It’s time for the James Randi Foundation’s “Pigasus” awards for 2008, and lo and behold — some of our favorite kooks and cranks are “honored,” including anti-vaccination airhead Jenny McCarthy and Ben Stein’s horrible creationist propaganda film “Expelled.”
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:05:12pm |
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Zimriel Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:06:08pm |
I nominate Andrew Sullivan for Gynaecologist Of The Year, for his daring expose of Trig Palin’s sooper sekrit gestation.
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midwestgak Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:06:12pm |
OT Press conference now airing re Birmington shootings. FOX
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NYCHardhat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:07:00pm |
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Gella Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:07:35pm |
OMG this is priceless, this award that i didn’t know exists, make me all excited like a little kid in a candy store :)
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:09:12pm |
re: #12 Sharmuta
McCarthy & Carey are going to be on Larry King
That should produce some real idiocy.
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Devil's Advocate Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:09:25pm |
This is hopefully my last rebuttal to the Left on YouTube…
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:11:42pm |
Ben Stein needs to go back giving his money away on stupid game shows.
Or Visine commercials. Its obvious he needs more Visine so he can see the flaws in his arguments.
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Jack Burton Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:12:06pm |
200 Republic Credits on there being a meltdown around #121.
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chicagodudewhotrades Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:12:15pm |
the press conference for binghamton is on right now. Gov. patterson just mentioned the Oakland and Alabama shootings along with today’s tragedy. He is working the anti-gun angle
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:12:46pm |
What’s sad is McCarthy was/is an advocate for awareness of autism in children (obvious because of her own child), and its too bad that she got suckered in on this huckster scheme of blaming “Big Pharma”.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:13:08pm |
Are we going to get our first meltdown over late night boner pills?
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:13:48pm |
“A lettered man” …just doesn’t mean what it used to.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:13:54pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
Are we going to get our first meltdown over late night boner pills?
What’s in your wallet?
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:14:06pm |
re: #17 chicagodudewhotrades
the press conference for binghamton is on right now. Gov. patterson just mentioned the Oakland and Alabama shootings along with today’s tragedy. He is working the anti-gun angle
Paternalism - the Democrat’s solution to everything.
Everything.
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Gella Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:15:09pm |
re: #12 Sharmuta
McCarthy & Carey are going to be on Larry King
wait him and his suspenders still has a show?
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:15:14pm |
anyone remember “Dr. Ross Dog Food is dog-gone good!” ?
never heard about his electro-magnetic beams…………
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:15:19pm |
re: #17 chicagodudewhotrades
the press conference for binghamton is on right now. Gov. patterson just mentioned the Oakland and Alabama shootings along with today’s tragedy. He is working the anti-gun angle
because, after all, guns used by criminals are ALWAYS obtained in the legal way, right?
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opnion Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:15:50pm |
If only he would have awarded a Pig to Al Gore, a truly worthy recpient.
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Mr. In get Mr. Out Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:16:13pm |
Steinbeck used a pigasus to sign his letters.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:16:30pm |
re: #29 opnion
If only he would have awarded a Pig to Al Gore, a truly worthy recpient.
Why bother when its obvious he already lies with them?
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:16:53pm |
OT: The NY shooter recently laid off from IBM.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:17:21pm |
re: #32 pink freud
OT: The NY shooter recently laid off from IBM.
uh oh, blamed on the economy, which is blamed on Republicans/Bush.
Bush caused the shootings!
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:17:54pm |
Anyone heard that Google may buy Twitter?
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opnion Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:18:06pm |
re: #31 Hengineer
Why bother when its obvious he already lies with them?
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It seems like half the time that Gore is doing his Global Warming schitck somewere, they have a snow storm. Now that is inconvenient.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:18:42pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
I heard it’s true there is a rumor to that effect……
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:18:45pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:19:01pm |
2007 — Intelligent Design promoter and professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University Michael Behe for his book The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism.
Why am I not surprised?
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:19:05pm |
re: #36 opnion
It seems like half the time that Gore is doing his Global Warming schitck somewere, they have a snow storm. Now that is inconvenient.
Next idea for the Budweiser True. commercials.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:19:12pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
Are we going to get our first meltdown over late night boner pills?
“I used my SHAM-WOW on my En-Zyte, and now my wife is clean as a whistle!”
/said geeky guy with busty babe smiling………………
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:19:25pm |
If Jenny McCarthy wins a Pigasus, will she be awarded a flying whorse?
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:19:59pm |
I can’t wait to hear McCarthy’s response.
/
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:20:37pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:21:08pm |
re: #42 pre-Boomer Marine brat
If Jenny McCarthy wins a Pigasus, will she be
awardeda flying whorse?
PIMF
heh
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:21:23pm |
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Gella Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:21:46pm |
re: #42 pre-Boomer Marine brat
If Jenny McCarthy wins a Pigasus, will she be awarded a flying whorse?
but she still won’t able to fly all that bleach and silicone will keep her down
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:21:50pm |
How about the economic-science-theories?
Spend our way to RECOVERY!
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:23:06pm |
re: #44 Ward Cleaver
I heard that today.
google will own the internet in ten years…those guys are unstoppable….the next generation will see google as lexicon for half of what they do in their daily lives…McGoogles
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:23:13pm |
OT, but related if you an empiricist and skeptic.
Posted at Rutgers -
Northern Hemisphere snow cover highest on record (eg - since 1967).
Sorry - the planet is not trapping heat at a rate faster than it radiates heat on a sustained basis. When observed data contradicts the predictions of the theory, you need a new theory. When the theory is altered to say “ignore the data that doesn’t support the theory” you no longer have a theory.
You have a religion.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:23:19pm |
re: #48 IslandLibertarian
How about the economic-science-theories?
Spend our way to RECOVERY!
Was that the meltdown NYCHardhat predicted in #1?
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:24:37pm |
OT but also somewhat related:
The main chemical in marijuana appears to aid in the destruction of brain cancer cells
Wonder if Ted’s been smoking the doob …
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:25:06pm |
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:25:23pm |
re: #51 karmic_inquisitor
OT, but related if you an empiricist and skeptic.
Posted at Rutgers -
[Link: climate.rutgers.edu…]
Northern Hemisphere snow cover highest on record (eg - since 1967).
Sorry - the planet is not trapping heat at a rate faster than it radiates heat on a sustained basis. When observed data contradicts the predictions of the theory, you need a new theory. When the theory is altered to say “ignore the data that doesn’t support the theory” you no longer have a theory.
You have a religion.
and the sun will be the devil
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:25:46pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
Heh. I like this one:
1999 — To television personality Bill Maher for endorsing a series of psychics.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:26:18pm |
Hey kids, make your own Pigasus award out of folded paper, using this video guide!
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:27:02pm |
re: #54 pink freud
OT but also somewhat related:
The main chemical in marijuana appears to aid in the destruction of brain cancer cells
Wonder if Ted’s been smoking the doob …
Wonder if it limits itself to just the cancer cells?
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Buster Bunny Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:27:13pm |
re: #14 Devil’s Advocate
Devils Advocate ..
You are spending too much time warring against these two-bit know nothings on YouTube. Get back to the focal point. The fact that you’ve irritated these guys means you have made progress. But keep rebuttals down to like .. one a week. Or you’ll end up losing the audience that craves your broadcasts.
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:27:14pm |
re: #57 Honorary Yooper
Amazing how that little paycheck made him sell out all of his “rational” ideas, isn’t it?
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:27:30pm |
re: #55 goddessoftheclassroom
GOTC!
Update to the prayer list. The foster girl on the list when to live with her grandma, and we’ve added a 7th month old girl to Casa JCM.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:27:44pm |
re: #57 Honorary Yooper
He gave an award to Nostradamus. Heh
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:28:12pm |
re: #60 kansas
I read the first line and said …well yeah …
And then I realized I had skipped right over the word cancer :-)
The main chemical in marijuana appears to aid in the destruction of brain cancer cells, offering hope for future anti-cancer therapies, researchers in Spain wrote in a study released Thursday.
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pat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:28:54pm |
Never saw the movie, but I am familiar with Ms McCarthy. This woman has not only embraced a conspiracy theory based on missing evidence, but she has endangered thousands of children, given other crackpots cover, and sadly, has made thousands of parents feel guilty and angry.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:29:16pm |
re: #9 wrenchwench
He has great eyebrows.
I question whether his eyebrows can be explained in naturalistic terms.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:29:54pm |
re: #59 Ward Cleaver
Hey kids, make your own Pigasus award out of folded paper, using this video guide!
I wish I had one of those brain killer joints to enhance that vid…pretty cool
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:30:14pm |
re: #66 pat
Never saw the movie, but I am familiar with Ms McCarthy. This woman has not only embraced a conspiracy theory based on missing evidence, but she has endangered thousands of children, given other crackpots cover, and sadly, has made thousands of parents feel guilty and angry.
…and is loving every minute of, basking in her celebrity.
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UberInfidel67 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:30:24pm |
**OT**
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If you’re not yet a member of the NRA, or if you have friends, family, or children who haven’t joined yet, this could be a once-in-a-lifetime chance to get memberships at no cost.
