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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:38:42am

What about us responsible people that don’t have student loans?! Why don’t we get any money???

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:38:42am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:40:12am

From downstairs:
re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

one guess who she’s blaming

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:40:19am

Since the Dobbs decision was handed down, Democrats have been outperforming the partisan bias in House districts in special elections by an average of nine points. If that holds up in the midterms, Democrats stand a real chance of retaining control of Congress, and even expanding their Senate majority which could allow them to pass critical legislation protecting voting rights and abortion rights currently blocked by the filibuster.

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:48:38am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:49:33am

Oops. Check newer post where I fixed photo.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:49:47am
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:50:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:51:46am

re: #7 Crush White Nationalism

It’s not like people know IN ADVANCE that they will “likely be unable to pay” their debt, Ben.

Circumstances change, you dumbass.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:52:46am

re: #5 Captain Ron

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:54:04am
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:54:13am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s not like people know IN ADVANCE that they will “likely be unable to pay” their debt, Ben.

Circumstances change, you dumbass.

He’s the guy who thinks you can sell your house to mermaids when the sea rises. He’s highly-educated, but he’s also an idiot.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:54:46am

Someone’s been busy.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:55:21am
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 10:57:46am

i didnt get the signal we moved forward

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

I went a community college. I have two degrees. I have no student loan debt.

I’m absolutely fine with debt relief for others.

i bought my car a month before the dealer had a sale
i want the sale price

i just paid off my car loan
new buyers are getting no interest, no payments for the first 6 months.
the bank should pay me back six months and all the interest

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A Cranky One  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:00:18am
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:01:51am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

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Someone’s been busy.

‘Burn it.” - Henry Fonda, Battle of the Bulge

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:05:55am
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sizzzzlerz  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:13:07am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Why should the gubmint’s money help middle or lower class people when it could be used to pay for a billionaire’s 3rd yacht or 2nd ranch in Montana on which to pretend they’re raising cattle for the tax breaks.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:14:05am
“A federal judge in Texas late on Tuesday blocked President Joe Biden’s administration from enforcing new guidance in the Republican-led state requiring hospitals to provide emergency abortions to women regardless of state bans on the procedure,” Reuters reports.

aside from all the constitutional issues and the conflicting rights issues between living person and potential-but-not-person

what theyve done is outlaw a medical procedure…so it’s not used the ‘wrong’ way.
while it could be used for ‘evil’, it can also be used for ‘good’
you know, just like a gun

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:14:07am
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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:14:25am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Nothing says freakout more than claiming that anyone making under $125,000 is rich. That’s the cap on the program, and if you’re just getting out of college, you’re probably not getting a six figure job unless you’re in certain professions, and even then, you’ll stand to benefit from the programs being offered.

The GOP have no solutions to help Americans, let alone the middle class. They just have caterwauling and seditious conspiracy to end democracy and sabotaging govt. They don’t have any ideas that would help all Americans.

But they do have a plan to end Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP.

And they haven’t stopped trying to end Obamacare too.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:16:52am

re: #5 Captain Ron

It may be hard to remember now, but Republicans were racist shits long before Trump.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:17:33am

re: #19 sizzzzlerz

Why should the gubmint’s money help middle or lower class people when it could be used to pay for a billionaire’s 3rd yacht or 2nd ranch in Montana on which to pretend they’re raising cattle for the tax breaks.

well it’s easy to think of it like a tax cut.
that should make the R’s happy with it.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:20:58am

“Former Interior secretary Ryan Zinke, the leading contender to win a new House seat representing Montana this fall, lied to investigators several times about conversations he had with federal officials, lawmakers and lobbyists about a petition by two Indian tribes to operate a casino in New England,” the Washington Post reports.

——

Investigators found that Zinke and his chief of staff “made statements to OIG investigators with the overall intent to mislead them.”

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:21:30am

re: #24 Dangerman

well it’s easy to think of it like a tax cut.
that should make the R’s happy with it.

Nope, the GOP wants to raise taxes on middle class people. They are only happy with tax cuts which primarily benefit corporations and billionaires.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:23:38am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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That second one is like arguing you have to let someone into your house so they can give you their opinion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:24:15am

re: #23 No Malarkey!

It may be hard to remember now, but Republicans were racist shits long before Trump.

I remember all the anti-Muslim hatred they fomented after 9/11. Those people straight up killed a few innocent middle easterners in the days that followed.

(I know racism in the GOP predates 9/11).

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:26:04am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember all the anti-Muslim hatred they fomented after 9/11. Those people straight up killed a few innocent middle easterners in the days that followed.

(I know racism in the GOP predates 9/11).

They murdered Sikhs, because they didn’t understand or care that a Sikh with a turban is not a Muslim. He just looked foreign and that’s all it took to target them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:29:34am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember all the anti-Muslim hatred they fomented after 9/11. Those people straight up killed a few innocent middle easterners in the days that followed.

(I know racism in the GOP predates 9/11).

9/11 just ramped it up massively.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:29:50am

re: #4 No Malarkey!

Yes, please. I cannot imagine how horrible things will get if Republicans get control of the House or Senate. President Biden’s agenda will be completely over and we’ll have two solid years of them trying to get back at Democrats for impeaching Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:31:47am

re: #25 Dangerman

Trump certainly had a knack for hiring the best liars. I’ll give him that.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:35:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:35:57am

re: #23 No Malarkey!

It may be hard to remember now, but Republicans were racist shits long before Trump.

I will bring this up again: “economic anxiety” had fuck all to do with it: I grew up in the Industrial Midwest during the Golden Age of the White Working Man, when they never had it so good - before or ever again, and they were racist as hell back then.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:36:24am

Pwnage of the Day

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:37:59am
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:39:03am

re: #35 The Pie Overlord!

Pwnage of the Day

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:40:10am

Pwnage with receipts

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:40:31am

re: #31 Patricia Kayden

Yes, please. I cannot imagine how horrible things will get if Republicans get control of the House or Senate. President Biden’s agenda will be completely over and we’ll have two solid years of them trying to get back at Democrats for impeaching Trump.

If Republicans get the House, we’ll have at least three impeachments of Biden (frivolous, of course) so that GOP God-Emperor Trump is no longer the most-impeached president in history.

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aatharuv  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:40:46am

re: #29 lawhawk

They murdered Sikhs, because they didn’t understand or care that a Sikh with a turban is not a Muslim. He just looked foreign and that’s all it took to target them.

