Washington Post Editorial Board Calls for Trump’s Top COVID Adviser to Be Fired

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Donald Trump’s closest adviser on the COVID-19 pandemic is a right wing ideologue who’s been pushing the bogus idea of herd immunity, also known as “just let ‘em all die.”

Yesterday he posted a comment on Twitter that sounded to many people (including yours truly) like a call for anti-lockdown violence in Michigan, where Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has already been the target of a right wing kidnap/murder plot.

Today the Washington Post editorial board calls for him to be fired immediately: Scott Atlas’s Michigan lockdown comments will sicken people. Fire him.

SCOTT ATLAS is a neuroradiologist, not an infectious disease expert, nor an epidemiologist. As President Trump’s leading adviser on the coronavirus pandemic, he continues to make statements that will cause more illness and death. He ought to be fired immediately.

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Dr. Atlas has frequently belittled lockdowns and pandemic restrictions, saying they have deleterious knock-on effects and are unnecessary, and that only the “vulnerable” need protection. Of the Michigan restrictions, he wrote on Twitter: “The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept. #​FreedomMatters #​StepUp.” So, while the governor was desperately trying to save lives by slowing the virus transmission, Dr. Atlas was urging people to disobey and revolt. This is incendiary talk, especially since the governor was the target of a kidnapping plot foiled by the FBI before the election. Dr. Atlas later insisted he would never encourage violence and was talking about voting and peaceful protest.

He was talking about “voting?” After the election was over? Yes, this guy definitely should be fired. And then Donald Trump should resign because he’s the real problem.

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155 comments

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:42:11pm

Evict the Liar!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:42:48pm

It’s not enough to fire Atlas.

He must have his medical license revoked.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:43:10pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:45:07pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

You wanna tell me Tim Curry is less of a man than Ben Shapiro?

I don’t think so.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:45:38pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:47:40pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

Bob Stinson used to wear dresses or skirts sometimes for Replacements gigs.

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gocart mozart  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:50:30pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:52:44pm
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:55:23pm

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

Nothing more masculine than being afraid of colors and fabric.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:56:35pm

re: #6 stpaulbear

Bob Stinson used to wear dresses or skirts sometimes for Replacements gigs.

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I saw him dressed like this at the most disappointing show I’ve ever seen.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 4:58:09pm

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

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He really has an unhealthy obsession with others choices of what they do with their bodies. I wouldn’t feel comfortable in women’s clothes but hey if that’s your thing, who the hell am I to judge, I have my own quirks.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:01:35pm

re: #11 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He really has an unhealthy obsession with others choices of what they do with their bodies. I wouldn’t feel comfortable in women’s clothes but hey if that’s your thing, who the hell am I to judge, I have my own weird quirks.

Happy It’s amazing to see Benjyboy failing as a lawyer and he wound up being a cheap prostitute for the right wing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:05:25pm

re: #220 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cat 5 Iota is scarily impressive on satellite IR:

Image: G16-sector-cam-band13-48fr-20201116-1906.gif

SUMMARY OF 700 PM EST…0000 UTC…INFORMATION
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LOCATION…13.6N 83.0W
ABOUT 35 MI…55 KM ESE OF PUERTO CABEZAS NICARAGUA
ABOUT 95 MI…155 KM SSE OF CABO GRACIAS A DIOS ON NIC/HON BORDER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…160 MPH…260 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…W OR 275 DEGREES AT 9 MPH…15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…918 MB…27.11 INCHES

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:05:59pm

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

He claims to be a religious Jew but the hills that he decides to fight on (abortion, transgenderism) are really not critical issues in Judaism. They are important to evangelicals. Does he even really care about this or is it just a performance for his wingnut grift?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:07:37pm

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:07:54pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:07:58pm

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

Happy It’s amazing to see Benjyboy failing as a lawyer and he wound up being a cheap prostitute for the right wing.

