The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Ballad of Parnas and Fruman

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Dayne Phillips Attorney at Law:

The Ballad Of Parnas And Fruman — NSFW! Jody Hamilton from the From The Bunker Podcast is here; Happy Birthday to my brother Jim; Trump rally tonight in “Minneanapolis”; Turkey attacking the Kurds; Tiny Trump says Kurds didn’t help us at Normandy; China gave Trump official dirt on the Bidens; OMB ordered to withhold Ukraine aid; Support for impeachment growing by the day; Trump asked DOJ to stop investigating Turkish money launderer repped by Rudy; Parnas and Fruman arrested on campaign finance charges; Parnas and Fruman repped Trump; Weird Eric Trump audio; Deutsche Bank loaned Trump millions without getting his tax returns; With music by Freekbass and Pasha Black; and more!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 11, 2019 • 12:11:39am

Hagibis has weakened a bit, but it still is a large storm:

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Dread Pirate  Oct 11, 2019 • 12:59:38am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 11, 2019 • 1:34:49am

I think I know who their spokesman is, he used to work for Saddam.

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Scout  Oct 11, 2019 • 1:53:26am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

JR East is saying they’re going to shut down tomorrow at noon for 24 hours.

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Jay C  Oct 11, 2019 • 2:44:11am

re: #3 Dread Pirate

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I think I know who their spokesman is, he used to work for Saddam.

Yeah, lotta smoke billowing up there: what’s their story? Cook in the galley burned some kebabs?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:45:47am

I have like…a billion tabs of various MSNBC videos on YouTube open, just from 10/8 to today to watch…

…this is early Friday morning.

This week has been a heck of a month…and its not close to being over yet.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:46:17am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:47:42am

re: #6 Sufficient unto the day…

I have like…a billion tabs of various MSNBC videos on YouTube open, just from 10/8 to today to watch…

…this is early Friday morning.

This week has been a heck of a month…and its not close to being over yet.

And since Friday is usually a news dump day, I can’t wait to see what happens tonight.

It’s exhausting. Especially when the news comes at you like a tommy gun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:48:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:51:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 3:58:19am

(click to make bigger to get the full view of Boris’ tie.)

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:10:07am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are bondage pictures that use ropes that are shorter than that tie.

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:14:37am

re: #2 Dread Pirate

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Well, that opened quite the ugly Turkish rabbit hole.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:15:49am

Morning Joe’s crew are fretting for the poor Trump voters who have buyer’s remorse, have soured on Trump, but “have no one on the Democratic side to vote for if Biden loses to someone like Warren.” But bless Willie Geist who notes that there are also a lot of “I’ll vote for anyone as long as it’s not Trump” independent voters, too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:16:46am

Interesting daily read.

5 things to know for October 11: Impeachment inquiry, Brexit, NBA controversy

Here’s what else you need to know to Get Up to Speed and Out the Door.

Read in CNN: apple.news

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:16:55am

Yeah, this is shaping up to be a beautiful foliage season—-

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:18:23am

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Morning Joe’s crew are fretting for the poor Trump voters who have buyer’s remorse, have soured on Trump, but “have no one on the Democratic side to vote for if Biden loses to someone like Warren.” But bless Willie Geist who notes that there are also a lot of “I’ll vote for anyone as long as it’s not Trump” independent voters, too.

So the hell what. They constantly complain that they don’t have a choice. Warren is a choice. Fuck the stupid Trump voters who want us to feel sorry for them.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:23:33am

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:25:11am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

So the hell what. They constantly complain that they don’t have a choice. Warren is a choice. Fuck the stupid Trump voters who want us to feel sorry for them.

My mother’s one of them. Basically, every time Warren speaks (every time anyone left of Biden including Mayor Pete speaks), she hears The Internationale.

And she’s that type of white Boomer who feels that fascism and communism are totally equal and totally evil, so given the choice between a fascist and what she sees as a Red in the pre-2000 sense of the word…she’ll write in a joke name.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:25:34am

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Morning Joe’s crew are fretting for the poor Trump voters who have buyer’s remorse, have soured on Trump, but “have no one on the Democratic side to vote for if Biden loses to someone like Warren.” But bless Willie Geist who notes that there are also a lot of “I’ll vote for anyone as long as it’s not Trump” independent voters, too.

Yeah, I’m going back to my boycott of that show. They’re going to spend the next months disparaging Democratic candidates as too extreme to attract Never Trumpers. What nonsense!!

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:26:21am

re: #19 Chrysicat

And no, I don’t think there’s any way I can talk her into voting for Warren. I’m not sure that if she finds out I did, she won’t cut me off, and I’m basically incapable of self-support.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:26:27am

Bees!!!

Bee Simulator - Official Gamescon 2018 Trailer

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:26:49am

re: #19 Chrysicat

How is Senator Warren communist in your mother’s eyes? I really don’t get it. Does she prefer four more years of a fascist to Warren or Sanders or Biden?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:29:14am

re: #2 Dread Pirate

Label it an incursion which is what it is and then put sanctions on Turkey. The EU shouldn’t tolerate such inhumane threats.

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:29:40am

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

How is Senator Warren communist in your mother’s eyes? I really don’t get it. Does she prefer four more years of a fascist to Warren or Sanders or Biden?

She’s convinced the Wealth Tax will drop from 500M to 0.75M during just her first term.

She also doesn’t seem to understand that Warren’s the least likely of the leftist Dems to go nationalising major industries right and left.

And I think that pointing out Warren was a Republican as recently as the second Clinton administration won’t go over well either, because I suspect she’d outright deny it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:30:54am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:31:40am

re: #19 Chrysicat

My mother’s one of them. Basically, every time Warren speaks (every time anyone left of Biden including Mayor Pete speaks), she hears The Internationale.

And she’s that type of white Boomer who feels that fascism and communism are totally equal and totally evil, so given the choice between a fascist and what she sees as a Red in the pre-2000 sense of the word…she’ll write in a joke name.

My mom is definitely wary of more left wing economic solutions but she finds Warren genuine and refreshing. I mean I get not wanting all of Warrens agenda. I myself am a little skeptical. But damn it she’s got an agenda and will actually work rather than being a punk on Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:33:39am

re: #3 Dread Pirate

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I think I know who their spokesman is, he used to work for Saddam.

Oldie but goodie

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:34:11am

Good morning Lizards!

Happy No Collusion Friday, surely Rudy can’t keep his job all day today?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:34:24am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:36:03am

re: #30 MsJ

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The Trump Hotels and Mar a Lago are modern versions of the Ravenite and other mob hangouts.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:36:36am

Dayum.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:36:51am

re: #26 MsJ

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The Jackass is probably going to tweet something that Governor Newsom will want to punch him for.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:37:41am

re: #32 MsJ

Dayum.