[Link: www.nrahq.org…]
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:31:04pm |
re: #66 pat
Never saw the movie, but I am familiar with Ms McCarthy. This woman has not only embraced a conspiracy theory based on missing evidence, but she has endangered thousands of children, given other crackpots cover, and sadly, has made thousands of parents feel guilty and angry.
You are absolutely right but folks buy this kind of crap hook line and sinker. My sister does not vaccinate her kids for all the reasons Ms. McCarthy brings up. Funny thing is her and her husband both have MS degrees. Sometimes no matter how many letters you have after your name, “you can’t fix stupid”.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:31:09pm |
Here is something that should not have happened. Astrophysicists are rethinking their theories. The same theories I have been studying for 25 years and thought I knew.
[Link: www.space.com…]
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:31:25pm |
re: #63 jcm
GOTC!
Update to the prayer list. The foster girl on the list when to live with her grandma, and we’ve added a 7th month old girl to Casa JCM.
Done—and God bless you.
By any chance do you live in Illinois?
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:31:34pm |
1996 — Sheldan Nidle who predicted the end of the world on December 17, 1996, then explained that it came, but we were all unaware of it.[
Actually came January 20, 2009. Sheldan was few years early. Awareness of the event is spreading.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:31:50pm |
re: #64 Killgore Trout
He gave an award to Nostradamus. Heh
Post-mortem. He’s also given out an award to the “Biggest Douche in the Universe” aka John Edwards the “Psychic”.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:32:10pm |
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:32:11pm |
re: #70 pink freud
…and is loving every minute of, basking in her celebrity.
the most highly valued accomplishment…regardless of the rest…extreme narcissism
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:32:43pm |
I need advice from the Lizards. The Republican committed called today and wanted to know if they could count on me renewing my $300 membership.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:33:04pm |
re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom
Done—and God bless you.
By any chance do you live in Illinois?
Nope, near Seattle, WA.
We sent one little girl to family in Chicago last summer.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:33:16pm |
re: #79 kansas
I need advice from the Lizards. The Republican committed called today and wanted to know if they could count on me renewing my $300 membership.
I’d tell them to F—- off until they grow some stones.
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Buster Bunny Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:33:30pm |
re: #79 kansas
I need advice from the Lizards. The Republican committed called today and wanted to know if they could count on me renewing my $300 membership.
Say your membership is conditional on them kicking their Creationists out of the party. It’ll save you $300 and get them thinking.
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LGoPs Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:33:46pm |
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:34:02pm |
re: #81 Jetpilot1101
I’d tell them to F—- off until they grow some stones.
I was wasting my time attempting to formulate a polite response.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:34:14pm |
re: #80 jcm
Nope, near Seattle, WA.
We sent one little girl to family in Chicago last summer.
I ask because a cousin of my mom’s, who has the same last initial as yours, is also a foster parent, and I just thought how cool it would be if that were you!
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:34:18pm |
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:34:45pm |
You guys are the greatest. Gonna go drink beer and eat Pizza with the 300 I saved.
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:34:51pm |
re: #73 BatGuano
Reminds me of many years ago when I started getting Natural History magazine. Within a few years, the experts had changed virtually all of the major things taken for granted in the first couple issues. Everything from the date of the Big Bang to the likely order of ascension leading to modern humans was “corrected”. I’m afraid to pick up an issue nowadays, lest we don’t exist anymore.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:35:44pm |
re: #87 kansas
You guys are the greatest. Gonna go drink beer and eat Pizza with the 300 I saved.
Not to dampen your night out, but you might consider directing that money to local or state candidate whom you personally endorse.
Just a thought…
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:37:41pm |
re: #89 goddessoftheclassroom
Not to dampen your night out, but you might consider directing that money to local or state candidate whom you personally endorse.
Just a thought…
I vote for pizza and beer…I love these unofficial polls
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:37:44pm |
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:37:45pm |
re: #89 goddessoftheclassroom
Not to dampen your night out, but you might consider directing that money to local or state candidate whom you personally endorse.
Just a thought…
: (
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Buster Bunny Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:38:28pm |
re: #88 Lincolntf
Science should be an ever changing landscape if we do things right. We work from observable principles and registered unknowns. And once the registered unknowns are classified .. they move across to observable principles and reset the model of observable principles. Which means we spend our time working out what we didnt know.
Aint that cool?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:38:37pm |
Crisis in Bollywood…
Bollywood producers set to strike
I can’t wait to hear what Glenn Beck makes of this.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:38:43pm |
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:39:28pm |
re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom
Or maybe split it 50-50—$150 will buy a LOT of pizza and beer!
:)
I can do that. ; )
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:39:44pm |
re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom
Or maybe split it 50-50—$150 will buy a LOT of pizza and beer!
:)
Hi goddess! hope today finds you well and happy
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Russkilitlover Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:40:15pm |
re: #79 kansas
I need advice from the Lizards. The Republican committed called today and wanted to know if they could count on me renewing my $300 membership.
I would tell them they are not getting one penny or my vote until the party loudly and publicly return to conservatism, and will do so with or without the “religious right.”
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:41:22pm |
re: #98 HoosierHoops
Hi goddess! hope today finds you well and happy
{HoosierHoops}
Meh. I have a very painful muscle spasm in my shoulder, but I’ll get over it.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:42:28pm |
re: #88 Lincolntf
Reminds me of many years ago when I started getting Natural History magazine. Within a few years, the experts had changed virtually all of the major things taken for granted in the first couple issues. Everything from the date of the Big Bang to the likely order of ascension leading to modern humans was “corrected”. I’m afraid to pick up an issue nowadays, lest we don’t exist anymore.
That’s what I love about astrophysics. When observation doesn’t match theory, theory is revised.
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:42:36pm |
re: #94 Buster Bunny
I’m with ya’.
It’s just disconcerting to think that you “know” something and base all of your subsequent analysis on that “fact”, just to find out that the base of your knowledge is way off.
I’m still pissed about Pluto, by the way.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:43:06pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
Okay, this is just weird:
Catagory 1: Scientists
[…]
1980 — Isaac Bashevis Singer, for declaring a belief in demons.
(Since when has anyone ever thought of I.B. Singer either as a scientific authority or as some sort of popularizer/spokesperson for science?)
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:43:36pm |
re: #14Devil’s Advocate
I am a subscriber of your YouTube videos. Congrats. Didn’t know they where from a fellow lizard, hang in there.
You are doing a fine job.
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jaunte Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:43:43pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
Crisis in Bollywood…
Bollywood producers set to strikeI can’t wait to hear what Glenn Beck makes of this.
Ghee, what next.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:43:43pm |
Giants cut Plaxico Burris….so what you say?
me too
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snowcrash Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:44:30pm |
Sorry for the OT, has the dentist, “nevergiveup” checked in? I’m fairly sure he has a child at Binghamton Univ. in Binghamton N.Y. I remember because of the bball brackets.
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:45:28pm |
re: #107 snowcrash
An earlier thread, I believe …spoke of having his child’s school in lockdown all day.
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Randall Gross Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:45:38pm |
re: #79 kansas
I need advice from the Lizards. The Republican committed called today and wanted to know if they could count on me renewing my $300 membership.
I now give only to specific politicians, in Kansas you can’t trust the Brownback crowd and what they might do with your money. We could read tomorrow that they are running Sam for Governor after all….
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pat Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:46:02pm |
you tube really should get rid of comments. drunken college babble becomes tiresome
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kingkenrod Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:46:04pm |
re: #73 BatGuano
Here is something that should not have happened. Astrophysicists are rethinking their theories. The same theories I have been studying for 25 years and thought I knew.
[Link: www.space.com…]
Our understanding of the nature of reality is still very limited. We don’t even know what 96% of the universe is made of (dark energy/dark matter).
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:46:28pm |
re: #108 BatGuano
Pluto is a planet, damn it!
According to some, but it was recently reclassified as a “dwarf planet”.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:46:31pm |
re: #109 albusteve
this thread is officially on life support…
We need a meltdown and I’m talking one of the full blown wackjob dowser young earth creationist variety.
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:47:17pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:47:38pm |
re: #114 Mr Secul
Doubt it, but I’ll poke around if you’re looking for a particular year/month. I’m sure I kept some of the “good ones” somewhere.
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Buster Bunny Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:47:47pm |
re: #102 Lincolntf
I’m gonna miss Saturn as a centrefold.
She was one hot planet. Couple of rings to show her age but wow .. what a planet.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:47:53pm |
re: #116 Jetpilot1101
We need a meltdown and I’m talking one of the full blown wackjob dowser young earth creationist variety.
Patience. One will come along and spew all over this nice thread. Either that, or a John Edwards fan will eviscerate me for calling him the “Biggest Douche in the Universe”.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:48:05pm |
/Does this help: The Universe was created by God in 4004 B.C. in October at 9:am?
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ConservatismNow! Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:48:14pm |
re: #113 kingkenrod
Our understanding of the nature of reality is still very limited. We don’t even know what 96% of the universe is made of (dark energy/dark matter).
It’s made of lolcats and the tears of the innocent.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:48:16pm |
re: #115 Honorary Yooper
According to some, but it was recently reclassified as a “dwarf planet”.
Planetism!
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:17pm |
re: #15 Hengineer
Ben Stein needs to go back giving his money away on stupid game shows.
Or Visine commercials. Its obvious he needs more Visine so he can see the flaws in his arguments.
