Pages

Sign InRegisterForgotten password?

RebelmouseTwitterFacebook
Advertisement

23 comments

Jump to bottom
1 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 6:03:38pm

Pretending now that the Syrian conflict hasn't been a major news story for many months.

Amazingly weak.

2 Flavia  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 7:46:57pm

re: #1 Ayeless in Ghazi

Pretending now that the Syrian conflict hasn't been a major news story for many months.

Amazingly weak.

No, what's amazingly weak is the reaction to Israel's self-defense as opposed to the Syrian massacres: which one has everyone hysterically rushed to stop....?

3 Destro  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 7:56:54pm

re: #2 Flavia

re: #1 Ayeless in Ghazi

No, what's amazingly weak is the reaction to Israel's self-defense as opposed to the Syrian massacres: which one has everyone hysterically rushed to stop....?

That's because Israel has little to fear from Hamas who was basically firing upgraded bottle rockets at Israel (most of the missiles fired by Hamas were without warheads to increase ranges). The fact that Israel has nukes means it plans to wipe out whole populations if threatened on the Syrian regime's level.

4 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 8:33:30pm

re: #3 Destro

re: #1 Ayeless in Ghazi

That's because Israel has little to fear from Hamas who was basically firing upgraded bottle rockets at Israel (most of the missiles fired by Hamas were without warheads to increase ranges). The fact that Israel has nukes means it plans to wipe out whole populations if threatened on the Syrian regime's level.

A lot of assumption on your part, coupled with a casual dismissal of the threat to Israeli civilians. Nice morals you entertain Destro. Real nice. Reminds me of something Max Blumenthal might say a readership of angry liberals who are shocked, shocked I tell you, that Israel had the audacity to open fire on Hamas.

5 Destro  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 10:06:12pm

re: #4 Eclectic Infidel

I was not in anyway commenting on morality of Israel's response here.
What I am saying is that Israel could afford a lighter touch than the Syrian govt response to their insurgents because Hamas is not as big a threat to Israel the way the Free Syrian Army is a threat to the Syrian govt. Nukes exist for this very purpose. All countries that have a nuclear arsenal, have by that fact declared they will wipe out whole populations if their national existance is threatened.

6 Ziggy Standard  Thu, Nov 22, 2012 4:10:31pm

Lol sliv your shitstained page got 'unfeatured'.

There's a reason for that.

7 Ziggy Standard  Thu, Nov 22, 2012 4:20:38pm
8 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 5:59:54pm

re: #3 Destro

Please provide any proof that most of the rockets had the warhead removed.

Calling them upgraded bottle rockets would be more laughable if people weren't getting maimed out there.

9 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 6:55:35pm

Why isn't Alice Walker on a boat to Syria to protest this?

I do get the feeling that the Gazans act up any time some other conflict in the mid-east starts getting attention.

10 Destro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 11:16:46pm

re: #8 Obdicut

Please provide any proof that most of the rockets had the warhead removed.

Calling them upgraded bottle rockets would be more laughable if people weren't getting maimed out there.

Sure, since you were polite to ask.....

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Some Gaza rockets stripped of explosives to fly further: Israelis

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Some of the Palestinian rockets fired far into Israel during the Gaza flare-up have lacked powerful warheads because they were stripped down to increase range and spread alarm over a wider population, Israeli security sources said on Sunday.

...snip...

The official said "not a few" of the rockets reaching Tel Aviv and cities closer to Gaza were designed for much shorter ranges but had been shorn of their weighty warheads so that they flew further.

"They're pipes, basically," said the official, who declined to be identified.

11 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Nov 24, 2012 3:14:30pm

re: #9 ReamWorks SKG

Why isn't Alice Walker on a boat to Syria to protest this?

She only hates Jews.

12 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 5:38:15am

re: #10 Destro

Sure, since you were polite to ask.....

