Hamas in Minnesota
Very bad craziness in Minnesota, where Hamas supporters burned an Israeli flag on the steps of the state capitol. This is horrifying.
(Hat tip: Power Line.)
Very bad craziness in Minnesota, where Hamas supporters burned an Israeli flag on the steps of the state capitol. This is horrifying.
(Hat tip: Power Line.)
2 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:11pm |
Abbas to Hamas: “Respect my authority!”
Hamas: “Suck my balls!”
3 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:54pm |
Shedding tears for my home state of Minnesota…:(
5 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:54pm |
Forget Steelers vs Cardinals, Patriots vs Giants! Forget World Wide Wrestling cage matches
Want to wipe out our deficit?
Pay Per View on Showtime. Book Madison Square Garden. Hamas vs Fatah
$49.95
8 | rawmuse Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:23pm |
re: #6 winston06
How did they get here?
We invited them. We even paid them to move her. See US State Dept.
9 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:53:38pm |
12 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:40pm |
re: #6 winston06
How did they get here?
what the hell are you talking about? Do you have ANY idea how many “student Visas” we give out every year/ Do you relaize how many American born college students gravitate to organizations like this, as long as the org is ‘anti-zionist”?
13 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:54:59pm |
re: #4 rawmuse
What happened to “Minnesota nice”?
It was replaced by “Hamas nasty”.
My God, why have you forsaken us?
14 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:55:22pm |
Who could’ve seen the day that a Fatah supporter would protest the burning of an Israeli flag?
15 | astronmr20 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:56:26pm |
16 | HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:08pm |
re: #11 astronmr20
Where is Peter Stormare when you need him?
I’ve been meaning to ask you..but rarely see you..What do you think of Phil’s bad astronomy website? He got top ten mention this year…
17 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:57:59pm |
re: #13 Dark_Falcon
It was replaced by “Hamas nasty”.
My God, why have you forsaken us?
With apologies to AC/DC, who forsook whom?
18 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:58:15pm |
re: #15 astronmr20
Apparently you have not been to Minneapolis or St. Paul.
Or Dearborn Michigan, Atlanta GA, Portland Maine, etc etc
20 | astronmr20 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:07pm |
Next time, all that needs to be done is a bit of water-hose on those steps the night before the “protest.”
21 | astronmr20 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:29pm |
re: #16 HoosierHoops
I’ve been meaning to ask you..but rarely see you..What do you think of Phil’s bad astronomy website? He got top ten mention this year…
O/T,
It’s great.
22 | screaming_eagle Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:59:37pm |
re: #18 sattv4u2
Or Dearborn Michigan, Atlanta GA, Portland Maine, etc etc
Columbus, Ohio Nashville , TN
24 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:07pm |
re: #20 astronmr20
Next time, all that needs to be done is a bit of water-hose on those steps the night before the “protest.”
Thye’re usually good with blades in their hands. Wonder how they do with them on their feet!?!?!?
25 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:24pm |
re: #14 MandyManners
Who could’ve seen the day that a Fatah supporter would protest the burning of an Israeli flag?
Fatah is thinking “The enemy of my Enemy is my friend.” They want to use the US and Israel to eliminate their rivals. I’m willing to oblige, but I recommend that we charge a price for the service. A peace treaty with Israel seems to me a fair price.
26 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:00:54pm |
re: #17 Taqiyyotomist
With apologies to AC/DC, who forsook whom?
Good point. Sorry, I was despairing.
28 | GT Charlie Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:01:50pm |
I watched the video. What a bunch of dumb asses!
Maybe that kind of crap flies in the middle east, but if they’re going to organize a protest here they need to get their shit together.
Losers!
Charlie
29 | Idle Drifter Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:02pm |
“Hamas is an elected government.”
Good they can take care of themselves, cut off the money…..DOH!
I forgot we just got a kinder, gentler government.
30 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:07pm |
31 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:08pm |
OT - Boulder is going to reopen the Bonet case. Greta will be right on it. Night after night, forever.
I wonder if Murdock has something to do with this? Think about it? Yellow journalism is not new.
32 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:19pm |
re: #26 Dark_Falcon
I’m still wondering about the grammatical-correctness of “who forsook whom.”
Is that right?
33 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:23pm |
re: #4 rawmuse
What happened to “Minnesota nice”?
Cushy welfare benefits and lenient crime laws attracted a lot of folks from Chicago and St Louis to move in, not to mention the ever growing Somali community.
34 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:02:37pm |
35 | rwmofo Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:03:16pm |
This appears to be where the moderate haters meet the garden-variety haters.
37 | astronmr20 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:00pm |
re: #35 rwmofo
This appears to be where the moderate haters meet the garden-variety haters.
That about sums it up.
38 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:05pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
Fatah is thinking “The enemy of my Enemy is my friend.” They want to use the US and Israel to eliminate their rivals. I’m willing to oblige, but I recommend that we charge a price for the service. A peace treaty with Israel seems to me a fair price.
Abu Abas must admit that six milion Jews were killed, too.
39 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:10pm |
40 | winston06 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:11pm |
re: #12 sattv4u2
I know that millions come to the US every year but I thought in an age of Islamic Jihadism, these Jihadists couldn’t reach the US borders any more.
41 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:16pm |
Scorpions in a bottle. But both are scorpions.
42 | Randall Gross Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:28pm |
Actually that was posted in your spinoffs earlier than Powerline’s post I believe.
43 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:04:33pm |
There’s a neighborhood in Minneapolis my friends now call Little Mogadishu.
44 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:18pm |
re: #32 Taqiyyotomist
I’m still wondering about the grammatical-correctness of “who forsook whom.”
Is that right?
Yes, I believe that is correct.
45 | astronmr20 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:30pm |
re: #40 winston06
I know that millions come to the US every year but I thought in an age of Islamic Jihadism, these Jihadists couldn’t reach the US borders any more.
These are just loud-mouthed assholes who readily hide behind their fat lives in the United States. None of these cowards are willing to die for anything.
It’s the silent ones out of view that we have to worry about the most.
46 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:37pm |
47 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:45pm |
re: #18 sattv4u2
Or Dearborn Michigan, Atlanta GA, Portland Maine, etc etc
I’d rather explore Route 66
48 | avanti Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:05:48pm |
49 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:27pm |
re: #39 Dustyvet
Ellison needs to be recalled.
What ever. I was questioning what I believe is a troll question. Check his account history.
50 | rwmofo Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:47pm |
re: #36 pink freud
Trader Joe bit it bottom of last thread.
His mask was fairly transparent. I didn’t see that lasting much longer. Will miss him - like a kick to the nads.
51 | lostlakehiker Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:06:56pm |
Flag burning shouldn’t be thought of as a kind of sacrilege. Flags are symbols of nations, and many nations merit great respect. But they’re not sacred. Holy Mother Russia? And how many god-emperors have there been?
Political movements to ban flag-burning in the U.S. have always struck me as misguided. One of the very most important reasons why it is unethical for an American to burn a U.S. flag is that he contradicts himself in the very act of burning it. He relies, with utter confidence, on a scrupulous adherence by the law to the widest possible interpretation of the rights noted in the Constitution as being god-given. He relies, with near equal confidence, on the public tradition of tolerating all sorts of outrageous provocation, so long as it’s not an infringement of the rights of others. And then he calls his nation oppressive. Chutzpah.
Those who burn the flags of decent nations merely let slip the mask that they would have hiding their essential wrongheadedness or worse.
52 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:11pm |
Why do I feel like I’m living in the Weimar Republic?
54 | Randall Gross Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:27pm |
The behaviour here mirrors in a microcosm that seen in WB and Gaza, very similar to what the earlier post from the Palestinian journalist said.
55 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:49pm |
re: #49 Walter L. Newton
What ever. I was questioning what I believe is a troll question. Check his account history.
Okay, I will do that. Thanks.
56 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:07:51pm |
57 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:18pm |
re: #38 MandyManners
Abu Abas must admit that six milion Jews were killed, too.
“The Jews deserved it and it should happen again” is the new Holocaust denial.
58 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:22pm |
When is the American Jewish Community finally going to get just how serious and wide spread these groups are? We all need to take a tough stand against this now as it is going to get much worse down the line.
59 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:36pm |
re: #36 pink freud
Trader Joe bit it bottom of last thread.
he was even pissin me off and that’s unusual…
60 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:41pm |
re: #43 Sharmuta
There’s a neighborhood in Minneapolis my friends now call Little Mogadishu.
And that’s not even the whole of the islamic presence in Minnesota. One of the first areas the Muslim Student Association moved to was the University of Minnesota decades ago.
And remember the airport issues, and the Target clerks- this isn’t a surprise to me. The bleeding heart liberals who would vote for a moron like Al Franken are the same people who think this multi-cultural nihilism is great!
61 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:44pm |
62 | jaunte Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:08:51pm |
It’s good there was a police presence to dampen the Hamas enthusiasm.
63 | Noam Sayin' Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:00pm |
Speaking as a Minnesotan, born and bred, Take your fucking Palestine shit the fuck back home.
It won’t be settled here.
64 | winston06 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:02pm |
re: #51 lostlakehiker
The sentiments behind burning that flag is nasty.
65 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:08pm |
re: #40 winston06
I know that millions come to the US every year but I thought in an age of Islamic Jihadism, these Jihadists couldn’t reach the US borders any more.
It’s not like they have JIHADIST tatooed to their forheads
66 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:21pm |
I regret that I am unable to properly attribute this to the original poster. It is perfect for this thread.
67 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:09:27pm |
re: #57 Alouette
“The Jews deserved it and it should happen again” is the new Holocaust denial.
Is that Abbas’ position?
69 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:28pm |
re: #63 Noam Sayin’
Speaking as a Minnesotan, born and bred, Take your fucking Palestine shit the fuck back home.
It won’t be settled here.
Ding…Born in Ely, Minnesota and raised in Minneapolis.
71 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:10:55pm |
re: #66 pink freud
Sorry. My video is a one minute clip on multiculturalism.
72 | iraqnophobic Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:10pm |
Re;#34 Ellison for VP! (is that meant to be sarcastic?
I’ll say it one more time and in the same tenor as originally posted: Ellison for VP!
/sarc off
Just what we need, a Muslim VP! Yeah, that will solve all sorts of problems.
I wasn’t trolling; one can only ice fish this time of the year.
(But yah gotta admit he’d make a nice bookend with BHO.)
73 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:30pm |
74 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:37pm |
re: #68 winston06
They have it in their backgrounds
Really? Everyone of them? EVERY Muslim?
I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into Muhammed Ali!
75 | Macker Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:14pm |
re: #5 sattv4u2
Forget Steelers vs Cardinals, Patriots vs Giants! Forget World Wide Wrestling cage matches
Want to wipe out our deficit?
Pay Per View on Showtime. Book Madison Square Garden. Hamas vs Fatah
$49.95
Now THIS I would gladly pay for!
76 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:20pm |
I think the universities get BIG cash from Saudi etc. This inflates number of students…when you have large number of arabic students, it is one or two steps until you have a large number of arabic professors…and just follow the money, honey.
77 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:29pm |
re: #74 sattv4u2
Really? Everyone of them? EVERY Muslim?
I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into Muhammed Ali!
Cassius?….he’s cool
78 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:12:38pm |
I just watched this video….
Man, these people are beyond stupid. So worthless.