Mrs. Hawk won $600 from him on that show in 2000. Then we went to Disneyland on the way home. With the exception of his seemingly irrational advocacy of the creationist agenda, I like the guy. I’m just so disappointed that an otherwise intelligent man has misfired so badly.
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:19pm |
re: #110 pink freud
I am mistaken Searched, no results on nevergiveup. We do, however, have two lizards in Binghamton, if indeed that is where nevergiveup lives.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:19pm |
re: #123 BatGuano
IIRC, it was a Thursday. (according to “Inherit the Wind)
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:25pm |
#115 Honorary Yooper
According to some, but it was recently reclassified as a “dwarf planet”.
Found on Pluto.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:35pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
Crisis in Bollywood…
Bollywood producers set to strike
But it’ll be a huge, meticulously choreographed strike performed by thousands of extras.
(Who for some reason all sing with just two voices — one male, one female.)
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Sharmuta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:53pm |
All of your weak and pathetic minds are simply incapable of conceiving the power of the Force! Your battle stations are no match!
/jedi meltdown
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:49:59pm |
re: #100 goddessoftheclassroom
{HoosierHoops}
Meh. I have a very painful muscle spasm in my shoulder, but I’ll get over it.
Kind regards my friend..
In College when i played ball i used to get these horrible cramps in the middle of the night..My muscles in my legs would just turn into a ball of pure pain..
In the middle of the night I would wake up screaming in pain and If I was with a young lady I’d be screaming at her..For Gods sakes woman grab the other end of the muscle and pull! I’d be going crazy..Those poor girls..I rarely got second dates with them…LOL
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:12pm |
Jenny, you ignorant slut!
Hello everyone, its Friday. ;)
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:31pm |
re: #123 BatGuano
/Does this help: The Universe was created by God in 4004 B.C. in October at 9:am?
That sounds like my Grand Pa,
“The Universe was created, by God.”
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:32pm |
I’ve been waiting to get to 100 comments so that I could tell y’all this.
I made up this grammar activity for my students. They have to analyze the first verse of the National Anthem, basically diagramming it and applying ALL the grammar skills I’ve taught and reviewed with them this year. They have had to read it very carefully, and they so have have learned:
1. That the first word is “O,” not “Oh,” and that there is an important difference between the two.
2. The first verse has question marks because the speaker is asking a question (and it’s not rhetorical because the word “Say” follows “O.”—the speaker wants an answer).
3. Possessive nouns function as adjectives.
I’m loving this.
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Sharmuta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:33pm |
re: #123 BatGuano
/Does this help: The Universe was created by God in 4004 B.C. in October at 9:am?
I thought it was 9:07 am. He was running late that day because of traffic.
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BignJames Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:43pm |
re: #127 pink freud
I am mistaken Searched, no results on nevergiveup. We do, however, have two lizards in Binghamton, if indeed that is where nevergiveup lives.
I thought he lived near Seattle?
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nyc redneck Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:50:53pm |
re: #107 snowcrash
Sorry for the OT, has the dentist, “nevergiveup” checked in? I’m fairly sure he has a child at Binghamton Univ. in Binghamton N.Y. I remember because of the bball brackets.
i was wondering abt. him too.
i haven’t seen him. i hope his daughter is ok.
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Buster Bunny Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:51:27pm |
re: #130 kansas
#115 Honorary Yooper
Found on Pluto.
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org…]
Earth : Mildly Harmless
Upgraded from Harmless.
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - Galactic Edition
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pink freud Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:51:33pm |
re: #138 BignJames
I am not sure. I thought so also. User RedHouseBlueState is the lizard with a child in that high school.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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kansas Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:51:37pm |
re: #132 Sharmuta
All of your weak and pathetic minds are simply incapable of conceiving the power of the Force! Your battle stations are no match!
/jedi meltdown
May the Farce be with each of you. Time for Pizza.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:51:40pm |
re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom
You are a very cool teacher!
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rawmuse Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:51:45pm |
re: #17 chicagodudewhotrades
the press conference for binghamton is on right now. Gov. patterson just mentioned the Oakland and Alabama shootings along with today’s tragedy. He is working the anti-gun angle
It was already illegal for the felon in Oakland to have any weapon, much less the two he had.
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snowcrash Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:52:00pm |
re: #110 pink freud
Thanks, I thought of him when I heard the news. What a nightmare.
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opnion Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:53:23pm |
re: #133 HoosierHoops
Kind regards my friend..
In College when i played ball i used to get these horrible cramps in the middle of the night..My muscles in my legs would just turn into a ball of pure pain..
In the middle of the night I would wake up screaming in pain and If I was with a young lady I’d be screaming at her..For Gods sakes woman grab the other end of the muscle and pull! I’d be going crazy..Those poor girls..I rarely got second dates with them…LOL
Ok , so you woke wake up screaming in bed while on a first date with a woman. Have I got that?
First date & you got her in bed! You da man!
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:53:38pm |
re: #143 pingjockey
You are a very cool teacher!
You are so kind! The kids whined at first and wanted me to “help” them with the answers. I prepared a 16-page packet that boils down the basic rules of grammar, so the only hint I will give is what page number to consult.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:54:07pm |
re: #113 kingkenrod
That’s right. I’m trying to keep up as I have been for lo these many years. The fusion of hydrogen into helium and helium into, etc., was dogma for 60 years and has now been turned upside down. It is always exciting when a new discovery is made. It keeps scientists on their toes. That is why I love astrophysicists.
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:54:08pm |
re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom
I’ve been waiting to get to 100 comments so that I could tell y’all this.
I made up this grammar activity for my students. They have to analyze the first verse of the National Anthem, basically diagramming it and applying ALL the grammar skills I’ve taught and reviewed with them this year. They have had to read it very carefully, and they so have have learned:
1. That the first word is “O,” not “Oh,” and that there is an important difference between the two.
2. The first verse has question marks because the speaker is asking a question (and it’s not rhetorical because the word “Say” follows “O.”—the speaker wants an answer).
3. Possessive nouns function as adjectives.I’m loving this.
I tend to like songs that ask questions, and that’s one of my favorites.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:55:17pm |
re: #149 goddessoftheclassroom
I like the fact that you’re using the National Anthem to teach American English.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:56:53pm |
re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom
I’ve been waiting to get to 100 comments so that I could tell y’all this.
I made up this grammar activity for my students. They have to analyze the first verse of the National Anthem, basically diagramming it and applying ALL the grammar skills I’ve taught and reviewed with them this year. They have had to read it very carefully, and they so have have learned:
1. That the first word is “O,” not “Oh,” and that there is an important difference between the two.
2. The first verse has question marks because the speaker is asking a question (and it’s not rhetorical because the word “Say” follows “O.”—the speaker wants an answer).
3. Possessive nouns function as adjectives.I’m loving this.
JCM would fail GOTC grammar class. I never got the hang of diagramming sentences.
*hangs head*
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:57:05pm |
re: #128 pingjockey
IIRC, it was a Thursday. (according to “Inherit the Wind)
Inherit the wind was merely a movie. Scientists say it was montuesthrs (in the metric system).
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:57:35pm |
re: #154 buzzsawmonkey
Teaching the kiddies “how” to think is a practice best kept under wraps. Today’s teachers are required to teach them what to think.
Kudos to Goddess for her civil disobedience.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:57:40pm |
re: #154 buzzsawmonkey
Yeah whats up with that, its gonna make for an uneven playing field when they hit the job market. ;)
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debutaunt Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:58:15pm |
re: #148 opnion
Ok , so you woke wake up screaming in bed while on a first date with a woman. Have I got that?
First date & you got her in bed! You da man!
Turns out he’s a screaming cry baby.
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Right mind left Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:58:31pm |
re: #152 wrenchwench
I tend to like songs that ask questions, and that’s one of my favorites.
Whose broad stripes? Who’s? The Who? WHAT?
I sure hope they appreciate the fabulous lesson!
It wasn’t until recently that I truly appreciated and valued the Pledge of Allegiance, to the Republic for which it stands…not democracy, theocracy or socialist state, but Republic…
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:58:40pm |
re: #157 BatGuano
That is a measurement I’m not familiar with!
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:59:47pm |
re: #146 buzzsawmonkey
For extra geographic credit, have them find the location of the Donzirly Light.
Latitude: 32:45.08 N
Longitude: 07:95.229W
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ilzito guacamolito Fri, Apr 3, 2009 2:59:47pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:00:35pm |
re: #148 opnion
Ok , so you woke wake up screaming in bed while on a first date with a woman. Have I got that?
First date & you got her in bed! You da man!
LOL
That came out wrong…But I only seemed to get a leg cramp at worst possible time..You know what I’m saying? *wink* I’m not the man
/I loved parties in college..We would talk for hours all night..made lifelong friends…We were young and the world was our oyster..
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:00:50pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
I thought it was 9:07 am. He was running late that day because of traffic.
Picky, picky, picky…
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:00:53pm |
If you thought Borat was funny, you’ve seen it. Now check out Sacha Baron Cohen’s new movie.
Looks pretty good. There’s a quick clip of the Ron Paul segment towards the end.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:02:25pm |
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:02:29pm |
re: #162 pingjockey
That is a measurement I’m not familiar with!
You must educate yourself. I can’t do it for you.