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Former Rep Curbello says Lev and Igor were on the Hill constantly too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:39:02am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

So the hell what. They constantly complain that they don’t have a choice. Warren is a choice. Fuck the stupid Trump voters who want us to feel sorry for them.

Of course, it’s not just Trump voters who won’t vote for Warren; it’s Bernie voters who won’t vote for anyone whose name is not Bernie and post memes such as “It’s no one but Bernie. Good luck winning without us”; and it’s people in the financial services industries who hate being regulated and forced to behave responsibly. I have friends who will vote for her but believe she will lose in a landslide. There are too many bad actors out there who will damage any person who wins the Democratic nomination. Hopefully, though, enough people will see the light and vote “Democrat for President”

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:40:26am

re: #13 Chrysicat

Well, that opened quite the ugly Turkish rabbit hole.

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Continuing the discussion from there, I hope that we’re getting closer to the same page:

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:40:32am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

A very Happy Birthday!!!

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:42:37am

re: #32 MsJ

Dayum.

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LOL, Rudy’s pet reporter, Ken Vogel wrote this, I guess Rudy is done….

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:43:14am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

Happy Birthday!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:44:16am

And Boehner is pushing weed these days. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:45:55am

‘Morning from rainy NOLA. The campground book exchange has a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (with commenaries). That’s at least as cool as a Gideon’s Bible at a Motel 6.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:47:03am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

A very happy birthday to you!!!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:47:42am

re: #38 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

LOL, Rudy’s pet reporter, Ken Vogel wrote this, I guess Rudy is done….

♫ The wheels on the bus go Thumpety-Thump, right over Ruudddeeee ♫

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:49:41am

re: #43 Sufficient unto the day…

♫ The wheels on the bus go Thumpety-Thump, right over Ruudddeeee ♫

It’s more like a train than a bus.

And I’m ok with that.

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:50:19am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:55:53am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

Happy B’Day Dangerman!!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 4:57:52am

re: #25 Chrysicat

I didn’t know that Senator Warren was a Republican as recently as 1996. Wow. Quite a 180 degree turn.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:00:38am

re: #41 Decatur Deb

‘Morning from rainy NOLA. The campground book exchange has a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (with commenaries). That’s at least as cool as a Gideon’s Bible at a Motel 6.

Some fool here in Ostrava threw away a lightly-used pair of Adidas sneakers. And a perfect fit, too! So, disinfected them, cleaned ‘em up a little bit (the soles were dirty, but largely unworn; I’d say the previous owner wore them for less than a couple months) and saved myself about $100 or so.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:01:00am

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t know that Senator Warren was a Republican as recently as 1996. Wow. Quite a 180 degree turn.

By both the GOP & Warren.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:01:32am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

Happy Birthday.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:01:51am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

We were told there’d be cake.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:02:57am

re: #51 Decatur Deb

We were told there’d be cake.

….or death?

EDDIE IZZARD - DRESS TO KILL - CAKE OR DEATH

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:04:43am
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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:05:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:06:22am

re: #51 Decatur Deb

We were told there’d be cake.

See…#42

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:07:19am

Some nutcase went on a stabbing spree in a shopping center in Manchester, UK. Five injured, one seriously, perp in custody.

mirror.co.uk

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:13:04am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:20:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:22:43am

Alexei Leonov, the first man to do a spacewalk, has died at the age of 85.

Alexei Leonov, a Soviet-era cosmonaut who was the first man to conduct a spacewalk in 1965, died in Moscow on Friday aged 85 after a long illness.

The Russian space agency Roscosmos said it was saddened to announce the death of “cosmonaut No 11” who was twice decorated with the country’s top honour, the Hero of the Soviet Union.

Leonov was a close friend of Yury Gagarin, who became the first human to go to outer space in 1961.

Four years later Leonov made history when he left a spacecraft during the Voskhod 2 mission for a spacewalk that lasted 12 minutes and nine seconds.

phys.org

RIP. I imagine there will be a funeral with state honors - and rightly so.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:33:07am

This is seriously the single weirdest story I’ve seen. Maybe forever. Same story, different outlets.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:37:20am

re: #60 MsJ

Sounds eerily similar to the plot of the horror film Orphan.

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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:42:11am

Good morning!

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:43:47am

re: #62 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

She’s a little too visible there. Even if the majority haven’t already flown south, they’re not landing anywhere near that feeder this morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:45:53am

Glad the NY Times published something useful: a column pointing out the wealthy actually pay less in taxes than the rest of us…nytimes.com

Warren’s wealth tax seems impractical, but a reversion of the tax code to that of the Clinton era, but with reductions for lower brackets, changes in estate taxes to capture more money from the wealthy, and elimination of the carried interest loophole, plus perhaps some of the suggestions in the article would be a good start.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:45:58am

re: #19 Chrysicat

My mother’s one of them. Basically, every time Warren speaks (every time anyone left of Biden including Mayor Pete speaks), she hears The Internationale.

And she’s that type of white Boomer who feels that fascism and communism are totally equal and totally evil, so given the choice between a fascist and what she sees as a Red in the pre-2000 sense of the word…she’ll write in a joke name.

Next time your mother starts in on EBIL SOCIAMALISM, respond with

Homestead Act
Transcontinental railroad
Interstate highways
NASA
Hoover Dam
TVA, rural electrification
GI Bill
Fire Department
Medicare
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard
National Parks

Try to get her to understand that this ccountry was built by socialism

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:51:01am

re: #65 sagehen

Next time your mother starts in on EBIL SOCIAMALISM, respond with

Homestead Act
Transcontinental railroad
Interstate highways
NASA
Hoover Dam
TVA, rural electrification
GI Bill
Fire Department
Medicare
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard
National Parks

Try to get her to understand that this ccountry was built by socialism

And the biggest one to matter to a mom…Social Security.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:53:06am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

Sounds eerily similar to the plot of the horror film Orphan.

Or the Highlander episodes featuring Kenny.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:53:11am

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Glad the NY Times published something useful: a column pointing out the wealthy actually pay less in taxes than the rest of us…nytimes.com

Warren’s wealth tax seems impractical, but a reversion of the tax code to that of the Clinton era, but with reductions for lower brackets, changes in estate taxes to capture more money from the wealthy, and elimination of the carried interest loophole, plus perhaps some of the suggestions in the article would be a good start.

