Some Acoustic Guitar Excellence for New Year’s Day: Dustin Furlow, “Andy’s Gift”

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From the album “Woodscapes” - now available on all platforms.
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1
Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:22:26am

Just wanted to start off the new thread by sending healing thoughts to Michele, Joe Bacon and all the other lizards experiencing loss. You are all on my mind as we being the new year. 💜💚

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:23:26am

re: #1 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Thank you so much.

So grateful Charles provides a place where sanity still prevails.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:28:36am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:29:06am
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:30:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:30:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:31:19am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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repeating myself from downstairs:

“calvary”

morons

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:31:21am

It probably won’t surprise anyone here that on Parler Alex Jones is heavily promoting anti-vaccer conspiracy theories. The only silver lining is that rational people won’t have to wait as long for a vaccination.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:31:51am

I am really afraid of what Republicans are going to pull on the 6th.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:32:08am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

“The calvary is coming”?

At this point I am convinced they don’t use spellcheck to own the Libs.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:32:16am

re: #5 jaunte

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I read elsewhere that Junior was super psyched that Vanilla Ice played the party.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:32:51am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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On the battlefield, one should send in the cavalry, which is the word for an army component mounted on horseback. The similarly spelled word calvary however, refers to “an open air depiction of the crucifixion,” or more recently “an experience of intense suffering.”

So, who do they plan to crucify?

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:33:58am

re: #12 BeachDem

On the battlefield, one should send in the cavalry, which is the word for an army component mounted on horseback. The similarly spelled word calvary however, refers to “an open air depiction of the crucifixion,” or more recently “an experience of intense suffering.”

So, who do they plan to crucify?

I’m sure that the QAssholes will say that message contains secret numeric codes that state it’s time for THE STORM…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:34:15am

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:36:27am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:36:29am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:36:46am

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:37:52am

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

I am really afraid of what Republicans are going to pull on the 6th.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:38:18am

re: #18 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:38:38am

re: #17 jaunte

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:40:00am
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:41:21am

Limbaugh needs to be arrested for sedition.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:42:48am

re: #21 jaunte

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There is no scenario in which this is plausible. There are not enough Democrats who will go along with this, and the Electoral Count Act (still in force, and GOHMERT!’s stupid lawsuit is not going to change that) ensures that only the officially certified slate of electors can be chosen in the event of a dispute in Congress. Hell, as pointed out in the House amicus brief to said lawsuit, in Arizona there isn’t even the pretense of an “alternate slate” - by casting their votes for Trump, the putative Republican electors disqualified themselves from being electors at all. Arizona has a faithless-electors law that revokes their status as electors if they fail to vote for the candidate who received the most popular votes.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:43:10am

Trump’s pinned tweet right now

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:43:11am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:45:12am

Happy New Year, everyone. It can’t be much worse than 2020, a savage bitch of a year if there ever was one.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:46:15am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

And a very Happy New Year to you Charles. I hope this one is better than the last one.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:47:00am

re: #27 PhillyPretzel

And a very Happy New Year to you Charles. I hope this one is better than the last one.

That’s what my neighbor said to me yesterday when we were exchanging pleasantries. My response was the same in spirit as Charles’s. It really can’t get much worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:47:37am

moron thinks he knows the Constitution better than anyone else:

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:47:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:48:07am

re: #28 thedopefishlives

I agree. There are too many things that are up in the air. I would like to see things settle soon.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:49:15am

re: #22 🌹UOJB!

Limbaugh needs to be arrested for sedition.

Why isn’t he dead? 2020 you failed, taking innocent loved ones while this fucker still remains.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:50:06am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Happy New Year, everyone. It can’t be much worse than 2020, a savage bitch of a year if there ever was one.

And to you, Charles.

And all the lizards.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:50:31am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron thinks he knows the Constitution better than anyone else:

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Hey Fuckface McGee, which state legislatures have approved their “alternate slates”? Oh, that’s right, NONE OF THEM, KATIE. So kindly fuck off and keep your objections to yourself, you asshat.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:52:31am

Good news so far. VAERS is a vaccine side effect reporting site. Anyone can submit. Includes untreated ailments like short-term headaches etc.
1/1/21 download, most recent report 12/18/20
Vaccine Initial Doses 2,700,000
Reported Deaths From Side effects 0
Percentage of those vaccinated killed by side effects 0.00%
Total reported to VAERS 1/1/21 353
Percentage of vaccine recipients that reported side effects 0.0131%
Los Angeles County fatality rate as a percentage of cases 1.34%

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:52:55am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron thinks he knows the Constitution better than anyone else:

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Massie is in violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. He is advocating rebellion and he must be expelled from the House and banned from any elective of appointive office per Section 3.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:53:37am

Every year for the last 30, my company has sent New Year champagne out to clients. This year the wrapper design fell to me. Had to think for a bit about what message would be appropriate after the hellyear of 2020 without getting too political. Since we’re a pretty varied group of people from around the world, I based the design on a collection of toasts to good health from around the world, incorporated into a ‘champagne bubbles’ pattern. Managed to fit in about 79 different languages before running out of design time…

Here’s to you all at LGF, and may your 2021 be lived in good health!

…

…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:54:20am

Have conservatives really thought this through?

I mean, let’s say that by some freak occurrence one of their Hail Marys worked and Trump was given a second term.

Do they really think 80 million people would just go along with it and not put up any kind of fight?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:54:44am

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Have conservatives really thought this through?

I mean, let’s say that by some freak occurrence one of their Hail Marys worked and Trump was given a second term.

Do they really think 80 million people would just go along with it and not put up any kind of fight?

Well, yes. Liberals don’t own guns, remember?////

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:55:17am

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:55:57am

re: #37 jaunte

That is an excellent design.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:56:14am

re: #37 jaunte

👏👏 WELL DONE 👏👏

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:56:27am

re: #37 jaunte

It’s beautiful.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:56:30am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Thanks! I learned a few good toasts.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:56:35am

re: #12 BeachDem

On the battlefield, one should send in the cavalry, which is the word for an army component mounted on horseback. The similarly spelled word calvary however, refers to “an open air depiction of the crucifixion,” or more recently “an experience of intense suffering.”

So, who do they plan to crucify?

Richard & Linda Thompson / The Calvary Cross

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:57:12am

What the President is tweeting for New Year’s:

What the next President is tweeting for New Year’s:

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:58:08am

It had a couple of Easter eggs:

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:59:28am

Happy New Year and thanks for the ongoing conversation.

My wife and I would ordinarily celebrate 2020 as personally being tied with 2019 as the best years of our lives in many ways. The list of good things that happened to us and the things we got done is long. Our family, out to each kid, their kid, and their spouse also had a good year. We are financially stronger and we avoided the bad things, like getting the plague.

This is something I would ordinarily post to my 2,200 Facebook friends about on New Year’s Day but we’ve decided that there is too much bad happening to people to share our good fortune with people who really know us.

So, since y’all don’t really know me I’m probably not going to hurt your feelings by sharing it here.

I hope we are all in a better place next January 1, and I don’t mean Heaven.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 10:59:54am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Happy New Year, everyone. It can’t be much worse than 2020, a savage bitch of a year if there ever was one.

We just need to make it thru January, then we just need to make it through Winter, then we just need to make it to summer…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:00:22am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:00:54am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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WTH?!!!!

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:01:01am

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

What the President is tweeting on New Year’s Day:

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Trump is always a weasel. He never fully commits and leaves room to distance himself. Why anyone would count on Trump’s support and loyalty in the future will remain an eternal mystery to me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:01:04am

re: #48 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

No reason to feel bad about having a good run. My personal 2020 wasn’t half bad either in a lot of ways.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:02:15am

re: #48 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I celebrate people who have had a good year. The fact that it was a hellacious year for myself and many others should not cause you to feel bad for your good fortune.

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:03:10am

re: #36 🌹UOJB!

Massie is in violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. He is advocating rebellion and he must be expelled from the House and banned from any elective of appointive office per Section 3.

