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Right wing trolls were very excited last night on Twitter; violence always gets them lathered up and raving, especially when a black person is identified as the suspect. (And by the way, I suspect someone on the police force leaked this info to right wing propagandists like Jack Posobiec last night.)

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Acemarilllion  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:03:41am

Fuck Donald Trump.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:07:11am

re: #1 Acemarilllion

Fuck Donald Trump.

Quoting for emphasis.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:08:07am
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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:08:50am

re: #2 darthstar

Wait, you mean we don’t need some stupid code phrase to curse out someone?

Damn.. that feels good. Fuck Trump. Fuck all those who enable him and cover up his crimes. Fuck the feckless media who both sides everything about Trumpworld and the GOP when there’s no both siding any of this.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:09:40am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Funny response:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:09:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:12:38am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Wait wait wait.

Now they are BOTH COMING BACK??

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:13:16am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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The dead are quite stubborn.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:14:20am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

If they weren’t misogynist, Jackie O would be coming back too.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:18:00am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait wait wait.

Now they are BOTH COMING BACK??

Jim Jarmush redux: The Dead Are Still Dead.

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:18:09am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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trump supporters partying at the spot JFK’s brains got blown out on the anniversary of when it happened.

classy

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:19:17am

re: #11 b.d. (The war is over)

trump supporters partying at the spot JFK’s brains got blown out on the anniversary of when it happened.

classy

Well he was a Dem so he stole the election, of course.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:20:22am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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I have a Cessna 182 fueled and ready just a few minutes away. I could kick the door open, spray the fire extinguisher toward the nutters, and scatter some hastily printed leaflets informing them that they had just been Covid vaxxed. It would be a great joke. Unfortunately, the FAA would not be amused so I will have to restrain the impulse and save the plan for some other time.

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Jay C  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:21:20am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait wait wait.

Now they are BOTH COMING BACK??

Well, if Former President Kennedy is accompanying his son, he would 104 years old now: so not surprising that he’d be moving a bit slowly…

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:22:09am

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Well he was a Dem so he stole the election, of course.

Some things never change….
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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:23:47am

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:26:19am

Sigh.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:27:23am

Peeve needs to go to a bookstore and dip into Liberal Fascism.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:27:46am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Airborne manure spreader would be perfect.
Or cattle slurry.
Like the planes that drop water and fire retardant on fires, except it’s fresh slurry.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:27:59am

And then try to define the difference.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:30:04am

I don’t believe that the reason they resigned is tucker. I know it’s the stated reason, but I’m not buying it. They were on their way out and this was a way to make a statement. tucker has been as ass for years. Why now?

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:31:21am

re: #21 I Would Prefer Not To

CYA

Cover Your Ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:32:18am

re: #18 jaunte

Peeve needs to go to a bookstore and dip into Liberal Fascism.

I made the mistake of checking it out of a Library once. Read about 8 pages. Took it back the next day.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:32:37am

re: #21 I Would Prefer Not To

There’s pretty much a straight line from Goldberg and Hayes (and NRO generally) to Carlson’s white nationalist claptrap hour at Fox. Those two can’t clutch their pearls now when they had a helping hand in getting us to this very point.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:34:13am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I have a Cessna 182 fueled and ready just a few minutes away. I could kick the door open, spray the fire extinguisher toward the nutters, and scatter some hastily printed leaflets informing them that they had just been Covid vaxxed. It would be a great joke. Unfortunately, the FAA would not be amused so I will have to restrain the impulse and save the plan for some other time.

A largish drone might do the trick… ;)

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:34:20am

re: #24 lawhawk

And thus my uncertainty of the Never Trump wing of the GOP.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:34:54am

re: #25 William Lewis

A largish drone might do the trick… ;)

A drone large enough to execute such a plan would also get you in trouble with the FAA, unfortunately.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:37:01am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:37:42am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:41:39am

re: #19 nines09

Airborne manure spreader would be perfect.

That’s it! I don’t have a spreader that will fit in the plane but there are plenty of buckets and no shortage of manure.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:45:44am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

They know the Rittenhouse interview tonight is going to be a career ending shit show for anyone not named Tucker Carlson. They’re just trying to save their asses.

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:47:55am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I have a Cessna 182 fueled and ready just a few minutes away. I could kick the door open, spray the fire extinguisher toward the nutters, and scatter some hastily printed leaflets informing them that they had just been Covid vaxxed. It would be a great joke. Unfortunately, the FAA would not be amused so I will have to restrain the impulse and save the plan for some other time.

as long as you take reasonable precautions to avoid injury or damage to persons or property //

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:48:00am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

That’s it! I don’t have a spreader that will fit in the plane but there are plenty of buckets and no shortage of manure.

A C-27 could strafe them with a load of ivermectin…that’ll protect them.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:49:01am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

There’s a dairy farm not far from here on a winding two lane. It sits in what they call a “kettle” around here, a small valley like a cook kettle. They have a large slurry tank.
In the summer if there is an air inversion or high humidity for a number of days and no breezes, it is unbelievable to me the farm owner can actually live there. Makes your eyes water and almost burns your nostrils.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:49:43am
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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:49:45am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

That’s it! I don’t have a spreader that will fit in the plane but there are plenty of buckets and no shortage of manure.

