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Here’s an open thread — I’m noticing connectivity issues with Amazon and YouTube today. I wonder if something’s up, DDoS-wise?
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Pianobuff Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:56:33pm |
Someone made a comment yesterday about lobsters spreading out and grazing on the wide open prairie. I'm still chuckling over that.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:57:08pm |
106˚ north of Los Angeles.
Global Warmening sucks!
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:58:05pm |
Charles, hope these tech connectivity problems are not another NorthKorean/Chinese Army computer attack!
Thank you for staying eternally vigilant against these bad actors of all kinds.
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dmandman Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:58:59pm |
Are there going to be any cruises next year with some conservative speakers. The other half wants to go on a "different" vacation and I might have might be able to schedule something if I have enough advance notice.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:00:06pm |
Remember forty years ago today, the Kennedys attended Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral--Teddy in his neck brace doesn't look too broken up about it in the picture accompanying articles about it. Joan Kennedy looked stoic.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:01:03pm |
re: #5 dmandman
Are there going to be any cruises next year with some conservative speakers. The other half wants to go on a "different" vacation and I might have might be able to schedule something if I have enough advance notice.
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The Weekly Standard dot com usually advertises cruises with William Kristol and other prominent conservatives aboard. Check their web site.
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ArmyWife Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:01:48pm |
re: #6 alegrias
Wonder how this would have been handled if it happened today? Would the press "cover" for the Kennedy's? Would people be outraged he attended the funeral?
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poteen Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:02:58pm |
re: #2 Pianobuff
Someone made a comment yesterday about lobsters spreading out and grazing on the wide open prairie. I'm still chuckling over that.
Could have been a Zappa song. :)
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snowcrash Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:03:17pm |
re: #6 alegrias
If he looked sad it was because he saw his chances for the presidency die with Mary Jo.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:03:34pm |
Remember private soldier Bergdahl who's probably regretting walking off his base in eastern Afghanistan without his body armor. Now he's on video saying he's "scared".
Remember the Taliban/Al Qaeda is not our friend.
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Pianobuff Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:04:26pm |
re: #7 alegrias
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The Weekly Standard dot com usually advertises cruises with William Kristol and other prominent conservatives aboard. Check their web site.
Heh....picturing departure day festivities with Rush, Coulter, Kristol, Barnes, et al. on the top deck in a conga line at the Bon Voyage party. Bizarre.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:05:17pm |
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poteen Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:06:17pm |
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albusteve Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:07:04pm |
re: #10 snowcrash
If he looked sad it was because he saw his chances for the presidency die with Mary Jo.
these days he would have been elected...somehow the accident would have been M Jo's fault...via the MSM
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:07:22pm |
re: #12 Pianobuff
Heh....picturing departure day festivities with Rush, Coulter, Kristol, Barnes, et al. on the top deck in a conga line at the Bon Voyage party. Bizarre.
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Silly rabbit, haven't you heard of conservative Republican CUBANS like Ricky Ricardo, who was a professional conga player & partier and staunch anti-communist? Floridian Cubans who are Republicans have this dance down!
Cubans (and their Yoruba african drummer heritage) INVENTED the Conga~!
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poteen Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:07:44pm |
Lobsters grazing on fields of "mennil toss" in Montana//
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:07:54pm |
re: #11 alegrias
Remember private soldier Bergdahl who's probably regretting walking off his base in eastern Afghanistan without his body armor. Now he's on video saying he's "scared".
Remember the Taliban/Al Qaeda is not our friend.
I can guarantee that allied intelligence and SF are turning over every rock and calling in every marker in an effort to find him. It's a big place though. His captors are dead meat in any case.
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Render Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:08:43pm |
Iraqi Teens Get Up-Close Look at U.S. in Effort to Improve Relations
This is a good start. But 36 kids isn't even a molecule of a single drop compared to the ocean of whats needed.
"This organization is a good organization, since it will lead us to change and to change old culture and make ourselves understand each other more, between the American student and the Iraqi student and our cultures," said another student, an 18-year-old aspiring statesman from Erbil, Iraq."