And I guess this fool doesn’t realize, or assumes (and -sadly - correctly, most probably) that his readership doesn’t, either: that all 50 States and DC already have appointed their Electors in the provided “Manner”, and all said results have been duly certified by all 50 States and DC. That those results aren’t what Massie wanted doesn’t mean shit…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:04:29am

re: #45 stpaulbear

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Such a great album!

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:05:12am

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Have conservatives really thought this through?

I mean, let’s say that by some freak occurrence one of their Hail Marys worked and Trump was given a second term.

Do they really think 80 million people would just go along with it and not put up any kind of fight?

In their fantasy world, the immediate aftermath of a Trump coup is his announcing that he’ll use the Insurrection Act to arrest and imprison any who question his rule. That not only includes any Democrats who question his “reelection,” but everyone down to common citizens to protest in the streets. Since his “reelection” will mean he remains CinC, the Armed Forces will have no choice but to follow his orders so as to put down “rebellion” against his rule. And the courts will treat the whole thing as totally “legit,” so even trying to challenge the coup in the courts will fail. Oh, and all Congressional Dems who refuse to bend the knee will be removed from office and Repubs loyal to him put in his place, because Q has told them such will happen and they’ve never been wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:06:37am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

“The calvary is coming”?

At this point I am convinced they don’t use spellcheck to own the Libs.

Either that or they want to crucify someone. Easter makes war on the New Year.

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:06:50am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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I like how the clinic is trying to assure folks that there is no danger of side-effects from being injected with the spoiled batch and that they had no idea this had happened until the alarm was sounded. It has “PLEASE DON’T SUE US!” written all over it.

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lizardofid  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:08:45am

I’d like to wish everyone a happy and hopeful new year.

Also, just wondering, is this the first time new year’s day has fallen on a blursday?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:09:16am

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Have conservatives really thought this through?

I mean, let’s say that by some freak occurrence one of their Hail Marys worked and Trump was given a second term.

Do they really think 80 million people would just go along with it and not put up any kind of fight?

The leaders know it’s not going to work; it’s theater to demonstrate their abject fealty to Trump. The death cultists are yearning for a civil war that lets them start killing people with their arsenals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:11:13am

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:12:44am

True Americans in the Government Continue to Stand Against Trump, by El Jefe on Juanita Jean’s

Feels good story!

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:13:24am

re: #60 lizardofid

I’d like to wish everyone a happy and hopeful new year.

Also, just wondering, is this the first time new year’s day has fallen on a blursday?

Of course not: because of the structure of our calendar, any particular date (like Jan. 1st) is going to “migrate” through the week. And NYD falls on a Friday this year, because 2020 was a Leap Year - it otherwise would have been Weds. and Thursday.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:13:49am

re: #56 Barefoot Grin

Such a great album!

Yes. I’m listening to the whole album right now. I got turned on to so much good music when my grandma bought me a subscription to Stereo Review in the early 70’s. Nothing like this was getting played on the radio.

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Nojay UK  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:14:02am

re: #59 Targetpractice

I like how the clinic is trying to assure folks that there is no danger of side-effects from being injected with the spoiled batch

I’m pretty sure the Pfizer and Moderna folks evaluated what would happen with a spoiled batch of vaccine due to incorrect handling wrt temperatures. It’s not likely the lipid capsule carrying the mRNA in the vaccine would become poisonous or toxic in any way, after all it warms up to body temperature pretty much as soon as it’s injected into the patient. The big downside is that the spoiled vaccine wouldn’t work properly as a vaccine rather than it makes everyone burst out in green spots because it was warmed up incorrectly.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:14:03am

re: #55 Jay C

And I guess this fool doesn’t realize, or assumes (and -sadly - correctly, most probably) that his readership doesn’t, either: that all 50 States and DC already have appointed their Electors in the provided “Manner”, and all said results have been duly certified by all 50 States and DC. That those results aren’t what Massie wanted doesn’t mean shit…

There is no alternative slate of Trump electors, because the people pretending to be so were not certified by any state body with the authority to do so. It’s just theater for the death cultists.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:15:47am

re: #65 stpaulbear

Yes. I’m listening to the whole album right now. I got turned on to so much good music when my grandma bought me a subscription to Stereo Review in the early 70’s. Nothing like this was getting played on the radio.

I was lucky to have a brother 8 years my elder who was a DJ at his college radio station. He brought home dairy crates full of promo albums and duplicates. He got me into Fairport Convention, Richard and Linda, Nick Drake, etc. when I was in high school.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:15:54am

re: #18 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:16:04am
DENVER (AP) — Public health restrictions for places like restaurants and gyms are set to be eased in the much of Colorado starting next week.

Gov. Jared Polis announced the change on social media late Wednesday, citing sustained improvement in the state’s COVID-19 data, including intensive care units operating below capacity. He said he is asking the state health department to move counties with level red restrictions, including Denver and the rest of the populated Front Range region, to level orange starting on Monday.

“This is a direct result of Coloradans stepping up and taking the steps to protect themselves and others,” he said, noting that the state has tried to balance dealing with the pandemic and the resulting economic crisis.

The announcement came a day after Colorado said it had confirmed the United States’ first case of a new and apparently more contagious variant of the coronavirus.

Level red, Colorado’s second-highest level of restrictions, limits public gatherings and bans indoor dining. In counties rated as orange, restaurants can have in-person dining limited to 25% capacity or 50 people and gyms can increase their capacity to 25% or 25 people. Gatherings of up to 10 people from no more than two households are also allowed.

(more)

Virus restrictions to be eased in much of Colorado next week (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:17:48am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Virus restrictions to be eased in much of Colorado next week (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

Bad idea.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:19:32am
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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:22:25am

re: #66 Nojay UK

I’m pretty sure the Pfizer and Moderna folks evaluated what would happen with a spoiled batch of vaccine due to incorrect handling wrt temperatures. It’s not likely the lipid capsule carrying the mRNA in the vaccine would become poisonous or toxic in any way, after all it warms up to body temperature pretty much as soon as it’s injected into the patient. The big downside is that the spoiled vaccine wouldn’t work properly as a vaccine rather than it makes everyone burst out in green spots because it was warmed up incorrectly.

Which is all well and good, but this is a litigious nation where people are quick to jump onto any admission of fault (direct or otherwise). Hence why the clinic is going out of its way to assure folks that the spoiled vials are not dangerous, as there’s virtually no doubt whatsoever that if one of those injected with such should develop any sort of medical malady in the coming days, they will be skimming the yellow pages for a lawyer soon after.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:23:42am

re: #37 jaunte

What a BEAUTIFUL design!!!!!! Can’t praise it enough!!!!!

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:24:49am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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The idea that the party (in part or as a whole) are not supportive at least in theory of a successful Trump coup is ridiculous. If you hear a Repub tell you that they don’t support Trump’s efforts, what they’re really telling you is they’re only against such because they don’t believe he can succeed. If they thought he could, there would be virtually no resistance to the idea of overturning the election results next week.

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Nojay UK  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:26:29am

re: #37 jaunte

I do love the way you’ve managed to integrate coronavirus visually into the “bubbles” in the design. Very 2020!

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:26:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:28:08am

re: #71 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bad idea.

I thought so as well. The restrictions they’re going to are still far better than those we have (none).

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:28:34am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:28:42am

re: #37 jaunte

I love this. I can only draw with pencil and paper, and even that’s iffy. You did a wonderful job, hope you at least got a bonus or an extra bottle of champagne.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:30:49am

re: #68 Barefoot Grin

I was lucky to have a brother 8 years my elder who was a DJ at his college radio station. He brought home dairy crates full of promo albums and duplicates. He got me into Fairport Convention, Richard and Linda, Nick Drake, etc. when I was in high school.

I’m jealous. I had a sister one year older who’s boyfriend was a few years older and hung out with the local hip musicians. I’d been kind of singles oriented, but then she came home with Best of Cream, Led Zeppelin 1, and CCR’s Bayou Country. It was as game changing as the Beatles’ appearances on Ed Sullivan.

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plansbandc  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:30:55am

re: #37 jaunte

It’s beautiful! Well done!

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:32:31am

I love her. Someday she will be a wonderful First Lady!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:32:50am

re: #80 A Mom Anon

We got a couple but we’re saving them until the 20th!