Bert Reynolds claimed that he once dropped a load of horse manure from his helicopter on the National Enquirer building after articles about Loni Anderson and he were published.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:51:20am

Looks like the QAnon Shaman is going to try to ride the Rittenhouse train out of jail, only this is likely to backfire spectacularly:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:51:32am

The traditional “where were you?” story for this day. This is less common now, especially from people who already had some inkling of politics and history at the time.

I was 14 at the time and already developing an interest in the news and politics. Unlike most people my age, I did not find out at school. I was at home after a trip to the dentist. My mom was watching one of those godawful soap operas with the oppressive organ music. I ignored it until a news bulletin came on. It didn’t seem so bad at first, JFK had been wounded during a trip to Dallas. I thought it probably wouldn’t be serious, and he would be up joking about it in a couple of days.
I kept watching. The bulletins became more frequent and more alarming, then the network (CBS) went to solid coverage.
The part I remember most is Walter Cronkite making a visible effort to control himself as he made the now-famous announcement that President Kennedy had died. Walter was obviously aware that his every word, grimace, and breath would be of historic significance for centuries to come.

JFK assassination: Cronkite informs a shocked nation

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:51:35am

Sigh…

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:53:13am

re: #39 William Lewis

That’s a bloody tragedy, is what that is. I’m sorry to see it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:53:37am

re: #32 Dangerman

as long as you take reasonable precautions to avoid injury or damage to persons or property //

Well, dousing Q-balls with bullshit could hardly be construed as a crime, or even unusual.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:54:10am
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:54:50am

re: #39 William Lewis

Let me guess.
No insurance?

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 11:59:02am

re: #43 nines09

Let me guess.
No insurance?

Of course not. The really rare bits - the ram & cpu - are certainly salvageable. If I can get a different Sun, perhaps the IPX lunch box sized machine, I can put them to work still, so it’s not quite as total a loss as it could be. But really…

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:00:08pm

clan’s coming to visit

bro and his in-country fam from philly will be staying at dangermom’s
Sis coming down from NC will stay with us (4 years ago she lived with us for 2 years)

thursday niece by zoom from outside tel aviv

i’ve got a huge pot of unstuffed cabbage on the stove for tonight (the first night’s) dinner.

way easier than stuffing cabbage leaves

recipe, for those interested

it’s all ad hoc

2-3 onions, slice or dice
2# ground beef, turkey or chicken
2 peeled apples, diced
28 oz can crushed tomatoes
3# green cabbage, shredded
1 tbsp salt
1 tsp pepper
⅓ c lemon juice
¼ c brown sugar
¼ c honey
¼ - ½ c raisins
separately cooked rice
Directions:

In a large pot stock pot on just over medium heat, brown onions in all the meat till meat is not pink - maybe 15 minutes or so
Stir in tomatoes, salt and pepper
Reduce heat to just under medium and simmer 20 minutes
After 20 minutes, add apples, cabbage, lemon juice, sugar, honey and raisins.
Reduce heat to just above low and cook until cabbage is soft - about 1 ½ - 2+ hours

Best to serve over rice or egg noodles.
Don’t add rice to the pot. It’ll suck up all the juice

A salad seems like over kill
Maybe a cucumber / carrot concoction

With the rice, potatoes aren’t necessary either.
We do dip a good rye bread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:00:25pm
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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:02:19pm

re: #37 Dopamine Fish

Looks like the QAnon Shaman is going to try to ride the Rittenhouse train out of jail, only this is likely to backfire spectacularly:

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He can wait out the appeal in prison. There are over 500 other people who need their first trial still.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:03:20pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:05:03pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

People are suffering… mild aches, pains, chills, and other incredibly inconvenient things. This is obviously a grave threat to our country and must be halted at all costs. In this country, if you’re going to suffer something, you need to SUFFER.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:06:04pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alaska has large amounts of Kettles from the glaciers.
So maybe he was familiar with a………………….Stone……………………….Kettle.
Maybe not.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:06:56pm

re: #26 nines09

And thus my uncertainty of the Never Trump wing of the GOP.

They aren’t heroes, and they played a big role in making the GOP so corrupt and hollow that a fascist conman like Trump could coopt it with ease. However, I’ll accept whatever help people opposed to a fascist takeover of America can give.

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steve_davis  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:07:14pm

MJ is Marisela Juarez—a legendary custom pickup craftsperson. Really tickled that the set will be going into the Epiphone.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:08:42pm

re: #44 William Lewis

Was it 3 point shots from the shippers, or did he pack it in tissue?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:09:23pm

re: #51 No Malarkey!

They aren’t heroes, and they played a big role in making the GOP so corrupt and hollow that a fascist conman like Trump could coopt it with ease. However, I’ll accept whatever help people opposed to a fascist takeover of America can give.

As many of us said at the time: “The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.” Groups like the Lincoln Project were useful from the perspective of defeating Donald Trump, but make no mistake: They’re still Republicans. They still represent the same kind of repressive, regressive, inhumane policies that the rest of the GOP stand for.