79 | Ojoe Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:01pm |
The world is heading over a cliff
Genesis 12: 3 comes into play
God keep us safe
80 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:45pm |
A sign says “End the Occupation of Palestine”
I agree. The refugee camps and its inhabitants can go to……
Egypt and Jordan……
81 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:54pm |
re: #72 iraqnophobic
Re;#34 Ellison for VP! (is that meant to be sarcastic?
I’ll say it one more time and in the same tenor as originally posted: Ellison for VP!
/sarc offJust what we need, a Muslim VP! Yeah, that will solve all sorts of problems.
I wasn’t trolling; one can only ice fish this time of the year.
(But yah gotta admit he’d make a nice bookend with BHO.)
Well guess what jerk, we can’t tell tenor if you don’t give us some indication in your message, like using a sarc tag, which evidently you know how to do.
So, stop with the smart-assed retort.
Your comment, without the sarc tag could be used against this site but any moonbat that wants to link to that comment and make LGF look like some bigoted anti-muslim site.
Got it?
82 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:13:56pm |
re: #78 TheMatrix31
I just watched this video….
Man, these people are beyond stupid. So worthless.
They’re not stupid. They know exactly what they’re doing.
83 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:14:27pm |
re: #76 Wishing
I think the universities get BIG cash from Saudi etc. This inflates number of students…when you have large number of arabic students, it is one or two steps until you have a large number of arabic professors…and just follow the money, honey.
and it’s our money!….
like that
84 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:14:44pm |
85 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:15:03pm |
re: #74 sattv4u2
Really? Everyone of them? EVERY Muslim?
I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into Muhammed Ali!
Sorry to inturrupt, but I believe the exact wording of the original subject here was “jihadis”.
86 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:15:06pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
They’re not stupid. They know exactly what they’re doing.
Not stupid in that sense. Stupid in the “just so damn annoying” sense.
87 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:15:18pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
They’re not stupid. They know exactly what they’re doing.
Actually, I think these particular ones are stupid. The ones who sent them… not necessarily.
89 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:06pm |
re: #59 albusteve
he was even pissin me off and that’s unusual…
Nobody appreciated my witty retort to him either.
90 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:10pm |
re: #32 Taqiyyotomist
I’m still wondering about the grammatical-correctness of “who forsook whom.”
Is that right?
Yes. “He forsook him.” “She forsook her.” “Who forsook whom.”
Forsooth.
91 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:13pm |
re: #77 albusteve
Cassius?….he’s cool
I recall reading about some weirdly racist remarks Clay/Ali made over the years.
92 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:21pm |
“Hamas is an elected government”
So was the Third Reich.
93 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:32pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
They’re not stupid. They know exactly what they’re doing.
DIng ding ding, up, up, up if I could. I missed that. That’s the stupid hyperbole I was talking about this morning.
They are not stupid, they are not worthless, they are spot on with their targeted audience and dismissing them with lame terms like “worthless” simply gives them more cover to do what they do.
94 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:33pm |
solomonpanting — the problem with sending these people to Jordan and Egypt is that they won’t take them and neither will any of the other Arab countries. Even the ones who moved to Egypt decades ago are not allowed to get Egyptian citizenship.
If these other countries were to take them, they would lose their “vicitim” status.
95 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:16:59pm |
re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes. “He forsook him.” “She forsook her.” “Who forsook whom.”
Forsooth.
What light in yonder window brakes…:)
96 | Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:05pm |
See also:
Minnesotans against Terrorism
So, terrorist Family Feud comes to the Minnesota Capitol. My, my, my, what lovely, peaceful people, and right in my backyard no less. Damn, how long before these Hamas people start digging tunnels around town?
/they love to dig tunnels
97 | winston06 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:12pm |
re: #74 sattv4u2
no body s talking about ALL of them. We were/are talking about these people in the above video.
98 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:16pm |
re: #74 sattv4u2
Really? Everyone of them? EVERY Muslim?
I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into Muhammed Ali!
He was a nice guy when I met him
99 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:37pm |
re: #85 Taqiyyotomist
Sorry to inturrupt, but I believe the exact wording of the original subject here was “jihadis”.
How is one a jihadi “in their background” (which was also the exact wording)? Their DNA? Their ancestory?
100 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:51pm |
re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes. “He forsook him.” “She forsook her.” “Who forsook whom.”
Forsooth.
What is Hecuba to him, or he to Hecuba, that he should weep for her?
101 | iraqnophobic Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:01pm |
re: #73 Walter L. Newton
Sorry, Walter, I left the “sarc” tag off my initial post.
It’s been a long time since I have posted here.
I wish never to be a troll.
Sarcastic, yes. Troll, no.
Thanks for your patience.
102 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:13pm |
re: #89 lifeofthemind
Nobody appreciated my witty retort to him either.
yes, we get overlooked occasionally eh?…..I love LGF!…I keep my mouth shut that way I’m never overlooked!…presto!
103 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:15pm |
re: #67 MandyManners
Is that Abbas’ position?
Abbas’ position is presenting his buttocks to the dominant male.
104 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:18:34pm |
re: #87 Occasional Reader
Actually, I think these particular ones are stupid. The ones who sent them… not necessarily.
It doesn’t matter. Dismissing them as stupid is like saying “don’t worry, they aren’t worth listening to.”
And they go right on doing what they do, while we turn our back, because they are just stupid, nothing to see here… move on…
No, we have to start recognizing all these people as dangerous, well funded and on target.
105 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:02pm |
Posted on the other thread…..I walk through little Somalia on my way from the light rail station to school. A left wing bar there has Palestinian flags and anti-Israel posters on it. A fellow Lizardette and I infiltrated an anti-Israeli performance there a while back. It was actually all white left wingers (maybe the booze kept away hard core Islamasts).
It is interesting how the far right and far left have common bonds. Maybe it’s just co-incidence, but a very large Lutheran church is lead by a St Paul Democrat. They are incredibly obsessed with Israel (in a bad way).
106 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:13pm |
re: #95 Dustyvet
What light in yonder window brakes…:)
I don’t think Shakespeare ever mentioned brake lights.
107 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:16pm |
re: #91 Occasional Reader
I recall reading about some weirdly racist remarks Clay/Ali made over the years.
he’s a nut but he’s our nut…I’ll call him and square things…
108 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:25pm |
re: #94 Miss Molly
solomonpanting — the problem with sending these people to Jordan and Egypt is that they won’t take them and neither will any of the other Arab countries. Even the ones who moved to Egypt decades ago are not allowed to get Egyptian citizenship.
If these other countries were to take them, they would lose their “vicitim” status.
Yes, I know. There’d be no Victimistan.
110 | Omega3 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:34pm |
re: #60 Sharmuta
And that’s not even the whole of the islamic presence in Minnesota. One of the first areas the Muslim Student Association moved to was the University of Minnesota decades ago.
And remember the airport issues, and the Target clerks- this isn’t a surprise to me. The bleeding heart liberals who would vote for a moron like Al Franken are the same people who think this multi-cultural nihilism is great!
Exactly. Not a surprise at all. There’s a BP gas station on Larpentuer about 10 blocks from the capital that has Islamists refusing service to Jews. No shit.
111 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:36pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
It doesn’t matter. Dismissing them as stupid is like saying “don’t worry, they aren’t worth listening to.”
And they go right on doing what they do, while we turn our back, because they are just stupid, nothing to see here… move on…
No, we have to start recognizing all these people as dangerous, well funded and on target.
Which people should we recognize as dangerous?
112 | phillygirl Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:19:50pm |
Where is “Senator” Al Franken? Shouldn’t he be taking care of this mess?
113 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:20:05pm |
re: #91 Occasional Reader
I recall reading about some weirdly racist remarks Clay/Ali made over the years.
Not an excuse, but he was subjected to lots of scorn as a youing black man and later an athelete back in Kentucky growing up. His pre- Olymplic experience was dreadful also, up until the time he started winning
114 | FrogMarch Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:20:08pm |
The various levels of insanity. Peaceful insanity and rage filled insanity.
on American Soil.
115 | rwmofo Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:20:19pm |
re: #80 solomonpanting
A sign says “End the Occupation of Palestine”
I agree. The refugee camps and its inhabitants can go to……
Egypt and Jordan……
Translation: End the Occupation of Israel.
They’re not talking about Gaza and the West Bank.
116 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:01pm |
re: #111 Taqiyyotomist
Which people should we recognize as dangerous?
And, if we can narrow that down, how do we go about making this recognition tangible?
117 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:10pm |
re: #115 rwmofo
Translation: End the Occupation of Israel.
They’re not talking about Gaza and the West Bank.
I suppose I should have included a sarc tag, huh?
118 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:44pm |
I guess Ellison is officially a Fatah mouthpiece now. Lovely.
119 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:21:46pm |
re: #106 Occasional Reader
I don’t think Shakespeare ever mentioned brake lights.
sowary it was a Warner Brothers Cartoon…:)
120 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:22:00pm |
re: #112 phillygirl
Where is “Senator” Al Franken? Shouldn’t he be taking care of this mess?
He should be force to watch this video. He needs to learn what these people think of him. Even though he’s a far-left nut, they would murder him: Not for what he does, but for who he is. And if he can’t come to understand that, then he is beyond all hope.
121 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:22:00pm |
re: #52 Occasional Reader
Why do I feel like I’m living in the Weimar Republic?
Maybe not, check carefully. If you see men walking around with little spear heads sticking out of the tops of their helmets then that isn’t Weimer, its Wilhelmine Germany.
122 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:22:06pm |
re: #110 Omega3
Exactly. Not a surprise at all. There’s a BP gas station on Larpentuer about 10 blocks from the capital that has Islamists refusing service to Jews. No shit.
stalk the place with signs….call out the bigots
123 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:22:20pm |
re: #111 Taqiyyotomist
Which people should we recognize as dangerous?
Ah, the people at the demonstration, the people who are supporting them, the whole rat’s nest.
When I say “dangerous” I mean in the sense that they are trying to stir up emotions, emotions that one day may become violent action.
Who did you think I was talking about?
124 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:05pm |
solomonpanting — You are right, there would be no “victimstan” and some of these “vicitim” people might actually have to get a real job. What could be worse than that?
125 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:24pm |
Where is “Senator” Al Franken? Shouldn’t he be taking care of this mess?
I went to the Stand With Israel rally at the Jewish Community center in St Louis Park a couple of weeks ago. Crazy Al was there. I am happy that he showed up (my take is he is Jewish only in heritage). But he was the only political type, Republican or Democrat, that used it to make political statements. He said things will be better in the mideast now the Bush is gone and Obama is in office.
Norm Coleman, and even Mark Dayton, gave very good talks. Michelle Bachmann did the best. And yes, Israel haters were outside in force. So were the police.
126 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:26pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
No, we have to start recognizing all these people as dangerous, well funded and on target.
People can be all those things, AND stupid. These particular ones are stupid, because they took to fighting among themselves, when they didn’t have to. The Hama thugs just want to bash heads, that’s pretty obvious to me; the advantage to having a US Congressman in their pocket escapes them.
127 | Mich-again Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:43pm |
There could have been hundreds of movies just like that made around here in Dearborn if anyone thought it would have been newsworthy. It doesn’t even make the local Dearborn papers anymore. Its like a non-event. Like a patching crew on the highway that slows traffic. What the F* are those morons doing holding up traffic. Sad but true.
Point is, its not just Minnesota and I don’t say that because I am trying to defend it. Its what ignorant and stupid people can be led to do by appealing to their human instinct to hate.