He is who he is Joe, a product of the Bannon ecosystem. Hopefully people remember that the more that nut implodes.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:08:05pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:08:12pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Iota is likely to do the most damage of any hurricane this year. Eta has already saturated the ground, so Iota will cause a lot of flooding, etc.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:09:05pm

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

He claims to be a religious Jew but the hills that he decides to fight on (abortion, transgenderism) are really not critical issues in Judaism. They are important to evangelicals. Does he even really care about this or is it just a performance for his wingnut grift?

Benjy will do anything for that Wingnut Welfare money!

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:10:22pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

She’s too dumb to google “no-equipment workout.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:10:55pm

re: #21 jaunte

She’s too dumb to google “no-equipment workout.”

No, she’s an Attention Queen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:11:05pm

re: #5 The Pie Overlord!

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:11:38pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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If she hates it so much, maybe she should resign and leave. She won’t be missed.

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Jack Burton  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:11:50pm

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

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Spanky Shapiro… right. I’m going to be lectured about masculinity from a guy who thinks women being sexually excited is a sign of yeast infection? GTFO of here with your bullshit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:12:39pm

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

He claims to be a religious Jew but the hills that he decides to fight on (abortion, transgenderism) are really not critical issues in Judaism. They are important to evangelicals. Does he even really care about this or is it just a performance for his wingnut grift?

The funny thing is he’s from a entertainment background. His cousin played Matilda and Robin Williams’ daughter in Mrs. Doubtfire. I think his dad was a film exec. But he loves crapping on Hollywood liberalism. I have no idea what his deal is but you’re right, he really seems to take issues and stances on positions that resonate most with American Evangelicals.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:15:34pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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We really need to make her the face of the Republicans in Congress. They had a chance to distance themselves from her but now McCarthy has embraced this nut.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:21:37pm

The notion that a single Klan member is a racist, but a thousand are worth listening to is paint-by-numbers morality. It must end.

Trump Fans Say Trump Most Popular Loser Ever To Lose Presidency By Losing (Wonkette)

Dragging the Los Angeles Times:

What’s scary, though, is that the media and political moderates still insist on elevating the voices of Trump supporters, even in defeat. There are almost six million more Biden voters — a decisive margin fueled by Black women and Native Americans specifically — but we have to endure more profiles in bigotry.

Saturday, the Los Angeles Times, which is based in the California city of Los Angeles, devoted its entire letters page to Trump supporters. Biden won more than 70 percent of the vote in Los Angeles County, so it’s possible the letters page featured every Trump voter in the area. This is quite the Affirmative Action program for conservatives who normally rail against quotas.

Trump carried my home town of Greenville, South Carolina, with just 58 percent of the vote. That’s less than both Romney and McCain. When I was growing up, the Greenville News never set aside an entire letters page for Mondale and Dukakis voters. No one cared what my Democratic-voting relatives thought. South Carolina, the buckle of the Bible Belt, was defined by its conservative majority. Democrats have won the popular vote in seven out of the last eight presidential elections. America isn’t a center-right nation, no matter how much that frustrates Republicans. They can gerrymander congressional majorities and benefit from a rural state Senate bias, but that doesn’t change the nation’s actual ideological makeup.

If anyone lives in a bubble, it’s probably conservatives, who were stunned Georgia flipped blue. The New York Times recently profiled Republicans in Atlanta, which went full General Sherman on Trump, and they believed there was no way Biden could win. They were obviously wrong, so where are the followup pieces on all the suburbanites who rejected Trump?

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Jay C  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:22:00pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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Well, I guess since Marjorie couldn’t go to the gym, she found the bar and ordered a big bottle of WHINE…..

“Weekly Antifa/BLM violence”?
SRSLY?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:22:18pm

re: #26 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The funny thing is he’s from a entertainment background. His cousin played Matilda and Robin Williams’ daughter in Mrs. Doubtfire. I think his dad was a film exec. But he loves crapping on Hollywood liberalism. I have no idea what his deal is but you’re right, he really seems to take issues and stances on positions that resonate most with American Evangelicals.

