Books won’t stay banned. They won’t burn. Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
— Alfred Whitney Griswold
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rawmuse Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:25:31pm |
There is nothing more compelling than an idea whose time has come.
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zombie Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:26:20pm |
Books won’t stay banned. They won’t burn. Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Sadly, thats not entirely true. Many books have been burned and banned and lost to humanity forever.
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jcm Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:27:41pm |
An the Friday night Hopen thread.....
Must be time for me to head to bed....
Night all.
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zombie Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:27:41pm |
Well over half the manuscripts in the Library of Alexandria was lost forever -- much the ancient world's knowledge was contained therein.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:29:05pm |
I'm bailing out.
Good night lizards.
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rawmuse Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:29:38pm |
re: #4 zombie
Sadly, thats not entirely true. Many books have been burned and banned and lost to humanity forever.
The library of Alexandria for instance.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:30:17pm |
"Thisiscrazy....thisiscrazy....thisiscrazy....."
-Clark Griswold
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:30:26pm |
A man enters the confessional and says
'Bless me father for I have sinned; it has been one month since my last
confession.
I've had sex with Fannie Green every week for the last month.'
The priest tells the sinner, 'You are forgiven. Go out and say three Hail
Mary's.'
Soon, another man enters the confessional.
'Father, it has been two months since my last confession.
I have had sex with Fannie Green twice a week for the last two months.'
This time the priest asks, 'Who is this Fannie Green?'
'A new woman in the neighbourhood,' the sinner replies.
'Very well,' says the priest. 'Go and say ten Hail Mary's.'
The next morning in church, the priest is preparing to deliver his sermon
when a gorgeous,
tall woman enters the church.
All the men's eyes fall upon her as she slowly sashays up the aisle and
sits down in front of the altar.
Her dress is green and very short, with matching very shiny emerald green
shoes.
The priest and altar boy gasp as the woman sits down with her legs slightly
spread apart,
Sharon Stone style.
The priest turns to the altar boy and whispering asks, 'Is that Fannie
Green?'
The altar boy replies, 'No Father, I think it's just the reflection off her
shoes'.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:30:43pm |
Nevada Board Nominates Famed Las Vegas Sign for National Historic Register
LAS VEGAS — The famous "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign has moved one step closer to being placed in the National Register of Historic Places.
The state board of musuems on Friday nominated the sign for placement on the list managed by the National Park Service.
Clark County officials say the park service could act on the nomination by May.
In its application, the county argues the neon sign is a cultural icon and a notable example of modern architecture.
The sign is located on the south end of the Las Vegas Strip. It reads, "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada" on the front and "Drive Carefully" and "Come Back Soon" on the back.
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Gus Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:32:23pm |
re: #11 gmsc
Nice. I bet most current planning commissions, city councils, or zoning commissions would reject that sign today. Oh the irony.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:35:10pm |
re: #3 LeePro
Having a bad night?
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:35:39pm |
re: #14 LeePro
Not to be confused with anticip-ayay-tion....
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:36:17pm |
lemme go check on my rats again.....
i got one last time. %-)
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rawmuse Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:36:32pm |
This week I discovered the meaning of true love. I was ill with a bug last Saturday, and it was hideous. I was no fun. It was so bad a couple times I prayed for death to come swiftly. Then I got better. My wife loved me every minute of the entire ordeal.
Then Tuesday, she got it. Only worse. I got to be as kind to her as she was to me.
Tonight, we just had our first substantial dinner out since the whole ordeal began. We are both in the pink now.
So, we got that "in sickness and in health" thing down. We feel more bonded than ever, if that was possible.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:37:22pm |
re: #6 zombie
Well over half the manuscripts in the Library of Alexandria was lost forever -- much the ancient world's knowledge was contained therein.
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:37:27pm |
Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
This is just one of about 10000 reasons I am leaving Africa to return to the US.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:39:04pm |
re: #13 Gus 802
Nice. I bet most current planning commissions, city councils, or zoning commissions would reject that sign today. Oh the irony.
Most would, but Las Vegas, and Nevada, are different. Earlier this year, for example, they shelved a motion to legalize prostitution throughout the state for further study.
What a state!
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:43:28pm |
re: #23 Gus 802
True, the rest of Nevada is a lot like Nellis.
It's like the Air Force Base in Vegas?
I'd say there are some substantial differences.
;)
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Gus Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:44:09pm |
re: #24 gmsc
Ha. That's good. I used to watch Connections. James Burke was fascinating.
//Vulcan pun not intended.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:44:33pm |
re: #20 Erik The Red
Wow....how many mulligans does post-Apartheid South Africa think they're entitled to?
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Gus Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:44:46pm |
re: #25 gmsc
It's like the Air Force Base in Vegas?
I'd say there are some substantial differences.
;)
I meant more conservative.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:44:58pm |
re: #18 rawmuse
That's gross and sweet at the same time. It's nice that you both have it like that.
I am more of a "leave me the f*ck alone" type when I'm sick. As much as some women complain about men who act like babies when they're sick, my "leave me alone, I can handle this" attitude has never been popular with any of my girlfriends.
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:45:04pm |
re: #18 rawmuse
unlike you, we haven't really been sick this winter.....
however, when i asked what was on the schedule for the weekend, HRH opined that we might just spend most of both days at the shooting range.
/po' me
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:45:24pm |
re: #22 Gus 802
PBS when it was good. Before the walls fell.
I've always loved "Connections" and "The Day The Universe Changed". I was thrilled to see that they've all been legally uploaded to YouTube!
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:45:28pm |
re: #27 Fenway_Nation
Wow....how many mulligans does post-Apartheid South Africa think they're entitled to?
all of them?
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LeePro Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:45:36pm |
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Dustyvet Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:45:45pm |
”But there’s always one: “We were never good at math in my family,” said Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.). “I thought I was voting for p-i-e.””
Oh really, it would seem that Congress Critter Murtha has no problem with math, when it comes to pork and lobbyists.
/S
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Killian Bundy Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:46:24pm |
Nasrallah vows to never recognize Israel
In a recorded speech aired Friday evening in Beirut in honor of Prophet Muhammad's birthday, Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah reportedly rejected a preliminary US condition for talks and stressed his group would not recognize Israel "even in 1,000 years."
RANTING hate preacher Anjem Choudary – the man behind the vile Luton protests – wants the flag of Allah to fly over Downing Street and ALL British women forced to wear a burka.
The wild-eyed fanatic today insisted he wanted the UK to live under tough Sharia Law, saying anyone caught drunk should suffer 40 lashes in public, while adulterers should be stoned to death.
Taliban behead three tribesmen in Bajaur
Taliban militants shoot dead and afterwards behead three tribesmen in the restive Bajuar district of troubled north western Pakistan.
According to local TV channels, residents found the headless bodies dumped in Charmang, a known Taliban stronghold in the semi-autonomous district of Bajuar, a Press TV correspondent reported late Friday.
According to the residents, Taliban militants kidnapped the three because they were considered supporters of the Pakistani government who joined a tribal force to fight the militants, he said.
US facing home-grown Islamic terror threat
Officials say a second generation of Somali immigrants is becoming increasingly radicalised and could pose a growing threat to security.
The warnings come amid the revelation that 20 young Somali American men who returned to their war-torn homeland have been radicalised by a group linked to al-Qaeda.
The FBI is urgently examining links between the youths, who are all American citizens, and al-Shabaab, an Islamist group fighting in the country's long-running conflict.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:46:31pm |
re: #20 Erik The Red
Oh...and Erik- I'm not kidding when I say this. Brings back as many Krugerrands as you can.
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Gus Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:47:21pm |
re: #31 gmsc
I've always loved "Connections" and "The Day The Universe Changed". I was thrilled to see that they've all been legally uploaded to YouTube!
Nice, thanks. Bookmarked.
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:48:30pm |
re: #36 Fenway_Nation
Oh...and Erik- I'm not kidding when I say this. Brings back as many Krugerrands as you can.
Got a few. If I have any problems taking out money(WE have exchange controls here) I will be buying a lot more to "hide" in the container.
And NO red you can not have the container number.///
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:48:57pm |
re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth
That's gross and sweet at the same time. It's nice that you both have it like that.
I am more of a "leave me the f*ck alone" type when I'm sick. As much as some women complain about men who act like babies when they're sick, my "leave me alone, I can handle this" attitude has never been popular with any of my girlfriends.
i crawl off to the front room, to be sick away from 2H6, just out of courtesy. small favors, picking up meds and and advice? yes. doting? no.
however, if she is sick, i'm there, hand and foot, as much as she will allow.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:50:28pm |
re: #38 Erik The Red
Is that something they charge VAT for? On the plus side, you (theoretically) get it back once you leave the country provided you have all the reciepts, etc.
/Best time to buy would've been October, but gold prices are down from last month's highs as well...
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:50:28pm |
re: #38 Erik The Red
Got a few. If I have any problems taking out money(WE have exchange controls here) I will be buying a lot more to "hide" in the container.
And NO red you can not have the container number.///
i don't want the freakin number you twit.....
/just the contents. %-)
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mardukhai Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:51:06pm |
re: #6 zombie
Well over half the manuscripts in the Library of Alexandria was lost forever -- much the ancient world's knowledge was contained therein.
There were a lot of ancient libraries -- the Venetians destroyed the last of them when they looted Constantinople.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:51:52pm |
re: #33 LeePro
Well, hugs any way. {LeePro}
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:52:12pm |
After living in the remote wilderness of West Virginia all his life, an old hillbilly decided it was time to visit the big city.
In one of the stores he picks up a mirror and looks in it. Not ever having seen one before, he remarked at the image staring back at him,
'How about that! Here's a picture of my daddy.'
He bought the mirror thinking it was a picture of his daddy, but on the way home he remembered his wife didn't like his father, so he hung it in the barn, and every morning before leaving for the fields, he would go there and look at it.
His wife began to get suspicious of these many trips to the barn. One day after her husband left, she searched the barn and found the mirror.
As she looked into the glass, she fumed, 'So that's the ugly bitch he's runnin' around with.
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rawmuse Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:52:42pm |
Murphy showed up at Mass one Sunday and the priest almost fainted when he
saw him. Murphy had never been seen in Church in his life.
After Mass, the priest caught up with Murphy and said, 'Murphy, I am so glad
ya decided to come to Mass, what made ya come?'
Murphy said, 'I got to be honest with you Father, a while back, I misplaced
me hat and I really, really love that hat. I know that McGlynn had a hat just
like me hat, and I knew that McGlynn comes to Church every Sunday. I also
knew that McGlynn had to take off his hat during Mass and figured he would
leave it in the back of Church. So, I was going to leave after Communion and
steal McGlynn's hat.'
The priest said, 'Well, Murphy, I notice that ya didn't steal McGlynn's hat.
What changed your mind?'
Murphy said, 'Well, after I heard your sermon on the 10 Commandments, I
decided that I didn't need to steal McGlynn's hat after all.'
The priest gave Murphy a big smile and said, 'After I talked about 'Thou Shalt
Not Steal' ya decided you would rather do without the hat than burn in Hell,
right?'
Murphy slowly shook his head and said, 'No, Father, after ya talked about
'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery', I remembered where I left me hat.
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:53:44pm |
re: #40 Fenway_Nation
Is that something they charge VAT for? On the plus side, you (theoretically) get it back once you leave the country provided you have all the reciepts, etc.
/Best time to buy would've been October, but gold prices are down from last month's highs as well...
I won't get the VAT back as I am not officially immigrating. Just going on a long vacation.
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LeePro Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:54:04pm |
re: #43 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, hugs any way. {LeePro}
Cool. "Anyway" hugs are the best kind!
;D
{ { {Slumbering Behemoth} } }
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Gus Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:54:23pm |
James Burke : The Day The Universe Changed: "Matter Of Fact", 1 of 5
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Unakite Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:55:38pm |
re: #44 Erik The Red
After living in the remote wilderness of West Virginia all his life, an old hillbilly decided it was time to visit the big city.
In one of the stores he picks up a mirror and looks in it. Not ever having seen one before, he remarked at the image staring back at him,
'How about that! Here's a picture of my daddy.'
He bought the mirror thinking it was a picture of his daddy, but on the way home he remembered his wife didn't like his father, so he hung it in the barn, and every morning before leaving for the fields, he would go there and look at it.
His wife began to get suspicious of these many trips to the barn. One day after her husband left, she searched the barn and found the mirror.
As she looked into the glass, she fumed, 'So that's the ugly bitch he's runnin' around with.
Now, Now. That's not very sensitive. We wouldn't want to victimize poor, West Virginia hillbillies with mirror fetishes.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:55:38pm |
re: #45 rawmuse
Murphy slowly shook his head and said, 'No, Father, after ya talked about
'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery', I remembered where I left me hat.
"I was walkin' by the church last Sunday, and I saw the reverend coming down the steps. I asked him, 'Mass out?' He said, 'No, but your hat's on crooked.'"
-Minnie Pearl
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redc1c4 Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:56:20pm |
re: #46 Erik The Red
I won't get the VAT back as I am not officially immigrating. Just going on a long vacation.
and if they knew you were immigrating, they'd hose you, right?
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Erik The Red Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:58:00pm |
re: #52 redc1c4
and if they knew you were immigrating, they'd hose you, right?
Right on as usual red
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gmsc Fri, Mar 13, 2009 11:59:05pm |
re: #48 Gus 802
James Burke : The Day The Universe Changed: "Matter Of Fact", 1 of 5
[Video]
That episode is one of my favorites! It's where I first learned about Martin Luther, and that metal smith who got the day of the religous fair wrong by an entire year, and had to figure out another way to make money and pay back his investors.
;)
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:00:40am |
Later Lizards.
Some great Rugby on this morning and I have to get beer and flesh for the BBQ.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:01:14am |
re: #57 Erik The Red
Later Lizards.
Some great Rugby on this morning and I have to get beer and flesh for the BBQ.
G'Nite, Erik!
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:01:56am |
re: #57 Erik The Red
Later Lizards.
Some great Rugby on this morning and I have to get beer and flesh for the BBQ.
see you in a couple hours!
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:03:11am |
re: #57 Erik The Red
Later Lizards.
Some great Rugby on this morning and I have to get beer and flesh for the BBQ.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:04:16am |
re: #39 redc1c4
I don't want to be doted on when I'm sick. I don't like it. But I will dote myself, and heavily, when my gal is sick.
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Erik The Red Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:04:23am |
re: #59 redc1c4
see you in a couple hours!
Only on the LNDT tomorrow. Taking my girls on a school outing after the Rugby.
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:04:24am |
re: #54 gmsc
That episode is one of my favorites! It's where I first learned about Martin Luther, and that metal smith who got the day of the religous fair wrong by an entire year, and had to figure out another way to make money and pay back his investors.
;)
I'm on part 2. It's fabulous because he explains so well the practical aspects of the time and how religion played such an important part in our evolution.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:06:03am |
My blog , Grey Matters, turns 4 years old today, too.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:06:56am |
re: #62 Erik The Red
Only on the LNDT tomorrow. Taking my girls on a school outing after the Rugby.
hasta then.....
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:07:30am |
re: #63 Gus 802
I'm on part 2. It's fabulous because he explains so well the practical aspects of the time and how religion played such an important part in our evolution.
you're just looking for trouble, aren't you?
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:08:22am |
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:12:09am |
re: #68 redc1c4
trouble on a stick?
Nah. I'm just watching James Burke that GMSC reminded me of. Burke is so concise and to the point. He presents a good compendium of human history.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:14:17am |
re: #70 Gus 802
Nah. I'm just watching James Burke that GMSC reminded me of. Burke is so concise and to the point. He presents a good compendium of human history.
I like the way Burke zig-zags through history, the way it really happened. Much like today, which also doesn't happen in straight lines.
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LeePro Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:14:34am |
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:16:20am |
re: #72 gmsc
I like the way Burke zig-zags through history, the way it really happened. Much like today, which also doesn't happen in straight lines.
Exactly. It's not linear and instead circular if you will. Hence the title which is appropriate: connections. That's what drew my interest from the onset.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:19:02am |
By the way, how come the MSM isn't paying more attention to the assassination of Oakland journalist Chauncey Bailey?
I mean, this was one of their own that was slain by a criminal conspiracy. You'd think there'd be more of an uproar over this.....
/full disclouse- not familiar with Mr. Bailey's work until after his slaying.
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:20:10am |
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:20:18am |
re: #73 LeePro
Happy Birthday, Grey Matters!
Fans of Shel Silverstein are ok in my book!
More like a "Blogiversary". Thank you!
I tripped on my shoelace
And I fell up–
Up to the rooftops,
Up over the town,
Up past the tree tops,
Up over the mountains,
Up where the colors
Blend into the sounds.
But it go me so dizzy
When I looked around,
I got sick to my stomach
And I threw down.
–Falling Up, Shel Silverstein
And, as a bonus, here's Ickle Me, Pickle Me, Tickle Me Too:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:22:01am |
re: #55 Dustyvet
I love German training videos. Wait, you said trainee. Never mind.
/stick with this one for a bit. Not immediately funny, but it does get there. Also, probably NSFW.
//
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:22:15am |
i've instigated a minor rebellion in my English Comp class.....
the moonbat author of the assigned text took it upon herself to identify as an atheist, and mock the members of a fundamentalist Christian church.
i pointed this out in discussion, and someone said, "I wasn't going to day anything...." and then they did, and others have piled on. the class population is drawn from the subject matter of the book, and yet they are savaging their alleged champion.
i'll bet the instructor can't wait for me to be gone........ %-)
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:23:22am |
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:29:14am |
Being Pi Day, don't forget the Giant Pi Drop!
It happens twice – First at 1:59 PM ET, then at 1:59 PM PT.
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:30:34am |
re: #83 redc1c4
That's unfortunate. Being an atheist shouldn't be license to mock others. Unfortunately, I've seen that too many times. Since he took it upon himself to portray an atheist you have to take that into consideration.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:31:25am |
re: #86 redc1c4
yes, and overpriced at that valuation.
The were just talking about that book on 20/20 tonight.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:31:52am |
re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth
I love German training videos. Wait, you said trainee. Never mind.
/stick with this one for a bit. Not immediately funny, but it does get there. Also, probably NSFW.
//
Whoa!
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:32:35am |
re: #88 Gus 802
That's unfortunate. Being an atheist shouldn't be license to mock others. Unfortunately, I've seen that too many times. Since he took it upon himself to portray an atheist you have to take that into consideration.
True. I've seen too many people state their beliefs, and then act as if that gives them a right to mock others who don't believe as they do.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:37:32am |
Lutherans in Minnesota, souls of propriety that they are, have a delicate way of describing winter weather: "It's colder out there than a supernatural woman's bosom in a metal foundation garment."
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:37:57am |
re: #91 gmsc
True. I've seen too many people state their beliefs, and then act as if that gives them a right to mock others who don't believe as they do.
I never understood that tactic yet I toss it up to human nature. Mocking others for an opposite belief is counter intuitive. It also doesn't take into account human evolution or acceptable standards of liberty. I know that although I am secular I owe my being to my ancestors and religious beliefs. With that I temper my own personal beliefs.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:38:19am |
re: #88 Gus 802
That's unfortunate. Being an atheist shouldn't be license to mock others. Unfortunately, I've seen that too many times. Since he took it upon himself to portray an atheist you have to take that into consideration.
she, the author, announced herself as an atheist, in saying that attending a "tent revival" was just the thing for her to do on a Saturday night. she went to mock the beliefs of the same class of people she claimed to care so much about.
condescension drips from every page of this POS. i'm so glad i bought it used.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:39:21am |
the quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:40:51am |
re: #96 Dustyvet
the quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
In creases?
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:42:35am |
re: #95 redc1c4
she, the author, announced herself as an atheist, in saying that attending a "tent revival" was just the thing for her to do on a Saturday night. she went to mock the beliefs of the same class of people she claimed to care so much about.
condescension drips from every page of this POS. i'm so glad i bought it used.
That's terrible and wrong. She needs to learn how to respect peoples beliefs regardless of her own. I am sure that it wouldn't be to hard to point out her own moral deficiencies as you pointed out.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:44:37am |
Another Example of a Rich Person Who Can't Control Her Spending
US News lists another example of someone who's making a boatload of money (according to Gawker, she makes $2 million a year -- and she's made a ton for years) and yet seems to find herself in financial trouble. The details:
American portrait photographer Annie Leibovitz, known for her iconic images of celebrities, has borrowed $15 million in exchange for the copyright, negatives, and contract rights of all her work—past and future—until the loan is repaid.
The New York Times reported today that the artist, who's been drowning in mortgage debt, borrowed more than $15 million from Art Capital Group, a company that assists art owners in creating liquidity from art assets. Sounds more like a glorified pawnshop.
Yep, even the mega-rich need pawn shops these days. Why? Because no matter how much you make, if you spend that much and then some, you're going backwards financially. That's why spending less than you earn is my best piece of financial advice. If you don't follow this rule, none of the other things you do to grow your net worth will help.
Add her to the list of rich and famous people in financial trouble because of spending too much. Sheesh. Will people ever learn?
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:47:04am |
re: #99 Gus 802
That's terrible and wrong. She needs to learn how to respect peoples beliefs regardless of her own. I am sure that it wouldn't be to hard to point out her own moral deficiencies as you pointed out.
well, it's been fun, since the teacher specifically prohibits us from mentioning the text in our "Reading Responses".... i posted my first one to my "pathetic blog" linked to my nick here, if you're so inclined.
my evaluataion was:
"Wow. Insightful and beautifully written. Even frightening. Excellent work."
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:49:15am |
re: #100 gmsc
Magic Eight Ball says: "Outlook not so good."
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:50:52am |
re: #102 redc1c4
Magic Eight Ball says: "Outlook not so good."
Can you imagine if she defaults on that $15 million loan?
To make any money on her pictures, she'd effectively have to start all over again!
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:51:37am |
re: #103 gmsc
Can you imagine if she defaults on that $15 million loan?
To make any money on her pictures, she'd effectively have to start all over again!
GI 8 Ball says "Sucks to be her!"
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iLikeCandy Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:51:44am |
re: #4 zombie
Sadly, thats not entirely true. Many books have been burned and banned and lost to humanity forever.
The poetry of Sappho
Erotic watercolors by J.M.W. Turner
The diary of Byron
Vladek Spiegelman's letters and journals
The U.S. military record of the Nanjing Massacre
Materials stolen from the National Archives by Sandy Berger
~ a few that come to mind
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:53:34am |
re: #103 gmsc
Can you imagine if she defaults on that $15 million loan?
To make any money on her pictures, she'd effectively have to start all over again!
she can't start all over again..... she put her name and all future w*rk, if i read the blurb right, as collateral. they *own* her.... hey Annie: my kid is having a party, and we need some photos, come on over.....
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:54:33am |
Tre: #101 redc1c4
Next time you meet her tell her that God is a part of our culture regardless if you accept Him or not.
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lifeofthemind Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:55:13am |
The Hysteric cries out "Violence never solved anything" but sane adults know better.
The Carthaginians were unavailable for comment.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:55:43am |
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:55:46am |
re: #106 redc1c4
she can't start all over again..... she put her name and all future w*rk, if i read the blurb right, as collateral. they *own* her.... hey Annie: my kid is having a party, and we need some photos, come on over.....
Oh, you're right – future works, too!
How stupid is this woman that she's using not only current property as collateral, but property she hasn't yet developed and owned, as compensation for another debt?
You can see where this will wind up.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:57:19am |
re: #107 Gus 802
T
Next time you meet her tell her that God is a part of our culture regardless if you accept Him or not.
never met the teacher, as this is an on line class, but i'd point out that the attitude we're talking about is the author's, not the instructor's..... and if i ever meet the author, the list of things to shred her over is already long, without dragging religion into it.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:57:47am |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
/wait, what?
The music at that link, BTW, is from Hard N Phirm's song "Pi":
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 12:59:09am |
re: #110 gmsc
Oh, you're right – future works, too!
How stupid is this woman that she's using not only current property as collateral, but property she hasn't yet developed and owned, as compensation for another debt?
You can see where this will wind up.
a schadenfreude sundae, with whipped cream, hot fudge and cherries on top?
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:00:06am |
re: #114 redc1c4
a schadenfreude sundae, with whipped cream, hot fudge and cherries on top?
Approximately.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:00:28am |
re: #110 gmsc
You can see where this will wind up.
Depends on wether or not she still uses 35mm film.....
/old-school photography pun
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:02:43am |
re: #114 redc1c4
Is this the same chick who went out of her way to make McCain look more sinister in some headshots during the election?
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:02:59am |
re: #112 redc1c4
never met the teacher, as this is an on line class, but i'd point out that the attitude we're talking about is the author's, not the instructor's..... and if i ever meet the author, the list of things to shred her over is already long, without dragging religion into it.
