing the Right-Wing defending Trump’s selling out the Kurds, by bringing up the terrorist group, the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party).

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:10:38pm

Obama was executed at Gitmo, y’all!

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BigPapa  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:12:12pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Big if true.

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:16:20pm

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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There’s wishful thinking…and then there’s total divorce from reality. Removing an arterial blockage in your heart is not like uncorking a drain pipe, it does not just magically make all the damage done go away and the sufferer feel revitalized.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:18:11pm

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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Slaughtering the Kurds to own the Libs.

This seems to be a recurring theme in Kurd history; our record has been consistent and less than honorable.

The question is: are there any people left in government who can persuade Trump to take another course. Who am I kidding —- of course not. He is a know-nothing surrounded by toadies. And the MAGAts who support him don’t care; they have no concern about anyone outside the United States and little concern for most Americans either. Hillary’s “deplorable” term understates the magnitude of their villainy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:19:32pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Heaven’s Gate was an awful mess but that’s no reason to lock Kris Kristofferson up at Gitmo!

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:22:29pm

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s changed his mind before on these things. I think it takes the right combination of senators and generals.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:29:23pm

re: #8 Weaselone

I’m curious as to what cheetolini got in trade.

The love of another dictator.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:38:26pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Obama was executed at Gitmo, y’all!

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What kind of drug-fueled fever dream is the source of that post?

But Drumpf will probably retweet the link tomorrow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:41:00pm

re: #28 Belafon

He’s changed his mind before on these things. I think it takes the right combination of senators and generals.

But is there anyone left who understands these issues, cares about them, and has any influence? Pompeo — who has real credentials — has proven to be without character or decency. Perhaps Esper? And would Haspel have any say in this?

During our latest interaction with our Trumpster brother, he boasted about how all our forces were going to be shortly out of Afghanistan. Somehow my brother has become a total isolationist when it come to military action; his attitude is to strike only if someone strikes us directly but not take any action elsewhere — and that seems to be Trump’s philosophy. Maybe it reflects the Ron Paul influence — or the Putin influence on our military strategy or foreign policy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:43:33pm

The story of its ruin is simple and obvious; and, instead of inquiring why the Roman empire was destroyed, we should rather be surprised that it had subsisted so long. The victorious legions, who, in distant wars, acquired the vices of strangers and mercenaries, first oppressed the freedom of the republic, and afterwards violated the majesty of the purple. The emperors, anxious for their personal safety and the public peace, were reduced to the base expedient of corrupting the discipline which rendered them alike formidable to their sovereign and to the enemy; the vigour of the military government was relaxed, and finally dissolved, by the partial institutions of Constantine; and the Roman world was overwhelmed by a deluge of Barbarians.

— Edward Gibbon. The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Chapter 38 “General Observations on the Fall of the Roman Empire in the West”

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:46:15pm

Lindsey Graham is joining the “there’s a tweet for everything” club.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:48:12pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Lindsey Graham is joining the “there’s a tweet for everything” club.

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Putin must have some really nasty Kompromat on Lindsay Graham.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:06:04pm

re: #31 Hecuba’s daughter

But is there anyone left who understands these issues, cares about them, and has any influence? Pompeo — who has real credentials — has proven to be without character or decency. Perhaps Esper? And would Haspel have any say in this?

During our latest interaction with our Trumpster brother, he boasted about how all our forces were going to be shortly out of Afghanistan. Somehow my brother has become a total isolationist when it come to military action; his attitude is to strike only if someone strikes us directly but not take any action elsewhere — and that seems to be Trump’s philosophy. Maybe it reflects the Ron Paul influence — or the Putin influence on our military strategy or foreign policy.

The only hope for the Kurds in Syria, if what is being reported is true, as opposed to a possibility that is being floated, is that Joint Chiefs of Staff step up and say “no”.

If it is true, the Kurds fighting in Syria will be sacrificed to make Erdogan happy.

Kind of like a certain meddling journalist from Saudia Arabia who got taken off the chessboard writ large. The Kurds will still have their provinces in north and northeast Iraq intact, but their trust in the west will be forever broken. They have carried our water in fighting Isis in western Iraq and Syria for three fucking years.

And they beat them into a pulp. They won. If we let the Turks destroy them, it will be the ultimate betrayal.

Does Drumpf understand any of this? No. He’s a complete moron on any aspect of foreign policy unless it makes him money, and Syria and Iraq are right out.

Abandoning the Kurds in Syria would be the worst foreign policy decision his admin has made yet, and that is saying one whole hell of a lot.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:10:51pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

Putin must have some really nasty Kompromat on Lindsay Graham.