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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:10:48pm

Damnit, give me one of those French fries NOW!

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:11:37pm

re: #51 No Malarkey!

They aren’t heroes, and they played a big role in making the GOP so corrupt and hollow that a fascist conman like Trump could coopt it with ease. However, I’ll accept whatever help people opposed to a fascist takeover of America can give.

They are Republicans. And they helped build the party you see today. So yes. I’ll accept the help. But no money. And I still would not trust them, because they did nothing during the runup to Trump.
They just want to save their party. To what end, I know not.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:12:08pm

re: #37 Dopamine Fish

Looks like the QAnon Shaman is going to try to ride the Rittenhouse train out of jail, only this is likely to backfire spectacularly:

There is a reason that defendants are sworn in and required to testify that they understand their rights and are entering a plea upon advise of counsel and of their own free will. Plea deals aren’t shopping expeditions in which you can express buyers remorse and withdraw it if you don’t get the sentence you want.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:14:57pm
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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:15:02pm

re: #57 No Malarkey!

There is a reason that defendants are sworn in and required to testify that they understand their rights and are entering a plea upon advise of counsel and of their own free will. Plea deals aren’t shopping expeditions in which you can express buyers remorse and withdraw it if you don’t get the sentence you want.

Fine the lawyers for wasting court time.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:16:03pm

re: #53 nines09

Was it 3 point shots from the shippers, or did he pack it in tissue?

The seller dropped it off at the shippers who put it in a box. There was a bit of bubble wrap at the connector end. Nothing else. The bottom of the box had started ripping out from the 25 pounds of steel chassis. Just disappointing.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:20:34pm

re: #54 Dopamine Fish

As many of us said at the time: “The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.” Groups like the Lincoln Project were useful from the perspective of defeating Donald Trump, but make no mistake: They’re still Republicans. They still represent the same kind of repressive, regressive, inhumane policies that the rest of the GOP stand for.

Absolutely. But when the GOP tries to steal the 2024 election and install Trump as dictator, we are going to need all the help we can get before going back to arguing policy. Its kind of like allying ourselves with the Soviet Union to defeat the Third Reich, even though the Soviets had been helping the Nazis before they were attacked in 1941.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:21:03pm

re: #61 No Malarkey!

Absolutely. But when the GOP tries to steal the 2024 election and install Trump as dictator, we are going to need all the help we can get before going back to arguing policy. Its kind of like allying ourselves with the Soviet Union to defeat the Third Reich, even though the Soviets had been helping the Nazis before they were attacked in 1941.

Precisely so.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:22:01pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

So Hayes and Goldberg just now discovered that Tucker is a dangerous propagandist? Why didn’t they quit FOX News when the insurrection happened? They know that it was Fox News hosts which helped to instigate January 6th.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:23:02pm

re: #60 William Lewis

Yes it is. It’s amazing isn’t it?
“I put bubble wrap on it!”
Yeah.
Well how ‘bout dat?
Been there. Good luck.

Phone the shipper up. Thank them for the great pack job.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:23:54pm

re: #60 William Lewis

The seller dropped it off at the shippers who put it in a box. There was a bit of bubble wrap at the connector end. Nothing else. The bottom of the box had started ripping out from the 25 pounds of steel chassis. Just disappointing.

It should’ve been packed in styrofoam, but that’s expensive and I don’t know how many shippers actually keep loose pieces of styrofoam on hand.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:24:37pm

re: #65 Dopamine Fish

They advertise as “shippers” they should have the needed supplies.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:25:00pm

re: #64 nines09

Yes it is. It’s amazing isn’t it?
“I put bubble wrap on it!”
Yeah.
Well how ‘bout dat?
Been there. Good luck.

Got a line on a barebones IPX already from someone who will ship it properly.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:25:44pm

re: #67 William Lewis

Good luck.

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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:26:54pm

The 43-year incarceration of Kevin Strickland
by Judd Legum
popular.info

Sickening. And the end is almost worse than the beginning.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:27:32pm

re: #65 Dopamine Fish

It should’ve been packed in styrofoam, but that’s expensive and I don’t know how many shippers actually keep loose pieces of styrofoam on hand.

The UPS shop in Madison, in another lifetime, had a foam injection machine and, while expensive, it was a joy shipping fragile computers via them. I shipped a DEC VAXStation 4000 internationally with no damage because of them. SMDH.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:28:12pm

re: #70 William Lewis

The UPS shop in Madison, in another lifetime, had a foam injection machine and, while expensive, it was a joy shipping fragile computers via them. I shipped a DEC VAXStation 4000 internationally with no damage because of them. SMDH.

Now that would be amazing.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:29:30pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

So Hayes and Goldberg just now discovered that Tucker is a dangerous propagandist? Why didn’t they quit FOX News when the insurrection happened? They know that it was Fox News hosts which helped to instigate January 6th.

Apparently Carlson’s propaganda documentary claiming January 6 was a false flag operation was the final straw. Maybe they finally decided they wanted to go down in history as opponents, rather than enablers, of the rise of Fascist America. If they have an angle, I don’t know what it could be; they are going to be labeled as traitors to the fascist right.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:30:50pm

re: #52 steve_davis

I meant to tell you this when I read you had bought new guitars. SAVE your boxes they came in. If and when you wish to sell them, you will need proper boxes if you ship. It will save you a lot of aggravation and money.