And, of course, assembling a team of tax experts to focus on reviewing tax returns of the rich and corrupt to extract more money from tax cheats. And making a more serious effort at detecting and punishing money launderers.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 5:55:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:02:34am

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Morning Joe’s crew are fretting for the poor Trump voters who have buyer’s remorse, have soured on Trump, but “have no one on the Democratic side to vote for if Biden loses to someone like Warren.” But bless Willie Geist who notes that there are also a lot of “I’ll vote for anyone as long as it’s not Trump” independent voters, too.

Ah, Morning Ho returning to his GOP Ayn Randian worshipping ways.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:04:19am

re: #19 Chrysicat

My mother’s one of them. Basically, every time Warren speaks (every time anyone left of Biden including Mayor Pete speaks), she hears The Internationale.

And she’s that type of white Boomer who feels that fascism and communism are totally equal and totally evil, so given the choice between a fascist and what she sees as a Red in the pre-2000 sense of the word…she’ll write in a joke name.

Just like my sister who endlessly slams Warren with the “P” word. She worships the ground Trump walks on. Religion has totally brainwashed her.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:05:39am

How do people like Jake Tapper keep getting this wrong?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:05:39am

re: #71 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like my sister who endlessly slams Warren with the “P” word. She worships the ground Trump walks on. Religion has totally brainwashed her.

There’s a real mental deficiency if anyone thinks that trump is in any way religious.

If there is such a thing as the anti-Christ, it is trump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:06:18am

re: #72 jaunte

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How do people like Jake Tapper keep getting this wrong?

Are both questions not valid? I think they are.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:07:39am

re: #74 MsJ

There are asks and then there are openly extortionate asks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:13:05am

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, it’s not just Trump voters who won’t vote for Warren; it’s Bernie voters who won’t vote for anyone whose name is not Bernie and post memes such as “It’s no one but Bernie. Good luck winning without us”; and it’s people in the financial services industries who hate being regulated and forced to behave responsibly. I have friends who will vote for her but believe she will lose in a landslide. There are too many bad actors out there who will damage any person who wins the Democratic nomination. Hopefully, though, enough people will see the light and vote “Democrat for President”

The DSA members are actively shunning me because I back Warren. They’re already saying Bernie or Burn it Down. Oh and if Bernie is “cheated out of what is rightfully his” they will back Tulsi as the Green candidate…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:13:21am

Here’s a single yes or no question then…

It is OK for the president* of the US to secretly withhold constitutionally appropriated funds to extort a “favor” of creating false evidence against political rivals?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:14:46am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!

televisiontunes.com

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:15:37am

re: #72 jaunte

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How do people like Jake Tapper keep getting this wrong?

Yes, “extortion” isn’t that hard of a word to say.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:20:59am

re: #66 MsJ

And the biggest one to matter to a mom…Social Security.

My sister gets her Social Security check, says she earned it…and then she gladly posts the most racist ssshhhaaavvviiinnnggg cream on her Facebook page about colored people on welfare…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:23:12am

Turd Campaign

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:23:39am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

We’re going to need a bigger bingo card as the bulkshit continues to hit the fan. All the while, Trump continues to do serious damage to national security and the intel services and the mechanisms that deliver intel to the WH.

You don’t get rid of the career professionals to have only political appointees unless the only thing you want to hear is the stuff that you delusionally believe to be reality. It’s about fitting the intel to Trump’s know-nothing idiocy.

The point of the intel community is to tell the president and decision makers the information they need to know, not what they want to hear. Trump doesn’t give a shit, and wants to gut the career servicemembers all in favor of his puppets and sycophants. This is extremely dangerous to our security, and the GOP doesn’t give a shit.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:27:21am

Not a good morning in the San Fernando Valley. The fire has taken out homes and threatens thousands. We really hope it does not cross the 118 freeway. That runs along the northern edge of the valley. MIL home is a little threatened if that happens.

Evacuation map.

Wind Map, filtered to show 15mph and up only

Winds at 6:20
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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:27:52am

re: #63 Chrysicat

She’s a little too visible there. Even if the majority haven’t already flown south, they’re not landing anywhere near that feeder this morning!

That’s Ollie, AKA Olliedammitgetdown!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:29:18am

Some live coverage of that stabbing incident earlier today in Manchester. The suspect, already in custody, is thus far being described as “a man in his 40s”.

bbc.com

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:33:03am

Republican congresspeople on tv this morning still insisting there was no quid pro quo.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:33:28am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

Thanks for the heads-up, been 60 now for over half a year and it certainly feels a f*ck of a lot older than 59…

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:37:22am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thanks for the heads-up, been 60 now for over half a year and it certainly feels a f*ck of a lot older than 59…

Age 62 should make one feel older than 61 — at that age, you are finally eligible to collect Social Security!

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:39:32am

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:43:34am

re: #89 DangerMan

Of course Trump stated it but, like everything he says, he never meant it.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:43:40am

“…When people were listening to this in real time, there were significant concerns about what was going on — alarm bells were kind of ringing,” said one person familiar with the sequence of events inside the White House, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “

……………….

“…Officials said that within hours of the 9 a.m. conversation, a rough transcript compiled by aides had been moved from a widely shared White House computer network to one normally reserved for highly classified intelligence operations. According to the whistleblower’s complaint, White House lawyers “directed” officials to move the transcript to the classified system. At the same time, officials were seeking ways to report what they had witnessed, an undertaking complicated by the lack of a White House equivalent to the inspector general positions found at other agencies.”

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:44:53am

Too many witnesses. It’s all going to come out.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:48:23am

re: #92 jaunte

Too many witnesses. It’s all going to come out.

And I read the other day that by moving this to the classified server it ensures it cannot be deleted.

If that is true, the irony of that is (((chef’s kiss))) prefect.

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:49:29am
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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:49:32am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

It is. But there is so much more to the story. A bunch of podcasts, including “Last Podcast on the Left” have been talking about it. Seems very possible the parents are lying.

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:50:19am
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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:52:08am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:53:38am

re: #95 plansbandc

It is. But there is so much more to the story. A bunch of podcasts, including “Last Podcast on the Left” have been talking about it. Seems very possible the parents are lying.

Two US courts have deemed that this supposed child was in her 20’s (now 30).

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:55:51am

re: #60 MsJ

This is seriously the single weirdest story I’ve seen. Maybe forever. Same story, different outlets.

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That is literally the plot of a mediocre horror movie.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:56:57am

re: #97 jaunte

But he will just dissemble, claim executive privilege, claim he doesn’t recall, and/or plead the Fifth.

ED: Correction to typo

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:57:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:57:48am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

That is literally the plot of a mediocre horror movie.

Isabelle Fuhrman as the titular “orphan” was the only good thing about that film.

