A newbie’s guide to nasty folks, stalkers and a history of banned types
Occasionally, new readers here will see references to various stalkers of LGF. I’m making this post as a guide to new folks should you see such references and wonder what we are talking about. I invite anyone who comments on this to share any fun stories about these lost souls they care to share.
I’m not making this post so much as to dish (well a little) but more to fill in some history for those who might not know.
The first thing to say, is that the stalkers really are stalkers. How seriously you take them likely depends on any number of circumstances, but they have tried very hard to find the real world identity of various LGF posters and have certainly issued threats in addition to endless screeds of vile and insulting mails. Vile and insulting means the worst sort of middle school insults, incoherent rage and genuine hatred. They have seriously threatened the life and limb of Charles and others.
So where did they come from? Well once upon a time, a boy demented troll loved a girl demented troll, who drank during pregnancy very much… More seriously, it started when a group of very unpleasant folks misunderstood the nature of LGF.
After 9-11, this blog posted much about Islamic terrorists and the various threats aimed at America and Israel from the Islamic world. Those threats were, and still are, very real. This, on the one hand, placed this blog at odds with certain left wing sorts who were apologists for Islamic extremism and very anti-Israel. This also attracted various far right sorts to this site like moths to a flame.
There is nothing wrong with being conservative. There is an awful lot wrong with becoming the very things you claim to hate - as in a drooling, genocide preaching fanatic.
Early on, Charles, our gracious host, had made connections with other bloggers who were involved in blogging about the dangers of radical Islam - people like Pam Geller and allahpundit to name a few. Charles however, was never of the let’s kill them all mentality. Charles also was always willing to reach out to the left and talk with them too. He was one of the founders of Pajamas media - which was envisioned as a right meets left and debates and discusses sort of site. He was never a racist or a bigot. When he discovered these people sliding into true craziness and actually siding with bona fide neo nazis like Vlaams Belang, Neo Confederates, white supremacists, Christian Dominionists and other truly scary and repugnant sorts, Charles left in disgust and voiced very strongly that he had no desire to be involved with such repulsive things. Pajamas media mutated into a cesspool of uber right craziness.
This angered the crazy right wing contingent here to no end. As political events moved forward at home, and the American right began getting even more crazy, the unpleasant sorts at LGF were even more shocked to find that Charles does not care for sexism, homophobia, attempting to destroy the Establishment clause etc… either.
Another split was when Charles and other posters began arguing that yes indeed, Evolution really did happen. Many people here were shocked that their creationist views were challenged by hard science - not only challenged, but shown to be foolish and irrational. A similar thing happened with AGW. Charles started out as a skeptic on that issue, but came to realize that just as the right lied about evolution routinely, they were even more grievously lying about AGW with many of the same tactics and many of the same marketing firms and think tanks. Again, hard science won out.
This created a diaspora of people who hate LGF and hate Charles and certain posters here with an almost religious fervor. Some left on their own, others were banned after outbursts. Ever since, they have carried a childish grudge. They have their own little web sites now where the main purpose seems to be providing an echo-chamber for like minded genocide preaching, history revising, anti-science, conspiracy mongering psychosis and bitching about how much they hate us.
Mostly they bitch about us and pretend to be aggrieved. Many love to create sock puppets, which are accounts under other names, only to “flounce” which is to write a long essay about how much they hate it here and flounce off. It is a big badge of pride for them to attempt this. After all, they managed to get an angry screed written about how betrayed they feel, that Charles was never a lunatic like them, and how all the liberals here don’t appreciate how special their mad rants are etc…
And the rants are mad. They are not just angry, spiteful and full of a desperate almost adolescent venom, but the standard mix of racism, sexism, homophobia, conspiracy mongering, anti-science and general teabag nuttiness.
One should also know about the socks. A favorite pastime of stalkers is whining about how they were ohhh so unfairly banned from here. Writing hateful crap under a second or third or fourth name will get you banned in a shot. You can read elaborate fabrications of their “innocence” over and over. “There are eight of us living in our apartment and we share the same computer - me, my wife, my cousins Elmer and Larry and our four pet possums. Well Baxter the possum got on one day, and I didn’t do anything….”
So as a guide, here are some notable stalker personalities:
Rodan, AKA the Rodent: In addition to openly calling for the murder of all Muslims on numerous occasions and congratulating Serbian war criminals, he has an insane fixation with his precious Latin blood. He believes that everyone is racist if they disagree with him and has a remarkable angry victim complex. He likes to start false internet rumors that people are pedophiles, gays and nazis. He believes strangely that Latinos are white and takes vast umbrage at the idea that they are not Caucasian and that it is racist to deny their whiteness - this is because he does not consider those “tainted” by native American blood to be real Latins and he does not want his whiteness challenged. He also believes that this is not racist. He is an alcoholic who routinely posts about how drunk he is and generally acts like an evil besotted clown. Watch out for his Columbian family. They will hurt you and all. In many ways he is the most like Achmed the dead terrorist.