(sighs)
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:03:15pm |
re: #167 buzzsawmonkey
On that note, I just got the bill for this month’s office rent. There was a charge on there which was supposed to be five percent; the secretary had calculated it at fifty percent, so the bill was more than $500 too high.
And, of course, she didn’t notice, and it never occurred to her that the result was not what it should be.
Corrected now.
Fired?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:03:39pm |
re: #170 BatGuano
Do you know what a RCH is? It’s an engineering term.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:03:54pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
Looks pretty good. There’s a quick clip of the Ron Paul segment towards the end.
no thanks…Hollywood will just have to get by without my contribution…I know there are movie junkies galore here but I am not one of them….when I say I reject Hollywood values I practice what I preach…glossies anyone?
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:04:12pm |
re: #155 jcm
JCM would fail GOTC grammar class. I never got the hang of diagramming sentences.
*hangs head*
Ah, but I wasn’t your teacher!
It’s not diagramming with lines; it’s determining each word’s part of speech and function according to the syntax. For example, “gleaming” is a gerund, a noun ending in -ing, not a verb because it’s the object of the preposition “at.”
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BignJames Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:04:45pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:04:50pm |
re: #167 buzzsawmonkey
On that note, I just got the bill for this month’s office rent. There was a charge on there which was supposed to be five percent; the secretary had calculated it at fifty percent, so the bill was more than $500 too high.
And, of course, she didn’t notice, and it never occurred to her that the result was not what it should be.
Corrected now.
Buzz..A smart lizard could calculate your office rent by that little info…
/
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:05:50pm |
re: #161 Right mind left
Whose broad stripes? Who’s? The Who? WHAT?
I sure hope they appreciate the fabulous lesson!
It wasn’t until recently that I truly appreciated and valued the Pledge of Allegiance, to the Republic for which it stands…not democracy, theocracy or socialist state, but Republic…
Yep, they identified all the pronouns and what types they were yesterday. Next weeks they’ll identify the kinds of dependent clauses.
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Pilots Wife Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:06:03pm |
re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom
My daughter is privileged to have a fabulous Literature teacher at the
moment (she’s a 9th grader). She has always loved to read, but LANGUAGE has come alive for her with this teacher. BTW-she goes to a STEM (science, tech, engineering, math) school, so the great Language Arts teacher has been a wonderful bonus.
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opnion Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:06:28pm |
re: #165 HoosierHoops
LOL
That came out wrong…But I only seemed to get a leg cramp at worst possible time..You know what I’m saying? *wink* I’m not the man
/I loved parties in college..We would talk for hours all night..made lifelong friends…We were young and the world was our oyster..
My friend , I actually was complimenting you. I know that it did not come out the way that you meat it, but first dates huh?
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Russkilitlover Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:06:56pm |
re: #174 goddessoftheclassroom
Ah, but I wasn’t your teacher!
It’s not diagramming with lines; it’s determining each word’s part of speech and function according to the syntax. For example, “gleaming” is a gerund, a noun ending in -ing, not a verb because it’s the object of the preposition “at.”
That stuff’s so cool! I used to love diagramming sentences; now I just enjoy nitpicking my co-workers’ poor grammer and spelling.
However, I don’t know the distinction between “O” and “Oh,” will you please enlighten?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:07:08pm |
re: #175 BignJames
It’s for very very very small measurements, less than .003 of an inch. The name has absolutely nothing to do with any standard unit of measurement and is covered by a womans underwear!
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:08:16pm |
re: #178 Pilots Wife
My daughter is privileged to have a fabulous Literature teacher at the
moment (she’s a 9th grader). She has always loved to read, but LANGUAGE has come alive for her with this teacher. BTW-she goes to a STEM (science, tech, engineering, math) school, so the great Language Arts teacher has been a wonderful bonus.
That’s wonderful. ALL teachers should do that.
BTW, I could never had made it at a STEM school—I’m strictly a humanities person, although I did love chemistry!
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BignJames Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:08:26pm |
re: #181 pingjockey
It’s for very very very small measurements, less than .003 of an inch. The name has absolutely nothing to do with any standard unit of measurement and is covered by a womans underwear!
got it…..won’t repeat it
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:08:53pm |
re: #180 Russkilitlover
That stuff’s so cool! I used to love diagramming sentences; now I just enjoy nitpicking my co-workers’ poor grammer and spelling.
However, I don’t know the distinction between “O” and “Oh,” will you please enlighten?
One is a letter of the alphabet, the other is a misspelling of the Hydroxide ion.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:09:15pm |
re: #172 pingjockey
The one I’m familiar with is not reproducible on LGF.
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Russkilitlover Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:09:37pm |
re: #185 CyanSnowHawk
One is a letter of the alphabet, the other is a misspelling of the Hydroxide ion.
Oh. Or is that O?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:09:39pm |
re: #183 BignJames
Yep. The middle word is reserved for Jane Fonda, Rosie Odonell, those types of idjits.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:10:03pm |
re: #181 pingjockey
It’s for very very very small measurements, less than .003 of an inch. The name has absolutely nothing to do with any standard unit of measurement and is covered by a womans underwear!
3 mils? That’s friggin’ huge!
Silicon 85nM process. ;-)
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:10:05pm |
re: #172 pingjockey
Do you know what a RCH is? It’s an engineering term.
It’s similar to the WAG, right?
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:10:46pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:10:56pm |
re: #189 pingjockey
Yep. The middle word is reserved for Jane Fonda, Rosie Odonell, those types of idjits.
I thought Hanoi Jane was CTB.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:11:12pm |
re: #190 jcm
Batshit! Try to hold .002 true position when machining parts out of stainless steel.
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CynicalConservative Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:11:20pm |
re: #180 Russkilitlover
That stuff’s so cool! I used to love diagramming sentences; now I just enjoy nitpicking my co-workers’ poor grammer and spelling.
However, I don’t know the distinction between “O” and “Oh,” will you please enlighten?
One is shorthand for our current president, the other is the frequent expression heard after he opens his mouth or does something to further destroy our country.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:11:51pm |
re: #180 Russkilitlover
That stuff’s so cool! I used to love diagramming sentences; now I just enjoy nitpicking my co-workers’ poor grammer and spelling.
However, I don’t know the distinction between “O” and “Oh,” will you please enlighten?
I’d be delighted to!
“O” is called the vocative because it “calls” the reader’s attention. It’s most often used in poetic language.
“Oh” is a simple exclamation that expresses the speaker’s emotion.
It drives me batty to see the National Anthem with “Oh” instead of “O” because the WHOLE POINT of the first verse is the speaker’s asking the reader whether he or she can still see the flag.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:11:53pm |
re: #191 BatGuano
Same family. A RCH is more accurate than a WAG.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:11:57pm |
re: #174 goddessoftheclassroom
For example, “gleaming” is a gerund, a noun ending in -ing, not a verb because it’s the object of the preposition “at.”
ok, not trying to correct you.my grammar skills are not very good, but isn’t the object of the preposition “at” the word “twilights”?
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:12:07pm |
re: #195 pingjockey
Batshit! Try to hold .002 true position when machining parts out of stainless steel.
We have a Tool Maker here?
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rawmuse Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:12:37pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
Oh, that looks frikkin’ hysterical! (loved “Borat”)
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:12:44pm |
re: #194 CyanSnowHawk
That too. I usually include the c word though.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:13:13pm |
re: #201 DEZes
Was QC/QA for a aerospace outfit for 8 years.
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BignJames Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:13:16pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:13:29pm |
re: #179 opnion
My friend , I actually was complimenting you. I know that it did not come out the way that you meat it, but first dates huh?
LOL
I look forward to a thread by Charles someday..
Favorite College Stories..I’ll bet the stories would have Lizards falling out of their chairs laughing…
/I got a few stories
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:13:46pm |
re: #195 pingjockey
Batshit! Try to hold .002 true position when machining parts out of stainless steel.
LOL! I usually work on PCBs not the silicon, 2 mil tolerance there. Unless I go with special processes.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:27pm |
What happens when you make fun of Obama’s malfunctioning teleprompter?
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:29pm |
re: #206 pingjockey
Was QC/QA for a aerospace outfit for 8 years.
Ive been a Tool and die maker for over 30 years now.
Thats enough shop talk. ;)
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:36pm |
re: #179 opnion
My friend , I actually was complimenting you. I know that it did not come out the way that you meat it, but first dates huh?
Hoosier was meating someone? Who?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:43pm |
re: #209 jcm
You get 2 thou for PCBs? Is that for component placement?
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:45pm |
re: #200 buzzsawmonkey
No, you couldn’t. This was an add-on, and the amounts of the add-ons change every month. You pay a percentage which gets added to the base rent.
mmm.so you are saying we need one more number?
Kind regards tonight Buzz
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:46pm |
re: #206 pingjockey
Was QC/QA for a aerospace outfit for 8 years.
So your familiar with tolerances? :)
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Russkilitlover Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:14:55pm |
re: #197 goddessoftheclassroom
I’d be delighted to!
“O” is called the vocative because it “calls” the reader’s attention. It’s most often used in poetic language.
“Oh” is a simple exclamation that expresses the speaker’s emotion.
It drives me batty to see the National Anthem with “Oh” instead of “O” because the WHOLE POINT of the first verse is the speaker’s asking the reader whether he or she can still see the flag.