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:59:15am

re: #98 MsJ

Yes, but new tests show that she may have a disease that brings on early puberty and affects bone density. This throws into question her actual age. She does have physical and mental problems and the new couple who’ve adopted her need to have her carefully monitored. They also need to watch their backs because she has already shown murderous tendencies.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:59:32am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 6:59:36am

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

But he will just dissemble, claim executive privilege, claim he doesn’t recall, and/or please the Fifth.

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This clown strikes me as a guy who thinks he is a lot smarter than he actually is, this could blow up on him bigly.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:03:19am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

So the hell what. They constantly complain that they don’t have a choice. Warren is a choice. Fuck the stupid Trump voters who want us to feel sorry for them.

“I have no choice usually” means I don’t like the options

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:07:11am

re: #104 DangerMan

Here’s a thought: Russia needs the US to get a war going in order to blow up NATO and the UN before the next election or his plans start to fall apart.

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Jay C  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:09:17am

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

But he will just dissemble, claim executive privilege, claim he doesn’t recall, and/or plead the Fifth.

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Maybe, but was Sondland subpoenaed? I can understand him not wanting to get into personal legal trouble if so, but ISTM that if he really didn’t want to appear, he could just retreat behind Pompeo’s stonewalling. For now, anyway.

And also: can one “plead the Fifth” at a Congressional hearing?

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:10:52am

re: #51 Decatur Deb

We were told there’d be cake.

Youre in Nawlins
Po’boys or muffalettas all around

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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:13:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:14:57am

re: #110 jeffreyw

Friday news dump is off to a good start, I see.

I’m telling ya, this Infrastructure Week is lit!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:17:22am

re: #18 DangerMan

i’ve been 62 for a couple of hours

it feels exactly like 61 did yesterday

We were told there’d be cake.re: #109 DangerMan

Youre in Nawlins
Po’boys or muffalettas all around

Shrimp po’boy last night. Offered a weird crawdad ‘Julie’ sauce, but that would be mixing crustaceans—surely an Old Testament abomination.

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Jay C  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:18:44am

re: #110 jeffreyw

So IOW, yet another legal stumbling-block Trump* has tried to put in the way of exposing his (no-doubt shady) business dealings has been kicked out of the way by the courts.

Another IANAL question: can this decision be appealed? And to whom? SCOTUS?

*Donald personally, I’m guessing, vs. the Admin (?)

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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:20:56am

re: #112 Decatur Deb

We were told there’d be cake.

Shrimp po’boy last night. Offered a weird crawdad ‘Julia’ sauce, but that would be mixing crustaceans—surely an Old Testament abomination.

All my life I’ve had a positive relationship with crawdads, with one notable exception, down by the creek, when I was 6.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:21:19am

re: #113 Jay C

Oh, it’ll go all the way to the Supreme Court, I don’t doubt that at all.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:21:38am

Receipe:

cookpad.com

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:22:24am

re: #65 sagehen

Next time your mother starts in on EBIL SOCIAMALISM, respond with

Homestead Act
Transcontinental railroad
Interstate highways
NASA
Hoover Dam
TVA, rural electrification
GI Bill
Fire Department
Medicare
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard
National Parks

Try to get her to understand that this ccountry was built by socialism

Or that none of these things is in fact “,socialism”

They are things paid for by the government for the common good. and that money is raised through taxes.

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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:23:15am

re: #113 Jay C

So IOW, yet another legal stumbling-block Trump* has tried to put in the way of exposing his (no-doubt shady) business dealings has been kicked out of the way by the courts.

Another IANAL question: can this decision be appealed? And to whom? SCOTUS?

*Donald personally, I’m guessing, vs. the Admin (?)

I saw mention of asking for the full circuit to rule. I expect they will use up all the time they can. I don’t imagine they will try to go to the Supremes directly.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:23:18am

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

But he will just dissemble, claim executive privilege, claim he doesn’t recall, and/or plead the Fifth.

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ED: Correction to typo

Yup. He’s only testifying to help his master. Giving the appearance of defiance in an effort to seem more legit.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:25:25am

re: #79 Barefoot Grin

Yes, “extortion” isn’t that hard of a word to say.

Neither is “lie” but they cant manage that one either

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:27:36am

Off to a good start! I bet the Impeachment Team Christmas Party is going to be fun!

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:32:53am

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course Trump stated it but, like everything he says, he never meant it.

True
Though if you voted for him believing it and relying on it, then what’s that say about you and what are you gonna do next time?

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:33:47am

re: #91 jaunte

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“…When people were listening to this in real time, there were significant concerns about what was going on — alarm bells were kind of ringing,” said one person familiar with the sequence of events inside the White House, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “

……………….

“…Officials said that within hours of the 9 a.m. conversation, a rough transcript compiled by aides had been moved from a widely shared White House computer network to one normally reserved for highly classified intelligence operations. According to the whistleblower’s complaint, White House lawyers “directed” officials to move the transcript to the classified system. At the same time, officials were seeking ways to report what they had witnessed, an undertaking complicated by the lack of a White House equivalent to the inspector general positions found at other agencies.”

We better bury this fast….

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:34:44am

re: #109 DangerMan

HB Danger Man!!

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:35:01am

re: #92 jaunte

Too many witnesses. It’s all going to come out.

They knew what they were doing
They knew it was wrong
And they knew why

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:35:37am

Daddy doesn’t know them but his personal lawyer and at least 3 of his kids do.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:38:22am

re: #126 GlutenFreeJesus

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Daddy doesn’t know them but his personal lawyer and at least 3 of his kids do.

Those are some fugly coats Ivanka and the other woman are wearing.

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:39:24am

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

Those are some fugly coats Ivanka and the other woman are wearing.

Jailhouse furs.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:40:14am

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

Those are some fugly coats Ivanka and the other woman are wearing.

And it is a picture of the boys before they got their plastic surgery…..shudder!!!

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Jay C  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:41:21am

re: #108 Jay C

ETA: Apparently, yes: Gordon Sondland WAS subpoenaed to appear.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:46:09am
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:47:18am

re: #126 GlutenFreeJesus

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Daddy doesn’t know them but his personal lawyer and at least 3 of his kids do.

There’s a picture of them with Trump: dailykos.com

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:49:29am

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!

televisiontunes.com

Played this like an hour ago
It won’t go away
Mrs dm and I hate you now. ;-)

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:51:12am

Friday night’s starting earlier and earlier…

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:52:05am

re: #133 DangerMan

Played this like an hour ago
It won’t go away
Mrs dm and I hate you now. ;-)

Been in my head since I was 6. You have 50 more years to look forward to.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:53:20am

re: #135 wrenchwench

Been in my head since I was 6. You have 50 more years to look forward to.

You had to share your misery huh?

