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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:42:30am

get out the vote and make it count

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:48:24am

CLed:

re: #57 lawhawk

The problem though goes beyond the size of the EC to the very purpose of the EC. It was designed to empower states whose white voters enslaved blacks. The entire purpose and rationale was to compromise on the issue of slavery (3/5ths). The only way to truly address is end EC.

Not true. All the states with small populations (e.g. RI, NH, etc., who considered themselves nations) wanted it to protect themselves from being buried by the larger states, irrespective of whether they were slave states or not.

The 3/5 rule was a different thing, and did have the purpose of adding population to slave states.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:50:56am

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:52:16am

He is saying the things that any intelligent person was asking about months ago: what measures can we take to ensure our children are safe when they return to school?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:53:04am

I hope Trump finds good use for the new asshole that Biden has just ripped him…

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Mike Lamb  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:53:11am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

I don’t understand that as an argument against the EC.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:55:45am

re: #6 Mike Lamb

I don’t understand that as an argument against the EC.

Wasn’t meant to be. Meant to be an argument for why the GOP will fight tooth and nail to keep it alive.

In other words for the time being, ending the EC is a pipe dream.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:56:02am

It must be Wednesday

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:56:33am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

Ending the EC, would only affect the presidency. He would be chosen by a majority of the people. The House and Senate would still be chosen the way they are. The Senate would give dispraportionate power to the 42 states with half the population.

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Sinistershade  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:56:37am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

I would argue that’s the current state of play. Only a few swing states usually matter, because only there is a majority/plurality up for grabs. What presidential candidate campaigns in California?

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Kilroy was here  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:56:55am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It must be Wednesday

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Florida Child..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 2, 2020 • 11:59:49am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:07:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:15:27pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:17:17pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I imagine it’s difficult to learn how to descend a ramp in heels, particularly at a certain age and weight.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:18:00pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:19:29pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Wasn’t meant to be. Meant to be an argument for why the GOP will fight tooth and nail to keep it alive.

In other words for the time being, ending the EC is a pipe dream.

Republicans will only be interested in ending the electoral college if they think of doing that as a way to manufacture millions of fake R votes in red states to ‘win’ the national popular vote.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:19:49pm
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ericblair  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:27:33pm

IT’S A HORSE RACE PEOPLE

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aatharuv  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:28:42pm

re: #19 ericblair

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IT’S A HORSE RACE PEOPLE

Given that it depends on a few votes in a few states, Donnie needs to be under the 40% mark before we can start to let up.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:30:21pm

re: #20 aatharuv

Given that it depends on a few votes in a few states, Donnie needs to be under the 40% mark before we can start to let up.

I’m trying for 4%.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:30:44pm

re: #20 aatharuv

Given that it depends on a few votes in a few states, Donnie needs to be under the 40% mark before we can start to let up.

I don’t know if you saw this in the last thread:

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:30:48pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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IIRC, a couple of months ago a photo went around showing Trumps feet while he was sitting. You could see not only the high heels, but also how the lifts made it so his heel was only about half covered by the shoe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:32:03pm

re: #20 aatharuv

Given that it depends on a few votes in a few states, Donnie needs to be under the 40% mark before we can start to let up.

I’m not letting up shit until 11/4/20.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:32:53pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

I imagine it’s difficult to learn how to descend a ramp in heels, particularly at a certain age and weight.

You know who can navigate a ramp in heels? Kamala Harris, Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al.

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aatharuv  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:35:55pm

re: #22 Belafon

I don’t know if you saw this in the last thread:

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Thanks for that, I didn’t see it.

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:37:13pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

But the big states are not necessarily locked as a block into voting for the same party. In theory CA and NY could elect different parties, which would open up ‘flyover country’ to have some effect. If the republican party had anything but disdain to offer to cities, it might get more support in populated areas.

Yes, one person-one vote is going to negatively affect places were there are no people if we’re voting population vs property, but it’s bullshit that, because of the EC, every vote in North Dakota counts the same as three votes in California. That’s truly non-representative.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:37:30pm
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ericblair  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:39:38pm

re: #25 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

You know who can navigate a ramp in heels? Kamala Harris, Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al.

Ginger Rogers could have done it backwards, too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:39:42pm

re: #25 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

You know who can navigate a ramp in heels? Kamala Harris, Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al.

My sister greatly admires Nancy for her ability to walk in these heels. But, Trump’s physical failings are really irrelevant; it’s his psychological failings that have murdered at least 185,000 Americans in this pandemic and contributed to the deaths of several thousand Puerto Ricans from Hurricane Maria. Let’s not forget it is his gruesome mental makeup that is ripping our nation apart and destroying our future, not his multitude of physical flaws.

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:43:26pm

re: #19 ericblair

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IT’S A HORSE RACE PEOPLE

Steve Kornacki is the worst.

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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:44:49pm

re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister greatly admires Nancy for her ability to walk in these heels. But, Trump’s physical failings are really irrelevant; it’s his psychological failings that have murdered at least 185,000 Americans in this pandemic and contributed to the deaths of several thousand Puerto Ricans from Hurricane Maria. Let’s not forget it is his gruesome mental makeup that is ripping our nation apart and destroying our future, not his multitude of physical flaws.

Mental and physical are inseparable. Lying about the physical to hide the mental is what the possibility of a stroke involves. And lying is the biggest issue of this administration.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:46:29pm

A couple of thoughts on the EC.

My take has always been that the framers of the Constitution didn’t trust the rabble when it came to voting, and the EC was a way to protect the elite’s (including the slaveholding elite) control of politics and government. For the first few decades, most states originally had property holding qualification for voting and office holding to keep political participation in the hands of land owners (the thinking being that land owners had more of a stake in the country than everyone else).

I’ve long thought a fix could be that states apportion their EC votes based on popular vote (like a couple of states do already). I think this could avoid an amendment (and maybe be done at the state level?) but am too lazy right now to read the part of the Constitution that deals with the EC.

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:50:02pm

I need to get out and mow the grass. I haven’t been doing a very good job of learning how to be actively retired while in a fucking pandemic.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:50:40pm

Brianna Kiellar continues to kick ass.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:50:45pm
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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:52:17pm

re: #36 lawhawk

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At the end he says we’re ‘rounding the curve.’

Great. We’re supposed to be flattening it.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:52:52pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:54:00pm

re: #33 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I’ve long thought a fix could be that states apportion their EC votes based on popular vote (like a couple of states do already). I think this could avoid an amendment (and maybe be done at the state level?) but am too lazy right now to read the part of the Constitution that deals with the EC.

I believe the only states that do something like that are Maine and Nebraska (both of which have a special district that could be won on its own, separate from the rest of the state’s EC votes).

I recall a sleazy, bad-faith attempt a few years ago when GOPers in a few key swing states (like PA) wanted to apportion EC votes according to popular vote results in those particular states, while all the others conveniently remained winner-take-all.

So the way I see is, either the entire EC apportions each state’s votes according to that particular state’s popular vote results, or no states should.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:54:15pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

My idea of a compromise would be to base the number of electors on the number of House representatives a state has. It would still skew toward smaller states, but not nearly as much.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:54:19pm

re: #33 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

A couple of thoughts on the EC.

My take has always been that the framers of the Constitution didn’t trust the rabble when it came to voting, and the EC was a way to protect the elite’s (including the slaveholding elite) control of politics and government. For the first few decades, most states originally had property holding qualification for voting and office holding to keep political participation in the hands of land owners (the thinking being that land owners had more of a stake in the country than everyone else).

I’ve long thought a fix could be that states apportion their EC votes based on popular vote (like a couple of states do already). I think this could avoid an amendment (and maybe be done at the state level?) but am too lazy right now to read the part of the Constitution that deals with the EC.

The states don’t apportion it by popular vote but by congressional district, so a mini-electoral college: I believe it’s one vote for the candidate who wins a district (let’s think of gerrymandering and how that can play into the allocation) plus the 2 votes (based on Senators) are allocated to whoever wins the popular vote for the state.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:54:29pm

re: #27 stpaulbear

But the big states are not necessarily locked as a block into voting for the same party. In theory CA and NY could elect different parties, which would open up ‘flyover country’ to have some effect. If the republican party had anything but disdain to offer to cities, it might get more support in populated areas.

Yes, one person-one vote is going to negatively affect places were there are no people if we’re voting population vs property, but it’s bullshit that, because of the EC, every vote in North Dakota counts the same as three votes in California. That’s truly non-representative.

One person. One vote. Everyone is represented.

Plus, they elect their own federal Congress critters and representatives. That’s more representation than those in DC.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:56:09pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

I believe the only states that do something like that are Maine and Nebraska (both of which have a special district that could be won on its own, separate from the rest of the state’s EC votes).

I recall a sleazy, bad-faith attempt a few years ago when GOPers in a few key swing states (like PA) wanted to apportion EC votes according to popular vote results in those particular states, while all the others conveniently remained winner-take-all.

So the way I see is, either the entire EC apportions each state’s votes according to that particular state’s popular vote results, or no states should.

That’s how I see it too. Every state should be doing this or go the route to try an amend the Constitution.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 12:57:56pm

re: #10 Sinistershade

I would argue that’s the current state of play. Only a few swing states usually matter, because only there is a majority/plurality up for grabs. What presidential candidate campaigns in California?

All of them. We gots money.

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EPR-radar  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:01:30pm

re: #44 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

All of them. We gots money.

No presidential campaign actually runs in CA. They all fundraise in CA.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:02:26pm

The mystery has been unraveled!

Pretty funny column.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:03:20pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:05:09pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:08:51pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

No presidential campaign actually runs in CA. They all fundraise in CA.

A difference that makes no difference, since they go out among the people and make speeches.

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JC1  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:10:14pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

The states don’t apportion it by popular vote but by congressional district, so a mini-electoral college: I believe it’s one vote for the candidate who wins a district (let’s think of gerrymandering and how that can play into the allocation) plus the 2 votes (based on Senators) are allocated to whoever wins the popular vote for the state.

This is the solution to the EC problem.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Just need a few more states to sign on.

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ericblair  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:10:34pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

I believe the only states that do something like that are Maine and Nebraska (both of which have a special district that could be won on its own, separate from the rest of the state’s EC votes).

I recall a sleazy, bad-faith attempt a few years ago when GOPers in a few key swing states (like PA) wanted to apportion EC votes according to popular vote results in those particular states, while all the others conveniently remained winner-take-all.

So the way I see is, either the entire EC apportions each state’s votes according to that particular state’s popular vote results, or no states should.

There’s no appetite for breaking up EC votes because that effectively makes your state irrelevant for the presidential election. Instead of fighting for all the EC votes, the candidates end up fighting for one or two swingable ones. Not worth it. It would benefit the goopers as a whole to break up Dem and especially Dem-leaning states, but the states won’t do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:12:20pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:14:10pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

….