128 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:46pm |
re: #113 sattv4u2
Not an excuse, but he was subjected to lots of scorn as a youing black man and later an athelete back in Kentucky growing up. His pre- Olymplic experience was dreadful also, up until the time he started winning
agreed…I’ll stand with Ali…he never wanted to hurt anybody did he?
/
129 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:23:54pm |
re: #76 Wishing
I think the universities get BIG cash from Saudi etc. This inflates number of students…when you have large number of arabic students, it is one or two steps until you have a large number of arabic professors…and just follow the money, honey.
18 MIL to University of Arkansas
14 MIL to George Washington University
10.3 MIL to Georgetown University
.5 MIL to Tulane University
8 MIL to Harvard
10 MIL to MIT
1 MIL to Johns Hopkins
.5 MIL to Columbia
29.4 MIL University of Virginia
According to the Department of Eduction Foreign Gift data table, Saudi Arabia made the above contributions in 2005-2006.
130 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:24:05pm |
re: #126 Occasional Reader
People can be all those things, AND stupid. These particular ones are stupid, because they took to fighting among themselves, when they didn’t have to. The Hama thugs just want to bash heads, that’s pretty obvious to me; the advantage to having a US Congressman in their pocket escapes them.
That’s pretty stupid!
131 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:24:59pm |
To ad to my 125, Al Franken just doesn’t get it. He has spent his life with extremely liberal Hollywood and NYC types. He seems to support Israel, but thinks the Israel haters really just hate Republicans in the US, because that is how secular Jews in NYC feel.
132 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:03pm |
re: #125 Dave the…..
But he was the only political type, Republican or Democrat, that used it to make political statements. He said things will be better in the mideast now the Bush is gone and Obama is in office.
See, to me, that’s the CLASSIC definition of a “useful idiot”.
133 | winston06 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:10pm |
re: #112 phillygirl
He’s probably in Playboy’s mansion posing for those awful shots.
134 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:21pm |
re: #124 Miss Molly
solomonpanting — You are right, there would be no “victimstan” and some of these “vicitim” people might actually have to get a real job. What could be worse than that?
“Hello. This is Abu Hamza, for Verizon Wireless. How may I help you?”
135 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:25pm |
re: #127 Mich-again
There could have been hundreds of movies just like that made around here in Dearborn if anyone thought it would have been newsworthy. It doesn’t even make the local Dearborn papers anymore. Its like a non-event. Like a patching crew on the highway that slows traffic. What the F* are those morons doing holding up traffic. Sad but true.
Point is, its not just Minnesota and I don’t say that because I am trying to defend it. Its what ignorant and stupid people can be led to do by appealing to their human instinct to hate.
Oh, you’re just jealous that Minn. is getting more moonbat shit crazy than Michigan.
:)
136 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:25:35pm |
137 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:14pm |
138 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:22pm |
re: #112 phillygirl
Where is “Senator” Al Franken? Shouldn’t he be taking care of this mess?
reading that, I just threw up a little into my mouth!
141 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:26:50pm |
re: #136 Occasional Reader
My remark, or the Hama thugs?
My goodness gracious, I would never call any of your remarks stupid. Annoying, yes, stupid no.
:)
142 | stevieray Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:10pm |
re: #91 Occasional Reader
I recall reading about some weirdly racist remarks Clay/Ali made over the years.
Indeed he did make some heinous remarks. His interview in Playboy back in the mid-seventies contains a few. Unfortunately, it isn’t available on line, so no direct link, but here is some of it:
Under the influence of Elijah Mohammad — who preached that blacks should refuse to integrate with “white devils” — Ali made a point of dating only black women and lashed out at men and women who engaged in interracial sex. In an interview with Playboy, he declared: “A black man should be killed if he’s messing with a white woman.” When the interviewer asked about black women crossing the colour barrier, Ali responded: “Then she dies. Kill her, too.”
It’s unlikely that a white athlete who made such remarks would receive the praise that Michael Mann heaps on Ali. He says that the fighter “personified racial pride and self-knowledge”. The Playboy journalist, who interviewed the boxer, was closer to the mark when he observed of his subject: “You’re beginning to sound like a carbon copy of a white racist.” … The transformation of Ali from a great fighter to a celebrated man of conscience and social purpose has succeeded so well because the actual history of his career has been altered to reflect the kinder, gentler man of today. Unpleasant remarks or facts from the past have been swept away or excused. … A more historically accurate appraisal of Ali would conclude that he was far from heroic outside the ring and was pitifully misused by his masters in the Nation of Islam. For his purposes, Elijah hijacked the impressionable young man’s career and filled his head with racist nonsense.
By the time he finally broke free of the old Nation of Islam, in the 1970s, his career was in its last stages. He continued to fight long past his prime, in part to recover the money and time he had lost in his misadventures with the Black Muslims.
Link (scroll down to the end)
143 | rayamehemna Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:12pm |
Fatah is condemning Israel for defending itself.
They believe in wiping out Israel but it must be done diplomatically.
(Shhhh Don’t tell anyone that the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade is a part of Fatah.)
At least Hamas is honest.
144 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:27:39pm |
146 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:01pm |
re: #129 pink freud
18 MIL to University of Arkansas
14 MIL to George Washington University
10.3 MIL to Georgetown University
.5 MIL to Tulane University
8 MIL to Harvard
10 MIL to MIT
1 MIL to Johns Hopkins
.5 MIL to Columbia
29.4 MIL University of VirginiaAccording to the Department of Eduction Foreign Gift data table, Saudi Arabia made the above contributions in 2005-2006.
I am ashamed to see my alma mater in that list.
If they want Saudi money, they’re not getting any of mine.
147 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:10pm |
re: #139 Occasional Reader
Why do I keep typing “Hama”?
Because you put pressed an “H” key and then you pressed an”a” key and then you pressed an “m” key and then you press an “a” key again. And then you stopped.
148 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:14pm |
149 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:40pm |
151 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:28:48pm |
re: #128 albusteve
agreed…I’ll stand with Ali…he never wanted to hurt anybody did he?
/
Okay, I see the sarc tag. But what do you mean? Are you implying the Ali has sympathies for the Jihadists?
152 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:12pm |
153 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:25pm |
re: #129 pink freud
18 MIL to University of Arkansas
14 MIL to George Washington University
10.3 MIL to Georgetown University
.5 MIL to Tulane University
8 MIL to Harvard
10 MIL to MIT
1 MIL to Johns Hopkins
.5 MIL to Columbia
29.4 MIL University of VirginiaAccording to the Department of Eduction Foreign Gift data table, Saudi Arabia made the above contributions in 2005-2006.
Is that just the official KSA government money? Then add in money from the Princes and side “charities” and the Gulf sheikdoms etc. Not just academia, it has been a given for 50 years now that every non-zionist who retires from the diplomatic service in the US or UK can consider the Saudis and friends as a second pension plan.
154 | phillygirl Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:43pm |
I’m of two minds here. One the one hand, I am appalled by the anti-Israel (meaning anti-Jewish) demonstrations in our country. On the other hand, I think they should be ignored - because the demonstrators want to be seen - news coverage brings legitimacy to their cause. Maybe some other lizards can help me with this terrible dilemma.
155 | stevieray Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:46pm |
re: #139 Occasional Reader
Why do I keep typing “Hama”?
Because you are subconsciously linking two things that kill alot of Muslims together?
156 | avanti Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:29:49pm |
Could someone translate this bit of Arab speak from the Saudi press page ?
JEDDAH: Saudi Arabia yesterday urged the Palestinians to adopt a new and realistic concept of resistance that would realize their unity, strengthen their legitimate organizations, protect their lives and properties and ensure their legitimate rights.
157 | Mich-again Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:30:07pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Oh, you’re just jealous that Minn. is getting more moonbat shit crazy than Michigan.
Not logical. Does not compute. Reboot!
158 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:30:15pm |
re: #150 muckdog
Welcome to the Al Franken Decade.
If the scumbags in this video get their way, it will be the “Al Franken Made Into a Lampshade Decade”. And he doesn’t even realize it. Again: Classic “useful idiot”.
159 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:34pm |
re: #151 sattv4u2
Okay, I see the sarc tag. But what do you mean? Are you implying the Ali has sympathies for the Jihadists?
he was a boxer….he severely hurt some people…I doubt he knows what Jihad is….I still love the old coot
160 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:31:37pm |
re: #154 phillygirl
I’m of two minds here. One the one hand, I am appalled by the anti-Israel (meaning anti-Jewish) demonstrations in our country. On the other hand, I think they should be ignored - because the demonstrators want to be seen - news coverage brings legitimacy to their cause. Maybe some other lizards can help me with this terrible dilemma.
I’m of two minds here. One the one hand, I am appalled by the Brownshirt (meaning anti-semitic) demonstrations in our country. On the other hand, I think they should be ignored - because the Brownshirts want to be seen - news coverage brings legitimacy to the Nazi cause. Maybe some other lizards can help me with this terrible dilemma.
There, I did!
161 | stevieray Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:00pm |
re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist
I hate to seem to support this dreck, but people were psychotic in the mid-seventies. Most of them got their heads straightened out shortly thereafter.
True… he did come around. Whether it was the seventies or Elijah Muhammed (or both) is debatable…
162 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:09pm |
re: #157 Mich-again
Not logical. Does not compute. Reboot!
Ah come on, you saw my happy face, it was a joke.
163 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:39pm |
re: #152 sattv4u2
better than me. I keep typing HAMM
You’re clearly obsessed with really, REALLY cheap beer.
164 | Taqiyyotomist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:32:55pm |
How about: anyone caught actually burning a flag in a demonstration gets photoed and fingerprinted. Same with anyone caught with any sign or material in their posession which contains advocacy for terrorism, extermination of Jews, or even love of dictators past or present. Anyone caught screaming “death to Israel” or “Death to America” or any of the provably violence-inciting Arabic phrases which are commonly screamed, they get fingerprinted and photographed, too. “These people,” people who exhibit these behaviors, should definitely be considered, Officially, dangerous.
This way we’re not profiling based on a religion, but upon behavior.
But no. We can’t even do that. We must watch it when we say “these people”, since we can’t even quantify or codify who we mean by “these people”, not even with careful consideration of sets and subsets of behavior and overlapping patterns — naming any group, no matter how well-defined, is de facto prohibited, is racist, is a “broad brush”, by the new conventional wisdom, ironically a suicidal foolishness.
165 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:12pm |
If Minnesoto actually gets stuck with Weird Al as their Senator I wonder just how much time he will spend in Minnesoto as he seems to believe only Hollywood and New York are worth his attention. I wonder if he could even find his way back to Minnesoto once he leaves.
166 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:23pm |
re: #146 Occasional Reader
I am ashamed to see my alma mater in that list.
If they want Saudi money, they’re not getting any of mine.
Seems like you aren’t the only one feeling that way.
Columbia University’s endowment shrinks
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York’s Columbia University said its endowment took a big hit in late 2008, and that the Ivy League university should prepare for leaner times.
In a note addressed to the university’s community, Columbia’s President, Lee Bollinger, said the endowment shrank by about 15 percent in the six months through the end of 2008.
“Given the volatility of capital markets, one cannot accurately project what will unfold in the spring,” Bollinger said.
In December, Yale University said its endowment had lost 25 percent, or $5.5 billion, in four months. Harvard University said its endowment had lost 22 percent and that it would likely post its worst returns in 40 years.