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:33:14pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content] I understand the desire to have elected Republicans like Winsome Sears on your TV show, but the problem is disinformation LYING is central to the GOP brand right now. Here, Dana Bash lets Sears get away with claiming that “people are suffering as a result of getting the vaccine.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:35:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:35:56pm
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:37:21pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Tons of that shit.
But I tell someone to walk off a roof and POOF!
Someone click on my Twitter button on my profile please and tell me what you see.
I can still read as they carefully review my suspension.
It comes up with no followers/following to me.

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:38:30pm

Afternoon Lizards:

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:39:04pm

re: #39 William Lewis

Sigh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:40:27pm
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:40:29pm

re: #79 The Pie Overlord!

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:42:02pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

“TGHEY WON’T LET US READ THE ACA! WHO KNOWS WHAT’S IN IT??!!~?!??!??!!!”

“Sure the infrastructure bill might help my people but, like really, who has time to read it?”

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:44:30pm

A Trumper actually faces some consequences.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:44:39pm

re: #70 William Lewis

The UPS shop in Madison, in another lifetime, had a foam injection machine and, while expensive, it was a joy shipping fragile computers via them. I shipped a DEC VAXStation 4000 internationally with no damage because of them. SMDH.

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

So nice to see a convicted felon celebrating his celebrity status…and as he has dirt on Trump he’ll be a regular on the weeknight talk shows.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:45:19pm

re: #83 No Malarkey!

A Trumper actually faces some consequences.

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One less piece of shit on the ballot. Good for Pennsylvania.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:46:15pm
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:46:26pm

re: #83 No Malarkey!

“COME ON. YEAH I HIT HER. OPEN HAND!!!!! OPEN HAND!!!!!! I STILL LOVE HER. BITCH.”

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garzooma  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:49:27pm

re: #61 No Malarkey!

Absolutely. But when the GOP tries to steal the 2024 election and install Trump as dictator, we are going to need all the help we can get before going back to arguing policy. Its kind of like allying ourselves with the Soviet Union to defeat the Third Reich, even though the Soviets had been helping the Nazis before they were attacked in 1941.

This is where I am, but I’ll add that if you want to vent about past bad actions here, let it rip. Just try to tone it down on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:49:34pm
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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:49:40pm

re: #84 darthstar

So nice to see a convicted felon celebrating his celebrity status…and as he has dirt on Trump he’ll be a regular on the weeknight talk shows.

He could’ve stayed loyal to Trump and gotten a pardon, so I’ll give him a little credit for cooperating with prosecutors and doing his time. I remember reading about him giving a bunch of interviews to prosecutors and thinking that surely something will come of this, and all that happened was that the Trump Organizations CFO was indicted.

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:50:00pm

re: #79 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:52:57pm
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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:54:39pm

re: #90 No Malarkey!

He could’ve stayed loyal to Trump and gotten a pardon, so I’ll give him a little credit for cooperating with prosecutors and doing his time. I remember reading about him giving a bunch of interviews to prosecutors and thinking that surely something will come of this, and all that happened was that the Trump Organizations CFO was indicted.

True…and I’m okay with his making the TV rounds and being a thorn in Trump’s ass…with receipts. But he’s still a POS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:56:02pm
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:57:14pm

re: #85 darthstar

A few more would make me happy. They have some absolute stooges in the legislature here. I’m well represented by Republican ass kissers, most who signed on after Jan 6th insurrection as backing Trump.
And the people around me have mostly whitewashed themselves by removing Trump posters, banners and bumper stickers. Most. Not all.
Curious thing here though. Most of them, and I am familiar with all of them, have a small American flag out. Like a marker.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:57:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:58:09pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 12:59:52pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

We don’t refer to Jonah Goldberg as the Doughy Pantload for nothing. And National Review is essentially a Nazi publication by this point.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:02:02pm

re: #96 No Malarkey!

It would be armed Patriots if they was.. uh……..ah…………..well……….ummm

Everybody Knows

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steve_davis  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:04:25pm

re: #55 A Cranky One

Damnit, give me one of those French fries NOW!

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Jean Claude van Dammmnit, give me one of those!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:07:10pm

As I said about Brooks the other day…the whole commentary class is trash and should be criticized for being fundamentally unserious, but on top of that they laid the groundwork for all the shit they’re upset about.

Goldberg in particular…it doesn’t matter if Liberal Fascism was edgy posturing to say something hurtful or genuine pseudointellectual babble, it’s a document that has defined the descent of the right into reaction and the manner in which they code their excuses for eroding democracy while crying self-defense.

It’s not that repentance or regret is impossible—it is better that they’ve recognized how far things have gone—but that this was a predictable outcome that was predicted by people that Hayes and Goldberg viewed as unworthy of hearing. We’re at this point precisely because so much time and energy was put into invalidating anyone who said there would be consequences for irresponsible rhetoric.