Nope, Lindsay is a road whore.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:29:32pm

Sweet Down Thread……… Gaaaa!

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:30:12pm

Welp, I’m off to bed. Sweet dreams, all. Another Friday news dump tomorrow, and the beginning of a new infrastructure week!

Can’t wait!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:31:35pm

Winery incident in Italy.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:51:57pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:56:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2019 • 12:01:45am

re: #41 Dread Pirate

Lot’s o Blubbering…… Not much action

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Dread Pirate  Oct 7, 2019 • 12:31:50am

Mr Robot season 4 has started. I’m half way through the first episode and they can sure pack a lot of action in 31 minutes, almost like an afternoon of Donald Trump news.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:06:16am

So just saw an CNBC article which is blaming the ongoing economic slowdown and coming recession on…wait for it…Millenials not spending as much as Boomers did.

So, for those keeping score at home, Millenials are all responsible for their own economic woes because they’re buying frivolous things avocado toast, but also not spending enough money to keep the economy going.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:12:38am

Now reports indicate record low levels of unemployment. And let us not underestimate the role the economy plays in shaping voters’ views of the incumbent administration. It is why Bush I got booted and why McCain could not follow up on Bush II.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:26:35am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:35:01am
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:38:20am

To the “2% and less” portion of the Dem primary field, I have a suggestion: Go out there tomorrow and declare on live TV “If any country has copies of Trump’s tax returns, my campaign would be willing to negotiate in the spirit of the current administration to trade ‘favors’ for those copies…”

After all, what can the DOJ do to you when they’ve declared that there is nothing criminal about soliciting such assistance from foreign governments?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 1:56:43am

You know that Trump will cry bloody murder if his tax returns of other incriminating/embarrassing documents are leaked by a foreign country.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 2:39:48am

re: #41 Dread Pirate

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I am so fucking sick of the NYT’s bullshit on Dems.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 2:40:32am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You know that Trump will cry bloody murder if his tax returns of other incriminating/embarrassing documents are leaked by a foreign country.

Knowing him, he will tweet and call it treasonous.

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BigPapa  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:03:46am

Reading this 9 year old piece really ties in today’s batshit conservatism with it’s roots in Bircherism.

Confounding Fathers
The Tea Party’s Cold War roots.
By Sean WilentzOctober 11, 2010

My political awareness began with Operation Desert Storm and Limbaugh on the radio. I can see where he fits in with competing conservative sects through where we are today.

Buckley’s conservatism is long dead.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:17:04am

This is the story. Instead of a thousand “let’s check in with the forgotten flyover-state Trump supporter again” stories, the press needs to treat them as terrorists holding the country hostage to the whims of an incompetent autocrat by threatening to primary anyone who even utters a hint of disapproval of the president*.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:27:33am

re: #52 BigPapa

Reading this 9 year old piece really ties in today’s batshit conservatism with it’s roots in Bircherism.

Confounding Fathers
The Tea Party’s Cold War roots.
By Sean WilentzOctober 11, 2010

My political awareness began with Operation Desert Storm and Limbaugh on the radio. I can see where he fits in with competing conservative sects through where we are today.

Buckley’s conservatism is long dead.

I think we need to look at the conservative movement of the past 50-60 years as less conservatism and more reactionaryism. The right once it finally recovered from The Depression and how the Depression hindered conservatism nationally for a generation used the resentment of the fact that first Truman’s Fair Deal and later LBJ’s Great Society would benefit those of all socio-economic backgrounds to their advantage. It’s how many working class whites whom greatly benefited from The New Deal got to be fearful of “big government” and “tax/spend liberals.” One thing that infuriates me about Bernie Sanders when he attacks the Dem leadership for “losing” the WWC is he never acknowledges how the right in fact birthed identity politics which birthed first the “Silent Majority” and later the “Moral Majority.”. They are still the greatest practitioners of it. Pence even describes himself as a Christian first in his politics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:37:53am

re: #52 BigPapa

My political awareness began with Operation Desert Storm and Limbaugh on the radio. I can see where he fits in with competing conservative sects through where we are today.

Buckley’s conservatism is long dead.

funny, because a lot of my core beliefs are what could be called “conservative”. I like markets - but not as some abstract ideal, but as a mechanism for balancing supply and demand - to the benefit of all participants.

I favor individual initiative and personal responsibility. But individuals also have the right to collectivize. We do it all the time with investors in the form of limited-liability corporations, but why do conservatives throw tizzy fits when workers or consumers form unions or cooperatives?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:50:47am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

funny, because a lot of my core beliefs are what could be called “conservative”. I like markets - but not as some abstract ideal, but as a mechanism for balancing supply and demand - to the benefit of all participants.