If you dig a little, you find out that Ben is another guy in the right-wing infotainment circuit who failed to make it in conventional media. He tried to be a screenwriter and it never took off. He may have some “principles” that inform his opinions, but he is also putting on a show and meeting the demands of his audience…who demand to be told how smart and moral they are at all times, and how immoral, stupid, and deserving of cruelty the people they are uncomfortable with are.

It’s an incredibly lucrative gig that’s got a low bar for entry, and authentic creativity is actually threatening to the audience base, so it’s the perfect refuge for hacks.

Ben is a slightly better hack than the other hacks.

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Jack Burton  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:22:40pm

re: #26 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The funny thing is he’s from a entertainment background. His cousin played Matilda and Robin Williams’ daughter in Mrs. Doubtfire. I think his dad was a film exec. But he loves crapping on Hollywood liberalism. I have no idea what his deal is but you’re right, he really seems to take issues and stances on positions that resonate most with American Evangelicals.

On Mara Wilson’s IMDB trivia section:

First cousin of Ben Shapiro. The two haven’t been on speaking terms since 2003. When asked about him she stated, “Growing up is great because you get to choose which relatives you want to spend time with and which ones to cut out of your life without any regret”.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:23:52pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:23:59pm

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

If you dig a little, you find out that Ben is another guy in the right-wing infotainment circuit who failed to make it in conventional media. He tried to be a screenwriter and it never took off. He may have some “principles” that inform his opinions, but he is also putting on a show and meeting the demands of his audience…who demand to be told how smart and moral they are at all times, and how immoral, stupid, and deserving of cruelty the people they are uncomfortable with are.

It’s an incredibly lucrative gig that’s got a low bar for entry, and authentic creativity is actually threatening to the audience base, so it’s the perfect refuge for hacks.

Ben is a slightly better hack than the other hacks.

Yeah that’s right. He’s a failed screenwriter and after hearing Robert Evans read some of True Allegiance, I can see why. His writing and characters are even lamer than his political observations.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:24:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:24:28pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:24:41pm

re: #31 Jack Burton

On Mara Wilson’s IMDB trivia section:

First cousin of Ben Shapiro. The two haven’t been on speaking terms since 2003. When asked about him she stated, “Growing up is great because you get to choose which relatives you want to spend time with and which ones to cut out of your life without any regret”.

Ouch.

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:26:11pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

Frank always wins.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:27:02pm

re: #32 jaunte

I understand why DT was hated by most of his teachers. In addition to bad spelling he cannot follow instructions.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:27:20pm

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

Also notable—and easy to watch the process of, because it was very recent—is that Ben’s parents did an enormous ad buy/astroturf campaign to raise the media profile of Abby Shapiro, who’s now doing a similar social media grift but with an emphasis on tradwife-type stuff like modesty and femininity.

Which, to my point about “this is a show”…it doesn’t matter whether these people believe any of it, the way they assemble and present information is being fitted to a pre-existing right-wing entertainment mould in a very deliberate way.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:27:25pm

re: #29 Jay C

Well, I guess since Marjorie couldn’t go to gym, she found the bar and ordered a big bottle of WHINE…..

“Weekly Antifa/BLM violence”?
SRSLY?

Her constituents will believe anything bad said about DC. They’re morons, too.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:28:26pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

The first time I glanced at that image of him and the map I thought he was throwing away an umbrella.

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TedStriker  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:28:32pm

re: #31 Jack Burton

On Mara Wilson’s IMDB trivia section:

First cousin of Ben Shapiro. The two haven’t been on speaking terms since 2003. When asked about him she stated, “Growing up is great because you get to choose which relatives you want to spend time with and which ones to cut out of your life without any regret”.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:31:26pm
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:31:29pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:33:23pm

re: #33 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah that’s right. He’s a failed screenwriter and after hearing Robert Evans read some of True Allegiance, I can see why. His writing and characters are even lamer than his political observations.