Once the class is over, I recommend the anitdote to Nickeled & Dimed, called Scratch Beginnings: Me, $25, and the Search for the American Dream.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:03:26am |
re: #116 Fenway_Nation
Depends on wether or not she still uses 35mm film.....
/old-school photography pun
yup: it could very well be the stick in the sprocket that shutters her career.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:05:09am |
re: #119 gmsc
Once the class is over, I recommend the anitdote to Nickeled & Dimed, called Scratch Beginnings: Me, $25, and the Search for the American Dream.
thanks, i'll check that out and toss it into the online discussion..... maybe suggest that she use it next time with the current screed, so the students can compare and contrast.
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Gus Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:06:10am |
Night all. Remember that liberty and respect trumps all. Or most.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:06:10am |
re: #118 Fenway_Nation
Is this the same chick who went out of her way to make McCain look more sinister in some headshots during the election?
No, that was Jill Greenberg.
Annie Lebowitz was recently in the news for taking the controversial pictures of Miley Cyrus, though.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:07:35am |
re: #113 gmsc
Nice. Did not know that. And I see that there are junior members of the Jones Street Boys there.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:08:06am |
re: #123 gmsc
No, that was Jill Greenberg.
Annie Lebowitz was recently in the news for taking the controversial pictures of Miley Cyrus, though.
Here's some links about the Jill Greenburg scandal.
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:10:29am |
Oh, this is where all the cool kids are ;p
I was still stuck in the old thread...
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:10:54am |
re: #125 gmsc
Sweet jebus I hope she mortaged the whole farm.......
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:11:25am |
re: #127 trigger girlie
Didn't know the other thread was still alive and kicking.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:12:05am |
:sigh: But if I were ten years younger.
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:12:08am |
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:13:15am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:15:24am |
re: #132 trigger girlie
Thirty seven.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:15:44am |
re: #126 Fenway_Nation
Another money tip?
You could say that.
BTW, I'm taking a break from the tips for a little while, and looking for more material for those.
In the meantime, here are the links to all 22 tips so far:
gmsc's money tips #1: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
gmsc's money tips #2: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:16:01am |
re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth
you got exactly 10 yrs on me!
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:16:25am |
Holy crap- Lars Larsen is reading a '52 Mistakes in 52 Days' list about the Hussein Dolt administration that was forwarded to him.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:17:05am |
re: #128 Fenway_Nation
Sweet jebus I hope she mortaged the whole farm.......
Annie or Jill?
Annie did – including the rights to all her future works!
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:17:49am |
re: #136 Fenway_Nation
Holy crap- Lars Larsen is reading a '52 Mistakes in 52 Days' list about the Hussein Dolt administration that was forwarded to him.
Ear Leader will not be mocked..... they're next onthe list.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:18:43am |
re: #135 trigger girlie
'zactly.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:19:03am |
re: #138 gmsc
Annie or Jill?
Annie did – including the rights to all her future works!
oh well, she can always sue her lawyer for telling her to take the offer.
/
i wonder if her $$ was in the Maddoff scam?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:20:23am |
re: #137 redc1c4
Still love your old, grizzled arse. In a non-gay, dude way, of course.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:20:30am |
re: #136 Fenway_Nation
Holy crap- Lars Larsen is reading a '52 Mistakes in 52 Days' list about the Hussein Dolt administration that was forwarded to him.
That reminds me of this list:
The 10 Biggest Amateur Mistakes By the Obama Administration So Far
10) The stimulus bill that was so urgent that 0bama took a 3-day vacation before signing it.
9) Having a State Department without a single person who could speak enough Russian to figure out the word "reset".
8) 0bama stating that, once the stimulus bill passes, Caterpillar will hire more people, and stating this right before Caterpillar's CEO said they'd be laying off more people if it passes.
7) After electing a president that would supposedly prove Americans weren't racist, we get an Attorney General who calls the US a "nation of cowards".
6) 0bama picking a fight with Rush Limbaugh and bringing the idea of a Presidential "enemies list" back into discussion (and adding Rick Santelli, Jim Cramer...).
5) His appointees. 'Nuff said.
4) 0bama destroys eight years of diplomacy with Poland and the Czech Republic by letting Russia know we'll let those two countries twist in the wind if Russia helps stop nukes from getting to Iran.
3) Sending back the Winston Churchill bust to the UK, and giving the UK Prime Minister a set of DVDs that couldn't be played in his country.
2) Appointing a tax cheat to be the head of the department that runs the IRS.
1) Making a stock market killing, but not in a good way.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:20:37am |
re: #139 redc1c4
Actually, it's old news since I'm listening to his show on a tape-delay. Also keep in mind that the list is somewhat 'padded' by listing the individual countries Hussein Dolt is willing to throw under the bus.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:21:51am |
re: #138 gmsc
Annie or Jill?
Annie did – including the rights to all her future works!
She's basically sold herself into indentured servitude, the way I read it.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:23:08am |
re: #145 Alberta Oil Peon
I'm hoping Jill is in the same boat, too....
/Y'know- up shit creek without a paddle
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:23:29am |
re: #141 redc1c4
oh well, she can always sue her lawyer for telling her to take the offer.
/
i wonder if her $$ was in the Maddoff scam?
Now that you mention it, the sudden need for such a large amount is interesting.
The Volokh Conspiracy raises some interesting questions about political money received from Madoff, BTW.
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Dustyvet Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:24:52am |
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:25:15am |
re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth
37 is a new 17,lol
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:28:16am |
re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth
Still love your old, grizzled arse. In a non-gay, dude way, of course.
you'll get over it: everyone else does.....
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:29:54am |
re: #147 gmsc
Now that you mention it, the sudden need for such a large amount is interesting.
The Volokh Conspiracy raises some interesting questions about political money received from Madoff, BTW.
GMTA..... i was gonna mention that.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:31:23am |
re: #144 Fenway_Nation
Actually, it's old news since I'm listening to his show on a tape-delay. Also keep in mind that the list is somewhat 'padded' by listing the individual countries Hussein Dolt is willing to throw under the bus.
oh. i was referring to a blog post earlier today that listed Ear Leader's Greatest Hits (so far)
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:31:29am |
A body builder takes off his shirt and the blonde says,
'What a Great Chest you have!'
He tells her, 'That's 100 lbs. Of dynamite, Baby.'
He takes off his pants and the blonde says, 'What massive Calves you have!'
The body builder tells her, 'That's 100 lbs. Of dynamite, baby.'
He then removes his underwear, and the blonde goes running out of the apartment screaming in fear.
The body builder puts his clothes back on and chases after her.
He catches up to her and asks why she ran out of the apartment like that.
The blonde replies: I was afraid to be around all that dynamite after I saw how short the fuse was!
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:32:34am |
In the news today, President 0bama announced that Guantanamo Bay has been closed forever.
However, the new Barack 0bama Compassion Facility has already re-opened in its place.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:36:44am |
re: #149 trigger girlie
I do my best to act seventeen. I'm not all that convincing.
/no, I do not mean that I try to pick up on teenage girls, just that my pretense of immaturity does not always convince. I'd try harder, but that might cut into my special "beer time".
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:36:51am |
Is it bad that I'm looking through available jobs in Saskatchewan?
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:38:57am |
re: #155 Slumbering Behemoth
I dont have to pretend to be immature, I AM immature,lol
/I watch Spongebob...
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:39:28am |
Who will win? 2/5/09 0bama vs. 3/12/09 0bama
I love the last line:
We are the ones we’ve been self-negating for.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:40:55am |
re: #157 trigger girlie
I dont have to pretend to be immature, I AM immature,lol
/I watch Spongebob...
That's sort of like redc1c4. He doesn't suffer from insanity...
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:42:27am |
re: #157 trigger girlie
My older sister [the one with a doctorate] is an avid Hello Kitty collector.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:43:53am |
re: #150 redc1c4
you'll get over it: everyone else does.....
You can't possibly be that sexy. I'm a big fan of the females, there is no way I am going gay for you. I don't care what "everyone else does".
/NTTAWWT
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:46:05am |
re: #161 Slumbering Behemoth
You can't possibly be that sexy. I'm a big fan of the females, there is no way I am going gay for you. I don't care what "everyone else does".
/NTTAWWT
i meant getting over the "love" part, same as all the women in my life.
/you'll still call when you need something though. %-)
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:46:08am |
Too cool – literally: Pi ice cube tray!
The other Pi-related goodies aren't too bad, either.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:46:08am |
re: #156 Fenway_Nation
Is it bad that I'm looking through available jobs in Saskatchewan?
What sort of work? Saskatchewan is poised for some major growth, and the cost of living there is pretty low. Mind you, it's so flat, that when your dog runs away, you can still see him three days later.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:48:33am |
re: #165 Alberta Oil Peon
What sort of work? Saskatchewan is poised for some major growth, and the cost of living there is pretty low. Mind you, it's so flat, that when your dog runs away, you can still see him three days later.
that's because he's frozen to death whilst walking.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:49:32am |
I don't normally like cover bands, but damnit I find this one hard not to like.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:49:35am |
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:49:53am |
re: #156 Fenway_Nation
Is it bad that I'm looking through available jobs in Saskatchewan?
no sense moving to Canuckistan: their gun laws make California's look lax.
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:50:17am |
If you need a good laugh, try reading through these real children's science exam answers...
Q: Name the four seasons.
A: Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar.
Q: Explain one of the processes by which water can be made safe to drink.
A: Flirtation makes water safe to drink because it removes large pollutants like grit, sand, dead sheep and canoeists..
Q: How is dew formed?
A: The sun shines down on the leaves and makes them perspire.
Q: How can you delay milk turning sour?(Brilliant, love this!)
A: Keep it in the cow.
Q: What causes the tides in the oceans?
A: The tides are a fight between the Earth and the Moon. All water tends to flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon and nature hates a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight.
Q: What are steroids?
A: Things for keeping carpets still on the stairs.
Q: What happens to your body as you age?
A: When you get old so do your bowels and you get intercontinental
Q: What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty?
A: He says good-bye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery. (The kid gets an A+ for this answer!)
Q: Name a major disease associated with cigarettes.
A: Premature death.
Q: How are the main parts of the body categorized? ( e.g., abdomen)
A: The body is consisted into three parts -- the brainium, the borax and the abdominal cavity. The brainium contains the brain; the borax contains the heart and lungs, and the abdominal cavity contains the five bowels A, E, I, O, and U.
Q: What is the fibula?
A: A small lie.
Q: What does 'varicose' mean? (I do love this one...)
A: Nearby.
Q: Give the meaning of the term 'Caesarian Section.'
A: The Caesarian Section is a district in Rome.
Q: What does the word 'benign' mean?'
A: Benign is what you will be after you be eight.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:50:43am |
re: #169 Alberta Oil Peon
Heh! That one got caught in the Web filter here.
yeah, "Steak and a BJ day" would likely hit most filters..... %-)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:52:14am |
re: #163 redc1c4
/you'll still call when you need something though. %-)
I need another drink, brother. Can you help a Lizard out?
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:52:31am |
re: #156 Fenway_Nation
Is it bad that I'm looking through available jobs in Saskatchewan?
"Send someone to fetch us, we're in Saskatchewan..."
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:55:15am |
re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth
I need another drink, brother. Can you help a Lizard out?
which way did you come in?
/
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:56:26am |
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:56:29am |
re: #165 Alberta Oil Peon
Probably transportation....I was originally considering Montana, but the job prospects seem more abundant to the north-west. My understanding is that some of this is a byproduct of increased taxes/royalties in Alberta....
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:57:31am |
anyone seen LoL? she was into the scotch last i saw, and i'm hoping she can last long enough to do her thing......
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:58:33am |
re: #176 redc1c4
Came in toward the left. Wanna go out toward the right.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:58:35am |
re: #177 Alberta Oil Peon
"A bear in his natural habitat, a Studebaker."
I resemble that quote.
Is that where all the Alberta oil goes?
;)
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:58:57am |
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:59:05am |
re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth
Came in toward the left. Wanna go out toward the right.
but more likely to wind up in the wrong.......
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 1:59:45am |
re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth
Came in toward the left. Wanna go out toward the right.
It's 5 miles left, 5 miles right, then a mile down the road...
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Throbert McGee Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:00:16am |
re: #101 redc1c4
well, it's been fun, since the teacher specifically prohibits us from mentioning the text in our "Reading Responses".... i posted my first one to my "pathetic blog" linked to my nick here, if you're so inclined.
redc1c4: I recognized the title of the book you had to read -- Nickel Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America. Yeah, that precious parenthetic "not" is there in the title; I just checked Amazon.
Anyway, I've never read it, but I can remember reading a positive review of it -- probably in the NY Times -- and realizing that both the author Barbara Ehrenreich and the reviewer who liked it were from very, very sheltered and privileged backgrounds. What really drove it home was a pulled quote in which Ehrenreich talks about what a hardship it was having to subsist on "chili-mac-n-cheese" type casseroles, and other concoctions that millions of middle-class Americans grew up eating.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:00:28am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:00:29am |
generic fruitcup available over there------------------->
get it before LoL grabs it for rebranding!
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:01:13am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:01:32am |
For Fenway, and for all pirate fans: The Last Saskatchewan Pirate.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:01:39am |
re: #189 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummy! And quick!
;)
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Throbert McGee Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:02:51am |
re: #188 Throbert McGee
redc1c4: I recognized the title of the book you had to read -- Nickel Dimed....
Argh! The hamsters done ate my ampersand!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:03:05am |
re: #178 Fenway_Nation
Probably transportation....I was originally considering Montana, but the job prospects seem more abundant to the north-west. My understanding is that some of this is a byproduct of increased taxes/royalties in Alberta....
Very true. And Saskatchewan threw out their socialist government and elected a more business-friendly bunch, too.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:03:28am |
re: #188 Throbert McGee
redc1c4: I recognized the title of the book you had to read -- Nickel Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America. Yeah, that precious parenthetic "not" is there in the title; I just checked Amazon.
Anyway, I've never read it, but I can remember reading a positive review of it -- probably in the NY Times -- and realizing that both the author Barbara Ehrenreich and the reviewer who liked it were from very, very sheltered and privileged backgrounds. What really drove it home was a pulled quote in which Ehrenreich talks about what a hardship it was having to subsist on "chili-mac-n-cheese" type casseroles, and other concoctions that millions of middle-class Americans grew up eating.
i can send you my copy, if you want it....... i was jealous of my contemporaries, as a kid, because they always got casseroles and hamburger helper, and all we got were roasts, steaks and chops....
poor me.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:04:12am |
gmsc! :-)
axgrinder! :-)
re: #195 Throbert McGee
Argh! The hamsters done ate my ampersand!
Hope they at least enjoyed it. ;-)
Throbert! :-)
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:04:19am |
re: #183 gmsc
Is that where all the Alberta oil goes?
;)
Some of it. But it gets recycled. Studebakers mark their territory.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:04:59am |
re: #188 Throbert McGee
Hamburger helper. My mom wasn't exactly what you would call a culinary genius. But we never went hungry. Always liked sloppy joe Fridays.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:05:21am |
re: #185 redc1c4
but more likely to wind up in the wrong.......
Well, if I follow your directions...
/
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:05:43am |
re: #200 Alberta Oil Peon
Some of it. But it gets recycled. Studebakers mark their territory.
careful: Avanti might show up and start posting.....
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:06:37am |
re: #196 Alberta Oil Peon
Very true. And Saskatchewan threw out their socialist government and elected a more business-friendly bunch, too.
Oh dear....does that mean there's socialists running the show in Alberta?
/my most favorite Canadian province that I've never been to
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:07:00am |
re: #203 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, if I follow your directions...
/
you youngsters don't listen well, and besides, i'm going to Fiddler's Green.
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Kragar Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:07:54am |
Books won’t stay banned. They won’t burn. Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.— Alfred Whitney Griswold
On the other hand, in those cases where the censors and the inquisitors have won, there is no evidence to the contrary.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:08:02am |
re: #204 redc1c4
careful: Avanti might show up and start posting.....
I've actually met him. He's really not a bad guy at all.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:09:33am |
HRH was talking about going to the range today, so maybe some sleep would be in order?
hasta, y'all......
L8r!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:10:06am |
re: #206 Fenway_Nation
Oh dear....does that mean there's socialists running the show in Alberta?
/my most favorite Canadian province that I've never been to
No, the Conservative Party governs in Alberta, by a huge majority. But they are trying to be all things to all people. A little too PC for my taste. But the least-worst alternative, by a long shot.
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redc1c4 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:10:27am |
re: #209 Alberta Oil Peon
I've actually met him. He's really not a bad guy at all.
well, he does a good j*b of playing an asshat on the Internet.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:10:52am |
re: #205 littleoldlady
Alberta Oil Peon! :-)
Slumbering! :-)
Littleoldlady! Thank you for the fruit cup.
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:11:42am |
Thank you, LoL.....here's an oldie for todays' funny, but it fits our current Administration:
A little boy wanted $100.00 very badly and prayed for weeks, but nothing happened.
Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the $100.00.
When the postal authorities received the letter to God, USA, they
decided to send it to the President.
The president was so amused that he instructed his secretary to send the little boy a $5.00 bill.The president thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy.
The little boy was delighted with the $5.00 bill and sat
down to write a thank-you note to God, which read:
Dear God: Thank you very much for sending the money.
However, I noticed that for some reason you sent it
through Washington, DC. and those assholes deducted $95.00 in
taxes.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:11:42am |
re: #206 Fenway_Nation
New Zealand is shaping up to be business friendly. I predict some rather large companies may repatriate there if our Government continues it's trend.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:11:47am |
re: #187 gmsc
What. The. Fork. The '80s were weird.
/and I miss them, in my own deranged way
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Kragar Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:12:55am |
re: #214 littleoldlady
Bye, red! :-)
Kragar! :-)
Up late, got a game tomorrow evening and wrapping up getting ready for it
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:13:31am |
re: #212 redc1c4
well, he does a good j*b of playing an asshat on the Internet.
Heh. That he does. But he takes his lumps, too, you'll notice. He may be a liberal, but he's no barking moonbat.
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Throbert McGee Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:13:44am |
re: #201 axegrinder
Hamburger helper. My mom wasn't exactly what you would call a culinary genius. But we never went hungry. Always liked sloppy joe Fridays.
I'm pretty close to being a culinary genius (my Kitchen IQ is 167), but I still like making and eating the simple stuff. I usually start with Mac'n'Cheese as a base, then combine with a generous glorp from an open jar of spaghetti sauce in the fridge, then add kidney beans and/or browned ground beef.
| 222 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:13:58am |
re: #205 littleoldlady
Big Hugs. How is the Little (not so) Old Lady?
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:16:17am |
re: #216 axegrinder
New Zealand is shaping up to be business friendly. I predict some rather large companies may repatriate there if our Government continues it's trend.
The WSJ was just talking about that recently.
Watch - They'll recover faster and better than the US, and 0bama will take the credit somehow.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:16:24am |
re: #211 Alberta Oil Peon
*Whew!* I think Afrocity was mulling over places to move to outside of Chicago the other night, but came up with four or five cities that were just crawling w/moonbats (Portland, OR, the SF Bay area, Seattle, NYC or Denver) which made me wonder what the point was....
I thought Denver was more or less up for grabs, but some Colorado lizards informed me otherwise.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:16:49am |
Kragar,
I knew it was something special. You're never here at this time. :-)
re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth
I guess I'm okay. About to get older. :-/
/beats the heck out of the alternative, right?
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:17:33am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:19:29am |
re: #221 Throbert McGee
I'm pretty close to being a culinary genius (my Kitchen IQ is 167), but I still like making and eating the simple stuff. I usually start with Mac'n'Cheese as a base, then combine with a generous glorp from an open jar of spaghetti sauce in the fridge, then add kidney beans and/or browned ground beef.
You need something from each of the major food groups, protein, grease, and alcohol in every meal.
| 229 |
Kragar Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:20:17am |
Spent the last 6 hours detailing 100+ infantry models, 7 tank models, 10 recon unit models, 1 super heavy tank model, 5 assassins and one inquistor fire support squad. Luckily I've avoided glue my fingers together tonight.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:20:55am |
re: #225 Fenway_Nation
Forgot to add that I'd hate to see Calgary or Edmonton go the way of Seattle or San Francisco.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:21:26am |
re: #221 Throbert McGee
I discovered that gourmet translates quite often into expensive. So I too appreciate fried hamburgers with onions and green peppers shoved up in 'em and beans and rice.
After buyin rice-a-roni I discovered how to make my own rice taste pretty good. The trick is to eat it 1 or 2 hours before a run or heavy work out to sweat out all the salt. I adore salt and all spices salty.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:21:58am |
re: #225 Fenway_Nation
*Whew!* I think Afrocity was mulling over places to move to outside of Chicago the other night, but came up with four or five cities that were just crawling w/moonbats (Portland, OR, the SF Bay area, Seattle, NYC or Denver) which made me wonder what the point was....
I thought Denver was more or less up for grabs, but some Colorado lizards informed me otherwise.
If you decide to visit Saskatchewan, you would be welcome to stay at my place on the way through. I am in south-central Alberta, within a day's drive of both Regina and Saskatoon.
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:23:09am |
re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth
What. The. Fork. The '80s were weird.
/and I miss them, in my own deranged way
That was from Square One TV. What Sesame Street was to letters, and The Electric Company was to words, Square One TV was to math.
The 30-minutes show would be about 20 minutes of songs and sketches about various mathematical concepts, concluded by 10 minutes of "MathNet" – a Dragnet parody about 2 cops who investigate crimes mathematically.
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:23:57am |
who is this Avanti person? Damn, I havent been on here in a while...
my nemesis for a while on here was Grumpy Old Dog, or somethin rather. He kept claiming that i'm not from Russia, not a female, and in general not who I claim to be. Is he still around?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:26:49am |
re: #166 redc1c4
Every day should be a holiday.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:27:37am |
re: #229 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Last time I spent 6 hours detailing models I blew 2 grand in an all night modeling studio. Viagra rules.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:27:50am |
re: #234 trigger girlie
who is this Avanti person? Damn, I havent been on here in a while...
my nemesis for a while on here was Grumpy Old Dog, or somethin rather. He kept claiming that i'm not from Russia, not a female, and in general not who I claim to be. Is he still around?
I know who you mean, TG, but the exact nic escapes me.
Avanti is LGF's token Liberal football. He tends to take the Devil's advocate role, but without the snark we've come to expect from Cognito.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:28:41am |
re: #226 littleoldlady
Every day above ground, Lady. Every day above ground.
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:28:46am |
re: #237 Alberta Oil Peon
I see, thanks for clarification
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:28:48am |
re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth
Every day should be a holiday.
If you type any day into wikipedia, wait for that day's page to come up, and then click on Holidays and Observances, you'll see that every day is a holiday somewhere!
(Example: March 15th – yes, I know it's tomorrow)
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:29:04am |
re: #236 axegrinder
Last time I spent 6 hours detailing models I blew 2 grand in an all night modeling studio. Viagra rules.
LOL!
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Kragar Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:29:13am |
re: #236 axegrinder
Last time I spent 6 hours detailing models I blew 2 grand in an all night modeling studio. Viagra rules.
I didn't need the viagra or the 2 grand last time I was in that situation
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:30:01am |
re: #240 gmsc
If you type any day into wikipedia, wait for that day's page to come up, and then click on Holidays and Observances, you'll see that every day is a holiday somewhere!
(Example: March 15th – yes, I know it's tomorrow)
Beware the Ides of March!
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:30:47am |
re: #243 Alberta Oil Peon
Beware the Ides of March!
I was just looking at that page, and thinking the same thing!
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:32:21am |
re: #232 Alberta Oil Peon
Cardston? Lethbridge?
Appreciate the offer, although I'm not sure about going all the way to sasketchewan. I did check out some travel books about Montana and the
Canadian Rockies from the library....so I might wind up going there on vacation at some point.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:33:30am |
re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth
Every day above ground, Lady. Every day above ground.
Does it count if I'm above ground but under water?
;-)
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:33:38am |
re: #242 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Well, I was just being funny. Never tried the stuff and I'm too cheap to blow that much cash on anything I can't drive away in.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:34:53am |
"I request the U.S. to maintain its good credit, to honor its promises and to guarantee the safety of China's assets."
So what and when does the collateral come due and what will our Commie-and-Thief relinquish and demand of the American people?
Morning folks.
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Kragar Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:35:04am |
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gmsc Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:35:37am |
re: #246 littleoldlady
Does it count if I'm above ground but under water?
;-)
Does this answer your question?
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Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:35:53am |
re: #234 trigger girlie
trigger - Grumpy Big Dog Johnson had your best interests at heart, or so he inferred.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:36:10am |
Huh...even after the exchange rate, a meter reader in Saskatoon earns more than a meter reader in Riverside, CA.
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:37:13am |
98-year-old Mother Superior from Ireland was dying.