The cue card responses Goldberg invented always lent themselves to empty, no-you anti-intellectual posturing…documents do not matter, history does not matter, political philosophy does not matter; there is only the rhetorical game of tying the opponents of the present to the blackest black. To understand why this was stupid and would create harm to everyone—to conservatives duped into going down a hole into reaction that subtracts from their material welfare and their…soul, for lack of a better…they didn’t have to listen to liberals or leftists, but deep, compassionate thinkers like CS Lewis. It’s not just the left/right axis that’s screwing us, it’s the way that shallowness and performativity—all rhetoric, no epistemology—has destroyed meaning.

Like most “reasonable” conservatives, they have spent their lives cultivating this unreality of heightened emotions for their audience—constant fear, constant betrayal, constant reinforcement of the in-group’s axiomatic goodness and smartness—while believing themselves capable herdsmen…they can steer the rubes because they’re the clever ones, the top of the intellectual hierarchy that needs the proles to vote a certain way. But—as always happens—conservatives don’t actually understand that at some point you’ve changed the culture and the rubes will now con themselves and each other: we’re in a different stratum of grifting now, even nastier and more nihilistic.

The rubes believe they’re the only smart and moral people, a priori, and that questioning this base assumption is an attack. They were trained to think this way by decades of reinforcement and hand-holding by previous generations of assholes making short-term gains. Anti-intellectualism and anti-epistemology are now so deep that there’s no need for pundits that do conservative casuistry, that tell cunning lies. The vehement assertion—these are today’s axioms, we are entitled to dictate truth and you are not—is sufficient for the culture they germinated. That’s the core appeal of “Liberal Fascism” and its myriad brethren—an opiate substitute for actual rigor thought, a series of talking points that end genuine discussion.

There is a natural flow from self-serving assumptions required to write a book that does tu quoque with Nazism, but also necessary to start a forever war based on falsified intel, but also to viewing Donald Trump as a truth-teller.

They’re not in the reality based community; they make their own reality; people that try to declare that things are real are losers.

(Mind you, the effort to destroy critical thinking is Hydra-like in scale and has accrued over centuries. Empires and slaves had to invent gradations of humanity—in contradiction of the obvious—to explain their inhumanity,. Companies fucking up people and the world through pollution decided to destroy the basis of empiricism. Churches needing to hold power and capital in ways opposed to their own doctrine had to destroy the idea of doctrine. The wealthy cannot justify their wealth with existing paradigms, and must therefore invent new economics in which their thefts are not theft but sign of superior virtue and intellect…over and over, with “science,” with “theology,” with “ideology”…)

…but US conservatives have constructed their own bespoke version, procedurally generated from existing bullshit, where the emphasis is that their followers don’t have to have beliefs, just signify their belief through rituals of conservative-ness that are most acts of consumption.)

Basically—the right has been trained to see bullshit that sounds right as a form of validity, and the old pseudointellecualism no longer titillates the audience: they want permission, not justification. Tucker Carlson is a transparent panderer—a man who set out to provide Trumpists what they wanted because he could not sell anti-Trump to a big enough market share—but he provides license…to be prurient, to be contemptuous, to be entitled to harm your inferiors…and that is what is desired.

It is not wrong, when reaping, to observe who sowed.

…but that’s exactly what mainstream conservatives and “centrists” are going to do, pretend that the far-right fell from the sky and are not a natural cultural outcome of decades of declaring that beyond their assumptions curiosity is weakness, skepticism is disloyalty, and that it’s offensive to demand rigor or citation. They’ve built the juggernaut; the audience has learned the lesson so well that they don’t need guidance. So the only thing to do is pretend they had nothing to do with it.

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steve_davis  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:09:06pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:10:51pm

Live thread in progress, on a court case where the defendant, a large company, is about to get benchslapped completely out of the courtroom because they were playing “fuck around and find out” with the judge in order to avoid producing their employees’ time and pay records, which the plaintiffs claimed were necessary to prove their case that their employer was playing dirty.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:13:54pm

re: #102 steve_davis

You need to learn to speak more in the subjunctive. “If a gentleman were to walk off a roof, the Gods would favor it if gravity were to come into play.”

So along the lines of the reply in Arkell v. Pressdram, then.

We note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:16:06pm
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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:17:34pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content] #AhmaudArbery’s killers used a Civil War-era “citizen’s arrest” law once used to justify slave patrols to defend chasing and killing him.

i dont know this case that well

were they thinking of this civil war era law and relying on at the time?

or is it just post hoc justification to get away with it?

same as the judge tossing the gun charge in wisconsin - he had to dig deep to find that.

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EPR-radar  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:19:19pm

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea

The core proposition of conservatism is that there should be an in-group the laws protect but don’t bind, and out-groups the laws bind but don’t protect.

Until recently, this was indefensible on its face, spawning the entire industry of right wing pseudo-intellectual bullshit justification crap. Over time this has amounted to millions of pages of drivel, all of which is axiomatically dishonest, and David Brooks is a perfect representative of the people who generated that drivel.

However, that entire industry of right wing pseudo-intellectual bullshit justification crap is now totally obsolete. The Trump years have shown that, for a dangerously high fraction of the electorate, the core proposition of conservatism is no problem at all if they think they will be the in group.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:20:07pm

The playbook for how jackasses with power evade consequences for poor decisions is small and transcends ideology, which is why shit feels so Soviet right now.