I’m not caught up on that series of excerpt-reads from Shapiro’s book, but the bits I did catch are…cringey bad.

And yet there is very clearly an audience for that kind of writing, where all the bits are familiar, comforting, and repeat back the reader’s deeply ugly assumptions about the world and their wildly inaccurate understanding of themselves as heroes who get to hurt everyone and enjoy it.

…because it’s porn. That’s what I’m always saying and saying with conviction: most of these people are not thinking at a level deeper than personal gratification in the moment, and all of the smugness and contempt and revanchism is exciting and stimulating in ways that are identical to a Penthouse letter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:34:16pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Yet at least thirty newspapers called on Bill Clinton to resign, and the New York Times reported on that in 1998:

TESTING OF A PRESIDENT: THE EDITORIALS; At Least 30 Papers Call for Resignation (Felicity Barringer, September 14, 1998)

Most papers called for Richard Nixon to resign.

Editorials go against President Nixon (UPI, August 7, 1974)

Trump however gets a pass. Must be money in propping him up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:34:19pm
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:34:48pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:36:34pm

There was a comment downstairs that said that Fox was propagating the Dominion story, and not Newsmax. Is it the “legitimate” Fox “news” people reporting on this, or their opinion shows which are “entertainment” and have no need to verify anything they say to the public?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:37:36pm

re: #48 jaunte

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So, let’s make sure it’s the last Thanksgiving for a whole shitload MORE people!!!!

Jesus.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:38:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:40:21pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

What does this make it? 0-12? Great batting record DT. Heck the Phillies might be interested in you.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:41:42pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

What does this make it? 0-12? Great batting record DT. Heck the Phillies might be interested in you.

1-15, I think.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:42:07pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

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We are deep, deep into “Turn those machines back on!” territory.

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Jay C  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:43:01pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

What does this make it? 0-12? Great batting record DT. Heck the Phillies might be interested in you.

More than that, certainly. Except for one near-irrelevant order from Justice Alito, the Trump campaign and GOP have lost action after action relating to the election: so more like 1 for 22 (?)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:43:52pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From that UPI article, it turns out the New York Times defended President Nixon as well:

But the New York Times came out Wednesday in support of the President’s present position that he not resign.

The Times said it saw “considerable merit in the President’s attitude…that he intends to ‘allow the Constitution to be the overriding factor.’”

“To accept this statement as a guilty plea and suggest that resignation would now close the book on Watergate would leave too many loose ends, too many questions unresolved,” the Times said.

“It would do nothing to inhibit subsequent fostering of the myth of a President hounded out of office by his political enemies. Doubts could be created whether the President would actually have been convicted in an impeachment trial, whether his departure from office was really justified by the facts.”

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William Lewis  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:43:59pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

I saw him dressed like this at the most disappointing show I’ve ever seen.

They were like that. Either the Best or the Worst, rarely were they meh. I remember seeing Paul pull one of the Best shows after he’d sobered up and I couldn’t help but wonder how things would have been if he hadn’t been so terrified of success?

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:45:24pm

re: #55 Jay C

I was being generous. You are probably correct.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:45:27pm

Trump has always been able to get out of pretty much anything with lawsuits that delay things, but here his problem is that the presumption is that the counts and certifications will proceed unless there’s overwhelming reason to stop them, and he doesn’t have that. He must have thought he could stay President indefinitely just by continually filing new appeals, the way he’s kept his tax records from being released.

And of course, any argument he had to keep THAT going dies at noon on 20Jan21.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:45:39pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

What does this make it? 0-12? Great batting record DT. Heck the Phillies might be interested in you.