The nuns gathered around her bed trying to make
her last journey comfortable. They tried giving her
some warm milk to drink but she refused it.
One of the nuns took the glass back to the kitchen
and remembering a bottle of Irish Whiskey received
as a gift the previous Christmas, she opened it and
poured a generous amount into the warm milk.
Back at Mother Superior's bed, she held the glass to
her lips. Mother sniffed at it and drank a little, then a
little more and before they knew it, she had drunk
the whole glass down to the last drop.
"Mother," the nuns asked with earnest, "please give
us some wisdom before you pass on to your heavenly
reward."
She struggled to raise herself up in bed and said,
" Don 't sell that cow!"
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:38:06am |
re: #245 Fenway_Nation
Cardston? Lethbridge?
Appreciate the offer, although I'm not sure about going all the way to sasketchewan. I did check out some travel books about Montana and the
Canadian Rockies from the library....so I might wind up going there on vacation at some point.
Cardston is in the far South of Alberta, not far from Chief Mountain in Glacier National Park in Montana. It is a largely Mormon town, and was the birthplace of Fay Wray, who played King Kong's squeeze in the original movie (1933).
Lethbridge is further north and east of Cardston, but still in deep southern Alberta. It's a good 3 hour road trip for me to go there. If you drew a line between Drumheller and Red Deer, the middle of it would fall near my place.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:40:14am |
re: #248 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
aboo! :-)
I understand that they've been buying up U.S. physical assets (real estate, businesses, etc) like gangbusters.
/hedging their bets
And to think I used to worry about the Saudis...
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:40:42am |
re: #254 Alberta Oil Peon
OK- so you'd more or less be between Edmonton and Calgary....but not neccecarily along Highway 2.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:41:47am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:42:23am |
re: #256 Fenway_Nation
OK- so you'd more or less be between Edmonton and Calgary....but not neccecarily along Highway 2.
That's right. 30-odd miles East of Highway 2.
I can get from home to Calgary in 80 minutes.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:42:38am |
re: #247 axegrinder
Well, I was just being funny. Never tried the stuff and I'm too cheap to blow that much cash on anything I can't drive away in.
I was gonnare: #254 Alberta Oil Peon
I used to day dream about buying some property on a lake somewhere in Canada or maybe Alaska and building a cabin on it and maybe living there for a while in the summer. Someplace secluded and only accessible by air. How are property values holding out up there?
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Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:43:08am |
re: #254 Alberta Oil Peon
Cardston is in the far South of Alberta, not far from Chief Mountain in Glacier National Park in Montana. It is a largely Mormon town, and was the birthplace of Fay Wray, who played King Kong's squeeze in the original movie (1933).
Lethbridge is further north and east of Cardston, but still in deep southern Alberta. It's a good 3 hour road trip for me to go there. If you drew a line between Drumheller and Red Deer, the middle of it would fall near my place.
"I'll take Three Hills for $100 Alex
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:43:26am |
re: #251 Panhandler
the whole thing was odd; I dont see how he did tho
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Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:45:12am |
re: #262 trigger girlie
the whole thing was odd; I dont see how he did tho
Sorry Trigger. forgot the /
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:47:20am |
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:47:24am |
re: #259 Alberta Oil Peon
Nice....I missed out on the opportunity to flu up and catch a Bruins/Flames game at the Saddledome in October B.0. [Before 0bama]. Is it true that PennGrowth Enegry has the naming rights now?
Having said that, catching a Flames/Oilers game The Battle For Alberta is somewhere in the top 10 of my sports 'bucket list'.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:48:08am |
re: #255 littleoldlady
aboo! :-)
I understand that they've been buying up U.S. physical assets (real estate, businesses, etc) like gangbusters.
/hedging their bets
And to think I used to worry about the Saudis...
Good morning Lol :-)
Don't worry the Saudi's are going to want their piece of the action also. In fact, I expect there's a line forming outside Obummer's door, pretty much, as we type. ...and we all know how much Obummer likes to share the wealth.
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:48:18am |
re: #264 Panhandler
lol, NOW it all makes sense :)
there were days when he was nice. I just don't know what the deal was
/I am at work, its 4 47 am, and the front doors just opened slowly, then closed...hmmm
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:49:37am |
Here's great song by an Alberta country musician, Corb Lund. He's the real deal; actually he has worked as a rodeo cowboy, and comes from a ranching family. Five Dollar Bill
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:51:40am |
re: #261 Panhandler
"I'll take Three Hills for $100 Alex
Pretty close, but no cigar. I'm not really in a town. Three Hills is the seat of Kneehill County, and I'm in that county.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:51:54am |
re: #269 Alberta Oil Peon
Isn't Gordon Lightfoot from up there as well?
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Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:52:30am |
re: #268 trigger girlie
Slooowly she turned, step by step -----
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:52:41am |
re: #268 trigger girlie
Still looking at the wrong clock. It's only 2:49 am.
/the doors... birds and breezes can effect automatic doors.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:53:50am |
Or it could be a poltergeist...
There HEEERREEEE!
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:54:17am |
re: #267 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
We welcome our new (old) overlords.
They can buy up all the overpasses, for all I care, as long as we still have the underpasses...
:-/
| 279 |
Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:56:37am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
Dang, they must have just opened, that's the cleanest carpet I've ever seen at a chinese buffet. They'll learn.
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:56:51am |
re: #270 Fenway_Nation
Er...FLY
*pimf*
I always look at the keyboard when I see a typo like that, Fenway-and never give peeps crap for a typo (except when I'm messing around/being punny). I will occasionally correct a misspelling, tho.........:>))
| 281 |
axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:57:30am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
oH MAN! I love buffets. Love them fried biscuits with the cream cheese in the center. Pile 'em on!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:57:40am |
re: #260 axegrinder
I was gonnare: #254 Alberta Oil Peon
I used to day dream about buying some property on a lake somewhere in Canada or maybe Alaska and building a cabin on it and maybe living there for a while in the summer. Someplace secluded and only accessible by air. How are property values holding out up there?
I think some of the urban homes in the bigger cities have taken a dive. My own place, I just had appraised a couple of weeks ago, and it's worth about double what I paid for in 1998, but I have put some money into it as well.
I'm currently working at a site near Dawson Creek, B.C. I should go pick up a local real estate rag and see what bush quarters are going for around here. I know there are a few private lots on lakes with fly-in only access, but that's a rare thing. Lots have to be surveyed. But you can sure find bush quarters all across the northern part of western Canada, and some of that can be pretty doggone remote.
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littleoldlady Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:57:58am |
Panhandler! :-)
Yeah, my family hasn't arrived yet.
/obviously.
;-)
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trigger girlie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:57:59am |
re: #276 axegrinder
No, actually it was a buncha thugs with their pants down, arguing with a cab driver about how much to pay.
I had to tell them to STFU cause ppl are still asleep, and close the doors.
Arghh...I really hate weekends
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 2:58:38am |
re: #273 axegrinder
Isn't Gordon Lightfoot from up there as well?
He comes from Ontario, not sure what town. He is supposed to be doing some concert dates in Alberta soon.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:01:01am |
re: #284 trigger girlie
Pants down? There has to be more to this story.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:02:09am |
re: #266 Fenway_Nation
Nice....I missed out on the opportunity to flu up and catch a Bruins/Flames game at the Saddledome in October B.0. [Before 0bama]. Is it true that PennGrowth Enegry has the naming rights now?
Having said that, catching
a Flames/Oilers gameThe Battle For Alberta is somewhere in the top 10 of my sports 'bucket list'.
Yeah, it's called the Penngrowth Saddledome now. As much as I'm in favor of private enterprise financing such things, the "naming rights" thing ticks me off. Why not just call it the Calgary Saddledome, underwritten by Penngrowth Energy?
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:04:08am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
LOL.
A real quick question with bonus points(a free meal at the above noted buffet before heading out to the re-education camp) if anyone can remember: Did Obama swear to 'defend' the Constitution of the United States or swear to 'auction' the Constitution of the United States?
...and please, do have a wonderful day.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:05:08am |
re: #287 Alberta Oil Peon
Beats our baseball park's name. Minute Maid Park anyone? Although I guess it's better then what it used to me called. Enron Field.
| 291 |
Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:06:26am |
re: #287 Alberta Oil Peon
Yeah, it's called the Penngrowth Saddledome now. As much as I'm in favor of private enterprise financing such things, the "naming rights" thing ticks me off. Why not just call it the Calgary Saddledome, underwritten by Penngrowth Energy?
Hey, Penngrowth isn't Tommy Hilfinger. How many people would buy a "Penngrowth" shirt - no product identification that way. If you fund it, you can name it ( See Kennedy, Edward).
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:07:26am |
re: #289 axegrinder
Beats our baseball park's name. Minute Maid Park anyone? Although I guess it's better then what it used to me called. Enron Field.
I miss the old stadium names. They had character, and you immediately knew, from the name of the field, what city it was in. Those corporate names could be in Anywheresville.
| 294 |
Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:08:53am |
re: #287 Alberta Oil Peon
It's rare for a big sports venue here to NOT have a corporate name. Fenway Park, Madison Square Garden, Dodger Stadium, Joe Lewis Arena and Yankee Stadium are some of the notable exceptions.
Even though it's had the same name for more than 9 decades, Chicago's Wrigley Field was named after then-owner and chewing gum mangate William Wrigley Jr.
| 295 |
Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:09:52am |
Oh oh, some large men in dark glasses are going to be knocking on Chris Muir's door. Stoner
| 296 |
Killian Bundy Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:10:37am |
Speaker Pelosi: I am not partisan
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is denying Republican claims that she is partisan, saying she has been open to GOP ideas.
In an interview with Charlie Rose on Friday, Pelosi was asked what is the most unfair and misleading impression of her. Pelosi initially said she doesn’t think about it, but when pressed, the Speaker took on her Republican critics.
“There seems to -- some people think there seems to be a market for saying that I am very partisan, and that I don't give the Republicans their opportunity. That simply is not true. They know in this recovery package that we had, we ask them what they wanted. They wanted certain things in there.”
/she said with a permanently straight face
| 297 |
Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:11:37am |
Err....magnate
Maybe it's time for me to get some shuteye....
| 299 |
Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:12:15am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:13:50am |
re: #291 Panhandler
Hey, Penngrowth isn't Tommy Hilfinger. How many people would buy a "Penngrowth" shirt - no product identification that way. If you fund it, you can name it ( See Kennedy, Edward).
I'm waiting for the "Your Corporate Name Here" stadium to be built.
You know, some fun could be had by making up fake corporate venue names.
Lemmesee...Bill Gates buys, the KingDome, and renames it the Microdome?
| 301 |
Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:15:04am |
re: #300 Alberta Oil Peon
I'm waiting for the "Your Corporate Name Here" stadium to be built.
You know, some fun could be had by making up fake corporate venue names.
Lemmesee...Bill Gates buys, the KingDome, and renames it the Microdome?
Even Bill Gates couldn't buy something that was demolished 10 years ago.
| 302 |
Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:17:14am |
Hmm.....if 0bama's such a big Bulls fan, maybe the naming rights for the united center in Chicago can be renegotiated.
Or better yet- the naming rights for the team itself could be up for negotiation.
The Chicago Bulls Brought To You By Halliburton
| 303 |
Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:18:25am |
re: #300 Alberta Oil Peon
Ben and Jerry buy the rights to the Superdome, rename it Almond Mocha Oreo Swirl Tub.
| 304 |
Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:18:51am |
re: #294 Fenway_Nation
It's rare for a big sports venue here to NOT have a corporate name. Fenway Park, Madison Square Garden, Dodger Stadium, Joe Lewis Arena and Yankee Stadium are some of the notable exceptions.
Even though it's had the same name for more than 9 decades, Chicago's Wrigley Field was named after then-owner and chewing gum mangate William Wrigley Jr.
But Wrigley built the place didn't he? That gives him naming rights, in my book. What sticks in my craw is existing venues whoring themselves out to corporations for a handout.
If Exxon ponies up all the coin to build a new ballpark in, say, Houston, they can call it Exxon Stadium with my blessing, because they've earned it.
| 305 |
Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:20:57am |
re: #302 Fenway_Nation
Hmm.....if 0bama's such a big Bulls fan, maybe the naming rights for the united center in Chicago can be renegotiated.
Or better yet- the naming rights for the team itself could be up for negotiation.
The Chicago Bulls Brought To You By Halliburton
I'm liking that! Truly evil!
I used to work for Halliburton. At least Halliburton bought out the company I was working for at the time.
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:22:00am |
re: #296 Killian Bundy
“There seems to -- some people think there seems to be a market for saying that I am very partisan, and that I don't give the Republicans their opportunity. That simply is not true. They know in this recovery package that we had, we ask them what they wanted. They wanted certain things in there.”
But she didn't finish the statement making it a 'lie by omission'-she needed to say next, "But we couldn't allow those things to be included, or addressed".....
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:22:01am |
re: #303 Panhandler
Heard on the radio awhile ago what sounded like one of the Blue Collar Comedy guys bemoaning the shifting priorities in NASCAR Sponsorship starting with the renaming of the Winston Cup series....
"We don't call it that no more- it's now the Kotex 400."
"Really? How'd you manage to get tickets to that?"
"Had to pull some strings...."
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:22:23am |
re: #304 Alberta Oil Peon
The city ends up paying most of the money for the stadium. That's why we lost the Oilers; then Mayor Bob was stingy on the new digs so Bud skipped town with our boys. They went to the superbowl the next season as the Titans and we paid for the new stadium for the Texans anyway. Such is life.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:22:45am |
re: #303 Panhandler
Ben and Jerry buy the rights to the Superdome, rename it Almond Mocha Oreo Swirl Tub.
That'd go over real well in a chocolate city, wouldn't it?
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:23:36am |
re: #306 Pietr
A lot of those earmarks in the latest omnibus go to Repubs. Greed is bipartisan.
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Panhandler Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:23:59am |
re: #309 Alberta Oil Peon
Nobody ever said you weren't quick AOP.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:24:54am |
re: #305 Alberta Oil Peon
I'm liking that! Truly evil!
I used to work for Halliburton. At least Halliburton bought out the company I was working for at the time.
Were they as eeeeeeevil as advertised?
I heard Professional Drilling Services brought out Grey Wolf at the end of last year.
/observations as a possible investor, not oilfield worker
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:26:16am |
Well, I have to hit the rack for a few hours. My eyelids are getting droopy. It's been a fun evening, thanks to the fine company here. Keep well, all of you.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:27:38am |
re: #314 Alberta Oil Peon
G'nite! Don't let the typos bite!
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:28:36am |
re: #311 axegrinder
A lot of those earmarks in the latest omnibus go to Repubs. Greed is bipartisan.
You're talking the budget bill, right? The stimulus had no input from Repubs, except for a CERTAIN 3 Senators, from all I've read. But, I agree, and ranted a bit earlier on another thread, "GREED is Bi-Partisan"......
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:29:03am |
re: #314 Alberta Oil Peon
thx for the info on property. I'm going to do some research. nite.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:30:19am |
re: #313 Fenway_Nation
Were they as eeeeeeevil as advertised?
I heard Professional Drilling Services brought out Grey Wolf at the end of last year.
/observations as a possible investor, not oilfield worker
Not that I noticed. I went on to greener pastures before everything there (Sperry-Sun Drilling Services) got re-branded under the Halliburton logo. I still keep in touch with my former supervisor there from time to time, though.
Not familiar with Grey Wolf, or Professional Drilling Services. Is the latter a division of Precision Drilling, by any chance?
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:30:35am |
re: #316 Pietr
Yes, your right. I hope those 3 are being ostracized but it's more likely they're the toast of the town.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:32:56am |
re: #319 Alberta Oil Peon
I think the current admin. is scaring investors away from anything drilling right now. It's very good time to buy but I'd stick with the drill makers rather then the operators. We'll have to drill eventually, that's for certain.
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spinmore Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:33:14am |
(As I prepare to make my AM DD coffee run. Of course the Mrs. gets one also - even though she's still 'sawin' wood')
When burning books is no longer fashionable; there's always the "Fairness Doctrine"
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:33:55am |
re: #319 Alberta Oil Peon
Yes- they are Precision drilling. I typed 'Professional' just to keep you on your toes :}
Not that it's getting past 4 AM and my already questionable typing skills have diminished further....
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Pietr Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:35:32am |
re: #320 axegrinder
Specter will probably have an RNC backed opponent to face in his next election. The wife's family and our Pa friends say they'll never vote for him again. The other 2, I couldn't say for sure-it seems unlikely, given that they are East coast......
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:36:21am |
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:41:19am |
re: #321 axegrinder
The aforementioned Precision Drilling Trust is in the toilet right now, but could be worthwhile as a speculative pick. I'm not sure how safe that dividend is, tho'.
I think with Calgary-based Precision's acquisition of Grey Wolf, they significantly increased their presence in the USA and by extention, their vulnerability to Hussein Dolt's policies.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:42:36am |
re: #325 Slumbering Behemoth
Not bad. But I'm more of a Gov't Mule fan.
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axegrinder Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:47:27am |
re: #326 Fenway_Nation
Damn good p/e ratio. I'll take a closer look. One thing that is sure is that oil will go up again at some point and we'll have a business friendly admin. at some point. Then, if it's still around-the price will take off.
dj
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:48:44am |
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:55:04am |
Well.....I making almost as many gaffes as Hussein Dolt. Probably a sign that I should get some shuteye.
'Night axe!
'Night slumbering!
'Night any lizards who are lurking!
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Crux Australis Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:56:23am |
If God created the universe "perfect" why are the Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxies going to collide in about 5 billion years?
A question asked by a YECer or YUCer on another forum. Anyone up for an answer?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Mar 14, 2009 3:58:50am |
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golly Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:08:49am |
re: #332 Crux Australis
Who is to say what "perfection" is. Stasis is not perfection, it's stasis. A dynamic universe or system contains collisions, destuction, rebirth, death and competition. A good mental exercise is to try to imagine a system that works, grows and is self-sustaining that doesn't contain such elements.
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spinmore Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:27:25am |
Hey - Where'd everybody go? The Right-Coast is just getting started.
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spinmore Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:33:40am |
re: #336 golly
I'm sorry, as a "hatchling" - I'll need to look that one up.
I did laugh, but not sure why.
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golly Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:36:37am |
re: #337 spinmore
It's something I coined for myself ages ago, but I have never used it until today. Somewhere I even have a biker style Tshirt design made up. It is not accepted LGF terminology -- yet.
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Spiritualized Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:43:00am |
Obama's Poll Numbers Are Falling to Earth
Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date.
Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance.
And this is with the MSM covering his ass.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 4:50:42am |
9 nations agree on plan to stem arms flow to Gaza
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Yeah swell, wonderful, great but get this:
"But states are not obliged to join any particular action and the diplomat said that naval vessels would not use force."
Typical Bullshit or what?
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Spiritualized Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:17:05am |
Prominent Scientist Tells Congress: Earth in 'CO2 Famine'
"Many people don't realize that over geological time, we're really in a CO2 famine now. Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) – 280 (parts per million - ppm) – that's unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1000 (ppm) and it's been quite higher than that," Happer told the Senate Committee.
"Earth was just fine in those times," Happer added. "The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it's baffling to me that we're so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started," Happer explained. Happer also noted that "the number of [skeptical scientists] with the courage to speak out is growing" and he warned "children should not be force-fed propaganda, masquerading as science."
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monkeytime Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:17:24am |
Glad I don't live there!
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ciaospirit Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:17:49am |
Let's give ACORN more money so they can harass more Americans.
Arpaio protest takes on new tone
by JJ Hensley - Mar. 11, 2009 02:16 PM
The Arizona RepublicIt was the standard protest outside Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office, with a twist.
Instead of the anger that colors most of the demonstrations, there was an air of pride in the crowd of about 50 people gathered outside the Wells Fargo Building in downtown Phoenix on Wednesday.
With the Department of Justice's announcement on Tuesday that the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office was under investigation for discriminating in their police practices, activists who have protested Arpaio's policies for more than a year felt like their work had finally paid off.
"We made it, congratulations," said Teresa Castro, a political organizer with Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
"I know it's only one step," the ACORN leader was quick to add.
The issue facing the protestors now, said Randy Parraz, an organizer with Maricopa Citizens for Safety and Accountability, is how to build on this momentum in the coming year.
"This is a short-term victory. Our work is not done," Parraz said. "We have to continue to apply the pressure from the bottom up."
To that end, Parraz said organizers are coordinating a "week of action" to coincide with the March birth of the late labor leader Cesar Chavez that would include protests and fasting.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:20:55am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:21:35am |
Just a wee bit hung over.... please... don't type in all caps!
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:21:50am |
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:24:09am |
Oh, goody. Rod Blagojevitch complained that the state senate and house were "out to get him" because they wanted to raise taxes and he didn't. Now that he's out and Pat Quinn is governor, they have an $11 billion shortfall they have to fix.
Why can't they reduce spending by half--$5.5 billion--and then only increase taxes to make up the other half? Then everyone, including the house and senate and government, will really be sharing the suffering.
Morning, everyone.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:25:04am |
re: #349 Chicago Blonde
Morning FBV!
But did you have fun? :)
I'm sorry, but what is this "fun" you speak of? I'm exhausted from recaulking the bathroom and kitchen yesterday, and I get to put everything back today. And what do I do? I wake up before the alarm. That ain't right.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:25:11am |
re: #350 vxbush
Why can't they reduce spending by half--$5.5 billion--and then only increase taxes to make up the other half? Then everyone, including the house and senate and government, will really be sharing the suffering.
But that would make too much sense!
Morning, vxbush!
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ciaospirit Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:25:28am |
re: #343 Spiritualized
Al Gore ought to be shackled. Where's the Senate Judiciary Committee? Where's Senator Conyers? Oh, they're busy persecuting a sheriff.
‘The increase of CO2 is not a cause for alarm and will be good for mankind’
‘Children should not be force-fed propaganda, masquerading as science’
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:26:15am |
re: #352 Chicago Blonde
But that would make too much sense!
Morning, vxbush!
Morning to you too! Yes, sense is greatly missing in government at all levels these days. Too bad we don't have a pill for it. That's one medication that would be required for all politicians!
I don't suppose we can suggest to Eli Lilly or Pfizer to start looking for it?
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:26:35am |
Huckabee on FOX this morning. This guy is on TV more than ED McMahon was at his peak. Why I don't know?
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:26:54am |
re: #351 vxbush
Oh man. Do you have a day this weekend where you get to rest? Or is "rest" not on the menu?
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Crux Australis Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:28:56am |
It boggles my mind why Americans and Republicans in particular allow ACORN to exist. All future elections are bogus to say the least if ACORN is allowed to interfere in the electoral process.
What are conservatives doing about it?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:29:37am |
re: #356 Chicago Blonde
Oh man. Do you have a day this weekend where you get to rest? Or is "rest" not on the menu?
Well, I took some time off because I had things that I just couldn't seem to get to on the weekends, and that caulking had been staring me in the face for weeks and weeks. And I couldn't take it anymore.
So I pulled and scraped out the old caulk in both places, and of course moved everything out of the way so we could do the caulking. Then the hubby did the bathroom and I did the kitchen.
It's mostly dry, but still a bit soft in places based on my test caulk I pushed out on to a piece of plastic. We won't be able to shower until very late in the day.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:30:10am |
LA ends free pet sterilization program
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
They should institute a Free "Liberal" sterilization program.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:31:10am |
re: #349 Chicago Blonde
Morning FBV!
But did you have fun? :)
Headed out to a wake, couldn't find anyone who died, so just sat around and drank anyway.
Had a ball.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:31:53am |
re: #359 Nevergiveup
LA ends free pet sterilization program
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
They should institute a Free "Liberal" sterilization program.
You know, if I wasn't worried about it being completely politicized, I would suggest that depending on who is in power in state government, the opposition party should have a public review board independent of the government whose sole job is to identify programs and policies that are wasting state money and that should be stopped. Things like this would be at the top of my list!
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abaleh Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:32:41am |
Today is Einstein's 130th birthday.
Happy Birthday!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:33:53am |
re: #362 abaleh
Today is Einstein's 130th birthday.
Happy Birthday!
I want to make a joke based on the Ides of March, but nothing is coming. It's too early.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:34:34am |
re: #358 vxbush
and that caulking had been staring me in the face for weeks and weeks. And I couldn't take it anymore.
Ah, yes. Like I heard the ugly wallpaper in our bathroom yelling until I tore it down.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:35:59am |
re: #364 Chicago Blonde
Ah, yes. Like I heard the ugly wallpaper in our bathroom yelling until I tore it down.
Exactly! Of course, when I tried to do that, I discovered that the wallpaper had been attached with superglue. There was absolutely no way to pull it off. I had to hire guys to come in and replace the drywall. Yes, seriously. It was that bad.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:40:09am |
re: #365 vxbush
Arrggh! I'm sorry. I was able to get ours off but it took forever. The walls are now blue.