So would these be correct usages?
1. O why is Obama such an idiot?
2. Oh no, our idiot President is talking again and the DOW is tanking.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:15:12pm |
re: #196 CynicalConservative
One is shorthand for our current president, the other is the frequent expression heard after he opens his mouth or does something to further destroy our country.
No, shorthand for B. Hussein is the numeral 0 not the upper case letter O.
It’s symbolic of his struggle against reality.
/
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:15:12pm |
re: #199 IslandLibertarian
For example, “gleaming” is a gerund, a noun ending in -ing, not a verb because it’s the object of the preposition “at.”
ok, not trying to correct you.my grammar skills are not very good, but isn’t the object of the preposition “at” the word “twilights”?
No. The line is
“…at the twilight’s last gleaming?”
“twilight’s” is a possessive noun, which functions as an adjective, modifying “gleaming.”
“last” is also an adjective, modifying “gleaming.”
“gleaming” is the object of the preposition “at” because it answers the question what?
At what?
At the twilight’s last gleaming.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:15:51pm |
re: #216 Russkilitlover
So would these be correct usages?
1. O why is Obama such an idiot?
2. Oh no, our idiot President is talking again and the DOW is tanking.
#2
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:16:18pm |
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:16:26pm |
re: #215 BatGuano
Yep. Except I have NO tolerance for mad mullahs, commies, fellow travelers, anarchists, leftists, tree huggers, fish huggers, etc…
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yochanan Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:16:45pm |
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
only ten years for treason. what gives?
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Mike in Georgia Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:16:48pm |
re: #215 BatGuano
Some of the shuttle stuff was .0002
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:16:54pm |
re: #216 Russkilitlover
So would these be correct usages?
1. O why is Obama such an idiot?
2. Oh no, our idiot President is talking again and the DOW is tanking.
Very close! Usually the “O” has to “call” a noun or pronoun, so it would be better to write:
1. O Lord, why is Obama such an idiot?
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:18:24pm |
re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom
I made up this grammar activity for my students. They have to analyze the first verse of the National Anthem, basically diagramming it and applying ALL the grammar skills I’ve taught and reviewed with them this year.
1. That the first word is “O,” not “Oh,” and that there is an important difference between the two.
While the official spelling is indeed “O” because that’s what Francis Scott Key happened to use, in this context wouldn’t “Oh” also be legitimate?
The “O” spelling is mandatory, or at least customary, when it’s used in English translations to represent the vocative case from other languages. (E.g., Pie Iesu Domine should be translated “O Faithful Lord Jesus,” and not “Oh, Faithful Lord Jesus,” because all three words are in the Latin vocative.) But I’m not sure whether Key intended the vocative or not.
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:18:28pm |
re: #223 yochanan
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
only ten years for treason. what gives?
Isn’t Hassan Abujihaad telling already the whole story?
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:19:05pm |
re: #223 yochanan
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
only ten years for treason. what gives?
treason is a misdemeanor now…
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Russkilitlover Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:19:06pm |
re: #225 goddessoftheclassroom
Very close! Usually the “O” has to “call” a noun or pronoun, so it would be better to write:
1. O Lord, why is Obama such an idiot?
Got it! LOVE IT!
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:19:30pm |
re: #227 Throbert McGee
While the official spelling is indeed “O” because that’s what Francis Scott Key happened to use, in this context wouldn’t “Oh” also be legitimate?
The “O” spelling is mandatory, or at least customary, when it’s used in English translations to represent the vocative case from other languages. (E.g., Pie Iesu Domine should be translated “O Faithful Lord Jesus,” and not “Oh, Faithful Lord Jesus,” because all three words are in the Latin vocative.) But I’m not sure whether Key intended the vocative or not.
I’m sure he did.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:19:46pm |
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:20:41pm |
re: #218 goddessoftheclassroom
No. The line is
“…at the twilight’s last gleaming?”
“twilight’s” is a possessive noun, which functions as an adjective, modifying “gleaming.”
“last” is also an adjective, modifying “gleaming.”
“gleaming” is the object of the preposition “at” because it answers the question what?
At what?
At the twilight’s last gleaming.
Wow. I haven’t had an English lecture like that since my sophmore year in high school. :)
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:20:54pm |
re: #218 goddessoftheclassroom
sheesh……I saw that right after I posted, but still thought “twilight” was a noun…..good thing I draw for a living……….
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:21:38pm |
re: #233 DEZes
Standard bearing tolerance.
wait…are you talking polar or panda?…makes a difference you know
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:21:41pm |
re: #235 IslandLibertarian
sheesh……I saw that right after I posted, but still thought “twilight” was a noun…..good thing I draw for a living……….
What do you draw?
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:22:16pm |
re: #221 DEZes
And I hope it finds you well.
Oh look, a beer.
Just poured myself a tumbler of Jameson’s.
Hi DEZes, how are you tonight?
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Mike in Georgia Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:22:21pm |
re: #233 DEZes
Yup, amazing what a good grinder will do. We had to hold those
tolerances on a standard mill and lathe.(not NC)
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:22:31pm |
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:22:36pm |
re: #224 Mike in Georgia
Some of the shuttle stuff was .0002
I know. Yet NASA still launches in January! Apollo1 (not a launch but a badly engineered test), Challenger,Columbia all had their origins in January.
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opnion Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:22:59pm |
re: #208 HoosierHoops
LOL
I look forward to a thread by Charles someday..
Favorite College Stories..I’ll bet the stories would have Lizards falling out of their chairs laughing…
/I got a few stories
Yeah we all have them. My greatest fear was that somebody like I was would walk up my driveway to take my daughterf on a date.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:23:04pm |
re: #238 callahan23
Just poured myself a tumbler of Jameson’s.
Hi DEZes, how are you tonight?
Isn’t that Irish whiskey?
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:23:13pm |
re: #213 pingjockey
You get 2 thou for PCBs? Is that for component placement?
Drill and routing. Try not to push the limits that much. Typical trace width we use on a PCB is 10mils, with 10mil clearance.
We have a Wafer Level Chip Scale package with 10mil pitch, inside that pitch I’ve got to places traces and via holes. That starts to push it.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:23:25pm |
re: #236 albusteve
wait…are you talking polar or panda?…makes a difference you know
Panda, for lateral, Polar for circumference.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:23:26pm |
re: #237 DEZes
What do you draw?
architectural and engineering drawings……….and as little attention as possible…………
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BignJames Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:23:57pm |
re: #241 BatGuano
I know. Yet NASA still launches in January! Apollo1 (not a launch but a badly engineered test), Challenger,Columbia all had their origins in January.
Built by the lowest bidder.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:24:00pm |
re: #235 IslandLibertarian
sheesh……I saw that right after I posted, but still thought “twilight” was a noun…..good thing I draw for a living……….
The tricky thing is that it IS a noun, but possessives function as adjectives. English teacher even argue whether to call my, your, our, etc. possessive pronouns or possessive adjectives (I’m in the possessive pronoun camp; we abbreviate them “PP,” which always prompts giggling among my 9th graders, especially the boys).
Little known fact: first names (when used with last names) are actually adjectives, identifying which member of the family you are.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:24:01pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:24:01pm |
Apparently the worst of the numbers coming out of Binghamton were correct. This is the latest story I’ve seen.
Shooting
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HugoChavez Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:24:28pm |
I know this may get me banned, but look at what’s on the shirt of the character on the far right in this cartoon.
Dead ringer?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:24:49pm |
re: #244 jcm
Did you see my reply to your snow? Got stuck in a foot of MANBEARPIG shit up at Lake Wenatchee. Goofy damn weather.
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:25:05pm |
re: #243 HoosierHoops
Isn’t that Irish whiskey?
Yup. ‘xactly. From the green island and smooth as silk. :-)
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:25:52pm |
re: #250 goddessoftheclassroom
If I could afford to, I’d hire you as a tutor.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:26:08pm |
re: #238 callahan23
Just poured myself a tumbler of Jameson’s.
Hi DEZes, how are you tonight?
Happy as I can be, thanks.
The cap is still on my 1st beer, I am trying to open it with my Lazer beam eyes so I can claim a prize from Randi. ;)
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:26:16pm |
re: #242 opnion
Yeah we all have them. My greatest fear was that somebody like I was would walk up my driveway to take my daughterf on a date.
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yochanan Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:26:33pm |
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
could someone put this up in the links thingie for some reason I can’t do it.
thank you my lizards
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:26:52pm |
re: #246 IslandLibertarian
architectural and engineering drawings……….and as little attention as possible…………
LOL. thays an upding.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:27:39pm |
OT, FNC running a story about the Israeli atrocities in Gaza. Anti-Arab graffiti, t-shirts, etc…What the fuck do the msm and other asshats expect?
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:28:03pm |
re: #174 goddessoftheclassroom
Ah, but I wasn’t your teacher!
It’s not diagramming with lines; it’s determining each word’s part of speech and function according to the syntax. For example, “gleaming” is a gerund, a noun ending in -ing, not a verb because it’s the object of the preposition “at.”
Note that answers are different for both “streaming” and “bursting,” however!
If you really want to give your students a headache, ask your students to identify the function of “swimming” in the following two sentences:
The photographer took a picture of the swimming pool.