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:53:55am

re: #135 wrenchwench

Been in my head since I was 6. You have 50 more years to look forward to.

Oooops, 55.

Math.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:54:05am
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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:55:57am

re: #136 DangerMan

You had to share your misery huh?

Hey, that was Joe B. We’re all sharing, now.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:57:54am

re: #114 jeffreyw

All my life I’ve had a positive relationship with crawdads, with one notable exception, down by the creek, when I was 6.

When my brother was a child, he once bent over a bucket with some crawdads in it and came up with one attached to his nose.

Oh, good morning. I hope we all survive today’s news dump. I’ve become remarkably unproductive because of everything that’s coming down. (I suppose I can’t blame Washington for the weather and the shutdowns.)

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:59:15am

re: #134 lawhawk

Even if he is shot down by SCOTUS, he’ll never turn them over. Never.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2019 • 7:59:35am

I think we are catching a break in the Saddleridge fire. Winds are challenging but could be a lot worse. Not to minimize what is happening. Or encourage anyone to be less cautious. Wundermap has winds in the teens. Otoh we sometimes get windspeeds that would get you a ticket for speeding anywhere but the autobahn.

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Teukka  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:02:47am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:03:55am

Even Nixon.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:04:09am

re: #141 Ace Rothstein

Even if he is shot down by SCOTUS, he’ll never turn them over. Never.

He doesn’t have to. This is his accouting firm. They can turn them over. They were going to if they were issued a subpoena, which the House supplied. Then Trump started trying to block them.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:05:10am

re: #126 GlutenFreeJesus

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Daddy doesn’t know them but his personal lawyer and at least 3 of his kids do.

That looks like a still from “The Sopranos”.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:07:55am

re: #146 Ace-o-aces

That looks like a still from “The Sopranos”.

Queens trash edition.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:08:59am

current mood:

YouTube

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:10:00am

re: #112 Decatur Deb

We were told there’d be cake.

Shrimp po’boy last night. Offered a weird crawdad ‘Julie’ sauce, but that would be mixing crustaceans—surely an Old Testament abomination.

Sounds good. There was a place in Lake Charles LA that I would stop into when driving between Houston and Mississippi to visit relatives. They had the best shrimp pizza. It was right off I-10 but damned if I can remember the name of the place. But this was about 30 years ago and my memory has never been what it used to be :-)

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:10:10am

re: #137 wrenchwench

Oooops, 55.

Math.

that happens when you age ;-)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:10:13am
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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:10:50am

re: #139 wrenchwench

Hey, that was Joe B. We’re all sharing, now.

yeah, but you piled on the bleak future outlook ;-)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:11:17am

re: #132 Belafon

“I take photos with everyone! I have no idea who they are!” - literally his excuse.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:11:59am

Remember, you only need four votes at SCOTUS to grant cert.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:12:42am

re: #144 Ace-o-aces

@aceoaces
To be fair, the issue has never come up before politically, because all of the 44 presidents preceding him took care not to even appear to violate the emoluments clause. Every. Single. One.

Even Nixon.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:14:38am
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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:15:11am

re: #153 GlutenFreeJesus

“I take photos with everyone! I have no idea who they are!” - literally his excuse.

and it’s gonna be theirs too — in a parking lot

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:17:08am

re: #70 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah, Morning Ho returning to his GOP Ayn Randian worshipping ways.

They’re hoping that Trump is simply seen as a aberration that will go away rather than an indication that the rot is in the GOP all the way down.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:17:58am
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Danack  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:20:27am

re: #126 GlutenFreeJesus

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Daddy doesn’t know them but his personal lawyer and at least 3 of his kids do.

How the heck can they have such poor taste in, and ability to wear clothes?

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:22:30am

Read the entirety of the threat, but yeah, Rao basically tried to personally upend any sort of precedent and turn Impeachment into the ultimate Catch-22 to insulate the president from any and all investigations.

The majority opinion rightfully smacked her down, but remember that she’s going to be on one federal bench or another for at least 2 generations.

This is what we have to look forward to in the courts. This is our future.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:25:15am

re: #161 Citizen K

Read the entirety of the threat, but yeah, Rao basically tried to personally upend any sort of precedent and turn Impeachment into the ultimate Catch-22 to insulate the president from any and all investigations.

The majority opinion rightfully smacked her down, but remember that she’s going to be on one federal bench or another for at least 2 generations.

This is what we have to look forward to in the courts. This is our future.

And, mysteriously, none of that would apply to a Democrat in the same position.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:29:38am

re: #162 Belafon

And, mysteriously, none of that would apply to a Democrat in the same position.

Unfortunately, some serious law profs still aren’t prepared to accept that there’s politics being played at:

It’s possibly the most naive thing I could think of to say in light of this. This shit is almost exactly why Rao was put on the bench to begin with. The partisanship is exactly the point.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:31:35am

re: #163 Citizen K

Unfortunately, some serious law profs still aren’t prepared to accept that there’s politics being played at:

It’s possibly the most naive thing I could think of to say in light of this. This shit is almost exactly why Rao was put on the bench to begin with. The partisanship is exactly the point.

For most of the previous 44 presidents, that would be true, because the judges were picked and vetted. But that doesn’t apply at all to Trump appointees. Trump’s were picked for a reason.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:31:51am

re: #161 Citizen K

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Read the entirety of the threat, but yeah, Rao basically tried to personally upend any sort of precedent and turn Impeachment into the ultimate Catch-22 to insulate the president from any and all investigations.

The majority opinion rightfully smacked her down, but remember that she’s going to be on one federal bench or another for at least 2 generations.

This is what we have to look forward to in the courts. This is our future.

i agree that this is pretzel logic perversion

and would add that this statement, while accurate as far as it goes, is fundamentally inadequate, if it is implying that only illegal conduct is impeachable

‘impeachment provides the exclusive method for congress to investigate accusations of illegal conduct by impeachable officials…”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:33:45am

When conservative jurists championed by the federalist society apply the same jurisprudence to all Presidents, I’ll stop viewing them as hacks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:36:16am

Hmmm, I wonder why Gym Jordan never wears a suit coat like other Congressmen….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:37:08am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

When conservative jurists championed by the federalist society apply the same jurisprudence to all Presidents, I’ll stop viewing them as hacks.

This is the end result of packing the courts with every last asshole McConnell can get his hands on.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:37:42am

re: #141 Ace Rothstein

Even if he is shot down by SCOTUS, he’ll never turn them over. Never.

But that won’t stop his accounting firm from doing so.

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:40:23am

re: #152 DangerMan

yeah, but you piled on the bleak future outlook ;-)

Bleak? Oh, right, you haven’t seen Sheriff John singing it personally to all the boys and girls who wrote to him and told him their birthday(s).