1-25 now, I believe. The PA is the 1. The one in NV that trump is tauting is not for the presidential race.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:46:27pm

re: #55 Jay C

More than that, certainly. Except for one near-irrelevant order from Justice Alito, the Trump campaign and GOP have lost action after action relating to the election: so more like 1 for 22 (?)

I think it’s up to 1 to 24.

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:47:20pm

re: #30 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s an incredibly lucrative gig that’s got a low bar for entry, and authentic creativity is actually threatening to the audience base, so it’s the perfect refuge for hacks.

See also: Brooks, David.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:47:27pm

re: #60 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That is where he watered down the original request so that a few ballots could be disqualified. And that will have no effect on the fact that Joe won the election.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:49:03pm
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dangerman  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:49:50pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:51:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:54:56pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:58:29pm

re: #65 dangerman

In the words of former president G. W. Bush…

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 5:59:51pm

And listen to how clearly you can hear Sherrod Brown speaking in his mask.

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aatharuv  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:01:15pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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Her claim of closed gym’s in DC has been _DEBUNKED_. She’s merely bearing false witness against her soon to be neighbors. Oh, she can get barbells for something pretty affordable for someone soon to be earning a $170K salary if she wanted to. Certainly much more easily than most of her constitutents…

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:03:02pm

re: #62 stpaulbear

See also: Brooks, David.

Friedman, Thomas

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:03:47pm

A new Soen tune dropped a few weeks ago and damn. Hits hard.

SOEN - Antagonist (Official Lyric Video)

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:04:49pm

QAnon has resulted in another murder.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:05:14pm

...

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:07:20pm

re: #68 stpaulbear

In the words of former president G. W. Bush…

I think the exact quote was ‘Well, that was some weird shit.’

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:08:32pm

re: #68 stpaulbear

In the words of former president G. W. Bush…

Oops, I wasn’t quite right about that being a Bush quote.

“I thought: Wait a minute. It’s [Trump’s inauguration speech] not rational but it’s also not politics. It’s not what a president does,” said Clinton. She had hoped to hear Trump make an attempt to reach out to non-supporters. “I hoped I would hear a little of that, I didn’t hear any of that. And that carnage in the street and the dark dystopian vision. I was sitting there like just, wow. I couldn’t believe it. And George W. Bush says to me, ‘Well, that was some weird shit,’” she recalled.

Bush’s description of the speech has been lore for some time, after New York magazine published a story in which three people said to have heard Bush make the remark. Turns out, from the mouth of Clinton herself, the rumors are true.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:11:09pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:13:56pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

QAnon has resulted in another murder.

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Well looks like Karma struck back…

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:14:00pm

re: #6 stpaulbear

Meat puppets too:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:14:41pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:14:47pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

QAnon has resulted in another murder.

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One lunatic dead. Another lunatic in custody.

Winning?

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:15:11pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

In a homage to Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain, Post Malone did an online tribute concert in a dress.

Post Malone x Nirvana Tribute - Livestream

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:15:14pm

re: #79 Jebediah, RBG

I got to see them in their first concert in over 10 years about a year and a half ago, I never really knew them, but they were good. Nils Lofgren and Gin Blossoms at same show.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:15:29pm

In the interest of historical accuracy, there were a few newspaper boards that have called for It to resign.

The Portland (Maine) Press-Herald:

msnbc.com

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

stltoday.com

The Hearst papers that cover most of Connecticut:

ctpost.com

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:15:49pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

What does this make it? 0-12? Great batting record DT. Heck the Phillies might be interested in you.

They’re the 2017 Cleveland Browns now I believe.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:19:34pm

Stamford University should be giving Atlas the boot, but is dragging their feet despite Atlas dragging their reputation into the swamp:

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:20:31pm

re: #86 lawhawk

He should have his quack license revoked.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:20:44pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

There was a comment downstairs that said that Fox was propagating the Dominion story, and not Newsmax. Is it the “legitimate” Fox “news” people reporting on this, or their opinion shows which are “entertainment” and have no need to verify anything they say to the public?