But the playbook for jackasses trying to evade consequences after their poor decisions have unleashed a monster is even smaller.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:20:58pm

“Jury of your peers” is a fucking joke these days.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:26:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:27:01pm

Twitter MAGAts and their numerous troll farm reinforcements are loudly condemning CNN for omitting relevant information from the headline of this story:
Police identify Waukesha Christmas parade suspect. Here’s what we know
They are especially concerned that the suspect’s name and race are being “left out,” though the name is given early in the text.
I guess they won’t be satisfied until it is changed to “Crazed Mau Mau Rapper Kills 5 White People in Rittenouse Revenge Atrocity.”

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:29:56pm

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea
Well spoken. Wish I had more updings.
But how do you really feel?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:32:05pm

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

I cannot stress enough how much I am enjoying this tweet thread.
Who knew that a labor dispute in a courtroom could be so highly entertaining?
Thank you!

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:35:54pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Zero chance.
Concern trolling.
Right wing standard.
“I understand BUT….”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:45:01pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Maybe it’ll save him from becoming another Zimmerman.

Sadly, it can’t be denied that the mainstream media misled the public about Rittenhouse, leaving out facts about his father living in the area of the shooting, instead telling us his mother drove him up to a protest with a gun.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:51:10pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

“Jury of your peers” is a fucking joke these days.

Where am I going to find 12 tequila drinking Irishmen to represent me?

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Jay C  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:53:29pm

re: #116 darthstar

Where am I going to find 12 tequila drinking Irishmen to represent me?

And not to mention the alternates….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:57:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:57:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2021 • 1:58:47pm

re: #116 darthstar

Where am I going to find 12 tequila drinking Irishmen to represent me?

Now that would be a fun jury.

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sagehen  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:01:06pm

re: #116 darthstar

Where am I going to find 12 tequila drinking Irishmen to represent me?

Not possible. Irishmen drink whiskey. If you’re looking for tequila drinkers, try California. They’ve got millions of them.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:02:27pm

Cypress, balding:

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:02:48pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Standard Procedure.
Normal.
“You mother fucker! You made me hurt my hand!”

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:03:12pm

re: #122 jaunte

Cypress, balding:

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:03:53pm

I caught part of a really good Fresh Air today wherein the guest, Ryan Busse, a former gun manufacturing executive, explained how the the white grievance identity hooked up with the gun-fetish identity movement to create the crisis we now face. He made the good point that just as Trumpism is only party about Trump, NRAism as it came to be under LaPierre is only getting worse even as the NRA struggles.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:04:07pm

re: #124 Dangerman

We should be able to look forward to our hair coming in green every spring.

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mmmirele  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:06:08pm

All I can say is that if I’d been in CVS getting a shot, and this little twerp was bugging me, I’d be hard pressed not to smack his phone out of his hand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:06:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:09:05pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:10:34pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looked a bit “Tropic Thunder” there for a second.

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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:13:21pm

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:14:14pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:14:17pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:14:26pm

re: #127 mmmirele

All I can say is that if I’d been in CVS getting a shot, and this little twerp was bugging me, I’d be hard pressed not to smack his phone out of his hand.

Then all of a sudden people act like you’re the baddie, and you get arrested.

If you hold up your phone instead and start acting like you’re documenting cranks for your YouTube channel, you can probably shake them with much lower risk to yourself.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:15:45pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everyday people like you and me, riding around in helicopters and military trucks with machine guns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:16:21pm

Peaceful Tourists:

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:17:49pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank god for videos

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:20:06pm

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

I’m still absolutely astounded by people who never met a “bad cop”.
“Oh no. They are being framed.”
Never had a cop try to intimidate or jack you?
You don’t get around.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:21:05pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

The other day on Alex Jones some guy called in to say that you had to nebulize food-grade hydrogen peroxide (35% concentration rather than the commercial 3%).

It’s out these. Probably related to bleach medicine claims in the quack taxonomy.

Eta:

Worth nothing that the people in Dallas are in a cult-cult. Basic belief structure is Qanon, but there’s a guy called Negative 48 who everyone has to defer to and who has constructed his own bespoke interpretation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:21:41pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:23:20pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has she started planning the annual Christmas hellscape decor begun by Melania?

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EPR-radar  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:24:25pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

The other day on Alex Jones some guy called in to say that you had to nebulize food-grade hydrogen peroxide (35% concentration rather than the commercial 3%).

It’s out these. Probably related to bleach medicine claims in the quack taxonomy.

Inhaling nebulized 35% hydrogen peroxide sound like an express ticket to the morgue, as an occupant. Ironically, it would seem to amount to a speed run of a covid infection, doing in minutes via chemical burns the same level of lung damage it takes the virus + immune response weeks to do.

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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:26:02pm

This book must be wondrous, from seeing these photos.