So the way I see is, either the entire EC apportions each state’s votes according to that particular state’s popular vote results, or no states should.

No — that retains the original problem from the inception of our Constitution: a state receives a particular number of representatives based on its population and accordingly a particular number of EC votes, but then a large percentage of the population for certain states cannot vote but the state still receives that number of electoral votes. There is also, of course, the separate issue of people not voting in an uncontested state because they know that their vote won’t affect the outcome — and that can be true regardless of whether you know the state is supporting your candidate or the opponent.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:16:42pm

re: #38 lawhawk

I am not aware of any of the vaccine players already ramped-up and producing SARS-CoV2 vaccine in significant quantities to be able to cover under 250,000, let alone what they had to produce for 30,000 for the Phase III testing.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:17:44pm

Who had this on their 2020 bingo card?

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:21:53pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

4. “Hell Dynasty”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:22:34pm

re: #54 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am not aware of any of the vaccine players already ramped-up and producing SARS-CoV2 vaccine in significant quantities to be able to cover under 250,000, let alone what they had to produce for 30,000 for the Phase III testing.

That’s because there AREN’T any. This is all just smoke and mirrors.

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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:22:51pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

Wouldn’t it fix the problem, though? I mean, if a state’s popular vote split 55/45 for one candidate, that candidate would get 55% of the EC votes as opposed to 100%. Instead of your state being taken for granted, candidates would have an incentive to pay attention to all votes, and you wouldn’t end up in a situation where a candidate carries 100% of a state’s EC votes due to a third-party spoiler (in fact, under this system, HRC would’ve won in 2016 because she’d have received roughly half of the EC votes in PA/WI/MI instead of none).

And speaking of third-party candidates, wouldn’t EC votes apportioned according to each state’s popular vote make them viable as opposed to guaranteed spoilers? (though I could see how that could create a mess of its own, i.e. no candidate getting a clear majority of EC votes).

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:04pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

“Little BangTheory”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:05pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Who had this on their 2020 bingo card?

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JOWLS, You’ll never go to North Korea again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:20pm

My Internet service is still fritzy. So’s our sewer system (I hope the toilet doesn’t blow up again).

re: #68 sagehen

Maybe some of our liberal billionaires can subsidize relocating a bunch of liberals to sparsely-populated midwestern states…

Well, there’s also the sparsely-populated liberal states (like VT and RI) which would also be opposed to eliminating the EC.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:32pm

re: #59 Belafon

“Little BangTheory”

“Failure to Launch”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:43pm

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:23:51pm

re: #54 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am not aware of any of the vaccine players already ramped-up and producing SARS-CoV2 vaccine in significant quantities to be able to cover under 250,000, let alone what they had to produce for 30,000 for the Phase III testing.

Moron’s a moron — he doesn’t bother himself with such details.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:24:13pm

re: #58 Interesting Times

Wouldn’t it fix the problem, though? I mean, if a state’s popular vote split 55/45 for one candidate, that candidate would get 55% of the EC votes as opposed to 100%. Instead of your state being taken for granted, candidates would have an incentive to pay attention to all votes, and you wouldn’t end up in a situation where a candidate carries 100% of a state’s EC votes due to a third-party spoiler (in fact, under this system, HRC would’ve won in 2016 because she’d have received roughly half of the EC votes in PA/WI/MI instead of none).

And speaking of third-party candidates, wouldn’t EC votes apportioned according to each state’s popular vote make them viable as opposed to guaranteed spoilers? (though I could see how that could create a mess of its own, i.e. no candidate getting a clear majority of EC votes).

This gets back to the problem of districting, where I can take a state that divides 55/45, and award 5 of the 6 districts to one person.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:25:11pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Who had this on their 2020 bingo card?

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My Big Fat Militarized Wedding

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:25:44pm

He is so “strong” that he had to hide in a bunker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:25:56pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:27:23pm

Link
Book title at link: “The President is a Sick Man”

A reminder that hiding Presidential health issues is nothing new. An interesting glimpse into the Grover Cleveland presidency and media climate.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:28:19pm

Can someone please explain to me this attempted “joke” that the fast food server was having none of? I’m guessing this guy was trying to record some kind of internet meme when she told him to fuck off, but I don’t “get it”

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:28:24pm

re: #67 The Pie Overlord!

He is so “strong” that he had to hide in a bunker.

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Wheeler is moving out of his condo in consideration of his neighbors who didn’t sign up for protesters outside the building. Trump wouldn’t know the first thing about doing something for others. Fuck Needy Amin.

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Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:28:25pm

re: #65 Belafon

This gets back to the problem of districting, where I can take a state that divides 55/45, and award 5 of the 6 districts to one person.

Right, I was envisioning the end of districting as well and going purely by vote totals, i.e. if a state has 20 EC votes, and the state’s popular vote is a squeaker like 50.5% to 49.5%, each candidate gets 10 EC votes .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:31:24pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:32:29pm

Great. Someone told him about emojis.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:32:35pm

re: #72 Interesting Times

Whole numbers are not codified in the Constitution Run the fractional scheme for elections and round up for representatives

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:34:14pm

re: #70 The Pie Overlord!

Can someone please explain to me this attempted “joke” that the fast food server was having none of? I’m guessing this guy was trying to record some kind of internet meme when she told him to fuck off, but I don’t “get it”

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piratedan  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:34:27pm

re: #33 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I think it all boils down to how you classify the issue…. if the means behind it end up being the cold calculations of power vs people then you have to determine which might be the most fair reconciliation of the problem…

the first hurdle is to remove or amend the laws on the books since 1911 that perpetuate the functionality of the EC as it currently is… so if we can’t do that, then an alternative solution would be to finally grant representation to the District of Columbia and perhaps Puerto Rico and bring under consideration how to also deal with the political representation of locations like Guam, the Northern Marianas and the US Virgin Islands. For the last few decades, while these people have the franchise and a certain amount of self-determination, perhaps allowing them to actually have voices is needed. Not saying that these people would automagically be inclined to a Dem party agenda, but its a mechanism to at least change the dynamic and force a real discussion on how to form a more representative government and if the congressional ranks need to be amended to lend each voice of the citizenry with more representative government.

Just saying, I believe that there are more people in DC than live in Wyoming, and the same is true with Puerto Rico, which is more populous than many of our more rural states. I would suggest that if we bring forth the question of allowing these citizens to have their voices heard, it would lead to a larger discussion of the EC and its merits.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:36:57pm

re: #76 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I did not see that reply. Is that even an actual thing?

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JC1  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:38:07pm

re: #54 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am not aware of any of the vaccine players already ramped-up and producing SARS-CoV2 vaccine in significant quantities to be able to cover under 250,000, let alone what they had to produce for 30,000 for the Phase III testing.

Part of the accelerated process is to manufacture millions of doses of promising vaccines before the testing is done. If phase III trial is a success, we have a ready supply; if phase III fails, they get scrapped. That’s the theory at least.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:38:19pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Great. Someone told him about emojis.

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Like he really needed something to make his tweets even less dignified.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:38:54pm

EC arguments are inner baseball. Why should a country the size of the USA, with 21st century technology, contain 51 imaginary “nations” within it? Evolve towards the dozen or so administrative districts that are actually needed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:39:24pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:40:24pm

re: #70 The Pie Overlord!

Looking around at various memes online there are a bunch of “Did somebody say chicken?” images with photos of Black people. Much like the old racist postcards featuring watermelon. She wasn’t having any of it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:41:08pm

re: #33 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

A couple of thoughts on the EC.

My take has always been that the framers of the Constitution didn’t trust the rabble when it came to voting, and the EC was a way to protect the elite’s (including the slaveholding elite) control of politics and government. For the first few decades, most states originally had property holding qualification for voting and office holding to keep political participation in the hands of land owners (the thinking being that land owners had more of a stake in the country than everyone else).

I’ve long thought a fix could be that states apportion their EC votes based on popular vote (like a couple of states do already). I think this could avoid an amendment (and maybe be done at the state level?) but am too lazy right now to read the part of the Constitution that deals with the EC.

GOP has been all for this… in the states that they normally lose all the EC votes in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:43:29pm

re: #18 gocart mozart

The ugliness we’re seeing across social media and on our TVs has always existed in this country. What is new is the way it’s overtly exploited by cynics disguised as public servants.

and it used to be that expressing ugly opinions revealed what a hideous individual you were. Now people can hide their identities in the Internet, nothing prevents them from showing their true trollish ugliness.

“Give a man a mask and he’ll tell you the truth”

-Oscar Wilde

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:44:01pm

re: #83 jaunte

Looking around at various memes online there are a bunch of “Did somebody say chicken?” images with photos of Black people. Much like the old racist postcards featuring watermelon. She wasn’t having any of it.

I Googled “Did Somebody Say” and it came up with a Snoop Dogg song about eating fast food.

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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:45:26pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

I believe the maternal death rate is higher in Texas. Ted has blood on his hands.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:45:40pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Take Un for the Team

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:47:17pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

EC arguments are inner baseball. Why should a country the size of the USA, with 21st century technology, contain 51 imaginary “nations” within it? Evolve towards the dozen or so administrative districts that are actually needed.

Many more than 51. I don’t know if you were counting DC or PR, but those two make 52. Then there are still the outlying islands in the Pacific. Then there are the Native American tribes with semi-autonomy (in the small stuff.)

But you’re point is a good one. People who want to hang onto 18th century arrangements in the 21st century are fighting against the current.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:47:51pm

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Take Un for the Team

Now you’re making me IL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:48:14pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

The Dow Jones Industrial just closed above 29,000! You are so lucky to have me as your President😉With Joe Hiden’ it would crash

And it will because they will not have you and Mnuchin pumping billions of oversight-free dollars into it to keep it artificially afloat…and the more you pump into it, the bigger the crash will be when the go-juice runs out.

Which you will then blame on Biden

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A Mom Anon  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:50:38pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

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JC1  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:52:10pm

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it will because they will not have you and Mnuchin pumping billions of oversight-free dollars into it to keep it artificially afloat…and the more you pump into it, the bigger the crash will be when the go-juice runs out.

Which you will then blame on Biden

This isn’t even a Trump thing, it’s the FED.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:52:25pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

moral issues are more important and it is God’s will that Jezebels bear the consequences of their harlotry

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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:52:30pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

It’s enough to make one think Ted and his ilk have no concern whatsoever for the lives of women.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:52:56pm

Allen West is having a covid party this evening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:54:08pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

so would Texas and several other southern states

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:54:23pm

re: #89 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Many more than 51. I don’t know if you were counting DC or PR, but those two make 52. Then there are still the outlying islands in the Pacific. Then there are the Native American tribes with semi-autonomy (in the small stuff.)

But you’re point is a good one. People who want to hang onto 18th century arrangements in the 21st century are fighting against the current.