...to change old culture...
INDEED,
R
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wahabicorridor Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:09:03pm |
re: #7 alegrias
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The Weekly Standard dot com usually advertises cruises with William Kristol and other prominent conservatives aboard. Check their web site.
Ok, another half hour in the oven for the meatloaf so I can chill.
alegrias, if I'm not mistaken, that's how Kristol met Palin.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:09:39pm |
re: #19 Render
Iraqi Teens Get Up-Close Look at U.S. in Effort to Improve Relations
This is a good start. But 36 kids isn't even a molecule of a single drop compared to the ocean of whats needed.
"This organization is a good organization, since it will lead us to change and to change old culture and make ourselves understand each other more, between the American student and the Iraqi student and our cultures," said another student, an 18-year-old aspiring statesman from Erbil, Iraq."
...to change old culture...
INDEED,
R
Quite concur.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:09:43pm |
re: #18 Shiplord Kirel
I can guarantee that allied intelligence and SF are turning over every rock and calling in every marker in an effort to find him. It's a big place though. His captors are dead meat in any case.
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It's painful to consider but possible this soldier walked off his own base and away from his own team the way that American soldier walked off to North Korea many years ago.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:10:31pm |
re: #22 alegrias
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It's painful to consider but possible this soldier walked off his own base and away from his own team the way that American soldier walked off to North Korea many years ago.
In what way was that?
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:12:33pm |
re: #20 wahabicorridor
Ok, another half hour in the oven for the meatloaf so I can chill.
alegrias, if I'm not mistaken, that's how Kristol met Palin.
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You may be right! I too vaguely recall reading Governor Palin sometimes welcomed cruise ships' customers visiting Alaska, promoting her state's tourism industry.
See, a smart wise Alaskan woman governor let the tourists come to HER state, instead of cruising for "soulmates" off shore in Argentina!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:12:39pm |
Of course, as soon as I mention connectivity problems with YouTube and Amazon, they both clear right up.
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TedStriker Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:12:50pm |
re: #6 alegrias
Remember forty years ago today, the Kennedys attended Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral--Teddy in his neck brace doesn't look too broken up about it in the picture accompanying articles about it. Joan Kennedy looked stoic.
Because she knew her husband was a lying, womanizing fuckup...I just don't understand why she put up with his ass for another nine years though.
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ArmyWife Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:12:50pm |
re: #22 alegrias
On July 2, the U.S. military said an American soldier had disappeared after walking off his base in eastern Afghanistan with three Afghan counterparts and was believed to have been taken prisoner.
I don't want to speculate until we know more. There are so many possibilities - from leaving on his own as you pointed out, to having forged a relationship with his counterparts and letting his guard down, to being forcibly removed by the counter parts. We just don't know - and may not ever really know.
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IslandLibertarian Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:14:58pm |
3-4 ft. +
waist to shoulder high with occasional 5 ft.
and good conditions.
Morning dawn patrol:Combo residual trade swell and new SSW swell has picked up surf along southern shores today. Most spots have waves in the waist to shoulder high range with some infrequent near head high sets. Strong trade winds continue to blow today to provide gusty offshore conditions for town and rough/choppy side shore bump for south-east exposures.
WEATHER:
Partly sunny. Numerous showers in the morning...then scattered showers in the afternoon. Highs 74 to 86. East winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.
/who is this Glouble Warhming fellow?
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:15:34pm |
re: #23 Dark_Falcon
In what way was that?
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I believe that particular disgruntled American soldier reportedly got drunk in South Korea on his post, and wandered off into North Korea, where he was used in anti-American communist propaganda for many years, and was only released to Japan a couple years ago.
Forget the guy's name, sorry.
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pingjockey Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:15:39pm |
Ouch! Kid for the Mariners just got smacked in the ribs by a Kerry Woods fastball.
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snowcrash Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:15:52pm |
re: #26 talon_262
I think she was in an alcoholic stupor. Really.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:16:03pm |
re: #22 alegrias
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It's painful to consider but possible this soldier walked off his own base and away from his own team the way that American soldier walked off to North Korea many years ago.