A friend of mine bought a house with that horrid 70s-era flocked and metallic wallpaper surgically attached to the hallway. She just had someone wall over it. The results were gorgeous but I know her wallet took a hit.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:42:39am |
re: #366 Chicago Blonde
Arrggh! I'm sorry. I was able to get ours off but it took forever. The walls are now blue.
A friend of mine bought a house with that horrid 70s-era flocked and metallic wallpaper surgically attached to the hallway. She just had someone wall over it. The results were gorgeous but I know her wallet took a hit.
I told my husband last night that I really wished I knew how to do more stuff around the house, like replacing flooring, cabinets, plumbing, electrical--you name it. Computers I can take apart and put back together, but I'm never quite sure that I'm doing things "right" when it comes to house stuff.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:44:35am |
re: #367 vxbush
I told my husband last night that I really wished I knew how to do more stuff around the house, like replacing flooring, cabinets, plumbing, electrical--you name it. Computers I can take apart and put back together, but I'm never quite sure that I'm doing things "right" when it comes to house stuff.
Rule one for electrical stuff: Try real hard NOT to burn the house down.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:46:31am |
re: #368 Nevergiveup
Rule one for electrical stuff: Try real hard NOT to burn the house down.
Good rule! We have a friend who is an electrician, and while he's got a great big heart, he's also an hour away now. I just can't steal him for a day to come over and show me what I need to do.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:46:35am |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:51:03am |
re: #361 vxbush
You know, if I wasn't worried about it being completely politicized, I would suggest that depending on who is in power in state government, the opposition party should have a public review board independent of the government whose sole job is to identify programs and policies that are wasting state money and that should be stopped. Things like this would be at the top of my list!
Here's the "problem" for state governments, and the dilemma for legislators:
The money being spent funds certain programs and services in various areas of the state.
In order to reduce spending, some programs and services must be cut out altogether, or reduced or cut in certain areas of the state.
The people in those areas raise holy hell to their legislators, who want to be reelected. So it is NOT in the interest of those legislators to actually reduce or cut things that will adversely affect their areas of the state.
In Louisiana, for many years, the thing was driver's license offices. Every little podunk town had a driver's license office, with one employee, staffed full-time. They might have one or two renewals or licenses a week.
Every time the legislature talked about closing those offices and consolidating driver's license operations into fewer offices located in the larger towns - well, you wouldn't believe the hue and cry. So for many years, these little offices stayed open WHEN THEY WEREN'T REALLY NECESSARY.
I like your idea of a public review board independent of the government.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:52:04am |
re: #368 Nevergiveup
Rule one for electrical stuff: Try real hard NOT to burn the house down.
Yipes, one can do almost anything around the house themselves with a good book on it, but stay away from anything electrical. that shit can kill you instantly, and if it does not, it will maim you horribly for life. It is always worth hiring an electrician
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:52:14am |
re: #370 Chicago Blonde
What's the worst that could happen?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:54:08am |
re: #373 CapeCoddah
Yipes, one can do almost anything around the house themselves with a good book on it, but stay away from anything electrical. that shit can kill you instantly, and if it does not, it will maim you horribly for life. It is always worth hiring an electrician
Some older homes are "wired" differently from what the current standards are. I know. We have an older home, and the wiring was done according to an older standard that is now obsolete. But hubby didn't know that. Heck, we had trouble finding an electrician who knew it.
Always hire when you need an electrician.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:54:13am |
re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's the worst that could happen?
Oh, I've learned to not ask that...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:54:41am |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:55:40am |
re: #375 reine.de.tout
Some older homes are "wired" differently from what the current standards are. I know. We have an older home, and the wiring was done according to an older standard that is now obsolete. But hubby didn't know that. Heck, we had trouble finding an electrician who knew it.
Always hire when you need an electrician.
Can't stress that enough. Most people do not realize that a twinkle light on your christmas tree can kill you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:55:56am |
Got a busy day. Can't gag on the lolly.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:57:41am |
re: #377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Famous last words, they are.
LOL! Right now, the one other project I'd like to do before summer is to tile the small piece of floor right next to the garage door and by the basement. It's a small square that would do just right for tile. But I have to replace the subflooring too. How the heck do I do that? I have no clue. I'm not sure what thickness of plywood is needed; how many screws I'll need; if I need to seal anything; etc. etc.
So I sort of know what questions to ask, but the "how" is a big question.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:59:44am |
re: #382 vxbush
My best friend, we'll call him "Bill" (because that is his name) once showed me how to do any and every type of improvement in the house.
"Look up a number, call someone who knows how to do that stuff."
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:59:54am |
re: #375 reine.de.tout
Some older homes are "wired" differently from what the current standards are. I know. We have an older home, and the wiring was done according to an older standard that is now obsolete. But hubby didn't know that. Heck, we had trouble finding an electrician who knew it.
Always hire when you need an electrician.
We have two types of outlets in this house: half are the older two-prong only style, and half are the three-prong grounded style. Alas, all the places where the two-prong outlets are, I need three-prong. But I simply don't think I can afford to hire an electrician to fix all the wiring. That would cost too much, I fear.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Mar 14, 2009 5:59:55am |
And here's to you, Mr. President
The Commies and Jihadi's love you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo): Cuba, Venezuela may host Russian bombers
A Russian Air Force chief said Saturday that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has offered an island as a temporary base for strategic Russian bombers, the Interfax news agency reported.The chief of staff of Russia's long range aviation, Maj. Gen. Anatoly Zhikharev, also said Cuba could be used to base the aircraft, Interfax reported.
The Kremlin, however, said the situation was hypothetical.
Hypothetical today, tomorrow?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:00:17am |
re: #383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My best friend, we'll call him "Bill" (because that is his name) once showed me how to do any and every type of improvement in the house.
"Look up a number, call someone who knows how to do that stuff."
LOL! But I'm not made of money, alas.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:00:48am |
re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Chicken
LOL, that I am. I worked for a lumber co ad a truck driver several years ago. The yard had hi powered lines , the main grid for the Cape running thru it. The owner had the electric company come in every 3 months to tell and show us just how dangerous it is... the films of victims will make anybody grow lotsa feathers quickly.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:01:23am |
re: #378 CapeCoddah
Can't stress that enough. Most people do not realize that a twinkle light on your christmas tree can kill you.
Um, source for that, please? My friend the electriician has been severely electrocuted in the past, and I'm sure it was far beyond the Christmas light wattage.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:02:01am |
re: #386 vxbush
Oh, yeah. Bill is well to do.
If you were made of money, you would be an inanimate object, which would make me sad for you.
Guess I should go. Bye.
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Cathypop Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:02:05am |
re: #383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Your friend Bill is very smart.
Good morning everyone.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:02:19am |
re: #389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, yeah. Bill is well to do.
If you were made of money, you would be an inanimate object, which would make me sad for you.
Guess I should go. Bye.
Have a good day! Break a leg.
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apachegunner Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:03:01am |
re: #384 vxbushVX they have adapters for that at the hardware store, cost about a buck
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:03:11am |
re: #382 vxbush
LOL! Right now, the one other project I'd like to do before summer is to tile the small piece of floor right next to the garage door and by the basement. It's a small square that would do just right for tile. But I have to replace the subflooring too. How the heck do I do that? I have no clue. I'm not sure what thickness of plywood is needed; how many screws I'll need; if I need to seal anything; etc. etc.
So I sort of know what questions to ask, but the "how" is a big question.
VX, when you tear up the subfloor, take a bit of it to a lumber yard, they will be able to tell you what to use to compensate for the thickness of the tile. They have planners that will help you out.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:03:51am |
re: #392 apachegunner
VX they have adapters for that at the hardware store, cost about a buck
Yes, they do. But is it really wise to use an adapter for a 1400 watt microwave? I'd really rather not burn my house down.
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quickjustice Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:03:53am |
re: #254 Alberta Oil Peon
I toured Alberta summer before last. Started in Medicine Hat, down to that fabulous park to the south (name?), up to Lethbridge through Ft. McLeod (Brokeback Mountain was filmed there), then to Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise and Jasper. Every part of that trip was fabulous.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:04:03am |
re: #388 vxbush
Um, source for that, please? My friend the electriician has been severely electrocuted in the past, and I'm sure it was far beyond the Christmas light wattage.
My source for that is national grid, and our extensive training on the dangers of electricity. It does not take much at all.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:04:49am |
re: #393 CapeCoddah
VX, when you tear up the subfloor, take a bit of it to a lumber yard, they will be able to tell you what to use to compensate for the thickness of the tile. They have planners that will help you out.
Ah! That could help.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:05:07am |
Good Morning Lizards!
how is everyone today?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:06:07am |
Hey Hoosier! Hows it going? Did my buddy contact you yet?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:06:14am |
re: #397 CapeCoddah
My source for that is national grid, and our extensive training on the dangers of electricity. It does not take much at all.
I suppose not, for some people. I know my friend has been shocked by regular 115v current. He was not a happy camper, and clearly recognized he had been stupid.
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apachegunner Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:06:49am |
re: #395 vxbush
Yes, they do. But is it really wise to use an adapter for a 1400 watt microwave? I'd really rather not burn my house down.
uh, well on the other hand....
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:06:52am |
re: #399 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
how is everyone today?
Morning. We're talking house repairs. I'm debating the smartnes of putting a 1400 watt microwave oven on a two-prong to three-prong adapter.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:06:57am |
By the way...Home improvement hint (seriously).
If you have to hire someone to do a teeny tiny home improvement job? Find several other little things he/she can handle...won't cost much more than the first job alone.
The expensive part of getting an electrician/carpenter to work for you for small jobs is getting him/her there to begin with. Once they are at your house, each job is less expensive.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:07:24am |
re: #400 CapeCoddah
Hey Hoosier! Hows it going? Did my buddy contact you yet?
Good Morning..Yes he did...very nice man..
How are you today?
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:09:40am |
re: #375 reine.de.tout
Some older homes are "wired" differently from what the current standards are. I know. We have an older home, and the wiring was done according to an older standard that is now obsolete. But hubby didn't know that. Heck, we had trouble finding an electrician who knew it.
Always hire when you need an electrician.
Good morning, Lizards.
Wow. Talk about coincidences. One of the things I was reminding myself to mention next time I logged in is that on Tuesday (weather permitting) I'm having an electrical contractor tear out most of my wiring, down to the power company lead-in, and install all new, up-to-code systems. The wiring in this house dates to the early 1960s, and the lead-in is probably older. It's been OK up to now, but I'm the sort that worries.
Being a "country boy", I never realized until I moved in town just how much sheer paperwork is involved once you're inside the corporation limit. Out in the country, when I had it done to my old house, it was "call contractor, check weather, have it done, wham, bam, all over". In town, it's "call contractor, he calls city engineer, gets house and wiring inspected, gets fire department OK, ensures that an outside cutoff is put in for FD, gets work permit, then we check the weather." In a word, Arrggh.
But it's still worth doing. Even though I'll probably be working on half an electrical system, or less, for a couple of days.
So if I'm not around next Tuesday or Wednesday, you now know why.
And yes- definitely get it done by a licensed pro. Anything else just isn't worth doing.
cheers
eon
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:09:50am |
re: #401 vxbush
I suppose not, for some people. I know my friend has been shocked by regular 115v current. He was not a happy camper, and clearly recognized he had been stupid.
Yeah, it is scary stuff. We drove tractors with 20' flatbeds that we could dump a load of lumber off with. the beds could go up to 30' in the air, and the owner constantly had the electric co drill the dangers into us so no one got hurt, mostly to beware of low wires on job sites. It was excellent training.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:10:03am |
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:10:49am |
Okay, a quick internet search yielded this page and said the following:
If you look around your house, what you will find is that just about every appliance with a metal case has a three-prong outlet. This may also include some things, like your computer, that have a metal-encased power supply inside even if the device itself comes in a plastic case. The idea behind grounding is to protect the people who use metal-encased appliances from electric shock. The casing is connected directly to the ground prong.Let's say that a wire comes loose inside an ungrounded metal case, and the loose wire touches the metal case. If the loose wire is hot, then the metal case is now hot, and anyone who touches it will get a potentially fatal shock. With the case grounded, the electricity from the hot wire flows straight to ground, and this trips the fuse in the fuse box. Now the appliance won't work, but it won't kill you either.
What happens if you cut off the ground prong or use a cheater plug so you can plug a three-prong appliance into a two-prong outlet? Nothing really -- the appliance will still operate. What you have done, however, is disable an important safety feature that protects you from electric shock if a wire comes loose.
Italics mine.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:10:56am |
re: #406 HoosierHoops
Good Morning..Yes he did...very nice man..
How are you today?
I am wonderful, and yes, he and his wife are great people. I really appreciate you doing that.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:11:17am |
Good morning Y'all - from a coolish (38 degrees going up to 43 degrees) and rainy Charlotte! We are supposed to be getting a LOT of rain today through tonight and tomorrow.
How is everyone doing this morning?
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:11:51am |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:12:19am |
re: #408 eon
Good morning, Lizards.
Wow. Talk about coincidences. One of the things I was reminding myself to mention next time I logged in is that on Tuesday (weather permitting) I'm having an electrical contractor tear out most of my wiring, down to the power company lead-in, and install all new, up-to-code systems. The wiring in this house dates to the early 1960s, and the lead-in is probably older. It's been OK up to now, but I'm the sort that worries.
Being a "country boy", I never realized until I moved in town just how much sheer paperwork is involved once you're inside the corporation limit. Out in the country, when I had it done to my old house, it was "call contractor, check weather, have it done, wham, bam, all over". In town, it's "call contractor, he calls city engineer, gets house and wiring inspected, gets fire department OK, ensures that an outside cutoff is put in for FD, gets work permit, then we check the weather." In a word, Arrggh.
But it's still worth doing. Even though I'll probably be working on half an electrical system, or less, for a couple of days.
So if I'm not around next Tuesday or Wednesday, you now know why.
And yes- definitely get it done by a licensed pro. Anything else just isn't worth doing.
cheers
eon
Good luck Eon, sounds like quite an undertaking!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:12:32am |
re: #408 eon
Being a "country boy", I never realized until I moved in town just how much sheer paperwork is involved once you're inside the corporation limit. Out in the country, when I had it done to my old house, it was "call contractor, check weather, have it done, wham, bam, all over". In town, it's "call contractor, he calls city engineer, gets house and wiring inspected, gets fire department OK, ensures that an outside cutoff is put in for FD, gets work permit, then we check the weather." In a word, Arrggh.
Ah, yes, the value of living in the country. One of many reasons I love it.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:13:07am |
re: #414 HoosierHoops
/is it that obvious?
What, the huge screw in your head? Nah, nobody will notice.
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yochanan Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:14:03am |
re: #395 vxbush
get a power strip they have circuit breakers in them if you use too much power.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:14:12am |
re: #384 vxbush
We have two types of outlets in this house: half are the older two-prong only style, and half are the three-prong grounded style. Alas, all the places where the two-prong outlets are, I need three-prong. But I simply don't think I can afford to hire an electrician to fix all the wiring. That would cost too much, I fear.
I have the same thing. We've replaced some of the 2-prong outlets with 3-prongs; they aren't grounded, but we can at least use them.
Also, you can get adapters. I use them, and haven't burned down my house yet.
what you don't want to do is plug more than 2 things into one outlet, using one of those adapters that you plug in and it has 4 outlets to it.
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:14:48am |
re: #414 HoosierHoops
Morning Hoosier! Glad you had fun!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:15:11am |
re: #418 yochanan
get a power strip they have circuit breakers in them if you use too much power.
Ah! That is a good idea. I like it.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:15:40am |
re: #419 reine.de.tout
I have the same thing. We've replaced some of the 2-prong outlets with 3-prongs; they aren't grounded, but we can at least use them.
Also, you can get adapters. I use them, and haven't burned down my house yet.
what you don't want to do is plug more than 2 things into one outlet, using one of those adapters that you plug in and it has 4 outlets to it.
Heh. Or six.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:16:07am |
re: #421 vxbush
Ah! That is a good idea. I like it.
The power strips are gonna be 3 prongers, though
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:16:47am |
re: #422 vxbush
Heh. Or six.
LOL! That made me think of The Old Man in A Christmas Story, playing musical plugs with that overloaded, smoking outlet...
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:17:22am |
Palestinian reconciliation negotiators in Cairo signed an agreement to prohibit fighting or the use of weapons to settle internal disputes, a Palestinian academic said Saturday.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Hold on a sec, I gotta piss I'm laughing so much. OK, I'm back. Any bets on how long this holds?
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apachegunner Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:17:25am |
re: #414 HoosierHoops
yes, and I can tell ya had a great nite, right?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:17:56am |
re: #422 vxbush
Heh. Or six.
Uh-oh.
Sounds like experience?
My house was build probably in the 30's or 40's -
I can't use my hair dryer and the space heater in the bathroom at the same time, it will blow a circuit.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:19:11am |
re: #423 CapeCoddah
The power strips are gonna be 3 prongers, though
Right, but that's okay. I'm thinking I could get a small one that has at most three outlets on it (the vast majority that I've seen always have five or six) and use it with the adapter. At least that way I don't feel like I'm going to potentially electrocute myself if I use the adapter.
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:19:13am |
re: #385 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
And here's to you, Mr. President
The Commies and Jihadi's love you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo): Cuba, Venezuela may host Russian bombersHypothetical today, tomorrow?
Did I just wake up in 1962?
/And The One hasn't even invaded Hugo or Fidel's Raul's playpen(s).
Aristotle once (wrongly) observed that "Nature abhors a vacuum". In fact, Nature loves vacuum- most of the Universe is vacuum (word up, Ari).
But geopolitics isn't Nature. It d***ed well does abhor a power vacuum. Even, or especially, if it's one that somebody is trying to create deliberately, in the hope that everybody else in the game will "make nice", come together, and sing Kumbaya.
What inevitably happens is that somebody else moves into the available space, if they even think it might be vacant, and starts pushing everybody else around. Especially whoever was dumb enough to make noises like they wanted to "play nice" to start with.
There's a reason that it's always been said that the office of President of the United States is no place for amateurs, or on-the-job training. This is it.
Thanks for nothing, Barry.
You too, Hilly.
cheers
eon
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:20:17am |
re: #420 Chicago Blonde
Morning Hoosier! Glad you had fun!
Good Morning Blonde!
We love dancing...there is a group of 6 of us that go out on the town...
one of the girls slipped and fell last night during the song crazy bitch and we were laughing so hard..
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:20:19am |
Well how's about some music y'all?
Your text to link...
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:20:51am |
re: #428 vxbush
Right, but that's okay. I'm thinking I could get a small one that has at most three outlets on it (the vast majority that I've seen always have five or six) and use it with the adapter. At least that way I don't feel like I'm going to potentially electrocute myself if I use the adapter.
Just please be careful!
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Chicago Blonde Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:21:05am |
Morning Realwest!
And I'm sorry but I've gotta go - have a great morning all!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:21:41am |
re: #427 reine.de.tout
Uh-oh.
Sounds like experience?My house was build probably in the 30's or 40's -
I can't use my hair dryer and the space heater in the bathroom at the same time, it will blow a circuit.
Not at home, but at work.
The power in our building is seriously funky, and we have dead outlets and power problems all the time. I have begged the company to have electricians come out and fix it, and while they have taken one Saturday and tested all the wires and tightened stuff, we still have problems with parts of the building just suddenly losing power. One of the culprits recently turned out to be a six-outlet adapter where someone had plugged in more stuff than you can imagine. That person got a scolding from me. When I told the electrician, he just rolled his eyes.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:22:07am |
re: #428 vxbush
Right, but that's okay. I'm thinking I could get a small one that has at most three outlets on it (the vast majority that I've seen always have five or six) and use it with the adapter. At least that way I don't feel like I'm going to potentially electrocute myself if I use the adapter.
The 3-prong plus are supposed to be grounded plugs.
Using an adapter in a 2-prong outlet won't electrocute you, we do it.
What you don't want to do is overload the circuits and burn your house down.
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:22:41am |
re: #401 vxbush
I suppose not, for some people. I know my friend has been shocked by regular 115v current. He was not a happy camper, and clearly recognized he had been stupid.
It's not the voltage that gets you but the current. Given a good enough connection, a voltage as low as 53 volts can kill you. 120v at your outlet (200 in Japan and 220 in a lot of other places) at your wall outlet can be lethal, even if you are dealing with little twinkle lights on a Christmas tree. Overhead power lines start at 5000 volts and go up from there. I got hit one time when I got too close to an 800v power supply, but luckily the current went in the arm and out the hand and didn't go through the boiler room. Survival depends on how much current goes through the heart, and whether you get damage from burns. People get hit by lightning and survive sometimes. Current above a certain range acts as a reset to the heart and can restore normal rhythm. (Pass the paddles, Jake or he's a gonner!)
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Luigi Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:22:59am |
Representative Maxine Waters (D - CA) appears to be involved in more brazen malfeasance than the bankers she rudely cursed out in recent bailout hearings...
Waters Helped Bank Whose Stock She Once Owned
WASHINGTON -- When Rep. Barney Frank was looking to aid a Boston-based lender last fall, the Massachusetts Democrat urged Maxine Waters, a colleague on the House Financial Services Committee, to "stay out of it," he says.The reason: Ms. Waters, a longtime congresswoman from California, had close ties to the minority-owned institution, OneUnited Bank.
Ms. Waters and her husband have both held financial stakes in the bank.
Until recently, her husband was a director. At the same time, Ms. Waters has publicly boosted OneUnited's executives and criticized its government regulators during congressional hearings. Last fall, she helped secure the bank a meeting with Treasury officials.
The only thing worse than a hypocrite is a loud, brazen, downright mean one.
Here she is being high and mighty with the banking CEO's. It's long tape, so you might not want to watch it. She is especially rude to Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis.
A few days later, at the BofA annual public meeting Lewis said he is in a "hurry" to give the Congress it's money back. I'll bet he is. I'll bet next time they need money they'll go to Tony Soprano before the House Banking Committee.
Lewis said when the housing cycle starts up again they'll be able to pay back the money. That's probably wishful thinking because the Democrats may find a way to keep keep Americans poor until they can corral more of the economy.
That's how America practices socialism. Like Al Capone. In western Europe at least they get stuff like this for their money. I can't help feeling Obama & Co. is looking at a more East European model.
And it is socialism. Waters admitted that last year when she threatened the oil company execs by telling them what kind of liberal she is. "This liberal would be about socializing..um..um...would be about...basically taking over"
Just one more thing. Sean Hannity, who I admire, says we shouldn't try socialism because it doesn't work. Frankly, I don't care if it does work. I don't want it. I want the Constitution. I want America. I want the government to just leave me the f*ck alone.
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summergurl Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:23:14am |
re: #395 vxbush
Yes, they do. But is it really wise to use an adapter for a 1400 watt microwave? I'd really rather not burn my house down.
We're very lucky - one son is an electrician and the other a contractor.
Morning Lizards
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:24:11am |
re: #438 Luigi
Nothing Maxine Waters does would surprise me
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:24:31am |
re: #411 vxbush
Okay, a quick internet search yielded this page and said the following:
Italics mine.
That "cheater plug" will still properly ground the appliance, if you attach that little wire with the fork on the end to the screw that holds the faceplate on the electrical outlet. That screw acts as the ground, by using the outlet's chassis as the common ground (if the chassis isn't grounded, the outlet will short).
I've had to use such plugs, and always used the little wire. I've run across such plugs that somebody has cut or broken the little wire off of, too- they get tossed in the trash.
Not the best solution (that's the properly grounded three-prong outlet), but better than nothing.
cheers
eon
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:24:34am |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:25:18am |
re: #440 summergurl
We're very lucky - one son is an electrician and the other a contractor.
Morning Lizards
Morning summer,,, those are wonderful pets to have!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:26:30am |
re: #437 UncleRancher
It's not the voltage that gets you but the current. Given a good enough connection, a voltage as low as 53 volts can kill you. 120v at your outlet (200 in Japan and 220 in a lot of other places) at your wall outlet can be lethal, even if you are dealing with little twinkle lights on a Christmas tree. Overhead power lines start at 5000 volts and go up from there. I got hit one time when I got too close to an 800v power supply, but luckily the current went in the arm and out the hand and didn't go through the boiler room. Survival depends on how much current goes through the heart, and whether you get damage from burns. People get hit by lightning and survive sometimes. Current above a certain range acts as a reset to the heart and can restore normal rhythm. (Pass the paddles, Jake or he's a gonner!)
Okay, so here's a question: can you remind me of the relationship between watts, volts, and amps? I had this once back in physics in high school, but cannot remember.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:27:25am |
re: #443 eon
That "cheater plug" will still properly ground the appliance, if you attach that little wire with the fork on the end to the screw that holds the faceplate on the electrical outlet. That screw acts as the ground, by using the outlet's chassis as the common ground (if the chassis isn't grounded, the outlet will short).