The dozen or so needed districts already exist in rough draft—the 11(12) Federal Administrative Regions. Rationalize them, devolve power to them, and let the states gracefully atrophy.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:55:46pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

It’s enough to make one think Ted and his ilk have no concern whatsoever for the lives of women.

They’re more concerned with their immortal, if intangible, souls. Ted should have been a missionary in Papua.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:56:02pm

re: #96 jaunte

Allen West is having a covid party this evening.

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Coming to a Republican nomination near you.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:56:24pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

None of those are important in the “no abortion, no exceptions” crowd. God’s will and whatnot.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:57:19pm

Texas Republicans don’t care about the health of anyone but themselves and their donors.

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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:58:02pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

They’re more concerned with their immortal, if intangible, souls. Ted should have been a missionary in Papua.

Have mercy on the Papuans.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:58:42pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

Have mercy on the Papuans.

They probably wouldn’t have elected him to the Senate.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:58:59pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

Savita Halappanavar would like a word with you, Ted. Oh wait, she can’t, she’s dead.

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EPR-radar  Sep 2, 2020 • 1:59:42pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

The death and complications rates from pregnancy are among the many compelling reasons it shouldn’t be forced on anyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:00:56pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

The death and complications rates from pregnancy are among the many compelling reasons it shouldn’t be forced on anyone.

which is why those who fail to practice ABSTINENCE ONLY should be subject to God’s judgement…

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:01:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:01:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:05:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:05:20pm

Biden is good at talking criminal justice issues. On the Q/A section onw.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:06:09pm

Lincoln Project cutting straight to the point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:06:24pm
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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:06:33pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200830 edition ——————————>
“A Weekend in Seven Photos”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:06:35pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

Have mercy on the Papuans.

They would eat him up in the Mendi highlands.

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gwangung  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:06:43pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

So would black women in the US, Ted, you asshole. Their death rate in pregnancy is unconscionably high because doctors don’t listen to them (see: Serena Williams).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:07:10pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

More from Trump’s speech: “American warriors did not defeat fascism and oppression overseas only to watch our freedoms be trampled by violent mobs here at home.”

Because Antifa = Full-on fascism. Got it.

And BLM = White Lives are Worthless. Ditto.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:10:59pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content] This is going to be seen as the worst presidential dereliction of duty in US history. So horrible it beggars the imagination.

this is part of the problem we now face.

the scale is so large that a good sized chunk of what we might still call ‘well meaning’ people cannot understand or imagine visualize it into any sort of meaningful context

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:11:25pm
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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:12:43pm

re: #25 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

You know who can navigate a ramp in heels? Kamala Harris, Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al.

backwards, etc…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:12:54pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Great. Someone told him about emojis.

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Someone should also tell him that 20% of Americans own 93% of all stocks. The other 80% are worrying about their JOBS.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:12:57pm

re: #102 jaunte

Texas Republicans don’t care about the health of anyone but themselves and their donors.

They don’t care about the health of people of color. Years ago our RW Texas brother kept on explaining that if you looked at the white population the numbers were fine — it’s as though minorities don’t count at all in the GOP mindset. But they are definitely terrified of this becoming a nation where the white population is a minority.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:13:04pm

re: #29 ericblair

Ginger Rogers could have done it backwards, too.

ah gmta

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:14:25pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:14:46pm

re: #121 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Someone should also tell him that 20% of Americans own 93% of all stocks. The other 80% are worrying about their JOBS.

a handful are worried about the stocks that make up their retirement plan, but the immediate issues of paying mortgage/rent/bills/buying groceries are generally more pressing…

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:14:58pm

Al Green - Let’s Stay Together

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:15:14pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:15:15pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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As compared to turning funerals into church services including a call to be saved.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:16:06pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Souper.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:17:42pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:18:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:18:55pm

jeebus

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:19:08pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My Internet service is still fritzy. So’s our sewer system (I hope the toilet doesn’t blow up again).

Well, there’s also the sparsely-populated liberal states (like VT and RI) which would also be opposed to eliminating the EC.

are they cross connected?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:19:26pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oh, fuck off Candace.

If I want someone to talk shit about Trump at my funeral, that’s MY choice.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:20:13pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

EC arguments are inner baseball. Why should a country the size of the USA, with 21st century technology, contain 51 imaginary “nations” within it? Evolve towards the dozen or so administrative districts that are actually needed.

Beg to differ. CA has about 12% of the US population, and it’s getting hard to govern. Consolidating some sparsely populated states is probably a good idea, but 12 is, IMHO, too few. (You and I won’t live to see it either way, of course.)

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:20:27pm
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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:21:02pm

re: #33 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

A couple of thoughts on the EC.

My take has always been that the framers of the Constitution didn’t trust the rabble when it came to voting, and the EC was a way to protect the elite’s (including the slaveholding elite) control of politics and government. For the first few decades, most states originally had property holding qualification for voting and office holding to keep political participation in the hands of land owners (the thinking being that land owners had more of a stake in the country than everyone else).

I’ve long thought a fix could be that states apportion their EC votes based on popular vote (like a couple of states do already). I think this could avoid an amendment (and maybe be done at the state level?) but am too lazy right now to read the part of the Constitution that deals with the EC.

This is mostly right from all the reading I’ve done on the era. I’d also add, there was a while where the state legislatures didn’t even have elections for electors, they just selected them, themselves. It wasn’t until 1880 that every state had electoral college slates tied to the popular vote.

As for the idea of proportional allotment. I kicked that idea around for a bit. The problem is in smaller states, it’s hard to do. You have three votes and and someone wins 52-48, they get a 2-1 win in the electoral college. I also did the math once, I think, based on maybe 2016, and it still opened the door for the person with fewer actual votes to win.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:21:12pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

So would the communities of color in our country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:22:05pm

re: #131 jaunte

When I talk to my non-white friends about race issues and inequality in policing, my question is never “Have you ever been harassed by police?”, it’s “How many times have you been harassed by police?”

And almost without fail, they have a number.

Shut your white privileged ass up, Bill.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:22:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:23:00pm

re: #135 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Beg to differ. CA has about 12% of the US population, and it’s getting hard to govern. Consolidating some sparsely populated states is probably a good idea, but 12 is, IMHO, too few. (You and I won’t live to see it either way, of course.)

It’s probably hard to govern because parts of it belong in a few natural districts, not one accidental state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:23:05pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:23:51pm

Question: Is a soup loving Trump supporter a literal…soup nazi?

/

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:24:07pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:24:37pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

Warp drive has not been invented yet…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:25:39pm

re: #140 jaunte

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:25:48pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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had a doctor’s visit yesterday and we discussed this
actual doctors get, you know, actual ‘inside baseball’ news
he said it’s possible there could be a vaccine by year end
so many different companies and entities are working on so many different projects and approaches.

then he was quite clear about the three things we wont know
- is it effective - ie does it work? - we wont know because all these trials are for too short a period of time
- how long does it work for - will we need, say boosters every 6 mos - again we wont know for the same reason
- is it safe? he says if a minuscule portion of people have serious permanent side effects everyone will stop taking it and no one will trust another one (as we’ve said here a bunch of times) - again for the same reason

so could there be one by year end? yeah
could it be deployed? likely not a chance

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:26:03pm

re: #136 jaunte

Asked about Trump’s comments about a plane full of thugs, AG William Barr says a different thing: “we received numerous reports” about individuals coming into DC from elsewhere.

Then, when Wolf Blitzer presses, concedes he doesn’t know exactly what Trump is referring to.

Even Barr is secretly ashamed of this steaming pile that Trump has left at his doorstep and is trying to avoid being drawn into it at all costs…

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:26:21pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Reminds me of this twitter gem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:26:30pm

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Warp drive has not been invented yet…

No and in the Star Trek timeline there’s a third world war that kills over 600 million people before it is…

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:26:37pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

It’s probably hard to govern because parts of it belong in a few natural districts, not one accidental state.

As I said a few days ago, California is basically three or four states, depending on how you view it. There’s a north/south divide and a coastal/inland divide. It’s why some of the housing bills they tried passing a couple weeks ago failed.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:27:41pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Because the GOP and Trump have been known to listen to science. //

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:28:11pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:29:33pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sagehen  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:30:51pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Even in the video he’s embedded, they say 12-18 months.

Which for a disease that hit us early in 2020, means the vaccine may be in the early part of 2021. At best.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:31:07pm

re: #121 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Someone should also tell him that 20% of Americans own 93% of all stocks. The other 80% are worrying about their JOBS.

(nobody should tell him)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:31:15pm

re: #151 KGxvi

As I said a few days ago, California is basically three or four states, depending on how you view it. There’s a north/south divide and a coastal/inland divide. It’s why some of the housing bills they tried passing a couple weeks ago failed.

This is not a new idea—it’s been toyed with for decades. It showed up in a mainfame/ibm-card game called River Valley by 1970 or so. (The player assumed a social role, like Labor Leader, and submitted his moves as a card deck, weekly.)

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:31:35pm

Trump is absolutely doing Putin’s bidding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:31:51pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is exactly the weather I experienced when I was in Smoo!

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:32:17pm

re: #38 lawhawk

lawhawk #maskingforafriend
@lawhawk
One would have to be a sucker (born every minute) to believe the baffling bulkshit of Trumpworld spewing that they would have all this done just 2 days before election day.

Predictably, the GOP will tout this vaporware even though there’s no evidence any of this is ongoing.

Trump is requiring that the manufacturers sign a pledge that no one will die from the vaccine until at least three days after administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:32:22pm

re: #151 KGxvi

As I said a few days ago, California is basically three or four states, depending on how you view it. There’s a north/south divide and a coastal/inland divide. It’s why some of the housing bills they tried passing a couple weeks ago failed.

As I recall, there was even talk of accepting California into the Union as two separate states.

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b_sharp  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:32:43pm

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Warp drive has not been invented yet…

Seems many people don’t need an external drive to be warped.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:32:43pm

re: #131 jaunte

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does bill kknow the phrase is ‘deep-seated”?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:33:17pm

re: #153 jaunte

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If Wolf Blitzer is getting under your skin, the position you are arguing is pretty stinking bad.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:33:20pm

re: #163 dangerman

Probably, I don’t know who wrote it that way.

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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:33:52pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

“Pregnancy is not a life threatening illness”

Africa would like a word, Ted.

Don’t have to go to Africa:

According to a report out Thursday from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Vital Statistics System, the 2018 maternal mortality rate was 17.4 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births — meaning 658 women died in 2018. The figure includes deaths during pregnancy, at birth, or within 42 days of birth.