Rage is uncontrollable, Sikhs have been getting attacked whenever there was fear or paranoia of some vaguely Middle Eastern, or just beyond the boundaries of “white” group was the subject of hate.

When Iranians were the subject of the 2 minute hate, Sikhs were attacked, when Libyans were the subject of the 2 minute hate , Sikhs were attacked, when…

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:43:05am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will bring this up again: “economic anxiety” had fuck all to do with it: I grew up in the Industrial Midwest during the Golden Age of the White Working Man, when they never had it so good - before or ever again, and they were racist as hell back then.

However, that was before the parties sorted themselves by racism — at that time, there were plenty of racist dems and republicans who favored action on civil rights.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:43:17am

re: #39 EPR-radar

If Republicans get the House, we’ll have at least three impeachments of Biden (frivolous, of course) so that GOP God-Emperor is no longer the most-impeached president in history.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:44:26am

re: #16 A Cranky One

He’ll likely earn a stiff sentence….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:44:34am

re: #37 Crush White Nationalism

GOP: University education = “worthless gender study”

People with degrees in Engineering, Education, Physics, Biology, Medicine, Computer Science, Social Services, Business, Architecture, Hospitality Services, etc., all quietly flip you a non-gender-specific finger.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:44:54am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:45:10am

What happened with the Gaetz investigation? Was someone paid off? It seems to have disappeared. Please tell me I’m wrong.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:45:12am

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

From downstairs:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:45:25am

re: #43 Jay C

He’ll likely earn a stiff sentence….

But if it lasted more than four hours he would have to contact his warden.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:46:40am

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Pwnage with receipts

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:47:17am

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

In an attempt to hide the fact that they’re not doing anything.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:49:34am

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz.

There’s an asshole dream team if there ever was one.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:53:23am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People with degrees in Engineering, Education, Physics, Biology, Medicine, Computer Science, Social Services, Business, Architecture, Hospitality Services, etc., all quietly flip you a non-gender-specific finger.

A lot of Black students racked up debt attending scam for-profit schools such as ITT Tech which were supposed to be preparing them for real jobs, but left them with deep debt and worthless degrees or non-transferable credits. Eliminating that debt will help reduce economic inequality.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:55:00am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:56:01am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I am certain Trump was somehow making money off of that grift, I just don’t know how.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 11:57:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:02:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:02:38pm

re: #54 No Malarkey!

I am certain Trump was somehow making money off of that grift, I just don’t know how.

Either Trump or one of his cronies.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:02:42pm
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steve_davis  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:05:18pm

re: #15 Dangerman

i didnt get the signal we moved forward

i bought my car a month before the dealer had a sale
i want the sale price

i just paid off my car loan
new buyers are getting no interest, no payments for the first 6 months.
the bank should pay me back six months and all the interest

i have mixed feelings about debt relief. I know one of those folks who put everything on a student loan, even to the point of consuming about 3,000 dollars a year at Starbucks, and who is now waiting out the 20 year clock on loan forgiveness. There are plenty of folks with degrees in stuff that they honest to God should have known was going to leave them with hopeless degrees. Yes, Art History is likely useful, to the 50 or so people a year who can be employed as curators somewhere. But if you blew through a quarter mill getting an Art History degree from Harvard, I’m not really inclined to be on the hook to help you pay back the loan. Then again, I went to school in a different age. I had no debt when I exited. I managed to almost pay my way through graduate school, but of course I had strong support that kept me from having to pay rent through those years. So yes, I like the idea of loan forgiveness, but there is also a part of me that believes in moral hazard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:06:29pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Staffers in the Trump White House tried to pressure the
US FDA into reauthorizing the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine after it had been discredited as a COVID-19 treatment, according to a new congressional report.

Had hydroxychloroquine turned out to be the least bit effective against Covid, 45py would still be president and he would be hailed as a genius avatar and savior of the American People.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:08:03pm

People telling kids not to enroll in college to avoid student debt are going to contribute to something I’m hearing from a presentation about hiring: Student enrollment in college is down 13% from last year. So my defense government contractor job will have even more trouble finding people to work, which, since this is a country wide problem, will affect our ability to keep innovating for our defense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:08:50pm

re: #59 steve_davis

Then again, I went to school in a different age. I had no debt when I exited. I managed to almost pay my way through graduate school, but of course I had strong support that kept me from having to pay rent through those years. So yes, I like the idea of loan forgiveness, but there is also a part of me that believes in moral hazard.

Ditto here; I had Social Security benefits to cover my undergrad degree, BEOG funding and a TA position to cover grad school - at a time when in-state tuition was like $300 per semester, something you could cover with a part-time and/or summer job.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:09:12pm

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People with degrees in Engineering, Education, Physics, Biology, Medicine, Social Services, Business, Architecture, Hospitality Services, etc., all quietly flip you a non-gender-specific finger.

Well, it’s a safe guess that if the GOPers can’t kill the whole student-loan-forgiveness program entirely (since we know Republicans just HATE any program that may benefit people who can’t be relied on to donate some of their windfall(s) back to the GOP), some sort of restrictions as to applying said loan-forgiveness to only “real” degree studies* would surely be in the offing….

*i.e., “useful” or “practical” or “economically contributing”: IOW, whatever field has the most potential Republicans (donors) in it….

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:09:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:11:22pm

It will help a lot of people, and that’s great, but the real underlying problem won’t be fixed by student loan forgiveness; the price of higher education is absurdly out of control to the point where soon only wealthy families will be able to afford it.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:15:04pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Don’t tell Trump. It would excite him to be seen as having that kind of influence on Americans.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:15:43pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

It will help a lot of people, and that’s great, but the real underlying problem won’t be fixed by student loan forgiveness; the price of higher education is absurdly out of control to the point where soon only wealthy families will be able to afford it.

That is the root of the problem. We should fix that and forgive the debt from the current exploitative system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:16:09pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

Releasing innocent people from death row is an INSULT to all the innocent people who went to the electric chair!!!

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:17:25pm

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had hydroxychloroquine turned out to be the least bit effective against Covid, 45py would still be president and he would be hailed as a genius avatar and savior of the American People.

The odds of random bullshit like that being effective are about the same odds as Trump being a competent President who led America to prosperity.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:19:23pm

And now for something quite different that I just heard on Minnesota Public Radio classical music:

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:19:58pm

One of my managers got a degree in playing the organ back in the 80s. My company, like lots of companies, used to train employees, and would claim it as a business expense. Now they don’t because they push the price onto the employee by requirements for degrees. People should be able to claim them as a business expense if they aren’t forgiven.