Doubt it. I read his book. He was drunk out of his mind and was afraid of getting shipped off to - where? - 'Nam I think. He thought the Norks would re-patriate him.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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MJ Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:16:05pm |
Is Glenn Beck trading on antisemitic imagery?
Glenn Beck had this segment the other day:
Patrick Bryne from Overstock.com has repeating been accused of antisemitism .
[Link: www.thestalwart.com...]
Ron Paul is an antisemite.
The spider web in Beck's posting is similar to this:
Image: NaziPropaganda.jpg
The talk of secret cabals and New York oligarchy is right out of the Protocols.
He doesn't have to say Jews...it's understood.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:16:12pm |
re: #25 Charles
Of course, as soon as I mention connectivity problems with YouTube and Amazon, they both clear right up.
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The Force is with you! Congratulations.
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Bobblehead Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:16:22pm |
re: #17 poteen
Lobsters grazing on fields of "mennil toss" in Montana//
Oh, give me a home where the buffalo lobsters roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day.....
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LionofDixon Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:18:11pm |
re: #26 talon_262
Funny how forty years later there are still kooks and whack-jobs who still believe that (a) Moon landing was fake and (b) Ted Kennedy is fit to be a U.S. Senator.....
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:19:46pm |
re: #33 wahabicorridor
Doubt it. I read his book. He was drunk out of his mind and was afraid of getting shipped off to - where? - 'Nam I think. He thought the Norks would re-patriate him.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Thanks for checking. As others have said, US troops aren't supposed to have booze in Afghanistan, so presumably this soldier was thinking straight when he walked off without his body armor or Western buddies into the Afghan night.
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:19:56pm |
re: #19 Render
Iraqi Teens Get Up-Close Look at U.S. in Effort to Improve Relations
This is a good start. But 36 kids isn't even a molecule of a single drop compared to the ocean of whats needed.
"This organization is a good organization, since it will lead us to change and to change old culture and make ourselves understand each other more, between the American student and the Iraqi student and our cultures," said another student, an 18-year-old aspiring statesman from Erbil, Iraq."
...to change old culture...
INDEED,
R
Too bad we can't leave all those pro-Saddam Iraqi Jordyptians and bring over as many exchange students.
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pingjockey Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:20:02pm |
re: #37 LionofDixon
Makes you wonder about the smarts of some of our fellow citizens doesn't it.
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:20:40pm |
re: #25 Charles
Of course, as soon as I mention connectivity problems with YouTube and Amazon, they both clear right up.
It's like a fly that takes off as soon as you bring out the fly-swatter.
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:21:32pm |
re: #37 LionofDixon
Funny how forty years later there are still kooks and whack-jobs who still believe that (a) Moon landing was fake and (b) Ted Kennedy is fit to be a U.S. Senator.....
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NOT FUNNY:
Right now, they're trying to push mudering bastid TEDDY Kennedy's idea of a "health plan" on us and our children.
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Bobblehead Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:21:44pm |
re: #40 pingjockey
Makes you wonder about the smarts of some of our fellow citizens doesn't it.
They bought Obama's line of bull didn't they?
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Randall Gross Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:22:14pm |
Youtube and Amazon both working fine from KC, your site is extremely slow, that seems to be coming and going the past two days.
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:23:49pm |
re: #26 talon_262
Because she knew her husband was a lying, womanizing fuckup...I just don't understand why she put up with his ass for another nine years though.
Why hasn't Jenny booted Marc Sanford?
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Randall Gross Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:24:09pm |
SANs is green, but there's an update out for Chrome
[Link: isc.sans.org...]
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kansas Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:24:28pm |
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wahabicorridor Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:24:32pm |
Ok, there are a bunch of nested links in here that I haven't read yet but Tim Blair is reporting on another nuisance law suit against Sarah Palin.
The Anchorage Daily News liked the story so much they posted it not once, not twice, but three times - including an entry on the Alaska Politics Blog by Bill White.