I favor individual initiative and personal responsibility. But individuals also have the right to collectivize. We do it all the time with investors in the form of limited-liability corporations, but why do conservatives throw tizzy fits when workers or consumers form unions or cooperatives?

There’s conservatism in how we live our lives and then there’s political conservatism. And yes freedom to assemble. They hate unions and co-ops because they don’t like people making common cause against the assholes that bread their butter.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:52:29am

It’s awake. And it just shit out a five tweet storm justifying the coming genocide of Kurds in Syria.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:53:20am

re: #57 teleskiguy

It’s awake. And it just shit out a five tweet storm justifying the coming genocide of Kurds in Syria.

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I can’t wait for President Shitfit’s fits to end.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:56:53am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

There’s conservatism in how we live our lives and then there’s political conservatism. And yes freedom to assemble. They hate unions and co-ops because they don’t like people making common cause against the assholes that bread their butter.

and their idea of “individual freedom” is the freedom to negotiate as an individual for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services with multi-billion-dollar international corporations

their idea of “individual responsibility” has been abandoned for CEOs who run their corporations into the ground while absconding with massive bonuses…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:57:00am

re: #57 teleskiguy

Edit: The Ivanka tweet is from 2012

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:59:07am

It’s just Monday morning, and i feel rather certain everyone already needs this

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:00:36am

Stupid asshole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:04:06am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:07:52am

Today is Vladimir Putin’s birthday.

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jeffreyw  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:08:55am

Good morning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:15:29am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:16:06am

Fucking moron.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:18:27am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:19:14am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:24:02am

This is quite a thread from McGurk

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William Lewis  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:24:41am

re: #64 teleskiguy

Today is Vladimir Putin’s birthday.

I’m sure he’s happy with his present from Turkey via Trump.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:28:38am

Sorry for the very late reply…

re: #12 MsJ

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I want THINKER’s dancing avatar. I don’t know how to steal it. 😁😂

Right click on the avatar, and View Image in new Tab (in Chrome).

Or check your email. :)

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:37:45am

It’ll take generations for the United States to repair its diplomatic ties around the world. The damage is immeasurable.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:38:04am

Lindsey just may have a ‘spell of the vapors’ before this day is over

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:40:00am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:46:40am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:50:17am

Current Twitter trends.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 5:59:52am

Happy Monday

A federal judge on Monday rejected a bold argument from Mr. Trump that sitting presidents are immune from criminal investigations, allowing the Manhattan district attorney’s office to subpoena eight years of the president’s personal and corporate tax returns.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:05:04am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Wake up to hear that Trump has sold out the Kurds, knowing that Turkey is likely to engage in ethnic cleansing to deal with a group that Turkey has long claimed were terrorists. What did Trump get in return? A promise to build more hotels in Turkey? More personal financial gains?

Everything Trump is doing is to enrich and empower himself and the GOP has gone along with it because for the most part, the GOP empowered itself and was willing to overlook all of Trump’s criminality so long as the GOP advanced their agenda.

Well, now that the GOP is thoroughly compromised and complicit Trump has crossed the Rubicon. He makes a massive change in US strategic and foreign policy without bothering to consult his Senate GOPers. They too are waking up this morning to Trump selling out the Kurds. Trump didn’t bother consulting the Pentagon or the intel community either, all while lying about how ISIS is no longer a threat - it still is.

Trump continues to screw our national security by the day and the GOP has continued to enable Trump because they put party over nation and Trump’s personal enrichment is more important than applying the rule of law to a lawless and corrupt treason weasel like Trump and his cronies.

Graham finally finds his stones this morning, realizing the monster he’s spent years enabling is doing serious harm. They’ll issue a strongly worded statement in response all while protecting Trump from actual consequences.

GOP delenda est. They are no longer doing the nation’s business, or protecting the nation from all threats foreign and domestic. They are enabling and enriching themselves and their cronies, while sabotaging govt to further their personal agenda and corrupting everything they touch.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:06:05am
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:14:43am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:14:56am

re: #80 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Libyan model…..really sh*tty thing to do.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:17:33am
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DangerMan  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:18:25am

One pill makes you larger,
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that Rick Perry gives you make you extort Ukraine on a call…

Go ask Pompeo, he listened down the hall…

And if you go chasing Bidens, and you know you’re going to fall
Tell ‘em a DOE secretary made you make the call

And call Rudy, because he is out of his skull.

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead

When Fox News is talking backwards
And turns reality on its head

Remember what the First Lady said

Go to bed. Go to Bed.

(Multiple anonymous contributors)

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:24:34am
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DangerMan  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:24:57am

re: #52 BigPapa

Reading this 9 year old piece really ties in today’s batshit conservatism with it’s roots in Bircherism.