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:33:06am

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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As usual, this shit only ever cuts one way. A “liberal” who leaves the “left” is viewed as evidence that the “left” are becoming “radicals” and “socialists” who are scaring off people who were always secretly conservative at heart.

But a conservative announces that the modern right are so toxic that they want nothing to do with them…and the response is a resounding “THEY WERE NEVER A CONSERVATIVE!!!”

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:34:01am

re: #74 🌹UOJB!

Thank you; it was fun to finally see it in color.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:35:14am

re: #85 Targetpractice

As usual, this shit only ever cuts one way. A “liberal” who leaves the “left” is viewed as evidence that the “left” are becoming “radicals” and “socialists” who are scaring off people who were always secretly conservative at heart.

But a conservative announces that the modern right are so toxic that they want nothing to do with them…and the response is a resounding “THEY WERE NEVER A CONSERVATIVE!!!”

Conservatism is a religion. Christians and Muslims do the same.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:35:14am

If the stakes weren’t clear enough:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:36:08am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

“The calvary is coming”?

At this point I am convinced they don’t use spellcheck to own the Libs.

Or it’s intended for hard core Christians.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:37:33am

24-year-old man goes to Omaha hospital for firework injury, discovers he’s been shot
omaha.com

He told the police he had no idea how he was injured by gunfire.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:39:01am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

24-year-old man goes to Omaha hospital for firework injury, discovers he’s been shot
omaha.com

He told the police he had no idea how he was injured by gunfire.

I suspect alcohol was involved.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:39:34am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

And a very Happy New Year to you and all the Lizards!

May 2021 be way less…interesting.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:39:52am

Well the Senate just overrode Trump’s veto of the Defense appropriations bill…

washingtonpost.com

Happy New Year, President Poopy Pants!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:41:38am
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:42:29am

re: #94 jaunte

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Oh Did President Poopy Pants fart on the First Lady?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:42:57am

re: #93 🌹UOJB!

Well the Senate just overrode Trump’s veto of the Defense appropriations bill…

washingtonpost.com

Happy New Year, President Poopy Pants!

After going around in circles a couple of times trying to explain why Trump vetoed the NDAA, Mrs. Fish just looked at me and goes, “I’m so confused. I’m sure I’m not the only one.” She’s not wrong.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:43:37am

Just waiting for that ass to melt down on Twitter again!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:44:00am

re: #95 🌹UOJB!

She’s living dangerously.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:44:08am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more)

Virus restrictions to be eased in much of Colorado next week (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

“Hey everyone, the rain is letting up! Let’s go outside!”

*downpour resumes ten minutes later*

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:44:25am

This is the PERFECT statement piece to start 2021. This is one of the few times you’ll hear me say this - thank you, United States Senate.

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Semper Fi  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:44:52am

re: #16 🌹UOJB!

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nines09  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:46:14am

thread

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:46:32am

“Locational”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:48:19am

re: #102 nines09

thread

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Damn, that was some epic ownage.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:48:22am

Joe ought to seize the Trump DC Hotel under eminent domain and use it for Executive offices until the White House and Executive Office Building are thoroughly sterilized.re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Locational”

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:49:32am
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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:50:12am

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn, that was some epic ownage.

Using her own words, too. Hoist by her own petard.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:50:51am

Joe should seize the Trump DC Hotel under eminent domain and use it for Executive Offices until the entire White House, Air Force One, Executive Office Building, limousines, Marine 1 and all other Presidential areas are totally sterilized!

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:52:33am

The No votes on overriding—NAYs —-12 Braun (R-IN) Cruz (R-TX) Hawley (R-MO) Kennedy (R-LA) Lee (R-UT) Markey (D-MA) Merkley (D-OR) Paul (R-KY) Sanders (I-VT) Van Hollen (D-MD) Warren (D-MA) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 8 Blackburn (R-TN) Cotton (R-AR) Gardner (R-CO) Graham (R-SC) Jones (D-AL) Loeffler (R-GA) Perdue (R-GA) Rubio (R-FL)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:52:35am

Meanwhile to our north:

A South Dakota federal judge harshly criticized Gov. Kristi Noem and the state court system’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic in an order that also strongly condemned a state judge and prosecutor for violating a defendant’s Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial.

South Dakota can’t “‘take advantage’ of its own failures to follow scientific facts and safeguards in entering blanket denials of the rights of speedy trials,” Judge Charles Kornmann wrote in a Dec 28 document.

Kornmann sided with Matthew Kurtenbach, a defendant who represented himself, over arguments written by lawyers for Brad Howell, the Codington County sheriff that’s detaining Kurtenbach pre-trial.

“South Dakota has done little, if anything, to curtail the spread of the virus” Kornmann wrote in his opinion and order.

(more)

Federal judge slams Noem, state court’s response to pandemic in speedy trial order (Rapid City, SD Journal)

TL;DR, he was arrested for a bad cheque and for allegedly violating a no-contact order with his ex-girlfriend, claming he attacked her (from that second allegation, they tacked on 120 other charges).

The man has sat in jail for over a year. South Dakota has a law which says a case must be heard within 180 days.

After multiple dozens of complaints to the state courts, he has taken his case to federal court, alleging violation of his VI Amendment rights to a speedy trial.

The ex-girlfriend sent an affidavit to the federal judge saying the assault never happened, therefore the man is arguing that charge and the 120 charges stemming from it should be dropped.

The governor’s office says the judge is politicising the case, and after all he would since he’s a Bill Clinton appointee and used to work for the SD Democratic Party.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:53:52am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nice to see the judge butt bongo Killer Kristian Kristi!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:54:00am

re: #96 thedopefishlives

After going around in circles a couple of times trying to explain why Trump vetoed the NDAA, Mrs. Fish just looked at me and goes, “I’m so confused. I’m sure I’m not the only one.” She’s not wrong.

Because he wants to sue Twitter.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:54:34am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because he wants to sue Twitter.

She was confused about what Section 230 has to do with the military. I couldn’t really figure out how to explain that part to her.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:54:47am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because he wants to sue Twitter.

Which makes me wonder why the Tangsnorter hasn’t shown up on Parler!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:56:04am

re: #113 thedopefishlives

She was confused about what Section 230 has to do with the military. I couldn’t really figure out how to explain that part to her.

It doesn’t. He just wants it tacked into a “must-pass” bill as poison for the Democrats.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:56:51am

Happy New Year Lizards. Thank you for keeping my person sane.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:56:52am

re: #114 🌹UOJB!

Which makes me wonder why the Tangsnorter hasn’t shown up on Parler!

No Democrats for the Troll-in-Chief to go after there.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:58:14am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It doesn’t. He just wants it tacked into a “must-pass” bill as poison for the Democrats.

Exactly. She couldn’t get her mind around that as a concept. I did my best, but credit to my wife - she’s unable to comprehend the level of stupid that Trump has going on in his brain.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:58:51am

re: #47 jaunte

It had a couple of Easter eggs:

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Is one of them the Hebrew toast being spelled backwards?

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:58:58am

While the failure of the GOuP is certain, it is only because the Dems happen, by chance, to have the majority in the House right now.

If it weren’t for that, all bets would be off.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 11:59:10am

re: #100 thedopefishlives

This is the PERFECT statement piece to start 2021. This is one of the few times you’ll hear me say this - thank you, United States Senate.

I think the last time I said that I was actually saying thank you to John McCain for his vote on ACA reforms.

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sagehen  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:00:29pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I like how the clinic is trying to assure folks that there is no danger of side-effects from being injected with the spoiled batch and that they had no idea this had happened until the alarm was sounded. It has “PLEASE DON’T SUE US!” written all over it.

Fauci was asked about this in an interview yesterday.

He said spoiling vaccines like this won’t affect the safety of the injection at all; it will damage the effectiveness. The danger is in the behavior of people who think they’re vaccinated but they aren’t.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:01:15pm

re: #105 🌹UOJB!

Joe ought to seize the Trump DC Hotel under eminent domain and use it for Executive offices until the White House and Executive Office Building are thoroughly sterilized.

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Given who’s most likely stayed at the hotel this past year, it’s just as infected as the White House.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:01:51pm
In 20 days, millions of people in America and around the world will take to the streets with joy and relief in their hearts, COVID-19 be damned. (Wear masks, please!)