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:44:19am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:49:29am

I found it interesting in a conversation with my financial advisor* the other day that he specifically mentioned Warren as a threat to market values if she gets elected. I think he transitioned pretty cleanly from Hilary being the market anti-Christ to Warren being it.

The Trump-ites I am still acquainted with (and many of which I basically don’t talk to, just see their Facebook crap) seem to pretty much continue backing Trump verbally for one (or more) of three reasons:
1. The “he owns the libs” crap - which says a lot about them given that most of them are getting directly hurt by Trump’s policies.
2. They’re conservative Catholics for whom abortion is still a big thing and apparently is solely the fault of whoever the leading Democratic candidate is.
3. A few of them are pretty much racist to the core and still carry a lot of butt-hurt from the fact there was an Obama Administration.

* - I don’t discuss politics with him for a few reasons. Mainly because I know he wouldn’t budge from his conservative positions via discussion and wouldn’t be swayed by any evidence I provided. Too solidly based in his GOP-ness due to conservative Catholic upbringing**, market uber alles viewpoint (it’s what he does for a living), and I expect decades of exposure to the GOP talking points.

** - And there is a bit of hypocrisy here that I will not go into.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:52:24am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

I found it interesting in a conversation with my financial advisor* the other day that he specifically mentioned Warren as a threat to market values if she gets elected. I think he transitioned pretty cleanly from Hilary being the market anti-Christ to Warren being it.

The Trump-ites I am still acquainted with (and many of which I basically don’t talk to, just see their Facebook crap) seem to pretty much continue backing Trump verbally for one (or more) of three reasons:
1. The “he owns the libs” crap - which says a lot about them given that most of them are getting directly hurt by Trump’s policies.
2. They’re conservative Catholics for whom abortion is still a big thing and apparently is solely the fault of whoever the leading Democratic candidate is.
3. A few of them are pretty much racist to the core and still carry a lot of butt-hurt from the fact there was an Obama Administration.

* - I don’t discuss politics with him for a few reasons. Mainly because I know he wouldn’t budge from his conservative positions via discussion and wouldn’t be swayed by any evidence I provided. Too solidly based in his GOP-ness due to conservative Catholic upbringing**, market uber alles viewpoint (it’s what he does for a living), and I expect decades of exposure to the GOP talking points.

** - And there is a bit of hypocrisy here that I will not go into.

Having an entire political system where the dominant party in it has no true aligning principles except “Trigger The Libs” is not a sustainable system. Especially when our watchdogs act like said party is the only true legitimate and worthy party in the country.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 8:55:44am

Owning the mind while I go into foreclosure.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:00:16am

re: #173 Citizen K

GOP is still the party of fear. Fear the libs. Fear losing your guns. Fear the immigrants.
Fear the brown people. Fear this. Fear that.

Pretty makes them willing participants in the “race war” without realizing that they are really the expendable auxiliaries in the class war that is really taking place.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:01:45am

I just made “stuffed cabbage” but I didn’t want to spend all my time wrapping up each individual cabbage leaf so I just cut the cabbage into strips and layered it with the rice and meat like lasagna.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:05:03am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

I obviously don’t know his financial acumen, but to me, I’d forever view him as being way too stupid to give any advice worth considering.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:06:45am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

I just made “stuffed cabbage” but I didn’t want to spend all my time wrapping up each individual cabbage leaf so I just cut the cabbage into strips and layered it with the rice and meat like lasagna.

I do that and just make a one skillet dinner.

The lasagne concept is interesting but how will you cut it?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:09:06am

re: #178 MsJ

I do that and just make a one skillet dinner.

The lasagne concept is interesting but how will you cut it?

Same way as you cut lasagna!

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:09:12am

‘Morning, Lizards!

First - happy birthday, Dangerman!

We’re out the door to go to a tour of the Little Red Lighthouse under the GW Bridge. There will be photos!

Hope the country doesn’t burn down while we’re out…

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:10:20am

re: #180 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards!

First - happy birthday, Dangerman!

We’re out the door to go to a tour of the Little Red Lighthouse under the GW Bridge. There will be photos!

Hope the country doesn’t burn down while we’re out…

Naaah, but there will be 7 bombshells related to Trump while you’re gone.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:11:10am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Nuclear war wiping out the major cities would be a healthy reset for our nation,” Nebor wrote in late September on a Reddit thread, one of the top posts on his profile overview. “As long as Tel Aviv got a taste too. But our nation would be better off without NYC, Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Minneapolis, Washington DC, Seattle, etc. They’re all full of traitors and bugmen.”

Isn’t that the backstory for Jericho?

Jericho - TV Show scene of the Nuclear blast!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:11:59am

re: #182 sagehen

Ummm, we’d be pretty fucked if we lost all the major cities…

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:16:59am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:18:00am

re: #184 jaunte

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Why it’s almost like the Biden thing was one giant projection.

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:18:51am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:19:04am

re: #177 MsJ

I obviously don’t know his financial acumen, but to me, I’d forever view him as being way too stupid to give any advice worth considering.

His financial acumen is pretty good. He gave good advice to my parents and I’ve gotten good advise from him as well over the years - which has been profitable for both of us.

I think his worldview has been pretty limited and in blinders to some degree. It’s pretty easy to limit oneself to mainly seeing the white privileged world and not give much thought to what others are experiencing.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:19:09am

“Contacts of Mr. Giuliani may well have believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in Ukraine.”

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:19:32am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:20:06am

re: #189 lawhawk

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Obviously Ilan Omar’s fault.//

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:20:22am

Wish me luck folks. Off to the kitchen to take a shot at a low-carb gluten-free bread recipe.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:23:22am

The harm is here. The harm has come.

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:23:24am

re: #187 Feline Fearless Leader

H… It’s pretty easy to limit oneself to mainly seeing the white privileged world and not give much thought to what others are experiencing.

Awfully easy.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:23:53am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm, we’d be pretty fucked if we lost all the major cities…

Have you seen the show?

The domestic traitors who engineered the plot set up their new capitol in Cheyenne WY, the people who organized it all and carried it out turn out to be Halliburton and Blackwater analogs… and Skeet Ulrich (Jughead’s dad on Riverdale) and Lennie James (Morgan on Walking Dead) are the heroes who gather the evidence and make sure everyone sees it.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:23:59am
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:26:50am

re: #188 jaunte

“Contacts of Mr. Giuliani may well have believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in Ukraine.”

How’s a company named Fraud Guarantee supposed to operate in a legitimate environment?