Confounding Fathers
The Tea Party’s Cold War roots.
By Sean WilentzOctober 11, 2010

My political awareness began with Operation Desert Storm and Limbaugh on the radio. I can see where he fits in with competing conservative sects through where we are today.

Buckley’s conservatism is long dead.

The conservative movement never clearly identified or articulated what it wanted or what it is

Their m/o is nothing more than “we are the smart ones. The only smart ones.
and so we should be in charge”

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:25:43am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:26:24am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:28:17am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:30:01am

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Must be nice to have a whole-ass law firm dedicated to keeping his taxes secret. They were good and ready to file an emergency notice of appeal the damn second the SDNY district court ordered his taxes to be turned over to SDNY prosecutors.

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:32:24am

re: #90 teleskiguy

Must be nice to have a whole-ass law firm dedicated to keeping his taxes secret. They were good and ready to file an emergency notice of appeal the damn second the SDNY district court ordered his taxes to be turned over to SDNY prosecutors.

Trump telegraphed this last week when they threatened the judge to respond on their timetable or else they’d act. A good lawyer would have these papers ready to go in any event (and they knew that the judge was going to deny their motion anyways).

Now it goes to the 2d Circuit, which is likely to affirm the judge’s ruling - meaning that it’s only a matter of time before it goes to the Supreme Court stacked with Trumpists Gorsuch and Kavanaugh who’ll contort their way to claiming that Trump can’t be investigated while in office.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:36:17am
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DangerMan  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:38:45am

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Lindsey just may have a ‘spell of the vapors’ before this day is over

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A Senate resolution Lindsey?
Strongly worded?
Wow.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:40:07am

One of my favorite quotes, along with a perfect illustration of what it means.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:42:07am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:47:50am

I love it how Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio are out there saying “if reports are correct…”

You dumbasses, the “reports” was a White House Press Release.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:48:38am

re: #96 teleskiguy

I love it how Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio are out there saying “if reports are correct…”

You dumbasses, the “reports” was a White House Press Release.

POTUS IS A BIG KIDDER!

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:51:05am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:51:34am

And like clockwork, Matt Taibbi throws cold water on the whistleblower(s):
Rolling Stone: The ‘Whistleblower’ Probably Isn’t

One little problem: we’re still early in the game - Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice raised the flag on the risks the current whistleblower faces days ago.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:52:54am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

I am so fucking sick of the NYT’s bullshit on Dems.

I got tired of that over four years ago. No, wait…. over 12 years ago. No, wait…

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:53:02am

IT’S ON TAPE! He said it on the White House lawn, in technicolor.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:53:29am

re: #99 Eric The Fruit Bat

And like clockwork, Matt Taibbi throws cold water on the whistleblower(s):
Rolling Stone: The ‘Whistleblower’ Probably Isn’t

One little problem: we’re still early in the game - Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice raised the flag on the risks the current whistleblower faces days ago.

I have an adversion to Matt, but did he talk about the part where Trump admitted doing what the whistleblower said after releasing the summary of the phone call that matched what the whistelblower said?

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Kilroy was here  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:00:47am

Weekend Update: Trump Brushes Off Impeachment Concerns - SNL
The second bit (2:18) make me laugh out loud. Genius!

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:02:34am

re: #101 teleskiguy

IT’S ON TAPE! He said it on the White House lawn, in technicolor.

We didn’t watch a lot of old movies when I was a kid. We were trying to escape reality, not deal with it. So I didn’t know about the movie Gaslight, nor did I know that gaslighting was a word in English. Because of Trump, though, I’ve had to explain the term to my kids, it’s source, and how to watch out for it happening.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:02:36am

re: #90 teleskiguy

Must be nice to have a whole-ass law firm dedicated to keeping his taxes secret. They were good and ready to file an emergency notice of appeal the damn second the SDNY district court ordered his taxes to be turned over to SDNY prosecutors.

You can tell they were really serious about getting their appeal going: Trump actually paid the filing fee (even if it’s only $505 ) up front….

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:03:22am

re: #105 Jay C

You can tell they were really serious about getting their appeal going: Trump actually paid the filing fee (even if it’s only $505 ) up front….

I’m sure his donors will be happy to know that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:05:35am

re: #99 Eric The Fruit Bat

And like clockwork, Matt Taibbi throws cold water on the whistleblower(s):
Rolling Stone: The ‘Whistleblower’ Probably Isn’t

One little problem: we’re still early in the game - Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice raised the flag on the risks the current whistleblower faces days ago.

Did you expect that liar to write the truth?

I don’t .