In all of those stories, the version of events offered by the plaintiff in the suit, Gregory Charles Royal, was offered uncritically and without any background on Royal. He’s only identified as “a Washington, D.C., musician”. Nowhere do [Associated Press reporter] Rachel D’Oro or Bill White answer some rather critical questions that their readers might have, such as “Who is this Royal guy?” and “What are his motivations?”
So Lindell does the legwork himself, turning up a number of interesting points, including this:
Royal first appeared in the public eye in relation to Palin through the graces of Toronto-based blogger Charley James.
Charley James! The fake-named bogus blogger whose Palin-hating fantasies ended up on front pages in Australia! Nice to see that his mainstream influence hasn’t diminished.
Off to read the links.........
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:24:47pm |
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alegrias Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:24:49pm |
In memory of Mary Jo Kopechne who was buried 40 years ago, I'm going swimming right now.
And a big F.U. to Ted Kennedy's "health plan" for America.
I can outswim you, Teddy, you murderin' bastid. Keep your "health plan" off my American body.
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LionOfDixon Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:25:14pm |
re: #44 Bobblehead
Would you expect anything less from a coke-head President and a alcoholic Senator?
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pingjockey Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:25:41pm |
re: #44 Bobblehead
Forgot the tag didn't I! Heh. If it wasn't so damn sad. It would be tolerable if I thought the left meant well. They do not mean well. They want to control every facet of your life because 'they' the elite are better and smarter and richer than you. Granted Teddy has never had a real job, but he knows best...BULLSHIT. Just like the one, none of these assholes has ever had to make a payroll, or a deadline or probably ever had a blister from honest work.
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dmandman Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:26:21pm |
re: #48 kansas
It takes a long time and negotiation to line up a competent attorney who is willing to take on a sitting govenour in his own state. Some law firms would look at as a suicide job.
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MandyManners Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:26:31pm |
I'm baking a ham and will have that along with potato salad and sauteed tomatoes with basil for dinner. Gotta' go dice my eggs.
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wahabicorridor Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:28:35pm |
re: #49 wahabicorridor
Oh, christ - look what this guy was saying about Palin
Royal admits he was hitting on her and, he claims, she knew it. Picking up women is a regular activity for most musicians, especially when on the road.
[...]
Royal felt he was making progress with Sarah Heath and when a couple of his musician friends approached, he waved them off. “But she saw them and got weird.”
“Sarah asked me if they were with me. I asked her what was up because she was obviously a little weird after seeing them,” states Royal, who has Native American blood in his ancestry is a fairly light skinned while his buddies were much darker.
“I don’t mean any harm,” Royal says Sarah told him, which is exactly what she meant but he recalls her saying that she doesn’t do black guys.
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Crimsonfisted Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:28:43pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
Why hasn't Jenny booted Marc Sanford?
Perhaps the kids? I know I would take A LOT, if only for them. I can find happiness anywhere. Maybe she can too.
But I am not married to a scumbag either.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:30:11pm |
This is interesting. The statistical guru Nate Silver has issued a Challenge to Climate Change Skeptics. A monetary challenge. So far, no takers.
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avanti Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:36:46pm |
re: #3 Racer X
106˚ north of Los Angeles.
Global Warmening sucks!
From a link down thread. Global warming skeptic bloggers can put their money where their mouth is and potentially make some serious money.
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avanti Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:37:54pm |
re: #58 ShanghaiEd
This is interesting. The statistical guru Nate Silver has issued a Challenge to Climate Change Skeptics. A monetary challenge. So far, no takers.
odd timing on our two posts. :)
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LionOfDixon Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:38:48pm |
How Ironic: The way Obama reads everything off the teleprompter, you'd think he was the plagiarist, and the way Biden is such a, fast-talking, gaffe-ridden, motormouth, he would be the coke-head.
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kansas Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:39:07pm |
re: #3 Racer X
106˚ north of Los Angeles.
Global Warmening sucks!
Record low here in KC last night. 58. Record high was in 1894.
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kynna Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:39:24pm |
re: #58 ShanghaiEd
This is interesting. The statistical guru Nate Silver has issued a Challenge to Climate Change Skeptics. A monetary challenge. So far, no takers.