The rate once again put the US last among similarly wealthy countries, according to Eugene Declercq, a professor of community health sciences at Boston University School of Public Health. If you compare the CDC figure to other countries in the World Health Organization’s latest maternal mortality ranking, the US would rank 55th, just behind Russia (17 per 100,000) and just ahead of Ukraine (19 per 100,000). And “If you limit the comparison to those similarly wealthy countries,” such as Germany, “the US would rank 10th — out of 10 countries.”

vox.com

And then there’s infant mortality:

The United States infant mortality rate is consistently higher than other developed countries, 1.5 times higher than the average (3.8 deaths per 1,000 live births) among Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development countries.

americashealthrankings.org

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:33:56pm

re: #164 Mike Lamb

Barr has no good answer for why mail in voting is working fine where it’s in operation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:34:19pm

re: #158 jaunte

This is not just an attack on the ICC; it’s an attack on all of international law. The move utterly delegitimizes targeted sanctions, one of our most powerful tools for punishing human rights abusers, war criminals, and others who violate international law.

Playing to his America First base.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:34:26pm

re: #158 jaunte

Trump is absolutely doing Putin’s bidding.

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That and he just can’t help himself when it comes to going after colored ladies.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:34:38pm

re: #144 jaunte

It’s a total fiction that Barr has declined over the last 25 years. This is who he has always been. He was terrible during Bush 41, promoting support for those involved in the Iran-Contra debacle. It’s just now that he finally has a president who fully supports his antediluvian views.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:35:08pm

Pastafazoola

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:35:31pm

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even Barr is secretly ashamed of this steaming pile that Trump has left at his doorstep and is trying to avoid being drawn into it at all costs…

too late

much, much, much too late

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:36:16pm

re: #137 KGxvi

This is mostly right from all the reading I’ve done on the era. I’d also add, there was a while where the state legislatures didn’t even have elections for electors, they just selected them, themselves. It wasn’t until 1880 that every state had electoral college slates tied to the popular vote.

As for the idea of proportional allotment. I kicked that idea around for a bit. The problem is in smaller states, it’s hard to do. You have three votes and and someone wins 52-48, they get a 2-1 win in the electoral college. I also did the math once, I think, based on maybe 2016, and it still opened the door for the person with fewer actual votes to win.

Good to know my PhD in early American history hasn’t gone to waste. 😉

Glad you’re sticking around with the rest of us. I look forward to your commentary.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:36:42pm

re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a total fiction that Barr has declined over the last 25 years. This is who he has always been. He was terrible during Bush 41, promoting support for those involved in the Iran-Contra debacle. It’s just now that he finally has a president who fully supports his antediluvian views.

I think all that has happened is that he has stayed to the far right within the GOP, and simply kept sliding with the party. Whatever the contemporary far right is, Barr will be there.

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Cheechako  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:37:16pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Great. Someone told him about emojis.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:37:45pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

It’s probably hard to govern because parts of it belong in a few natural districts, not one accidental state.

But if your new districts include splitting CA, you probably end up with more than 12 districts anyway.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:38:04pm

re: #167 jaunte

Barr has no good answer for why mail in voting is working fine where it’s in operation.

can you point to any cases where this fraud has occurred so we can review and report on it?

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a total fiction that Barr has declined over the last 25 years. This is who he has always been. He was terrible during Bush 41, promoting support for those involved in the Iran-Contra debacle. It’s just now that he finally has a president who fully supports his antediluvian views.

thank you
saved me the trouble

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:39:21pm

re: #176 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

But if your new districts include splitting CA, you probably end up with more than 12 districts anyway.

Not when all the dust and grass in the middle becomes “The Middle”.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:40:32pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

What a smug and ignorant thing for him to say. There’s a host of conditions that can endanger the health of a mother during pregnancy. Some are deadly. He should have to sit through a 12 hour class about human reproduction, pregnancy and birth. And then pass a test. And then STFU forever about women’s health issues of any fucking kind.

eclampsia with both of mine, both life-threatening. Husband took steps, but if I’d gotten pregnant again I was looking at an incredibly dangerous pregnancy. Abortion would have been required. I’d really prefer a pill, Ted….and to not die.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:41:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:42:01pm

I’m off to secure our remote voter registration table at the library. I will never throttle back from Trump, because I’m always 2 points behind.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:42:02pm
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:42:59pm

It’s so frustrating (and by frustrating I mean sends me into a white-hot rage) that DeJoy will simply ignore it.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:43:35pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Not when all the dust and grass in the middle becomes “The Middle”.

I fear that would be physically too big to govern. Even if they somehow got broadband.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:44:43pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Not when all the dust and grass in the middle becomes “The Middle”.

SLO and north becomes part of the Pacific NW up through coastal Oregon and Washington. Santa Maria south to Mexico is its own region. Inland Central Valley/Imperial joins with the desert southwest - NV, AZ, NM, UT, up into Idaho and eastern OR/WA.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:44:49pm

re: #180 BlueGrl21

eclampsia with both of mine, both life-threatening. Husband took steps, but if I’d gotten pregnant again I was looking at an incredibly dangerous pregnancy. Abortion would have been required. I’d really prefer a pill, Ted….and to not die.

im a man so i know what my opinion is worth in this discussion

which is it’s none of ted’s effing business, no way no how.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:46:47pm

re: #184 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

It’s so frustrating (and by frustrating I mean sends me into a white-hot rage) that DeJoy will simply ignore it.

why call it a subpoena, meaning “under penalty” when there is no penalty for ignoring one.

might as well call it “emoluments clause” or “conflict of interest”…

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:46:59pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:47:57pm

Souprise attack!!!

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:50:44pm

Ok, so, since I’m bored, here’s my proposal for a popular vote amendment (based on the proposed Every Vote Counts Amendment):

Section 1. The President and Vice President shall be directly elected by the people of the United States, including those residing in the territories and outlaying possessions of the United States. The right to vote for President and Vice President shall not be infringed due to residency within or without the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

Section 2. The electors in each State or territory shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures. Electors abroad shall meet the qualifications as stated in preceding Amendments to this Constitution. This Section shall not be construed to limit or restrict the right to vote as declared in preceding Amendments.

Section 3. The persons having the greatest number of votes for President and Vice President shall be elected. Each elector shall cast a single vote jointly applicable to President and Vice President. Names of candidates may not be joined unless they shall have consented thereto and no candidate may consent to the candidate’s name being joined with that of more than one other person.

Section 4. Congress shall by law provide a manner for voting by citizens outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. In any case, any qualified elector abroad shall be entitled to case a vote for president at any United States Embassy or Consulate.

Section 5. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any candidate for President or Vice President before the day on which the President-elect or Vice President-elect has been chosen, and for the case of a tie in any election.

Section 6. This article shall apply with respect to any election for President and Vice President held after the expiration of the 1-year period which begins on the date of the ratification of this article.

Weirdly, I can’t find the text of the Bayh-Celler Amendment that was proposed after 1968 (which, I’m guessing a third party nominee winning electoral votes would probably be enough to scare Republicans into supporting an amendment).

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:53:33pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I recall, there was even talk of accepting California into the Union as two separate states.

There’s been a few attempts at this, but it never really goes anywhere. And breaking up the state would be a logistical nightmare.

Wherever you draw the lines, you’re going to run into issues with people suddenly living in one state and working in another. Not to mention the nightmare that would come for a lot of businesses/professionals needing new licenses, needing to be reorganized, and the like.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:56:14pm

Random nutjob tweet of the day

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:57:33pm

So Wolf Blitzer went in on Barr today?

I might just go to bed now. That’s more than enough weirdness for one day.

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 2:58:08pm

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why call it a subpoena, meaning “under penalty” when there is no penalty for ignoring one.

might as well call it “emoluments clause” or “conflict of interest”…

That DC Circuit opinion the other day basically dared Congress to use its inherent contempt power. Unfortunately, I don’t think the Dem leadership in the House would be willing to go that far (the GOP leadership, I suspect would, if the roles were reversed).

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Greup  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:01:19pm

Don’t follow strange dictators just because they can sing

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

Deep fakes will be the end of democracy

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:03:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:04:37pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

That and he just can’t help himself when it comes to going after colored ladies.

especially when they are smarter and more respected than he is

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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:07:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:10:12pm

Trump just tweeted out another batshit insane video.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:17:16pm
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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:18:46pm

Dad’s gonna be maaad….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:22:40pm

wrenchwench! this is so awesome!

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John Hughes  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:23:02pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, if you end the EC, you basically hand electoral power over to a few states, leaving the other 40 or so in a perpetual state of being “flyover country”.

No you fucking don’t.

You hand power to the people, not to the administrative regions where they happen to live.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:24:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:26:10pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:26:52pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rees-Mogglets

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John Hughes  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:27:08pm

re: #9 Belafon

Ending the EC, would only affect the presidency. He would be chosen by a majority of the people. The House and Senate would still be chosen the way they are. The Senate would give dispraportionate power to the 42 states with half the population.

Which is another thing that needs to be fixed. Delicately, obviously, but it still needs to be fixed.

The “united states” is over. It’s been over for 150 odd years. The “US” is one country, it needs to grow up and accept that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:27:39pm

re: #78 The Pie Overlord!

I did not see that reply. Is that even an actual thing?

Isn’t every wierd ass thing a thing? 🤣

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John Hughes  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:28:13pm

re: #10 Sinistershade

I would argue that’s the current state of play. Only a few swing states usually matter, because only there is a majority/plurality up for grabs. What presidential candidate campaigns in California?

Exactly. Currently land votes, not people. That’s indefensible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:28:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:31:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:33:53pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:34:08pm

The problem with arguing that we need the EC because a popular vote system would mean presidential candidates only appealing to a few states…is that they do that already under the EC. If anything, it’s become worse in recent years as the number of “swing states” has grown smaller due to increasing partisanship, so that candidates focus on a handful of the 50 states where they are enough swing voters left to make such appeals seem worthwhile.

It’s what led to all the yelling and screaming at Hillary after 2016, as she had bypassed “safe” blue states to appeal to red populations in “swing” states.

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Sinistershade  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:34:21pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Monty Python: The Upper-Class Twit of the Year

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:34:25pm

So in today’s, “Good news, bad news: Minnesota edition,” the bad news is that a man infected with COVID-19 at Sturgis has died in Minnesota, the first such victim in our state. However, in good news, we avoided becoming Wisconsin, when a judge threw out a lawsuit brought by 13 infamous Republican lawmakers seeking to end Governor Walz’s peacetime emergency declaration and revoke his power to direct the pandemic response. Fuck you, GOP. Neener neener.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:38:05pm

Perfect!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:38:17pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Other entities might need to be involved to make it work: Charities, Sports teams, Corporations, all of the above?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:38:27pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’ll be even worse of the vaccines require refrigeration like the Influenza vaccine does. The NIH/Moderna vaccine requires refrigeration, I don’t know about the others from AstraZeneca/Oxford and the Pfizer/German-sourced variant.