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steve_davis  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:23:45pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

It will help a lot of people, and that’s great, but the real underlying problem won’t be fixed by student loan forgiveness; the price of higher education is absurdly out of control to the point where soon only wealthy families will be able to afford it.

there’s a case to be made that one of the reasons tuition has skyrocketed is because it’s relatively easy to borrow money for the costs. Law school is notorious for this. In 1980, you could make it through law school with relatively little debt. Now, even a fourth-tier program is 50-60k a year. And of course, if you go to the fourth-tier, you have way less chance of being some place with a strong civic sense of providing financial assistance to the student body. I got offered a spot—without applying—at some crummy law school in Brooklyn. “You don’t pay a thing!” Yes, you don’t pay a thing for the first year. Then, grades come in. If you’re outside the top 10 percent, you suddenly discover that you’re paying your own freight from that time forward. And because you are at a fourth-tier law school, when you’re an L3, trying desperately to land an interview with a big box firm, or land a coveted gig as a law clerk, you’re shit out of luck.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:25:18pm

From downstairs:

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

So Trump just randomly threw shit in boxes without really caring what it was?

Totally sounds like him.

The fact that he had these documents in his possession meant that they were relevant to some policy decision or foreign activity during his administration. It’s not as though Obama left documents lying around when he vacated the premises that Trump gathered for his own use. Or maybe these were high value documents that certain foreign leaders requested (MBS? Putin? Erdogan?) that could identify American assets in hostile territory. A multitude of other possibilities for why he would have obtained them — none of the reasons are due to their accidentally showing up in the WH.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:26:40pm

re: #59 steve_davis

i have mixed feelings about debt relief. I know one of those folks who put everything on a student loan, even to the point of consuming about 3,000 dollars a year at Starbucks, and who is now waiting out the 20 year clock on loan forgiveness. There are plenty of folks with degrees in stuff that they honest to God should have known was going to leave them with hopeless degrees. Yes, Art History is likely useful, to the 50 or so people a year who can be employed as curators somewhere. But if you blew through a quarter mill getting an Art History degree from Harvard, I’m not really inclined to be on the hook to help you pay back the loan. Then again, I went to school in a different age. I had no debt when I exited. I managed to almost pay my way through graduate school, but of course I had strong support that kept me from having to pay rent through those years. So yes, I like the idea of loan forgiveness, but there is also a part of me that believes in moral hazard.

i dont know that there’s only one good way how to attack this.
10 or 20k is either a lot, or for the 250k art history major - insignificant enough not to matter.
then there’s the 125k income ceiling - should limit some of who doesn’t “need” it desperately.
and the payout cap of max 5% max of your income should also be a help.

it’s not neat or clean, there’s always some amount of slop or undeservedness.
overall i think it’s a good deal.

in short, politics at its core; a compromise sausage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:28:00pm

re: #69 Crush White Nationalism

The odds of random bullshit like that being effective are about the same odds as Trump being a competent President who led America to prosperity.

of course, but if hydroxychloroquine had been even a tiny bit effective, it’s effects would have been overblown, its shortcomings downplayed (“all fake news from the elitist so-called experts”) and FOX would haven praised it to the heavens as the Gift of the Orange One.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:28:05pm

re: #72 steve_davis

there’s a case to be made that one of the reasons tuition has skyrocketed is because it’s relatively easy to borrow money for the costs.

Kids are told they have to go to school, with companies requiring degrees. How are they going to get those degrees?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:28:12pm

re: #4 No Malarkey!

Since the Dobbs decision was handed down, Democrats have been outperforming the partisan bias in House districts in special elections by an average of nine points. If that holds up in the midterms, Democrats stand a real chance of retaining control of Congress, and even expanding their Senate majority which could allow them to pass critical legislation protecting voting rights and abortion rights currently blocked by the filibuster.

Even Gaetz could lose. If Dobbs turns this into a blue wave, even the reddest seats are vulnerable, especially in an off-year election where Trump is not on the ballot.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:29:46pm

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

of course, but if hydroxychloroquine had been even a tiny bit effective, it’s effects would have been overblown, its shortcomings downplayed (“all fake news from the elitist so-called experts”) and FOX would haven praised it to the heavens as the Gift of the Orange One.

They did that when it didn’t work!

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:30:16pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Even Gaetz could lose. If Dobbs turns this into a blue wave, even the reddest seats are vulnerable, especially in an off-year election where Trump is not on the ballot.

What’s most vulnerable in a unexpected wave election are Gerrymandered House seats that are supposed to be just red enough to ensure GOP victory.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:31:22pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Even Gaetz could lose. If Dobbs turns this into a blue wave, even the reddest seats are vulnerable, especially in an off-year election where Trump is not on the ballot.

DeSantis has been luring absolute morons to Florida since the covid restrictions hit, and driving sane people out of the state. I have little hope for Florida at this time. I’ll revise that opinion if Charlie Crist wins and sets a sane tone for the state.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:32:12pm

re: #78 Crush White Nationalism

They did that when it didn’t work!

If there had been the slightest evidence it did work, the both-sides hurdy-gurdy in the mainstream media would have wheezed into action to amplify GOP/Faux News talking points regarding covid and handling the epidemic.

That’s what didn’t happen because of 0 evidence of efficacy.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:34:13pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Either Trump or one of his cronies.

Like the Mafia gangster he is, Trump’s likely avenue was to enable the many crooks and liars the ability to bilk the gullible MAGA crowd for all the fake Covid cures they could muster.. then funnel proceeds towards Trump businesses, cons, and campaign fraud orgs.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:36:00pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:37:34pm

re: #76 Belafon

Kids are told they have to go to school, with companies requiring degrees. How are they going to get those degrees?

Go to college in India.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:44:35pm

re: #78 Crush White Nationalism

They did that when it didn’t work!

again, imagine if it had been even the slightest tiny bit effective.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:44:39pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Nothing to add to this
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:44:57pm

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

Go to college in India.

That’s not going to help them in America. A degree from India isn’t worth much here because of the long history of cheating being accepted in their schools. The story behind that is needing to get ridiculously high scores to succeed there, so they cave to the pressure and cheat, but it still makes them bad candidates.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:47:04pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

What’s most vulnerable in a unexpected wave election are Gerrymandered House seats that are supposed to be just red enough to ensure GOP victory.