I've had to use such plugs, and always used the little wire. I've run across such plugs that somebody has cut or broken the little wire off of, too- they get tossed in the trash.
Not the best solution (that's the properly grounded three-prong outlet), but better than nothing.
cheers
eon
Right. This house is old enough (1950's) that I think the chassis will be grounded. I think. But I'm trying to be careful, as this is a micrwave and it is basically a large metal box.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:27:49am |
re: #438 Luigi Good morning Luigi - so you're saying Maxine is just being a regular politician then, right? Hypocritical, lying, over-paid/under worked bitch who wants socialism because, by gosh it's done SO WELL EVERYWHERE IT'S BEEN TRIED, right?
Or are you just pissed off that our ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES are trying to destroy our Constitution or both?!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:27:58am |
re: #445 CapeCoddah
Morning summer,,, those are wonderful pets to have!
Pets? Sons are Pets?
I'm so confused....
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:28:35am |
re: #450 realwest
Good morning Luigi - so you're saying Maxine is just being a regular politician then, right? Hypocritical, lying, over-paid/under worked bitch who wants socialism because, by gosh it's done SO WELL EVERYWHERE IT'S BEEN TRIED, right?
Or are you just pissed off that our ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES are trying to destroy our Constitution or both?!
I just wish that politicians could stop getting away with this myself. It just drives me batty.
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:28:36am |
re: #415 CapeCoddah
Good luck Eon, sounds like quite an undertaking!
Thanks. It falls into the "better to be safe than sorry" category.
/Being awakened by my smoke detectors at 2 AM I do not need.
cheers
eon
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:29:04am |
re: #441 apachegunner
Hey Guns! I'm doing ok, I guess - having a helluva hard time waking up this morning, though! How are you doing today?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:29:22am |
re: #451 vxbush
Pets? Sons are Pets?
I'm so confused....
LOL, electricians and contractors... it is an old joke here. Locksmith's and plumbers are also great pets to have!
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:29:48am |
re: #448 vxbush
Okay, so here's a question: can you remind me of the relationship between watts, volts, and amps? I had this once back in physics in high school, but cannot remember.
I=current
V=voltage
R=resistance
Ohm's law: I=V/R
Power W=i^2*R = VI (watts)
Power is a bit more complicated for ac circuits because you have to consider the effect of inductive or capacitive loads.
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summergurl Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:30:27am |
re: #445 CapeCoddah
Morning summer,,, those are wonderful pets to have!
Aren't they though?
One thing I have learned is if you have outdoor low voltage lighting you get totally screwed if you have a lighting contract provide you with a service contract on your lights. Here is what happened to us - we have about 40 lights in our backyard/side yards and they wanted 18.00 per light per year to "warranty" them . What that really means is that if the light burns out they come and replace the bulb - and every year they replace (so they tell you) each bulb. Oldest son, electrician, laughed when he heard this, went and bought us a pack of 12 bulbs for 26.95 for one type of our lights, and then a pack for under 30.00 of 12 for the other type.. he said for less than 60.00 you now have back up light bulbs and they are not going to burn out in a year. 60.00 versus 720.00? seems like the thing to do. He showed us how to replace it - whoppity-doo, even I could do it.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:30:53am |
re: #444 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! Syracuse won another OT Game the same date that they won that MONSTER game against UConn!
I wish Syracuse would stop fooling around already!
I'm doing ok, how's about you?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:31:13am |
re: #455 CapeCoddah
LOL, electricians and contractors... it is an old joke here. Locksmith's and plumbers are also great pets to have!
I admit, I haven't been around as much as I would like lately, but I've been on LGF since 2004 and I don't recall that joke.
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apachegunner Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:31:16am |
re: #454 realwest
Hey Guns! I'm doing ok, I guess - having a helluva hard time waking up this morning, though! How are you doing today?
WAKE UP! errrr, did that help? I'm well thanks.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:31:26am |
Hamas blasts international plan to stop Gaza arms smuggling
Nasrallah vows to never recognize Israel
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yup, lets put pressure on Israel to make "Peace" with these animals. Clinton and Obama should have their heads examined.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:32:12am |
re: #447 CapeCoddah
Good morning CapeCoddah! I'm ok, just can't seem to wake up today; how are you doing?
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:32:34am |
re: #459 realwest
Hi ya Hoops! Syracuse won another OT Game the same date that they won that MONSTER game against UConn!
I wish Syracuse would stop fooling around already!
I'm doing ok, how's about you?
I just watched the Highlights on ESPN..Wow!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:32:53am |
re: #456 UncleRancher
I=current
V=voltage
R=resistanceOhm's law: I=V/R
Power W=i^2*R = VI (watts)Power is a bit more complicated for ac circuits because you have to consider the effect of inductive or capacitive loads.
Thanks! Favorited for future reference.
Of course, your issue regarding inductive or capacitive loads makes me think of all the weirdness with special relativity....
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:33:40am |
re: #453 eon
Thanks. It falls into the "better to be safe than sorry" category.
/Being awakened by my smoke detectors at 2 AM I do not need.
cheers
eon
The previous owners of our home had had some electrical work done, apparently by the three stooges, and about a year ago, our lights started flickering during a heavy rainstorm. Hubby went to check the panel, and found a waterfall cascading down thru it. Larry, Moe and Curley had put the water guard for the main line coming into the house on backwards. We had no idea water had been getting in for a long time. We were told the house would have gone up that night had we not found it. there would have been no chance to save the house or probably get out, either, as it was built in the 20's and the layout would have trapped us had we been asleep.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:34:55am |
re: #467 CapeCoddah
The previous owners of our home had had some electrical work done, apparently by the three stooges, and about a year ago, our lights started flickering during a heavy rainstorm. Hubby went to check the panel, and found a waterfall cascading down thru it. Larry, Moe and Curley had put the water guard for the main line coming into the house on backwards. We had no idea water had been getting in for a long time. We were told the house would have gone up that night had we not found it. there would have been no chance to save the house or probably get out, either, as it was built in the 20's and the layout would have trapped us had we been asleep.
EGADS! How horrible!
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:35:27am |
re: #458 summergurl
Aren't they though?
One thing I have learned is if you have outdoor low voltage lighting you get totally screwed if you have a lighting contract provide you with a service contract on your lights. Here is what happened to us - we have about 40 lights in our backyard/side yards and they wanted 18.00 per light per year to "warranty" them . What that really means is that if the light burns out they come and replace the bulb - and every year they replace (so they tell you) each bulb. Oldest son, electrician, laughed when he heard this, went and bought us a pack of 12 bulbs for 26.95 for one type of our lights, and then a pack for under 30.00 of 12 for the other type.. he said for less than 60.00 you now have back up light bulbs and they are not going to burn out in a year. 60.00 versus 720.00? seems like the thing to do. He showed us how to replace it - whoppity-doo, even I could do it.
Awesome stuff. Worth every penny to raise and educate them!
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:36:14am |
re: #463 realwest
Good morning CapeCoddah! I'm ok, just can't seem to wake up today; how are you doing?
Great real, and finally awake myself after 3 cups of tea.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:36:33am |
re: #469 CapeCoddah
Awesome stuff. Worth every penny to raise and educate them!
Alas, and here am I with no sons or relatives who can help with this sort of stuff. Rats.
Can I borrow someone's kids for a summer? Preferably the kind who can do this kind of work?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:36:40am |
re: #460 vxbush
I admit, I haven't been around as much as I would like lately, but I've been on LGF since 2004 and I don't recall that joke.
LOL, Cape Cod Joke!
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Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:37:30am |
re: #462 Nevergiveup
Hamas blasts international plan to stop Gaza arms smuggling
Nasrallah vows to never recognize Israel
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yup, lets put pressure on Israel to make "Peace" with these animals. Clinton and Obama should have their heads examined.
The Nazis were not as brazen. At least those animals tried to hide what they thought and did from the world. These f***s just tell the world. And the world doesn't care. The forces of darkness are beginning to realize this fact, that the world doesn't care anymore. They openly state their goals. Folks in the O administration are pretty up front in telling us that they plan on using crises manufactured for the purpose of using them to advance Marxism and nobody cares. They don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. They think they're unstoppable. I've yet to see evidence that they are wrong on this count.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:37:31am |
re: #452 vxbush
Good morning {vxbush} - I'd like to tar and feather the lot of 'em all and start with brand new congresscritters (I will not mention His Name Here) who actually think and believe that they're supposed to represent the will of their consitutents!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:37:45am |
re: #472 CapeCoddah
LOL, Cape Cod Joke!
Oh, "old joke here" not meaning "here on LGF", but "here at the Cape." Gotcha. See, that one flew right over my head. I can hear it rustling now....
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:38:10am |
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:38:15am |
re: #466 vxbush
Thanks! Favorited for future reference.
Of course, your issue regarding inductive or capacitive loads makes me think of all the weirdness with special relativity....
Yep, then to really get into it you need to study Maxwell's equations where you learn that it all works the same from dc to light and a nanosecond is about 9 inches long.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:39:23am |
re: #471 vxbush
Alas, and here am I with no sons or relatives who can help with this sort of stuff. Rats.
Can I borrow someone's kids for a summer? Preferably the kind who can do this kind of work?
Sure..I'll send you our 16 yr old for the summer..It maybe cheaper to hire a union contractor than to feed him though
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:39:46am |
re: #474 realwest
Good morning {vxbush} - I'd like to tar and feather the lot of 'em all and start with brand new congresscritters (I will not mention His Name Here) who actually think and believe that they're supposed to represent the will of their consitutents!
Morning {real}. Yes, I suppose a tarring and feathering would help, but then wouldn't they just turn around and become lobbyists if we shoved them out of office? That's what happens now and it doesn't really help.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:39:54am |
re: #457 Luigi Uh, well I want 'em all tossed out on their asses, criminally prosecuted for their criminal ventures and new representatives elected in their place.
And I'd love to have Maxine locked up with Pelosi as her cellmate!
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:40:07am |
re: #448 vxbush
Okay, so here's a question: can you remind me of the relationship between watts, volts, and amps? I had this once back in physics in high school, but cannot remember.
Watts- Unit of energy defined as ability to do work over time (as in "kilowatt-hours). Peak output capacity of sources, and total amount used by consumer, as seen on your electric bill each month.
Volts- Amount of power available defined as steady current, i.e. sustained throughput of system. Also the maximum rated safe load of an appliance, etc., as seen on the little Underwriters Laboratory (UL) tag on the cord or chassis.
Amps- Ability of current to overcome inherent resistance of conductors, the latter measured in Ohms. As seen on the circuit breakers in your breaker box or, if your system is old, on the fuses in your fuse box. Overloads (surges) cause the breakers to open, or the fuses to "blow", protecting your home system- and incidentally preventing your house from catching on fire.
/The fact that solar and wind power are both irregular in voltage and amperage, no matter what their peak wattage is, is the reason that they are noncompetitive as mainline electric power sources. They cannot generate sufficient amperage to overcome the resistance (ohms) of long transmission lines. Ohm's Law rules the world of electric power generation.
cheers
eon
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:40:31am |
re: #477 UncleRancher
Yep, then to really get into it you need to study Maxwell's equations where you learn that it all works the same from dc to light and a nanosecond is about 9 inches long.
Oh! Maxwell's equations! That's MATH! I can do that!
Point me to a resource, and I am so there...
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:41:08am |
re: #478 HoosierHoops
Sure..I'll send you our 16 yr old for the summer..It maybe cheaper to hire a union contractor than to feed him though
Oh. Riiiiiight.
[looks in wallet]
How about for two weeks instead?
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soccerdad Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:41:13am |
This is precious, it is like the Dems simply will away the cause and effect of a weakling in the oval office:
Venezuela Offers to Host Russian Strategic Bombers
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:41:26am |
re: #480 realwest
Uh, well I want 'em all tossed out on their asses, criminally prosecuted for their criminal ventures and new representatives elected in their place.
And I'd love to have Maxine locked up with Pelosi as her cellmate!
That may fall under "Cruel and unusual punishment", Real
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:41:57am |
re: #462 Nevergiveup
"Clinton and Obama should have their heads examined handed to 'em.
There, FTFY!
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:42:35am |
re: #486 realwest
"Clinton and Obama should have their heads
examinedhanded to 'em.
There, FTFY!
They would have to extract them from their respective asses first.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:43:15am |
re: #465 HoosierHoops
I couldn't even do that - that Syracuse-UConn game wiped my ass OUT! LOL!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:44:58am |
Good Morning all!
How is everyone today?
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:45:07am |
re: #470 CapeCoddah TEA!?
EGAD's I'm on my third cup of coffee and still can't wake up (athough in my case my meds probably have something to do with it! LOL!).
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:45:30am |
re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good Morning all!
How is everyone today?
Hi Vet! good seeing you..How is every little thing?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:45:45am |
re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good Morning all!
How is everyone today?
Well, but thinking I might have been better off learning a trade and being an electrician, rather than a mathematician. I'd be able to work on my own house. :D
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:46:00am |
Technology that tracks millions of 911 calls from cell phones in the United States every month is being deployed in Middle Eastern and Asian-Pacific countries to track terror suspects — but legal obstacles prevent widespread usage in the U.S., and some critics say this hampers authorities from tracking suspected terrorists and other dangerous criminals on American soil.
Have You Forgotten?
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:46:39am |
re: #482 vxbush
Oh! Maxwell's equations! That's MATH! I can do that!
Point me to a resource, and I am so there...
First I have to apologize, the nanosecond is actually about 11.8 inches long, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference to most folks. If you're really serious about Maxwell's equations, I usually pick up Ramo and Whinnery "Fields and Waves in Modern Radio", or William H. Hayt "Engineering Electromagnetics". It really is fascinating stuff.
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:46:53am |
re: #467 CapeCoddah
The previous owners of our home had had some electrical work done, apparently by the three stooges, and about a year ago, our lights started flickering during a heavy rainstorm. Hubby went to check the panel, and found a waterfall cascading down thru it. Larry, Moe and Curley had put the water guard for the main line coming into the house on backwards. We had no idea water had been getting in for a long time. We were told the house would have gone up that night had we not found it. there would have been no chance to save the house or probably get out, either, as it was built in the 20's and the layout would have trapped us had we been asleep.
Thank G-d for your hubby. I've never had that problem, but the habit of builders that puts fuse boxes, breaker boxes, etc., in basements has always bothered me. I'm no expert, but even I know that electricity and moisture don't mix. And show me a basement that is always bone dry, 365 days a year (or 366 in a leap year).
I prefer them somewhere dry and easily accessible in an emergency. Ideally, with a Type C fire extinguisher close to hand.
/I have a fully-charged commercial A-B-C model right across the room from me as I type this. Like I said, I'm the type that worries.
cheers
eon
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gregg Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:46:53am |
I see that just one month after fixing their 41 billion dollar budget gap, California is now facing a new 8 billion dollar shortfall. Everyone sing along, "California here we come, right back where we started from..."
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:47:02am |
re: #490 realwest
TEA!?
EGAD's I'm on my third cup of coffee and still can't wake up (athough in my case my meds probably have something to do with it! LOL!).
Don't like hot coffee or alcohol. Cannot stand the taste of either, so, tea it is.
I love Bigelow's various teas, they have some awesome ones. English teatime this morning.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:47:18am |
re: #493 Nevergiveup
Technology that tracks millions of 911 calls from cell phones in the United States every month is being deployed in Middle Eastern and Asian-Pacific countries to track terror suspects — but legal obstacles prevent widespread usage in the U.S., and some critics say this hampers authorities from tracking suspected terrorists and other dangerous criminals on American soil.
[Video]Have You Forgotten?
Well, the FBI already has the ability to tap into cell phones and listen into conversations, even if the phone is off. I think hearing the conversation would be slightly more important than just knowing where someone is.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:47:23am |
re: #473 Taqiyyotomist
"They don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. They think they're unstoppable. I've yet to see evidence that they are wrong on this count."
Uh, what? (sorry, busy sharpening the points on the pitchfork and wrapping towels soaked in pine "sauce" around clubs)!
| 500 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:48:01am |
re: #492 vxbush
Well, but thinking I might have been better off learning a trade and being an electrician, rather than a mathematician. I'd be able to work on my own house. :D
You should have no problem figuring out how much tile you need!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:48:44am |
re: #497 CapeCoddah
Don't like hot coffee or alcohol. Cannot stand the taste of either, so, tea it is.
I love Bigelow's various teas, they have some awesome ones. English teatime this morning.
English Teatime rocks. As does Irish Breakfast.
Yum, yum. I may need to go make some now.
| 502 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:49:16am |
re: #479 vxbush Nah, the way wed treat 'em if I was King in charge, they'd never show their faces in public again and would have no influence to peddle!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:49:31am |
re: #500 CapeCoddah
You should have no problem figuring out how much tile you need!
LOL! True, and I can actually measure stuff pretty well; I check three times before I cut.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:49:51am |
re: #502 realwest
Nah, the way wed treat 'em if I was
Kingin charge, they'd never show their faces in public again and would have no influence to peddle!
WELL WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? GET TO WORK!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:50:31am |
re: #494 UncleRancher
First I have to apologize, the nanosecond is actually about 11.8 inches long, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference to most folks. If you're really serious about Maxwell's equations, I usually pick up Ramo and Whinnery "Fields and Waves in Modern Radio", or William H. Hayt "Engineering Electromagnetics". It really is fascinating stuff.
Oh, future toys and light reading. Fabulous.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:51:01am |
re: #495 eon
Thank G-d for your hubby. I've never had that problem, but the habit of builders that puts fuse boxes, breaker boxes, etc., in basements has always bothered me. I'm no expert, but even I know that electricity and moisture don't mix. And show me a basement that is always bone dry, 365 days a year (or 366 in a leap year).
I prefer them somewhere dry and easily accessible in an emergency. Ideally, with a Type C fire extinguisher close to hand.
/I have a fully-charged commercial A-B-C model right across the room from me as I type this. Like I said, I'm the type that worries.
cheers
eon
Yeah, me too, and fire has always been my biggest fear. I also have extinguishers all over the place. Thank the lord I have never had to use one.
You an have the box put anywhere you want it, just let the electrician know. It
would be better I think if the box was ABOVE the water source.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:51:20am |
re: #491 HoosierHoops
I'm well... my mom now has COPD to add to her ailments (she's still in the hospital, but seems alert and well)... son pitched his first three college innings so far (missed out on his second start due to rain), did pretty good.
re: #492 vxbush
Stick to math. We need more mathematicians!
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:51:25am |
re: #501 vxbush
English Teatime rocks. As does Irish Breakfast.
Yum, yum. I may need to go make some now.
Constant Comment is my absolute favorite!
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:51:38am |
re: #505 vxbush
Oh, future toys and light reading. Fabulous.
I usually prescribe these things for insomnia.
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:51:46am |
re: #484 soccerdad
"US sends squadron of F-22 Raptors to Guantanamo Bay for training exercises". That OUGHT to be tomorrow's headline!
Followed by the sad news that Fidel really did pass away two months ago and Hugo just suffered a significant cardiac event.
| 511 |
eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:52:23am |
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:53:38am |
re: #507 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I'm well... my mom now has COPD to add to her ailments (she's still in the hospital, but seems alert and well)... son pitched his first three college innings so far (missed out on his second start due to rain), did pretty good.
re: #492 vxbush
Stick to math. We need more mathematicians!
Great; I'll solve your equations and fix your computer if you'll rewire my house. Deal?
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BBev Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:53:45am |
re: #499 realwest
"They don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. They think they're unstoppable. I've yet to see evidence that they are wrong on this count."
Uh, what? (sorry, busy sharpening the points on the pitchfork and wrapping towels soaked in pine "sauce" around clubs)!
Good mornin Real and all. How is everyone today? Real can you make some extra for me?
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Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:53:58am |
re: #508 CapeCoddah
The only tea I won't ever try again (to my knowledge) is Twinings "Lapsang Souchong"
The stuff tastes like someone put a couple drops of Liquid Smoke in some hot water. No combination of sugar or cream helps.
| 515 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:54:15am |
re: #485 CapeCoddah
Well then we'll take it up with SCOTUS and see if those sententces were too harsh. Has to be after the fact though.
Just saying...........
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:54:31am |
re: #509 UncleRancher
I usually prescribe these things for insomnia.
Yes, but lately I've been reading and studying the equations for special relativity to answer some questions for one of my friends. That's made my head tilt just a little to the left lately. Compared to that, Maxwell should be a piece of cake!
| 517 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:55:00am |
re: #512 vxbush
Great; I'll solve your equations and fix your computer if you'll rewire my house. Deal?
Sure... you do know I know nothing of electrical work, right?
/I'll get my equations solved, your house will burn down.
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3 wood Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:55:10am |
Good morning all. Have I mentioned that Obama's foreign policy is a joke?
Report: Cuba, Venezuela could host Russian bombers
MOSCOW – A Russian Air Force chief said Saturday that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has offered an island as a temporary base for strategic Russian bombers, the Interfax news agency reported.
The chief of staff of Russia's long range aviation, Maj. Gen. Anatoly Zhikharev, also said Cuba could be used to base the aircraft, Interfax reported.
The Kremlin, however, said the situation was hypothetical.
"The military is speaking about technical possibilities, that's all," Alexei Pavlov, a Kremlin official, told The Associated Press. "If there will be a development of the situation, then we can comment," he said.
Zhikharev said Chavez had offered "a whole island with an airdrome, which we can use as a temporary base for strategic bombers," the agency reported. "If there is a corresponding political decision, then the use of the island ... by the Russian Air Force is possible."
Obama will make Carter look strong by comparison. Here we go.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:55:34am |
re: #514 Taqiyyotomist
The only tea I won't ever try again (to my knowledge) is Twinings "Lapsang Souchong"
The stuff tastes like someone put a couple drops of Liquid Smoke in some hot water. No combination of sugar or cream helps.
Blech.
| 520 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:55:47am |
re: #487 CapeCoddah"They would have to extract them from their respective asses first."
Why?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:55:49am |
re: #511 eon
re: #501 vxbush
I blame Zippy the Pinhead for getting me hooked on Bigelow's Constant Comment Morning Thunder is good, too.
But nobody gets my coffee away from me.
/They can pry my Maxwell House from my cold, dead hands.
cheers
eon
It is weird, I love Iced coffee, but cannot stand hot. And my great grandma, Meme, (No jokes) turned me onto constant comment when I was a little kid.
| 522 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:56:04am |
Used to work at a hoity-toity luxury condo in Boston. I had to set up tea in the Great Room every day at 3:00. We had every single tea that Twinings makes, and then some. I tried 'em all. English and Irish B'fast are my favorites. Steep it strong enough and it's expresso-strength tea!
| 523 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:56:23am |
re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT - how are ya today?
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:56:34am |
re: #517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Sure... you do know I know nothing of electrical work, right?
/I'll get my equations solved, your house will burn down.
Oh. Well that won't work!
My plans for world domination are not going well today.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:56:40am |
re: #518 3 wood
What foreign policy? Does Obama have a foreign policy? I mean independent from the Politburo?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:57:13am |
re: #515 realwest
Well then we'll take it up with SCOTUS and see if those sententces were too harsh. Has to be after the fact though.
Just saying...........
Maybe we could make them cage fight to pay for their incarceration?
| 527 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:57:31am |
re: #525 Nevergiveup
What foreign policy? Does Obama have a foreign policy? I mean independent from the Politburo?
Ask Hu.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:58:07am |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:58:18am |
re: #520 realwest
"They would have to extract them from their respective asses first."
Why?
So we could hand them those heads.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:58:24am |
re: #522 Taqiyyotomist
Used to work at a hoity-toity luxury condo in Boston. I had to set up tea in the Great Room every day at 3:00. We had every single tea that Twinings makes, and then some. I tried 'em all. English and Irish B'fast are my favorites. Steep it strong enough and it's expresso-strength tea!
Exactly! Although a nice mint tea with some shaved dark chocolate thrown in is the closest thing to heaven I've come across.
| 531 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:58:58am |
Those caught up in heavy traffic have three times the risk of having a heart attack within an hour, a German study presented at the American Heart Association's 49th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease in Florida said.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But driving in the emergency lanes on the side triple your chance of getting a ticket. So what to do? What to do?
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:59:11am |
re: #518 3 wood
Good morning all. Have I mentioned that Obama's foreign policy is a joke?
Report: Cuba, Venezuela could host Russian bombersObama will make Carter look strong by comparison. Here we go.
If the Russians don't take Hugo up on his offer, I'm sure the PRC will.
/Considering the amount of our IOUs they hold now, I'm sure they want to look after their investment. And they aren't busy trying to build the biggest air force since the USAAF of 1945 just to do a flyover of Mao's tomb on his birthday every year.
cheers
eon
| 533 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:59:24am |
re: #530 vxbush
OH, that sounds good! I want some now!