The opinion people. The newspeople are calling Biden “President-Elect”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:20:56pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:21:47pm

re: #86 lawhawk

Stamford University should be giving Atlas the boot, but is dragging their feet despite Atlas dragging their reputation into the swamp:

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If he has tenure, that will be hard to do.

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teleskiguy  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:21:52pm

re: #82 lawhawk

MOAR PROOF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS COLLAPSING!!!11!1

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:22:32pm

Do y’all think Biden will do the usual inauguration festivities? I’m thinking he’ll keep it low key, maybe get sworn in in the capitol; no inaugural ball, etc.

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:23:15pm

We just watched the Space Station, and (with binocs) could see the SpaceX capsule below and to the right of it, moving briefly across the SW sky!

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:23:36pm

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump’s going to go out with exactly the same values he came in with.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:25:06pm

Today’s Covid numbers.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:26:03pm

This is fine.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:26:23pm

I. AM. DED.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:27:14pm

re: #71 Sherlock Hound

Friedman, Thomas

Thissen, Marc

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:30:28pm

re: #92 Ace Rothstein

Do y’all think Biden will do the usual inauguration festivities? I’m thinking he’ll keep it low key, maybe get sworn in in the capitol; no inaugural ball, etc.

Biden will not hold superspreader events like Trump does.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:31:36pm

re: #86 lawhawk

Stamford University should be giving Atlas the boot, but is dragging their feet despite Atlas dragging their reputation into the swamp:

Scott Atlas is a member of the Hoover Institution at Stanford. As long as the libertarians maintain their grip on Stanford, they won’t boot Atlas.

Hoover cares about money first and medicine second.

hoover.org

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:32:39pm

re: #96 Ace Rothstein

This is fine.

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Its a shame that there isn’t a multinational diplomatic agreement that limits Iran’s nuclear program with inspections to verify compliance.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:33:26pm

re: #99 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden will not hold superspreader events like Trump does.

I imagine a lot of Biden’s events will be virtual.

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sagehen  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:34:23pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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maybe not entirely unprecedented… Sumner Simpson (Raybestos) and Vandiver Brown (Johns-Manville) might have killed more… not all in one year, of course, their victims were spread out from the 1930’s to 1970’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:34:46pm

re: #101 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its a shame that there isn’t a multinational diplomatic agreement that limits Iran’s nuclear program with inspections to verify compliance.

Or an amendment between 24 and 26. FFS he’s probably still on the Covid roids.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:36:31pm

Is it safe to host Thanksgiving during COVID? Omaha experts weigh in (Omaha World-Herald)

TL;DR version: No
Slightly longer version: Variations of no.

As pandemic concerns and warnings rise in the health care community, so too do questions about celebrating the November and December holidays with family and friends.

The safest option, local experts told The World-Herald, is to celebrate in person with people who live in your immediate household, and to gather virtually with people who live outside your household via a meetup app such as Zoom, FaceTime or WhatsApp.

Experts also recommend following the guidelines set forth by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

(more)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:37:36pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:37:50pm

re: #95 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid numbers.

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In a few weeks, these numbers will look good. I just hope my wife and I survive until we are vaccinated.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:39:08pm

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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The White Power Two Hour

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:40:10pm

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“The stupid isn’t going anywhere; it’s getting bigger.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:43:34pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

CRY MORE YOU PATHETIC VICTIM WANNABEE.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:50:04pm

Panhandle Public Health District’s risk dial has been moved from “severe risk of transmission” to “holy shit.”

The public health districts’ risk dials can only be moved after going through political vetting from the governor’s office.

Panhandle Public Health District Dashboard

All towns in the Nebraska Panhandle are now shown as “severe risk” except Broadwater, Lisco, and Llewellyn (which still have no cases to date).