167 | phillygirl Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:33:36pm |
re: #160 Walter L. Newton
I’m of two minds here. One the one hand, I am appalled by the Brownshirt (meaning anti-semitic) demonstrations in our country. On the other hand, I think they should be ignored - because the Brownshirts want to be seen - news coverage brings legitimacy to the Nazi cause. Maybe some other lizards can help me with this terrible dilemma.
There, I did!
Yikes. This is scary stuff. Think Bama will be concerned?
168 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:34:17pm |
re: #113 sattv4u2
Not an excuse, but he was subjected to lots of scorn as a youing black man and later an athelete back in Kentucky growing up. His pre- Olymplic experience was dreadful also, up until the time he started winning
I have no way of reading the mind of Ali, but I did live through the period. It was always my take that his conversion had a whole lot more to do with the injustice he felt with serving in Vietnam vs. black representation in America. “No Vietcong ever called me n*gger.”
Hard to argue with that. Sacrificed the best years of his like over that one. Greatest of all time he was.
169 | Ojoe Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:34:20pm |
re: #154 phillygirl
This stuff cannot be ignored except at great peril.
We must not turn away and assume no evil.
That was the mistake of the 1930s.
170 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:34:20pm |
re: #156 avanti
Could someone translate this bit of Arab speak from the Saudi press page ?
JEDDAH: Saudi Arabia yesterday urged the Palestinians to adopt a new and realistic concept of resistance that would realize their unity, strengthen their legitimate organizations, protect their lives and properties and ensure their legitimate rights.
TRANSLATION
In these tough economic times with most of the world trying to figure out ways to cut down on Oil consumption, with the price per barrel down below $35, ARAB ass is ojn the line here. Don’t do anything else to get people even MORE pissed at us! You think you’ve got it tough now? Think how bad it will be if we (OPEC) cut off ALL funds to you!
172 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:34:59pm |
re: #167 phillygirl
Yikes. This is scary stuff. Think Bama will be concerned?
Is Michael Jackson black?
173 | yesandno Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:20pm |
Can’t wait to see what kind of party they will throw when Frankenstein is declared the winner.
174 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:32pm |
175 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:35:47pm |
Who will stop the islamist invasion of Minnesota? Franken voters? Puhlease!
No one will stop this because conservatives are cutting and running from Minnesota. There hasn’t been a conservative sent to Washington to represent Minnesota since Rod Grams, and we tossed him under the bus. There is no one to stop this.
176 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:11pm |
re: #168 The Shadow Do
I have no way of reading the mind of Ali, but I did live through the period. It was always my take that his conversion had a whole lot more to do with the injustice he felt with serving in Vietnam vs. black representation in America. “No Vietcong ever called me n*gger.”
Hard to argue with that. Sacrificed the best years of his like over that one. Greatest of all time he was.
agree ,, and updinged (and I’m of that era alos, BTW)
177 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:16pm |
178 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:29pm |
People only say ignore them because in their hearts they have conceded that they think the public is unwilling to reject them, as the public did reject racists in the past. If you believe that they are the equivalent of the American Nazis or the KKK or other supremacist hate groups of the past, if you really believed that, then why wouldn’t you try to get 5, 10 or 15,000 people to rally against them?
179 | Macker Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:36pm |
re: #103 Alouette
Abbas’ position is presenting his buttocks to the dominant male.
I sure hope that isn’t БХО….
180 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:43pm |
re: #163 Occasional Reader
You’re clearly obsessed with really, REALLY cheap beer.
it’s flyover beer you snob….
181 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:47pm |
re: #172 Walter L. Newton
Is Michael Jackson black?
So initially, Obama will be concerned, but then he’ll have surgery to get over it? I don’t get your analogy.
182 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:36:54pm |
re: #168 The Shadow Do
with the injustice he felt with serving in Vietnam vs. black representation in America. “No Vietcong ever called me n*gger.”
While racism was no doubt a big factor is his life, the quote is actually quite dumb. I doubt any bona fide Nazi ever called him that, either. So what?
183 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:37:03pm |
ojoe — you are spot on! Either we face this problem now because if we don’t it will grow beyond our imagination and the cost to wait till later will be a high price to pay.
184 | CynicalConservative Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:37:16pm |
Another flameout downthread; rough night.
185 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:37:56pm |
re: #175 Sharmuta
Who will stop the islamist invasion of Minnesota? Franken voters? Puhlease!
No one will stop this because conservatives are cutting and running from Minnesota. There hasn’t been a conservative sent to Washington to represent Minnesota since Rod Grams, and we tossed him under the bus. There is no one to stop this.
I think we have to stop expecting *someone* to stop this insanity. The onus is on us, where ever we are. We don’t have the *I was only following orders* excuse. We have history to instruct us. If we fail to act, as individuals, this great evil will sweep across our nation.
186 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:00pm |
re: #180 albusteve
it’s flyover beer you snob….
If you mean that it’s what’s dumped out of the airliner lavatories as they’re flying over, then I agree.
187 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:01pm |
re: #163 Occasional Reader
You’re clearly obsessed with really, REALLY cheap beer.
cheap! You want CHEAP BEER? I have actually HAD this one!
[Link: cordic-and-co.com…]
Old FrothingSlosh
The Pale Stale Ale With The Foam On The Bottom!
188 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:38:59pm |
re: #168 The Shadow Do
I have no way of reading the mind of Ali, but I did live through the period. It was always my take that his conversion had a whole lot more to do with the injustice he felt with serving in Vietnam vs. black representation in America. “No Vietcong ever called me n*gger.”
Hard to argue with that. Sacrificed the best years of his like over that one. Greatest of all time he was.
he came back…he beat the system
189 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:03pm |
re: #154 phillygirl
I’m of two minds here. One the one hand, I am appalled by the anti-Israel (meaning anti-Jewish) demonstrations in our country. On the other hand, I think they should be ignored - because the demonstrators want to be seen - news coverage brings legitimacy to their cause. Maybe some other lizards can help me with this terrible dilemma.
What did Edmund Burke say about evil trimphing?
190 | avanti Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:04pm |
re: #170 sattv4u2
TRANSLATION
In these tough economic times with most of the world trying to figure out ways to cut down on Oil consumption, with the price per barrel down below $35, ARAB ass is ojn the line here. Don’t do anything else to get people even MORE pissed at us! You think you’ve got it tough now? Think how bad it will be if we (OPEC) cut off ALL funds to you!
I get :Keep firing rockets, and you’ll keep getting getting your ass kicked, but you could be right. I hate diplomatic speak.
191 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:07pm |
re: #174 MandyManners
That’s the only thing I can think.
While I’m on the topic, I will add that Al Jazeera has contributed $300,000 to the local university, University of Louisiana at Lafayette, for the construction of a new broadcasting studio for the Journalism Department.
They have also implemented a student exchange of “journalism” students from various Middle Eastern countries.
192 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:38pm |
re: #182 Occasional Reader
While racism was no doubt a big factor is his life, the quote is actually quite dumb. I doubt any bona fide Nazi ever called him that, either. So what?
I beg to differ. Perhaps not HIM personally, but Nazis did not have any regard for the Negroid race!
193 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:56pm |
re: #164 Taqiyyotomist
How about: anyone caught actually burning a flag in a demonstration gets photoed and fingerprinted. Same with anyone caught with any sign or material in their posession which contains advocacy for terrorism, extermination of Jews, or even love of dictators past or present. Anyone caught screaming “death to Israel” or “Death to America” or any of the provably violence-inciting Arabic phrases which are commonly screamed, they get fingerprinted and photographed, too. “These people,” people who exhibit these behaviors, should definitely be considered, Officially, dangerous.
This way we’re not profiling based on a religion, but upon behavior.
But no. We can’t even do that. We must watch it when we say “these people”, since we can’t even quantify or codify who we mean by “these people”, not even with careful consideration of sets and subsets of behavior and overlapping patterns — naming any group, no matter how well-defined, is de facto prohibited, is racist, is a “broad brush”, by the new conventional wisdom, ironically a suicidal foolishness.
There’s this little, old thing called the First Amendment.
194 | Macker Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:39:59pm |
re: #172 Walter L. Newton
Is Michael Jackson black?
Nowadays I don’t know, but I still say he should be a Goa’uld System Lord. He has that look for it….
195 | Maximu§ Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:04pm |
Where are the cops? Where are the cops that used to bash peoples heads in with nightsticks if they didn’t disperse?
Why are these Goons on OUR streets threatening us and our friends?
I’m too mad to go on….
196 | Render Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:20pm |
I would think the HAMAS leader, the guy screaming “I am HAMAS”, is a clear case of probable cause.
I translate that line as “I am a member of a mass murdering gang of terrorist thugs.”
===
Has Ellison made any public statement about this yet?
I
PRESUME,
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197 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:33pm |
re: #186 Occasional Reader
If you mean that it’s what’s dumped out of the airliner lavatories as they’re flying over, then I agree.
well still….
198 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:55pm |
re: #195 Maximu§
Where are the cops? Where are the cops that used to bash peoples heads in with nightsticks if they didn’t disperse?
Why are these Goons on OUR streets threatening us and our friends?
I’m too mad to go on….
I think there were several police present in that video, maybe I mis-saw.
199 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:40:58pm |
201 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:12pm |
re: #185 Wishing
You’re talking about one of the most liberal states in the country, and republicans are fleeing it. The hard left in Minnesota loves this multi-culti crap- they will continue to welcome it with open arms with little resistance from the weakened right.
202 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:12pm |
203 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:38pm |
re: #184 CynicalConservative
Another flameout downthread; rough night.
5,00 plus karma and 7,000 plus posts and it explodes.
204 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:41:50pm |
re: #191 pink freud
While I’m on the topic, I will add that Al Jazeera has contributed $300,000 to the local university, University of Louisiana at Lafayette, for the construction of a new broadcasting studio for the Journalism Department.
They have also implemented a student exchange of “journalism” students from various Middle Eastern countries.
Oh, good grief.
205 | Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:43pm |
Shoe hurled as Chinese PM speaks
A protester has thrown a shoe at Wen Jiabao during a speech at Cambridge University and called the Chinese prime minister a “dictator”.
The shoe landed about a metre away from Mr Wen and the protester, a young man, was then removed by security guards.
/the fad sensation that’s sweepin’ the nation!
206 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:43pm |
re: #201 Sharmuta
You’re talking about one of the most liberal states in the country, and republicans are fleeing it. The hard left in Minnesota loves this multi-culti crap- they will continue to welcome it with open arms with little resistance from the weakened right.
I am not talking about politicians, I am talking about Jane and Joe Everyman, the citizens of the state and city where this nonsense is going on.
207 | CynicalConservative Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:46pm |
208 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:02pm |
209 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:14pm |
re: #192 sattv4u2
I beg to differ. Perhaps not HIM personally, but Nazis did not have any regard for the Negroid race!
And the Vietcong weren’t particularly kind to the Hmong. My point being, that by personalizing it, Ali missed the point. The Vietcong demonstrated that they were capable of astounding evil and cruelty - including “racially” (or, if you prefer, ethnically) motivated cruelty. They just didn’t demonstrate it toward Muhammad Ali or his race… so it’s okay? Of course not. Vlaams Belang has never uttered a word against me or my ethnicity, as far as I know. But I recognize them as evil. It’s not hard.