As I’ve said before, in 1994 Democratic legend Rostenkowski was swept from office in a deep blue district by a no-name opponent, a man who was vanquished in the 1996 election by Rahm Emmanuel, when the Chicago traditional “moral” order was restored.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:48:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:50:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:51:27pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:51:33pm

A lot of Americans also understand that inflation is not just a partisan political matter: it is the result of a lot of worldwide factors ranging from pandemics to war to climate change, ones which a President and his Party can only mitigate, not eliminate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:51:56pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:54:18pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

The prosperity of any nation can be measured in the number of private jets in service. Along with yachts and third-plus vacation homes.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:54:20pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pat Ryan told me he directly experienced voter angst *about threats to democracy.*

The right’s “power grab” is wildly out of step” with “the vast majority of Americans,” he said.

I like to hear that, since I’ve been going crazy over my perhaps-mistaken perception that most people don’t care about the coup attempt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:55:53pm

re: #95 Crush White Nationalism

I like to hear that, since I’ve been going crazy over my perhaps-mistaken perception that most people don’t care about the coup attempt.

Again, at least the January 6th hearings generally put to rest the talking point that it was al and Antifa/BLM false flag.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 24, 2022 • 12:57:24pm

re: #80 Crush White Nationalism

DeSantis has been luring absolute morons to Florida since the covid restrictions hit, and driving sane people out of the state. I have little hope for Florida at this time. I’ll revise that opinion if Charlie Crist wins and sets a sane tone for the state.

I have 2 kids in Middle School here and we are already planning a longer term bail out of Florida as soon as they leave high school. However if the political situation worsens here we will likely move up the timetable to flee to California before then despite protests. Knowing I am living amongst a majority of outright proud racists with the Klan hoods finally off that have control over local and state governments that I pay taxes towards will make me want to vomit every day.

The good news is the real estate market here in Florida the past few years has provided the financial opportunity to make the once unobtainable California market possible for us. Rich MAGA elite and soulless housing corporations from all over the South have flocked here to the Panhandle to be with their own kind- rich and racist. I’ll take that money when it comes time to sell and move to a state that at least a glimmer left of reason, enlightenment and learning.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:06:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:07:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:09:54pm

cry more…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:12:20pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nobody loses legitimately in the GOP anymore. If someone loses, it’s faulty machines, or voter fraud or some kind of conspiracy by the Clintons and George Soros.

It simply couldn’t be that most of them are horrible people who absolutely suck.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:12:23pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ditto here; I had Social Security benefits to cover my undergrad degree, BEOG funding and a TA position to cover grad school - at a time when in-state tuition was like $300 per semester, something you could cover with a part-time and/or summer job.

No debt; parents paid for undergrad (I went to UMD as a state resident, so fairly reasonable in cost) and my advisor paid for my Ph.D.

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nines09  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:13:16pm
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A Cranky One  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:14:17pm

My younger daughter became a speech therapist. A Masters degree is required.

Her work improves the lives of lots of kids. She loves her job (excluding idiot administrators).

It cost her over $160K to get the necessary degrees from good schools.

And FYI, teacher pay sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:14:27pm
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:15:40pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:16:54pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

A usual 4/6 for me today also

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:17:44pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:18:33pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

University education is free in Czech Republic.

And no one bitches about it - everyone knows that taxes are the price we pay for civilization.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:20:50pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:26:17pm

Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:26:32pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:27:05pm

re: #106 Belafon

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:41:07pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, it seems more like objective selfishness to me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:43:02pm

He reminds me of the bullies I fucking hated in school.

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Captain Ron  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:43:10pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:46:54pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

He reminds me of the bullies I fucking hated in school.

You have to make bullies bleed. It’s the only thing that stops them, and in my experience, it stops them instantly.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:47:02pm

this is trending

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:48:50pm

re: #117 Crush White Nationalism

You have to make bullies bleed. It’s the only thing that stops them, and in my experience, it stops them instantly.

One day in fifth grade I beat the absolute crap out of this kid who would not stop bothering me at school. He was a couple of inches taller than me and about 30 pounds heavier, but I took him down fast and just pummeled on him until my knuckles were sore.

Needless to say, he didn’t bother me after that.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:49:22pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle never could get the hang of Thursdays.

I call this one Vigil On The Moor.

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SibData: 4,4,5,5

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:49:33pm

re: #118 I Would Prefer Not To

Also, their orange God-King is NOTORIOUS for not paying people what they are owed.

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gwangung  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:50:39pm

re: #118 I Would Prefer Not To

Huh. Don’t you also hear that from mob enforcers?

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:50:47pm

re: #118 I Would Prefer Not To

this is trending

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:50:48pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, their orange God-King is NOTORIOUS for not paying people what they are owed.

Except that student loan is not covered by personal bankruptcy.

which again shows that money is not the absolute value that they like to make it out to be

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:54:37pm

These Trees Are Spreading North in Alaska. That’s Not Good
White spruce trees are expanding into the Arctic tundra with stunning speed, with potentially serious consequences both for the region and the world.
wired.com

Thawing permafrost is the aspect of Arctic greening that concerns scientists the most. These frozen soils are loaded with dead organic matter that hasn’t fully decomposed, but will decay rapidly once it thaws. Microbes then begin munching on the material, spewing both carbon dioxide and methane, an extremely potent greenhouse gas. Permafrost is now thawing so fast that Arctic land is collapsing, gouging great big holes in the landscape. “The implications are significant,” says Goetz. “It always comes around to the permafrost in the end, because that’s the big carbon reservoir that’s being mobilized.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:55:32pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

What about us responsible people that don’t have student loans?! Why don’t we get any money???

Give people who had no college at all $10,000. /s

Already the Republican destruction of education by excessive fees was beginning by the time I was old enough for college. Being poor and the eldest of a single mother, I was the first person in my family in generations not to go to college, because the price was already out-of-reach. My sister tried to go to Columbia for veterinary school, but was out after one year because she exhausted her money. Only one cousin in my generation has earned a degree (registered nurse) because her church paid for it.

My wife started at the University of Florida at age sixteen for a computer science degree in 1979, then DeVry (the actual campus) for a business administration degree. (There was a photo in the Gainesville newspaper of her as the youngest and an eighty-something woman as the oldest graduates from UF—the elderly woman earned a degree in Fine Arts-Music). We only paid my wife’s school debt off several years into our marriage after 2007.

I also paid my first wife’s debt off for her degree in Fine Arts-Music from the University of South Florida.

On the putative $250,000 Art History degree from Harvard above and saying “you should know what fields you can make money in,” the overwhelming majority of student debt in this country is held by medical or law students (two fields where you can allegedly make scads of money, as long as you don’t practice in rural areas, which is why we have a shortage of doctors and lawyers).