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 6:59:44am |
re: #531 Nevergiveup
Those caught up in heavy traffic have three times the risk of having a heart attack within an hour, a German study presented at the American Heart Association's 49th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease in Florida said.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But driving in the emergency lanes on the side triple your chance of getting a ticket. So what to do? What to do?
Telecommute? Drive a Hummer with a nice big gun mounted on the front?
| 535 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:00:01am |
re: #504 vxbush
What are you talking about? How can I get to work if you lazy otherwise occupied citizens don't elect me King Dear Leader?!?
| 536 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:00:30am |
re: #530 vxbush
Exactly! Although a nice mint tea with some shaved dark chocolate thrown in is the closest thing to heaven I've come across.
Have you tried the Bigelow plantation mint, aweome spearmint.
| 537 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:00:37am |
re: #533 Taqiyyotomist
OH, that sounds good! I want some now!
There's a nice tea store in town here, but I doubt I can ship it to you fast enough....
What do you think of the Stash teas? They seem to have some seriously weird combinations.
| 538 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:00:40am |
Took part in Rasmussen Poll. Shocked I was. I have never been polled before.
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eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:00:41am |
re: #531 Nevergiveup
Those caught up in heavy traffic have three times the risk of having a heart attack within an hour, a German study presented at the American Heart Association's 49th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease in Florida said.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But driving in the emergency lanes on the side triple your chance of getting a ticket. So what to do? What to do?
That's why they invented side streets, and four-wheel drive.
cheers
eon
| 540 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:01:21am |
re: #535 realwest
What are you talking about? How can I get to work if you
lazyotherwise occupied citizens don't elect meKingDear Leader?!?
Wait--we were supposed to list you as a write-in candidate for this last election? HOW COME NO ONE TOLD ME!?
| 541 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:01:30am |
re: #507 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Aw geez, LT, now you're mom has COPD too?! Prayers going up her way and yours my friend.
| 542 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:01:53am |
re: #536 CapeCoddah
Have you tried the Bigelow plantation mint, aweome spearmint.
Not that I can recall, but it sounds very nice.
| 543 |
3 wood Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:02:09am |
re: #525 Nevergiveup
What foreign policy? Does Obama have a foreign policy? I mean independent from the Politburo?
"From each according to their ability. To each according to their need.".....Oh I'm sorry, that's his domestic policy.
I think his foreign policy is to apologize to the world for our being alive and blame America first.
| 544 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:02:17am |
re: #538 Truck Monkey
Took part in Rasmussen Poll. Shocked I was. I have never been polled before.
Tell us! What did they ask?
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:03:01am |
re: #531 Nevergiveup
Those caught up in heavy traffic have three times the risk of having a heart attack within an hour, a German study presented at the American Heart Association's 49th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease in Florida said.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But driving in the emergency lanes on the side triple your chance of getting a ticket. So what to do? What to do?
This is another correlation without a direct cause-and-effect relationship. First there are a lot more people living in that urban environment where the stress is high, and almost ALL of them get caught in heavy traffic every day. I'm just sayin'
| 546 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:03:05am |
re: #531 Nevergiveup
Those caught up in heavy traffic have three times the risk of having a heart attack within an hour, a German study presented at the American Heart Association's 49th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease in Florida said.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But driving in the emergency lanes on the side triple your chance of getting a ticket. So what to do? What to do?
We are allowed to drive in the emergency/ breakdown lane here during rush hour. Another nugget of Massachusetts super wisdom. You don't want to break down anywhere around the outskirts of Boston at rush hour. A certain death sentence.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:04:10am |
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:04:48am |
re: #513 BBev
HEY! Good morning my friend - sure I'll make extra torches for ya, but I only got this one pitchfork - seems after Obama gave his last effin' speech about how great the economy is doing (you rememer that one BBev - he made it two days after telling us for weeks on end how awful the economy is doing!) they had a run on Pitchforks at the hardware store!
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Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:04:48am |
re: #537 vxbush
I've seen those, never tried. I used to get a (steepable) tea from Starbucks until they stopped carrying it, called Infusia. They had a chai that was incredible. Now I can't find it. It was heavy on the pepper and cardamom, and unlike any chai I've seen in any other coffeeshop, it was a teaBAG, not a sweetened syrup added to hot water. That stuff, to me, is not chai. If it's not either loose or in a bag, it may as well be the euqivalent of Instant Coffee.
I was on an Infusia chai kick as a courier in Boston. Kept a thermos of it on me at all times.
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3 wood Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:04:50am |
re: #532 eon
/Considering the amount of our IOUs they hold now, I'm sure they want to look after their investment. And they aren't busy trying to build the biggest air force since the USAAF of 1945 just to do a flyover of Mao's tomb on his birthday every year.cheers
eon
Which is why, I think, we've seen a decided change in Obama's rap from "catastrophe is just around the corner" to "Buy stocks, things are not as bad as they seem."
I think someone may have sat down and explained to the Messiah how the market works. As a Marxist, he would not have really been familiar with it.
| 551 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:06:37am |
re: #541 realwest
Aw geez, LT, now you're mom has COPD too?! Prayers going up her way and yours my friend.
Yes... we had a big scare last week. She's 85, has a construction set heart, starting to get mini-strokes, and could barely function for being "too tired".
They did an angiogram (sp?) and an MRI of her brain.
In the end, the heart was no worse than it was before, but they diagnosed the COPD.
| 552 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:07:50am |
re: #549 Taqiyyotomist
It was heavy on the pepper and cardamom, and unlike any chai I've seen in any other coffeeshop, it was a teaBAG, not a sweetened syrup added to hot water. That stuff, to me, is not chai. If it's not either loose or in a bag, it may as well be the euqivalent of Instant Coffee.
There's a chai at work that everyone likes, but I haven't been so in to it. But it's a powder that you add to the hot water, so yes, it's more like instant coffee. But it gets really good reviews from my coworkers.
| 553 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:08:01am |
re: #550 3 wood
The One didn't really say that things aren't as bad as they seem, just that the LONG TERM outlook was good.
Right after it gets way way worse, and they remake our system, initiate the purges, stow us all in places where work shall make us frei, and more.
Then it'll get better! Positive thoughts!
| 554 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:08:04am |
re: #550 3 wood
Which is why, I think, we've seen a decided change in Obama's rap from "catastrophe is just around the corner" to "Buy stocks, things are not as bad as they seem."
I think someone may have sat down and explained to the Messiah how the market works. As a Marxist, he would not have really been familiar with it.
"Capitalism for Dummies"?
| 555 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:08:23am |
re: #544 vxbush
Tell us! What did they ask?
How do you rate President Obama?
Is President Obama going to pull the troops out of Iraq?
Is the US and its allies winning the war on terror?
Should President Obama send troops to the southern US border?
Should the US build a fence along the Mexican border?
And then all of the other questions about Race, Age, Income, and political identification. Normally I would hang up on such automated calls but I heard Rasmussen early on and I stayed on the line.
| 556 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:08:47am |
re: #518 3 wood
Good morning my friend - yep, we've discussed that already thanks to soccerdad's comment #484 above!
(y'all got to get up pretty darned early to beat out other lizards on stories like that!)>
So how are you today - other than having a 101k instead of a 402k and worrying about the damn Russians AGAIN?!
| 557 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:10:50am |
re: #528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Same - but can't seem to wake up - see also my #541).
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:11:48am |
Got to run. It's time to go feed the livestock.
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vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:11:58am |
re: #555 Truck Monkey
How do you rate President Obama?
Is President Obama going to pull the troops out of Iraq?
Is the US and its allies winning the war on terror?
Should President Obama send troops to the southern US border?
Should the US build a fence along the Mexican border?
And then all of the other questions about Race, Age, Income, and political identification. Normally I would hang up on such automated calls but I heard Rasmussen early on and I stayed on the line.
Interesting, especially the focus on the southern border. You notice they assume that we won't remember that money has been spent on parts of a fence, although most of it is a virtual fence or a fence with no funding.
| 560 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:12:04am |
re: #538 Truck Monkey
Gah! WHEN? I get Rasmussen's daily polls 7 days a week - what was it they asked y'all and when?!
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:12:14am |
Mornin' all. Puppies are no respecters of the time honored tradition of sleeping in on Saturday!
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opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:12:32am |
Good morning all. The Chicago Tribune is reporting this morning about a doctor rebellion at the University of Chicago Medical Center over it's "Urban Initiave."
It is an effort by the tax exempt facility to steer mainly medicaid patients away from it's own ER & dump somewhwere else.
You have to read pretty far into the article before they mention that Michelle Obama lead the program in 2005. Unlike the first time the Paper reported it they now say that she "Educated" Patients as to the proper use of the ER. She was actually dumping.
The program is headed by President Obama's 'Close Friend" Dr. Eric Whitaker.
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3 wood Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:12:34am |
By the way, the inmates at HuffPo are cheering the possibility of Russian bombers patrolling US shores. And they are blaming Bush for it.
The insanity is stunning.
| 564 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:13:22am |
re: #540 vxbush
ROTFL! What did y'all miss my full page ad in the WSJ?!
| 565 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:13:37am |
re: #561 pingjockey
Mornin' all. Puppies are no respecters of the time honored tradition of sleeping in on Saturday!
But the cuteness makes up for it!
| 566 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:13:39am |
re: #561 pingjockey
Same with garbage-truck drivers! Three large dumpsters at 4:30AM.
I've grown used to it.
| 567 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:14:33am |
re: #564 realwest
ROTFL! What did y'all miss my full page ad in the WSJ?!
I don't read print! Print is dead! You didn't even consider putting an ad on Charles' site, did you?
| 568 |
eon Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:14:42am |
re: #554 vxbush
"Capitalism for Dummies"?
More like "Capitalism For Overeducated Egotistical Narcissists."
The One isn't dumb. There's a difference between dumb, clueless, and being arrogantly convinced you are incapable of error.
The One is definitely in the latter two categories of the three.
Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
| 570 |
3 wood Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:14:57am |
re: #556 realwest
Doing fine. We had a St. Patrick's Day party at our house last night (non-alcoholic). The Mrs. and I are playing all day for a St. Patrick's Day party at a local book store. Then going to a square dance tonight. Got a full schedule.
How are you and your Mom doing?
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Truck Monkey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:15:00am |
re: #560 realwest
Gah! WHEN? I get Rasmussen's daily polls 7 days a week - what was it they asked y'all and when?!
See my #555
| 573 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:16:01am |
re: #569 pingjockey
Baaah humbug on cuteness! Heh.
LOL, thats only for when they don't make it in time off of the bed!
| 574 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:16:25am |
re: #568 eon
More like "Capitalism For Overeducated Egotistical Narcissists."
The One isn't dumb. There's a difference between dumb, clueless, and being arrogantly convinced you are incapable of error.
The One is definitely in the latter two categories of the three.
Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
All true. Have a good one, eon!
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:16:48am |
re: #566 Taqiyyotomist
Yuck. We don't have that problem out here in the sticks. Waste Management doesn't start residential pickup until after the school buses are done with their morning runs.
| 576 |
monkeytime Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:16:55am |
re: #559 vxbush
Hey there - from what you said way up thread about the wall paper - have you tried spraying it with water mixed with fabric softner first? It works really well.
| 577 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:17:36am |
re: #563 3 wood Hey my friend - what are ya doing going into that neigborhood for? Don't you know that just going to HuffPoo can give you terrible, horrible diseases?!?
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:17:44am |
re: #573 CapeCoddah
"Indy" is still short enough he can't jump on the bed, yet!
| 579 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:18:09am |
re: #576 monkeytime
Hey there - from what you said way up thread about the wall paper - have you tried spraying it with water mixed with fabric softner first? It works really well.
Oh, yes. Trust me. I tried it all. Water, fabric softener, special wallpaper remover stuff, scoring, you name it: It wasn't coming down. Now it's a moot point; that bathroom has been totally remodeled, and it has a simple coat of paint in a great color.
| 580 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:18:45am |
re: #578 pingjockey
"Indy" is still short enough he can't jump on the bed, yet!
Lucky you. My hubby used to feel bad and give them a boost up when I was not looking. Course, I never made them get down, either!
| 581 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:19:09am |
re: #577 realwest
Yep, like the terrible urge to choke the living shit out of the nearest lib/socialist/marxist/Chavez fan, etc...
| 583 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:19:28am |
re: #562 opnion
Good morning Opnion - what are the doctors rebelling about - the dumping of us Medicare patients or the fact that the hospital has an actual program to dump medicare patients?
| 584 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:19:39am |
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
| 585 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:20:15am |
re: #580 CapeCoddah
Oh yes, he gets a boost from me or the better half. She gets puppy kisses, I get attempts to gnaw my hand off!
| 586 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:20:26am |
re: #577 realwest
Hey my friend - what are ya doing going into that neigborhood for? Don't you know that just going to HuffPoo can give you terrible, horrible diseases?!?
It's always just fun and games until somebody gets herpes!
| 587 |
monkeytime Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:20:36am |
re: #579 vxbush
Oh, yes. Trust me. I tried it all. Water, fabric softener, special wallpaper remover stuff, scoring, you name it: It wasn't coming down. Now it's a moot point; that bathroom has been totally remodeled, and it has a simple coat of paint in a great color.
I have no wallpaper in my house now and never will again. What a nightmare.
| 588 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:20:40am |
re: #567 vxbush
I did, but I figure y'all would vote for me anyway so I spent my limited financial resources ($12.43) on the WSJ!
| 589 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:22:00am |
re: #570 3 wood We're doing just fine - uh, I thought St.Patrick's day was March 17th, no?!
| 590 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:22:26am |
re: #588 realwest
I did, but I figure y'all would vote for me anyway so I spent my limited financial resources ($12.43) on the WSJ!
Ha! Well, next time, get someone else to do the marketing for you, m'kay? Someone with experience. It will make a world of difference!
| 591 |
Taqiyyotomist Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:22:32am |
re: #576 monkeytime
Cool! Just so happens, I have to de-wallpaper a room in an old hotel, today or Monday. I'll remember that!
| 592 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:22:51am |
re: #571 Truck Monkey I did see that, but WHEN did they poll you?
| 593 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:23:15am |
re: #582 CapeCoddah
Heinz 57. Pound puppy. Shar Pei (sp), chocolate labe, and maybe some pitbull for flavoring! We had to have our 10 yr old Golden Retriever put down, lots of tumors. We were going to wait until spring for a replacement. That lasted until the wife and the two younger boys made a couple of trips to the pound! Of course me being in total contol of the household said yes.
| 594 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:23:31am |
re: #583 realwest
Good morning Opnion - what are the doctors rebelling about - the dumping of us Medicare patients or the fact that the hospital has an actual program to dump medicare patients?
Both, they want the program ended. UofC Med Ctr is in Hyde Park, a mixed racial & income area. You have the high end like the Obama's & their circle & the very poor.
The facility is 'Not for profit" with preferential tax treatment & is expected to serve the Community.
In my personal experience with them , they are cold & arrogant
| 595 |
monkeytime Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:23:33am |
re: #591 Taqiyyotomist
Cool! Just so happens, I have to de-wallpaper a room in an old hotel, today or Monday. I'll remember that!
Good luck - I hope you have help!
| 596 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:24:35am |
re: #588 realwest
I did, but I figure y'all would vote for me anyway so I spent my limited financial resources ($12.43) on the WSJ!
You didn't have to pay the user tax?
Word on the street is that since Obama figures that only filthy capitalists and their ilk read the WSJ, he's going to slap a users fee of 97.7742% on every copy.
The customer has to figure the fee amount in his head - no paper, pencil, or calculator. Miss it and you have to pay a 25% "Dumb Capitalist" tax!
| 597 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:24:39am |
Morning Lizards from rainy Kentucky. How about those Cardnials last night?
| 598 |
monkeytime Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:25:13am |
re: #594 opnion
Both, they want the program ended. UofC Med Ctr is in Hyde Park, a mixed racial & income area. You have the high end like the Obama's & their circle & the very poor.
The facility is 'Not for profit" with preferential tax treatment & is expected to serve the Community.
In my personal experience with them , they are cold & arrogant
I'm confused - if they are cold and arrogant - why are they upset about dumping the medicaid patients? It would seem a warm and kind thing to want to keep the poor.
| 599 |
CynicalConservative Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:25:51am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
93 here.
| 600 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:25:52am |
re: #581 pingjockey
'Zactly! LOL! Good morning my friend, how are you and yours doing today?
| 601 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:26:07am |
re: #585 pingjockey
Oh yes, he gets a boost from me or the better half. She gets puppy kisses, I get attempts to gnaw my hand off!
I love puppy breath! Lucky her.
| 602 |
vxbush Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:26:38am |
Okay, the son is yelling and ready to get up. He really slept in today!
Later, everyone!
| 603 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:26:45am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
I got a 40/400. They said I was extremely conservative. Who knew?
| 604 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:28:13am |
re: #589 realwest
We're doing just fine - uh, I thought St.Patrick's day was March 17th, no?!
It is, I assure you. It is my birthday. Hubby's is tomorrow, which reminds me I have to go get him a gift and his roses.
| 605 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:28:27am |
re: #589 realwest
We're doing just fine - uh, I thought St.Patrick's day was March 17th, no?!
everybody is celebrating it this weekend..the 17th is on a tuesday
| 606 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:28:31am |
re: #589 realwest
We're doing just fine - uh, I thought St.Patrick's day was March 17th, no?!
March 17 1977 is the day I had my second heart surgery!
| 607 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:29:23am |
re: #598 monkeytime
I'm confused - if they are cold and arrogant - why are they upset about dumping the medicaid patients? It would seem a warm and kind thing to want to keep the poor.
My pejorative was referring to the Hopital Administration, Although I do know that some of the doctors are on board. It appears though that the majority oppose the piolicy
| 608 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:29:36am |
re: #593 pingjockey
Speaking of puppies..Dont y'all find it a bit strange that Obama has not got a dog yet?
| 609 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:29:59am |
re: #593 pingjockey
Heinz 57. Pound puppy. Shar Pei (sp), chocolate labe, and maybe some pitbull for flavoring! We had to have our 10 yr old Golden Retriever put down, lots of tumors. We were going to wait until spring for a replacement. That lasted until the wife and the two younger boys made a couple of trips to the pound! Of course me being in total contol of the household said yes.
LOL we know who is really in charge! Sorry about your Golden, I dread that day, I won't be able to handle it well at all.
| 610 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:30:40am |
re: #584 SteveC
152 here. Some of those questions were phrased poorly.
| 611 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:30:44am |
re: #597 KenJen
Morning Lizards from rainy Kentucky. How about those Cardnials last night?
Good Morning..Good call on the Cards the other night...
The Orange men have got to be exhausted..So I've got to go with your team to win the BE
| 612 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:30:52am |
re: #603 CapeCoddah
I got a 40/400. They said I was extremely conservative. Who knew?
You guys are making me feel like... like... like a DEMOCRAT!
*Curls up into fetal position and cries*
| 613 |
Musicmaven Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:30:54am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
I just scored a 57......I am facing at least 4 years of plain hell under the clueless, ham-handed, hypocritical, etc.etc....... administration of the BIG ZerO !
| 614 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:31:50am |
re: #608 KenJen
Speaking of puppies..Dont y'all find it a bit strange that Obama has not got a dog yet?
I believe they have a delivery date for the one they picked out. He reneged on the pound puppy promise.
| 615 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:32:16am |
re: #600 realwest
We are well. Up too damn early here in the Northwest. How's you and yours?
| 616 |
soxfan4life Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:33:02am |
re: #614 CapeCoddah
I believe they have a delivery date for the one they picked out. He reneged on the pound puppy promise.
Wouldn't want him to change his spots now would we?
| 617 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:33:13am |
re: #603 CapeCoddah
I just scored a 116; surprising, I thought I was more liberal than that.
| 618 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:34:02am |
re: #612 SteveC
You guys are making me feel like... like... like a DEMOCRAT!
*Curls up into fetal position and cries*
lol.
| 619 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:34:23am |
re: #609 CapeCoddah
You are losing part of the family. It was terrible. The new pup isn't Jasmine of course, but unconditional love fills huge holes.
| 620 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:35:05am |
re: #619 pingjockey
You are losing part of the family. It was terrible. The new pup isn't Jasmine of course, but unconditional love fills huge holes.
That it does.
| 621 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:35:29am |
re: #611 HoosierHoops
Thanks. I hope we win the Big East tonight!
| 622 |
Lincolntf Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:35:29am |
re: #611 HoosierHoops
Morning all.
The BC Eagles hung tough with Duke last night, but neither team looked all that great. My man Reggie Jackson went down with an injury early and was replaced by Biko Paris who provided some flash and excitement, otherwise Rice was cold and Singler, et al. were in charge for the bulk of the second half. Some potential upsets/bubble-moves on tap today and tomorrow, I can't wait.
| 624 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:36:47am |
re: #614 CapeCoddah
He reneged on the pound puppy promise.
Breaking promises is getting easier and easier, isn't it, Mr. President. You just broke a promise to your kids.
| 625 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:37:15am |
re: #614 CapeCoddah
I believe they have a delivery date for the one they picked out. He reneged on the pound puppy promise.
Portuguese Water Dogs do not wind up in the pound.
I am surprised though that they are trying to put together a phony rescue.
| 626 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:37:16am |
re: #623 pingjockey
It's that 'classical liberal' lining under the conservative shell...
| 627 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:37:26am |
re: #584 SteveC WOW, I'm a real knuckle dragger! I scored a 129!
| 628 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:37:47am |
re: #624 SteveC
I bet he keeps promises to dictators and leftist asshats.
| 629 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:38:34am |
re: #626 jaunte
Ah. Liberal as in the actual meaning of the word.
| 630 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:38:44am |
re: #622 Lincolntf
Morning all.
The BC Eagles hung tough with Duke last night, but neither team looked all that great. My man Reggie Jackson went down with an injury early and was replaced by Biko Paris who provided some flash and excitement, otherwise Rice was cold and Singler, et al. were in charge for the bulk of the second half. Some potential upsets/bubble-moves on tap today and tomorrow, I can't wait.
This is my favorite part of the year..I left work yesterday for a 2 hour lunch to watch the Tar Heels.. I can't wait to fill out my brackets..
| 631 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:38:57am |
re: #590 vxbush Well I woulda, but didn't want to reduce my War Chest on that!
/
| 632 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:38:59am |
re: #624 SteveC
Breaking promises is getting easier and easier, isn't it, Mr. President. You just broke a promise to your kids.
In addition to bankrupting their futures
| 633 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:15am |
Was doing portable fire extinguisher service yesterday at the local gun store. Place was full. People buying ammo, relaoding supplies. The thinking is, since they can't take the guns, yet. Obambi will tax the hell out of ammo.
| 634 |
Wishing Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:19am |
| 635 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:27am |
re: #629 pingjockey
I think testing for progressive tendencies means testing for belief in the power of the beneficial radiations of Governmentium to solve every problem. Magical thinking.
| 636 |
soxfan4life Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:32am |
re: #624 SteveC
Breaking promises is getting easier and easier, isn't it, Mr. President. You just broke a promise to your kids.
We wouldn't want him to be punished with a sense of integrity.
| 637 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:42am |
re: #614 CapeCoddah
I believe they have a delivery date for the one they picked out. He reneged on the pound puppy promise.
You have got to be kidding. That pisses me off. His promise to adopt a puppy from the pound was the only positive thing I could say about him. Go suck an egg Obama.
| 638 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:40:55am |
re: #594 opnion WTF? They are a not for profit and they want to stop service to poor, Medicare/Medicaid patients?!?
Anyone ever try to explain to them that that would probably (if it succeeded) cause them to lose that 501 C (3) charitable exemption?!
| 639 |
soxfan4life Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:42:00am |
re: #638 realwest
WTF? They are a not for profit and they want to stop service to poor, Medicare/Medicaid patients?!?
Anyone ever try to explain to them that that would probably (if it succeeded) cause them to lose that 501 C (3) charitable exemption?!
They have a friend in the Whitehouse.
| 640 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:42:34am |
re: #637 KenJen
You have got to be kidding. That pisses me off. His promise to adopt a puppy from the pound was the only positive thing I could say about him. Go suck an egg Obama.
It is what weasels do best!
| 641 |
kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:42:44am |
From MSNBC
President sheds his former reluctance to fault White House predecessor for state of economy
That's all he's ever done for Christ's sake. What tools.
On a happier note, the Russians are gonna base bombers in Cuba.
| 642 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:42:49am |
re: #630 HoosierHoops
This is my favorite part of the year..I left work yesterday for a 2 hour lunch to watch the Tar Heels.. I can't wait to fill out my brackets..
After you fill out your bracket, let's swap up Final Four picks.
| 643 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:43:11am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
99/400 Extremely Conservative. That damn libertarian streak of my ruined a perfect 0!