210 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:25pm |
re: #176 sattv4u2
agree ,, and updinged (and I’m of that era alos, BTW)
Thanks, you can probably tell that I do admire the man. He came from the bottom of the bottom.
/Oh, and that was truly the golden age of boxing. I do miss it.
211 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:32pm |
re: #201 Sharmuta
You’re talking about one of the most liberal states in the country, and republicans are fleeing it. The hard left in Minnesota loves this multi-culti crap- they will continue to welcome it with open arms with little resistance from the weakened right.
and when Minny folds they’ll move to the Dakotas and pervert those states…jus sayin
212 | CynicalConservative Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:34pm |
213 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:38pm |
re: #165 Miss Molly
If Minnesoto actually gets stuck with Weird Al as their Senator I wonder just how much time he will spend in Minnesoto as he seems to believe only Hollywood and New York are worth his attention. I wonder if he could even find his way back to Minnesoto once he leaves.
214 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:06pm |
re: #206 Wishing
I am not talking about politicians, I am talking about Jane and Joe Everyman, the citizens of the state and city where this nonsense is going on.
Jane and Joe Everyman of Minnesota are flaming liberals who welcome this shit.
215 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:13pm |
The Chinese are not going to like haveing shoe thrown at Mr. Wen. I don’t think anyone in China will be cheering about that.
216 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:55pm |
re: #196 Render
I would think the HAMAS leader, the guy screaming “I am HAMAS”, is a clear case of probable cause.
I translate that line as “I am a member of a mass murdering gang of terrorist thugs.”
===
Has Ellison made any public statement about this yet?
I
PRESUME,
R
1st legitimate question is he a citizen? If he is not then goodbye. If he naturalized within two years and concealed his affiliation then pulling it is I believe not complicated. If he is naturalized and lied on his application he can still be tossed out. Children born on US soil complicate things.
217 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:44:59pm |
re: #214 Sharmuta
Jane and Joe Everyman of Minnesota are flaming liberals who welcome this shit.
Even liberals know anti-semitism when they see it. Surely, you aren’t suggesting that liberals = anti-semites?
218 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:03pm |
re: #184 CynicalConservative
Another flameout downthread; rough night.
I’ll tell you one thing that I will admit that I have been pretty naive about. Bigotry and racism among people who think like I do. And I have been completely surprised by it.
I would have thought that folks who stand for this or that, would not put up with that or this.
But, I’ve seen it here on LGF. We have had some commenters go on until they suddenly slip, and most of the time, they come out with sic shooter pulled.
And that’s probably why I have become so sensitive to it happening here. And at times, I’ve acted like a jerk about it, and I have apologized.
But I’m not going to let it slide past me.
219 | avanti Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:10pm |
re: #193 MandyManners
There’s this little, old thing called the First Amendment.
I agree. Although flag burning offends me, it is political speech as are the nasty signs. I fear hate crime laws unless very carefully crafted. i.e. trolling the streets looking for a certain race to beat up could be charged as a hate crime, but hate speech or expression is pretty much protected.
220 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:51pm |
re: #210 The Shadow Do
Thanks, you can probably tell that I do admire the man. He came from the bottom of the bottom.
/Oh, and that was truly the golden age of boxing. I do miss it.
Two words killed it
DON KING
221 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:57pm |
re: #209 Occasional Reader
They just didn’t demonstrate it toward Muhammad Ali or his race
I should add: Apart from, of course, the black American servicemen they killed. But I guess Ali missed that part.
222 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:45:58pm |
223 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:46:17pm |
Even liberals know anti-semitism when they see it. Surely, you aren’t suggesting that liberals = anti-semites?
As I posted earlier, have you been in a Lutheran church lately? ELCA.
224 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:46:32pm |
Oh, good gravy. How long before he shows up at a stalker site?
225 | CynicalConservative Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:46:40pm |
re: #218 Walter L. Newton
I’ll tell you one thing that I will admit that I have been pretty naive about. Bigotry and racism among people who think like I do. And I have been completely surprised by it.
I would have thought that folks who stand for this or that, would not put up with that or this.
But, I’ve seen it here on LGF. We have had some commenters go on until they suddenly slip, and most of the time, they come out with sic shooter pulled.
And that’s probably why I have become so sensitive to it happening here. And at times, I’ve acted like a jerk about it, and I have apologized.
But I’m not going to let it slide past me.
Well said.
227 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:13pm |
re: #223 Dave the…..
As I posted earlier, have you been in a Lutheran church lately? ELCA.
Wow, now all Lutherans are liberal anti-semites. We sure do make great leaps!
228 | Maximu§ Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:27pm |
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’
Check out HR 645….we may all end up in a laborcamp one day.
229 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:47:55pm |
re: #182 Occasional Reader
While racism was no doubt a big factor is his life, the quote is actually quite dumb. I doubt any bona fide Nazi ever called him that, either. So what?
Plenty of average white Americans did. I was there.
230 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:48:23pm |
re: #228 Maximu§
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’
Check out HR 645….we may all end up in a laborcamp one day.
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
231 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:49:45pm |
re: #212 CynicalConservative
Maddogg
And I had to watch. Charles warned him but he would not listen. I hope Maddog comes to his senses someday and is allowed to return. But for now, he had to leave.
232 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:49:59pm |
re: #217 Wishing
The Road Less Traveled: Twin Cities Jews Discuss Their Journeys to anti-Zionism
This group protests against Israel constantly. This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about- where are the Minnesotans with counter protests to this group? Is there anyone in Minnesota standing up to this? If so- where are they?
233 | Maximu§ Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:02pm |
re: #230 Wishing
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
Thank God, that would be a warning shot across the bow for us Conservatives.
234 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:31pm |
re: #228 Maximu§
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’
Check out HR 645….we may all end up in a laborcamp one day.
Ummmm..
A site designated as a national emergency center shall be—
(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
Let’s not get all black-helicoptery, folks.
235 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:33pm |
re: #230 Wishing
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
Proof that Impeachment does not keep a bad man down.
236 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:50:53pm |
237 | Elcid Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:51:06pm |
Have these insects (including Islamist Ellison) been told, that Franken had a Jewish upbringing?
OR is Franken, kind of a George Soros person that had “a Jewish upbringing”?
238 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:51:11pm |
re: #221 Occasional Reader
I should add: Apart from, of course, the black American servicemen they killed. But I guess Ali missed that part.
No he didn’t. The part he ‘missed” was the same part millions of othre Vietnam era protesters “missed” Unlike WW1, WW2 and to a lesser extent Korea, her an others couldn’t see an end game. Couldn’t see a defined mission. The pols never let the armed services conduct a war. get shot at, but don’t shoot back because the shots came fromk THAT side of a river. Clean out a village but DON’T decimate it. His line was a throw away line
239 | albusteve Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:51:44pm |
re: #229 The Shadow Do
Plenty of average white Americans did. I was there.
ali is an idiot…he’s certainly not schooled in political PR..let him alone and give him a pass on his disgressions back then
240 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:52:04pm |
re: #228 Maximu§
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’
Check out HR 645….we may all end up in a laborcamp one day.
Sponsored by a Dem. And what was all the “truther” types saying about the Bush administration about having camps set up?
More like they were trying to set us up as to the audaucity (sp?) of that idea, so we wouldn’t think about it anymore.
241 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:52:16pm |
How could Al Franken have an “upbringing”? I don’t even think he has a brain.
242 | Maximu§ Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:52:50pm |
re: #234 Occasional Reader
Let’s not get all black-helicoptery, folks.
Its not paranoia to pay attantion to upcoming bills and this part got my attention:
(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
243 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:53:06pm |
re: #234 Occasional Reader
Let’s not get all black-helicoptery, folks.
Updinged.
Thank you! I got this in an email yesterday and just a cursory check of the bill and its purpose puts a lot of the silliness to rest. People WANT to panic, I think.
Sigh.
244 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:53:30pm |
re: #233 Maximu§
Thank God, that would be a warning shot across the bow for us Conservatives.
No, a warning shot for any American against this sort of shit. I suspect it was testing the temperature of the “Water.”
245 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:53:49pm |
re: #237 Elcid
Have these insects (including Islamist Ellison) been told, that Franken had a Jewish upbringing?
OR is Franken, kind of a George Soros person that had “a Jewish upbringing”?
Franken was born in New York City, the son of Phoebe G. Kunst, a homemaker and real estate agent, and Joseph P. Franken, a printing salesman.[12][13] Franken had a Jewish upbringing[14] and grew up in St. Louis Park, a suburb near Minneapolis. He is a cousin of MSNBC’s Bob Franken,[15] and his older brother, Owen Franken, is a photojournalist. Franken attended St. Louis Park High School until the tenth grade. He graduated in 1969 from The Blake School, where he was on the wrestling team. He attended Harvard College and graduated cum laude in 1973 with a bachelor of arts degree in political science.[16] At Harvard, Franken washed dishes as a participant in the work-study program with Richard Honaker, who was nominated by U.S. President George W. Bush in 2007 as one of three U.S. District Judges from Wyoming.[17]
246 | jcbunga Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:54:13pm |
It occurs to me that if you tried to burn a pile of leaves in Minnesota, the carbon footprint huggers would have you arrested.
Flags are OK.
247 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:54:24pm |
248 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:54:47pm |
Ug - are we watching the seeds of another civil war? I hope not.
However this crap is getting out of hand.
249 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:21pm |
re: #238 sattv4u2
Couldn’t see a defined mission.
I have never, ever heard that view of the Vietnam War attributed to Ali. That’s a Vietnam Vet’s critique of the war, not his. He refused to serve because “war is against the teachings of the Holy Q’uran”. His words, not mine. And then that “no Vietcong ever called me…” quote.
Anyway, it’s bedtime. Good night.
250 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:22pm |
re: #248 Bobibutu
Ug - are we watching the seeds of another civil war? I hope not.
However this crap is getting out of hand.
Hmmmmm…
251 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:22pm |
252 | wolfie Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:29pm |
re: #221 Occasional Reader
I may be senile, but I thought Ali never served in Vietnam. I thought the reason he had to leave boxing was because he went to jail rather than serve and boxing has some rule about felons not being able to box for a while after a felony rap or after run-on sentences or both.
253 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:55:48pm |
re: #232 Sharmuta
The Road Less Traveled: Twin Cities Jews Discuss Their Journeys to anti-Zionism
This group protests against Israel constantly. This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about- where are the Minnesotans with counter protests to this group? Is there anyone in Minnesota standing up to this? If so- where are they?
254 | reine.de.tout Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:56:00pm |
re: #252 wolfie
I may be senile, but I thought Ali never served in Vietnam. I thought the reason he had to leave boxing was because he went to jail rather than serve and boxing has some rule about felons not being able to box for a while after a felony rap or after run-on sentences or both.
I think you are correct.
255 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:56:01pm |
re: #252 wolfie
I may be senile, but I thought Ali never served in Vietnam. I thought the reason he had to leave boxing was because he went to jail rather than serve and boxing has some rule about felons not being able to box for a while after a felony rap or after run-on sentences or both.
LOLOL
256 | wolfie Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:56:03pm |
re: #224 MandyManners
Oh, good gravy. How long before he shows up at a stalker site?
Muhammed Ali? Holy carp!
258 | J.S. Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:56:42pm |
re: #8 rawmuse
The same thing is happening in Canada — there are all sorts of programs to get them over here…yeah, what we really, really need — more HAMAS supporters…particularly in an economic downturn…Really, really smart. (and the record levels of immigration into Canada is occurring under Harper’s watch, a “conservative.”)