The photographer took a picture of the swimming woman.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:28:33pm |
re: #259 DEZes
Happy as I can be, thanks.
The cap is still on my 1st beer, I am trying to open it with my Lazer beam eyes so I can claim a prize from Randi. ;)
Hi..My name is the Hoopster..I’ll be serving you tonight..
Can I get you a drink and appetizer tonight?
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:29:07pm |
re: #239 Mike in Georgia
Yup, amazing what a good grinder will do. We had to hold those
tolerances on a standard mill and lathe.(not NC)
ohhh i love meatball grinders—im hungry now.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:29:28pm |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
Hi..My name is the Hoopster..I’ll be serving you tonight..
Can I get you a drink and appetizer tonight?
Yeah, Ill have a shot of that redhead looking at me.
You da man. ;)
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:29:53pm |
re: #263 pingjockey
OT, FNC running a story about the Israeli atrocities in Gaza. Anti-Arab graffiti, t-shirts, etc…What the fuck do the msm and other asshats expect?
OMG, graffiti! OMG, t-shirts! WAR CRIMES!
Axe murder of children—it’s the Occ-yoo-PAY-shun!
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:30:16pm |
re: #255 pingjockey
Did you see my reply to your snow? Got stuck in a foot of MANBEARPIG shit up at Lake Wenatchee. Goofy damn weather.
And you with no studs (by law). I am soooo ready for some global warming.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:30:46pm |
re: #264 Throbert McGee
“The photographer took a picture of the swimming woman.”
And then got slapped around by her jealous boyfriend…..
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:31:10pm |
re: #267 mikeymom
re: #239 Mike in GeorgiaYup, amazing what a good grinder will do. We had to hold those
tolerances on a standard mill and lathe.(not NC)
ohhh i love meatball grinders—im hungry now.
You’re not the mom to Mike in Georgia, are you?
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:31:31pm |
OT again, the head of the NY Slimes compares saving the slimes to the genocide in Darfur.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:31:55pm |
re: #264 Throbert McGee
Note that answers are different for both “streaming” and “bursting,” however!
If you really want to give your students a headache, ask your students to identify the function of “swimming” in the following two sentences:
The photographer took a picture of the swimming pool.
The photographer took a picture of the swimming woman.
Of course! The former is a verb and the latter participle—they’re getting to that next week, too.
I like your “swimming” riddle. I’m going to start class with that on Monday!
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:32:10pm |
re: #272 wrenchwench
You’re not the mom to Mike in Georgia, are you?
nah—my mike is my avatar—my 20 lb maine coon cat!
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:32:40pm |
re: #269 Alouette
Young troops, spraying graffiti, wearing obnoxious t-shirts….Oh, the humanity!
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:32:58pm |
re: #264 Throbert McGee
Note that answers are different for both “streaming” and “bursting,” however!
If you really want to give your students a headache, ask your students to identify the function of “swimming” in the following two sentences:
The photographer took a picture of the swimming pool.
The photographer took a picture of the swimming woman.
Adjectives, both.
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:33:29pm |
re: #275 mikeymom
nah—my mike is my avatar—my 20 lb maine coon cat!
I bet he shares your meatball grinders.
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:33:46pm |
re: #273 pingjockey
OT again, the head of the NY Slimes compares saving the slimes to the genocide in Darfur.
Read that. Also, Michelle Obama is the Goddess Diana.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:33:54pm |
re: #270 jcm
The passes are going to be a mess for a while. Wet heavy snow on top of the old stuff. Avalanche control is going to be busy.
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rawmuse Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:32pm |
re: #274 goddessoftheclassroom
OK, what is the distinction between “O’ and “Oh”
I’m dyin’ here…
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:40pm |
Shameless plug for my employer.
B2 Stealth Bomber themed chopper “Spirit of Innovation” to be featured on TLC on Apr. 9th Season Premiere of American Chopper.
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yochanan Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:41pm |
re: #269 Alouette
i have printed anti pali propaganda, graffiti and tee shirts
does that make me guilty of war crimes?
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:42pm |
re: #275 mikeymom
nah—my mike is my avatar—my 20 lb maine coon cat!
Looks like a wizened old critter.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:44pm |
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:34:52pm |
re: #281 BatGuano
Yeah, and I’m the Emperor of the Known Universe. Sheesh.
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:35:17pm |
re: #277 Lincolntf
He’s a handsome beast.
not really a good pix of him but thx—he’s 14 1/2-getting very vocal in old age—tries to talk to dad and i all day—and i understand him! esp after a few manhattans, like now!
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:35:44pm |
re: #259 DEZes
Happy as I can be, thanks.
The cap is still on my 1st beer, I am trying to open it with my Lazer beam eyes so I can claim a prize from Randi. ;)
Good luck with that. ;-)
Had to cool my emotions after reading the ‘Iran’s Manhattan Project’ thread. The world is a friggin’ frightening place sometimes. Israel you shine the light of reason and freedom for us.
Temper readings approaching nominal again.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:35:51pm |
re: #278 MandyManners
Adjectives, both.
Correct, but the second “swimming” is a participle (what the woman is doing). The first “swimming” is actually more like a gerund because it’s what the pool is for. The pool itself it not doing the backstroke.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:35:55pm |
re: #286 yochanan
According to the Palis and the Useless Nitwits, yes.
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:36:16pm |
re: #280 wrenchwench
I bet he shares your meatball grinders.
no-every night when we eat, he gets 3 boiled shrimp.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:36:49pm |
GOTC, don’t forget the old standby:
Time flies like an arrow.
Fruit flies like a banana.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:16pm |
Another good “trick question” — in the following sentence, traditional grammar prefers “whom,” not “who”:
“The answer depends on whom you ask.”
But why is “whom” the preferred form?
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:18pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:18pm |
re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom
Correct, but the second “swimming” is a participle (what the woman is doing). The first “swimming” is actually more like a gerund because it’s what the pool is for. The pool itself it not doing the backstroke.
So, would I get half credit?
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:19pm |
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:26pm |
re: #290 mikeymom
not really a good pix of him but thx—he’s 14 1/2-getting very vocal in old age—tries to talk to dad and i all day—and i understand him! esp after a few manhattans, like now!
He drinks manhattens?
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WhiteRasta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:37:32pm |
re: #286 yochanan
I’d like to see a t shirt with the famous turbaned bomber, mohammed on it.
The caption should read: Mohammed. The world’s first terrorist.
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:06pm |
re: #291 callahan23
Good luck with that. ;-)
Had to cool my emotions after reading the ‘Iran’s Manhattan Project’ thread. The world is a friggin’ frightening place sometimes. Israel you shine the light of reason and freedom for us.
Temper readings approaching nominal again.
re: #291 callahan23
maybe this will help
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:06pm |
re: #283 pingjockey
The passes are going to be a mess for a while. Wet heavy snow on top of the old stuff. Avalanche control is going to be busy.
Those avalanche guys have fun. Explosives and a 105mm recoilless!
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HugoChavez Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:16pm |
re: #302 WhiteRasta
I’d like to see a t shirt with the famous turbaned bomber, mohammed on it.
The caption should read: Mohammed. The world’s first terrorist.
Correction: Mohammed. The Third World’s Terrorist.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:40pm |
re: #296 Throbert McGee
Another good “trick question” — in the following sentence, traditional grammar prefers “whom,” not “who”:
“The answer depends on whom you ask.”
But why is “whom” the preferred form?
My kids can answer that! They know the difference between the nominative and objective cases.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:55pm |
re: #296 Throbert McGee
Another good “trick question” — in the following sentence, traditional grammar prefers “whom,” not “who”:
“The answer depends on whom you ask.”
But why is “whom” the preferred form?
It’s a conjunctive pronoun, direct object of the verb “ask”.
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:38:57pm |
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:39:22pm |
re: #304 jcm
Oh yeah. What did you do today? Shot the shit out of a mountain!
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:39:49pm |
re: #306 goddessoftheclassroom
My kids can answer that! They know the difference between the nominative and objective cases.
* curled up in the corner sucking thumb*
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:39:51pm |
re: #299 MandyManners
So, would I get half credit?
No, I’d help you articulate the difference by asking follow-up questions so that you could figure it out.
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:39:54pm |
BTW—mikeydad was also laid off from IBM last week—no shooting rampage for him—we are celebrating!
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:41:02pm |
re: #311 goddessoftheclassroom
No, I’d help you articulate the difference by asking follow-up questions so that you could figure it out.
100 per cent!
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rawmuse Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:41:26pm |
re: #312 mikeymom
I know the feeling. The only corporate job I ever had, I hated it, everything but the steady $. When we got laid off (which I knew was coming because the company was run worse than the Obama administration) I was jubilant.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:41:37pm |
re: #307 victor_yugo
It’s a conjunctive pronoun, direct object of the verb “ask”.
Well down! We call them relative pronouns but they do connect a dependent clause to the main clause.
(I imagine many of you Lizards are zoning out as I do when I read one of Charles’s tech updates!)
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callahan23 Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:41:51pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:41:55pm |
There goes the oven buzzer. Potatoes are done and I gotta’ finish the salad while the grill heats up. Nummy. bbl
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:07pm |
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ladycatnip Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:16pm |
OT but oh, so noteworthy:
The Great One was flummoxed by a reporter at the G20. It’s hysterical.