In 20 days, millions of people in America and around the world will spontaneously burst into tears, and many of them will not be expecting that, because they don’t usually spontaneously burst into tears. But they will anyway.

In 20 days, millions of people in America and around the world will feel the oddest feeling, and it will be the lifting of the weight that’s been on them ever since November 8, 2016, and January 20, 2017. The existential dread will start to be eased. Of course, because Donald Trump has been such a malevolent, selfish failure, it won’t just go away. For many of us, Trump’s presidency, especially since the start of the pandemic he worked so hard to spread, has been full of tragedy that will stay with us forever. Even those of us who have fared generally pretty well will have to heal, will have to bear scars.

(more)

2020: The Year We Motherf*ckin WON. (Wonkette)

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:01:54pm

re: #109 🌹UOJB!

The No votes on overriding—NAYs —-12 Braun (R-IN) Cruz (R-TX) Hawley (R-MO) Kennedy (R-LA) Lee (R-UT) Markey (D-MA) Merkley (D-OR) Paul (R-KY) Sanders (I-VT) Van Hollen (D-MD) Warren (D-MA) Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 8 Blackburn (R-TN) Cotton (R-AR) Gardner (R-CO) Graham (R-SC) Jones (D-AL) Loeffler (R-GA) Perdue (R-GA) Rubio (R-FL)

Is Loeffler quarantined too? Why did she not vote?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:03:27pm

re: #123 Dr. Teddy’s Person

How about Blair House? Isn’t it the place that is usually used by an incoming POTUS?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:03:39pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because he wants to sue Twitter.

And make sure any military bases named after Confederate traitors stay named after Confederate traitors.

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plansbandc  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:04:03pm
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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:04:22pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

She was confused about what Section 230 has to do with the military. I couldn’t really figure out how to explain that part to her.

Anyone supporting this would claim it’s a matter of national security.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:04:25pm

I’m off for a nap. Catch y’all later.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:04:28pm

And lets check in with what DeSADIST allowed in FloriDUMB last night…

20 Million COVID Cases and THIS Is What People Did Last Night

From Miami to Orlando, people jammed streets, bars, and restaurants as though the pandemic was history.

thedailybeast.com

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:04:56pm

I remember some Lizards arguing that the US still needed the GOP, because two-party system after all.

And? Do you still think so?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:05:48pm
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A Mom Anon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:06:11pm

Some good news:

We had to sit down with the Kid and help him pick out new insurance, since the temp agency he’s working for/through offers total crap passing for health/dental insurance. Dental is important for him, because even though he rarely has a cavity, he has a 5K bridge in his mouth from an accident where his two front teeth were broken off at school (which makes me think it wasn’t an”accident” but I digress). So we found a plan with a higher than normal deductible-the bridge is about 14 yrs old, that will cover 80 percent of the cost if he’s in network, etc. It’s a lot more expensive, but still under 50 bucks a month. Last night he told me that they wanted 104 bucks from him for February’s premium. I told him we’d get after it today and see what’s what. He did it himself without any help, chatted with someone live on line and they fixed it for him. This may not seem like much, but for a young man who struggles with executive functioning, it’s a BFD. He said his goal for the year is to be more financially responsible and pay off his car. He also hugged me and thanked me for trying to teach him all this stuff. I cried a little. It’s been such a long road to here, OMG.

Bad news:
My inlaws just did something incredibly stupid.
They live in the Ft Lauderdale area and have been really good about quarantine and taking precautions. One of their beloved doggos died earlier this year and they decided to get a new puppy, who is freaking so cute it hurts. However what’s not so cool is that they took the new pup up to central FL whew FIL’s sister lives. The same sister whose younger daughter, husband and two kids, age almost 1 and 7 are all in isolation because they ALL have covid. As of now, they are all ok, just a bit fevery and tired, but none of the other symptoms. BUT, FIL’s sister and husband are serious right wing loons, and how does anyone know if they’ve been masking up and all that? Because we don’t know. And they want The Husband to come down and visit next month. NO. Husband told them not til they’ve isolated for 21 days. He visited them over the summer, but everyone was doing all the right stuff and Husband only stopped for gas, I packed food for him to take and he had multiple masks, hand sanitizer, etc with him for the trip down and back. My mother in law is diabetic, has minor heart issues and is suffering from serious memory problems, all of these things make her susceptible to Covid. Why in the hell would they do this crap? The family was rocked by the death of Husband’s only brother almost a year ago, he had been sick with COPD and the effects of being an opiate addict for at least 10 yrs (suboxone is only supposed to be a temporary thing, he was on it for at least 7 yrs). He also refused to quit smoking and set himself on fire three fucking times for smoking with live oxygen on his face. He was not a good person, but you’d think losing a family member would kinda ring some bells. Damn it. Yours truly won’t be visiting Florida any time soon. If husband goes, I’m not sure how to deal, but he won’t be sleeping with me and Cleo that’s for starters. Sigh. I cannot anymore.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:06:39pm

re: #126 PhillyPretzel

How about Blair House? Isn’t it the place that is usually used by an incoming POTUS?

That was my thought, have them live in Blair House for a month or two just to be sure.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:06:44pm

re: #132 Nyet

I remember some Lizards arguing that the US still needed the GOP, because two-party system after all.

And? Do you still think so?

Two-party system doesn’t mean we have to include the GOP.

The Democrats can split into the Democratic Socialists (Bernie, etc.) and the, uh, Democrats (Joe Biden, etc.)

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:07:21pm

re: #116 Dr. Teddy’s Person

James Taylor - Your Smiling Face (Live at the Beacon Theater)

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:09:55pm

Memories of hearing this all thru the 80s on KROQ…

White Lines (Don’t Don’t Do It) Original Long Version - Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel

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Semper Fi  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:09:58pm

Last night, as I lay waiting for sleep a bit before midnight, I thought this is the strangest New Years Eve I have ever experienced. Not a sound, I never heard even one shot, nor cracker, nothing. Compared to all other NYE’s it gave me pause for thought. Are people finally changing? No more shooting in the air and scaring animals. How nice but it was not normal.
I was happy to hear about Joe’s normal experience in Koreatown as mine was too different, even ominous.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:10:00pm

re: #136 The Pie Overlord!

Two-party system doesn’t mean we have to include the GOP.

The Democrats can split into the Democratic Socialists (Bernie, etc.) and the, uh, Democrats (Joe Biden, etc.)

That’s my idea too.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:10:18pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

💚💜 A Mom Anon’s Son 💙🧡

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:11:16pm

re: #126 PhillyPretzel

How about Blair House? Isn’t it the place that is usually used by an incoming POTUS?

Pompeo made certain it too was infused with who knows what:

Dismissing health concerns, State Department treats 200 guests to holiday drinks, tours and leftover ‘Be Best’ swag
The State Department hosted roughly 200 guests Tuesday night at the presidential guesthouse despite concerns of public health experts and a new positive coronavirus case on the premises since last week, according to two U.S. officials.

The party included a tour of the White House’s vaunted holiday decorations followed by a self-guided tour across the street at Blair House, where foreign diplomats, their families, U.S. staffers and friends and acquaintances of the State Department’s chief of protocol convened.

washingtonpost.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:12:14pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Okay. I am sorry for saying that.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:12:15pm

Heh.

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nines09  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:15:54pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Bragging about your time as CEO of Cracka Dolla Genra stores is peak craka.

David Perdue’s Dollar General Was Sued 2,500 Times for Sex, Race, Wage Practices

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:16:32pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Ugh, maybe Joe can just stay in Delaware for a couple of weeks.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:17:13pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

aww, the happy couple is fighting. Boo Fucking Hoo. I bet Pence doesn’t show his face in DC anytime soon unless he can avoid Trump entirely somehow.

Every single room in the White House, Blair House and all the vehicles, planes etc that are at the President and VPs disposal will need to be cleaned and then allowed to sit for a few days to make sure nothing awful is left behind. I wouldn’t set foot in any of those places until all that was done. You know motherfuckers are coughing on shit and making a mess of things hoping to get someone in the new administration sick. I put nothing past this bunch of psychopaths. Nothing.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:17:41pm

re: #132 Nyet

I remember some Lizards arguing that the US still needed the GOP, because two-party system after all.