A Photographer’s Journey With the Ancient Baobabs of Madagascar
The death of a sacred tree led to the discovery of other wonders.
atlasobscura.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:26:25pm
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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:27:13pm

driftglass takes on our puzzlement with how to hand Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg: There’s Still Always Work at the Post Office

driftglass.blogspot.com

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:27:33pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

They now suddenly care about the conditions in jails. Funny how that works, eh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:29:04pm
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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:29:10pm

Those of us who never miss a posting on Juanita Jean’s know that she has not been the same since her husband died. She finally posted about that, and her effort to get back.

Finding the Sidewalk

juanitajean.com

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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:33:19pm

re: #138 nines09

I’m still absolutely astounded by people who never met a “bad cop”.
“Oh no. They are being framed.”
Never had a cop try to intimidate or jack you?
You don’t get around.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:36:36pm

re: #121 sagehen

Not possible. Irishmen drink whiskey. If you’re looking for tequila drinkers, try California. They’ve got millions of them.

I’m Irish. I drink tequila. We don’t discriminate when it comes to alcohol.

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TedStriker  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:36:37pm

re: #60 William Lewis

The seller dropped it off at the shippers who put it in a box. There was a bit of bubble wrap at the connector end. Nothing else. The bottom of the box had started ripping out from the 25 pounds of steel chassis. Just disappointing.

That’s why, whenever I sell something on eBay, I always pack it myself (and insure it); that way, I know that, unless the shipper (usually USPS, but also UPS on a very rare occasion) does something monumentally stupid or there’s a unforeseen disaster enroute (which, fortunately, hasn’t happened to me in over fifteen years of shipping eBay sales), what I’m shipping will get to the other end intact and undamaged.

I always strap the boxes in all three axes, all flap edges, and the box joints with multiple layers/runs of Scotch heavy-duty shipping tape.

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EPR-radar  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:37:23pm

re: #138 nines09

I’m still absolutely astounded by people who never met a “bad cop”.
“Oh no. They are being framed.”
Never had a cop try to intimidate or jack you?
You don’t get around.

I’ve never personally met a bad cop, and it is fair to say I don’t get out much (and never have).

But I’m usually pretty good about not extrapolating my personal experience to all of reality, so I’m not about to fall for any of that anti-BLM crap.

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darthstar  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:37:38pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a sad piece of shit surrounding himself with prints of his moments as president.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:37:47pm

re: #149 A Cranky One

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TedStriker  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:39:17pm

re: #154 nines09

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:39:39pm

re: #149 A Cranky One

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BeachDem  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:40:59pm

re: #149 A Cranky One

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They just had a Dateline show on him a few days ago (I didn’t watch it because ewwww)—I remember the creep quite well.

nbc.com

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:42:02pm

Know him personally or just know of him?
He sounds like a real nice guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:43:21pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:44:00pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:45:52pm

re: #160 A Cranky One

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EPR-radar  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:48:13pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look at that — we may be getting some info on GOP command and control of 1/6.

No way was 1/6 just a spontaneous demonstration of the seditious sentiments of Greater Gooberstan.

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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:49:46pm

re: #161 nines09

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:50:21pm

re: #153 darthstar

He has always been a pathetic little man desperately trying to be a big man.

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BeachDem  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:53:09pm

Just because it’s Thanksgiving week, it’s time, once again, for my favorite Charles P. Pierce column of all time. Have the kittens stopped screaming, Maureen? (as in Dowd)

esquire.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:53:42pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:55:14pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Want!

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:55:41pm

re: #163 A Cranky One

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Semper Fi  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:57:28pm

re: #132 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 2:59:33pm
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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:00:06pm

The US has been added to an annual list of “backsliding” democracies for the first time, the International IDEA thinktank has said, pointing to a “visible deterioration” it said began in 2019, The Guardian reports

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:01:17pm

re: #171 Dangerman

Good.

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:02:36pm

Wapo
Not bothsiderism

Jennifer Rubin: “While it’s true that the country is more deeply divided along partisan lines than it has been in the past, it is wrong to suggest a symmetrical devolution into irrational hatred. The polarization argument too often treats both sides as equally worthy of blame, characterizing the problem as a sort of free-floating affliction (e.g., ‘lack of trust’).”

“This blurs the distinction between a Democratic Party that is marginally more progressive in policy positions than it was a decade ago, and a Republican Party that routinely lies, courts violence and seeks to define America as a White Christian nation.”

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:04:52pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s worse in Australia
And on mars

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:07:18pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:08:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:11:00pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:11:38pm

re: #171 Dangerman

The US has been added to an annual list of “backsliding” democracies for the first time, the International IDEA thinktank has said, pointing to a “visible deterioration” it said began in 2019, The Guardian reports

Wow sometimes it takes awhile for the braintrust elite to get clued in but eventually they get it. The USA has been teetering on falling into the Hybrid Regime status alongside Putin’s Russia, falling from the Flawed Democracy we have currently for awhile now.

During Trump 2016 we were planted one foot in one foot out of Hybrid Regime territory but Biden has been trying to pull that one foot back into Flawed Democracy during the past 10 months.

But Trump in 2024 would be a racetrack towards total Dictatorship bypassing even Hybrid Regime via granting full immunity for Oathkeepers, III%ers, racist local police, Republican election official cheats and fraudsters via Pardon power and DOJ corruption.