Barack Obama, the World’s Greatest Orator (™all news organisations), didn’t exactly cover himself in glory when the BBC’s political editor Nick Robinson asked him a question about who was to blame for the financial crisis. Normally word perfect, Obama ummed, ahed and waffled for the best part of two and a half minutes. Here, John Crace decodes what he was really thinking …Nick Robinson: “A question for you both, if I may. The prime minister has repeatedly blamed the United States of America for causing this crisis. France and Germany both blame Britain and America for causing this crisis. Who is right? And isn’t the debate about that at the heart of the debate about what to do now?” Brown immediately swivels to leave Obama in pole position. There is a four-second delay before Obama starts speaking [THANKS FOR NOTHING, GORDY BABY. REMIND ME TO HANG YOU OUT TO DRY ONE DAY.] Barack Obama: “I, I, would say that, er … pause [I HAVEN’T A CLUE] … if you look at … pause [WHO IS THIS NICK ROBINSON JERK?] … the, the sources of this crisis … pause [JUST KEEP GOING, BUDDY] …
I love British humor - read the rest here.
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yochanan Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:20pm |
for some reason I can get the thingie to accept links from me i keep getting the what catigory thing and not get the link sent in
could some one post this link for me
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:22pm |
re: #316 goddessoftheclassroom
Yep. You are skating on very thin ice!
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:31pm |
Is there a diagram of the first sentence of the Declaration of Independence somewhere?
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
| 324 |
rawmuse Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:42:49pm |
I still get the warmies over English teachers (blushes)…
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solomonpanting Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:43:19pm |
re: #273 pingjockey
OT again, the head of the NY Slimes compares saving the slimes to the genocide in Darfur.
Darfur genocide⇒few left remaining;
Dwindling Times employees⇒few remaining are left
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:43:21pm |
re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom
Correct, but the second “swimming” is a participle (what the woman is doing). The first “swimming” is actually more like a gerund because it’s what the pool is for.
Zackly. In fact, I would say that the first “swimming” is straightforwardly a gerund, and therefore a noun — but here it’s sneakily functioning as an adjective, as all English nouns are able to do without changing their form.
(That I know this is entirely thanks to studying foreign languages — always went right over my head in English class!)
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:43:26pm |
re: #315 rawmuse
I know the feeling. The only corporate job I ever had, I hated it, everything but the steady $. When we got laid off (which I knew was coming because the company was run worse than the Obama administration) I was jubilant.
well, he was getting ready to retire after 32 yrs anyway—got a nice severance pkg and we are sitting pretty!
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AmeriDan Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:43:50pm |
re: #310 HoosierHoops
* curled up in the corner sucking thumb*
Whom is curled up in the corner sucking whos thumb?
/or maybe it’s the other way around. Grammer check, please.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:44:13pm |
re: #322 pingjockey
Yep. You are skating on very thin ice!
I just love words and language, but I know very few share my passion!
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HoosierHoops Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:44:36pm |
re: #328 AmeriDan
Whom is curled up in the corner sucking whos thumb?
/or maybe it’s the other way around. Grammer check, please.
Me..
/
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ConservatismNow! Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:44:42pm |
“Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
Has someone already quoted old Winston yet?
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debutaunt Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:44:49pm |
re: #322 pingjockey
Yep. You are skating on very thin ice!
Drove Mandy away with some lame excuse about making dinner.
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Euler Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:44:58pm |
re: #278 MandyManners
For homework, please identify the phrase for which each onions is the object:
“He breathed baffingly on him, for no banquet would serve, because of the known redolence of onions, onions, onions.”
—Enderby by Anthony Burgess
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:45:00pm |
re: #311 goddessoftheclassroom
Goddess, how is your Ayn Rand project going?
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DEZes Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:45:09pm |
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:45:47pm |
re: #330 goddessoftheclassroom
I love to read, but my writing skills have atrophied over time due to writing in militaryese or technicalese. Not proper grammar!
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:45:50pm |
re: #316 goddessoftheclassroom
Well down! We call them relative pronouns but they do connect a dependent clause to the main clause.
(I imagine many of you Lizards are zoning out as I do when I read one of Charles’s tech updates!)
Totally not zoning here! As any well-designed language, spoken, written, artificial, or otherwise, English has a syntax which, when followed, promotes clarity of expression and understanding.
My third week in college, I had a professor get on me for rigorous adherence to grammar in my reports. If I’d known then what I know now, I would have told him to get stuffed.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:47:00pm |
re: #333 debutaunt
I don’t know, she said potatos, salad and mentioned a grill. Let’s go to Mandys. Surprise her!
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Ateam Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:47:43pm |
re: #304 jcm
re: Over Night Thread #1380 by jcm:
Good point.
Winston Churchill in The River War over 100 years ago.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.
Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
ding, ping & astonishing knowledge. We need this kind of Winston Churchill now!
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:08pm |
re: #335 BatGuano
Goddess, how is your Ayn Rand project going?
She’s got one too?
I’m blogging as I read Atlas Shrugged for the first time. Click my nic to read my analysis of a Classic.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:15pm |
re: #332 ConservatismNow!
That was Sam Goldwyn, I believe…
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:38pm |
re: #323 victor_yugo
Is there a diagram of the first sentence of the Declaration of Independence somewhere?
re: #323 victor_yugo
Is there a diagram of the first sentence of the Declaration of Independence somewhere?
Punctuation rules hadn’t been formalized in 1776. As a matter of fact, different copyists put commas in differently. Here is how it would correctly punctuated today:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
From “when” to “them” is all one long adverb clause; the main clause begins with “a decent.”
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:38pm |
re: #337 pingjockey
I love to read, but my writing skills have atrophied over time due to writing in militaryese or technicalese. Not proper grammar!
I can construct a sentence for a some documents that consists entire of acronyms.
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:45pm |
re: #324 rawmuse
I still get the warmies over English teachers (blushes)…
My favorite English teacher was a no-nonsense, prim and proper women who didn’t take any lip from anyone, including the school headmaster. Learned a hell of a lot from her.
| 348 |
VioletTiger Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:47pm |
James Randi would be a great granddad. He’s got a great sense of humor.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:48:59pm |
re: #342 mikeymom
Hehehe! Wouldn’t she just shit. An army of lizards show up for dinner.
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debutaunt Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:49:46pm |
re: #342 mikeymom
I’ll bring the basil’s!
Let’s annoy the kid and see if he has learned some neat curses.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:50:20pm |
re: #307 victor_yugo
“The answer depends on whom you ask.”
But why is “whom” the preferred form?It’s a conjunctive pronoun, direct object of the verb “ask”.
Yep. But a lot of people get distracted by that preposition “on.”
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:50:51pm |
re: #349 pingjockey
Hehehe! Wouldn’t she just shit. An army of lizards show up for dinner.
i would definitly wear a helmet and padding to defend against the clue by 4—and earplugs-
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:51:43pm |
re: #343 CyanSnowHawk
Goddess has introduced Ayn Rand to her students, God bless her.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:51:47pm |
re: #350 pingjockey
Me too. Isn’t that mad!
What’s worse are Specification Documents, that only reference other Spec Documents.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:52:10pm |
re: #349 pingjockey
Hehehe! Wouldn’t she just shit. An army of lizards show up for dinner.
But we’ll also help with the cooking and cleaning. And keeping The Kid occupied and out of trouble.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:52:14pm |
re: #332 ConservatismNow!
“Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
Has someone already quoted old Winston yet?
It’s a joke, but one CAN end a sentence with a prepositions AS LONG AS its object is somewhere in the sentence. For example:
Ending a sentence with a preposition is something I will not put up with.
is perfectly correct because the relative pronoun “that” is implied (before the adjective clause beginning with “I”) and THAT is the object of the preposition.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:53:13pm |
re: #355 jcm
Shit yes. We had Boeing docs that related back to other docs ad infinititum.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:53:14pm |
re: #343 CyanSnowHawk
She’s got one too?
I’m blogging as I read Atlas Shrugged for the first time. Click my nic to read my analysis of a Classic.
I had some of my students read Anthem for an essay contest. It was a great experience.
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:53:18pm |
re: #353 mikeymom
i would definitly wear a helmet and padding to defend against the clue by 4—and earplugs-
all kidding aside, i bet she’s be a gracious hostess and be glad to see us—/ have i sucked up enough? more?
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ConservatismNow! Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:53:55pm |
re: #360 mikeymom
all kidding aside, i bet she’s be a gracious hostess and be glad to see us—/ have i sucked up enough? more?
I’m still skeert
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:54:38pm |
re: #356 victor_yugo
Hah, I could teach the kid some language, foreign, and Mandy wouldn’t have a clue. Unles she curses in Russian, Thai, Filipino.
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Soona' Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:54:38pm |
re: #341 Ateam
re: Over Night Thread #1380 by jcm:
Good point.Winston Churchill in The River War over 100 years ago.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.
Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
ding, ping & astonishing knowledge. We need this kind of Winston Churchill now!
If any politician would say or write anything close to this today, he’d be run out of the western hemisphere.
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Mr. In get Mr. Out Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:54:41pm |
re: #347 Soona’
My favorite English teacher was a no-nonsense, prim and proper women who didn’t take any lip from anyone, including the school headmaster. Learned a hell of a lot from her.