They're a 'covering barrage'. Destro. The stripped down rockets are intended to be launched immediately before the Fajr-5s, the larger rockets with heavy payloads (90 kg of HE). The idea being to launch a large number of smaller rockets to help 'hide' the bigger rockets that represent the real threat. And Fajr-5s are a threat, I assure you. 90 kilos of high-explosive is enough to blast down a concrete apartment wall and kill everyone within said apartment. If it impacts in the street, its got a kill-radius of around least 25 meters.

No, Hamas isn't "lobbing bottle rockets".

13 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 9:17:54am

re: #10 Destro

I asked for proof that 'most' were, Destro. Do you understand the difference between 'most' and 'a few'?

14 Destro  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 11:42:18am

re: #13 Obdicut

I asked for proof that 'most' were, Destro. Do you understand the difference between 'most' and 'a few'?

That was not even an attempt at pettifogging but shear ignorance on your part.

Directly from the article (did you overlook that?):

The official said "not a few" of the rockets reaching Tel Aviv and cities closer to Gaza were designed for much shorter ranges but had been shorn of their weighty warheads so that they flew further.

"NOT A FEW" synonymous with "many".

Or do you have another way of translating that comment?

15 Destro  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 11:44:45am

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Where in the article I posted or any article for that matter is what you just made up cited?

Again from the article:

The official said "not a few" of the rockets reaching Tel Aviv and cities closer to Gaza were designed for much shorter ranges but had been shorn of their weighty warheads so that they flew further.

That's reality vs spin.

16 EiMitch  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 10:07:21pm

re: #3 Destro

That's because Israel has little to fear from Hamas who was basically firing upgraded bottle rockets at Israel (most of the missiles fired by Hamas were without warheads to increase ranges). The fact that Israel has nukes means it plans to wipe out whole populations if threatened on the Syrian regime's level.

First, I'm going out on a limb to guess that part about nukes is why your comment got down-dinged. A geographically small nation like Israel nuking a population in their backyard is a darkly hilarious notion of a Pyrrhic victory. If Israel nuked another country, they'd still get the fallout, literally. Israel nuking the Palestinians is like shooting oneself in the head just to hit the guy standing next to them.

I won't get sucked into splitting hairs over the objective danger posed by the rockets fired by Hamas. Instead, I'll remind everyone that the rockets were meant to terrorize Israel. Apparently, it worked. Hamas clearly wanted to provoke the Israelis, so mission accomplished. If anyone in this scenario is a villain, its Hamas, not the IDF.

Also remember that Israel didn't just storm into Gaza. They performed airstrikes on the rockets' launch-sites and issued an ultimatum that boiled down to "knock it off, or else." Is that not a measured response?

17 EiMitch  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 10:09:48pm

For the record, I do agree that making a big deal out of Israel's response to Hamas rockets seems out of proportion after seemingly yawning over Syria's civil war. One would think the higher body count would stir the most passionate responses. But nope. It all comes down to brand recognition. We're used to picking sides in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. For all the outrage people showed, the world was secretly hoping the familiar rival gladiators would ramp-up the bloody spectacle we've come to expect.

So really, the "protestors" are actually tailgaters. Try to tell me with a straight face that the "f*** you jew" woman's level of craziness doesn't belong in a stadium. Is it sad that we're treating real bloodshed like a spectator sport? Yes, it is. You can take the people out of the Colosseum, but you can't take the Colosseum out of the people. We want to see blood, dammit!

18 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:25:26am

re: #15 Destro

Where in the article I posted or any article for that matter is what you just made up cited?

Again from the article:

That's reality vs spin.

It isn't in that article. I applied what I've learned elsewhere about tactics to defeat missile defense. The analysis was my own, not the product of a news agency.

19 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:27:56am

re: #17 EiMitch

For the record, I do agree that making a big deal out of Israel's response to Hamas rockets seems out of proportion after seemingly yawning over Syria's civil war. One would think the higher body count would stir the most passionate responses. But nope. It all comes down to brand recognition. We're used to picking sides in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. For all the outrage people showed, the world was secretly hoping the familiar rival gladiators would ramp-up the bloody spectacle we've come to expect.