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:11:17am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:15:46am

Watch as Ukraine slowly falls out of the news cycle.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:15:57am

re: #99 Eric The Fruit Bat

And like clockwork, Matt Taibbi throws cold water on the whistleblower(s):
Rolling Stone: The ‘Whistleblower’ Probably Isn’t

One little problem: we’re still early in the game - Adam Silverman over at Balloon Juice raised the flag on the risks the current whistleblower faces days ago.

The bizzaro far left-Trump axis continues i see. I used to read Taibbi during the financial crisis but he’s revealed himself to be fine with right wing corruption since he thinks it will trigger a revolution.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:23:28am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

The bizzaro far left-Trump axis continues i see. I used to read Taibbi during the financial crisis but he’s revealed himself to be fine with right wing corruption since he thinks it will trigger a revolution.

So he’s Susan Sarandon in pants? He wrote with such skill and grace during the financial crisis.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:24:42am

re: #95 teleskiguy

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:25:40am

re: #109 GlutenFreeJesus

Watch as Ukraine slowly falls out of the news cycle.

So is the Kurd catastrophe being orchestrated to distract from Ukraine? And is this a case where Lindsey will emerge a hero by getting Trump to reverse his proposed plans?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:29:24am

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was. Lindsey is too late. US troops are already withdrawing.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:31:04am

re: #112 retired cynic

esquire.com

President* Trump Abandons the Kurds in Syria Overnight, by Charlie Pierce

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:31:33am

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:36:34am
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plansbandc  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:48:42am
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:52:39am

More concern and furled brows.

120
teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:57:10am

Well, Limpdick McOrangeshit definitely knows how Foghorn Leghorn feels.

121
teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:59:03am

Everybody is on the same page in Trumpworld.

122
teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:03:39am

Mental health break. I see a lot of foxes around these parts. Never seen black foxes.

123
DodgerFan1988  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:07:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:08:52am

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

The Kurds are not all our friends

Some of the Kurds train Antifa

Well that settles that. Anyone who supports the Kurds is an Antifa terrorist.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:09:08am

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸

@JackPosobiec
The Kurds are not all our friends

Some of the Kurds train Antifa

In that case, I’m more for them than ever!

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:13:12am

re: #122 teleskiguy

Mental health break. I see a lot of foxes around these parts. Never seen black foxes.

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They’re like dogs with cat operating systems.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:13:26am

re: #122 teleskiguy

Mental health break. I see a lot of foxes around these parts. Never seen black foxes.

[Embedded content]

I have never seen black foxes; never seen a fox that close at all. What loves! A friend of a friend has a friendly fox that gets a food share. She took this photo through her back screen door: … rats, I can’t find it. It wasn’t as good as this, anyway!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:14:05am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:14:58am

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

I was planning on reporting over to the Kurdistan region for some Milkshake throwing training soon.

//

Oh brother, these guys are demented and have followers.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:15:30am

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

IIJM, or do some/most of those “Antifa” banners and logos look like they’ve been Photoshopped in?

Of course, it’s Jack Posobiec, so I wouldn’t be surprised.

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plansbandc  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:26:20am

re: #127 retired cynic

My cousin saw two foxes boinking on his front lawn in Denver. :D

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:32:08am

The big news! Trump finally has a nickname for Nancy — Nervous Nancy!

Projecting much, Demented Don?

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:35:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:39:19am

More legalized discrimination coming our way…

Via NPR:

It’s a hectic morning at the home of Kathleen O’Donnell and her wife, Casey. Kathleen is getting their four-year-old foster daughter ready for the park. She got placed with them overnight. Casey is wrangling the four dogs. They’ve already got their 11-year-old son off to school.

They live on a tree-lined street in Billings, Montana. It’s a place they’ve called home since 2014.

“All of my family lives in Billings, so with a kid we wanted to be near them,” Kathleen said.

But when the same-sex couple made the move, they knew it came with risks. While five Montana cities have local non-discrimination ordinances on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity, Billings, the state’s largest city, is not one of them.

Nor does the state have an explicit law that protects LGBTQ people from discrimination in housing, employment or public accommodations. Neither do more than half of U.S. states, leaving millions to rely on a patchwork of protections that vary depending on where they happen to live.

It’s why Kathleen and her wife are closely watching three upcoming cases that will be argued in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday related to Title VII, the federal statute that makes it illegal to discriminate against someone at work on the basis of sex. The court is hearing arguments on whether the definition of sex in Title VII includes sexual orientation and gender identity.

For people like the O’Donnells, whatever the Supreme Court decides will have an outsized impact on their lives. They’ve already felt the limits of the protections in the city they call home.

It started the year the family moved to Billings in 2014. Kathleen was looking for a place to live with her family. She found a house that worked. The landlord handed her an application.