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:27:33am

re: #196 Belafon

Fraud Guarantee: “You Knew I Was A Snake”

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:30:29am

So much for that talking point.

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:32:15am

re: #198 jaunte

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:32:32am

re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader

Wish me luck folks. Off to the kitchen to take a shot at a low-carb gluten-free bread recipe.

I’ve made a few…with and without yeast…and none of them are very good. They make sandwiches and stuff just fine, but the taste is never bread-like.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:32:59am

re: #198 jaunte

Trump administration will send more forces to Saudi Arabia

Because we need an America First policy, and these guys come first before America.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:34:33am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we need an America First policy, and these guys come first before America.

America First, but Trump is more first than America.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:35:26am

re: #202 Belafon

America First, but Trump is more first than America.

“Saudis buy my properties. They pay cash”.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:35:37am

Saudi Arabia has the first strike attribute from Magic.

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Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:36:45am

re: #187 Feline Fearless Leader

His financial acumen is pretty good. He gave good advice to my parents and I’ve gotten good advise from him as well over the years - which has been profitable for both of us.

Then he sounds like another manifestation of this phenemenon:

This was my first encounter with what I now like to call the “smart idiots” effect: The fact that politically sophisticated or knowledgeable people are often more biased, and less persuadable, than the ignorant.
…
For one thing, well-informed or well-educated conservatives probably consume more conservative news and opinion, such as by watching Fox News. Thus, they are more likely to know what they’re supposed to think about the issues—what people like them think—and to be familiar with the arguments or reasons for holding these views. If challenged, they can then recall and reiterate these arguments. They’ve made them a part of their identities, a part of their brains, and in doing so, they’ve drawn a strong emotional connection between certain “facts” or claims, and their deeply held political values. And they’re ready to argue.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:39:26am

Li’l Garbage Hobbit gonna get him a gun to shoot Teh Ghey!

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:39:57am
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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:40:47am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Ben Shapiro Threatens Beto O’Rourke’s Shins

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:40:51am

re: #205 Interesting Times

They’ve made them a part of their identities, a part of their brains, and in doing so, they’ve drawn a strong emotional connection between certain “facts” or claims, and their deeply held political values. And they’re ready to argue.

I gave up on discussing politics with a gay Log Cabin Republican buddy because I came to realize that he is more interested in advancing a staccato of irrelevant facts and easily refuted talking points to win an argument than he is in having a discussion about a topic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:43:35am

re: #208 jaunte

Ben Shapiro Threatens Beto O’Rourke’s Shins

The ankle nipping is off the charts.

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ericblair  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:44:41am

re: #163 Citizen K

Unfortunately, some serious law profs still aren’t prepared to accept that there’s politics being played at:

Seems to be a pretty common law prof disease. They’ve spent their lives analyzing the logic and foundations of the law in all its supposed glory, with decisions as carefully considered and weighed intellectual exercises. Seeing the judiciary turn into a mudpit of unthinking hacks makes their work useless.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:45:45am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Li’l Garbage Hobbit gonna get him a gun to shoot Teh Ghey!

[Embedded content]

Beto’s Response
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:46:03am

re: #211 ericblair

Seems to be a pretty common law prof disease. They’ve spent their lives analyzing the logic and foundations of the law in all its supposed glory, with decisions as carefully considered and weighed intellectual exercises. Seeing the judiciary turn into a mudpit of unthinking hacks makes their work useless.

Mueller did such a job of keeping his investigation out of the political mudpit that he refused to even get his shoes dirty.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:47:05am

re: #60 MsJ

That’s literally the plot of a movie. I believe it was called The Orphan.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:49:53am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm, we’d be pretty fucked if we lost all the major cities…

Trump cult wet dream if we are talking anywhere but maybe NY and DC

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:50:01am

re: #198 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So much for that talking point.

To do what? Why would we send troops to Saudi Arabia under any circumstances? This is outrageous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:50:34am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

To do what? Why would we send troops to Saudi Arabia under any circumstances? This is outrageous.

It’s all good. The Saudis pay cash.

//

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:52:03am

re: #200 MsJ

I’ve made a few…with and without yeast…and none of them are very good. They make sandwiches and stuff just fine, but the taste is never bread-like.

My expectations are not really high, but willing to give a few recipes a try and see what comes out and if it’s an acceptable substitute that I can toast and eat with eggs or as a sandwich base. (This recipe is not using yeast - vinegar/baking soda and also using eggs as a leavening agent I believe.)

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:52:36am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

Money for the Trumps is the only answer.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 9:54:36am

re: #205 Interesting Times

Then he sounds like another manifestation of this phenemenon:

The hard part is us not doing that ourselves. Sometimes I have to go look up what other people say in order to get my arguments in order. Of course I’m going to choose one that lines up with what I feel. Trying to make sure it isn’t just confirming my biases is hard.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:01:31am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Li’l Garbage Hobbit gonna get him a gun to shoot Teh Ghey!

[Embedded content]

Oh please. No one is afraid of Ben Shapiro.

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prairiefire  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:02:08am

Happy Friday, Lizards! Do I hear a train a coming, coming down the tracks?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:03:32am

re: #222 prairiefire

Happy Friday, Lizards! Do I hear a train a coming, coming down the tracks?

Indeed. Had to get up early for a Tour From Hell (American tourists in Mainz, bus driver left without us) and came home to have something that redefined the term “power nap”…

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:05:35am

re: #144 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Even Nixon.

has got soul…. [obscure Neil Young reference]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:07:15am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

has got soul…. [obscure Neil Young reference]

do you think she loves you?

(do you think at all?)

[Buffalo Springfield reference]

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:07:31am

The Incredible Shrinking Credibility.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:09:52am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Li’l Garbage Hobbit gonna get him a gun to shoot Teh Ghey!

[Embedded content]

YOU WILL RUIN MY CHILDREN’S FUTURE IF YOU TEACH THEM RESPECT, ACCEPTANCE AND TOLERANCE, I’LL SHOOT YOU! I ALREADY HAVE THEIR CAREERS IN THE GRIFTER MEDIA ALL PLANNED OUT!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:12:31am

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

My expectations are not really high, but willing to give a few recipes a try and see what comes out and if it’s an acceptable substitute that I can toast and eat with eggs or as a sandwich base. (This recipe is not using yeast - vinegar/baking soda and also using eggs as a leavening agent I believe.)

It was the first time in two years we had a grilled cheese sandwich. Not great but at the same time it was fabulous (low expectations and all).

The yeast one was a lot of work. The eggs alone was easy breezy and the taste was literally identical.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:14:21am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

To do what? Why would we send troops to Saudi Arabia under any circumstances? This is outrageous.