There’s already screeching about one of the vaccines using a cell-line that came from an aborted fetus, which will cause many evangelicals/Catholics to refuse it.

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John Hughes  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:39:14pm

re: #40 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

My idea of a compromise would be to base the number of electors on the number of House representatives a state has. It would still skew toward smaller states, but not nearly as much.

That might be ok, but only if the electoral votes were split based on the popular vote.

“Winner takes all” is just wrong.

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:39:21pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

The problem with arguing that we need the EC because a popular vote system would mean presidential candidates only appealing to a few states…is that they do that already under the EC. If anything, it’s become worse in recent years as the number of “swing states” has grown smaller due to increasing partisanship, so that candidates focus on a handful of the 50 states where they are enough swing voters left to make such appeals seem worthwhile.

It’s what led to all the yelling and screaming at Hillary after 2016, as she had bypassed “safe” blue states to appeal to red populations in “swing” states.

It’s an incredibly stupid argument though… in 2016 Clinton had no chance of winning Texas, so she had no reason to campaign there. Same for Trump in California. But with a popular vote, the states no longer become winner take all - so Clinton only has to close the gap in Texas, and Trump only has to close the gap in California. Same is true of Wyoming or Vermont on the other end of the population spectrum. If anything, it widens the field for both parties by shifting focus from a few close states (it doesn’t matter in 2000 if Florida is tied +/-500 votes) to a national strategy (instead, Bush is focused on trying to make California and Illinois 55-45 instead of 60-40).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:40:33pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:42:07pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wouldn’t put it past one of the shitheads at the WH to have put this idea in his head with the goal of producing voter fraud just to have a talking point on Election Night when they push to disqualify all mail ballots.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:45:11pm

I’m seeing an NY Times headline that the CDC is telling states to prepare to distribute a vaccine around election time. Is that one of the topics under discussion? If so, I’m imagining that means that Trump has directed the FDA to use their emergency authorization powers as close to the election as possible to push whatever Trump’s flavor of the hour is into circulation, making him look like the 11th hour savior. I hope to God this doesn’t work. I cannot physically stand four more years of this asshole, this shitty administration, and the added strain of whatever fallout comes from the vaccine being released before trials are completed.

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KGxvi  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:47:08pm

re: #224 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m seeing an NY Times headline that the CDC is telling states to prepare to distribute a vaccine around election time. Is that one of the topics under discussion? If so, I’m imagining that means that Trump has directed the FDA to use their emergency authorization powers as close to the election as possible to push whatever Trump’s flavor of the hour is into circulation, making him look like the 11th hour savior. I hope to God this doesn’t work. I cannot physically stand four more years of this asshole, this shitty administration, and the added strain of whatever fallout comes from the vaccine being released before trials are completed.

I was reading the other day that something like half of voters plan to vote before election day, either by mail/absentee or via in person early voting. Trump really isn’t a strategic thinker, is he?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:47:26pm

re: #207 jaunte

Rees-Mogglets

Children of the Con.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:47:38pm

re: #225 KGxvi

I was reading the other day that something like half of voters plan to vote before election day, either by mail/absentee or via in person early voting. Trump really isn’t a strategic thinker, is he?

FTFY, which also answers your rhetorical question.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:49:56pm

re: #219 Eric The Fruit Bat

There’s already screeching about one of the vaccines using a cell-line that came from an aborted fetus, which will cause many evangelicals/Catholics to refuse it.

👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

Toodles.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:50:54pm

re: #186 i(m)p(each)sos

What may keep California in its current configuration is the arcane, big money water rights allocations assigned by state and feds based on California’s current borders . Splitting the state puts those deals at risk and enough uncertainty will kill in favor of status quo for big agriculture, municipalities and tech

2018: Anza Mountains west of Palm Desert, CA

The people making the big money will scheme to a unfavorable situations for one or more of the newly created states.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:51:10pm

re: #224 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m seeing an NY Times headline that the CDC is telling states to prepare to distribute a vaccine around election time. Is that one of the topics under discussion? If so, I’m imagining that means that Trump has directed the FDA to use their emergency authorization powers as close to the election as possible to push whatever Trump’s flavor of the hour is into circulation, making him look like the 11th hour savior. I hope to God this doesn’t work. I cannot physically stand four more years of this asshole, this shitty administration, and the added strain of whatever fallout comes from the vaccine being released before trials are completed.

He hasn’t directed anyone to do anything that doesn’t enrich someone in TrumpWorld, preferable Donny himself. He just wants to be able to make a relatively credible announcement (meaning that someone else vouches for the vaccine so Trump has a fall guy).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:51:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:53:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:57:34pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 3:59:30pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:01:20pm

re: #224 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m seeing an NY Times headline that the CDC is telling states to prepare to distribute a vaccine around election time. Is that one of the topics under discussion?

Of course this is Hair Furor’s plan - it always has been his plan - why else Operation Warp Speed? Right now there are three vaccine candidates that are in Stage III: NIH/Moderna (US), AstraZeneca/Oxford(UK), and Pfizer/BioNTech(DE). I believe that the Oxford one will actually undergo a challenge round where those injected will be exposed to a live sample and see what the response is; I have not heard of either the US or DE vaccines undergoing the such a trial. Of course, both China (SinoVac) and Russia (Sputnik) have rolled their own captive vaccines and have been using them on their military forces.

Both NIH/Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech will require ultra-low temperatures, so there’s a strike against them.

At least I got my influenza vaccine over the weekend - thankfully, my employer covers it 100%.

Remember: many medications the FDA issued emergency approval for to treat COVID-19 turn out to be duds, if not outright dangerous.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:02:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:02:23pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:02:37pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WUT

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:03:34pm

Planefulla Thugs sounds like it would a have been a solid ’90s Hip Hop group.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:04:53pm

re: #137 KGxvi

As for the idea of proportional allotment. I kicked that idea around for a bit. The problem is in smaller states, it’s hard to do. You have three votes and and someone wins 52-48, they get a 2-1 win in the electoral college. I also did the math once, I think, based on maybe 2016, and it still opened the door for the person with fewer actual votes to win.

I remember my college stats class that pointed out if there was a proportional representation system in the electoral college Bryan would have defeated McKinley in 1896, Hughes would have defeated Wilson in 1916, Truman would have been barely elected by the House in 1948 and Nixon would have defeated Kennedy in 1960.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:06:33pm

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Other entities might need to be involved to make it work: Charities, Sports teams, Corporations, all of the above?

Through some magic of Federal kickbacks, our Publix supermarket pharmacy profits by giving Wife and I our annual flu shot and two 10-dollar grocery cards.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:10:44pm

What. A. Fucking. Snowflake.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:14:41pm

dinner:

vegetable pie (with gruyere cheese on top)
almond buns (muffin tops)

yes i gloat when i cook

but of course y’all are welcome

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mmmirele  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:19:06pm

re: #54 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am not aware of any of the vaccine players already ramped-up and producing SARS-CoV2 vaccine in significant quantities to be able to cover under 250,000, let alone what they had to produce for 30,000 for the Phase III testing.

This is going to be worse than the fictional vaccine “Phalanx” in the novel “World War Z.” Phalanx was a perfectly good anti-rabies vaccine that was repurposed as an anti-Solanum (anti-zombie virus) vaccine. It worked great for rabies, it was complete and utter shit for Solanum. Of course, you can imagine what happened. At the end of the novel, the guy who had sold Phalanx as an anti-zombie vaccine was hiding out in Antarctica and paying rent to the Russians so he wouldn’t be hauled in for crimes against humanity.

Why am I getting that “life imitates art” feeling?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:19:54pm

Le Petit Dauphin projet comme une IMAX dans l’espace cosmique!

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:24:31pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:25:16pm

re: #245 The Pie Overlord!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:26:02pm

Son1 points to this video as an example of rock contrarianism. When things go to shit the headbangers decide to be uplifting.

Shinedown - Atlas Falls (Lyric Video)

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:57:27pm

A hit sheriff hollers.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:57:44pm

re: #245 The Pie Overlord!

In other words attack all of the Democrats at once. They are spreading themselves very thin.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 4:58:25pm

re: #234 jaunte

EXCLUSIVE: Barr says mail-in voting invites fraud, police shootings aren’t racist and people are flying around the country to stir up violence at protests.

Absolutely true; isn’t that the reason that Trump flew to Kenosha? Won’t he be flying elsewhere to incite violence?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:00:07pm

re: #250 PhillyPretzel

I other words attack all of the Democrats at once. They are spreading themselves very thin.

They are in panic mode, lashing out, trying to strike at any real or imagined weakness in an attempt to salvage what is increasingly looking like an impossible situation. I’m finally starting to come back around from the despair side; it’s starting to feel real.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:01:42pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:01:46pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t put it past one of the shitheads at the WH to have put this idea in his head with the goal of producing voter fraud just to have a talking point on Election Night when they push to disqualify all mail ballots.

We’ve reached the point where they are believing their own voter fraud claims and think the only way to combat it is to encourage their side to do it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:07:12pm

re: #254 Belafon

We’ve reached the point where they are believing their own voter fraud claims and think the only way to combat it is to encourage their side to do it.

The Party of Both Sides are Bad.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:07:42pm

Gotta listen this guy.

Brandon Leake Performs Heart-Wrenching Spoken Word to His Mother - America’s Got Talent 2020

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:19:28pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:20:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:24:18pm

Whelp, here’s a moran.

Theist: (At least one) god exists.
Atheist: I don’t believe you.

How does one govern “atheistically?” Secular is not equal to atheist.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:25:18pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t put it past one of the shitheads at the WH to have put this idea in his head with the goal of producing voter fraud just to have a talking point on Election Night when they push to disqualify all mail ballots.

it will be virtually impossible yes impossible to disqualify mail ballots before they are opened and reviewed let alone actually counted

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:25:47pm

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Do you believe in God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*

“Do you believe in God?”
“Yes.”
“Do you believe in my God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*
“My God’s dick is bigger than your god’s dick.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:27:39pm

Chadwick Boseman’s last Tweet: 😥

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:28:37pm
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jamesfirecat  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:30:59pm

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Do you believe in God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*

“Do you believe in God?”
“Yes.”
“Do you believe in my God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*
“My God’s dick is bigger than your god’s dick.”

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:31:05pm

Nate Silver on prediction markets. I can explain those markets in a simpler way by quoting Tom Lehrer’s famous song, “🎵 Be Prepared…Always Book to Cover Bet…Be Prepared…”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:32:58pm

re: #264 jamesfirecat

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

Or the infamous favorite, “What version of the Bible do you read?” Apparently, there have been people who have actually left our church because our pastor does not quote from the good ol’ King James Version on Sundays. Of all the trivial bullshit, I swear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:32:59pm

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

Gotta listen this guy.