260 | Occasional Reader Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:57:37pm |
re: #252 wolfie
I may be senile, but I thought Ali never served in Vietnam.
Um, I never said he did.
Good night, again.
261 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:57:44pm |
re: #251 Dustyvet
I bet the parrot makes neat helicopter sounds…:)
Nope…
1) Chicken (“berk, berk, berk, berk, caaaaa….”)
2) Laugh (heaheahehaheaheah”)
3) Crow (“ca,ca,ca,ca,ca”)
4) Dog (“grrrrrrrr, grrrrrr”)
5) Siren (“oooweeeep, ooooweep, oooweep”)
6 WHAT!
262 | yesandno Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:58:24pm |
re: #230 Wishing
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
Alcee Hastings? The wolf in sheep’s clothing. And they think Republicans steal freedoms…..
263 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:58:28pm |
Wishing, go to the ELCA web site. Go to the various divisions. Even my parents church’s newsletter. The leadership of that church is wacked (and big fans of Arafat).
265 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:58:43pm |
re: #239 albusteve
ali is an idiot…he’s certainly not schooled in political PR..let him alone and give him a pass on his disgressions back then
He is not an idiot. He knew what he was saying then and he has no reason to recant now. The only transgression was perpetrated by the government. Ali was a bona fide CO and not a dodger as some would make it out today.
He did not run away to Canada as the cowards did at the time. He said this was not his war and he was unwilling to fight it. He accepted the consequences.
266 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:58:46pm |
Hey y’all - sorry to be late again - what’s going on - what are we talking about - Ellison, Franken ?!?
267 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:58:53pm |
269 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:59:13pm |
271 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:59:34pm |
273 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:59:46pm |
274 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:00:06pm |
re: #263 Dave the…..
Wishing, go to the ELCA web site. Go to the various divisions. Even my parents church’s newsletter. The leadership of that church is wacked (and big fans of Arafat).
He’s dead, Jim.
275 | Render Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:00:15pm |
Would it ruin the illusion if we told them that the black helicopters really exist, and we even know where they’re based?
160TH SOAR,
R
276 | MandyManners Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:00:48pm |
278 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:00:58pm |
re: #253 Bobibutu
That’s more a war on terror support group. A good start, but I don’t think they’re focus is on the islamic threat in their state, but I’ll contact them and learn more.
279 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:01:00pm |
re: #239 albusteve
ali is an idiot…he’s certainly not schooled in political PR..let him alone and give him a pass on his disgressions back then
I suggest you read about him, especially his early life (pre-olympic champ)
280 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:25pm |
re: #263 Dave the…..
Wishing, go to the ELCA web site. Go to the various divisions. Even my parents church’s newsletter. The leadership of that church is wacked (and big fans of Arafat).
Don’t get me started with the *church* and its stance on Jews/anti-semitism. In fact, “we aint seen nothin yet”, imo. But I will not go so far as to lump tens of thousands of people with that broad brush. In fact, I think there was somewhat of a split over this very issue with the Lutherans, though that may have been the Episcopalians. There are some in every group, be it Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc who will side with the anti-semites, but not ALL.
281 | lifeofthemind Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:27pm |
re: #240 Walter L. Newton
Sponsored by a Dem. And what was all the “truther” types saying about the Bush administration about having camps set up?
More like they were trying to set us up as to the audaucity (sp?) of that idea, so we wouldn’t think about it anymore.
My best line from last Friday.
Another name in Washington for a wild and outrageous rumor that is immediately debunked is a “Trial Balloon.”
282 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:27pm |
283 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:35pm |
re: #272 pink freud
Maizie.
I vacuumed Maisey’s cage today with the shop vac (she has a five foot hight cage). I always take her OUT of the cage first, and put her on top, or else she will try to fight with the vacuum hose, which in the case of a small 5 gallon shop vac, would be equivalent to sucking a parrot with about 20 psi.
Then you have to hit the hose against something to shake her out.
284 | Killian Bundy Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:02:40pm |
Rotary Club a ‘threat’ to Islam
INDONESIAN Islamic hardliners have called for a ban on international organisations the Rotary Club and the Lions Club, saying they are part of a Zionist conspiracy, reports said today.
The People’s Ulema Forum (FUU) said the clubs were “infidel” fronts for Freemasonry and the world Zionist movement and threatened Islam in the world’s most populous Muslim country.
“They gather funds and give them to America and the Israeli Zionists,” FUU chairman Atian Ali Mohammad Da’i was quoted as saying in The Jakarta Globe daily.
“We urge all Muslims to renounce membership in the Rotary Club and the Lions Club. Otherwise they can consider themselves infidels.”
He called on President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to ban the groups.
/see also: Hamas Charter (Article 22)
285 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:03:03pm |
re: #273 Dustyvet
I’m sorry to hear he’s still in the hospital Dusty - please send me an e-mail as soon as you can.
286 | wolfie Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:03:25pm |
re: #265 The Shadow Do
He wasn’t a “bona fide CO,” since he wasn’t a pacifist. But I agree w/ your general assessment. He wasn’t a draft dodger. He acted like a man about it and never dodged the consequences. You gotta respect that, IMO.
287 | avanti Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:03:40pm |
re: #230 Wishing
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
He was impeached once, shame he came back around again.
288 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:03:43pm |
re: #285 realwest
I’m sorry to hear he’s still in the hospital Dusty - please send me an e-mail as soon as you can.
okays.
289 | phillygirl Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:04:26pm |
re: #230 Wishing
It was not passed, it was submitted for consideration by Alcee Hastings.
Good grief - remember his brilliant remarks during the Presidential campaign:
An African-American congressman from Florida is apologizing for his comment that black and Jewish voters should not support Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
290 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:04:33pm |
re: #284 Killian Bundy
Rotary Club a ‘threat’ to Islam
/see also: Hamas Charter (Article 22)
Ah shit, they found out.
/
291 | blangwort Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:04:52pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
It doesn’t matter. Dismissing them as stupid is like saying “don’t worry, they aren’t worth listening to.”
And they go right on doing what they do, while we turn our back, because they are just stupid, nothing to see here… move on…
No, we have to start recognizing all these people as dangerous, well funded and on target.
Well put. The LLL would label anyone who doesn’t agree with them as “stupid” and act as if they don’t matter. That’s a BIG mistake. Hopefully no fellow lizards would be that foolish. Whether they’re stupid or not, it doesn’t matter. They exist. They think this way. They will act accordingly.
Oh, and one other thing: We see the Israeli flag and the US flag burned regularly. Why? Because they know they can. But we know better. We’ll tolerate burning the flag. It’s just a symbol. We can always make more. But we also take note of who these people are. If they’re ever so foolish as to do something awful, they’d better be looking over their shoulders. We have developed the technology to shrink this world to a global village. And there aren’t many places where they can hide.
292 | nyc redneck Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:05:08pm |
we can’t allow these animals to become confident that their barbarism is welcome here.
it is a vile ugliness. a burgeoning evil.
not welcome in civilized society. they offer nothing nothing.
we have to find a way to push these animals back.
they are a horrid darkness in a civilized world.
293 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:06:09pm |
294 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:06:11pm |
You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of this radical idiots start claiming that western styled toilets are a Zionist conspiracy.
/
295 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:07:04pm |
Flying Pig moment at the NYT?
IRAQ’S peaceful elections and strong voter turnout last weekend were a major success for both that country and the United States — not that there was much celebration in American news coverage.
The elections could also redefine Iran’s role in the region. Critics of the Iraq war claimed that overthrowing Saddam Hussein in 2003 strengthened Iran’s position. Had we left Mr. Hussein in power, the theory goes, Iran would be less of a global threat. This argument is fundamentally wrong.
Long before the American ouster of Mr. Hussein, Iran was supporting terrorist groups like Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank. It was seeking hegemony in Syria and Lebanon, and was well along in its clandestine program to acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. After Mr. Hussein’s conviction and execution, Iran increased efforts to advance its radical brand of Shiite Islam in Iraq. But the success of the election should substantially retard those efforts.
Mr. Hussein defended his repressive regime — and his pursuit of weapons of mass destruction — in the name of protecting Arab nations from Iran. Western critics of Mr. Hussein’s removal are basically parroting the arguments of a tyrant. Surely some other Iraqi government could have advanced the Arab cause without invading Kuwait, or using chemical weapons against its own citizens.
Iraq’s provincial elections actually weaken Tehran’s hand.
296 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:07:29pm |
re: #293 pink freud
LOL!
I enjoy your Maisey stories, Walter. :-)
Thanks. They are all true (well, partly).
297 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:07:30pm |
re: #261 Walter L. Newton
Nope…
1) Chicken (“berk, berk, berk, berk, caaaaa….”)
2) Laugh (heaheahehaheaheah”)
3) Crow (“ca,ca,ca,ca,ca”)
4) Dog (“grrrrrrrr, grrrrrr”)
5) Siren (“oooweeeep, ooooweep, oooweep”)
6 WHAT!
Had one (a rescue) that did quite a gig.
Big Dog - woof
Little dog - arf
Sheep - Baaaaa
The chicken - etc.
on and on till finally -
Mother-in-law - Bulbulbulblblb
Had to send (donate) Obie Wan to the San Diego Wild Animal Park because he had a propensity to scream - that was audible for a significant distance in the neighborhood.
And he would not shut up.
Beautiful bird tho.
298 | jaunte Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:07:53pm |
The Rotarian Menace
What does Osama have against Rotary clubs?
“For Americans, of course, this seems slightly comic. Rotary clubs? Aren’t they like the Elks, except less edgy?”
[Link: www.slate.com…]
299 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:08:17pm |
re: #294 Walter L. Newton
You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of this radical idiots start claiming that western styled toilets are a Zionist conspiracy.
/
And TP. Need to use your hand, right?
300 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:08:19pm |
301 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:08:28pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
(and your craigslist stories also ….)
302 | blangwort Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:08:41pm |
re: #294 Walter L. Newton
You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of this radical idiots start claiming that western styled toilets are a Zionist conspiracy.
/
I hope they do just that. It would put a stop to so many loud mouthed, meaningless protests. They’d be too sick to care. I couldn’t wish anything better upon them than that.
303 | pat Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:08:49pm |
There are no more self-hating Americans than Minnesotans. Not perverts, or weirdos, they honestly hate themselves and the country for being white and successful. So this does not surprise me. It is almost as if they want to be tormented and destroyed.
305 | Sharmuta Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:09:48pm |
Also keep in mind that a part of Keith Ellison’s Congressional district has a large community of Jews. He won that area handily.
I think the problem is liberal nihilism, not just in Minnesota (where it’s strong) but it’s nationwide. Think back to the chompsky thread the other day- it’s the same sort of mentality. These leftists think Americans have no right to defend themselves. Our enemies have a legitimate grievance in their eyes, and how dare we think or behave otherwise! Multicultural nihilistic liberalism- it’s running amuck in Minnesota, and it’s heading your way soon.
306 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:10:34pm |
re: #303 pat
There are no more self-hating Americans than Minnesotans. Not perverts, or weirdos, they honestly hate themselves and the country for being white and successful. So this does not surprise me. It is almost as if they want to be tormented and destroyed.
Whasup wit dat shit?
307 | Wishing Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:11:43pm |
re: #306 The Shadow Do
Whasup wit dat shit?