“We met the standard requirements for renting the house. And I had just written [my wife’s] name down and he asked me, ‘OK, well is it a girl or a boy?’ Which is an odd question to ask someone,” Kathleen said. “[Casey and I] had actually previously had that conversation on what do we do if someone asks us, because it is common in Montana, unfortunately, and we were like, ‘No, we’re not going to lie, we’re going to tell the truth.’ And so when I did that, that’s when he was like, ‘Oh, I don’t rent to your kind here.’”

She said without local protections, there wasn’t much she could do, so she found a different place to live.

Two years later, Kathleen landed a new job at a local auto dealership. Most people were nice, but she said the owner’s son called her names.

“He felt it was OK to make names based on my appearance,” she said. “I would be considered a ‘butch’ lesbian, and I have the short hair, so they didn’t refer to me by Kathleen. They would refer to me as ‘Bob’ or ‘Bill’ and use a male verbiage because of my appearance.”

She put up with it.

“With that being your job and the way you provide for your family, unfortunately I just kind of let it be the way it was going to be at that time,” she said.

A few days before her six-month probationary period was up, her supervisor called her into the office and told her the owner asked him to fire her.

“I looked at him and I was like, ‘Why am I being fired?’ I was like, ‘I’ve never been in trouble. I’ve shown up to work,’” she said. “And he said, ‘It’s because the owner does not like that you’re gay.’”

The dealership would not comment on O’Donnell’s allegation. At the time, she said she called the Montana state employment office.

I told them my story and they’re like, ‘Unfortunately, there’s nothing I can do for you,” she said.

LGBTQ advocates say such stories are unfortunately all too common in states where gender identity and sexual orientation are not explicitly protected classes under the law. And while the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says it will enforce Title VII’s protections when gender identity and sexual orientation is at issue regardless of the law in any particular state, courts are irrevocably split on whether it has the authority to do so.

That’s the question the Supreme Court is being asked to decide when they hear the three cases, two on sexual orientation and one on gender identity.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:42:31am

Oh my fuck. His brainworms are taking a massive shit in his cerebral cortex.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:43:45am

I, IN MY GREAT AND UNMATCHED WISDOM

Good. Fucking. Grief.

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calochortus  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:44:15am

re: #135 teleskiguy

Oh my fuck. His brainworms are taking a massive shit in his cerebral cortex.

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.

I got nuthin’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:45:33am

re: #136 teleskiguy

I, IN MY GREAT AND UNMATCHED WISDOM

Good. Fucking. Grief.

I was about to post the same thing. Fucking hell.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:47:45am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:47:47am

re: #135 teleskiguy

Oh my fuck. His brainworms are taking a massive shit in his cerebral cortex.

[Embedded content]

.

He has gone f*cking mad.

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:48:51am
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calochortus  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:51:10am

Since when does Trump know how to correctly spell and use “reiterate” and “obliterate” in a sentence?

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Kilroy was here  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:51:57am

thehill.com
Supreme Court session begins without ill Clarence Thomas

Details of Thomas’s illness were not immediately disclosed.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:53:02am

re: #143 Kilroy was here

thehill.com
Supreme Court session begins without ill Clarence Thomas

Details of Thomas’s illness were not immediately disclosed.

I am hoping he makes it to the next president. He’s the chair whose vacancy would flip the Supreme Court.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:54:03am

re: #135 teleskiguy

Oh my fuck. His brainworms are taking a massive shit in his cerebral cortex.

[Embedded content]

.

Threatening economic warfare with a NATO ally…..perfect, just perfect.

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Skip Intro  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:54:05am

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Lindsey just may have a ‘spell of the vapors’ before this day is over

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Trump will be inviting Lindsey to play another round of golf soon.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:55:15am

re: #144 Belafon

I am hoping he makes it to the next president. He’s the chair whose vacancy would flip the Supreme Court.

Mitch wouldn’t dare entertain filling a vacancy during an election year.

//

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Interesting Times  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:55:17am

re: #144 Belafon

I am hoping he makes it to the next president. He’s the chair whose vacancy would flip the Supreme Court.

Or he might pull a Kennedy and resign just before the 2020 election >_<

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:55:34am

re: #146 Skip Intro

Trump will be inviting Lindsey to play another round of golf soon.

or releasing the pictures he has of him

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KGxvi  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:55:43am

re: #141 makeitstop

Friendly reminder: Turkey is a NATO member, for good or ill. So, yeah, still undermining the Post-War order.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:56:21am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:56:32am

Didn’t KJU have state media run a story once that said he’d gone out and shot a hole in one on all 18 holes in a round of golf?