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Video

Pookie and Mom
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Ferdinand  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:33:12pm

re: #265 Sherlock Hound

The fair point I’ve seen today is that the betting markets know Biden is way ahead in polling and support but once you price in all the illegal tactics underway and yet to come it’s a toss-up.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:33:22pm

re: #265 Sherlock Hound

Prediction markets are gambling.

As are all predictions to which assets are allocated.

People playing prediction markets are gambling. And using strategies to minimize losses.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:34:05pm

“I would like you to do me a favor, though…”

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:34:17pm

NY Mets legend Tom Seaver has passed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:35:07pm

re: #270 The Pie Overlord!

“I would like you to do me a favor, though…”

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Bring it, bitch. You need us more than we need you.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:35:12pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:38:01pm

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Do you believe in God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*

“Do you believe in God?”
“Yes.”
“Do you believe in my God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*
“My God’s dick is bigger than your god’s dick.”

Reminds me of the apologetic She Said Yes about a Christian child who was supposedly killed in a school shooting when her captors asked her if she believed in God. Supposedly, she said yes and she got shot.

Didn’t happen. The shooters asked another girl if she believed in God, but left her alone. The child in the story just got shot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:40:01pm

re: #274 Sherlock Hound

A story I grew up hearing. I was in middle school when Columbine happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:41:32pm

welp, glad I took a full dose of Benedryl after last night’s multiple wasp stings and then further doses overnight and this morning.

The first sting, in the underside of my upper arm, is now a 12-inch long freaking welt/hive. I’m horrified to think what it would be without the Benedryl.

I do not even want to know what’s happening with the sting(s) on my shoulder because the itching is now all the way to the middle of my back.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:42:42pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got attacked by a nest, did you? There’s one near my front door. Mrs. Fish put out a call for an exterminator.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:42:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:43:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:44:20pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

Benadryl can be a good friend but it makes most people very drowsy. That is one of the reasons why I am so fond of 20oz Cokes. And I hope you heal fast from those bug bites.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:46:34pm

re: #277 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Got attacked by a nest, did you? There’s one near my front door. Mrs. Fish put out a call for an exterminator.

there was a wee mud dauber nest next to the kitchen door. Pretty sure it was just one little bitchy wasp caught up in the sleeve of my t-shirt and she went down fighting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:47:46pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

there was a wee mud dauber nest next to the kitchen door. Pretty sure it was just one little bitchy wasp caught up in the sleeve of my t-shirt and she went down fighting.

Wasps are the assholes of the animal kingdom. I feel zero remorse when dispatching them. However, they scare the fuck out of me. Sadly, so do bees, even though I know they aren’t dicks.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:48:10pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

The mud daubers around my place are pretty mellow, even when they run right into you, but I’ve been stung by those nasty paper wasps just outside the door exactly as you described it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:48:42pm

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

Benadryl can be a good friend but it makes most people very drowsy. That is one of the reasons why I am so fond of 20oz Cokes. And I hope you heal fast from those bug bites.

Well, I rarely leave the farm these days and drowsiness seems to be my default condition anyway in any event.

:D

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:48:44pm

re: #283 jaunte

The mud daubers around my place are pretty mellow,even when they run right into you, but I’ve been stung by those nasty paper wasps just outside the door exactly as you described it.

The one time I got stung, I took a shot from a bee right inside my nose when I drove into it mowing the back 40. I’m pretty sure it was just as surprised as I was.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:48:50pm
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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:49:08pm

re: #271 makeitstop

NY Mets legend Tom Seaver has passed.

that guy threw a lot of pitches

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:49:18pm

re: #260 dangerman

it will be virtually impossible yes impossible to disqualify mail ballots before they are opened and reviewed let alone actually counted

You’re not from around here, are ya’?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:50:02pm

re: #282 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am scared of them too. Early in this epidemic I kicked out my screen door and nearly scared the daylights out of my neighbor. I pointed out the wasp which I pulled out my shop vac and and vacuumed it up. The next day I spray painted my door frame.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:51:29pm

I just can not get over the size of this welt/hive.
It’s freaking embarrassing.

Right on the old lady bat wing upper arm flap…

sigh

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:52:59pm
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:54:22pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

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Can’t wait to take the Trump Company Coronavirus vaccine! A mixture of ground up hydroxychloroquine, Clorox, zinc and plaus-ma.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:55:19pm

re: #269 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Prediction markets are gambling.

As are all predictions to which assets are allocated.

People playing prediction markets are gambling. And using strategies to minimize losses.

I put a nice wager on Biden today at +105. He has Trump at -140. There is no way in hell Trump has a 58% chance of winning.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:55:29pm

re: #265 Sherlock Hound

It’s not a prediction market if it isn’t predicting.

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William Lewis  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:59:41pm

re: #282 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:59:48pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

All of his voters rush to get vaccinated and die on the second.

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 5:59:50pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

You’re not from around here, are ya’?

I repeat
it will be hard to introduce evidence that ballots are disqualified if they have not been opened or looked at by anyone

there are all manner of judges out there.
many of them are r’s and sane

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:01:48pm

I’m 100% pro vaccine but there’s no way in hell I’d be first in line with anything trump endorses. He’s probably getting something from Russia and that’s a full stop no fucking way.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:01:52pm

re: #297 dangerman

I repeat
it will be hard to introduce evidence that ballots are disqualified if they have not been opened or looked at by anyone

there are all manner of judges out there.
many of them are r’s and sane

All you have to do in this state is make sure they are not in the office of the Absentee Election Manager by noon on election day, regardless of when postmarked.
sos.alabama.gov

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:02:45pm

[redhat] THE PRESIDENT WAS JUST KIDDING ABOUT VOTING TWICE LIBTARDS!!! SEE HOW HE TRIGGERS YOU???!!! [/redhat]

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:05:52pm

re: #298 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m 100% pro vaccine but there’s no way in hell I’d be first in line with anything trump endorses. He’s probably getting something from Russia and that’s a full stop no fucking way.

I’ll wait for Fauci to tell me what vaccine to get and when to get it, not Trump or his sycophants.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:09:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:10:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:11:22pm
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William Lewis  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:12:04pm

Took the long way driving home this afternoon and got a few decent images. Take a peek if you like the northwoods.

Driving Home

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:12:52pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:13:41pm

nbcnews.com

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:15:13pm

re: #291 jaunte

I declare shenanigans, because Texas only allows absentee ballots under certain circumstances:

You may vote by absentee ballot in Texas if:
you are 65 years or older;
you are disabled;
you will be out of the county on Election Day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
you are confined in jail, but otherwise eligible, or certified for participation in the address confidentiality program.

Requesting a mail-in ballot otherwise will result in a denial (which I assume is the point).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:15:21pm

re: #307 Belafon

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I wonder how my parents were able to apply to vote by mail, then. They live in IN (one of the orange states) and told me they were voting by mail this year.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:15:54pm

The Baseball Hall of Fame has stated that Tom Seaver died Monday from “complications of Lewy body dementia and COVID-19,”
So, according to RWNJs his death should not be included in COVID-19 statistics

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:16:38pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:17:18pm

re: #309 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I wonder how my parents were able to apply to vote by mail, then. They live in IN (one of the orange states) and told me they were voting by mail this year.

They may have a valid excuse. The map is showing whether or not you have to have one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:18:06pm
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nines09  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:18:42pm

You could walk past each one of these trucks and say ” Bitching truck man! Sorry about your dick.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:19:06pm

re: #307 Belafon

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Alabama is only pale blue because of a bitter court fight. The rule was changed, but the printed paperwork was not, leaving many vulnerable people afraid to apply for a ballot.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:19:10pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:19:12pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:19:18pm

re: #312 Belafon

They may have a valid excuse. The map is showing whether or not you have to have one.

As far as I know, they don’t, that’s what I’m saying. But I don’t know Indiana’s election laws by heart so their rules may be less stringent than Texas’s.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:19:19pm

re: #311 Dread Pirate Ron

250 years from now, whatever smoldering remnants remain of this shithole country will be the world’s only COVID-19 hot zone. Chinese epidemiologists, anthropologists, and historians will come here to study the Land that Time Forgot.

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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:21:53pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Tom Seaver was the best. I was too young to remember the 1969 Mets, but I admired his tenacity after being traded to the Reds in 1977. The biggest disappointment was when his body just wouldn’t allow him to be on the 1986 Red Sox World Series roster. I have no doubt he could have protected a 2-run lead in 10th in Game 6 if he had been able.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:22:28pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:23:03pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:25:02pm

re: #322 The Pie Overlord!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:25:42pm

re: #323 Belafon

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If a Black woman did that, they’d have shot her without hesitation.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:27:30pm

re: #324 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If a Black woman did that, they’d have shot her without hesitation.

“She had a knife and was threatening a child…”

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:30:51pm

re: #307 Belafon

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so they can use covid as an excuse if they have a condition but if they die of covid its really from the condition and not the covid

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:30:54pm
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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:32:02pm

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The Baseball Hall of Fame has stated that Tom Seaver died Monday from “complications of Lewy body dementia and COVID-19,”
So, according to RWNJs his death should not be included in COVID-19 statistics

what I just said re voting in tennessee

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:33:37pm

...

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:33:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:34:45pm

re: #330 jaunte

Pencil-necked geeks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:34:49pm

re: #329 The Pie Overlord!

They would have thought she was the nanny or the babysitter.

With a knife? Oh, hell naw. She’d be dead. Now, if she was just screaming at them with no weapons, sure, I’d agree with you.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:35:08pm

re: #331 Decatur Deb

Eggheads!

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:35:57pm

Eighty-one Nobel Prize winners vs. the Freedom Caucus and Scott Baio.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:37:05pm

re: #332 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

With a knife? Oh, hell naw. She’d be dead. Now, if she was just screaming at them with no weapons, sure, I’d agree with you.

Sorry I thought you meant if the grandmother was a Black woman, not the woman who threatened them. No way a Black woman would even do that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:37:50pm

re: #335 The Pie Overlord!

Sorry I thought you meant if the grandmother was a Black woman, not the woman who threatened them. No way a Black woman would even do that.

I agree, it was just a hypothetical but I guess I’ll abandon the attempt.

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:39:42pm

200 evictions on Monday.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:40:24pm

Botswarms are spamming Twitter with HURR HURR SOME PEOPLE IN THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTED TO BAIL MONEY FOR PROTESTERS!!!!!!! while at the same time promoting GoFundMe legal defence for Kyle Rittenhouse (is that even legal?)

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dangerman  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:41:24pm

re: #329 The Pie Overlord!

…

I totally agree

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:42:16pm

re: #338 The Pie Overlord!

Botswarms are spamming Twitter with HURR HURR SOME PEOPLE IN THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTED TO BAIL MONEY FOR PROTESTERS!!!!!!! while at the same time promoting GoFundMe legal defence for Kyle Rittenhouse (is that even legal?)