Total cases: 4,644 (9 recorded yesterday)
November 12 revised up to +265
November 6 revised up to +265
November 3 revised up to +143
October 23 revised up to +106

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retired cynic  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:51:39pm

I’m Not Going to Be Comfortable Until Joe Biden’s Hand Comes Off the Bible, Charlie Pierce

When people tell you what they are, etc. etc.

If you want to stretch the point, remember that, when Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, Republicans in Washington declared that they represented only those people who didn’t vote for him. (Bob Dole was particularly fond of that talking point.) And it’s certainly no secret that the Republicans from Mitch McConnell on down decided that the full powers of Article II were not necessarily the province of Barack Obama. The notion that Democratic officeholders are not legitimately elected is now an article of faith among Republicans, probably because they do not consider many Democratic voters of color to be legitimate voters.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:53:32pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:55:15pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Will never happen. American exceptionalism will not allow rational policymaking.

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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:57:26pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

CA has just comprehensively shit the bed on covid. As of tomorrow, a serious majority of the counties in the state will all be in the worst classification.

I hope I’m wrong, but to me that suggests that CA’s way of doing partial reopening may simply not be valid.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:58:47pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 16, 2020 • 6:59:34pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It is clear that the courts have little patience for his shenanigans.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:01:24pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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If I were the radio show host/lawyer, I’d be crapping my pants right now. You don’t bullshit a federal judge.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:02:50pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

DENIED

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:03:22pm

Atlas wants the elderly to enjoy their last Thanksgiving before dying of covid.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:04:24pm

re: #114 Ace Rothstein

Will never happen. American exceptionalism will not allow rational policymaking.

And, like, what if I run out of weed?

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:05:35pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I hope the judge makes them famous tomorrow.

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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:08:03pm

re: #122 jaunte

I hope the judge makes them famous tomorrow.

Yeah, it’s about time for an example to be made of bad lawyering for Trump to discourage the others.

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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:08:59pm

re: #120 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dr. Atlas is a Republican. Of course unnecessary death gives him a hardon.

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:11:51pm
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BeachDem  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:20:27pm

re: #43 Dread Pirate Ron

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:20:53pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:21:23pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Lock everything down and use federal funds to keep small businesses afloat that are harmed by the shutdown.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:21:34pm

“The republic won’t survive…”

and Republicans don’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:22:57pm

Cities here are tired of being held hostage by Gov. Ricketts.

Kearney City Council to consider mask ordinance at emergency meeting (Kearney, Nebr. Hub)

KEARNEY — The Kearney City Council will conduct an emergency meeting and public hearing Tuesday to consider a temporary mask ordinance for the city.

Tuesday’s meeting follows a presentation last week in which executives of Kearney’s two hospitals told the City Council that the volume of COVID-19 cases is overwhelming nurses and other medical staff members in Kearney. They said the public’s assistance is necessary to avert a public health disaster.

“We need more happening at the community level. We need the public’s help,” said Bill Calhoun, CEO of Kearney Regional Medical Center.

In response, the council on Tuesday will hear recommendations from the Kearney Board of Health and then discuss whether to approve a recommended mask ordinance.

According to City Attorney Michael Tye, a proposed emergency ordinance would take effect three days after passage. The ordinance spells out when and where masks would be required, but it doesn’t include restrictions or controls over business operations, except that businesses and public places must post the mask requirement and require masks inside.

(more)

Tougher restrictions not enacted today, governor encouraging diligence (Grand Island Independent)

YORK - Governor Pete Ricketts said Monday morning that the COVID-related hospitalizations in the state have remained at 20 percent of total capacity and heightened restrictions are not yet being required.

If that rate moves to 25 percent, however, tougher restrictions will be put in place.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:23:03pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:25:01pm

re: #131 jaunte

Another good example of this is to imagine what would have happened if Senate Republicans fell in line for Nixon the way they did for Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:25:37pm

re: #127 jaunte

Unfortunately nothing will happen to Graham and this scandal will disappear just like scores of other Trump era scandals. IOKIYAR.