That whole argument “you should know what you can make money in” belies three issues.

The first is that treats education as simply creating cogs for the capitalist machine. The world needs art history majors (and fine arts in general) too.

The second is a useful degree (to capitalists) when you start may not be useful when you finish, or later.

The third is even “useful” degrees (like library science or education) will fall to the relentless barbarian cultures wars which have always been endless on the right (book bannings and burnings, firing teachers for sharing the QR code to a library or not teaching the fascist-approved version of race history or saying “gay).

Conservatives will destroy an entire society (and there are countless examples of that in history) rather than let anyone have an iota of power in an “unapproved” area.

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gwangung  Aug 24, 2022 • 1:59:16pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Give people who had no college at all $10,000. /s

Already the Republican destruction of education by excessive fees was beginning by the time I was old enough for college. Being poor and the eldest of a single mother, I was the first person in my family in generations not to go to college, because the price was already out-of-reach. My sister tried to go to Columbia for veterinary school, but was out after one year because she exhausted her money. Only one cousin in my generation has earned a degree (registered nurse) because her church paid for it.

My wife started at the University of Florida at age sixteen for a computer science degree in 1979, then DeVry (the actual campus) for a business administration degree. (There was a photo in the Gainesville newspaper of her as the youngest and an eighty-something woman as the oldest graduates from UF—the elderly woman earned a degree in Fine Arts-Music). We only paid my wife’s school debt off several years into our marriage after 2007.

I also paid my first wife’s debt off for her degree in Fine Arts-Music from the University of South Florida.

On the putative $250,000 Art History degree from Harvard above and saying “you should know what fields you can make money in,” the overwhelming majority of student debt in this country is held by medical or law students (two fields where you can allegedly make scads of money, as long as you don’t practice in rural areas, which is why we have a shortage of doctors and lawyers).

That whole argument “you should know what you can make money in” belies three issues.

The first is that treats education as simply creating cogs for the capitalist machine. The world needs art history majors (and fine arts in general) too.

The second is a useful degree (to capitalists) when you start may not be useful when you finish, or later.

The third is even “useful” degrees (like library science or education) will fall to the relentless barbarian cultures wars which have always been endless on the right (book bannings and burnings, firing teachers for sharing the QR code to a library or not teaching the fascist-approved version of race history or saying “gay).

Conservatives will destroy an entire society (and there are countless examples of that in history) rather than let anyone have an iota of power in an “unapproved” area.

You know…a LOT of the big time entrepreneur types who are donors to my school like to hire liberal arts graduates (i.e., the art history types), and not the grads with “useful” degrees. Why? Because liberal arts teaches you how to think and THAT is what the big time entrepreneur type want in the people they hire….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:00:54pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

What’s most vulnerable in a unexpected wave election are Gerrymandered House seats that are supposed to be just red enough to ensure GOP victory.

Not enough to flip my R+56 district though unless voters here get really mad. (If they’re mad enough to flip my district, that would flip every district.)

On the other hand, my representative is actually having to come to the district and actually campaign, where he gets challenged at every stop, because though the national party won’t assist “hopeless” seats (thus ceding them and always making them hopeless), the state party is leaving no seat unchallenged and making the GOP defend them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:02:07pm

re: #125 retired cynic

These Trees Are Spreading North in Alaska. That’s Not Good
White spruce trees are expanding into the Arctic tundra with stunning speed, with potentially serious consequences both for the region and the world.
wired.com

Herschel Walker will claim vindication…

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:03:31pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

Nobody loses legitimately in the GOP anymore. If someone loses, it’s faulty machines, or voter fraud or some kind of conspiracy by the Clintons and George Soros.

It simply couldn’t be that most of them are horrible people who absolutely suck.

Their subculture tells them that it’s not just OK, but right and just, to blame their problems on other people. Losing an election is just another problem to blame on other people.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:03:43pm

And the beat goes on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:05:39pm

re: #49 Crush White Nationalism

Steven Crowder wrote:

Student loan forgiveness sounds really nice to illegal immigrants, people with no life experience, people who don’t have families yet, and people who use preferred pronouns.

Well, Steve, since you have no “preferred pronoun,” I’m sure you wouldn’t be offended if someone referred to you as “she/her.”

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:06:59pm

Glad I waited.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:08:34pm

You know why I have no problem with student loan forgiveness despite having no loans myself?

Because I have SO many friends and family members who will benefit from this. And I love things that help others rise up.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:08:35pm

re: #131 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:08:47pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Steven Crowder wrote:

Well, Steve, since you have no “preferred pronoun,” I’m sure you wouldn’t be offended if someone referred to you as “she/her.”

Ummm no. I’m pretty sure every woman here would prefer not to be associated with that Shit/Stain.

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gwangung  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:10:40pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

You know why I have no problem with student loan forgiveness despite having no loans myself?

Because I have SO many friends and family members who will benefit from this. And I love things that help others rise up.

A-freaking-men.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:13:23pm

Welp yesterday I had a bone scan and today I learned that I have osteoporosis (in addition to osteoarthritis).

Obviously I need to eat MOAR ICE CREAM!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:14:12pm

Man, some of these have been tripping me up lately…

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dat_said  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:15:52pm

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

Welp yesterday I had a bone scan and today I learned that I have osteoporosis (in addition to osteoarthritis).

Obviously I need to eat MOAR ICE CREAM!

And more chocolate since it has anti-Inflammatory effects (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:17:11pm

re: #140 dat_said

Oh hell yeah!

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:19:21pm

re: #130 Crush White Nationalism

Their subculture tells them that it’s not just OK, but right and just, to blame their problems on other people. Losing an election is just another problem to blame on other people.

Party of Personal Responsibility, My Ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:19:30pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:20:26pm

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

Welp yesterday I had a bone scan and today I learned that I have osteoporosis (in addition to osteoarthritis).

Obviously I need to eat MOAR ICE CREAM!

That seems reasonable to me.
Thanks to my acid reflux, I get plenty of calcium from Tums, so no ice cream excuse for me.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:21:33pm

re: #142 A Three Hour Tour

Party of Personal Responsibility, My Ass.

The party of demagogues who give bigoted white people who think they’re above the law someone to blame for their own problems.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:21:59pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think Biden will have the chance to replace Wray at the FBI, but I suspect he would be the first to pick a Democrat for the job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:22:48pm

boofuckinghoo

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:22:51pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:23:03pm

re: #144 Crush White Nationalism

That seems reasonable to me.
Thanks to my acid reflux, I get plenty of calcium from Tums, so no ice cream excuse for me.