I disagreed with the premiss on some of their questions so took the extreme point of view on those.
| 644 |
Wishing Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:43:14am |
re: #633 pingjockey
Was doing portable fire extinguisher service yesterday at the local gun store. Place was full. People buying ammo, relaoding supplies. The thinking is, since they can't take the guns, yet. Obambi will tax the hell out of ammo.
I think there is a bill pending somewhere to put those lil numbers on EVERY cartridge...ridiculous.
| 645 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:43:46am |
re: #606 SteveC1977 SECOND heart surgery? OMG! Have you had problems with your heart since then?!
| 646 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:43:56am |
re: #644 Wishing
I think there is a bill pending somewhere to put those lil numbers on EVERY cartridge...ridiculous.
They'll have a tough time with the shotgun pellets.
| 647 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:44:31am |
re: #642 opnion
After you fill out your bracket, let's swap up Final Four picks.
Sounds like fun!
How are you doing this morning?
| 648 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:44:52am |
A doctor tells this guy that he needs heart surgery. After a long pause, the guy tries to talk his way out of it, but when the doctor says that it is the only option, he admits that's never been in the hospital for more than a night before and the thought of surgery scares him.
"Come down to the hospital Saturday and ask for Mary," the doctor says. "Mary is one of the OR nurses, she'll be glad to walk you through the operating rooms and the recovery room, and answer all your questions. Hopefully that will put your mind at ease."
So our guy goes to the hospital and Mary shows him around. he's still worried, but he understands things better and his mind is at ease. He's especially impressed by the recovery room - it is on the top floor, with a giant plate glass window that overlooks the city.
A week later, our man wakes up in the recovery room, and as promised, Mary is by his bedside. "How are you feeling?"
"I'm hurting a little, but I'll make it. I thought that I'd be able to look out over the city, but the curtain is closed."
"We closed it," Mary admits. "The building across the street is on fire, and we didn't want the patients to wake up and get the wrong idea."
| 649 |
CynicalConservative Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:44:54am |
re: #644 Wishing
I think there is a bill pending somewhere to put those lil numbers on EVERY cartridge...ridiculous.
I believe Cali is trying, no linky though.
| 650 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:45:33am |
re: #638 realwest
WTF? They are a not for profit and they want to stop service to poor, Medicare/Medicaid patients?!?
Anyone ever try to explain to them that that would probably (if it succeeded) cause them to lose that 501 C (3) charitable exemption?!
You hit the nail on the head. The ironic part is that they appear cash rich.
The facility is state of the art. Odds of them losing their tax status are not good, they are in bed with the Obama's. Chicago corruption comes to Washington.
| 651 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:45:47am |
re: #615 pingjockey
Howdy ping - wow, y'all are up early! Mom and I are doing just fine thanks - although get back to me for an update after we wake up, m'kay?!
| 652 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:47:10am |
Commentary on a bill to number ammo cartridges in CA.
[Link: www.fff.org...]
| 653 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:48:13am |
re: #645 realwest
1977 SECOND heart surgery? OMG! Have you had problems with your heart since then?!
Man, I was born with a bad heart and I've had THREE operations! But you can't keep a good lizard down, though!
| 654 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:48:21am |
re: #617 jaunte
Good morning juante! You may be more liberal than that; the questions were VERY poorly written and thinking folks would no doubt agonize over many of them.
I, OTOH, scored a 129 which is around where I thought I'd be given that most of the "yes/no" type of answers to very complex questions led me to be perhaps more hard core than I otherwise would be!
How are you doing today?
| 655 |
kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:48:25am |
Uh Oh. I scored 70. Right wing nut from Kansas.
| 656 |
Lincolntf Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:48:49am |
re: #641 kansas
They have to be kidding, right?
How hard would it be for a network to do a Nexis(?) kind of search and count how often Obama (or his aides/spokesmen) has used the word "inherited" or it's equivalent in the context of the economic crisis?
MSNBC is laughable. How are they still in business?
| 657 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:49:54am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Another beautiful sinshiny day in the valley and it's finally warming up. I expect all the remaining sneaux to be completely vanished by the end of next week and I've even heard a couple of Robins yelling their heads off in my neighbor's yard.
:D
{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today. :)
| 658 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:50:04am |
re: #650 opnion
Odds of them losing their tax status are not good, they are in bed with the Obama's.
TMI! You did that on purpose, didn't you!?!?!?!
| 659 |
kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:50:18am |
re: #656 Lincolntf
They have to be kidding, right?
How hard would it be for a network to do a Nexis(?) kind of search and count how often Obama (or his aides/spokesmen) has used the word "inherited" or it's equivalent in the context of the economic crisis?
MSNBC is laughable. How are they still in business?
Just Google Obama Blames Bush and you get 893,000 hits.
| 660 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:50:20am |
re: #656 Lincolntf
They have to be kidding, right?
How hard would it be for a network to do a Nexis(?) kind of search and count how often Obama (or his aides/spokesmen) has used the word "inherited" or it's equivalent in the context of the economic crisis?
MSNBC is laughable. How are they still in business?
I dont know how ANY of the MSM is still in business! Good Morning Linc.
| 661 |
soxfan4life Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:50:50am |
re: #655 kansas
Uh Oh. I scored 70. Right wing nut from Kansas.
I scored a 71. Living in MA kinda makes me a fish out of water.
| 662 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:50:52am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
I got a 112 -very conservative--and I was trying not to sound too conservative. Anyway the questions were rigged.
| 663 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:51:14am |
re: #657 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Another beautiful sinshiny day in the valley and it's finally warming up. I expect all the remaining sneaux to be completely vanished by the end of next week and I've even heard a couple of Robins yelling their heads off in my neighbor's yard.
:D
{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today. :)
You have ROBINS? I cant wait to spot my first one.. means spring is really here. Still mostly Cardinals.
| 664 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:51:16am |
re: #654 realwest
Hi realwest! Agreed on the quality of the questions. I scored a lot of 5's, 'yes and no.' Doing well today, it's chilly and overcast here, and I'm delaying a run up to the office to catch up on next week's assignments.
| 665 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:51:26am |
re: #657 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Another beautiful sinshiny day in the valley and it's finally warming up. I expect all the remaining sneaux to be completely vanished by the end of next week and I've even heard a couple of Robins yelling their heads off in my neighbor's yard.
:D
{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* Happy to see you today. :)
Good Morning Miss Trixie..Spring is almost here!
Hope today finds you well
| 666 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:51:38am |
re: #639 soxfan4life Yeah, I know, but it won't really matter in the end; they don't have friends in SCOTUS. Or, apparently, the IRS.
| 667 |
Lincolntf Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:51:47am |
Good Morning, Cape. The rest of you are on your own...
| 668 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:52:32am |
re: #661 soxfan4life
I scored a 71. Living in MA kinda makes me a fish out of water.
I scored a 40, living in Mass all my life has really made me a meanie!
| 669 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:53:23am |
re: #668 CapeCoddah
I scored a 40, living in Mass all my life has really made me a meanie!
At 112 they called me very conservative. At 40 what did they call you?
| 670 |
lawhawk Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:53:24am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Obama Administration continues playing games with US national security. Yesterday, they redefined enemy combatants (eliminating use of the term), basing their decisions on international law, and requiring substantial support for AQ or Taliban in order to hold terrorists (although the term terrorist is not used).
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
| 671 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:53:25am |
re: #646 jaunte Nah, Geithner has already put together a crack team of experts to figure out how to put that on pellets. I mean, it's not like he has anythng more important to do!
| 672 |
albusteve Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:53:28am |
how free are you where you live?....crunch the numbers and presto!, they have a rating system...
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]
| 673 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:54:22am |
I feel so much better! We don't have enemies trying to kill us anymore!
| 674 |
soxfan4life Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:55:08am |
re: #670 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Obama Administration continues playing games with US national security. Yesterday, they redefined enemy combatants (eliminating use of the term), basing their decisions on international law, and requiring substantial support for AQ or Taliban in order to hold terrorists (although the term terrorist is not used).
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
But at least they will like us.
| 675 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:55:45am |
re: #653 SteveC Well I reckon y'all ought to quit smoking and drinking and carrying on then!
You won't live any longer, but it'll sure feel like you did!
:)
| 676 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:55:45am |
re: #670 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Obama Administration continues playing games with US national security. Yesterday, they redefined enemy combatants (eliminating use of the term), basing their decisions on international law, and requiring substantial support for AQ or Taliban in order to hold terrorists (although the term terrorist is not used).
Unofficially termed the 'take no prisoners' policy.
| 677 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:55:51am |
re: #669 Nevergiveup
At 112 they called me very conservative. At 40 what did they call you?
Extremely conservative. I expect a knock on the door from the PC police any second! You should have seen the look on the face of the kid who was knocking on doors pitching global warming a couple of weeks ago. Hubby had to pull me from the door and lock me in the bathroom.
| 678 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:56:10am |
re: #673 JCM
I feel so much better! We don't have enemies trying to kill us anymore!
I'll write the same thing I wrote yesterday. I don't care what they are called as long as it is preceded " the family of the bereaved of ".
| 679 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:56:18am |
re: #673 JCM
I feel so much better! We don't have enemies trying to kill us anymore!
Wow, that was so easy! Wheee! I'm going to go give my unicorn a big hug!
| 680 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:56:37am |
re: #670 lawhawk
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
Oh boy. I can't wait for the Cuban Bomber Crisis!
*Warning! Maximum Sarcastic content exceeded*
| 681 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:57:37am |
re: #657 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous! Glad to hear the news but ya know if you kept Lil Miss in the house, you might hear those Robins in your backyard! LOL!
*smooches* back to you!
| 682 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:57:52am |
re: #677 CapeCoddah
Extremely conservative. I expect a knock on the door from the PC police any second! You should have seen the look on the face of the kid who was knocking on doors pitching global warming a couple of weeks ago. Hubby had to pull me from the door and lock me in the bathroom.
We get those from the local college periodically. My husband always asks them what the economic implications of their ideas are and then closes the door when they start with the "But don't you care about the planet?"
| 683 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:58:18am |
re: #671 realwest
Nah, Geithner has already put together a crack team of experts to figure out how to put that on pellets. I mean, it's not like he has anythng more important to do!
Some people don't understand that the more restrictions are put on gun ownership, the more profitable illegal gun-selling becomes to organized crime.
Why do they always end up in government jobs?
| 684 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:58:41am |
re: #658 SteveC
TMI! You did that on purpose, didn't you!?!?!?!
Yeah, I should have put that another way. As you were.
| 685 |
Lincolntf Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:58:48am |
re: #673 JCM
Now if they'd only drop the term "Recession" our economic problems would disappear, too.
Why didn't Bush think of this first?
| 686 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #682 livefreeor die
We get those from the local college periodically. My husband always asks them what the economic implications of their ideas are and then closes the door when they start with the "But don't you care about the planet?"
I just go to the door with the coyote bat. My version of Mandy's clue bat.
| 688 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:58:58am |
re: #635 jaunte
Delusional thinking. The gov't knows best. Most of the fools on Capitol Hill don't have a clue what they're doing and the msm annoints them as subject matter experts. Didja hear someone from Britains version of the Treasury tried to get in touch with someone about fiscal policy? There are NO senior directors at Treasury. None have been appointed/confirmed. Yep, this is worse than the Klintoon Kids, or Carters Keystone Kops.
| 689 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:59:39am |
Last update - 16:41 14/03/2009
Bin Laden: Israeli Gaza offensive is a 'holocaust'
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
EAT ME.
| 690 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:59:42am |
re: #687 KenJen
Somebody please clone Ronald Reagan-stat!
They seem to have got the cloning for Jimmy Carter down pat.
| 691 |
SteveC Sat, Mar 14, 2009 7:59:56am |
re: #675 realwest
Well I reckon y'all ought to quit smoking and drinking and carrying on then!
You won't live any longer, but it'll sure feel like you did!
:)
I don't drink, nor do I smoke, but I will carry on until I am carried out!
"How'd he die? His heart finally give out?"
"Something like that. I hear there was a woman involved."
| 692 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:00:17am |
re: #690 livefreeor die
They seem to have got the cloning for Jimmy Carter down pat.
Less brain cells?
| 693 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:00:18am |
re: #664 jaunte
"I'm delaying a run up to the office to catch up on next week's assignments."
Um, what? Ya mean get a head start on next weeks assignments, right (wondering how juante could possibly be behind next week's assignemens)?!
Hmmmm - maybe I AM waking up a bit!
| 694 |
albusteve Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:00:41am |
BO say we will be "post-bubbles"......hahaha!....he's a fungi
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]
| 695 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:01:34am |
re: #688 pingjockey
Last I read, only 75 of almost 400 policy positions had been filled by the new administration. Maybe a few more this week, but they're looking awfully unprepared for a two year long presidential campaign.
| 696 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:01:46am |
Here's what happens with free market capitalism over time....
In 1949, the minimum wage was $0.40 per hour, and a full-time summer job (40 hours per week for 12 weeks) would have generated $192 in total summer earnings (ignoring taxes). Using a Sears catalog for retail prices, $192 would have only purchased the following 4 items in 1949:Now contrast that with 2009. At the 2009 minimum wage of $7.25 per hour, a full-time summer job will generate about $3,500 this year, which would be enough to purchase the following list of 28 items (click to enlarge):
| 697 |
Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:02:00am |
re: #584 SteveC
Quiz: How Progressive are you?
I scored 156 (out of 400). The lowest rating they have is 160, Conservative Republicans. McCain Voters are about 185; Obama Voters are about 220.
I am trying to finish this, but I have read 5 questions that are set up on complete BS premises.
"Immigrants today are a burden...blah blah blah..."
Illegal? Absolutely.
Law Abiding, citizens who are also first generation immigrants? No.
Yet they are all PC'ing out for a completely skewed result. Crap quiz.
| 698 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:02:02am |
Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton said Friday that the Obama administration's fixation on resolving the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians as a means of achieving peace and stability in the Middle East is "bad news for Israel, and for America."
In an article published in the daily New York Post on Friday, John Bolton said that the pressure that the U.S. administration will exert in efforts to resolve the crisis, will be turned with force against Israel, being a U.S. ally.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
G-D I miss President Bush!
| 699 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:02:09am |
re: #693 realwest
I try to stay ahead by being behind on next week...
| 700 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:03:09am |
re: #670 lawhawk
Morning all, and welcome to the Cognito and Advanti "Insight into the News." I'm Cog, and to the far left of me, is Adanti.
Vroom, Vroom, Cog, and how are you doing this fine morning.
Well, let's catch up on the weekend news...
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Obama Administration continues playing games with US national security. Yesterday, they redefined enemy combatants (eliminating use of the term), basing their decisions on international law, and requiring substantial support for AQ or Taliban in order to hold terrorists (although the term terrorist is not used).
Of course Avanti, the administration may have a legal point here, since international law requires us to bend over and that it up the poop chute in regards to any terrorist groups.
You're right there Cog, and from the "Russians are coming" desk, this little piece of nostalgia...
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
Well, you know Cog, nostalgia is just a think of the past, but I think it's quaint that the Russians would be making this gesture of cooperation in this hemisphere.
And now from our science desk, abortions are intruding on quality family time in many homes...
| 701 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:03:27am |
re: #672 albusteve Well at least I'm in the top half (at #23!)!
| 702 |
Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:03:38am |
100 out of 400...
Had the questions been worded correctly I would have been close to a 3 out of 400...
| 703 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:04:42am |
re: #699 jaunte
I try to stay ahead by being behind on next week...
I was going to send you money with this letter, but I have already sealed the envelope!
//
| 704 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:04:48am |
| 705 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:05:16am |
re: #701 realwest
AND didja notice that the bluest of blue states (NY, NJ. Mass and California) are the LEAST FREE?
Nope, didn't come as a surprise to me either!
| 706 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:05:35am |
re: #617 jaunte
I just scored a 116; surprising, I thought I was more liberal than that.
I got a 111.
But I knew I wasn't more "liberal" than that.
Actually - they seem to be classifying one as "liberal" if one wants a great deal of government intrusion into private matters. I think their definitions are off base.
| 707 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:05:43am |
| 708 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:06:13am |
re: #663 CapeCoddah
You have ROBINS? I cant wait to spot my first one.. means spring is really here. Still mostly Cardinals.
I've not seen them - yet - but they are definately here and I have two pair of Cardinals who visit my courtyard all winter and put on quite a show in the birdbath in the summertime. Several Jays, Chickadees and little yellow birds also.
I love to watch them - makes my day.
Hoosier - right backatcha, darls. :D
realwest - new avatar shows my tattoos ... :D
| 709 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:06:18am |
re: #697 Oh no...Sand People!
I am trying to finish this, but I have read 5 questions that are set up on complete BS premises.
"Immigrants today are a burden...blah blah blah..."
Illegal? Absolutely.
Law Abiding, citizens who are also first generation immigrants? No.Yet they are all PC'ing out for a completely skewed result. Crap quiz.
It is a crap quiz.
but go ahead and finish it.
| 710 |
lawhawk Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:06:23am |
re: #689 Nevergiveup
Last update - 16:41 14/03/2009
Bin Laden: Israeli Gaza offensive is a 'holocaust'
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
EAT ME.
Funny, but he's a little late on that tape. A couple hundred civilians killed because they're human shields for a terrorist group that could care less if 1 million Palestinians are killed in their war against Israel is not a Holocaust. It's all part of the nihilistic death cult that the terrorists subscribe to. They care more for death than they do for life; which is why they continue to engage in the rocket war against Israel regardless of the fact that Israel simply wants to be left alone and live in peace with its neighbors. Islamists cannot let that happen because Israel's very existence is an affront to their religious beliefs.
The only folks who want to see a Holocaust are the Islamists - who want to murder the Jews in Israel - wiping them from the face of the earth.
Of course, bin Laden (or his doppelganger's visage/voice) is purposefully using Holocaust language so as to undermine Israel's reason for existence in the first place and to undermine the plight that Jews have faced for centuries - persecution at the hands of everyone else. Now that Jews have a place to call home, their spiritual home for thousands of years, the Islamists want to undermine that salient fact.
It's why they call every Israeli response against terrorism a Holocaust or massacre or genocide. It's the usurpation of the language and destroys the meaning of those very words.
| 711 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:07:41am |
re: #683 jaunte
"Why do they always end up in government jobs?"
Um, cause Welfare is too demeaning for 'em?!
| 712 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:07:50am |
In phone conversations with the leaders of Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and the Philippines on Friday, US President Barack Obama discussed his commitment to forging a new relationship with Islamic countries, among other issues.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Why, because their values are our values? EAT ME.
| 713 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:08:05am |
re: #706 reine.de.tout
Yes, the assumption behind the questions seems to be that government intervention is always progressive, and a desire for less intervention is always conservative except in the case of national security.
| 714 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:08:38am |
re: #706 reine.de.tout
I got a 111.
But I knew I wasn't more "liberal" than that.
Actually - they seem to be classifying one as "liberal" if one wants a great deal of government intrusion into private matters. I think their definitions are off base.
There was cognitive dissonance in their little quiz. First their questions what cradle to grave government intrusion, but the had problems with national security "intrusions."
| 715 |
albusteve Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:08:55am |
re: #705 realwest
AND didja notice that the bluest of blue states (NY, NJ. Mass and California) are the LEAST FREE?
Nope, didn't come as a surprise to me either!
NM is 36th....nearly in chains...course it's all donks out here
| 716 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:09:07am |
re: #707 livefreeor die
Bolton/Rove 2012
Had not thought about that combo. Palin/Romney are a bit more attractive-literally.
| 717 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:09:27am |
re: #689 Nevergiveup
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
| 718 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:10:28am |
re: #709 reine.de.tout
r.d.t.
golly had a recipe last night for the cookbook II
Ok, try this
Recipe:One fresh, unwashed Troll, checked for drugs and alcohol.
Eviscerate Troll, reserving lilyliver, pea brain and emaciated gonads (place on left)
Wax the rear quarters, and tenderize upper quarters with a clue bat.
Hoist on petard, and swing over the coals.
Roasting will cause the meat to sweat, and as it sweats, baste liberally (no pun intended)
with Mandy's Downdinger's Sauce and Marinade.
When the internal temperature reaches molten on the banstick,
Remove from fire, and chop into small pieces and discard along with reserved giblets.
You didn't want Troll anyway.Tomorrow's recipe: Skewered Blogpimps with boasted chestnuts.
| 719 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:11:09am |
re: #670 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Obama Administration continues playing games with US national security. Yesterday, they redefined enemy combatants (eliminating use of the term), basing their decisions on international law, and requiring substantial support for AQ or Taliban in order to hold terrorists (although the term terrorist is not used).
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
The more I think about this, the more I feel this will all be unnecessary. I am sure Obama will just allow the Ruskies to use Andrews Air Force Base?
| 720 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:11:28am |
Sorry for the sporadic posting. Verizon is out and about early fucking around with cables! They are down the block. Post winter maintenance!
| 721 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:11:35am |
re: #718 JCM
I saw it!
And put it in my faves to collect when we start working in earnest!
| 722 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:12:09am |
re: #720 pingjockey
Sorry for the sporadic posting. Verizon is out and about early fucking around with cables! They are down the block. Post winter maintenance!
Hey, Ping!
How's things on the dry side?
| 723 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:12:18am |
I got a 115. It stated
"this makes you VERY (their bold) conservative"
I wasted 4 minutes of my life for them to tlel me THAT !>?!?!?!
| 724 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:12:18am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
...Somewhere in Pakistan a sound tech is painstakingly stringing together Bin Laden syllables: "Hol...o..cost" ...Perfect!
| 725 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:12:29am |
re: #720 pingjockey
Sorry for the sporadic posting. Verizon is out and about early fucking around with cables! They are down the block. Post winter maintenance!
Yeah, but maybe you aughta pay your bill every once and a while ?
/
| 727 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:05am |
| 728 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:07am |
re: #700 Walter L. Newton
Good Morning Walter..Hope you are well..
Is Cog here this morning?
| 729 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:22am |
re: #721 reine.de.tout
I saw it!
And put it in my faves to collect when we start working in earnest!
Golly better deliver on the Skewered Blogpimps recipe!
;-)
| 730 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:38am |
Russian Long Range Bombers in Cuba & Venezuela?
Let me guess, Obama will trade off the Missle Shield in Eastern Europe.
Poland & the Czech Republic can just twist.
If the Russians move in to punish them Obama will just claim that he inherited the crisis & do pretty much nothing.
| 731 |
kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:52am |
re: #661 soxfan4life
Hey I got a brother in law in Connecticut who is conservative. What's that come to, two in the NE?
| 732 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:13:55am |
re: #727 reine.de.tout
Is this for real?
Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It
Yes, we discussed this the other night in the Kurthammer thread.
| 733 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:22am |
re: #720 pingjockey
Sorry for the sporadic posting. Verizon is out and about early fucking around with cables! They are down the block. Post winter maintenance!
Comcast does that here constantly. Drives me nuts.
| 734 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:27am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
Bin Laden has more lives than a cat..
| 735 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:27am |
re: #728 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Walter..Hope you are well..
Is Cog here this morning?
Nope, I hadn't seen him. I was hoping to rattle both their cages.
| 736 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:39am |
I got an 88. And I thought I was fairly moderate!
| 737 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:43am |
re: #732 Walter L. Newton
Yes, we discussed this the other night in the Kurthammer thread.
Oh, okay.
I've been visiting sporadically so didn't see the discussion.
| 738 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:14:56am |
re: #731 kansas
Hey I got a brother in law in Connecticut who is conservative. What's that come to, two in the NE?
Remember there is a Navy Base in Connecticut. That might throw your stats off a tad.
| 740 |
lawhawk Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:15:03am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
Don't know about the dead part (though it is still plausible. It shows that the AQ media machine is totally fubar because they can't do anything more than provide bad audio harping on the same themes they have for years - Israel evil and must be destroyed. US evil and must be destroyed. Must have global caliphate and Islam must be the law of the land. blah blah blah.
It's what they do. They can't diverge from that message, and it makes it easier for them to recycle their audio recordings too.
It also shows just how badly the US has hurt AQ leadership because they can't get their message out in any way other than by audio from undisclosed locations. We've been rolling up their networks, but I remain deeply concerned by the Taliban activities in the Pak frontier provinces since they're morphing into something far worse - a far more competent army than AQ was (given the way the Taliban have fought the Pakistani military to a standstill and the Pakistanis have ceded large parts of the country to Islamist rule). AQ benefits from that ongoing relationship, which undermines US efforts in the region.
| 741 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:15:31am |
re: #712 Nevergiveup
In phone conversations with the leaders of Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and the Philippines on Friday, US President Barack Obama discussed his commitment to forging a new relationship with Islamic countries, among other issues.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
I'm tellin ya, he has never gotten over his Koranic studies in Indonesia.