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KGxvi  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:56:34am

re: #145 b.d. (It’s all true)

Threatening economic warfare with a NATO ally…..perfect, just perfect.

Why not? He seems to really want a trade war with the EU too…

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:57:28am

re: #140 b.d. (It’s all true)

He has gone f*cking mad.

Ya think??

Is this really a REAL tweet? It’s insane even by Trump-tweet standards; I had to to wait a bit before responding to # 135 because I just couldn’t believe this wasn’t a parody account….

And just one point: am I missing or misremembering something ‘cuz I can’t recall any recent “destructions” of the Turkish economy; whether caused by Donald Trump or not….

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:57:43am

re: #1 The Pie Overlord!

Trump batcrap insanity takes a turn…

Trump hasn’t destroyed any foreign nation’s economy. He’s damaged ours.

Trump must be thinking of the casinos he’s bankrupted multiple times.

The more he tweets, the less stable he sounds.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:58:15am

re: #146 Skip Intro

Trump will be inviting Lindsey to play another round of golf soon.

I am hoping — without any evidence — that somehow Trump’s latest action is a step too far for Lindsey. That Lindsey decides that no matter how much it will cost him personally that he will finally take a stand.

Who am I kidding — that weasel has no integrity or courage left, assuming he had any to begin with.

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calochortus  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:58:50am

re: #154 Jay C

It seems like an overzealous aide might have gotten his hands on Trump’s phone.

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KGxvi  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:59:52am

re: #148 Interesting Times

Or he might pull a Kennedy and resign just before the 2020 election >_<

Supreme Court Justices typically won’t even announce a retirement in a presidential election year. Which is why all the talking points about the Scalia vacancy were such bullshit. The Justices tend to wait out presidential elections unless they shuffle off this mortal coil.

159
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:59:56am

re: #157 calochortus

It seems like an overzealous aide might have gotten his hands on Trump’s phone.

No, it’s Trump. It’s got the random capitalization and unhingeyness he’s known for.

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MsJ  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:00:36am

re: #72 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))

Sorry for the very late reply…

Right click on the avatar, and View Image in new Tab (in Chrome).

Or check your email. :)

Got it, thank you!

161
John Hughes  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:00:55am

re: #154 Jay C

And just one point: am I missing or misremembering something ‘cuz I can’t recall any recent “destructions” of the Turkish economy; whether caused by Donald Trump or not….

There’s a kind of a logical problem here.

If Trump “destroyed and obliterated” the Turkish economy before how can he do it again?

Yeah, ok, logic is the wrong tool for understanding Trump.

162
calochortus  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:01:47am

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

The only weird capitalization I noticed was “Economy,” which made me wonder if he wrote it.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:02:12am

re: #135 teleskiguy

I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!).

LOL this is cartoonish James Bond supervillainy. This asshat thinks he’s fucking Hugo Drax or something.

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garzooma  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:02:14am

re: #46 Dread Pirate

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We’re all losing the plot here. The big question is Trump’s “absolute right” to have any American investigated by any country, for any reason Trump likes

And once Barr has completed the corruption of the FBI, Trump can use it to do these “investigations”. We’ll be in the same place that Russia is.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:02:56am
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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:03:15am

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

He’s Auric Goldfinger…. thinking he can enrich himself if he nukes our own economy, foreign policy, national security, etc.

He’s a CHAOS agent though. Spectre is too competent for him.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:03:40am

There are no “both sides are to blame” when it comes to genocide.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:03:45am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:06:29am

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

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There are no “both sides are to blame” when it comes to genocide.

You don’t get to claim to support the Kurds, Kurt. You’re not.

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sagehen  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:07:53am

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t KJU have state media run a story once that said he’d gone out and shot a hole in one on all 18 holes in a round of golf?

His very first golf game evah!!

Gods can do that.

//

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:09:08am

re: #166 lawhawk

He’s Auric Goldfinger…. thinking he can enrich himself if he nukes our own economy, foreign policy, national security, etc.

He’s a CHAOS agent though. Spectre is too competent for him.

LOL very true.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:09:22am

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

There are no “both sides are to blame” when it comes to genocide.

Kurt misses the point here, IMO: Why are the Kurds and the Turks set to “fight”? And wouldn’t prudent statecraft dictate (since we’re involved there anyway) that we do our best to try to avoid such “fighting”? Even leaving aside the horrific probability that most casualties in said fight are likely to be civilians/women/children?

And yeah, maybe the term “prudent statecraft” in the Trump Admin needs the obligatory “sarc tag”…. ///

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:16:09am

So if I understand trump, the Kurds will be dead and so will the Turkish economy.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:16:30am

Another Trump apologist defending the upcoming slaughter of Kurds, by calling them terrorists.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:17:52am

re: #174 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

Another Trump apologist defending the upcoming slaughter of Kurds, by calling them terrorists.