The comments following that post are excellent. But I'll bet ol' Nate has self-esteem high enough to handle it. Ha.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:40:39pm |
re: #60 avanti
odd timing on our two posts. :)
Hey, Avanti! Odd timing, indeed. Everybody knows I'm one of your socks... :)
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lawhawk Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:41:04pm |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Aren't we all glad that when President Obama can't get out and apologize for something, he can send Hillary along to do it for him? She is in India busy apologizing for our carbon emissions, even though it was our industrial base and technological might that helped the US defeat Nazism and Communism and end the cold war. It also gave the US the high standard of living that many of us take for granted, and which most of the rest of the world wishes they had.
Instead, Clinton and Obama are apologizing for this, all while hoping that the Chinese and Indians both cut their carbon emissions, even though both have lower per capita rates than the US. It is their overall emissions that are higher as a result of the size of their population, and their emissions continue growing as their standard of living increases.
This is all about controlling the standard of living of people, not anything remotely related to sound science.
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NY Nana Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:45:44pm |
re: #26 talon_262
Speaking of Teddy Boy, Jeff Jacoby, the only writer for the Boston Globe, had quite a smack down of Ted today:
Chappaquiddick's unanswered questions
TWENTY-FIVE YEARS AGO TOMORROW, on July 22, 1969, Mary Jo Kopechne was buried at St. Vincent's Cemetery in Plymouth, Penn. She had died three days earlier, pinned underwater when Sen. Kennedy's car swerved off Dike Bridge on Chappaquiddick Island.
Within hours of Kopechne's death, a Kennedy aide named Dun Gifford flew a chartered plane into Edgartown (the Martha's Vineyard town of which Chappaquiddick is a part), with orders to get the body off the island. Before Massachusetts officials had even decided whether to perform an autopsy to settle the cause of death, Kopechne's remains were in Pennsylvania -- beyond the state's jurisdiction.
-- Did Kennedy order Gifford to remove the body?
That's one question the senator has never answered.
In fact, quite a few questions have never been answered.
At least, not by Kennedy.
At least, not truthfully.
Kennedy and Kopechne were part of a group of 12 that had come to Chappaquiddick for the Edgartown Regatta and a private barbecue afterward. Half the guests were married men, half were single women in their 20s. Kennedy and Kopechne left the party at some point that evening and ended up driving off the bridge.
Though Kennedy managed to extricate himself from the car and get back to his motel that night, Kopechne remained in the car until her body was recovered by a Fire Department diver at 8:45 the next morning. To the diver, Capt. John Farrar, it was clear that she had neither drowned nor died quickly. Kopechne survived for some time by breathing a pocket of trapped air, finally suffocating to death when the oxygen ran out. When Kennedy reported the accident to the Edgartown police, it was 9:45 a.m. -- some nine or 10 hours after he left Kopechne in his car.Questions:
-- Why did Kennedy and Kopechne leave the barbecue?
Kennedy said they wanted to return to their respective motels and left to catch the ferry (which only operated until midnight) back to Edgartown center. But Kennedy's chauffeur, who was on hand, didn't drive them; Kopechne didn't take her purse or her room key; and they didn't go to the ferry. Kennedy headed in the opposite direction -- to Dike Bridge and the secluded beach beyond.-- What time did they leave?Kennedy claimed he left at 11:15 p.m., and the accident happened a few minutes later. Yet Deputy Sheriff Huck Look reported seeing Kennedy's black Oldsmobile at 12:45 a.m., heading down Dike Road toward the bridge. After the accident, the senator said he hadn't been able to rescue Kopechne because of the "strong and murky current" in which he kept getting "swept away." In truth there was no current at 11:15. The water was absolutely slack, at low tide. At 12:45, however, the current was fast-moving and strong.
Please read it all!
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SixDegrees Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:49:35pm |
re: #8 ArmyWife
Wonder how this would have been handled if it happened today? Would the press "cover" for the Kennedy's? Would people be outraged he attended the funeral?