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gwangung  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:26:00pm

re: #131 jaunte

And because they’ve normalized Republican corruption, they’ve also conditioned the nation to expect Democrats to be just as corrupt…because, “both sides” now.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:27:39pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:28:28pm

Latest transmission rate in Los Angeles has risen. The Rt is now 1.2 and the + rate is 5.1. Looks like we’re gonna slip back into a bigger lockdown.

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:28:31pm

re: #131 jaunte
re: #132 EPR-radar
re: #133 Patricia Kayden
re: #134 gwangung

cf. Britt’s fourteen defining characteristics of fascism:

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:29:02pm

re: #134 gwangung

Not really. If Democrats even dream of doing 1/100th of what Trump has gotten away with, Republicans would scream bloody murder and the MSM would be right there with them. Look at the “scandals” that still dog Hillary Clinton.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:29:08pm

re: #135 jaunte

John Fetterman is still waiting for $25,000 in Sheetz gift cards…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:29:16pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:29:20pm

re: #134 gwangung

And because they’ve normalized Republican corruption, they’ve also conditioned the nation to expect Democrats to be just as corrupt…because, “both sides” now.

However, if any Democrats in office get caught being corrupt, that will get a full condemnation from the media.

As always, the Great Both-Sides Lie tilts in favor of Republicans in every conceivable way.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:30:04pm

re: #137 Teukka

I guarantee you the Trumps will be pilfering from the White House on their way out.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:31:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:31:32pm

re: #134 gwangung

And because they’ve normalized Republican corruption, they’ve also conditioned the nation to expect Democrats to be just as corrupt…because, “both sides” now.

(4:34, 1969)

Both Sides Now

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:31:57pm

re: #142 jaunte

I guarantee you the Trumps will be pilfering from the White House on their way out.

I concur. Am I too sadistic hoping for the USSS patting them down out on the street for stolen shit?

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:32:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:32:41pm

re: #143 Belafon

Because the MSM is obsessed with Trump voters. It’s nauseating.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:33:25pm
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:33:32pm

re: #145 Teukka

“Hey, nice Andrew Jackson painting. Does it chafe you in there?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:34:26pm

re: #136 🌹UOJB!

Latest transmission rate in Los Angeles has risen. The Rt is now 1.2 and the + rate is 5.1. Looks like we’re gonna slip back into a bigger lockdown.

You could live here, where they won’t report the rate and nothing gets shut down at all, and a feral conservative threatens your wife for wearing a mask.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:34:36pm

re: #142 jaunte

I guarantee you the Trumps will be pilfering from the White House on their way out.

And they will set the White House on fire after shitting on all the carpets.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:38:25pm

re: #142 jaunte

I guarantee you the Trumps will be pilfering from the White House on their way out.

Better doublecheck the White House fine china and the silverware, because these mooks - the Trumps - are probably gonna swipe it and try to sell it on ebay.

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plansbandc  Nov 16, 2020 • 7:39:10pm

re: #151 The Pie Overlord!

It’s going to look like the aftermath of “Our house is condemned let’s throw one last party” frat party. At the very least, the entire interior is going to have to be redone.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 16, 2020 • 8:30:19pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

Somewhere I saw 1-24.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 16, 2020 • 9:40:05pm

re: #57 William Lewis

They were like that. Either the Best or the Worst, rarely were they meh. I remember seeing Paul pull one of the Best shows after he’d sobered up and I couldn’t help but wonder how things would have been if he hadn’t been so terrified of success?

I have always kind of had the impression that it wasn’t so much fear of success as it was fear of the identity crisis success could cause for him. If you are at least partly defining yourself by your rejection of society and/or its trappings of and definitions of success, how can you work for, or even accept, success without negating yourself?
I think I can empathize with and understand that idea and ones like it.


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