Last time I looked at Free Rep, the grift was managed by a bootleg Christian fund site for his criminal lawyers. GFM wasn’t playing.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:42:46pm

re: #316 jaunte

Yes. There is an HEB every two miles in my county (Montgomery).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:43:28pm
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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:43:58pm

re: #341 Ace Rothstein

I hope the court is smart enough to listen.

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Jack Burton  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:44:04pm

re: #307 Belafon

I might be wrong, but this tells me that no state in play that really matters or is close except maybe Texas if you believe what some polls are saying, has a COVID-19 problem for voting.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:48:10pm

re: #343 jaunte

I don’t know if any business in Texas other than Whataburger has that much clout, but HEB may come close.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:49:48pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp, glad I took a full dose of Benedryl after last night’s multiple wasp stings and then further doses overnight and this morning.

The first sting, in the underside of my upper arm, is now a 12-inch long freaking welt/hive. I’m horrified to think what it would be without the Benedryl.

I do not even want to know what’s happening with the sting(s) on my shoulder because the itching is now all the way to the middle of my back.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Very hot, very salty water applied as a poultice is very good for allergic reaction itching. Leave it on for several minutes. YMMV.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:50:40pm

re: #345 Ace Rothstein

I don’t know if any business other than Whataburger has that much clout, but HEB may come close.

Wait until Blue Bell, Rotel and Shiner Bock chime in!

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:52:45pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:54:12pm

re: #298 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m 100% pro vaccine but there’s no way in hell I’d be first in line with anything trump endorses. He’s probably getting something from Russia and that’s a full stop no fucking way.

DT’s endorsement is irrelevant. I would look at who else endorses it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:54:41pm

re: #334 jaunte

Eighty-one Nobel Prize winners vs. the Freedom Caucus and Scott Baio.

And Clint Eastwood’s empty chair.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:56:04pm

re: #348 gocart mozart

He keeps trying that, and courts keep slapping that crap down.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:57:49pm

re: #349 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

DT’s endorsement is irrelevant. I would look at who else endorses it.

Everything thump touches dies.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:59:30pm

Wife is still stuck in Denver on our 53rd anniversary. She’s safer there, with our differing CV19 rates, and she’s useful easing Grandson1 into hybrid classwork. I celebrated with the special seafood bag from Cap’n D’s drive-through.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 6:59:54pm

re: #347 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

As a native Texan, I must correct you. Shiner “Bock” is a type of Shiner beer. Shiner is the name of the brewery, based in Shiner, TX., population 2200.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:01:36pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:03:05pm

re: #319 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

250 years from now, whatever smoldering remnants remain of this shithole country will be the world’s only COVID-19 hot zone. Chinese epidemiologists, anthropologists, and historians will come here to study the Land that Time Forgot.

In January, President Biden will institute strict guidelines for dealing with covid-19. That, along with new treatments and vaccines, will allow us to get the disease under control. (My ideas about what to do with non-compliers would probably get me banned. I used to be a nicer person.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:03:12pm

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Wife is still stuck in Denver on our 53rd anniversary. She’s safer there, with our differing CV19 rates, and she’s useful easing Grandson1 into hybrid classwork. I celebrated with the special seafood bag from Cap’n D’s drive-through.

Having trouble figuring out what to do for our 12th, as we are stressed out with my parents’ upcoming visit and with school starting next week. I have a feeling we won’t be getting that getaway Mrs. Fish wanted.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:04:03pm

re: #354 Ace Rothstein

As a native Texan, I must correct you. Shiner “Bock” is a type of Shiner beer. Shiner is the name of the brewery, based in Shiner, TX., population 2200.

Noted but as a native Texan you must agree that no one cares about the opinion of Shiner Blonde or Shiner Prickly Pear. Shiner Bock, on the other hand, people may pay attention to.

:)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:05:01pm

re: #357 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Having trouble figuring out what to do for our 12th, as we are stressed out with my parents’ upcoming visit and with school starting next week. I have a feeling we won’t be getting that getaway Mrs. Fish wanted.

Let me recommend the 4-piece Family Meal, with hush puppies.

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b_sharp  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:05:33pm

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Wife is still stuck in Denver on our 53rd anniversary. She’s safer there, with our differing CV19 rates, and she’s useful easing Grandson1 into hybrid classwork. I celebrated with the special seafood bag from Cap’n D’s drive-through.

53rd? Wow. Congratulations.

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:05:34pm

re: #346 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Very hot, very salty water applied as a poultice is very good for allergic reaction itching. Leave it on for several minutes. YMMV.

Gold Bond anti-itch cream. Just used it on chiggers.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:05:40pm

re: #355 The Pie Overlord!

Are California salons all supposed to be closed? We can get haircuts here in Texas, but we have to wear masks, and they won’t do anything but haircuts.

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gwangung  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:06:14pm

re: #362 Belafon

Are California salons all supposed to be closed? We can get haircuts here in Texas, but we have to wear masks, and they won’t do anything but haircuts.

Think they just reopened….

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:06:29pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Let me recommend the 4-piece Family Meal, with hush puppies.

Silk and linen are the official 12th anniversary gift materials, so bring napkins.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:06:59pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Let me recommend the 4-piece Family Meal, with hush puppies.

Acknowledged. And my most sincere congratulations. I just want to survive this year, let alone 41 more.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:13:07pm

re: #362 Belafon

Are California salons all supposed to be closed? We can get haircuts here in Texas, but we have to wear masks, and they won’t do anything but haircuts.

As we speak, the rules are changing. I’m not clear on the details (four tiers with different rules for each tier and a certain amount of leeway for individual counties) but salons are allowed to open in some places, and San Francisco is one of them.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:27:48pm

It’s a totally fucked-up year when I have to start liking a ‘Bama coach.

Nick Saban on historic march: ‘We’re not letting this die’
al.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:28:29pm

re: #352 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Everything thump touches dies.

Trump has touched the United States. QED

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:30:17pm

re: #368 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump has touched the United States. QED

We’re not dead yet. Yes, our arm’s off, but ‘tis but a scratch.

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gwangung  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:30:18pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

It’s a totally fucked-up year when I have to start liking a ‘Bama coach.

Nick Saban on historic march: ‘We’re not letting this die’
al.com

I…was not expecting this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:31:32pm

re: #362 Belafon

Are California salons all supposed to be closed? We can get haircuts here in Texas, but we have to wear masks, and they won’t do anything but haircuts.

Hair salons are open in Illinois. Everyone wears masks. And I think they have a full range of services.

Remember all: Several months ago, there was that Missouri salon with 2 stylists who had Covid and none of their clients were infected because everyone wore masks.

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makeitstop  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:33:20pm

re: #338 The Pie Overlord!

Botswarms are spamming Twitter with HURR HURR SOME PEOPLE IN THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTED TO BAIL MONEY FOR PROTESTERS!!!!!!! while at the same time promoting GoFundMe legal defence for Kyle Rittenhouse (is that even legal?)

Are you sure it’s GoFundMe? I know they’ve refused fundraisers for people who were accused of a crime in the past.

I thought the fundraiser for Rittenhouse was some private outfit?

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William Lewis  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:35:50pm

re: #370 gwangung

I…was not expecting this.

Stopped clock, etc. But still…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:37:41pm

re: #373 William Lewis

Stopped clock, etc. But still…

A world where the head coach of ‘Bama is woke and the President of the United States is not is the darkest timeline indeed.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:38:38pm

re: #371 Hecuba’s daughter

Hair salons are open in Illinois. Everyone wears masks. And I think they have a full range of services.

Remember all: Several months ago, there was that Missouri salon with 2 stylists who had Covid and none of their clients were infected because everyone wore masks.

Our governor noted that the first evidence of community spread in CA was a nail salon, and I think it’s left him with an unnecessary concern about salons in general. But (I hope) this will end soon. I wouldn’t kill for a pedicure — but almost.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:39:36pm

re: #341 Ace Rothstein

Yes. There is an HEB every two miles in my county (Montgomery).

I’m in Fort Bend. Ditto.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:41:01pm

re: #372 makeitstop

Are you sure it’s GoFundMe? I know they’ve refused fundraisers for people who were accused of a crime in the past.

I thought the fundraiser for Rittenhouse was some private outfit?

There was a gofundme but it was shut down and some “Christian” org took over.

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Jack Burton  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:41:22pm

re: #362 Belafon

Are California salons all supposed to be closed? We can get haircuts here in Texas, but we have to wear masks, and they won’t do anything but haircuts.

What has been happening here, is as soon as the case count goes down for like 5 minutes, the state and idiot county governments say “well it’s over” and starts opening things up.

2 weeks later, we are back and square one. We have done this dumb shit twice now and are working on round 3 as we speak.

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plansbandc  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:41:24pm

re: #271 makeitstop

One of the true greats I was fortunate enough to watch play. RIP

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:43:22pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:44:54pm

This is what we’re up against. Most Covid victims aren’t “real”. OK.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:47:15pm

re: #381 Sherlock Hound

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This is what we’re up against. Most Covid victims aren’t “real”. OK.

I swear, if my parents try to go out this weekend without masks and cite this “evidence” as their proof, I will stuff my own mask down their throats.

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:49:08pm

re: #381 Sherlock Hound

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This is what we’re up against. Most Covid victims aren’t “real”. OK.

We’re all going to die because such a massive swath of America fell for the bullshit, and another massive swath fully embraced it knowing it was still bullshit just because it “triggers the libz”.

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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:50:01pm

It’s all going to come down to NC, PA, WI, and AZ. That is assuming DeSantis fucks up Florida enough to where it wins. Play around with 270towin and create your own scenarios. Of course, if it loses Florida, the jig is up.

Hell, it could wind up being the result of Maine 2nd District or Nebraska 2nd District.

If Biden were to be at 270-268, how much money do you think would be spent to find a “faithless” elector? But then the Supreme Court ruled against that, right?

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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:52:30pm

re: #380 gocart mozart

It will always be Burgess Meredith after the bomb dropped, when he had all the books in the world and broke his glasses.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:55:07pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:56:46pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 2, 2020 • 7:56:57pm

I just wanted to say hello and tell you that I don’t give an F where nancy gets her hair done.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:00:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:00:36pm

re: #388 I Would Prefer Not To

You can say “fuck” here. I fucking do it quite often.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:01:15pm

re: #380 gocart mozart

The time travel episode where the guy goes into the past to change certain moments in history, but he keeps fucking up. Then he time travels back to live in a quiet town in the 1890’s but he fucks that up too and has to return the present.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:02:00pm

re: #390 Ace Rothstein

You can say “fuck” here. I fucking do it quite often.

I’m saving my fs for election night*

* or at the very least the first debate.

