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1 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:47:05am

And, once again, this is why we need a basic national income so that all adults have an income at least up to poverty level. The best way to push wages up is when employers have to compete for employees. Sending every working-age adult $1,000 in cash every month will not only goose demand, which will cause hiring to meet the need for extra goods and services, it will allow employees to walk away from crap jobs until employers make it attractive enough through higher pay and better working conditions and benefits to make working there worthwhile for people who are no longer desperate for any job they can get.

2 BusyMonster  Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:43:42pm

The glibness of these people is getting so out of control, they don’t seem to realize what miserly, greedy, craven assholes they look like to everyone else.

I have no desire to eat McDonald’s food ever again, but even less to accidentally pick it up in a moment of weakness. Fuck them. Fuck them in the face. With a rake.

3 freetoken  Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:53:29pm
eat smaller meals

That is not bad advice. Health wise it is probably spot on. It’d be even better to avoid McDonald’s products, but I doubt their website would mention that part.

4 Skip Intro  Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:25:37pm

Our largest corporations have all but recreated 19th century laissez-faire capitalism, where the workers have no rights, can be paid a pittance, and fired for any reason, including for being injured doing their job.

When the RW talks about American Exceptionalism, this is what they’re referring to.

5 thecommodore  Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:38:19pm

re: #1 aagcobb

And, once again, this is why we need a basic national income so that all adults have an income at least up to poverty level. The best way to push wages up is when employers have to compete for employees. Sending every working-age adult $1,000 in cash every month will not only goose demand, which will cause hiring to meet the need for extra goods and services, it will allow employees to walk away from crap jobs until employers make it attractive enough through higher pay and better working conditions and benefits to make working there worthwhile for people who are no longer desperate for any job they can get.

Marxist Fascist policies like this only hurt the people it’s purported to help.

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6 sagehen  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:51:22pm

re: #5 thecommodore

Marxist Fascist policies like this only hurt the people it’s purported to help.

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Here’s noted liberal economist Milton Friedman persuading noted liberal pundit William F. Buckley Jr what a good idea it is…

Youtube Video

7 Flavia  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:23pm

re: #2 BusyMonster

The glibness of these people is getting so out of control, they don’t seem to realize what miserly, greedy, craven assholes they look like to everyone else.

And those who do realize, don’t care!

THAT’S how bad it’s gotten!

8 miclaine  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 1:47:34pm

I worked for a McD’s as a teen many many years ago. It paid minimum wage then too. I do not believe they ever intended to have full time workers dependent on their wages to raise families in middle class America. McD’s has almost always been a workers first (not only) foray into the working world. For that I am very grateful, I still have friends from that job-over forty-five years later, tho not my first job it taught me a serious work ethic-but we still had fun, I learned a lot from Ray Kroc’s customer service oriented philosophy and his demands for cleanliness-really! As for today - the times have changed, but I still believe their jobs are not meant for moms and dads, owning homes raising families! I think they are getting somewhat of a bad rap here- they are not holding themselves out as the ideal long term career/job. Sorry - in this instance I think peoples expectations are out of whack. As to their food?

9 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 2:25:27pm

re: #8 miclaine

I worked for a McD’s as a teen many many years ago. It paid minimum wage then too. I do not believe they ever intended to have full time workers dependent on their wages to raise families in middle class America. McD’s has almost always been a workers first (not only) foray into the working world. For that I am very grateful, I still have friends from that job-over forty-five years later, tho not my first job it taught me a serious work ethic-but we still had fun, I learned a lot from Ray Kroc’s customer service oriented philosophy and his demands for cleanliness methods-really! as for today - the times have changed, but I still believe their jobs are not meant for moms and dads, owning homes raising families! I think they are getting somewhat of a bad rap here- they are not holding themselves out as the ideal long term career/job. Sorry - in this instance I think peoples expectations are out of whack. As to their food?

Minimum wage used to mean more 45 years ago than it does now.

I worked in fast food too, though not at McDonald’s. My first raise was when minimum wage was increased, so new hires were getting the same thing I got with 6 months experience. Managers were promoted from within the company, so at least some people look to those places for careers. Why should people learn to expect to be screwed while they learn their good work ethic?


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