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1 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 12, 2010 6:41:59pm

Thanks for posting this. Glenn Beck is reinventing the old Birch Society conspiracies and counts on the fact that nobody even remembers where this stuff comes from anymore. There's a lot of important background to this stuff and it's very important to understand that Beck and the Tea Parties are repeating a very serious historical mistake. I can understand the McCarthy era with the looming threat of the Soviet Union but relaunching these conspiracies today is just insanely stupid.

2 Michael Orion Powell  Fri, Nov 12, 2010 7:41:36pm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

re: #1 Killgore Trout

Yes, and being hardly a progressive, this is a group that William F. Buckley kicked out of the conservative movement.

3 FreedomMoon  Fri, Nov 12, 2010 9:14:56pm

The right would vilify and persecute me for making the connection, but as it has been previously mentioned here at LGF and other progressive sites, this whole kooky notion that we need to purge the unpatriotic and demonize the "un-American" is in no way related to the tempestuous economic times that we live in or to the new policies that are (trying to be) being enacted, but to the fact that we have a black president. If Obama was Bill Clinton none of these resurgent conspiracy movements would be going on--it's all a ruse dressed (not so inconspicuously) to make us think that Obama is a pinko communist, when clearly there is NO evidence to support that baseless accusation. At least in the 1950's there were actual (powerful) communist countries at war with us, who actively exported their economic philosophies and hell, there was even a communist party trying to send nominees to the white house. I'm not justifying in anyway the scare tactics promulgated in that era, but I do give the loons back then a little more slack; it's clear Beck and Co. are trying to disguise their racist intentions and painting them pink.

4 andres  Sat, Nov 13, 2010 9:53:38am

re: #3 tacuba14

It's an interesting thought, but ultimately I think we'd still see this rhetoric under a Bill/Hillary Clinton, or anyone else.

What may cause a difference is that some of the stupidity we've heard so far wouldn't have gone far (Bill Clinton a sekret muslim? Ha! Try spinning that!). But these people (I try to not connect them to the actual, sane [and seemingly smaller] sane right) would latch onto something else (Bill Clinton wasting 200 gajillion dollars per day on a trip? Add a war ship full of interns, and we'd have a new rumor!)

5 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 13, 2010 11:47:40am

Benson also believed the weird Bircher conspiracy theories that President Eisenhower was part of a Communist conspiracy. Don't understand why he served in his administration. The guy was definitely a wack job so it's hardly surprising that Glenn here is praising his words. Typical.

6 Michael Orion Powell  Sat, Nov 13, 2010 12:47:41pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

It is strange. The Birch conspiracy of Eisenhower being a communist infiltrator is so ridiculous and absurd that it, frankly, should make any rational person burst out laughing.

7 Michael Orion Powell  Sat, Nov 13, 2010 12:51:28pm

re: #4 andres

It's an interesting thought, but ultimately I think we'd still see this rhetoric under a Bill/Hillary Clinton, or anyone else.

What may cause a difference is that some of the stupidity we've heard so far wouldn't have gone far (Bill Clinton a sekret muslim? Ha! Try spinning that!). But these people (I try to not connect them to the actual, sane [and seemingly smaller] sane right) would latch onto something else (Bill Clinton wasting 200 gajillion dollars per day on a trip? Add a war ship full of interns, and we'd have a new rumor!)

Clinton had almost everything in the world thrown at him, and he was a Southern white boy. What wasn't thrown at him was the constant questioning of citizenship and tying with this or that radical black organization.

8 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Nov 13, 2010 9:43:10pm

Link to clip of Ezra Taft Benson addressing students just links to Trout's article...?

9 Michael Orion Powell  Mon, Nov 15, 2010 12:02:15pm

re: #8 000G

Corrected it.


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