Savage: Savage is perhaps the brightest of the Stalkers. That is why his conspiracy theories are the most elaborate and his hate speech the most full of dog whistles that almost sound justifiable. Make no doubt though, the man is a lunatic who sees commies under every bed - which he believes are the same as Nazis and he has an angry conspiracy theory for everything. He is racist of the variety that tries to justify naked hate.
Snork: Snork is a failed engineer who has routinely shown that he does not understand basic calculus or thermodynamics. That is probably why he failed at being an engineer. He is their “scientist.” He routinely denies AGW and anything to do with any environmentally friendly policy. He is also a birther and a deather as well as an historical revisionist and the sort of “scientist” who is OK with creationism. In other words, he is an an off the wall crank who failed in his chosen profession and spins hateful conspiracy theories as sops to soothe the deep realization of his own failures.
Buzzsaw Monkey: Buzzy is perhaps the greatest disapointment. He could be rational at times, but was banned for the most hateful homophobic and sexist garbage. Since leaving here, he has graduated into a full scale drooling conspiracy theorist.
Bunk x: Bunk is the slavering lapdog of the group pining for the approval of the larger members. Amongst a pack of overly macho beta males who routinely brandish how tough they are, he is the gamma dog licking their feet. Truly a delightful toadie.
Formercorpsman: This is a morbidly obese man who claims to have once been a marine. This is unlikely since his man breasts are so large that his nipples must be the size of furry dinner plates. He is a standard gun loving, hate speech writer.
Iron Fist: This is another beta who compensates for his lack of manhood by routinely writing about guns, guns and more guns. He is tough don’t you know?! Don’t mess with him! He is very tough. He is also a ninja. Watch out. He also really hates women.
TFK: Tax free killer is a Vietnam veteran with very serious mental problems. He is actually tragic. He has a particular issue with John Kerry taken to the extent of fetishism.
Goddess of the Classroom: She is a Christian darn it, and does not want to be corrupted by sinful talk of evolution or not hating gays or being OK with women who have and enjoy orgasms. And yes, she teaches kids somewhere. She demands “constant vigilance” from concerned parents and teachers to keep “liberalism and corruption” out of text books that would influence young minds. I am not close to exaggerating.
Coldwarrior: This one is a former soldier who wishes he had more chances to kill people. He writes hateful and violent fantasies about killing endless enemies. He openly espouses the forcible removal of all Muslims from America, denial of religious freedoms and has a general desire these days to see a second civil war in the US where his forces of Justice remove all the “progressive nazi tranzi communist cancer” in America. Don’t ask him to define those words.
M: M is the grand dam of the hate site. As one of the few females there, she enjoys the worshipful adoration of sexually deprived, obese, aging single men. She is the sort of woman who enjoys such attention, so that should say something about her real life attractiveness. Her writing is just as hateful, conspiracy laced and deluded as the others however.
Rix: is another one with a wolf for his nic. He is a great example of many others, the ohh so tough “alpha” male in his own mind with delusions of warriorhood. In reality, he is another teabag loony who loves to pick fights from the anonymity of his keyboard while making impotent threat displays as a sop to his real world lack of manhood.
Possum: Possum thinks that women are asking for rape. Since they asked for it, he believes they deserve it. He has had multiple socks over here and takes a perverse pleasure in being a douche of a sneaky kind. Otherwise, his entire raison d’etre seems to revolve around currying favor with the other stalkers by mocking us. He does not generally froth on the usual subjects to the same extent, and is in general, seen as a joke by his compatriots. This is why he tries so very hard to gain popularity by being exceptionally disgusting over here. He briefly flounced from the hate site after Bunk edited some of his drivel, then was laughed at by them, and then came crawling back. If Bunk is the gamma dog this one is the delta. In a world of imaginary wolves and dragons, this one is still just a possum. And just tonight, he came on as a sock appearance to abuse Iceweasel. It is curious that most of his socks are him pretending to be girls however. I suspect that he is deeply closeted.
Nil Stooge: This one is so obsessed with this site that he keeps stats of every poster’s karma and rankings with trends. I don’t have a good read on nil stooge. On the one hand, the usual victim complex and conspiracy mongering is there, but on the other, his statistician like way of obsessing over us is truly creepy. Of course, his stats don’t make very much sense. It is not as if his percentages add to one or as if his trends are well labeled. This does mark him as a simple dork as opposed to an intellect.
There are others who are lesser players, but equally pathetic. They do read here regularly to feed their near fetishistic hatred of everything to do with this site. They are bonded together by intense animus - if undefined. Those are the stalkers, sometimes called “our fan club” sometimes called the village of the banned.