Self-hating Americans. Self-hating Jews.
Are there other self-hating groups, or just these two?
308 | Miss Molly Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:11:50pm |
Pat - yes, what is this kind of thinking? Enquiring minds would like to know.
309 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:12:22pm |
re: #295 NJDhockeyfan
Flying Pig moment at the NYT?
Not truly flying pig. John Bolton wrote the op-ed in question. The stunning thing is tha the times actually published something he said. If we win in 2012, John Bolton should be made Secretary of State.
310 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:12:40pm |
re: #297 Bobibutu
Maisey is a red-lored Amazon, green with a red tuff over her eyes (faded, she’s over 20 years old). Red-lored Amazons don’t talk much but they imitate a lot of other animal sounds.
The only word she says is “what.”
311 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:13:20pm |
re: #307 Wishing
Self-hating Americans. Self-hating Jews.
Are there other self-hating groups, or just these two?
Don’t get it. Too old to learn I ‘spose.
312 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:13:28pm |
re: #303 pat
There are no more self-hating Americans than Minnesotans. Not perverts, or weirdos, they honestly hate themselves and the country for being white and successful. So this does not surprise me. It is almost as if they want to be tormented and destroyed.
My Grandma and her family who emigrated to Minn/StPaul in the late 1800s (from Norway) are spinning in their graves.
313 | esch Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:13:29pm |
re: #303 pat
There are no more self-hating Americans than Minnesotans. Not perverts, or weirdos, they honestly hate themselves and the country for being white and successful. So this does not surprise me. It is almost as if they want to be tormented and destroyed.
I’m really repressing a GFY here.
The problem is the out-of-control welfare and immigration, and the extremist left U culture. I know a number of honest patriotic Minnesotans. But we’re all quietly busy working and being responsible.
314 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:13:42pm |
re: #301 pink freud
(and your craigslist stories also ….)
I have a new one. Want to hear it? I’ll have to post it in two pieces. My personal ad and a reply.
315 | Dave the..... Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:14:21pm |
Wishing, I’m not saying Lutherans are bigots. I’m saying the leadership of the ELCA is. My entire family belongs to that church. They all think it’s still 1950 and it’s just a bunch of crazy Norwegians sitting around, eating Lutefisk and making Ole and Lena jokes. I’m probably the only one that can even find Israel on map. Much of the leadership comes form Minnesota and Wisconsin, and hates the Jewish state. this is the church that voted to “study” a boycott of Jew made goods. Ask the Simon Weisenthal center.
316 | yenta-fada Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:04pm |
re: #258 J.S.
I don’t think Harper can be blamed for an immigration civil service nightmare that has been ongoing for the past 2 decades that have read and heard about. A aquaintance who was fairly senior in the organization told me the following when I asked about a friend who wanted to move to Canada: “Tell her to lose all her skills and move to a third world country. That’s what Canada seems to want.”
317 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:13pm |
re: #314 Walter L. Newton
I have a new one. Want to hear it? I’ll have to post it in two pieces. My personal ad and a reply.
Well of course I do!
318 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:50pm |
re: #317 pink freud
Well of course I do!
My post…
For 2009, I recommend that both men and women who are looking for that “special one,” to raise their expectations. I know I am.
Don’t hope, but KNOW that your partner will be sexy and good looking. I don’t mean good looking like GQ or sexy like Maxim, because those “models” rarely exist in everyday life. Know that you will find something special about your partner, which looks good to you and something that no one else has. And sexy is what you make your partner feel like in intimate situations. If looking sexy is your only gauge to sexuality, then you really don’t have an emotional connection to your lover. Looking sexy and being sexy is like night and day.
Don’t hope, but KNOW your partner will be loving. Loving what you both have, not what you both want. What you see in the first few moments of a new relationship is usually what you will be getting for the long term. If adjustments need to be made, in a honest relationship, most of the time they will happen on their own.
Don’t hope, but KNOW your partner will be perfect. Perfect for you, not for your family or friends, not for some preconceived Hollywood fiction or not for some “Penthouse Forum” entry. Don’t bring these outside influences with you on a date or into your personal space, they will only get in the way of your heart.
Don’t hope, but KNOW that your relationship will be like a romance novel and then laugh with each other when that doesn’t happen. There is a difference between being serious and taking each other too seriously.
I don’t think these needs have changed much since I was born in 1952, but I do believe that we have lost sight of what really matters. I feel many men and women have let themselves be taken hostage by shallow ideas, valueless expectations and useless advice.
Of course, this is only my opinion. It’s the way I approach dating and relationships but you will have to decide for yourself if it has any meaning for you.
Send me an email if you are interested in talking. I am 56, very single and not ready pack it in yet. I work in the arts, I’m an old-soul, bohemian, life lover and love giver.
319 | wolfie Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:32pm |
re: #307 Wishing
Self-hating Americans. Self-hating Jews.
Are there other self-hating groups, or just these two?
Self-hating Brits. Self-hating Europeans.
Seems to be a Western thing.
320 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:58pm |
re: #317 pink freud
Well of course I do!
your ad attracted me, especially when i read the part about bohemian, old-soul, life lover and giver…and your positive takes. i also agree that i will find my soul mate—or bettah—this year. do you know that the number 9 is a whole number, a complete number? my teen daughter was born on the 9th, as well. a great number.
speaking of numbers, what’s your sign? i’m an aries with libra and gemini, meaning… a lot of thingys…independent, creative (i do art as well as write creative nonfiction and children’s stories), playful, playful, and playful. i shop organic and am healthy, i walk every day and do some yoga.
i’m into hot springs and can show you the best of the best. (creme de la creme!) i’m not quite as ancient as you—kidding—yet i’m fairly ancient at 53. otherwise i’m very youthful, involved in lots of cool, spiritual thingys like dancing, talking until the week hours of the morning about cool stuff and doing/experimenting with various things like seeing indian gurus, breathing classes and get togethers for solstice.
so how about you, guy? love to know more. can’t send a photo through CL, glad to send one to your regular email.
blessings,
[name redacted by me]
Yep, should I “play” with this? I think I’ll start with Kabalah.
322 | The Shadow Do Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:48pm |
re: #310 Walter L. Newton
Maisey is a red-lored Amazon, green with a red tuff over her eyes (faded, she’s over 20 years old). Red-lored Amazons don’t talk much but they imitate a lot of other animal sounds.
[Link: home.comcast.net…]
The only word she says is “what.”
Why, she is just a kid! (I have parrots)
Had a friend who adopted a MacCaw. Had it for about a month. Learned it would live for 120 plus years. Got rid of it. “Damned if I will have a pet that will outlive me!”
324 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:21:37pm |
re: #318 Walter L. Newton
….very single and not ready TO pack it in yet.
(sorry! I proofread for a living sometimes.)
Well, Walter, you are a braver soul than me. That’s a thoughtful and well-composed introduction, packed with insights into your character. I would be veeery hesitant to fish for a partner on craigslist, though, but I know from reading your posts for a very long time that you have had some success.
And, I wish you the best in your search.
325 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:14pm |
re: #310 Walter L. Newton
Maisey is a red-lored Amazon, green with a red tuff over her eyes (faded, she’s over 20 years old). Red-lored Amazons don’t talk much but they imitate a lot of other animal sounds.
[Link: home.comcast.net…]
The only word she says is “what.”
Obviously wanting more input?
/
We had a Cacatu (also rescue) named Peaches - sweet baby - used to put her under the covers and let her roam - those sharp talons would turn on my lady fair to no end.
Yeah - weird but what the hell. Birds rule.
326 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:20pm |
re: #313 esch
Hey esch! Listen - you said “The problem is the out-of-control welfare and immigration, and the extremist left U culture.” and while I confess to not knowing much - actual nothing at all about Minn. welfare situation, what is the immigration problem you’re alluding to?
Cause I mean NO OFFENSE to any Minn Lizards when I say that I think Minn. may be the 3rd or 4th most liberal state in the nation (behind California New York and perhaps Wisconsin, although the fact that Minn has elected Keith Ellison and probably Al Franken would - in my mind - put it waaaay ahead of Wisconsin - and frankly California and NY have enormous illegal immigration problems.
Thus the fact that this “demonstration happened there doesn’t surprise me more than to hear it happened in Berkley or Manhattan.
327 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:27pm |
re: #322 The Shadow Do
Why, she is just a kid! (I have parrots)
Had a friend who adopted a MacCaw. Had it for about a month. Learned it would live for 120 plus years. Got rid of it. “Damned if I will have a pet that will outlive me!”
Oh, I know. She’s young, in parrot lifetimes. The ex-wife got the maccaw, it was a red-fronted (got this thing for red-tuffed parrots). Red Fronted Maccaws are the smallest of the Maccaws, but then, that’s still about a yard long.
328 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:03pm |
re: #325 Bobibutu
Obviously wanting more input?
/
We had a Cacatu (also rescue) named Peaches - sweet baby - used to put her under the covers and let her roam - those sharp talons would turn on my lady fair to no end.
Yeah - weird but what the hell. Birds rule.
I’ve seen parrot owners with their parrots at the supermarket, with the parrot perched on the shopping cart.
329 | Tom Taylor Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:52pm |
What a nice bunch of people…
We should make our flags from asbestos!
330 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:46pm |
re: #320 Walter L. Newton
Yes! But you must tell me how it goes.
331 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:47pm |
re: #324 pink freud
That’s for the edit. I missed that. And I was very careful. I’m a typical writer, always need a good editor.
332 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:54pm |
re: #323 captwfcall
londonistan.
A must read.
If you don’t have time for the book, Melanie Phillips columns are excellent also.
333 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:27:21pm |
re: #320 Walter L. Newton
i’m into hot springs and can show you the best of the best. (creme de la creme!) i’m not quite as ancient as you—kidding—yet i’m fairly ancient at 53. otherwise i’m very youthful, involved in lots of cool, spiritual thingys like dancing, talking until the week hours of the morning about cool stuff and doing/experimenting with various things like seeing indian gurus, breathing classes and get togethers for solstice.
so how about you, guy? love to know more. can’t send a photo through CL, glad to send one to your regular email.
blessings,
[name redacted by me]
Yep, should I “play” with this? I think I’ll start with Kabalah.
One of the best HS is on the Alcan Hwy about 250 miles (east-SE) from Whitehorse. Discovered by the US Army back in the 40s - the top pool will ring your bell forever - catch it at night during a full moon.
334 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:40pm |
re: #333 Bobibutu
One of the best HS is on the Alcan Hwy about 250 miles (east-SE) from Whitehorse. Discovered by the US Army back in the 40s - the top pool will ring your bell forever - catch it at night during a full moon.
What country, state?
335 | esch Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:51pm |
Conservatives need to give up ‘playing nice’. We know better than the ignorant, idiotic socialists. History and reason are on our side.
It’s OUR FAULT things have gotten to the way they are. “All that is required for evil to flourish…” is entirely apt, because we have done practically NOTHING to prevent it. Well. Rush and a couple of others have done quite a bit. But it doesn’t mean much without most conservatives willing to stand up and actually fight as well, unpopularity and scorn be damned.
Socialism, ‘economic and social justice’, all forms of cultural suicide need to be dragged out kicking and screaming into the light of scorn and ridicule and exposed for what they are. Over and over again, by all conservatives.