I have my portion of probiotic yoghurt or a yoghurt drink every morning, it seems to help keep my gun and general immune system healthy and makes sure I get a good dose of calcium.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:26:38pm

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I eat a yogurt like that with my lunch almost every day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:27:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:27:47pm

re: #97 Florida Panhandler

I have 2 kids in Middle School here and we are already planning a longer term bail out of Florida as soon as they leave high school. However if the political situation worsens here we will likely move up the timetable to flee to California before then despite protests. Knowing I am living amongst a majority of outright proud racists with the Klan hoods finally off that have control over local and state governments that I pay taxes towards will make me want to vomit every day.

The good news is the real estate market here in Florida the past few years has provided the financial opportunity to make the once unobtainable California market possible for us. Rich MAGA elite and soulless housing corporations from all over the South have flocked here to the Panhandle to be with their own kind- rich and racist. I’ll take that money when it comes time to sell and move to a state that at least a glimmer left of reason, enlightenment and learning.

Move here. /s

Racists are everywhere: At least ours aren’t out and proud.

The racist who hijacked an Amtrak train in Nebraska with the intent of “killing all the Black people on it” was from California. (He’s gone to jail for terrorism for the rest of his life, as hijacking trains is defined in federal law as terrorism.)

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:28:42pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

cry more…

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She always looks like a drowned rat. She should get fashion tips from Meghan McCain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:30:24pm

mohr whining

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:30:48pm

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have my portion of probiotic yoghurt or a yoghurt drink every morning, it seems to help keep my gun and general immune system healthy and makes sure I get a good dose of calcium.

Is that a typo, or is this yogurt good to cure erectile disfunction?

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:31:20pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit, Doocy really does look like a thumb with eyes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:31:42pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

cry more…

Handcuff yourself to the Florida GOP headquarters, Laura.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:32:04pm
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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:32:21pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

cry more…

delicious wingnut tears

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:32:46pm

Whole buncha these being kicked around.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:33:12pm

re: #159 No Malarkey!

delicious wingnut tears

That’s literally the only thing wingnuts produce that has any value.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:33:41pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:33:53pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohr whining

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:35:18pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:41:42pm

re: #136 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Ummm no. I’m pretty sure every woman here would prefer not to be associated with that Shit/Stain.

How about it/it then? Since wingnuts so love to use “it” to refer to trans people, turn it back on them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:43:00pm

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

Welp yesterday I had a bone scan and today I learned that I have osteoporosis (in addition to osteoarthritis).

Obviously I need to eat MOAR ICE CREAM!

Welcome to the club no one wants to be a member of (osteoporosis). We have ice cream, though.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:43:54pm

re: #146 Belafon

I don’t think Biden will have the chance to replace Wray at the FBI, but I suspect he would be the first to pick a Democrat for the job.

He certainly can fire the FBI director; Trump did without a second thought. But Biden won’t since he is trying to preserve the fiction of a return to normality, where both sides were sane and negotiated in good faith. So far, Wray has been ok in his role.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:44:12pm

re: #144 Crush White Nationalism

That seems reasonable to me.
Thanks to my acid reflux, I get plenty of calcium from Tums, so no ice cream excuse for me.

There’s always an excuse for ice cream.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:48:23pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How about it/it then? Since wingnuts so love to use “it” to refer to trans people, turn it back on them.

As I joked yesterday, those are also Pennywise’s pronouns.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:49:07pm

re: #160 ericblair

Whole buncha these being kicked around.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:50:10pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because Republicans would NEVER “unfairly redistribute” wealth.

SMH.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:52:24pm

re: #169 Belafon

As I joked yesterday, those are also Pennywise’s pronouns.

Michael Jackson’s were He/He.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:53:02pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohr whining

It will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need, and our air force has to have a bake-sale to buy a bomber.—Robert Fulghum

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:54:29pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:54:55pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:54:57pm

re: #170 No Malarkey!

Look at all that Republican corruption.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:56:39pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

She’s a conservative, thus axiomatically she’s a liar. If she was actually swatted, there would be camera footage from the police that she would put out instantly.

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2022 • 2:58:04pm

Intricate Beadwork Adorns Handmade Mardi Gras Suits by Demond Melancon
thisiscolossal.com

Simply Gorgeous!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:00:36pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How about it/it then? Since wingnuts so love to use “it” to refer to trans people, turn it back on them.

That could work. He is after all an evil clown.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:04:28pm

re: #160 ericblair

From that thread:

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:07:09pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From that thread:

[Embedded content]

And how many were businesses that should not have received those loans in the first place?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:08:50pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many were businesses that should not have received those loans in the first place?

Most of them, Katie.

/

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:09:39pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Most of them, Katie.

/

I’m sure all of the loans to GOP members of congress were corrupt.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:14:12pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

I’m sure all of the loans to GOP members of congress were corrupt.

You can see the names of their “businesses” and see what they are.

185
darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:18:17pm

Our living room already looks better…now to replace the carpet with wood, put a flush insert into the fireplace (ordered that today once I realized what it would take to ‘rebuild’ the fireplace as it’s brick all the way down), and put a nice flush tile along that part of the wall.

Sliding glass door gets replaced with a dutch door and a dog door next to it, and the counter comes out three feet to make a large island (already bought the marble for that).

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:21:32pm
187
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:24:56pm

re: #186 sagehen

I’m sure Beau will have some thoughts soon too.

188
Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:25:32pm

This diary does a good job of laying out all of the features of the debt reduction: dailykos.com.

189
PhillyPretzel  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:27:37pm

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

There is also yogurt. It is also very rich in calcium. There are some vegetables which have a lot of calcium in them too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:36:02pm

re: #189 PhillyPretzel

There is also yogurt. It is also very rich in calcium.

I try to have one yogurt daily. Wendell mentioned probiotic yogurt above but my sister had a bad reaction when she tried it for a few weeks(?); she said it took months to restore healthy functioning of her system so I have stayed with various flavors of Greek yogurt. We both suffer from lactose intolerance; hers seems much more intense than mine.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:37:57pm

re: #190 Hecuba’s daughter

I try to have one yogurt daily. Wendell mentioned probiotic yogurt above but my sister had a bad reaction when she tried it for a few weeks(?); she said it took months to restore healthy functioning of her system so I have stayed with various flavors of Greek yogurt. We both suffer from lactose intolerance; hers seems much more intense than mine.