And? Do you still think so?

We still need a two party system. Repugs shouldn’t be one of them. (Come on, you know what happens in one-party countries.)

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:18:41pm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:19:38pm

re: #132 Nyet

I remember some Lizards arguing that the US still needed the GOP, because two-party system after all.

And? Do you still think so?

We need a sane center right party, but definitely not the fascist party that currently exists. I just don’t know how we get one from where we are now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:20:51pm

re: #131 🌹UOJB!

And lets check in with what DeSADIST allowed in FloriDUMB last night…

20 Million COVID Cases and THIS Is What People Did Last Night

From Miami to Orlando, people jammed streets, bars, and restaurants as though the pandemic was history.

thedailybeast.com

The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:20:58pm

re: #148 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

We still need a two party system. Repugs shouldn’t be one of them. (Come on, you know what happens in one-party countries.)

And nothing I wrote implied one, so we agree.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:22:50pm

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We need a sane center right party, but definitely not the fascist party that currently exists. I just don’t know how we get one from where we are now.

Shouldn’t creating a sane center right party be the job of people like the Lincoln Project?

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:24:53pm

re: #153 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Shouldn’t creating a sane center right party be the job of people like the Lincoln Project?

Dunno, but… the Trump GOP is so far to the right, that the LP ppl actually also are far-right, just not fascists.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:25:00pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:25:05pm

re: #140 Nyet

That’s my idea too.

It wouldn’t surprise me if that happens if enough never-Trumpers like Steve Schmidt join the party. I doubt the center would hold.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:25:32pm

re: #154 Nyet

Dunno, but… the Trump GOP is so far to the right, that the LP ppl actually also are far-right, just not fascists.

Good point!!

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:25:39pm

Sane center-right party = Dems.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:25:45pm

re: #153 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Shouldn’t creating a sane center right party be the job of people like the Lincoln Project?

They represent a tiny minority of Republicans, who overwhelmingly support Trump. The problem is that there is a massive right-wing propaganda machine actively promoting fascism.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:26:47pm

re: #21 jaunte

Why is Rush still breathing? He has been instrumental in contributing to the toxic media atmosphere that poisoned so many minds. He has never displayed regret or repentance for any of his statements.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:27:11pm

I mean, look at all the Lincoln-adjacent folks. I mean, Bill Kristol. Come on.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:27:16pm

re: #158 Nyet

Sane center-right party = Dems.

74 million American voters think they are Marxists, which is insane, but there we are.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:27:47pm

Trump applied an ax to the Overton window.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:27:52pm

re: #153 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Shouldn’t creating a sane center right party be the job of people like the Lincoln Project?

They’re not center right. They just don’t like trump et al. They made up of fiscal purists (meaning don’t spend on Americans), bomb bomb bomb Iran and other middle Eastern countries (PNAC), etc. They’re all extremists I’m their own ways for their own personal causes.

Democrats have the center right, yellow and blue dogs. There is no need for REPUBLICANS, or any right wing party. Those parties all need to die.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:28:10pm

re: #136 The Pie Overlord!

Two-party system doesn’t mean we have to include the GOP.

The Democrats can split into the Democratic Socialists (Bernie, etc.) and the, uh, Democrats (Joe Biden, etc.)

Or the Never Trumpers can revive Teddy Roosevelt’s Progressive Party…re: #139 Semper Fi

Last night, as I lay waiting for sleep a bit before midnight, I thought this is the strangest New Years Eve I have ever experienced. Not a sound, I never heard even one shot, nor cracker, nothing. Compared to all other NYE’s it gave me pause for thought. Are people finally changing? No more shooting in the air and scaring animals. How nice but it was not normal.
I was happy to hear about Joe’s normal experience in Koreatown as mine was too different, even ominous.

It wasn’t normal. First time since 1988 since the police actually showed up to shut the shit down!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:29:00pm

re: #163 Nyet

Trump applied an ax to the Overton window.

And Fox News and Rush Limbaugh gave the axe to him.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:29:14pm

re: #153 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Shouldn’t creating a sane center right party be the job of people like the Lincoln Project?

All Most of them except Michael Steele decided to join the democratic party because it was the only one interested in actual democracy.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:29:36pm

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:29:38pm

re: #146 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Ugh, maybe Joe can just stay in Delaware for a couple of weeks.

Coronavirus won’t last more than five days on surfaces, most surfaces it lasts much less time. (Traces can be found later, but nothing to make one ill.) So the precautions that need to be taken don’t include weeks of quarantine. Washing the place (with soap, not disinfectant) does the job.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:30:21pm

re: #159 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They represent a tiny minority of Republicans, who overwhelmingly support Trump. The problem is that there is a massive right-wing propaganda machine actively promoting fascism.

True that. It will be interesting to see what happens once Trump is evicted from the WH. Will he be a martyr to the MAGAts or a failed leader? The Q-Nuts seem to turn on people pretty quickly, and it seems Qnon has taken on a life of it’s own. I’m just not sure how deep support for Trump runs.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:30:25pm

re: #139 Semper Fi

Last night, as I lay waiting for sleep a bit before midnight, I thought this is the strangest New Years Eve I have ever experienced. Not a sound, I never heard even one shot, nor cracker, nothing. Compared to all other NYE’s it gave me pause for thought. Are people finally changing? No more shooting in the air and scaring animals. How nice but it was not normal.
I was happy to hear about Joe’s normal experience in Koreatown as mine was too different, even ominous.

It was real quiet here right up until the strike of midnight, then hell broke loose and went on for about 30 minutes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:30:26pm

Keep dreaming, asshole.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:31:00pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

What? You absolutely have a place! What did I miss?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:31:50pm

re: #170 Dr. Teddy’s Person

True that. It will be interesting to see what happens once Trump is evicted from the WH. Will he be a martyr to the MAGAts or a failed leader? The Q-Nuts seem to turn on people pretty quickly, and it seems Qnon has taken on a life of it’s own. I’m just not sure how deep support for Trump runs.

Very deep. It’s a personality cult, and Trump is not going to go away quietly.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:34:36pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

???!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:35:22pm

re: #164 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’re not center right. They just don’t like trump et al. They made up of fiscal purists (meaning don’t spend on Americans), bomb bomb bomb Iran and other middle Eastern countries (PNAC), etc. They’re all extremists I’m their own ways for their own personal causes.

Democrats have the center right, yellow and blue dogs. There is no need for REPUBLICANS, or any right wing party. Those parties all need to die.

Me, 8-12-2010

My involvement with conservative politics dates back to 1964, when I was a teenage volunteer for the Goldwater campaign. A few years later, my yellow-dog Democrat parents took me along when my mom was a delegate to the 1968 Democratic convention. They hoped I would witness the process in all its populist glory and be converted from my wayward Republican ways. What I witnessed instead was the Chicago convention riots and the establishment muscling Hubert Humphrey into the nomination. This confirmed to me that I had been on the right track. My parents were deeply disillusioned themselves.

A lot of water flowed under the bridge in the meantime, but I stayed with the conservative cause until fairly recently. In retrospect, I had been growing uncomfortable with what passed for conservatism for many years. I opposed the Clinton impeachment, for example, regarding it as a facetious witch-hunt.

With the benefit of hindsight, it seems that the rot really started in 1980, when the Reagan campaign made a conscious effort to recruit the nascent religious right as a GOP voting bloc. This involved the kind of compromise that everyone condemns but that all politicians practice. As with so many things that turn out badly, it seemed like a good idea at the time. It would scarcely have seemed possible that a bunch of Bible beating nuts could actually take over the party of Teddy Roosevelt, Nelson Rockefeller, and Barry Goldwater. They could help at the polls, though, and with grassroots activism (a traditional weakness of the GOP) so compromise we did.

Our creation has devoured us now, and Republican conservatism as I knew it has not so much changed as ceased to exist. This process has accelerated with astonishing speed since the 2008 election, with the nuts now fully in charge and the adults either marginalized or driven completely out of the party.