He may be a Christian, but he is still down with the Ummah.Why, because their values are our values? EAT ME.
| 742 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:15:47am |
re: #737 reine.de.tout
Oh, okay.
I've been visiting sporadically so didn't see the discussion.
Which, if i remember correctly, it was interesting that Kurthammer either missed this himself or stayed away from it becuase it didn't help his point.
| 743 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:16:17am |
re: #727 reine.de.tout
Is this for real?
Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It
Hopefully, the moron did not even realize it was there.
| 744 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:16:26am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
Sorry, but I have a freind who ahs been in the CIA for decades who told me that as recent as 2006 they (the CIA) confimed Bin Laden to be alive based on an audio recording from that year. There were things stated in that recording (not released to the public) that time stamled it and verified that the recording wasn't a cut and paste from past speaches
| 745 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:16:34am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
yup, Osama bin Dead.
| 746 |
CapeCoddah Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:16:56am |
re: #731 kansas
Hey I got a brother in law in Connecticut who is conservative. What's that come to, two in the NE?
ME, Hubby, and both of our kids!
| 747 |
Gort Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:17:10am |
re: #670 lawhawk
...Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
The Obama administration declares no further use of the "term long range strategic bombers" in 5... 4... 3... 2...
/Feverishly searching Amazon for the 50th ed. of 2009 Newspeak Dictionary, a new edition for every day in office.
| 750 |
Irish Rose Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:17:58am |
Good morning, lizards.
It's the weekend, time to get happy feet!
Steve Martin (yes, that one) and Earl Scruggs, picking out "Foggy Mountain Breakdown"
Click, you know you wanna.
| 751 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:18:00am |
re: #727 reine.de.tout
Is this for real?
Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It
Looking into it...
Omnibus bill Section 509 Dickey-Wicker amendment...
Might be something.
| 752 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:18:09am |
re: #744 sattv4u2
Sorry, but I have a freind who ahs been in the CIA for decades who told me that as recent as 2006 they (the CIA) confimed Bin Laden to be alive based on an audio recording from that year. There were things stated in that recording (not released to the public) that time stamled it and verified that the recording wasn't a cut and paste from past speaches
Ok, then why wasn't he at the Inauguration?
| 753 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:18:55am |
re: #744 sattv4u2
Sorry, but I have a freind who ahs been in the CIA for decades who told me that as recent as 2006 they (the CIA) confimed Bin Laden to be alive based on an audio recording from that year. There were things stated in that recording (not released to the public) that time stamled it and verified that the recording wasn't a cut and paste from past speaches
And further confirmation by Cognito places Ben Ladin in the underground complex near Denver International Airport, which is of course connected with his underground complex in pakistan.
| 754 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:19:03am |
re: #735 Walter L. Newton
Nope, I hadn't seen him. I was hoping to rattle both their cages.
oh..I ran to the store to get milk and eggs and thought he said something stupid again..We went over to the lounge the other night to chat..It went pretty quick..I didn't want the public to read what I had to tell him..
| 756 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:19:10am |
re: #752 opnion
Ok, then why wasn't he at the Inauguration?
No transportation. Pelosi had all the private gov't planes previously booked
| 757 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:19:40am |
re: #752 opnion
Ok, then why wasn't he at the Inauguration?
Maybe he was-have you ever seen Joe Biden and Osama Bin Laden in the same place? Just saying...
| 758 |
wrenchwench Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:20:04am |
re: #744 sattv4u2
There were things stated in that recording (not released to the public) that time stamled it
Well, as long as it's time stamled...that's good enough for me.
| 759 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:20:41am |
re: #753 Walter L. Newton
And further confirmation by Cognito places Ben Ladin in the underground complex near Denver International Airport, which is of course connected with his underground complex in pakistan.
I heard that Elvis is holding Bin Laden hostage at a Dunkin Donuts in Kalamazoo.
| 760 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:20:49am |
re: #758 wrenchwench
Well, as long as it's time stamled...that's good enough for me.
1st day here with the new thumbs!
| 761 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:21:15am |
re: #740 lawhawk
I've often wondered if we didn't locate him, but the intel we gathered from observing and tracking who came and went was so valuable we let him die a natural death later.
| 762 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:21:29am |
re: #756 sattv4u2
No transportation. Pelosi had all the private gov't planes previously booked
Ok, I'll buy that.
| 763 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:21:44am |
re: #751 JCM
Looking into it...
Omnibus bill Section 509 Dickey-Wicker amendment...Might be something.
Yes, I just looked back at the Krauthammer thread - didn't see this specifically (doesn't mean it isn't there, I just didn't see it)
| 764 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:21:59am |
Obama lifts vile Bush stem cell executive order, immediately replaces it with another ban two days later.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
Now Ace is no this also? What is the real story? Anyone know?
| 765 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:22:10am |
re: #755 taxfreekiller
#740
Ben Loud One does not need to be alive, the commie Democrats are a much greater danger here within.
The economic damage in the last 50 days is certainly worse.
| 766 |
KenJen Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:22:33am |
I wonder what Osama would do if Obama was captured. Oops! I mean the other way around.
| 767 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:22:49am |
re: #757 livefreeor die
Maybe he was-have you ever seen Joe Biden and Osama Bin Laden in the same place? Just saying...
Wait a minute...... Now that you mention it.
| 768 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:22:57am |
re: #727 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Yes it's for real - it's the way he says I was for it before I was against it, now that he is POTUS!
How unkind and unfair they are to point that out!
/
| 769 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:23:08am |
re: #762 opnion
Ok, I'll buy that.
Well whether you buy it or not, you and me and all the other suckers who pay our taxes are PAYING for them planes!
| 770 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:23:54am |
re: #764 Nevergiveup
Obama lifts vile Bush stem cell executive order, immediately replaces it with another ban two days later.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
Now Ace is no this also? What is the real story? Anyone know?
Walter said this was discussed in the Krauthammer thread.
| 771 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:24:03am |
re: #768 realwest
Good morning reine! Yes it's for real - it's the way he says I was for it before I was against it, now that he is POTUS!
How unkind and unfair they are to point that out!
/
Reading the bills before signing is hard.
| 772 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:24:28am |
re: #761 JCM
I've often wondered if we didn't locate him, but the intel we gathered from observing and tracking who came and went was so valuable we let him die a natural death later.
Maybe our intel is using Osama much like a bug light on your back porch, using him to attract the vermon (what Jihadists wouldn't want to meet Bin Laden?) and then whacking the vermon as they leave!
| 773 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:24:30am |
re: #708 Miss Trixie
I've not seen them - yet - but they are definately here and I have two pair of Cardinals who visit my courtyard all winter and put on quite a show in the birdbath in the summertime. Several Jays, Chickadees and little yellow birds also.
I love to watch them - makes my day.
Hoosier - right backatcha, darls. :D
realwest - new avatar shows my tattoos ... :D
Is that you in the Avatar? Foxy lady! LOL
| 774 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:25:19am |
re: #769 Nevergiveup
Well whether you buy it or not, you and me and all the other suckers who pay our taxes are PAYING for them planes!
I am happy to fly cattle car on Southwet as long as the Speaker is comfortable.
Just make sure that you get Section A.
| 775 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:25:24am |
| 776 |
yma o hyd Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:25:28am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Sun is shining - but the wind is arctic!
Has this been reported yet:
'Bin Laden' attacks Arab leaders
For once, I agree with the quotation marks used by the Beeb!
| 777 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:25:53am |
| 778 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:25:57am |
re: #763 reine.de.tout
Yes, I just looked back at the Krauthammer thread - didn't see this specifically (doesn't mean it isn't there, I just didn't see it)
I'm download the omnibus bill now.
| 779 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:26:04am |
re: #739 taxfreekiller
Morning TFK! Well we can get Specter and Collins in 2010 - when they are up for re-election; I think that will be enough for a holding action on the others.
| 781 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:26:44am |
re: #772 sattv4u2
Maybe our intel is using Osama much like a bug light on your back porch, using him to attract the vermon (what Jihadists wouldn't want to meet Bin Laden?) and then whacking the vermon as they leave!
Even better, just track a courier from OBL to the cell.
| 782 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:27:01am |
| 783 |
MJ Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:27:04am |
Jewish self-hater and well known Israel basher publishes letter in newspaper owned by well-known Jewish self-hating family and Israel-basher:
Re “Israel Stance Was Undoing of Nominee” (front page, March 12), about why Charles W. Freeman Jr. withdrew his name from consideration for a top intelligence post:How strange. This is a country where an appointee to a high government position can be on record harshly criticizing any or all policies of our own government, but not Israeli policies.
When it comes to American policies, criticism — even harsh criticism — is both standard and unremarkable. That is also how it is in Israel, which is even more open than we are about the rough-and-tumble aspects of democracy.
But criticism of Israeli policies by Americans can sink an aspirant for an appointed position or high office.
Not only that, the people who organize these campaigns do it in the dark without opening the debate to the American people. This is bad for America, bad for Israel and bad for the Jewish community.
M. J. Rosenberg
Director of Policy
Israel Policy Forum
Washington, March 12, 2009
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
At least Pinch no longer is Jewish. Rosenberg is a Kapo.
| 784 |
yesandno Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:28:03am |
re: #766 KenJen
I wonder what Osama would do if Obama was captured. Oops! I mean the other way around.
That's ok....
Everything about this administration is back assward.
| 786 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:28:41am |
| 787 |
yma o hyd Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:29:42am |
re: #753 Walter L. Newton
And further confirmation by Cognito places Ben Ladin in the underground complex near Denver International Airport, which is of course connected with his underground complex in pakistan.
See, that just proves that Cog is wrong!
Any self-respecting Lizard would have found that POS by now and delivered him up to the 72 raisins OBL so desperately wants to meet.
Hiya, {Walter}!
(Sorry for my redundant link, Lizards!)
| 788 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:31:28am |
re: #778 JCM
I'm download the omnibus bill now.
Page 280.
SEC. 509.
(a) None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—
(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or
(2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death greater than that allowed for research on fetuses in utero under 45 CFR 46.204
(b) and section 498(b) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 289g(b)).
(b) For purposes of this section, the term ‘‘human embryo or embryos’’ includes any organism, not protected as a human subject under 45 CFR 46 as of the date of the enactment of this Act, that is derived by fertilization, parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or more human gametes or human diploid cells.
| 789 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:32:19am |
re: #788 JCM
It applies only to funds in the Omnibus Bill, other funds could still be used for ESCR.
| 790 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:32:34am |
re: #740 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk!
but I remain deeply concerned by the Taliban activities in the Pak frontier provinces since they're morphing into something far worse - a far more competent army than AQ was (given the way the Taliban have fought the Pakistani military to a standstill and the Pakistanis have ceded large parts of the country to Islamist rule)
I'm not sure of that; there's NEVER been a government "in control" of the SWAT - all Tribal Warlords who, naturally enough, protect "their" territories with great ferocity. It may be that the Taliban have made a deal with some of those warloards, but the Taliban don't control SWAT any more than anyone else does.
Personally I think we oughta just out-bribe the Taliban and Al-Q AND Pakistan to take over in SWAT.
And I honestly think that those frontier provinces are the last refuge for those murdering Mofo's. Saud's, Iranians, Turks, Chinese, Indonesians and Russians won't lift a finger to help 'em.
| 791 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:32:35am |
re: #788 JCM
I'd love to see someone sneak in a section making it illegal to sign a bill without reading it.
| 792 |
karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:33:22am |
Yipeeeeee!
Hope and Change be upon you, comrades!
The glorious heroes of the Revolution will now have strategic bombing capability in Venezuela and Cuba! Glory to the Revolution!
The running dog capitalist swine will soon pay for their crimes!
And out brother revolutionaries in Iran have declared themselves a nuclear and space power today! Glory!
We must thank Comrade Ayers and Comrade Dohrn for cultivating such a fine protoge who now occupies the once impenetrable White House.
May Day celebrations will be especially glorious this year!
| 793 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:34:02am |
re: #791 livefreeor die
I'd love to see someone sneak in a section making it illegal to sign a bill without reading it.
I'm even crueler. Every appropriation needs an individual full vote in congress and Presidential signature.
9000 earmarks? 9000 bills voted on and signed.
| 794 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:34:39am |
re: #792 karmic_inquisitor
Yipeeeeee!
Hope and Change be upon you, comrades!
The glorious heroes of the Revolution will now have strategic bombing capability in Venezuela and Cuba! Glory to the Revolution!
The running dog capitalist swine will soon pay for their crimes!
And out brother revolutionaries in Iran have declared themselves a nuclear and space power today! Glory!
We must thank Comrade Ayers and Comrade Dohrn for cultivating such a fine protoge who now occupies the once impenetrable White House.
May Day celebrations will be especially glorious this year!
What are you worried about?
The One declared we have no enemies!
| 795 |
livefreeor die Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:34:53am |
re: #793 JCM
I'm even crueler. Every appropriation needs an individual full vote in congress and Presidential signature.
9000 earmarks? 9000 bills voted on and signed.
Works for me.
| 796 |
SixDegrees Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:35:28am |
Books won’t stay banned. They won’t burn. Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Well, it's a nice sentiment. But apparently, Griswold didn't live long enough to hear about the Dead Sea Scrolls and other documents related to Gnosticism found just before his death. In fact, pretty much no one had heard of Gnosticism or knew anything about it at all for over two thousand years, following a tremendous purge of writings pertaining to the belief system and it's followers. What little has come to light in recent years is fragmentary, at best, and leaves little in the way of even a fuzzy picture of what ideas the Gnostics held.
Sometimes, banning can be terrifyingly effective. Especially when the state (inseparable from the church in Gnostic times) gets involved.
| 799 |
UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:37:56am |
re: #668 CapeCoddah
I scored a 40, living in Mass all my life has really made me a meanie!
I got a zero. I think they give you 40 points for clicking on the link. .... think about it
| 800 |
Cathypop Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:38:13am |
re: #798 JCM
ROFL!
Require each bill to be read in the record... attendance is mandatory!
Now that is torture! TEE-HEE!
| 802 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:39:04am |
Now for the odd headline of the day...
Used couch for $27; cat included
The mysterious mewing in Vickie Mendenhall's home started about the time she bought a used couch for $27.After days of searching for the source of the noise, she found a very hungry calico cat living in her sofa.
Mendenhall heard a meowing sound for almost two weeks inside her home. She has cats, but knew it wasn't one of hers.
| 803 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:40:27am |
re: #744 sattv4u2
Uh, would that be the same CIA that has done such a sterling job otherwise?
Sorry - but before Tora Bora (and I mean just before Tora Bora you couldn't keep bin Laden off VIDEO Recordings with a club). Since then, just audio - and they don't need to be cut and paste phonies either - the art of voice mimicry is one which has always given serious "analysts" fits.
I'm telling ya, he's dead.
| 804 |
yma o hyd Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:40:34am |
re: #792 karmic_inquisitor
Yipeeeeee!
Hope and Change be upon you, comrades!
The glorious heroes of the Revolution will now have strategic bombing capability in Venezuela and Cuba! Glory to the Revolution!
The running dog capitalist swine will soon pay for their crimes!
And out brother revolutionaries in Iran have declared themselves a nuclear and space power today! Glory!
We must thank Comrade Ayers and Comrade Dohrn for cultivating such a fine protoge who now occupies the once impenetrable White House.
May Day celebrations will be especially glorious this year!
May Day celebrations will be brought forward to April 4th -8th, when the Dear Leader in North Korea joins the others by firing the long range test missile.
Shake in yer boots, ye capitalist running dog monkey pigs!
| 805 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:40:41am |
re: #800 Cathypop
Now that is torture! TEE-HEE!
I think that the Bill should be explained to the Full House by Maxine Waters & to the Senate by Susan Collins. Let's get some clarity.
| 806 |
opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:41:37am |
re: #803 realwest
Uh, would that be the same CIA that has done such a sterling job otherwise?
Sorry - but before Tora Bora (and I mean just before Tora Bora you couldn't keep bin Laden off VIDEO Recordings with a club). Since then, just audio - and they don't need to be cut and paste phonies either - the art of voice mimicry is one which has always given serious "analysts" fits.
I'm telling ya, he's dead.
You are wise Grasshopper.
| 807 |
SixDegrees Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:41:48am |
re: #717 realwest
Another fucking audio recording. I'm tell y'all bin Laden bought the farm in Tora Bora. He's dead, Jim.
Totally agree. Not as single date-able video has emerged since Tora Bora, just crappy quality audio recordings probably done by an Afghani Rich Little. Or one of Binny's sons.
| 808 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:42:01am |
If chief concern is
to be fair
then what becomes
of hawk and hare?
| 809 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:42:33am |
re: #804 yma o hyd
May Day celebrations will be brought forward to April 4th -8th, when the Dear Leader in North Korea joins the others by firing the long range test missile.
Shake in yer boots, ye capitalist running dog monkey pigs!
{yma}
how is the weather out your way? Is it springtime there yet.
| 810 |
kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:42:52am |
| 811 |
UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:42:54am |
re: #803 realwest
Uh, would that be the same CIA that has done such a sterling job otherwise?
Sorry - but before Tora Bora (and I mean just before Tora Bora you couldn't keep bin Laden off VIDEO Recordings with a club). Since then, just audio - and they don't need to be cut and paste phonies either - the art of voice mimicry is one which has always given serious "analysts" fits.
I'm telling ya, he's dead.
I know that, but it is convenient to keep him "alive" for political purposes.
| 812 |
realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:43:00am |
re: #761 JCM
Hey JCM - if we shot his ass up and he later died from those wounds or complications that's not a "natural" death!
| 813 |
karmic_inquisitor Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:43:28am |
Karmic Asks -
"Why share the wealth when it is easier to destroy it?"
| 814 |
JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:43:37am |
re: #804 yma o hyd
May Day celebrations will be brought forward to April 4th -8th, when the Dear Leader in North Korea joins the others by firing the long range test missile.
Shake in yer boots, ye capitalist running dog monkey pigs!
New to the prayer list..... Dear God, let the missile malfunction and impact on the review stands! Amen.
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opnion Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:44:39am |
Osama loves TV as much as Obama. If he were alive he would be taunting us, competeing for air time with BHO.
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JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:44:39am |
re: #812 realwest
Hey JCM - if we shot his ass up and he later died from those wounds or complications that's not a "natural" death!
Sure it is.... Blow up Americans, the natural thing to happen is to die of high velocity lead poisoning, nothing more natural in the world!
/;-P
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bullskin Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:44:44am |
re: #42 mardukhai
Several historians told varying accounts of an Arab army led by Amr ibn al 'Aas sacking the city in 642 after the Byzantine army was defeated at the Battle of Heliopolis, and that the commander asked the caliph Umar what to do with the library. He gave the famous answer: "They will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous." It is said that the Arabs subsequently burned the books to heat bathwater for the soldiers.
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kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:45:01am |
Anybody hear about the movie coming out on Obama? Kind of a conspiracy thing. Jones the name of the guy producing it. Is he a nut, does have something, or a little of both?
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:45:05am |
re: #771 jaunte
Yep, it is HARD - and geez, the poor guy is already EXHAUSTED. Whaddya expect? Emmanuel read it and told him it was ok!
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rightymouse Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:45:13am |
re: #803 realwest
Uh, would that be the same CIA that has done such a sterling job otherwise?
Sorry - but before Tora Bora (and I mean just before Tora Bora you couldn't keep bin Laden off VIDEO Recordings with a club). Since then, just audio - and they don't need to be cut and paste phonies either - the art of voice mimicry is one which has always given serious "analysts" fits.
I'm telling ya, he's dead.
Pushing up poppies for sure.
Otherwise...with his ego, there would be video.
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:45:27am |
re: #812 realwest
Hey JCM - if we shot his ass up and he later died from those wounds or complications that's not a "natural" death!
Lead is a natural substance. If he died from an acute attack of lead poisoning wouldn't that be a natural death? Arsenic is natural too, just sayin'
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JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:46:16am |
re: #819 realwest
Yep, it is HARD - and geez, the poor guy is already EXHAUSTED. Whaddya expect? Emmanuel read it and told him it was ok!
Organizing the WHOLE WIDE WORLD is hard, give the Organizer in Chief a break!
/not.
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yma o hyd Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:46:19am |
re: #809 HoosierHoops
{yma}
how is the weather out your way? Is it springtime there yet.
Hiya, {HH}!
Its trying to be - the sun is shining today quite powerfully. Alas, there is a dreadful, strong wind coming straight from thr icecap, so it feels like winter, even in sheltered spaces.
At least the song birds are in full nesting and courtship mode - dawn chorus is just wonderful, and in the park the song thrushes are at it until well into the late morning. You can still see them in the trees.
Oh - and we have the first celandines out!
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:46:36am |
re: #778 JCM You're downloading it? Whew. Well, see ya next week sometime!
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JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:46:59am |
re: #818 kansas
Anybody hear about the movie coming out on Obama? Kind of a conspiracy thing. Jones the name of the guy producing it. Is he a nut, does have something, or a little of both?
Alex Jones?
If it's that Jones, he's a raving lunatic.
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kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:47:00am |
What's dipshit gonna do when the Russians park bombers in Cuba?
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:47:27am |
re: #818 kansas
Anybody hear about the movie coming out on Obama? Kind of a conspiracy thing. Jones the name of the guy producing it. Is he a nut, does have something, or a little of both?
Alex Jones?
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kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:47:33am |
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albusteve Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:48:03am |
re: #826 kansas
What's dipshit gonna do when the Russians park bombers in Cuba?
go for a ride in one and have his picture taken with the crew?
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:48:36am |
re: #828 kansas
Yeah. That's him. So no cred?
He's the sonofabitch who attacked Malkin in Denver. Utter asshole.
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yma o hyd Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:48:56am |
re: #815 opnion
Osama loves TV as much as Obama. If he were alive he would be taunting us, competeing for air time with BHO.
Now this is true.
He loved wagging his finger at his audience - like all those good sheikhs/imams/islamic 'scholars' ...
Finger wagging is not so effective when nobody can see it.
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kansas Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:50:04am |
re: #830 MandyManners
He's the sonofabitch who attacked Malkin in Denver. Utter asshole.
I did not hear about that. Thanks.
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SixDegrees Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:50:35am |
Today, the Russians are once again testing the Administration by saying that they're considering basis Russian long range bombers from Cuba and Venezuela. The Russians expect Obama to roll over. So do I.
Indeed. The Russians are also once again playing in the Middle East, offering weapons and technological assistance to anyone willing to listen, which is pretty much everyone in the region. And let's not forget about Russia's recent incursion and threats in the former Eastern Bloc. Along with a renewed interest in alliances with Venezuela. And Putin's polonium poisoning of a prominent critic sent a message to Europe: we're back, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Putin is not-so-quietly reestablishing the Soviet Empire. As I've said in the past, Russia will rapidly be in control of about two-thirds of the world's oil, directly or indirectly; it will likely reach that point within the next couple of years - far too quickly for us to do anything about it, or to position ourselves so we are not so horribly dependent on foreign sources of energy.
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UncleRancher Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:50:36am |
re: #793 JCM
I'm even crueler. Every appropriation needs an individual full vote in congress and Presidential signature.
9000 earmarks? 9000 bills voted on and signed.
Upding that!
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:51:08am |
re: #805 opnion Oh, you're really cruel! Waters and Collins? OMG!
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:51:35am |
re: #826 kansas
What's dipshit gonna do when the Russians park bombers in Cuba?
Order some Cuban cigars..They will deliver
/
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:51:54am |
re: #833 kansas
I did not hear about that. Thanks.
I think she has the video at her site.
Google Alex Jones and visit his site.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:53:26am |
Charles is up..
Heading upthread
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reine.de.tout Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:53:54am |
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:54:14am |
re: #817 bullskin
Ya had me going there until this: "It is said that the Arabs subsequently burned the books to heat bathwater for the soldiers." Hot bathwater - hell any bathwater for the arab soldiers, I think not!
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realwest Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:55:33am |
re: #820 rightymouse
Hi ya righty! Yep, absolutely correct!
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JCM Sat, Mar 14, 2009 8:56:48am |
re: #842 realwest
Ya had me going there until this: "It is said that the Arabs subsequently burned the books to heat bathwater for the soldiers." Hot bathwater - hell any bathwater for the arab soldiers, I think not!
It's camouflage! If you smell them coming you'll think it's just a herd of camels.
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unclassifiable Sat, Mar 14, 2009 9:03:57am |
When I have to write long boring white papers that some folks are DEMANDING but then subsequently fail to read, I start to slip in footnotes like...
.. 10 Big green bats have stolen my brains and substituted polypropylene.
...145 Are you as bored with this crap as I am?
...236 But it won't matter when the giant meteor hits. Then all your dreamy dreams are finished! Finished I say!
I think several GOP senators need to start slipping a few of these in to the Omnibus bills to make sure the drafts are getting read.
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