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mmmirele  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:09:39pm

re: #323 Belafon

It’s this shit that had me terrified about my elderly father (now RIP) out and driving around in Joe Arpaio’s Maricopa County. He was several shades darker than the average pasty white retiree.

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:12:35pm

Again, it’s not even that they learned nothing. They just continue to learn the exact wrong lessons from everything.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:12:42pm

re: #375 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Our governor noted that the first evidence of community spread in CA was a nail salon, and I think it’s left him with an unnecessary concern about salons in general. But (I hope) this will end soon. I wouldn’t kill for a pedicure — but almost.

I had a pedicure twice and will never try it again — hated it both times. Found it a very unpleasant experience. OTOH, my sister loved it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:14:15pm

re: #381 Sherlock Hound

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This is what we’re up against. Most Covid victims aren’t “real”. OK.

We are at war with stupid people.

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KingKenrod  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:16:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:16:53pm

re: #389 Dread Pirate Ron

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They really do think they might end up in the dock.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:21:12pm

Derek Lowe posts about vaccine cold-storage logistics. I don’t trust the CDC nor the administration any further than I can punch them, but it would appear that vaccine distribution logistics are doable, if expensive—we just need commitment.

Cold Chain (and Colder Chain) Distribution

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:21:47pm

re: #371 Hecuba’s daughter

Hair salons are open in Illinois. Everyone wears masks. And I think they have a full range of services.

Remember all: Several months ago, there was that Missouri salon with 2 stylists who had Covid and none of their clients were infected because everyone wore masks.

Thanks. I was trying to figure out the “gotcha” angle against Pelosi other than it’s Pelosi.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:23:46pm

Somehow I wound up on a Trump donor email list. I decided to keep it as part of my opposition research and information effort. This is what “he” (ie, some lackey) said tonight.

$364 MILLION-That’s how much the Radical Left raised in August

BREAKING: JOE AND KAMALA RAISED $364 MILLION IN AUGUST

I need your help right now Jimmy.

LIBERAL MEGA DONORS MAXED OUT contributions to Sleepy Joe and Phony Kamala Harris last month. They brought in $364 MILLION in August alone.

I’ll never be intimidated by these Radical Socialists and their dirty MEGA DONOR MONEY, but I can’t ignore that $364,000,000 in ONE MONTH is a massive amount of cash.

The Liberals are funneling money to their candidates at an alarming rate to try and take us down. They think they can intimidate us with their MAXED-OUT contributions in the hope that they can buy their way into the White House. They couldn’t be more wrong.

They may have Silicon Valley and HOLLYWOOD ELITES, but I’ve got something better. I have YOU.

It’s the MOB, THE MEDIA, THE HOLLYWOOD ELITES, THE DEEP STATE and THE SWAMP vs. YOU. Let’s remind them that AMERICA IS NOT FOR SALE. This is YOUR COUNTRY NOT THEIRS.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:24:05pm

re: #381 Sherlock Hound

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jaunte  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:25:20pm

Massively corrupt and incredibly petty all at the same time.

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:25:50pm

A friend farms outside of Ames IA, where covid is hot. She said they appear to have cancelled spectators at their football game (a day or so ago they were going to allow 25,000 spectators in). My friend’s grandson is in his first year there, and everyone in his apartment (dunno how many) has covid except him. All were sick but not very. She took up a food care package, called him to come out, and left it on the sidewalk for him to pick up.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:26:43pm

re: #397 KingKenrod

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I want to see Jim Carey’s version of that.

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gwangung  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:27:00pm

re: #402 Belafon

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These are ignorant yo-yos who don’t understand the terminology the experts are using.

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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:30:36pm

Forget about everything else, there have two great NBA games tonight. OKC and Houston going down to the wire, while Miami beat Milwaukee with no time left.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:32:59pm

re: #403 jaunte

Massively corrupt and incredibly petty all at the same time.

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We should start calling him AG Boar, maybe Boss Boar.

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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:34:16pm

re: #253 jaunte

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And let us not forget this asshole’s reaction to Springsteen’s song about that shooting. (And guess where asshole Lynch was last week? Speaking at the RNC)

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garzooma  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:34:38pm

re: #402 Belafon

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Nope. They all died from Covid. Some had other conditions, but they still died from the disease. If they wouldn’t have died at that moment had they not had the disease, then they died from it.

It’s actually dumber than this. While many of the victims had pre-existing conditions, the CDC data included conditions that occurred due to the Covid. You can see in the CDC document in Table 3. Conditions contributing to deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), by age group, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 8/22/2020.*, conditions such as “Respiratory failure” and “Cardiac arrest”. No one has a pre-existing “Cardiac arrest” condition. Duh.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:34:55pm

re: #383 Citizen K

We’re all going to die because such a massive swath of America fell for the bullshit, and another massive swath fully embraced it knowing it was still bullshit just because it “triggers the libz”.

According to a poll at the end of July, 82% of Americans would support a national mask wearing mandate. And support increased all spring and into the summer.The anti’s aren’t numerous, just loud.

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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:35:05pm

I remember covering Chris Paul at my newspaper when he was in high school. Even then, you knew he was a leader, just as he has been during these trying times as the president of the Players Association.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:37:25pm

The Kitty Genovese case was a sensation at the time (1960), and has entered folklore as an example of indifference in modern life.

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jamesfirecat  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:39:04pm

...

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:40:53pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Also around 90% of the people who could tell you what it was off the top of their head probably only know because they’ve ever read Watchmen.

Except for those of us who remember.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:42:13pm

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

I had a pedicure twice and will never try it again — hated it both times. Found it a very unpleasant experience. OTOH, my sister loved it.

To each her own. I’ll never have another full-body massage.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:42:29pm

re: #387 Ace-o-aces

I think I understand what Loomer’s game here is, beyond the obvious raw grift.

She’s not going to come within 20 points of actually winning that blue district.

But as she goes down in flames there, she’s going to bring out every inbred mouth-breather Florida Man in and around that district to vote Trump at the top of the ticket, even the ones whose enthusiasm might otherwise be waning.

Hopefully it won’t be enough to tip the state’s EVs, but it’s not like that part of Florida hasn’t been ripe for ratfuckery before.

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:43:49pm

re: #375 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Our governor noted that the first evidence of community spread in CA was a nail salon, and I think it’s left him with an unnecessary concern about salons in general. But (I hope) this will end soon. I wouldn’t kill for a pedicure — but almost.

I made a barber’s appointment about a month ago but then got nervous and cancelled it. I’m just about to the point where I could start sporting a spazzy pony tail and I think I want to give it a try. I ordered a pack of little girl’s beaded hair ties (in macho colors) because there’s so little hair to tie. I might go without a haircut until I’ve gotten all my doses of covid vaccine. I can’t do the same with my beard because of mask wearing.

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gocart mozart  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:45:03pm
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TarHellion  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:45:14pm

The Genovese case was still taught during my Psych 101 class. It wasn’t until too many years later that things were corrected.

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mmmirele  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:45:17pm

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

I had a pedicure twice and will never try it again — hated it both times. Found it a very unpleasant experience. OTOH, my sister loved it.

Pedicures at a podiatrist are paid for by Medicare. I suppose it’s because the feet of the elderly can get gnarly. My mother’s podiatrist has worked wonders by getting one nail (big toe) that was practically curled up in a tube mostly straightened out. My mother thought that was the end of the podiatrist appointments but my brother is all “aw hell naw.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:47:57pm

Ire: #404 retired cynic

A friend farms outside of Ames IA, where covid is hot. She said they appear to have cancelled spectators at their football game (a day or so ago they were going to allow 25,000 spectators in). My friend’s grandson is in his first year there, and everyone in his apartment (dunno how many) has covid except him. All were sick but not very. She took up a food care package, called him to come out, and left it on the sidewalk for him to pick up.

Do remind him if you haven’t already that he could be asymptomatic — in fact, it’s likely, given his surroundings.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:49:23pm
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:50:15pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:51:12pm

re: #415 retired cynic

Except for those of us who remember.

Phil Ochs song. Discussed in my high school English class.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:52:00pm

re: #423 Belafon

That would be a hoot. “Nationwide roundup! 1.2 million Republicans, 43 others, arrested for vote fraud!”

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:52:53pm

re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I swear, if my parents try to go out this weekend without masks and cite this “evidence” as their proof, I will stuff my own mask down their throats.

How bad can it get (not said in jest)? If they refuse to follow the rules would you not allow them back into your house?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:54:21pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Also around 90% of the people who could tell you what it was off the top of their head probably only know because they’ve ever read Watchmen.

I’ve never read Watchmen.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:55:01pm

re: #418 stpaulbear

I made a barber’s appointment about a month ago but then got nervous and cancelled it. I’m just about to the point where I could start sporting a spazzy pony tail and I think I want to give it a try. I ordered a pack of little girl’s beaded hair ties (in macho colors) because there’s so little hair to tie. I might go without a haircut until I’ve gotten all my doses of covid vaccine. I can’t do the same with my beard because of mask wearing.

I don’t think I’d want to get a haircut (I already have the tail, so haven’t had my hair professionally cut in about 50 years), or a manicure. A pedicure doesn’t involve getting that close. Also, I spent my teen years barefoot, so my calluses have calluses. It’s difficult to get them trimmed down myself.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 8:59:51pm

re: #421 mmmirele

Pedicures at a podiatrist are paid for by Medicare. I suppose it’s because the feet of the elderly can get gnarly. My mother’s podiatrist has worked wonders by getting one nail (big toe) that was practically curled up in a tube mostly straightened out. My mother thought that was the end of the podiatrist appointments but my brother is all “aw hell naw.”

I like the ladies I’ve been going to for all these years, and I somehow doubt that a podiatrist would do nail polish. (I also worry about the ladies who’ve been doing my nails — it’s been almost six months.) I’ll accept some slight risk to give them the income, just as I’ve been picking up takeout almost every day since the stay-at-home started, to help the restaurants around here.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 2, 2020 • 9:01:16pm

re: #426 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

That would be a hoot. “Nationwide roundup! 1.2 million Republicans, 43 others, arrested for vote fraud!”

We’ll have to put them all in the FEMA camps.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2020 • 9:10:12pm

re: #431 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

We’ll have to put them all in the FEMA camps.

I would be mostly indifferent to how they were treated, but I would insist that their antivaxx beliefs and high-fat dietary preferences be respected.

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Jack Burton  Sep 3, 2020 • 2:57:25am

re: #356 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

In January, President Biden will institute strict guidelines for dealing with covid-19. That, along with new treatments and vaccines, will allow us to get the disease under control. (My ideas about what to do with non-compliers would probably get me banned. I used to be a nicer person.)

It’s really easy to deal with them. Fines, citations, etc. that grow exponentially per violation. First time someone gets a 10 grand fine for being a Karen in a grocery store will be the last. Hitting people were it really hurts, their bank account, takes care of most problems.


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