336 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:24pm |
re: #333 Bobibutu
One of the best HS is on the Alcan Hwy about 250 miles (east-SE) from Whitehorse. Discovered by the US Army back in the 40s - the top pool will ring your bell forever - catch it at night during a full moon.
Anyone want to take bets. Hair on the armpits?
337 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:37pm |
re: #329 Tom Taylor
What a nice bunch of people…
We should make our flags from asbestos!
Because, as Dennis Miller said (1) they won’t burn and (2) those who wrap themselves in them will contract asbestos poisoning.
338 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:55pm |
re: #335 esch
Hi esch - could you please look at my #326? Thanks a lot.
339 | Bob Dillon Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:32:17pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
I’ve seen parrot owners with their parrots at the supermarket, with the parrot perched on the shopping cart.
340 | esch Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:33:27pm |
re: #326 realwest
Many of the ‘refugee’ groups the U.S. has taken on in the last 50 years have had a sizable portion of the imported population end up here for the absurdly overgenerous welfare benefits. We have whole large sections of the two cities devoted to the different imported groups. Especially the Hmong and Somalis. Not to say there aren’t grateful honest hardworking members of all of those groups, but the statistics of gang violence, drugs, multi-generational welfare enrollment speak for themselves.
341 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:33:51pm |
re: #336 Walter L. Newton
With a reply like hers, do you need to ask?
Yes. I’m also guessing sports car, tasteful but minimalist makeup, self-created gemstone and crystal jewelry and a musk Kiehl perfume.
342 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:45pm |
re: #337 solomonpanting
Wonder what would happen if a bunch of folks had a demonstration, the centerpiece of which was the burning of the Hamas flag? Think the MSM would cover it?
And then, of course, we follow up by writing letters to the editors of all papers and TV stations that carry any negative commentary when they didn’t carry any negative commentary on topic of this thread.
343 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:53pm |
re: #339 Bobibutu
[Video]
Please, that parrot gets TOO much airtime. He’s always on the back of a chair. I think someone is pinching his feet.
344 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:49pm |
re: #341 pink freud
With a reply like hers, do you need to ask?
Yes. I’m also guessing sports car, tasteful but minimalist makeup, self-created gemstone and crystal jewelry and a musk Kiehl perfume.
I also guessing first date… score (patchouli optional).
345 | NY Nana Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:44pm |
re: #316 yenta-fada
I admire PM Harper, and hope he will win in the upcoming election. I would not put the blame on him at all. Bureaucracies world-wide seem to be very much alike, but a friend of Israel like PM Harper is very hard to find, especially with what we have as The One now…
346 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:41:04pm |
347 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:42:27pm |
re: #340 esch Well I surely do sypathize with any American living in any state with overly generous welfare benefits, and I’m not surprised THAT much at the Somali’s, but I am at the Hmong - they were our allies in Vietnam - but those must be SOME kinda incredible to get groups from extremley hot and humid climates to go to Minn.
Wasn’t Minneapolis where the Somali cab drivers refused to pick up people with dogs - even people with seeing eye dogs? Whatever happended to that?
348 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:42:32pm |
re: #342 realwest
Wonder what would happen if a bunch of folks had a demonstration, the centerpiece of which was the burning of the Hamas flag? Think the MSM would cover it?
And then, of course, we follow up by writing letters to the editors of all papers and TV stations that carry any negative commentary when they didn’t carry any negative commentary on topic of this thread.
Well, for starters…
CAIR would demand an investigation into a hate crime, Obama would call for restraint on all sides, college campuses would hold Hamas solidarity vigils, Hamas exploding talking heads would make both the lecture and late-night television circuts, and leaders of the demonstration would be hauled before a Congressional committee on charges of inciting violence and Islamophobia.
349 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:43:45pm |
re: #348 solomonpanting
Well, for starters…
CAIR would demand an investigation into a hate crime, Obama would call for restraint on all sides, college campuses would hold Hamas solidarity vigils, Hamasexplodingtalking heads would make both the lecture and late-night television circuts, and leaders of the demonstration would be hauled before a Congressional committee on charges of inciting violence and Islamophobia.
Cair can go bite a lamppost
350 | NY Nana Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:45:20pm |
351 | esch Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:26pm |
re: #347 realwest
I don’t recall what happened on that one. A lot of stuff is going on, it’s hard to keep track.
I’m tempted to have to have my uncle teach me some yiddish, so I can yank their chain when I go in their stores.
352 | solomonpanting Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:34pm |
353 | Dustyvet Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:41pm |
re: #347 realwest
Well I surely do sypathize with any American living in any state with overly generous welfare benefits, and I’m not surprised THAT much at the Somali’s, but I am at the Hmong - they were our allies in Vietnam - but those must be SOME kinda incredible to get groups from extremley hot and humid climates to go to Minn.
Wasn’t Minneapolis where the Somali cab drivers refused to pick up people with dogs - even people with seeing eye dogs? Whatever happended to that?
The Minneapolis Airport Commission took on the problem and beat the sods at their own game. I’ll hunt up the article and email it to you.
354 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:50:29pm |
re: #350 NY Nana
Uh, were you possibly looking for this? ;)
[Video]
“You told me it was shagged out after a long score”
355 | Tom Taylor Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:51:08pm |
Because, as Dennis Miller said (1) they won’t burn and (2) those who wrap themselves in them will contract asbestos poisoning.
Mkay - what about printed pig skin? They will not touch it - they will not burn it…and a Jew would just be a bit trefe until a mikveh
356 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:51:44pm |
Walter, a question if you are still monitoring the thread:
If she were a stone cold liberal, would that be a deal breaker?
(not regarding sex, but regarding “keeper” status)
357 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:57:31pm |
re: #356 pink freud
Walter, a question if you are still monitoring the thread:
If she were a stone cold liberal, would that be a deal breaker?
(not regarding sex, but regarding “keeper” status)
No, I find liberals make good partners as long as they can keep the disagreements civil. And I had a very liberal girlfriend (ok, anarchist) and it work out fine, for a couple of years. We did not break up because of her being a liberal, it was because I found out she was a racist (Hispanics).
359 | SFGoth Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:59:34pm |
re: #58 Miss Molly
When is the American Jewish Community finally going to get just how serious and wide spread these groups are? We all need to take a tough stand against this now as it is going to get much worse down the line.
Never.
360 | realwest Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:59:55pm |
re: #348 solomonpanting
Well I wish I lived in Minn then cause that’s what I’d do. Mofo’s can’t censure me on grounds of speech - unlike Canada we do have Freedom of Speech here -and we are protected by it under the First Amendmet from the Feds and the States and they would NOT want me testifying in front of any congressional panels.
Cause I’d tell the truth and screw them if they didn’t like it. And I’d tell them to screw off, too. In public and hopefully on Camera.
Maybe wake some American’s up with a lesson in American History while I’m at it.
Man, I’d be their worst effin’ nightmare!
361 | pink freud Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:02:47pm |
re: #357 Walter L. Newton
The way I see it is that one’s political outlook is merely a reflection of their life-views and philosophy. I believe that would ultimately prove toxic to a life-partner relationship.
It’s a values thing.
/otoh, maybe I’ve gotten too rigid of late …
362 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:04:02pm |
re: #358 mattm
Why don’t you delete that yourself before Charles deletes your account all together.
That’s bigoted.
363 | TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:07:31pm |
re: #362 Walter L. Newton
Why don’t you delete that yourself before Charles deletes your account all together.
That’s bigoted.
I didn’t know we could delete our own posts?
364 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:09:54pm |
365 | twincitiesgirl Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:12:06pm |
re: #60 Sharmuta
And that’s not even the whole of the islamic presence in Minnesota. One of the first areas the Muslim Student Association moved to was the University of Minnesota decades ago.
And remember the airport issues, and the Target clerks- this isn’t a surprise to me. The bleeding heart liberals who would vote for a moron like Al Franken are the same people who think this multi-cultural nihilism is great!
They always target the universities, not just in Minnesota.
/so many open minds don’t you know.
367 | jordash1212 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 12:10:21am |
Did anyone else laugh when Rep. Ellison got booed? I’m glad he was trying to take a bit more objective approach, but still… the Obama rhetoric is just too much. Not to mention he was a “guest speaker” for the Fatah party protesters. What a goofball.
I don’t want to think about what he really thinks and what he says behind closed doors.
369 | hro001 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 1:49:44am |
re: #342 realwest
Wonder what would happen if a bunch of folks had a demonstration, the centerpiece of which was the burning of the Hamas flag? Think the MSM would cover it?
Burn the Hamas flag?! Are you kidding?! CAIR would be banging on the courtroom door wailing about “Islamaphobia” - faster than BHO could utter his usual platitudinous calls for “respect”!
371 | bse5150 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 6:42:48am |
What happened to hate crimes? If I carried a sign up the steps of the capital saying KILL HOMOS, wouldn’t I be convicted? Are there no Jewish Lawyers who can use legal means to bring the hammer down on this nonsense?
372 | _RememberTonyC Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:01:06am |
watching that video almost makes one think that fatah really is moderate. however, there is no way that any thinking person could really believe it … right? So I guess that means our government does not consist of thinking people when it comes to this subject.
373 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:14:21am |
re: #32 Taqiyyotomist
I’m still wondering about the grammatical-correctness of “who forsook whom.”
Is that right?
“Who forsook whom?” is correct. But here’s one to separate the true grammar mavens from the poseurs:
“The whole controversy depends on [who/whom] was forsaken by [who/whom] the worst, and has nothing to do with [who/whom] the aforementioned forsaking was done by first.”
374 | Muadib Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:15:29am |
Go to hell Hamas. Shame on the sick idiots that support them.
375 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:36:39am |
re: #368 ploome hineni
Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: ˈbi-gət
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
Ecch, it left out the best part (albeit a controversial part) of the etymology! Namely, that the French bigot is frequently explained as being based on a froggified pronunciation of the English phrase “by God.”
In fact, this is likely one of those too-good-to-be-true etymologies, but its popularity has endured — possibly because it reminds people of a different French slang term, les goddams — a disparaging term for English speakers whose etymology is self-evident and not a matter of any dispute. Similarly, les sommebiches, again in reference to English speakers, apparently had a brief vogue in 20th-century French slang.
The problem with the “bigot is from ‘by God’” theory is that there’s no evidence of the French ever applying the word specifically to people from the general vicinity of the British Isles.
376 | TruGrit Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:43:08am |
Wow! Very enlightening. I wonder why we don’t hear more about this from the MSM? Of course, they may not recognize what is happening.
As a side note, it’s interesting to see how easy it is to drown out moderate voices. All you have to do is yell loud enough. Of course, just because you’re the loudest doesn’t make you right.
377 | Bullskin Tue, Feb 3, 2009 8:11:31am |
re: #169 Ojoe
This stuff cannot be ignored except at great peril.
We must not turn away and assume no evil.
That was the mistake of the 1930s.
How can you can tell this to people naive enough to elect weak Hussein Obama just because he is cool?. How can you counteract media whores power if they don’t show this?. People lured by these leftist lobbies won’t realize until the critical mass for the reaction is reached, the same way it happened when hitler started up his socialist machine at full throttle.
379 | Bullskin Tue, Feb 3, 2009 8:39:56am |
re: #378 grahamski
I consider your statement an insult to animals, gifts of Nature most of them. Would you compare them with these living beings?.
380 | noshari4mn Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:30:03am |
Hey cut them some slack! It is -30 outside, they were just trying to keep from freezing to death.
sarc