It’s Trump…..he just had his worshipers praise his Syrian backstabbing as fulfilling a campaign promise of bringing troops home, Trump almost had to do this.

Every time his followers try to praise Trump he ends up making them look like bigger idiots.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:17:26am

re: #222 prairiefire

Happy Friday, Lizards! Do I hear a train a coming, coming down the tracks?

That’s the light at the end of the tunnel….

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:22:50am

re: #161 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Read the entirety of the threat, but yeah, Rao basically tried to personally upend any sort of precedent and turn Impeachment into the ultimate Catch-22 to insulate the president from any and all investigations.

The majority opinion rightfully smacked her down, but remember that she’s going to be on one federal bench or another for at least 2 generations.

This is what we have to look forward to in the courts. This is our future.

This is frightening: enough such justices and we will truly be a dictatorship. Hitler did his crimes legally, approved by a corrupt judiciary. We are heading straight in that direction if the GOP is not purged from the government.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:23:06am

re: #222 prairiefire

Happy Friday, Lizards! Do I hear a train a coming, coming down the tracks?

We’re stuck in Trumper Nation
And time keeps draggin’ on
But the truth is just a bustin’
To blow my blues away

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:24:38am

re: #210 MsJ

The ankle nipping is off the charts.

Your kids, Ben? The same ones whose births you were ignoring so you could Own Teh Libs with one moar witty tweet about Obama?

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:26:14am

re: #226 jaunte

The Incredible Shrinking Credibility.

“Look, America’s never been a dictatorship before. Maybe Trump will go after his political opponents in a different way.” - Rubio, soon.

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DangerMan  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:27:09am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

I just made “stuffed cabbage” but I didn’t want to spend all my time wrapping up each individual cabbage leaf so I just cut the cabbage into strips and layered it with the rice and meat like lasagna.

i’ve been making ‘unstuffed cabbage’ for years

shred the cabbage
everything in a pot
2-3 hours on low

yum for days

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:31:12am

re: #184 jaunte

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:38:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:39:22am
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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:40:06am

re: #230 sagehen

That’s the light at the end of the tunnel….

Or—

There’s a light at each end of this tunnel,
You shout ‘cause you’re just as far in as you’ll ever be out

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:40:37am
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:41:08am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s comes the current cowardess test for Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:41:10am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

When nominees don’t answer questions, they don’t deserve our votes. Steven Menashi — an extreme nominee on the merits — is now even refusing to answer whether he worked to hide President Trump’s #Ukraine call while serving in the White House Counsel’s Office.

He just needs to look into the camera and tell us “I like beer, maybe too much…” and our hearts will all melt for him.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:41:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:41:53am

oh

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:42:08am

re: #228 MsJ

It was the first time in two years we had a grilled cheese sandwich. Not great but at the same time it was fabulous (low expectations and all).

The yeast one was a lot of work. The eggs alone was easy breezy and the taste was literally identical.

This dough came together a lot easier than I expected. Fairly wet, but quick bread type doughs often are. I think it may be so in order to trap more air/gas into the dough to help with whatever rising it ends up doing. I just have to be careful to make sure it’s properly done all the way through before pulling it from the oven.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:42:17am
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:43:27am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

They should nominate either Rudy or Trump, that way they’ll already be where they want to flee to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:46:58am

Subtropical Storm Melissa to impact mid-Atlantic coast and southeastern New England.

11:00 AM AST Fri Oct 11
Location: 38.5°N 69.6°W
Moving: SSW at 3 mph
Min pressure: 995 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:49:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:49:32am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:52:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:53:55am

good fucking grief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:54:32am

O_o

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:54:47am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mnuchin holds a press conference to say the US is NOT sanctioning Turkey but could if it wanted to.

we could wreck their whole economy if we wanted to, remember?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:55:18am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:56:38am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:57:29am

happening in Greater Cincinnati:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:57:35am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2019 • 10:58:16am

re: #245 Feline Fearless Leader

This dough came together a lot easier than I expected. Fairly wet, but quick bread type doughs often are. I think it may be so in order to trap more air/gas into the dough to help with whatever rising it ends up doing. I just have to be careful to make sure it’s properly done all the way through before pulling it from the oven.

Most of the recipes I make tend to be thick and sticky. Let me know how the wet comes out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:00:13am

re: #258 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s fucking selling our military to the higher damn bidder.

Jesus Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:00:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:02:04am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:02:23am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

[Embedded content]

Won’t say when

When you can ice skate on the river Styx?

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:03:23am

re: #258 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just remember, MAGAts, Trump will do this to you.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:04:27am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got a shorter answer for them: Waaaaah. Of course he’s not a neutral observer, he’s a patriot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:06:16am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:06:43am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s fucking selling our military to the higher damn bidder.

Jesus Christ.

So our military has officially become a mercenary army, who fights for the highest bidder, without any loyalty to our Constitution, but only Dear Leader Mango Mussolini.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:08:59am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:09:43am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:11:56am

re: #259 MsJ

Most of the recipes I make tend to be thick and sticky. Let me know how the wet comes out.

Well, it’s going to spend more time in the oven than the recipe states for one. Checked on it just now and it definitely needs a bit more baking time. (Which is not the recipe’s fault so much as me knowing from experience that this oven needs longer baking times usually.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:12:48am

he is a horrible thing

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:15:28am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:17:28am
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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:19:35am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:21:57am

Starting to leak out that the Feds had a wiretap up and running on Giuliani.

It was only possible because Rudy was conspiring with known Kremlin-backed mobsters outside the U.S. They were able to get the wiretap authorization done via FISA warrant, meaning it was outside the DoJ pipeline and corrupt Bill Barr couldn’t shut it down.

It is amazing the gyrations honest law enforcement have to do to avoid being sabotaged by a corrupt President and his henchmen. But they still do it.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:23:40am

re: #273 Dread Pirate

THIS:

“When the indictment itself says that this conspiracy involved others known and unknown, there are others that are being investigated and likely may be charged,” he continued.

“And I would warn all of these people — including Rudy Giuliani — that when I read this indictment and the level of detail and specificity, I smell not only human informants, but I also smell a wiretap or some form of electronic surveillance,” Figliuzzi explained.

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:23:44am

re: #275 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Carry this over to the shiny new thread Charles just opened!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:25:59am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Oh please. No one is afraid of Ben Shapiro.

That little twit would be knocked flat on his fucking ass from the recoil!

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:29:40am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is a horrible thing

[Embedded content]

Rand in a mock-turtleneck (not a good look, btw)—how appropriate.

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CleverToad  Oct 11, 2019 • 11:44:31am

re: #4 Scout

Stay safe! Have been thinking about you with that walloping storm headed your way.


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