She’d like the compliment, but would need to fix the mistake.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:54:51pm |
re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom
Do you have an example to the contrary, in which a terminating preposition has no preceding object?
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mikeymom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:55:14pm |
re: #361 ConservatismNow!
I’m still skeert
maybe if we buy the large sized basil’s? and toys for the kid? / shaking here too-
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:55:26pm |
re: #338 victor_yugo
Totally not zoning here! As any well-designed language, spoken, written, artificial, or otherwise, English has a syntax which, when followed, promotes clarity of expression and understanding.
My third week in college, I had a professor get on me for rigorous adherence to grammar in my reports. If I’d known then what I know now, I would have told him to get stuffed.
The very first day of school I teach the concept of syntax. I DRILL that into their heads! I love the logic of grammar.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:55:35pm |
re: #362 pingjockey
Hah, I could teach the kid some language, foreign, and Mandy wouldn’t have a clue. Unles she curses in Russian, Thai, Filipino.
And I’ll teach him to pray in Spanish, Russian and Greek.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:56:06pm |
re: #367 goddessoftheclassroom
Syntax is what you pay on smokes and alcohol.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:56:55pm |
re: #368 victor_yugo
He’ll be sharp as a tack. Or sharper. Mandys awful quick.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:56:59pm |
re: #369 pingjockey
Syntax is what you pay on smokes and alcohol.
And when they screw up that calculation, it’s a sin-tax error.
/rim-shot
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 3:57:50pm |
re: #365 victor_yugo
Do you have an example to the contrary, in which a terminating preposition has no preceding object?
No because in those cases the word is simply an adverb:
I ran down the stairs. Preposition followed by the object “stairs”
The clock ran down. Adverb modifying the verb “ran.”
It DRIVES ME BATTY (and yes, there is a very long list of things that drive me batty) to hear, “Where is it at?”
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:01:53pm |
re: #358 pingjockey
Shit yes. We had Boeing docs that related back to other docs ad infinititum.
What’s annoying about ours is they only document end result. No procedures to get there, the what, not how.
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Mr Secul Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:02:11pm |
re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom
It DRIVES ME BATTY (and yes, there is a very long list of things that drive me batty) to hear, “Where is it at?”
In Bristol (UK) they say, “where’s it to?”.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:03:05pm |
re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom
It DRIVES ME BATTY (and yes, there is a very long list of things that drive me batty) to hear, “Where is it at?”
Or, “He’s at the library.”
No, he went TO the library, and now he’s IN the library.
You might find this interesting:
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:06:38pm |
re: #377 pingjockey
That’s just nuts.
Yep, job security I guess. Hey, I’m the only one that knows how to do this…..
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BatGuano Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:07:42pm |
re: #343 CyanSnowHawk
She’s got one too?
I’m blogging as I read Atlas Shrugged for the first time. Click my nic to read my analysis of a Classic.
I clicked your nic and Bookmarked it .
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Ateam Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:08:53pm |
re: #363 Soona’
Agreed. Today it’s all Opera show. Nothing real, like sup-prime or some Republicans hanging on in defense of CEO PIGS.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:09:19pm |
re: #376 victor_yugo
Or, “He’s at the library.”
No, he went TO the library, and now he’s IN the library.
You might find this interesting:
Funny enough, I can justify “at the library” because it modifies the implied complement is “present.”
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:13:29pm |
re: #376 victor_yugo
Or, “He’s at the library.”
No, he went TO the library, and now he’s IN the library.
You might find this interesting:
In Russian the paranoia is built into the language.
He left to go to the library.
The implication being, I have no knowledge of where he is, only what he intended to, or told us when he left here.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:13:30pm |
re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom
For example:
Ending a sentence with a preposition is something I will not put up with.
is perfectly correct because the relative pronoun “that” is implied (before the adjective clause beginning with “I”) and THAT is the object of the preposition.
Hmmm… my answer here would’ve been that the example is correct because neither “up” nor “with” is (in this context) a preposition at all — they’re both inseparable* elements of the three-word compound verb “put up with.”
Although maybe separability is not a good test — because one can say either “turn on the light” or “turn the light on,” but in either case, “on” is an element of the compound verb.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:14:02pm |
re: #381 goddessoftheclassroom
Funny enough, I can justify “at the library” because it modifies the implied complement is “present.”
But doesn’t “at” imply some kind of motion towards? Maybe he’s throwing something at the library, but he would still be either outside (near) or inside (in) the library.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:14:31pm |
re: #384 Throbert McGee
Hmmm… my answer here would’ve been that the example is correct because neither “up” nor “with” is (in this context) a preposition at all — they’re both inseparable* elements of the three-word compound verb “put up with.”
Although maybe separability is not a good test — because one can say either “turn on the light” or “turn the light on,” but in either case, “on” is an element of the compound verb.
I’d argue that on is an adverb in both cases.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:16:57pm |
re: #385 victor_yugo
But doesn’t “at” imply some kind of motion towards? Maybe he’s throwing something at the library, but he would still be either outside (near) or inside (in) the library.
Ah, now we’re approaching the “existence” verb “to be.” If I say I am [present] at the library, I am stating that I am existing at the library.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:18:44pm |
re: #384 Throbert McGee
Although maybe separability is not a good test — because one can say either “turn on the light” or “turn the light on,” but in either case, “on” is an element of the compound verb.
Turn the light off.
Turn your wife on.
Ah, the vagaries of English.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:22:25pm |
Randi better not dis our LGF Zionist hair rays if he knows what’s good for him.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:22:48pm |
Totally, OT, but I had to share a story. I am NOT making this up.
Yesterday my boys were playing a game, Spy Alley. It’s one of those games where you earn money and buy things you need to win the game. About halfway through (or what would have been halfway through), they voted themselves a bailout, and took all the money they wanted out of the “bank.”
I think they get how bailouts are supposed to work, I really do.
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:23:26pm |
re: #387 goddessoftheclassroom
Ah, now we’re approaching the “existence” verb “to be.” If I say I am [present] at the library, I am stating that I am existing at the library.
English is the only Indo-European language, AFAIK, which allows that construct. The convoluted grammars of Euskara and Suomi may have some specific case denoting both “towards” and “inside.”
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:27:59pm |
re: #391 victor_yugo
English is the only Indo-European language, AFAIK, which allows that construct. The convoluted grammars of Euskara and Suomi may have some specific case denoting both “towards” and “inside.”
I bow to your expertise!
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:30:42pm |
re: #392 goddessoftheclassroom
I bow to your expertise!
I should also have said:
Any Lizards reading this, who know otherwise, are free to correct me.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:32:07pm |
re: #383 jcm
In Russian the paranoia is built into the language.
He left to go to the library.
The implication being, I have no knowledge of where he is, only what he intended to, or told us when he left here.
What’s wrong with simply On poshel v biblioteku (“He went to the library”)?
I mean, you could throw in some sort of clause with chtoby (“in order to…”), but it’s not totally necessary.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:35:15pm |
I love hanging out with the smart kids!
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:37:46pm |
Studying the relationships of the Indo-European languages has been a hobby for the last 20 years.
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jcm Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:38:02pm |
re: #394 Throbert McGee
What’s wrong with simply On poshel v biblioteku (“He went to the library”)?
I mean, you could throw in some sort of clause with chtoby (“in order to…”), but it’s not totally necessary.
It’s been a while but Russian has the whole “going” verb thing. “Went” is more a approximate translation, and leaves out the nuance of the going verbs.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Apr 3, 2009 4:55:18pm |
re: #385 victor_yugo
But doesn’t “at” imply some kind of motion towards?
Not necessarily.
“At” can imply either motion (“He lunged at me”) or stationary location (“He’s at work.”).
Compare with
“He dropped the book on the table.” (motion)
and
“The corpse is lying on the floor.”* (location)
In the former case one can also say “onto,” but “on” is just as correct.
*This was an actual example sentence from my first-year Russian textbook! (The main point of the example was to illustrate that the word for “floor” has a somewhat irregular form when you’re talking about something being in a stationary position ON the floor — whereas it has a totally regular form if something falls TO the floor, or is picked up FROM the floor. Of course, this grammatical point could’ve been illustrated just as well — though perhaps not as memorably — with a nice word like “candy” or “flower,” instead of “corpse.” But “corpse” is somehow more Russian…)
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victor_yugo Fri, Apr 3, 2009 5:04:27pm |
“The corpse is lying upon the floor.”
In both cases, “on” has become a contraction of a more concise term. Both degraded into the same term, hence the confusion.
Disclaimer: AFAIK.
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Daryl Herbert Fri, Apr 3, 2009 8:25:49pm |
Charles:
Whenever you embed a YouTube video, it has no option for displaying the video in full screen.
When I look at YouTube videos on other blogs, they usually have the option for displaying the video in full screen.
Maybe you could look into that and enable it for us. I, for one, prefer to watch videos in full screen.
Thanks
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Dar ul Harb Fri, Apr 3, 2009 8:41:23pm |
re: #397 jcm
It’s been a while but Russian has the whole “going” verb thing. “Went” is more a approximate translation, and leaves out the nuance of the going verbs.
Of course, down south, we call that “fixin’ to”.
As in, I’m fixin’ to go to bed.
(I believe I actually mean “fixin’ to go to sleep,” because I’m already in bed. Or on.)
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