We’re again screwing then sigh. Trumpers would defend Nazi persecution of Jews if they discovered Jewish leftists.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:17:57am

re: #172 Jay C

Kurt misses the point here, IMO: Why are the Kurds and the Turks set to “fight”? And wouldn’t prudent statecraft dictate (since we’re involved there anyway) that we do our best to try to avoid such “fighting”? Even leaving aside the horrific probability that most casualties in said fight are likely to civilians/women/children?

And yeah, maybe the term “prudent statecraft” in the Trump Admin needs the obligatory “sarc tag”…. ///

Based on our Saturday conversation with my brother, the apparent new Trump talking point is that it’s ok if the rest of the world descends into madness and conflict; we just stay out and sell to both sides and we’re good. Morality is irrelevant — and Donald Chamberlain would have sat out WWII and let the Germans and Japanese conquer the rest of the world. Pat Buchanan’s vision has seized control of the Trump Party.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:17:58am
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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:18:16am

Boy, do we ever need a smile. If we can make our facial muscles assume the position. … I’m not sure I can!

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:22:55am

US to Turkey: green light for ops.

US to Kurds: drop dead.

US to ISIS: green light to resume being chaos agents in region.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:27:11am

re: #130 Jay C

IIJM, or do some/most of those “Antifa” banners and logos look like they’ve been Photoshopped in?

Of course, it’s Jack Posobiec, so I wouldn’t be surprised.

It’s not even a good photoshop.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:28:16am

Trump ideology. If you have leftists in your ranks, you deserve to die and be persecuted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:29:18am

re: #130 Jay C

IIJM, or do some/most of those “Antifa” banners and logos look like they’ve been Photoshopped in?

Of course, it’s Jack Posobiec, so I wouldn’t be surprised.

They look astoundingly like old photos of the PLO training German RAF terrorists.

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DangerMan  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:31:07am

re: #95 teleskiguy

they’re not likely worried about the next dem prez and any deals or agreements he/she makes

it’s the next R after who would take it apart…again

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lawhawk  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:35:01am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:35:59am

re: #179 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

US to Turkey: green light for ops.

US to Kurds: drop dead.

US to ISIS: green light to resume being chaos agents in region.

DOD is now a worthless mouthpiece for Trump; he is the CIC and has complete control over our military. He will not listen to others’ advice because Putin is the only adviser he needs. Any impeachment inquiry is going to take months — the damage Trump can inflict in this time is incalculable. No one ever feared that Nixon or Clinton would sell out to the enemy when they were under investigation. The processes could grind slowly because a few months delay in “justice” did not presage lasting damage to our nation or the world order. But when an enemy agent has been elected in this modern world, we don’t have the luxury of waiting for the wheels of justice to grind slowly to their conclusion. I don’t know what options are available now, given the absolute collapse of the Republican Party into a Trump Party.

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KGxvi  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:37:22am

Turkey attacking the Kurdish population in Northern Syria is the perfect match for a regional war that includes several civil wars.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:40:25am

re: #186 KGxvi

Turkey attacking the Kurdish population in Northern Syria is the perfect match for a regional war that includes several civil wars.

Which could force a Democratic successor to step in and unfortunately get blamed.

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DangerMan  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:48:22am

re: #166 lawhawk

He’s Auric Goldfinger…. thinking he can enrich himself if he nukes our own economy, foreign policy, national security, etc.

He’s a CHAOS agent though. Spectre is too competent for him.

jff: if it’s Get Smart you’re channeling, it was ‘KAOS’

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 7, 2019 • 4:02:51pm

Anyone who thinks the current chaos will change with Trump gone are deluded. America is through the looking glass now. We have evolved into the next stage of our nation’s history- an aging, scared empire thrashing about finding our place in a multipolar world. Even with a potential Warren or Biden presidency our former worldwide notion of stability is gone. We are under the rule of a Republican Party corporate plutocracy with broad support from a huge swath of voting square acreage with about 35% of the population, mostly tribal-voting white people calling the shots.

The name of the game is white supremacism at any cost- even destroying the country as it has been known in the process. The alliance between the Fundamentalist Christians and the more secular entitlement-minded whites like Trump is not simply going away. The Republicans will continue to dominate local and state elections for decades. The country is worth destroying because for them, the alternative is worse. A world where white men and white Christian cultural constructs are not automatically dominant is too scary for them to even contemplate. Better for them to split the country into more local state control, eliminate national agencies, regulations and and still be able to dictate law and policy by right-wing SCOTUS judicial decree in the urban areas.


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