I’ve developed lactose intolerance in the past few years. It’s an annoying nuisance.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:40:13pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

I’ve developed lactose intolerance in the past few years. It’s an annoying nuisance.

Does Lactaid work for you? It could deal with that nuisance.

193
darthstar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:40:15pm

I can see these things working well in Ukraine. But at some point a sheriff is going to decide he needs one to keep kids from filming his deputies, and the deputies are going to wind up zapping each other in the testicles with it.

Youtube Video

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nines09  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:43:02pm

So you just stumble across things….
16? 17?

Youtube Video

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:46:50pm

re: #12 Crush White Nationalism

He’s the guy who thinks you can sell your house to mermaids when the sea rises. He’s highly-educated, but he’s also an idiot.

The only thing a degree certifies is that the person has sat for a long time. - Peter F. Drucker

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:47:42pm

re: #192 Crush White Nationalism

Does Lactaid work for you? It could deal with that nuisance.

For me it helps quite a bit, but it’s imperfect, and the nuisance remains. Still, it would be much worse for me without Lactaid.

On the plus side, one of my bad dietary habits has been nixed. No more pints of ice cream.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:49:55pm
198
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:50:07pm
199
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:51:40pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s a modest proposal — every lawyer that files a patently frivolous political lawsuit gets immediately disbarred.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:51:46pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many were businesses that should not have received those loans in the first place?

Elaine Chou’s family business was one of the largest recipients.

201
Eventual Carrion  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:53:57pm

re: #140 dat_said

And more chocolate since it has anti-Inflammatory effects (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.)

And wine, just because.

202
Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 3:57:37pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:02:02pm

re: #202 Crush White Nationalism

TPP is short for Trump Polyp Polishers, right?

204
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:03:49pm

re: #201 Eventual Carrion

And wine, just because.

Is Bourbon acceptable?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:05:37pm
206
Eventual Carrion  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:06:51pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

Fossil fuel subsidies are a repayment for bribes - and it uses MY MONEY.

207
PhillyPretzel  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:08:27pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ronna has it wrong and Margaret and Helen have it right.

208
DodgerFan1988  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:09:24pm
209
TarHellion  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:11:11pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Sipping on a bit of Jim Beam on the back porch. With the ceiling fan going, all is good!

210
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:12:58pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, this one was really bad for me, too

R1JUaExTY1ErR0xJcTUvSllwOHJPNmRETEFtcmMvclg1S0JjcTFMN0lJOEFiVUF3dlBSQjNrR0R3MFRSRmlZaWUxaURJZU8zanVxd2FCQzM3RlEzWENnQ1FrU2pLSUZ6cVM2UnpMdkJwdVY1WVZCS1ZxYTc0eDFTWEVPZUY5VnBSVEloRzBEdmRHd09VM1p5bkpFNTRUUUlJV2MyekEwUjFVTFg2c3NvcVpKeUhXeEJ1TjlsZTJqWE9Hb04xS05XOjpDTMsIijhOhMVJXm5Eoxby

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:14:10pm

re: #207 PhillyPretzel

Ronna has it wrong and Margaret and Helen have it right.

Ronna is a Republican, therefore she is a liar.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:14:35pm
213
gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:16:05pm
214
PhillyPretzel  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:16:15pm

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

Those look yummy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:17:06pm

re: #213 gocart mozart

They aren’t even forgiving all debt. Just up to a set amount, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:21:32pm
217
Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:24:59pm

re: #199 EPR-radar

Here’s a modest proposal — every lawyer that files a patently frivolous political lawsuit gets immediately disbarred.

Then we eat ‘em?

218
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:25:13pm

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

They aren’t even forgiving all debt. Just up to a set amount, right?

$10K is the basic cap I’m seeing, and only for people with annual income 125K or less.

219
Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:25:39pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many were businesses that should not have received those loans in the first place?

Most

220
Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:27:08pm

re: #7 Crush White Nationalism

221
Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:27:58pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Bourbon acceptable?

/

Always.

In fact right this minute

222
nines09  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:29:01pm

I remember the first time I heard this in that smoky booze fueled Maples Motel in Center Valley Pa. I was 9.
It was crazy.

Music is your only friend until the end….

Later Lizards.

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:29:04pm
224
Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:33:36pm

Peter Serafinowicz and the South Park guys made a series of deepfake videos where Peter wears Trump’s face.

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:34:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:36:26pm

Moran weighs in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:36:54pm
228
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:40:31pm
229
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:43:06pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Haha. A Republican talking about “principles”. The only principles a Republican has are tax cuts and deregulation for the plutocrats, and white supremacy for the GOP base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:45:43pm
231
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:45:57pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump didn’t “botch” the pandemic response. It was deliberate.

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nines09  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:46:07pm

Perfect. Just. Perfect.

reddit.com

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:47:13pm

re: #232 nines09

I agree. That photo is perfect.

234
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:47:38pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally not a cult, says the woman who changed her legal name on the demand of Agolf Twittler.

235
Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:47:51pm

I think the student debt debate should also include the Biden administration’s success in reducing the deficit.

236
gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:54:29pm
237
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:55:52pm
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:56:10pm

re: #209 TarHellion

Sipping on a bit of Jim Beam on the back porch. With the ceiling fan going, all is good!

Know what goes good with bourbon?

Fresh, hot, punkin bread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:56:22pm
240
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 4:57:19pm
241
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:00:43pm

A whole lot of public ownership today on Twitter.

242
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:00:59pm
243
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:03:56pm
244
Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:04:33pm
With the fight over abortion rights looming large over the midterm elections, voters in Florida ousted two prominent anti-abortion elected officials in separate races on Tuesday.

Florida Rep. James Bush lost his reelection bid, a notable defeat for the sole Democrat in the state legislature who voted on a 15-week abortion ban and the anti-LGBTQ “Don’t Say Gay” bill.

His opponent, 37-year-old lawyer Ashley Gantt, ran on a platform focused on affordable housing, public education, and criminal justice reform. Gantt, an attorney and former public school teacher, has criticized Bush for siding with Republicans on the abortion ban and the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, which bars “classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity.”

“As a Black woman, I was offended when he voted to restrict my rights, our right to make decisions over our bodies,” she said last week. “As a former teacher, I was insulted that he voted to inject Tallahassee extremism into our classrooms and deny local control over our school systems.”

Gantt and Bush were the only two candidates vying for District 109. As the winner of the Democratic primary, Gantt is now the representative-elect.