40 years ago, the Kennedy clan still lived in Camelot, in the eyes of the public.
Ted Kennedy is, and always has been, a murdering drunk. He deserves to be buried in a lagoon of swine shit, to save people the trouble of pissing on his grave.
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SixDegrees Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:54:12pm |
re: #68 SixDegrees
4025 years ago, the Kennedy clan still lived in Camelot, in the eyes of the public.Ted Kennedy is, and always has been, a murdering drunk. He deserves to be buried in a lagoon of swine shit, to save people the trouble of pissing on his grave.
My bad.
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avanti Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:54:20pm |
re: #63 kynna
The comments following that post are excellent. But I'll bet ol' Nate has self-esteem high enough to handle it. Ha.
Yep, if you live in the right city, you could win some money, but I won't chance it here in Md. It is a good point that if one bloggers wins, he have some serious bragging rights.
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suboptimal Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:55:09pm |
An open question on an open thread.
Looking at two "budget" guitar brands right now, Raven West and Agile. Specifically looking at the LP clones from each. Anyone have any experience with either of these two?
TIA
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suboptimal Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:56:39pm |
re: #68 SixDegrees
Ted Kennedy is, and always has been, a murdering drunk. He deserves to be buried in a lagoon of swine shit, to save people the trouble of pissing on his grave.
Do we have to wait for the funeral to do this?
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jvic Sun, Jul 19, 2009 1:59:41pm |
re: #64 ShanghaiEd
Hey, Avanti! Odd timing, indeed. Everybody knows I'm one of your socks... :)
Speaking of socks, Ed, I have bad news for you.
I passed the Turing test and am reevaluating our relationship. ;-)
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avanti Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:01:04pm |
re: #71 suboptimal
An open question on an open thread.
Looking at two "budget" guitar brands right now, Raven West and Agile. Specifically looking at the LP clones from each. Anyone have any experience with either of these two?
TIA
My son is a manager at guitar center, and his only advice is to spend as much as you can afford. He said the difference between say a $150 budget guitar and a $300 one is pretty massive. Of course, this comes from a kid with PRS guitars.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:15:20pm |
re: #73 jvic
Speaking of socks, Ed, I have bad news for you.
I passed the Turing test and am reevaluating our relationship. ;-)
LOL. Oh, crap. Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue... :)
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:34:50pm |
re: #58 ShanghaiEd
This is interesting. The statistical guru Nate Silver has issued a Challenge to Climate Change Skeptics. A monetary challenge. So far, no takers.
Worldwide, second warmest June on record:
Image: map-blended-mntp-200906-pg.gif
and a warm Jan-June period:
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Crimsonfisted Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:35:08pm |
re: #55 MandyManners
I'm baking a ham and will have that along with potato salad and sauteed tomatoes with basil for dinner. Gotta' go dice my eggs.
I am soooo hungry! I would add some mozzarella to the tomatoes! Sauteed Caprese Salad a la Mandy Manners. New dish.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:38:14pm |
re: #76 austin_blue
Worldwide, second warmest June on record:
[Link: www.ncdc.noaa.gov...]
and a warm Jan-June period:
[Link: www.ncdc.noaa.gov...]
Indeed.
Conclusion? Nate Silver shows that Hindrocket will lie even about the weather.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:51:54pm |
re: #78 iceweasel
Indeed.
Conclusion? Nate Silver shows that Hindrocket will lie even about the weather.
Not true.
Soros and Gore have little remote controls they carry with them at all times, which override the NOAA sensors. I have this on good authority.
/
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JeremyR Sun, Jul 19, 2009 2:58:50pm |
Charles, any thoughts regarding reports that some people, having purchased books on Kindle have suddenly found them deleted?
As I understand it, they did receive a refund, but still, its creepy.
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jvic Sun, Jul 19, 2009 3:07:29pm |
Climate change skeptic Steve McIntyre cautions:
...In my opinion, as I've observed many times, the pure time series properties of the various temperature series do not permit elaborate conclusions one way or the other on the future course of temperatures - either on the part of Rahmstorf and similar data torturers or on the part of people deriving a morale from relatively little temperature increase over the past decade.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jul 19, 2009 3:15:20pm |
re: #79 ShanghaiEd
Not true.