I persisted as long as I did because I thought the nuts would fall flat on their faces and the rest of us could re-build the movement along rational lines. That is impossible now, we are past the point of no return.

The other day, when Robert Gibbs denounced the “professional left,” I suggested that Obama might be trying to construct and define a new right wing to replace the one that has gone over the cliff. I wasn’t joking at all.
Obama is pretty much center-right by global standards anyway. Perhaps we are just catching up with the rest of the world in defining the terms. The self-declared conservatives who attack him are off the scale entirely, a xenophobic mob of quacks and charlatans who have no awareness of, or concern about, what goes on in the rest of the world. (emphasis added)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:35:25pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

Wait, what?

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:35:56pm

re: #158 Nyet

Sane center-right party = Dems.

Nope. Maybe sane, but not center-right.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:37:16pm

re: #178 Belafon

Nope. Maybe sane, but not center-right.

Which one then?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:40:31pm

I can see a situation similar to the 1840s and the first half of the 1850s where some minor parties emerge (Liberty Party, Know Nothing Party, Free Soil Party) for a while then things get realigned back to two parties.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:40:31pm

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

Why is Rush still breathing? He has been instrumental in contributing to the toxic media atmosphere that poisoned so many minds. He has never displayed regret or repentance for any of his statements.

His death is going to be one of the highlights of 2021.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:40:43pm

re: #177 The Pie Overlord!

Wait, what?

Crap. PP has signed out. Can’t view past comments. I’m sad about this.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:40:47pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

Oh yes you do. What happened? Crap.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:41:30pm
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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:42:27pm

re: #182 stpaulbear

Crap. PP has signed out. Can’t view past comments. I’m sad about this.

I can view PP’s past comments.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:42:36pm

re: #182 stpaulbear

Crap. PP has signed out. Can’t view past comments. I’m sad about this.

I don’t see anything in her past comments (or other people’s) that would provoke her into leaving.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:44:27pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

Wait, what? I must have missed something. You definitely have a place here!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:44:34pm

It’s snowing silver dollar sized snowflakes. I’ve never seen snowflakes this big before.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:44:43pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

???????????????

What’s this all about????????

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BigPapa  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:45:11pm

re: #186 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I don’t see anything in her past comments (or other people’s) that would provoke her into leaving.

I don’t see anything either. Maybe a misunderstanding or she’s having a rough day. I’m not connected to her ouside LGF.

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:45:32pm

re: #186 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I don’t see anything in her past comments (or other people’s) that would provoke her into leaving.

Yeah: except for the “correction” about Blair House, there doesn’t seem to be anything offensive (or even confrontational) in the threads. ??

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:45:34pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

Wait, what?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:45:44pm

re: #188 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s snowing silver dollar sized snowflakes. I’ve never seen snowflakes this big before.

It was snowing pretty hard here too.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:45:45pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I’ll save a place for you.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:46:48pm

I do not know why people here keep buying the idea that Democrats are a center-right party. Is it because Republicans have gone so far right that there’s no good reference to compare to?

Democrats to the left

nytimes.com

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:47:21pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:47:27pm

re: #188 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s snowing silver dollar sized snowflakes. I’ve never seen snowflakes this big before.

If those are the 40% silver Eisenhower dollars of the early 1970’s, collect them!

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:48:18pm

re: #185 Dr. Teddy’s Person

I was trying to see them via the ‘show user’ list and didn’t see her name. Is there somewhere else to see other’s comments?

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Jay C  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:49:03pm

re: #198 stpaulbear

I was trying to see them via the ‘show user’ list and didn’t see her name. Is there somewhere else to see other’s comments?

Click on the icon on a posted comment

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:49:04pm

re: #186 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I don’t see anything in her past comments (or other people’s) that would provoke her into leaving.

I hope it wasn’t my pointing out that Pompeo had befouled Blair House—I was only pointing out how far the rot has spread. PP, if you’re reading, I was definitely not saying anything about you (besides—you’re my Downton Abbey/Pride and Prejudice pal)

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:49:09pm

re: #198 stpaulbear

I was trying to see them via the ‘show user’ list and didn’t see her name. Is there somewhere else to see other’s comments?

If you go to a comment in this thread and click on their avatar you’ll get user info that includes a button for recent comments.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:49:25pm

re: #195 Belafon

I do not know why people here keep buying the idea that Democrats are a center-right party. Is it because Republicans have gone so far right that there’s no good reference to compare to?

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OK, that’s convincing. I take it back.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:50:14pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:50:44pm

New Year’s Day always seems so fresh, so unspoiled.

It’s not been abused and tattered.

Yet.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:51:16pm

re: #199 Jay C

re: #201 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Thanks.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:53:05pm

re: #204 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

New Year’s Day always seems so fresh, so unspoiled.

It’s not been abused and tattered.

Yet.

It still feels like we’re in the basement waiting for the last of the storm to pass.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:53:46pm

PP is nominally a Republican, so she might have reacted to the discussion here, tho e. g. she updinged my initial comment.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:53:53pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:54:00pm

re: #202 Nyet

OK, that’s convincing. I take it back.

I mean, positions on a political spectrum are a complicated thing, but even just the votes to get money to Americans during the pandemic should show they’re not a center right party.

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:55:24pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

Say WHAT? Of course you have a place here!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:56:34pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:57:03pm

re: #127 Dr. Teddy’s Person

And make sure any military bases named after Confederate traitors stay named after Confederate traitors.

and let’s not forget the anti-corruption section that bans shell companies. Others have claimed that is the real motivation for his ban — something that has real world financial implications.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:57:19pm

re: #209 Belafon

I mean, positions on a political spectrum are a complicated thing, but even just the votes to get money to Americans during the pandemic shoukd show they’re not a center right party.

I disagree that that one position would be sufficiently determinative in the matter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 12:59:31pm

re: #180 Dr. Teddy’s Person

I can see a situation similar to the 1840s and the first half of the 1850s where some minor parties emerge (Liberty Party, Know Nothing Party, Free Soil Party) for a while then things get realigned back to two parties.

I don’t. There aren’t enough anti-fascists on the right to make a serious challenge to the GOP, which has the allegiance of over a third of American voters.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:00:07pm

It goes without saying that nothing we say here about “Republicans” as a whole applies to those nominally registered as such but not sharing the GOP’s values.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:01:56pm

re: #195 Belafon

I do not know why people here keep buying the idea that Democrats are a center-right party. Is it because Republicans have gone so far right that there’s no good reference to compare to?

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nytimes.com

By world standards, the Democrats are center-right. In a sane country, Obama would’ve been a Republican President.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:03:02pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

I can see I have no place here. Good Bye. And a very Happy New Year to everyone.

Please don’t leave us!! We all have different perspectives on issues and don’t agree on everything. And sometimes people post comments that can (usually) inadvertently be very cutting. But that doesn’t mean that everyone shares that view. Hope you return soon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:03:29pm

re: #215 Nyet

It goes without saying that nothing we say here about “Republicans” as a whole applies to those nominally registered as such but not sharing the GOP’s values.

This. I have a lot of center-right views myself.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:05:23pm

re: #215 Nyet

It goes without saying that nothing we say here about “Republicans” as a whole applies to those nominally registered as such but not sharing the GOP’s values.

Who are rare, as Trump got nearly 47% of the vote.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:05:29pm

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

Please don’t leave us!! We all have different perspectives on issues and don’t agree on everything. And sometimes people post comments that can (usually) inadvertently be very cutting. But that doesn’t mean that everyone shares that view. Hope you return soon.

I sign on to this statement and will add that tone is very difficult in electronic communications.

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:05:53pm

Hey now, all are welcome here. We’re accepting of all…except people who like pineapple on pizza. Ya’ll need Jesus!

//

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:06:06pm

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:06:07pm

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

This. I have a lot of center-right views myself.

And as far as I’ve seen, we’ve never judged anyone for that. Hell, how many years did we put up with Dark_Falcon and the like?

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:06:29pm

re: #221 Targetpractice

Hey now, all are welcome here. We’re accepting of all…except people who like pineapple on pizza. Ya’ll need Jesus!

//

OK, I’m out then.

///

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:07:05pm

re: #216 NO SMOCKING GUN!