So really, the "protestors" are actually tailgaters. Try to tell me with a straight face that the "f*** you jew" woman's level of craziness doesn't belong in a stadium. Is it sad that we're treating real bloodshed like a spectator sport? Yes, it is. You can take the people out of the Colosseum, but you can't take the Colosseum out of the people. We want to see blood, dammit!

I don't think her actions and words can be likened to those of a fan of gladiatorial games in old Rome. She wasn't there to be entertained, she was there because she really hates Israel. Hatred is what drives her, not a desire for some fun.

20 Destro  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:26:44am

re: #16 EiMitch

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

I am on record as being against the USA backing the Free Syrian Army's rebellion (why is it OK for the Sunnis to rise up in Syria but if they do so in Gaza the USA hates that?) and I am against the Hamas organization's attacks on Israel. And I am against the blockade of Gaza because blockades and economic collective punishment plays into the hands of extremist organizations like Hamas.

The people of Gaza react the way I expect all humans to react if they live under a blockage and economic sanctions.

21 Destro  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:31:48am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

I think Hamas is firing what they have and what they have are mostly primitive rockets that are in many cases just hollow tubes only.

They are the equivalent of throwing rocks at soldiers who can shoot back with live bullets that is why the death and damage toll is so lopsided. Of course Hamas was doing this to provoke and that idiot Netanyahu took the bait.

The worse thing for Hamas would have been if Israel showed restraint.

22 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 9:54:15am

re: #21 Destro

I think Hamas is firing what they have and what they have are mostly primitive rockets that are in many cases just hollow tubes only.

They are the equivalent of throwing rocks at soldiers who can shoot back with live bullets that is why the death and damage toll is so lopsided. Of course Hamas was doing this to provoke and that idiot Netanyahu took the bait.

The worse thing for Hamas would have been if Israel showed restraint.

A thrown rock can be lethal. Moreover, Hamas clearly can make homemade explosives and earlier rockets contained HE, as did the BM-21 and Fajr series rockets they fired during the recent fighting.

One other thing you need to remember: Israel doesn't know what's in those rockets when they're fired and must assume they are lethal rounds. It's the same thing as cases where a thief used a "key gun" to break into a home, only to be shot dead by a homeowner who thought the thief had a firearm in hand. The homeowner in such cases has always been vindicated legally in the US, as he could not have safely waited to find out if the thief's threat was real or not. It's the same situation with Israel.

23 EiMitch  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 11:19:20am

re: #21 Destro

The worse thing for Hamas would have been if Israel showed restraint.

If striking the launch sites and telling Hamas to knock it off instead of just storming straight in doesn't count as restraint, then what the hell does? Turning the other cheek and pretending it ain't happening?

Oh, wait! They didn't go in after all. So doesn't send your argument right out the f***ing window? "But, but... But thats only because of international pressure and negotiations." Ah, but that would've been after-the-fact had Israel stormed right in rather than issued an ultimatum and waited. So who is the idiot?

And as for Syria, I hadn't forgotten your opinion on the matter. I was making a statement about the general public's double-standards. Pay a bit more attention to context next time.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

^ back to top ^

Turn off ads by subscribing!
For about 33 cents a day, our subscription option turns off all advertisements at LGF!
Read more...

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published in our weblog, unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form
LGF Pages Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title and text already filled in.

Last updated: 2013-05-23 5:45 pm PDT

Recent Pages
Randall Gross
I-5 Bridge Collapse Survivor: ‘You Hold On’
Dan Sligh and his wife were in their pickup truck on Interstate 5 heading to a camping trip when a bridge before them disappeared in a "big puff of dust." "I hit the brakes and we went off," Sligh told reporters from a hospital, adding he "saw the water approaching ... you hold on as tight as you can." Slight, his wife and ...