I’m glad to see it’s finally sinking in but American fascism is here. It’s like beating a big bear back with a stick. It’s been obvious for anyone watching for the past 40 years.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:14:26pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHO CAN LIVE ON OREOS?!!? I NEED DORITOS!!!!!!”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:14:48pm

re: #169 Semper Fi

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:15:35pm

re: #138 nines09

I’m still absolutely astounded by people who never met a “bad cop”.
“Oh no. They are being framed.”
Never had a cop try to intimidate or jack you?
You don’t get around.

Or you don’t know many cops.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:16:48pm
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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:19:23pm

“…the [two payments totaling $121,670] to Fischetti are unlikely to run afoul of federal campaign finance law, said Brendan Fischer, an attorney with the Campaign Legal Center. That’s because the ban on the personal use of funds from campaign committees does not apply to spending by party committees, he said.

But Craig Engle, head of the political law group at the law firm Arent Fox, said party committees have often avoided paying for personal expenses for another reason — fear that they might lose their tax-exempt status, for appearing to use nonprofit funds for their leaders’ personal benefit.
Engle said the RNC’s spending related to the Russia investigations was clearly connected to the then-president’s campaign and position in office. “It’s hard to quarrel with that,” Engle said.

But in this case, Fischer said, the idea that the investigations in New York are connected to Trump’s campaign or position in the party “seems like a real stretch.”

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:19:46pm

re: #181 BeenHereAwhile

I have so many stories from my youth. And I was the prey in some of them.
My father had a friend in the Philly police dept.
He would drive his squad car to a garage he knew, put it on the lift, lift the car 3 inches off the floor, put it in drive and let it run with a brick on the gas.
I witnessed that.
It would show miles on the odometer that he never drove in his “beat”. He had to have mileage to prove he was doing his job.
They would sit and joke, play cards. Have a beer or two sometimes. Ahhh. Work!

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:20:08pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

The other day on Alex Jones some guy called in to say that you had to nebulize food-grade hydrogen peroxide (35% concentration rather than the commercial 3%).

It’s out these. Probably related to bleach medicine claims in the quack taxonomy.

-snip-

IIRC 35% hydrogen peroxide is “effin” unstable.

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jaunte  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:20:31pm

I’m OK with the RNC losing tax-exempt status.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:25:43pm

re: #185 BeenHereAwhile

-snip-

IIRC 35% hydrogen peroxide is “effin” unstable.

You can buy it commercially to, in theory, dilute for cleaning purposes. It’s hazmat but not reactive.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:25:54pm

Charlie Cox will return as Matt Murdoch/Daredevil in four MCU projects.
I’d like to see them do the same with Krysten Ritter’s Jessica Jones.

One-sentence “article” at msn.com

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austin_blue  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:26:57pm

Well, this is a really, really late CL, but…

re: #36 sagehen

So was your Jabberwocky music instead of words, or music accompanying the words? And is it on video?

‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves.
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,.
And the mome raths outgrabe.
<<<<<>>>>

Highly composed spoken word and solo clarsach (Celtic lever harp, in this case a Starfish Designs Glenelle starfishdesigns.co.uk ).

The composer is Kimberly Osberg ( kimberlyosberg.com ) who now lives in Portland.

Video is presently being processed from the camera to a usable html file format.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:28:54pm
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austin_blue  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:31:23pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no ideas Hummers were so attracted to Margaritas…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:31:51pm
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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:33:59pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have great videos.

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Dangerman  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:34:57pm

re: #184 nines09

I have so many stories from my youth. And I was the prey in some of them.
My father had a friend in the Philly police dept.
He would drive his squad car to a garage he knew, put it on the lift, lift the car 3 inches….

thought this was going somewhere else

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:35:12pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:37:23pm

re: #127 mmmirele

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All I can say is that if I’d been in CVS getting a shot, and this little twerp was bugging me, I’d be hard pressed not to smack his phone out of his hand.

This guy is the new definition of Backpfeifengesicht.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:38:54pm

re: #194 Dangerman

That was just a neighborhood thing. He got caught some time after that and was busted to a patrolman (on foot) down in the rougher end of that precinct at that time. Took his ride.
Not happy. Bad knees. As I think about it, I think it was bad feet. Lots of bad feet in the older folks in my young days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:41:02pm
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TedStriker  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:42:59pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

“What I’ve seen, the things I have seen…”

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:43:28pm

My battery finally came and now I am charging it up. It came to me with only a 23% charge. I am also reading the instructions.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:46:57pm

re: #200 PhillyPretzel

If it’s Lithium, that’s the level they charge it to ship.
Most rechargeable batteries are shipped drained.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:54:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:55:01pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like a zombie muppet.

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A Cranky One  Nov 22, 2021 • 3:59:29pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn. For a second I thought I’d turned on my selfie camera.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 22, 2021 • 4:13:04pm

re: #187 The Ghost of a Flea

You can buy it commercially to, in theory, dilute for cleaning purposes. It’s hazmat but not reactive.

People refinish old plastic computer enclosures with HP. They call it “retrobrighting”, and there are a million videos on YouTube. 20% HP and a UV light (usually UV LED strips).


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