By world standards, the Democrats are center-right. In a sane country, Obama would’ve been a Republican President.

Which is not what the graph shows. It would be a center-right party defined by people who believe they are center-left.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:07:25pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

No need to apologize. Relieved to know you can’t quit us!!!!

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:07:25pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

{{{PP}}}

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:07:34pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

{{{PhillyPretzel}}}

Don’t DO that to us. 2021 is not going to start like that.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:25pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

Apology accepted! Hadn’t seen a flounce like that in years!

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:30pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

WHEW! I would miss you here.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:39pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

Whew, that’s a relief. Don’t scare me like that!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:43pm

re: #228 thedopefishlives

Well I was the one who thought I could chat in two rooms at the same time. And that person was not who I thought they were.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:52pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

Oh thank goodness!! I was so afraid I said something to hurt your feelings.

We all ❤️❤️❤️ you!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:53pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

So you did what I have done too many times when having multiple text sessions going - sent a message to person A when it was really directed to person B!!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:08:57pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

Hey, welcome back!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:09:30pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

Whew, that’s a relief. Don’t scare me like that!

This. I was really wondering what the hell was going on.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:09:48pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Well I was the one who thought I could chat in two rooms at the same time. And that person was not who I thought they were.

I think we’ve all done something similar.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:00pm

Like, at work, when we use Teams, ppl will often post their passwords by mistake LOL.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:02pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

So glad to see you back.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:17pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Well I was the one who thought I could chat in two rooms at the same time. And that person was not who I thought they were.

That is how it goes these days, huh?

I’m sorry that happened to you.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:18pm

re: #238 Nyet

Like, at work, when we use Teams, ppl will often post their passwords by mistake LOL.

I’ve done that too. Ugh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:19pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

Glad you are back!!!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:10:44pm

re: #221 Targetpractice

Hey now, all are welcome here. We’re accepting of all…except people who like pineapple on pizza. Ya’ll need Jesus!

//

How bout avocados?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:11:24pm

re: #243 jaunte

How bout avocados?

On pizza or just generally??

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:12:02pm

re: #243 jaunte

I do remember seeing someone making a all veggie pizza. I am sure there is an all fruit version out there too.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:12:22pm

re: #244 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Pizza or toast.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:12:35pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

I do remember seeing someone making a all veggie pizza. I am sure there is an all fruit version out there too.

BEGONE DEBIL!!!11

////

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:13:39pm

re: #243 jaunte

How bout avocados?

The only thing I’ll even eat avocado in is sushi. I am not an avocado guy. Mrs. Fish, on the other hand, can’t get enough of the things.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:13:46pm

re: #247 Nyet

Far from it Sergey.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:14:14pm

re: #225 Belafon

Which is not what the graph shows. It would be a center-right party defined by people who believe they are center-left.

Obama’s signature legislation was Mitt Romney’s healthcare plan, he deported lots of undocumented immigrants, opposed same-sex marriage until it was popular, and aggressively killed jihadists overseas, so IMHO, Obama would’ve been a comfortable fit in a Colin Powellesque GOP. Obviously not in the fascist party that currently calls itself Republican.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:15:11pm

Does quattro formaggi count as an all-veggie pizza? //

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Targetpractice  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:15:49pm

re: #243 jaunte

How bout avocados?

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:15:55pm

re: #243 jaunte

How bout avocados?

I can’t convince myself to like avacados.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:16:03pm

Seriously considering taking the 20th off work so I can celebrate the fuck out of Trump being gone.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:16:03pm

re: #251 Nyet

That would be an all dairy pizza. It sounds good.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:17:39pm

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

To all of my fellow Lizards I am very sorry about the post that was upstream. I was in another chat room by invitation only and that chat is no longer on my list. Again I am very sorry about that post.

Whew! Glad You’re Here!!!!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:18:43pm

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

Seriously considering taking the 20th off work so I can celebrate the fuck out of Trump being gone.

I’m off the 20th anyway cause my kid is having his wisdom teeth out, though I’m now thinking I should reschedule that unless the orthodontist’s staff is fully vaccinated by then.

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BigPapa  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:19:20pm

WIfe Unit is mad at me. The Beef Wellington Experience is in full swing. The puff pastry is giving me fits: the Butter Block is has me freaked out but now it’s in the dough. But my dough is too sticky. First roll, I have an air bubble. It happens. I go to grab a knife, there’s a stack of shit on my preferred knife, I get a little angry grabby and cut myself. There is blood. While I’m at the sink letting it bleed under cold water she’s standing there staring at me. I tell her ‘Baby, I need you to put the puff back in the fridge.’

She holds The Stare.

Luckily I was able to reach over and get the parchment paper over the puff dough so she didn’t see the little blood spot on it.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:19:30pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

I do remember seeing someone making a all veggie pizza. I am sure there is an all fruit version out there too.

I can remember going to a pizza place in a medium sized town that had sauerkraut pizza, a couple different potato pizzas and a peanut butter pizza. I’m sure we went with sausage or pepperoni.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:20:42pm

re: #259 stpaulbear

I can remember going to a pizza place in a medium sized town that had sauerkraut pizza, a couple different potato pizzas and a peanut butter pizza. I’m sure we went with sausage or pepperoni.

There’s one in the next town over that has a Thai chili pizza, a pizza with blackberry jam, and a pizza with ghost pepper Jack cheese.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:21:22pm

re: #259 stpaulbear

sauerkraut pizza, a couple different potato pizzas and a peanut butter pizza

Not gonna kink-shame.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:21:29pm

re: #248 thedopefishlives

The only thing I’ll even eat avocado in is sushi. I am not an avocado guy. Mrs. Fish, on the other hand, can’t get enough of the things.

Mom loved to mash up avocados, then drain a can of tiny shrimp, add them in and put it on Waverly Wafer crackers.

Now if Mom only had the idea of putting that spread on toast she could have made millions…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:23:44pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:26:07pm

Brad Raffensperger is too good for the GOP.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:26:17pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

A Windows based computer would be even slower. That is how my Dell was.

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BigPapa  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:26:54pm

re: #261 Nyet

Not gonna kink-shame.

At first I was like saurkraut? Uh, no, but then I was like ‘kim chee on pizza?’ and now I’m open to having a discussion on this. For pizza science, yo.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:27:09pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

Memories of the original 128K Macintosh…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:27:58pm

re: #267 🌹UOJB!

Memories of the original 128K Macintosh…

640kb should be enough for anybody.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:28:02pm

re: #264 thedopefishlives

Brad has the “old GOP” mentality - vote suppression and whatnot. That he didn’t go along with treasonweasels shouldn’t be a compliment, all a matter of perspective ofc…

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:28:14pm
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:28:32pm
272
Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:28:41pm

re: #266 BigPapa

At first I was like saurkraut? Uh, no, but then I was like ‘kim chee on pizza?’ and now I’m open to having a discussion on this. For pizza science, yo.

I don’t like SK as such. But kimchi… I can see it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:30:53pm

Trump is furious at Republicans and I am here for it.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:31:48pm

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey, he’s half-right. That’s progress.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:31:49pm

re: #269 Nyet

Brad has the “old GOP” mentality - vote suppression and whatnot. That he didn’t go along with treasonweasels shouldn’t be a compliment, all a matter of perspective ofc…

Not being a full blown fascist is now all we can hope for from Republicans, and very few of them at that.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:31:55pm

re: #266 BigPapa

At first I was like saurkraut? Uh, no, but then I was like ‘kim chee on pizza?’ and now I’m open to having a discussion on this. For pizza science, yo.

We were going to steal a menu just because it was so weird, but we had already had a different restaurant call the cops on us for stealing a napkin holder. It was in my bar-band days (mid-70’s) and the cop made us take our equipment out of the truck to search for the fucking napkin holder, which we had actually placed on another table in the restaurant so we could have room for all of our food.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:31:58pm

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is furious at Republicans and I am here for it.

[Embedded content]

BWA HAHAHAHA!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:32:26pm

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:32:35pm

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

Unlimited power? It’s still weird that the President is insane, and people still go along with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:32:59pm

re: #223 thedopefishlives

And as far as I’ve seen, we’ve never judged anyone for that. Hell, how many years did we put up with Dark_Falcon and the like?