Bush was first elected to the Florida state House in 1992. He was elected again in 2008, then in 2018. His penchant for supporting Republican-sponsored bills drew the ire of his fellow Democrats, some of whom publicly voiced their support for Gantt in the election; Democratic state Sen. Jason Pizzo recently accused him of “voting against Democratic values and kissing the Governor’s ass - all day, everyday.”

Florida voters also ousted Jared Smith, an incumbent circuit judge for Hillsborough County who gained notoriety for rejecting a teenager’s request for an abortion because her grades were low.

A Florida Judge Who Denied A Teen Girl An Abortion Because Of Her Grades Was Voted Out Of Office (Buzzfeed)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:07:22pm

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

246
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:09:13pm

re: #245 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

LOL at Republicans talking about honest work. Republicans are violently allergic to honest work.

247
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:11:34pm

We’re just seeing more of what has been under the hood for years.

The right-wing in this country exists because of resentment, so today the right wing talking heads really are pushing the resentment buttons.

248
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:14:14pm
249
The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:15:08pm
250
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:16:06pm
251
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:16:08pm
252
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:16:45pm

re: #232 nines09

Perfect. Just. Perfect.

reddit.com

Mastriano’s campaign bus rolls coal. What a douchecanoe.

253
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:20:55pm
254
Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:21:43pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

I hope “Go away and never come back is part of that settlement.”

Even if I didn’t use Twitter at all, I can see that having a douchecanoe like that running the place will be detrimental to society.

255
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:22:17pm

and I’m sure that works out really well when one gets swatted…

256
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:23:55pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you want to be anti-social, just don’t answer the doorbell. Answering with an AR-15 in hand is fucking nuts.

257
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:24:26pm

Tennessee Christian pastor praising God that women will die from Tennessee’s new abortion restrictions.

reddit.com (goes to r/ReligiousFruitcake)

And yes, he does praise the fact women will die.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:24:57pm

Where did Republicans get this talking point that minimum wage earners are the ones who will pay for other peoples’ student loans?

Where do they get all their other talking points? From deep within their ass crack.

259
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:26:26pm

more in the thread

260
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:28:51pm
261
wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:30:40pm

re: #107 Eventual Carrion

A usual 4/6 for me today also

[Embedded content]

With a nice whiff on top. I didn’t get one. This was a difficult 4.

Wordle 431 4/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
⬛⬛🟩⬛🟨
🟨⬛🟩🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:32:48pm
263
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:34:43pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

My neighbour who mows my lawn went to college. He still has college debt he’s paying. I will be sure to tell him tomorrow when I pay him to mow while we are on our trip to

1) Make sure he applies for the relief
2) Thank the Democratic Party for making this possible. He might be able to do something with that money.

264
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:34:55pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

99+% of the GOP are accomplices to the Trump crime spree, and 90+% of the mainstream media are incurable both-sides excusers of Republicans.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:36:28pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

99+% of the GOP are accomplices to the Trump crime spree, and 90+% of the mainstream media are incurable both-sides excusers of Republicans.

It’s a very large crime family.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:37:59pm

Killer Klowns From Outer Space - Music Video

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:38:14pm

re: #258 The Pie Overlord!

Where did Republicans get this talking point that minimum wage earners are the ones who will pay for other peoples’ student loans?

Where do they get all their other talking points? From deep within their ass crack.

It doesn’t have to make sense

Certainly not to us

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:39:24pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

It’s a very large crime family.

Imagine the result of thinking of the GOP as organized crime and applying the usual standards for such crimes. The mother of all RICO suits would be just the start.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:40:03pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not sure what movie/play/TV show they’re talking about, but that was a sublime insult for a response.

And “mostly racist?” Couldn’t even go as far as “I have a black friend” and had to weigh in with “cousins?”

270
EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:40:07pm

re: #266 Crush White Nationalism

“Episode 1: The 2024 GOP primary”

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:40:11pm

re: #267 Dangerman

It doesn’t have to make sense

Certainly not to us

Everything in MAGAT land is a “SIR” story…

Sourced
In
Rectum

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:40:26pm

Just finished reading my second — and definitely last — book by Louise Penny. Rachel liked her writing so I was willing to give her a second chance, especially since my first was the one she co-wrote with Hillary. Definitely not a fan!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:42:41pm

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My neighbour who mows my lawn went to college. He still has college debt he’s paying. I will be sure to tell him tomorrow when I pay him to mow while we are on our trip to

1) Make sure he applies for the relief
2) Thank the Democratic Party for making this possible. He might be able to do something with that money.

Which the whole point. If you’re paying so much for college debt that you can’t participate in the economy, the economy can’t grow. People can’t but houses, tvs, other stuff, all of which means the economy can’t grow.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:42:56pm

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not sure what movie/play/TV show they’re talking about, but that was a sublime insult for a response.

And “mostly racist?” Couldn’t even go as far as “I have a black friend” and had to weigh in with “cousins?”

Sandman.

In the original comic, Death was depicted as a white woman. Gaiman, the author of that comic was involved in creating the show too.

That smackdown is even better, I think, knowing that.

275
gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:44:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:44:36pm
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gwangung  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:45:02pm

re: #274 William Lewis

Sandman.

In the original comic, Death was depicted as a white woman. .

Also as a Chinese woman. And a black woman, too, I believe. But those yahoos seem to ignore that.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:46:40pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Jesus took jobs from commercial fisherman and bakers with that miracle, and urged select fishermen to quit their jobs -and families, and follow him. Tough to find a job in a miracle based economy 😎

279
William Lewis  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:47:12pm

re: #277 gwangung

Also as a Chinese woman. And a black woman, too, I believe. But those yahoos seem to ignore that.

Been a long time so I didn’t remember that but from him that makes sense.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2022 • 5:55:36pm
281
A Three Hour Tour  Aug 24, 2022 • 6:01:18pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

Imagine the result of thinking of the GOP as organized crime and applying the usual standards for such crimes. The mother of all RICO suits would be just the start.

Yeah, but invoking RICO against the GOP would probably annoy Popehat.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:34:45pm

re: #280 Belafon

Would be nice to see Twatter ban these assholes (k*w*f*rms), finally. Would also be nice to to see Cloudflare deplatform them as well. But, shit in one hand and make a wish in the otherand see what one gets filled faster and all that.

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steve_davis  Aug 24, 2022 • 7:36:23pm

re: #218 EPR-radar

$10K is the basic cap I’m seeing, and only for people with annual income 125K or less.

flack on msnbc was saying something about how 90% of it will go to folks making less than 75k a year.


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