43 seconds ago
Views: 17 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
Heywood Jabloeme
Exclusive: Congressman Preps Bill to End Terror War Authority
In the wake of President Obama's big speech about restraining the war on terrorism, a member of the House intelligence committee is working on a bill to undo the basic authorities to wage it. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) is preparing a piece of legislation that would "sunset" the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF), a foundational law passed in the days after ...

3 hours, 51 minutes ago
Views: 70 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
chadu
JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR “Lepers.flv”
Ignore all the comments on the YouTube site Between Jesus Christ Superstar and Jesus of Montreal (check out those movies!), I got a better feel for a blessed man than some weird-ass demigod...

7 hours, 3 minutes ago
Views: 86 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 2 • Rating: 1
Skip Intro
Rebranding, Continued. Governor Can’t Find a Single Latino in Pennsylvania to Work for Him
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett (R-PA) brushed away a question about Latinos working in his administration during a roundtable discussion at The Union League in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on Friday, telling the moderator, "If you can find us one let me know": MODERATOR: Do you have staff members that are Latino? CORBETT: No, we do not have any staff members in there. If you can ...

19 hours, 24 minutes ago
Views: 205 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 1 • Rating: 3
Political Atheist
Tesla Pays Off All $465M in Federal Loans 9 Years Early
Tesla haters just lost another quiver in their dwindling arsenal. The upstart electric automaker has paid off the entirety of its Department of Energy loan -- a whopping $451.8M -- and did it nine years ahead of schedule. "I would like to thank the Department of Energy and the members of Congress and their staffs that worked hard to create the [Advanced Technology ...

21 hours, 20 minutes ago
Views: 145 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 4
Vicious Babushka
$40 for Case of Bottled Water? The Free Market at Work in OK
More: $40 for Case of Bottled Water? 'Preying' on Oklahoma Tornado Victims Investigators with the Oklahoma Attorney General's office have already uncovered evidence of businesses taking advantage of the recent tornado's devastation by price-gouging in the weather-ravaged region, including a grocery store accused of charging consumers $40 for a case of water. Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt told ABC News that 30 investigators from ...

22 hours, 45 minutes ago
Views: 313 • Comments: 7
Tweets: 1 • Rating: 3
Bob Dillon
New Method for Producing Clean Hydrogen
Duke University engineers have developed a novel method for producing clean hydrogen, which could prove essential to weaning society off of fossil fuels and their environmental implications. While hydrogen is ubiquitous in the environment, producing and collecting molecular hydrogen for transportation and industrial uses is expensive and complicated. Just as importantly, a byproduct of most current methods of producing hydrogen is carbon monoxide, ...

23 hours, 3 minutes ago
Views: 141 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 2
FemNaziBitch
POINT: Unraveling Nice-Nasty Christianity
"Christians should stop wielding religion as a tool of oppression, write Evette Dionne at Clutch magazine." The following is from a link from this article at The Root: YouTube She continued, "That is not a godly energy you're giving off now! I don't understand being so saturated in a dogma and a theology that you would not embrace your sister in her deepest need ...

1 day, 15 hours ago
Views: 291 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
thecommodore
WAPO’s Glenn Kessler Gives Three “Pinocchios” To Claim of Doctored Emails
It has long been part of the Washington game for officials to discredit a news story by playing up errors in a relatively small part of it. Pfeiffer gives the impression that GOP operatives deliberately tried to "smear the president" with false, doctored e-mails. But the reporters involved have indicated they were told by their sources that these were summaries, taken from notes ...

2 days, 15 hours ago
Views: 401 • Comments: 4
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 4
kristina37
We know how to reduce the incidence of common medical conditions but …
Obesity is on the rise-- as is the incidence of Heart Disease, Diabetes, Stroke and various forms of Cancer. And, shockingly, diseases that had in the past begun in old age are now appearing at much earlier ages. A groundbreaking scientific study showed how easily (and inexpensively) the rate of occurrence of these and other serious illness could be greatly reduced-- but this information ...

3 days, 15 hours ago
Views: 258 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
 Frank says:

Winos don't march.