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1 Joanne  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 3:12:12pm

Yes, the guy who's been POTUS for more than three years, who's handled financial disaster, bin Laden, Detroit, healthcare and a host of other things is TOTALLY unknown.

2008 called. It wants its bullshit back.

2 Destro  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 7:09:25pm

re: #1 Joanne (JustJay)

The right wing has been calling Obama gay. Kind of reminds me of the movie "Idiocracy" where when the time traveling soldier spoke in a measured tone the inbred future idiots thought he sounded like a 'fag'. Either that or that is some sort of racist meme that can't stand a black man as THE MAN and so they try and smear him as being gay?

3 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 7:31:21pm

Why would I care who the President used to date?

I can't name a single ex-girlfriend of any recent president. I have no idea who George W. dated before Laura. I'm sure Bill Clinton saw a whole lot of girls as a young man (and after, let's skip the obvious jokes). I don't know their names. Hell, Reagan had a whole first marriage, didn't he? And I have no clue who that was with.

The reason for this is pretty simple: I DON'T CARE. NO ONE CARES. NOT EVEN MICHELLE.

4 Destro  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 7:50:33pm

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

Why would I care who the President used to date?

I can't name a single ex-girlfriend of any recent president. I have no idea who George W. dated before Laura. I'm sure Bill Clinton saw a whole lot of girls as a young man (and after, let's skip the obvious jokes). I don't know their names. Hell, Reagan had a whole first marriage, didn't he? And I have no clue who that was with.

The reason for this is pretty simple: I DON'T CARE. NO ONE CARES. NOT EVEN MICHELLE.

It's dogwhistle stuff - questioning who Obama dated is implying Obama is gay, a big rightwingnut issue.

5 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 8:50:40pm

re: #4 Destro

It's dogwhistle stuff - questioning who Obama dated is implying Obama is gay, a big rightwingnut issue.

It actually isn't. D'Souza's goal is actually more sophisticated, and more viscous: He wants to show that Obama started off dating white women and only later chose to adopt 'blackness' as a central theme of his identity. D'Souza's attacks are all aimed at 'proving' that Barack Obama has a "Kenyan Anti-Colonialist Ideology". That aim is behind every one of D'Souza's attacks, and has been since he first rolled out his meme two years ago with his book "The Roots of Barack Obama's Rage". Needless to say that book, like his film, is a worthless piece of drek.

6 Destro  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 9:01:29pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

It actually isn't. D'Souza's goal is actually more sophisticated, and more viscous: He wants to show that Obama started off dating white women and only later chose to adopt 'blackness' as a central theme of his identity. D'Souza's attacks are all aimed at 'proving' that Barack Obama has a "Kenyan Anti-Colonialist Ideology". That aim is behind every one of D'Souza's attacks, and has been since he first rolled out his meme two years ago with his book "The Roots of Barack Obama's Rage". Needless to say that book, like his film, is a worthless piece of drek.

Sadly, I agree with you. In the end it is dog whistle stuff. Coded language, etc.

7 thecommodore  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 9:09:43pm

There is an "Obama is gay" wingnut meme, though. Google Larry Sinclair, who has been pushing a story wbere Obama had his gay lover, the cboir director at Triniy United, murdered. As if he were Obama's Vince Foster.

8 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 9:59:09pm

re: #7 thecommodore

There is an "Obama is gay" wingnut meme, though. Google Larry Sinclair, who has been pushing a story wbere Obama had his gay lover, the cboir director at Triniy United, murdered. As if he were Obama's Vince Foster.

Oh, I agree there is such a meme. It's just that Dinesh D’Souza has never given any signs of being part of it. His meme is even nastier, IMO.

9 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 10:02:48pm

re: #6 Destro

Sadly, I agree with you. In the end it is dog whistle stuff. Coded language, etc.

D'Souza doesn't really talk in code, though. He's pretty clear in what he means by "Kenyan Anti-Colonialist" and it is a very hostile definition.

At times I wonder if the anti-Indian sentiments that sometimes surfaced in African anti-colonialism play a role in D'Souza's depiction, causing him to see what isn't there (Kenya, unlike Uganda, did not expel its Indian population after independence).

10 Destro  Tue, Aug 7, 2012 10:38:16pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

D'Souza doesn't really talk in code, though. He's pretty clear in what he means by "Kenyan Anti-Colonialist" and it is a very hostile definition.

At times I wonder if the anti-Indian sentiments that sometimes surfaced in African anti-colonialism play a role in D'Souza's depiction, causing him to see what isn't there (Kenya, unlike Uganda, did not expel its Indian population after independence).

It could be the Indian vs African colonial conflict motivating D'Souza's venom or he could be doing it for the money on behalf of a right wing think tank.

11 sagehen  Wed, Aug 8, 2012 12:28:13am

re: #3 SanFranciscoZionist

Why would I care who the President used to date?

I can't name a single ex-girlfriend of any recent president. I have no idea who George W. dated before Laura. I'm sure Bill Clinton saw a whole lot of girls as a young man (and after, let's skip the obvious jokes). I don't know their names. Hell, Reagan had a whole first marriage, didn't he? And I have no clue who that was with.

The reason for this is pretty simple: I DON'T CARE. NO ONE CARES. NOT EVEN MICHELLE.

Reagan's first wife was Jane Wyman; you might remember her as the mom on "Falcon Crest".

I've been led to believe that people my parents age remember her for more serious roles.

12 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 8, 2012 4:04:44am

What the fuck does a hack like Dinesh D'Sousa know? Coming from the ideology that nearly brought us Sarah Palin, this is goddamn rich.


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