Soros and Gore have little remote controls they carry with them at all times, which override the NOAA sensors. I have this on good authority.
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They always liked you better. :(
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jvic Sun, Jul 19, 2009 3:23:47pm |
In practical terms, the worst outcome would be for the climate to whipsaw us: "trend" long enough for the warmers or coolers to claim "victory", and then decisively reverse.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 3:50:35pm |
re: #81 jvic
Climate change skeptic Steve McIntyre cautions:
jvic: Ummmm. Could you, or anybody, suggest a translation of McIntyre's comment? It's way over my head. I'm especially intrigued by people who "derive their morale" from temperature readings. :)
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Jul 19, 2009 3:53:01pm |
Same experience w/YouTube earlier today.
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jvic Sun, Jul 19, 2009 4:37:15pm |
Ed, I wouldn't presume to translate but will try an interpretation.
...the pure time series properties of the various temperature series do not permit elaborate conclusions one way or the other on the future course of temperatures - either on the part of Rahmstorf and similar data torturers or on the part of people deriving a morale from relatively little temperature increase over the past decade.
1. "pure time series properties of the various temperature series": I think he means taking the day-by-day or month-by-month temperature histories at face value. Ignore whether mistakes were made in obtaining those values from e.g. satellite telemetry or thermometers located near air conditioners or the like.
To oversimplify, suppose you were testing whether a coin is fair by repeatedly flipping it. The closer the coin is to being fair, the more times you'd have to flip it to draw a reasonably confident conclusion. McIntyre is saying that the coin has not been flipped temperature has not been measured enough times to support prediction of how future flips will behave future temperatures.
2. Apparently Rahmstorf is predicting a catastrophic warming-induced rise in sea levels. McIntyre says that R's prediction is illegitimate if based on no other evidence than the temperature record.
3. "...deriving a morale from relatively little temperature increase over the past decade..." Just because we haven't seen the big warming that some people predicted 10 years ago, we shouldn't rule out serious future (A)GW.
"deriving a morale" could be a typo for "deriving a moral" or it could be a deliberate play on words: some people watch the weather and cheer every time it matches their expectations for longer-term climate.
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I hope the above is plausible and helpful. Keep in mind I'm not knowledgeable, let alone expert. When I looked into this stuff a little bit, I was surprised how much more complex and subtle it was than my preconceptions.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jul 19, 2009 4:52:32pm |
re: #86 jvic
Ed, I wouldn't presume to translate but will try an interpretation.
1. "pure time series properties of the various temperature series": I think he means taking the day-by-day or month-by-month temperature histories at face value. Ignore whether mistakes were made in obtaining those values from e.g. satellite telemetry or thermometers located near air conditioners or the like.
To oversimplify, suppose you were testing whether a coin is fair by repeatedly flipping it. The closer the coin is to being fair, the more times you'd have to flip it to draw a reasonably confident conclusion. McIntyre is saying that the
coin has not been flippedtemperature has not been measured enough times to support prediction ofhow future flips will behavefuture temperatures.2. Apparently Rahmstorf is predicting a catastrophic warming-induced rise in sea levels. McIntyre says that R's prediction is illegitimate if based on no other evidence than the temperature record.
3. "...deriving a morale from relatively little temperature increase over the past decade..." Just because we haven't seen the big warming that some people predicted 10 years ago, we shouldn't rule out serious future (A)GW.
"deriving a morale" could be a typo for "deriving a moral" or it could be a deliberate play on words: some people watch the weather and cheer every time it matches their expectations for longer-term climate.
********************
I hope the above is plausible and helpful. Keep in mind I'm not knowledgeable, let alone expert. When I looked into this stuff a little bit, I was surprised how much more complex and subtle it was than my preconceptions.
jvic: Very helpful, yes. I get in over my head pretty quickly.
Case in point: I thought Rahmstorf was an Air Force base. :)
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