I am so far to the left/sane of DF’s idea of Republican that he insisted I was a Democrat.

fer reals.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:33:18pm

re: #264 thedopefishlives

More on Captain Jerkoff!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:33:45pm

re: #271 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I did not even know this was in there. No wonder Trump vetoed it. I’m amazed the Senate passed it in the first place.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:34:19pm

re: #281 🌹UOJB!

More on Captain Jerkoff!

[Embedded content]

Oh my God, HE’S the CueCat man?! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:34:29pm

Time for a new runabout!

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:34:41pm

I only know 2 folks named Hutton and both are/were loony freaks. Coincidence?

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:34:57pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

Oh man, you’re never gonna work another day in your life. ////

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:35:02pm

re: #282 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I did not even know this was in there. No wonder Trump vetoed it. I’m amazed the Senate passed it in the first place.

5000+ pages…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:35:06pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

How’s it feel, being among the rich elite?

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:35:38pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

Now that you’re sitting pretty, do we have to worry about you shutting down LGF? /

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:37:26pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

Don’t spend it all in one place.
/

291
BigPapa  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:37:34pm

re: #289 Nyet

Now that you’re sitting pretty, do we have to worry about you shutting down LGF? /

JUST SHUT UP. SHUT IT. DON’T SAY THAT SHIT.

292
Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:38:17pm

re: #108 🌹UOJB!

Joe should seize the Trump DC Hotel under eminent domain and use it for Executive Offices until the entire White House, Air Force One, Executive Office Building, limousines, Marine 1 and all other Presidential areas are totally sterilized!

Definitely. This is a health and safety issue. The White House has become super spreader central under Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:38:20pm

re: #287 Nyet

5000+ pages…

I think that was the Covid/budget bill, though I’m sure the defense bill was hefty as well. Kudos to whoever got that ban on shell companies in the bill, if it is what the tweet says it is.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:38:50pm

re: #291 BigPapa

JUST SHUT UP. SHUT IT. DON’T SAY THAT SHIT.

BUT THAT WAS A CLOSE SHAVE WASN’T IT

295
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:39:30pm

There is a hospital system in Texas that is currently paying respiratory therapists almost $100 / hour.

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:39:58pm

re: #293 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I think that was the Covid/budget bill, though I’m sure the defense bill was hefty as well. Kudos to whoever got that ban on shell companies in the bill, if it is what the tweet says it is.

IIRC, Elizabeth Warren was involved.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:40:23pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am so far to the left/sane of DF’s idea of Republican that he insisted I was a Democrat.

fer reals.

I sometimes just signed out if he showed up. He always had an agenda that he wanted to get around to, or else just talk military porn. I know I really blasted him a couple times over GLBT issues.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:40:35pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:42:03pm

re: #223 thedopefishlives

And as far as I’ve seen, we’ve never judged anyone for that. Hell, how many years did we put up with Dark_Falcon and the like?

I put my foot down on him when he shot off his mouth about my son and he NEVER apologized for that…

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prairiefire  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:42:20pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Happy New Year, everyone. It can’t be much worse than 2020, a savage bitch of a year if there ever was one.

The worst our generations have known!

Happy New Year!

Condolences to Michelle, Joe Bacon and all lizards who have had the trial of loss this year.

301
thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:43:01pm

re: #299 🌹UOJB!

I put my foot down on him when he shot off his mouth about my son and he NEVER apologized for that…

True, and that’s fair. Politically we didn’t mind, as long as he was debating in good faith. He could be a little bit of an ass at times, though; I remember telling him to cool his jets a few times.

302
Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:43:21pm

Good to know Mike’s got the goods.

303
PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:44:44pm

re: #302 Dr. Teddy’s Person

What brand of airplane glue is he sniffing? Remind me to not to buy it.

304
🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:44:52pm

Just as Criswell Bacon Predicted

Here he goes…and does he tweet about the $2K?

HOT DAMN!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:45:45pm

re: #296 Dr. Teddy’s Person

IIRC, Elizabeth Warren was involved.

I thought I saw her on the list of Senators who voted against overriding Trump’s veto?

306
stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:45:49pm

re: #284 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Time for a new runabout!

…or a pair of 2’ long audio connect cables.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:47:47pm

Shall we start a pool to guess when Tangsnorter pardons ASSange?

308
PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:48:19pm

re: #306 stpaulbear

And I just bought a copper cuff for $30. It took its sweet time in getting to Philly (the USPS was holding it from Dec 3rd).

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:50:18pm

re: #305 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I thought I saw her on the list of Senators who voted against overriding Trump’s veto?

She did vote nay. Perhaps one of those principled votes when she knew the veto would be overridden.

MY PLAN TO FIGHT GLOBAL FINANCIAL CORRUPTION

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:52:39pm

re: #307 🌹UOJB!

Shall we start a pool to guess when Tangsnorter pardons ASSange?

I would take a date after the 6th. Once the shitshow on Wednesday fails, Trump will have to flex his pardon power to sooth his fragile ego.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:57:49pm

Cue the spaceman with a gun meme.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:58:22pm

re: #311 Nyet

Cue the spaceman with a gun meme.

[Embedded content]

What… the fuck…

[Head asplodes.]

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Dr. Teddy's Person  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:58:48pm

I’ve got a half a dozen little birds feasting on my balcony. One of them wanted to come inside but bounced off the glass door.

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:58:52pm
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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 1:59:06pm

Lin is our agent.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:00:15pm

re: #314 Nyet

[Embedded content]

Robert Langdon this guy is not.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:00:23pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

Hey now, I got my $600. I’m on Easy Street.

Holy shit, me, too.

After fucking me over for the $1200 last time I’m shocked. Thankful, but shocked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:01:11pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:02:07pm

re: #311 Nyet

I sure would like to know why chickenshit @jack gives Asshole L Lin Wood a pass and none of his threats are tagged?

320
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:02:30pm

re: #311 Nyet

Cue the spaceman with a gun meme.

[Embedded content]

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:02:49pm

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

I sure would like to know why chickenshit @jack gives Asshole L Lin Wood a pass and none of his threats are tagged?

because twitter

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Nyet  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:03:06pm

re: #320 Eclectic Cyborg

THANK YOU

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:03:28pm

re: #219 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Who are rare, as Trump got nearly 47% of the vote.

74 million is about 22% of the population (not all are eligible to vote, of course). It’s also about the number of registered Republicans, last time I checked

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:05:40pm

re: #305 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I thought I saw her on the list of Senators who voted against overriding Trump’s veto?

She voted against original passage too — so totally consistent.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:09:57pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

We’ll never need more than 640K!

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Semper Fi  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:54:04pm

re: #308 PhillyPretzel

And I just bought a copper cuff for $30. It took its sweet time in getting to Philly (the USPS was holding it from Dec 3rd).

AH! The USPS. Many of us have had unpleasant thoughts about them this holiday season, I’m sure.

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Ferdinand  Jan 1, 2021 • 2:59:10pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Downloaded a 120 Gb game on Xbox for my wife and I (Ark, a survival game on a dinosaur island) this weekend. Had a real tech time warp moment!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2021 • 3:20:02pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Well I was the one who thought I could chat in two rooms at the same time. And that person was not who I thought they were.

I figured you were nominally Republican and abominably hung-over.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2021 • 5:35:11pm

re: #132 Nyet

I remember some Lizards arguing that the US still needed the GOP, because two-party system after all.

And? Do you still think so?

Nope, not This Party.

Now, if someone wants to bring back Whig-like organization, go for it.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2021 • 8:09:09pm

re: #183 A Mom Anon

Oh yes you do. What happened? Crap.

It seems PhillyPretzel was a hard Lincoln Project type guy.

Lots of people have been talking about shades of R’s, and then stating that the LP people are just fascists without fitted sheets, or words to that affect.

It’s cruel to broad brush classical Conservatives like that, isn’t it? So he decided to leave, and we are the worse for it.

Sigh.

I get the feeling that a lot of people here are going to be terribly disappointed with Joe Biden, who is going to govern from the center so he can keep a Congressional majority in two years.


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